Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all AND Geek vs whatever
Christchurch New Zealand Walter Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
Ï/Ç "Rick [Kitty5]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ýãñáøå: On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 11:26, Dimitris Ioannou wrote:> > I hope that this poisoned letter of yours ...Well, you were the one who posted in HTML :)Yes, because , I'm at work now my friend (Windows based(, and couldn't resist answering the letter. Regards DimitrisWant to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.comDo You Yahoo!?ÁðïêôÞóôå ôçí äùñåÜí óáò @yahoo.gr äéåýèõíóç óôï Yahoo! Mail.
Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:06:35 -0600, Michael Viron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly: > >4. Pro Geek. Makes an actual living as technician in the field. Highly paid > >for his (rarely her) work, if ANY good at all, due to general great lack of > >competence in the technical area. Always extremely busy. Extremely poor > >communicators. Need to simply be given the job to do. Never ask them > >questions. > > Not necessarily true -- there are some people who are making a living as a > "technician" or more generally, in information technology, and are quite > capable of communicating their ideas effectively in a way that "non-geeks" > can understand. That's right. In fact, some of us have degrees to do just that. :-) Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake's financial situation
Linux by the whole was not started by companies, but grew faster because of them. This may slow progress, but won't stomp it out. Then again Time is the ultimate judge. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all AND Geek vs whatever
Oh my... I'm sorry you felt you might offend dear. You haven't done so to me anyway. After all, all feedback is welcome :) Please do continue to post. As for you problems, I honest have no idea but I have seen the root problem before... *wracks my brain for where I saw it!* Damn... If i remember I'll post the info/url. Femme David wrote: > > Well Miark, if it s that important, I'm in Bainbridge GA. > > I want to apologize to all offended. > > I didn't intend imply that people were too tired or occupied to reply to > questions. And I'm really not some kind of asshole. Although looking > back ( hindsight - always 20/20 ), my post does seem to indicate so. I > just didn't understand why chit-chat received so much more attention than > ( at least my ) tech-related questions. Now I have a better > understanding. > > With that said, on to current problems > > I recently, against my better judgement and on advice given from someone > on this list, performed an OS upgrade to fix a boot problem caused by > altering my partition table. The problem is now fixed. I can boot > without the boot disk now. BUT, this caused more problems: > > 1- I cannot "su". error reads: "su: cannot set groups: Operation not > permitted" > > 2- I cannot mount or umount as user. ( I could before ) > > 3- I cannot run a program as root. error reads: GET THIS "Incorrect > password! Please try again." > > 4- I cannot log in as root on CLI, only in GUI - this makes ABSOLUTLY NO > sense to me whatsoever > > I have no idea how to fix any of these. Any help would be most appreciated. > > David > Bainbridge, GA > > On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:36:04 -0700 > Miark Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 00:08:25 -0500, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke > > thusly: > > > > > Yes this is a community, and it does have a very _welcome_ feel to it. > > > But I have a point to make. > > > > > > My email a while ago received quite a number of replies. I have > > > posted actual problems to this list more than a couple of times and > > > the total number or responses from them all did not equal the ones > > > from this evening (read: some were not answered at all). > > > > The two phenomenon (receiving no problem responses and receiving > > many "I'm from" responses) are unrelated. When you don't get responses > > to questions, it's usually because people either don't see the question, > > or they don't know the answer. It's not because they typed 50 characters > > to identify their location then got too tired to type anything else. > > > > On the other hand, most people know where they live, so it's only > > natural that those responses outweigh anything else. Case in point: > > we've had several "lurkers" speak up to identify themselves. > > > > I've had several occasions where I posted problems and received no > > responses--it happens. But the cause is not other discussions. > > > > Now where are you from? Don't make me do an IP lookup--that would take > > away all the fun! > > > > Miark > > > > > > -- > > °°° > Mandrake Linux 8.1 Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk > KDE 2.2.1 Sylpheed 0.7.2 > > David L. Steiner > Registered Linux User #262493 > Homepagewww.davidlsteiner.com > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > °°° > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] network md8.1 w/ w2k for lan and internet
Either use iptables, or use the InteractiveBastille setup script. Either of which will do the trick for you. There's an internet connection sharing setup wizard in the mandrake control center as well, but I didn't have much luck with that particular thingy. HTH Ken --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ya'll will have to type real slow because I am from > deep in the piney woods of east texas and can't read > very fast. In fact so far back in the woods that > chickens wear overalls. > > I have a toshiba cable modem that uses usb (mandrake > set it up and it works. Yea!). I have a nic and > with a crossed cat5 to my w2k machine (no hub). > > I want for the w2k machine to be able to get to the > internet. > > With very little knowledge on the subject, what > should I do. > > Thanks > > Rick > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OK new topic/Idea. Wine from CodeWeavers Question
Someone on here wanted to use a program (HTML proggy???) Dreamweaver I think, but its a windows program. Check out Codeweavers website & look at their WINE Program. Its coming out of development & might help you. I don't know what Dreamweaver is, or how it works...but I hope this helps. I believe the web addy is www.codeweavers/techno/wine.html. But try just www.codeweavers.com if that doesn't work there are links from there. HTH? Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all AND Geek vs whatever
Well Miark, if it s that important, I'm in Bainbridge GA. I want to apologize to all offended. I didn't intend imply that people were too tired or occupied to reply to questions. And I'm really not some kind of asshole. Although looking back ( hindsight - always 20/20 ), my post does seem to indicate so. I just didn't understand why chit-chat received so much more attention than ( at least my ) tech-related questions. Now I have a better understanding. With that said, on to current problems I recently, against my better judgement and on advice given from someone on this list, performed an OS upgrade to fix a boot problem caused by altering my partition table. The problem is now fixed. I can boot without the boot disk now. BUT, this caused more problems: 1- I cannot "su". error reads: "su: cannot set groups: Operation not permitted" 2- I cannot mount or umount as user. ( I could before ) 3- I cannot run a program as root. error reads: GET THIS "Incorrect password! Please try again." 4- I cannot log in as root on CLI, only in GUI - this makes ABSOLUTLY NO sense to me whatsoever I have no idea how to fix any of these. Any help would be most appreciated. David Bainbridge, GA On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:36:04 -0700 Miark Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 00:08:25 -0500, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke > thusly: > > > Yes this is a community, and it does have a very _welcome_ feel to it. > > But I have a point to make. > > > > My email a while ago received quite a number of replies. I have > > posted actual problems to this list more than a couple of times and > > the total number or responses from them all did not equal the ones > > from this evening (read: some were not answered at all). > > The two phenomenon (receiving no problem responses and receiving > many "I'm from" responses) are unrelated. When you don't get responses > to questions, it's usually because people either don't see the question, > or they don't know the answer. It's not because they typed 50 characters > to identify their location then got too tired to type anything else. > > On the other hand, most people know where they live, so it's only > natural that those responses outweigh anything else. Case in point: > we've had several "lurkers" speak up to identify themselves. > > I've had several occasions where I posted problems and received no > responses--it happens. But the cause is not other discussions. > > Now where are you from? Don't make me do an IP lookup--that would take > away all the fun! > > Miark > > -- °°° Mandrake Linux 8.1 Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk KDE 2.2.1 Sylpheed 0.7.2 David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Homepagewww.davidlsteiner.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Can't login to SunOS from Mandrake via telnet
Hello all, I have Mandrake 8.1 on my laptop and am trying to telnet to a SunOS box. I have tried all the terminals and am having the following problem: I type: telnet and press Enter I get: SunOS 5.6 login: After the login I type my username and press Enter, but the cursor just moves to the "l" of login (on the same line) and does nothing. I never get a prompt for a password and eventually the connection times out. I have been able to login just fine from Windows, but need access to this server from within Mandrake. (it is a dual boot system) Any suggestions are appreciated, Kevin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Fetchmail .....
Hey .. I've worked out fetchmail works with a command of - fetchmail -u user mail.server.com Can I use a command to deliver that email to a mailbox outside this server? .. ie - if I wanted to deliver the email to - [EMAIL PROTECTED] can this be done with a simple commandline? .. I know I can set a local account to alias elsewhere, but I'm trying to acheive this in one step. Thanks in advance .. Brett .. ps the hotmail address is a fake!. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Printer Problems
Rich, On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:36, in Re: [newbie] Printer Problems, you wrote: > Never mind. :) I did a little more research and found the CUPS > administrative tool. CUPS required that I log on as root before > it would let me delete the job. Maybe that was the problem with > the Print Job Admin tool, I wasn't logged in as root. I have had one that CUPS would not do either. In the end I learnt a lot about Linux: In the command line use ps -ax to see all the processes. I then learn to pipe those to grep to find the processess related to the printer eg: ps -ax | grep l or ps -ax | grep parallel etc. then use kill to get rid of it. The last one that CUPS would not do could not be killed that way either! I used: kill -s SIGKILL 2345 That did it! Walter -- Walter Logeman Psychotherapist http://www.psybernet.co.nz Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I got the 2nd NIC start another round ?
On Wednesday 13 March 2002 12:50 am, Hanan Shargi wrote: > Hey Gerald > guess WHAT > > I'm able to see the internet form the w2k Machine !!1 > Hhh :)) > > and I dont even know how I did it !!! Youre good! fantanstic > I cant belive this : from the w2k machine i cant ping anything but the > gateway ( the actual isp gateway ) I am confused, I thought the Linux Machine was the local gateway. So the w2k must be going through hanan eth1 then hanan eth0 to get to the Internet. so from the w2k machine you should be able to ping 192.168.0.1 (hanan-eth1) start -> run -> ping 192.168.0.1 > and fromm the linux machine, thats another story !! > > - > Hanan AL-Shargi -- Gerald Waugh http://frontstreetnetworks.com New Haven, Connecticut USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I got the 2nd NIC start another round ?
Ohh dont worry about that Gerald, thats a fake name anyway :) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 10:28 pm, you wrote: Come on Alex, what is? what do you want? -- Gerald Waugh Connecticut USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I got the 2nd NIC start another round ?
On Wednesday 13 March 2002 12:09 am, you wrote: > On Tuesday 12 March 2002 11:52 pm, you wrote: > > > I set the hosts file on W2K as following: > > > 192.168.0.1hanan.my_isp_domain.com > > > 192.168.0.2w2k.my_isp_domain.com > > Set these up on the linux machine also in /etc/hosts > > Got to looking at those hosts names, > they are not real are they? > (don't use real names) Just remembered what I don't like about the names underscores are not allowed in domain names use a hyphen "-" -- Gerald Waugh Connecticut USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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[newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
Guy, Arkansas USA Presently 40F slightly cloudy, Tomorrow just wait it will change Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I got the 2nd NIC start another round ?
Hey Gerald guess WHAT I'm able to see the internet form the w2k Machine !!1 Hhh :)) and I dont even know how I did it !!! I cant belive this : from the w2k machine i cant ping anything but the gateway ( the actual isp gateway ) and fromm the linux machine, thats another story !! - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all AND Geek vs whatever
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 00:08:25 -0500, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly: > Yes this is a community, and it does have a very _welcome_ feel to it. > But I have a point to make. > > My email a while ago received quite a number of replies. I have posted > actual problems to this list more than a couple of times and the total > number or responses from them all did not equal the ones from this > evening (read: some were not answered at all). The two phenomenon (receiving no problem responses and receiving many "I'm from" responses) are unrelated. When you don't get responses to questions, it's usually because people either don't see the question, or they don't know the answer. It's not because they typed 50 characters to identify their location then got too tired to type anything else. On the other hand, most people know where they live, so it's only natural that those responses outweigh anything else. Case in point: we've had several "lurkers" speak up to identify themselves. I've had several occasions where I posted problems and received no responses--it happens. But the cause is not other discussions. Now where are you from? Don't make me do an IP lookup--that would take away all the fun! Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all AND Geek vs whatever
*Smiles, giggles* Thx Miark for that reply. I certainly wondered how that little outburst would be taken. And FWIW, I'm using that mandrake IRC channel now ;p Femme Miark wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > This list is a _community_, and this community has a very > welcome spot for this type of stuff. God bless all distros, > (yes, even Debian) but this is what separates Mandrake from > RedHat. > > Now, where did you say you're hailing from? > > Miark > > On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:32:41 -0500, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly: > > > TO ALL who have posted to this: > > > > This type of stuff has ABSOLUTLY NO, NONE , ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, place on this list. > Please find a chat room. > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I got the 2nd NIC start another round ?
On Wednesday 13 March 2002 12:27 am, you wrote: > in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts > The eth that is connected to the dsl is eth0 after I added the new NIC I > got those eth1 & eth2 ... > WHY why why I do have 3 of them while I only have 2 NICs? > Are you sure you don't have three since you are using pcmcia, maybe there is a built in one?? -- Gerald Waugh Connecticut USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I got the 2nd NIC start another round ?
On Wednesday 13 March 2002 12:17 am, you wrote: > Well before I move on to connection sharing, shouldnt tha LAN be working > first ? > > I tried switching the cards in the pcmci slots, to see if that 3rd eth wold > go away ,, still there !! > where the hell did this come from ? > Try executing the following when you make changes to the network /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart Why are you using pcmcia cards? Or is this a portable computer? I thought connection sharing would set up the card??? cd /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts look and see if you have ifcfg-eth1 if you don't cp ifcfg-eth0 ifcfg-eth1 #= ifcfg-eth1 DEVICE=eth1 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=192.168.0.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=192.168.0.0 BROADCAST=192.168.0.255 ONBOOT=yes #== Then execute /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart Then see if you can ping the computers -- Gerald Waugh Connecticut USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all AND Geek vs whatever
El Mié 13 Mar 2002 02:08, escribió: > Yes this is a community, and it does have a very _welcome_ feel to it. > But I have a point to make. > > My email a while ago received quite a number of replies. I have posted > actual problems to this list more than a couple of times and the total > number or responses from them all did not equal the ones from this > evening (read: some were not answered at all). > > Is there something I am missing here? Do I just not get it? Someone help > me out here. > well, usually when the list doesn't reply, it because no one can thnk of an answer to your problems yet... however we all seem to know where we live, and since everyone might have a different answer we all do it. this of course doesn't mean that the on-topic posts get less attention. :o) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I got the 2nd NIC start another round ?
in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts I have the following entries (files): ifcfg-eth0, ifcfg-eth1, ifcfg-eth2 respectively: DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=10.0.0.140 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=10.0.0.0 BROADCAST=10.0.0.255 ONBOOT=yes DEVICE=eth1 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=192.168.0.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=192.168.0.0 BROADCAST=192.168.0.255 ONBOOT=yes DEVICE=eth2 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=192.168.0.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=192.168.0.0 BROADCAST=192.168.0.255 ONBOOT=yes HWADDR=00:10:4b:a2:d1:a8 The eth that is connected to the dsl is eth0 after I added the new NIC I got those eth1 & eth2 ... WHY why why I do have 3 of them while I only have 2 NICs? - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I got the 2nd NIC start another round ?
Well before I move on to connection sharing, shouldnt tha LAN be working first ? I tried switching the cards in the pcmci slots, to see if that 3rd eth wold go away ,, still there !! where the hell did this come from ? - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
I am from Edmonton as well - Original Message - From: "Darwin Gottfried" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all : Edmonton as well : : Cheers : dg : - Original Message - : From: "FemmeFatale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:02 PM : Subject: Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all : : : > IP:... Funny Hanan ;) : > : > Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. *Bleah, I want to return to Toronto* : > : > Femme : > : > Paul_Vortex wrote: : > > : > > "Hanan Shargi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote... : > > : > > > Name: Hanan : > > > Country: Fairfax, VA United States : > > > IP: .. nah ;-) : > > : > > Greenock, Scotland here. : > > : > > PV. : > > : > : : > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? : > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com : > : > : : : -- -- : : : : > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? : > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com : > : : : : Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? : Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com : Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all AND Geek vs whatever
Yes this is a community, and it does have a very _welcome_ feel to it. But I have a point to make. My email a while ago received quite a number of replies. I have posted actual problems to this list more than a couple of times and the total number or responses from them all did not equal the ones from this evening (read: some were not answered at all). Is there something I am missing here? Do I just not get it? Someone help me out here. Dave On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 21:30:35 -0700 Miark Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Dave, > > This list is a _community_, and this community has a very > welcome spot for this type of stuff. God bless all distros, > (yes, even Debian) but this is what separates Mandrake from > RedHat. > > Now, where did you say you're hailing from? > > Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Feel like joining in?
Mail me off the mailing list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would like to see what is u r concept and join u Iam a internet developer. Cheers Hari Yellina. www.yellina.org - Original Message - From: "Marco Verheul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:28 AM Subject: [newbie] Feel like joining in? > Hello fellow Linux users, > > An idea popped into my head tonight and I want to do something with it > rightaway. So let me explain. > > I'm relatively new to Linux and I got my LM 8.1 distro running for a > couple of weeks now very smoothly (most of the times). I visited a lot > of Linux related websites and it impressed me to see how many ways there > must be to develop really cool open source software. At this point I'm > particulary interested in learning the skills to built a dynamic website > with underlying database technology. Only it seems I have 2 "problems". > I'm not so creative in coming up with a topic and I don't want to spend > the whole year figuring out MySQL, PHP etc.. on my own locked away > behind my desk. > > So here's the idea. There must be more people with the same ambitions, > so why don't we try to come up with ideas to make this work as a group. > We could build a website about making OUR website (this tackles the > topic problem), so everybody (including ourselves) can see how we did it > and learn from it. Off course we would make use of open source software. > I'm an Oracle programmer myself and I don't have any experience in > building something the open source way, so who is joining in? > > I hope that also the more experienced persons care to join in and let > others profit from your experience. We need to come up with some sort of > structure to do this, get a server to which the group can have access I > suppose and what more..? > > Well, surprise me. Oh yeah, I live in Haarlem, the Netherlands. > > Marco > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I got the 2nd NIC start another round ?
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 11:42 pm, you wrote: > Hi All, > > Its me again, I'm glad the "Shame we live in diff countries" mail got this > much replies today :) Now lets not let this take us away form our main list > objective ;-) > > If you remember I asked for your cooperation in my little project ( > connecting a linux and a W2K machine through a mini LAN, and then to the > Internet keeping in mind my sort of "not traditional" DSL setup. > > One good reply from Robin, who gave me this tip for how to physically > connect > > the 2 machines: > > if you want to use your computer for sharing > > > > Wall jack - computer1 - computer 2 > > > > 2 NIC for computer 1 and 1 NIC for computer 2 > > SO, I got the second NIC ( fast huh ? and you thought you'r gonna have some > headache free time ;) ) > > I plugged the 3com pcmci card in, it was recognized by MD, YET in the > control center under networking it shows 3 (yes 3) eth0, eth1, eth2 !! > I didnt bother to see why, and I went on to set the cables this way : > > cable coming from wall ==> eth0 (10.0.x.x in the LM machine ) > cable coming out from second NIC ==> eth1 (192.168.0.1 the LM machine ==> > hub cable coming out from W2K machin ==> (192.168.0.2) ==> hub > the 2 cables go to regular ports on the hub ( none goes to the uplink port) Thats good! > I set the hosts file on W2K as following: > 192.168.0.1hanan.my_isp_domain.com > 192.168.0.2w2k.my_isp_domain.com > > ,and gave the TCP/IP configurations the following values: > IP : 192.168.0.2 > DNS : the IPs of the DNS the ISP gave me. > Gateway: 192.168.0.1 Thats Good > LAN is not working machines cannot see each other. > where do i start ? > . suggestions, hints, questions, All welcomed :) > Try using Control Center -> Network & Internet -> Connection Sharing walk through the setup wizard and let us know if you need help. Don't forget it's the 2nd NIC (I assume its on eth 1) -- Gerald Waugh Connecticut USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARRRRRGH Big stinky MESS!!!! (was : Xwindows and RPMdrake problems}
Bill Winegarden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote... > Hi, > Been there, done that. I think that you might have been able to recover your > installation with a little more info, tho. > In any case, if you are about to do a fresh install, you might consider > hanging tough for a little while longerLM 8.2 is almost done and I hear > it is really sweet. > If you think you might want to upgrade at a later date it might be wise to > start with the latest now. Thats certainly an option. One things for certain... I'll be reading a bit more about how that partition part of the installation works before I attempt anything further. Cheers. (I'm actually glad it happened now - Nice clean machine!) :o) PV. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: AAAARRGGH! - Big stinky MESS! [WAS : 'X Windows problem!' and 'RPMdrake Problem']
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 21:18, you wrote: > Is it just *ME*!? > > I tried the suggestion for doing an update install of the Mandrake 8.1 and > the whole thing went *HAYWIRE*! > > For some reason, it still wanted to mess around with *partitions*! I got > mixed up and must've clicked the wrong button and it destroyed my > partitions set up... Totally unrecoverable!... My regular windows boot > couldn't even *see* the C:\ drive! > > I lost GIGABYTES and GIGABYTES of data!! > > For the past 4 hours I have been salvaging my machine. > > I am up and running again (thanks to a recent move to making backups of at > least *some* of my stuff) Oh, but the *LOSS*! :o( > > I *really* want this to work... but I can't help feeling I'm just a dumb > prick to be meddling in things beyond my ken! > > But... on the positive side, I have a fresh new machine, with 10 GIGABYTES > of free space on it (where before I had around 200MB)... and I'm at the > stage where I can do a 'from scratch' install of Mandrake 8.1 (hopefully > with some guidance so as to avoid another mishap... or disaster mor like). > > I want to re-install... but I'm totally scared I blow it all to hell > again At least now I've a *lot* less to loose. > > Oh Man. > > That really freaked me out. > > PV. > > > > - Original Message - > From: Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Paul_Vortex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:23 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] X Windows problem! > > > On Monday 11 March 2002 06:51, you wrote: > > > Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes... > > > > > > > ...it can be accessed by command line by typing " rpmdrake". And it > > > > shows up as Software Manager not Package Manager. Mia Culpa. If you > > get > > > > an > > > > > > > error on rpmdrake you may have to install it, but I doubt it cause it > > is > > > > or > > > > > > > should have been installed automagically. HTH > > > > > > Excellent!... But I got a problem with this... > > > > > > Gtk-Warning **: cannot open display > > > > > > (It asked for my password, so I guessed it needed me as root... SU'd to > > > Root, ran RPMdrake, and that's what I got) > > > > > > Does that mean that it isn't installed properly? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > -Paul. > > > > Paul, are you running Mandrake in init3 single user mode with no desktop > > loaded? If so start KDE and then go to a console and su to root and type > > the > > > rpmdrake. If you do have a desktop up and running then yes you need to > > go > > to > > > the Software installer and get rpmdrake loaded cause it must not be. Let > > us > > > know what is the case. > > -- > > Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Kidding about being clueless, but now post your partition setup. You can do a "df" in a control panel. It will show you your partition setup if you didn't already know that. You can highlight it and then in a new email message get the cursor on an empty spot in the message box and click the middle button of you mouse, that should paste it in the message. If you don't have a middle button click both right and left at the same time and that will do the paste. (just in case you didn't know that) Then we can give you abit better advice maybe on reinstalling and setting up your system. HTH -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I got the 2nd NIC start another round ?
Hi All, Its me again, I'm glad the "Shame we live in diff countries" mail got this much replies today :) Now lets not let this take us away form our main list objective ;-) If you remember I asked for your cooperation in my little project ( connecting a linux and a W2K machine through a mini LAN, and then to the Internet keeping in mind my sort of "not traditional" DSL setup. One good reply from Robin, who gave me this tip for how to physically connect the 2 machines: > if you want to use your computer for sharing > > Wall jack - computer1 - computer 2 > > 2 NIC for computer 1 and 1 NIC for computer 2 SO, I got the second NIC ( fast huh ? and you thought you'r gonna have some headache free time ;) ) I plugged the 3com pcmci card in, it was recognized by MD, YET in the control center under networking it shows 3 (yes 3) eth0, eth1, eth2 !! I didnt bother to see why, and I went on to set the cables this way : cable coming from wall ==> eth0 (10.0.x.x in the LM machine ) cable coming out from second NIC ==> eth1 (192.168.0.1 the LM machine ==> hub cable coming out from W2K machin ==> (192.168.0.2) ==> hub the 2 cables go to regular ports on the hub ( none goes to the uplink port) I set the hosts file on W2K as following: 192.168.0.1hanan.my_isp_domain.com 192.168.0.2w2k.my_isp_domain.com ,and gave the TCP/IP configurations the following values: IP : 192.168.0.2 DNS : the IPs of the DNS the ISP gave me. Gateway: 192.168.0.1 LAN is not working machines cannot see each other. where do i start ? . suggestions, hints, questions, All welcomed :) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all AND Geek vs whatever
Hi Dave, This list is a _community_, and this community has a very welcome spot for this type of stuff. God bless all distros, (yes, even Debian) but this is what separates Mandrake from RedHat. Now, where did you say you're hailing from? Miark On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:32:41 -0500, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly: > TO ALL who have posted to this: > > This type of stuff has ABSOLUTLY NO, NONE , ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, place on this list. >Please find a chat room. > > > > On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:18:22 -0800 > Mithrilhall2000 "Mithrilhall2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Chicopee, Massachusetts > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Hanan Shargi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: March 12, 2002 7:49 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all > > > > > > Paul Vortex wrote this on his reply to "programs running on wine" post, > > > > and since there is this trend in the past 2 days in the list where > > people are > > posting things that are not "neccesarily" <== ( never mind the spelling > > ... would be nice to add a spell checker in Kmail ) related > > to the list objectivs :) > > > > Why dont we people post in what part of the world r we ?? > > > > starter: > > > > Name: Hanan > > Country: Fairfax, VA United States > > IP: .. nah ;-) > > > > - > > Hanan AL-Shargi > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > °°° > Mandrake Linux 8.1 Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk > KDE 2.2.1Sylpheed 0.7.2 > > David L. Steiner > Registered Linux User #262493 > Homepage www.davidlsteiner.com > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > °°° > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
I lived here in Northwest Arkansas for about 2 years. It is a beautiful part of the Ozarks. Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all AND Geek vswhatever
Lighten up, Francis. On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, David wrote: > TO ALL who have posted to this: > > This type of stuff has ABSOLUTLY NO, NONE , ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, place on this list. >Please find a chat room. > > > > On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:18:22 -0800 > Mithrilhall2000 "Mithrilhall2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Chicopee, Massachusetts > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Hanan Shargi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: March 12, 2002 7:49 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all > > > > > > Paul Vortex wrote this on his reply to "programs running on wine" post, > > > > and since there is this trend in the past 2 days in the list where > > people are > > posting things that are not "neccesarily" <== ( never mind the spelling > > ... would be nice to add a spell checker in Kmail ) related > > to the list objectivs :) > > > > Why dont we people post in what part of the world r we ?? > > > > starter: > > > > Name: Hanan > > Country: Fairfax, VA United States > > IP: .. nah ;-) > > > > - > > Hanan AL-Shargi > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Any First Go success stories ?
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 17:10, john rigby opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: > As for Frontpage, the dozen or so people I know who make a living - yes, > actually pay their rent from their activities as serious Web Implementers > *all* use FP. Specifically, FP98. ( There are excellent reasons for it bullshit, really, seriously, FP is good only for creating MS documents for MSbrowsers, and anyone who thinks that is all you need will have a rude awakening when a combination of linux/mac/bsd users and AOL using gecko as their engine puts IE back under 40% on the browser share. front page is to the webpages what oil spills are to the environment, a big stinking mess that someone will have to clean or will just keep on destroying. i was taking you seriously until now. lets get one thing straight. anyone who can install any other OS can install linux. yes this leaves some people out, but those people couldn't install windows either. shall we make them all use type writers? i have no idea what your goal is here, but seem not to be asking for help, you have not mentioned a problem of your own, and you continue to disagree with everything said. "no linux can be installed without too much messing around." i say i have "then you are a geek you don't count!" well i still have friends who have installed mandrake who can't even tell you what cards they have in the system, you ignore that. fine, please use something, and go away or "i shall replace you with a very small shell script" -- "If Microsoft is innovative in any area, it is in creating new forms of intimidation." - Ralph Nader shane http://shentzu.home.mindspring.com/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org/ cause humans do it better! Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
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> Why dont we people post in what part of the world r we ??
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Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 17:49, ed tharp opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: > hey shane, if it talks like a geek, and walks like a geek, and can > install any OS, then Jon says you are a geek then i fail the redhat test. :-P -- Microsoft: Having a false sense of security was never so expensive. shane http://shentzu.home.mindspring.com/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org/ cause humans do it better! Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARRRRRGH Big stinky MESS!!!! (was : Xwindows and RPMdrake problems}
Hi, Been there, done that. I think that you might have been able to recover your installation with a little more info, tho. In any case, if you are about to do a fresh install, you might consider hanging tough for a little while longerLM 8.2 is almost done and I hear it is really sweet. If you think you might want to upgrade at a later date it might be wise to start with the latest now. Just my $.02 Bill W. On Tuesday 12 March 2002 07:37 pm, you wrote: > Is it just *ME*!? > > I tried the suggestion for doing an update install of the Mandrake 8.1 and > the whole thing went *HAYWIRE*! > > For some reason, it still wanted to mess around with *partitions*! I got > mixed up and must've clicked the wrong button and it destroyed my > partitions set up... Totally unrecoverable!... My regular windows boot > couldn't even *see* the C:\ drive! > > I lost GIGABYTES and GIGABYTES of data!! > > For the past 4 hours I have been salvaging my machine. > > I am up and running again (thanks to a recent move to making backups of at > least *some* of my stuff) Oh, but the *LOSS*! :o( > > I *really* want this to work... but I can't help feeling I'm just a dumb > prick to be meddling in things beyond my ken! > > But... on the positive side, I have a fresh new machine, with 10 GIGABYTES > of free space on it (where before I had around 200MB)... and I'm at the > stage where I can do a 'from scratch' install of Mandrake 8.1 (hopefully > with some guidance so as to avoid another mishap... or disaster mor like). > > I want to re-install... but I'm totally scared I blow it all to hell > again At least now I've a *lot* less to loose. > > Oh Man. > > That really freaked me out. > > ...GIGABYTES... > > PV Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:43:45 -0600, Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 12 March 2002 01:17 pm, quaylar wrote: > > Austria(no cangaroos and boomerangs here *g*) > > 20° Celsius > > Geez it's winter in South Texas and it hit close 30°C here today > that's more commonly known as about 85° in these parts. > Almost warm enough to hit the beach, not quite tho, still a little > too chilly ;) > > Thought y'all were havin summer Down Under ? Since spring > starts here in a few days... y'all fixin to do autumn ? Quaylar is from Austria, a nation in Europe [and a nice one at that :) ]. Austria != Australia I'm in Sydney, Australia [no Kangaroos here either, unless you travel a few hundred kilometres inland, or visit a zoo :) ]. It's 14:30 and 23 degrees Celsius (it's usually hotter, but we've had a lot of rain the past few days). -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "We like to think of ourselves as the Microsoft of the energy world" -- Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ARRRRRGH Big stinky MESS!!!! (was : Xwindows and RPMdrake problems}
Is it just *ME*!?I tried the suggestion for doing an update install of the Mandrake 8.1 andthe whole thing went *HAYWIRE*!For some reason, it still wanted to mess around with *partitions*! I gotmixed up and must've clicked the wrong button and it destroyed my partitionsset up... Totally unrecoverable!... My regular windows boot couldn't even*see* the C:\ drive!I lost GIGABYTES and GIGABYTES of data!!For the past 4 hours I have been salvaging my machine.I am up and running again (thanks to a recent move to making backups of atleast *some* of my stuff) Oh, but the *LOSS*! :o(I *really* want this to work... but I can't help feeling I'm just a dumbprick to be meddling in things beyond my ken!But... on the positive side, I have a fresh new machine, with 10 GIGABYTESof free space on it (where before I had around 200MB)... and I'm at thestage where I can do a 'from scratch' install of Mandrake 8.1 (hopefullywith some guidance so as to avoid another mishap... or disaster mor like).I want to re-install... but I'm totally scared I blow it all to hellagain At least now I've a *lot* less to loose.Oh Man.That really freaked me out. ...GIGABYTES... PV
RE: Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
West side of Indianapolis Indiana Larry Varney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:48:30 -0500 >> Hanan Shargi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>Why dont we people post in what part of the world r we ?? >>> >> > > > Just about 10 miles due south of Cincinnati, OH. > > > > > >-- >Larry Varney >Cold Spring, KY >http://w3.one.net/~lvarney > > > -- Linux The Number one Os __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
Chicopee, Massachusetts -Original Message- From: Hanan Shargi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: March 12, 2002 7:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all Paul Vortex wrote this on his reply to "programs running on wine" post, and since there is this trend in the past 2 days in the list where people are posting things that are not "neccesarily" <== ( never mind the spelling ... would be nice to add a spell checker in Kmail ) related to the list objectivs :) Why dont we people post in what part of the world r we ?? starter: Name: Hanan Country: Fairfax, VA United States IP: .. nah ;-) - Hanan AL-Shargi _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
- Original Message - From: shane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all > On Tuesday 12 March 2002 08:26, Myers, Dennis R NWO opened a hailing > frequency and transmitted: > > > LoL... ever hear of Pigdog? Being a Sanfranciscan and all. > > fraid not, but i have only been here 2 years. :-P > > i have learned there is a reason berkely invented both UNIX and LSD > though. :-D The connections are deep and ageless! heh. PV. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:48:30 -0500 > Hanan Shargi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Why dont we people post in what part of the world r we ?? >> > Just about 10 miles due south of Cincinnati, OH. -- Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://w3.one.net/~lvarney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all AND Geek vs whatever
TO ALL who have posted to this: This type of stuff has ABSOLUTLY NO, NONE , ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, place on this list. Please find a chat room. On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:18:22 -0800 Mithrilhall2000 "Mithrilhall2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chicopee, Massachusetts > > -Original Message- > From: Hanan Shargi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: March 12, 2002 7:49 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all > > > Paul Vortex wrote this on his reply to "programs running on wine" post, > > and since there is this trend in the past 2 days in the list where > people are > posting things that are not "neccesarily" <== ( never mind the spelling > ... would be nice to add a spell checker in Kmail ) related > to the list objectivs :) > > Why dont we people post in what part of the world r we ?? > > starter: > > Name: Hanan > Country: Fairfax, VA United States > IP: .. nah ;-) > > - > Hanan AL-Shargi > > > > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > -- °°° Mandrake Linux 8.1 Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk KDE 2.2.1 Sylpheed 0.7.2 David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Homepagewww.davidlsteiner.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake's financial situation
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 09:58 pm, you wrote: > pay pal is also one of the most insecure methods of doing e-business so > I'm told by a business friend of mine. > > True? No? > I vote False -- Gerald Waugh Connecticut USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't login to SunOS from Mandrake via telnet
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 08:36 pm, you wrote: > Hello all, > > I have Mandrake 8.1 on my laptop and am trying to telnet to a SunOS box. I > have tried all the terminals and am having the following problem: > > I type: telnet and press Enter > > I get: > > SunOS 5.6 > > login: > > After the login I type my username and press Enter, but the cursor just > moves to the "l" of login (on the same line) and does nothing. I never get > a prompt for a password and eventually the connection times out. > > I have been able to login just fine from Windows, but need access to this > server from within Mandrake. (it is a dual boot system) > > Any suggestions are appreciated, > Kevin Set your xterm Settings -< Keyboard to Linux Console HTH -- Gerald Waugh Connecticut USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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[newbie] nikon coolpix?
Hi. Has anyone had luck with getting any of the Nikon digital cameras to work with Mandrake 8.1? Specifically, the usb connectivity? I read a page on the web, pointed to by gphoto.org, which says that the camera can be accessed as a mass-storage usb device, using the scsi subsystem: " When configuring the kernel you must enable SCSI support and SCSI hard disk support as well as the support for VFAT file systems, as the storage of the camera is accessed as a VFAT partition on a SCSI hard disk. Of course you must enable USB support and USB mass storage support and the USB controller you are using (UHCI or OHCI)." It says that the 2.4.18-pre3+ kernel is required. Also, if I install the kernel from the rpms from mdk, how do I enable scsi support, and scsi hard disk support? Is it a lilo option, or some file in /etc? Or maybe its a kernel module? Similarly, how can I enable vfat support? thanks for your help, Vijay Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:45:39 +1000 "john rigby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Michael, > > Then by definition they are ipso facto, NOT "real" Geeks. :-) > > NB: In the weird world of Computers, the hierachy is very strict. > Techo's look down on the Marketeers, Programmers look down on both of > them and REAL Designers don't even acknowledge the existence of any of > the others except as nuisances on the long haul to PAI ( pure artificial > intelligence). > > BTW: There is a sub-group called "Customer Support Staff" and nothing > much is known about them.. they are REALLY strange and like the > Big Bang Theory, the question is how the Support person became like > that.. or were they that way inclined? > > Cheers, > > Him Again > > - Original Message - > From: Michael Viron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 1:06 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma. > > > > >4. Pro Geek. Makes an actual living as technician in the field. > > >Highly paid > > >for his (rarely her) work, if ANY good at all, due to general great > > >lack of > > >competence in the technical area. Always extremely busy. Extremely > > >poor communicators. Need to simply be given the job to do. Never ask > > >them questions. > > > > Not necessarily true -- there are some people who are making a living > > as a"technician" or more generally, in information technology, and are > > quite capable of communicating their ideas effectively in a way that > > "non-geeks" can understand. John, why don't you stop asking questions if you already know all the answers? Todd -- Todd Slater I believe that the testing of the student's achievements in order to see if he meets some criterion held by the teacher, is directly contrary to the implications of therapy for significant learning. (Carl Rogers) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
Edmonton as well Cheers dg - Original Message - From: "FemmeFatale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all > IP:... Funny Hanan ;) > > Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. *Bleah, I want to return to Toronto* > > Femme > > Paul_Vortex wrote: > > > > "Hanan Shargi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote... > > > > > Name: Hanan > > > Country: Fairfax, VA United States > > > IP: .. nah ;-) > > > > Greenock, Scotland here. > > > > PV. > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Frequently Asked Questions
My start on the frequently asked questions has moved due to a policy change by the group who was formerly handling website storage for my website. (They converted their linux servers to part of an all-Windows design lab by direction of the higher-ups in the dept sponsoring their group). They are now available at http://findaschool.org/~mviron/faqs/ -- especially http://findaschool.org/~mviron/faqs/linux.php and http://findaschool.org/~mviron/faqs/redhat.php . Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Any First Go success stories ?
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 19:00:20 +1000 "john rigby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > Is there anyone out there who has simply put in the full distro CDs and > obtained a working ( really working - Office suite, communications, > ViaVoice, replacement for FrontPage98) and a few user utilities? > WITHOUT RESORTING TO ARCANE COMMAND LINE APPROACHES. > Can we even say that e.g. the Intel P3 works with it? AMD? (Duron or > Athlon?) I suppose I am a hobbyist geek, though I am ancient (33). I had no trouble at all installing the downloaded 8.1 on my home-built system which previously housed Windows98: Asus P5A mobo, AMD K62 500mhz, 384MB RAM, 8 gig HD, ATI AGP XPERT98, Ensoniq sb compatible (taken from my old computer), HP CD-RW. I did a dual boot with W98 until I got a $9 NIC to try with my cable modem to make sure I could get on with Mandrake, and as soon as I could, I wiped Windows. Everything was easy. Things that have gone wrong have done so because I tinker. It's the same thing I did with Windows95, and that's how I learn. I have a feeling I'll be disqualified from your survey because I've used acronyms and specified models. When I started (about 2 months ago), I hated command line. Now I love it. Just as I learned to do things more efficiently in Windows, so have I done in Linux. This is what happens with practice and use--one actually becomes more competent. Does that make me a geek? I don't think so. Everyday I work with teachers who would not know the difference between W98 and Mandrake 8.1 running KDE--and that's because they don't know W98. If you don't know anything about computers, does it matter whether you learn Mac, Win, Linux, or whatever? If you ask me, installing the OS yourself automatically qualifies you for geekhood :-o As for office apps and such, I am happy to say I haven't had occasion to start openoffice.org more than 3 times, and one of those was to teach my wife how to edit files I saved from Windows. I use Linux at home, for fun, and prefer to leave work at work. This is strictly play--Apache, icecast, GIMPing, writing shell scripts, trying to learn Perl etc. Oddly enough, this will probably spill over to work as I plan to set up a Linux server there to experiment with open source educational apps. Mis dos centavitos. Todd -- Todd Slater No use to shout at them to pay attention. If the situations, the materials, the problems before the child do not interest him, his attention will slip off to what does interest him, and no amount of exhortation of threats will bring it back. (John Holt) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake's financial situation
pay pal is also one of the most insecure methods of doing e-business so I'm told by a business friend of mine. True? No? Femme john rigby wrote: > > Hi , > There is a simple alternative: PayPal > Don't know why every commercial Site doesn't have it > oh "commercial". That is what Mandrake isn't is it? :-( > > Everyone should use it - it stops the typical Bank ripoffs and anyone in > most countries CAN use it > http://www.paypal.com > > What Mandrake could do is offer everyone of their friends a "free" boxed set > and upgrades for the next 3 years for $100 and membership for life as a > "Foundation Member" works every time. > OR $10 p.a. paid via PayPal per year. > > Cheers, > > John > "The only thing I DO understand is marketing. It costs a lot of money to do > it." > Rigby circa 1980 > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Feel like joining in?
I already have something semi-geared towards that, although it has largely been dormant for the last year or so (since I've been busy with other projects I'm involved with). It's tentatively titled 'Academic Web Information Repository' -- although I'm certainly not glued to the name. If any of you are thinking along those lines, let me know and I'll start investing at least some time into it. Michael -- President / Founder, Academic Web Information Repository Project Manager / Primary Developer, General Education Online Database Administrator / Web Statistician, Simple End User Linux. At 10:28 PM 3/12/2002 +0100, you wrote: >Hello fellow Linux users, > >An idea popped into my head tonight and I want to do something with it >rightaway. So let me explain. > >I'm relatively new to Linux and I got my LM 8.1 distro running for a >couple of weeks now very smoothly (most of the times). I visited a lot >of Linux related websites and it impressed me to see how many ways there >must be to develop really cool open source software. At this point I'm >particulary interested in learning the skills to built a dynamic website >with underlying database technology. Only it seems I have 2 "problems". >I'm not so creative in coming up with a topic and I don't want to spend >the whole year figuring out MySQL, PHP etc.. on my own locked away >behind my desk. > >So here's the idea. There must be more people with the same ambitions, >so why don't we try to come up with ideas to make this work as a group. >We could build a website about making OUR website (this tackles the >topic problem), so everybody (including ourselves) can see how we did it >and learn from it. Off course we would make use of open source software. >I'm an Oracle programmer myself and I don't have any experience in >building something the open source way, so who is joining in? > >I hope that also the more experienced persons care to join in and let >others profit from your experience. We need to come up with some sort of >structure to do this, get a server to which the group can have access I >suppose and what more..? > >Well, surprise me. Oh yeah, I live in Haarlem, the Netherlands. > >Marco > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 01:17 pm, quaylar wrote: > Austria(no cangaroos and boomerangs here *g*) > 20° Celsius Geez it's winter in South Texas and it hit close 30°C here today that's more commonly known as about 85° in these parts. Almost warm enough to hit the beach, not quite tho, still a little too chilly ;) Thought y'all were havin summer Down Under ? Since spring starts here in a few days... y'all fixin to do autumn ? -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:48:30 -0500 Hanan Shargi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why dont we people post in what part of the world r we ?? Zanesville, Ohio. About 60 miles east of Columbus. Winter? What winter? -- Todd Slater The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately... education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square. (Oscar Wilde) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
Well, Australia. No, not Austria, ORSTRALIA the REAL Godzone. Caloundra in S.E. Queensland Caloundra (26°51'30"S 152°58'30"E) Where Queens just aren't welcome funnily enough. Tough place. It *IS* like the Texans think Texas is. In fact we have a tiny little town here called Texas. Cheers, John Him Again P.S. You do get a different view from downunder - Original Message - From: Joe Brand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 7:40 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all > Dr Joe > > Frenchtown, New Jersey. > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael T. Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:16 PM > Subject: RE: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all > > > > Even though I'm only basically lurking and learning, I'm still here...:) > > > > Mike - Draper, UT, USA! > > > > Mike Richards > > > > > > Bill; You forgot to say Raining and Damp ! > > > > Lanman > > Formerly of Abbotsford and now in Montreal, where it's a chilly -10 > degrees > > Celsius, but it's a "dry Chill"! > > - Original Message - > > From: "Bill Winegarden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > British Columbia Canada..just above 0 degrees C (32 degrees F) > > > > > > Home of hockey GOLD! > > > > > > Bill W. > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 12 March 2002 11:23 am, you wrote: > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Hanan Shargi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:48 AM > > > > Subject: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all > > > > > > > > > Why dont we people post in what part of the world r we ?? > > > > > > > > > > starter: > > > > > > > > > > Name: Hanan > > > > > Country: Fairfax, VA United States > > > > > IP: .. nah ;-) > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Hanan AL-Shargi > > > > > > > > Jim Gentry > > > > Charleston, SC, USA > > > > "Where the Ashley and Cooper rivers > > > > converge to form the Atlantic Ocean." > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- -- > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake's financial situation
- Original Message - From: shane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 3:00 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake's financial situation > On Tuesday 12 March 2002 08:28, Tom Brinkman opened a hailing frequency and > transmitted: > > > Otherwise you'll probly end up runnin RedHat . maybe even worse, > > M$ Linux paid for on a $ub$cription basis ;~>> > > you really know how to scare a person, don't you? the thought of MSLinux > alone is worse any of those hollywood horror flicks. AAARGGHH THAT there is the best motivator I've heard of in many a decade!! No sleep tonight... Dot NET 'em is bad enough. Cheers? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake's financial situation
Hi , There is a simple alternative: PayPal Don't know why every commercial Site doesn't have it oh "commercial". That is what Mandrake isn't is it? :-( Everyone should use it - it stops the typical Bank ripoffs and anyone in most countries CAN use it http://www.paypal.com What Mandrake could do is offer everyone of their friends a "free" boxed set and upgrades for the next 3 years for $100 and membership for life as a "Foundation Member" works every time. OR $10 p.a. paid via PayPal per year. Cheers, John "The only thing I DO understand is marketing. It costs a lot of money to do it." Rigby circa 1980 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 18:26:57 -0700 FemmeFatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration: >No no! Please do :) > >My ego needs to be taken down a peg or 3 ;P > >besides I have no children of my own, so I had to try right? > >Femme == Nah..., you're ego sounds just fine; quite understated in fact. I have two sons (mid-teens ;) ). I don't think you want to play "Mom" to all of us adolescents on *this* list Mike -- "The greatest thing you will ever learn is just to love... ...and be loved in return." --Nature Boy _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 10:06, you wrote: > >4. Pro Geek. Makes an actual living as technician in the field. Highly > > paid for his (rarely her) work, if ANY good at all, due to general great > > lack of competence in the technical area. Always extremely busy. > > Extremely poor communicators. Need to simply be given the job to do. > > Never ask them questions. > > Not necessarily true -- there are some people who are making a living as a > "technician" or more generally, in information technology, and are quite > capable of communicating their ideas effectively in a way that "non-geeks" > can understand. ahhh what??? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake's financial situation
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 11:55 am, Seedkum Aladeem wrote: > Can we become share holders in Mandrake with our > contribution/subscription? That will give some of us more > incentive. > > Seedkum Well, IMO, the incentive should be for preserving the best free Linux distro going, both in a freedom and free beer sense. Not 'what's in it for me'... you're already gettin that just usin Mandrake. BUT, Yes you can invest http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/investors IIRC it's also an OTC stock on American exchanges, contact your broker BUT (I've always got'a BUT don't I ;) IMO, your best way to immediately support Mandrake is to directly contribute, eg, The Mandrake Club. ( Una$$ a few bucks, you'll feel better ;) http://mandrakeclub.com Next best would be to buy Mandrake products directly thru their store http://www.mandrakestore.com including 8.2 when it's available. Very soon. Word is you'll be able to pre-order it shortly. After that, next best would be to d/l, beg, borrow or buy CD's (eg, Cheapbytes) AND THEN send Mandrake a contribution and/or join the Club. Last, and probly the least contribution (Mandrake doesn't make much, the middle men do) is to buy Mandrake in a store like Wal*Mart or Best Buy, or other retail outlet. Otherwise you'll probly end up runnin RedHat . maybe even worse, M$ Linux paid for on a $ub$cription basis. _Seriously_ -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas > > On Tuesday 12 March 2002 08:28 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > On Tuesday 12 March 2002 09:18 am, sda wrote: > > > That said I'd like to join the club, however each time I've > > > tried it asks for a credit card number and won't let me proceed > > > without entering one. I'm quite surprised that MandrakeSoft > > > doesn't provide for alternative methods of payment. I for one, > > > *never* provide my credit card information online or over the > > > telephone as a matter of principal. I hope someone from > > > MandrakeSoft gets this loud and clear. I will contribute, but > > > only by cheque/mo `what-have-you' and a snail mail address. > > > > MandrakeSoft inc. > > 2400 N. Lincoln Avenue > > Altadena, CA 91001 > > Tel: +1 (626) 296-6290 > > > > FWIW tho, I've used my credit card on the Net for years, > > *never* any problem, including with Mandrake. Unlike many sites > > they don't store your card number in a database, ie, from the > > receipt: > > > > Payment Method: MasterCard > > Name on Card: Thomas M Brinkman > > Credit card number: Not stored in database > > Transaction Number: 005-634605 > > > > Contributions started well over a year ago with most people > > begging for a way to do it by credit card. But, if y'all really > > just don't want to, then please send a contributon by snail mail. > > Otherwise you'll probly end up runnin RedHat . maybe even > > worse, M$ Linux paid for on a $ub$cription basis ;~>> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Any First Go success stories ?
Hi Terry, Great! What are you using it for? What is the comparative speed like? What sort of system? Are you a User or a Geek, would you say? I think it offers a great answer for the small business person especially. Cheers, John - Original Message - From: Terry S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I was able to get Win4Lin working in one go. After I bought my copy, I > went to their website and downloaded the newest installer program. > Things worked like a champ from there. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GNUCash vs ?
On Monday 11 March 2002 21:12, you wrote: > Hi, > > Area there any other checkbook programs available. I tried GNUCash, but > have a hard time getting used to it. I like the way Quicken or Money > works. The GNUCash seems backwards to me. > Have a look at MoneyDance or Kapital Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Any First Go success stories ?
Hi Shane, Sorry you are disqualified, too! :-) You are obviously very techo if not Geek! What I'm chasing is whether any non-tech/geek people have ever succeeded. These are Users. People who simply want to make/improve their earning capacity via increased productivity. People who are ancient - like over 30. Vis: Anyone who has previously successfully installed any kind of Network is disqualified. :-) Anyone who LOVES the challenge of computer exercises. The THRILL of recovering trashed records, totalled systems. Cheers, John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Any First Go success stories ?
Hi Robin, No wonder she freaked out! The actual inventor at PARC said only a couple of years ago that it was insane to have incorporated that device for the purpose. Actually, "what you are used to" has no relevance in the first approach to computers. There is no usable "referential experience". except intelligence and that is pretty useless where using tinboxes and programs are concerned for the most part. The Managing Director of Osborne Computers told me ( before many of our correspondents here were born, much less working) that my "invention" of the "menu" was going to make it possible for *anyone* to accept and use the microcomputer. I "wrote" it in ASCII and created batch files. It made the Microcomputer accessible/usable for my staff. It was intelligence-oriented. Some actions involved up to thirty letters in input. But not for the staff. This is what it looked like from memory: ++ 1. Write a Letter 2. Add to Accounts 3. Telephone connect 4. HOW TO HELP 5. Save work to Floppy Disk 9. DANGER: Out to DOS +--+ The "Menus" simply cascaded never with more than 5 options. Easy? Even today, we still don't need pretty pikkies and animations - although the kids that "design" frontends love them - it replaces their cartoon lunchboxes.. :-) All we REALLY need are .. simple English Menus. Cheers, John - Original Message - From: Robin Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Any First Go success stories ? > On Tuesday 12 March 2002 11:00, john rigby wrote: > > WITHOUT RESORTING TO ARCANE COMMAND LINE > > APPROACHES. > > How things have changed. I remember, back in 1991 or 1992, teaching > our secretary how to use a computer. Typing was no problem, it was > the mouse that freaked her out - I had to put her hand on the mouse > then put my hand on hers and move it around (it looked pretty > incriminating!). > > Whether the GUI or the command line is easier depends on (a) what > you're used to and (b) what exactly you're trying to do. If you want > to open a program, clicking on an icon is easier. If you want to > find out the status of files in a directory, typing "ll" is easier. > There's nothing inherently arcane about either of them. > > Robin > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
looks like i misunderstood, but your first post looked ... uhm.. not very friendly. i'm very sorry. well, my machine? just a P2 400 MMX .. 256 MB Ram, 6,4 GB and 30 GB hd's, Intel 8 MB AGP video card, 64 bit Creative labs Sound... and yes, a Samsung 12x8x32 burner, which worked right after install. geek... i don't think i tinker enough with the stuff to fall into that category.. however i do spend a lot of time with my computer. i guess i'm kind of a hybrid between regular user and geek, kinda.. i got this Dr. Jeckill & Mr. Hyde into me.. but concerning your questions.. absolutely no tweaking. MDK worked for me 100%. > Hi Damien, > WHOA! > This isn't a fight! :-) > It is simple research > I'm glad for you! > But, are you a geek or a user? ( See my suggested descriptors) > What sort of system was it? > Did you have the Holy Grail - a CDRW? > > - Original Message - > From: Damian Gatabria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:22 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma. > > > > BTW: NOBODY has so far claimed to have met the condition I enquired > > of - > > > > a simple, one-go instal. > > > > ME !!! > > > > happy now? > > don't believe me? i don't care. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba RPM problems
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 11:20, you wrote: > I am trying to up upgrade my samba from 2.0.6 to 2.2.3a on md version 7.0. > I have downloaded and try to run rpm -Fvh and get a failed dependencies > error message. > > error: failed dependencies: > samba-common = 2.2.3a is needed by samba-2.2.3a-1mdk > xinetd is needed by samba-2.2.3a-1mdk > rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 is needed by > samba-2.2.3a-1mdk rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1 is needed by > samba-2.2.3a-1mdk libacl.so.1 is needed by samba-2.2.3a-1mdk > libcups.so.2 is needed by samba-2.2.3a-1mdk > libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) is needed by samba-2.2.3a-1mdk > libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by samba-2.2.3a-1mdk > > Being very new to linux administration, I am unsure of most of these > dependancies. Do I need to download and start installing the rpms for each > one of the dependencies? If so, what kind of impact is this going to have > on my server. I cannot afford to crash this box (experimenting with rpm's) > and have it down for any amount of time. > > Rob Rob, you can find all of the dependencies either on your d/l CDs or by going to http://www.rpmfind.net/ and doing a search on the item. The lib files you list are part of a larger library package as denoted by the .so.2 or .so.6 but if you search using that name it will find the main library package for you and you can download from the web. HTH -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
No no! Please do :) My ego needs to be taken down a peg or 3 ;P besides I have no children of my own, so I had to try right? Femme > > >Rick! You should know better than to mudsling! :) > > > >Then again Nevermind. I won't become a mother on this newsgroup :P > === > I'll avoid the temptation to follow-up on that one... ;-) > > Mike > > -- > "He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that > fool you., he really is an idiot." > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
i am not a geek by _any_ stretch, and other than font de-uglification, all my mandrake installs have been nice and clean, and i had only the instructions from mandrake to depend on. On Tuesday 12 March 2002 16:50, john rigby opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: > Hi Shane, > But how did you all qualify on the Geek Scale? > How long did it take the FIRST one? -- "Followers of tao are nonconformists. The conventional label our behavior erratic, antisocial, irresponsible, inexplicable, outrageous, even scandalous. We hear other voices than they do." -Deng Ming-Dao shane http://shentzu.home.mindspring.com/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org/ cause humans do it better! Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Any First Go success stories ?
Hi Robin, Thanks for the reply, but you don't mention your "qualifications". My whole project is to demystify the thing for people who are simply Users, not Geeks or would-be's. As for Frontpage, the dozen or so people I know who make a living - yes, actually pay their rent from their activities as serious Web Implementers *all* use FP. Specifically, FP98. ( There are excellent reasons for it commercially and productively, if not technically) There is nothing simpler, there is nothing faster, there is nothing cheaper or easier to support - which is where you make or lose your hourly rate in the real world. I have tried to replace it many times ( a sucker for anything promising THIS time it will work :-) ) and still use it. BUT am always happy to hear from anyone about something different, new, better - after all - I've been with Linux since 5.2. :-) BTW: Your comment about people who can't be bothered coding HTML . you qualify as a Geek on THAT alone. :-) Cheers! John "Simply because I know HOW change my own gearbox oil is certainly no reason to do so" - Original Message - From: Robin Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Any First Go success stories ? > As I said, every Mandrake from 7.2 on has worked out of the box on > both my home computer (standard 2CD install) and my office computer > (FTP install) with the sole exception that I mentioned of needing to > type "sndconfig" to get my sound card working. Win 98 actually gave > me more graphic card headaches (no built-in drivers for S3Trio or > Trident, IRQ conflicts after upgrading to a GeForce II). > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:47:29 -0700 FemmeFatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration: >Rick! You should know better than to mudsling! :) > >Then again Nevermind. I won't become a mother on this newsgroup :P === I'll avoid the temptation to follow-up on that one... ;-) Mike -- "He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot." -Groucho Marx _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
Hi Shane, But how did you all qualify on the Geek Scale? How long did it take the FIRST one? Cheers, Him Again - Original Message - From: shane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma. > me and 5 friends. that makes several on this list alone already. > > I certainly did fail! That was the whole point of the commentary! I > > have not found since Redhat 5.1 a SINGLE SOUL who managed to instal a > > comprehensively working Linux system who was not a full-fledged Geek. > > (Actually it is only heresay even then - I personally have not seen one.) > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] qt libraries
zaphod beeblebrox wrote: > > (takes cloak of lurking off) > > howdy all... > gotta say.. have learned alot here, over the last several months being > a lurker ;-P digging back into the archives, or the infamouse RTFM ;*) > > but...(sigh) > > I have been trying rather unsuccessfully, to compile any programs that > require QT, I get the following: > > Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= 1.42 and < 2.0) (libraries) not found. > Please check your installation! > > and the configure log shows: > > configure:4563: checking for Qt > configure:4710: g++ -o conftest -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti > -fno-check-new -I/usr/lib/qt/include -I/usr/X11R6/include > -L/usr/lib/qt/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib > conftest.C -lqt -lXext -lX11 1>&5 > conftest.C:7:2: #error 1 > configure: failed program was: > #include "confdefs.h" > #include > #include > #include > #include > #if ! (QT_VERSION >= 142 && QT_VERSION < 200) > #error 1 > > but.. > > # rpm -qa | grep qt > libqtcups2-2.1-13mdk > qt-1.44-24mdk > libqtcups2-devel-2.1-13mdk > qtcups-2.1-13mdk > qt2-Xt-devel-2.3.1-14mdk > qt2-Xt-2.3.1-14mdk > libqt2-2.3.1-14mdk > libqt2-devel-2.3.1-14mdk > libqt2-static-devel-2.3.1-14mdk > > using m8.1, with all the security upgrades, and complier is 2.9.6 > (found a suggestion to use this instead of 3.0, didnt do squit) > > > __ > > today is tommorrow, is yesterday, but neither is niether. > > registered Linux user number 265953 > machine registration number 149598 > > > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Umm, your programs have source code for Qt no longer in use. In order to get them to compile, you will have to install OLD libraries. Try to get them from Mandtrake 7.1 which is still around on a few web sites, at least as iso's (ftp.proxad.net for example). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
Hi Michael, Then by definition they are ipso facto, NOT "real" Geeks. :-) NB: In the weird world of Computers, the hierachy is very strict. Techo's look down on the Marketeers, Programmers look down on both of them and REAL Designers don't even acknowledge the existence of any of the others except as nuisances on the long haul to PAI ( pure artificial intelligence). BTW: There is a sub-group called "Customer Support Staff" and nothing much is known about them.. they are REALLY strange and like the Big Bang Theory, the question is how the Support person became like that.. or were they that way inclined? Cheers, Him Again - Original Message - From: Michael Viron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma. > >4. Pro Geek. Makes an actual living as technician in the field. Highly paid > >for his (rarely her) work, if ANY good at all, due to general great lack of > >competence in the technical area. Always extremely busy. Extremely poor > >communicators. Need to simply be given the job to do. Never ask them > >questions. > > Not necessarily true -- there are some people who are making a living as a > "technician" or more generally, in information technology, and are quite > capable of communicating their ideas effectively in a way that "non-geeks" > can understand. > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
Monroe North Carolina, and Miami Fla. On Tuesday 12 March 2002 10:59, you wrote: > "shane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes... > > > Walnut Creek (bay area) California here > > > > and bar hoping would _not_ be a good idea. can see a bunch of rowdy > > linux geeks in one bar? ;-) > > LoL... ever hear of Pigdog? Being a Sanfranciscan and all. > > PV. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
*points to the OTHER Heather for DarcMatter's enlightenment* See!? I wasn't lying! She exists! Femme Heather Reed wrote: > > Greetings from Glastonbury, UK, home of King Arthur's tomb (well one of them > anyway :-)), merlin and the famous Glastonbury festival - beer is terrible > and weather always wet > Heather > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Winegarden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all > > > Hi Everyone, > > British Columbia Canada..just above 0 degrees C (32 degrees F) > > > > Home of hockey GOLD! > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
you know Jon, I do remember you, and I bet you do remember me too, but you had filtered out my remarks because I did not give you blanket approval to use my postings in your for your personal profit book. and in fact I suggested you should check into the legalities of coping this list as a book project. I even remember that since i was filtered, you never knew of the fixes for your problems, at least the ones I knew the answer to. Now Jon, here's good news. you can use my postings in the next book, and I do believe that a LOT of folks manage to get mandrake installed and running in a desktop word processor / network termanal and internet appliance with out a sweat. I would have to agree that someone ought to at least understand what different types of cards are in a computer before installing any OS, as a minimum. On Tuesday 12 March 2002 07:25, you wrote: > - Original Message - > From: Dimitris Ioannou > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:26 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma. > > > Maybe YOU should do 2 things Dimitris: > > 1. Re-read my note > > 2. Re-read your reply. > > --- > > I hope that this poisoned letter of yours comes only because you tried > very hard as a Linux newbie to install and get some things working (apps) > and obviously you didn't succeed in doing so. You will never make it, trust > me. Never, as long as you are carrying in your back and in your mind the M$ > philosophy of get things working. Obtain some, cathedral, as you name it > thinking and then,maybe , things will work out for you. > > P.S. Forgive me if I'm being too arogant but you managed to piss me off, > while I have a lot of work to discover new bugs in KDE 3.0 Beta 2! > > > > I did say: > > Now - don't shoot the messenger! > > I certainly did fail! That was the whole point of the commentary! I have > not found since Redhat 5.1 a SINGLE SOUL who managed to instal a > comprehensively working Linux system who was not a full-fledged Geek. > (Actually it is only heresay even then - I personally have not seen one.) > > Big Bill is the richest man on the planet. Mandrake is sadly facing > bankruptcy. One is logical the other is evangelical. > > Mandrake MUST fail if it persists in its "negative loop". It is insane > that a product is ever given away. The model has never, ever worked. Over a > trillion Dollars in lost investor funds has already shown this and we are > looking at more than that figure again. Most of which was Pension Funds, > Old People's and family savings entrusted to "Institutions". > > Mandrake's salvation is simple. Get some professional enterprise skills > in there. Get some people who know marketing. Start with logic: a product > given away not only has no value to the receiver, it is very expensive to > the donor. > > Mandrake is already a great Value-Adder. The minimum fee for the > geek-downloadable product needs to be $20 to contribute to the maintenance > - not make money - merely help offset costs. > > The Boxed product has made a great start - but who is marketing it, much > less who is buying it. > > Mandrake needs a Certified Installer program. It needs to spend all it > can out in the street supporting a grass-roots marketing strategy. One > based on a simple fix: > > Buy it Installed and guaranteed working for just $150..or > $250 > >I repeat: never could it have worked. The numbers - to any experienced > marketer never were there. The second best known product in the Linux > field, with rave reviews has even spent the money it got by floating. Even > Mandrake is not going to be a D.I.Y. product ever - just the same as > Windoze never was It needs to be fitted by a geek. Or a very > experienced PC User. > > BTW: NOBODY has so far claimed to have met the condition I enquired of - > a simple, one-go instal. > > MY case rests. sadly. > > But I'll be back. I am looking into Win4Lin, but the news so far isn't > good. WINE - couldn't even find my way around on the Site. much less > what it works with > > Maybe 8.1 will work.. or 8.2.. ( hope springs eternal) > > Cheers! > > Him Again Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
Hey Dimiti, No excuses. THAT is consorting with the enemy. unclean! unclean! :-) When I was a kid in a far off land and time, we were told that consorting with Protestants could endanger our Souls. ( We were Catholics the REAL Chosen Ones - it said so in the books) - Original Message - From: Dimitris Ioannou To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma. Ï/Ç "Rick [Kitty5]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ýãñáøå: On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 11:26, Dimitris Ioannou wrote:> > I hope that this poisoned letter of yours ...Well, you were the one who posted in HTML :)Yes, because , I'm at work now my friend (Windows based(, and couldn't resist answering the letter. Regards Dimitris
Re: [newbie] Do I need 2 NIC for connection sharing ?
Don't feel bad, I know guys whose names are Laurie and Beverly, but these guys are so tough now that you don't want to smirk in front of them ! Lanman Kinda reminds me of the boy named Sue ! - Original Message - From: "FemmeFatale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Do I need 2 NIC for connection sharing ? > As an aside to all of Hanan's questions & I don't know if I should be > the one saying so but... > > Hanan emailed me offlist, and it turns out "he" is a she as well. I > didn't know either & apologized for the mixup :) > > Femme > > Randy Kramer wrote: > > > > Hanan Shargi wrote: > > > SO Finally If I may rephrase the question here: How do I connect my small LAN > > > ( of 2 pc's ) to the bigger LAN ( the buildin's ) to make the smaller LAN see > > > the internet ?! > > > > Well, I'm glad to have helped a little bit. Not sure I can help more, > > but I think you got good suggestions from other people. I think you > > have three choices: > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] removing firewall
Theres a place in the Control Centre, under um "Sessions?" Or... services? Not sure... but it lists what loads on boot & Such, just hit the "STOP" Button in there for hte firewall Femme Stojs wrote: > > I installed mandrake 8.1 with the firewall and lots of other stuff. Now > I want to try my connection sharing with the firewall completely > disabled or uninstalled. How do I accomplish this? > > Thanks in advance, > Stojs > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
Hi Damien, WHOA! This isn't a fight! :-) It is simple research I'm glad for you! But, are you a geek or a user? ( See my suggested descriptors) What sort of system was it? Did you have the Holy Grail - a CDRW? - Original Message - From: Damian Gatabria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma. > > > BTW: NOBODY has so far claimed to have met the condition I enquired of - > > a simple, one-go instal. > > > ME !!! > > happy now? > don't believe me? i don't care. > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 01:16 pm, Michael T. Richards wrote: > Even though I'm only basically lurking and learning, I'm still here...:) > > Mike - Draper, UT, USA! > > Mike Richards Greetings all, I'm another lurker/learner... Curt Tresenriter Denver, Colorado (hello west slope!) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Do I need 2 NIC for connection sharing ?
As an aside to all of Hanan's questions & I don't know if I should be the one saying so but... Hanan emailed me offlist, and it turns out "he" is a she as well. I didn't know either & apologized for the mixup :) Femme Randy Kramer wrote: > > Hanan Shargi wrote: > > SO Finally If I may rephrase the question here: How do I connect my small LAN > > ( of 2 pc's ) to the bigger LAN ( the buildin's ) to make the smaller LAN see > > the internet ?! > > Well, I'm glad to have helped a little bit. Not sure I can help more, > but I think you got good suggestions from other people. I think you > have three choices: > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Answers to the Geek vs the rest dilemma.
Rick! You should know better than to mudsling! :) Then again Nevermind. I won't become a mother on this newsgroup :P Femme "Rick [Kitty5]" wrote: > > On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 11:26, Dimitris Ioannou wrote: > > > > I hope that this poisoned letter of yours ... > > Well, you were the one who posted in HTML :) > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake's financial situation
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 12:39, PENA FAMILY opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: > Still, though this is a bump in the road and don't see it > effecting Linux in the whole. a good many people who are paid by companies like redhat, mandrake, and suse, are paid to basically work for the "free" projects like KDE, gnome, xfree, the kernel, etc. who will they let go first, the ones working directly for the company, or the ones working for all OSS? it effects linux as a whole. -- "... the only people I fear, are those who never have doubts" -Billy Joel shane http://shentzu.home.mindspring.com/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org/ cause humans do it better! Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Any First Go success stories ?
so what you want is a stripped down, recompiled, runs on a 486, and you want it without working at it, with a modern gui install, and full hardware detection? no operating system ever created meets those specs. none. why not just wish for world peace? On Tuesday 12 March 2002 15:27, john rigby opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: > Hi Lee, > Thanks for your info, but you are a Power-User by the sound of the box > specs! :-) > I'm trying to determine if Linux - especially Mandrake is "true" to the > old idea of not needing a monster box to run. > I know of Linux Servers that are running on Steam-powered old things and > just don't fall over. > The sad thing is that I don't know anyone not at least a p/time geek who > has made it all go without enough research and effort for a PhD. > > And of course, you mentioned 8.2 - which isn't even "there" for us > chickens. Altho I noticed it got a couple of accolades on fixing earlier > problems in reviews. > -- Nimda virus affects Linux! My linux boxes have had their bandwidth chewed up by four thousand Nimda servers infected with IIS. shane http://shentzu.home.mindspring.com/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org/ cause humans do it better! Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] execute in shell?
There are 2 Heathers on this list. Me & another. I use FemmeFatale to avoid confusion :) Saves ppl from confusing us. This obviously didn't work in your case, Dark. Get with the program! :) Femme daRcmaTTeR wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 00:36:41 -0700 > FemmeFatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to > ponder: > > > *wonders if I should be offended or what?* > > > > OK so I'm good at something. Everyone has to have a talent! > > > > Heather is next in line I'm sure for this little title of "Install > > Expert". :) > > > > Femme > > > > Michael wrote: > > Then Femme AKA Heather > > > would be instructing you on reinstalling ;o) > > wait...I'm confused. just a little...(nothing new) but I thought that > Heather and FemmeFatale were the same person? > > -- > daRcmaTTeR > - > If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do > the first time! > > Registered Linux User 182496 > - > 7:05pm up 1 day, 13:28, 2 users, load average: 0.28, 1.14, 0.78 > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] programs running on wine
I'm glad someone sees our jokes as funny as opposed to bandwidth whoring ;) FF "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > > Paul_Vortex wrote: > > > > FemmeFatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote... > > > > > NP. Now help me fix my own probs! :) > > > > > > Femme > > > > HA!... If they *aren't* Linux related, then there might be a hope in hell I > > could help you out! > > > > :o) > > > > -PV. > > You guys r funny! > > I'd love to go bar-hopping with this crowd sometime! ;-) > > -- > >/\ >Dark>\/ > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ping and vmware
Dear All, I have LM8.1 with vmware2.04 running win95 as guest. I have the vmware-samba setup with host-only networking so that I can share the Linux files and directories in Network Neighborhood. That is working however I am having a time getting things to work on the Linux side so that I may access Windows files in LM8.1. I would like to use a gui such as komba2 or LinNeighborhood for this if possible. I do wonder if I have a firewall problem because I cannot successfully ping my Win95 IPaddress from Linux but I can ping from Win95 to Linux. I have read all that I can but I still cannot get it to work. I would like to use the Vmware-smb if possible. Thanks for the help. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OK New Dumb question on Small Linux
8.1 I believe, I couldn't get 8.0 I don't think Femme Eric Estes -=RCN Mail=- wrote: > > Which one 8 or 8.1? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FemmeFatale > Sent: March 11, 2002 11:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] OK New Dumb question on Small Linux > > I know I know, this is a LM8 list... tell me to shoo if i get annoying. > > Has anyone tried this distro? If so, can you email me offlist possibly? > > Femme > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Any First Go success stories ?
Hi Lee, Thanks for your info, but you are a Power-User by the sound of the box specs! :-) I'm trying to determine if Linux - especially Mandrake is "true" to the old idea of not needing a monster box to run. I know of Linux Servers that are running on Steam-powered old things and just don't fall over. The sad thing is that I don't know anyone not at least a p/time geek who has made it all go without enough research and effort for a PhD. And of course, you mentioned 8.2 - which isn't even "there" for us chickens. Altho I noticed it got a couple of accolades on fixing earlier problems in reviews. > > The 8513 Chipset? > > The "X" Motherboard? > > Onboard sound, video? > > MSI Boards? (Models?) > > Asus Bds? (Models?) > > > > Anyone got Win4lin going in one go? > > Anyone got WINE to run anything? FrontPage? > > > > Has it ever happened? > In a word.mostly > > 8.2 fired up everything nicely. > > > Soyo Dragon Plus > Radeon 7200 > AMD Athlon 1900 > > Only problem isn't a Linux problem and I've said it before. > > I will probably have a WinBox 'til the cows come home because, in my business > I have to communicate with people in their own (wordprocesser) language. > When I get a letter in Word, I have to respond in Word to avoid obvious > problems with recipients. WordPerfect in WordPerfect, etc. > > Frankly, I don't see where that is a problem. Linux is a tool, not a > religion. It is doing faithfully everything that I expect, and did so right > out of the ISO. > > Would that the rest of life were so simple. > > Every once in a while, I stumble around in the dark and either install a > program or crash the computer, just for sport. Crashes and other > self-inflicted wounds are becoming less frequent as Mandrake and I both > evolve. > > More fun than a bowl of pollywogs. > > > Lee > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kde menu
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 21:15 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote: > ..does anybody know if that tool for editing the k menu you open in > K ---> configure panel ---> menu editor > > is updated upon startup? i installed a program that added links in > my menu i don need, and that app doesn show them.. do i have to > restart kde? or maybe i'm looking in the wrong place? > > thanks. > > Damian Did you remember to save the changes before you closed the menu editor, if so the changes should show up at once, they do for me. HTH Regards Pete Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
Hi, from Ardnamurchan, the most westerly point on the UK mainland (probably the wettest as well) Regards Pete Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
Gee Jeff; Can't you be more accurate than that?? Looks like you left out the seconds in your time there, and a latitude and longitude would have been nice ! Grin! Grin! Lanman - Original Message - From: "jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all > jeff > > worcester MA, USA > > currently experimenting with: > > mandrake > debian > freebsd > > it's all good... > > Worcester, Worcester Regional Airport, MA, United States > (KORH) 42-16-14N 071-52-23W 304M > Mar 12, 2002 - 01:54 PM EST / 2002.03.12 1854 UTC > Wind: from the SW (230 degrees) at 17 MPH (15 KT):0 > Visibility: 10 mile(s):0 > Sky conditions: overcast > Weather: light rain > Precipitation last hour: A trace > Temperature: 37.9 F (3.3 C) > Dew Point: 32.0 F (0.0 C) > Relative Humidity: 78% > Pressure (altimeter): 30.14 in. Hg (1020 hPa) > ob: KORH 121854Z 23015KT 10SM -RA BKN018 OVC027 03/00 A3014 > RMK AO2 RAB37 SLP219 P T0033 > cycle: 19 > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
Greetings from Glastonbury, UK, home of King Arthur's tomb (well one of them anyway :-)), merlin and the famous Glastonbury festival - beer is terrible and weather always wet Heather - Original Message - From: "Bill Winegarden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all > Hi Everyone, > British Columbia Canada..just above 0 degrees C (32 degrees F) > > Home of hockey GOLD! > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Chat (OT)
We are getting a lot of informal chat type email -(holds hand up and says "guilty") so i just want to point out one IRC channel that we could use. irc.chatjunkies.org#Mandrake It is going 24/7 and hardly used at all. My X-Chat took me almost straight there. Michael -- It looks like blind screaming hedonism won out. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
