Re: [newbie] can't login as root

[Raffaele Belardi]

or even http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/msec.php:
"Direct root Login" is disabled for Level 4 and 5

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 12:27, et wrote:
> 
>>On Friday 07 June 2002 06:21 pm, you wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 14:46:13 -0700
>>>
>>>"Bill Winegarden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
Hi,
I rarely ask questions for others but this one has me stumped. My
colleague running LM8.2 has a default (for his hardware)
configuration. He created one user. Then, he went to the security
configuration utility and set it to "high". Now he can't get in
the gui login as root. His user account still works and he can
'su' in a terminal. This behaviour seems to have started just
after he changed the security setting to high. My research found a
possible solution in the /etc/security/access.conf  with a missing
entry like...
-:ALL EXCEPT :LOCAL

Am I on the right track here? Has anyone come across this one before?
Newbie archives don't return anything on this.

tia,
Bill W.
>>>
>>>My bet is that this is an msec thing. Try another security level.
>>>
>>>Bill
>>
>>aboSOluuutly msec,,, "man msec" (with out the quotes, in a text console)
>>can be your friend...
> 
> 
> There's also the "Reference Manual" section 12 which is all about msec. 
> Hardcopy for anyone with a box set, online for everyone else. Look for the 
> documents page at MandrakeSoft. MSec can be customised.




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Re: [newbie] cylinders, sectors and heads trouble

[John Richard Smith]

On Sunday 09 June 2002 15:33, you wrote:
I have the same MoBo as you but with the raid controller which I 
disable in bios.

I am curious , what is a WD  drive, IDE or Scsi ?, my mobo sees my 
drive correctly, but then the size is never as much as the 
manufacturers  claim . I wonder whether this WD drive of yours needs 
something to enable your OS to recognise it properly.Do mandrake or 
linux have any websites on the subject.

The  "extended Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
 phys=(1023, 15, 63) should be (1023, 254, 63)" happened to 
me when I too used more that one partition tool, and it was one of 
the reasons why I bought partition magic to do all my partitioning 
and I noticed it makes a better job of measuring h s c so that when 
you choose a partition size it goes for the nearest neat ending in h 
s c, but I don't think it has to be PM ,any good partitioning tool 
will do so long as you stick to it. These are only my personal 
impressions and I cannot say other people have confirmed it, but if I 
can avoid it I no longer use the old dos fdisk, it is behind the 
times, especially with the larger modern hard drives.

John

> On Sunday 09 June 2002 06:55, etharp wrote:
> > more info about the new MOBO is in order, in particular the IDE
> > controller (is it a HPT win-RAID?)
>
> No, I stay clear of the raid controllers...
> The MSI k7T266 pro2 comes in different flavours and I chose the one
> which doesn't have any raid controllers.
>
> On the motherboard, I have:
> Primary master: the wd drive, /dev/hde
> secondary master: a DVD drive, /dev/hdg
> I also have a PCI controller card and on it I have:
> primary master: an old IBM hard drive for backups: /dev/hda
> primary slave: zip drive: /dev/hdb
> secondary master: CD-writer: /dev/hdc--> /dev/scd0
>
> A correction to the c,h,s count in the bios:
> it is (19158, 16, 255).
>
> Narfi.
>
> > On Saturday 08 June 2002 10:57 pm, Narfi wrote:
> > > In my previous life, I was young and ignorant and I bought a WD
> > > drive! ... well, I'm at least not young anymore .-) I installed
> > > mdk on this second harddrive of mine and the setup was with
> > > (cylinders, heads, sectors,) = (77545, 16, 63)
> > > However, after I moved the hard drive to a my new motherboard
> > > and installed mdk 8.2, fdisk and diskdrake report the geometry
> > > as (c,h,s) = (4865, 255, 63) and fdisk warns that partitions do
> > > not end on cylinder boundaries.
> > >
> > > Can I still use diskdrake to create new partitions on this hard
> > > drive?
> > >
> > > I tried to put a section into lilo.conf:
> > > [this is the disk in question. Nevertheless it is on the
> > > primary ide0 controller:]
> > > disk=/dev/hde
> > > sectors=63
> > > heads = 16
> > > cylinders = 774545
> > >
> > > But this didn't change the way fdisk and diskdrake saw the
> > > drive geometry.
> > >
> > > If I go into the bios, the geometry is listed with heads = 16
> > > and cylinders some value 4 thousand something (sorry, forgot to
> > > write down!)
> > >
> > > I have lba32 in /etc/lilo.conf and I do not share this hard
> > > drive with any other OS.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any suggestions? Resize the partitions to
> > > conform with heads = 255 using ext2online perhaps???
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Narfi.
> > >
> > > mobo: MSI k7t266 pro2
> > > /dev/hde: WD400BB
> > >
> > > fdisk -l /dev/hde
> > >
> > > Disk /dev/hde: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 4865 cylinders
> > > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
> > >
> > >Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
> > > /dev/hde1   * 164511528+  83  Linux
> > > Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
> > >  phys=(1014, 15, 63) should be (1014, 254, 63)
> > > /dev/hde264  3844  30359448   85  Linux
> > > extended Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
> > >  phys=(1023, 15, 63) should be (1023, 254, 63)
> > > /dev/hde56496255496+  82  Linux swap
> > > /dev/hde696   478   3071848+  83  Linux
> > > /dev/hde7   478  1116   5119600+  83  Linux
> > > /dev/hde8  1116  2901  14335744+  83  Linux
> > > /dev/hde9  2901  3155   2047720+  83  Linux
> > > /dev/hde10 3155  3206409216+  83  Linux
> > > /dev/hde11 3206  3844   5119600+  83  Linux

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Re: [newbie] [Q] Free X Server recommendation for Mandrake 8.2

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 21:47:51 -0300, "Patricio Cassain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hey !
> 
> My name is Pato from Argentina, I'm a newbie Mandrake user running version
> 8.2
> 
> I would like to get your opinion/recommendation based in your experience
> about what free X Server to install into Mandrake 8.2

I don't know anyone who _doesn't_ use XFree86. There are others, but XFree86
reigns in the desktop arena.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan

"Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their
important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it."
-- Linus Torvalds, after a hard drive crash.



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Re: [newbie] Mplayer message query

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

> OK so there are no good rpm versions, so I have to compile from tar 
> balls.

Have you tried PLF's packages? 

http://plf.zarb.org/rpm/

They work fine for me.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan

"Using the Altair 8800, Bill Gates and Paul Allen develop the first programming
language" -- The Microsoft Timeline




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RE: [newbie] Upgrading & LM8.2

[Marcia]

Dear All,


>I have been told that I have maximized my memory with 128 MB of ram since I 
>have a Pentium II MMX processor at a littlle over 200 megahertz. I feel like 
> I am either ready for a new computer or upgrading. I want to have 512 MB of 
>ram. Is there anyway that I can add that to my system now or must I upgrade 
>my motherboard and cpu? If I must upgrade I would like to go with the 
>Athlon-maybe one of the motherboard cpu combo kits. Which one is a very good 
>one that can handle at least 512 MB of ram, and of course work well with 
>Linux Mandrake 8.2?

Thanks.

Marcia

The motherboard is a GenuineIntel and I was told that the maximum memory is 
128 megs.

Thanks.

Marcia



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Re: [newbie] 8.2 install gone awry

[Scott Wagner]

- Original Message -
From: "Kaj Haulrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] 8.2 install gone awry


> On Tuesday 04 June 2002 05:28 am, Scott Wagner wrote:
> > Hi
> > I've copied the patch numerous times and each time I try the install
when
> > it comes to the part where you partition the hard drive the floppy drive
> > starts to work and it just works and works and nothing happens until I
> > finally exit the install.
> > What should the file type of the copied patch be?  Windows saves it as a
> > text file and I wonder if this is a problem.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > SW
> >
> Scott, what do you mean by "windows saves it as a text file"?
>
> Do you mean, that windows saves "patch.pl" as "patch.txt" ? - In that case
> it's no wonder everything goes awry. I can only think of one way that
could
> happen : if you use M$-file-explorer (I'm not sure of the name) to drag'n
> drop the file from the harddisk to the floppy. As far as I remember, this
> explorer-thingy doesn't show file-extensions, but nevertheless I doubt
that
> even a M$-app could behave that stupid.
>
> No, I think the problem is that the first time you tried to install 8.2
you
> created a file-system on your HD. Then you reached the "select-packages"
part
> and everything stopped. Now, when you try another install, this time with
the
> patch in place, the installer finds an "alien" partition-table and panics.
>
> May I recommend : Do an "expert" install, and choose to delete all
partitions
> except the windows-ones. Then, create linux-partitions once again to your
> liking. Remember to have the floppy in place.
>
> If still in trouble, repost to this list, I'm sure there are people here
to
> help you through this. I'm sure it's only some minor issue.
>
> HTH
> Kaj Haulrich
> Denmark
>
>






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Here's a description of my latest attempt::
I attempted to reinstall Mandrake 8.0, because using the patch I cannot get
to the disk partitioning step in 8.2.
I chose an expert install.  When I got to disk partitioning I chose the
wizard and clicked on "erase entire disk" and erased the hdb disk that my
I'm installing linux on (I have Windows on a seperate hd).  I then went back
and manually partitioned the drive and chose to format each new partition.
Install appears to go normally untill packages are almost all installed and
then it fails saying:
"Some important packages were not installed properly.  Either your cdrom
drive or your cd is defective.
Check the cdrom in an installed computer using 'rpm-qpl Mandrake/RPM/*.rpm'
"
(I dont have another computer available. I'm assuming this won't work on
windows.)
After I click  OK another error message appears: "No hdlist found".
I checked the hardware list and my cdrom drive, Philips cdrw 800 series is
listed as being "reported to work with Mandrake 8.0 by someone in the
community".
So  I installed 7.2  again, as much to have a bootloader as for any other
reason.
And that's where I'm at.
Is it time to look for another cd drive?
Any suggestions welcome. Well, almost any.
Thanks,
SW






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Re: [newbie] Konqueror / NT downloads

[John Richard Smith]

On Wednesday 05 June 2002 12:56 pm, you wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 June 2002 12:57 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
> > Your right , I got there just ahead of you, and did the same,
> > it revealed the list of files and directories , and amoungst them
> > were two files .html which looked suspicious to me and
> > I zapped them with the remove command , that allowed me back into
> > download2 directory via Left mouse clicking etc., where all my
> > downloaded files were pleasantly sitting there, phew !
> > But there ought to be someway of stopping konqueror/NT from doing
> > this. I bet it's something quite simple, but what.
> > NT doesn't seem to have anything in options to define what files
> > to allow to download like getright has. Konqueror has file
> > associations, but what do I do ? what to add , or what to omit ,
> > or what to rearrange ? I know not. Perhaps some of you out there
> > can suggest ?
>
> This, I think, is an interesting user interface problem; what do
> you do when there's a _redirection_ to a file you're trying to
> download.
>
> If I click on a file in Konqueror called 'bloggs.zip', which is
> linked to directly, it asks 'do you want to open it in Ark?'.
>
> If I click on a URL which points indirectly to a file called
> bloggs.zip (typically via a CGI script which points to a mirrored
> server) it asks 'what do you want to open it with?'
>
> This behaviour with direct download (particularly annoying with RAM
> files when you're trying to play an audio file) is probably a bug,
> but what happens when you drag and drop is hard to get round.
>
> If you drag and drop to the desktop, how does Konqueror 'know' that
> you want to save the ZIP file rather than the CGI file? (In that
> instance it's obvious - 99 per cent of time the ZIP file - but
> there are surely other instances where it's not).
>
> I think the HTML files you found are a result of all this.
>
> Alastair
Yes, I'm no expert but it sounds right.
You see , quite often you go to a download website and see something 
like   download zxcvb.src.rpmall highlighted in another colour 
you move your cursor over the highlighted text and the usual little 
white hand appears, and so you think you are  on the actual download 
file, you drag it across to the NT desktop icon and it loads 
perfectly nicely into NT window and eventually the download is 
completed.
Turns out you did not download the file you thought you were 
downloading because the download zxcvb.src.rpm was not a file but a 
link to another website, the result is that you favourite download 
directory has become a copy of that website.

All right, so now I know how to get back into the directory and I'm 
not so pertubed anymore. Still , perhaps I have been a little unfair 
on konqueror, maybe the real problem is NT. As I say in getright you 
have a whole configuration section given over to what kind of files 
to allow to download. There, the problem, if you can call it one , is 
that quite often you come across a new type of file that needs 
additing to the list so that they don't get rejected.  NT it would 
seem is an open book, you can dump amything at all on it and it will
accept it whithout question.
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Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs

[Dave Kufta]

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On Saturday 08 June 2002 09:21 pm, Femme wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 16:36:04 +0200 (CEST)
>
> Ralph Slooten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Dan W. Dooley wrote:
>
> 
>
> > I have been using Fluxbox for the last 5 months now or so, and it's so
> > damn fast compared to Gnome. Simple and Sweet. This is not an
> > andertisment for Fluxbox, as there are many simplified Desktop
> > managers around. Maybe give another one a try, and see if your
> > performance increases?
> >
> > Just my 2.2 Euro-cents ;-)
> >
> > Greetings
> > Ralph
>
> Ralph, would you be willing to email me either off list or on-list to
> help me setup Flux box!?
>
> I followed the directions precisely on their website for installing for
> newbies.  No joy! :(
>
> I cannot locate the "Executable" they tell you to find, nor do i
> understand how to edit the files they want me to edit.  They don't exist
> or I cannot find them. :(
>
> Any & all help would be a godsend at this point.  I did compile/make it
> correctly I believe...however I"m willing to start from scratch with
> better instructions 
>
> *Is nearly in tears over this ... was supposed to be very simple from
> the Docs I found which are here:
> http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docs/newdoc.starting.php#top *
>
> Ty Verymuch...and if anyone else can help, Please chime in!
>
> Sorry if this is piggybacking on another thread... I know its bad form.
>
>
> TIA all,
> Femme
I assume here you are running version 8.2 of Mandrake if so from a virtual 
console you should be able to enter the command Xtart and get a list of all 
available window managers. one of which will be fluxbox:

  WELCOME to Sessions Selector

1 KDE
2 Gnome
3 WindowMaker
4 Enlightenment
5 blackbox
6 XFce
7 IceWM
9 fvwm2
10 Fvwm1
11 KDE
15 afterstep
16 fluxbox

Which do you choose? (number)
at this point you would enter the number 16 and fluxbox will start ???


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Re: [newbie] test

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Saturday 08 June 2002 05:34 pm, D. Olson wrote:
> On Saturday 08 June 2002 02:51 pm, you wrote:
> > On Saturday 08 June 2002 01:10 pm, you wrote:
> > > On Saturday 08 June 2002 10:46 am, you wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 08 June 2002 12:11 am, D. Olson wrote:
> > > > > On Friday 07 June 2002 11:50 pm, you wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 23:12:01 -0400
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "D. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday 07 June 2002 07:33 pm, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday 08 June 2002 00:24, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Friday 07 June 2002 06:53 pm, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday 08 June 2002 00:23, Derek Byram wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Friday 07 June 2002 15:03, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Jay wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Oh tks! ;-)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > But as someone has mentioned before... this kind of
> > > > > > > > > > > > thread is only possible due to the subscribers
> > > > > > > > > > > > maturity level as well as nice sense of humor and
> > > > > > > > > > > > fellowship!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ricardo Castanho
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >I can't help but laugh at what this thread has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > become
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Some file permisions needed fixing and a setting in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > postfix
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Jay wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>I was having problems sending to the list, but I
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> fixed it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> fixed what? ;-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >  On Wednesday 05 June 2002 08:31 pm, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:24, D. Olson wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 05 June 2002 09:47 am, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 05 June 2002 06:32 am, Jay 
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > test
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It works.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- cmg
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What works?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jays test works.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > >  Jay who?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What thread???
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Don't push it ;o)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Don't push what
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why can't anyone speak coherently?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PS
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why can't you leave my sig in the mail ;p
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What sig???
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i told you, everyone. this thread belongs to the expert list
> > > > > > now we are all confused..
> > > > >
> > > > > What expert list?
> > > >
> > > > New record for posts per byte. Brevity rules.
> > >
> > > What record?
> >
> > You guys crack me up! ROTHFL
>
> What guys?
Huh?
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Re: [newbie] Surround Sound

[Femme]

On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 22:20:28 -0400
"D. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have an SB Live! 5.1, which appears to use the same drivers, and it
> does the same thing. I get sound in the rear speakers.
> 
> Now, I have a question about it...
> 
> This sound in the rear speakers is only mirrored stereo, right? Or is
> it true surround sound (4 speaker) that I get? IE: in games and stuff,
> should I get 4 separate channels of audio?
> 
> 
> 

Technically speaking you get whats called 4.1 Discrete surround sound
environments.  In english it means that each audio "channel" that is
piped to a diff speaker has its own sound coming out of it.

Example:  In a dungeon room, water dripping to your right, your Upper
RIGHT speaker will pipe that sound if its to your upper right in a game.
 With Older technology *IE before the SBLIVE! series* this wasn't
possible.  They "fooled" the ear by piping the same audio to all
channels & muting certains sounds out ... a very wasteful & useless
thing to do because itmeans the cards are working 2x as hard as they
have to.

If you have a 5.1 surround... Bonus!  Because you also get a centre
channel that gives ambient & immediate sound signals your ears will
interepret as "unidirectional" sounds... IE, a bomb blows up in front of
your face, your ear will "hear & see" it as being directly in front of
you as well as the ambient echos going to all the other speakers :).

I envy ya for your sound setup.  My lover has a Hercules XPGamer, comes
with a great breakout box...and she's got a nice soundcard that comes
with it.  Wonderful alternative to SbAudigy cards.  And just has one
plugin on the card for a huge cable to use, the other end hooks up to
the external breakout box.

Heh I hear her games all the way to the 3rd floor of our house.  *sighs
enviously*

Femme



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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.1 and KDE 3

[Mark D. Weaver]

Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Monday 10 June 2002 1:05 am, Mark D. Weaver wrote:
> 
>>Derek Jennings wrote:
>>
>>>Just as I pressed 'send' on that last message I realised you are
>>>upgrading from Mandrake 8.1 with KDE2.2.1
>>>
>>>You can still upgrade to KDE3, but you will not be able to use any of
>>>Texstars' KDE3  RPMs since they are for 8.2
>>>
>>>derek
>>
>>Derek,
>>
>>I realize this is a few days late, but I thought I'd add my two cents to
>>this thread. I've got Mandrake 8.2 running and it took three installs,
>>the last one being done without kde at all in order to get kde301
>>installed and working on this machine. I don't know what they've done to
>>KDE to make thing so miserable the packages so impossible to install,
>>but I'd love to find out.
>>
>>The first two attempts completely destroyed the X server rendering the
>>box concole only. The last install, as I mentioned was done on the
>>machine where KDE didn't exist at all and even then it was a HUGE pain
>>in the ass to get the packages to install. two days worth of dependency
>>issues to resolve and even after ALL the dependency issue were taken
>>care of would run the package install with the --test argument and it
>>would tell me that it such and such a package conflicted with one of the
>>kde3 packages I was trying to install. (as I mentioned I installed the
>>system "without" KDE). the fact that it was complaining about file
>>conflicts between a "non-existant" kde installation and the one I was
>>attempting to UPGRADE to was more then I could bear.
>>
>>Since I knew there weren't any real reasons for there to be a problem I
>>decided to go ahead with the install. while I didn't have to use the
>>--force argument I did have to use a very similarly forceful means to
>>get the packages to install. and through it all urpmi not only was NOT
>>my friend but was completely useless.
>>
>>the final command with which to install everything looked like this:
>>
>>  rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs --replacefiles --nodeps *.rpm
>>
>>So, my one and only question here is what in the world happened to kde
>>and those packages that they're so miserable to install these days? I
>>was expecting the texstar packages to be faster performing, and they
>>are, but as they are a newbie would never be able to get these things
>>installed without killing their system and wanting to walk away from
>>this bad experience forever!
>>
>>Mark
> 
> 
> Yes, the experience of installing KDE3 has been mixed for many people. With my 
> install it took me the best part of 2 days to get everything installed. Most 
> of that time was spent 'disentangling' KDE2 and KDE3  (Try looking at the 
> 'About' tab in applications like kmixer for example)   Moving KDE3 to /opt 
> has caused a lot of the problems. Many of the scripts still call applications 
> in /usr so you end with a mixture of KDE2 and 3.
> Texstar has got a revised 'startkde' script which resolves that. Also if you 
> want to use KDE3's version of kdm :-
> Edit /etc/X11/prefdm 
> to set the PATH 
> PATH=/opt/kde3/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin 
> 
> on the next boot it will find kde3 kdm
> 
> 
> KDE3 is clearly still 'work in progress', which of course is why Mandrake were 
> right in not including it in the 8.2 release. Be prepared to spend some time 
> struggling with it.
> 
> derek
> 

Thankfully, since the install is complete it's been fine since. not a 
bit of trouble.

Mark





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Re: [newbie] Mplayer message query

[Damian G]

On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 22:30:41 -0400
"Barry Michels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks for the quick instructions!  Worked first try (although I had to
> upgrade gcc from 2.96 to 3.0.4).
>

no problem. glad it worked.

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Re: [newbie] NSA / PGP

[Alan Dunford]

On Friday 31 May 2002 9:46 pm, you wrote:
> On Fri, 31 May 2002, Alastair Scott wrote:
> > -pgpenvelope processed message
> >
> > On Friday 31 May 2002 8:36 pm, shane wrote:
> > > i doubt that.  it is simply a matter of raw math.
> > > http://senderek.de/security/secret-key.protection.html
> >
> > Ah, but they don't use (general purpose) supercomputers. They use _very_
> > specialised computers; I read somewhere that the NSA has its own chip
> > >
> > > in short if they had a super computer than can only be imagined today
> > > (not built) it would take hundreds of years to guess a key.
> >
> > Ah, but they don't use (general purpose) supercomputers. They use _very_
> > specialised computers; I read somewhere that the NSA has its own chip
> > fabrication plant ...
> >
> > Your code cracker will likely be a PCI card inside a common-or-garden
> > PC, not a black box performing the breaststroke in a lake of liquid
> > nitrogen. (And the standard PC could be running Linux ;)
> >
> > And it may well use algorithms nobody in the 'free world' knows about.
> > There's a known precedent: one of the most astonishing things I've read
> > for ages is that the RSA algorithm was invented in secret about a
> > decade before it was 'invented in public':
> >
> > http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/7.04/crypto_pr.html
> >
> > Alastair
> > --
>
> Alastair,
>
> that is some awesome information. thanks for the link. So, it was the
> Brits who did it first?

Yes, according to Simon Singh in his "The Code Book" pages 284 on -- public 
key cryptography was first formulated by Clifford Cocks, a young Cambridge 
graduate in 1973, that is four years before Rivest, Shamir and Adleman and 
their RSA asymmetric cipher.  He was working at GCHQ (that is the British 
Government's Communications HQ ) at Cheltenham and I quote Cocks himself:-  
"... From start to finish, it took no more than half an hour. I was quite 
pleased with myself.  I thought, "Ooh, that's nice. I've been given a problem 
and I've solved it."   The book goes on to say that he did not fully 
appreciate the significance of his discovery.

on P288, though, Singh goes on to say " By 1975, James Ellis (who had set 
Cocks the original problem after he and many others had wrestled with it for 
years), Clifford Cocks and Malcolm Williamson had discovered all the 
fundamental aspects of public-key encryption, yet they all had to remain 
silent.."  Cocks was finally allowed to publish his work in 1997.

Cocks is still around and was interviewed on TV fairly recently.

Thought you might like to know.

 -- 

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Re: [newbie] Mplayer message query

[Barry Michels]

Thanks for the quick instructions!  Worked first try (although I had to
upgrade gcc from 2.96 to 3.0.4).

- Original Message -
From: "Damian G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mplayer message query


> download the tarball ( it contains MPlayer and Mencoder and it will do
> everything you say you need ) and at least one skin. ( the skin works
> for MPlayer, but for Mencoder you will still have to use CLI for now. )
>
> oh and you will probably need the codecs, too. download the package
> named "win32 codecs" unpack it and copy all of it's contents to
>
> /usr/lib/win32
>
> unpack the mplayer-0.90pre5 tarball, enter it's directory, and do this:
>
> ./configure --enable-gui
>
> make
>
> make install
>
> once you have done this, you unpack your mplayer skin to
> /home/(your-user)/.mplayer/Skin
>
> ( note the capital S on "Skin" ) and put the skin in a subdirectory.
> (i.e. if you downloaded "default" skin, copy it to
>
> /home/(user)/.mplayer/Skin/default/
>
> as you have compiled and installed MPlayer as root, make sure
> you give your user permission to read the skin files. otherwise
> mplayer will report it didn't find any.
>
> chmod +777 -R /home/(user)/.mplayer
>
>
> ... and i think that's all there is to it. MPlayer is a huge program,
> but all of those tons of information will be severely reduced once it
> compiles in your machine and excludes all the stuff your computer
> doesn't need. don't worry.
>
> once all is done, you can launch mplayer ( CLI ) or gmplayer ( GUI )
> mplayer's biggest problem for a newbie is choosing the video output ( "
vo" ),
> since you may found better features/speed with some drivers depending on
> your videocard. some video drivers installed may not even work.
> However SDL or X11 seem to work for almost everyone.
>
> ( " mplayer -vo sdl moviefile.avi " )
>
> you can also play  net streams, or to dump them to disk ;o)
>
> ( " mplayer -vo sdl mms://server.net/moviefile.asf " )
>
> and
>
> ( " mplayer -dumpstream mms://server.net/moviefile.asf " will create a
> "stream.dump" file that you can then rename to *.asf )
>
>
>
> and mencoder ( CLI ) encodes movie files in virtually any format
> available. notice, however, that mencoder requires very precise parameters
> in the commandline, so it requires some reading...
>
> HTH
>
>
> Damian




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Re: [newbie] Surround Sound

[D. Olson]

I have an SB Live! 5.1, which appears to use the same drivers, and it does 
the same thing. I get sound in the rear speakers.

Now, I have a question about it...

This sound in the rear speakers is only mirrored stereo, right? Or is it true 
surround sound (4 speaker) that I get? IE: in games and stuff, should I get 4 
separate channels of audio?








On Sunday 09 June 2002 08:58 pm, you wrote:
> I have an audigy too, and for me the rear (just a regular pair of powered
> computer speakers) work fine, I would check the plug.
>
> On Sunday 09 June 2002 08:18 pm, you wrote:
> > On Sun, 09 Jun 2002 18:35:06 +0100
> >
> > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I want to play audio CDs with good sound.  I have an Audigy card, and
> > > CDPlayer (Mandrake 8.2) plays the CDs, but only on front speakers.  No
> > > rear speakers, no sub.  Is it the app that can't cope, or do I need to
> > > do something to configure the sound card?
> > >
> > > Anne
> >
> > http://opensource.creative.com/
> >
> > Try there for drivers for the Audigy.  The reason you're not getting
> > sound beyond 2 speakers is b/c MDK drivers are compiled & coded for
> > "normal" speaker setups.  You obviously have 5.1 or 4.1 surround.
> >
> > Give that site a look
> >
> > Femme



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Re: [newbie] Surround Sound

[et]

I have an audigy too, and for me the rear (just a regular pair of powered 
computer speakers) work fine, I would check the plug.

On Sunday 09 June 2002 08:18 pm, you wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Jun 2002 18:35:06 +0100
>
> Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I want to play audio CDs with good sound.  I have an Audigy card, and
> > CDPlayer (Mandrake 8.2) plays the CDs, but only on front speakers.  No
> > rear speakers, no sub.  Is it the app that can't cope, or do I need to
> > do something to configure the sound card?
> >
> > Anne
>
> http://opensource.creative.com/
>
> Try there for drivers for the Audigy.  The reason you're not getting
> sound beyond 2 speakers is b/c MDK drivers are compiled & coded for
> "normal" speaker setups.  You obviously have 5.1 or 4.1 surround.
>
> Give that site a look
>
> Femme



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Re: [newbie] Mplayer message query

[Damian G]

> OK so there are no good rpm versions, so I have to compile from tar 
> balls.
> I've just spent 2 hours reading all the bumf on Mplayer website, and 
> I must say there is so much of it it is hard to take it all in in one 
> hit.
> 
> It seems to me leaving aside esotyeric things like skins, there is 
> only the one MPlayer-0.90pre5.tar.bz file to compile and install.
> Does this actually mean it's all there, you know, encription, 
> conversion, etc etc, the bits that really do matter and make the 
> programme all it is,because it seems a small download for a tar file 
> and for there to be everything that  you might conceiveably want.
> As I say I'm not particularly interested in sky blue pink graphics 
> but I do want all the really important encription conversion 
> stuff,(eg. DVD to DivX) and preferably in a gui guise.
> 
> John


download the tarball ( it contains MPlayer and Mencoder and it will do
everything you say you need ) and at least one skin. ( the skin works
for MPlayer, but for Mencoder you will still have to use CLI for now. )

oh and you will probably need the codecs, too. download the package
named "win32 codecs" unpack it and copy all of it's contents to

/usr/lib/win32

unpack the mplayer-0.90pre5 tarball, enter it's directory, and do this:

./configure --enable-gui

make 

make install

once you have done this, you unpack your mplayer skin to
/home/(your-user)/.mplayer/Skin

( note the capital S on "Skin" ) and put the skin in a subdirectory.
(i.e. if you downloaded "default" skin, copy it to

/home/(user)/.mplayer/Skin/default/

as you have compiled and installed MPlayer as root, make sure
you give your user permission to read the skin files. otherwise
mplayer will report it didn't find any.

chmod +777 -R /home/(user)/.mplayer


... and i think that's all there is to it. MPlayer is a huge program, 
but all of those tons of information will be severely reduced once it 
compiles in your machine and excludes all the stuff your computer 
doesn't need. don't worry.

once all is done, you can launch mplayer ( CLI ) or gmplayer ( GUI )
mplayer's biggest problem for a newbie is choosing the video output ( " vo" ),
since you may found better features/speed with some drivers depending on
your videocard. some video drivers installed may not even work. 
However SDL or X11 seem to work for almost everyone. 

( " mplayer -vo sdl moviefile.avi " )

you can also play  net streams, or to dump them to disk ;o)

( " mplayer -vo sdl mms://server.net/moviefile.asf " )

and

( " mplayer -dumpstream mms://server.net/moviefile.asf " will create a
"stream.dump" file that you can then rename to *.asf )



and mencoder ( CLI ) encodes movie files in virtually any format
available. notice, however, that mencoder requires very precise parameters
in the commandline, so it requires some reading...

HTH


Damian





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Re: [newbie] kde3.0.1 and kdm

[Mark D. Weaver]

Paul Kaplan wrote:
> I decided to install the first set of kde 3.0.1 rpms onto LM8.2 (the ones that 
> install into /usr).  After uninstalling the previous 3.0 rpms (that install 
> into /opt) and the 2.2.2 rpms, I discovered that kdm was broken and the 
> system now defaults to gdm as the login manager.  /usr/bin/kdm is still 
> installed on the system.
> 
> It is my impression that kde3.0.1 launched from gdm is noticibly slower than 
> 3.0 launched from gdm.  Has anyone else noticed this?  Any ideas how to 
> reactivate kdm?
> 
> TIA
> Paul

Hi Paul,

you will have to edit /etc/sysconfig/desktop and replace gdm with kdm, 
reboot and you're good to go with kdm.

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Re: [newbie] Java, Apache, Opera

[Todd Slater]

On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 18:06:21 +0100
Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sunday 09 June 2002 5:09 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
> > I thought I had Opera set up to run java--sometimes it works,
> > sometimes it doesn't. It works on the Sun page (http://java.sun.com/),
> > but it doesn't work when I try to play Diamond Mine
> > (http://www.popcap.com/index.php).
> >
> > I'm trying to serve the SOJA applet for serving SMIL
> > presentations--added MIME type to Apache, applet and SMIL presentation
> > work in Mozilla, not Opera. S, I think Apache is OK, but when
> > trying to look at the page in Opera, the Java Console pops up, and I
> > get the gray box that says Java Applet Loading, but that's as far as
> > it gets. The page in question is
> > http://clevername.homeip.net/present/soja.html.
> >
> > Is this a question for the Opera list, or does anybody here have
> > experience with this? I'm running 6.01 static QT. (LM 8.1)
> 
> 
> I think the www.popcap.com problem is because of the javascript used to
> launch the applet. Opera does not support some javascript extensions.
> That site works fine for me in Galeon/Mozilla.  - Nice game. My daughter
> will like that one.
> 
> As for your homepage, it does not work for me in Opera either, but 
> konqueror/Galeon has no trouble. You might like to mention that on the
> opera.linux newsgroup
> 
> (Nice looking kids  :-)
> 
> derek

Thanks--just the youngest is mine, but we've got another that will be here
soon! I did mention it on opera.linux. I read a bunch of posts regarding
java. The interesting thing (to me) is that it loads in Opera fine when
run locally, but when I try to pull it over the web, nothing.


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[newbie] CD Recording with no sound??

[Paul]

Hi all,

I already had 2 instances that I tried to burn an audio CD that after
burning had everything right, but there was no sound on it.

CDPlay crashes with an error, the CDplayer in the stereo plays the cd but no
sound at all.

MDK 8.2, 1.2Ghz Athlon, 256Mb Ram, 2 x 30Gb ATA100 disks.
TDK D-view 650Mb CD_R's, Plextor CD Rewriter 40x16x12.

Command:

cdparanoia -vB 1- ~/tmp/name && cdrecord -v speed=1 dev=0,0,0 -pad
~/tmp/track
*

In ~/tmp:

[paul@tbird paul]$ ls tmp/track*
tmp/track01.name  tmp/track04.name  tmp/track07.name  tmp/track10.name
tmp/track02.name  tmp/track05.name  tmp/track08.name
tmp/track03.name  tmp/track06.name  tmp/track09.name

Anyone have a clue what's wrong??
Paul

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Re: [newbie] WTF?????

[Anne Wilson]

D. Olson wrote:

> On Friday 07 June 2002 01:41 pm, you wrote:
> 
>>Have you got 2 ISP accounts?  Something like this happens if you are
>>connected on one ISP's account and trying to use the smtp of the other one.
>>
> 
> Nope... I got two incoming POP3 accounts, but I only have one outgoing... 
> Don't ask why, that's my college's dumb policy.
> 


I'm not sure I understand.  You have 2 inward POP3 a/cs, say POP3_1 and 
POP3_2.  When you get these error messages

1)  Which account are you connected to - i.e. which is the paid ISP that 
you are using at that time?

2)  Is the smtp address for outgoing mail on the same account?

If not, that is the likely cause of the problem.

Anne








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Re: [newbie] Gimp under Mandrake symbolic link

[Anne Wilson]

Derek Jennings wrote:

> On Sunday 09 June 2002 10:43 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> 
, however a symbolic link has to be made.
>>The instructions say it needs
>>
>>   ln -s /usr/bin/iscan ~/.gimp-1.2/plug-ins
>>
>>The path for iscan is correct, but I need to adjust the gimp path.  Can
>>anyone please tell me exactly where gimp plugins go in Mdk 8.2?
> Exactly where it says ~/.gimp-1.2/plug-ins
> 
> ~  means your home directory.  When you start gimp for the first time it will 
> create ~/.gimp-1.2


Since I hadn't got my old scanner set up I had never run Gimp under this 
install.  So *that's* why I couldn't 'locate' it!

> Also with your scanner doesn't it work with xsane or kooka? They will give you 
> all sorts of file formats. 


I'm still exploring the options.  xsane appears to run with Gimp, and I 
can scan and save with that (once I remembered that someone said 
right-click for everything in Gimp).  Kooka looks interesting, with lots 
of options like scan to OCR.  I could get the preview but then couldn't 
find how to get the scan proper.

It also seems to point at a hidden directory for image file saves.  This 
isn't exactly intuitive.

I'm pleased with progress so far, but feel that I'm missing important bits.

Anne





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[newbie] Importing netscape's address book

[Joan Tur]

Hallo!

I've now been using kmail for about 1,5 years, but now I need an email that's 
in a file called ./netscape/pab.na2 (netscape's 4.x address book).  I've 
tryed to import it using mozilla but it only recognizes LDIF, .tab, .csv and 
.txt formats  8-?

Thanks in advance  ;)
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Re: [newbie] Restoring deleted files with MC

[John Richard Smith]

On Sunday 09 June 2002 02:10, you wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 10:24:18 +0100
>
> John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Now that I know where Midnight Commander is, I want to use it to
> > restore a deleted file that has not been either written over or
> > formatted. Some kind soul suggested MC can do this, but how.
> >
> > John
> > --
> > John Richard Smith
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Use  the "Pulldown Menus" *its a F# key you hit to get them, then
> there is an "Undelete" function in there for Ext2 ONLY!
>
> :)
>
> Femme


Ahmm, well yes, I found that,but I cannot get it to restore, even an 
ext2 file set up and deleted as a test. Any guesses ?
John
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Re: [newbie] I like this "Mozilla1!"

[Azrael]

Charlie wrote:

>June 9, 2002 10:07 am, Joan Tur wrote:
>  
>
>>Es Divendres 07 Juny 2002 21:40, en Charlie va escriure:
>>
>>
>>>June 7, 2002 01:00 pm, Paul Rodriguez wrote:
>>>  
>>>
I have to say, I really love using Galeon.  I never really saw the use
in it till I tried it a little.  It's just so much faster (being a
gtk-native mozilla basically).  And I really love having those quick
search bars.  But after downloading and installing the latest mozilla,
galeon crashes as soon as I open it.  I tried upgrading, but there were
so many dependencies.

If I use the mandrake rpm's:

error: failed build dependencies:
GConf-devel >= 1.0.4 is needed by galeon-1.2.1-2mdk
libglade-devel is needed by galeon-1.2.1-2mdk
gnome-vfs-devel is needed by galeon-1.2.1-2mdk
mozilla-devel = 1.0 is needed by galeon-1.2.1-2mdk


>>I've got the following installed:
>>
>>[quini@quinipt .netscape]$ rpm -q mozilla
>>mozilla-1.0-0.rc2.2mdk
>>[quini@quinipt .netscape]$ rpm -q galeon
>>galeon-1.2.1-2mdk
>>[quini@quinipt .netscape]$
>>
>>That's under 8.2 and using rpmdrake & a cooker ftp.  Dependencies were
>>solved autimatically.
>>
>>
>~~
>Thanks Joan;
>
>I would probably have waited for the cooker Mozilla1 release, since I was 
>already running the same one you are, but got in a rush to try it. It's 
>working, and as I mentioned previously, I avoid most of the Gnome apps 
>including Galeon.
>
>I'll give it a stab though just to see if it's improved much over what caused 
>me to avoid it back in 7.2 Freq.
>  
>
>
>
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Re: [newbie] I like this "Mozilla1!"

[Charlie]

June 9, 2002 10:07 am, Joan Tur wrote:
> Es Divendres 07 Juny 2002 21:40, en Charlie va escriure:
> > June 7, 2002 01:00 pm, Paul Rodriguez wrote:
> > > I have to say, I really love using Galeon.  I never really saw the use
> > > in it till I tried it a little.  It's just so much faster (being a
> > > gtk-native mozilla basically).  And I really love having those quick
> > > search bars.  But after downloading and installing the latest mozilla,
> > > galeon crashes as soon as I open it.  I tried upgrading, but there were
> > > so many dependencies.
> > >
> > > If I use the mandrake rpm's:
> > >
> > > error: failed build dependencies:
> > >   GConf-devel >= 1.0.4 is needed by galeon-1.2.1-2mdk
> > >   libglade-devel is needed by galeon-1.2.1-2mdk
> > >   gnome-vfs-devel is needed by galeon-1.2.1-2mdk
> > >   mozilla-devel = 1.0 is needed by galeon-1.2.1-2mdk
>
> I've got the following installed:
>
> [quini@quinipt .netscape]$ rpm -q mozilla
> mozilla-1.0-0.rc2.2mdk
> [quini@quinipt .netscape]$ rpm -q galeon
> galeon-1.2.1-2mdk
> [quini@quinipt .netscape]$
>
> That's under 8.2 and using rpmdrake & a cooker ftp.  Dependencies were
> solved autimatically.
~~
Thanks Joan;

I would probably have waited for the cooker Mozilla1 release, since I was 
already running the same one you are, but got in a rush to try it. It's 
working, and as I mentioned previously, I avoid most of the Gnome apps 
including Galeon.

I'll give it a stab though just to see if it's improved much over what caused 
me to avoid it back in 7.2 Freq.
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Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs

[Joan Tur]

Es Dissabte 08 Juny 2002 18:49, en shane va escriure:
> seriously, to windows, cpu rules.  to linux it is RAM.
That's right.  My laptop's battery life is always longer with linux than any 
windows -98, 2000, XP-...

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Re: [newbie] Squid for internet client?

[Alastair Scott]

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On Sunday 09 June 2002 5:44 pm, Joan Tur wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> I was wondering if it was a good idea for a computer that's used to
> surf through internet without acting as http server for any other
> computers to install squid.
>
> Maybe it would do the same work as the browsers' cache ?  I'm just
> not sure of what squid does.

It's in effect a big shared cache ... which is pointless if only one 
computer is 'sharing' the cache as its browsers have perfectly good 
local caches.

That said, the question is a useful one, as http://www.squid-cache.org/ 
doesn't make that point clear.

(As an aside, this

http://wwwcache.ja.net/

is an interesting read and shows what's involved in running huge Squid 
caches 'in real life' - JANET is the United Kingdom universities' 
network).

Alastair
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[newbie] Squid for internet client?

[Joan Tur]

Hallo!

I was wondering if it was a good idea for a computer that's used to surf  
through internet without acting as http server for any other computers to 
install squid.

Maybe it would do the same work as the browsers' cache ?  I'm just not sure 
of what squid does.

Thanks in advance  ;)
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Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs

[Joan Tur]

Es Dissabte 08 Juny 2002 16:09, en Jon Doe va escriure:
> On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 08:39:28 -0500
>
> "Dan W. Dooley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I like the full featured aspect of KDE and though I haven't examined
> > Gnome that closely, it looks interesting.  I would not want to go to
> > something severely stripped down.  Not if I'm ever going to think in
> > terms of a Windows replacement, which I'd like to think of.
>
> I am sure I'll get flamed for this, but I don't think Linux is a
> "replacement" for Windows. Linux is a robust *nix clone. I think you can
> "use" Linux instead of Windows.
> But I personally hope that Linux is never a "replacement" for Windows. I
> don't like Windows and don't want Linux to be just like Windows.

Linux is for me an easy, unexpensive, strong and quick way of doing 
everything.  I don't play games often, and I don't need to make "backups" of 
protected CDs so I'm using *almost* linux since april 2000.  From 1992 to 
april 2000 i've been using IBM's OS/2 (purchased 2.11, 3 and 4), but IBM has 
discontinued supporting it.

So linux is not a windows' replacement for me.  I've never needed to use 
windows  ;)

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Re: [newbie] I like this "Mozilla1!"

[Joan Tur]

Es Divendres 07 Juny 2002 21:40, en Charlie va escriure:
> June 7, 2002 01:00 pm, Paul Rodriguez wrote:
> > I have to say, I really love using Galeon.  I never really saw the use
> > in it till I tried it a little.  It's just so much faster (being a
> > gtk-native mozilla basically).  And I really love having those quick
> > search bars.  But after downloading and installing the latest mozilla,
> > galeon crashes as soon as I open it.  I tried upgrading, but there were
> > so many dependencies.
> >
> > If I use the mandrake rpm's:
> >
> > error: failed build dependencies:
> > GConf-devel >= 1.0.4 is needed by galeon-1.2.1-2mdk
> > libglade-devel is needed by galeon-1.2.1-2mdk
> > gnome-vfs-devel is needed by galeon-1.2.1-2mdk
> > mozilla-devel = 1.0 is needed by galeon-1.2.1-2mdk
I've got the following installed:

[quini@quinipt .netscape]$ rpm -q mozilla
mozilla-1.0-0.rc2.2mdk
[quini@quinipt .netscape]$ rpm -q galeon
galeon-1.2.1-2mdk
[quini@quinipt .netscape]$

That's under 8.2 and using rpmdrake & a cooker ftp.  Dependencies were solved 
autimatically.

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Re: [newbie] problem with install Compaq 56k Modem

[Xecut1on]

search compaq.com..i know the presarios and alphas are so dont bother looking there.

Re: [newbie] problem with install Compaq 56k Modem

[et]

On Sunday 09 June 2002 12:40 pm, you wrote:
> theres like 5 that arent compat.
kwel and OK so what



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Re: [newbie] Java, Apache, Opera

[Derek Jennings]

On Sunday 09 June 2002 5:09 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
> I thought I had Opera set up to run java--sometimes it works, sometimes it
> doesn't. It works on the Sun page (http://java.sun.com/), but it doesn't
> work when I try to play Diamond Mine (http://www.popcap.com/index.php).
>
> I'm trying to serve the SOJA applet for serving SMIL presentations--added
> MIME type to Apache, applet and SMIL presentation work in Mozilla, not
> Opera. S, I think Apache is OK, but when trying to look at the page in
> Opera, the Java Console pops up, and I get the gray box that says Java
> Applet Loading, but that's as far as it gets. The page in question is
> http://clevername.homeip.net/present/soja.html.
>
> Is this a question for the Opera list, or does anybody here have
> experience with this? I'm running 6.01 static QT. (LM 8.1)


I think the www.popcap.com problem is because of the javascript used to launch 
the applet. Opera does not support some javascript extensions. That site 
works fine for me in Galeon/Mozilla.  - Nice game. My daughter will like that 
one.

As for your homepage, it does not work for me in Opera either, but 
konqueror/Galeon has no trouble. You might like to mention that on the
opera.linux newsgroup

(Nice looking kids  :-)

derek



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Re: [newbie] problem with install Compaq 56k Modem

[mike]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> theres like 5 that arent compat.


Ok, for those not as minimulistic as you , which 5 exactly are not
compatable?

names and numbers please.

 

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Re: [newbie] problem with install Compaq 56k Modem

[Xecut1on]

theres like 5 that arent compat.

Re: [newbie] xcdroast help

[John Richard Smith]

On Wednesday 05 June 2002 12:55, you wrote:
> Franki wrote:
> > basically, you need to run it as root and set what users can do
> > with it..
> >
> > chose "setup"  then go through and set all the various elements..
> >
> > in particular the "users" select your username and anyone elses
> > that should be able to use it. and set what they can do...
> >
> > once you finish, save the configuration, then go back and run it
> > as your username..
> >
> > all should work fine.
> >
> >
> > rgds
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]*On Behalf Of
> > *Heather Reed *Sent:* Wednesday, 5 June 2002 7:41 PM
> > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *Subject:* [newbie] xcdroast help
> >
> > Hi all
> > I have just installed xcdroast (together with cdrecord). When
> > I try to open it, I get a message telling me to configure as
> > root, but no info as to what to configure where or how. I can't
> > seem to get to a help file though, and am totally confused :-(( I
> > have looked at various howtos on the net, but they are way above
> > me I'm afraid. Can anyone out there give me, or point me to and
> > idiots guide (and believe me, in this I am an idiot :-))? I am
> > running 8.2, and have a memorex IDE rewriter installed, which is
> > being picked up by harddrake OK. it is my only CD drive, and I
> > hate having to reboot into windows (gr) to burn CDs.
> > Alternatively, a pointer to other CD burner apps that might do
> > the job as well and be easier to get going (if such things exist)
> > would do just as well.
> > Any help would be gratefully received.
> > Ta muchly
> > Heather
>
> I must say however.. that no cd burning program I have used on
> linux is as easy as things like Easy CD creator or Nero.
> xcdroast or gcombust just are a little too unintuitive to use fast
> and easily - for me anyway.
> I can use xcdroast.. but it takes me ust too long each time.
>
> -- Azrael
Just as a matter of general interest, there is one thing that EZCD5 
and Nero cannot do that Xcdroast can. That is to copy and write to 
disc Continuous Multiple  Audio Track, that is those audio discs that 
have many tracks but NO GAPS. About 20 to 30% of the teenage 
popular music market is sold in this catagory these days.
John
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[newbie] Java, Apache, Opera

[Todd Slater]

I thought I had Opera set up to run java--sometimes it works, sometimes it
doesn't. It works on the Sun page (http://java.sun.com/), but it doesn't
work when I try to play Diamond Mine (http://www.popcap.com/index.php).

I'm trying to serve the SOJA applet for serving SMIL presentations--added
MIME type to Apache, applet and SMIL presentation work in Mozilla, not
Opera. S, I think Apache is OK, but when trying to look at the page in
Opera, the Java Console pops up, and I get the gray box that says Java
Applet Loading, but that's as far as it gets. The page in question is
http://clevername.homeip.net/present/soja.html.

Is this a question for the Opera list, or does anybody here have
experience with this? I'm running 6.01 static QT. (LM 8.1)

-- 
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simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level,
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Re: [newbie] problem with install Compaq 56k Modem

[FARSHAD]

i don't know what's hsp? micromodem ?
i have a Compaq 56k Modem , and that will support 
DSL
and that's PCI and i think that's a software modem 
no
harware modem but i'm not sure ...
thanks
bye
 
 

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  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] problem with 
  install Compaq 56k Modem
  do you have the hsp56k micromodem? 

Re: [newbie] Mplayer message query

[John Richard Smith]

On Saturday 08 June 2002 13:16, you wrote:

> As great it is that people try make RPM's of Mplayer for public
> use, but I still have to see 1 really successful build that works
> on all systems. In my opinion there is none.. Mplayer builds to
> YOUR system.. depending on what software / hardware you have. It's
> not as simple as a simple binary, but a carefully built package
> designed for performance. You see, they could build DeCss supprt
> in, but what point does that have if a user doesn't even have a DVD
> player?
>
> Go tho the Mplayer site, download the tarball (new release today)
> and read the docs, and there should be no problems. Yes it does
> take time at first, I give you that, but at least then you have a
> working MPlayer ;-)
>
> Greetings
> Ralph

OK so there are no good rpm versions, so I have to compile from tar 
balls.
I've just spent 2 hours reading all the bumf on Mplayer website, and 
I must say there is so much of it it is hard to take it all in in one 
hit.

It seems to me leaving aside esotyeric things like skins, there is 
only the one MPlayer-0.90pre5.tar.bz file to compile and install.
Does this actually mean it's all there, you know, encription, 
conversion, etc etc, the bits that really do matter and make the 
programme all it is,because it seems a small download for a tar file 
and for there to be everything that  you might conceiveably want.
As I say I'm not particularly interested in sky blue pink graphics 
but I do want all the really important encription conversion 
stuff,(eg. DVD to DivX) and preferably in a gui guise.

John
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Re: [newbie] cylinders, sectors and heads trouble

[H. Narfi Stefansson]

On Sunday 09 June 2002 06:55, etharp wrote:
> more info about the new MOBO is in order, in particular the IDE
> controller (is it a HPT win-RAID?)
>
No, I stay clear of the raid controllers...
The MSI k7T266 pro2 comes in different flavours and I chose the one which 
doesn't have any raid controllers.

On the motherboard, I have:
Primary master: the wd drive, /dev/hde
secondary master: a DVD drive, /dev/hdg
I also have a PCI controller card and on it I have:
primary master: an old IBM hard drive for backups: /dev/hda
primary slave: zip drive: /dev/hdb
secondary master: CD-writer: /dev/hdc--> /dev/scd0

A correction to the c,h,s count in the bios: 
it is (19158, 16, 255).

Narfi.

> On Saturday 08 June 2002 10:57 pm, Narfi wrote:
> > In my previous life, I was young and ignorant and I bought a WD drive!
> > ... well, I'm at least not young anymore .-) I installed mdk on this
> > second harddrive of mine and the setup was with (cylinders, heads,
> > sectors,) = (77545, 16, 63)
> > However, after I moved the hard drive to a my new motherboard and
> > installed mdk 8.2, fdisk and diskdrake report the geometry as
> > (c,h,s) = (4865, 255, 63) and fdisk warns that partitions do not end
> > on cylinder boundaries.
> >
> > Can I still use diskdrake to create new partitions on this hard drive?
> >
> > I tried to put a section into lilo.conf:
> > [this is the disk in question. Nevertheless it is on the primary ide0
> > controller:]
> > disk=/dev/hde
> > sectors=63
> > heads = 16
> > cylinders = 774545
> >
> > But this didn't change the way fdisk and diskdrake saw the drive
> > geometry.
> >
> > If I go into the bios, the geometry is listed with heads = 16 and
> > cylinders some value 4 thousand something (sorry, forgot to write
> > down!)
> >
> > I have lba32 in /etc/lilo.conf and I do not share this hard drive with
> > any other OS.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions? Resize the partitions to conform
> > with heads = 255 using ext2online perhaps???
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Narfi.
> >
> > mobo: MSI k7t266 pro2
> > /dev/hde: WD400BB
> >
> > fdisk -l /dev/hde
> >
> > Disk /dev/hde: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 4865 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
> >
> >Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
> > /dev/hde1   * 164511528+  83  Linux
> > Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
> >  phys=(1014, 15, 63) should be (1014, 254, 63)
> > /dev/hde264  3844  30359448   85  Linux extended
> > Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
> >  phys=(1023, 15, 63) should be (1023, 254, 63)
> > /dev/hde56496255496+  82  Linux swap
> > /dev/hde696   478   3071848+  83  Linux
> > /dev/hde7   478  1116   5119600+  83  Linux
> > /dev/hde8  1116  2901  14335744+  83  Linux
> > /dev/hde9  2901  3155   2047720+  83  Linux
> > /dev/hde10 3155  3206409216+  83  Linux
> > /dev/hde11 3206  3844   5119600+  83  Linux



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Re: [newbie] cdrecord and bootable cd

[Jerry]

- Original Message -
From: Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] cdrecord and bootable cd


> Check your bios and make sure your boot order puts the cd rom before the
> hard drive.  (for example, my boot device order is floppy, cdrom, hard
> drive, other ATA devices)  If the hard drive is before the cdrom it won't
> boot from the cd without a floppy.  Hope that fixes it for ya! :-)
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
> "New hat?  Forget it."  --Laurie Anderson
> - Original Message -
> From: Ross Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 5:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] cdrecord and bootable cd
>
>
> > On Sunday 09 June 2002 12:15, Gerald Waugh wrote:
> > > I am using cdrecord to cut a bootable iso image to a CD
> > > Only the CD I burn will not boot.. I used the following;
> > > # cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 speed=4 botablet-image.iso
> > >
> > > The CD looks normal when I mount and ls the contents.
> > > I put it in a system to boot, and the drive activity led flashes a few
> > > timea and the PC goes ahead and boots from the hard drive.
> > >
> > > I have a CD cut by a friend of mine, of a similar iso, using Nero, it
> will
> > > boot.
> > >
> > > What could I be doing wrong?
> > > TIA
> >
> > Did your friend use a similar or the identical iso to cut the disk that
> works?
> >
> > If it was not an identical one, is botablet-image.iso one that you have
> made
> > yourself using mkisofs?
> >
> > If so then this could maybe be the place to start looking.
> > /usr/share/doc/mkisofs-1.15/README.eltorito
> > could be of help to you.
> >
> > HTH
> > Ross
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [newbie] xcdroast and burning CD's.

[darklord]

On Saturday 08 June 2002 04:21 pm, you wrote:

> Hi,
>I've had excellent results with xcdroast,last three Mandrake releases.
> No problems at all. Pentium IV 1.5 gigahertz, GA-81DX mobo,Cendyne
> 16x10x40x burner.Currently running MDK 8.2. Had a lot of problems before I
> bought this burner. Just my 2 cents worth.
>   Dan

Hi there, Dan! Well, I had used Xcdroast under 8.1 and was very happy with it 
there, and under 8.2, I used it to burn files to CD's with no probs. either. 
It was just when I went to duplicate a CD that it fell down. I've got an 
Adaptec SCSI card, running a Toshiba DVD and a Plextor CDRW. Xcdroast finds 
both, has them in correct positions on the SCSI chain, but will not read any 
CD in my DVD drive. It always reports that its an empty CDRW. Gcombust, under 
this same setup works fine. I even deleted Xcdroasts conf files and started 
over just in case. Still no go - and this is as root, or with the user I had 
setup... Don't forget, this same exact setup worked just fine under 8.1 so I 
dunno...

I'm glad its working for you though, I did like it! :-)

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Re: [newbie] Access to win partitions

[Manuel Soto]

I the same problem w/ 8.1 and rw partitions

/dev/hda1 on /mnt/win_c type vfat (rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850)
/dev/hdc1 on /mnt/win_c2 type vfat (rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850)


On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 07:03, Moshe Kaminsky wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Perhaps it is mounted without write permission. To check that type
>   mount
> and check if it says 'rw' in the line corresponding to the windows partition.
> If that is the problem, you can fix it as follows:
>   umount 
>   mount +w 
> If this helps, you can modify the /etc/fstab file for this to happen
> automatically. See 
>   man mount
> and
>   man fstab
> for details.
> Another possibility is that the windows partitions is of type ntfs. In
> that case, you can't write there, but I guess it's not it, since you say
> you had write permission before.
> 
> HTH
> Moshe
> 
> * Matt Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020604 13:37]:
> > I posted yesterday about changing access rights to my windows partitions
> > but i'm not sure it came up as i never actually received it!
> > 
> > anyway, since reinstalling 8.2 i cannot get write permissions to my
> > windows hard drives where basically all my documents that i need are
> > stored etc.  The 1st time i installed 8.2 i didn't have to do anything
> > to get both read/write access to my windows drives so i can't work out
> > how to get it now. I tried changing permissions using chmod a+w win_c
> > but that doesn't give me write permissions, so either something is up or
> > i'm using the wrong commands - probably the latter!!  Can anyone help me
> > as this is a real pain as i've just got most things working in Linux and
> > was about to change Linux to my default o/s.  
> > 
> > Also does anybody else have any problems with Open Office.org 1.0
> > crashing loads under Ximian-Gnome?
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Matt
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] xcdroast and burning CD's.

[darklord]

On Saturday 08 June 2002 11:09 am, you wrote:



> alias bdcd="cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=0,0 -data"
>  (need to make cd_image first, eg, 'mkisofs -r -o cd_image ')
> alias biso="cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=0,0"
> alias bacd="cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=0,0 -pad -audio *.wav"

Thanks for the reply and the info! :-)

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Re: [newbie] Attempting to re-compile Mandrake vmlinuz-2.4.18-6mdk

[Tom Brinkman]

On Saturday 08 June 2002 03:30 pm, Mike Pruden wrote:
> Need some help re-compiling version 2.4.18-6mdk of mandrake linux. 
> I installed this version from a cdrom onto my laptop.  The problem
> I am encountering is that this version enables automatic power
> management by default.  On my laptop SIS630 this causes my laptop
> to power down every few secounds.
>
> I am familiar with using make -e on tar files and changing the
> parameters that I need to change, but since I installed this from a
> cdrom I do not find any tar file in the /usr/src directory, or
> anywhere else that I can think to look.  The only kernel that I can
> identify is in the /boot directory, and it is listed as
> vmlinuz-2.4.18-6mdk.  I am not sure how to re-compile this to
> enable me to turn off the automatic power management option.

   You need to have kernel-source-2.4.18-6mdk  rpm installed. Then 
see the instructions here 
   http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/index.html#ku
   You _must_ begin with 'make mrproper'  (see page 3). Then copy a 
config from /boot, eg, (in /usr/src/linux) 
 'cp /boot/config-2.4.18-6mdk .config'
   Edit Makefile and change EXTRAVERSION = to your liking.  Also 
uncomment the line  export  INSTALL_PATH=/boot
Then you can run 'make xconfig', and continue on with the compile 
steps. 'make dep && make clean && make bzImage && make modules'  and
'make modules_install && make install'

   The last command, 'make install' will install the proper files to 
/boot and edit/run lilo for you.  So make sure you do the Makefile 
edits above.  Your new kernel will then be an option when you reboot.

Have you tried turning off the apm service in Mandrake Control 
Center?  I know practically nothin 'bout laptops, but I suspect 
compiling a new kernel's not gonna fix your hardware problem. 
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Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs

[Dan W. Dooley]

Hi Robin, actually the extract below was mine, not Randy Kramer's.  I'm not
going to prolong this discussion but will make my FINAL comments directly
related to yours.  Which are good, by the way.  I will make no follow-up
public comments or response on this topic.  If someone is interested in
constructive discussion with me OFF LIST, and is willing to be helpful
rather than strictly critical, it will be most welcome.  My email address is
shown below.  I can certainly use the help as I still have networking
difficulties.

I can not speak for XP as I'm not running it here.  I am running Windows
2000 Pro, Server and NT Server 4.  You're right, XP would hardly run on 64
MB.  2000 wouldn't run it's best either.  It sure wouldn't handle any
significant applications.  My comparison was between 2000 Server, NT Server
and KDE on the same machine with the same hardware configuration.

During the install phase of MD8.2 (using the Expert mode) I went in (it's
one of the final steps in the process) and turned off a number of services,
leaving on only those which appeared to be necessary for operation.  I was
also very careful (though no guarantee of accuracy) to install those apps
necessary for operation of the interface.  My hard drive space on that box
is limited so I couldn't install all I would have liked to look at.  I have
no sound card in that machine so I turned off everything related to that,
for example.

As for security, that is an area of setup I claim scant knowledge of.
During the install process, there are a number of default settings.  When in
question, I followed those suggestions.  When it did offer different levels
of security, I chose the light one.  If I recall, that was the one
recommended if the machine is expected to access the Internet.

During the operational phases of the so-called "test", I was not running any
productivity applications.  Neither in Linux nor NT (which is currently
resident on the machine in a dual boot mode) did I try to run anything not
installed as part of the initial install process.  I did not try to run any
Office apps in KDE for example.  I was doing basic functions such as Control
Center operations to view/configure various things, or in NT running Control
Panel to do the same things within that OS.  Likewise in browsing, using
Konquerer and some of the other browser devices (file managers) to have a
look around, as well as using Explorer in NT.

So, perhaps we're not comparing apples to apples.  I'm in an operating
system, running a desktop and trying to explore the basic tools of that
desktop.  One desktop being NT's and the other KDE/Gnome.  I was certainly
under the impression that I was trying to use equivalent (equal or not)
tools between the two to perform basic equivalent tasks.  Apparently,
bringing up the mouse configuration applet in KDE Control Center (or where
ever) to configure mouse functions is not comparable to bringing up the
mouse configuration applet in NT's Control Panel.  Interesting!

When responses to comments or questions made in the process of trying to
learn something new are on the order of, "the reason you can't get it right
is because you are a dunce" (not your comments, Robin) when the writer of
such knows nil of my technical background or intellectual level, certainly
forms a suspicious bias in my mind.

Dan W. Dooley  WB5TKA  Bedford, Texas
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From: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs


> Randy Kramer wrote:
>
> >
> >>The other machine I had tried it on some months ago is a much faster one
and
> >>at the time had 256 meg. of RAM and a much bigger harddrive partition on
> >>which I was dual booting between Linux and Win 2000Pro.
> >>
> >>I like the full featured aspect of KDE and though I haven't examined
Gnome
> >>that closely, it looks interesting.  I would not want to go to something
> >>severely stripped down.  Not if I'm ever going to think in terms of a
> >>Windows replacement, which I'd like to think of.
> >>
> So is it a case of comparing apples and pears (i.e. recent versions of
> KDE with old versions of Windows)?  At least KDE will run on my office
> machine, whereas I doubt if XP would (it only has 64MB of RAM). Like it
> or not, desktops and applications that want to be full-featured tend to
> assume that people have at the very least 128MB of RAM on at least a
> 500MHz CPU, preferably more and faster.  I'd be interested to see
> performance compared between XP and Mandrake 8.2/KDE, with both boxes
> running the same kinds of services with the same level of security
> (well, to the extent that XP can get the same level of security!).
>
> Sir Robin, now happily back in KDE





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Re: [newbie] xcdroast help

[Gerald Waugh]

On Wednesday 05 June 2002 10:21 am, Gerald Waugh wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 June 2002 08:01 am, Randy Donohoe wrote:
> > Log out of your user account and log back in as root. Open up xcdroast
> > and configure. The most complicated thing is when you set the path. The
> > last tab in configuration is called options or something, but it's where
> > you set permissions for the user accounts, if you're the only user give
> > yourself all the permissions and you won't have to go back to root to
> > change things. Randy
>
> [root@gail root]# xcdroast
> ** WARNING **: Installation problem? No set-uid bit on /usr/bin/mkisofs
> ** WARNING **: Installation problem? No set-uid bit on /usr/bin/readcd
>
> I also get dialog box
>No root configuration file found!
> Please enter Setup and don't forget to add users
>who may also use X-CD-Roast

Oops, as soon as I hit 'OK' on the dialog box, I got into X-CD-Roast
with the Setup Button ready for me...

The Device-Scan only shows the CD writer /dev/scd0 [ cdwriter ide 1610]
The Reader says the same, I do have a reader CDROM but it doesn't show up

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Re: [newbie] cdrecord and bootable cd

[Ross Pearson]

On Sunday 09 June 2002 12:15, Gerald Waugh wrote:
> I am using cdrecord to cut a bootable iso image to a CD
> Only the CD I burn will not boot.. I used the following;
> # cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 speed=4 botablet-image.iso
>
> The CD looks normal when I mount and ls the contents.
> I put it in a system to boot, and the drive activity led flashes a few
> timea and the PC goes ahead and boots from the hard drive.
>
> I have a CD cut by a friend of mine, of a similar iso, using Nero, it will
> boot.
>
> What could I be doing wrong?
> TIA

Did your friend use a similar or the identical iso to cut the disk that works?

If it was not an identical one, is botablet-image.iso one that you have made 
yourself using mkisofs? 

If so then this could maybe be the place to start looking.
/usr/share/doc/mkisofs-1.15/README.eltorito
could be of help to you. 

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.1 and KDE 3

[Derek Jennings]

Mark
You can still use 'most' of the applications on your distribution CD's 
(including xmms)  Those applications that use the KDE2.2.2 widget library 
libqt2 still work because you can keep libqt2 installed alongside the new 
libqt3. Those applicatons that use the gtk widget set are unaffected by the 
upgrade.

A few applications (like komba2) need to be upgraded, but they are either 
included in the kde3 rpm or are available from places like Texstars site at 
www.pclinuxonline.com  
ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/


Many people have found installing KDE3.0.1 alongside KDE2.2.2 a 
straightforward experience.  However my own experience is that 
'disentangling' KDE2 and KDE3 takes a bit of work and even now my KDE2.2.2 
comes up as a mixture of the two.
Some useful links that may help you are 
http://www.club-nihil.net/mub/viewtopic.php?t=74
http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2310
http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1797
http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1801

The best tip I can give is do not resort to 'forcing' RPMS You will probably 
regret it. 

HTH

derek





On Tuesday 04 June 2002 12:47 am, Mark Evans wrote:
> Hi
>
> Could someone answer a question regarding upgrading KDE from 2.2.1 to KDE 3
> under Mandrake 8.1.
>
> Will the RPM's on the Mandrake distro disks still install under KDE 3?  I
> have read sonewhere that KDE 2... binaries are not compatible with KDE 3. 
> I don't want to install KDE 3 only to find that I can't install other
> software, such as XMMS for example.
>
> Mark Evans




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Re: [newbie] Gimp under Mandrake symbolic link

[rjp]

> Also with your scanner doesn't it work with
xsane or kooka? They will give
> you all sorts of file formats.
> Scannerdrake from Mandrake Control Centre lists
your scanner as supported
> by xsane  It should be able to configure it
without downloading any driver.
> There is also an xsane plugin for gimp which
will allow you to scan from
> inside gimp.

The Epson Perfection 1650 scanner works fine for
me in Mandrake 8.2, scanning from within gimp
using the xsane plugin.
I would recommend that this is probably the best
way for you to go. 

I can let you have the specific configuration
details if you need them. 
But pretty much all I did to set up my scanner was
install the sane-backends and libraries rpms and
the xsane-gimp rpm.

Then if you have a look at:

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/hard-details.php3?F_TYPE=scanner&F_ID=344

to check your scanner is set up correctly, you
should be pretty much there.

Hope this helps

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[newbie] cdrecord and bootable cd

[Gerald Waugh]

I am using cdrecord to cut a bootable iso image to a CD
Only the CD I burn will not boot.. I used the following;
# cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 speed=4 botablet-image.iso

The CD looks normal when I mount and ls the contents.
I put it in a system to boot, and the drive activity led flashes a few timea 
and the PC goes ahead and boots from the hard drive.

I have a CD cut by a friend of mine, of a similar iso, using Nero, it will 
boot.

What could I be doing wrong?
TIA
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Re: [newbie] xcdroast help

[Graham Watkins]

Heather Reed wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> I have just installed xcdroast (together with cdrecord). When I try to 
> open it, I get a message telling me to configure as root, but no info as 
> to what to configure where or how. I can't seem to get to a help file 
> though, and am totally confused :-(( I have looked at various howtos on 
> the net, but they are way above me I'm afraid. Can anyone out there give 
> me, or point me to and idiots guide (and believe me, in this I am an 
> idiot :-))? I am running 8.2, and have a memorex IDE rewriter installed, 
> which is being picked up by harddrake OK. it is my only CD drive, and I 
> hate having to reboot into windows (gr) to burn CDs. Alternatively, 
> a pointer to other CD burner apps that might do the job as well and be 
> easier to get going (if such things exist) would do just as well.
> 
> Any help would be gratefully received.
> 
> Ta muchly
> 
> Heather
> 

I don't think it's difficult. Log in to your favourite window manager as 
root. Open up xcdroast, go into settings and fill in the settings as 
required. I'd go into more detail if I could remember it. It works for me.



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Re: [newbie] Gimp under Mandrake symbolic link

[Derek Jennings]

On Sunday 09 June 2002 10:43 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> My new scanner, Epson Perfection 1650, works beautifully under Mandrake
> 8.2.  It was the easiest install I have ever done under any OS.  It
> required a downloaded driver from the Epson site, but it installs
> without any problems whatsoever.  From a shell, running iscan runs a
> GUI, and the only criticism I could make is that it only offer pnm and
> png as file types - not a major problem.
>
> To run the scanner under gimp, however a symbolic link has to be made.
> The instructions say it needs
>
>ln -s /usr/bin/iscan ~/.gimp-1.2/plug-ins
>
> The path for iscan is correct, but I need to adjust the gimp path.  Can
> anyone please tell me exactly where gimp plugins go in Mdk 8.2?
>
> TIA
>
> Anne


Exactly where it says ~/.gimp-1.2/plug-ins

~  means your home directory.  When you start gimp for the first time it will 
create ~/.gimp-1.2

A Tip for you : If you want to find files the quickest way is to use the 
command line utility 'slocate'  It is on the slocate RPM 
slocate will run a background job daily to maintain a database of where every 
file resides on your computer. 

Also with your scanner doesn't it work with xsane or kooka? They will give you 
all sorts of file formats. 
Scannerdrake from Mandrake Control Centre lists your scanner as supported by 
xsane  It should be able to configure it without downloading any driver. 
There is also an xsane plugin for gimp which will allow you to scan from 
inside gimp.

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[newbie] Gimp under Mandrake symbolic link

[Anne Wilson]

My new scanner, Epson Perfection 1650, works beautifully under Mandrake 
8.2.  It was the easiest install I have ever done under any OS.  It 
required a downloaded driver from the Epson site, but it installs 
without any problems whatsoever.  From a shell, running iscan runs a 
GUI, and the only criticism I could make is that it only offer pnm and 
png as file types - not a major problem.

To run the scanner under gimp, however a symbolic link has to be made. 
The instructions say it needs

   ln -s /usr/bin/iscan ~/.gimp-1.2/plug-ins/

The path for iscan is correct, but I need to adjust the gimp path.  Can 
anyone please tell me exactly where gimp plugins go in Mdk 8.2?

TIA

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Re: [newbie] Re: Open term and run script from icon - working

[Michael Adams]

On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 18:59, Anuerin G. Diaz wrote:
> create the script then invoke the terminal using the -e command like this
>
> xterm -e scriptname &
>
> but be warned that it will exit after finishing the script. not all
> terminals support this so you better check the manpage.
>
> ciao!
>
> Michael Adams wrote:
> > How does one get a terminal (Konsole window) to open AND start running a
> > script in one action from an icon?
> >
> > I can run a script from an icon or i can open a Konsole window from an
> > icon. But i can't get the window to load and run the script from the
> > icon. Heres my sample script.
> >
> > ---
> > #!/bin/bash
> >
> > #Start the client as a background task
> > /usr/games/civclient &
> > sleep 1
> >
> > #Start the server
> > /usr/games/civserver --file m.sav.gz
> > ---
> >
> > This server needs to be run in an interactive terminal to start it. Of
> > course it's for work you understand ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Michael
> >
> >  
Thanks... this is the method i chose. By adding the "xterm -e" to the start 
of the server line it works perfectly from the desktop without a kde.ink 
icon. By the way for this one the trailing & is optional. It is a little more 
correct with the & as without it the script just stays resident in memory but 
suspended until the xterm is closed.

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[newbie] package downloads need conversion?

[Matthias Monreal]

Hi everybody,
 
I'm trying to get my Mandrake 8.0 system online and 
need to install dhcpcd or pump as a dhcp client.  Can I download these 
packages on a Windows box and install them straight on my Linux box or do I have 
to convert them into a Linux compatible format?
 
Any advice will be greatly 
appreciated!
 
Thanks,
 
Matthias

Re: [newbie] test

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Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!

[John Richard Smith]

On Wednesday 05 June 2002 16:05, you wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 June 2002 08:03 am, s wrote:
> > On Wednesday 05 June 2002 08:51 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
> > > Ok I found mplayer-0.90pre4-fr1.src.rpm,but as soon as I start
> > > to recompile:-
> > >
> > > [root@localhost pk]# rpm --rebuild mplayer-0.90pre4-fr1.src.rpm
> > > Installing mplayer-0.90pre4-fr1.src.rpm
> > > error: failed build dependencies:
> > >
> > > So now I'm stuck.
> > > John
> >
> > I ain't never had any luck with plf's files.  You're better off
> > going to mplayer's site and download the tarball.
> > jmo,
> > -s
>
>   I havt'a agree, at least for mplayer.  While I always had
> better results with the PLF mplayer rpms, that has reversed since
> mplayer .60.  FWIW, all the deps John listed are also at the PLF
> d/l site, but if IIRC I still had trouble getting the src.rpm to
> compile and produce a working player. I think that was with .90pre2
> tho. So now I use the tarball ;>

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Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!

[Tom Brinkman]

On Tuesday 04 June 2002 04:56 am, John Richard Smith wrote:

> You are absolutely correct, I simply applied LM8.2's own Mplayer
> version which came with the distro which is Mplayer v 0.50-3asp .
> Now this is no good you are saying?
> If so which particular version would be better and does it have to
> be tar ball versions, are there no rpm 's that are just as good ?

Yes, tarball, as Mplayer's authors have strongly discouraged 
anyone making rpm's from their source (PLF use to). The latest 
(.90pre4) is at http://www.MPlayerHQ.hu/homepage/just 
remember to compile with ./configure --disable-gcc-checking 
as the authors also have strong feelings about usin gcc-2.96, 
mistakenly thinking that all 2.96 versions are RedHat's.  Best movie 
program ... imature authors.

   FWIW, I've noticed that some .avi's or .mpg's I have play fine 
usin the open source 'nv' driver, but fail miserably if I have the 
closed source secret evil unsecureable buggy half a$$ed binary only 
'nvidia' driver enabled. El cheapo Abit Gef2, but I suspect also 
other cards,  YMMV ;>
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Re: [newbie] Errors while recompiling the kernel.

[Bill Davidson]

On 05 Jun 2002 21:03:57 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'm a beginner user of linux and I have a beginner's problem which I
> can't solve. I have Mandrake 8.2 installed on my computer. I tried to
> recompile the kernel (just as in howto was written), but when making
> modules I get errors and modules are not not compiled. I've even tried
> to recompile the kernel with standard configuration, but the same
> happened. The way I was doing:
> 1) # make menuconfig
>   I tried with many comfigurations.
> 2) # make dep
> 3) # make clean
> 4) # make modules
>   Errors!
>   I've moved old modules from /lib/modules/ to ~root
> 5) # make modules_install
>   And there are just a few compiled modules.
> 
> What am I doing rong? (or what am I not doing?). Please help me.

A few questions: what are these errors? Where did you get your kernel
sources?

I suspect that you just didn't enable very many options to be compiled
as modules. Post the errors though and we'll see.

Also, you're missing some steps. The correct steps are as follows:

make mrproper
make menuconfig(or make xconfig if you want a gui config, I'd recommend
that one) make dep
make clean
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install

You could also do:
make modulles && make modules_install
This way make modules_install only happens if there are no errors in
make modules.

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Re: [newbie] run windows executable in Linux ...

[et]

On Saturday 08 June 2002 02:16 am, you wrote:
> On Saturday 08 June 2002 01:23 am, you wrote:
> > Wow. I really don't think someone asking, on a Linux mailing list, if
> > there's "free" software to do what they want to do is unreasonable. He
> > didn't ask if someone had a cracked version of these programs. He didn't
> > even say he wasn't willing to pay for something. Just seemed to be
> > asking honest question to me. Way to jump down this persons throat.
>
> Good grief I wasn't trying to jump down anyone's throat...
>
> I always come across that way, and I don't mean to... I need to learn how
> to type or communicate or something.
try remembering that no one can see your face, so add little things to show 
expresions (big stupid redneck two tooth grin)

>
> Sorry.
>
> However, he wasn't asking about if there was a free program (which there
> was and both had been mentioned already), but why a company would charge
> money for LINUX software...
>
> At least that's how I read it... But I guess I am the only one.
>
> Sorry.



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