Re: [newbie] Samba is not working in 8.2
On Monday 13 May 2002 7:23 am, Beastie wrote: > Hi, > > I've just installed new 8.2 from Linux Format DVD. > > My machine is a Pentium II 350MHz that I would like to install as > Firewall/Router > DNS Server > SMB server (File Server for networked Windows machines) > Print Server. > > I used to have another machine running Windows 2000 Server that served the > above purposes, the problem was that the machine was constantly under > attack and in the end was defeated and became unusable. > > I hope that by installing Linux, I could get away with some of the problems > I was facing. > > After installing 8.2 I setup DNS and Firewall, these work fine. But not > Samba, I can see the Samba server when browse Network Neighbourhood only > when I click to open this server the error was "Network path not found". > > I tried to set system security to lower level, thinking that these might be > the problem but to no avail. > > What can I do now ? Well first you made a good choice when you decided to switch to Linux :-) Two suggestions 1/ Are you trying to run Samba through the 'protected' interface on your Firewall? If so you need to poke a few holes in it for Samba. This article tells you how to do it on the command line http://www.mandrakeforum.org/article.php?sid=1467&lang=en If you install the InteractiveBastille pack you can get a little GUI to do the configuration for you. 2/ Did you configure any directories for Samba to share? An easy way to set up Samba is to use Webmin. Install webmin rpm and then in a browser on the local or a remote computer enter https://hostname_or_IP_address:1 (Note https not http) Also Samba must know about the Windows username/passwords which are allowed to access directories. Again you can set this up with webmin. If you prefer a command line setup then just read the samba config file /etc/samba/smb.conf It contains lots of example configurations you can just uncomment. HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Samba is not working in 8.2
Hi, I've just installed new 8.2 from Linux Format DVD. My machine is a Pentium II 350MHz that I would like to install as Firewall/Router DNS Server SMB server (File Server for networked Windows machines) Print Server. I used to have another machine running Windows 2000 Server that served the above purposes, the problem was that the machine was constantly under attack and in the end was defeated and became unusable. I hope that by installing Linux, I could get away with some of the problems I was facing. After installing 8.2 I setup DNS and Firewall, these work fine. But not Samba, I can see the Samba server when browse Network Neighbourhood only when I click to open this server the error was "Network path not found". I tried to set system security to lower level, thinking that these might be the problem but to no avail. What can I do now ?
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
Well finally have my Mandrake 8.1 back up and running with the Reiser FS file system installed. Seems to run fast enough for me.(no noticable difference from ext2). Thanks for all the input..I feel better knowing that this is a more stable fs to use. Learned a little doing the expert install for mandrake.. when you select the file type you have to choose "type---i think" and scroll down to reiser fs seems to work fine... I was also able to make my windows partition MUCH smaller than before = when using the recommended option. .. Making the windows partition just under 2 gig leaving me about 8 gig to play with linux on :) whee!!! Thanks again, Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Configuring AC-97 sound
Heyo, I need to configure AC-97 sound for my MSI KT3 Ultra motherboard. Unfortunately HardDrake doesn't know that the ALC650 chip by Realtek is supported by the AC97 sound driver, and didn't install any sound. If someone could walk me through how to set this up I'd greatly appreciate it. Nelson Bartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
Charlie wrote: > > One final note: on this machine with the MDK 8.1 Standard Edition box set I > purchased; the included version of Reiser FS was so slow in performance that > it drove me nearly insane. I actually got so frustrated that I re-installed > it using the "Linux Native" ext2. > -- > Charlie in Edmonton, AB, Canada > Mandrake 8.2 > user 244963 at http://counter.li.org > Charlie can you mail me off-list Please? Ty. -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] getting a pop server going
Why would you need a virus stripper for a linux system. I have never heard of a linux system getting infected from email, now if you your talking about a mail server for ms machines that another story. - Original Message - From: "Brian Parish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] getting a pop server going > Thanks Gerald, > > It was on and working. Control Center just confuses the issue by > showing it as off. I guess this must be seen as a bug - certainly not > useful info! > > Once more it proves that the console is king! > > So I now have fetchmail happening and pop popping - time to put some > virus stripping in the middle and see how much I can screw it up ;-) > > thanks again > Brian > > On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 18:32, Gerald Waugh wrote: > > On Friday 10 May 2002 01:18 am, Brian Parish wrote: > > > I need to set up a simple mail system using fetchmail, procmail and > > > pop. Fetchmail is fetching happily. I've installed imap. I can see pop > > > on my list of services under Control Center, but it's an xinetd > > > service. Where do I go to configure and start it? I'll keep reading, > > > but if anyone can give me a quick boot in the right direction... > > > > Try the old fashon method: > > In a shell session run > >chkconfig --lists | grep pop > > You will see ipop3 [ on or off ] > > to turn it on run > >chkconfig ipop3 on > > then reload xinetd > >/etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd reload > > > > -- > > Gerald Waugh > > http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com :: Phone. [011] 203.785.0699 > > Front Street Networks LLC | SOHO Networks & Web Site Hosting > > 229 Front Street, Ste. #C, New Haven, CT, 06513-3203 United States > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: FIXED! [expert] access to CD-RW
On Mon, 13 May 2002 09:44:14 -0400 David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Brian Schroeder said onto me: > | Would dd successfully copy an unmounted windows partition to a new hd? > > Doesn't a partition need to be mounted for one to be able to access it at all? > > i i'm quite sure dd is capable of making an exact copy of an unmounted partition. you have to specify the "if" patameter to the block device containing the file system. for example dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/some-other-hd it should work. HTH Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Print pdf multiple page on single sheet?
On Sun, 12 May 2002 22:14:53 +0100, Wei Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > How to set the parameters of lpr in printing pdf file with multiple pages on a > > single sheet?(Not duplex, I mean 2 logical pages on one side for example). > > I could only find help on ps file, text file, dvi file. No such support was > found via the net. > > Surely there are tools such as xpdf and ghostview. But neither has fancy > printing graphical interface such as the one provided in Windows. > > Could anyone tell me how to do this with simple command line lpr? Install the xpp package, then whenever you need to use lpr use xpp instead. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "There are two kinds of security problems. The first kind arises where people are too stupid for words. Outlook is a petri dish. I don't know why anyone uses it." -- James Gosling, lead engineer and architect of Java at Sun Microsystems Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Screen problem I8100 +ATI Radeon + 1600x1200 +Mandrake 8.2
Hi, I had my machine working ok with mandrake 8.1 but now, with LM 8.2 I get a crashed screen if I do not add an Option "noaccel" in XF86config-4 Even with that option in the screen is slow and has waves as I move windows around etc. The problem is particularly noticeable with scrolling in Mozilla, but it happens everywhere. Has anyone got this combination to work? I8100 +ATI Radeon + 1600x1200 +Mandrake 8.2 if so could i please see your XF86config-4 I have spent a lot of time trying to learn how to fix my problem As i am a newbie - could someone give me a few pointers on the following: ** As it worked on Mandrake 8.1 (it worked both before and after I upgraded XFree86 to 4.2) it should all work on 8.2 - or is there something in the kernel or modules that might make this not so? ** I can't get harddrake to work - so is there some other way to really see what is happening to the way the ATI video card is installed? Could that be it? ** As i have a screen working with "noaccel" is it the lack of hardware acceleration that is causing the strange and slow screen? Why would it work without the "noaccel" option in 8.1. What is the difference with acceleration? ** There are a couple of new lines in my XFConfig-4 Section "Module" which were not in my old one Load"v4l" Load"glx" Load"dri" Without all three I think the problem is a little worse - I am still experimenting with various combinations. I presume the modules need to be installed for them to work - does it matter if they are not? How can i check all this? ** Are there specific help files or websites i should be exploring? Thanks. PS Please send a copy of any replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as my usual address is bouncing mail due to an ISP problem, this should be ok in 24hrs. The archives not instantly updated. -- Walter Logeman Psychotherapist http://www.psybernet.co.nz Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar file size limit???
Brian Parish wrote: > OK - wondered why my reply to this hadn't shown up then realized the > reply to address was set to go back to David direct. The problem here > is that /mnt/TRASH-BOX (nice mount point!) is /mnt/W$ - meaning FAT32. > FAT32 has a max file size of 2GB. So does ext2, which has annoyed me on more than one occasion. Does XFS or ReiserFS have this limitation? BTW I also found out by accident that, while NTFS allows files larger than 2G, you can't access them from Linux. ls displays the correct size, but any program that attempts actually to *open* the file treats it as though it has size zero. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] getting a pop server going
Thanks Gerald, It was on and working. Control Center just confuses the issue by showing it as off. I guess this must be seen as a bug - certainly not useful info! Once more it proves that the console is king! So I now have fetchmail happening and pop popping - time to put some virus stripping in the middle and see how much I can screw it up ;-) thanks again Brian On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 18:32, Gerald Waugh wrote: > On Friday 10 May 2002 01:18 am, Brian Parish wrote: > > I need to set up a simple mail system using fetchmail, procmail and > > pop. Fetchmail is fetching happily. I've installed imap. I can see pop > > on my list of services under Control Center, but it's an xinetd > > service. Where do I go to configure and start it? I'll keep reading, > > but if anyone can give me a quick boot in the right direction... > > Try the old fashon method: > In a shell session run >chkconfig --lists | grep pop > You will see ipop3 [ on or off ] > to turn it on run >chkconfig ipop3 on > then reload xinetd >/etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd reload > > -- > Gerald Waugh > http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com :: Phone. [011] 203.785.0699 > Front Street Networks LLC | SOHO Networks & Web Site Hosting > 229 Front Street, Ste. #C, New Haven, CT, 06513-3203 United States > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] UPDATE Can't even get beyond user name!!!
we have been dyeing for a real problem around here,, otherwise we would not digress to guns and roses and politics. On Sunday 12 May 2002 07:16 pm, you wrote: > Hi, > > Sunday, May 12, 2002, 10:52:35 PM, you wrote: > > d> I'm not being insulting here (I've not been following this thread - > sorry!) d> but are you fairly new to Linux? If so, just keep posting/asking > questions, d> we'll help you all we can! ;-) > > Short answer ... yes, a newbie in nappies. Windows and Mac easy, Linux > learning from ground up. > > I think the last few posts from some very helpful individuals have > cracked it. It's very obvious stuff when you know ... but when you > don't know what you need to know, a bit trickier ;-) > > I will try to 'startx' and tell you what happens. > > With best wishes, > > Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
Marcia, I have seen some replies to this, but don't think any of them have yet touched on a crucial point: Your laptop is running W98, so would therefore be much more safely disposed sitting behind your linux box in internet terms. Does the laptop have an ethernet port, or can it be added? If so, to my mind the best scenario would be for the laptop to be connected to the linux machine via ethernet - just a crossover cable between the two would do this. Then you set up internet connection sharing and firewall on the linux box. Add samba and you have the laptop able to share the cable connection from behind a firewall, and move files/share printers between the two machines. Assuming that neither box has a network card (as you indicated the cable modem is connected via USB), total cost for this would be almost nothing for a NIC for the desktop and somewhat more for the laptop. Like my budgeting? I have no idea what is available for the laptop, but you can probably get a PCMCIA NIC for it. HTH Brian On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 06:41, Marcia wrote: > Dear All, > > I have a desktop with LM8.2 that is connected to a cable modem through a > cable wire and a laptop with Win98 that can work with cable also or with a > dial-up modem. The cable modem is a Toshiba DOCSIS that also can be hooked up > through USB. My laptop has USB so I was wondering if I could hook it up to > the cable modem through the USB hook-up so that I could share the internet > and network between the laptop and desktop? Does anyone have any ideas how I > may set this up? Thanks. > > Sincerely, > > Marcia > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Setting default web browser
On Mon, 2002-05-13 at 00:27, Gerald Waugh wrote: > On Sunday 12 May 2002 10:18 am, Gerald Waugh wrote: > > On Sunday 12 May 2002 10:07 am, Gerald Waugh wrote: > > > Try > > > > > > KDE-Start->Configuration->KDE->FileBrowsing->File Associations > > > > Sorry, that didn't work ( looked like it might ) > > Ok, after attempting again, it is now working > > -- > Gerald Waugh Hmmm, but not for me. That gets me to the same settings as going thru the KDE control center (not surprisingly). Mozilla is not on the list, but that's what starts. Maybe I should learn to like it ;-) Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Setting default web browser
On Mon, 2002-05-13 at 00:12, shane wrote: > On Sunday 12 May 2002 06:38, Brian Parish opened a general hailing frequency > and transmitted to all open stations: > > > Well to be precise - Control > File browsing > File associations > text > > > > > HTML the browser listed first (at the top) is Galeon. In fact I > > > > tried taking Mozilla out of the list completely. Still get Mozilla. > > wow, that is cool. does galeon run from the command line? if you choose an > html file and right click and open with does galeon work then? > > lemme play around a bit, but i fear you have me stumped, we will ahve to let > someone who knows something join in here.. :) > > shane Yep, galeon runs from the command line and from the "open with" method. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] UPDATE Can't even get beyond user name!!!
Hi, Sunday, May 12, 2002, 10:52:35 PM, you wrote: d> I'm not being insulting here (I've not been following this thread - sorry!) d> but are you fairly new to Linux? If so, just keep posting/asking questions, d> we'll help you all we can! ;-) Short answer ... yes, a newbie in nappies. Windows and Mac easy, Linux learning from ground up. I think the last few posts from some very helpful individuals have cracked it. It's very obvious stuff when you know ... but when you don't know what you need to know, a bit trickier ;-) I will try to 'startx' and tell you what happens. With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer & Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 100666 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] UPDATE Can't even get beyond user name!!!
On Sunday 12 May 2002 05:21 pm, you wrote: > Hi Ed, > > >> Dave, when you get the text screen don't do anything, wait a minute and > >> it should continue to boot to the graphical login screen. > >> That text screen is not the last thing to pop up. Give it a minute and > >> see what happens. HTH > > Ok ... gave several minutes, made a cup of tea, gave a few more and > decided this wasn't the problem. Thanks 'tho. > > e> its also worth noting that you may not see any "return" or "echo" of > some e> digits when you login with the password. just type it correctly and > hit e> ehter. > > Yes, I have got this far and after entering user and pass I get this: > > [condyk@localhost condyk]$ > > What does this mean? > > I then wait a further several minutes ... nothing. Press enter, get > the same message. > > I actually am thinking my HD is knackered, as it takes for ever to > boot even this far and clicks now and again!! But why wouldn't I at > least be able to boot, 'tho slowly? > > With best wishes, > > Dave what this means is you are at a "command prompt" and the correct info on how to get a GUI running is to type "startx" or "init 5" with out the quotes, let us know what happens then... if you want we can get you set to start X every time you start Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] UPDATE Can't even get beyond user name!!!
not sure what you're original problem was dave, but what you descibe, the : [condyk@localhost condyk]$ is a command prompt, you type commands here, the first condyk indicates that the user 'condyk' is logged on and the localhost is the name of the machine that condyk is logged onto, the second 'condyk' indicates the current directory that you are in, it is only listing the directory name not the full path but it almost certainly refers to /home/condyk since it is standard fro a user to logon and be put into their home directory, if your machine is configured properly for X then you could try typing startx at the prompt and pressing enter, linux doesn't have to boot into a gui, you can configure mandrake either way bascule On Sunday 12 May 2002 10:21 pm, you wrote: > Yes, I have got this far and after entering user and pass I get this: > > [condyk@localhost condyk]$ > > What does this mean? > > I then wait a further several minutes ... nothing. Press enter, get > the same message. > > Dave -- 'They've given us the answers,' he [Carrot] said. 'Perhaps we can find out what the questions should have been.' (Feet of Clay) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] UPDATE Can't even get beyond user name!!!
On Sunday 12 May 2002 05:21 pm, you wrote: > Yes, I have got this far and after entering user and pass I get this: > > [condyk@localhost condyk]$ > > What does this mean? Umm, have you tried typing in: startx at this point? That should start your GUI of choice (KDE/Gnome/whatever). I'm not being insulting here (I've not been following this thread - sorry!) but are you fairly new to Linux? If so, just keep posting/asking questions, we'll help you all we can! ;-) -- /\ Dark> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] UPDATE Can't even get beyond user name!!!
> > Yes, I have got this far and after entering user and pass I get this: > > [condyk@localhost condyk]$ > > What does this mean? That is a prompt. It means your username is condyk and your hostname is localhost (You should have given a different name during installation), and your current directory is /home/condyk You can start up the graphical system by now typing the command startx This should start up the graphical system (If it is working) Let us know any error messages. Also try typing 'dmesg' (without the quotes) and let us know the messages at the bottom > > I then wait a further several minutes ... nothing. Press enter, get > the same message. > > I actually am thinking my HD is knackered, as it takes for ever to > boot even this far and clicks now and again!! But why wouldn't I at > least be able to boot, 'tho slowly? Linux does boot more slowly than windows, and it does seem to go to sleep at one point while it tests for new hardware, but it does not take 'ages' How long precisely does it take? derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] UPDATE Can't even get beyond user name!!!
Hi Ed, >> Dave, when you get the text screen don't do anything, wait a minute and it >> should continue to boot to the graphical login screen. >> That text screen is not the last thing to pop up. Give it a minute and see >> what happens. HTH Ok ... gave several minutes, made a cup of tea, gave a few more and decided this wasn't the problem. Thanks 'tho. e> its also worth noting that you may not see any "return" or "echo" of some e> digits when you login with the password. just type it correctly and hit e> ehter. Yes, I have got this far and after entering user and pass I get this: [condyk@localhost condyk]$ What does this mean? I then wait a further several minutes ... nothing. Press enter, get the same message. I actually am thinking my HD is knackered, as it takes for ever to boot even this far and clicks now and again!! But why wouldn't I at least be able to boot, 'tho slowly? With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer & Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 100666 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Print pdf multiple page on single sheet?
Hi, How to set the parameters of lpr in printing pdf file with multiple pages on a single sheet?(Not duplex, I mean 2 logical pages on one side for example). I could only find help on ps file, text file, dvi file. No such support was found via the net. Surely there are tools such as xpdf and ghostview. But neither has fancy printing graphical interface such as the one provided in Windows. Could anyone tell me how to do this with simple command line lpr? Many thanks, Wei Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Fwd: UPDATE Can't even get beyond user name!!!
On Sunday 12 May 2002 04:13 pm, you wrote: > Subject: Re: [newbie] Fwd: UPDATE Can't even get beyond user name!!! > Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 11:08:24 -0500 > From: Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Sunday 12 May 2002 05:44 am, you wrote: > > (Dennis - You probably intended to send to the list instead of direct to > > me... Derek) > > > > >Saturday, May 11, 2002, 7:40:30 PM, you wrote: > > > > > >This is a classic newbuie question, but I'll ask it anyway in hope of > > >a simple answer and Mandrake 8.2 id driving me nuts. > > > > > >OK, I've finally installed, after wrestling with a faulty bootable DVD > > >and I get to a screen that asks for my user name, so I enter it > > >perfectly correctly. I am then asked for my password; again entered > > >perfectly, but nothing appears and I wait. Nothing. SO I press return > > >and some routine starts and then everything stops. Is this normal or > > >weird, or what? > > > > > >Maybe I need to enter some geekie command line stuff; if so, please > > >HELP!!! > > > > > >With best wishes, > > > > > >Dave > > > > Hi Derek, > > > > Saturday, May 11, 2002, 11:58:12 PM, you wrote: > > > > DJ> when does this happen. After the install or during? > > > > After install is completed and I reboot I get the LiLo menu and I > > select Linux which is installed on a second HD away from my Win2000 > > set up. Partitioning has all been done via Mandrake using the auto > > button during the install/partition section. > > > > DJ> Is it a text screen or a graphical screen? > > > > Starts off as a graphical screen and then becomes a text screen as the > > blue progress bar gets to the end, just before it asks for log in > > details. > > > > Dave, when you get the text screen don't do anything, wait a minute and it > should continue to boot to the graphical login screen. > That text screen is not the last thing to pop up. Give it a minute and see > what happens. HTH its also worth noting that you may not see any "return" or "echo" of some digits when you login with the password. just type it correctly and hit ehter. this also kinda sounds like you are have an X server problem, and the server dies with a fatal erro,,, just ell use "exactly" what your screen says... we can always go from there... HTH2 Ed Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD-ROM Recognition in XCDROAST
On Saturday 11 May 2002 22:01, you wrote: > On Sat, 11 May 2002 15:37:37 +0100 > After you added the append line did you remember to run lilo and > reboot. > Charles instead of /dev/hdc i have /dev/sdc1, bascule -- Thank you both , yes , you were both right. This is how I now have it :- /ETC/LILO.CONF -- append="devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi nobiospnp" /ETC/FSTAB -- /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec, codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom2 auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec, codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 DESKTOP ICONS DVD/ROM ICON, CDROM : properties - Devices : /dev/scd0 WRITER ICON,CDROM 2 : properties - Devices : /dev/scd1 Xcdroast now recognises both DVD/ROM and Writer ,the scd(n) reverse because the rom/writer are configured master and slave. The desktop Icons now access discs as well. Just one problem left , I get a new bootscript warning :- Searching for new devices, Cannot Locate /dev/dvd , no such file. I've forgotten to do something ? What. John John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
On Sunday 12 May 2002 11:35 am, DAVEinDSM offered this for consideration: > Thanks to all of you that answered.. I was pretty sure ReiserFS was the > way to go..but wanted to here somebody elses more experienced viewpoint > before deciding for sure. Later today I will reinstall Mandrake 8.1 with > reiser fs and go from there. I bought the 8.1 boxed set and found several > nice programs that aren't on the 8.2 download set and i don't have 8.2 yet > anyway.. :) > > Thanks again for all your help and suggestions. > > One more question for those following the thread > > Why doesn't mandrake install reiserfs by default for desktop use i > realize that ext2 is probably better for servers.. but if you choose > just desktop options. i would think that you would want a > fast/stable/easy to recover from file system for newbie's. at least > for the desktop .??? > > Thanks again, > > Dave. My own experiences with installing/helping others install MDK 8.2 lead me to believe that for some reason ext3 is the "default FS." Why? Because every install, during HDD detection/partitioning in 'expert mode', opens the dialogue to define partitions at ext3. One then is required/needs to choose a preferred alternative fs type before continuing. I could be wrong but I'm almost positive. >From experience; I've tried ext3, Reiser in various incarnations, ext2 of course, and XFS. Flip a coin on speed of access and general "buggyness" (is that a word? Read it as 'stability') between Reiser and XFS but in 8.2 you won't know either is there until the power goes out, or the keyboard>chair interface goes into mental vapor lock mode temporarily. Then you'll be glad it is. I'm running Reiser FS on this system now and have no complaints. I did find ext3 was a real hog. In my opinion anyway. One final note: on this machine with the MDK 8.1 Standard Edition box set I purchased; the included version of Reiser FS was so slow in performance that it drove me nearly insane. I actually got so frustrated that I re-installed it using the "Linux Native" ext2. -- Charlie in Edmonton, AB, Canada Mandrake 8.2 user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Kword font lists are not the same
I have used the font manager to add my Windows fonts. Now Kword shows a list of about 40 fonts in the drop down box on the tool bar, but the Format Font dialog box shows a list of around 144 fonts. If I choose a font from the dialog box to format some text using a font not available in the drop down box, the drop down box continues to show the old font name. Very confusing. Is there an additional step I have to do to make the two font lists identical? TIA, Roger Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
Es Diumenge 12 Maig 2002 16:08, en Randy Kramer va escriure: > I'm curious about why ReiserFS could not be used for / -- I (assumed | > thought I understood) that the reason was that Reiser was not built into > the standard kernel or startup tools or something like that, so that the > boot image could not be read. Thus, the suggestion to make /boot and > ext2 partition. > > I further assumed that other filesystems (XFS, ..., all other than ext2 > and maybe ext3 would have the same problem). > > Can anybody confirm / comment? > > Randy Kramer I'm using ReiserFS for all my partitions but swap ( / and /home ) for 1 and half years with no probs (under mdk since 7.2)... -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain AOL quini2k ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ISO to data CD Writing
On Sun, 12 May 2002, John Richard Smith wrote: > I now have a 668Mb ISO ( CD1) file downloaded. > > How do you take this ISO file in Linux and convert to a data file and > write to disk, and can this be done simultaneously as one operation, > like you can in windows / EZCD V5. > > John You can do it with cdrecord...this works for me: cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 filename.iso If your CD burner isn't listed as 0,0,0 you can find out what it is listed as by issuing the following command cdrecord -scanbus HTH - peace, Rog Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
I remember Civilme suggesting that XFS is a good way to go on a PC, so that's what I'm using now. I have a somewhat faulty mobo, so every couple weeks, it freezes up to the point where I have to cold boot, and with XFS it boots up just as fast as it did when I was using ReiserFS. However, I lack the technical expertise to even detect if there's any performance difference between XFS and ReiserFS. Heh...I realize that probably isn't much help...sorry... On Sun, 12 May 2002, DAVEinDSM wrote: > As you can probably tell. I'm using windows right now... the reason is that I >reformatted everything and reinstalled MS so I could use this computer for email etc >while I decided which file system I wanted to install on my linux partition. > > I had a bad experience with ext2 the default file system. > 1. I had one of my kids push the power button to shut down my mandrake 8.1 box and I >couldn't get the system to boot back up...serious lack of enough knowledge to try >to recoup the data and save the file system on my part. > 2. lost alot of data.(nothing major..but a PITA anyway) > stuff like saved newbie emails that probably told how to recover from a bad >ext2 shutdown...stuff like that!! > 3. read that reiser fs was better .especially for newbies like me that have bad >shutdowns.power outages...etc > > Any input on that? I want to re install mandrake..but want a file system that >recovers fast.and is stable enough to withstand the occasional bad shutdown. I >read all the older posts in the newbie archives.and seems like reiserfs is the >way to go..but am open to suggestions before I re-install. > > Reiser FS also should have somewhat faster file access for my large directories of >jpegs and html files if I'm not mistakenI went to www.reiserfs.org ...read >alot there too, but wanted real life experiences. I trust those more :) > > THIA > Dave > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ISO to data CD Writing
I now have a 668Mb ISO ( CD1) file downloaded. How do you take this ISO file in Linux and convert to a data file and write to disk, and can this be done simultaneously as one operation, like you can in windows / EZCD V5. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
On Sun, 12 May 2002 11:26:19 +0100, Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have zero problems with XFS. My understanding is that XFS and ReiserFS are > both faster than Ext3. ReiserFS always used to have an issue that your '/' > partition could not be ReiserFS, not sure if that is fixed now. I've been using a single ReiserFS 3.5 partition (the current version is 3.6, but I see no reason to upgrade) for everything, which includes / and /boot (I'd prefer a multiple-partition setup, but my small drive makes this impractical), since Mandrake 8.0. I've had no problems whatsoever. All crashes are recovered from without any problem, and I've never needed to fsck. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "Are you all on drugs? Get your acts together, guys. Stop blathering and frothing at the mouth" -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
On Sunday 12 May 2002 03:26, Derek Jennings opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: > ReiserFS always used to have an issue that > your '/' partition could not be ReiserFS, not sure if that is fixed now. i hope it is fixed or i have no idea how i boot. ;-) -- "I struggle to be breif but manage to be obscure."- Horace shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
Thanks to all of you that answered.. I was pretty sure ReiserFS was the way to go..but wanted to here somebody elses more experienced viewpoint before deciding for sure. Later today I will reinstall Mandrake 8.1 with reiser fs and go from there. I bought the 8.1 boxed set and found several nice programs that aren't on the 8.2 download set and i don't have 8.2 yet anyway.. :) Thanks again for all your help and suggestions. One more question for those following the thread Why doesn't mandrake install reiserfs by default for desktop use i realize that ext2 is probably better for servers.. but if you choose just desktop options. i would think that you would want a fast/stable/easy to recover from file system for newbie's. at least for the desktop .??? Thanks again, Dave. - Original Message - From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice?? > On Sunday 12 May 2002 06:40 am, Michael Adams wrote: > > Running XFS here, Mandrake has done Xtensive, Xhuastive testing > > ;-) of all the journalling file systems and XFS came in as the > > overall winner. Reiser was meant to be faster but uses more disk > > space. > > Believe you've got that backwards. XFS uses more space. > -- > Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
On Sunday 12 May 2002 06:40 am, Michael Adams wrote: > Running XFS here, Mandrake has done Xtensive, Xhuastive testing > ;-) of all the journalling file systems and XFS came in as the > overall winner. Reiser was meant to be faster but uses more disk > space. Believe you've got that backwards. XFS uses more space. -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
On Sunday 12 May 2002 05:26 am, Derek Jennings wrote: > I have zero problems with XFS. My understanding is that XFS and > ReiserFS are both faster than Ext3. ReiserFS always used to have an > issue that your '/' partition could not be ReiserFS, not sure if > that is fixed now. I keep hearing that, but for over 1 1/2 years I had one big / on ReiserFS. No problems. There is no issue with '/' with XFS, but the > installer warns you it is not possible to make a boot flopy with > XFS because it will not fit onto the floppy. (Not a problem with > 8.2 because the install CD takes the place of a boot floppy) The ready made kernel-2.4.18.13mdk wouldn't fit, but recompiled, optimizing only for k7 (ie, still usin the default Mandrake .config), then 'mkbootdisk $(uname -r)' was successful. ?? I've currently got one big / XFS partition ... and a boot floppy ;) FWIW, if y'all try this, I believe -13mdk is the last Mandrake kernel that'll compile usin gcc 2.96. >= -14mdk needs gcc3, current kernels need gcc 3.1 -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
On Sunday 12 May 2002 03:02 am, DAVEinDSM wrote: > Reiser FS also should have somewhat faster file access for my large > directories of jpegs and html files if I'm not mistakenI > went to www.reiserfs.org ...read alot there too, but wanted real > life experiences. I trust those more :) I have over 1 1/2 years experience with ReiserFS, never any problem. I have several weeks now with XFS on my main linux partition (everything in one big 'ol / ). This is the second time I've tried it as many seem to think it's the best. I haven't done any testing, but it does 'feel' slightly faster than RFS during large file(s) moves. Access to a dir where I have 10's of thousands of .jpg's is the same as with RFS. You could probly use either RFS or XFS with confidence. Surely either is a vast improvement over ext2. I'd suggest RFS only because it's been in use longer by more people. If you're lookin for faster file access, get a faster harddrive ;) -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Setting default web browser
On Sunday 12 May 2002 10:18 am, Gerald Waugh wrote: > On Sunday 12 May 2002 10:07 am, Gerald Waugh wrote: > > Try > > > > KDE-Start->Configuration->KDE->FileBrowsing->File Associations > > Sorry, that didn't work ( looked like it might ) Ok, after attempting again, it is now working -- Gerald Waugh http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com :: Phone. [011] 203.785.0699 Front Street Networks LLC | SOHO Networks & Web Site Hosting 229 Front Street, Ste. #C, New Haven, CT, 06513-3203 United States Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] i586 v i686
On Sunday 12 May 2002 04:54 am, you wrote: > as i understand it, a K6 is still considered > a i586 architecture by kernel distinction. Just to mention...my former (and now in use by my 8 year old) K6-III @475mhz AMD was labeled a 586... and my Athlon T-bird @900mhz as well as my 11 year olds 850mhz Duron are labeled as 686's... Hope this helps somewhat. ;-) -- /\ Dark> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Setting default web browser
On Sunday 12 May 2002 10:07 am, Gerald Waugh wrote: > Try > > KDE-Start->Configuration->KDE->FileBrowsing->File Associations Sorry, that didn't work ( looked like it might ) -- Gerald Waugh http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com :: Phone. [011] 203.785.0699 Front Street Networks LLC | SOHO Networks & Web Site Hosting 229 Front Street, Ste. #C, New Haven, CT, 06513-3203 United States Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
Derek Jennings wrote: > ReiserFS always used to have an issue that your '/' > partition could not be ReiserFS, not sure if that is fixed now. There is no > issue with '/' with XFS, but the installer warns you it is not possible to > make a boot flopy with XFS because it will not fit onto the floppy. I'm curious about why ReiserFS could not be used for / -- I (assumed | thought I understood) that the reason was that Reiser was not built into the standard kernel or startup tools or something like that, so that the boot image could not be read. Thus, the suggestion to make /boot and ext2 partition. I further assumed that other filesystems (XFS, ..., all other than ext2 and maybe ext3 would have the same problem). Can anybody confirm / comment? Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
On Sunday 12 May 2002 01:02, DAVEinDSM opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: > Reiser FS also should have somewhat faster file access for my large > directories of jpegs and html files if I'm not mistakenI went to > www.reiserfs.org ...read alot there too, but wanted real life > experiences. I trust those more :) just to echo what some others have said, i crashed hard several times in ext2, i have one machine on Reiser and one on XFS and zero problems (from the file system anyway) for over a year and both are very fast. while i hear often that XFS is the faster, it appears to me to be on the order of benchmarking. that is you won't notice the difference unless you time it very carefully. you might notice the difference between either and ext2 though. -- Nimda virus affects Linux! My linux boxes have had their bandwidth chewed up by four thousand Nimda servers infected with IIS. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Setting default web browser
On Sunday 12 May 2002 06:38, Brian Parish opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: > Well to be precise - Control > File browsing > File associations > text > > > HTML the browser listed first (at the top) is Galeon. In fact I > > tried taking Mozilla out of the list completely. Still get Mozilla. wow, that is cool. does galeon run from the command line? if you choose an html file and right click and open with does galeon work then? lemme play around a bit, but i fear you have me stumped, we will ahve to let someone who knows something join in here.. :) -- "The only people who like Microsoft are those who don't understand. When people understand what Microsoft is up to, they're outraged." - Tim O'Reilly shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Setting default web browser
Try KDE-Start->Configuration->KDE->FileBrowsing->File Associations -- Gerald Waugh http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com :: Phone. [011] 203.785.0699 Front Street Networks LLC | SOHO Networks & Web Site Hosting 229 Front Street, Ste. #C, New Haven, CT, 06513-3203 United States Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Setting default web browser
On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 23:12, shane wrote: > On Sunday 12 May 2002 05:16, Brian Parish opened a general hailing frequency > and transmitted to all open stations: > > > Since installing 8.2 and the version of evolution that comes with it, > > whenever I click on a URL in email I get Mozilla as the browser. I > > found in KDE Control Center under file browsing, that I can set the > > order of preference for HTML, but this doesn't apply to web browsing. > > Where do I set this? > > under control > file associations > text > html the first browser, the one > on top, should be the default, is this not your case? or am i > misunderstanding? > > -- > Carpe Daemon - Seize the background proceedure! > > shane > Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html > Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 > Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ > Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ > Well to be precise - Control > File browsing > File associations > text > HTML the browser listed first (at the top) is Galeon. In fact I tried taking Mozilla out of the list completely. Still get Mozilla. Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Fwd: UPDATE Can't even get beyond user name!!!
(Dave - You probably intended to send to the list instead of direct to me... Derek) >Saturday, May 11, 2002, 7:40:30 PM, you wrote: >This is a classic newbuie question, but I'll ask it anyway in hope of >a simple answer and Mandrake 8.2 id driving me nuts. >OK, I've finally installed, after wrestling with a faulty bootable DVD >and I get to a screen that asks for my user name, so I enter it >perfectly correctly. I am then asked for my password; again entered >perfectly, but nothing appears and I wait. Nothing. SO I press return >and some routine starts and then everything stops. Is this normal or >weird, or what? >Maybe I need to enter some geekie command line stuff; if so, please >HELP!!! >With best wishes, >Dave Hi Derek, Saturday, May 11, 2002, 11:58:12 PM, you wrote: DJ> when does this happen. After the install or during? After install is completed and I reboot I get the LiLo menu and I select Linux which is installed on a second HD away from my Win2000 set up. Partitioning has all been done via Mandrake using the auto button during the install/partition section. DJ> Is it a text screen or a graphical screen? Starts off as a graphical screen and then becomes a text screen as the blue progress bar gets to the end, just before it asks for log in details. DJ> What precisely do you see? The expected graphical log in doesn't appear. I get the following: Mandrake version and date stuff at top, then: Localhost login: I enter user login that I gave during install Press return to continue INIT: Switching to numlevel: 3 INIT: Sending processes the TERM signal Assigning raw devices: /dev/dvd [OK] (Nothing seems to happen at this point, so I press return) Password: enter as entered during install Last login; (gives date and time) on tty1 {condyk@localhost condyk]$ that's as far as we go ... HD keeps spinning/light on, 10 minutes pass and nothing, so I reboot ... DJ> What is your hardware. AMD TB 1600, ABit Raid KG7 MB (no Raid installed), 128mb DDR, 12GB Western Digital HD for Win2000 and 15mb Maxtor for Linux (both 7200/66). Video card is a Hercules 3D Prophet 4500 Kyro II. Self build works beautifully under Win2000, so doubt if hardware fault ... could be incompatibility. However, the Linux HD seems slow and gives out clicks now and again?! I hope this is sufficient info. Let me know if you anything else needed. My Win2000 HD is NTFS single partition and so I don't think I can just install Linux alongside. If I can and do a norton speed disk, is it safe? With best wishes, Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Setting default web browser
On Sunday 12 May 2002 05:16, Brian Parish opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: > Since installing 8.2 and the version of evolution that comes with it, > whenever I click on a URL in email I get Mozilla as the browser. I > found in KDE Control Center under file browsing, that I can set the > order of preference for HTML, but this doesn't apply to web browsing. > Where do I set this? under control > file associations > text > html the first browser, the one on top, should be the default, is this not your case? or am i misunderstanding? -- Carpe Daemon - Seize the background proceedure! shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar file size limit???
OK - wondered why my reply to this hadn't shown up then realized the reply to address was set to go back to David direct. The problem here is that /mnt/TRASH-BOX (nice mount point!) is /mnt/W$ - meaning FAT32. FAT32 has a max file size of 2GB. Brian On Mon, 2002-05-13 at 08:50, David wrote: > I am trying to backup /home with the following simple script: > > #!/bin/sh > backup="home-$(date +%m-%d-%y)" > tar -cvMf /mnt/TRASH-BOX/backups/$backup.tar home/ > > > When the tar file reaches 2GB, I get the following output: > > /usr/sbin/backup: line 3: 29016 File size limit exceededtar -cvMf >/mnt/TRASH-BOX/backups/$backup.tar home/ > > > I went through the man page for tar, but found nothing that sounded promising except >the -M argument. That, unless I misinterpreted, was supposed to create a >multi-volume archive. With and without -M, I get the same thing, a stoppage at 2GB. > > Does anyone know a way around this? Or maybe a better way to do my backup? The >mount point used is a Samba share. And /home is about 6.6GB. > > > TIA > -- > °°° > David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 > Mandrake 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5 Sylpheed 0.7.5claws > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: www.davidlsteiner.com > °°° > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Setting default web browser
Since installing 8.2 and the version of evolution that comes with it, whenever I click on a URL in email I get Mozilla as the browser. I found in KDE Control Center under file browsing, that I can set the order of preference for HTML, but this doesn't apply to web browsing. Where do I set this? TIA Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar file size limit???
Umm, I wasn't aware that there is a size limit with tar. This warning you get, is that when you use the "M" flag, or even when you don't? If you want to save time, I suggest you use: tar cvfz /mnt/TRASH-BOX/backups/$backup.tar.gz /home ... this will gzip up the tar file. It probably will take up quite a lot more time seeing as your $home's are so big. Try delete useless files like cache, may make a big difference too... rm -Rf /home/*/.mozilla/default/*/Cache (as root) will delete all your Mozilla Cache directories. It may be the Samba file limit, but as I have no undestanding of Samba I can't tell. On Google all I came up with a quick glance is Lone-Tar.. which does have a limit of 2 gigs, but as for Gnu-Tar I'm not sure. Greetings Ralph On Sun, 12 May 2002, David wrote: > I am trying to backup /home with the following simple script: > > #!/bin/sh > backup="home-$(date +%m-%d-%y)" > tar -cvMf /mnt/TRASH-BOX/backups/$backup.tar home/ > > > When the tar file reaches 2GB, I get the following output: > > /usr/sbin/backup: line 3: 29016 File size limit exceededtar -cvMf >/mnt/TRASH-BOX/backups/$backup.tar home/ > > > I went through the man page for tar, but found nothing that sounded promising except >the -M argument. That, unless I misinterpreted, was supposed to create a >multi-volume archive. With and without -M, I get the same thing, a stoppage at 2GB. > > Does anyone know a way around this? Or maybe a better way to do my backup? The >mount point used is a Samba share. And /home is about 6.6GB. > > > TIA > -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
Running XFS here, Mandrake has done Xtensive, Xhuastive testing ;-) of all the journalling file systems and XFS came in as the overall winner. Reiser was meant to be faster but uses more disk space. Michael On Sunday 12 May 2002 09:06 pm, Skynet wrote: > Dear DAVEinDSM: > > I left ext2 when going from 7.2 to 8.0 and then started Reiser ... It'is > now on M8.2 and works very well. It seems to be faster than ext2 and is > stable. Try it, you won't regret ! > > Walter > > At 2002-05-12, 01:02:00 you wrote: > > As you can probably tell. I'm using windows right now... the reason is > that I reformatted everything and reinstalled MS so I could use this > computer for email etc while I decided which file system I wanted to > install on my linux partition. > > I had a bad experience with ext2 the default file system. > 1. I had one of my kids push the power button to shut down my mandrake 8.1 > box and I couldn't get the system to boot back up...serious lack of > enough knowledge to try to recoup the data and save the file system on my > part. 2. lost alot of data.(nothing major...but a PITA anyway) > stuff like saved newbie emails that probably told how to recover from > a bad ext2 shutdown...stuff like that!! 3. read that reiser fs was better > .especially for newbies like me that have bad shutdowns.power > outages...etc > > Any input on that? I want to re install mandrake..but want a file > system that recovers fast.and is stable enough to withstand the > occasional bad shutdown. I read all the older posts in the newbie > archives.and seems like reiserfs is the way to go..but am open to > suggestions before I re-install. > > Reiser FS also should have somewhat faster file access for my large > directories of jpegs and html files if I'm not mistakenI went to > www.reiserfs.org ...read alot there too, but wanted real life > experiences. I trust those more :) > > THIA > Dave > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Best regards. > > Skynet > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 2002-05-12 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] need help with Mandrake crashing problem
On Sunday 12 May 2002 09:05 pm, Stormjumper wrote: > when i'm free, hopefully in abt 2 weeks, > i'll try to compile a early kernel, > with Mandrake 8.2 in console mode, > and see if my X will run w/o crashing. > (any suggestions? was thinking of 2.4.10 vanilla) > > the other possiblility may be X 4.2.x, > but i doubt it. > > in the meantime, if anyone else sees any useful > info on this topic, pls do post it on this list. I f you boot with CD2, other kernals may be installed from it. Sorry i don't know the procedure but it may be like a rescue. Sorry i couldn't be more help. Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] i586 v i686
On Sunday 12 May 2002 08:00 pm, Seedkum Aladeem wrote: > On Thursday 09 May 2002 09:31 pm, you wrote: > > i586 will work on machines with a Pentium class processor or newer. That > > is, anything newer than a 486. i686 will work on machines with a Celeron, > > Pentium II, or newer. Thus my AMD K6 box can use RPMs for either i586 or > > i686, but my AMD K5 box can only use RPMs for i586. > > Something is not right. My machine has an AMD K6-2 but the arch program Tom > mentioned gave me i586 for the CPU. I think the arch program is probably > mistaken. > > I think the difference between the i586 and the i686 is that the i686 has > the MMX instructions and the i586 does not. I think the arch program should > have detected a i686. > > > Can somebody correct me? > > > Seedkum I believe the K6 is seen by linux as being i586 architecture. In particular, on the errata page it specifically states that problems have occurred with K6 and P1 systems with some i686 build stuff that got put on the Commercial CD's of the Power Pack and above. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/errata.php3 Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Double Postings
On Sunday 12 May 2002 09:23 pm, Gerald Waugh wrote: > On Sunday 12 May 2002 04:57 am, Mark Annandale wrote: > > Hi Guys > > > > Is it just me, or is everyone getting these postings in duplicate ? > > Not here! Some do this consistently, but not all. Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
On Sunday 12 May 2002 13:26, Derek Jennings wrote: > I have zero problems with XFS. My understanding is that XFS and > ReiserFS are both faster than Ext3. ReiserFS always used to have an > issue that your '/' partition could not be ReiserFS, not sure if > that is fixed now. Yes, it is. AFAIK the Reiser fsck tools are less dangerous than they used to be as well. Sir Robin -- "Bravo Epictetus!" - Epictetus Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] need help with Mandrake crashing problem
On Sunday 12 May 2002 12:05, Stormjumper wrote: > thanks for all the suggestions. > > i do not have interrupt conflicts, > so thta isn't the problem. > > this issue seems to be common, altho not > widespread amongst the recent distributions, > as i've tried Mandrake 8.2, Peanut 9.2, > gentoo 1.1a, so it seems to be something > new that is causing it. > > at this stage, i suspect it may be certain > kernel parameters of the 2.4.18 kernel. > since the earlier distros seem to be working fine. > > (like Robin Turner has already remarked, > it doesn't happen on Mandrake 8.0 with my system too, > and our systems don't have much in common in > terms of hardware.) Yeah, I checked my IRQs in the BIOS and in Windows device Manager (see, Windows is good for something!) and nothing untoward seems to be going on there either. One thing I've noticed that is different with 8.2 is that PnP detection has been beefed up a little. I falsely said that my Cirrus Logic winmodem had not been detected; in fact it had not only been detected, but installed at /dev/modem, and even worked, at least until the inevitable X-freeze. I removed it as someone (Roman?) suggested and got my external modem working as in previous installs, but it didn't solve the problem. 8.2 is also the first distro to get my AWE64 soundcard working without having to run sndconfig manually. The interesting thing is that it doesn't _think_ it works; the summary screen in the installer doesn't show anything for soundcard, and running a probe just tells me to run sndconfig after installation. But I have sound all the same. Maybe I should take out the soundcard too, reinstall, put it back in and run sndconfig. Sir Robin -- "Bravo Epictetus!" - Epictetus Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] tar file size limit???
I am trying to backup /home with the following simple script: #!/bin/sh backup="home-$(date +%m-%d-%y)" tar -cvMf /mnt/TRASH-BOX/backups/$backup.tar home/ When the tar file reaches 2GB, I get the following output: /usr/sbin/backup: line 3: 29016 File size limit exceededtar -cvMf /mnt/TRASH-BOX/backups/$backup.tar home/ I went through the man page for tar, but found nothing that sounded promising except the -M argument. That, unless I misinterpreted, was supposed to create a multi-volume archive. With and without -M, I get the same thing, a stoppage at 2GB. Does anyone know a way around this? Or maybe a better way to do my backup? The mount point used is a Samba share. And /home is about 6.6GB. TIA -- °°° David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Mandrake 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5 Sylpheed 0.7.5claws Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: www.davidlsteiner.com °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
I have zero problems with XFS. My understanding is that XFS and ReiserFS are both faster than Ext3. ReiserFS always used to have an issue that your '/' partition could not be ReiserFS, not sure if that is fixed now. There is no issue with '/' with XFS, but the installer warns you it is not possible to make a boot flopy with XFS because it will not fit onto the floppy. (Not a problem with 8.2 because the install CD takes the place of a boot floppy) You might like to consider installing 8.2 anyway simply because the 'rescue' system is so much better and would help you to recover from this sort of accident without resorting to reinstalling. derek On Sunday 12 May 2002 9:02 am, DAVEinDSM wrote: > As you can probably tell. I'm using windows right now... the reason is > that I reformatted everything and reinstalled MS so I could use this > computer for email etc while I decided which file system I wanted to > install on my linux partition. > > I had a bad experience with ext2 the default file system. > 1. I had one of my kids push the power button to shut down my mandrake 8.1 > box and I couldn't get the system to boot back up...serious lack of > enough knowledge to try to recoup the data and save the file system on my > part. 2. lost alot of data.(nothing major..but a PITA anyway) > stuff like saved newbie emails that probably told how to recover from > a bad ext2 shutdown...stuff like that!! 3. read that reiser fs was better > .especially for newbies like me that have bad shutdowns.power > outages...etc > > Any input on that? I want to re install mandrake..but want a file > system that recovers fast.and is stable enough to withstand the > occasional bad shutdown. I read all the older posts in the newbie > archives.and seems like reiserfs is the way to go..but am open to > suggestions before I re-install. > > Reiser FS also should have somewhat faster file access for my large > directories of jpegs and html files if I'm not mistakenI went to > www.reiserfs.org ...read alot there too, but wanted real life > experiences. I trust those more :) > > THIA > Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] i586 v i686
On Sun, 12 May 2002 01:00:25 -0700, Seedkum Aladeem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 09 May 2002 09:31 pm, you wrote: > > i586 will work on machines with a Pentium class processor or newer. That > > is, anything newer than a 486. i686 will work on machines with a Celeron, > > Pentium II, or newer. Thus my AMD K6 box can use RPMs for either i586 or > > i686, but my AMD K5 box can only use RPMs for i586. > > Something is not right. My machine has an AMD K6-2 but the arch program Tom > mentioned gave me i586 for the CPU. I think the arch program is probably > mistaken. > > I think the difference between the i586 and the i686 is that the i686 has the > MMX instructions and the i586 does not. I think the arch program should have > detected a i686. The difference is a little greater than that. Comparatively few apps use MMX, so if your hypothesis was correct then the difference between i586 and i686 would be almost negligible. IIRC, Intel released 3 MMX-enabled versions of the Pentium series, running at 166, 200 and 233 MHz. i686 is a major redesign of the Pentium, and was first seen in the Pentium Pro chip. The Pentium II and III were simply souped-up versions of the Pentium Pro. I believe the AMD K6 series is i586-class. In that case, the first i686 AMD chip was the Athlon. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan What's this script doing? unzip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; gasp ; yes ; umount ; sleep. Hint: not everything is computer-oriented. Sometimes you're in a sleeping bag, camping out with your girlfriend. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] need help with Mandrake crashing problem
thanks for all the suggestions. i do not have interrupt conflicts, so thta isn't the problem. this issue seems to be common, altho not widespread amongst the recent distributions, as i've tried Mandrake 8.2, Peanut 9.2, gentoo 1.1a, so it seems to be something new that is causing it. at this stage, i suspect it may be certain kernel parameters of the 2.4.18 kernel. since the earlier distros seem to be working fine. (like Robin Turner has already remarked, it doesn't happen on Mandrake 8.0 with my system too, and our systems don't have much in common in terms of hardware.) when i'm free, hopefully in abt 2 weeks, i'll try to compile a early kernel, with Mandrake 8.2 in console mode, and see if my X will run w/o crashing. (any suggestions? was thinking of 2.4.10 vanilla) the other possiblility may be X 4.2.x, but i doubt it. in the meantime, if anyone else sees any useful info on this topic, pls do post it on this list. thanks again. - Original Message - From: "Robin Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with Mandrake crashing problem > On Friday 10 May 2002 07:33, Stormjumper wrote: > > hello, > > > > got a "small" problem here. > > just installed Mandrake 8.2 on my laptop. > > > > however, after logging in to any graphical UI > > (include KDE and IceWM, Blackbox,) > > the system freezes up totally within seconds of > > running any "real" application, eg xmms, mozilla. > > this is consistent behaviour. > > mouse, kb, sound, CTRL-ALT-BkSp, CTRL-ALT-Del, etc > > all fails. > > > > however, the system is rock stable in non-X console, > > or if i just click around in, say twm, > > w/o opening any applications, i can do that forever > > w/o bringing down the machine. > > > > does anyone know anything i can do to troubleshoot? > > > > my system config is Compaq Armada 3500 laptop, 128mb ram > > P-II 300mhz, ESS1869, Chips and Tech 69000 PCI (2mb) > > Xircom Cardbus Realport Ethernet + Modem. > > I have a similar problem on my PC (P-II 350MHz, 128MB RAM GeForce II, > AWE64 soundcard, everything else bog-standard generic hardware). It > doesn't freeze immediately or consistently (except that opening a > website in Konqueror is guarantedd to freeze it) but will almost > certainly freeze within ten minutes of use (console games seem to be > an exception here). In a few cases it didn't freeze but simply > rebooted itself (oh well, saved me the trouble of leaning over to hit > the restart button). > > I installed 8.2 in Expert mode, then again in standard mode just to > make sure I hadn't done something stupid. Installing the updates > made no difference either, and there was no difference between using > the XF86 and NVIDIA drivers. This machine worked fine "out of the > box" on 8.0 (and, with an older graphics card, on 7.0, 7.2 and RedHat > 6.0). > > Sir Robin > > > > > > > -- > "Bravo Epictetus!" - Epictetus > > Robin Turner > IDMYO, Bilkent Universitesi > Ankara 06533 > Turkey > > http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't even get beyond user name!!!
Hi Tim, Femme and Derek Sunday, May 12, 2002, 2:43:07 AM, you wrote: TH> We need a little more information Dave. Thanks for the useful responses. To assist further I have posted much more detail, including what happens before things ... er, stop happening! Hope you can help as I haven't got much more hair to pull out :-( With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer & Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 100666 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Double Postings
On Sunday 12 May 2002 04:57 am, Mark Annandale wrote: > Hi Guys > > Is it just me, or is everyone getting these postings in duplicate ? > Not here! -- Gerald Waugh http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com :: Phone. [011] 203.785.0699 Front Street Networks LLC | SOHO Networks & Web Site Hosting 229 Front Street, Ste. #C, New Haven, CT, 06513-3203 United States Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Double Postings
Hi Guys Is it just me, or is everyone getting these postings in duplicate ? Mark A
Re: [newbie] i586 v i686
as i understand it, a K6 is still considered a i586 architecture by kernel distinction. the reason why some pp are able to use i686 packages because the package may be compiled with i686 optimizations, but doesn't run exclusively on i686. ie, compiled with -mcpu vs -march. to go slightly further, i think -mcpu deals with optimizing instruction scheduling, with -march actually uses machine specific instructions, therefore packages compiled with -march of the wrong architecture will not run or crash, while those with wrong -mcpu will run but slower. oh yes, pls correct me if i'm wrong. - Original Message - From: "Seedkum Aladeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] i586 v i686 > On Thursday 09 May 2002 09:31 pm, you wrote: > > i586 will work on machines with a Pentium class processor or newer. That > > is, anything newer than a 486. i686 will work on machines with a Celeron, > > Pentium II, or newer. Thus my AMD K6 box can use RPMs for either i586 or > > i686, but my AMD K5 box can only use RPMs for i586. > > Something is not right. My machine has an AMD K6-2 but the arch program Tom > mentioned gave me i586 for the CPU. I think the arch program is probably > mistaken. > > I think the difference between the i586 and the i686 is that the i686 has the > MMX instructions and the i586 does not. I think the arch program should have > detected a i686. > > > Can somebody correct me? > > > Seedkum > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
On Sunday 12 May 2002 03:35 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > On Sun, 12 May 2002 01:02:35 -0700, "DAVEinDSM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As you can probably tell. I'm using windows right now... the reason > > is that I reformatted everything and reinstalled MS so I could use this > > computer for email etc while I decided which file system I wanted to > > install on my linux partition. > > > > I had a bad experience with ext2 the default file system. > > 1. I had one of my kids push the power button to shut down my mandrake > > 8.1 box and I couldn't get the system to boot back up...serious lack > > of enough knowledge to try to recoup the data and save the file system on > > my part. 2. lost alot of data.(nothing major..but a PITA > > anyway) > > stuff like saved newbie emails that probably told how to recover > > from a bad ext2 shutdown...stuff like that!! > > 3. read that reiser fs was better .especially for newbies like me > > that have bad shutdowns.power outages...etc > > > > Any input on that? I want to re install mandrake..but want a file > > system that recovers fast.and is stable enough to withstand the > > occasional bad shutdown. I read all the older posts in the newbie > > archives.and seems like reiserfs is the way to go..but am open to > > suggestions before I re-install. > > > > > > Reiser FS also should have somewhat faster file access for my large > > directories of jpegs and html files if I'm not mistakenI went to > > www.reiserfs.org ...read alot there too, but wanted real life > > experiences. I trust those more :) > > I've been constantly (ab)using the same ReiserFS partition for over a year > now. It's quite fast, and I've had no trouble recovering from unscheduled > shutdowns. I personally think ReiserFS is the best FS for 'typical' home > users. If you're running a server of some sort (or dealing with large files > or databases), then take a look at Ext3, XFS and JFS. Before I read Civileme's recommendation for xfs, I was re-installing weekly (not only file system woes, I admit). Almost a year on xfs now and not one file system problem. Lee -- Registered Linux abuser #223705 The best indication that there is intelligent life elsewhere is that they haven't contacted us. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
Dear DAVEinDSM: I left ext2 when going from 7.2 to 8.0 and then started Reiser .. It'is now on M8.2 and works very well. It seems to be faster than ext2 and is stable. Try it, you won't regret ! Walter At 2002-05-12, 01:02:00 you wrote: As you can probably tell. I'm using windows right now... the reason is that I reformatted everything and reinstalled MS so I could use this computer for email etc while I decided which file system I wanted to install on my linux partition. I had a bad experience with ext2 the default file system. 1. I had one of my kids push the power button to shut down my mandrake 8.1 box and I couldn't get the system to boot back up...serious lack of enough knowledge to try to recoup the data and save the file system on my part. 2. lost alot of data.(nothing major...but a PITA anyway) stuff like saved newbie emails that probably told how to recover from a bad ext2 shutdown...stuff like that!! 3. read that reiser fs was better .especially for newbies like me that have bad shutdowns.power outages...etc Any input on that? I want to re install mandrake..but want a file system that recovers fast.and is stable enough to withstand the occasional bad shutdown. I read all the older posts in the newbie archives.and seems like reiserfs is the way to go..but am open to suggestions before I re-install. Reiser FS also should have somewhat faster file access for my large directories of jpegs and html files if I'm not mistakenI went to www.reiserfs.org ...read alot there too, but wanted real life experiences. I trust those more :) THIA Dave = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Best regards. Skynet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-05-12
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS file system - a good choice??
On Sun, 12 May 2002 01:02:35 -0700, "DAVEinDSM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As you can probably tell. I'm using windows right now... the reason is > that I reformatted everything and reinstalled MS so I could use this computer > for email etc while I decided which file system I wanted to install on my > linux partition. > > I had a bad experience with ext2 the default file system. > 1. I had one of my kids push the power button to shut down my mandrake 8.1 box > and I couldn't get the system to boot back up...serious lack of enough > knowledge to try to recoup the data and save the file system on my part. > 2. lost alot of data.(nothing major..but a PITA anyway) > stuff like saved newbie emails that probably told how to recover from a > bad ext2 shutdown...stuff like that!! > 3. read that reiser fs was better .especially for newbies like me that > have bad shutdowns.power outages...etc > > Any input on that? I want to re install mandrake..but want a file system > that recovers fast.and is stable enough to withstand the occasional bad > shutdown. I read all the older posts in the newbie archives.and seems like > reiserfs is the way to go..but am open to suggestions before I re-install. > > > Reiser FS also should have somewhat faster file access for my large > directories of jpegs and html files if I'm not mistakenI went to > www.reiserfs.org ...read alot there too, but wanted real life > experiences. I trust those more :) I've been constantly (ab)using the same ReiserFS partition for over a year now. It's quite fast, and I've had no trouble recovering from unscheduled shutdowns. I personally think ReiserFS is the best FS for 'typical' home users. If you're running a server of some sort (or dealing with large files or databases), then take a look at Ext3, XFS and JFS. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Microsoft, Windows, Windows 98, Bugs, Lacking Features, Bloatware, IRQ Conflicts, System Crashes, Non-Functional Multitasking, The Y2K Problem, Security Holes ("Trustworthy Computing") and The Blue Screen of Death ("BSOD") are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corp., Redmond, Washington, USA. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] i586 v i686
On Thursday 09 May 2002 09:31 pm, you wrote: > i586 will work on machines with a Pentium class processor or newer. That > is, anything newer than a 486. i686 will work on machines with a Celeron, > Pentium II, or newer. Thus my AMD K6 box can use RPMs for either i586 or > i686, but my AMD K5 box can only use RPMs for i586. Something is not right. My machine has an AMD K6-2 but the arch program Tom mentioned gave me i586 for the CPU. I think the arch program is probably mistaken. I think the difference between the i586 and the i686 is that the i686 has the MMX instructions and the i586 does not. I think the arch program should have detected a i686. Can somebody correct me? Seedkum Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com