Re: [newbie] galeon and opera

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

I recently upgraded to Mozilla 1.1 and Galeon 1.2.6 (which now supports Mozilla
1.1.x and 1.2.x). On my system, they are about as fast as Opera. Mozilla 1.2a is
supposed to be even faster, but I don't feel like using an alpha-release.

On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:46:32 -0400, Paul Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I find Opera fastest for most pages. It also loads much faster and is less 
> memory intensive.  On the other hand, Galeon (1.25) does a better job of 
> rendering certain pages that are Internet Exploder optimized...Java too, 
> especially forms  (Mozilla 1.x does the best job here.)  Lastly, Konqueror is 
> convenient if you are also using it as a file manager.  I find that I end up 
> using multiple browsers.
> Just my $0.02.
> Paul
> 
> On Sunday 22 September 2002 9:20 pm, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> > I would like to get opinion about the relative qualities of galeon 1.0.3
> > and opera 6 regarding speed etc.

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[newbie] Icon for Netscape 7.0

[ZeroFighter1969]

Hi there!

I am using Mandrake Linux on my computer and I installed Netscape 7.0, but there is no 
icon anywhere on menu and desktop. What is happening on my computer and how can I have 
an icon for Netscape 7.0? I really would like to use Netscape 7.0 on my 
computer..Plus I am using Gnome. Thank you for your help.


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Re: [newbie] another one of OO's annoyances..

[Damian G]

On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 19:43:56 -0600
Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Would I be correct if I guessed that when 
> you _print_ the page, it comes out correct?
> 
> Miark
> 

wouldn't know, miark, i never even tried.
however, i doubt it, i found only minutes later
that the spellchacker was, for some obscure 
reason only comprehensible to the maker of such feature,
replacing " - " ( what do you call these in english? ;o))
with  question marks. it was not a bug in OO, not a font glitch,
the spellchecker was actually replacing the char, so 
probably that's what i would get.

thanks anyway for your quick response. disabling 
spellchecker worked.

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[newbie] Broadcast 2000/Cinelerra

[_nasturtium]

Hello,
A while ago some people suggested Broadcast 2000 to help create my "home 
videos" (an alternative to school Powerpoint assignments!). I also downloaded 
cinelerra off the heroinevirtual site (ignoring the fact i do not have 
anything remotely close to dual athlon 1.6ghz).

Basically, my problem is that i've made some slides as BMPs which i converted 
to PNGs to retain quality. (bitmaps aren't supported so i used PNGs). 
Unfortunately, when i add my PNGs to my "Asset" list they are converted to 
JPEGs of bad quality...is there a way to preserve the picture format/quality?

Also, as i am trying to make a slide show from pictures, is there a quick and 
easy way? When i add the pictures to the project they are only for 1 frame 
duration, i need to edit the .htal file directly to set the length.

Thanks in advance (and apologies for being a bit long-winded),
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Re: [newbie] Quake3A and SBLive! 5.1

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Monday 23 September 2002 05:33 pm, you wrote:

> Thanks Ron, much appreciated.  I got the game running without sound using
> your start command above.  I checked out that website and I'm now
> downloading the point release - hopefully that'll fix it.

No problem - thats what this list is for. That point release did fix my lack 
of sound, it should work with yours as well.

> Jeez playing Q3A without sound... can't hear the buggers coming!

Hehehehe, thats the way I felt - its just not the same! :-)

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Re: [newbie] galeon and opera

[Paul Kaplan]

I find Opera fastest for most pages. It also loads much faster and is less 
memory intensive.  On the other hand, Galeon (1.25) does a better job of 
rendering certain pages that are Internet Exploder optimized...Java too, 
especially forms  (Mozilla 1.x does the best job here.)  Lastly, Konqueror is 
convenient if you are also using it as a file manager.  I find that I end up 
using multiple browsers.
Just my $0.02.
Paul

On Sunday 22 September 2002 9:20 pm, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> I would like to get opinion about the relative qualities of galeon 1.0.3
> and opera 6 regarding speed etc.




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Re: [newbie] Spellchecker for Openoffice 1.0.1

[Richard Holt]

On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:35:50 -0400 mudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I was fooling around tonight and I realized that the Openoffice 1.0.1
> that installed with rc3 did not have a spell checker.
> 
> Looked on the Openoffice.org web page and found instructions to
> install a spell checker.
> 
> http://whiteboard.openoffice.org/lingucomponent/download_dictionary.html
> 
> Trouble is, I believe that I followed the instructions but when I load
> a test document that has deliberate misspellings the system locks
> hard... so hard that I have no alternative than to press the reset
> button.(don't like to have to do that)
> 
> 
> I was able to install a 641 version and the spellchecker works fine.
> Does anyone know if this is a problem that is common of have I done
> something drasticly wrong?
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> 
> Mudder

Check the instructions at 
http://dict.progbits.com/download_dictionary.html
There was a change in manual installation procedure for OOo101 that wasn't well 
documented. Since it works in build641, probably just need to check the location of 
the dictionary to /share/dict/ooo for OOo101.

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[newbie] rebuilding from src=no rpm

[Angus Auld]

Well, after installing literally hundreds of megs of software on my system, I'm still 
not getting anywhere trying to rebuild my fluxbox-0.1.12-1mdk.src.rpm.

I am getting more lines of text scrolling in my terminal, but the final output is 
still the samerpm build errors.

I wonder if someone would tell me how to get the output of my terminal to a file? I 
tried adding ">{filename}.txt" after the "rpm --rebuild {filename}.src.rpm" command, 
but it doesn't seem to transfer all of the output to the file. 

I am going to try a different src rpm, just to see if it is just this flux rpm that 
won't build.

I'm still having fun though ;-)


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Re: [newbie] another one of OO's annoyances..

[Miark]

Would I be correct if I guessed that when 
you _print_ the page, it comes out correct?

Miark



Damian G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith:

> 
> hi..! 
> 
> does anybody happen to get this, too? 
> 
> whenever i use a " - " character between two words, OO replaces
> it with a question mark. for example, 



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[newbie] Spellchecker for Openoffice 1.0.1

[mudder]

Greetings,

I was fooling around tonight and I realized that the Openoffice 1.0.1 that 
installed with rc3 did not have a spell checker.

Looked on the Openoffice.org web page and found instructions to install a
spell checker.

http://whiteboard.openoffice.org/lingucomponent/download_dictionary.html

Trouble is, I believe that I followed the instructions but when I load a test
document that has deliberate misspellings the system locks hard...
so hard that I have no alternative than to press the reset button.
(don't like to have to do that)


I was able to install a 641 version and the spellchecker works fine.
Does anyone know if this is a problem that is common of have I done
something drasticly wrong?

Any help would be appreciated.


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Re: [newbie] re Tux racer frame rate problem

[Gary Traffanstedt]

I can't get the Nvidia kernel driver to compile in MDK 9.0 RC2. Do I need to 
do something special? It looks like this is where it has trouble:

+ make NVdriver
echo \#define NV_COMPILER \"`cc -v 2>&1 | tail -1`\" > nv_compiler.h
cc -c -Wall -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts 
-Wparentheses -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wno-multichar  -O -MD -D__KERNEL__ 
-DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DNTRM -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR 
-D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE  -DNV_MAJOR_VERSION=1 
-DNV_MINOR_VERSION=0 -DNV_PATCHLEVEL=3123  -DNV_UNIX   -DNV_LINUX   
-DNVCPU_X86   -I. -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wno-cast-qual nv.c
In file included from /usr/include/linux/prefetch.h:13,
 from /usr/include/linux/list.h:6,
 from /usr/include/linux/module.h:11,
 from nv-linux.h:28,
 from nv.c:14:
/usr/include/asm/processor.h:55: `CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT' undeclared here 
(not in a function)
/usr/include/asm/processor.h:55: requested alignment is not a constant
In file included from /usr/include/linux/module.h:296,
 from nv-linux.h:28,
 from nv.c:14:
/usr/include/linux/version.h:2:2: #error 
"==="
/usr/include/linux/version.h:3:2: #error "You should not include 
/usr/include/{linux,asm}/ header"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:4:2: #error "files directly for the compilation 
of kernel modules."
/usr/include/linux/version.h:5:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:6:2: #error "glibc now uses kernel header files 
from a well-defined"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:7:2: #error "working kernel version (as 
recommended by Linus Torvalds)"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:8:2: #error "These files are glibc internal and 
may not match the"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:9:2: #error "currently running kernel. They 
should only be"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:10:2: #error "included via other system header 
files - user space"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:11:2: #error "programs should not directly 
include  or"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:12:2: #error " as well."
/usr/include/linux/version.h:13:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:14:2: #error "To build kernel modules please do 
the following:"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:15:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:16:2: #error " o Have the kernel sources 
installed"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:17:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:18:2: #error " o Make sure that the symbolic 
link"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:19:2: #error "   /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build 
exists and points to"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:20:2: #error "   the matching kernel source 
directory"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:21:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:22:2: #error " o Now copy /boot/vmlinuz.version.h 
to"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:23:2: #error "   /lib/modules/`uname 
-r`/build/include/linux/version.h"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:24:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:25:2: #error " o When compiling, make sure to use 
the following"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:26:2: #error "   compiler option to use the 
correct include files:"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:27:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:28:2: #error "   -I/lib/modules/`uname 
-r`/build/include"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:29:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:30:2: #error "   instead of"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:31:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:32:2: #error "   -I/usr/include/linux"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:33:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:34:2: #error "   Please adjust the Makefile 
accordingly."
/usr/include/linux/version.h:35:2: #error 
"==="
In file included from nv-linux.h:28,
 from nv.c:14:
/usr/include/linux/module.h:298: parse error before "UTS_RELEASE"
In file included from nv-linux.h:29,
 from nv.c:14:
/usr/include/linux/version.h:2:2: #error 
"==="
/usr/include/linux/version.h:3:2: #error "You should not include 
/usr/include/{linux,asm}/ header"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:4:2: #error "files directly for the compilation 
of kernel modules."
/usr/include/linux/version.h:5:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:6:2: #error "glibc now uses kernel header files 
from a well-defined"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:7:2: #error "working kernel version (as 
recommended by Linus Torvalds)"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:8:2: #error "These files are glibc internal and 
may not match the"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:9:2: #error "currently running kernel. They 
should only be"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:10:2: #error "included via other system header 
files - user space"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:11:2: #error "programs should not directly 
include  or"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:12:2: #error " as well."
/usr/include/linux/version.h:13:2: #error ""
/usr/in

Re: [newbie] The print job that wouldn't die

[et]

On Monday 23 September 2002 09:17 pm, you wrote:
> If the printer has a very large memory buffer inside
> it (40+ pages), killing the print job at the computer
> will not stop the printer from finishing printing what
> is in it's memory buffer already.

maybe unplugging the AC power from the printer. and waiting about 2 min. 
before plugging it back
>
> --- Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Reboot the computer and the printer. (?)
> > If that doesn't work, call up a priest
> > and ask him to bring holy water...  ;-)
> >
> > Miark
> >
> > Warren Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith:
> > > I have a print job I want to kill, but not even a
> >
> > stake through it's
> >
> > > heart seems to work. I have tried:
> > >
> > > * Killing it with the CUPS web admin tool
> >
> > (localhost:631). CUPS now says
> >
> > > there are no jobs pending, but the printer keeps
> >
> > printing.
> >
> > > * ps ax. There's nothing obvious to kill.
> > > * lpq. It says "lp is ready" and "no entries"
> > > * cancel lp. It says "cancel: cancel-job failed:
> > > client-error-not-possible"
> > >
> > > What else can I try to kill off this monster?
> > > --
> > > Warren Post
> > > Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras
> > > http://www.srcopan.vze.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [newbie] galeon and opera

[L.V.Gandhi]

On Monday 23 Sep 2002 1:52 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Monday 23 Sep 2002 2:20 am, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> > I would like to get opinion about the relative qualities of galeon 1.0.3
> > and opera 6 regarding speed etc.
>
>  They are both great browsers. Galeon is generally considered to be faster
> than Mozilla, but IMO Opera is faster even than Galeon, and  has a smaller
> memory footprint and will work better in low end machines.
> (This is just my opinion remember)
>
> However..  They both have their limitations. Galeon is possibly better at
> rendering pages with 'Internet Explorer' javascript on them. But on the
> other hand recent builds of Galeon (I am using 1.2.5) have been a little
> unstable and seem to crash a lot.
>
> It really comes down to which browser suits you best since their speed is
> similar.
> At the moment I think Opera's feature set is still better (just) . I like
> the
>
>  'mouse gestures' (galeon has them too but they do not work as well),
> 'tabbed windows'(Galeon has tabbed windows too, but they have to be all the
> same size)
>
> BTW: You mention galeon 1.03  That is a bit out of date, and I do not think
> it has either of these features.

galeon 1.0.3 which I use has tabs. My bank details are shown properly by 
running javascript. opera on the other hand complains about the script. 
Doesn't render the page as it should have been.
Any clues! it has java enabled and jacascript enabled.

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Re: [newbie] The print job that wouldn't die

[SystemAdmin ABC Mini Storage LLC]

If the printer has a very large memory buffer inside
it (40+ pages), killing the print job at the computer
will not stop the printer from finishing printing what
is in it's memory buffer already.

--- Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Reboot the computer and the printer. (?)
> If that doesn't work, call up a priest
> and ask him to bring holy water...  ;-)
> 
> Miark
> 
> 
> 
> Warren Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith:
> 
> > I have a print job I want to kill, but not even a
> stake through it's
> > heart seems to work. I have tried:
> > 
> > * Killing it with the CUPS web admin tool
> (localhost:631). CUPS now says
> > there are no jobs pending, but the printer keeps
> printing.
> > * ps ax. There's nothing obvious to kill.
> > * lpq. It says "lp is ready" and "no entries"
> > * cancel lp. It says "cancel: cancel-job failed:
> > client-error-not-possible"
> > 
> > What else can I try to kill off this monster?
> > -- 
> > Warren Post
> > Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras
> > http://www.srcopan.vze.com/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: [newbie] galeon and opera

[Angus Auld]

- Original Message -
From: Jason Guidry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 23 Sep 2002 09:03:27 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] galeon and opera


> galeon rules.  anyone who says otherwise is itchin' for a fight.
> 
> =]
> 
> On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 20:20, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> > I would like to get opinion about the relative qualities of galeon 1.0.3 and 
> > opera 6 regarding speed etc.
> -- 
> jason
> gmaestro.org
-

IMHO, 0-60 nuthin beats Opera! Now I will agree that Galeon.or Mozilla, do maybe 
have an edge on displaying certain sites.
I like Opera, what can I say? I'm using 6.03, and it is very stable on my Mdk8.2 
system. I don't seem to be able to get java working though, so that's a point for 
Galeon.

Opera 7 sounds like it may be a winner, but I don't know if that will translate into a 
Linux version anytime soon. 8-(

That's just IMHO...not fight pickin'. ;-) 

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Re: [newbie] re Tux racer frame rate problem

[Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas]

Em Seg 23 Set 2002 17:18, Gary Traffanstedt escreveu:

Hi!

If you follow the link below instructions you'll be a happy tux racing 
player (with gf2!)

> What are the proper steps to take to install the linux drivers
> provided by Nvidia? I have a GeForce 2 and Mandrake 9.0 RC2.
> Thank you!
=
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep 13 21:49:54 2002
From: James Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] LM 8.2 and GeForce 3 Ti 200
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:03:05 -0400

These are good instructions on installing nvidia's video drivers: 
http://mdkxp.by-a.com/htm/tutorials/nvidiacli.php .
===

Just ONE thing: 
For the author... he had to use a link to the driver!
For me a plain 'glx' was enough!

Ah!. Using Mdk8.2 with gf2 integrated!

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Re: [newbie] re Tux racer frame rate problem

[Dennis Myers]

On Monday 23 September 2002 05:01 pm, Gary Traffanstedt wrote:
> > You can get the .src.rpm files from NVidia, get the NVIDIA-GLX and
> > NVIDIAkernel source rpms. I think they are still the 1.0-2960.src.rpm
> > files. Down load them to a directory in home named as you like it. Then
> > from a console su and give root password, at the prompt do "  rpm
> > --rebuild NVIDIA* " and hit enter you should get a whole bunch of script
> > and then in the end return to the prompt. At that prompt the change
> > directory using " cd /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586" then at the new prompt type
> > "ls" you should see the list of two rpms you just built. then do " urpmi
> > NVIDIA*  " and it will install the rpms. The Nvidia site tells what files
> > (etc/x11/xconfig-4 or something close to that) to edit and what to edit.
> > Sorry if this is more info than you need but it is hard for me to tell
> > what level of understanding you are at. HTH
>
>   I've tried two approaches and neither have worked. First I tried to build
> the source rpm and when that failed, I tried to use the binary for MDK 8.2.
> That installed but didn't work. I have an smp machine which if I understand
> correctly, makes a big difference. I followed your directions above and
> when I try to compile the source rpm, here is the output that I get:
>
> [root@gary nvidia]# rpm --rebuild NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123.src.rpm
> Installing NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123.src.rpm
> Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.35480
> + umask 022
> + cd /usr/src/RPM/BUILD
> + cd /usr/src/RPM/BUILD
> + rm -rf NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123
> + /bin/gzip -dc /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123.tar.gz
> + tar -xf -
> + STATUS=0
> + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'
> + cd NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123
> + exit 0
> Executing(%build): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.94779
> + umask 022
> + cd /usr/src/RPM/BUILD
> + cd NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123
> + set +e
> ++ rpm -q --queryformat '%{VERSION}' rpm
> + RPMVERSION=4.0.4
> ++ echo 4.0.4
> ++ awk -F . '{print $1;}'
> + RPMMAJOR=4
> ++ echo 4.0.4
> ++ awk -F . '{print $2;}'
> + RPMMINOR=0
> ++ echo 4.0.4
> ++ awk -F . '{print $3;}'
> + RPMPATCH=4
> + '[' 4 -le 3 -a 0 -le 0 -a 4 -lt 4 ']'
> + make NVdriver
> echo \#define NV_COMPILER \"`cc -v 2>&1 | tail -1`\" > nv_compiler.h
> cc -c -Wall -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts
> -Wparentheses -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wno-multichar  -O -MD
> -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DNTRM -D_GNU_SOURCE
> -DRM_HEAPMGR
> -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE  -DNV_MAJOR_VERSION=1
> -DNV_MINOR_VERSION=0 -DNV_PATCHLEVEL=3123  -DNV_UNIX   -DNV_LINUX
> -DNVCPU_X86   -I. -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wno-cast-qual nv.c
> In file included from /usr/include/linux/prefetch.h:13,
>  from /usr/include/linux/list.h:6,
>  from /usr/include/linux/module.h:11,
>  from nv-linux.h:28,
>  from nv.c:14:
> /usr/include/asm/processor.h:55: `CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT' undeclared
> here (not in a function)
> /usr/include/asm/processor.h:55: requested alignment is not a constant
> In file included from /usr/include/linux/module.h:296,
>  from nv-linux.h:28,
>  from nv.c:14:
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:2:2: #error
> "==="
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:3:2: #error "You should not include
> /usr/include/{linux,asm}/ header"
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:4:2: #error "files directly for the
> compilation of kernel modules."
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:5:2: #error ""
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:6:2: #error "glibc now uses kernel header
> files from a well-defined"
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:7:2: #error "working kernel version (as
> recommended by Linus Torvalds)"
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:8:2: #error "These files are glibc internal
> and may not match the"
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:9:2: #error "currently running kernel. They
> should only be"
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:10:2: #error "included via other system header
> files - user space"
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:11:2: #error "programs should not directly
> include  or"
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:12:2: #error " as well."
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:13:2: #error ""
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:14:2: #error "To build kernel modules please
> do the following:"
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:15:2: #error ""
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:16:2: #error " o Have the kernel sources
> installed"
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:17:2: #error ""
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:18:2: #error " o Make sure that the symbolic
> link"
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:19:2: #error "   /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
> exists and points to"
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:20:2: #error "   the matching kernel source
> directory"
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:21:2: #error ""
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:22:2: #error " o Now copy
> /boot/vmlinuz.version.h to"
> /usr/include/linux/version.h:23:2: #error " 

[newbie] Re: another one of OO's annoyances..

[Damian G]

On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 21:38:51 -0300
Damian G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> hi..! 
> 
> does anybody happen to get this, too? 
> 
> whenever i use a " - " character between two words, OO replaces
> it with a question mark. for example, 
> 
> hello - world 
> 
> gets replaced by
> 
> hello ? world


never mind never mind never mind never mind never mind never mind never mind
never mind never mind never mind never mind never mind never mind never mind
never mind never mind never mind never mind never mind never mind never mind
never mind never mind never mind never mind 

i hate being stupid.

Damian


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Re: [newbie] Constant computer crashes

[Roland Hughes]

The reason for the "mem=nopentium" in the lilo is that when the kernal was developed 
there are memory commands/coding that refer to pentium only commands. If you are 
running a Athlon/duron which do not have these commands they cause flaky/erratic 
behaviour.
Roly

On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:37:15 -0500
Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sunday September 22 2002 05:16 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Thursday 19 Sep 2002 8:56 pm, you wrote:
> > > On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 09:46:37 -0500
> > >
> > > Marcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > lilo append mem=nopentium
> >
> > Charles, could you tell me more about this?  Is this something that
> > all of us using Athlons/Durons should be using?  Obviously this is
> > there to avoid specific problems, what are they?
> 
> Altho all chipsets and processors have bugs (errata), any 
> manufacturer, AMD, Intel, Cyrix, SiS, VIA, etc., the best way to avoid
> Athlon or Duron problems is to _only_ use motherboards and power 
> supplies that are recommended by AMD
> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348,00.html
> 
> That link is for XP's, but there's similar links for Tbirds and 
> Durons. I suspect Marcia's problem probly starts with the PSU and/or 
> motherboard. Ram quality is another likely culprit. Ram performance
> and reliability is greatly affected by the quality of the mobo and PSU
> tho.  So even very good ram mght have problems on a marginal mobo/PSU.
> 'Course overheating is always a suspect.
> 
> FWIW, I've had a 1.4 Tbird oc'd to 1.55 with an AMD approved mobo 
> and PSU for over a year an a half. Never used the nopentium option, 
> never had any problems. GeF2 w/64mb's usin the open source XFree86 
> driver. The nopentium parameter is to limit the page size requests
> from system ram for the AGP card.  If the video card has 16mb ram or
> more onboard, the system ram probly will never, or rarely be used
> anyhow.  If system ram is being used by the Vcard, and causing
> problems, one quick and dirty way fix is to set the AGP aperature in
> bios to 4mb. Drawback is that it effectively disables AGP sidebanding
> and will somewhat decrease 3d/accel performance.
> 
>For more on the AMD/AGP issue see,  
> http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Linux/35/175/7626960/
>Note: "There *is* an Athlon/AGP issue.  This issue has
> *not* been tied to a bug with the Athlon/Duron processors."
> ...and...
> "Our conclusion is that the operating system is creating coherency
> problems within the system by creating cacheable translation to AGP
> GART-mapped physical memory." 
> 
>IMO, another suspect is closed source proprietary drivers. As I
>said, even on a highly oc'd, hot system, I've not had any problems
>without nopentium usin the openXFree86-4.2.1 source driver which
>BTW, now provides some 3d/accel support for nvidia cards.
>XFree86-4.2.1 included with Mdk 9.0. 
> -- 
> Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas
> 
> 


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[newbie] another one of OO's annoyances..

[Damian G]

hi..! 

does anybody happen to get this, too? 

whenever i use a " - " character between two words, OO replaces
it with a question mark. for example, 

hello - world 

gets replaced by

hello ? world

... does anybody happen to know how to stop this?
i've already tried disabling nearly every autocomplete, 
formatting, etc etc etc options.. however it keeps happening..


Damian

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[newbie] Dell Inspiron 8200

[Franki]

Hi guys, 

I am thinking of getting a Dell Inspiron 8200...

It has a P4 CPU and Geoforce4 mobility vid card..

Am I likely to have problems getting that setup to run linux


any tips would be great.

rgds

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[newbie] More reasons to Hate M$hit. Creative too, which I'm getting pretty pissed off with...

[FemmeFatale]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/27232.html

One of these days when I Can completely stop using windows I will enjoy it 
very much.

OTOH, this affects Linux too apparently so... what to do ?

*sigh*  I need an OS that won't fuck me over ... and ditto for 
manufacturers & politicians.  Nice dream I know...
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Re: [newbie] for suggestion

[Michael Notforyou]

The 2800 uses an Intel chipset, so my Website won't apply, except the
part about ACPI - that will still be necessary. Check
http://www.linux-laptop.net. There may be something on the 2800 there.


On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 12:37, qhwang wrote:
> Thank you. I will check your website. My model is Presario 2800. What's your
> suggestion?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> QingHua.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: [newbie] Kernel Panic on boot from Install CD on Athlon

[Cory]

Also, what video card is being used? What happens when you attempt an
install in text mode? It would seem that if the problem continues across
multiple distros, then hardware would be the first place I would start
looking. Try a different video card. Also, you may want to look into the
possibility of a bad install CD, I had a similar problem installing MDK 8.2,
and then burned another copy and it worked flawless... a lot of research,
time and effort was wasted on that one. (unlikely that this is the case
since redhat does the same thing, but worth a shot.)

 -Original Message-
From:   ravi r [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, September 23, 2002 10:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] Kernel Panic on boot from Install CD on Athlon

 << File: message.footer >> Hi,

I am trying to install Mandrake8.2 on my new
Athlon(XP1800+) box from the installation CDs
(downloaded from one of the mirrors). 
The installer interface comes up and when i choose to
install, it fails and issue a kernel panic. 
The following are the first few error msgs:

vesafb:frame buffer  
vesafb:mode is 800X600X16; line length = 1600; pages 3
vesafb:protected mode interface at c000:c590

I would like to know what is the problem and how i can
get around it. 
I had the same problem when i tried to install
redhat7.2

Other info.
has win2k running( planning to make a dual boot
machine)

Thanks
Ravi

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Re: [newbie] re Tux racer frame rate problem

[Gary Traffanstedt]

> You can get the .src.rpm files from NVidia, get the NVIDIA-GLX and
> NVIDIAkernel source rpms. I think they are still the 1.0-2960.src.rpm
> files. Down load them to a directory in home named as you like it. Then
> from a console su and give root password, at the prompt do "  rpm --rebuild
> NVIDIA* " and hit enter you should get a whole bunch of script and then in
> the end return to the prompt. At that prompt the change directory using "
> cd /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586" then at the new prompt type "ls" you should see
> the list of two rpms you just built. then do " urpmi NVIDIA*  " and it will
> install the rpms. The Nvidia site tells what files (etc/x11/xconfig-4 or
> something close to that) to edit and what to edit.
> Sorry if this is more info than you need but it is hard for me to tell what
> level of understanding you are at. HTH

I've tried two approaches and neither have worked. First I tried to build the 
source rpm and when that failed, I tried to use the binary for MDK 8.2. That 
installed but didn't work. I have an smp machine which if I understand 
correctly, makes a big difference. I followed your directions above and when 
I try to compile the source rpm, here is the output that I get:

[root@gary nvidia]# rpm --rebuild NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123.src.rpm
Installing NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123.src.rpm
Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.35480
+ umask 022
+ cd /usr/src/RPM/BUILD
+ cd /usr/src/RPM/BUILD
+ rm -rf NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123
+ /bin/gzip -dc /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123.tar.gz
+ tar -xf -
+ STATUS=0
+ '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'
+ cd NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123
+ exit 0
Executing(%build): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.94779
+ umask 022
+ cd /usr/src/RPM/BUILD
+ cd NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123
+ set +e
++ rpm -q --queryformat '%{VERSION}' rpm
+ RPMVERSION=4.0.4
++ echo 4.0.4
++ awk -F . '{print $1;}'
+ RPMMAJOR=4
++ echo 4.0.4
++ awk -F . '{print $2;}'
+ RPMMINOR=0
++ echo 4.0.4
++ awk -F . '{print $3;}'
+ RPMPATCH=4
+ '[' 4 -le 3 -a 0 -le 0 -a 4 -lt 4 ']'
+ make NVdriver
echo \#define NV_COMPILER \"`cc -v 2>&1 | tail -1`\" > nv_compiler.h
cc -c -Wall -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts 
-Wparentheses -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wno-multichar  -O -MD -D__KERNEL__ 
-DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DNTRM -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR 
-D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE  -DNV_MAJOR_VERSION=1 
-DNV_MINOR_VERSION=0 -DNV_PATCHLEVEL=3123  -DNV_UNIX   -DNV_LINUX   
-DNVCPU_X86   -I. -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wno-cast-qual nv.c
In file included from /usr/include/linux/prefetch.h:13,
 from /usr/include/linux/list.h:6,
 from /usr/include/linux/module.h:11,
 from nv-linux.h:28,
 from nv.c:14:
/usr/include/asm/processor.h:55: `CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT' undeclared here 
(not in a function)
/usr/include/asm/processor.h:55: requested alignment is not a constant
In file included from /usr/include/linux/module.h:296,
 from nv-linux.h:28,
 from nv.c:14:
/usr/include/linux/version.h:2:2: #error 
"==="
/usr/include/linux/version.h:3:2: #error "You should not include 
/usr/include/{linux,asm}/ header"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:4:2: #error "files directly for the compilation 
of kernel modules."
/usr/include/linux/version.h:5:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:6:2: #error "glibc now uses kernel header files 
from a well-defined"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:7:2: #error "working kernel version (as 
recommended by Linus Torvalds)"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:8:2: #error "These files are glibc internal and 
may not match the"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:9:2: #error "currently running kernel. They 
should only be"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:10:2: #error "included via other system header 
files - user space"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:11:2: #error "programs should not directly 
include  or"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:12:2: #error " as well."
/usr/include/linux/version.h:13:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:14:2: #error "To build kernel modules please do 
the following:"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:15:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:16:2: #error " o Have the kernel sources 
installed"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:17:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:18:2: #error " o Make sure that the symbolic 
link"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:19:2: #error "   /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build 
exists and points to"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:20:2: #error "   the matching kernel source 
directory"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:21:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:22:2: #error " o Now copy /boot/vmlinuz.version.h 
to"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:23:2: #error "   /lib/modules/`uname 
-r`/build/include/linux/version.h"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:24:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:25:2: #error " o When compiling, make sure to use 
the following"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:26:2: #error "  

Re: [newbie] Constant computer crashes

[Tom Brinkman]

On Monday September 23 2002 02:46 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:

> I 'choose the GeForce3 for my high end system and I 'choose' to use
> the nvidia drivers.
> That is part of what linux is about--the ability to have choice.

> Charles

   Correct, Linux is about choices, altho the nVidia driver is about 
closed source proprietary who knows what? ... no choice, plus the 
unauditable introduction of other possible conflicts and/or security 
issues.  Minus choice.

We can keep battin this back an forth as far as the ballyhooed AMD 
(non-existent IMO 'bug'), but it seems to have come down to  ... we 
both use AMD approved hardware,... we're both usin the same OS and 
kernel (even version, current cooker 9.0), ... I believe you've come to 
recognize now it's not a AMD processor bug  only difference that's 
left is the user choice of video driver. 

   Your choice of the nvidia closed source driver appears to need the 
kernel nopentium bandaid to work, my choice to use the open source 
XFree driver isn't crippled in this respect. So, as I've been sayin, 
driver choice seems to be the standout problem that's left, probly 
further aggravated for those users who failed to choose apprv'd quality 
hardware to begin with.   YMMV
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Re: [newbie] Re: monitor flickering problem

[rhp.mac]

Erik,


> Which video card did apple put in your iMac?  My partner's iMac has an
> Nvidia card, so at install, he used video=riva (or whatever it
> lists)...the point is that he installed with riva drivers.
>
Which video card did apple put in your iMac?

My partner's iMac has an Grapuic card: ATI MACH 64.

how may I fix flickering problem?

thanks for help

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Re: [newbie] How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

[iggy]

On Monday 23 September 2002 05:40 pm, Alastair Scott wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 22:00, iggy wrote:
> > I've been reading the documentation for mandrake 9.0 rc2 and came across
> > this little gem of a linkat
> > http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html . I thought I'd
> > share it with everyone as I can state, definatele, I've been guilty of
> > these.  Maybe I'm not the only one :^)
>
> It has value up to a point, but is too rigid and is ignorant of people
> with abilities different to those of the author. It reminds me of the
> frightful proscriptive grammar textbooks used when education was a
> little less enlightened.
>
> For example, "Write in clear, grammatical, correctly-spelled language"
> sounds wonderful until someone who is dyslexic wants to ask a question,
> for example; not everyone's strength is in the written form of a
> language, and one has to be forgiving.
>
> Alastair

Point well taken.  BTW, did you notice any spelling mistakes in my original 
post?  following the smart-questions essay, I'd at least be ignored, or 
worse.

Here's hoping I never get to busy to be polite.
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Re: [newbie] re Tux racer frame rate problem

[Dennis Myers]

On Monday 23 September 2002 03:18 pm, Gary Traffanstedt wrote:
>   Install the correct drivers for my hardware?!?!?! Are you kidding?
> Unfortunately, no I have not. I tried to install what I think was the
> correct driver package from Nvidia but I wasn't able to get it to work so I
> reverted back to the default, which works great for everything but
> TuxRacer. What are the proper steps to take to install the linux drivers
> provided by Nvidia? I have a GeForce 2 and Mandrake 9.0 RC2.
>
> Thank you!
> Gary
>
> On Monday 23 September 2002 12:55 pm, Richard Gelling scribbled something
>
> about:
> > I take it you have installed the nvidia linux drivers?
You can get the .src.rpm files from NVidia, get the NVIDIA-GLX and 
NVIDIAkernel source rpms. I think they are still the 1.0-2960.src.rpm files. 
Down load them to a directory in home named as you like it. Then from a 
console su and give root password, at the prompt do "  rpm --rebuild NVIDIA* 
" and hit enter you should get a whole bunch of script and then in the end 
return to the prompt. At that prompt the change directory using " cd 
/usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586" then at the new prompt type "ls" you should see the 
list of two rpms you just built. then do " urpmi NVIDIA*  " and it will 
install the rpms. The Nvidia site tells what files (etc/x11/xconfig-4 or 
something close to that) to edit and what to edit. 
Sorry if this is more info than you need but it is hard for me to tell what 
level of understanding you are at. HTH

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Re: [newbie] How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

[Alastair Scott]

On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 22:00, iggy wrote:

> I've been reading the documentation for mandrake 9.0 rc2 and came across this 
> little gem of a linkat http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html .  
> I thought I'd share it with everyone as I can state, definatele, I've been 
> guilty of these.  Maybe I'm not the only one :^)

It has value up to a point, but is too rigid and is ignorant of people
with abilities different to those of the author. It reminds me of the
frightful proscriptive grammar textbooks used when education was a
little less enlightened. 

For example, "Write in clear, grammatical, correctly-spelled language"
sounds wonderful until someone who is dyslexic wants to ask a question,
for example; not everyone's strength is in the written form of a
language, and one has to be forgiving.

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Re: [newbie] The print job that wouldn't die

[Miark]

Reboot the computer and the printer. (?)
If that doesn't work, call up a priest
and ask him to bring holy water...  ;-)

Miark



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> I have a print job I want to kill, but not even a stake through it's
> heart seems to work. I have tried:
> 
> * Killing it with the CUPS web admin tool (localhost:631). CUPS now says
> there are no jobs pending, but the printer keeps printing.
> * ps ax. There's nothing obvious to kill.
> * lpq. It says "lp is ready" and "no entries"
> * cancel lp. It says "cancel: cancel-job failed:
> client-error-not-possible"
> 
> What else can I try to kill off this monster?
> -- 
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> 
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Re: [newbie] Quake3A and SBLive! 5.1

[Sharrea]

On Tuesday 24 Sep 2002 7:32 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Hi Sharrea.
> I had this same problem. I installed the full (Loki purchase) version of
> Q3 and got the same sound error you did. I had to downloand a point
> release from the ID Software web site. This fixed it. To see if it is a
> problem with your sound drivers, you can start the game with no sound,
> like this:
> quake3 +set s_initsound 0
> If it does run with no sound - then it is a sound driver issue.
> For more info go to:
> http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/
> and here is where you can d/l the actual file you need:
> ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake3/linux/
> Beware, it is a 30+ meg file!
> Hope this helps ya get back to fraggin'... :-)

Thanks Ron, much appreciated.  I got the game running without sound using 
your start command above.  I checked out that website and I'm now 
downloading the point release - hopefully that'll fix it.

Jeez playing Q3A without sound... can't hear the buggers coming!

Thanks again
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Re: [newbie] for suggestion

[Brian Parish]

On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 20:26, qhwang wrote:
> Hi There,
> 
> I bought a Compaq laptop recently and I plan to install Mandrake on it. Is there 
>anyone has experience about installing Mandrake with a pre-installed Windows XP 
>system? Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> 
> Wishes,
> 
> 
> QingHua.

Well the main issue is likely to be making room for Mandrake as the
laptop will likely have NTFS installed.  Diskdrake can't resize this, so
you would either have to reinstall XP on a smaller partition or use a
partitioning tool that can resize NTFS.  I suspect that Partition Magic
can do this.  A second hard drive is also possible of course, but that
may not be an option.

Another possibility is to use a tool like ghost to copy the XP image to
another machine, then back again, selecting a smaller partition size.

If you are fortunate enough to find that XP is installed on FAT32, then
no problem.  Diskdrake can resize it during the install.  Backup first
of course!

One caveat on all of this - do you have a way of reinstalling XP from
scratch if it fails?  i.e. Did you get a restore CD with the system?  If
the only restore option is from a partition on the hard drive, think
twice and then once more before jumping in and make sure you understand
the way this works.

HTH
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[newbie] How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

[iggy]

I've been reading the documentation for mandrake 9.0 rc2 and came across this 
little gem of a linkat http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html .  
I thought I'd share it with everyone as I can state, definatele, I've been 
guilty of these.  Maybe I'm not the only one :^)

Still RTFM!
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Re: [newbie] The print job that wouldn't die

[s]

On Monday 23 September 2002 03:10 pm, Warren Post wrote:
> I have a print job I want to kill, but not even a stake through
> it's heart seems to work. I have tried:

> What else can I try to kill off this monster?

delete the files in /var/spool/cups & /var/spool/cups/tmp & then 
service cups restart.
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Re: [newbie] re Tux racer frame rate problem

[Richard Gelling]

On Monday 23 September 2002 21:18, Gary Traffanstedt wrote:

http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/hardware/hgforce.html

http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/hardware/index.html#nom

These 2 links may help, I am probably not the best person to ask as far as 
Mandrake is concerned,  as I am actually a Suse user, but shows a interest in 
other distros, you will need to get the closest rpms for 9.0 RC2 install them 
as explained in the top link, you might have to edit the XF86config file to 
change the 'nv driver' in the device section to 'Nvidia', also you might need 
to run 'switch2nvidia_glx' as root. Of course the rpms available might not 
suit 9.0 RC2. In which case you might have to install from the source 
tarballs. Hope some of this ramblings help, I am not terribly good at putting 
it into words ,but hopefully the links will help

Richard G.





>   Install the correct drivers for my hardware?!?!?! Are you kidding?
> Unfortunately, no I have not. I tried to install what I think was the
> correct driver package from Nvidia but I wasn't able to get it to work so I
> reverted back to the default, which works great for everything but
> TuxRacer. What are the proper steps to take to install the linux drivers
> provided by Nvidia? I have a GeForce 2 and Mandrake 9.0 RC2.
>
> Thank you!
> Gary
>
> On Monday 23 September 2002 12:55 pm, Richard Gelling scribbled something
>
> about:
> > I take it you have installed the nvidia linux drivers?

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Re: [newbie] Re: monitor flickering problem

[Michael Lewis]

Just an off the wall idea.  The same thing happened to me when I
installed Mandarke 7.2  (I even got a new monitor from Dell before I
figured it out the problem;-)  Do you have a fan or other electrical
device operating in close proximity to your monitor?  If so, move it.

Just in case,

Michael


On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 14:03, Erik wrote:
> Which video card did apple put in your iMac?  My partner's iMac has an 
> Nvidia card, so at install, he used video=riva (or whatever it 
> lists)...the point is that he installed with riva drivers.
> 
> Erik
> 
> 
> rhp.mac wrote:
> 
> >
> >--
> >
> >>De: "rhp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Asunto: monitor flickering problem
> >>Fecha: lun., 23 sept 2002 15:21
> >>
> >
> >>hei people,
> >>
> >>my monitor blinking all time.
> >>I need to configure XWindows.  I am running Mandrake, I don't
> >>know how it is done.
> >>
> >>I am using:
> >>
> >>mandrake linux ppc 8.2
> >>
> >>kernel version 2.4 18.6.1
> >>
> >>monitor Imac/powerpc-640x480
> >>
> >>I run KDE version 2.2.2
> >>
> >>thanks for help
> >>
> >>
> >>rhp
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] re Tux racer frame rate problem

[Gary Traffanstedt]

Install the correct drivers for my hardware?!?!?! Are you kidding? 
Unfortunately, no I have not. I tried to install what I think was the correct 
driver package from Nvidia but I wasn't able to get it to work so I reverted 
back to the default, which works great for everything but TuxRacer.
What are the proper steps to take to install the linux drivers provided by 
Nvidia? I have a GeForce 2 and Mandrake 9.0 RC2.

Thank you!
Gary

On Monday 23 September 2002 12:55 pm, Richard Gelling scribbled something 
about:
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[newbie] The print job that wouldn't die

[Warren Post]

I have a print job I want to kill, but not even a stake through it's
heart seems to work. I have tried:

* Killing it with the CUPS web admin tool (localhost:631). CUPS now says
there are no jobs pending, but the printer keeps printing.
* ps ax. There's nothing obvious to kill.
* lpq. It says "lp is ready" and "no entries"
* cancel lp. It says "cancel: cancel-job failed:
client-error-not-possible"

What else can I try to kill off this monster?
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[newbie] re Tux racer frame rate problem

[Richard Gelling]

I take it you have installed the nvidia linux drivers?
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Re: [newbie] Re: monitor flickering problem

[Erik]

Which video card did apple put in your iMac?  My partner's iMac has an 
Nvidia card, so at install, he used video=riva (or whatever it 
lists)...the point is that he installed with riva drivers.

Erik


rhp.mac wrote:

>
>--
>
>>De: "rhp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Asunto: monitor flickering problem
>>Fecha: lun., 23 sept 2002 15:21
>>
>
>>hei people,
>>
>>my monitor blinking all time.
>>I need to configure XWindows.  I am running Mandrake, I don't
>>know how it is done.
>>
>>I am using:
>>
>>mandrake linux ppc 8.2
>>
>>kernel version 2.4 18.6.1
>>
>>monitor Imac/powerpc-640x480
>>
>>I run KDE version 2.2.2
>>
>>thanks for help
>>
>>
>>rhp
>>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [newbie] Constant computer crashes

[Charles A Edwards]

On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:58:17 -0500
Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've seen you mention you have a Soyo Dragon +, an AMD apprv'd 
> board. What aggravates the AGP issue, any OS, is PSU's. Specially with
> 
> high performance AGP video cards from nVidia or ATI. Watt's,
> advertised specs aren't the important PSU specs. Manufacturer is,
> particularly model no., as they're marketed under several brand names

It's a 435w Enermax Dual fan, a higher watted model than that listed as
necessary by AMD for the XP1900+.

I always research and an use care in the hardware I purchase even if it
is for a cheap system. I even still believe that the 'best' 3d card that
can be had for the money, especially for linux use, is the ATI Xpert2000
32MB (not the pro version).
I 'choose the GeForce3 for my high end system and I 'choose' to use the
nvidia drivers.
That is part of what linux is about--the ability to have choice. 

Currently I am quite happy with the performance I get from all my
systems, except for my gateway where I have to run Win98 but that is
another story.


Charles

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Re: [newbie] Reoocuring Desktop Zip Icon

[Tom Brinkman]

On Monday September 23 2002 01:03 pm, Chris Edwards wrote:
> Mr. Brinkman,

Friends here, call me Tom
>
> Thank you for your suggestion. For whatever reason, the icon is no
> longer appearing ... and I haven't even had a chance to try your
> solution. I will file it for future reference.

Might not work in the future ;(  Seems Mdk Linux is bound and 
determined to make sure icons clutter up my desktop. After an install, 
I usually delete 'em all.  Never could see any point for havin 'em 
since everythings available from the menu.

   So FWIW, if you're like minded, to only way I've found to get rid of 
the damn Trashcan is to move it with Control Center | Look'n Feel | 
Desktop | Paths (tab), and change the location to my /home dir rather 
than ../Desktop/...9.0 introduces a "Removable Media" icon.  What 
worked for your Zip icon will work for that one too ;)

> I had been doing a lot of mucking about to get my  harddrive, floppy,
> zip,and cdrom icons to appear as miniature representations vice blue
> folders when placed as links in a child panel of the kicker. I also
> have a quick browse folder of the /mnt directory but the devices will
> only show up as blue folders.

Try runnin 'update-menus -n' as root from a terminal.  Just a guess,
I haven't seen this behavior.   and I use the 'slick' icons package 
rather than KDE's.   Caution, I don't remember when the -n option came 
about, and it's undocumented, might not work for you.  If so, just use 
'update-menus', but do it as root, not user.

> That's OK though. It was just that irratating reappearing  zip icon
> that was driving me crazy.

We're here to try'n help ;)
>
> Sincerely,
> Chris Edwards
>
> Tom Brinkman wrote:
> >On Monday September 23 2002 07:59 am, Chris Edwards wrote:
> >>Would anyone know why an icon for my Zip drive continues to
> >> reappear on my desktop every time I boot into Linux (Mandrake
> >> 8.1)?
> >
> >Try this.  In your home//Desktop directory, delete the Zip
> >drive icon and any similar hidden file. Use Konqueror and on the
> >Toolbar, enable View | Show hidden files. Then log out of KDE making
> >sure you've got your desktop like you want it, and "Save session for
> >future logons ..." checked. On subsequent log-out's, leave this
> >unchecked.  Should get rid of that icon.

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Re: [newbie] Quake3A and SBLive! 5.1

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Sunday 22 September 2002 10:51 pm, you wrote:
> Hardware:
> CPU = AMD Athlon 1GHz
> MB = Soltek SL-75KAV
> RAM = 1024 MB
> VIDEO = GeForce2 64MB GTS Pro
> SOUND = SB Live! 5.1
>
> A few months back I was dual booting with RedHat 7.3 and could play Quake
> III Arena no problem there but trying to play it in Mandrake Cooker (up to
> 9.0) always resulted in this error message (following other
> initializations) when starting the game from a terminal:
>
> --- sound initialization ---
> 
> Received signal 11, exiting...

Hi Sharrea.

I had this same problem. I installed the full (Loki purchase) version of Q3 
and got the same sound error you did. I had to downloand a point release from 
the ID Software web site. This fixed it. To see if it is a problem with your 
sound drivers, you can start the game with no sound, like this:

quake3 +set s_initsound 0

If it does run with no sound - then it is a sound driver issue.

For more info go to:

http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/

and here is where you can d/l the actual file you need:

ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake3/linux/

Beware, it is a 30+ meg file!

Hope this helps ya get back to fraggin'... :-)

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Re: [newbie] Printing from the net

[Erik]

Marcia and Anne:

I may have missed it, but I haven't seen info on how the printer was set 
up originally?  Did you set it up to use CUPS, Post Script or both in 
LM8.2?  When I see HP, I immediately think "Post Script", but I'm not 
that familiar with them in Linux...in Windows they can be a real PITA.

When I set up my Epson 740 USB, I set it up in CUPS as Printer 
(printer0) and in Post Script as Printer1.  Now, the only problems I 
have printing from the net or email is when someone includes emoticons 
  with those, I have to select all, copy and paste into OO, remove 
the emoticon(s) and then print.

HTH,
Erik



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> Anne Wilson wrote:
>
>> On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 5:28 pm, you wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> Printing works fine on my LM8.2 with my HP 940c deskjet printer (USB)
>>> except when I try to print from the net, email, or xpdf. It works in 
>>> all
>>> of the other applications I believe. Any help will be appreciated.
>>>
>> Can't answer this, but I can add a bit that might spark inspiration 
>> in someone more knowledgeable.  My printer is a DJ 990, so should be 
>> identical to yours (940 is, I believe somewhat slower and without the 
>> duplexer, but otherwise identical).  I have printing from a browser, 
>> but no control.
>>
>> Printing from every browser I have tried does not allow me access to 
>> any of my setup printers.  It specifies PostScript/Default, shows a 
>> dropdown box, but that has no other entries in.  This seems to be the 
>> setting for the default printer, without any possibility of changing 
>> any properties/settings.
>>
>> Hope someone can use this to come up with an answer for you
>>
>> Anne
>>
>>
>> 
>>
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> Dear Anne,
>
> Thank you for this added info. Mine does the same thing from browsers, 
> but does not print. I am sure there has to be a simple solution. Thanks.
>
> Marcia
>
>
>
>
>
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[newbie] TuxRacer frame rate problem.

[Gary Traffanstedt]

I'm using Mandrake 9.0 RC2 and when I try to play TuxRacer, using an Nvidia 
GeForce 2 card, the low frame rate makes the game nearly unplayable. I've 
played the game before, about a year ago on a different machine and the frame 
rate was great. I'm using a dual Atlon MP system with 512 megs of memory so 
it's most likely not an issue with the speed of my machine or a lack of 
memory. Has anyone else experienced this problem and is there an easy 
solution?

-Gary



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Re: [newbie] Constant computer crashes

[Gary Traffanstedt]

I had this same problem on two machines running dual Athlon MP's. Earlier 
versions of Mandrake and other distros would lock up a lot. Some distros and 
versions would not even install. One thing that I tried was swapping the 
processors so that the voltage leveled out. I had read somewhere that there 
is a problem sometimes when running dual MP's where the voltage will be 
different to each processor. This helped a bunch on one system.
Secondly, installing Mandrake 9.0 and using the default graphics drivers have 
caused no lockups. I have tried Nvidia's drivers and have had problems but 
maybe I was just setting that up wrong. But MDK 9 RC2 default everything 
(kernel, drivers, etc) has worked great for me.

-Gary

On Monday 23 September 2002 06:55 am, Tom Brinkman scribbled something about:
> On Sunday September 22 2002 01:09 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:37:15 -0500
> >
> > Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >For more on the AMD/AGP issue see,
> > > http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Linux/35/175/7626960/
> > >Note: "There *is* an Athlon/AGP issue.  This issue has
> > > *not* been tied to a bug with the Athlon/Duron processors."
> > > ...and...
> > > "Our conclusion is that the operating system is creating coherency
> > > problems within the system by creating cacheable translation to AGP
> > > GART-mapped physical memory."
> >
> > This is the same AGP 'bug' for which AMD issued a Win2k patch and
> > this 'bug' exists in the
> > Linux 2.4 kernel series unless the kernel has been built for Athlon
> > optimization.
> > I may be be mistaken but do you not build your kernel, Tom?
>
>   Yes, currently 2.4.19-16k7.  I only edit Mdk's default .config
> file and comment out i585 and enable k7, compile as usual. I had no
> idea this was a work-around for the AGP issue tho.
>   Thanks for the info ;)
>
> > At any rate there are numerous threads on the kernel mailing list
> > regarding this issue when AGP is used and the always recommended
> > solution is to use mem=nopentium.
> >
> > In support of my position see:
> >
> > http://www.kickassgear.com/athlon-linux%20bug.htm
>
> Interesting, but it directly contradicts the statement made by 'Sean
> Cleveland and Wayne Meritsky of AMD' (the kernel ML link I gave). I can
> see why AMD could release a patch for W2k, even tho the bug isn't in
> their cpu's.  Also, I believe the Linux 2.4 kernel has been patched
> too, for quite some time now.  IIRC, shortly after Mdk 8.0 was
> released.
>
> > If others are desired just do a google-linux search for
> > mem=nopentium.
>
>   That's where I got the kernel ML link ;)  BTW, your link is just a
> hardware (overclockers) webpage, and is just the authors opinion. ie,
> "Here are the details.", but then doesn't say where he got 'em.
>
> > I currently use mem=nopentium on my systems and can confirm that
> > without this option random X lock-ups will occur if using the Nvidia
> > driver, and on systems with the ATI Rage128 using either the ati or
> > r128 driver if DRI is used.
> >
> > Even should men=nopentium be only a placebo I'll still take my
> > medicine.
> >
> >
> > Charles
>
> Well, besides compiling for Athlon, I don't use nVidia's closed
> source drivers either.  One or both are probly why I don't need the
> nopentium parameter, and don't experience lockups.
>
> Hardware problems, eg, mobo/PSU, ram, overheating are the most often
> causes of random lock-ups, spontaneous reboots.  Those areas should get
> a real hard close look before tryin bandaids IMO. 'Course, as I infer
> from your experience, if lock-ups stopped, then the nopentium option is
> probly needed, either for your hardware or to rectify a bug in the
> video drivers you're usin.  ...and as you seem to say, probly doesn't
> hurt.




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[newbie] Re: monitor flickering problem

[rhp.mac]

--
>De: "rhp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Asunto: monitor flickering problem
>Fecha: lun., 23 sept 2002 15:21
>

> hei people,
>
> my monitor blinking all time.
> I need to configure XWindows.  I am running Mandrake, I don't
> know how it is done.
>
> I am using:
>
> mandrake linux ppc 8.2
>
> kernel version 2.4 18.6.1
>
> monitor Imac/powerpc-640x480
>
> I run KDE version 2.2.2
>
> thanks for help
>
>
> rhp



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Re: [newbie] Constant computer crashes

[Tom Brinkman]

On Monday September 23 2002 11:30 am, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:55:48 -0500
>
> Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Interesting, but it directly contradicts the statement made by
> > 'Sean
> > Cleveland and Wayne Meritsky of AMD' (the kernel ML link I gave). I
> > can see why AMD could release a patch for W2k, even tho the bug
> > isn't in their cpu's.  Also, I believe the Linux 2.4 kernel has
> > been patched
> >
> > too, for quite some time now.  IIRC, shortly after Mdk 8.0 was
> > released.
>
> Doing a little more digging today I was able to find a more detailed
> explanation.
> Unfortunately it gives credence to your view rather than to mine.
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=102376926732464&w=2
>
> It is from June of his year and very interesting.
>
> At any rate for whatever reason the nopentium append does work for X
> stability on my systems.
> BTW all my hardware is from the AMD approved lists and the power
> supplies are all in excess specs.
>
>
> Charles

Try without nopentium, but set the aperature to 4 in bios? Still 
lock-up?  IE, (from your link), "The kernel bug is often exposed in 
conjunction with use of the AGP Aperture on these platforms."  Which is 
why I suggested a 4mb aperature in my earlier post.  Then try again 
with the open source drivers.  BTW, the AGP Aperature set to 4 is an 
old overclockers trick when the PCI bus is way out'a spec due to raisin 
the FSB too high. Degrades video performance somewhat, but I wonder if 
'nopentium' doesn't also (?).

I've seen you mention you have a Soyo Dragon +, an AMD apprv'd 
board. What aggravates the AGP issue, any OS, is PSU's. Specially with 
high performance AGP video cards from nVidia or ATI. Watt's, advertised 
specs aren't the important PSU specs. Manufacturer is, particularly 
model no., as they're marketed under several brand names (eg, I've got 
a Powerman 300w PSU in an Inwin case, but the model no. reveals it's 
made by Sparkle, and is an AMD appr'vd PSU model). IOW's, all 300+ watt 
PSU's vary in 'cleaness', stability of power.  AMD takes the effort to 
figure out suitable ones, Intel does also. 

I'm curious tho why a kernel bandaid (nopentium) would fix a problem 
that was reported as fixed in recent kernels (for the last year), or 
stems from marginal hardware, and/or wattage hoggin AGP cards. I still 
suspect the video drivers are involved, specially the popular closed 
source proprietary ones.  IOW's I still believe the AGP problem might 
be user (choices, ie, driver) and hardware centric.
-- 
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Re: [newbie] newbie kernel install=fun is starting!

[Angus Auld]

I now have my new kernel...and sources too! Thanks everyone.

I used urpmi, instead of rpm, to do the install. Worked like a charm. Thanks Tom! 
Us newbies need lots of help and advice.this is a great place to get it! I would 
be stumped big time if it weren't for these forums.

Oh, by the way, I checked on the package in SM, and it is showing it in an installed 
state of 144+megs. I guess that is the expanded installed size. SM makes things sound 
much worse for us dialup users than is necessary ;-)

All the best!

Now, to build a src rpm.


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Re: [newbie] Kernel Panic on boot from Install CD on Athlon

[et]

do you have "shared video memory" with an onboard video card? if so you will 
need to hit "f1" instead of "enter" when first prompted to hit enter to 
install or upgrade. you will then need to tell the installer how much memory 
it can use without effecting the video memory, like this (without the quotes) 
"linux mem=xxxM" where xxx is changed to equal the amount of ram availabel to 
the system after subtracting for video ram. so if I had 128 meg ram, but had 
shared 16 megs with the video, I would type  "linux mem=112M" 


On Monday 23 September 2002 01:20 pm, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to install Mandrake8.2 on my new
> Athlon(XP1800+) box from the installation CDs
> (downloaded from one of the mirrors).
> The installer interface comes up and when i choose to
> install, it fails and issue a kernel panic.
> The following are the first few error msgs:
>
> vesafb:frame buffer  
> vesafb:mode is 800X600X16; line length = 1600; pages 3
> vesafb:protected mode interface at c000:c590
>
> I would like to know what is the problem and how i can
> get around it.
> I had the same problem when i tried to install
> redhat7.2
>
> Other info.
> has win2k running( planning to make a dual boot
> machine)
>
> Thanks
> Ravi
>
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Re: [newbie] Reoocuring Desktop Zip Icon

[Chris Edwards]

Mr. Brinkman,

Thank you for your suggestion. For whatever reason, the icon is no 
longer appearing ... and I haven't even had a chance to try your 
solution. I will file it for future reference.

I had been doing a lot of mucking about to get my  harddrive, floppy, 
zip,and cdrom icons to appear as miniature representations vice blue 
folders when placed as links in a child panel of the kicker. I also have 
a quick browse folder of the /mnt directory but the devices will only 
show up as blue folders.

That's OK though. It was just that irratating reappearing  zip icon that 
was driving me crazy.

Sincerely,
Chris Edwards

Tom Brinkman wrote:

>On Monday September 23 2002 07:59 am, Chris Edwards wrote:
>  
>
>>Would anyone know why an icon for my Zip drive continues to reappear
>>on my desktop every time I boot into Linux (Mandrake 8.1)? 
>>
>Try this.  In your home//Desktop directory, delete the Zip 
>drive icon and any similar hidden file. Use Konqueror and on the 
>Toolbar, enable View | Show hidden files. Then log out of KDE making 
>sure you've got your desktop like you want it, and "Save session for 
>future logons ..." checked. On subsequent log-out's, leave this 
>unchecked.  Should get rid of that icon.
>
>  
>
>
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Re: [newbie] Printing from the net

[Marcia]

Anne Wilson wrote:

>On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 5:28 pm, you wrote:
>
>>Dear All,
>>
>>Printing works fine on my LM8.2 with my HP 940c deskjet printer (USB)
>>except when I try to print from the net, email, or xpdf. It works in all
>>of the other applications I believe. Any help will be appreciated.
>>
>Can't answer this, but I can add a bit that might spark inspiration in 
>someone more knowledgeable.  My printer is a DJ 990, so should be identical 
>to yours (940 is, I believe somewhat slower and without the duplexer, but 
>otherwise identical).  I have printing from a browser, but no control.
>
>Printing from every browser I have tried does not allow me access to any of 
>my setup printers.  It specifies PostScript/Default, shows a dropdown box, 
>but that has no other entries in.  This seems to be the setting for the 
>default printer, without any possibility of changing any properties/settings.
>
>Hope someone can use this to come up with an answer for you
>
>Anne
>
>
>
>
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Dear Anne,

Thank you for this added info. Mine does the same thing from browsers, 
but does not print. I am sure there has to be a simple solution. Thanks.

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[newbie] Kernel Panic on boot from Install CD on Athlon

[ravi r]

Hi,

I am trying to install Mandrake8.2 on my new
Athlon(XP1800+) box from the installation CDs
(downloaded from one of the mirrors). 
The installer interface comes up and when i choose to
install, it fails and issue a kernel panic. 
The following are the first few error msgs:

vesafb:frame buffer  
vesafb:mode is 800X600X16; line length = 1600; pages 3
vesafb:protected mode interface at c000:c590

I would like to know what is the problem and how i can
get around it. 
I had the same problem when i tried to install
redhat7.2

Other info.
has win2k running( planning to make a dual boot
machine)

Thanks
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Re: [newbie] newbie kernel install=fun is starting!

[Charlie M.]

On Monday 23 September 2002 9:05 am, Angus Auld wrote:
> Greetings...this newbie has just installed his first kernel!
> YESSS!  8-)
>
> Thanks to those who gave me help and encouragement. Thanks Charlie, et. al.
>
> I am having fun on my 2.4.18.8.1, but the only 'prob' I seem to have
> encountered is the kernel-sources package that I tried to install at the
> same time as the kernel don't seem to want to install. I don't get any
> errors when I try to install, just no install.
>
> I am wondering also why the kernel-sources package that Software Manager
> shows for the 2.4.18.8.1 kernel is 137.91megs, but when I go to
> ftp.sunet.se (which is my update mirror) it shows the package as only
> 33.57megs. What gives here?? I dld'd and tried to install the smaller of
> the two. ;-)
>
> Can anyone explain this to me and help me get my kernel-sources? I really
> wanted to get the sources so I can rebuild rpm's from src.
>
> Many TIA's.
>
>
> --Angus
Wasn't that fun? :-)

Have a look in /usr/src and see what's in there. Two easy ways to do this; the 
quick browser from the "K" menu (if you use KDE) will display if there's any 
directories at that location or you can do ls /usr/src  in a terminal. 
It's where the source should have gone on install. If it's not there someone 
can almost certainly help you figure out why the devil not.

BTW I just checked and the kernel-source-2.4.18-8.1 rpm in the update 
directory at sunet shows as 32.8 MB when I check it. I also looked through 
the SRPMS and the RPMS directories and I can't find anything bigger than that 
for an 8.2 kernel. In other words I haven't a flippin' clue why it shows as 
the size shown unless the software manager is reading the size of a 
decompressed file maybe. Anything is possible I suppose. The 137 MB sounds 
about right for the package to be honest, so since you didn't have source 
installed before let the software manager deal. There's nothing installed to 
break, is there?

I told you I was a gnubie, didn't I? ;-)
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Re: [newbie] for suggestion

[qhwang]

Thank you. I will check your website. My model is Presario 2800. What's your
suggestion?

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Re: [newbie] CDRW & DVD Recommendation

[Jim Dawson]

I have a Sony CD-RW drive and a 'generic' DVD drive (I think it is a 'HI-VAL' or 
something like that.) and both work great.

Most IDE CD/CDRW/DVD/etc drives are fully ATAPI compliant and should work find. The 
CDRECORD web site maintains a list of drives that are known not to work with cd 
record, but it's a pretty short list and most of the drives listed are old and out of 
production.

The Cdrecord web site is: 
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdrecord.html

The unsupported drive list is:
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdr-unsup-1.10.html

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:36:50 +1000
Subject: [newbie] CDRW & DVD Recommendation

I am thinking of buying and installing a CDRW and DVD player, anyone want to
recommend a brand, something which is easily recognised by Mandrake 8.2 and
people have installed themselves

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Re: [newbie] for suggestion

[Michael Notforyou]

Your main problem is gonna be that Compaq laptop. What's the model
number? Any 700 series, check my Website in my signature.


On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 06:26, qhwang wrote:
> Hi There,
> 
> I bought a Compaq laptop recently and I plan to install Mandrake on it. Is there 
>anyone has experience about installing Mandrake with a pre-installed Windows XP 
>system? Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> 
> Wishes,
> 
> 
> QingHua.
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[Fwd: Re: [newbie] File conversion]

[John Richard Smith]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [newbie] File conversion
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:34:53 +0100
From: John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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Todd Slater wrote:

>>John Richard Smith saith:
>>
>>
>>
>>>For reasons I need not go into, I transfer *.JPG files across from
>>>Windblows to Mandrake and work on them in gimp,and
>>>when I'm finished I have a montage of prints I wish to assemble
>>>as a composite.
>>>
>>>I've hit a snag.
>>>
>>>Winblows names it's files in higher case.
>>>Montage(the programme, part of image magic) seems only willing
>>>to work with lowercase named files. There are too many to manually
>>>retype.
>>>
>>>How can I convert windblows named *.JPG files to *.jpg named
>>>files on the command line ?
>>>
>>>John
>>>  
>>>
>
>John,
>
>montage will work with names with caps. If you are doing a directory, just
>use *.JPG instead of *.jpg.
>
>Todd
>
>  
>
Todd, You know what it was, it was too damned obvious.
John



But upon further consideration, and bearing in mind that
I will often want to mix and match file images from differing
sources it is best to convert all my source image files
to the same file format for ease of processing because
when it comes to it, the command line is going to get awfully
complicated if I have to start allowing for more than one
file format. So upon further consideration  it is best
while my current camera, epsilon1.3( a cheapie I can afford to
drop and break if necessary) is not supported in linux, even 
as a mass storage device, and I must resort to copying across 
from W2K, to get things organised by converting everything 
there and then to a single(lowercase ) standard.

So currently

cd direcory sources,in a shell, and this works,
for i in *
do
mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"
done

but ,
$ for i in *; do mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"; done
does not , it doesn't like the "do" bit in one line.

I haven't yet tried the perl bash script, would be nice to get that
to work.
John





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Re: [newbie] Gimp &HP 4300c scanner

[et]

Thank you, Marcia, I bet this will be a help for some time to come.

On Sunday 22 September 2002 07:29 pm, you wrote:
> et wrote:
> >On Sunday 22 September 2002 12:42 pm, you wrote:
> >>Dear All,
> >>
> >>I really do not know if there is a connection but since I got my scanner
> >>working I cannot get Gimp to open anymore. It starts to and stops at
> >>/usr/lib/gimp-1.2plugins/miff or something close to this.  The scanner
> >>works with the lib gimp plugin now , with xsane and with kooka. I am
> >>pleased about this since I had to apply the niash patch to the
> >>sane-backend as well as do some configuration to get my unsupported
> >>HP4300c scanjet (USB) working. Does anyone know how I can get the gimp
> >>to work again?
> >>
> >>Thanks for the help.
> >>
> >>Marcia
> >
> >I bet everyone would love to hear how you got the scanner to work, and
> > maybe someone in the future will read the archives and be able to get
> > their scanner working too... so... how did you do it?
>
> First of all my Gimp opens just fine now. It seemed to resolve itself.
> Thank you all for your help.
>
> To get my HP 4300c to work:
>
> I got the testtool which contains the patch script for the sane-backend
> from http://sourceforge.net/projects/hp3300backend/. On this page you
> can find the forum which provided most of the help for me.
>
> Here is my account of how I got my HP 4300c usb scanner to work.  To
> patch SANE do the following:
>
> 1) Download and unpack the testtool and sane-backends source packages
> 2) Copy to usr/local/src
> 2) install libusb:
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/libusb/libusb-0.1.5.tar.gz
>  usb.h comes from libusb0.1.5, make sure you uninstalled libusb0.1.4
> with no deps. Then do any make uninstall of libusb0.15, and the
> ./configure , make, su to root and make install.
>  YOU WILL need to run ./configure | make | make install again on
> sane-backends-1.0.8 AFTER reinstalling libusb-0.1.5 !
> 3) Unpacking the testtool package is done by:
> tar -xzvf testtool-20020816_1.tar.gz
> which creates a directory 'testtool' with some files in it, including
> the readme. Run make in the testtool directory.
> 4) Go to the testtool directory and patch sane-backends:
> ./patch-sane.sh ~/sane-backend-1.0.8
>  the patch script should be run with the path to the sane-backends
> sources as an argument.
> In my case it was:
> ./patch-sane.sh /usr/local/src/sane-backends-1.0.8
> (substitute the proper sane-backend directory)
> 5) Go to the sane-backend directory and build sane-backends:
> ./configure
> make
> make install
>
> It is  suggested to first try the testtool before trying to make SANE work.
>
> In addition to the directions above,  I  copied some of the niash
> specific binaries to a directory belonging to an already installed sane
> rpm. Then I added niash to the dll.conf file and ran ldconfig. This way
> I did not have to uninstall the sane that was already setup.
>
> Here are the steps for this below:
>
> 1) copied backend/.libs/libsane-niash.so.1.0.8 to /usr/lib/sane
> 2) made some symlinks in /usr/lib/sane named libsane-niash.so.1 and
> libsane-niash.so pointing to the file just copied.
> 3) added niash to /etc/sane.d/dll.conf
> 4) ran ldconfig
> 5) changed /dev/usbscanner in niash.conf to /dev/usb/scanner0- if
> your device is a different name then you would use that name instead of
> /dev/usb/scanner0.
>
> I hope this is complete. There is alot of help from sourceforge and
> other instructions if you want to install another method. The author of
> testtool promptly answered my questions in the forum. This testtool also
> works for HP 3300c, HP 3400c, and the Agfa Touch. The one problem I am
> still having is my image is stretched which the author told me is
> supposed to be fixed so I am waiting for an answer about this right now.
> If anyone gets their HP scanner running and does not have a stretched
> image please let me know. Otherwise I am very pleased to have it working
> so well.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Marcia



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[newbie] KNewsKicker

[Chris Edwards]

I am currently trying-out the KNewsKicker. However, when I click on a 
newsheadline nothing happens. I have explored the "File Associations" 
module in the Control Center but have not discovered a solution. How 
would one fix it so that URLs, when clicked, open in Opera?

More information can be supplied if needed.

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Re: [newbie] newbie rebuilding src rpm (how to get command prompt)

[Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas]

Em Seg 23 Set 2002 09:52, Angus Auld escreveu:

Hi there!

As fas as I know... it's not necessary to log out X to compile a kernel!

Any how, just edit the /etc/inittab file and change the line:

id:5:initdefault:

to

id:3:initdefault:

logout and you should be on prompt!

If you got **really** locked into X, after the modification... reboot!

To return to X, as before, just eidt that line from 3 (console/text mode) 
to 5 (graphic mode).

HTH,

Ricardo

> Greetings,
> I have a dumb question.how do I kill my X-session and get to a command
> prompt? I am running runlevel 5 by default, and I'm logged in to X
> automatically. I want to get out of X and to a text login so I can install
> a new kernel. When I ctrl>alt>backspace, I get my login box, and don't know
> how to get to a command prompt. I guess what I am needing is to know how to
> get to a runlevel 3, temporarily??
>
> That should be a dumb enough question for now. ;-)
> (Imagine ME trying to install a kernel.)
>
> TIA.
>
>
> --Angus
>
> "Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in
> awareness."--James Thurber
>
> Reg. Linux User #278931

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[newbie] newbie rebuilding src rpm (how to get command prompt)

[Angus Auld]

Greetings, 
I have a dumb question.how do I kill my X-session and get to a command prompt? I 
am running runlevel 5 by default, and I'm logged in to X automatically. 
I want to get out of X and to a text login so I can install a new kernel.
When I ctrl>alt>backspace, I get my login box, and don't know how to get to a command 
prompt. I guess what I am needing is to know how to get to a runlevel 3, temporarily??

That should be a dumb enough question for now. ;-)
(Imagine ME trying to install a kernel.)

TIA.


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Re: [newbie] Tar or zip?

[Anne Wilson]

On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 11:45 pm, you wrote:
> Try GnoZip or LnxZip, both of which are WinZip like applications on your
> installation disks.

Plenty of options, then :-)  I'll try at least one of them in the next day or 
two - I seem to be screamingly busy just now

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Re: [newbie] Printing from the net

[Anne Wilson]

On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 5:28 pm, you wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Printing works fine on my LM8.2 with my HP 940c deskjet printer (USB)
> except when I try to print from the net, email, or xpdf. It works in all
> of the other applications I believe. Any help will be appreciated.
>
Can't answer this, but I can add a bit that might spark inspiration in 
someone more knowledgeable.  My printer is a DJ 990, so should be identical 
to yours (940 is, I believe somewhat slower and without the duplexer, but 
otherwise identical).  I have printing from a browser, but no control.

Printing from every browser I have tried does not allow me access to any of 
my setup printers.  It specifies PostScript/Default, shows a dropdown box, 
but that has no other entries in.  This seems to be the setting for the 
default printer, without any possibility of changing any properties/settings.

Hope someone can use this to come up with an answer for you

Anne



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Re: [newbie] Sounds scarey to me

[Anne Wilson]

On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 10:30 pm, you wrote:
> On Monday 23 Sep 2002 7:08 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Having looked through the update disk I can see a number of things that I
> > would like to update, hoping that it would fix problems, but the whole
> > thing looks really scarey.
> >
> > I mean, if I break one app that's not too bad.  A little time lost, but
> > I'll soon be up and running (fingers crossed), but talking about updating
> > the kernel is a different cup of tea.  If I break that I've had it.  Just
> > how risky is this?  I presume it's necessary before doing any of the
> > rest?
>
> First, do NOT upgrade the kernel.  You must install the kernel - NOT
> upgrade it.  Just install the new kernel with
>
> # rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.x-x.i586.rpm
>
> Then check /etc/lilo.conf.  The new entry is usually added for you
> automagically - if not, then add it yourself making sure the entry includes
> the correct "vmlinuz" from the /boot dir.  Then run
>
> # /sbin/lilo
>
> Leave your old kernel installed until you are happy that your system is
> running fine with the new kernel.  Reboot and choose the new kernel from
> the boot menu.
>
> A newer kernel may or may not be necessary but usually if it is a
> dependency for any app a message will be given saying so.
>
> Installing kernels has been heavily discussed on this list in the past so a
> quick check of the archives may help.
>
> Sharrea

Thanks - that does sound a little better.

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Re: [newbie] File conversion

[John Richard Smith]

Todd Slater wrote:

>>John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith:
>>
>>
>>
>>>For reasons I need not go into, I transfer *.JPG files across from
>>>Windblows to Mandrake and work on them in gimp,and
>>>when I'm finished I have a montage of prints I wish to assemble
>>>as a composite.
>>>
>>>I've hit a snag.
>>>
>>>Winblows names it's files in higher case.
>>>Montage(the programme, part of image magic) seems only willing
>>>to work with lowercase named files. There are too many to manually
>>>retype.
>>>
>>>How can I convert windblows named *.JPG files to *.jpg named
>>>files on the command line ?
>>>
>>>John
>>>  
>>>
>
>John,
>
>montage will work with names with caps. If you are doing a directory, just
>use *.JPG instead of *.jpg.
>
>Todd
>
>  
>
Todd, You know what it was, it was too damned obvious.
John

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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice worry

[Anne Wilson]

On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 11:12 pm, you wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:23:52 +0100, Anne Wilson
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 4:30 pm, you wrote:
> > > On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 11:12:47 +0100, Anne Wilson
> > >
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > From time to time I have had problems with an OO save, causing a
> > > > spontaneous logout.  The worry is that sometimes the save has
> > > > completed OK before the logout, and sometimes the document is
> > > > corrupted, making it difficult if not impossible to resurrect the
> > > > data.
> > > >
> > > > For text documents I have laboriously opened them in a text editor
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > stripped out all control codes, saving the day, but I'm very
> > > > worried about the possibility of losing crucial spreadsheet data.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone else experienced this?  What did you do about it?
> > >
> > > I've never experienced those sorts of problems. Tell more about your
> > > instalation (this is standard for the download from OOorg:
> > > 1. Network install  (# ./setup -net)  to e.g. /opt/OOo101/
> > > 2. Workstation install ($ ./setup from /opt/OOo101/)
> > > to /home//OOo101
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Richard.
> > >
> > > > Anne
> >
> > This is going to sound really stupid:  I can only half-remember
> > installing it.
> >
> > I think it was from Mandrake's disk3.  It's a user install, into
> > usr/lib/openoffice, and the main files are dated 13/03/2002.  Much of
> > the time I have no problem, but just occasionally these crashes, which
> > always seem to happen just as I am saving a file.
> >
> > Anne
>
> Probably the best thing is to upgrade to OOo101. From the date, you're
> probably using one of the more 'beta' files than 101. Fixed quite a few
> bugs --think I remember the random Crash on Save was one of them.
>
> Richard.

Fair ehough - I think the update is on the Mandrake 'extra' disk

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Re: [newbie] File conversion

[Todd Slater]

> John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith:
> 
> > For reasons I need not go into, I transfer *.JPG files across from
> > Windblows to Mandrake and work on them in gimp,and
> > when I'm finished I have a montage of prints I wish to assemble
> > as a composite.
> > 
> > I've hit a snag.
> > 
> > Winblows names it's files in higher case.
> > Montage(the programme, part of image magic) seems only willing
> > to work with lowercase named files. There are too many to manually
> > retype.
> > 
> > How can I convert windblows named *.JPG files to *.jpg named
> > files on the command line ?
> > 
> > John

John,

montage will work with names with caps. If you are doing a directory, just
use *.JPG instead of *.jpg.

Todd


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Re: [newbie] S3 Virge DX/GX 375/385

[et]

On Sunday 22 September 2002 09:28 pm, you wrote:
> S3 Virge can be a nightmare on Windows systems.  The company that
> produced them is out of business.  There are still drivers archived,
> although choosing the correct one must be done carefully.  You probably
> will be o.k. updating for Win98 or maybe even Win98 SE as long as you're
> using Win95 drivers (Win98 and SE were expensive bug fixes for Win95)
> ...  but I wouldn't try it (--from personal experience) on WinMe, Win2K
> or WinXP (these are listed for others who read this) because the
> available drivers either can't be installed successfully (windows
> doesn't recognize or use them) or they crash the card.
>
> Have you considered changing to a more mainstream card?
>
> Erik

I remeber in about 1996 or 7 (maybe 98) S3 had a program for resellers and 
repair centers that advertised that S3 would not question and would 
automatically give an RMA number and a new (equal memory, different chipset) 
videocard for any virge based card as an effort to be rid of this card. the 
flyer I saw about it came from a distributor (I think it was Merisol) that 
had the "headline" "help us purge the Virge". 



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[newbie] for suggestion

[qhwang]

Hi There,
 
I bought a Compaq laptop recently and I plan to 
install Mandrake on it. Is there anyone has experience about installing Mandrake 
with a pre-installed Windows XP system? Any suggestion will be greatly 
appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
Wishes,
 
 
QingHua.

Re: [newbie] File conversion

[John Richard Smith]

Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

>I've got two possible solutions. The first is a Perl script I found somewhere
>(attached) which is designed to change the case of filenames. The second is the
>'rename' command, which is part of the util-linux Mandrake package (type 'man
>rename' for details)
>
OK I think I unserstand.
Let me run my understanding past you.
If I copy the perl script below into a text file and place in somewhere
like /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin,
and then run some command to initiate it ,
 
Then CD to directory sources in a shell,
and type something ( ? )
this script could be run and hey presto,
all done.Yes ?

because if so this would be very handy.


>  
>
>
>
>eval 'exec perl $0 ${1+"$@"}'
>if 0;
># don't modify below here
>#-
>$ver = '1.2';
># chcase 1.2
># Changes case of filenames
># http://www.blemished.net/chcase.html
># [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>#
># 1.2 - June 22, 2000
>#  Added -n since escape characters don't work on all terminals
>#   Added -l to rename & follow symbolic links
>#   Allowed options to be put together eg: chcase -rdou ...
># 1.1 - Feb 29, 2000
>#   Added ability to supply perl expressions
># 1.0 - Jan 26, 2000
>#   Initial Release
>
>sub ERR {
>print "\nchcase $ver\n";
>if (shift) {
>print  
>
>>chcase My.DOC *.JPG FileName.txt
>>
>>
>  => these specific files are changed to lower case
>
>  
>
>>chcase -rd '*'
>>
>>
>  => all files and sub dirs to lower case, start in current dir, recurse
>
>  
>
>>chcase -s pics '*.jpg' '*.gif'
>>
>>
>  => rename .jpg and .gif files in pics dir to lower case
>
>  
>
>>chcase -rous /tmp/junk 'a??b*.txt'
>>
>>
>  => starting from /tmp/junk and recursing, change files matching this
> mask to all upper case, overwrite if file exists
>
>  
>
>>chcase -x 's/99dec/jan2000/' -x 's/ /_/g' '*.doc'
>>
>>
>  => renames *.doc files replacing 99dec with jan2000,
> and replacing all spaces with underscores
>
>  
>
>>chcase -x 'tr/a-zA-Z0-9.//cd' -x 's/jpg/jpg/i' '*'
>>
>>
>  => removes all non-alphanumeric characters except for '.' and
> changes the pattern "jpg" to lower case if it isn't already
>
>  
>
>>chcase -r
>>
>>
>  => displays directory structure
>EOT
>} else {
>printchcase [-erdouqnl] [-s ] [-x ''] ''
>
>   -e   : Print EXAMPLES - very helpful!
>   -r   : Rename recursively
>   -d   : Also rename subdirectories
>   -o   : Overwrite if file exists
>   -u   : Change to upper case (default is lower)
>   -q   : Quiet mode (no output)
>   -n   : No escape characters (for bold output)
>   -l   : Rename & follow symbolic links (default is not to)
>   -s  : Specify starting directory
>
>-x '' : Perl expression to operate on filename
>  usually s/// or tr///  (yes you need the quotes)
>  case of filename not changed when this option used
>  you can supply multiple expressions
>
>   '' : Mask to rename  (quotes are nice to have here)
>  not case sensitive, you can use multiple masks
> -or- just supply the filename(s) on the command line
>
>EOT
>}
>exit;
>}
>
>sub chcase {
> $_ = $old = shift;
> foreach $m (@mask) {
>   if (/^$m$/i) {
> if (@exp) { foreach $x (@exp) { eval $x; } }
> else { $_ = $upper ? uc : lc; }
> return($_) if (-d);
> return($_) if (!$overw && -f || ($old eq $_));
> $error = (rename($old, $_)) ? '' : "$bold -> cannot rename$unbold";
> if (-d) { print @h, "$bold$old/  =>  $_$unbold\n" unless $quiet; }
> else { print @h, "$old  =>  $_$error\n" unless $quiet; }
>   }
> }
> return($_);
>}
>
>sub procdir {
> $_ = shift;
> chdir($_) || die "Couldn't chdir into $_\n$!";
> print @h, "$bold$_$unbold\n" unless $quiet;
> push @h, '|__ ';
> opendir(D,'.');
> foreach (readdir(D)) {
>   next if (($_ eq '.') || ($_ eq '..'));
>   next if (-l && !$links);
>   if (-d) {
> if ($rendir) { $_ = &chcase($_); next if $error; }
> if ($recur) { &procdir($_); chdir('..'); pop @h; }
>   } else { &chcase($_); }
> }
> closedir(D);
>}
>
>
>$bold   = "\033[01m";
>$unbold = "\033[0m";
>$dir = '.';
>
>&ERR unless @ARGV;
>while (@ARGV) {
> $_ = shift;
> if (/^-/) {
>   &ERR unless /^-[erdouqnlsx]+$/;
>   /e/ && &ERR(1);
>   /r/ && $recur++;
>   /d/ && $rendir++;
>   /o/ && $overw++;
>   /u/ && $upper++;
>   /q/ && $quiet++;
>   /n/ && ($bold=$unbold='');
>   /l/ && $links++;
>   /s/ && ($dir = shift) && ($dir =~ s/\/$//);
>   /x/ && (push @exp, shift);
> } else {
>   if (/(.*)\/([^\/]*)$/) { $dir = $1; $_ = $2; }
>   s/\\//g;
>   s/\./\\./g; s/\+/\\+/g; s/\[/\\[/g;
>   s/\]/\\]/g; s/\|/\\|/g; s/\^/\\^/g;
>   s/\*/\.\*/g; s/\?/\./g;
>   push @mask, $_;
> }
>}
>
>&procdir($dir);
>  
>
>
>  
>
John

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Re: [newbie] File conversion

[John Richard Smith]

Anuerin G. Diaz wrote:

>sorry, i copied it without checking first. here is the script that
>works..
>
>#-START
>#!/bin/bash
>
>for i in *
>do
>  mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"
>done
>
>echo "finished translating"
>#--END
>
>or the one-liner 
>
>   $ for i in *; do mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"; done.
>  
>
>>
>>
>
>  
>
Great things, it works, here is my effort,
# cd /mnt/ext2-vol6/downloads2/digitalcam/set00

set002]# !/bin/bash
bash: !/bin/bash: event not found
no, that's wrong, lets try,

set002]# for i in *
> do
>   mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"
> done
set002]#

one slight question though,in your example:-
for i in *
do
mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`",
this is how it came to me,

can this be one line , something like this,
for i in *  mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`",

I've run out of files to test it on for now.
very useful command I shall keep this one.

John


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RE: [newbie] File conversion

[Franki]

rename is also a supported method in perl as well... so
instead of using system() in perl scripts, you can just use rename.


rgds

Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan
Sent: Monday, 23 September 2002 4:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] File conversion


I've got two possible solutions. The first is a Perl script I found
somewhere
(attached) which is designed to change the case of filenames. The second is
the
'rename' command, which is part of the util-linux Mandrake package (type
'man
rename' for details).

On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:52:44 +0100, "Tony S. Sykes"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> It works fine on my 8.2, try using `ls` instead of * (Use the single
> quote from the key next to the one).
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:16 AM
> To: Anuerin G. Diaz; NEWBIE 1
> Subject: Re: [newbie] File conversion
>
>
> Anuerin G. Diaz wrote:
>
> >hi john,
> >
> >  sorry for replying direct but i cant post to the list. ;-)
> >
> >  here is one post from the local LUG here in the Philippines which
> >seems to be what you want...
> >
> >[quote]
> >Because FAT is not case sensitive and most, if not all, UNIX
> filesystems
> >are. A short script I got from a list of tips as a newbie might help:
> >
> >$ for i in *; do mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"; done;
> >
> >This renames every file in the current directory to all lowercase
> >filenames. I've added double-quotes around the back-ticked "converter"
> >to allow it to handle filenames with embedded spaces as well.
> >[/quote]
> >
> >ciao!
> >
> >John Richard Smith wrote:
> >
> >
> >>For reasons I need not go into, I transfer *.JPG files across from
> >>Windblows to Mandrake and work on them in gimp,and
> >>when I'm finished I have a montage of prints I wish to assemble
> >>as a composite.
> >>
> >>I've hit a snag.
> >>
> >>Winblows names it's files in higher case.
> >>Montage(the programme, part of image magic) seems only willing
> >>to work with lowercase named files. There are too many to manually
> >>retype.
> >>
> >>How can I convert windblows named *.JPG files to *.jpg named
> >>files on the command line ?
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> Here is some of my first efforts,
> ]# cd /mnt/ext2-vol6/downloads2/digitalcam/set002
>
> set002]# $ for i in *; do mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"; done;
> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
>
> set002]# $ for i in *; do mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`";
> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
>
> set002]# $ for i in *; mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"; done;bash:
> syntax error near unexpected token `;'
>
> set002]# $ for i in * do mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"; done;
> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
>
>
> As a bash script newbie I'm obviously doing something
> quite wrong here. Any idea what it is, as I think this
> will work when I learn how to prpoperly execute it.
> Incidentally, I note there is a pipe so it's a two
> part operation inwhich the standard output of the first part is fed
> directly into the standard input of the second
> element.
> John

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Re: [newbie] galeon and opera

[Derek Jennings]

On Monday 23 Sep 2002 2:20 am, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> I would like to get opinion about the relative qualities of galeon 1.0.3
> and opera 6 regarding speed etc.

 They are both great browsers. Galeon is generally considered to be faster 
than Mozilla, but IMO Opera is faster even than Galeon, and  has a smaller 
memory footprint and will work better in low end machines.
(This is just my opinion remember)

However..  They both have their limitations. Galeon is possibly better at 
rendering pages with 'Internet Explorer' javascript on them. But on the other 
hand recent builds of Galeon (I am using 1.2.5) have been a little unstable 
and seem to crash a lot.

It really comes down to which browser suits you best since their speed is 
similar.
At the moment I think Opera's feature set is still better (just) . I like the

 'mouse gestures' (galeon has them too but they do not work as well),
'tabbed windows'(Galeon has tabbed windows too, but they have to be all the 
same size)

BTW: You mention galeon 1.03  That is a bit out of date, and I do not think it 
has either of these features.

derek





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Re: [newbie] File conversion

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

I've got two possible solutions. The first is a Perl script I found somewhere
(attached) which is designed to change the case of filenames. The second is the
'rename' command, which is part of the util-linux Mandrake package (type 'man
rename' for details).

On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:52:44 +0100, "Tony S. Sykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> It works fine on my 8.2, try using `ls` instead of * (Use the single
> quote from the key next to the one).
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:16 AM
> To: Anuerin G. Diaz; NEWBIE 1
> Subject: Re: [newbie] File conversion
> 
> 
> Anuerin G. Diaz wrote:
> 
> >hi john,
> >
> >  sorry for replying direct but i cant post to the list. ;-)
> >
> >  here is one post from the local LUG here in the Philippines which
> >seems to be what you want...
> >
> >[quote]
> >Because FAT is not case sensitive and most, if not all, UNIX
> filesystems
> >are. A short script I got from a list of tips as a newbie might help:
> >
> >$ for i in *; do mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"; done;
> >
> >This renames every file in the current directory to all lowercase
> >filenames. I've added double-quotes around the back-ticked "converter"
> >to allow it to handle filenames with embedded spaces as well.
> >[/quote]
> >
> >ciao!
> >
> >John Richard Smith wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>For reasons I need not go into, I transfer *.JPG files across from
> >>Windblows to Mandrake and work on them in gimp,and
> >>when I'm finished I have a montage of prints I wish to assemble
> >>as a composite.
> >>
> >>I've hit a snag.
> >>
> >>Winblows names it's files in higher case.
> >>Montage(the programme, part of image magic) seems only willing
> >>to work with lowercase named files. There are too many to manually
> >>retype.
> >>
> >>How can I convert windblows named *.JPG files to *.jpg named
> >>files on the command line ?
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >  
> >
> Here is some of my first efforts,
> ]# cd /mnt/ext2-vol6/downloads2/digitalcam/set002
> 
> set002]# $ for i in *; do mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"; done;
> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
> 
> set002]# $ for i in *; do mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`";
> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
> 
> set002]# $ for i in *; mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"; done;bash:
> syntax error near unexpected token `;'
> 
> set002]# $ for i in * do mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"; done;
> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
> 
> 
> As a bash script newbie I'm obviously doing something
> quite wrong here. Any idea what it is, as I think this
> will work when I learn how to prpoperly execute it.
> Incidentally, I note there is a pipe so it's a two
> part operation inwhich the standard output of the first part is fed
> directly into the standard input of the second
> element.
> John

-- 
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 "We like to think of ourselves as the Microsoft of the energy world"
-- Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron


eval 'exec perl $0 ${1+"$@"}'
if 0;
# don't modify below here
#-
$ver = '1.2';
# chcase 1.2
# Changes case of filenames
# http://www.blemished.net/chcase.html
# [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
# 1.2 - June 22, 2000
#   Added -n since escape characters don't work on all terminals
#   Added -l to rename & follow symbolic links
#   Allowed options to be put together eg: chcase -rdou ...
# 1.1 - Feb 29, 2000
#   Added ability to supply perl expressions
# 1.0 - Jan 26, 2000
#   Initial Release

sub ERR {
print "\nchcase $ver\n";
if (shift) {
print< chcase My.DOC *.JPG FileName.txt
  => these specific files are changed to lower case

> chcase -rd '*'
  => all files and sub dirs to lower case, start in current dir, recurse

> chcase -s pics '*.jpg' '*.gif'
  => rename .jpg and .gif files in pics dir to lower case

> chcase -rous /tmp/junk 'a??b*.txt'
  => starting from /tmp/junk and recursing, change files matching this
 mask to all upper case, overwrite if file exists

> chcase -x 's/99dec/jan2000/' -x 's/ /_/g' '*.doc'
  => renames *.doc files replacing 99dec with jan2000,
 and replacing all spaces with underscores

> chcase -x 'tr/a-zA-Z0-9.//cd' -x 's/jpg/jpg/i' '*'
  => removes all non-alphanumeric characters except for '.' and
 changes the pattern "jpg" to lower case if it isn't already

> chcase -r
  => displays directory structure
EOT
} else {
print<] [-x ''] ''

   -e   : Print EXAMPLES - very helpful!
   -r   : Rename recursively
   -d   : Also rename subdirectories
   -o   : Overwrite if file exists
   -u   : Change to upper case (default is lower)
   -q   : Quiet mode (no output)
   -n   : No escape characters (for bold output)
   -l   : Rename & follow symbolic links (default is not to)
   -s  : Specify starting directory

-x '' : Perl expression to operate on filename
  usually s//

RE: [newbie] Tar or zip?

[Franki]

or you can just tar it,

winzip can open both tar, and tar.gz files just fine.


rgds

frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Derek Jennings
Sent: Monday, 23 September 2002 4:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Tar or zip?


On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 8:25 pm, Alastair Scott wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 20:05, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 7:54 pm, you wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 19:34, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > > I need to send a collection of fonts (about a dozen in all) to a
> > > > windows user.  I thought a zip file would be the easiest way., but
> > > > I'm not sure how to get a zip file in linux (Mdk 8.2).  I thought I
> > > > would temporarily copy the files into a separate directory so that I
> > > > can zip all the files in the directory.  Could someone please point
> > > > me at the way?  I think she has Winzip 8, so if I'm stuck, she could
> > > > probably unzip a tar file.
> > >
> > > The easiest way is to install zip. unzip is already installed but, for
> > > some inscrutable reason, unzip isn't (on 9.0RC3). So
> > >
> > > urpmi zip
> > >
> > > then
> > >
> > > zip .zip 
> > >
> > > will do the job.
> >
> > Do I take it, then, that (once I have installed zip), I use
> >
> > zip font.zip list_of_files_separated_by_spaces ?
>
> Yes.
>
> Alastair


Or for those who prefer GUIs
KDE Menu>Applications>Archiving>Compression>Ark
Select New  Pick file name with .zip extension

Drag and drop files into the window.

Naturally the zip RPM has to be installed for it to work.

If you prefer there is also Gnuzip.

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RE: [newbie] File conversion

[Tony S. Sykes]

It works fine on my 8.2, try using `ls` instead of * (Use the single
quote from the key next to the one).

-Original Message-
From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:16 AM
To: Anuerin G. Diaz; NEWBIE 1
Subject: Re: [newbie] File conversion


Anuerin G. Diaz wrote:

>hi john,
>
>  sorry for replying direct but i cant post to the list. ;-)
>
>  here is one post from the local LUG here in the Philippines which
>seems to be what you want...
>
>[quote]
>Because FAT is not case sensitive and most, if not all, UNIX
filesystems
>are. A short script I got from a list of tips as a newbie might help:
>
>$ for i in *; do mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"; done;
>
>This renames every file in the current directory to all lowercase
>filenames. I've added double-quotes around the back-ticked "converter"
>to allow it to handle filenames with embedded spaces as well.
>[/quote]
>
>ciao!
>
>John Richard Smith wrote:
>  
>
>>For reasons I need not go into, I transfer *.JPG files across from
>>Windblows to Mandrake and work on them in gimp,and
>>when I'm finished I have a montage of prints I wish to assemble
>>as a composite.
>>
>>I've hit a snag.
>>
>>Winblows names it's files in higher case.
>>Montage(the programme, part of image magic) seems only willing
>>to work with lowercase named files. There are too many to manually
>>retype.
>>
>>How can I convert windblows named *.JPG files to *.jpg named
>>files on the command line ?
>>
>>John
>>
>>
>>
>  
>
Here is some of my first efforts,
]# cd /mnt/ext2-vol6/downloads2/digitalcam/set002

set002]# $ for i in *; do mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"; done;
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'

set002]# $ for i in *; do mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`";
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'

set002]# $ for i in *; mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"; done;bash:
syntax error near unexpected token `;'

set002]# $ for i in * do mv "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr A-Z a-z`"; done;
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'


As a bash script newbie I'm obviously doing something
quite wrong here. Any idea what it is, as I think this
will work when I learn how to prpoperly execute it.
Incidentally, I note there is a pipe so it's a two
part operation inwhich the standard output of the first part is fed
directly into the standard input of the second
element.
John



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