Re: [newbie] New hard-drives, now what? :)

2002-04-11 Thread Charlie

Sridhar Dhanapalan's message on April 11, 2002 10:17 pm, stated:
 
13GB is probably a bit over the top for 'system' (non-user data) purposes.
 If you like, you can probably make another 'data' partition on the 13GB
 drive, taking some space from the other partitions. 500MB is way too big for
 /boot; 50MB is probably more than you'll ever need. I would probably give
 1GB to /var, 5GB to /usr, 1GB to /tmp, 1GB to / (unless you plan on
 installing many things to /opt, in which case you should allocate more), and
 the rest to 'data'. Of course, it all depends on how you use your system.

 You may also want to look into LVM. LVM can treat both drives as one unit,
 and it allows you to change partition sizes non-destructively. Diskdrake can
 handle LVM creation.

LVM? Is that a "virtual machine?" Sort of software RAID without fake RAID on 
"hardware" like the cards that are too  expensive? 

 I'll go Google-ing and read what I can find about that. 

So for the two 60 GB hard drives (the one already in the box and the one that 
I'm picking up today) I only really need about 8 GB?
 
Fine; but what the _h_e_ double hockey sticks do I do with the other 112 GB? 
;-)

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll be doing a lot of reading before I 
re-install the system I do believe.

C.
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Re: [newbie] way to pin windows to dekstop in gnome?

2002-04-11 Thread Paul Rodríguez

Thank you, Sridhar.  That sounds very interesting.  I shall have to look
into that.

- Paul Rodríguez


On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 23:49, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> On 11 Apr 2002 17:59:23 -0400, Paul Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there a way, or a window manger/window manager theme that would let
> > me pin a window to the dekstop (i.e. keep it always on top) in a
> > convenient way?
> 
> That's depends on what window manager you use. Sawfish (GNOME's default WM) has
> a concept of 'stacking layers'. This goes beyond the Windows-like 'always on
> top' idea by providing multiple layers (not just two) upon which to stack
> windows. To change the stacking layer, bring up the WM menu for a window and
> select "Stacking". From there you can raise or lower the stacking level of that
> window. For greater ease-of-use, you can specify a key binding for the stacking
> functions (and any other Sawfish function) in the Sawfish configuration menus.
> 
> -- 
> Sridhar Dhanapalan
> 
>  "The linux philosophy is laugh in the face of danger. Oops. Wrong one.
> 'Do it yourself.' That's it." -- Linus Torvalds
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] How to for FTP server

2002-04-11 Thread Jay



Are you using a firewall? Make sure the ftp port is open (port 21), or for
passive ftp (port 20). It is safer to use passive mode.

-Jay






Quoting Duke Glover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hello Mandrake gods,
>
> I have tried, tried, and tried some more and have so far been unsuccessful
> at getting an FTP server up and running.  I've read the how-to's (most make
> no since) and have tried enough different configurations that they could
> fill two pages of typing.
>
> I am running Mandrake 7.1 on an X86.  The box is on my LAN so network
> connectivity is not an issue.  I simply cannot get FTP to work.  Does
> anyone
> have a step-by-step how to for morons such as myself that explains how to
> setup an FTP server.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Duke
>
>
>




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Re: [newbie] New hard-drives, now what? :)

2002-04-11 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 12:37:30 -0600, Charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all;
> 
> A situation has developed here in 'Garlic City' that requires me to replace 
> my old Maxtor 13 GB hard drive (primary master) with something slightly 
> larger. As in a 40 GB, or (another) 60 GB. It has to do with a friend's old 
> P200 machine and a little 11 year old that wants a "computer to  use like 
> daddy's" but the old one has a dead drive. The specs are such that the BIOS 
> can't be forced to use anything larger than 8 GB. What does that have to do 
> with my 13 GB you ask? I'm swapping it to hisaunt for her 6.4 GB and using 
> that on the P200. Then I'll be able to sucker her into trying Mandrake 8.2. 
> She's been "afeered of that thang!" until now but she can live with the dual 
> boot she'll end up with.
> 
> Anyway, back to the question: I'll be re-installing Mandrake on my own box. 
> The partitions as it stands now on the two drives are:
> my old 13 GB Maxtor : boot (500 MB; probably WAY too much), 
> / (roughly 5 GB), 
> /usr (about 5.5 GB), 
> /var at about 1.5 GB.
> my new 60 GB:
> /home 35 GB,
> /data store 25 GB.
> 
> I don't like this for some reason. It doesn't seem 'elegant.' Anyone have a 
> suggestion regarding partition layout and sizes? I'll most likely go for 
> another 60 GB Maxtor since there's only about CDN$18 price difference. That's 
> only US$11.33 at the spot exchange right now for my friends south of the 
> border.

13GB is probably a bit over the top for 'system' (non-user data) purposes. If
you like, you can probably make another 'data' partition on the 13GB drive,
taking some space from the other partitions. 500MB is way too big for /boot;
50MB is probably more than you'll ever need. I would probably give 1GB to /var,
5GB to /usr, 1GB to /tmp, 1GB to / (unless you plan on installing many things to
/opt, in which case you should allocate more), and the rest to 'data'. Of
course, it all depends on how you use your system.

You may also want to look into LVM. LVM can treat both drives as one unit, and
it allows you to change partition sizes non-destructively. Diskdrake can handle
LVM creation.

-- 
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marketplace (as opposed to niches) has ever gone through those nice lifecycles
they tell you about in CompSci classes. Have you _ever_ heard of a project that
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Re: [newbie] How to for FTP server

2002-04-11 Thread Jay


Are you using a firewall? Make sure the ftp port is open (port 21), or for
passive ftp (port 20). It is safer to use passive mode.

-Jay






Quoting Duke Glover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hello Mandrake gods,
>
> I have tried, tried, and tried some more and have so far been unsuccessful
> at getting an FTP server up and running.  I've read the how-to's (most make
> no since) and have tried enough different configurations that they could
> fill two pages of typing.
>
> I am running Mandrake 7.1 on an X86.  The box is on my LAN so network
> connectivity is not an issue.  I simply cannot get FTP to work.  Does
> anyone
> have a step-by-step how to for morons such as myself that explains how to
> setup an FTP server.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Duke
>
>
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Re: [newbie] way to pin windows to dekstop in gnome?

2002-04-11 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On 11 Apr 2002 17:59:23 -0400, Paul Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a way, or a window manger/window manager theme that would let
> me pin a window to the dekstop (i.e. keep it always on top) in a
> convenient way?

That's depends on what window manager you use. Sawfish (GNOME's default WM) has
a concept of 'stacking layers'. This goes beyond the Windows-like 'always on
top' idea by providing multiple layers (not just two) upon which to stack
windows. To change the stacking layer, bring up the WM menu for a window and
select "Stacking". From there you can raise or lower the stacking level of that
window. For greater ease-of-use, you can specify a key binding for the stacking
functions (and any other Sawfish function) in the Sawfish configuration menus.

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Re: [newbie] Soundcard Q somewhat OT, was:NVIDIA RPMS

2002-04-11 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 21:52, FemmeFatale wrote:
> Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> 
> > From what I've heard, somebody really needs to update and streamline the
> > Aureal soundcard drivers at Sourceforge.  I hope it happens soon, cause
> > I don't want to get another soundcard, this one is great.
> > 
> > HTH,
> > 
> > LX
> > 
> 
> IIRC aureal as a company is dead isn't it? Just curious...b/c I know
> some ppl who wouldn't mind a pro card like it.
> 
> Femme

Yes, they are.  They marketed a new sound technology that Creative Labs
whined and moaned about, saying it couldn't be done.  Then Aureal
released their chipset, and it was so hot that John Carmack at id
software put the A3d feature directly into Quake3.

Then Creative Labs sued Aureal, and since they were still a startup,
they couldn't afford the court costs.  To add insult to injury, Creative
Labs bought the remnants of the company and integrated "the technology
that couldn't be done" into their own cards.

So since Creative Labs couldn't compete technically with Aureal, they
used some lawyers to run Aureal out of business; a la Microsoft.

The upside to all this is that I think there are some sound chipsets out
there  such as the Cmedia 8738 (which is on the Chaintech CT-7VJDA
Athlon mobo) that have several 3D audio standards built in, such as A3D
1.0, and EAX 1.0/2.0.  The new turtle beach Santa Cruz has those also,
plus IA3D, MacroFX, MultiDrive, and Virtual Ear.

If I'm forced to get another sound card, it will never be a Creative
Labs, and the one I do get will have Linux drivers available and up to
date before I invest.

L8R !

LX

P.S. -- I've been super happy with this card.
 

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Re: [newbie] I am at a loss as to what the disks are for

2002-04-11 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

Disc 1 will give you a basic system with X and IceWM. To use KDE and GNOME you
need Discs 2 and 3.

On 11 Apr 2002 16:03:36 -0600, Warren Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Linux Mandrake's disks contain not only the OS but loads of
> applications, too. Imagine Microsoft giving away Office XP Pro, Visual
> Studio, etc., for free and bundled with the XP installation disks. 
> 
> CD 1 contains the core functionality of the OS and the most used
> applications. CDs 2 and 3 contain additional apps. I'm surprised that
> the installer didn't prompt you for disks 2 and 3. That it didn't
> suggests that you have few or no apps to play with. 
> 
> Welcome to Mandrake, Mike! Hope you like it as much as I do. 
> 
> Warren 
> Windows 2000 sysadmin by force 
> Linux Mandrake junkie by choice 
> 
> On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 07:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> > My friend gave me a copy of Mandrake Linux 8.1.  He gave me 3 disks, and
> > didn't tell me what they are used for. When asked he didn't know said he
> > never used them.  I installed the OS from disk 1.  What I would like to know
> > is what the other 2 disks are for.

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compelling reason to. "Feel free to try" is definitely the open source motto." 
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Re: [newbie] Community

2002-04-11 Thread shane

On Thursday 11 April 2002 21:40, John Lynch opened a general hailing 
frequency and transmitted to all open stations:

> LOL, thankyou ;-)
>
> msn is dead easy, I wipped it up in an hour, I'm lazy I know.

clearly if the same thing was done on the expert list it would be a php nuke 
site on someones home box.  ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Community

2002-04-11 Thread Joel Esler

I know!  On MSN?  Isn't that like, voting for the enemy?  Or is it using 
their weapons against themselves???

Hmm..

Joel




On Friday 12 April 2002 12:13 am, you wrote:
> El Jue 11 Abr 2002 04:04, John Lynch escribió:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Before I say anything, I just want to say I don't want to start any old
> > arguments.
> >
> > Well, a while ago some people were saying that only problems to do with
> > Mandrake should be posted in here, while a few others wanted to be able
> > to talk about all sorts of other things.
> >
> > So the other day (well a week ago) I saw someone post up an article and
> > someone complained that they couldn't cause of their download.
> >
> > Well I thought of an idea to allow people to share articles and their
> > opinions, ask for help about programs and hardware, socialise AND provide
> > an easier way to create the archives.
> >
> > I made a community that is made up of message boards so you can only go
> > to the message boards you want too.
> >
> > It's a very simple design so it's easy on the download rate too.
> >
> > the link is
> >
> > http://communities.ninemsn.com.au/MandrakeCave/_whatsnew.msnw
> >
> > If you don't like it, don't join.
> > Simple as that, you can even have every post that is posted up sent to
> > your e-mail if you want too.
> >
> > It was JUST an idea
> >
> > John
>
> it's looking fine, John but.. on MSN??
>
> just j/k

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Re: [newbie] Community

2002-04-11 Thread John Lynch

LOL, thankyou ;-)

msn is dead easy, I wipped it up in an hour, I'm lazy I know.

It'll ONLY work if a lot of people join though.

John


>From: Damian G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [newbie] Community
>Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 01:13:51 -0300
>
>El Jue 11 Abr 2002 04:04, John Lynch escribió:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Before I say anything, I just want to say I don't want to start any old
> > arguments.
> >
> > Well, a while ago some people were saying that only problems to do with
> > Mandrake should be posted in here, while a few others wanted to be able 
>to
> > talk about all sorts of other things.
> >
> > So the other day (well a week ago) I saw someone post up an article and
> > someone complained that they couldn't cause of their download.
> >
> > Well I thought of an idea to allow people to share articles and their
> > opinions, ask for help about programs and hardware, socialise AND 
>provide
> > an easier way to create the archives.
> >
> > I made a community that is made up of message boards so you can only go 
>to
> > the message boards you want too.
> >
> > It's a very simple design so it's easy on the download rate too.
> >
> > the link is
> >
> > http://communities.ninemsn.com.au/MandrakeCave/_whatsnew.msnw
> >
> > If you don't like it, don't join.
> > Simple as that, you can even have every post that is posted up sent to 
>your
> > e-mail if you want too.
> >
> > It was JUST an idea
> >
> > John
>
>it's looking fine, John but.. on MSN??
>
>just j/k
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: [newbie] Community

2002-04-11 Thread Damian G

El Jue 11 Abr 2002 04:04, John Lynch escribió:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Before I say anything, I just want to say I don't want to start any old
> arguments.
>
> Well, a while ago some people were saying that only problems to do with
> Mandrake should be posted in here, while a few others wanted to be able to
> talk about all sorts of other things.
>
> So the other day (well a week ago) I saw someone post up an article and
> someone complained that they couldn't cause of their download.
>
> Well I thought of an idea to allow people to share articles and their
> opinions, ask for help about programs and hardware, socialise AND provide
> an easier way to create the archives.
>
> I made a community that is made up of message boards so you can only go to
> the message boards you want too.
>
> It's a very simple design so it's easy on the download rate too.
>
> the link is
>
> http://communities.ninemsn.com.au/MandrakeCave/_whatsnew.msnw
>
> If you don't like it, don't join.
> Simple as that, you can even have every post that is posted up sent to your
> e-mail if you want too.
>
> It was JUST an idea
>
> John

it's looking fine, John but.. on MSN?? 

just j/k


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Re: [newbie] What file do I change?

2002-04-11 Thread Michael Viron

either /etc/bashrc, /etc/profile, or /etc/motd.

Michael
At 08:10 AM 4/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Running MD 8.2 here.
>
>What file would the the root user modify if he wanted the change to 
>be seen by users when they logged in?  For example if you wanted them
>to see a Fortune Cookie message.
>
>Thanks
>
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Re: [newbie] way to pin windows to dekstop in gnome?

2002-04-11 Thread Seedkum Aladeem


Right clik on the top window frame (bar) and select "always on top".


On Thursday 11 April 2002 02:59 pm, you wrote:
> Is there a way, or a window manger/window manager theme that would let
> me pin a window to the dekstop (i.e. keep it always on top) in a
> convenient way?
>
> - Paul Rodriguez
>
>
>
>
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Re: [newbie] non PnP ISA modem

2002-04-11 Thread Joel Esler

I assume you know as well, but you need to make sure you are logged in as 
root, before you run setserial...  if not, find the command on your system 
using the "find / -name setserial*" command

my .02
J


On Thursday 11 April 2002 10:56 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> On Thursday 11 April 2002 04:59 pm, C.J.Kent wrote:
> > I have an internal non-PnP ISA modem that is working fine under windows
> > and was working fine under Red Hat 6.1. I've replaced Red Hat with
> > Mandrake 8.2 and cannot get the modem to work. The system is unable to
> > detect the modem and when I tell it that it's /dev/ttyS2 it can't find
> > anything. I suspect the problem is an incorrect IRQ. I've looked at
> > /proc//serial and it looks like ttyS2 is set to IRQ4
> > when the modem is on IRQ5. Everything I've found on the web says to use
> > setserial to set the correct parameters for the serial ports. But
> > setserial isn't there on my system. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> CJ:
> Are you sure about ttyS2? That corresponds to COM3: (port 0x3e8 and IRQ4).
> While there is nothing wrong with that, it strikes me as being a wee bit
> unconventional. Back in simpler times when 486's under DOS 3.2 reigned
> supreme, modems were usually set to COM2: ==> ttyS1 (port 0x2fe and IRQ3);
> AFAIK, this is still the usual way to go, but perhaps you have your
> reasons. -- cmg

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Re: [newbie] non PnP ISA modem

2002-04-11 Thread Carroll Grigsby

On Thursday 11 April 2002 04:59 pm, C.J.Kent wrote:
> I have an internal non-PnP ISA modem that is working fine under windows
> and was working fine under Red Hat 6.1. I've replaced Red Hat with
> Mandrake 8.2 and cannot get the modem to work. The system is unable to
> detect the modem and when I tell it that it's /dev/ttyS2 it can't find
> anything. I suspect the problem is an incorrect IRQ. I've looked at
> /proc//serial and it looks like ttyS2 is set to IRQ4
> when the modem is on IRQ5. Everything I've found on the web says to use
> setserial to set the correct parameters for the serial ports. But
> setserial isn't there on my system. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks

CJ:
Are you sure about ttyS2? That corresponds to COM3: (port 0x3e8 and IRQ4). 
While there is nothing wrong with that, it strikes me as being a wee bit 
unconventional. Back in simpler times when 486's under DOS 3.2 reigned 
supreme, modems were usually set to COM2: ==> ttyS1 (port 0x2fe and IRQ3); 
AFAIK, this is still the usual way to go, but perhaps you have your reasons.
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[newbie] Kernel upgrade

2002-04-11 Thread ai4a

Hi Danny Luker,
Ref:My Last post about mrproper or distclean

Either of these commands will delete your .config file in usr/src/linux
directory. No big deal, you can copy it from /boot. If you have not
deleted the file yet, cp .config .Config (note the cap 'C'). Now the
.Config file will not be deleted and you can cp .Config .config after
the mrproper or distclean command.
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Re: [newbie] Re: Can FreeCell be Moved?

2002-04-11 Thread Bob Read


Michael, Thank you!
It was a bit more complex than that, but your clue led me to the solution.
Again -- Thank You.
Bob
 
 
Michael wrote:
Surely the freecell scores is just a saved file somewhere
in your /home
directory? Hang on...
Yeah. Try looking in ~/.gnome/ for "freecell". Thats where mine is.
Copy it to a floppy then back to your new system.
Hope thats what you wanted.
Michael
Bob Read wrote:
>
> Thanks  Gary,
>
> Problem is that I want to  move it to a new  instalation 
on a new  drive.
>
> Bob
>
> Gary Montalbine wrote:
>
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > I upgraded to  8.2 from 8.1 without losing the score in Free
Cell.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >   
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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

2002-04-11 Thread ai4a

Danny Luker wrote:
> 
> Hi Charles and thanks for your reply
> 
> On Thursday 11 April 2002 04:22 pm, you wrote:
> > K Montgomery wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 22:24, Danny Luker wrote:
> > > > My first post to this list!
> > > >
> > > > I'm running Mandrake 8.1 with rieserfs on a 256MB  AMD K6 clocking 350
> > > > MHz (older machine) and all is well.   I just purchased a Sharp Zaurus
> > > > SL5500 and much to my disappointment it does not talk to my Linux box.
> > > > I have spent all day trying to upgrade to the 2.4.18 kernel so I can
> > > > use the usbdnet patch to make things right with my Zaurus.  No joy
> > > > however.  I followed the README that came with the 2.4.18 source
> > > > download.
> >
> > DO you not need a 'make mrproper or make distclean' defore 'make
> > xconfig'??
> > Charles
> 
> I don't know if I do or not.  This was not mentioned in the README or the
> HOWTO's I'm working from.  I don't know what these commands do.   Is this
> Mandrake specific or just one of those things that differenciates a newbie
> like me from real Linux gurus?  ;)
> 
> Do I need to do that... I'll try it and see what happens.
> 
> Thanks
> Danny
> 
> >
> 
>   
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Danny I am no guru!! But if you do a google search on compiling the
kernel you will find lots of info on the subject. They (maybe) all say
do a 'make mrproper'. One article says use 'make distclean'. That
article said distclean deletes one more file than mrproper. I have no
idea what that file does. Either command works for me. After a new
kernel compile the new kernel will not work for me if I do not do either
mrproper or distclean!!!
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Re: [newbie] Soundcard Q somewhat OT, was:NVIDIA RPMS

2002-04-11 Thread FemmeFatale

Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

> From what I've heard, somebody really needs to update and streamline the
> Aureal soundcard drivers at Sourceforge.  I hope it happens soon, cause
> I don't want to get another soundcard, this one is great.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> LX
> 

IIRC aureal as a company is dead isn't it? Just curious...b/c I know
some ppl who wouldn't mind a pro card like it.

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[newbie] Good News and BAD News - '/home' less

2002-04-11 Thread Terry Smith

Short ver.: Any way to recover a deleted directory on a ext3 partition?

Details: Although I've remained subscribed to this list, over the last 6
weeks I've been running a RH 7.2 distro off of my hdb drive. BOO!

Last night, after downloading the new Mandrake 8.2 and burning 3 cds I
installed 8.2 on my hda (sharing with windows). As customary I did a
'clean install' but didn't reformat my /home directory (on hda).

Installation went perfect, everything's configured, the new CUPS not
only recognized my printer (HP Officejet) but recognized and installed
software for the built-in scanner. YAY!

But all my personal files, emails, downloads, tarballs, rpms and other
goodies I've picked up over the last month are over on the hdb /home
directory. 

I had backed up the /etc directory on hda (the old drive with Mandrake
8.1) but didn't backup /home on hdb as I didn't have any intention of
overwriting it, moving it, etc. BAD!

So now happily playing with my new 8.2 I figure I better access all my
/home files on hdb. I modify /etc/fstab to pick up the hdb2 partition
but name it 'rh_one'. I mkdir 'rh_one', do the mount and everything's
there. YAY!

Now things go downhill. I decide I want to rename the dir 'rh_one' to
'rh_home' so I use the mv command. It apparently copies everything from
rh_one to rh_home. I check 'rh_home'. Everything looks OK. I do a 'rmdir
rh_one'. BOO! All the files that were on hdb /home are gone!

I guess if someone could tell me where I went wrong I'd appreciate it.
But the real question is "Can I recover the directory"? I was using the
ext3 journaling filesystem so I would think that there is some
possibility, but frankly don't have a clue on how to proceed.

I've got a backup that's a couple of weeks old and there's nothing
hugely important but it would sure be nice to have those files back.

Can it be done?

TIA.

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[newbie] test

2002-04-11 Thread Carlos Arigós


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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

2002-04-11 Thread Danny Luker

Hi Charles and thanks for your reply

On Thursday 11 April 2002 04:22 pm, you wrote:
> K Montgomery wrote:
> > On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 22:24, Danny Luker wrote:
> > > My first post to this list!
> > >
> > > I'm running Mandrake 8.1 with rieserfs on a 256MB  AMD K6 clocking 350
> > > MHz (older machine) and all is well.   I just purchased a Sharp Zaurus
> > > SL5500 and much to my disappointment it does not talk to my Linux box. 
> > > I have spent all day trying to upgrade to the 2.4.18 kernel so I can
> > > use the usbdnet patch to make things right with my Zaurus.  No joy
> > > however.  I followed the README that came with the 2.4.18 source
> > > download.
>
> DO you not need a 'make mrproper or make distclean' defore 'make
> xconfig'??
> Charles

I don't know if I do or not.  This was not mentioned in the README or the 
HOWTO's I'm working from.  I don't know what these commands do.   Is this 
Mandrake specific or just one of those things that differenciates a newbie 
like me from real Linux gurus?  ;)

Do I need to do that... I'll try it and see what happens.

Thanks 
Danny 


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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

2002-04-11 Thread Danny Luker

Hi Kathy,  

Thanks for your reply ...

On Thursday 11 April 2002 03:18 pm, you wrote:
> Did you indeed install the source in your home directory, as this line
> implies?
>
> > cp ~/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot
>
> If you installed the source from an RPM, I think the default location is
> /usr/src, which is why I ask.  I also ask:
>

Yes, I installed the source in my home dir (not my first choice) because that 
is what the README that came with the source suggested.  

> Did you get any fatal errors during the kernel compile? (You probably
> would have noticed ;D)

No errors at all.  Compile went very smooth.

> What's in your /etc/lilo.conf?
Listed below ... lable=2.4.18 is the new one .

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda2
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=" devfs=mount"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda2
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=" devfs=mount failsafe"
read-only
image=/boot/bzImage
label=2.4.18
root=/dev/hda2
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=" devfs=mount"
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=windows
table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe

> What does "ls -l /boot/bzImage" say?
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1209248 Apr 10 17:09 /boot/bzImage

hmm ... does this need to be -rwxrwxrwx?  The Mandrake kernel 2.4.8 has the 
same chmod as my kernel but is actually called through a sym link with  
-rwxrwxrwx.  

Any ideas?
Thanks!
Danny
>
> - Kathy
>
> On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 22:24, Danny Luker wrote:
> > My first post to this list!
> >
> > I'm running Mandrake 8.1 with rieserfs on a 256MB  AMD K6 clocking 350
> > MHz (older machine) and all is well.   I just purchased a Sharp Zaurus
> > SL5500 and much to my disappointment it does not talk to my Linux box.  I
> > have spent all day trying to upgrade to the 2.4.18 kernel so I can use
> > the usbdnet patch to make things right with my Zaurus.  No joy however. 
> > I followed the README that came with the 2.4.18 source download.
> >
> > After
> > make xconfig
> > make dep
> > make clean
> > make bzImage
> > make modules
> > make modules_install
> > cp ~/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot
> > editing lilo.config to point to new bzImage with lable "2.4.18" (keeping
> > old kernel available)
> > lilo
> > reboot
> >
> > then selecting my new kernel from lilo menu system flashes:
> >  Loading 2.4.18 .
> > Then it reboots ... and I grit my teeth and wonder why.
> >
> > What am I doing wrong .. any common newbie (like me) issues and
> > Gotch-ya's?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Danny Luker



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Re: [newbie] How to for FTP server

2002-04-11 Thread shane

On Thursday 11 April 2002 17:57, Duke Glover opened a general hailing 
frequency and transmitted to all open stations:

> Hello Mandrake gods,
>
> I have tried, tried, and tried some more and have so far been
> unsuccessful at getting an FTP server up and running.  I've read the
> how-to's (most make no since) and have tried enough different
> configurations that they could fill two pages of typing.

not sure how useful it is for version 7.1, didn't do any ftp back then 
myself, but did your how to reading include

http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/index.html#awp

it made enough sense that i was able to do it.  that is saying something

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[newbie] transparent users

2002-04-11 Thread Paul Rodríguez

Is there a way to see what commands a remote user is running on my
system?

- Paul Rodriguez



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Re: [newbie] Reiser Question

2002-04-11 Thread FemmeFatale

shane wrote:
> 
> On Thursday 11 April 2002 11:56, Jussi Aalto opened a general hailing
> frequency and transmitted to all open stations:
> 
> > I have experienced a couple of TOTAL lockups too and survived them even
> > though had to do master reset. I waited for a while before resetting
> > hoping that the system wasn't too busy so it could write some of the
> > buffers back to disk (if it makes any difference, I'm not sure, someone
> > correct me if I'm wrong).
> 
> did you try the "last resort"
> 
> "Alt" + "SysRq" + "r"
> "Alt" + "SysRq" + "s"
> "Alt" + "SysRq" + "e"
> "Alt" + "SysRq" + "i"
> "Alt" + "SysRq" + "u"
> "Alt" + "SysRq" + "b"
> 
> before rebooting?  that saved me once when i locked as after the first
> command the x restart worked, everything clear.  a second freeze on another
> machine this seemed to help, but i am not certain.  there was no data lost
> anyway.
> 
> so you know:
> 
> "Alt" + "SysRq" + "r" puts the keyboard in 'raw' mode. Sometimes after only
> this command you can try to kill the X server and all is well, if not,
> press on.
> 
> "Alt" + "SysRq" + "s" attempts to write all unsaved data to disk ('sync' the
> disk) to prevent file corruption.
> 
> "Alt" + "SysRq" + "e" sends a termination signal to all processes, that is
> the same as killing every program running.
> 
> "Alt" + "SysRq" + "i" sends a kill signal to all processes. If any processes
> are still running after the last key command this will clean the up.
> 
> "Alt" + "SysRq" + "u" remounts all systems in read-only mode. This is to
> prevent file system corruption.
> 
> "Alt" + "SysRq" + "b" reboots the system.
> 
> or at least that is what i am told.
> 
> --
> "... and if you drown, die knowing you were headed for the shore." -from
> farenheight 451
> 
> shane

wow... shane, i'm duly impressed with your knowledge today ;p

I think linux is the only OS I know of to use that stupid key!  AFAIK,
IBM made it, and it never got used!  It became a useless Key! ;p

THX!

I will try it and let you know the results.  I'm seriously tempted to
load a ext3 on a diff partition on the same drive.  Just run it & hit
the reset button for kicks, see what happens. ;p

Mucho Gracias ;p
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Re: [newbie] Reiser Question

2002-04-11 Thread FemmeFatale

civileme wrote:
> 
> Now on Reiser, use the rescue CD to boot, modprobe the reiser stuff then try

what do you mean by "modprobe the reiser stuff"??? Can someone enlighten
me here?

> reiserfsck
> ...
> reiserfsck --rebuild-tree
> 
> To do a complete fix if journal playback doesn't do it.
> 
> 
> So
> 
> ext2--solid
> ext3-semi-solid
> XFS-improved, need more evidence
> JFS-looking awfully good, but needs defrag and needs more experience
> Reiser-A very complex system, at least one level of abstraction and code
> above the others, and will be great if ever it works fully.
> 
> ALL--An unexpected down can wreak havoc on a disk or on a filesystem.
> 
> ALL-- When things look bad, try alt-sysrq-s alt-sysrq-a alt-sysrq-b to
> flush the buffers before reaching for a reset switch...  If it doesn't
> work, you have lost no more than you would lose, and it if does work,
> you will minimize your losses.
> 
> ALL--Data not backed up is data lost.  End of story.
> 
> Civileme
> 

Well to be honest I didn't know how to back up mail.  Tim Holmes *bless
his kind soul* helped me create a Cron script to do so...for future. 
Its the only thing I do keep on there I want!;p

Thx Civilme.  Useful info as usual.  And as an aside, I liked reiser for
its speed.  Ext2 seems turtlish in comparison.  Haven't tried it in
8.2.  Is it diff/faster now?

Thx 
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[newbie] NVIDIA RPMS - newbie experience

2002-04-11 Thread Andrew Olear



I just had a run in with the nvidia driver 
installation last night on mandrake 8.2  Although I thought I was following 
the directions right I wasn't. I was in X and I shouldn't have been when doing 
the compile. When I booted to the console only logon as root and did my 
thang' it worked fine after all the steps were completed. Although I 
will have to say when I try and run quake3 as a user right from the KDE 
desktop file manager it just messes up my resolution to a "magnified" 
appearance. I run it as root from the console it'll be open quake3 properly but 
then it 
can't open  /dev/dsp ...  my sound 
card is an aureal vortex 2 i installed the drivers vis cvs and tested the 
configuration through harddrake.  Why doesn't the installation of drivers 
for any particular hardware work unilateraly from user to user on the same 
system. If I have to install it as root and only root then wouldn't you think it 
should apply for that computer system regardless of whomever is to log on? 



[newbie] non PnP ISA modem

2002-04-11 Thread C.J.Kent

I have an internal non-PnP ISA modem that is working fine under windows 
and was working fine under Red Hat 6.1. I've replaced Red Hat with 
Mandrake 8.2 and cannot get the modem to work. The system is unable to 
detect the modem and when I tell it that it's /dev/ttyS2 it can't find 
anything. I suspect the problem is an incorrect IRQ. I've looked at 
/proc//serial and it looks like ttyS2 is set to IRQ4 
when the modem is on IRQ5. Everything I've found on the web says to use 
setserial to set the correct parameters for the serial ports. But 
setserial isn't there on my system. Any suggestions?

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Re: OT: Games working with TransGaming (was Re: [newbie] officiallym s free)

2002-04-11 Thread Paul Rodríguez

You don't need wineX to play Return to Castle Wolfenstein.  Idsoftware
(the company that makes the game) has released Linux binaries.  The
binary is an installer based on Loki's open source installer. 
(http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/wolf/) With a copy of the Windows
version of the cd, you can play it on Linux.  You need a 3d card and the
Linux binaries from: 
http://www.3dgamers.com/games/returnwolfenstein/

You need to extract some files from the cd by running the windows
installation.  This can be done from within Windows, or from within
Linux using Wine.  TuxGaming.com offers the cd for sale with an
accompanying cd which contains these files, which makes running the
windows installation unnecessary.

- Paul Rodriguez


On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 15:26, shane wrote:
> On Thursday 11 April 2002 10:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] opened a 
> general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations:
> 
> > >>> but TransGaming tends not to work well >>> with brand new games.
> >
> > Will games like Medal of Honor, Return to Castle Wolfenstein work on
> > TransGaming???
> 
> well the site gives wolf:
> 
> Rating (how well it works in WineX): 4 out of 5
> 
> Single player works near perfectly except for minor sound sync problems. 
> Multiplayer also runs fine but netcode is untested. 
> 
> but i see no mention of medal of honor
> 
> -- 
> Linux, cause i reboot less often than windows users reinstall.
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] officially ms free

2002-04-11 Thread Paul R

I'm looking forward to my copy of Return to Castle Wolfenstein I ordered
from http://www.TuxGames.com  You can buy the Windows version, and
download the Linux installer from IdSoftware.  So it really is a Linux
game, it just uses the game files from the cd.  TuxGames sells it with
the files necessary so you don't have to do the extraction from the cd
from a windows partition or through wine (like idsoftware says). 
Awesome gameplay on that!

- Paul

On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 10:34, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> James Thomas wrote:
> > 
> > Alas, I can't do this as I need Windows to:
> > 1. Play Games
> > 2. Use my Scanner - it's not yet supported under Linux that I can find and
> > scannerdrake doesn't recognize it.
> > 
> > Once game manufacturers start producing more games under Linux, I'll glady
> > make the final switch. Unfortunately, the few commercial games that have
> > gone Linux have not sold very well, so evidently the market isn't there yet.
> > Sigh.
> > 
> > James
> 
> Hi James. If I might ask, what games? I was hanging on to a Windog dual-boot
> installation just because a few of my fav games wouldn't work correctly under
> Linux, but after using Transgamings' Winex, I'm a believer. (and I no longer
> dual boot - Windoze is dead, buried, and burning in Hades!)
> 
> I use Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction and Starcraft here. Go to:
> 
> http://www.transgaming.com
> 
> for a list of compatible games and how well they work/don't work. Its well
> worth the visit! ;-)
> 
> Good luck.
> 
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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

2002-04-11 Thread ai4a

K Montgomery wrote:
> > 
> On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 22:24, Danny Luker wrote:
> > My first post to this list!
> >
> > I'm running Mandrake 8.1 with rieserfs on a 256MB  AMD K6 clocking 350 MHz
> > (older machine) and all is well.   I just purchased a Sharp Zaurus SL5500 and
> > much to my disappointment it does not talk to my Linux box.  I have spent all
> > day trying to upgrade to the 2.4.18 kernel so I can use the usbdnet patch to
> > make things right with my Zaurus.  No joy however.  I followed the README
> > that came with the 2.4.18 source download.
> >

DO you not need a 'make mrproper or make distclean' defore 'make
xconfig'??
Charles

> > After
> > make xconfig
> > make dep
> > make clean
> > make bzImage
> > make modules
> > make modules_install
> > cp ~/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot
> > editing lilo.config to point to new bzImage with lable "2.4.18" (keeping old
> > kernel available)
> > lilo
> > reboot
> >
> > then selecting my new kernel from lilo menu system flashes:
> >  Loading 2.4.18 .
> > Then it reboots ... and I grit my teeth and wonder why.
> >
> > What am I doing wrong .. any common newbie (like me) issues and Gotch-ya's?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Danny Luker
> >
> 
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Re: [newbie] Reiser Question

2002-04-11 Thread civileme

Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

>On Thursday 11 April 2002 03:42 am, you wrote:
>
>>Well I'm officially very ticked off.
>>
>>I had some problems with X.  It crashed, hard.  Mouse/keyboard,
>>evertying
>>stopped working.  Somehow, through a miracle I think, I got it to
>>reboot by
>>hitting teh reset button or just banging keys.
>>
>>Needless to say, I lost all the mail I'd d/led today.  I also lost
>>some
>>small bookmarks *No biggy there*.  The mail is what I was ticked
>>about.  I
>>couldn't figure out a way to save it.  I am using Sylpheed.
>>
>>When I rebooted, I got "fails" on a lot of Modules that tried to load.
>>Like "DevFs=Fail!" this was my first clue my install didn't
>>survive.
>>
>>Now, knowing Reiser is supposed to stop corruption of an FS, why did
>>it
>>fail this time?  Is it me or something else?
>>
>>any ideas to avoid this unfortunate situation in the future?
>>
>>I did try to get to a term by ctrl-alt-Fx.  No joy.  So...couldn't
>>shutdown
>>gracefully.
>>
>>*sigh*
>>
>>I tried the rescue option.  Ya that didn't work.
>>
>>I tried the "reinstall but don't format /home".  I have only 3
>>partitions
>>*root (/), swap, home* and have yet to figure out how to divide up
>>more &
>>get it to work properly.  *Thats a diff issue*.  However, on reboot I
>>got
>>teh same fails.  Plus! Kde couldn't write/execute the .ICEauthority
>>file. 
>>:\  I tried the "chmod" method of giving global access... another file
>>needed it.
>>
>>At that point it seemed easier to just reinstall all & save my nvidia
>>drivers I'd downloaded instead.
>>
>>*sigh*  Help? Pls?
>>
>>I am at a loss as to how to avoid/fix this in the future if this
>>happens. 
>>And why reiser failed.
>>
>>Femme
>>
>
>Ok.  Well, I'm going to step out here at the risk of sounding like a
>broken record.  First, this filesystem thing is kind of like religion,
>it's easy to spark off a debate.  All I can do is point out what I have
>observed on this and the expert list; and I've seen peeps with problems 
>both in XFS and Reiser...not just you, either.  On the other hand (and
>Civ you correct me if I'm in error) I have yet to hear of an ext3 system
>that went down with corruption.  Of course that does not mean there
>hasn't been one.  I can just assure you mine has not been one of those. 
>(KNOCK ON WOOD)
>
>
>IF you are not experimenting and IF you are not testing the relative
>performance levels of the various filesystems, my personal and Official
>Wooden Nickel Recommendation (OWNR, tm) is to use ext3 journaling as
>installed by default.  This is new stuff; and until the buggies get
>worked out, I'd take the safe road, the one where there's no bandits
>hiding in the directory trees out in the file forest along the way.  No
>sense trying to be an icecutter ship when you're in a fiberglass boat.
>
>The primary concern I had when installing was integrity of data.  I
>moved everything I had over to this system.  And that's alot of stuff.
>I've got backups but they are usually five days old at least.  If this
>rig crashes I'm SOL.  So I copied red hat's recommendations and have
>been watching carefully other folk's experiences.
>
>So that's my best approach to your question about avoid/fixing it in the
>future.  Sorry I can't be much help; wish I had a magic Reiser Wand I
>could wave to get your data back.  :(
>
>Till next time,
>
>LX
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Actually, there are reports of ext3/NFS corruption, but it may be broken 
clock chips causing it, and also some corruption copying from CD to 
ext3, which could also be bad clocks under UDMA operations at elevated 
speeds, with spurious clock interrupts playing hell with direct memory 
access.

Frankly, use ext2 for home use, unless you carry HUGE partitions.  The 
recovery from a journaling filesystem is faster, but the operation is 
usually slower, and the security is _no_ greater.  ext2 is 
extraordinarily well-designed and the one area of weakness is 4 hours to 
check a _full_ 50G partition in a worst-case scenario, but its 
check/rebuild is no more likely to lose data than any other.

Now on Reiser, use the rescue CD to boot, modprobe the reiser stuff then try

reiserfsck
...
reiserfsck --rebuild-tree

To do a complete fix if journal playback doesn't do it.

One thing I have noticed with Reiser back in 8.0 was that an error in 
the tree will fail to be detected by journal playback and will show up 
only subtly, like missing libraries on a compile which nevertheless show 
up with ldconfig -v.  Because this behavior is a serious 
failure--failure to detect a problem, I stopped recommendeing Reiser, 
and I have seen insufficient evidence to begin recommending it again.

Using scripts people showed me with mixed IDE and SCSI drives on their 
systems, I was able to reproduce corruption on XFS for 8.1.  Using the 
same scripts on 8.2, I can no

Re: [newbie] Reiser Question

2002-04-11 Thread FemmeFatale

Jussi Aalto wrote:
 
> Now about the filesystems, what I've been reading is that Reiser and XFS
> are at their best in servers and since the writer of that article knows
> Linux a lot better than me, I believe him and stick to ext3.
> 
> IDKITHABSIA
> Cheers,
> J.
> 

Thx J. I'm considering EXT3, even though Civilme's opinion wasn't that
high of it, IIRC.

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Re: [newbie] Reiser Question

2002-04-11 Thread shane

On Thursday 11 April 2002 11:56, Jussi Aalto opened a general hailing 
frequency and transmitted to all open stations:

> I have experienced a couple of TOTAL lockups too and survived them even
> though had to do master reset. I waited for a while before resetting
> hoping that the system wasn't too busy so it could write some of the
> buffers back to disk (if it makes any difference, I'm not sure, someone
> correct me if I'm wrong).

did you try the "last resort"

"Alt" + "SysRq" + "r"
"Alt" + "SysRq" + "s"
"Alt" + "SysRq" + "e"
"Alt" + "SysRq" + "i"
"Alt" + "SysRq" + "u"
"Alt" + "SysRq" + "b"

before rebooting?  that saved me once when i locked as after the first 
command the x restart worked, everything clear.  a second freeze on another 
machine this seemed to help, but i am not certain.  there was no data lost 
anyway.

so you know:

"Alt" + "SysRq" + "r" puts the keyboard in 'raw' mode. Sometimes after only 
this command you can try to kill the X server and all is well, if not, 
press on.

"Alt" + "SysRq" + "s" attempts to write all unsaved data to disk ('sync' the 
disk) to prevent file corruption.

"Alt" + "SysRq" + "e" sends a termination signal to all processes, that is 
the same as killing every program running.

"Alt" + "SysRq" + "i" sends a kill signal to all processes. If any processes 
are still running after the last key command this will clean the up.

"Alt" + "SysRq" + "u" remounts all systems in read-only mode. This is to 
prevent file system corruption.

"Alt" + "SysRq" + "b" reboots the system.

or at least that is what i am told.

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Re: OT: Games working with TransGaming (was Re: [newbie] officially m s free)

2002-04-11 Thread shane

On Thursday 11 April 2002 10:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] opened a 
general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations:

> >>> but TransGaming tends not to work well >>> with brand new games.
>
> Will games like Medal of Honor, Return to Castle Wolfenstein work on
> TransGaming???

well the site gives wolf:

Rating (how well it works in WineX): 4 out of 5

Single player works near perfectly except for minor sound sync problems. 
Multiplayer also runs fine but netcode is untested. 

but i see no mention of medal of honor

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Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

2002-04-11 Thread K Montgomery

Did you indeed install the source in your home directory, as this line
implies?

> cp ~/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot

If you installed the source from an RPM, I think the default location is
/usr/src, which is why I ask.  I also ask:

Did you get any fatal errors during the kernel compile? (You probably
would have noticed ;D)
What's in your /etc/lilo.conf?
What does "ls -l /boot/bzImage" say? 

- Kathy 

On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 22:24, Danny Luker wrote: 
> My first post to this list!
> 
> I'm running Mandrake 8.1 with rieserfs on a 256MB  AMD K6 clocking 350 MHz 
> (older machine) and all is well.   I just purchased a Sharp Zaurus SL5500 and 
> much to my disappointment it does not talk to my Linux box.  I have spent all 
> day trying to upgrade to the 2.4.18 kernel so I can use the usbdnet patch to 
> make things right with my Zaurus.  No joy however.  I followed the README 
> that came with the 2.4.18 source download.  
> 
> After 
> make xconfig
> make dep
> make clean
> make bzImage
> make modules
> make modules_install
> cp ~/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot
> editing lilo.config to point to new bzImage with lable "2.4.18" (keeping old  
> kernel available)
> lilo
> reboot
> 
> then selecting my new kernel from lilo menu system flashes:
>  Loading 2.4.18 .
> Then it reboots ... and I grit my teeth and wonder why.
> 
> What am I doing wrong .. any common newbie (like me) issues and Gotch-ya's?
> 
> Thanks
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Re: [newbie] Reiser Question

2002-04-11 Thread Jussi Aalto

Hi

On Thursday 11 April 2002 05:25, Femme wrote:
> I had some problems with X.  It crashed, hard.  Mouse/keyboard,
> evertying stopped working.  Somehow, through a miracle I think, I got
> it to reboot by hitting teh reset button or just banging keys.
>
> Needless to say, I lost all the mail I'd d/led today.  I also lost some
> small bookmarks *No biggy there*.  The mail is what I was ticked about.
>  I couldn't figure out a way to save it.  I am using Sylpheed.
>
> any ideas to avoid this unfortunate situation in the future?

I have experienced a couple of TOTAL lockups too and survived them even 
though had to do master reset. I waited for a while before resetting 
hoping that the system wasn't too busy so it could write some of the 
buffers back to disk (if it makes any difference, I'm not sure, someone 
correct me if I'm wrong).

Filesystem is ext3 and has worked nicely. After reset the system just 
checked the disk(s) and fixed whatever had to be fixed and up he(she?) 
was again. It may be that something got lost but the important thing for 
me is that the system is up and running and if errors occur I could try 
to fix them. Anyway, what I tried to say was that if the keyb and mouse 
die, it doesn't always mean that the whole system is dead. So next time 
when the system freezes, spend few minutes doing something else and after 
that you can play with the R-button.

Now about the filesystems, what I've been reading is that Reiser and XFS 
are at their best in servers and since the writer of that article knows 
Linux a lot better than me, I believe him and stick to ext3.

IDKITHABSIA
Cheers,
J.

> I am at a loss as to how to avoid/fix this in the future if this
> happens.  And why reiser failed.
>
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[newbie] New hard-drives, now what? :)

2002-04-11 Thread Charlie

Hi all;

A situation has developed here in 'Garlic City' that requires me to replace 
my old Maxtor 13 GB hard drive (primary master) with something slightly 
larger. As in a 40 GB, or (another) 60 GB. It has to do with a friend's old 
P200 machine and a little 11 year old that wants a "computer to  use like 
daddy's" but the old one has a dead drive. The specs are such that the BIOS 
can't be forced to use anything larger than 8 GB. What does that have to do 
with my 13 GB you ask? I'm swapping it to hisaunt for her 6.4 GB and using 
that on the P200. Then I'll be able to sucker her into trying Mandrake 8.2. 
She's been "afeered of that thang!" until now but she can live with the dual 
boot she'll end up with.

Anyway, back to the question: I'll be re-installing Mandrake on my own box. 
The partitions as it stands now on the two drives are:
my old 13 GB Maxtor : boot (500 MB; probably WAY too much), 
/ (roughly 5 GB), 
/usr (about 5.5 GB), 
/var at about 1.5 GB.
my new 60 GB:
/home 35 GB,
/data store 25 GB.

I don't like this for some reason. It doesn't seem 'elegant.' Anyone have a 
suggestion regarding partition layout and sizes? I'll most likely go for 
another 60 GB Maxtor since there's only about CDN$18 price difference. That's 
only US$11.33 at the spot exchange right now for my friends south of the 
border.

Thanks for reading, and TIA for any suggestions!
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Re: [newbie] problem with individualization

2002-04-11 Thread Hakan Duran

Thanks Baka,

I think I will install 8.2 if I decide to reinstall the system.  This is one
of the biggest challanges of Linux in general, I believe.  MS somehow
succeeded to solve this problem, however some work still needs to be done
for linux.

Hakan
PS: BTW I did change the language in KDE control center as well as other
places like /etc/sysconfig/i18n, etc.

- Original Message -
From: "Baka Attila Tamás" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:52 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] problem with individualization


> Hi!
>
> I guess you changed the language in the KDE control center. (If not than
> stop reading)
>
> If you change in KDE it will change sttings for KDE only.
>
> Or if you changed elsewhere, try reinstalling (formatting / only, not
/home)
>
> BAT
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hakan Duran
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] problem with individualization
>
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> I have a P133, 128 RAM box running happily in a dual boot environment with
> Mandrake 8.1, kernel 2.2.19-19mdksecure, kde2.2.1 and windows95.
>
> The problem started when I change the system settings in terms of
language,
> fonts (console and X-windows) and keymaps, to Turkish, since I joined the
> translation team.  This did not take too much effort surprisingly (to me
at
> least), however I noticed some problems afterwards, to which some people
> here may suggest some solutions hopefully:
>
> 1. Everything (fonts, keymaps, etc.) is OK for kde.  Local messages, menus
> are all OK.  However, gnome does not display special characters of this
> language at anywhere (menus, dialogs, error messages, etc.), although the
> font and keycode (ISO-8859-9) are set appropriate.  One of the Turkish
gurus
> has told me that might be because this version of gnome does not convert
> UTF-8 to ISO-8859-9.  This problem is supposed to be resolved in gnome 2.0
> she added.
>
> 2. All of the mandrake tools (everything in mandrake control center, such
as
> menudrake, harddrake, etc) has the same problem with gnome.  All the
special
> characters are replaced by "?", even if they run under kde.  Moreover,
> rpmdrake never installs, updates or upgrades any package anymore!
Whenever
> I try to do so, it returns with the packages are bad, regardless of the
> source (ftp site, cdroms, etc).  This is rather strange, because I could
not
> resolve the problem by reverting the changes for language step by step
> (fonts, keymaps, local messages, etc.).  OK, I did not revert everything
> back to English all at the same time, but the only combination I didn't
try
> was that.
>
> I believe this is a serious problem, unless my rpmdrake was corrupted by
> another mechanism simultaneously, by chance.  I am ready to try any
> suggestions made.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Hakan
>
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OT: Games working with TransGaming (was Re: [newbie] officially ms free)

2002-04-11 Thread Michael . Hughes

>>> but TransGaming tends not to work well >>> with brand new games.

Will games like Medal of Honor, Return to Castle Wolfenstein work on
TransGaming???

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[newbie] Strange thing happening!

2002-04-11 Thread Graham Watkins


For the past few days whenever I start up my system, when I get to the 
graphical login screen (GDM) my first attempt to log in as a user always 
returns me to the login screen.  On the second attempt, I manage to get 
in.  Don't know what's causing this or how to stop it.

I'm using Mandrake 7.2.  Let me know if if any more info required.

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] officially ms free

2002-04-11 Thread James Thomas

> > Alas, I can't do this as I need Windows to:
> > 1. Play Games
> > 2. Use my Scanner - it's not yet supported under Linux that I can find 
>and
> > scannerdrake doesn't recognize it.
> >

>Hi James. If I might ask, what games? I was hanging on to a Windog 
>dual-boot
>installation just because a few of my fav games wouldn't work correctly 
>under
>Linux, but after using Transgamings' Winex, I'm a believer. (and I no 
>longer
>dual boot - Windoze is dead, buried, and burning in Hades!)

Well, I just got Dungeon Siege, a great game and even though it's 
DISTRIBUTED by MS, wasn't made by them (phew! :P). I also play D2 (which 
you've said works, so cool) but TransGaming tends not to work well with 
brand new games.

James


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[newbie] Where Can I find cdrtools packages v1.11a19 or newer

2002-04-11 Thread John Richard Smith

Having rebuilt cdrtools-1.11a20-1.src.rpm, all new files are :-
/usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586/cdrtools-cdda2wav-1.11a20-1.i586.rpm
   /cdrtools-cdrecord-1.11a20-1.i586.rpm
   /cdrtools-libscg-1.11a20-1.i586.rpm
   /cdrtools-mkisofs-1.11a20-1.i586.rpm
and they have installed flawlessly, I think.

Now I need to add xcdroast, but everytime I go to install 
xcdroast-0.98-16mdk.i586.rpm , mandrake insists on me incerting
disks 1 and 2 , to reinstall what I don't want, this despite having
downloaded the install version rather than using the distro supplied
version.
I suspect I need to delete some entry somewhere in some software
list so that I am  free to complete the install, if so what, or 
what do you do.

regards,

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RE: [newbie] What file do I change?

2002-04-11 Thread Burrows, Scott

Thanks Sridhar!

Scott

-Original Message-
From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] What file do I change?


On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 08:10:23 -0500, "Burrows, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:> Hi all,
> 
> Running MD 8.2 here.
> 
> What file would the the root user modify if he wanted the change to 
> be seen by users when they logged in?  For example if you wanted them
> to see a Fortune Cookie message.

For console logins, /etc/profile will affect all users. I'm not so sure
about
X... perhaps /etc/X11/Xsession?

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Re: [newbie] officially ms free

2002-04-11 Thread Charles Muller

On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 23:35, Shane wrote:

> it is indeed 8.2.  it seems the hp5370c is not yet fully supported, but they 
> are in the making so to speak. 

I see. Well, I hope they come up with the support soon. In my case, I am
using an Epson GT 6700 (in Japan).

Chuck


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Re: [newbie] problems with 8.2

2002-04-11 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 07:09:44 -0600
"Blood Slap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> rather than upgrading or reinstalling, could I not just switch to another
> version of XFree86 in the control center and see if that helps?

No it is not that easy.
When you ran the installation the first time and selected 4.20, the 4.20 rpms were the 
only ones installed.
You could use mcc to manly change to 3.36 but it is easier and faster to just run an 
upgrade install.

Start the installation.
Choose Upgrade, Expert mode.
It will spend a couple of mins looking for pkgs to upgrade.
You need not select any pkgs, just click OK.
You can skip the network and printer configuration.
You will need to let it install the bootloader (before accepting I usually select 
modify and remove the entries created as Old since they are just duplicates)
Next configure X selecting your choice, you will be required to insert the appropriate 
CD and then you are done.

The whole process will take only 10min.


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Re: [newbie] /dev/dvd

2002-04-11 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:33:23 -0300
Oder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> HradDrake sees my DVD in a toshiba notebook  with DVD-ROM/CD-RW as hdc; dmesg 
> | grep hd showed hdc, but nothing is telling to xine and the rest of the OS 
> that /dev/dvd even exists. I pointed the dvd drive with ln -s /dev/hdc/ 
> /dev/dvd but does not work. The standard CD-RW works fine. How to I fix this? 
> Any help would be really appreciate. Thanks in advance, Oder. 
> 
> 
 
 ln -s cdrom /dev/dvd


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[newbie] winex ?

2002-04-11 Thread - hybrid -

any suggestions for configure/compile winex ? i've got some probs at the
end of make ...

anybody knows when winex 2.0 will be released ? s

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AW: [newbie] officially ms free

2002-04-11 Thread - hybrid -



---
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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. April 2002 16:34
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: [newbie] officially ms free


James Thomas wrote:
> 
> Alas, I can't do this as I need Windows to:
> 1. Play Games
> 2. Use my Scanner - it's not yet supported under Linux that I can find

> and scannerdrake doesn't recognize it.
> 
> Once game manufacturers start producing more games under Linux, I'll 
> glady make the final switch. Unfortunately, the few commercial games 
> that have gone Linux have not sold very well, so evidently the market 
> isn't there yet. Sigh.
> 
> James

Hi James. If I might ask, what games? I was hanging on to a Windog
dual-boot installation just because a few of my fav games wouldn't work
correctly under Linux, but after using Transgamings' Winex, I'm a
believer. (and I no longer dual boot - Windoze is dead, buried, and
burning in Hades!)

I use Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction and Starcraft here. Go to:

http://www.transgaming.com

for a list of compatible games and how well they work/don't work. Its
well worth the visit! ;-)

Good luck.

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[newbie] Linksys Ether16 ISA Card

2002-04-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have a mini-tower that I am trying to use as a firewall for my DSL. I need to nics 
and I only have one ISA Slot and one PCI Slot. The PCI card is a netgear and it is 
working fine. The ISA card is a brand new Linksys ether16 card. I can't get it to 
work. It won't auto detect and it is not in the list. Please someone help me.

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Re: [newbie] officially ms free

2002-04-11 Thread shane

On Wednesday 10 April 2002 22:43, Charles Muller opened a general hailing 
frequency and transmitted to all open stations:

> When I read this, I was just wondering if this is in Mandrake 8.2. My
> scanner (USB) also didn't work in 8.1, but 8.2 automatically recognized
> it and it works fine.

it is indeed 8.2.  it seems the hp5370c is not yet fully supported, but they 
are in the making so to speak.

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Re: [newbie] officially ms free

2002-04-11 Thread Ronald J. Hall

James Thomas wrote:
> 
> Alas, I can't do this as I need Windows to:
> 1. Play Games
> 2. Use my Scanner - it's not yet supported under Linux that I can find and
> scannerdrake doesn't recognize it.
> 
> Once game manufacturers start producing more games under Linux, I'll glady
> make the final switch. Unfortunately, the few commercial games that have
> gone Linux have not sold very well, so evidently the market isn't there yet.
> Sigh.
> 
> James

Hi James. If I might ask, what games? I was hanging on to a Windog dual-boot
installation just because a few of my fav games wouldn't work correctly under
Linux, but after using Transgamings' Winex, I'm a believer. (and I no longer
dual boot - Windoze is dead, buried, and burning in Hades!)

I use Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction and Starcraft here. Go to:

http://www.transgaming.com

for a list of compatible games and how well they work/don't work. Its well
worth the visit! ;-)

Good luck.

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Re: [newbie] What file do I change?

2002-04-11 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 08:10:23 -0500, "Burrows, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:> Hi all,
> 
> Running MD 8.2 here.
> 
> What file would the the root user modify if he wanted the change to 
> be seen by users when they logged in?  For example if you wanted them
> to see a Fortune Cookie message.

For console logins, /etc/profile will affect all users. I'm not so sure about
X... perhaps /etc/X11/Xsession?

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AW: [newbie] Dual boot problems

2002-04-11 Thread - hybrid -

what do you mean w/ 'on the same disk' ?

do you have different partitions ? or did you install win98 and linux
and exactly the same partition ? 

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I recently got Mandrake 8.1 standard edition, having read it was good
for those 
with absolutely no idea about linux, like me. I installed it alongside
my usual 
Windows 98 on the same hard disk, and although the bootloader menu shows

Windows I can't boot into it; the screen reads "Loading Windows" and
just 
hangs. I tried booting from a floppy to get into DOS but the same thing 
happened. I made a boot floppy from within linux and it booted from that
OK, 
but it just gave me a boot: prompt which I didn't know how to use. I
have a 
partitioning program but that boots from a floppy, which I can't do.
What's 
going on? Help!

Thanks
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Re: [newbie] Re: Can FreeCell be Moved?

2002-04-11 Thread Gary Montalbine

Hi Bob,

I upgraded to  8.2 from 8.1 without losing the score in Free Cell.

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[newbie] What file do I change?

2002-04-11 Thread Burrows, Scott

Hi all,

Running MD 8.2 here.

What file would the the root user modify if he wanted the change to 
be seen by users when they logged in?  For example if you wanted them
to see a Fortune Cookie message.

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] problems with 8.2

2002-04-11 Thread Blood Slap

rather than upgrading or reinstalling, could I not just switch to another
version of XFree86 in the control center and see if that helps?
- Original Message -
From: "Charles A Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] problems with 8.2


> On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 16:56:26 -0600
> "Blood Slap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'd also like to add, just incase it means anything, that in HardDrake,
it says my graphics card is pci and not agp.
>
> AGP slots are just glorified pci slots which allow for an increase bus
speed through deception beyond that of the 33 Mhz which the pci slot itself
can provide.
>
> >
> >   Just to clear something up, I (Michael Kovary) am the same person as
Blood Slap.
> >   The From says "Michael Kovary" when I send the message from the
hotmail web site, and Blood Slap from Outlook Express.
> >   Ok, I have just # out the dri in my config file, and it didn't freeze
for the short time that I was using gnome (usually happens when I scroll
through windows, so I scrolled my heart out).  But when playing 3d games
(gltron) it is unplayably slow, just like before when I upgraded.  So what's
the deal, is there a way to keep my system from freezing and be able to play
games?
> >
> >
> > Windows does not lock on the same machine, and all of my games
actually work perfectly fine.  I wil try what was suggested.
>
> From the info you have provided I can see nothing that should be causing
your system to freeze.
> Because it is not also occurring in Windows is a good indication that the
problem is not 'bad' hardware, though it could still be hardware
related--processor speed, RAM, shared IRQs.
>
> If installing as an upgrade does not solve the problem, install again
except choose X-3.3.6 with accel.
>
> Once all obvious causes/solutions have been eliminated it then becomes the
tedious process of trial and error.
>
>
> Charles
>
>
>
>






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[newbie] /dev/dvd

2002-04-11 Thread Oder

HradDrake sees my DVD in a toshiba notebook  with DVD-ROM/CD-RW as hdc; dmesg 
| grep hd showed hdc, but nothing is telling to xine and the rest of the OS 
that /dev/dvd even exists. I pointed the dvd drive with ln -s /dev/hdc/ 
/dev/dvd but does not work. The standard CD-RW works fine. How to I fix this? 
Any help would be really appreciate. Thanks in advance, Oder. 



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Re: [newbie] Re: Can FreeCell be Moved?

2002-04-11 Thread Bob Read


Thanks  Gary,
Problem is that I want to  move it to a new  instalation 
on a new  drive.
Bob
Gary Montalbine wrote:
Hi Bob,
I upgraded to  8.2 from 8.1 without losing the score in Free Cell.
Gary
  
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[newbie] Dual boot problems

2002-04-11 Thread anbolb

I recently got Mandrake 8.1 standard edition, having read it was good for those 
with absolutely no idea about linux, like me. I installed it alongside my usual 
Windows 98 on the same hard disk, and although the bootloader menu shows 
Windows I can't boot into it; the screen reads "Loading Windows" and just 
hangs. I tried booting from a floppy to get into DOS but the same thing 
happened. I made a boot floppy from within linux and it booted from that OK, 
but it just gave me a boot: prompt which I didn't know how to use. I have a 
partitioning program but that boots from a floppy, which I can't do. What's 
going on? Help!

Thanks
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Re: [newbie] ATI Radeon, XFree 4.2 and Mandrake 8.2: Are they getting along?

2002-04-11 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:07:58 +1200
Walter Logeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Charles, all,
> 
> I am just reading along here...
> 
> = My Machine =
> Dell i8100 laptop
> ATI Radeon 7500 Mobility
> Mandrake 8.1
> Linux 2.4.9-13smp i686 [ELF]
> Upgraded to Xfree86 4.2.0  (rpm still thinks its 4.1)
> 
> > Do rpm -q Mesa.
> > You should have Mesa-4.0.1-4mdk.
> >
> > Su to root and launch glxgears from a terminal.
> > You should see the line "Loading required GL library
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2"
> 
> 935 root@psybernet:/ (10:04:19)
> # $ rpm -q Mesa
> bash: $: command not found

The command should be
# rpm -q Mesa (it has to be run su/root not as usr)


> 936 root@psybernet:/ (10:04:32)
> # glxgears
> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
> 937 root@psybernet:/ (10:04:37)

This indicates that you do not have the Mesa pkgs installed.

 
> So would it be useful for me to improve my system?
> 
> Shld i go to 8.2 first?

That is entirely up to you.

First try installing the Mesa rpms from your 8.1 CDs, there will be 3 that you have to 
install Mesa, Mesa-demos, and libMesaGL.

One caveat is that I am unsure as to the amount of support for the Radeon Mobility 
chip either by XFree86-4.2 or in Mandrake 8.1/8.2.
The mobility uses a different chip than the standard Radeon and 3d support for it is 
not specifically listed.


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Re: [newbie] problems with 8.2

2002-04-11 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 16:56:26 -0600
"Blood Slap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd also like to add, just incase it means anything, that in HardDrake, it says my 
>graphics card is pci and not agp.

AGP slots are just glorified pci slots which allow for an increase bus speed through 
deception beyond that of the 33 Mhz which the pci slot itself can provide. 
 
> 
>   Just to clear something up, I (Michael Kovary) am the same person as Blood Slap.
>   The From says "Michael Kovary" when I send the message from the hotmail web site, 
>and Blood Slap from Outlook Express.
>   Ok, I have just # out the dri in my config file, and it didn't freeze for the 
>short time that I was using gnome (usually happens when I scroll through windows, so 
>I scrolled my heart out).  But when playing 3d games (gltron) it is unplayably slow, 
>just like before when I upgraded.  So what's the deal, is there a way to keep my 
>system from freezing and be able to play games?
> 
> 
> Windows does not lock on the same machine, and all of my games actually work 
>perfectly fine.  I wil try what was suggested.

>From the info you have provided I can see nothing that should be causing your system 
>to freeze.
Because it is not also occurring in Windows is a good indication that the problem is 
not 'bad' hardware, though it could still be hardware related--processor speed, RAM, 
shared IRQs.

If installing as an upgrade does not solve the problem, install again except choose 
X-3.3.6 with accel.

Once all obvious causes/solutions have been eliminated it then becomes the tedious 
process of trial and error.  


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Re: [newbie] Where Can I find cdrtools packages v1.11a19 or newer

2002-04-11 Thread John Richard Smith

On Wednesday 10 April 2002 18:01, you wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 04:45:49 +1200
>
> Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Your current sources directory is "/root/Desktop/". I would not recommend
> > installing it from there. Create another directory called cdrtools like
> > so
> >
> > root# mkdir /cdrtools
> > root# cd /cdrtools
> > root# cp /root/Desktop/cdr* .
> >
> > then continue as previously advised. I think the new directory should be
> > created somewhere like /usr/share to conform to standard. If i am wrong i
> > will get my ass kicked quick!
> >
> > HTH
> > Michael
> >
> > John Richard Smith wrote:
> > > Thank you all, but,
> > >
> > > When I try to cd into sources directory this is what happens.
> > >
> > > [root@localhost root]# cd /root/Desktop/cdrtools-1.11a20-1.src.rpm
> > > bash: cd: /root/Desktop/cdrtools-1.11a20-1.src.rpm: Not a directory
> > > [root@localhost root]#
> > >
> > > So what do I need to do now, in order to proceed.
>
> I have read the thread but am not really sure what you are trying to
> accomplish.
>
> If all you wish to do is to rebuild the src.rpm then dl the rpm to your
> home directory. Open a term and su to root.
> # cd /home/charles
> # rpm -rebuild cdrtools-1.11a20-1.src.rpm
> (be forewarned I can almost guarantee that you are going to need to install
> additional -devel pkgs before you can rebuild.)
>
> When/if the build successfully completes the 'new' cdrtools-1.11a20-1.rpm
> can be found in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS in the direc. for your system default
> builds, most likely i586.
>
> Only thing necessary now is to install it.
>
>
> Charles
..

Thank you all, 

This has been most interesting for me. All new 
ground, and at the risk of being criticised for hogging band width
I will include all the results.

[root@localhost root]# ls -l /cdrtools
total 1412
-rwsrwsrwx1 root root  1440664 Apr  7 23:28 
cdrtools-1.11a20-1.src.rpm*
[root@localhost root]# cd /cdrtools
[root@localhost cdrtools]# rpm -rebuild cdrtools-1.11a20-1.src.rpm

( I think some text got cut off here, don't know why )

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[newbie] enlighentment and antialiased font ?

2002-04-11 Thread - hybrid -

i did as they sey on the mandrakeuser.org site 

copied that file , but as i restartet the x server it kicked me back to
the login screen
had to redo the changes as root

then it worked again ...

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Re: [newbie] Drakconf detects wrong amount of video RAM

2002-04-11 Thread Derek Jennings

The resolution/colour depth is controlled by the stanzas in XF86Config-4 for 
'Subsection Display' You can only use the resolutions declared here.

If you put in more stanzas be careful not to overdrive your monitor or else 
it may be damaged if the scan rate is too high.

You can read all about configuring your X environment at 
http://www.xfree86.org/

derek



On Thursday 11 April 2002 10:38 am, Mads Paulin wrote:
> I think that the detected amount of video RAM is used to detect which
> colordepths are available at a given screen resolution. My problem is
> that i want my monitor at a resolution of 1280x1024 at 24 bpp in approx.
> 75 Hz. I cant get all three things in linux although I can i Windows.
>
> Everytime i change the resolution-box in drakconf to 1280x1024 the depth
> automatically changes to 16bpp. I figured that this had something to do
> with the wrong amount of video RAM.
>
> Mads
>
> On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 11:09, Derek Jennings wrote:
> > On Thursday 11 April 2002 9:40 am, Mads Paulin wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I just installed Mandrak 8.2.
> > >
> > > I have tried to change the resolution of the screen, but drakeconf
> > > detects a TNT2 card with 4 mb RAM. the card type is correct but the
> > > amount of ram should be 32.
> > >
> > > Also, it detects the card as a pci card. This hsould be agp.
> > >
> > > I am running XFree 4.2
> > >
> > > Any suggestions to how to get this right ?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Mads
> >
> > Not sure if the RAM displayed actually means anything. But in any case
> > you can change it if you wish by editing /etc/X11/XF86Config-4  In the
> > stanza where your video card is defined you will see a line about RAM
> > (probably commented out)
> >
> > As for it being shown as PCI. Do not worry. This is normal. AGP cards are
> > PCI as well as AGP. It will be working as AGP as you will see if you look
> > at /var/log/XFree86.0.log
> >
> > derek
> >
> > 
> >
> >
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Re: [newbie] ATI Radeon, XFree 4.2 and Mandrake 8.2: Are they getting along?

2002-04-11 Thread Walter Logeman

Charles, all,

I am just reading along here...

= My Machine =
Dell i8100 laptop
ATI Radeon 7500 Mobility
Mandrake 8.1
Linux 2.4.9-13smp i686 [ELF]
Upgraded to Xfree86 4.2.0  (rpm still thinks its 4.1)

> Do rpm -q Mesa.
> You should have Mesa-4.0.1-4mdk.
>
> Su to root and launch glxgears from a terminal.
> You should see the line "Loading required GL library
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2"

935 root@psybernet:/ (10:04:19)
# $ rpm -q Mesa
bash: $: command not found
936 root@psybernet:/ (10:04:32)
# glxgears
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
937 root@psybernet:/ (10:04:37)

So would it be useful for me to improve my system?

Shld i go to 8.2 first?

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[newbie] Re: X server won't start

2002-04-11 Thread Onur Kucuk


Thursday, April 11, 2002, 10:33:58 AM, you wrote:

MV> Hello,

MV> I'm running Mandrake 8.1 and had it configured to startup running KDE under my 
MV> . Now I can't start X anymore. I suspect that the changing the screen 
resolution 
MV> with Mandrake Control Center messed things up. Before I did all was running like a 
MV> charm.


MV> When I try I get this message:

MV> % startx

MV> execve failed for /etc/X11/X 
MV> (errno 13)

MV> (system waits for a short while...)
MV> giving up
MV> xinit: Connection refused 
MV> (errno 111): unable to connect to X server
MV> xinit: No such process (errno 3): server 
MV> error

MV> Does anybody know how I can fix this problem. A new install would mean a loss of 
data 
MV> since I didn't get to running the cd-burner yet, in other words, I have no backup 
of my home 
MV> directory.

MV> Marco


 Try running drakconf at the console, which will ask you the root
 password.

 Here you can change/reconfigure the display settings.

 You dont need to reinstall.

 
 Regards,
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RE: [newbie] problem with individualization

2002-04-11 Thread Baka Attila Tamás

Hi!

I guess you changed the language in the KDE control center. (If not than
stop reading)

If you change in KDE it will change sttings for KDE only.

Or if you changed elsewhere, try reinstalling (formatting / only, not /home)

BAT

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hakan Duran
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] problem with individualization


Hi everybody,

I have a P133, 128 RAM box running happily in a dual boot environment with
Mandrake 8.1, kernel 2.2.19-19mdksecure, kde2.2.1 and windows95.

The problem started when I change the system settings in terms of language,
fonts (console and X-windows) and keymaps, to Turkish, since I joined the
translation team.  This did not take too much effort surprisingly (to me at
least), however I noticed some problems afterwards, to which some people
here may suggest some solutions hopefully:

1. Everything (fonts, keymaps, etc.) is OK for kde.  Local messages, menus
are all OK.  However, gnome does not display special characters of this
language at anywhere (menus, dialogs, error messages, etc.), although the
font and keycode (ISO-8859-9) are set appropriate.  One of the Turkish gurus
has told me that might be because this version of gnome does not convert
UTF-8 to ISO-8859-9.  This problem is supposed to be resolved in gnome 2.0
she added.

2. All of the mandrake tools (everything in mandrake control center, such as
menudrake, harddrake, etc) has the same problem with gnome.  All the special
characters are replaced by "?", even if they run under kde.  Moreover,
rpmdrake never installs, updates or upgrades any package anymore!  Whenever
I try to do so, it returns with the packages are bad, regardless of the
source (ftp site, cdroms, etc).  This is rather strange, because I could not
resolve the problem by reverting the changes for language step by step
(fonts, keymaps, local messages, etc.).  OK, I did not revert everything
back to English all at the same time, but the only combination I didn't try
was that.

I believe this is a serious problem, unless my rpmdrake was corrupted by
another mechanism simultaneously, by chance.  I am ready to try any
suggestions made.

Thanks in advance,

Hakan


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Re: [newbie] Drakconf detects wrong amount of video RAM

2002-04-11 Thread Mads Paulin

I think that the detected amount of video RAM is used to detect which
colordepths are available at a given screen resolution. My problem is
that i want my monitor at a resolution of 1280x1024 at 24 bpp in approx.
75 Hz. I cant get all three things in linux although I can i Windows.

Everytime i change the resolution-box in drakconf to 1280x1024 the depth
automatically changes to 16bpp. I figured that this had something to do
with the wrong amount of video RAM.

Mads


On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 11:09, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Thursday 11 April 2002 9:40 am, Mads Paulin wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just installed Mandrak 8.2.
> >
> > I have tried to change the resolution of the screen, but drakeconf
> > detects a TNT2 card with 4 mb RAM. the card type is correct but the
> > amount of ram should be 32.
> >
> > Also, it detects the card as a pci card. This hsould be agp.
> >
> > I am running XFree 4.2
> >
> > Any suggestions to how to get this right ?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Mads
> 
> Not sure if the RAM displayed actually means anything. But in any case you 
> can change it if you wish by editing /etc/X11/XF86Config-4  In the stanza 
> where your video card is defined you will see a line about RAM (probably 
> commented out)
> 
> As for it being shown as PCI. Do not worry. This is normal. AGP cards are PCI 
> as well as AGP. It will be working as AGP as you will see if you look at 
> /var/log/XFree86.0.log   
> 
> derek
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] How to read and write to a Win XP partition

2002-04-11 Thread luca braglia


Thank you very much for all your reply, I think I will give a try
to the Michael solution and create a FAT32 partition.

Luca

Michael Viron wrote:

> If it is a NTFS filesystem, the linux kernel only supports read /
> experimental write on NTFS 4.0.
> 
> The NTFS which is used by Windows 2k / Win XP is only supported as a
> read-only filesystem.
> 
> To share files between Windows and Linux, you are better off to create a
> FAT32 partition (which has read / write support in linux) and use that to
> share files.
> 
> Michael
> At 10:31 AM 4/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
> 
>>Hi All,
>>
>>I have Window$ XP installed on sda1 and Mandrake 8.2 on sdb1
>>how can I mount manually the Window$ partition to enable
>>writing on the XP partition ?
>>I tried to mount the normal way but I can only read.
>>On the message log I get this :
>>
>>Warning! NTFS volume version is Win2k+: Mounting read only
>>
>>
>>Thanks in advance
>>
>>Luca
>>
>>
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>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] Drakconf detects wrong amount of video RAM

2002-04-11 Thread Derek Jennings

On Thursday 11 April 2002 9:40 am, Mads Paulin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just installed Mandrak 8.2.
>
> I have tried to change the resolution of the screen, but drakeconf
> detects a TNT2 card with 4 mb RAM. the card type is correct but the
> amount of ram should be 32.
>
> Also, it detects the card as a pci card. This hsould be agp.
>
> I am running XFree 4.2
>
> Any suggestions to how to get this right ?
>
> Best Regards
> Mads

Not sure if the RAM displayed actually means anything. But in any case you 
can change it if you wish by editing /etc/X11/XF86Config-4  In the stanza 
where your video card is defined you will see a line about RAM (probably 
commented out)

As for it being shown as PCI. Do not worry. This is normal. AGP cards are PCI 
as well as AGP. It will be working as AGP as you will see if you look at 
/var/log/XFree86.0.log   

derek



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Re: [newbie] Login

2002-04-11 Thread Derek Jennings

On Tuesday 09 April 2002 11:26 pm, Brian York wrote:
> How do you keep users from showing up at the login screen for mandrake 8.2?
>
> Thanks
> Brian
>

If you use kdm then as root open KDEControl Centre (kcontrol)
KDEControl Centre>System>LoginManager>Users

either select UID threshold or else set individual users to show/noshow

derek



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[newbie] Drakconf detects wrong amount of video RAM

2002-04-11 Thread Mads Paulin

Hi,

I just installed Mandrak 8.2.

I have tried to change the resolution of the screen, but drakeconf
detects a TNT2 card with 4 mb RAM. the card type is correct but the
amount of ram should be 32.

Also, it detects the card as a pci card. This hsould be agp.

I am running XFree 4.2

Any suggestions to how to get this right ?

Best Regards
Mads




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