Re: [newbie] never-ending story

2002-04-13 Thread FemmeFatale

Todd Slater wrote:
> 
> Playing with window and file managers. My latest--blackbox + rox. Talk
> about fast! Dang, I love playing with this stuff!
> 
> --
> Todd Slater
> 11:20pm up 12:19, 2 users, load average: 0.38, 0.18, 0.20
> Training is everything. The peach was once a bitter almond; cauliflower is
> nothing but cabbage with a college education. (Mark Twain)
> 

Whats Rox pls? 

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Re: [newbie] Dual CPU Query

2002-04-13 Thread civileme

Andrew Tuson wrote:

>I have built a twin 1GHz P111 box, using an Abit VP6 motherboard.  I 
>installed Mandrake 8.2, and followed the HowTo to rebuild the kernel
>with multiprocessor support.
>
>When the machine boots up, the initial boot screen shows that 2 CPUs
>are present, and using dmesg to view the Linux boot text I get the report:
>
>Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.1
>Virtual Wire compatibility mode.
>OEM ID: OEM0 Product ID: PROD APIC at: 0xFEE0
>Processor #0 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17
>Processor #1 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17
>I/O APIC #2 Version 17 at 0xFEC0.
>Processors: 2
>
>A liitle further down it shows the first processor being initialized, but not
>the second.
>
>After logging in,
>
>cat /proc/cpuinfo
>
>only shows one CPU.
>
>Does anyone know what my problem is, and how I can coach Linux to
>recognize my second COU.
>
>All help gratefully received.
>
>Andrew Tuson 
>
>
>
>
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I installed 8.2 and I can boot either linux or linux-UP on my old dual 
PPro.  I did not rebuild the kernel, just let the installer supply me 
with the SMP kernel, and added the UP kernel during package selection in 
case I ever take out one processor and still want to use the machine.

So did you use the default SMP kernel provided?  It might be a good 
fall-back until you can tune your customized kernel.

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Re: [newbie] Dual CPU Query

2002-04-13 Thread Dan LaBine

Jay; When you bought the CPU's did you make sure that they had the same
batch numbers? This could make a big difference!

Lanman

- Original Message -
From: "Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual CPU Query


> > I have built a twin 1GHz P111 box, using an Abit VP6 motherboard.  I
> > installed Mandrake 8.2, and followed the HowTo to rebuild the kernel
> > with multiprocessor support.
> >
> > When the machine boots up, the initial boot screen shows that 2 CPUs
> > are present, and using dmesg to view the Linux boot text I get the
report:
> >
> > Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.1
> > Virtual Wire compatibility mode.
> > OEM ID: OEM0 Product ID: PROD APIC at: 0xFEE0
> > Processor #0 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17
> > Processor #1 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17
> > I/O APIC #2 Version 17 at 0xFEC0.
> > Processors: 2
> >
> > Andrew Tuson





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Re: [newbie] Stopping X

2002-04-13 Thread civileme

Brian York wrote:

>Do i need to repeat my self i want my computer to start up normaly with 
>graphical login. Downloading the xstat would be more trouble than just using 
>the terminal login and typing xstart.
>
I gave you a couple of alternatives in my post, not just Xtart.

The point is, you don't really need to stop X to do console work.  You 
can either start from the console all the time or you can start from X. 
 If you don't want X to come back after you logout

Ok to just stop X bring up an terminal window, use su to become root

ps ax | grep X

look at the list and find the process id of the Xserver, then

kill -9 (number you got from the list)

and X will die immediately, leaving you in an interesting state.
==

You have to change the runlevel to 3 instead of 5 for a proper shutdown of X

It is _theoretically_ possible to stop X if you change the last line of

/etc/inittab

to prevent the respawning of the graphical login--say change it to 
"telinit 3" after the colon, but then getting back into X could become 
problematic.
===
I wrote Xtart for your situation, and it (an old version) is on your CD, 
but basically there is no way to stop X (uncatastrophically) without 
changing runlevel, and doing that is not without hazards.

So you have the information.  If a 2k download is too much for you, just 
use the old one, on your install CDs since 8.1.

Civileme

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Re: [newbie] Dual CPU Query

2002-04-13 Thread Jay

Mandrake comes with a smp kernel (multi processor kernel). Maybe give that a
try, see how it is setup, then try and emulate that. It may take longer to learn
it, but you will gain experience dealing with multiple CPU's. I haven't used a
dual CPU system so I don't really know, just an idea.



Quoting Andrew Tuson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> I have built a twin 1GHz P111 box, using an Abit VP6 motherboard.  I 
> installed Mandrake 8.2, and followed the HowTo to rebuild the kernel
> with multiprocessor support.
> 
> When the machine boots up, the initial boot screen shows that 2 CPUs
> are present, and using dmesg to view the Linux boot text I get the report:
> 
> Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.1
> Virtual Wire compatibility mode.
> OEM ID: OEM0 Product ID: PROD APIC at: 0xFEE0
> Processor #0 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17
> Processor #1 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17
> I/O APIC #2 Version 17 at 0xFEC0.
> Processors: 2
> 
> A liitle further down it shows the first processor being initialized, but
> not
> the second.
> 
> After logging in,
> 
> cat /proc/cpuinfo
> 
> only shows one CPU.
> 
> Does anyone know what my problem is, and how I can coach Linux to
> recognize my second COU.
> 
> All help gratefully received.
> 
> Andrew Tuson 
> 
> 




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Re: [newbie] Dual CPU Query

2002-04-13 Thread Jay

Mandrake comes with a smp kernel (multi processor kernel). Maybe give that a
try, see how it is setup, then try and emulate that. It may take longer to learn
it, but you will gain experience dealing with multiple CPU's. I haven't used a
dual CPU system so I don't really know, just an idea.



Quoting Andrew Tuson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> I have built a twin 1GHz P111 box, using an Abit VP6 motherboard.  I 
> installed Mandrake 8.2, and followed the HowTo to rebuild the kernel
> with multiprocessor support.
> 
> When the machine boots up, the initial boot screen shows that 2 CPUs
> are present, and using dmesg to view the Linux boot text I get the report:
> 
> Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.1
> Virtual Wire compatibility mode.
> OEM ID: OEM0 Product ID: PROD APIC at: 0xFEE0
> Processor #0 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17
> Processor #1 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17
> I/O APIC #2 Version 17 at 0xFEC0.
> Processors: 2
> 
> A liitle further down it shows the first processor being initialized, but
> not
> the second.
> 
> After logging in,
> 
> cat /proc/cpuinfo
> 
> only shows one CPU.
> 
> Does anyone know what my problem is, and how I can coach Linux to
> recognize my second COU.
> 
> All help gratefully received.
> 
> Andrew Tuson 
> 
> 




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Re: [newbie] I've Got Mail!!!! :-( can't answer it.

2002-04-13 Thread Robin Turner

On Saturday 13 April 2002 19:39, Franki wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I can't post, havent' been able to for months, I am a forced
> lurker.. my ISP's mail server is rejected by mandrakes mail
> server.
>
> My first thought was to subscribe my yahoo account to mandrake
> and NOT recieve the mail, but that got stopped dead because
> mandrake doesn't subscribe to allowing joining without getting
> the mail.. which is very strange..  (also strange is blocking
> email address's that had been active for over a year... the
> block should have been added for new subscriptions, not very old
> ones..
>
> the other thing that stopped that is that yahoo dont' do the pop
> and smtp mail for free now, they have changed to a subscription
> model.. I'll pay it if I have to, but the money would be better
> off in Mandrakes users club..
>
> Anyone got any other suggestions for me? and don't suggest
> webmail, there is no way I will do that on a dial up connection.

Why not just use sendmail instead of smtp?  

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RE: [newbie] I've Got Mail!!!! :-( can't answer it.

2002-04-13 Thread Bill Spatz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian York
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 11:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] I've Got Mail :-( can't answer it.


I use yahoo pop and smtp for my yahoo account and it works fine. I have used
it on Kmail and Evolution. I could never get it to work with outlook or
outlook express back in the day when i had to fool with low quality M$
products but thats in the past. I also have an E-Omninet account
http://eo.yifan.net (english version) the server for is (eo.yifan.net) for
pop and smtp. You migh want to try it and it will take a few days to get an
account but its worth the wait.

Brian

BUT..
On the 24th they're shutting off pop/smtp access unless you pay for it. This
is what he's getting at, otherwise, he'd use it.

FRANKI - send me a private email, I may have a solution for you.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bill Spatz

On Saturday 13 April 2002 12:39, Franki wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I can't post, havent' been able to for months, I am a forced
> lurker.. my ISP's mail server is rejected by mandrakes mail
> server.
>
> My first thought was to subscribe my yahoo account to mandrake
> and NOT recieve the mail, but that got stopped dead because
> mandrake doesn't subscribe to allowing joining without getting
> the mail.. which is very strange..  (also strange is blocking
> email address's that had been active for over a year... the
> block should have been added for new subscriptions, not very old
> ones..
>
> the other thing that stopped that is that yahoo dont' do the pop
> and smtp mail for free now, they have changed to a subscription
> model.. I'll pay it if I have to, but the money would be better
> off in Mandrakes users club..
>
> Anyone got any other suggestions for me? and don't suggest
> webmail, there is no way I will do that on a dial up connection.
>
>
> any thoughts
>
>
> rgds
>
> Frank
>
>
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[newbie] Dual CPU Query

2002-04-13 Thread Andrew Tuson


I have built a twin 1GHz P111 box, using an Abit VP6 motherboard.  I 
installed Mandrake 8.2, and followed the HowTo to rebuild the kernel
with multiprocessor support.

When the machine boots up, the initial boot screen shows that 2 CPUs
are present, and using dmesg to view the Linux boot text I get the report:

Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.1
Virtual Wire compatibility mode.
OEM ID: OEM0 Product ID: PROD APIC at: 0xFEE0
Processor #0 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17
Processor #1 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 17
I/O APIC #2 Version 17 at 0xFEC0.
Processors: 2

A liitle further down it shows the first processor being initialized, but not
the second.

After logging in,

cat /proc/cpuinfo

only shows one CPU.

Does anyone know what my problem is, and how I can coach Linux to
recognize my second COU.

All help gratefully received.

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Re: [newbie] I've Got Mail!!!! :-( can't answer it.

2002-04-13 Thread Brian York

I use yahoo pop and smtp for my yahoo account and it works fine. I have used 
it on Kmail and Evolution. I could never get it to work with outlook or 
outlook express back in the day when i had to fool with low quality M$ 
products but thats in the past. I also have an E-Omninet account 
http://eo.yifan.net (english version) the server for is (eo.yifan.net) for 
pop and smtp. You migh want to try it and it will take a few days to get an 
account but its worth the wait.

Brian


On Saturday 13 April 2002 12:39, Franki wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I can't post, havent' been able to for months, I am a forced
> lurker.. my ISP's mail server is rejected by mandrakes mail
> server.
>
> My first thought was to subscribe my yahoo account to mandrake
> and NOT recieve the mail, but that got stopped dead because
> mandrake doesn't subscribe to allowing joining without getting
> the mail.. which is very strange..  (also strange is blocking
> email address's that had been active for over a year... the
> block should have been added for new subscriptions, not very old
> ones..
>
> the other thing that stopped that is that yahoo dont' do the pop
> and smtp mail for free now, they have changed to a subscription
> model.. I'll pay it if I have to, but the money would be better
> off in Mandrakes users club..
>
> Anyone got any other suggestions for me? and don't suggest
> webmail, there is no way I will do that on a dial up connection.
>
>
> any thoughts
>
>
> rgds
>
> Frank
>
>
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[newbie] I've Got Mail!!!! :-( can't answer it.

2002-04-13 Thread Franki


Hi all, 

I can't post, havent' been able to for months, I am a forced
lurker.. my ISP's mail server is rejected by mandrakes mail
server. 

My first thought was to subscribe my yahoo account to mandrake
and NOT recieve the mail, but that got stopped dead because
mandrake doesn't subscribe to allowing joining without getting
the mail.. which is very strange..  (also strange is blocking
email address's that had been active for over a year... the
block should have been added for new subscriptions, not very old
ones..

the other thing that stopped that is that yahoo dont' do the pop
and smtp mail for free now, they have changed to a subscription
model.. I'll pay it if I have to, but the money would be better
off in Mandrakes users club..

Anyone got any other suggestions for me? and don't suggest
webmail, there is no way I will do that on a dial up connection.


any thoughts


rgds

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Re: [newbie] Reiser Question

2002-04-13 Thread shane

On Saturday 13 April 2002 01:45, Lyvim Xaphir opened a general hailing 
frequency and transmitted to all open stations:

> I read shane's treatise on raw modeing the keyboard and doing the buffer
> flushes.  What I think there is that if you have a system that you are
> experimenting with and is not performing important functions and storing
> any kind of data, then that's cool.  But if it's a production system
> that needs to be coming back after a crash, and then the filesystem
> requires a raw keyboard and buffer flushes in order to "better your
> odds", and given the fact that the FS is supposed to be protecting data
> in the first place, then that is unacceptable. A journaling FS's purpose
> is to recover from a crash.

very much in agreement, i only post it cause it worked for me the 2 times i 
have crashed..

i have to say, been running since 7.1 and i have less crashes in linux 
_ever_ than i had per week in windows.

in fact i am upset today cause it was looked this morning, and i don't know 
why.  that makes twice in 6 weeks!  baack when i was in windows all day 
twice in a 24 hour period was a celebration day..

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Re: [newbie] Stopping X

2002-04-13 Thread Brian York

Do i need to repeat my self i want my computer to start up normaly with 
graphical login. Downloading the xstat would be more trouble than just using 
the terminal login and typing xstart.




On Friday 12 April 2002 23:27, civileme wrote:
> Brian York wrote:
> >Does anyone know how to shutdown x windows after it is started. I can
> > change the login in but 98 percent of the time i want to start x anyway
> >
> >Thanks
> >Brian
> >
> >_
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Well go to www.civileme.com
>
> Open the "Software" folder
>
> Download Xtart  (not the rpms, just the simple file)
>
> Read it over if you like--the file is text.
>
> Save it at /usr/bin/Xtart
>
> Now set your runlevel to 3 using Mandrake Control Center, and reboot.
>
> You will come up in console--just login as your normal user name.
>
> Type "Xtart" without the quotes.
>
> You will get a menu of all X window managers installed on your system.
>
> If you type in a single 0, X will start WITHOUT a window manager, just a
> single xterm (you can use things that don't start X from there. like
> 'startkde').
>
> If you type in any other string of characters, the first match of in the
> left column will be selected
>
> e.g. Type 'En' without quotes and it will match
>
> 04Enlightenment
>
> or use '04' if you prefer.
>
> Now you are running in X--you can stop at any time by ctrl-alt-backspace
> or by logging out in the normal way.
>
> Of course, if you just want a console, you can use ctrl-alt-Fx where x
> is between 2 and 6 (yes the numbered function Key) and you will be in
> console with X running on ctrl-alt-F7  (It launches from the console at
> ctrl-alt-F1, so I don't recommend using that).
>
> Civileme


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Re: [newbie] Sound card problems

2002-04-13 Thread Frans Ketelaars

On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 12:24:38 GMT
Matt Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi, I've just installed 8.2 but am generally new to Linux having only 
> used Redmond Linux before. During setup my soundcard wasn't configured 
> properly and the setup told me to run sndconfig later on. So i did that 
> and the ISAPNP Probe Results found my sound card: 
> 
> Model: Crystal Codec:GAME 
> 
> The first sound card test was ok and i heard the sample sound fine. But 
> when it did the second sound card test for the MIDI sample it returned: 
> 
> modprobe error 
> The following error occurred running the modprobe program: 
> /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/opl3.o.gz: 
> init_module: No such device

Well, the opl3 device was not found by the opl3 module ;)
 
> modprobe: insmod 
> /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/opl3.o.gz failed 
> modprobe: insmod synth0 failed 

Yes, it's about a FM synthesizer for MIDI. But Timidity (on your CD's)
can play MIDI just fine (in fact the sound quality of the opl3 based MIDI
synthesizer is rather bad AFAIK).
 
> It offered me the chance to do all the setting manually, but i don't know 
> what they are. So my questions are: what does the above error mean and if 
> i have to set it up manually then how do i find all the settings for it?

'cat /proc/isapnp' _may_ give you some ideas. It's possible sndconfig made
a mistake and shouldn't have tried to load the opl3 module
 
> Also, the strange thing is that for the rest of the session after i have 
> run this, the sound card works fine, so i know it works ok, but then i 
> have to run sndconfig again next time i log in, which is quite often at 
> the moment as my modem is not supported yet, but thats another story!!

You can check with '/sbin/lsmod' which modules (drivers) are loaded. Let us
know. I think sndconfig loaded a driver for your card, then tried to load the
opl3 module which failed. Because of that sndconfig didn't add the necessary
lines to the /etc/modules.conf file.

> Cheers in advance and thanks to all the mandrake people for a cool distro
> 
> Matt

HTH,

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Re: OT: Games working with TransGaming (was Re: [newbie]officiallym s free)

2002-04-13 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

> Hey Ron,
> 
> I just got off of battle.net with Diablo and the LoD expansion pack.
> Played for 2 hours.  :)
> 
> Just thought you might be interested.
> 
> L8R,
> 
> LX

Hey, that is great news! ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Conextant HSF modem on LM 8.2

2002-04-13 Thread Carroll Grigsby

On Saturday 13 April 2002 03:07 am, ivan wrote:
> Hi all,
>   Any one using Conextant HSF modem  with LM 8.2 ?.I down loaded the drivers
> from conextant website and tried to install the RPM.When i say hsfconfig,i
> get a message saying that there is no pre-build HSF modules available for
> you exact kernal and then tries to re-compile  with the C compiler and
> gives an error .Below is the message i get...
> anybody can help me...
>
> Linux HSF softmodem drivers, version 4.06.06.02
>
> No pre-built HSF modules are available for your exact kernel:
> Linux-2.4.18-6mdk-i686-Mandrake-8.2-MODVERS
>
> Assuming that a C compiler and proper kernel header files are present
> on your system, we will now attempt to re-compile the modules.
>
> Where is the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?
> [/lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/build]
>
> Re-compiling HSF modules for kernel 2.4.18-6mdk, using source directory
> /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/build. Please wait..
>
> ERROR: Module re-compilation and installation failed!
> Please examine the log file "/tmp/hsfconfig-recomp.log.4171" to determine
> why.

Ivan:
Take a look at this site: www.mbsi.ca/cnxtlindrv/
I'm not sure if this will help you with your compiling problem, but he does 
appear to have the latest and greatest information on Conexant modems -- both 
HCF and HSF.
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Re: [newbie] Apache server not in browse list

2002-04-13 Thread John Bodden

On Saturday 13 April 2002 12:56 am, you wrote:
I cant believe that I wrote apache when I meant samba. I had been setting up 
apache that morning and then wrote that message . I guess I still had apache 
on the brain. Proofread dammit :)

> Actually, this would be samba, not apache, since apache is a web server
> only, not a file-sharing program like samba.
>
> Most likely, the problem is occuring because your windows machine and your
> linux machine are not in the same workgroup or domain.
>
> If they aren't, windows won't see the linux box directly in Network
> Neighborhood -- you'd have to either select "Entire Network" and then
> select the other workgroup / domain, or make sure the domains match.
>
> Michael

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Re: [newbie] mpg321

2002-04-13 Thread Robin Turner

On Saturday 13 April 2002 15:55, Jesper Nyholm Jensen wrote:
> Hi,
> I wanted to install mpg321 so I did
>
>   $ rpm -i mpg321-0.2.10-1.i386.rpm
>
> which results in the response
>
>   error: failed dependencies:
>   libid3tag.so.0   is needed by mpg321-0.2.10-1
>   libmad.so.0   is needed by mpg321-0.2.10-1 .
>
> So, what to do?

Use urpmi instead of plain rpm.  This will attempt to install the 
necessary dependencies from your CD or FTP source.  If you still 
don't have them, do a search for the libraries on rpmfind.net, or try 
an older version of mpg321.

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Re: [newbie] Good News and BAD News - '/home' less - FIXED

2002-04-13 Thread Terry Smith

Thanks for the tip. I nosed around for several hours on the HOWTO's
mini-HOWTOs, the Red Hat site, a couple of ext3 sites, etc. and got
nowhere. Recovering deleted files is a possibility (there's a program
'recover' but its pretty tedious...uses debugfs...and only works on ext2
fs's). The EXT3 filesystem seems to be a strange beast. Some utilities
that work on EXT2 systems will access EXT3 files, some won't. 

In any case there's a program 'e2fsck', part of the e2fsprogs, that
apparently did the trick. The directory was never erased (which is what
I thought...see my first message) but the filesystem must have been
corrupted during the copy. (BTW, in my perusal of the 'literature' I
found a number of folks with ext3 file corruption problems and inability
to recover.)

You have to run it thus:
"e2fsck -fy /dev/hdXX" where the 'f' forces the check and 'y' makes the
check non-interactive.

All the files are there and I'm a happy camper!

Bottom line: don't get into the box I did...back up first.


Terry Smith
Cape Cod USA

On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 08:29, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
> file:/usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/ref.html/ts-deleted-files-recovery.html
> 
> It's about ext2, but since ext3 is build upon ext2 IIUC _maybe_ it's of 
> some use. Good luck!
> 
> On 11 Apr 2002 21:11:54 -0400
> Terry Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Short ver.: Any way to recover a deleted directory on a ext3 partition?
> > 
> > Details: Although I've remained subscribed to this list, over the last 6
> > weeks I've been running a RH 7.2 distro off of my hdb drive. BOO!
> > 
> > Last night, after downloading the new Mandrake 8.2 and burning 3 cds I
> > installed 8.2 on my hda (sharing with windows). As customary I did a
> > 'clean install' but didn't reformat my /home directory (on hda).
> > 
> > Installation went perfect, everything's configured, the new CUPS not
> > only recognized my printer (HP Officejet) but recognized and installed
> > software for the built-in scanner. YAY!
> > 
> > But all my personal files, emails, downloads, tarballs, rpms and other
> > goodies I've picked up over the last month are over on the hdb /home
> > directory. 
> > 
> > I had backed up the /etc directory on hda (the old drive with Mandrake
> > 8.1) but didn't backup /home on hdb as I didn't have any intention of
> > overwriting it, moving it, etc. BAD!
> > 
> > So now happily playing with my new 8.2 I figure I better access all my
> > /home files on hdb. I modify /etc/fstab to pick up the hdb2 partition
> > but name it 'rh_one'. I mkdir 'rh_one', do the mount and everything's
> > there. YAY!
> > 
> > Now things go downhill. I decide I want to rename the dir 'rh_one' to
> > 'rh_home' so I use the mv command. It apparently copies everything from
> > rh_one to rh_home. I check 'rh_home'. Everything looks OK. I do a 'rmdir
> > rh_one'. BOO! All the files that were on hdb /home are gone!
> > 
> > I guess if someone could tell me where I went wrong I'd appreciate it.
> > But the real question is "Can I recover the directory"? I was using the
> > ext3 journaling filesystem so I would think that there is some
> > possibility, but frankly don't have a clue on how to proceed.
> > 
> > I've got a backup that's a couple of weeks old and there's nothing
> > hugely important but it would sure be nice to have those files back.
> > 
> > Can it be done?
> > 
> > TIA.
> > 
> > '/home' less in Cape Cod USA
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> -Frans
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] Stopping X

2002-04-13 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:24:52 -0400
"Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled intuitively:

>Brian York wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone know how to shutdown x windows after it is started. I can
>> change the login in but 98 percent of the time i want to start x anyway
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Brian
>
>Hi Brian. I'm a little confused as to what you want to do here, but if
>its just quitting out of your Xserver, back to the command line, then:
>
>  
>
>will do it... ;-)
===

But if he's in runlevel 5 to begin with, he'll just restart the x server
with the above.

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[newbie] mpg321

2002-04-13 Thread Jesper Nyholm Jensen

Hi,
I wanted to install mpg321 so I did

  $ rpm -i mpg321-0.2.10-1.i386.rpm

which results in the response

  error: failed dependencies:
  libid3tag.so.0   is needed by mpg321-0.2.10-1
  libmad.so.0   is needed by mpg321-0.2.10-1 .

So, what to do?
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[newbie] Sound card problems

2002-04-13 Thread Matt Blake

Hi, I've just installed 8.2 but am generally new to Linux having only 
used Redmond Linux before. During setup my soundcard wasn't configured 
properly and the setup told me to run sndconfig later on. So i did that 
and the ISAPNP Probe Results found my sound card: 

Model: Crystal Codec:GAME 

The first sound card test was ok and i heard the sample sound fine. But 
when it did the second sound card test for the MIDI sample it returned: 

modprobe error 
The following error occurred running the modprobe program: 
/lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/opl3.o.gz: 
init_module: No such device 
modprobe: insmod 
/lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/opl3.o.gz failed 
modprobe: insmod synth0 failed 

It offered me the chance to do all the setting manually, but i don't know 
what they are. So my questions are: what does the above error mean and if 
i have to set it up manually then how do i find all the settings for it?

Also, the strange thing is that for the rest of the session after i have 
run this, the sound card works fine, so i know it works ok, but then i 
have to run sndconfig again next time i log in, which is quite often at 
the moment as my modem is not supported yet, but thats another story!!

Cheers in advance and thanks to all the mandrake people for a cool distro

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[newbie] Dual Mandrake Boot Setup Query

2002-04-13 Thread Michael

As my first ever Linux install would not work under the default patitions that
the installer was trying, i made one partition for my whole ML7.1 install, i.e.
hdb5 = "/" (hdb1 = "swap", i couldn't get them to go the other way round). I
have done a lot of learning on this first install and i am comfortable that i
want to move up. I now want to dual boot 7.1 with 8.2. I have 8GB of FAT32 (D:
drive in Windows) on hda5 that i intend to make 8.2 happily at home in once
repartitioned. I don't want to break what i have working well, till i have 8.2
working better.

Apparently they should share a common /boot partition.

My question therefore: Do i need to reinstall my 7.1 to create a separate /boot
first or can i tack 8.2 on to what i already have to give me the dual boot i
want (triple boot with windows)?

Man i have learned so much in the last year or so... but i am still so green at
this.

TIA
Michael
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Re: [newbie] CDROM Files and tar command

2002-04-13 Thread Brian Parish

You first need to mount it.  If you have supermount working this is just
a matter of clicking on the CDROM icon that's probably on your desktop. 
If not, or if this desn't work:

1. start a console
2. become root
3. type "mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom"
4. now the files on your cd are on /mnt/cdrom

You can now use tar to decompress them as you would off a hard drive.

The supermount problem means that some of the above may not work. 
/dev/cdrom may not exist etc. etc.  Best thing is to try first and ask
again if something seems broken.

HTH
Brian

On Sat, 2002-04-13 at 20:35, Ellen Slater wrote:
> I have a CDROM with tar.gz files that I would like to decompress into my home 
>directory.
> How can you view the files on a CDROM?
> 
> 
> 
> 





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Re: [newbie] /dev/dvd

2002-04-13 Thread Gerard van Winssen

Oder wrote:

> HradDrake sees my DVD in a toshiba notebook  with DVD-ROM/CD-RW as hdc; dmesg 
> | grep hd showed hdc, but nothing is telling to xine and the rest of the OS 
> that /dev/dvd even exists. I pointed the dvd drive with ln -s /dev/hdc/ 
> /dev/dvd but does not work. The standard CD-RW works fine. How to I fix this? 
> Any help would be really appreciate. Thanks in advance, Oder. 

Let me guess, You are using MDK 8.1?
I had this problem as well.
My solution was to upgrade the kernel, I think it had something to do 
with the broken devfs.

On the mandrakesecure website there's a document called "the black magic 
of kernel upgrading".
This is a good document for tis purpose.

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SOLVED: Re: [newbie] X server won't run

2002-04-13 Thread Marco Verheul

Brian,

Thanks!! Running XFdrake did the trick quick and smoothly. No need to
re-install or upgrade.

On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 03:43, Brian Parish wrote:
> Marco,
> 
> Sounds like more than a resolution problem, but you can try resetting
it
> by logging in as root and running XFdrake from the console.
> 
> Good luck with it and if it doesn't work, try booting from the install
> CD, select Expert and Upgrade and select no additional packages to
> install.  That should sort you out and no data will be lost.
> 
> HTH
> Brian
Your comment on upgrading might come in handy later on.

Regards, 
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[newbie] CDROM Files and tar command

2002-04-13 Thread Ellen Slater



I have a CDROM with tar.gz files that I would like 
to decompress into my home directory.
How can you view the files on a 
CDROM?
 
 
 
 


Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade

2002-04-13 Thread Danny Luker

Charles,

I ran the 'make distclean' prior to 'make xconfig' as you suggested and BAM! 
... Working kernel!  Thanks!  I still have some config issues I'm dealing 
with but it is very nice to see the 'Uncompressing kernel image ... ' message 
on boot of my shiney new kernel.

Thanks!
Danny

On Thursday 11 April 2002 09:54 pm, you wrote:
> Danny Luker wrote:
> > Hi Charles and thanks for your reply
> >
> > On Thursday 11 April 2002 04:22 pm, you wrote:
> > > K Montgomery wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 22:24, Danny Luker wrote:
> > > > > My first post to this list!
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm running Mandrake 8.1 with rieserfs on a 256MB  AMD K6 clocking
> > > > > 350 MHz (older machine) and all is well.   I just purchased a Sharp
> > > > > Zaurus SL5500 and much to my disappointment it does not talk to my
> > > > > Linux box. I have spent all day trying to upgrade to the 2.4.18
> > > > > kernel so I can use the usbdnet patch to make things right with my
> > > > > Zaurus.  No joy however.  I followed the README that came with the
> > > > > 2.4.18 source download.
> > >
> > > DO you not need a 'make mrproper or make distclean' defore 'make
> > > xconfig'??
> > > Charles
> >
> > I don't know if I do or not.  This was not mentioned in the README or the
> > HOWTO's I'm working from.  I don't know what these commands do.   Is this
> > Mandrake specific or just one of those things that differenciates a
> > newbie like me from real Linux gurus?  ;)
> >
> > Do I need to do that... I'll try it and see what happens.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Danny
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> > 
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> Danny I am no guru!! But if you do a google search on compiling the
> kernel you will find lots of info on the subject. They (maybe) all say
> do a 'make mrproper'. One article says use 'make distclean'. That
> article said distclean deletes one more file than mrproper. I have no
> idea what that file does. Either command works for me. After a new
> kernel compile the new kernel will not work for me if I do not do either
> mrproper or distclean!!!
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Re: [newbie] LILO

2002-04-13 Thread Sevatio

boot up with your LILO floppy and then get into a console as SU and run 
the command "lilo".



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Can someone tell me how to reinstall/reload the LILO boot loader.  
> 
> I think that when I did the OS install it corrupted the boot loader not sure
> though.
> 
> When booting the computer up, I get to point where it is trying to go past
> the part where it tries to load from the floppy drive and boot the system.
> At this point I am getting 
> 
> 01 01 01 01 01 01 all the way across the screen in a continual loop.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] sound issues in Mandrake 8.2

2002-04-13 Thread Sevatio

You may not want ALSA to be running nor would you want it to start at 
boot time since the OSS drivers are there for sound already.  Use 
Mandrake Control Centre to affect the changes to ALSA.

Brian Koppe wrote:
> Hi. I'm a bit new to Linux - just installed Mandrake 8.2 a few days ago. 
> However, I have some sound problems.  Some sounds sound excellent - I 
> installed KDE3 and the system sounds for minimize, maximize, etc (which 
> I wish I knew how to change or turn off) sound fine, but sounds in GAIM 
> and other WAV files sound crackly with a LOT of distortion in the 
> beginning of them.  One of my friends who has been using Linux for 
> awhile says it probably has something to do with the ALSA drivers.  I 
> have onboard sound on my motherboard.  He has onboard sound as well but 
> just turned it off rather than fix it.  I'm more picky however.  Can 
> anyone help me get good sound?
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] alsa is already running

2002-04-13 Thread Sevatio

run Mandrake Control Centre and control your system services there.  You 
can uncheck it so that it doesn't startup at boot time.

F. McKenna wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I just replaced my Matrox Mystique video card with a Radeon.
> 
> As the subject line says it appears that a cople of instances of ALSA
> aappears to try to be running.
> 
> Does anyone know the command line to cancel this or which file that I would
> have to edit?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Frank McKenna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] Reiser Question

2002-04-13 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 14:56, Jussi Aalto wrote:

> I have experienced a couple of TOTAL lockups too and survived them even 
> though had to do master reset. I waited for a while before resetting 
> hoping that the system wasn't too busy so it could write some of the 
> buffers back to disk (if it makes any difference, I'm not sure, someone 
> correct me if I'm wrong).

I'm glad to see that someone else is getting the same experience that I
have been with ext3. :)

And btw, this is off the topic, but this system really makes my XP
buddies look like they are in the dark ages.  They are still getting
blue screens, filesystem blowouts, and loads of viruses.  I had an XP
bud over here the other day, and I played Diablo2 for a long time under
LM81 with no crashes.  Ran smoother with no snags, too.  He and his
suitemates can't say that; in fact he eventually turned green and asked
me to quit the demo. ;)  In fact I have a 98 system here that was just
installed fresh; it's had the registry cleaned, debugged, and it was a
98Lite installation.  

With all that clean, I could play at best for three hours at the most,
before some kind of invisible memory leak stops or crashes the system. 
By comparison, D2Lod has NEVER (knock on wood) crashed on this LM81
system.  Combine that with the amount of time that ext3 has saved in
filesystem maintenance as compared to 98 or XP, and you've got a very,
very substantial time savings.  The productivity power of a properly
installed Linux system and ext3 is incomparable.
 
> Filesystem is ext3 and has worked nicely. After reset the system just 
> checked the disk(s) and fixed whatever had to be fixed and up he(she?) 
> was again. It may be that something got lost but the important thing for 
> me is that the system is up and running and if errors occur I could try 
> to fix them. Anyway, what I tried to say was that if the keyb and mouse 
> die, it doesn't always mean that the whole system is dead. So next time 
> when the system freezes, spend few minutes doing something else and after 
> that you can play with the R-button.

I read shane's treatise on raw modeing the keyboard and doing the buffer
flushes.  What I think there is that if you have a system that you are
experimenting with and is not performing important functions and storing
any kind of data, then that's cool.  But if it's a production system
that needs to be coming back after a crash, and then the filesystem
requires a raw keyboard and buffer flushes in order to "better your
odds", and given the fact that the FS is supposed to be protecting data
in the first place, then that is unacceptable. A journaling FS's purpose
is to recover from a crash.
 
> Now about the filesystems, what I've been reading is that Reiser and XFS 
> are at their best in servers and since the writer of that article knows 
> Linux a lot better than me, I believe him and stick to ext3.
> 
> IDKITHABSIA
> Cheers,
> J.

Thanks for the post,

LX

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Re: OT: Games working with TransGaming (was Re: [newbie]officiallym s free)

2002-04-13 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 10:40, Ronald J. Hall wrote:

> Hey there! Well, I can't quite get Starcraft to do Bnet just yet. I can
> connect, but the fonts in the menus' goes South (or some other obscure
> direction!) Anyways, there are supposed to be a lot of Bnet bug fixes in the
> upcoming Winex 2.0 release (as well as Directx 8.x support) so hopefully these
> issues will be resolved. Note that as of the 1.09 patch, networking under
> Starcraft does work (TCP/IP, not IPX). Cool eh? ;-)
> 


>/\
>Dark>\/
> 

Hey Ron,

I just got off of battle.net with Diablo and the LoD expansion pack. 
Played for 2 hours.  :)

Just thought you might be interested.


L8R,

LX



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[newbie] Gyertek el!

2002-04-13 Thread Tóth András


 

 
Tisztelt levelezõ partnerem!
Dear Penfriend,
This letter is for my Hungarian friends, but I'll send it 
to everybody I've ever met, thanks.
Az országunknak szüksége van ránk, kérlek jelenjünk meg 
szombaton 3 órakor a Kossuth téren, mutassuk meg a vidéknek, hogy nem maradtak 
egyedül a választás második fordulójában!
 


Re: [newbie] Window manager command

2002-04-13 Thread Tóth András



Hogyan tudom lemondani az előfizetést
How can I chancel this subcription

Please send your answer to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bye for now...


- Original Message -
From: "Baka Attila Tamás" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 3:41 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Window manager command


Sorry.. I didn't read carefully enough.

To change the DEFAULT, you have to start the mandrake Control Center and in
the bootup and initalisation part simply change the default...

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 3:30 PM
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Subject: RE: [newbie] Window manager command


press ctrl+alt+backspace

it will put you into the login screen where you can change...

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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 3:21 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Window manager command


Hi,

Can any of you tell me what the command is to change your default window
manager?  Please don't tell me to modify any files.  I know there is a
command I've used before, but can't remember what it is...  Someone said to
try switchdesk, but that doesn't work on my mdk 8.1 box... Thanks!




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