Re: [newbie] Laptop question
bascule wrote: > > before i forget, didn't there use to be a 'dosstart' boot method or somesuch > where one could start the install from a dos prompt? perhaps if the laptop > can be in dos with the cd drive recognised you could try this, i think there > was/is a directory on cd1 with .bat file to launch under dos, > Are you refering to loadlin. I have read about it but never used it. Lots of info about it in google. It sounds like this may work for the install. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop question
On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 19:58, bascule wrote: > before i forget, didn't there use to be a 'dosstart' boot method or somesuch > where one could start the install from a dos prompt? perhaps if the laptop > can be in dos with the cd drive recognised you could try this, i think there > was/is a directory on cd1 with .bat file to launch under dos, I hope so b/c this would likely work for it. > anyway, once you have a partition with the iso or cd contents on you will > need to know how to describe it to the install i.e. /dev/hda1 etc. > > you say you have tried this before and it didn't work, did you do anything > different to what i have described? > > bascule > > The way I tried this in the past was on a huge FAT32 partition I have on my secondary drive. I put all the files into one central directory called Mandrake, then under that: CD1, CD2, CD3. When I went to install I pointed the .img file to my partitions beforehand, and as I installed yes it asked for the files & where they were. Yet, no matter what I did, I couldn't get it to accept the directories I'd created for it. I don't know what I did wrong...? Tia Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] link for 'notlame' ... (shane)
thanks for the info. looked through the previous link for rpms and couldn't find 'notlame'. checked google (not all of it) and could only see i586 stuff. so, if you would be so kind, i'd appreciate the rpm link - that should considerably simplify matters, thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Server side includes
I have an odd problem trying to get the above to work...it works perfectly for
'index.shtml' - but no other file.
index.shtml has an included file:
This works.
However, if I copy index.shtml to (say) test.shtml it no longer works. Same file, same
permissions/owner, same directory.
Apache's configs are basically default, only a virtualdomain added, and
/etc/httpd/conf/commonhttpd.conf contains:
AddType text/html .shtml
AddHandler server-parsed .shtml
Any ideas please?
-Ross
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Re: [newbie] mp3 encoder for GRIP ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 10 July 2002 09:06 pm, Rainer did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: > finally managed to get grip installed. only the dependencies had > dependencies and that went on for awhile ... anyway i successfully ripped > some cd's but only in ogg format. that's alright but i have a lot of > friends who don't know what a 'linux' is or a winamp or an ogg. so i'd > like to be able to encode in mp3 as well. went to lame and downloaded > something, i think the whole works, and i got stuck at the configure > stage, the shell said something about, " C compiler cannot create > executables." look up "notlame". there is a mdk rpm version 3.92. i have it for i686 if you can't find it i will email it to ya. - -- May the forces of evil become confused on their way to your house. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9LQl2Bwq+ZwvIN/oRAnVlAJ0WPQc9lNq1GQcBg1v3OXRsnu43owCfSfVi YCWP1Y2I1VqfFemHijT9Ngk= =STMe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] stange install works and then doesn't
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 10 July 2002 07:22 pm, bascule did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: > how about just wiping the hd that you wish to put mandrake on completely > and starting again with a text install since if i read aright that worked > for you, then if you get just a prompt as you described at one point then > either $startx will work for you, or $Xfdrake can be run from a command > line to set up X for you better yet, first try a graphic install but simply don't test the video. choose your settings and then go on, it worked once, it will work again, the testing of it may be your trouble. testing can still screw you up even if the real thing works. - -- of all of the actions humanity has called crimes, "blasphemy" is the most amazing, with "obscenity" and "indecent exposure" neck and neck for second. - -heinlein shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9LQguBwq+ZwvIN/oRAuFKAJ0TerzxPsVVLVAC8j0DkpRwt6OtwACfZnIY Zd5tlRxQSXWO529tP03slSY= =e7M7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] USB 250 Zip Drive and Linux?
I've read somewhere that USB 250MB Zip drives do not work with Linux. Is this true? If not, what do I need to do to get it working? Thanks! -- Terry Sheltra Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: the political aspect, %'s
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 10 July 2002 01:16 pm, civileme did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: > But, make no mistake, the issue is open versus closed source. On 5% of > the market and a whole lot less than 5% of the money, linux has made a is it only 5%? based on the people i know it (now there is a fair sampling!) it would be about 11% - -- "He serves the State best who opposes the State most." -Henry David Thoreau shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9LQabBwq+ZwvIN/oRAlAMAJ4i8fqnxamDZ2Txeh8p55M5T2JcdgCeIcl+ ndDo49XdPPlODwGpdCgSI4U= =bdZ3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 3Com USR Modem Installation
Hi all, I have Mandrake 8.1 installed and am using KDE. I bought what I thought was a Linux-compatible modem (it says so on the damn box), yet when I try to install in Hardrake it shows the correct modem id but won't configure it as it says it's a Winmodem. I'm a bit ticked by that, but anyway.. I went to USR.com and downloaded their rpm file for Linux which is saved as LNUX_3ComMdm-1.0-1.i386.rpm and did a rpm -i. It errors out with the message that IRQ 12 is in use. Hardrake offers advice to be found at www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html and that's nice, but truthfully it's all a bit over my head and setserial didn't work for me either. My modem model is USR325610b. Someone please help and hold the acronyms please. :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 10 July 2002 05:05 am, Taras Panio did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: > When saving attachments from Kmail to disk, MS Word files are changing > into files of "plain text" type. As the result, when opened later with > OpenOffice they look like a 50 or 70 pages of strange symbols. To find > original cyrillic encoded text is impossible. What's the cure? > Thaks in advance. > T.P. are you sure it is kmail doing it? have looked in OO under the lad and save settings? - -- "... and if you drown, die knowing you were headed for the shore." -from farenheight 451 shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9LQU1Bwq+ZwvIN/oRApZcAJ9Xi/XBMtOYzT7R7zfBDon2MMt2twCcDQ22 /xMA4YEbBzrrZfamHBJ+kwk= =6V5L -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IBM Hard Drives?
At 06:20 AM 7/10/02, you wrote: >Western Digital drives are by far the worst you can get. Officially, the >company >only supports Windows and Solaris, so if you choose any other OS (like >GNU/Linux) you're on your own. WD drives lack some vital CRC circuitry, >and they >don't comply fully with the ATA spec. If you use such a drive at anything >faster >than ATA/66 (IIRC) in GNU/Linux, expect massive filesystem corruption. Well, I guess I didn't know that. Maybe now I do, my drives will start to fail :-( Thanks for the heads-up, though :-) j. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mp3 encoder for GRIP ...
hello, finally managed to get grip installed. only the dependencies had dependencies and that went on for awhile ... anyway i successfully ripped some cd's but only in ogg format. that's alright but i have a lot of friends who don't know what a 'linux' is or a winamp or an ogg. so i'd like to be able to encode in mp3 as well. went to lame and downloaded something, i think the whole works, and i got stuck at the configure stage, the shell said something about, " C compiler cannot create executables." all i want is a good mp3 encoder that i can access through grip, that is as easy as possible (newbie level) to install. thanks-a-bunch. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sound problems
On Wednesday 10 July 2002 07:26 pm, et wrote: > but really Tom, how do you fell about winmodems (just joking) No worse or better than any other win-hardware, they don't even work very well with M$ winwoes. The shame of it is gettin the more or less unsuspecting public to pay $40 for $2 worth of fake-hardware. Unfortunately, the more it proliferates, the more and longer uncle billy's got a strangle hold going. Integrated IE in winsux isn't Redmond's strength, it's win-hardware, and the people who accept or condone it. Can you say Palladium ? No joke (sadly) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sound problems (the political aspect)
On Wednesday 10 July 2002 07:14 pm, tom brinkman wrote: > Mark Stewart wrote: > > Save your sanity, try to avoid win-hardware in the future, > > blame uncle billy for aureal. Look here to find a_real sound > > card > > > > http://www.alsa-project.org/~goemon/ > > -- > > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas > > >> > > >> Well, your welcome to your opinions. The link I posted is > > >> Deno's and Civileme's opinions. Mine are that _any_ hardware > > >> that requires closed source proprietary drivers to function is > > >> WIN_hardware. It can't and never will be supported by Linux, the > > >> drivers _will_ taint your kernel, and possibly (probly) > > >> introduce unfixable, untraceable conflicts and security issues. > > > > > >Hmm. I really think "taint" is a problematic word since it > > > suggests that it is mostly an ethical issue whereas I think > > > Linus' objection is really mostly pragmatic. > > from Google 'dictionary taint'; > > Taint, v. t. [F. teint, p.p. of teindre to dye, tinge, fr. L. tingere, > tinctum. See Tinge, and cf. Tint.] > 1. To imbue or impregnate with something extraneous, especially with > something odious, noxious, or poisonous; hence, to corrupt; to > infect; to poison; as, putrid substance taint the air. > 2. Fig.: To stain; to sully; to tarnish. > >ethical? as in Micro$soft ? sounds to me like my (et al) use of > the word 'taint' in conjunction with win-hardware, closed source > proprietary software/drivers is appropriate, even kind and gentle. > Specially since I use the term 'introduce' rather than impregnate ;> > Perhaps you'd prefer I use corrupt? or poisonous?, maybe noxious? or > sully? putrid? infect? tarnish? _and_ with a much stronger term > for delivery than impregnate ? >They all apply. pragmatically ;) ... unfortunately, > realistically also. > >Google again, courtesy of Mr.Webster; > Prag*mat"ic, n. > 1. One skilled in affairs. > 2. A solemn public ordinance or decree. > >So I hereby decree y'all quit buyin win-hardware, swear off closed > source software/drivers. Save Linux and open source >[ Optional, but requested, is quit buyin Dells. Then they wouldn't > have so damn much of y'alls money to spend on those irritating TV > commercials. (more than they put into the actual hardware) > "Dude, you're gettin (stuck with) a Dell" ] > > >I hope I'm not coming across as a complete curmudgeon here. I've just > > grown > > >a little weary of the continuous bashing of non-open software's > > quality > > >(e.g. NVidia's drivers) as if the two were mutually exclusive. > > It's what they don't say, or out right hide that'll kill ya. > Not sure what you mean 'as if the two were mutually exclusive.' Mea > culpa, maybe inclusive? I'll just say again, and this applies to > nVidia as much as any other closed source stuff or vendors (Aureal), > 'the drivers _will_ taint your kernel, and possibly (probly) > introduce unfixable, untraceable conflicts and security issues.' > ... or be orphaned or asimilated into the rest of the wintel gang. > >That's not a guess, usin closed source SW/drivers IS. Your choice, > but it has an effect on all of us, and not for the better Once again I ask the question, "what video card is open source and works as well or nearly as well as Nvidia cards?" I am looking for a replacement for the reasons above. Found one Hercules that looks ok for about $75. Any other suggestions. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] xmms 1.2.6. problem with modifying visualization plugins
I sent this message out on monday and I didn't see it posted. I apologize to the list for the bandwidth. List I am currently unable to configure my visualization plugins in xmms version 1.2.6. I get a stack constraint failed error. It happens when the window opens the error message appears and I am unable to access any part of the window except the close window button at the top of the window. Nothing else happens. Any links, upgrades, suggestions? Thanks, Terry -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] stange install works and then doesn't
if you had error messages not seen before 'after' having a successful install go south on you then perhaps you have a hardware failure on the cards?, that would explain why you 'lost' the install that was working, what you described by the way seemed to be an install with 'autologin' selected, my system shows the prompt for a brief time and then presents me a graphical login screen, if i had autologin selected then i would see the prompt for a short period while X launches and then i would be straight into kde - my default desktop - this can be changed from the mandrake control panel under 'boot config' but you need to have a working system for that:-) how about just wiping the hd that you wish to put mandrake on completely and starting again with a text install since if i read aright that worked for you, then if you get just a prompt as you described at one point then either $startx will work for you, or $Xfdrake can be run from a command line to set up X for you bascule On Thursday 11 July 2002 1:19 am, you wrote: > > The final two attempts at text installs ended with error messages not > > previously seen . . . > >exi > > "Segmentation fault; seems like memory is missing as the install crashes" > > (That must as have been written buy a non-English speaker) > > > > And when I hit enter a second text message mixes in with the previous > > message and says "switch to console f2 for a shell." > > > > Of course, none of that is of any help to me because the machine is hung > > and no keys are functional. > > > > Until all of this happened, I ran the smaller HD under WIN 98 as drives > > D,E, and F with G as the CD. So I believe the HD to be sound - even > > though Partition Magic says it has problems. > > > > But the mystery is, how come I had a functional installation of mandrake > > 8.2 for at least 3 sessions and then it went away and I can't install it > > again? -- 'The gods,' he said. 'Imprisoned in a thought. And perhaps they were never more than a dream.' (Sourcery) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop question
On Wednesday 10 July 2002 20:54, Femme wrote: > I have come into ownership of an older HP Omnibook, a PII 233 iirc, > and its got a removeable CD-Rom & Floppy drive. Can't have both > attached at once. > I had planned to stick mandrake on it, however I ran into a small > snag. If I can't boot the CD itself, and can't have both floppy & > CD-Rom attached at the same time, I can't boot from floppy then > install. Nor may I just install off the CD. > It says it will boot off > teh CD when I set it in the BIOS, but it doesn't work Are you sure you can't have both drives connected at the same time? I had an Omnibook once, a P166. The way I remember it, you could only have one drive at a time in the swappable bay. But if you wanted, you could have the CD-ROM drive in the bay and the floppy drive just sitting beside the Omnibook on the desk, and the floppy drive plugged into the parallel port on the back. The BIOS on that one was not capable of booting from CD-ROM. I installed SuSE using the arrangement just described - booting from the floppy, which was plugged into the parallel port, and having the CD-ROM drive in the bay. SuSE 7.1 installed on it fine that way. I never got the sound working, though. *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.3 Professional KDE 2.2.1 KMail 1.3.1 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop question
iirc one can copy the contents of all the cds into one single directory stucture with cds 2 and 3 going under .../Mandrake/RPMS2 and /RPMS3 respectively, however the partition with the install files on it is then unavailable for installing onto and it might be nice to maximise the space available during the install by creating a partition just large enough for one cd - iso or contents, the hd.img can handle either, as i mentioned after install one can then install from the other cd's before i forget, didn't there use to be a 'dosstart' boot method or somesuch where one could start the install from a dos prompt? perhaps if the laptop can be in dos with the cd drive recognised you could try this, i think there was/is a directory on cd1 with .bat file to launch under dos, anyway, once you have a partition with the iso or cd contents on you will need to know how to describe it to the install i.e. /dev/hda1 etc. the install will ask for the partition the file(s) are on and then for the directory they are in, if you feed the correct details then all should be plain sailing, if you don't get 'loading second stage' then the install is probably not able to find the install files, if you do and then it fails then either the file(s) are corrupt or there maybe some hardware problem/incompatiblity - obviously of you copy the cd onto a partition using windows it will be a fat16/32 - i'm not aware of that being a problem but i can't swear that the boot floppy kernel will recognise the full range of file systems - perhaps someone else could comment? you say you have tried this before and it didn't work, did you do anything different to what i have described? bascule On Thursday 11 July 2002 2:37 am, you wrote: > On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 19:27, bascule wrote: > > how big is the hard disk, if there is space and win is installed and you > > have the utilities to do it you could make room for a partition to copy > > one iso to and do a hard disk install using the hd.img on floppy, you > > could then > The HDD is only 4gb as far as I know. Now what you're suggesting is > perfectly feasible Bascule, except I tried this on my own desktop > machine not long ago & had zero luck with the installations. I gave up > & just went back to doing it by booting the CD's themselves. Now, iirc > when I did it on the desktop machine, I had copied all files from the > CD's onto the HDD (Not in ISO format) into one big directory. > > Any idea on how to do that & make it work? Or using the ISO Idea...same > thing. Because I sure couldn't manage to make it go last time. > > Femme -- ## Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Perl
This months issue of Linux Magazine talks about Perl and scripting languages in general. I'm with John, but see some of Jeanie's side too. I work as a network / database administrator, with more of my work on the database side. I really enjoy data manipulation using awk and sed and keep promising myself that I will learn Perl. I also will spend hours writing a script that executes in two minutes that finds faults within our databases. But the alternate choice of sitting down and inputting request into SQL request by request would take days compared to what a script can do in minutes that was written in a few hours. Perl, Awk, Sed, Vi and others will be around for awhile yet to go and will continue to be valuable tools to administrators just like Java and C++ are valuable tools to the developers. Dan B - Original Message - From: "Schwenk, Jeanie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 7:27 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Perl > John, > > I have to disagree. Perl may be popular but it's not the easiest scripting > language to learn. I have yet to read a perl script that didn't make me > shudder. Even awk is easier to read and I like awk! > > If someone wants to become a programmer, C/C++ or Java is the best place to > start not a scripting language. There are alot of hacks that can be done > much more easily in scripting languages, my suggestion is learn how to do it > right (sans hacks) because hacks will come back to haunt you. > > Jeanie > > -Original Message- > From: Stephen Britton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 4:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] Perl > > > Hi John, > > Perl is a scripting language that comes standard with almost every major > Linux > distribution, including Mandrake. It's probably the most popular programming > language on the Internet. Perl can be used for many things from system > administration > to processing HTML forms. If you want more information and tutorials on > how to use Perl, visit O'Reilly's Perl.com and check out the Perl books at > Amazon. > > Perl is also among the easiest programming languages to learn. If you have > ever wanted to become a programmer, Perl is a great place to start. > > - Steve > > > - Original Message - > From: "John Richard Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "NEWBIE 1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 6:10 PM > Subject: [newbie] Perl > > > > I often see reference in many situations to Pearl, but what eaxtly is it. > > John > > > > -- > > John Richard Smith > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > -- -- > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Identifying sound server for Xine
I wonder if I should have stated that "sound is working on my system". Just not in Xine. I want to identify which sound server is working so i can tell Xine. Xine is currently set to null in setup > Audio tag. On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 03:35, Andy Napier wrote: > Looks like the VT82C686 so modules.conf should look something like this, > I'd open up you case and have a look at the Southbridge to get the exact > revision... as there are 2 versions "a" and "B" rule of thumb if I remember > correctly is that "a" only supports ATA66 and "B" supports ATA100 (not sure > if that helps much). > > alias char-major-116 snd > > alias snd-card-0 snd-card-via686a (for 686B, 8231) > > alias char-major-14 soundcore > > alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 > > alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss > > alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss > > alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss > > alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss > > alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss > > > > This will setup OSS emulation so all you need to do is launch xine, open > Tools/Audio and change "null" to "oss" and press enter. > > > > Or you can do it from bash # xine -A oss > > > > There's a good section on VIA audio drivers here > > http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=128 and http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=88 > > > > Cheers > > > > Andy > > - Original Message - > From: "John Richard Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 1:37 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Identifying sound server for Xine > > > Michael Adams wrote: > > >Ah Southbridge?... is it on this list. > > > > > >[root@localhost michael]# lspcidrake > > >agpgart : VIA Technologies|VT82C691 [Apollo PRO] > > >unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C598 [Apollo MVP3 AGP] > > >unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super] > > >unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] > > >usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB > > >usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB > > >unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] > > >via82cxxx_audio : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super AC97/Audio] > > >Card:RIVA TNT2 : nVidia Corporation|Vanta > > >unknown : Virtual|Hub [] > > >unknown : Virtual|Hub [] > > > > > > > I think your sound chip is VIA Technologies | VT82C686 and not VT 8233. > > > > I would expect your /etc/modules.conf to look more like, > > > > alias char-major-116 snd > > alias snd-card-0 snd-card-via82C686 > > > > I have no experience with this chip, cannot say for sure if > > supported,but it might well be. > > John > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- >- > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop question
On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 19:27, bascule wrote: > > how big is the hard disk, if there is space and win is installed and you have > the utilities to do it you could make room for a partition to copy one iso to > and do a hard disk install using the hd.img on floppy, you could then add the > other cd's to rpmdrake/urpmi and install whatever else you need > > a bit long winded, but unless there is any networking built in? and you can't > get cd booting to work i can't think of any other solution that doesn't > involve taking the hard drive out > > bascule The HDD is only 4gb as far as I know. Now what you're suggesting is perfectly feasible Bascule, except I tried this on my own desktop machine not long ago & had zero luck with the installations. I gave up & just went back to doing it by booting the CD's themselves. Now, iirc when I did it on the desktop machine, I had copied all files from the CD's onto the HDD (Not in ISO format) into one big directory. Any idea on how to do that & make it work? Or using the ISO Idea...same thing. Because I sure couldn't manage to make it go last time. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] more BS from RIAA (was longer)
July 6, 2002 03:56 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
>
> As an aside -
>
> I was a teenager in the late '50s. An article I read recently highlighted
> the lifestyle cost in comparative terms. I found that the simple record
> player I bought then cost the equivalent of £833. I could never afford LP
> records. The reason was simple - a 2x20 min. LP cost the equivalent of
> £189. Suddenly CDs at £15 don't look so expensive :-)
>
> Anne
Good points Anne.
The problem is that something you (I also) want to hear more than just once
is worth what you're (I'm) willing/able to pay for it. The same applies to
movies in my opinion. However if you can't even "preview" the material how
are consumers (me too) supposed to judge?
In the interest of retaining my title of "Canadian looney of the modern age;"
isn't the ("inflation adjusted") price of that record player on the close
order of a 'generic utility' type PC? Also; the price (adjusted) of that
recording, roughly the cost of a hard drive and decent speakers/sound card?
Or sound card and graphics adapter at least? :-)
Just a (severely bent) thought. Totally flawed analogy of course; but that's
my specialty.
--
Charlie
Edmonton,AB,Canada
Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org
A debugged program is one for which you have not yet found the conditions
that make it fail.
-- Jerry Ogdin
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RE: [newbie] Laptop question
On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 19:05, Nick Emans wrote: > Femme: > Can't the BIOS be set to boot off the CD? > > > > > Femme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I have come into ownership of an older HP Omnibook, a PII 233 iirc, and > >its got a removeable CD-Rom & Floppy drive. Can't have both attached at > >once. > > > >I had planned to stick mandrake on it, however I ran into a small snag. > >If I can't boot the CD itself, and can't have both floppy & CD-Rom > >attached at the same time, I can't boot from floppy then install. Nor > >may I just install off the CD. > > > >So..what to do? I looked at the linux for laptops site. No luck > >there. The one page devoted to this stuff was fairly useless. I went > >to HP's site for info on the BIOS & stuff, and got little else but BIOS > >info. > > > >So any suggestions? Ideas? Help? > > > >Thx, > >Femme > > > > Trust me Nick, thats the first thing I tried! It says it will boot off teh CD when I set it in the BIOS, but it doesn't work *scratching my head on that one!*. Heh, next suggestion? Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Laptop question
Femme: Can't the BIOS be set to boot off the CD? Femme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have come into ownership of an older HP Omnibook, a PII 233 iirc, and >its got a removeable CD-Rom & Floppy drive. Can't have both attached at >once. > >I had planned to stick mandrake on it, however I ran into a small snag. >If I can't boot the CD itself, and can't have both floppy & CD-Rom >attached at the same time, I can't boot from floppy then install. Nor >may I just install off the CD. > >So..what to do? I looked at the linux for laptops site. No luck >there. The one page devoted to this stuff was fairly useless. I went >to HP's site for info on the BIOS & stuff, and got little else but BIOS >info. > >So any suggestions? Ideas? Help? > >Thx, >Femme > > > -- nickE __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Laptop question
I have come into ownership of an older HP Omnibook, a PII 233 iirc, and its got a removeable CD-Rom & Floppy drive. Can't have both attached at once. I had planned to stick mandrake on it, however I ran into a small snag. If I can't boot the CD itself, and can't have both floppy & CD-Rom attached at the same time, I can't boot from floppy then install. Nor may I just install off the CD. So..what to do? I looked at the linux for laptops site. No luck there. The one page devoted to this stuff was fairly useless. I went to HP's site for info on the BIOS & stuff, and got little else but BIOS info. So any suggestions? Ideas? Help? Thx, Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reconfiguring X
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:41:41 -0600 "Travis Crook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > I recently changed video cards in my machine. How do I reconfigure > X to work with the new card? > > Travis Crook > Visions Beyond Civileme just posted an answer related to this, I believe the subject had "video card" in it--try a search of the archives, it was just in the last couple of weeks. IIRC, it involved booting as if you were going to reinstall, choosing upgrade/repair, cancelling out of everything until you get to the part about display. HTH, Todd -- Todd Slater Education is the process of driving a set of prejudices down your throat. (Martin H. Fischer) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] stange install works and then doesn't
On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 16:10, Joe Harkins wrote: > I'm having a very weird trip trying to install Mandrake 8.2 on the secod HD > on this box. I'm running WINxp on the primary drive and want Mandrake on > the smaller (6 gigs). > > I have had many weird things occur, some that seem impossible. It's hard to > figure out which are significant so I that would lead to a sound diagnosis > and relevant guidance. But if you are patient and enjoy a strange tale, > please follow this . . . OK I did/will. > First, I installed Partition Magic on the WIN HD in order to make sure the > HD for which Mandrake was intended is OK. Maybe the issues raised at that > point are clues to problems that have come up during many subsequent > attempts to install M 8.2. First thing: Ditch PM. See the newbie archives for my own woes with that POS Partitioning software (shitware?). It gave similiar errors to the ones you describe later on, YET linux & winsucks both had 0 problems with the drives in question. Ditto for the partitions. This leads me to suspect PM uses some sort of proprietary partitioning schemes. I don't know here, I'm guessing. Juse use MDK's partitioning stuff & you'll be fine. > I proceeded to boot into M 8.2 installation from the CD. I auto-allocated > the partitions (/ - swap and /home) and installed M 8.2 in the "/" > partition (later I tried it in the "/home" partition with no different > results.) This is an "expert" or "newbie" install? need some specifics. > It too went normally. When it came to the end, I was prompted to enter my > user and password. I did. It was followed by a prompt that said > > [joeharkins@localhost joeharkins]$ > Normal command line prompt. It expects *like a DOS prompt* information to be input here. > And that was that. I have no clue as to what it wanted. Nothing that I > could think of worked except ctrl-alt-del which I finally used to get out. Heh next time to reboot try ALT-SYSRQ (ya that useless button actually has a use in LINUX ! OMG!)-L, or H next time. > "Segmentation fault; seems like memory is missing as the install crashes" > (That must as have been written buy a non-English speaker) Trust me M$hit's error msgs mean just as much. Segfault=BSOD for winsucks. > And when I hit enter a second text message mixes in with the previous > message and says "switch to console f2 for a shell." In other words, if you think you know what you're doing, hit ctrl-alt-F2 for cmd line so you can fix your fooked up linux install. :) > Of course, none of that is of any help to me because the machine is hung > and no keys are functional. > > Until all of this happened, I ran the smaller HD under WIN 98 as drives > D,E, and F with G as the CD. So I believe the HD to be sound - even though > Partition Magic says it has problems. > As I said, PM lies. Plain & simple. > > Hope you enjoyed the trip and I hope even stronger that you have some ideas > for fixing the problem. I'd greatly appreciate it. I was impressed by the > little I saw but wish i could have enjoyed it longer and more consistently. > > TIA Keep up the dialogue i'm sure in time some of us will be able to get you up & running again. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sound problems
On Wednesday 10 July 2002 04:48 pm, you wrote: > On Wednesday 10 July 2002 01:12 pm, Randy Kramer wrote: > > tom brinkman wrote: > > > All I originally said was > > > > > > > Save your sanity, try to avoid win-hardware in the future, > > > > blame uncle billy for aureal. Look here to find a_real sound > > > > card > > > > Maybe so, but, AFAICT, you also said this: > > > > > Doing so > > > > > without knowledge or acceptance of the pitfalls is just plain > > > > > foolishness. A user error, and a regression to a Winblows > > > > > mindset. YMMV > > > > > -- > > > > > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas > > > > Which, if said to me, I would probably consider insulting. YMMV > > > > Also, it seems to me that you were the first to move toward > > incendiary language. > > > > regards, > > Randy Kramer > > Such as? [example of: incendiary language, or any personal attack] > >Seems to me, the ideal of converting Windoze users to a Linux > desktop, starts with education and investigation ... on their part > and ours. I've attacked this notion of usin winhardware and closed > source secret stuff with Linux, but not the persons who think it's > permissable. Which it isn't for all the reasons Deno and Cilvileme > (previous Mdk Forum link) and I gave. 'Sends a chill up my spine' > (where have you read that before lately ?) > > >Appears some of y'all believe we should coddle and court the > winblows mindset with the goal of Linux takin over the desktop. Ain't > gonna happen. Most people (winwoes users) will foster and blindly > accept mediocrity till they're stuck with it. Which has and is > happening. Seems to me some Linux users are willing to follow also. > Then we'll all be stuck runnin on win-hardware eventually. Which has > and is happening. > > If you were insulted by 'foolishness. A user error, and a > regression to a Winblows mindset.' that's your deal. I can only > suggest you get your feelings off your shirt sleeve, 'try to avoid > win-hardware' and proprietary closed source software in the future. but really Tom, how do you fell about winmodems (just joking) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] more BS from RIAA:"Music Labels Plant Online Decoys, Mull Lawsuits"
On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Derek Jennings wrote: > > Here is the site to assuage guilt > http://www.fairtunes.com/functions/mlmain.php > > derek Heh...thanks Derek... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] stange install works and then doesn't
is the smaller drive a master or slave and which ide channel is it on and does that IDE channel have any other devices? On Wednesday 10 July 2002 06:10 pm, you wrote: > I'm having a very weird trip trying to install Mandrake 8.2 on the secod HD > on this box. I'm running WINxp on the primary drive and want Mandrake on > the smaller (6 gigs). > > I have had many weird things occur, some that seem impossible. It's hard to > figure out which are significant so I that would lead to a sound diagnosis > and relevant guidance. But if you are patient and enjoy a strange tale, > please follow this . . . > > First, I installed Partition Magic on the WIN HD in order to make sure the > HD for which Mandrake was intended is OK. Maybe the issues raised at that > point are clues to problems that have come up during many subsequent > attempts to install M 8.2. > > On opening PM, it checked the HDs and reported it (on the smaller drive) a > series of 3 errror #116 which it offered to fix and apparently did. PM then > reported the primary drive with WIN XP ok but described the smaller HD as > BAD with an error #108. An attempt to format the drive ended in "error 04 > bad argument/parameter" and PM reports "unable to format drive." (the one > for which Mandrake is intended. > > I proceeded to boot into M 8.2 installation from the CD. I auto-allocated > the partitions (/ - swap and /home) and installed M 8.2 in the "/" > partition (later I tried it in the "/home" partition with no different > results.) > > All went normally until I got to the grinning penguins. The display seemed > normal. As soon as I clicked that I could see the penguins the system > crashed, leaving me a smear of the penguin color across the screen. The > machine was hung and needed a manual reboot. > > As I said, I tried it in the other partition. Same results. > > So I went to the linuxnebie forum with this situation and the answer > suggested that I try a "text" installation. I did. > > It too went normally. When it came to the end, I was prompted to enter my > user and password. I did. It was followed by a prompt that said > > [joeharkins@localhost joeharkins]$ > > And that was that. I have no clue as to what it wanted. Nothing that I > could think of worked except ctrl-alt-del which I finally used to get out. > > Then I tried yet another install, again on the "/" partition. on the 3rd > try (here come the wild and hairy part) - just as I was about to key in the > user PW I got a blue screen that then became the Mandrake First Time > welcome dialog in graphic mode. It prompted me to repeat my user name and > pw as well as the Internet connection stuff I'd previous entered. So I > complied. > > KDE opened up. I was in! > > I moved around inside KDE. Looked at all the goodies. Reset the screen res > to 800 by 600 (I'd not been prompted to choose one during install). Then > opened Gnome. looked around there - but (first problem) I could not get the > modem to dial. The error message suggested that it was a user/pw problem > but that seems strange since it never even gave back a dial tone so it > confuses me how it could be unable to make a connection due to a user/pw > problem. > > Anyway, I shut down the sys (logging out properly of course) and rebooted > into WINxp so i could send email. Then I rebooted back into Gnome again. > (Top of the world, Ma!) > > This time (hold on!! - curve ahead) upon reaching the login prompt I only > got as far as the final keystroke of the user name. at that point the sys > opened Gnome (which I'd set as default before ending the first session) - > without asking for a password. > > But since I was in, I looked around some more. Studied the obscurities of > the connection dialog boxes and then shut down for the night, again logging > out properly . > > When I rebooted in the morning through the boot loader, I was taken back to > that DOS-like prompt. This time I did not even get to finish keying in the > user name when the sys opened into Gnome. (see what I mean about weird?). > Again, I looked around in Gnome, opened and closed the menus, etc., but > changed nothing anywhere. I eventually logged out and went back to working > in WIn for a while. > > And that's the last time I was able to get into the Linux opsys. I have > tried all the above installs. The text install into either partition leads > to that meaningless (to me) prompt but this time there was no magical > opening of the door. Never could get past it again. > > And, of course, the graphic install leads me to that penguin smear. > > During some of the final attempts at reinstall I saw at least one dialog > box that did not appear during previous installs. For example, in one I was > prompted for the screen res. I choose 600 by 800 and when the penguins came > again, they were in that res - just before the color smear.. > > The final two attempts at text installs ended with error messages not > previously seen . . . > > "Segmentation fault; seems like memor
Re: [newbie] Reconfiguring X
> Travis Crook wrote: > > Hi all, > I recently changed video cards in my machine. > How do I reconfigure X to work with the new card? Didn't it find the card when you rebooted? If not maybe kudzu isn't set to run at startup. or the card isn't supported. or it's configured wrong. What card are you trying to use, and what version of Linux are you using? an effective answer depends on version and card. -- Mike McNeese currently running Mandrake versions 8.0 and 8.2 Linux registered user # 248955 "If obstacles are all we see, then we've lost sight of our goal!" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IBM Hard Drives?
civileme wrote: > Basically, stay away. The new ones are not rated for 24/7 operation. > The only decent drives left in IDE seem to be Maxtor, and I have > returned one of their 60G models this year. good advice, now that ibm is no longer building their own drives. i have an 8 gb and 10 gb 'true' ibm drives that have been running 24/7 for about 1 year with out first bit of problem. my preferance, is western digital, which i have in various sizes from 450 meg to 20 gb, which i have been using for past years with out first bit of trouble. except when win95 knocked a 4 gb down to 3 gb. was fun getting that one back. as for maxtor, i have one 4 gb that i am content with. i got it when i upgraded a system for a friend. i did use seagate for a while, but with their change, and problems, i have stopped using them. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email, text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy "made in america". Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Perl
Hi John, Perl is a scripting language that comes standard with almost every major Linux distribution, including Mandrake. It's probably the most popular programming language on the Internet. Perl can be used for many things from system administration to processing HTML forms. If you want more information and tutorials on how to use Perl, visit O'Reilly's Perl.com and check out the Perl books at Amazon. Perl is also among the easiest programming languages to learn. If you have ever wanted to become a programmer, Perl is a great place to start. - Steve - Original Message - From: "John Richard Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NEWBIE 1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: [newbie] Perl > I often see reference in many situations to Pearl, but what eaxtly is it. > John > > -- > John Richard Smith > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Reconfiguring X
Hi all, I recently changed video cards in my machine. How do I reconfigure X to work with the new card? Travis CrookVisions Beyond
[newbie] stange install works and then doesn't
I'm having a very weird trip trying to install Mandrake 8.2 on the secod HD on this box. I'm running WINxp on the primary drive and want Mandrake on the smaller (6 gigs). I have had many weird things occur, some that seem impossible. It's hard to figure out which are significant so I that would lead to a sound diagnosis and relevant guidance. But if you are patient and enjoy a strange tale, please follow this . . . First, I installed Partition Magic on the WIN HD in order to make sure the HD for which Mandrake was intended is OK. Maybe the issues raised at that point are clues to problems that have come up during many subsequent attempts to install M 8.2. On opening PM, it checked the HDs and reported it (on the smaller drive) a series of 3 errror #116 which it offered to fix and apparently did. PM then reported the primary drive with WIN XP ok but described the smaller HD as BAD with an error #108. An attempt to format the drive ended in "error 04 bad argument/parameter" and PM reports "unable to format drive." (the one for which Mandrake is intended. I proceeded to boot into M 8.2 installation from the CD. I auto-allocated the partitions (/ - swap and /home) and installed M 8.2 in the "/" partition (later I tried it in the "/home" partition with no different results.) All went normally until I got to the grinning penguins. The display seemed normal. As soon as I clicked that I could see the penguins the system crashed, leaving me a smear of the penguin color across the screen. The machine was hung and needed a manual reboot. As I said, I tried it in the other partition. Same results. So I went to the linuxnebie forum with this situation and the answer suggested that I try a "text" installation. I did. It too went normally. When it came to the end, I was prompted to enter my user and password. I did. It was followed by a prompt that said [joeharkins@localhost joeharkins]$ And that was that. I have no clue as to what it wanted. Nothing that I could think of worked except ctrl-alt-del which I finally used to get out. Then I tried yet another install, again on the "/" partition. on the 3rd try (here come the wild and hairy part) - just as I was about to key in the user PW I got a blue screen that then became the Mandrake First Time welcome dialog in graphic mode. It prompted me to repeat my user name and pw as well as the Internet connection stuff I'd previous entered. So I complied. KDE opened up. I was in! I moved around inside KDE. Looked at all the goodies. Reset the screen res to 800 by 600 (I'd not been prompted to choose one during install). Then opened Gnome. looked around there - but (first problem) I could not get the modem to dial. The error message suggested that it was a user/pw problem but that seems strange since it never even gave back a dial tone so it confuses me how it could be unable to make a connection due to a user/pw problem. Anyway, I shut down the sys (logging out properly of course) and rebooted into WINxp so i could send email. Then I rebooted back into Gnome again. (Top of the world, Ma!) This time (hold on!! - curve ahead) upon reaching the login prompt I only got as far as the final keystroke of the user name. at that point the sys opened Gnome (which I'd set as default before ending the first session) - without asking for a password. But since I was in, I looked around some more. Studied the obscurities of the connection dialog boxes and then shut down for the night, again logging out properly . When I rebooted in the morning through the boot loader, I was taken back to that DOS-like prompt. This time I did not even get to finish keying in the user name when the sys opened into Gnome. (see what I mean about weird?). Again, I looked around in Gnome, opened and closed the menus, etc., but changed nothing anywhere. I eventually logged out and went back to working in WIn for a while. And that's the last time I was able to get into the Linux opsys. I have tried all the above installs. The text install into either partition leads to that meaningless (to me) prompt but this time there was no magical opening of the door. Never could get past it again. And, of course, the graphic install leads me to that penguin smear. During some of the final attempts at reinstall I saw at least one dialog box that did not appear during previous installs. For example, in one I was prompted for the screen res. I choose 600 by 800 and when the penguins came again, they were in that res - just before the color smear.. The final two attempts at text installs ended with error messages not previously seen . . . "Segmentation fault; seems like memory is missing as the install crashes" (That must as have been written buy a non-English speaker) And when I hit enter a second text message mixes in with the previous message and says "switch to console f2 for a shell." Of course, none of that is of any help to me because the machine i
Re: [newbie] sound problems (the political aspect)
On Wednesday 10 July 2002 03:16 pm, civileme wrote: < frightening future of Linux Co.'s snipped> > But, make no mistake, the issue is open versus closed source. On > 5% of the market and a whole lot less than 5% of the money, linux > has made a world-class Op system that makes Windows look sick. > The issue is keeping the computer you paid for belonging to you, > and if you use closed source that ownership comes into question > immediately. > > Civileme Whut he said !! ;) Specially the "if you use closed source that ownership comes into question immediately." part. Hardware or software would be my addition, they go hand in hand. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ever do 8.2 on an Evo D310? HELP!
I've no experience with that model, but if you have video and Lan problems the first thought that comes to mind is an IRQ conflict. They are not both on the same IRQ line are they? At what point are you having trouble? Can you get a console prompt? In which case dmesg will give you lots of nice info on what the system found during boot. derek On Wednesday 10 Jul 2002 7:08 pm, Tommy Eaton wrote: > Hi there, > > I recently purchased a Compaq Evo D310 as a test server for Mandrake > 8.2. I was dismayed today after I attempted to install 8.2 and found > that it was giving nothing but problems with video and network. Now, > while I am very much a newbie to this operating system, I have installed > Mandrake on more then 10 other computers with no problems. This one > does not appear to auto detect its network or video capabilities. When > I suggest it to try the Intel Pro/100 for a NIC (which I believe is what > the on board NIC is) it doesn't find it! Is there something obvious I'm > missing here or does Mandrake just not work on this system? Please help > and thank you in advance! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] xinerama ATI Radeon/S3 configuration
I have been playing around with mandrake for a few versions now(since 8.0), but have never been able to make xinerama work. Has anyone had success using it with this hardware/software? ATI radeon 32mb SDR pci S3 Trio (primary card in bios) SIS 630e motherboard w/ integrated agp video/sound/NIC Mandrake 8.2 I really only want to use 2 cards (ATI+S3) I have followed the directions at www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO.html without any success. (I got both cards to work independently, edited the config-4 file). I did not try to install enlightenment, but I'm aware it has better xinerama support than KDE. I have come close to making it work but the screen connected to the S3 card was somewhat garbled. Any help would be great. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ever do 8.2 on an Evo D310? HELP!
Hi there, I recently purchased a Compaq Evo D310 as a test server for Mandrake 8.2. I was dismayed today after I attempted to install 8.2 and found that it was giving nothing but problems with video and network. Now, while I am very much a newbie to this operating system, I have installed Mandrake on more then 10 other computers with no problems. This one does not appear to auto detect its network or video capabilities. When I suggest it to try the Intel Pro/100 for a NIC (which I believe is what the on board NIC is) it doesn't find it! Is there something obvious I'm missing here or does Mandrake just not work on this system? Please help and thank you in advance!
Re: [newbie] sound problems
On Wednesday 10 July 2002 01:12 pm, Randy Kramer wrote: > tom brinkman wrote: > > All I originally said was > > > > > Save your sanity, try to avoid win-hardware in the future, > > > blame uncle billy for aureal. Look here to find a_real sound > > > card > > Maybe so, but, AFAICT, you also said this: > > > > Doing so > > > > without knowledge or acceptance of the pitfalls is just plain > > > > foolishness. A user error, and a regression to a Winblows > > > > mindset. YMMV > > > > -- > > > > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas > > Which, if said to me, I would probably consider insulting. YMMV > > Also, it seems to me that you were the first to move toward > incendiary language. > > regards, > Randy Kramer Such as? [example of: incendiary language, or any personal attack] Seems to me, the ideal of converting Windoze users to a Linux desktop, starts with education and investigation ... on their part and ours. I've attacked this notion of usin winhardware and closed source secret stuff with Linux, but not the persons who think it's permissable. Which it isn't for all the reasons Deno and Cilvileme (previous Mdk Forum link) and I gave. 'Sends a chill up my spine' (where have you read that before lately ?) Appears some of y'all believe we should coddle and court the winblows mindset with the goal of Linux takin over the desktop. Ain't gonna happen. Most people (winwoes users) will foster and blindly accept mediocrity till they're stuck with it. Which has and is happening. Seems to me some Linux users are willing to follow also. Then we'll all be stuck runnin on win-hardware eventually. Which has and is happening. If you were insulted by 'foolishness. A user error, and a regression to a Winblows mindset.' that's your deal. I can only suggest you get your feelings off your shirt sleeve, 'try to avoid win-hardware' and proprietary closed source software in the future. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Web Page
I use Quanta, and I use straight HTML, CSS, and PHP for my pages. On Wednesday 10 July 2002 02:59 pm, you wrote: > Can someone give me some info? > Wondering what other webpage creating software there is for linux other > than cgi? Thanks much -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Web Page
That is what I am looking for. Sorry but I do not have much experience.
Thank you very much for clarifying and helping me.
>From: Azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [newbie] Web Page
>Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:10:12 +0100
>
>robert macdonald wrote:
>>Can someone give me some info?
>>Wondering what other webpage creating software there is for linux other
>>than cgi? Thanks much
>
>umm.. maybe you don't understand what you're asking. or maybe I don't
>understand.
>
>cgi in the way you refer to it is a system by which programs can be 'run'
>from one webpage to another to modify/provide content.
>
>cgi isn't actually a webpage creating piece of software - unless there is
>one named this I am not aware of.
>
>if you are looking for a program like frontpage/dreamweaver etc .. then you
>want to look at mozilla/netscape composer, or quanta, or bluefish.
>
>I suggest to start with mozilla/netscape composer
>
>
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RE: [newbie] Web Page
Title: RE: [newbie] Web Page -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of robert macdonald Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Web Page Can someone give me some info? Wondering what other webpage creating software there is for linux other than cgi? Thanks much _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com The best is Quanta+ found in your 8.x CDs or Screem or for a fee CoffeeCup. I like Quanta best. Used it to get my web pages all W3C compliant. HTH Dennis M.
Re: [newbie] Web Page
robert macdonald wrote:
> Can someone give me some info?
> Wondering what other webpage creating software there is for linux other
> than cgi? Thanks much
umm.. maybe you don't understand what you're asking. or maybe I don't
understand.
cgi in the way you refer to it is a system by which programs can be
'run' from one webpage to another to modify/provide content.
cgi isn't actually a webpage creating piece of software - unless there
is one named this I am not aware of.
if you are looking for a program like frontpage/dreamweaver etc .. then
you want to look at mozilla/netscape composer, or quanta, or bluefish.
I suggest to start with mozilla/netscape composer
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[newbie] Web Page
Can someone give me some info? Wondering what other webpage creating software there is for linux other than cgi? Thanks much _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Orinoco USB adapter
Has anyone gotten an Orinoco USB Wireless adapter working with Mandrake? I know the USB adapters are fairly new (in the last year or so anyway) and I have not found any info concerning the USB version of the adapter.
Re: [newbie] Identifying sound server for Xine
Looks like the VT82C686 so modules.conf should look something like this, I'd open up you case and have a look at the Southbridge to get the exact revision... as there are 2 versions "a" and "B" rule of thumb if I remember correctly is that "a" only supports ATA66 and "B" supports ATA100 (not sure if that helps much). alias char-major-116 snd alias snd-card-0 snd-card-via686a (for 686B, 8231) alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss This will setup OSS emulation so all you need to do is launch xine, open Tools/Audio and change "null" to "oss" and press enter. Or you can do it from bash # xine -A oss There's a good section on VIA audio drivers here > http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=128 and http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=88 Cheers Andy - Original Message - From: "John Richard Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Identifying sound server for Xine > Michael Adams wrote: > > >Ah Southbridge?... is it on this list. > > > >[root@localhost michael]# lspcidrake > >agpgart : VIA Technologies|VT82C691 [Apollo PRO] > >unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C598 [Apollo MVP3 AGP] > >unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super] > >unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] > >usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB > >usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB > >unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] > >via82cxxx_audio : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super AC97/Audio] > >Card:RIVA TNT2 : nVidia Corporation|Vanta > >unknown : Virtual|Hub [] > >unknown : Virtual|Hub [] > > > > > > > > > > I think your sound chip is VIA Technologies | VT82C686 and not VT 8233. > > I would expect your /etc/modules.conf to look more like, > > alias char-major-116 snd > alias snd-card-0 snd-card-via82C686 > > I have no experience with this chip, cannot say for sure if > supported,but it might well be. > John > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] html help files
robin wrote: > > Anne Wilson wrote: > > >A couple of weeks ago someone told me how to convert html help files into > >something more useful I thought I had saved it but I can't find it. I think > >it involed LaTeX (sp?) > > > >I'd appreciate seeing the instructions again. > > > If you have html2latex (it's not on the Mandrake CDs but can be > downloaded - you will also need a couple of Perl modules like > HTML::Tree, which are also easily downloadable) you can either import > the file into LyX (better if you want to edit it) or run html2latex from > the command line, then run latex on the resulting .tex file, then dvips > on the resulting .dvi file, then you end up with a nice printable .ps file. > > Apologies for the syntax of the last sentence! You mean the first sentence, don't you ;-) (I'm laughing with you -- I may have a new standard to beat ;-) Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] JDK
Hi Aaron, I downloaded j2ee for linux and I got a .tar.gz file. To untar this archive you could use "tar zxvf ". As Mark said, you need to have jsdk installed before you can run j2ee. You can setup your jsdk and j2ee directories anywhere, just make shure that you set the two (or three variables to be exact) to the right directories. On my system, I have the following variables set in the ".bashrc" file. #for java1.3 export JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/jdk1.3.1_03 export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH #for j2ee export J2EE_HOME=$HOME/java/j2sdkee1.3.1 export PATH=$J2EE_HOME/bin:$PATH This should get your j2ee working. You should be able to start your j2ee now by typing "j2ee -verbose". Anand On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Mark Stewart wrote: > RE: [newbie] JDKHi Aaron, > > J2EE is not a complete runtime the way the J2SE or even J2ME are. It is a > set of additional libraries that assume an installed JDK (provided by J2SE). > > I don't see any Linux files that have a .z extension. The only .z files are > for Solaris which may still not support gnuzip out-of-the-box. You might > have a somewhat older version but gnuzip should be able to handle Solaris > compress format (.z) just fine. You get errors if you run 'tar xvfz tar.z file>? The z option invokes gunzip as part of the untarring > operation. > > The download pages for 1.3.1_04 and 1.4.0_01 offer a "RedHat" rpm.bin file. > I've used the rpm with Mandrake in previous versions without trouble. You > just make sure the file is executable (chmod +x ) and run > it. It puts up the license agreement stuff and leaves a .rpm file in the > same directory when its done. Become root and install the rpm (rpm -ivh .rpm file>). This is probably the simplest way to install. They also have a > self-installing shell script version where you just have to execute the file > you download. Haven't tried that one but it should be fine. > > Hope this helps, > ::mark > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Myers, Dennis R NWO > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:23 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [newbie] JDK > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [newbie] JDK > > > > Hello All! > > I'm a Java developer that's recently migrated to Linux from Windows, but > I'm not making too much progress in some areas. > > I'm trying to install J2EE and seem to be hittin' brick walls. I've > downloaded various files from Sun, but cannot seem to open those that have a > '.z' extension, and I'm not finding a way to "untar" them via a terminal. It > seems that I have to install the standard developer's kit before I can > install the enterprise edition. Am I mistaken? If so that would make things > much, much easier. Also, any advise on setting up the shell scripts? > > Any input would be wonderful! > > Cheers! > > Aaron > > > > __ > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. > Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! > http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at > http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > Aaron, the files that have the .z extension, are they actually .gz? If so > you untar them with: tar -xvzf file.name.gz and then you will have the make > and make install commands to get them compiled. More help on the list if > needed. HTH > > Dennis M. > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sound problems
On Wednesday 10 July 2002 06:01 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > I don't disagree with the principles stated, as I tried to make > clear. What I do disagree with is when an ex Dos user or ex > winblows user is told to trash their beloved hardware that they may > > So it's simply a user choice, and not a Linux or Mandrake > > isssue to risk using win-hardware and/or introducing closed > > source binary programs in any form into their system. Doing so > > without knowledge or acceptance of the pitfalls is just plain > > foolishness. A user error, and a regression to a Winblows > > mindset. YMMV > > -- > > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas > > Hmmm. Well, I'm glad I was not saddled with such extreme > predjudices against the hardware I have now, or I certainly would > not have achieved the level of performance and satisfaction I now > enjoy as a result of a somewhat more open mindset when it comes to > soundcards and mobos. I just don't believe in blindly crucifying > LX extreme predjudices? blindly crucifying? trash hardware ? All I originally said was > Save your sanity, try to avoid win-hardware in the future, blame > uncle billy for aureal. Look here to find a_real sound card Seems like the pots callin the kettle black LX I'll stick with my original advice -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] sound problems (the political aspect)
> > >Save your sanity, try to avoid win-hardware in the future, > > > blame uncle billy for aureal. Look here to find a_real sound > > > card > > > > > > http://www.alsa-project.org/~goemon/ > > > -- > > > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas > > > > In defense of Aureal, the hardware itself is excellent. In all > > probability Aureal would be supplying Linux drivers right now if > > Creative Labs had not pulled a MicroShaft on them, taking them out > > in court over a lawsuit that had no basis in reality. As a young > > company, Aureal had not developed sufficient resources for an > > extended court battle. To add insult to injury, Creative Labs > > ended up absorbing Aureal's assets after they forced them out of > > business. Now everybody walks around extolling the pluses of > > Creative Labs cards, and most don't have a clue about what dirty > > tricks they pulled to get there. AKA M$. > > > > The Aureal hardware is high quality hardware, and it's no accident > > that Aureal owners are very passionate about their cards. Aureal > > as a company no longer exists in order to defend itself. Further, > > I hate to see someone hung for what they may or may not have done; > > AKA "Minority Report". Aureal was the kind of company that would > > have responded to user requests, if they had not been so busy > > battling Creative Labs in court. That choice was forcibly taken > > from them. > > > > I myself have an Nvidia card, a Via chipset, an HPT370 Raid > > controller, and an Aureal soundcard combo. According to > > "conventional" wisdom I should be totally dead in the water; > > however in my experience what I have encountered have been merely > > configuration issues, and Linux Mandrake has been more than able to > > handle the hardware as long as I correctly told it what to do. Now > > that the hardware curves have been negotiated, I see them as being > > no different from what everybody else has to go through in getting > > accustomed to their hardware's personalities and ideosyncracies; > > that even includes Winblows users -- they have configuration > > problems too. Even WITH native drivers. > > > > Winmodems deserve a special spot in hell; however that category > > does not apply to the superb hardware setup I've got now, or any of > > it's peripherals. They've all got drivers and they all work more > > than satisfactorily. And yes I think companies should be > > encouraged to support Linux more in regard to their peripherals; > > but not at the expense of a witchhunt against perfectly good > > hardware that works, or the intentional disregard of the "minority > > report". > > > > Best Regards, > > > > LX > >Well, your welcome to your opinions. The link I posted is Deno's > and Civileme's opinions. Mine are that _any_ hardware that requires > closed source proprietary drivers to function is WIN_hardware. It > can't and never will be supported by Linux, the drivers _will_ taint > your kernel, and possibly (probly) introduce unfixable, untraceable > conflicts and security issues. IOW's, reduce a real OS to the same > quality as those that come out of Redmond. That's the main reason > that linux-kernel (and Linus) routinely ignore any bug reports > involving nVidia drivers, or any win-hardare or closed source > proprietary software (eg, StarOffice) for that matter. There's also > the user risk that their hardware will be orphaned and abandoned, as > is the case with Aureal. > > So it's simply a user choice, and not a Linux or Mandrake isssue > to risk using win-hardware and/or introducing closed source binary > programs in any form into their system. Doing so without knowledge > or acceptance of the pitfalls is just plain foolishness. A user > error, and a regression to a Winblows mindset. YMMV Hmm. I really think "taint" is a problematic word since it suggests that it is mostly an ethical issue whereas I think Linus' objection is really mostly pragmatic. Black box drivers are (as you point out) a pain in the butt for a kernel developer. But when it comes to stuff that really effect his work he unrepentently uses the best tool available for the job (BitKeeper, the non-open source control system he and the other kernel hackers use). If his work involved 3D images I would guess he'd be using NVidia's proprietary drivers since they (and the video cards they're written for) are the best available. (Linux Journal had an interesting piece about Industrial Light and Magic's experience with Linux, NVidia and the drivers they use.) It would be great if NVidia were to release their drivers as open source. If and when Linux becomes a major force on the desktop perhaps they will. Certainly they do good bit of work to make the drivers available on Linux so they clearly have some interest, especially as ISVs port to it. Then again, unlike most companies who make the claim, their drivers *are* a competitive advantage for them. I also think the 'orphaned and abandoned
Re: [newbie] small KDE3.02 problem
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Roman Korcek wrote: > Hi, > > > i installed KDE3.02 most things seem ok except everytime i close a konsole > > i get a popup error " KDEInit could not launch 'konsole-noxft' " > > i just click the ok button..but how can i fix this ?? > > IIRC you need to edit the button's properties and remove the -noxft > from the execute program field. > It's somewhere in teh archives, too, I think. > > HTH > Roman thats correct. recreate the button on the task bar and make sure there are no attributes added to the command line. works great then. had the same problem. -- daRmaTTeR R L U: #186492 When ever people annoy me I remember, "Vengence is mine saith the Lord." My prayer is, "...here am I Lord...send me!" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] JDK
Title: RE: [newbie] JDK Hi Aaron, J2EE is not a complete runtime the way the J2SE or even J2ME are. It is a set of additional libraries that assume an installed JDK (provided by J2SE). I don't see any Linux files that have a .z extension. The only .z files are for Solaris which may still not support gnuzip out-of-the-box. You might have a somewhat older version but gnuzip should be able to handle Solaris compress format (.z) just fine. You get errors if you run 'tar xvfz ? The z option invokes gunzip as part of the untarring operation. The download pages for 1.3.1_04 and 1.4.0_01 offer a "RedHat" rpm.bin file. I've used the rpm with Mandrake in previous versions without trouble. You just make sure the file is executable (chmod +x ) and run it. It puts up the license agreement stuff and leaves a .rpm file in the same directory when its done. Become root and install the rpm (rpm -ivh ). This is probably the simplest way to install. They also have a self-installing shell script version where you just have to execute the file you download. Haven't tried that one but it should be fine. Hope this helps, ::mark -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Myers, Dennis R NWOSent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:23 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [newbie] JDK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] JDK Hello All! I'm a Java developer that's recently migrated to Linux from Windows, but I'm not making too much progress in some areas. I'm trying to install J2EE and seem to be hittin' brick walls. I've downloaded various files from Sun, but cannot seem to open those that have a '.z' extension, and I'm not finding a way to "untar" them via a terminal. It seems that I have to install the standard developer's kit before I can install the enterprise edition. Am I mistaken? If so that would make things much, much easier. Also, any advise on setting up the shell scripts? Any input would be wonderful! Cheers! Aaron __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Aaron, the files that have the .z extension, are they actually .gz? If so you untar them with: tar -xvzf file.name.gz and then you will have the make and make install commands to get them compiled. More help on the list if needed. HTH Dennis M.
RE: [newbie] Connection Sharing - best hardware
Title: RE: [newbie] Connection Sharing - best hardware
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Subject: [newbie] Connection Sharing - best hardware
Running Mdk8.2 and want to set up connection sharing so I can use adsl
from laptop via my desktop.
Laptop is running windows98.
Wondering what hardware would be best to get for the linux desktop.
eg: would http://web6.scan.co.uk/Products/Info.asp?WPID=1791 be suitable?
Any other advice?
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Hi, the nic card looks good, actually I have a full spread of NICs on my LAN from the $9.95 cheapo to a best of breed 3com, so linux will use just about any decent card. The thing that you will need to get the network to function is a hub or switch or a crossover cable to connect the two computers. Just thought I would mention these since you didn't say what you had.HTH
Dennis M.
Re: [newbie] sound problems
though I am not a Linux guru by any means, I would like to concur with the thoughs of Lyvim. I have severial win only type bits of hardware, like my Nvidia card, Win hp printer, etc. and have found that as LX mentioned it was only a matter of configuration. In fact I like to try to put LM on older hardware to see if I can and with only a few exceptions, ( mostly limited because of the gui requirements in the latest releases ) I have had only minor problems, or issues which are of little real importance. For example, I can't get LM_sensors to function properly on one of my boxes running 8.2. This is a non issue for me because I have an external readout for temps anyway, and besides I'm sure it will be corrected soon anyway. It's funny how there seems to be a view of some that older hardware, and older versions of Mandrake, are not worth the effort. it's also amusing how many of these who bash, some older piece of hardware or OS, was something they praised not that long ago. Cutting edge is all well and good, but it also has it's down side of needing tweaking to run really well on a large base of configurations. I personally prefer LM 8.0 over any version so far, as I can get it to run everything on everything I have. I like many of the new features of 8.2 and it runs better on my laptop, but on my main box, athlon 1 gig, ep-8kta3 pro MB, Nvidia tnt, SB Live, 3com NIC's, adaptec 2906 scsi, 8.0 runs much better. Why should I or anyone change when I can do everything I want with my hardware and a perfectly good older version of mandrake??? This of course is only my humble opinion, and Your mileage may vary I know I could have said IMHO and YMMV but it's still readable Yes? Tongue very much in cheek ;-) -- Mike McNeese currently running Mandrake versions 8.0 and 8.2 Linux registered user # 248955 "If obstacles are all we see, then we've lost sight of our goal!" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Identifying sound server for Xine
Michael Adams wrote: >Ah Southbridge?... is it on this list. > >[root@localhost michael]# lspcidrake >agpgart : VIA Technologies|VT82C691 [Apollo PRO] >unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C598 [Apollo MVP3 AGP] >unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super] >unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] >usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB >usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB >unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] >via82cxxx_audio : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super AC97/Audio] >Card:RIVA TNT2 : nVidia Corporation|Vanta >unknown : Virtual|Hub [] >unknown : Virtual|Hub [] > > > > I think your sound chip is VIA Technologies | VT82C686 and not VT 8233. I would expect your /etc/modules.conf to look more like, alias char-major-116 snd alias snd-card-0 snd-card-via82C686 I have no experience with this chip, cannot say for sure if supported,but it might well be. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] strange problem with sxga laptop screen and xf86 4.2.0
My screen is 15' sxga. Finally got x working this sunday but since then I've been trying to fix this small problem with it but no luck at all after 2 days so please help! =) I get a half inch thick black line on right hand side of the screen. Basically x isn't using all of the screen's width. The screen is not running off the left side. I've tried all kinds of things in the XFConfig-4 file including changing the sync, refresh, modelines, resolutions, etc.. Nothing works. In an attempt to generate new modelines, I called toshiba for more info on this screen and they said this screen doesn't have a refresh rate, sync rate, etc because of it's nature (liquid something or other) so, if x isn't using these sync & refresh values in the config file, how's it getting what it needs to display on the screen? Maybe that will shed some light on why the black line is there. Any help at all is helpful. Thanks, -T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Does Mandrake Support ever answer?
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:19, civileme wrote: > Adrian Burd wrote: > >>"et" == et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >et> On Tuesday 09 July 2002 04:50 pm, you wrote: > >>> I'm just wondering, but does one ever get a reply from Mandrake > >>> Support? I purchased a Mandrake 8.2 boxed set which is means to > >>> have online support. I went to the website and filled out the > >>> forms and put in a request. That was 4 days ago. Should I give > >>> up or wait some more? Has anyone else had any experience with > >>> Mandrake support? > >>> > >>> Thanks > > > >et> My bet was for some reason they could not reply (like a typo > >et> in your e-mail address) but what was the problem > > > >I've double checked that and I got a standard reply back by email when > >I registered, so I don't think it can be that. I'll check again though. > > > > > >et> we would all love to have a real problem to chew on... > > > >Well, I asked here a couple of days back and got a couple of replies which > >didn't work out unfortunately. > > > >The problems is this: > > > >System: Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop > > > >I put Mandrake 8.2 Powerpack edition on it as the sole OS (no dual > >booting this baby - though I might put VMWare on it later). I must say > >that the install was seamless (it even had a pretty recent NVIDIA > >driver). > > > >The machine came with a CD-ROM installed and a module bay which can > >house a CD-RW, a ZIP-250 or a Floppy. I installed Mandrake with the > >CD-RW installed. > > > >If I shutdown, take out the CD-RW and put in say, the ZIP drive, and > >reboot, I cannot access the zip drive and attempting to do so hangs > >the process (though fortunately not the machine). > > > >So, the problem of the day is, how to get the machine to recognize > >when I plug in a different piece of hardware into the module bay and > >have that piece of hardware work. Any ideas? > > > >Thanks for all your help. > > > >Adrian > > > > > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > Hmm, > > Well, your devices and filesystems must be set up in /etc/fstab. devfs > will mount what is there except that the ZIP and the CDRW and the Floppy > may all be sharing an ide designation., like /dev/hdc. > > so, when you boot with CDRW, the append line of your boot should contain > > hdc=ide-scsi (I am guessing on the hdc--never seen a Dell 8100 which > has other multiple issues with mandrake 8.2 regarding powersaving and > failure to wake up, thanks to a broken BIOS, but you can get the device > designator from /etc/lilo.conf > > to enable scsi emulation for the CDRW. ide-scsi works only for CDs, > DVDs, and CDRWs as does the ide-cd module. > > ide-floppy would handle the floppy unless it were a genuine floppy > interface (There would be a second plug in the bay) > > and ide-scsi of course won't work with the ZIP250. > > OK what you have is a device that is not set up to be switched by > hotplug or devfs, but which uses a customized version of windows which > is set to detect and adjust to whatever is plugged in. > > You can do that with linux, but it is no small task. You need separate > boots for each case and not enough of the system is in at boot to do the > autodetection and adjustment, so you have to set up the boots yourself > and select the one appropriate to your installation. Once you have > booted one of the three, there needs to be a script called before > /etc/fstab is read which commonts out all but one of the lines below... > > /mnt/zip /mnt/zip supermount dev=/dev/hdc4,fs=auto,sync,unhide 0 0 > /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount > dev=/dev/scd0,fs=iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 > /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,sync,unhide 0 0 > > That third line assumes that the floppy does have a separate connector > in the bay and is a genuine floppy interface. > > Well only ONE of those lines can be present in the /etc/fstab that is > read, so before it is read, in the file > > /etc/rc.sysinit > > You need to call a routine (which should reside as a root-executable in > /sbin, because that is all that is accessible when it is called) > which does the surgery on the file /etc/fstab. > > Now this needs to be done before any other filesystems are mounted but > after / is remounted read/write. > > That is very difficult to achieve, because all that is available is the > shell or a binary at that time, and this is not an easy shell script. > > An alternative is to keep all three commented out in /etc/fstab and have > /etc/rc.local call a script which uncomments the appropriate line and > also asks for a mount which forces the /etc/fstab entry to promote to > the supermount table. > > I have a sample here which was used to dual-boot a cantankerous CDRW > that did not want to play audio CDs under SCSI emulation. The > principles should
Re: [newbie] Identifying sound server for Xine
Ah Southbridge?... is it on this list. [root@localhost michael]# lspcidrake agpgart : VIA Technologies|VT82C691 [Apollo PRO] unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C598 [Apollo MVP3 AGP] unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super] unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] via82cxxx_audio : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super AC97/Audio] Card:RIVA TNT2 : nVidia Corporation|Vanta unknown : Virtual|Hub [] unknown : Virtual|Hub [] Contents of /etc/modules.conf alias usb-interface usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi I wont break Xine or my system if i tried typing in "OSS" or "ALSA" will i?. They seem the most common spoken of on the list. Is there any specific wording i have to type it in as? On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 20:07, Andy Napier wrote: > What Southbridge does the Epox EP-6VBA have? Could be one of following > VT8231, VT82C686A, VT82C686B, VT8233, VT8233A, VT8233C, VT8235 > > All but the VT8235 are currently supported, although the VT8233A requires a > new driver to get it working. > > Xine can use OSS, ALSA, ESD and ARTSD but I have only used it with OSS > (ALSA emulation). Check /etc/modules.conf for lines like; > > alias char-major-116 snd > > alias snd-card-0 snd-card-via (X being the southbridge you have) > > alias char-major-14 soundcore > > alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 > > alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss > > alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss > > alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss > > alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss > > alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss > > This provides the ALSA modules with oss emulation (or should do :) > > Try:> cat /proc/pci > > To get an idea or what hardware is installed. > > Hope it helps > > Andy > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:03 AM > Subject: [newbie] Identifying sound server for Xine > > > Unlike others, my stock standard Xine install seems to be running fine... > > except, i have to tell it which sound server i am using. > > > > I beleive there is more than one sound server choice i could have > > installed. > > > I have a standard install on onboard Epox EP-6VBA (VIA, Apollo, AC-97) > > > > How do i find which one i am running, and what do i tell Xine it is > > called. > > > -- > > Michael > > --- >- > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IBM Hard Drives?
I've been on a Western Digital trip for several years now and have no reason to change. I've used several professionally over the past decade, and own three of them personally (bought within the last three years) at last count. They are running 24/7, and I've never had so much as a squeak from them. I bought an 80G/7200RPM unit from Office Max (yes, really: they have great deals from time to time) last Christmas for $80 with combined O-Max and manufacturers rebates. I've just bought my second for $100 after mail in rebate. I have one Maxtor (Circuit City re-label) that likewise been flawless, but I realize that's not a good sample. Finally, I have one IBM drive (only a 1Gig or so) that must be five years old now, that is also running 24/7, and showing no signs of failing. Workload? I run SETI on my 4 machines - two Linux, two Wintendo - so the drives certainly aren't idle. just my 2c. julian. At 12:55 AM 7/10/02, you wrote: >I have mixed reports on the Maxtor disks. I've had two die on me within >their guarantee period. However, the replacements have worked fine. > >Barry Michels wrote: > >>Maxtor?!? All but 2 I've been around (at work) have died at one time or >>another. I would never buy a Maxtor or Quantum. >> >>YMMV >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:23 PM >>Subject: Re: [newbie] IBM Hard Drives? >> >> >>>Miark wrote: >>> I never had one, but I understood they were very good. But I thought IBM is getting out of the hard drive business...? Miark Sevatio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith: >What's your opinion of IBM Hard Drives? I was going to continue buying >them since IBM is a supporter of Linux. However, some of the customer >feedbacks I've been reading makes me apprehensive about touching these. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com >>>Basically, stay away. The new ones are not rated for 24/7 operation. >>>The only decent drives left in IDE seem to be Maxtor, and I have >>>returned one of their 60G models this year. >>> >>>Civileme >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >>>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com >> >> >> >> >> >>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to >>http://www.mandrakestore.com > >-- >Graham Watkins > >For me, morning begins when I realize that the soft warm body curled up >next to me is a cat. (Kinky Friedman - Frequent Flyer) > >Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org > > > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com == Julian A. Opificius. 802 Fawn Road, Elk River, MN 55330. Home: 763.441.1291, Cell: 612.296.2010 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3268206 == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kdm configure not working.
Try editing /etc/X11/prefdm to put PATH=/opt/kde3/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin derek On Wednesday 10 Jul 2002 4:03 am, Tim Holmes wrote: > I've gone through and made this change, but I still get KDM for KDE2.x. > > If I then try and load KDE3, it gives me IceWM. I've been using this > webpage to set it up. > > http://www.desktop-linux.net/kde3-tips.htm > > I went through and did as it says. And it doesn't make sense that > merely changing the name in the Session suddenly tells it to load KDE3. > > I usually load a machine in init 3. But since this machine is for other > users, I figured I'd start it in leve 5. For the life of me, I can't > figure out why it's not loading KDE3's KDM, or why it runs IceWM when I > select KDE3. > tdh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
