Re: [newbie] hdparm?

[Derek Jennings]

On Wednesday 27 Nov 2002 8:26 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> I tried to remember how to use hdparm to examine drive settings.  I opened
> a root console, then typed hdparm - command not found.  I tried man hdparm
> - no manual entry for hdparm.
>
> Am I finally, totally over the top?  If that wasn't the command, what was?
>
> Anne

urpmi hdparm


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[newbie] MDK on Celeron?

[Kesav Tadimeti]

Hi all,
I am thinking of buying a Celeron 1.2GhZ with 8100C chipset.  Has anyone on
this list installed Linux successfully on this config?

Thanks in advance...

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[newbie] Kernels

[Barry Michels]

Is there any reason why someone would/should not run an older kernel?
I've got some gigabit ethernet  cards that only have drivers for 2.2.10.  I 
see that I have 2 choices (besides sending them back for something better): 
find a way to force them to work with 2.4.18 or downgrade to 2.2.10.

Also, is there any reason to try 2.5.x?


Barry


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Re: [newbie] 5 stars but ...

[Stephen Kuhn]

Just ran across this story - thought y'all would want to read it - or at
least have a glimpse of it - sorry I didn't find it any sooner - but ya
know, with all the stuff I read on a day to day basis, I can't really
always get to EVERYTHING nor remember EVERY URL for software that I
see...but hell, better late than never! Cheers!

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-11-26-017-26-NW-CY-MD

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Re: [newbie] Re: Missing PINE

[Dennis Myers]

On Thursday 28 November 2002 10:23 pm, SoloCDM wrote:
> On 28 Nov 2002, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > Date: 28 Nov 2002 16:58:09 +1100
> > From: Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Linux-Mandrake Newbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Missing PINE
> >
> > On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 12:11, SoloCDM wrote:
> > > Why isn't PINE in the Mandrake distribution?  I realize mutt is,
> > > but what takes the place of PINE?
> >
> > I had to find an RPM/tarball for it - the tarball, actually - and
> > installed it by myself instead of dealing with th MDK stuff...
>
> On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Anders Lind wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:07:41 +0100
> > From: Anders Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Missing PINE
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 07:23:21 +0100
> >
> > "Anders Lind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I think it should be on the CD's somewhere,
> >
> > I stand corrected I see, I know that Debian and Debian-based dists has
> > not included Pine or have had it in Non-Free, anyway just download it
> > from http://www.washington.edu/pine
>
> On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Len Lawrence wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 06:43:58 +
> > From: Len Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Missing PINE
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 18:11:43 -0700
> >
> > SoloCDM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Why isn't PINE in the Mandrake distribution?  I realize mutt is,
> > > but what takes the place of PINE?
> >
> > It is missing from Mandrake 9.0 because of licensing issues apparently.
> > I had used it for years, back before Linux, but have got used to Sylpheed
> > now. Don't know what you could use as a direct replacement but you could
> > try installing pine from an older distribution or even download the
> > latest version and agree to the licensing terms.
>
> On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Franki wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:41:58 +0800
> > From: Franki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Missing PINE
> >
> > wine isn't normal GPL license...
> >
> > so mandrake pulled it out..
> >
> > use rpmfind.net to look for a mandrake RPM.. someone always builds it..
> >
> > I have it on all my 9.0 boxes.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2002 9:12 AM
> > To: Linux-Mandrake Newbie
> > Subject: [newbie] Missing PINE
> >
> > Why isn't PINE in the Mandrake distribution?  I realize mutt is,
> > but what takes the place of PINE?
>
> It's very strange when some of the best programs are cut out of a
> "normal" Linux distribution, with more of them on the way!  I'm sure a
> semi-reasonable explanation would be present, but it isn't satisfactory
> when a distribution is sadly lacking good time honored quality
> programs.
If I recall there was discussion about this and it should still be in the 
archives. I believe that the maintainers of pine changed the license on it so 
it is no longer gpl, and thus Mandrakesoft did not include it in the d/l'd 3 
disk version, no none gpl'd software is in the free download, somebody 
correct me if I'm wrong, but that is most probable reason. ML just being true 
to their open source philosophy. HTH
-- 
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[newbie] Re: Missing PINE

[SoloCDM]

On 28 Nov 2002, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

> Date: 28 Nov 2002 16:58:09 +1100
> From: Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Linux-Mandrake Newbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Missing PINE
>
> On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 12:11, SoloCDM wrote:
>
> > Why isn't PINE in the Mandrake distribution?  I realize mutt is,
> > but what takes the place of PINE?
>
> I had to find an RPM/tarball for it - the tarball, actually - and
> installed it by myself instead of dealing with th MDK stuff...

On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Anders Lind wrote:

> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:07:41 +0100
> From: Anders Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Missing PINE
>
> On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 07:23:21 +0100
> "Anders Lind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I think it should be on the CD's somewhere,
>
> I stand corrected I see, I know that Debian and Debian-based dists has not included 
>Pine or have had it in Non-Free, anyway just download it from 
>http://www.washington.edu/pine

On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Len Lawrence wrote:

> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 06:43:58 +
> From: Len Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Missing PINE
>
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 18:11:43 -0700
> SoloCDM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Why isn't PINE in the Mandrake distribution?  I realize mutt is,
> > but what takes the place of PINE?
>
> It is missing from Mandrake 9.0 because of licensing issues apparently.
> I had used it for years, back before Linux, but have got used to Sylpheed now.
> Don't know what you could use as a direct replacement but you could try
> installing pine from an older distribution or even download the latest
> version and agree to the licensing terms.

On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Franki wrote:

> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:41:58 +0800
> From: Franki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Missing PINE
>
> wine isn't normal GPL license...
>
> so mandrake pulled it out..
>
> use rpmfind.net to look for a mandrake RPM.. someone always builds it..
>
> I have it on all my 9.0 boxes.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2002 9:12 AM
> To: Linux-Mandrake Newbie
> Subject: [newbie] Missing PINE
>
> Why isn't PINE in the Mandrake distribution?  I realize mutt is,
> but what takes the place of PINE?

It's very strange when some of the best programs are cut out of a
"normal" Linux distribution, with more of them on the way!  I'm sure a
semi-reasonable explanation would be present, but it isn't satisfactory
when a distribution is sadly lacking good time honored quality
programs.

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  list address and my email address in To:

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Re: [newbie] Symbolic links

[Erik Farnsworth]

This example is exactly the reason I didn't offer rm -f as an
option--when in root, it does it...period.  With rm the user is asked to
confirm the delete (and lists what will be deleted) before it is done. 
Good place for a newbie to make sure they are getting what they asked
for.

Erik



On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 18:37, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 04:53, John Richard Smith wrote:
> 
> > I did it this way,
> > 
> >  I cd into directory
> > 
> > then ,
> > #rm  libxyz  
> > 
> > it asked Yes or no,  Y 
> > 
> > it seems to remove it.
> > 
> > Am I right.
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > -- 
> > John Richard Smith
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> (Or, login as root, do a cd /, then type rm -rf * - that will certainly
> remove any and all symbolic links...)
> 
> JOKING - PLEASE DON'T DO THAT!
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: Re: [newbie] M8.2 with WinXP

[Erik Farnsworth]

On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Erik,
>Ok, i tried what u said. Downloaded AutoClave and ran it. Did 1 pass since i tot 
>that's enough. Reinstalled xp (NTFS). Later, resized it using PQMagic, having Fat32 
>and ext2. Booted into Mandrake setup.and Got the same problem!!! I feel it's 
>not the harddisk then. Bios perhaps?
>I also downloaded the clean up program from fujitsu(my harddisk manufacturer). 
>Ran it and did the same thing, got the same problem.
>If this goes on i'm going to sue Toshiba. ;)

Sean,

Once you had XP installed, did you boot into it to make sure it worked
o.k.before booting mandrake CD1?  I have only worked with Partition
Magic, not PQM, so I don't know if it messes up the mbr or not when
working with ntfs.  

Presuming that it booted and ran o.k. in XP, then the problem is
elsewhere.  

If it won't boot and run XP before you attempt the linux install, then
the problem may still lie in the way the partitions are set up (by PQM)
and now it writes the mbr after the partition change...or it may be the
XP install itself (errors in the CD burn, such as telling the software
to ignore errors so that it makes an exact duplicate of the original
with any/all intentional errors uncorrected).  Another problem could be
that the burn was 'bad' because it was burned at too fast a speed. 
Anything burned over 8X is suspect and anything burned at 4X is
compatible with more CD drives--IMO.

I'm sure there could be other reasons for the error to continue to
plague your install, but those are the two areas I have seen most often.

Reaching a little:

What OS did the machine have on it originally?  Presuming that the XP
install will boot, would it be possible for you to install the original
OS, make the necessary changes to the partitions for the dual boot that
you want--make sure the original OS boots-- then install mdk and make
sure it boots.  Once all this is done, upgrade to XP, boot it to make
sure it works, then boot to linux and set lilo or grub to give you the
option of booting either.



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Re: [newbie] really off topic -- Michigan Detroit

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 14:17, K. Spress wrote:
> I am looking at forming a LUG (Linux Users Group) for the Detroit Area.
> Anyone wanting information please call and e mail me.
> 
> 
> 
> Thankss
> Kenneth E. Spress
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> (586) 945-3801
> 
> You Finally Have A Choice In Local Telephone
> Service Ask Me How.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

Dang - if I still lived in Madison Hghts I'd make it a point to join
y'all..

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[newbie] really off topic -- Michigan Detroit

[K. Spress]

I am looking at forming a LUG (Linux Users Group) for the Detroit Area.
Anyone wanting information please call and e mail me.



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Re: [newbie] 5 stars but ...

[Terry Smith]

I have a nvidia geforce 2 mx200 card and got it running last night under
Mandrake 9.0. It was a bit more trouble than some of the other
distros...I had to hand edit the XF86Config file a bit. I could send you
a copy of my config file if you like.

The basic approach, which I'm sure you're familiar with, is to download
the nvidia drivers from their site. I would recommend the tarballs.
(presuming you have gcc et al. installed). I've used the 3123 drivers on
several installs. 

Just follow the instructions that nvidia provides in terms of unpacking
the tarballs 'make install' editing the XF86Config(-4) file, etc. 

I had some problems 'cuz I was tweaking the monitor section by hand,
using the tech specs for a Mag Innovision 771 that I just bought (now
$69 after rebate at BestBuy's - a steal) but It's working great now.

Another alternative, if you have the other distros running OK on your
card is to grab the "Devices" "Monitors" and "Screens" sections from the
XF86Config file that works and use it in your Mandrake
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file.

Terry Smith

On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 21:30, Rainer wrote:
> hello,
> 
> as a newbie to linux i have to agree that mandrake has been the easiest to
> configure and i would like to go back - as a matter of fact i'm in the
> process of downloading the 9.0 iso's.
> 
> my problem is with the nVidia drivers for the geforce2 mx/mx 400. it worked
> fine on mdk 8.1 (but it didn't support my audigy card). 8.2 froze constantly
> and i finally lost my xserver completely. trying to fix things on the
> command line only -  as a newbie isn't fun! red hat 8.0, suse liveval 8.1,
> debian 3.0, and slackware 8.1 all configure my graphics card so it works!
> they might be more difficult to use but at least i have the advantage of a
> gui which tends to simplify things.
> 
> so, my question is, does anyone have a relatively straightforward answer to
> this problem - nvidia geforce2 mx 400/400 card and mandrake. i've followed
> this mailing list and have read that this problem continues on 9.0. i really
> would like to give it one more shot.
> 
> thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] 5 Stars to Mandrake!

[Terry Smith]

I'm on the same page as you and Derek.

We use RH 7.3 at work (on the few workstations that run Linux, most run
Windows) 'cuz that's what is officially supported (although we are
slowly migrating our servers over to Linux..from Sun...we have about 300
users..in a heavy computing research setting).

RH 8.0 is a step backward, and I can get around pretty well in RH 7.3 at
this point so I'll continue to use it at work.

I still think gentoo, which is a 'roll your own' distribution, has some
real advantages...it's fast, compact, you can build a tight, secure
system..test all the latest software, etc. I'll prolly use it on a 'dmz'
box I'm trying to configure at home.

But, for general desktop use, multimedia, USB support, as well as
software support, Mandrake really has the edge.

Who knows, if I stay with Mandrake for a bit I may find I have a few
more hours on my hands to actually learn something about Linux
computing!

Terry Smith

On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 21:40, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 12:31, Derek Jennings wrote:
> > I totally agree Terry. 
> > After having used Mandrake for 18 months I thought had better check on other 
> > distros, just in case I was being blind to their merits.  Red Hat 8 's 
> > install went very nicely, and the fonts were great, but when I tried to 
> > actually 'do things' in it I found I missed all the little tools and 
> > facilities I took for granted with Mandrake. The package management for 
> > example is dreadful by comparison.
> > 
> > Libranet was nice, and the apt-get servers seem to be faster than the servers 
> > Mandrake use for urpmi, but there were no tools for setting anything up at 
> > all, and the menus contained entries for every darned utility installed!!
> > 
> > So I guess I will not be changing distros soon(Especially not after having 
> > just renewed Mandrake Club membership)
> > 
> > derek
> 
> I still think that RH 8 is like Gnome2 - unpolished, unfinished and
> pushed out to the public before it's time - RH 7.3, on the other hand,
> ain't all that bad...happier installing it on systems than anything else
> so far...guess I just got more familiar with it's idiosyncrasies and
> it's work-arounds and can get it up and running in a production
> environment quicker than the rest...
> 
> (BeOS was still hotter and faster, but those are bygone days)
>  
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> 
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Re: [newbie] 5 stars but ...

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 13:30, Rainer wrote:
> hello,
> 
> as a newbie to linux i have to agree that mandrake has been the easiest to
> configure and i would like to go back - as a matter of fact i'm in the
> process of downloading the 9.0 iso's.
> 
> my problem is with the nVidia drivers for the geforce2 mx/mx 400. it worked
> fine on mdk 8.1 (but it didn't support my audigy card). 8.2 froze constantly
> and i finally lost my xserver completely. trying to fix things on the
> command line only -  as a newbie isn't fun! red hat 8.0, suse liveval 8.1,
> debian 3.0, and slackware 8.1 all configure my graphics card so it works!
> they might be more difficult to use but at least i have the advantage of a
> gui which tends to simplify things.
> 
> so, my question is, does anyone have a relatively straightforward answer to
> this problem - nvidia geforce2 mx 400/400 card and mandrake. i've followed
> this mailing list and have read that this problem continues on 9.0. i really
> would like to give it one more shot.
> 
> thanks

There's support for the nVidia GeForce cards - as well, someone pointed
out that there's RPM's in the MandrakeClub Online as well...

Other than that, it's just a matter of a quick compile...

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Re: [newbie] North Arkansas Linux Users Group (somewhat off topic)

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 13:40, Marc wrote:
>I hope that this may be of some use to a few people on 
> this list. Here in North central Arkansas we have a new LUG 
> in Mountain Home Arkansas
>This is the URL for more details  
> http://sleve.port5.com/n/narlug.html
> 

Fair bit of a drive...now if I was still living in Texas, I might
consider it...(grin)

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[newbie] North Arkansas Linux Users Group (somewhat off topic)

[Marc]

   I hope that this may be of some use to a few people on 
this list. Here in North central Arkansas we have a new LUG 
in Mountain Home Arkansas
   This is the URL for more details  
http://sleve.port5.com/n/narlug.html




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[newbie] 5 stars but ...

[Rainer]

hello,

as a newbie to linux i have to agree that mandrake has been the easiest to
configure and i would like to go back - as a matter of fact i'm in the
process of downloading the 9.0 iso's.

my problem is with the nVidia drivers for the geforce2 mx/mx 400. it worked
fine on mdk 8.1 (but it didn't support my audigy card). 8.2 froze constantly
and i finally lost my xserver completely. trying to fix things on the
command line only -  as a newbie isn't fun! red hat 8.0, suse liveval 8.1,
debian 3.0, and slackware 8.1 all configure my graphics card so it works!
they might be more difficult to use but at least i have the advantage of a
gui which tends to simplify things.

so, my question is, does anyone have a relatively straightforward answer to
this problem - nvidia geforce2 mx 400/400 card and mandrake. i've followed
this mailing list and have read that this problem continues on 9.0. i really
would like to give it one more shot.

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RE: [newbie] Linux install on WinXP

[Ralph M. Los]

OK - I have a boot option on my BIOS, so I decided (for kicks) to boot
off of what was "SCSI Disk", which is my IDE-RAID on-board card (K7V333
board) and I got LILO.  It's pretty cool - it works, but took like 15
seconds for LINUX to start booting, but when it did, it flew and works
GREAT.  Weird

-Original Message-
From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux install on WinXP


On Friday 29 Nov 2002 1:04 am, Sekurity Wizard wrote:
> OK - I'm frustrated!  I've done this 3 times now and every time the 
> install appears PERFECT, except when I reboot, it goes straight to 
> WinXP.  No LILO, nothing.  I take the default location for LILO from 
> the installer, figure it would know best, and 3 times - nothing!
>
> How can I fix this?!  How do I know where to put LILO? (boot 
> partition?).
>
> Thanks - I'm lost - this sucks.

Do you have more than one hard drive?
I am wondering if you are writing Lilo to one hard drive and your Bios
is 
booting from the other.

Also did you try Grub?  I do not use it myself, but it is real easy to
switch. 
No need for a reinstall. Just go through the 'Boot' section in Mandrake 
Control Centre.

derek




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Re: [newbie] Cannot find Samba (much less make it work)

[Derek Jennings]

On Friday 29 Nov 2002 1:12 am, Thought Progress wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Tru Newbie here so please, "explain it to me like I'm a 4 year old".
>
> I cannot find samba and it is aparently not running. I am running
> Mandrake 9.0 on a PIII 500Mhz with 256 MB RAM. I know my Network is up
> because if it weren't I couldnt send this mail.
>
> I downloaded and installed Samba thru Red Carpet and there were no
> errors. But I cant find any of the files. When I try to "man samba" I
> get  "no manual entry for samba.
>
> Someone please tell me what I am doing wrong, where I need to look for
> answers, what I need to download, etc.
>
> Thanks,
>
> TP

If you are a true Newbie you are best off using the Mandrake supplied packages 
rather than Ximian ones. They will then be installed in the expected 
locations and can be autoconfigured for you.

So for example the real easy way to set up  a samba server is to open up the 
software installer in Mandrake Control Centre. Install an RPM called 
'wizdrake'.  Close Mandrake Control Centre and reopen it.

You will then see a new category called 'Server'  In there is a section for 
Samba. Just go through the GUI.  In the process it will install Samba for 
you.(samba-server and samba-common)  Since there was a new version of Samba 
released last week, it will get the files off the Internet, so make sure you 
are connected at the time.

That is it for samba server.

For a Samba client, just open Mandrake Control Centre, go to the Software 
installer, and install the samba-client RPM.

HTH

derek



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Re: [newbie] pine4.5 installation on Mandrake 9.0

[Derek Jennings]

On Friday 29 Nov 2002 12:52 am, Wei Wang wrote:
> I am trying to install pine4.5 on my Mandrake 9.0 from source
> and get error message saying I don't have Openssl support.
> I already had openssl and openssl-devel 0.9.6g-1 installed. Am
> I missing something here?
>
>
> Wei

There is an RPM for Pine on Penguin Liberation Front
http://plf.zarb.org/

PLF is where you will find RPMs with questionable licences, or subject to 
patents.

Follow the instructions on the front page and you can get urpmi access to PLF 
RPMs  (Be careful some servers are really slow)

You can then install Pine with a simple

urpmi pine
Or use the Mandrake Software Manager GUI.

Much nicer than those nasty tarballs  :)

derek



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Re: [newbie] 5 Stars to Mandrake!

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 12:31, Derek Jennings wrote:
> I totally agree Terry. 
> After having used Mandrake for 18 months I thought had better check on other 
> distros, just in case I was being blind to their merits.  Red Hat 8 's 
> install went very nicely, and the fonts were great, but when I tried to 
> actually 'do things' in it I found I missed all the little tools and 
> facilities I took for granted with Mandrake. The package management for 
> example is dreadful by comparison.
> 
> Libranet was nice, and the apt-get servers seem to be faster than the servers 
> Mandrake use for urpmi, but there were no tools for setting anything up at 
> all, and the menus contained entries for every darned utility installed!!
> 
> So I guess I will not be changing distros soon(Especially not after having 
> just renewed Mandrake Club membership)
> 
> derek

I still think that RH 8 is like Gnome2 - unpolished, unfinished and
pushed out to the public before it's time - RH 7.3, on the other hand,
ain't all that bad...happier installing it on systems than anything else
so far...guess I just got more familiar with it's idiosyncrasies and
it's work-arounds and can get it up and running in a production
environment quicker than the rest...

(BeOS was still hotter and faster, but those are bygone days)
 
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Re: [newbie] 5 Stars to Mandrake!

[Derek Jennings]

I totally agree Terry. 
After having used Mandrake for 18 months I thought had better check on other 
distros, just in case I was being blind to their merits.  Red Hat 8 's 
install went very nicely, and the fonts were great, but when I tried to 
actually 'do things' in it I found I missed all the little tools and 
facilities I took for granted with Mandrake. The package management for 
example is dreadful by comparison.

Libranet was nice, and the apt-get servers seem to be faster than the servers 
Mandrake use for urpmi, but there were no tools for setting anything up at 
all, and the menus contained entries for every darned utility installed!!

So I guess I will not be changing distros soon(Especially not after having 
just renewed Mandrake Club membership)

derek

On Friday 29 Nov 2002 12:43 am, Terry Smith wrote:
> I've been on this list a fairly long time in 'newbie' years, a little
> over a year at this point!
>
> I started out with Mandrake 7.2 and progressed to 8.0, 8.1 and 8.2.
> However, for the last several months I have not been using Mandrake.
>
> Instead, I've been doing a 'distro a week', installing Red Hat 7.2, 7.3
> (the 'official' system at work), and Red Hat 8.0 on a number of boxes.
> My main computer at home runs Gentoo and I have another running a new
> install of Libranet (Debian based).
>
> I've remianed subscribed to this list because there is useful advice,
> good tips, and because a lot of folks on the list are awesome in their
> knowledge!
>
> Before I rattle on too long...I installed Mandrake 9.0 on this box last
> night. I'm very impressed.
>
> My logitech webacm was immedidately detected and xawtv installed (no
> other distro did that). My HP500PSC printer/copier/scanner was detected
> as an Office Jet R40 (which usually happens and works fairly well as a
> CUPS printer) *but* Mandrake knew it had a scanner built in and
> installed a xsane backend. I can scan with Kooka! This is the first time
> I ever got the scanner to actually work
>
> Mandrake installed the arts soundserver which is much better quality
> than the alsa sound server I had been using.
>
> The menu structure is much more intuitive and easy to use than the mess
> Red Hat makes out of menus.
>
> In fact, I have given up on RH 8.0's Bluecurve look altogether. It's too
> 'dummied down' to allow easy access to the apps I'm used to and totally
> fouls up the desktop when I switch back and forth between KDE or Gnome
> in Gentoo versus KDE or Gnome in Red Hat where both distros use a shared
> /home directory.
>
> The MCC is a marvel..
>
> I could go on, but I'm super impressed and can't believe I wanderred
> away from Mandrake for so long. Kudos to Mandrake.
>
> Terry Smith
> Cape Cod USA



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Re: [newbie] Cannot find Samba (much less make it work)

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 12:12, Thought Progress wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> Tru Newbie here so please, "explain it to me like I'm a 4 year old".
> 
> I cannot find samba and it is aparently not running. I am running 
> Mandrake 9.0 on a PIII 500Mhz with 256 MB RAM. I know my Network is up 
> because if it weren't I couldnt send this mail.
> 
> I downloaded and installed Samba thru Red Carpet and there were no 
> errors. But I cant find any of the files. When I try to "man samba" I 
> get  "no manual entry for samba.
> 
> Someone please tell me what I am doing wrong, where I need to look for 
> answers, what I need to download, etc.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> TP

You can configure SAMBA through either WEBMIN or SWAT - Webmin is
easiest at first - open up your browser and point to:

https://localhost:1/

Logon as the root user, go to SERVERS and you'll see SAMBA right
there...along with SWAT...

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Re: [newbie] Linux install on WinXP

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 12:04, Sekurity Wizard wrote:
> OK - I'm frustrated!  I've done this 3 times now and every time the
> install appears PERFECT, except when I reboot, it goes straight to
> WinXP.  No LILO, nothing.  I take the default location for LILO from the
> installer, figure it would know best, and 3 times - nothing!
> 
> How can I fix this?!  How do I know where to put LILO? (boot
> partition?).
> 
> Thanks - I'm lost - this sucks.
> 

Try booting with a Win98 boot disk , running FDISK and setting the
partition where the linux boot is to ACTIVE - then reboot - you'll find
lilo happily living where it's supposed to be - and you can add your
other OS to the boot menu by typing "lilo" at the console prompt.

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Re: [newbie] Linux install on WinXP

[Derek Jennings]

On Friday 29 Nov 2002 1:04 am, Sekurity Wizard wrote:
> OK - I'm frustrated!  I've done this 3 times now and every time the
> install appears PERFECT, except when I reboot, it goes straight to
> WinXP.  No LILO, nothing.  I take the default location for LILO from the
> installer, figure it would know best, and 3 times - nothing!
>
> How can I fix this?!  How do I know where to put LILO? (boot
> partition?).
>
> Thanks - I'm lost - this sucks.

Do you have more than one hard drive?
I am wondering if you are writing Lilo to one hard drive and your Bios is 
booting from the other.

Also did you try Grub?  I do not use it myself, but it is real easy to switch. 
No need for a reinstall. Just go through the 'Boot' section in Mandrake 
Control Centre.

derek



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[newbie] Cannot find Samba (much less make it work)

[Thought Progress]

Hello All,

Tru Newbie here so please, "explain it to me like I'm a 4 year old".

I cannot find samba and it is aparently not running. I am running 
Mandrake 9.0 on a PIII 500Mhz with 256 MB RAM. I know my Network is up 
because if it weren't I couldnt send this mail.

I downloaded and installed Samba thru Red Carpet and there were no 
errors. But I cant find any of the files. When I try to "man samba" I 
get  "no manual entry for samba.

Someone please tell me what I am doing wrong, where I need to look for 
answers, what I need to download, etc.

Thanks,

TP


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Re: [newbie] pine4.5 installation on Mandrake 9.0

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 11:52, Wei Wang wrote:
> I am trying to install pine4.5 on my Mandrake 9.0 from source
> and get error message saying I don't have Openssl support. 
> I already had openssl and openssl-devel 0.9.6g-1 installed. Am
> I missing something here? 
>  
> Wei

Have you re-run ldconfig? That might be the problem - else, you might
want to see if the ./configure has options to point the program to a
different prefix location...(or disable it if you want)

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[newbie] Linux install on WinXP

[Sekurity Wizard]

OK - I'm frustrated!  I've done this 3 times now and every time the
install appears PERFECT, except when I reboot, it goes straight to
WinXP.  No LILO, nothing.  I take the default location for LILO from the
installer, figure it would know best, and 3 times - nothing!

How can I fix this?!  How do I know where to put LILO? (boot
partition?).

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[newbie] pine4.5 installation on Mandrake 9.0

[Wei Wang]

I am trying to install pine4.5 on my Mandrake 9.0 from 
source
and get error message saying I don't have Openssl support. 

I already had openssl and openssl-devel 0.9.6g-1 installed. 
Am
I missing something here? 
 
 
Wei

[newbie] 5 Stars to Mandrake!

[Terry Smith]

I've been on this list a fairly long time in 'newbie' years, a little
over a year at this point!

I started out with Mandrake 7.2 and progressed to 8.0, 8.1 and 8.2.
However, for the last several months I have not been using Mandrake.

Instead, I've been doing a 'distro a week', installing Red Hat 7.2, 7.3
(the 'official' system at work), and Red Hat 8.0 on a number of boxes.
My main computer at home runs Gentoo and I have another running a new
install of Libranet (Debian based).

I've remianed subscribed to this list because there is useful advice,
good tips, and because a lot of folks on the list are awesome in their
knowledge!

Before I rattle on too long...I installed Mandrake 9.0 on this box last
night. I'm very impressed.

My logitech webacm was immedidately detected and xawtv installed (no
other distro did that). My HP500PSC printer/copier/scanner was detected
as an Office Jet R40 (which usually happens and works fairly well as a
CUPS printer) *but* Mandrake knew it had a scanner built in and
installed a xsane backend. I can scan with Kooka! This is the first time
I ever got the scanner to actually work

Mandrake installed the arts soundserver which is much better quality
than the alsa sound server I had been using.

The menu structure is much more intuitive and easy to use than the mess
Red Hat makes out of menus. 

In fact, I have given up on RH 8.0's Bluecurve look altogether. It's too
'dummied down' to allow easy access to the apps I'm used to and totally
fouls up the desktop when I switch back and forth between KDE or Gnome
in Gentoo versus KDE or Gnome in Red Hat where both distros use a shared
/home directory.

The MCC is a marvel..

I could go on, but I'm super impressed and can't believe I wanderred
away from Mandrake for so long. Kudos to Mandrake.

Terry Smith
Cape Cod USA



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Re: [newbie] Mandrake does not detect IDE devices on motherboard

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 11:35, Nikunj Bansal wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I recently upgraded the motherboard and the CPU on my
> PC and am unable to  use or install Mandrake (tried
> versions 8.2 and 9.0) after that. On the  other hand,
> the previous RedHat 9.0 install on another partition
> on the  same PC works fine as well as RedHat 9.0
> Install CD works fine too.
> 
RED HAT 9 ??? Wow - you're getting things faster than they make 'em
mate!

> The new Motherboard is ABIT BD-711 and new CPU is
> Intel Celeron 1.8GHz.  First of all my old install of
> Mandrake 8.2 wont boot on the new setup. So I tried
> installing anew. However, both 8.2 and 9.0 installs
> give an error  "No CDROM device found" in the initial
> stages of the install itself.
> 
Have you tried disabling the PNP settings in BIOS?

> So, I did more experimentation on my setup. Apparently
> any IDE devices  plugged into the motherboard IDE
> controller are not being recognized by the  Mandrake
> installed kernel as well as the Mandrake Install CD
> kernel. How do I know this? Because I have a PCI-IDE
> bridge too and when I plugged my  CDRom and the hard
> disk into this controller and boot from the floppy
> using  the cdrom.img on it, the install starts
> recognizing these. However this way, I cannot use
> CDROMs and my main HDD to boot my PC at all (will have
> to use floppy all the time) and I dont wish to
> configure this way.
> 
> Anyone seen any similar problems before with
> ABIT-BD-711 or some other  motherboard? Any pointers
> will be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Nikunj.
> 
Can I get a copy of RH 9? (gri)

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[newbie] Mandrake does not detect IDE devices on motherboard

[Nikunj Bansal]

Hi all,

I recently upgraded the motherboard and the CPU on my
PC and am unable to  use or install Mandrake (tried
versions 8.2 and 9.0) after that. On the  other hand,
the previous RedHat 9.0 install on another partition
on the  same PC works fine as well as RedHat 9.0
Install CD works fine too.

The new Motherboard is ABIT BD-711 and new CPU is
Intel Celeron 1.8GHz.  First of all my old install of
Mandrake 8.2 wont boot on the new setup. So I tried
installing anew. However, both 8.2 and 9.0 installs
give an error  "No CDROM device found" in the initial
stages of the install itself.

So, I did more experimentation on my setup. Apparently
any IDE devices  plugged into the motherboard IDE
controller are not being recognized by the  Mandrake
installed kernel as well as the Mandrake Install CD
kernel. How do I know this? Because I have a PCI-IDE
bridge too and when I plugged my  CDRom and the hard
disk into this controller and boot from the floppy
using  the cdrom.img on it, the install starts
recognizing these. However this way, I cannot use
CDROMs and my main HDD to boot my PC at all (will have
to use floppy all the time) and I dont wish to
configure this way.

Anyone seen any similar problems before with
ABIT-BD-711 or some other  motherboard? Any pointers
will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Nikunj.


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RE: Re: [newbie] M8.2 with WinXP

[seanygoh]

well a friend gave a burnt xp professional cd to me..
> 
> From: "Eileen Lopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri 29/11/2002 12:58 AM GMT+08:00
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Re: [newbie] M8.2 with WinXP
> 
> Question here -- is your XP install disk OEM or retail?  Some of the OEM
> disks are incompatible with any sort of dual-boot setup due to adding
> hidden partitions.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 7:01 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Re: [newbie] M8.2 with WinXP
> >
> >
> > Hi Erik,
> >Ok, i tried what u said. Downloaded AutoClave and ran it.
> > Did 1 pass since i tot that's enough. Reinstalled xp (NTFS).
> > Later, resized it using PQMagic, having Fat32 and ext2.
> > Booted into Mandrake setup.and Got the same
> > problem!!! I feel it's not the harddisk then. Bios perhaps?
> >I also downloaded the clean up program from fujitsu(my
> > harddisk manufacturer). Ran it and did the same thing, got
> > the same problem.
> >If this goes on i'm going to sue Toshiba. ;)
> >
> >
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] any ideas?

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 11:20, Richard J. wrote:
> I have no idea how to get my modem to connect to the internet. All I am 
> getting is my computer picking up the, the dial tone, then it wont dial.
> 
> This is the script or whatever that happens when I try to connect
> 
> ATZ
> OK
> ATS11=22
> OK
> ATM1L1
> OK
> ATDT087303030
> 
> Then it does nothing more than that.
> 
> If anyone can help me, I'd be grateful, otherwise I think I will go back to 
> microsoft until I get DSL
> 
> thanks

Have you tried using the following:

ATZ
AT &F &C1 &D2 E1
ATDTW 087303030

Give that a go and see what happens mate!

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[newbie] any ideas?

[Richard J.]

I have no idea how to get my modem to connect to the internet. All I am 
getting is my computer picking up the, the dial tone, then it wont dial.

This is the script or whatever that happens when I try to connect

ATZ
OK
ATS11=22
OK
ATM1L1
OK
ATDT087303030

Then it does nothing more than that.

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microsoft until I get DSL

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Re: [newbie] asking

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 09:37, Ahmed S.Moussa wrote:
> Dear Sir,
> 
> i have linus version: Linux-Mandrake 8.0 , and i have Windows XP and i
> want to install linux as another operating system like for example
> when installing windows xp with windows me. please reply to me.
> Ahmed
> 
> __
Ahmed,

Try this:

1.) Install Mandrake first - create enough space just for Mandrake first
- and leave enough space for XP - but don't format it. Let Mandrake
setup LILO as the boot manager.
2.) Install XP onto the partition that you set aside for it. Format the
drive with VFAT instead of NTFS so that you can easily share the files
between the two operating systems.
3.) After installing XP, reboot into Mandrake and run "lilo" from a
terminal window - this will add the XP partition to your boot menu.

That's the simplest way put.

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Re: [newbie] Compare Disks

[Jordan Elver]

On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 7:42 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Jordan Elver wrote:
> >Hi,
> >Is there a command to compare the contents of two cds?
> >So, I put one cd in my cdburner, one in my dvd drive. Can I compare that
> > they contain exactly the same files?
> >
> >TIA,
> >Cheers,
> >Jord
>
> Xcdroast will verify  a disc write for you, of cause that assumes that the
> original cashing up is done write, but not withstanding an accurate
> read it does a fair job of ensuring the finish write to CD is a true and
> fair copy of the cashed up .
>
> I don't see why there shouldn't be a command line way, of reading the
> disk and comparing with the written disc , in the way you describe .
> It would be interesting to know if anyone has a method. If xcdroast
> a gui front end can read a harddrive and compare it with a disc then
> Igues the same programme can read on cd and compare it with
> another CD.
>
>
> John

I thought as much. I would like a way to do this, I don't seem to get on with 
many of the gui cd burning software available and would like a quick command 
line for it. I'm sure there must be something.

Thanks for the reply,
Cheers, Jord
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Re: [newbie] Technical drawing tools

[John Richard Smith]

Stephen Kuhn wrote:


On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 01:48, John Richard Smith wrote:

 

Yes , Stephen,

Technical drawing on computer, you know round widgets and things.

I'm currently looking at gcad, which I take to mean Computer Aided Design.
and Dia, both look promissing, I found a help file for qcad , seems to
think you know quite a bit already, and the manual doesn't start to get
going for some depth, but I trying to make sense of it right now.

Dia seems to have a broken help file location so currently cannot make
head nor tail of it.I haven't drawn with computers before so this is all 
new.

I need to draw a plan, side, and end view of a device I'm giving to
a friend so he can make it for himself.

thanks.

John
   


I did notice that the "Dia" with MDK wasn't setup quite correctly - the
Dia on my RH box has all the proper help files and the likes - and when
I did the upgrade, I did it via tarball.


Did you, that explains it, I used rpm's  , I think off the website or 
was it an rpmfind found
site I cannot remember. I will take a look at that, I found some help pages
on the net but I really wanted something I could either download as say 
a pdf file
and store on a spare partition, like I do with gimp, then i can just 
look it up anytime,
or builtinto the app itself.

John


There's been several "CAD" style proggies floating around - seen at
either Icewalk, Apps.kde.org, LinuxApps, PlanetMirror, Gnome.org,
Sourceforge.net and Freshmeat.net...

Have you taken a bounce around there to check it out?
(Remember, CAD programs were first run under UNIX...)

 



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Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 9:34 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:

> Oh, one other thing, look in you file browser, at the /mnt partition and
> see if it shows something there.  Mine shows "memory_card". I did not make
> that file, the system did when it saw I had a card reader attached. So if
> yours shows something different than "cardreader" try mounting what the
> system made up for you and see what happens.

There is a directory /mnt/disk which I did not make.  I have tried 
substituting disk for cardreader, but get exactly the same messages.

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Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 9:34 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> On Thursday 28 November 2002 01:02 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 5:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is
> > > settled in.  To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows:
> >
> > I tried a re-boot, and found that my sda was now sdb, and the card was
> > recognised as sda.  Then I tried to mount it:
> > ---
> > mount /dev/hda /mnt/cardreader
> > mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
> > mount: No medium found
> > [root@anne-linux anne]# umount /mnt/cardreader
> > umount: /mnt/cardreader: not mounted
> > 
> >
> > I presume that this means that it is finding the CF slot, for which I
> > don't have a card, and not the SM slot, in which I have placed a card.
> >
> > Is that your interpretation?
> >
> > Anne
>
> Oh, one other thing, look in you file browser, at the /mnt partition and
> see if it shows something there.  Mine shows "memory_card". I did not make
> that file, the system did when it saw I had a card reader attached. So if
> yours shows something different than "cardreader" try mounting what the
> system made up for you and see what happens.


BTW - is there any way to deal with this swapping identities?  I have just 
realised that fstab is attempting to mount /dev/sda as /mnt/LS120 - but 
Konqueror is showing it with a padlock, like a fd or cdrom with no disk in - 
which again suggests to me that it is seeing the CF card.

Anyway, if I unplug the cardreader - I would not normally have it plugged in - 
my LS120 will be on the wrong drivename.  And when I reboot it will return to 
its own sda.

How is the name derived?  Is the position on the usb hub relevant?

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Mouse problems at boot

[John Richard Smith]

No, not necessarily, that depends on your windblows/bios relationship, 
you may need it.

No, I'm saying mandrake does not need to look at your bios settings for 
pnp instruction,
and the method I have described is the way to stop it doing  it.

John


Gordon Bradbury wrote:

Steve,

Are you saying I should try disabling the PNP in the BIOS? I'll try it and see how it goes. Yes the mouse is plugged into a PS2 port. Thanks!

Gordon



 

Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 28/11/02 14:01:54 >>>
   

On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 09:46, Gordon Bradbury wrote:
 

G'day all,

I've just got a new P4 box at home, and successfully loaded xp and mandrake 9 onto it. I'm a long-time windows user, but this is my first exposure to linux/mandrake.

I have a 2-button ps-2 mouse installed. The machine is developing the habit of sometimes not recognising the mouse when I boot up. This can happen either when I boot into xp or into Mandrake. The mouse just won't work. As I say, it's an intermittent problem. Doesn't happen all the time. I'm pretty confident that the mouse is OK, but will test it anyway.

What other possible causes might there be??

Cheers,

Gordon
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you're plugging into a PS/2 mouse port, correct? If you have the BIOS
set for PNP OS's, you might be getting the intermittent problems from
that - miscommunication through the port...

 



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Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader

[Dennis Myers]

On Thursday 28 November 2002 04:19 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 9:22 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > On Thursday 28 November 2002 01:02 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 5:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > > Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is
> > > > settled in.  To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows:
> > >
> > > I tried a re-boot, and found that my sda was now sdb, and the card was
> > > recognised as sda.  Then I tried to mount it:
> > > ---
> > > mount /dev/hda /mnt/cardreader
> > > mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
> > > mount: No medium found
> > > [root@anne-linux anne]# umount /mnt/cardreader
> > > umount: /mnt/cardreader: not mounted
> > > 
> > >
> > > I presume that this means that it is finding the CF slot, for which I
> > > don't have a card, and not the SM slot, in which I have placed a card.
> > >
> > > Is that your interpretation?
> > >
> > > Anne
> >
> > Anne, was that a typo above or did you really mean sda? Again it has to
> > have a partition designation. Try mount   /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1
> > whichever is the smart card device. Just type in that and see what it
> > returns. Then if you  cd to /mnt /cardreader it should show you data as
> > in photos by doing "ls".HTH
>
> A typo, but not sure whether it was in the email or the command, so I
> plugged in again and rebooted.  This time I realised that it had added sda,
> moved the LS120 to sdb and also added sdc - that is, according to MCC. 
> However, when I booted I got a message that sda had been added - no mention
> of sdc.  I should also say that the boot hung for a long time at 'finding
> dependencies', re-starting as soon as I disconnected the cardreader, which
> I immediately re-plugged.  I suspect that it is identifying the CF reader
> and loading the appropriate drivers, but can't cope with the SM.
>
> The root console now gives me:
>
> [root@anne-linux anne]# mount /dev/sdc /mnt/cardreader
> mount: special device /dev/sdc does not exist
> [root@anne-linux anne]# mount /dev/sda /mnt/cardreader
> mount: No medium found
>
> Konqueror does not show any entries under /mnt/cardreader.
>
> Anne

Ok, here is evidence that smart cards work, Miark's post may help, this is 
from the newbie maillist archives:
 

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Re: [newbie] Mounting SmartMedia

From: Dennis Myers 
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mounting SmartMedia 
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:34:59 -0700 
On Thursday 29 August 2002 05:34 pm, Miark wrote:
> It would run if it were so smart, eh?
>
> Anyway, I got my USB reader today, plugged it in, did
> a mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/sm and blam! I was in
> business! One less reason to depend on Winsux-- I love
> it. A couple of questions, though:
>
> *  How "hot-swappable" is this beast can I yank it out
> anytime it's not writing, or do I have to unmount it
> before I pull the card out, or the reader out of the
> USB port?
>
> *  Does supermount have anything to do with this?
>
> *  Should I put anything in /etc/fstab?
>
> Thanks,
> Miark

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Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 9:22 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> On Thursday 28 November 2002 01:02 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 5:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is
> > > settled in.  To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows:
> >
> > I tried a re-boot, and found that my sda was now sdb, and the card was
> > recognised as sda.  Then I tried to mount it:
> > ---
> > mount /dev/hda /mnt/cardreader
> > mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
> > mount: No medium found
> > [root@anne-linux anne]# umount /mnt/cardreader
> > umount: /mnt/cardreader: not mounted
> > 
> >
> > I presume that this means that it is finding the CF slot, for which I
> > don't have a card, and not the SM slot, in which I have placed a card.
> >
> > Is that your interpretation?
> >
> > Anne
>
> Anne, was that a typo above or did you really mean sda? Again it has to
> have a partition designation. Try mount   /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1 whichever
> is the smart card device. Just type in that and see what it returns. Then
> if you  cd to /mnt /cardreader it should show you data as in photos by
> doing "ls".HTH

A typo, but not sure whether it was in the email or the command, so I plugged 
in again and rebooted.  This time I realised that it had added sda, moved the 
LS120 to sdb and also added sdc - that is, according to MCC.  However, when I 
booted I got a message that sda had been added - no mention of sdc.  I should 
also say that the boot hung for a long time at 'finding dependencies', 
re-starting as soon as I disconnected the cardreader, which I immediately 
re-plugged.  I suspect that it is identifying the CF reader and loading the 
appropriate drivers, but can't cope with the SM.

The root console now gives me:

[root@anne-linux anne]# mount /dev/sdc /mnt/cardreader
mount: special device /dev/sdc does not exist
[root@anne-linux anne]# mount /dev/sda /mnt/cardreader
mount: No medium found

Konqueror does not show any entries under /mnt/cardreader.

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Re: [newbie] Technical drawing tools

[John Richard Smith]

Brian Parish wrote:


On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 01:48, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Yes , Stephen,

Technical drawing on computer, you know round widgets and things.

I'm currently looking at gcad, which I take to mean Computer Aided Design.
and Dia, both look promissing, I found a help file for qcad , seems to
think you know quite a bit already, and the manual doesn't start to get
going for some depth, but I trying to make sense of it right now.

Dia seems to have a broken help file location so currently cannot make
head nor tail of it.I haven't drawn with computers before so this is all 
new.

I need to draw a plan, side, and end view of a device I'm giving to
a friend so he can make it for himself.

thanks.

John
   


John,

Regarding qcad, check this out to get you started:

http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/January2002/article132.shtml

HTH
Brian




 

Oh thanks very much Brian, that is a far better written manual than I had.
There is something a lot easier about the way it's done.

I've  created 3 view diagrams with my first brief encounter,
of course nothing is to scale and I've got to figure out how you
do that , there does not appear to be rulers as such thought you can set
calibration and scaling. It seems to me you really want a very large
monitor for commercial technical drawing , and some hole lot better
screen resolution would aid display  especially as far and straight lines
are concerned which often come out looking slightly stepped on screen,
though not otherwise.

Now one further question.

Is the qcad file format at all compatible with anything
in windblows, do you know ?

John

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Re: [newbie] Mouse problems at boot

[Gordon Bradbury]

Steve,

Are you saying I should try disabling the PNP in the BIOS? I'll try it and see how it 
goes. Yes the mouse is plugged into a PS2 port. Thanks!

Gordon



>>> Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 28/11/02 14:01:54 >>>
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 09:46, Gordon Bradbury wrote:
> G'day all,
> 
>  I've just got a new P4 box at home, and successfully loaded xp and mandrake 9 onto 
>it. I'm a long-time windows user, but this is my first exposure to linux/mandrake.
> 
> I have a 2-button ps-2 mouse installed. The machine is developing the habit of 
>sometimes not recognising the mouse when I boot up. This can happen either when I 
>boot into xp or into Mandrake. The mouse just won't work. As I say, it's an 
>intermittent problem. Doesn't happen all the time. I'm pretty confident that the 
>mouse is OK, but will test it anyway.
> 
> What other possible causes might there be??
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Gordon
> Hoabrt Tasmania
> 

There is a known issue with mice in the extreme southern hemisphere. Due
to solar flares, Hobart is subjected to extremely high doses of
anti-two-button-mouse rays and Victoria Bitters...

Nah...sorry - what about checking your BIOS settings? I'm assuming that
you're plugging into a PS/2 mouse port, correct? If you have the BIOS
set for PNP OS's, you might be getting the intermittent problems from
that - miscommunication through the port...

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Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader

[Dennis Myers]

On Thursday 28 November 2002 01:02 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 5:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is
> > settled in.  To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows:
>
> I tried a re-boot, and found that my sda was now sdb, and the card was
> recognised as sda.  Then I tried to mount it:
> ---
> mount /dev/hda /mnt/cardreader
> mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
> mount: No medium found
> [root@anne-linux anne]# umount /mnt/cardreader
> umount: /mnt/cardreader: not mounted
> 
>
> I presume that this means that it is finding the CF slot, for which I don't
> have a card, and not the SM slot, in which I have placed a card.
>
> Is that your interpretation?
>
> Anne
Oh, one other thing, look in you file browser, at the /mnt partition and see 
if it shows something there.  Mine shows "memory_card". I did not make that 
file, the system did when it saw I had a card reader attached. So if yours 
shows something different than "cardreader" try mounting what the system made 
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Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader

[Dennis Myers]

On Thursday 28 November 2002 01:02 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 5:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is
> > settled in.  To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows:
>
> I tried a re-boot, and found that my sda was now sdb, and the card was
> recognised as sda.  Then I tried to mount it:
> ---
> mount /dev/hda /mnt/cardreader
> mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
> mount: No medium found
> [root@anne-linux anne]# umount /mnt/cardreader
> umount: /mnt/cardreader: not mounted
> 
>
> I presume that this means that it is finding the CF slot, for which I don't
> have a card, and not the SM slot, in which I have placed a card.
>
> Is that your interpretation?
>
> Anne

Anne, was that a typo above or did you really mean sda? Again it has to have a 
partition designation. Try mount   /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1 whichever is the 
smart card device. Just type in that and see what it returns. Then if you  cd 
to /mnt /cardreader it should show you data as in photos by doing "ls".HTH
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Re: [newbie] How to use use XIM input method

[Derek Jennings]

On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 1:53 am, Wei Wang wrote:
> I just installed chinput and don't know how to use it. I ran
> /usr/bin/chinput but nothing happened. Having used windows for years, I was
> naively looking for a little icon in the corner of panel but didn't find
> one. ;-) Anyone give me a hand? Many thanks.
>
> Wei


If you do not know how to use a package there are a few simple ways to find 
out.

1/Google - linux search http://www.google.com/linux
The nice people at Google have a special linux search facility.
If you use Opera or Galeon browsers you can get a Google/linux search field in 
your command bar. There is plenty on chinput, but as it is all in Chinese I 
cannot help further on that :(  

2/ Kpackage - If you install an RPM and want to know what files are in it. Use 
the search facility in kpackage to find the package and you will see a list 
of the files in the package.  The executable is normally in /usr/bin  and the 
documentation is usually in /usr/share/doc and/or /usr/share/man

3/ The manual pages - Just type 'man packagename'  or 'man executable_name'   
will often start you off.

5/ The slocate facility - Install the slocate RPM, type updatedb (as root) and 
a database of every file on your system is created. Then type
'slocate string'  to find any file containing that string almost instantly.

6/ Search at SourceForge/Freshmeat The majority of OpenSource projects use 
Sourceforge to host them. A search at http://sourceforge.net/  or 
http://freshmeat.net/  will find all sorts of interesting stuff.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] changing the dial tone

[Barry Premeaux]

On Thursday 28 November 2002 12:46 pm, you wrote:
> could someone please tell me how to change the settings with the modem,
> from pulse to tone?
>
> thanks
>
> _
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Try the initialization string ATDT befor the number.

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[newbie] How can i config firewall to allow the client to send file through outside when use msn or icq

[Pratchaya Chatuphian]

How can i config firewall to allow the client to send file through 
outside when use msn or icq ?


   My network   have 5 computer clients
and 1 mandrake linux server

That the mandrake linux server act as the GW and many service server .

Now all of my client  can use internet normal   such as www , chat  and
other ..
But  have one thing that  can' t do  :: ie ::
When my client use the messenger program like msn , icq   :
It can ' t  send file to others

When use ---> send file to ...  ( other people  who use msn or icq )


Any one can help me to solve this problem ?

more information ::
My linux server   :: ip = 192.168.0.1  netmask 255.255.255.0
My Client :: ip = 192.168.0.2  - 6 netmask 255.255.255.0


:::;

Thank u for advance ::: sir
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[newbie] changing the dial tone

[Richard J.]

could someone please tell me how to change the settings with the modem, from 
pulse to tone?

thanks

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Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 8:05 pm, erylon hines wrote:
> On Thursday 28 November 2002 09:57 am, you wrote:
> > Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is
> > settled in.  To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows:
> > -
> > Bus: SCSI
> >
> > Location on the bus: 0:0
> >
> > Channel: 00
> >
> > New devfs device: scsi/host3/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
> >
> > Old device file: /dev/sdb
> >
> > host: 3
> >
> > info: Datafab USB to CF + SM C
> >
> > lun: 00
> >
> > Media class: hd
> >
> > raw_type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
> > --
> >
> > However when I try to mount /dev/sdb /mnt/cardreader I get
> >
> > mount: special device /dev/sdb does not exist
> >
> > What can I do now?
> >
> > Anne
>
> try to mount the /dev/sda with the partition number 1 --  /dev/sda1   (or
> try /dev/sdb1 if that doesn't work).  All my cardreaders have required that
> I add a partiton number in the /fstab mount line -- I have no idea why the
> install never writes /fstab for cardreaders with a partition number.

No, I still get exactly the same message.  It's frustrating to feel that I am 
so near, but still not getting there.

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader

[erylon hines]

On Thursday 28 November 2002 09:57 am, you wrote:
> Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is settled
> in.  To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows:
> -
> Bus: SCSI
>
> Location on the bus: 0:0
>
> Channel: 00
>
> New devfs device: scsi/host3/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
>
> Old device file: /dev/sdb
>
> host: 3
>
> info: Datafab USB to CF + SM C
>
> lun: 00
>
> Media class: hd
>
> raw_type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
> --
>
> However when I try to mount /dev/sdb /mnt/cardreader I get
>
> mount: special device /dev/sdb does not exist
>
> What can I do now?
>
> Anne

try to mount the /dev/sda with the partition number 1 --  /dev/sda1   (or try 
/dev/sdb1 if that doesn't work).  All my cardreaders have required that I add 
a partiton number in the /fstab mount line -- I have no idea why the install 
never writes /fstab for cardreaders with a partition number.


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Re: [newbie] Compare Disks

[John Richard Smith]

Jordan Elver wrote:


Hi,
Is there a command to compare the contents of two cds?
So, I put one cd in my cdburner, one in my dvd drive. Can I compare that they 
contain exactly the same files?

TIA,
Cheers,
Jord
 


 


Xcdroast will verify  a disc write for you, of cause that assumes that the
original cashing up is done write, but not withstanding an accurate
read it does a fair job of ensuring the finish write to CD is a true and
fair copy of the cashed up .

I don't see why there shouldn't be a command line way, of reading the
disk and comparing with the written disc , in the way you describe .
It would be interesting to know if anyone has a method. If xcdroast
a gui front end can read a harddrive and compare it with a disc then
Igues the same programme can read on cd and compare it with
another CD.


John

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Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 5:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is settled
> in.  To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows:

I tried a re-boot, and found that my sda was now sdb, and the card was 
recognised as sda.  Then I tried to mount it:
---
mount /dev/hda /mnt/cardreader
mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: No medium found
[root@anne-linux anne]# umount /mnt/cardreader
umount: /mnt/cardreader: not mounted


I presume that this means that it is finding the CF slot, for which I don't 
have a card, and not the SM slot, in which I have placed a card.

Is that your interpretation?

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader

[Dennis Myers]

On Thursday 28 November 2002 11:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is settled
> in.  To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows:
> -
> Bus: SCSI
>
> Location on the bus: 0:0
>
> Channel: 00
>
> New devfs device: scsi/host3/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
>
> Old device file: /dev/sdb
>
> host: 3
>
> info: Datafab USB to CF + SM C
>
> lun: 00
>
> Media class: hd
>
> raw_type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
> --
>
> However when I try to mount /dev/sdb /mnt/cardreader I get
>
> mount: special device /dev/sdb does not exist
>
> What can I do now?
>
> Anne
Anne, I think it wants to know about the partition,  try doing : mount  
/dev/sdb1  and then look at /mnt cardreader or if you use Konqueror look at 
/mnt and see what is mounted there.  HTH
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[newbie] Compare Disks

[Jordan Elver]

Hi,
Is there a command to compare the contents of two cds?
So, I put one cd in my cdburner, one in my dvd drive. Can I compare that they 
contain exactly the same files?

TIA,
Cheers,
Jord
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Re: [newbie] Symbolic links

[Robin Ballantine]

On Thursday 28 November 2002 10:35 am, robin wrote:
> John Richard Smith wrote:
> > How do you remove a symbolic link.
> >
> > neither man ln, nor info ln , even mentions it.
>
> I've always found rm works fine.  What you can't do is directly replace
> one symbolic link with another.
>
> Sir Robin

rm -f  will remove the link (non-interactively), if you have 
the permission.

I often re-direct symbolic links with;

ln -sf  

the -f option will force an effective overwrite of the existing link.

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Re: [newbie] Problems getting bzip2 to work......

[Alan Shoemaker]

Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> > Ronnie Boyd wrote:
> > > Hello there. I am a long term Windows user/tech support
> > > person who has recently installed Mandrake Linux,
> > > partly out of curiosity, partly because I feel it's the
> > > coming thing. I managed to install it, get it on our
> > > training LAN, mount drives and what not without any
> > > bother, but I've run into a spot of trouble trying to
> > > set up LinNeighborhood. Now, I downloaded the
> > > LinNeighborhood rpm, and it seemed to install ok,
> > > leaving me with some entries at the root. I found a web
> > > page detailing what must be done to properly unzip and
> > > install the Linneighborhood-0.6.5.tar.bz2 file,
> >
> > instead, why not download and install the mdk9 rpm file
> > from one of our 'contrib' mirror directories like the one
> > below:
> >
> > http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/9.0/contrib/Lin
> >Ne ighborhood-0.6.5-1mdk
>
> whoops, sorry that wasn't quite the link :)
>
> http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/9.0/contrib/RPMS/
>LinNeighborhood-0.6.5-1mdk.i586.html

arggg!!!

ok, i'm gonna' go to bed now, but here is the correct link:

ftp://speakeasy.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/9.0/contrib/RPMS/LinNeighborhood-0.6.5-1mdk.i586.rpm

>
> > > which is:
> > >
> > > tar -xzvf LinNeighborhood-0.6.5.tar.gz
> > > cd LinNeighborhood-0.6.5
> > > ./configure
> > > make
> > > make install
> > >
> > > The problem is that when I enter the first line I get a
> > > 'not in gzip format'  message. I figured, ok then, I'll
> > > install bzip2. This is where I've ground to a halt. I
> > > installed bzip2 from files from a webpage, couldn't get
> > > it to work. Then tried to install bzip2 from the
> > > Mandrake cd, it reported that bzip2 was already
> > > installed. I changed the 'file associations' to point
> > > any .gz or bz or bz2 files towards the bzip2 app, but
> > > still no joy.
> > >
> > > Where am I going wrong? Why is it that bzip2 doesn't
> > > appear anywhere on the start menu, or why is it that if
> > > I create a desktop link to /usr/bin/bzip2, nothing
> > > happens when I click on it? And if bzip2 really is
> > > installed, why can't I get past the 'not in gzip
> > > format' bit. Why doesn't bzip2 unzip the file instead
> > > of gzip refusing to?
> > >
> > > I installed Mandrake Linux 9.0 for the first time 10
> > > days ago. I'm using the KDE gui. The pc is a Compaq EVO
> > > P4, with 256mb ram.
> > >
> > > Please help a Linux novice out?
> > >
> > > All the best
> > >
> > > Ronnie

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Re: [newbie] TV Out X Window Problem

[Bart Salien]

Op Tuesday 26 November 2002 16:50, schreef u:
> HI
>
> I have just managed to get the tv out working on my NV card (does not
> support twinview). I altered my XF86Config-4 file and then typed in the
> command
>
> startx -- :1 -screen screen_TVout600
>
> screen-TVout600 is what i called the screen in XF86Config-4 file
>
> this worked and gave me a linux desktop , but it is black and white and not
> colour
>
> How do you alter the settings so the desktop is colour , like it is on the
> monitor ?
>
> andrew

i think it has something to do with the cable , or it is possible that the 
video card gives an output signal with an offset voltage and the color info 
gets lost on the input of your television .

To eliminate this offset voltage there are a few solutions build with just a 
few electronic components.



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Re: [newbie]

[John Richard Smith]

wouter pos wrote:


Dear people of mandrake mailinglist,

I have a problem with the installation of mandrake
9.0,

I used to have a slackware distribution installed but
it took too much of linux experience (which i don't
really have yet). I was recommended to install
mandrake.

So i made an install of mandrake: everything went
well:
I formatted the old linux partition (4.0 GB) and swap
space (125 MB) (HD is 40 GB total ~36 GB is used for
Win98).

I chose everything from the mandrake desktop
possibilities to choose from.

When the installation was completed successfully the
system was rebooted and the linux loader came up.
Linux was chosen and then my computer hanged.

With the next check line my computer hanged:

"Finding module dependencies: ."

And then my computer didn't respond to anything.

I did a reinstall and the same problem occured.
I did a upgrade and installed some more features and
again my computer hanged but with another check line
namely:

"Enabling swap space ."

And then my computer didn't respond to anything.

Every time i did a reboot the system gave an error
that my hda3 wasn't completely well mounted so a check
force was needed and within 4.7% my computer hangs
again

What is the problem??? I stayed up till 4 in the
morning coping with this problem Please help me!!!

Is my swap space too small? Is the hda3 not fully
formatted? Is my computer not compatible with
mandrake? 

(I am running windows98 beside mandrake and using a
asus a7n266 with integrated nForce video chipset and a
AMD athlon 1700+ with 385 MB of DDR ram, plextor
writer and a sony cdrom player)

I hope u can help me ty in advance,

Greetings Wouter Pos 
The netherlands.


 

It sounds like a "nobiospnp" job

I have an 1800Athlon with 512mb ddr memory, and experienced the same
problem,


What you have to do is addnobiospnp  to the
append=  line in /etc/lilo.conf  ,  note must come between the " quotes "
along with anything else that may be in the append= line, seperated
by a space for each item in the line.

Now how to do that,

If you don't mind starting again you can to it in the lilo install script.
of drakX, but I suppose you would rather prefer not to, you see you have to
get to desktop, and use a text editor to open up /etc/lilo.conf and add that
appendage , save and exit, but you cannot get to desktop at the
moment.

So reboot and at the splash screen hit f1 and
run the linux entry with  nobiospnp  that gets you onto desktop
the once and there you can make the necessary change.

John

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[newbie] Smartmedia Reader

[Anne Wilson]

Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is settled 
in.  To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows:
-
Bus: SCSI

Location on the bus: 0:0

Channel: 00

New devfs device: scsi/host3/bus0/target0/lun0/disc

Old device file: /dev/sdb

host: 3

info: Datafab USB to CF + SM C

lun: 00

Media class: hd

raw_type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
--

However when I try to mount /dev/sdb /mnt/cardreader I get

mount: special device /dev/sdb does not exist

What can I do now?

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Re: [newbie] Symbolic links

[John Richard Smith]

Erik Farnsworth wrote:


rm 

libxyz-0 -> libxyz-0.1

rm libxyz-0





On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 03:13, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

How do you remove a symbolic link.

neither man ln, nor info ln , even mentions it.

John

   

I did it this way,

I cd into directory

then ,
#rm  libxyz  

it asked Yes or no,  Y 

it seems to remove it.

Am I right.

John

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Re: [newbie] Sending email with Cable Connection

[Chris Edwards]

1. We're both military and we'll both move within a year so this 
arrangement is not permanent.
2. I've had my prodigy account for so long that to change for the short 
term would be an inconvienience.
3. I didn't understand the mechanics of smtp servers until seeing Mr. 
Jennings' post.

Jordan R. Thompson wrote:
I guess the question I have is _why_?  If the account is in your neighbor's
name, you can get him to add a user (I have cable here in Florida and we get
up to 6 users, I think.)  I don't even use the username that was given to me
as it is too hard to remember, so I created one that I can remember and I
retrieve my mail from that one.

Jordan
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:35 AM
Subject: [newbie] Sending email with Cable Connection




I recently arranged to share cable internet with my neighbor across the
hall. Previously I had been using dail-up and KPPP to establish the
connection. Now that I am on his LAN I am always connected, can surf to
my hearts's content and recieve email. However, I cannot SEND email
without dailing up.

Any suggestions on what setting I need to tweak to be able to send email
via my cable connection.

Every time I try to send (via Mozilla) I get an error to the effect that
  it couldn't connect to the smtp server: smtp.prodigy.net.

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[newbie] Has anyone had trouble

[Anthony Abby]

Finding out the status of their order for a boxed set of Mandrake 9.0? 
I have tried contacting them four times via email now, and even placed a
phone call yesterday and left a message.  Never received a response, nor
have I received my boxed set even though they charged my credit card
several weeks ago.

Anthony





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Re: [newbie]

[erylon hines]

On Thursday 28 November 2002 06:46 am, you wrote:
> Have run into a dead end with LinNeighborhood and don't know what I'm doing
> wrong.
>
> Did the...tar -xjvf LinNeighborhood-0.6.5.tar.bz2
>
> It creates the LinNeighborhood directory ok, but nothing else.
> I'm not sure if executable should be installed at this time in
> /usr/local/bin/
> I try running ./configure, then make, then make INSTALL, but nothing
> happens except:

Hmm,  looks like it may be looking in the wrong places.  But,  why don't you 
use the Mandrake LinNeighborhood rpm?  I believe it is on the 3rd disk (the 
contributions disk), at least with 8.2.  I always install it.  

If the rpm that is specifically for mdk doesn't work, then we can 
troubleshoot it.

e.

>
> [root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# ./configure
> checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
> checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
> checking for working aclocal... missing
> checking for working autoconf... missing
> checking for working automake... missing
> checking for working autoheader... missing
> checking for working makeinfo... found
> checking for gcc... no
> checking for cc... no
> checking for cc... no
> checking for cl... no
> configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
> [root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# make
> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
> [root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# make install
> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
>
> What am I doing wrong? I have spent around 3 hours trying different
> LinNeighborhood rpm's from different sites and the same thing happens at
> the same stage, so I figure I must be doing something wrong.
>
> Anyone know what it is? I really need LinNeighborhood set up.
>
> Another thing too, supposedly LinNeighborhood shows up in Networking/other/
> but on my menu there is no 'other'. Does that only appear if
> LinNeighborhood is installed?
>
> Advice much appreciated.
>
> Ronnie


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RE: Re: [newbie] M8.2 with WinXP

[Eileen Lopp]

Question here -- is your XP install disk OEM or retail?  Some of the OEM
disks are incompatible with any sort of dual-boot setup due to adding
hidden partitions.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 7:01 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Re: [newbie] M8.2 with WinXP
>
>
> Hi Erik,
>Ok, i tried what u said. Downloaded AutoClave and ran it.
> Did 1 pass since i tot that's enough. Reinstalled xp (NTFS).
> Later, resized it using PQMagic, having Fat32 and ext2.
> Booted into Mandrake setup.and Got the same
> problem!!! I feel it's not the harddisk then. Bios perhaps?
>I also downloaded the clean up program from fujitsu(my
> harddisk manufacturer). Ran it and did the same thing, got
> the same problem.
>If this goes on i'm going to sue Toshiba. ;)
>
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Re: [newbie] Fonts

[RCD]

On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 10:24:41 -0600
Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Don't know but I think the main problem was between the keyboard and the 
> scalp.  
> -- 
> Dennis M.  linux user # 180842
> 
> 
At work we call that an ID10T ticket

hehe

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Re: [newbie] Fonts

[Dennis Myers]

On Thursday 28 November 2002 10:08 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 4:06 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > Anne, the app they disappeared from was actually kmail and konqueror for
> > sure, the only fonts I could bring up there was the MS fonts that I
> > installed. I must have gotten only part of the MS fonts also cause the
> > ones I did have were really bad. Even with antialiasing.  I uninstalled
> > and have my generic ML 9.0 fonts back and I like them well enough to
> > leave MS to MS. Thanks,
>
> Dennis - this has just rung a bell.  Under 8.2 I had awful problems with
> fonts after I enabled anti-aliasing.  Could that have caused it?
>
> Anne
Don't know but I think the main problem was between the keyboard and the 
scalp.  I will check the method I used and try again later when I have more 
time, the holidays are upon us and time is at a premium. Feeling guilty just 
sitting here reading the e-mail. :  ) 
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Re: [newbie] Problems getting bzip2 to work......

[Dennis Myers]

On Thursday 28 November 2002 03:48 am, Ronnie Boyd wrote:
> Thanks! The j switch did the job and unzipped the bz2 file, creating the
> LinNeighborhood directory without problem.
>
> However, when I then try the following commands, I get error messages
>
> ./configure
> make
> make install
>
> [root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# ./configure
> checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
> checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
> checking for working aclocal... missing
> checking for working autoconf... missing
> checking for working automake... missing
> checking for working autoheader... missing
> checking for working makeinfo... found
> checking for gcc... no
> checking for cc... no
> checking for cc... no
> checking for cl... no
> configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
> [root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# make
> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
> [root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# make install
> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
>
> Any advice?
>
> Out of curiosity, what is the LinNeighborhood executable called, I'm
> guessing (bravely enough) that it's Linneighborhood dot something?
> I think I read that it should be in /usr/local/bin, though there's nothing
> at all in that directory.
>
> Thanks to all who gave me advice, it was and is greatly appreciated.
>
> Ronnie
>
>
>
> Michael Viron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@linux-mandrake.com on 28/11/2002
> 08:49:30
>
> Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:
> Subject:Re: [newbie] Problems getting bzip2 to work..
>
>
> The page details how to uncompress the files if they are in ".tar.gz"
> format -- going through the options for tar:
>
> x - extract
> z - unzip (via gzip / gunzip)
> v - verbose
> f - use file following this flag
>
> To unbzip2 a compressed file, you'll have to do:
>
> x - extract
> j - unbzip2 (for newer, 8.0 and above releases)
> v - verbose
> f - use file following this flag
>
> (so that command would be "tar -xjvf Linneighborhood-0.6.5.tar.bz2" without
> the quotes).
> For more info, do a "man bzip2", "man tar", and "man gzip" without the
> quotes.
Looks like you need a gcc compiler which is on the disks and install the 
autoconf , automake, autoheader and aclocal packages, also should be on the 
disks. Then give it another go and it should run, he said hopefully. 
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Re: [newbie] Fonts

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 4:06 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:

> Anne, the app they disappeared from was actually kmail and konqueror for
> sure, the only fonts I could bring up there was the MS fonts that I
> installed. I must have gotten only part of the MS fonts also cause the ones
> I did have were really bad. Even with antialiasing.  I uninstalled and have
> my generic ML 9.0 fonts back and I like them well enough to leave MS to MS.
> Thanks,

Dennis - this has just rung a bell.  Under 8.2 I had awful problems with fonts 
after I enabled anti-aliasing.  Could that have caused it?

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Re: [newbie] Fonts

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 4:06 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> On Thursday 28 November 2002 04:11 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 27 Nov 2002 11:54 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > > Hi, all, I thought it would be a good idea to install the MS TTF fonts
> > > and give myself some more options. I was more than satisfied with the
> > > default fonts but being the perpetual tinkerer I had to do it. Now the
> > > problem is I don't have the original sets, like the helvetica family is
> > > missing and some others. Anyone know how to get them back into the mix?
> > > I have looked at /etc/fonts/fonts.gonf and don't see anything to change
> > >  to get them back. Help is appreciated.
> >
> > Dennis - I'm surprised at this.  Helvetica is still on my list on
> > OpenOffice. Are you sure they've disappeared, or is it one application in
> > particular that can't see them?
> >
> > Anne
>
> Anne, the app they disappeared from was actually kmail and konqueror for
> sure, the only fonts I could bring up there was the MS fonts that I
> installed. I must have gotten only part of the MS fonts also cause the ones
> I did have were really bad. Even with antialiasing.  I uninstalled and have
> my generic ML 9.0 fonts back and I like them well enough to leave MS to MS.
> Thanks,



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Re: [newbie] Fonts

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 4:06 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> On Thursday 28 November 2002 04:11 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 27 Nov 2002 11:54 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > > Hi, all, I thought it would be a good idea to install the MS TTF fonts
> > > and give myself some more options. I was more than satisfied with the
> > > default fonts but being the perpetual tinkerer I had to do it. Now the
> > > problem is I don't have the original sets, like the helvetica family is
> > > missing and some others. Anyone know how to get them back into the mix?
> > > I have looked at /etc/fonts/fonts.gonf and don't see anything to change
> > >  to get them back. Help is appreciated.
> >
> > Dennis - I'm surprised at this.  Helvetica is still on my list on
> > OpenOffice. Are you sure they've disappeared, or is it one application in
> > particular that can't see them?
> >
> > Anne
>
> Anne, the app they disappeared from was actually kmail and konqueror for
> sure, the only fonts I could bring up there was the MS fonts that I
> installed. 

How puzzling!  I've just checked and there are 4 versions of Helvetica in my 
fonts list for KMail.  In fact it tells me I'm using a customised font 
(without indicating which one), and I think I set it to Helvetica, though I 
can't be sure which one.

I must have gotten only part of the MS fonts also cause the ones
> I did have were really bad. Even with antialiasing.  I uninstalled and have
> my generic ML 9.0 fonts back and I like them well enough to leave MS to MS.

It's curious how many problems we have that really bug some users and simply 
don't happen to others.  Mind you, I think that similar things happened with 
8.2 until it settled down.  I guess that eventually we'll come to understand 
the cause of many of these problems.

Anne



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Re: [newbie] Fonts

[Dennis Myers]

On Thursday 28 November 2002 04:11 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 Nov 2002 11:54 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > Hi, all, I thought it would be a good idea to install the MS TTF fonts
> > and give myself some more options. I was more than satisfied with the
> > default fonts but being the perpetual tinkerer I had to do it. Now the
> > problem is I don't have the original sets, like the helvetica family is
> > missing and some others. Anyone know how to get them back into the mix? I
> > have looked at /etc/fonts/fonts.gonf and don't see anything to change  to
> > get them back. Help is appreciated.
>
> Dennis - I'm surprised at this.  Helvetica is still on my list on
> OpenOffice. Are you sure they've disappeared, or is it one application in
> particular that can't see them?
>
> Anne

Anne, the app they disappeared from was actually kmail and konqueror for sure, 
the only fonts I could bring up there was the MS fonts that I installed. I 
must have gotten only part of the MS fonts also cause the ones I did have 
were really bad. Even with antialiasing.  I uninstalled and have my generic 
ML 9.0 fonts back and I like them well enough to leave MS to MS. Thanks,
-- 
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Re: [newbie] Problems getting bzip2 to work......

[Michael Viron]

You need to install automake, autoconf, and gcc.

Michael
At 09:48 AM 11/28/2002 +, you wrote:
>Thanks! The j switch did the job and unzipped the bz2 file, creating the
>LinNeighborhood directory without problem.
>
>However, when I then try the following commands, I get error messages
>
>./configure
>make
>make install
>
>[root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# ./configure
>checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
>checking whether build environment is sane... yes
>checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
>checking for working aclocal... missing
>checking for working autoconf... missing
>checking for working automake... missing
>checking for working autoheader... missing
>checking for working makeinfo... found
>checking for gcc... no
>checking for cc... no
>checking for cc... no
>checking for cl... no
>configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
>[root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# make
>make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
>[root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# make install
>make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
>
>Any advice?
>
>Out of curiosity, what is the LinNeighborhood executable called, I'm
>guessing (bravely enough) that it's Linneighborhood dot something?
>I think I read that it should be in /usr/local/bin, though there's nothing
>at all in that directory.
>
>Thanks to all who gave me advice, it was and is greatly appreciated.
>
>Ronnie
>
>
>
>Michael Viron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@linux-mandrake.com on 28/11/2002
>08:49:30
>
>Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>cc:
>Subject:Re: [newbie] Problems getting bzip2 to work..
>
>
>The page details how to uncompress the files if they are in ".tar.gz"
>format -- going through the options for tar:
>
>x - extract
>z - unzip (via gzip / gunzip)
>v - verbose
>f - use file following this flag
>
>To unbzip2 a compressed file, you'll have to do:
>
>x - extract
>j - unbzip2 (for newer, 8.0 and above releases)
>v - verbose
>f - use file following this flag
>
>(so that command would be "tar -xjvf Linneighborhood-0.6.5.tar.bz2" without
>the quotes).
>For more info, do a "man bzip2", "man tar", and "man gzip" without the
>quotes.
>
>--
>Michael Viron
>Project Manager / Primary Developer / Manager of Online Operations
>General Education Online
>
>
>At 08:24 AM 11/28/2002 +, you wrote:
>>Hello there. I am a long term Windows user/tech support person who has
>>recently installed Mandrake Linux, partly out of curiosity, partly because
>>I feel it's the coming thing. I managed to install it, get it on our
>>training LAN, mount drives and what not without any bother, but I've run
>>into a spot of trouble trying to set up LinNeighborhood. Now, I downloaded
>>the LinNeighborhood rpm, and it seemed to install ok, leaving me with some
>>entries at the root. I found a web page detailing what must be done to
>>properly unzip and install the Linneighborhood-0.6.5.tar.bz2 file, which
>>is:
>>
>>tar -xzvf LinNeighborhood-0.6.5.tar.gz
>>cd LinNeighborhood-0.6.5
>>./configure
>>make
>>make install
>>
>>The problem is that when I enter the first line I get a 'not in gzip
>>format'  message. I figured, ok then, I'll install bzip2. This is where
>>I've ground to a halt. I installed bzip2 from files from a webpage,
>>couldn't get it to work. Then tried to install bzip2 from the Mandrake cd,
>>it reported that bzip2 was already installed. I changed the 'file
>>associations' to point any .gz or bz or bz2 files towards the bzip2 app,
>>but still no joy.
>>
>>Where am I going wrong? Why is it that bzip2 doesn't appear anywhere on
>the
>>start menu, or why is it that if I create a desktop link to
>/usr/bin/bzip2,
>>nothing happens when I click on it? And if bzip2 really is installed, why
>>can't I get past the 'not in gzip format' bit. Why doesn't bzip2 unzip the
>>file instead of gzip refusing to?
>>
>>I installed Mandrake Linux 9.0 for the first time 10 days ago. I'm using
>>the KDE gui. The pc is a Compaq EVO P4, with 256mb ram.
>>
>>Please help a Linux novice out?
>>
>>All the best
>>
>>Ronnie
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [newbie]

[wouter pos]

Dear people of mandrake mailinglist,

I have a problem with the installation of mandrake
9.0,

I used to have a slackware distribution installed but
it took too much of linux experience (which i don't
really have yet). I was recommended to install
mandrake.

So i made an install of mandrake: everything went
well:
I formatted the old linux partition (4.0 GB) and swap
space (125 MB) (HD is 40 GB total ~36 GB is used for
Win98).

I chose everything from the mandrake desktop
possibilities to choose from.

When the installation was completed successfully the
system was rebooted and the linux loader came up.
Linux was chosen and then my computer hanged.

With the next check line my computer hanged:

"Finding module dependencies: ."

And then my computer didn't respond to anything.

I did a reinstall and the same problem occured.
I did a upgrade and installed some more features and
again my computer hanged but with another check line
namely:

"Enabling swap space ."

And then my computer didn't respond to anything.

Every time i did a reboot the system gave an error
that my hda3 wasn't completely well mounted so a check
force was needed and within 4.7% my computer hangs
again

What is the problem??? I stayed up till 4 in the
morning coping with this problem Please help me!!!

Is my swap space too small? Is the hda3 not fully
formatted? Is my computer not compatible with
mandrake? 

(I am running windows98 beside mandrake and using a
asus a7n266 with integrated nForce video chipset and a
AMD athlon 1700+ with 385 MB of DDR ram, plextor
writer and a sony cdrom player)

I hope u can help me ty in advance,

Greetings Wouter Pos 
The netherlands.

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Re: [newbie]

[Ronnie Boyd]

Downloaded from there before, same problem unfortunately.

_


Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@linux-mandrake.com on 28/11/2002
14:51:12

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On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 2:46 pm, Ronnie Boyd wrote:
> Have run into a dead end with LinNeighborhood and don't know what I'm
doing
> wrong.

Did you get Alan Shoemaker's post?  I think you would be well to try it.
In
case you didn't, here is the important bit:

/quote

> instead, why not download and install the mdk9 rpm file
> from one of our 'contrib' mirror directories like the one
> below:
>
> http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/9.0/contrib/LinNe
>ighborhood-0.6.5-1mdk

whoops, sorry that wasn't quite the link :)

http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/9.0/contrib/RPMS/LinNeighborhood-0.6.5-1mdk.i586.html


/endquote

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Re: Re: [newbie] M8.2 with WinXP

[seanygoh]

Hi Erik,
   Ok, i tried what u said. Downloaded AutoClave and ran it. Did 1 pass since i tot 
that's enough. Reinstalled xp (NTFS). Later, resized it using PQMagic, having Fat32 
and ext2. Booted into Mandrake setup.and Got the same problem!!! I feel it's 
not the harddisk then. Bios perhaps?
   I also downloaded the clean up program from fujitsu(my harddisk manufacturer). Ran 
it and did the same thing, got the same problem.
   If this goes on i'm going to sue Toshiba. ;)

Sean
> 
> From: Erik Farnsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu 28/11/2002 1:36 PM GMT+08:00
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] M8.2 with WinXP
> 
> If you are going to use fdisk, ONLY use it if you are going to install
> XP on a Fat32 partition. NTFS and fdisk don't play together very well.
> I've had to fix more installs of Win2000 and XP because a customer
> decided to do it themselves and fdisked.  The WinOs installed, but
> refused to correctly convert to NTFS...and were very unstable.
> 
> The easiest way to do this is totally clear the disk.  I normally use a
> program called AutoClave 0.3 .. free program on the internet, boots from
> floppy, can be written to a floppy in windows or linux...is a minix
> version of linux and you have a 5 level choice from 1 to 25 passes to
> zero the disk or sterilize it.
> 
> Once the disk is totally 00 , then M$ XP will think it's a brand new
> drive and ask to partition/format... and then continue to install.  Once
> you have XP installed, use a trial version of Partition Magic or one of
> the other partitioning tools that work with XP (NTFS) and resize the
> partition, leaving room for the Fat32 partition and the linux
> partition.  Create the Fat32 partition and then write it all to disk. 
> Boot into XP to make sure it all works.
> 
> >From there, you should be able to 'restart' and boot the mdk CD1 and
> load the OS without interference from XP. Mandrake setup should see the
> NTFS and Fat32 partitions (don't let it do anything to them--use expert
> mode) and it will see the 'blank' space after those partitions. Because
> the drive was put in a 00 state, XP will have written the mbr correctly
> and it should no longer be a problem for mdk.
> 
> HTH.
> Erik
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 21:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > thanks stephen, but i still got the same problem.
> > i believe there is something wrong with my mbr coz mandrake can't read the 
>partition table. I don't know much about this thing but i'm willing to do it. I read 
>that windows will somehow leave itself on a certain part of the harddisk even if you 
>format the drive. Well, i downloaded the program to zero the harddisk here.
> > It says this"
> > "This procedure performs a pseudo-formatting to the drive. It erases all of your 
>previous data and reinitializes it to "00" pattern. By performing this task, you will 
>be able to erase the whole user area including your Master Boot Record, Partition 
>Table, FAT (File Allocation Table), and all the files and data it refers to. Use this 
>program if you want to be sure your drive is clean."
> > 
> > So my question is, after running this program, can i easily boot up my pc 
>properly? as in, i load in my win98 setup disk? Or will it not load at all and i have 
>to fill up some other parameters?
> > 
> > Sean
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
> > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
> -- 
> Erik
> 
> Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org
> =
> 
> Bill who?  ...  Micro what?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 



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Re: [newbie]

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 2:46 pm, Ronnie Boyd wrote:
> Have run into a dead end with LinNeighborhood and don't know what I'm doing
> wrong.

Did you get Alan Shoemaker's post?  I think you would be well to try it.  In 
case you didn't, here is the important bit:

/quote

> instead, why not download and install the mdk9 rpm file
> from one of our 'contrib' mirror directories like the one
> below:
>
> http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/9.0/contrib/LinNe
>ighborhood-0.6.5-1mdk

whoops, sorry that wasn't quite the link :)

http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/9.0/contrib/RPMS/LinNeighborhood-0.6.5-1mdk.i586.html

/endquote

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RE: [newbie]

[Peter Stokes]

Hi Ronnie

The configure program cannot find a compiler in your PATH variable, so you
need to add to your PATH where the compiler is. You may not have gcc
installed, in which case you will have to install it.

Peter

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Sent: 28 November 2002 14:47
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie]


Have run into a dead end with LinNeighborhood and don't know what I'm doing
wrong.

Did the...tar -xjvf LinNeighborhood-0.6.5.tar.bz2

It creates the LinNeighborhood directory ok, but nothing else.
I'm not sure if executable should be installed at this time in
/usr/local/bin/
I try running ./configure, then make, then make INSTALL, but nothing
happens except:

[root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# ./configure
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... missing
checking for working autoconf... missing
checking for working automake... missing
checking for working autoheader... missing
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cl... no
configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# make
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# make install
make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.

What am I doing wrong? I have spent around 3 hours trying different
LinNeighborhood rpm's from different sites and the same thing happens at
the same stage, so I figure I must be doing something wrong.

Anyone know what it is? I really need LinNeighborhood set up.

Another thing too, supposedly LinNeighborhood shows up in Networking/other/
but on my menu there is no 'other'. Does that only appear if
LinNeighborhood is installed?

Advice much appreciated.

Ronnie





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[newbie]

[Ronnie Boyd]

Have run into a dead end with LinNeighborhood and don't know what I'm doing
wrong.

Did the...tar -xjvf LinNeighborhood-0.6.5.tar.bz2

It creates the LinNeighborhood directory ok, but nothing else.
I'm not sure if executable should be installed at this time in
/usr/local/bin/
I try running ./configure, then make, then make INSTALL, but nothing
happens except:

[root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# ./configure
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... missing
checking for working autoconf... missing
checking for working automake... missing
checking for working autoheader... missing
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cl... no
configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# make
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# make install
make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.

What am I doing wrong? I have spent around 3 hours trying different
LinNeighborhood rpm's from different sites and the same thing happens at
the same stage, so I figure I must be doing something wrong.

Anyone know what it is? I really need LinNeighborhood set up.

Another thing too, supposedly LinNeighborhood shows up in Networking/other/
but on my menu there is no 'other'. Does that only appear if
LinNeighborhood is installed?

Advice much appreciated.

Ronnie



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Re: [newbie] Technical drawing tools

[John Richard Smith]

Stephen Kuhn wrote:


On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 07:22, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Does anyone know of any good linux based technical drawing programmes.

regards,

John

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Are you talking about diagramming, or what actually?

 


Yes , Stephen,

Technical drawing on computer, you know round widgets and things.

I'm currently looking at gcad, which I take to mean Computer Aided Design.
and Dia, both look promissing, I found a help file for qcad , seems to
think you know quite a bit already, and the manual doesn't start to get
going for some depth, but I trying to make sense of it right now.

Dia seems to have a broken help file location so currently cannot make
head nor tail of it.I haven't drawn with computers before so this is all 
new.

I need to draw a plan, side, and end view of a device I'm giving to
a friend so he can make it for himself.

thanks.

John

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Re: [newbie] hdparm?

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 2:04 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 November 2002 16:31, Charlie wrote:
> > On November 27, 2002 01:26 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > I tried to remember how to use hdparm to examine drive settings.  I
> > > opened a root console, then typed hdparm - command not found.  I tried
> > > man hdparm - no manual entry for hdparm.
> > >
> > > Am I finally, totally over the top?  If that wasn't the command, what
> > > was?
> > >
> > > Anne
> >
> > Dunno but:
> >
> > [root@hxx-xx-xxx-xxx nanook]#locate hdparm
> > /usr/share/webmin/fdisk/apply_hdparm.cgi
> > /usr/share/webmin/fdisk/edit_hdparm.cgi
> > /etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/1hdparm
> > /etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/9hdparm
> > /etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/2hdparm
> >
> > Since I've never bothered with it on this old crate I can't help any
> > further. Sorry.
> >
> > Regards;
>
> It's supposed to be on install cd 1, with 8.2 powerpack anyway, but is not
> there, so it doesn't get installed.
> Dan

The text file is in /proc, and has all the info.  (Thanks, Stephen).

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Re: [newbie] hdparm?

[Daniel Anderson]

On Wednesday 27 November 2002 16:31, Charlie wrote:
> On November 27, 2002 01:26 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > I tried to remember how to use hdparm to examine drive settings.  I
> > opened a root console, then typed hdparm - command not found.  I tried
> > man hdparm - no manual entry for hdparm.
> >
> > Am I finally, totally over the top?  If that wasn't the command, what
> > was?
> >
> > Anne
>
> Dunno but:
>
> [root@hxx-xx-xxx-xxx nanook]#locate hdparm
> /usr/share/webmin/fdisk/apply_hdparm.cgi
> /usr/share/webmin/fdisk/edit_hdparm.cgi
> /etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/1hdparm
> /etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/9hdparm
> /etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/2hdparm
>
> Since I've never bothered with it on this old crate I can't help any
> further. Sorry.
>
> Regards;


It's supposed to be on install cd 1, with 8.2 powerpack anyway, but is not 
there, so it doesn't get installed.
Dan

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Re: [newbie] Linux and pre-schoolers

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 13:59, Todd Slater wrote:
> I have a 3 1/2 year old daughter who likes to type in OpenOffice, play
> with Tuxpaint and Stickers, and listen to some .wav's I captured from one
> of her favorite cartoons. I created an account for her, but never found a
> desktop/window manager I was happy with and that I was willing to turn
> her loose in.
> 
> I wanted something minimal but that would still support desktop icons. I
> didn't want a panel. I wanted a very fast window manager and file manager.
> And I wanted to make it as kidproof as possible.
> 
> Aren't you just dying to know what I've got her using?
> 
> I'm using ROX as her session manager and desktop. I run it using the
> pinboard (for desktop icons) but not the panel. I put icons to her
> favorite apps on the desktop. The file manager is obviously ROX--super
> fast. And the window manager is Oroborus
> (http://www.dreamind.de/oroborus.shtml)--very lightweight and easy to
> configure. The main reason I chose Oroborus was because it doesn't have
> any root menu, so clicking on the desktop does not bring up a menu of apps
> and options that I'd have to edit out by hand. Instead, clicking on the
> desktop gives a harmless ROX dialog.
> 
> You can see a screenshot here:
> http://clevername.homeip.net/gallery/screenshots/2002_11_26_21_06_50 . It
> shows the icons and a ROX-Filer inside the Oroborus window manager.
> 
> I can still do admin stuff if need be by opening her home directory in
> ROX; from there I can launch xterm. I'm pretty confident that she will not
> be able to mess anything up, but I'll let you know once we do some more
> testing!
> 
> Todd

Bravo! How well thought out mate!
BTW, what are you going to do when she understands that
CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE kills the desktop? Or when CTRL-ALT-F2 gives her a
black screen? (grin)

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[newbie] Sourceforge download sites

[John Richard Smith]

Is it correct, or my misassumption, that source forge sites do not support
resume of the download,  from where you were cut off, or is it M9.0 new
download manager that fails to keep a record of the download progess
and instists on starting all over again.

I tried long time ago using NT, or as it is now called d4x, with sourceforge
without success. I couldn't het the sourceforge url to be accepted.

John

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RE: [linux] [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4

[Richard Urwin]

> I'm trying to tar 8.4Gb to a NT4 machine. But tar stops at 2,097,153.
> Stating 'File size limit exceeded'.

2,097,153k is a signed long (32 bits) on an NT platform, so it's the
limit of lseek() which is the API a multi-platform tar would probably
use. 

The win32 API SetFilePointerEx() uses 64 bit integers.

Anyone fancy hacking tar?

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Subject: [linux] [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4


I'm trying to tar 8.4Gb to a NT4 machine. But tar stops at 2,097,153.
Stating 'File size limit exceeded'.

I know that the system partition for NT4 can't be bigger than 2G.

I'm Tar'ing to a 36G Raid drive.

I'm logging in as a superuser.

I know i have the option of taring to specific file sizes, but one big
file
would be better for me.

Anybody come across this before. I know its a NT problem because I've
tar'd
4.6G to another LM9 machine.

Many thanks

Mr Smiley.



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Re: [newbie] modem question

[Graham]

I convinced a friend of mine to try out mdk9 but she had an HSF modem 
and couldn't afford to replace it.  Googled the link to Marc Boucher's 
driver for the HSF moden I installed the driver and ran hsfconfig to 
set the country code etc but kpp could not find the device  . simple 
solution was to make a link in  /dev/  to ttySHSF0 and  run kpp again 
this worked like a charm...  Works really well and saves going to 
the added expense of buying a 'hardware' modem.
It's often difficult to convince people to try 'nix' if they have to 
spend money replacing hardware that works (tongue in cheek) with the 
offerings form M$. It was a useful exercise in demonstrating how 
flexible linux is and how you can do it yourself to fix problems.

Franki wrote:

Just download the driver for your kernel version..

http://www.mbsi.ca/cnxtlindrv/hsf/archive/hsflinmodem-5.03.03.L3mbsibeta0211
0300/hsflinmodem-5.03.03.L3mbsibeta02110300k2.4.19_16mdk-1mdk.i586.rpm

Then just install it..

rpm -ivh hsflinmodem-5.03.03.L3mbsibeta02110300k2.4.19_16mdk-1mdk.i586.rpm

it will do all the work for you from that point... then just run kppp to
detect modem or use wvdial whatever...
I have done it many times and it works great  Marc Boucher did some
fantastic work on those drivers.

good luck


rgds

Franki


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Subject: [newbie] modem question


Hi,

First off, I have absolutely no idea what I am doing.  I installed Mandrake
9.0, and it installed everything alright except I have no idea how to get my
modem to work.  So until then, I am back on this awful Microcrap XP.  I
would appreciate any help anyone could give me, and in as easy terms to
understand as possible, because all of the help pages I have seem to talk in
a language that is far above my head :0(

My modem is Conexant Softk56 PCI  so I gather I go here
http://www.mbsi.ca/cnxtlindrv/hsf/downloads-mdk-x86.html  and download
kernel version 2.4.19-16mdk (I gather) after that I have no idea what to do.
How do I install that?  I'm used to the simple and pleasurable clicking on
an upgrade in windows and letting it self install, but when I clicked on
this, it just asked me what to open it with, argh.

When I installed it, it would find that I had some other type of modem,
Eth(something) and would show I had an LAN whatever.  I have no idea what
any of that is.  Someone suggested I disable that then my modem will show
up, but as I don't know what it is and it all came with my computer, I have
no idea how to do that, so I'd rather stay away from that.

Anyway, if anyone can help me, I'd be very grateful

Thanks for you time
Take Care
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[newbie] connecting to the net?

[Richard J.]

I finally managed to get my modem to work, but when i click to connect to 
the internet, all I get is the dial tone, without it dialing my isp's phone 
number or anything, any ideas?  I have checked the settings for my isp and 
they are all correct.

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[newbie] IDE OPTI not compiled in on installation floppy boot

[Peter Stokes]

Hi All

I am trying to install 9 onto a HP Ominbook 5700CT. The floppy boots up to
the point where it tries to talk to the disk and I get the following error
message

OPTI621: Detected chipset but driver not compiled in!

It the proceeds to try to talk to the disk and hangs with the disk light
permanently lit when checking partition hda (the drive previously had an old
version of Linux on it which worked fine)

Is there an alternative boot floppy which may sort this out.

I did try installing 9 onto a Toshiba laptop which worked fine and moving
the disk across, this time the boot hang before much in the way of messages
were seen, but similar scenario with the disk light on permanently.

Thanks

Peter

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RE: [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4

[Tony S. Sykes]

Mr Smiley,

There is file size limitations on Windows. I am not to sure about NT4
but as you have the problem I guess it is. fat32 will not let you do a
file bigger then 2gb. Are you using fat32 on ntfs? I would hazard a
guess you are using fat32, if not the earlier versions of ntfs might not
have been able to do larger than 2gb. Wk2 ntfs can handle it. You will
be best checking the MS web for info on nt4 ntfs.

Tony.

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Subject: [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4


I'm trying to tar 8.4Gb to a NT4 machine. But tar stops at 2,097,153.
Stating 'File size limit exceeded'.

I know that the system partition for NT4 can't be bigger than 2G.

I'm Tar'ing to a 36G Raid drive.

I'm logging in as a superuser.

I know i have the option of taring to specific file sizes, but one big
file
would be better for me.

Anybody come across this before. I know its a NT problem because I've
tar'd
4.6G to another LM9 machine.

Many thanks

Mr Smiley.
  

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[newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4

[Ken Walker]

I'm trying to tar 8.4Gb to a NT4 machine. But tar stops at 2,097,153.
Stating 'File size limit exceeded'.

I know that the system partition for NT4 can't be bigger than 2G.

I'm Tar'ing to a 36G Raid drive.

I'm logging in as a superuser.

I know i have the option of taring to specific file sizes, but one big file
would be better for me.

Anybody come across this before. I know its a NT problem because I've tar'd
4.6G to another LM9 machine.

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Re: [newbie] Totally scunnered with MetaCity

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 5:32 am, Len Lawrence wrote:
>.  As you point out other distributions
> would also adopt Gnome 2 so there would be no advantage in switching
> loyalties.

Glad to see that those more knowledgeable are helping you to eradicate the 
problems.  Good luck

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Re: [newbie] Symbolic links

[robin]

John Richard Smith wrote:

How do you remove a symbolic link.

neither man ln, nor info ln , even mentions it.


I've always found rm works fine.  What you can't do is directly replace 
one symbolic link with another.

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[newbie] Gnome menu's gone West... help:-(

[Morgan Read]

I installed a programme recently, and noticed that the "GnoRPM" tool asked
me where to put a ".desktop" icon that turned out to put an icon in the
"main menu".

Frustrated at the clumsyness of the menu editors and intrigued that their
might be a process as straight forward as (and similar in simplicity to)
the mac's "apple menu" buried somewhere in the system, I went to
investigate...

So, I logged in as root and went sniffing around in
"usr/share/gnome/distribution-menus" and "usr/share/gnome/programs"...
And, now the "main menu" has disappeared!

No surprise to some I guess?  The only thing I changed was the "Gnome Color
Selector" that I opened in "gedit": changed the "comment [en_GB]" and "name
[en_GB]" to "Gnome Colour Selector" (fair enough, I thought...).  I opened
some other files with "gedit" just for a look, but closed them without
saving.

First, as I was browsing with "nautilus" in the "Programs" directory (I may
also have been browsing with gedit's file open dialogue) I noticed that all
the Mandrake menu's had gone (yup, I looked in
"usr/share/gnome/distribution-menus" before I looked in
"usr/share/gnome/programs").  Then, after I closed "nautilus" and "gedit"
and logged out of root and back into my account - holding my breath the
whole time - I found the whole "main menu" had gone.  I got an error
message that the "main menu" couldn't be found...

Any help with my "investigation" and putting the "main menu" back would be
really appreciated.

Thanks,
Morgan.
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Re: [newbie] Fonts

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 27 Nov 2002 11:54 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> Hi, all, I thought it would be a good idea to install the MS TTF fonts and
> give myself some more options. I was more than satisfied with the default
> fonts but being the perpetual tinkerer I had to do it. Now the problem is I
> don't have the original sets, like the helvetica family is missing and some
> others. Anyone know how to get them back into the mix? I have looked at
> /etc/fonts/fonts.gonf and don't see anything to change  to get them back.
> Help is appreciated.

Dennis - I'm surprised at this.  Helvetica is still on my list on OpenOffice.  
Are you sure they've disappeared, or is it one application in particular that 
can't see them?

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RE: [newbie] Locate utility problem on mndrke 9.0

[Franki]

locate should find them, but locate is updated via cron..

you need to do it manually first..

undatedb

In a console should do it.

then try locate again.

rgds

Frank

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Hello All,

I have 9.0 Mandrake installed. I successfully compiled the application on
8.2. I have noticed problems while compiling on 9.0.

I am getting compilation errors because somehow the compiler cannot find
standard librarires. I have checked for there installation and it is fine.

For Example:
On 9.0 : The locate utility cannot show all the iostream.h versions although
they do exist in 3 places. Moreover it was showing an entry
only in one directory. I was of the idea that locate should be able
to show all files with "iostream.h" in there string.

On 8.2: it works fine. is there a glitch or am I missing something.

Because of this I cannot compile my code. Seems like the system is not able
to pickup the correct header files.

Please advise
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Re: [newbie] Problems getting bzip2 to work......

[Ronnie Boyd]

Thanks! The j switch did the job and unzipped the bz2 file, creating the
LinNeighborhood directory without problem.

However, when I then try the following commands, I get error messages

./configure
make
make install

[root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# ./configure
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... missing
checking for working autoconf... missing
checking for working automake... missing
checking for working autoheader... missing
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cl... no
configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# make
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[root@derfel LinNeighborhood-0.6.5]# make install
make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.

Any advice?

Out of curiosity, what is the LinNeighborhood executable called, I'm
guessing (bravely enough) that it's Linneighborhood dot something?
I think I read that it should be in /usr/local/bin, though there's nothing
at all in that directory.

Thanks to all who gave me advice, it was and is greatly appreciated.

Ronnie



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The page details how to uncompress the files if they are in ".tar.gz"
format -- going through the options for tar:

x - extract
z - unzip (via gzip / gunzip)
v - verbose
f - use file following this flag

To unbzip2 a compressed file, you'll have to do:

x - extract
j - unbzip2 (for newer, 8.0 and above releases)
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(so that command would be "tar -xjvf Linneighborhood-0.6.5.tar.bz2" without
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At 08:24 AM 11/28/2002 +, you wrote:
>Hello there. I am a long term Windows user/tech support person who has
>recently installed Mandrake Linux, partly out of curiosity, partly because
>I feel it's the coming thing. I managed to install it, get it on our
>training LAN, mount drives and what not without any bother, but I've run
>into a spot of trouble trying to set up LinNeighborhood. Now, I downloaded
>the LinNeighborhood rpm, and it seemed to install ok, leaving me with some
>entries at the root. I found a web page detailing what must be done to
>properly unzip and install the Linneighborhood-0.6.5.tar.bz2 file, which
>is:
>
>tar -xzvf LinNeighborhood-0.6.5.tar.gz
>cd LinNeighborhood-0.6.5
>./configure
>make
>make install
>
>The problem is that when I enter the first line I get a 'not in gzip
>format'  message. I figured, ok then, I'll install bzip2. This is where
>I've ground to a halt. I installed bzip2 from files from a webpage,
>couldn't get it to work. Then tried to install bzip2 from the Mandrake cd,
>it reported that bzip2 was already installed. I changed the 'file
>associations' to point any .gz or bz or bz2 files towards the bzip2 app,
>but still no joy.
>
>Where am I going wrong? Why is it that bzip2 doesn't appear anywhere on
the
>start menu, or why is it that if I create a desktop link to
/usr/bin/bzip2,
>nothing happens when I click on it? And if bzip2 really is installed, why
>can't I get past the 'not in gzip format' bit. Why doesn't bzip2 unzip the
>file instead of gzip refusing to?
>
>I installed Mandrake Linux 9.0 for the first time 10 days ago. I'm using
>the KDE gui. The pc is a Compaq EVO P4, with 256mb ram.
>
>Please help a Linux novice out?
>
>All the best
>
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>
>
>
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Re: [newbie] Technical drawing tools

[John Richard Smith]

Miark wrote:


dia


On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 20:22:52 +
John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

Does anyone know of any good linux based technical drawing programmes.

regards,

John

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Thanks Miark,

I will check it out, have downloaded a tat ball,
now looking to see if we have an rpm vesion

Is there a possibility of a nice little pdf file manual , do you know.

John

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[newbie] Symbolic links

[John Richard Smith]

How do you remove a symbolic link.

neither man ln, nor info ln , even mentions it.

John

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