Re: [newbie] Sort of OT - language

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 18:01, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote:
> On Qui 09 Jan 2003 15:40, Anne Wilson wrote:(down there!)
> 
> Just another view. From a Brazilian English Teacher.
> English is a very easy language when compared to other Indo-European Language!
> Of course, we have the multiple meaning set to a single word but, that happens 
> on other languages as well maybe not THAT much.
> 
> Portuguese, German and Languages from the former Soviet Union have a quite 
> complex grammar when compared to English.
> 
> But from my professional experience, as Human Resouces Officer, British people 
> DO learn Portuguese much faster than Brazilian people take to LEARN English.
> Unfortunately, I haven't see a single american learning Portuguese faster than 
> British people.
> 
> Talking about cultures Do you know any other country with such a 
> multi-racial mix as Brazil?
> 
> In the USA, they live together but, apartthey don't mix like here!
> This pluri-cultural background makes it easy for us to relate and learn any 
> other culture.
> 
> As mentioned on an USA magazine:"Brazil is a multi-racial melting pot"
> 
> Maybe that's true but just come to our beaches (in the summer) and you will 
> see what I mean. Don't forget sunscreen you will need it!

> Ricardo

After being raised in Detroit, Michigan, and living in quite a few
states throughout my life, now in Australia - I have to say that
Australia is quite a strange mix. Here, you can openly make racial jokes
and take racial jokes from other cultures - AND IN GOOD HUMOR (oops -
wrong spelling). I ran an IT department up in Sydney and we had "the
mix" there - but we hung together as a team, and it was fun for the guys
to "stick it to the yank" quite often - and me being a joker anyways, it
was a great social learning experience - one that shall rank forever in
my life.

I was amazed at the diversity here - especially amongst the migrants
from Asia - even though there exists a cultural "grouping"
geographically, it's quite open and quite lax.

I never knew what "melting pot" truly meant - especially with my
background - but now I do - and maybe Brazil is as well - but this is
where I'm staying!

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Re: [newbie] Sort of OT - language

2003-01-09 Thread Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas
On Qui 09 Jan 2003 15:40, Anne Wilson wrote:(down there!)

Just another view. From a Brazilian English Teacher.
English is a very easy language when compared to other Indo-European Language!
Of course, we have the multiple meaning set to a single word but, that happens 
on other languages as well maybe not THAT much.

Portuguese, German and Languages from the former Soviet Union have a quite 
complex grammar when compared to English.

But from my professional experience, as Human Resouces Officer, British people 
DO learn Portuguese much faster than Brazilian people take to LEARN English.
Unfortunately, I haven't see a single american learning Portuguese faster than 
British people.

Talking about cultures Do you know any other country with such a 
multi-racial mix as Brazil?

In the USA, they live together but, apartthey don't mix like here!
This pluri-cultural background makes it easy for us to relate and learn any 
other culture.

As mentioned on an USA magazine:"Brazil is a multi-racial melting pot"

Maybe that's true but just come to our beaches (in the summer) and you will 
see what I mean. Don't forget sunscreen you will need it!


> On Thursday 09 Jan 2003 3:01 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > on the contrary, english does have grammer, syntax and a
> > recognized structure; it`s simply that wiht the vast mixture we
> > ahve from so many cultures, many don`t learn the "proper" way to
> > use english or they consciously revamp it, making some form of it
> > thier own.  i may be wrong having never loooked into it, but i
> > believe the U.S. is one of the most diverse nations culturally,
> > making a consistency in anything harder than many cultures must
> > deal with.  that said, it would still be nice if those who grow
> > up with english would/could learn its proper usage before
> > savaging it beyond recognition.  my final .02 worth.

The strongest influence I see is from "ebonics" and from rock'n'roll 
singers!!!

> I read somewhere that although we (British) complain loudly about American
> spelling etc., the truth is that their language is more pure than ours.  In
> fact theirs has changed relatively little since Pilgrim Fathers, whereas
> ours has changed a lot.
> Anne

British people accept "foreign" words easily! Americans don't! Their are far 
more conservative. That might explain how "pure" they keep their language!

Can you imagine us Non Native English Speakers having to select a "language" 
in a word processor? For a spell checker?
US? UK? Canadian? South African? Australian?
Caribean? And so on...

Ricardo

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Re: [newbie] Re: U.S. politics in Linux?

2003-01-09 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 08:24, Robin Turner wrote:
> Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> 
> > Guess I'll be seeing youse guys on the battlefield.  ;)
> 
> Come and visit us in Ankara - we're within Scud range!
> 
> Sir Robin
> 

Have you got some plate armor in my size?  ;)

If I had to pick a place in the main conflict, it would probably be in
Turkey.  I understand that you guys have some of the best military
forces in the world; on a par with the Israelis.  They speak very highly
of you.

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> doing it."
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> 
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> Ankara 06533
> Turkey
> 
> www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin
 

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Re: [newbie] CD

2003-01-09 Thread Gil Katz
Ok
now i see that this is worst
i canṫ see anything in the cd even data cdś
Gil
On Thursday 09 January 2003 19:46, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 09 Jan 2003 5:21 pm, Gil Katz wrote:
> > Hi
> > When i enter a music cd into the cdrom i get no cd loaded
> > or when i try to browse the cd from mnt i get premission denied
> > ( i root)
> > what should i do?
> > Thanks
> > Gil
>
> Audio cds are not browsed.  You need to open a cdplayer.  XMMS is very
> good, though some people need help changing a plugin to make it work on
> their system.  Try it.  If it doesn't play your cds, go to Derek's linux
> page
>
> www.jennings.homelinux.net
>
> and read the section there.  One warning, though, the article implies that
> it only is needed if you have no audio cable attached.  This is not so. 
> For some of us the cable may be there and still need this fix.
>
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Re: [newbie] Filter to /dev/null

2003-01-09 Thread Adolfo Bello

> Actually, it only seems like it. I think the Koreans enjoy spamming - or
> else they're naive enough to get caught into those "Make millions
> overnight" scams...they even make it into the Sawfish mailing lists -
> dig that - BUT, I'm safe...I've got a great /etc/procmailrc that I've
> continued to build upon for quite some time...so it's doing it's job and
> sending spam either to /dev/null or to a bastard in Nebraska who was
> fool enough to muck with me on a very important list a few months
> back...(IF his account is still active...)
LOL

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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 update on install CDs?

2003-01-09 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 22:40, A. Contreras wrote:
> Maar je praat zo goed engels! Je hoeft niet de Nederlandse versie te
> installeren!
> 
> A. Contreras

Estoy 100% de acuerdo con esto

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Re: [newbie] ximian red carpet

2003-01-09 Thread Adolfo Bello
> > I tried it back when I had Mandrake 8.2, and at first it was ok, till I
> > noticed it completely wiped out the stock menu entries for Gnome.  At
> > the time there wasn't a fix for it, so I did a complete reinstall to get
> > rid of it.
> >
> > Things may have changed since then.  I for one will never give it
> > another shot.
> >
> > Good Luck
> > Steve
> 
>   Hola, Steve. The same problem --and experience-- here. No more 'ximian red 
> carpet' for me. Just urpmi.


Well, I have had no problem using Red Carpet,

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Re: [newbie] Filter to /dev/null

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 15:46, Adolfo Bello wrote:
> > When I was a child, my parents got Spam from the store.
> > Now that I'm an adult, I get Spam from Korea, China, Russia, Germany,
> > France, South America, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Italy, Turkey (heaps
> > there), Greece, Portugal, Lebanon, Korea, Korea, India, Korea...(g)
> 
> Are you being triple spammed from Korea? Wow!! :-)
> 
> Adolfo

Actually, it only seems like it. I think the Koreans enjoy spamming - or
else they're naive enough to get caught into those "Make millions
overnight" scams...they even make it into the Sawfish mailing lists -
dig that - BUT, I'm safe...I've got a great /etc/procmailrc that I've
continued to build upon for quite some time...so it's doing it's job and
sending spam either to /dev/null or to a bastard in Nebraska who was
fool enough to muck with me on a very important list a few months
back...(IF his account is still active...)

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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice 1.0.1 menu items gone

2003-01-09 Thread Joeb
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:02:16 -0500
"Chad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've searched with Google and through the Newbie/Expert archives for this,
> but to no avail.
> 
> On my parents stock LM 9.0 install, OpenOffice installed just fine and ran
> great for a while.  Now, when any user logs in at the desktop and starts up
> any OO application, the "File", "Edit", "Format", etc. menus are all gone.
> There is a space for them and the drop down menus still work, there are just
> no words in them.  It's tough to explain, so I took a screenshot with Gimp
> and posted it on my web site here:
> 
>   http://dilbert.dnsalias.com/graphix/oo_menu_gone.jpg
> 
> Now, I also use VNC to admin it remotely (from my bedroom to the family
> room).  When I start a VNC server (vncserver :5 -geometry 1024x768 -depth
> 16) and access the machine that way, I can start OO and the menus display
> fine.
> 
> The only difference that I see is when using VNC, it's using VNC's X11
> server instead of XFree86.  The resolution is also different.  My parents
> use 800x600, depth 16.
> 
> The things that I have tried are as follows:
> 
> 1. When the problem first appeared, I shut down OO, logged out, restarted
> the X server, logged back in
> 2. Tried restarting the dm service
> 3. Tried removing the .openoffice directory from users home dir, then
> running OO
> 4. Tried rebooting the PC (years worth of Windows training taking over)
> 5. Tried removing the whole OO package, rebooting, re-installing
> 
> None of the above have worked thus far.  I have some more ideas to try, but
> they are fairly in-depth.  No other application has this problem.  I'm about
> ready to wipe & re-install.  I have /home separate, so it won't be a real
> big deal.  Just the time to do it.  I would however like to find a solution
> to the problem.  I hate giving up and doing a re-install.
> 
> I have been performing weekly updates through MDK Update.  Any bug fixes,
> security patches & normal upgrades I automatically download.  One of those
> might have been the culprit.
> 
> The specs on the machine are: Compaq Deskpro, 233 MHz, 192 MB, 3.2 GB, S3
> Trio 64V2/DX (built-in) and Intel 82559 Ethernet (built-in).  If anybody
> needs any other hardware specs, let me know.
> 
> Anybody run into something like this before?  Any solutions would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 
> Chad
> 

 
There was a thread about this in the December archives, but in short here are a few 
things to try.

First, if you installed any version of freetype2 other than what came with Mandrake, 
you will need to uninstall it and reinstall the original.  It seems that the later 
versions of freetype2 are broken.

If that's not the case (or even if it is), you might try editing 
/etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf and change the line that UI_FONT="AUTO" to something 
like UI_FONT="Verdana" or something like that.  You may also have to change the 
FONT_SCALING setting, too.  If the UI_FONT isn't set to "AUTO", you might try setting 
it as such.


If neither of those work, you might check out www.ooodocs.org and see if anyone there 
can help.

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Re: [newbie] no OpenOffice.org fonts on menus (at all)

2003-01-09 Thread ThinKer
1. Get to a shell, become root, and type the following...

 /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf

2. Edit the UI_FONT="AUTO" replace "AUTO" with "Arial" or whatever other
font you have and want to use.

3. Save, close, and open OOOWriter. You should have menus.

There, and no cast members were killed off in the typing of this email.

-TP 



On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 20:36, Azrael wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 01:30, ThinKer wrote:
> > OK.. I see how this works. Star Trek Nemesis and US Foreign Policy get
> > all the replies and attention. Meanwhile, I ask a question that is very
> > much on topic(that yes, someone else has asked before but as I see it in
> 
> Twas me that asked.. and I am still in the dark..
> 
> > the archives, they didn't get an answer either) and I get banished to
> > search the archives? 
> > 
> > Thats it. I am on my way to the
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] list so I can
> > get some help on fixing my OOOWriter.
> 
> If you get your answer there, will you let me know?
> This problem is frustrating me..
> 
> > TP 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 18:40, Robin Turner wrote:
> > > ThinKer wrote:
> > > > Hello, 
> > > > 
> > > >  I recently decided to give openoffice.org a try for the first time to
> > > > create a .doc file for a proposal. When I clicked on the openoffice.org
> > > > writer link to application, the program appeared to start fine, but once
> > > > it opened up I noticed that there is no text on any of the menus in both
> > > > the opening dialog box and on the menus for the program. 
> > > > 
> > > > 1. How can I fix this, or should I go to the site and download and
> > > > install the program from scratch?
> > > > 
> > > > 2. Is there another program for creating and manipulating M$ Office
> > > > related documents and presentations?
> > > 
> > > This looks like the notorious OpenOffice fonts problem that came up on 
> > > this list earlier. Check the archives, and good luck!
> > > 
> > > Sir Robin
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > __
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[newbie] Printing - how quaint!

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
Just wanted to relay this experience to y'all as it made me so warm and
fuzzy inside...

Mate of mine gave me an HP Deskjet 656c USB printer in lieu of some work
that got done for him...SO, being that the wife-unit already has a Canon
BJC-265SP on her boxen, and I've got a useless LexMark dj 5000 sitting
and collecting dust and Christmas beetles, and I HATE printing via Samba
to her boxen, I just plugged in the little USB plug, put some paper in
the nice new printer, checked the new ink carts, powered on the little
bugger...listened to the nice whirs and clicks, fired up Webmin, went to
hardware, chose printers, added the printer pretty-as-you-please, saved
the configuration, then fired up the KDE Control Panel, went to SYSTEM \
PRINTER ADMINISTRATION, set the newly setup printer as USER DEFAULT,
clicked TEST PRINTER and WHAM! Printing! - all told - 3 minutes. No
disks, drivers, swearing and cursing, consulting cryptic usenet groups -
nada.

Shit - WindowsXP/2k have never been THAT nice...

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Re: [newbie] MySQL users DB corrupted

2003-01-09 Thread Adolfo Bello
On TIf there is no other solution, is it possible to import the existing
> > database I have (used for inventory purposes) into a fresh mysql install? I
> > cant export anything, and the database files are basically flat files at
> > this point... A good web resource would also be appreciated!
> > any help would be appreciated.

Have you tried mysqldump?

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Re: [newbie] ximian red carpet

2003-01-09 Thread Pilagá
El Vie 10 Ene 2003 00:50, Steve Jeppesen escribió:
> I tried it back when I had Mandrake 8.2, and at first it was ok, till I
> noticed it completely wiped out the stock menu entries for Gnome.  At
> the time there wasn't a fix for it, so I did a complete reinstall to get
> rid of it.
>
> Things may have changed since then.  I for one will never give it
> another shot.
>
> Good Luck
> Steve

Hola, Steve. The same problem --and experience-- here. No more 'ximian red 
carpet' for me. Just urpmi.

Saludos.
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Re: [newbie] Filter to /dev/null

2003-01-09 Thread Adolfo Bello
> When I was a child, my parents got Spam from the store.
> Now that I'm an adult, I get Spam from Korea, China, Russia, Germany,
> France, South America, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Italy, Turkey (heaps
> there), Greece, Portugal, Lebanon, Korea, Korea, India, Korea...(g)

Are you being triple spammed from Korea? Wow!! :-)

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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice 1.0.1 menu items gone

2003-01-09 Thread Damian Gatabria
On Friday 10 January 2003 04:02, Chad wrote:
> I've searched with Google and through the Newbie/Expert archives for this,
> but to no avail.

OK this is seemingly starting to be a FAQ.

this problem appears whenever you update your QT/XFT/Freetype
libs. OO cannot work properly with the newer versions. This results
in text sized 8pt and lower not to be rendered in OpenOffice. the
menus/toolbars/dialogs in OO are all size 8, so there ya go.

This is a workaround to make the fonts come back, but it may
or may not work for you. Feel free to try it out.

1) Open up oowriter

2) Go, in the main menu (that would be the one containing 
File, Edit and so on), to the 6th menu.

3) Select the last option in that menu.

4) a small window will pop up, containing a column of  "+" signs
on the left. Those are the "trees" or sections for the different options in
OO.

5) Expand the first tree by clicking on the "+" at the top. (this may
already be open and you would see a "-" at the top. If so, proceed.)

6) You will now see the "branches" of that first tree. Select the 9th 
 branch.

7) you will now see, on the right hand of this window, a checkbox
at the top, below the checkbox you will see two dropdown listboxes,
and a big listbox taking up the rest of the space. at the right of the
two drop-down listboxes, you will see two buttons, one with a tick,
and the other one with a cross on them.

8)The bis listbox has one line in it (of course you cannot read it). But
you can see two empty squares on that line. Select this line by clicking
on it.

9) the empty sqares un that line are checkboxes. Check them both.

10)also check the first checkbox at the top of this pane.

11) Go to the drop-down listbox on the right (the one closer to
the buttons with the tick and the cross) and type the word Lucida
on it. 

12) Click the button with the green tick.

13) below the big listbox there are four big buttons. Click the first
one (the one at the left).

14) Cross your fingers.


HTH

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Re: [newbie] Sort of OT - language

2003-01-09 Thread Adolfo Bello
> EN is most widely&effectively speaking language of the world, Chinese is another 
>case.
> 
I agree with widely, not with effectively.

Greeks and latin were the "most widely & effectively" speaking languages
of the world, until the empires that spoke those languages fell down.

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Re: [newbie] ximian red carpet

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 15:10, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
> On 10 Jan 2003 14:53:41 +1100
> Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Being that the Mandrake menu system - for all WM's installed -
> > excluding XFCE - are all attempting to make it so that you don't have
> > to edit menus, you MAY loose something there - but editing a menu
> > ain't all that hard, is it guys?
> 
> One or two, maybe 10 menu entries I can handle, but it wiped out
> everything and replaced them with what it thought was supposed to be
> there.
> 
> I completely changed over to Fluxbox and Roxfiler now so I wouldn't
> attempt it anyways.

In all honesty, I really hate the Mandrake menus - last install I did, I
spent nearly two hours going through the menus for KDE, Gnome2,
Enlightenment and WindowMaker to put them the way **I** like 'em -
short, simple and to the point.

Granted that a "noob" would want to see something more "Windows-ish",
but for me, I can't stand all that clutter and wasted entry space.

Even moreso, when I'm "really being productive" I sometimes do not use a
window manager at all - nada - nothing. At those times I fire up
Openwindows - lean, mean and ready for biz...and sometimes even less - I
don't use a graphical system at all - just CTL-ALT-F1 through F10 - that
gives me enough terms to live with...

...but overall, "noobs" like heaps of completely unnecessary and
unwanted menu entries to "oogle" at - until they find Xterm and find out
what doing "ls -CFa /usr/bin" is like - then "menus be damned" - (g).

Once I get my voice recognition stuff working here, I might just chuck
away the keyboard and mse altogether - save a few extra address
spaces and IRQ's to use for something better - like a USB self-powered
tie-clasp temperature monitor, or a self-monitoring electronic goldfish
bowl...
 
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You swing at the Sun.  You miss.  The Sun swings.  He hits you with a
575MB disk!  You read the 575MB disk.  It is written in an alien
tongue and cannot be read by your tired Sun-2 eyes.  You throw the
575MB disk at the Sun.  You hit!  The Sun must repair your eyes.  The
Sun reads a scroll.  He hits your 130MB disk!  He has defeated the
130MB disk!  The Sun reads a scroll.  He hits your Ethernet board!  He
has defeated your Ethernet board!  You read a scroll of "postpone until
Monday at 9 AM".  Everything goes dark...
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Re: [newbie] ximian red carpet

2003-01-09 Thread Steve Jeppesen
On 10 Jan 2003 14:53:41 +1100
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Being that the Mandrake menu system - for all WM's installed -
> excluding XFCE - are all attempting to make it so that you don't have
> to edit menus, you MAY loose something there - but editing a menu
> ain't all that hard, is it guys?

One or two, maybe 10 menu entries I can handle, but it wiped out
everything and replaced them with what it thought was supposed to be
there.

I completely changed over to Fluxbox and Roxfiler now so I wouldn't
attempt it anyways.

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Re: [newbie] Removable media problem

2003-01-09 Thread Roland Hughes
Thank you very much I am bring it down now, can hardly wait.
Thanks again.
Roly

On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 21:00, Pilagá wrote:
> El Jue 09 Ene 2003 19:40, Roland Hughes escribió:
> > happier, all I have left now is to figure out how to setup the decss for
> > xine and the I will be in heaven.
> > Thanks again.
> > Roly
> 
>   'xine_d4d_plugin' Just go for it, and all others xines rpms.
>   http://plf.zarb.org/
> 
>   Suerte.
>   Pilagá
> 
> 
> name: xine_d4d_plugin
> sumary: XINE - d4d plugin (CSS support)
> version: 0.3.2-2plf
> size: 71640
> description:
> Using this plugin, you are able to view all of your encrypted and locked dvds 
> without even noticing that someone tried real hard to keep you from doing 
> so... finally dvd playback really comes to linux. -- Author: Plitsch-Platsch 
> distribución: Mandrake Linux
> vendor: Penguin Liberation Front
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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[newbie] OpenOffice 1.0.1 menu items gone

2003-01-09 Thread Chad
I've searched with Google and through the Newbie/Expert archives for this,
but to no avail.

On my parents stock LM 9.0 install, OpenOffice installed just fine and ran
great for a while.  Now, when any user logs in at the desktop and starts up
any OO application, the "File", "Edit", "Format", etc. menus are all gone.
There is a space for them and the drop down menus still work, there are just
no words in them.  It's tough to explain, so I took a screenshot with Gimp
and posted it on my web site here:

  http://dilbert.dnsalias.com/graphix/oo_menu_gone.jpg

Now, I also use VNC to admin it remotely (from my bedroom to the family
room).  When I start a VNC server (vncserver :5 -geometry 1024x768 -depth
16) and access the machine that way, I can start OO and the menus display
fine.

The only difference that I see is when using VNC, it's using VNC's X11
server instead of XFree86.  The resolution is also different.  My parents
use 800x600, depth 16.

The things that I have tried are as follows:

1. When the problem first appeared, I shut down OO, logged out, restarted
the X server, logged back in
2. Tried restarting the dm service
3. Tried removing the .openoffice directory from users home dir, then
running OO
4. Tried rebooting the PC (years worth of Windows training taking over)
5. Tried removing the whole OO package, rebooting, re-installing

None of the above have worked thus far.  I have some more ideas to try, but
they are fairly in-depth.  No other application has this problem.  I'm about
ready to wipe & re-install.  I have /home separate, so it won't be a real
big deal.  Just the time to do it.  I would however like to find a solution
to the problem.  I hate giving up and doing a re-install.

I have been performing weekly updates through MDK Update.  Any bug fixes,
security patches & normal upgrades I automatically download.  One of those
might have been the culprit.

The specs on the machine are: Compaq Deskpro, 233 MHz, 192 MB, 3.2 GB, S3
Trio 64V2/DX (built-in) and Intel 82559 Ethernet (built-in).  If anybody
needs any other hardware specs, let me know.

Anybody run into something like this before?  Any solutions would be greatly
appreciated.

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RE: [newbie] Linux Hardware Database

2003-01-09 Thread Jim Hubbard
I visited the zdnet hardware database at http://lhd.zdnet.com/ around
Christmas and found that it had been hacked.  Instead of the very helpful
database (which I referred to a lot), there was a pic of a mostly nekkid
lady plus the usual "w3 r l33t h@x0rz" language below it.  Afterwards, the
site seemed to go back and forth for a while between being completely down
and being just a blank page, and now seems to be just plain gone.

If the site was actually hosted on a MS server then perhaps it was just
poetic justice, but if it was a Linux server... :(

Try http://www.linuxhardware.org/.  Content is a little lean right now, but
hopefully it will get better.  And of course Mandrake, Redhat, and Suse each
maintain their own hardware compatability lists.


Sincerely,
Jim Hubbard

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carroll Grigsby
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:13 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Hardware Database
>
>
> Sridhar:
> Are you aware of another Linux HCL? I sometimes refer to the
> Mandrake list,
> but sometimes its a good idea to get a second opinion.
> -- cmg
>
> On Thursday 09 January 2003 08:42 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> > Microsoft Apologist (and ZDNet editor) David Berlind took it
> down a while
> > ago.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:33:58 +1300, Michael Adams
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Has the ZDNet database moved or is it just down for two days now?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael
>
>
>



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Re: [newbie] ximian red carpet

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 14:50, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
> I tried it back when I had Mandrake 8.2, and at first it was ok, till I
> noticed it completely wiped out the stock menu entries for Gnome.  At
> the time there wasn't a fix for it, so I did a complete reinstall to get
> rid of it.
> 
> Things may have changed since then.  I for one will never give it
> another shot.
> 
> Good Luck
> Steve

Being that the Mandrake menu system - for all WM's installed - excluding
XFCE - are all attempting to make it so that you don't have to edit
menus, you MAY loose something there - but editing a menu ain't all that
hard, is it guys?

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Re: [newbie] getpix update

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 13:32, Todd Franklin wrote:
> I 4th it?
> 
I'll 5th it! (not of Scotch, though - Beethoven!)
> >   
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Re: [newbie] ximian red carpet

2003-01-09 Thread Steve Jeppesen
I tried it back when I had Mandrake 8.2, and at first it was ok, till I
noticed it completely wiped out the stock menu entries for Gnome.  At
the time there wasn't a fix for it, so I did a complete reinstall to get
rid of it.

Things may have changed since then.  I for one will never give it
another shot.

Good Luck
Steve

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:29:11 -
Aurélio Diniz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Have anyone use this? 
> It is worth downloading?
> Does it play well with mandrake9?
> 
> cheers,
> 
> filipe
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [newbie] OT-but it realy nice

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 13:27, yankl wrote:
> Today at my job I was saved by the LINUX BOX. My GM recived file that was 
> urgent to her. She have XP box with latest M$ blowfice on it. All update and 
> filters included. She could not open the file so here comes "Tiny IT Guy". 
> After several atempts with OfficeXP,WP, and OpenOffice for win to open the 
> file I copied it to ML9 box in atemps to extract text from the file. I 
> acedently clicked on it and to my surprize the  Kword open it with all 
> formating and everything including pictures. 
> 
> So I was saved by the KWord, I gess. I have not track down what software was 
> used to create this file. 
> 
> 
> Tiny It Guy.
> Yankl

Hehehe...awesome! Now you can ask her for a brand new P4 or AMD XP w/
512mb of RAM, 4 x 10k RPM SCSI drives, a SCSI DVD/CDRW, cool sound card,
128mb ATI Radeon (or GeForce), a Logitech wireless key/mouse and a
brandy new 19" .21dp monitor!

(Or rather, maybe you can convert her to linux w/ Star
Office/KOffice/OpenOffice)

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parts, one of the bassists always passed a bottle of scotch around.  So,
to remind himself that the basses usually required an extra cue towards the
end of the symphony, the conductor would fasten a piece of string around the
page of the score before the bass cue.  As the basses grew more and more
inebriated, two of them fell asleep.  The conductor grew quite nervous (he
was very concerned about the pitch) because it was the bottom of the ninth;
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Re: [newbie] Altering an interrupt

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 12:39, Michael Adams wrote:
> Here is my "cat /proc/interrupts"
> ++
>CPU0   
>   0:8685870  XT-PIC  timer
>   1:  34263  XT-PIC  keyboard
>   2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
>   3: 465097  XT-PIC  serial
>   8:  1  XT-PIC  rtc
>  10:  16171  XT-PIC  usb-uhci, usb-uhci, VIA 82C686A, eth0
>  12: 223692  XT-PIC  PS/2 Mouse
>  14:  41130  XT-PIC  ide0
>  15: 13  XT-PIC  ide1
> NMI:  0 
> LOC:  0 
> ERR:  0
> MIS:  0
> ++
> 
> Is it possible to move eth0 to one of the free ones or not. A pointer to a 
> HOWTO or Manual would be fine.
> 
> TIA

You should be able to directly alter the eth0's IRQ via the module
options parameters. What kind of ethernet card is it?

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Re: [newbie] no OpenOffice.org fonts on menus (at all)

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 12:30, ThinKer wrote:
> OK.. I see how this works. Star Trek Nemesis and US Foreign Policy get
> all the replies and attention. Meanwhile, I ask a question that is very
> much on topic(that yes, someone else has asked before but as I see it in
> the archives, they didn't get an answer either) and I get banished to
> search the archives? 
> 
> Thats it. I am on my way to the
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] list so I can
> get some help on fixing my OOOWriter.

Personally I'd suggest loading all your TTF Windows fonts via the KDE
Control Center - mine worked like a charm after I had a bit of a snag
with it...

KDE allows you to load all your TTF fonts - so if  you're dual booting
and have access to your Windows partition, it's rather easy to do - if
not, well, you can download different TTF font packages and do basically
the same thing...

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Re: [newbie] ximian red carpet

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 12:29, Aurélio Diniz wrote:
> Have anyone use this? 
> It is worth downloading?
> Does it play well with mandrake9?
> 
> cheers,
> 
> filipe
> 

Being that RedHat and Mandrake are RATHER similar, you may be able to
use it for SOME applications that are RPM based, but keep in mind that
there is a structural difference between the two and anything that is
based as such could suffer. You should be able to update your Gnome and
Evolution without a hitch, though - as well as getting things from
Codeweavers (WINE) and Opera and OpenOffice...

I think it IS worth the little download of a few megs...

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Re: [newbie] mdk 9 slow on 3d games

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 12:13, Aurélio Diniz wrote:
> I was never a gaming fan but i enjoy a good game from time to time.
> Believe it or not, i've only recently tested running tuxracer and i couldn't
> play it!
> First, the window of the game was not centered to the monitor (not even
> close!) and the game was terrible slow! I thought that it was only a problem
> with tuxracer but later i installed cube (following an advice of stephen)
> and the same thing happen.
> What can i do? Install a new graphic card driver? (how?)
> 
> My card is a Guillemot Gamer M64 with 32mb (shouldn't this be enough to run
> these games)
> 
> I apreciate any help,
> 
> Filipe Dinis
> 
> p.s. - thanks for all the people in the list. I've learned a lot about linux
> with all of you!
> p.s.2 - sorry for my bad english
> 

I would venture to say that it's the graphics card, mate. If you went
with the "default" drivers, which I presume you did, then you're going
to be suffering. If you can find either a driver that more closely
matches your graphics card, you'll be able to make more full use of the
RAM onboard as well as the processing on the graphics card.

Do  you happen to know if it's the one that has the NVidia chipset
onboard? Because if so, then you should be able to use the basic Nvidia
driver - I wasn't able to locate a Guillemot driver for linux...


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Re: [newbie] Selective download of mail/filtering on server

2003-01-09 Thread Steve Jeppesen
Dunno where I'd be without ya Todd!

Am filing this away as a keeper!  Thanks for finding this out, I too am
using the same version of Sylpheed.

Steve

On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 21:45:52 -0500
Todd Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I lost the thread where this was being discussed, but I was poking
> around Sylpheed because I was pretty sure that it can do just about
> everything(and fast).
> 
> S, under Configuration > Preferences for Current Account (assuming
> it's POP or IMAP), you have these options:
> Remove messages on server when received
>   Remove after _ days
> Download all messages on server
> Use filtering rules with Selective Download
> Remove mail after downloading with Selective Download
> Receive size limit _ KB
> 
> Then, Tools > Selective Download brings up a box that lets you preview
> new and/or all messages on the server. You can choose to delete them
> from the server without downloading them, or download them on an
> individual basis.
> 
> I'm using Sylpheed-Claws 0.8.5.
> 
> Hope that can be of use, I'm forever trying to preach the virtues of
> Sylpheed :)
> 
> Todd
> 
> 


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[newbie] ximian red carpet

2003-01-09 Thread Aurélio Diniz
Have anyone use this? 
It is worth downloading?
Does it play well with mandrake9?

cheers,

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Re: [newbie] Registered Linux User ?

2003-01-09 Thread Aurélio Diniz
(this i know:))
http://counter.li.org

I'm user #298018 :)

cheers,

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Re: [newbie] OT's on this list

2003-01-09 Thread Michael Adams
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 07:46, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > This is the same for 8.2 and 9.0 (i just checked).
> > Open KMail
> > Open a composer window (New or Reply)
> > Settings > Configure Toolbars
> > Highlight the 'spelling' option in the left 'Available actions' pane.
> > Click the [->] arrow button to move it to the 'Current actions' pane.
> > Click [OK].
>
> Well - I've done that now.  I think the reason I missed it is because the
> options are different, based on whether you are in composer or not.
>
> All I have to do now is configure my memory to hit the button.  Don't
> suppose you have any tricks for that one ;-)
>
> Anne

No sorry. I'm one for letting it slip as well. Then my spilling eras awl get 
threw, gust ass wall i chequed these won baa four pasting. No spilling eras 
her!

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Re: [newbie] Removable media problem

2003-01-09 Thread Pilagá
El Jue 09 Ene 2003 19:40, Roland Hughes escribió:
> happier, all I have left now is to figure out how to setup the decss for
> xine and the I will be in heaven.
> Thanks again.
> Roly

'xine_d4d_plugin' Just go for it, and all others xines rpms.
http://plf.zarb.org/

Suerte.
Pilagá


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Re: [newbie] no OpenOffice.org fonts on menus (at all)

2003-01-09 Thread Robin Turner
ThinKer wrote:

OK.. I see how this works. Star Trek Nemesis and US Foreign Policy get
all the replies and attention. Meanwhile, I ask a question that is very
much on topic(that yes, someone else has asked before but as I see it in
the archives, they didn't get an answer either) and I get banished to
search the archives? 

Sorry, but that's the normal procedure for a question that has been 
asked and answered (and I'm pretty sure it was answered, several times).

However, I'm sure that if someone was reading and knew the answer 
offhand, they would have answered.  Remember that your question is 
competing with really important stuff like Deanna Troi's chest measurements.

As someone else pointed out, the number of OT posts at the moment is 
atypical. This is because of the co-incidence of two important events: 
1) a war; 2) a new Star Trek film. I'm actually surprised that the 
former got more posts.

Thats it. I am on my way to the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] list so I can
get some help on fixing my OOOWriter.


Don't go there!  William Shatner is sexier!

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Re: [newbie] Altering an interrupt

2003-01-09 Thread Chuck Burns
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 19:39, Michael Adams wrote:
> Here is my "cat /proc/interrupts"
*snip*
> 
> Is it possible to move eth0 to one of the free ones or not. A pointer to a 
> HOWTO or Manual would be fine.
> 
> TIA
> 

I would believe that all of those are PCI devices, and AFAIK the only
way to change the IRQ of a PCI device is to move it into a different
slot.

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Re: [newbie] Sort of OT - language

2003-01-09 Thread Robin Turner
Carroll Grigsby wrote:

On Thursday 09 January 2003 06:35 pm, Robin Turner wrote:



(Çekoslovakyalılaştıramadıklardanmıydınız?)

Sir Robin



Gesundheit. Or were you clearing your throat?


It's Turkish for "Are you one of those who we were unable to turn into a 
Czechoslovakian?"  And people think Lisp is a mouthful!

Sir Robin


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Re: [newbie] Removable media problem

2003-01-09 Thread Roland Hughes
Well I think we are near the finish on this. Kwikdisk shows everything
but the cdrom still does not mount. But the good news is I can right
click on the desktop go to new and create a icon that works for the
floppy and dvd but when I do it for the cdrom it still errors out. This
tells me that either my new drive is bad or my cable is bad.
I really appreciate the help you and the others gave to me and much
happier, all I have left now is to figure out how to setup the decss for
xine and the I will be in heaven.
Thanks again.
Roly

On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 21:25, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 10:20, Roland Hughes wrote:
> > Well I tried your suggestions again with no joy( attached my efforts). I
> > also tried some other combinations(again attached). I also tried some of
> > the suggestions Anne and others made but no joy either.
> > I really appreciate everyones help.
> > Roly
> 
> I think the problem is where (in the attached bit) it says "INPUT/OUTPUT
> ERROR" - that's where we have to start looking...
> 
> What kind of output do you see when you run kwikdisk?
> 
> -- 
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Re: [newbie] no OpenOffice.org fonts on menus (at all)

2003-01-09 Thread Azrael
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 01:30, ThinKer wrote:
> OK.. I see how this works. Star Trek Nemesis and US Foreign Policy get
> all the replies and attention. Meanwhile, I ask a question that is very
> much on topic(that yes, someone else has asked before but as I see it in

Twas me that asked.. and I am still in the dark..

> the archives, they didn't get an answer either) and I get banished to
> search the archives? 
> 
> Thats it. I am on my way to the
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] list so I can
> get some help on fixing my OOOWriter.

If you get your answer there, will you let me know?
This problem is frustrating me..

> TP 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 18:40, Robin Turner wrote:
> > ThinKer wrote:
> > > Hello, 
> > > 
> > >  I recently decided to give openoffice.org a try for the first time to
> > > create a .doc file for a proposal. When I clicked on the openoffice.org
> > > writer link to application, the program appeared to start fine, but once
> > > it opened up I noticed that there is no text on any of the menus in both
> > > the opening dialog box and on the menus for the program. 
> > > 
> > > 1. How can I fix this, or should I go to the site and download and
> > > install the program from scratch?
> > > 
> > > 2. Is there another program for creating and manipulating M$ Office
> > > related documents and presentations?
> > 
> > This looks like the notorious OpenOffice fonts problem that came up on 
> > this list earlier. Check the archives, and good luck!
> > 
> > Sir Robin
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> __
> 
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[newbie] Altering an interrupt

2003-01-09 Thread Michael Adams
Here is my "cat /proc/interrupts"
++
   CPU0   
  0:8685870  XT-PIC  timer
  1:  34263  XT-PIC  keyboard
  2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
  3: 465097  XT-PIC  serial
  8:  1  XT-PIC  rtc
 10:  16171  XT-PIC  usb-uhci, usb-uhci, VIA 82C686A, eth0
 12: 223692  XT-PIC  PS/2 Mouse
 14:  41130  XT-PIC  ide0
 15: 13  XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:  0 
LOC:  0 
ERR:  0
MIS:  0
++

Is it possible to move eth0 to one of the free ones or not. A pointer to a 
HOWTO or Manual would be fine.

TIA

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Re: [newbie] no OpenOffice.org fonts on menus (at all)

2003-01-09 Thread ThinKer
OK.. I see how this works. Star Trek Nemesis and US Foreign Policy get
all the replies and attention. Meanwhile, I ask a question that is very
much on topic(that yes, someone else has asked before but as I see it in
the archives, they didn't get an answer either) and I get banished to
search the archives? 

Thats it. I am on my way to the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] list so I can
get some help on fixing my OOOWriter.



TP 


On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 18:40, Robin Turner wrote:
> ThinKer wrote:
> > Hello, 
> > 
> >  I recently decided to give openoffice.org a try for the first time to
> > create a .doc file for a proposal. When I clicked on the openoffice.org
> > writer link to application, the program appeared to start fine, but once
> > it opened up I noticed that there is no text on any of the menus in both
> > the opening dialog box and on the menus for the program. 
> > 
> > 1. How can I fix this, or should I go to the site and download and
> > install the program from scratch?
> > 
> > 2. Is there another program for creating and manipulating M$ Office
> > related documents and presentations?
> 
> This looks like the notorious OpenOffice fonts problem that came up on 
> this list earlier. Check the archives, and good luck!
> 
> Sir Robin
> 



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Re: [newbie] Sort of OT - language

2003-01-09 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Thursday 09 January 2003 06:35 pm, Robin Turner wrote:

> (Çekoslovakyalılaştıramadıklardanmıydınız?)
>
> Sir Robin

Gesundheit. Or were you clearing your throat?
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Re: [newbie] Registered Linux User ?

2003-01-09 Thread Azrael
methinks: 

http://counter.li.org/


On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 00:58, ThinKer wrote:
> How does one become a "registered Linux User?" I have seen several
> signatures at the bottoms of posting numbers indicating their
> registration as a Linux User.
> 
> I want a number. How do I get one?
> 
> 
> 
> __
> 
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   (_Y_.)'  ._   )  `._ `. ``-..-'  
 _..`--'_..-_/  /--'_.' .'  
((i).-''  ((i).'  (((.-' 
   
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of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with a cat it
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Re: [newbie] Linux Hardware Database

2003-01-09 Thread Carroll Grigsby
Sridhar:
Are you aware of another Linux HCL? I sometimes refer to the Mandrake list, 
but sometimes its a good idea to get a second opinion.
-- cmg

On Thursday 09 January 2003 08:42 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> Microsoft Apologist (and ZDNet editor) David Berlind took it down a while
> ago.
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:33:58 +1300, Michael Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > Has the ZDNet database moved or is it just down for two days now?
> >
> > --
> > Michael



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[newbie] channel 2: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed

2003-01-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm typing in a terminal as root and I'm interupted periodically by this 
message:

channel 2: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed

What does it mean?


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[newbie] Registered Linux User ?

2003-01-09 Thread ThinKer
How does one become a "registered Linux User?" I have seen several
signatures at the bottoms of posting numbers indicating their
registration as a Linux User.

I want a number. How do I get one?



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Re: [newbie] urpmi errors when adding sources

2003-01-09 Thread Pilagá
El Jue 09 Ene 2003 20:04, David escribió:
> this happens whenever I try to addmedia, update media or remove media.
> Looking closer, the synthesis file it is trying to examine is for a source
> that no longer exists. Perhaps the question now is, How do I tell urpmi
> that these sources no longer exist and not to examine the synth files for
> these. I have already done the urpmi.removemedia ... on the sources and I
> have been able to get it to stop inspecting list files for these media.
> (was getting media ignored).
>
> David

I'm not sure, David, but you can try editing: file:/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg 
(Please, backup it before.) And also file:/etc/urpmi/mirrorsfull.list.sample 
?

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Re: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which isbetter:KDE or Gnome?]

2003-01-09 Thread Robin Turner
Damn - it looks like my last post didn't get through (OpenOffice froze 
KDE!). To reiterate in brief - let's take the US politics argument 
offlist - come and flame me at www.livejournal.com/users/solri , where 
there are plenty of controversial posts on the Iraq situation!

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Re: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which is better:KDE or Gnome?]

2003-01-09 Thread Dennis Myers
On Thursday 09 January 2003 06:15 pm, Brandon Vanderberg wrote:
> > Some people may have hurt your feelings - well that's sad. But your
> > country is going to _kill_ people - not just hurt their feelings.
> >
> > Is it better to kill than to cope with opposing views and maybe discover
> > that you are wrong?
>
> Bones,
> Nice post. I'm sure there will be sweeping policy changes and a flood of
> apologies issued from Washington very soon.
>
> Until then, can we drop the subject at least on this list? It's getting
> real old.
> Pretty please?
> I'll be your best friend. ;)
>
> Feel free to contact me personally and flame my government to your
> heart's content. I'm also on the #Mandrake-offtopic IRC channel at
> freenode.net.
>
> ~Brandon
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Re: [newbie] no OpenOffice.org fonts on menus (at all)

2003-01-09 Thread Robin Turner
ThinKer wrote:

Hello, 

 I recently decided to give openoffice.org a try for the first time to
create a .doc file for a proposal. When I clicked on the openoffice.org
writer link to application, the program appeared to start fine, but once
it opened up I noticed that there is no text on any of the menus in both
the opening dialog box and on the menus for the program. 

1. How can I fix this, or should I go to the site and download and
install the program from scratch?

2. Is there another program for creating and manipulating M$ Office
related documents and presentations?

This looks like the notorious OpenOffice fonts problem that came up on 
this list earlier. Check the archives, and good luck!

Sir Robin


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doing it."
- Linus Torvalds

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Re: [newbie] Sort of OT - language

2003-01-09 Thread Robin Turner
Can Baytan wrote:

Lemme say few & join the OT'ers,

Among En, Tr (Turkish), Ge, and Fr,

EN grammer is easiest, than TR-GE-FR (for the sake of argument: you 
don't have to know grammer well to speak any language, remember lil' 
kids learning mother tounge?)

Learning Turkish grammar is easy - it's using it that's difficult. 
Spitting out all those suffixes can be a real pain! 
(Çekoslovakyalılaştıramadıklardanmıydınız?)

Sir Robin


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[newbie] no OpenOffice.org fonts on menus (at all)

2003-01-09 Thread ThinKer
Hello, 

 I recently decided to give openoffice.org a try for the first time to
create a .doc file for a proposal. When I clicked on the openoffice.org
writer link to application, the program appeared to start fine, but once
it opened up I noticed that there is no text on any of the menus in both
the opening dialog box and on the menus for the program. 

1. How can I fix this, or should I go to the site and download and
install the program from scratch?

2. Is there another program for creating and manipulating M$ Office
related documents and presentations?

Thanks,

TP  



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Re: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which isbetter:KDE or Gnome?]

2003-01-09 Thread Brandon Vanderberg
> Some people may have hurt your feelings - well that's sad. But your country is 
> going to _kill_ people - not just hurt their feelings. 
> 
> Is it better to kill than to cope with opposing views and maybe discover that 
> you are wrong?
Bones,
Nice post. I'm sure there will be sweeping policy changes and a flood of
apologies issued from Washington very soon.

Until then, can we drop the subject at least on this list? It's getting
real old.
Pretty please?
I'll be your best friend. ;)

Feel free to contact me personally and flame my government to your
heart's content. I'm also on the #Mandrake-offtopic IRC channel at
freenode.net.

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Re: [newbie] Sort of OT - language

2003-01-09 Thread Can Baytan
Lemme say few & join the OT'ers,

Among En, Tr (Turkish), Ge, and Fr,

EN grammer is easiest, than TR-GE-FR (for the sake of argument: you don't have to know grammer well to speak any language, remember lil' kids learning mother tounge?)
EN vocabulary is bggest to learn. (the only bad point for EN when learning, IMHO)
EN has fewest irregularities almost none, comparing the other three.
EN sentence structure is easiest to speak, eg. changing musicality and/or tone make a  normal sentence a well understandable question sentence.
EN speaking has lotsa shotcuts like gonna gotta, oughta, woulda.
Am EN speaking ppl is more understandable than En EN or Au EN speakers on the street at least to me, eg. a scottish sounds likes a chinese to me. (We have BBC and CNN chn's also others here in Turkey)
In US and AU people don't need to learn other languages much, comparing other countries due to almost isolated borders except Mexico.
EN is most widely&effectively speaking language of the world, Chinese is another case.

My conclusion: If you learn enough EN vocabulary and learn how to pronounce them understandably, you are on your way in EN, rest is depends on how much time you spent for.

Bests.

Can Baytan



Chuck Burns wrote:


On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 08:03, Vahur Lokk wrote:
 

Thats easy to explain - compared to other languages english has no grammar 
whatsoever, thus being easy to learn for foreigners (who have already grammar 
experience with their mother tongue)   :)

   


Actually.. English is one of the HARDEST languages to learn, since we
have so many words that have 4 or 5 different meanings, different ways
of saying the same thing, etc.  The fact of the matter is, many people
in non-english countries are required to learn english in school, from
an early age.

Now, on the other hand, many people in the USA ALSO take a few years of
a foreign language, but not until they are 16-20ish, and the older you
get, the harder it is to learn a new language.  Now.. even so, the fact
that we don't USE foreign languages very often here is, in itself,
contributory to us not speaking many languages.  Go down to Texas, close
to the Mexican border, you will find MANY spanish-speaking US citizens. 
Multi-language is born of necessity.

--
Dos anos de espanol.. and all I know is just about how to say what I
just did.. if it's even right.

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Re: [newbie] System Hangs after GF4 install

2003-01-09 Thread Jordan Elver
On Thursday 09 Jan 2003 10:55 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 09:50, Jordan Elver wrote:
> > Hi Stephen,
> >
> > > If after you've installed the GF4 you're trying to boot into a
> > > graphical login, that is your problem. You're going to need to change
> > > the runlevel from 5 to 3 so that you can login under text mode, update
> > > the video drivers, reconfigure XWindows and then you'll be able to get
> > > back to graphical login...
> >
> > I can already get into X, and everything is actually working, although
> > unreal 2003 won't install ;) It just seems to have stability problems. It
> > just seems a bit to coincidental that I installed a new card and then KDE
> > is freezing? What do think? Do you have sample snip from you X Config
> > that I could look at (if you have GF) ?
>
> The attachment is my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 you can check it out - but
> still, reinstalling the nvidia drivers generally resolves alot of
> issues...but hang tight...

This may sound stupid, but how exactly do I reinstall, just follow the same 
steps as I did before? I'll try changing some XF86Config options first and 
see if that helps it.

Thanks,
Jord

> > Thanks for the reply,
> > Jord

-- 
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time he's got something to eat and he won't die. So, collecting nuts in the 
summer is worthwhile work. Every task you do at work think, would a squirrel 
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Re: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which is better:KDE or Gnome?]

2003-01-09 Thread bones
Hell, everybody has strong feelings about this subject. I have resisted long 
but this post is really way beyond.

Imagine:

There are two countries, X and Y. 

- X has made war to two other countries (to one of them with strong support by 
Y) and shot rockets against a third, it is _suspected_ to have weapons of 
mass destruction. 

(Todays news tell me though that it is _not_ likely they do, or even did - is 
the news in america different?)

- Y is proven to _have_ weapons of mass destruction, is the only country that 
has actually used it and is willing to do so again. (see below: [1]). Has 
recently one-sidedly _broken_ the ABM treaty with russia to reduce nuclear 
weapons on both sides (Y is now stronger so the treaty is obsolete). [2] Y 
possess biological/chemical weapons and has recently ignored another 
international treaty they signed in 1972 that bans b+c weapons [4] . They 
have repeatedly attacked and invaded other (democratically elected) 
countries. [3] 

--- Which one is more dangerous? ---


Do you sometimes question yourself and your position? How comes your are so 
self-righteous? 

"You are with us or against us" what a shit! I am against Bush _and_ 
Fundamentalists, because they are basically the same to me.

Some people may have hurt your feelings - well that's sad. But your country is 
going to _kill_ people - not just hurt their feelings. 

Is it better to kill than to cope with opposing views and maybe discover that 
you are wrong?


p.

But well it _is_ true that this is the place to discuss opposing views about 
KDE and Gnome  I just couldn't let it stand like this.
--
[1]
"The Pentagon's newly revised, secret-but-leaked "nuclear posture review" 
lists not just one or two, but at least seven nations that may conceivably 
qualify as targets for nuclear attack by the United States. The potential 
bull's-eyes include not only the usual "axis of evil"-also known as Iran, 
Iraq and North Korea-but Libya and Syria, as well as our "friends" in China 
and Russia."
government site: http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/arms/stories/01121302.htm
(and)
bbc :http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1707812.stm

[2]
"The United States has given Russia formal notice that it will withdraw from 
the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty in six months, President Bush said 
December 13."
links: same as above

[3] 
"IRAN 1953
CIA directs overthrow of elected left-leaning government, installs Shah.

INDONESIA 1965
Army coup assisted to an unknown degree by CIA; left-leaning elected 
government toppled; between 250,000 to 1,000,000 lives lost.

CHILE 1973
CIA-backed coup ousts elected leftist president; rightist dictator installed.

Turkey
By means of repetitive coups the US-backed army has ousted the democratically 
elected parties for several times."

http://www.countries.com/messageboard/messages/688.html
(or) 
http://www.neravt.com/left/invade.htm

[4]
"The Bush administration has found another international agreement to spurn. 
This time it's a draft agreement to enforce a 1972 treaty banning biological 
weapons, an agreement backed by Britain and other European countries."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,7369,494257,00.html



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Re: [newbie] urpmi errors when adding sources

2003-01-09 Thread David
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:12 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Thursday 09 Jan 2003 9:49 pm, David wrote:
> > When ever I try to add a source to urpmi from the cli (as su), I keep
> > getting the following errors:
> > unable to inspect list file for "update source", medium ignored
> > ...
> > unable to uncompress synthesis file at
> > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/urpm.pm line 869.
> > Can anyone tell me what this means?
> > I gather this is related to the fact that I am unable to add any sites
> > through GUI, keeps telling me, unable to reach server, try another. I
> > ahve tried every server on list.
> > any help appreciated.
> >
> > David
>
> What is the precise command you are giving?
> derek
this happens whenever I try to addmedia, update media or remove media. Looking 
closer, the synthesis file it is trying to examine is for a source that no 
longer exists. Perhaps the question now is, How do I tell urpmi that these 
sources no longer exist and not to examine the synth files for these. I have 
already done the urpmi.removemedia ... on the sources and I have been able to 
get it to stop inspecting list files for these media. (was getting media 
ignored).

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Re: [newbie] Getting LILO back after installing Win XP

2003-01-09 Thread John Richard Smith
Stephen Kuhn wrote:


On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 23:06, George Baker wrote:
 

I've just installed Win XP onto my C: drive using NTFS. My second drive is
partitioned into a D: drive with FAT 32 and the remaining 4 gigs has
Mandrake 7.0.

I've reinstalled Win 98 before but obviously the C: drive was then FAT 32.
Using the MDK 7.0 boot CD and choosing upgrade I have always got LILO back.

I'm a bit worried now that the C: drive is NTFS. If I use the MDK 7.0 boot
CD will I damage something? I have never used NTFS before and don't want to
mess things up.

I unfortunately don't have a MDK boot floppy disk.

Please advise.

George Baker
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The problem is going to be this:

Yes, lilo writes to the MBR of the FIRST drive - in your case the C:\
drive - but the boot (/boot) HAS to live on the FIRST drive. Being that
it's already formatted to NTFS, I would assume that you've used all the
available space on the FIRST drive for XP - so that might present
problems.

In a best case with something like this, you could resize the NTFS
partition (as long as it's not a dynamic partition) so that you have
30mb of free space - to use for /boot. LILO could then inhabit the MBR
and /boot could inhabit the free space, whilst the rest of your linux
file systems lives elsewhere - on the SECOND drive or wherever.

Without knowing what tools you have at hand, you might be able to
download the demo version of PowerQuest's Partition Magic and resize the
NTFS partition (if it's not dynamic) enough...I'd suggest other tools,
but in reality, none are more suited to that task.

If you're in a position to "re-plan" your installation, you might
consider a new scheme. For instance, you could do your initial install
on your FIRST drive, setting aside 35mb of space (safety) that is
unpartitioned or unformatted, and install XP on the remaining drive
space. When installing linux, you could put the LILO and /boot on the
FIRST drive and then the / and /home (or whatever) on the SECOND drive.

My situation is that I have put mine as such:

hd0:
lilo
/boot (50mb)
/ (10gb)
XP - 27gb VFAT

hd1
SWAP - 640mb
/tmp - 500mb
XP - 38gb VFAT

scsi-hd0
/var
/home

BTW, having the VFAT for XP/Win98 gives me the ability to easily
mount/share/read/write files in between the OS's.

HTBH!

Cheers and Good Luck!

 

Stephen, you don't have to have the /boot partition on the first dive.

I have a setup on one of my computers where the first drive has two 
windblows OS's
and thus the mbr on the first drive, hda,  whilst two mandrake OS's and 
a common
/boot partition inhabit the second drive, hdb. It has always worked fine.

John

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Re: [newbie] Slow Boot-up

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 08:52, Anne Wilson wrote:

> [root@anne-linux anne]# dmesg
> Linux version 2.4.19-16mdk (root@ttla) (gcc version 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.0 
> 3.2-1mdk)) #1 Wed Sep 24 12:02:09 EDT 2003
> BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
>  BIOS-e820:  - 0009e800 (usable)
>  BIOS-e820: 0009e800 - 000a (reserved)
>  BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
>  BIOS-e820: 0010 - 1ffec000 (usable)
>  BIOS-e820: 1ffec000 - 1ffef000 (ACPI data)
>  BIOS-e820: 1ffef000 - 1000 (reserved)
>  BIOS-e820: 1000 - 2000 (ACPI NVS)
>  BIOS-e820:  - 0001 (reserved)
> 511MB LOWMEM available.

Needs more RAM


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Ha...meanwhile, your boot messages look rather alright - so it has to be
something with the KDM/KDE startup - maybe it's the hardware
detection...

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[newbie] urpmi errors when adding sources

2003-01-09 Thread David
When ever I try to add a source to urpmi from the cli (as su), I keep getting 
the following errors:
unable to inspect list file for "update source", medium ignored
...
unable to uncompress synthesis file at 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/urpm.pm line 869.
Can anyone tell me what this means?
I gather this is related to the fact that I am unable to add any sites through 
GUI, keeps telling me, unable to reach server, try another. I ahve tried 
every server on list.
any help appreciated.

David


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Re: [newbie] Regarding off-toppic chit-chats: IRC

2003-01-09 Thread Brandon Vanderberg
> 
> I connect to IRC servers everyday without having to use an ident server.So I 
> dont know that is the problem.I consider them a security risk and wouldnt use 
> one unless I had to.I am on Freenode now without one.So your rejection might 
> be caused by something else.
I've just noticed that some servers require it.
As for the security risk, you can always run the fakeident.

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Re: [newbie] Regarding off-toppic chit-chats: IRC

2003-01-09 Thread mike
On Thursday 09 January 2003 04:03 pm, you wrote:
> Some servers require an ident response (see pidentd) for access.
> But before looking at that, I'd try a different server.
>
> If you still have trouble, feel free to contact me via email directly,
> and I'll do whatever I can to help.
>
>
> ~Brandon
>
> On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 12:30, Terry Sheltra wrote:
> > Pardon the total newbieness :-), but I can seem to configure X-chat
> > correctly to connect to irc.freenode.net .. I put in the server name,
> > gave myself a nickname, and when i try to connect, I get the following:
> >
> >
> > --- Connecting to sterling.freenode.net (212.204.214.114) port 6667..
> > --- Connected. Now logging in..
> > --- AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...
> > --- AUTH :*** Found your hostname, welcome back
> > --- AUTH :*** Checking ident
> > --- AUTH :*** No identd (auth) response
> > --- Closing Link: ts (Bad user info)
> > --- Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).
> >
> > Is there something else I need to do that I'm not doing?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Terry
> >
> > mike wrote:
> > >On Wednesday 08 January 2003 10:26 pm, you wrote:
> > >>Is this besides the #mandrake channel on irc.freenode.net ?
> > >>
> > >>Michael
> > >
> > >Actually there is a channel on Freenode called #mandrake-offtopic that
> > > might be most appropriate for off topic chat.I am there now and it
> > > could use some provocation.

I connect to IRC servers everyday without having to use an ident server.So I 
dont know that is the problem.I consider them a security risk and wouldnt use 
one unless I had to.I am on Freenode now without one.So your rejection might 
be caused by something else.


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Re: [newbie] DHCP/net-up script

2003-01-09 Thread Brandon Vanderberg

> > Where's the best place for this. In the net-up script? I can't remember
> > what that is, or if it's executed when the computer gets a new lease. I
> > don't see a dhcpc script, just an exe.
> 
> I use a dyndns service with an updater running as a daemon, and it works fine. 
> It just periodically checks the IP and if different notifies dyndns. You only 
> get a log entry when something changes.
> 
>  ddclient from http://burry.ca:4141/ddclient/

That client won't work with my dns provider. However, reading that page
did cause me to look at dhcpcd.exe. Turns out it is only a script, and
even has a place for me to put in my update command. Looks like it's
going to work. I guess I'll just have to wait and see. 

Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] Regarding off-toppic chit-chats: IRC

2003-01-09 Thread Terry Sheltra
I sure jumped the gun on that one!! :-)

Thanks for the pointer Brandon.  I checked my 'puter, and sho' nuff, I 
didn't have pidentd installed.  So, I installed that, and now it 
works!  Now I can go play with the other boys and girls! ;-)

Thanks again!

Terry

Terry Sheltra wrote:

Brandon,

Thanks for the response.  What I entered into the server setting was 
the generic "irc.freenode.net" .. I've seen it connect to several 
different servers within the freenode.net group, each one of them 
giving me the same message.  Even typing in one of the servers 
directly results in the same thing.  Any other suggestions?

Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] Regarding off-toppic chit-chats: IRC

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 07:30, Terry Sheltra wrote:
> Pardon the total newbieness :-), but I can seem to configure X-chat 
> correctly to connect to irc.freenode.net .. I put in the server name, 
> gave myself a nickname, and when i try to connect, I get the following:
> 
> 
> --- Connecting to sterling.freenode.net (212.204.214.114) port 6667..
> --- Connected. Now logging in..
> --- AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...
> --- AUTH :*** Found your hostname, welcome back
> --- AUTH :*** Checking ident
> --- AUTH :*** No identd (auth) response
> --- Closing Link: ts (Bad user info)
> --- Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).
> 
> Is there something else I need to do that I'm not doing?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Terry
> 

When you fire up X-Chat, have you made sure that you've setup a
username/nick and all that jazz?

When you fire it up, it's going to give you three places to put in
nicknames, then your real name and etc - you need to fill them in.

Then, when you create a link for a new server (irc.freenode.net) you
still will need to put in some type of username - not a password, just a
username...then you should be right (don't run IRC as root)

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Re: [newbie] Regarding off-toppic chit-chats: IRC

2003-01-09 Thread Terry Sheltra
Brandon,

Thanks for the response.  What I entered into the server setting was the 
generic "irc.freenode.net" .. I've seen it connect to several different 
servers within the freenode.net group, each one of them giving me the 
same message.  Even typing in one of the servers directly results in the 
same thing.  Any other suggestions?

Thanks!

Terry

Brandon Vanderberg wrote:

Some servers require an ident response (see pidentd) for access. 
But before looking at that, I'd try a different server.

If you still have trouble, feel free to contact me via email directly,
and I'll do whatever I can to help.


~Brandon

 

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Re: [newbie] Regarding off-toppic chit-chats: IRC

2003-01-09 Thread Brandon Vanderberg
Some servers require an ident response (see pidentd) for access. 
But before looking at that, I'd try a different server.

If you still have trouble, feel free to contact me via email directly,
and I'll do whatever I can to help.


~Brandon
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 12:30, Terry Sheltra wrote:
> Pardon the total newbieness :-), but I can seem to configure X-chat 
> correctly to connect to irc.freenode.net .. I put in the server name, 
> gave myself a nickname, and when i try to connect, I get the following:
> 
> 
> --- Connecting to sterling.freenode.net (212.204.214.114) port 6667..
> --- Connected. Now logging in..
> --- AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...
> --- AUTH :*** Found your hostname, welcome back
> --- AUTH :*** Checking ident
> --- AUTH :*** No identd (auth) response
> --- Closing Link: ts (Bad user info)
> --- Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).
> 
> Is there something else I need to do that I'm not doing?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Terry
> 
> mike wrote:
> 
> >On Wednesday 08 January 2003 10:26 pm, you wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Is this besides the #mandrake channel on irc.freenode.net ?
> >>
> >>Michael
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Actually there is a channel on Freenode called #mandrake-offtopic that might 
> >be most appropriate for off topic chat.I am there now and it could use some 
> >provocation.
> >  
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: [newbie] MySQL users DB corrupted

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 06:21, Cory wrote:
> I have a small problem where a power outage has corrupted the user database
> for mysql, now no users can authenticate/manipulate any databases hosted by
> the MySQL Engine... This is rather annoying since I am no longer able to
> administer the databases, and I appear to be unable to modify, or create
> users all together.
> The engine is running, and the availability of data is still there, but in a
> read only manner. I can pull data out, but unless I can authenticate, I cant
> enter any in! How can I fix this? Almost all of the admin tools I have found
> will not work without logging in. 
> If there is no other solution, is it possible to import the existing
> database I have (used for inventory purposes) into a fresh mysql install? I
> cant export anything, and the database files are basically flat files at
> this point... A good web resource would also be appreciated!
> any help would be appreciated.
> 

Are you able to access the MySQL adminsitration applet through Webmin?
Have you tried running /usr/bin/mysql_fix_privilege_tables ?

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Re: [newbie] Regarding off-toppic chit-chats: IRC

2003-01-09 Thread Terry Sheltra
Pardon the total newbieness :-), but I can seem to configure X-chat 
correctly to connect to irc.freenode.net .. I put in the server name, 
gave myself a nickname, and when i try to connect, I get the following:


--- Connecting to sterling.freenode.net (212.204.214.114) port 6667..
--- Connected. Now logging in..
--- AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...
--- AUTH :*** Found your hostname, welcome back
--- AUTH :*** Checking ident
--- AUTH :*** No identd (auth) response
--- Closing Link: ts (Bad user info)
--- Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).

Is there something else I need to do that I'm not doing?

Thanks!

Terry

mike wrote:

On Wednesday 08 January 2003 10:26 pm, you wrote:
 

Is this besides the #mandrake channel on irc.freenode.net ?

Michael
   


Actually there is a channel on Freenode called #mandrake-offtopic that might 
be most appropriate for off topic chat.I am there now and it could use some 
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[newbie] ARTICLE - Mandrake 9.0: It takes two

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
In my attempts to appease the Mandrakians, I ran across this whilst
sipping my caffeinated hot brown liquid:

http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/01/04/1357253

Now to to RH crowd I slither...(grin)

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Re: [newbie] Linux Hardware Database

2003-01-09 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 09 January 2003 01:42 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan 
wrote:
> Microsoft Apologist (and ZDNet editor) David Berlind
> took it down a while ago.
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:33:58 +1300, Michael Adams
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > Has the ZDNet database moved or is it just down for
> > two days now?
> >
> > --
> > Michael

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Re: [newbie] System Hangs after GF4 install

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 05:01, Jordan Elver wrote:
> Hi,
> After the installation of my Geforce 4, my system now hangs for no aparent 
> reason. Does anyone know where I should start looking for the problem? Is 
> this likely to be hardware or software related?
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Jord

If after you've installed the GF4 you're trying to boot into a graphical
login, that is your problem. You're going to need to change the runlevel
from 5 to 3 so that you can login under text mode, update the video
drivers, reconfigure XWindows and then you'll be able to get back to
graphical login...

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Re: [newbie] LM9 Boxed Set

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 02:13, Rob Lindsay wrote:
> Will be back in the UK in February.
> 
> Where should I go to get the latest Mandrake Boxed Edition?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Rob

Australia.

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Re: [newbie] Sort of OT - language

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 00:51, Robin Turner wrote:

> Heh heh - I'll tell that to my students!
> 
You've got students? Uh oh...

>   thus being easy to learn for foreigners (who have already grammar
> > experience with their mother tongue)   :)
> 
> And frequently have gone through an education system where they have to 
> learn the grammar of their own language, which tends not to be the case 
> in the UK any more (I don't know about the US, but I get the impression 
> that it's left until university composition courses, by which time it's 
> too late).
> 
(I've met more non-English speaking people speaking English that
understood grammar moreso than English speaking people that have no
other language - especially in Texas)

> Sir Robin
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Re: [newbie] Filter to /dev/null

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 00:47, Robin Turner wrote:
> >>And Stephen Kuhn replied:
> > 
> > 
> >>As far as using "the black hole" - I make use of it via /etc/procmailrc
> >>- this is a processor for mail which can be used for sendmail, postfix,
> >>qmail - it contains "rules" or rather "recipes" for diverting stuff
> >>hither thither and yon...here's a quick clip from mine showing that
> >>garbage is sent to "hell":
> > 
> > 
> >>## procmailrc recipes
> > 
> 
> Thanks, this is useful! I note you get spam from Korea too!
> 
> Sir Robin

When I was a child, my parents got Spam from the store.
Now that I'm an adult, I get Spam from Korea, China, Russia, Germany,
France, South America, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Italy, Turkey (heaps
there), Greece, Portugal, Lebanon, Korea, Korea, India, Korea...(g)

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Re: [newbie] Sort of OT - language

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 00:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Agreed, Anne.  Being American, I'm equally amazed that many who
> speak something other than english as a primary language can
> converse in english so much better than many who are raised with
> it as their only language.  Those who can - and do - show such
> desire to be "global" have my deepest respect and admiration...
> and envy *g*.
> 
> joe

Having been raised in Detroit (don't run) and also having lived in both
Miami and Texas - having the ability to at least understand another
language has been a benefit as most Americans don't have a clue, nor do
they do anything with "second language" they take in HS - IF they take a
second language.

Nowadays here in Australia, it's so much easier to get the kids to take
another language in primary - and it's something you take with you all
your life - IF you learn the language well enough.

My daughter is going to take French (God knows why - yech) and my son is
going to take either German, Russian or Japanese - still can't make up
his mind, but there is a cool show on our public broadcasting that is a
Japanese language show for kiddies (and actually it's quite fun and
cool)...

...far cry from Sesame Street with the bits'n'bobs of Espanol or
Francais...

Meanwhile, I think every human should know at least 2 languages. My
migration agent is FLUENT in 9 language - FLUENT - and he's learning
more all the time - currently he's working on Malaysian...

Ok...had my morning rant...cheers!

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Re: [newbie] Linux Hardware Database

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 00:42, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> Microsoft Apologist (and ZDNet editor) David Berlind took it down a while ago.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:33:58 +1300, Michael Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Has the ZDNet database moved or is it just down for two days now?
> > 
> > -- 
> > Michael

Maybe they're trying to say that linux runs on a wider variety of
hardware than does Microsloth? Maybe they're just trying to prove that
linux users are going to find out the information they need anyways -
with or without the help of ZDnet? (Wow - ZDnet ain't gonna help me no
mo! Oh, woe is me!) NOT!!

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Re: [newbie] Re: U.S. politics in Linux?

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 00:24, Robin Turner wrote:
> Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> 
> > Guess I'll be seeing youse guys on the battlefield.  ;)
> 
> Come and visit us in Ankara - we're within Scud range!
> 
> Sir Robin

OoooRobin...c'mon mate...ya really don't want to entice 'em into
more of this unnecessary fecal expulsion, do ya?

(g)

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Re: [newbie] upgrade php 4.0.6 -> 4.3.0 on man8.1

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 23:28, Vrana Bohdan wrote:
> Good .. for everybody!
> 
> Two days I trying to update my php libs. I ged apache 1.3.26 and php
> 4.3.0 from related sites. Using help pages on php.net or php.sk I
> config and make &&make install new versions to /usr/local. Apache I
> got to work (rewriting conf.filesL). But if I try to get to any server
> http virtual sites (mostly php) I receive ‘access forbiden’, on
> error_log: ‘Directory index forbidden by rule:
> /mnt/live/httpd/site.sk/’…
> Please advice me how to most slightly make a best way to upgrade it.
> Reason why is my php_programmer wants some new features.
> I enjoy any advice, web site (no php.net), or threat to do it.
> System: Mandrake 8.1 with updates, apache-1.3.22, php-4.0.6
> TNX
> 
> Bohdan Vrana

Being that you've done an upgrade, you might want to use Webmin to
reconfigure not just Apache, but the mod_php modules that are installed
with PHP - this will ensure that Apache reads all of the
updated/upgraded modules and reconfigures them accordingly, as well as
initialising the PHP modules. After double checking all of your settings
in Apache, make SURE you stop then restart the service prior to putting
things back on your website. This will fix the permission problems -
which is actually coming from improper configuration of modules - not
really a "file permissions" issue.


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Re: [newbie] Slow Boot-up

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 22:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Recently I have experience slow boot-up times.  Since I rarely re-boot, I have 
> no idea when the problem started.  Undoubtedly it is because of something 
> that I have changed, but it could have been any time over the last few weeks, 
> so I could do with some clues as to where to start looking.
> 
> The first delay is apparent in the step which I think is labelled 'mounting 
> local filesystems' and this causes the usb LS120 to spin for a considerable 
> time.  It happens even if there is no disk in, though possibly not quite as 
> long - I haven't timed it.
> 
> The really big delay comes after the blue screen with wrist-watch appears, and 
> before the kde boot display showing progress.
> 
> Has anyone any idea what may be happening during that period?
> 
> Anne
> 

Could you do a dmesg and post the output?

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to call it if they did these things: abolish the one party system; open the
Soviet frontier and allow Soviet people to travel freely; allow the Soviet
people to have real free enterprise; allow Western businessmen to do business
there, and permit freedom of speech and of the press.  But so far, the whole
country is like a concentration camp.  The barbed wire on the fence around
the Soviet Union is to keep people inside, in the dark.  This openness that
you are seeing, all these changes, are cosmetic and they have been designed
to impress shortsighted, naive, sometimes stupid Western leaders.  These
leaders gush over Gorbachev, hoping to do business with the Soviet Union or
appease it.  He will say: "Yes, we can do business!"  This while his
military machine in Afghanistan has killed over a million people out of a
population of 17 million.  Can you imagine that?
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[newbie] MySQL users DB corrupted

2003-01-09 Thread Cory
I have a small problem where a power outage has corrupted the user database
for mysql, now no users can authenticate/manipulate any databases hosted by
the MySQL Engine... This is rather annoying since I am no longer able to
administer the databases, and I appear to be unable to modify, or create
users all together.
The engine is running, and the availability of data is still there, but in a
read only manner. I can pull data out, but unless I can authenticate, I cant
enter any in! How can I fix this? Almost all of the admin tools I have found
will not work without logging in. 
If there is no other solution, is it possible to import the existing
database I have (used for inventory purposes) into a fresh mysql install? I
cant export anything, and the database files are basically flat files at
this point... A good web resource would also be appreciated!
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Re: [newbie] OT's on this list

2003-01-09 Thread Michael Adams
On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 23:35, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 09 Jan 2003 10:17 am, Michael Adams wrote:
> > On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 08:29, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 08 Jan 2003 6:45 pm, Michael Adams wrote:
> > > > I actually have achieved something usefull in this respect. I have a
> > > > spell checker icon in kmail composer windows.
> > >
> > > If you're serious, please tell us more
> > >
> > > Anne
> >
> > Sorry, i'll explain, the icon is a button on the taskbar. Configured it
> > there somehow months ago.
>
> I'd still like to know more :)  It sounds like something that could be
> useful to many of us.
>
> Anne

This is the same for 8.2 and 9.0 (i just checked).
Open KMail
Open a composer window (New or Reply)
Settings > Configure Toolbars
Highlight the 'spelling' option in the left 'Available actions' pane.
Click the [->] arrow button to move it to the 'Current actions' pane.
Click [OK].

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Re: [newbie] LM9 Boxed Set

2003-01-09 Thread et
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On Thursday 09 January 2003 10:13 am, Rob Lindsay wrote:
> Will be back in the UK in February.
>
> Where should I go to get the latest Mandrake Boxed Edition?
>
> TIA
>
> Rob
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Re: [newbie] Linux Hardware Database

2003-01-09 Thread Michael Adams
Thanks Sridhar, good to see you are still lurking here. Your occassional 
advice has been invaluable from time to time.


On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 02:42, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> Microsoft Apologist (and ZDNet editor) David Berlind took it down a while
> ago.
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:33:58 +1300, Michael Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > Has the ZDNet database moved or is it just down for two days now?
> >

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Re: [newbie] MOUSE normal speed

2003-01-09 Thread Charlie
On January 8, 2003 05:59 pm, Russ wrote:
> Hi Charlie,
>
> Thanks for the reply and sorry for the delay in responding back. In the
> process of trying to tweak my mouse it flipped out all together. It
> wouldn't go more than an inch away from th bottom left hand corner. The
> wheel wouldn't work either. What a mess. I knew there was a thread about
> someone loosing their mouse so I searched around till I found it. I
> ended up having to unplug the little bugger and then choosing "none"
> then plugged it back in, chose the correct mouse then rebooted again and
> now it works ... sort of.
>
> it is still a slow poky thing unless I manually change it. No it is not
> dirty around the ball (I wipe it out regularly). It is a MS Explorer 5
> button Track Ball. When I choose MS Explorer from the list, it works
> fantastic (minus the 2 right hand buttons). However when I log out then
> back in, it is back to the turtle.
>
> Anybody have any idea how I can make the setting stay put?
> Also, anybody know of software out there that will allow me to use my
> extra 2 buttons?
>
> Thanks
> Russ


At least I tried. The grunge build up was responsible for a lot of mouse 
trouble for people that I know in the past. :-)

For a 5  button mouse you may have to manually edit the mouse section of 
XF86Conf-4 to reflect the buttons and their mapping. I think. I don't have a 
5 button mouse (or a clue) but it seems logical that you might have to 
"teach" it how to use all the buttons. 

Maybe copy'n'paste the mouse section of that file (/etc/X11/XF86Conf-4) to a 
message since you have Stephen's attention now. "Listen" to his advice since 
he's a hell of a lot more knowledgeable than I'll ever hope to be.

It's possible I suppose that the mouse is in a snit 'cause it's being asked to 
communicate with something other than Windows. ;)

Good luck.

Regards;
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[newbie] System Hangs after GF4 install

2003-01-09 Thread Jordan Elver
Hi,
After the installation of my Geforce 4, my system now hangs for no aparent 
reason. Does anyone know where I should start looking for the problem? Is 
this likely to be hardware or software related?

Thanks for any help,
Jord
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Re: [newbie] Getting LILO back after installing Win XP

2003-01-09 Thread Michael Adams
My understanding is that LILO only writes the MBR of hda. The MBR is not NTFS 
and it is separate from any partitions. You should be able to safely replace 
the MBR with LILO. I beleive your concern to be if lilo can pass control to 
the boot of the NTFS partition. I haven't heard anyone complain about this 
not working.

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 05:35, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 January 2003 12:06 pm, George Baker wrote:
> > I've just installed Win XP onto my C: drive using NTFS.
> > My second drive is partitioned into a D: drive with FAT
> > 32 and the remaining 4 gigs has Mandrake 7.0.
> >
> > I've reinstalled Win 98 before but obviously the C:
> > drive was then FAT 32. Using the MDK 7.0 boot CD and
> > choosing upgrade I have always got LILO back.
> >
> > I'm a bit worried now that the C: drive is NTFS. If I
> > use the MDK 7.0 boot CD will I damage something? I have
> > never used NTFS before and don't want to mess things up.
> >
> > I unfortunately don't have a MDK boot floppy disk.
> >
> > Please advise.
> >
> > George Baker
>
> George, if I understand you correctly you haven't booted
> into MDK yet, but have XP up and running ?. If you're
> interested, I still have a MDK 7.0 CD around and will be
> happy to mail the boot.img to you. Then, dd it to a
> floppy, and you should be in business.
>
> Kaj Haulrich
> Denmark.
> ===
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Re: [newbie] CD

2003-01-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 09 Jan 2003 5:21 pm, Gil Katz wrote:
> Hi
> When i enter a music cd into the cdrom i get no cd loaded
> or when i try to browse the cd from mnt i get premission denied
> ( i root)
> what should i do?
> Thanks
> Gil

Audio cds are not browsed.  You need to open a cdplayer.  XMMS is very good, 
though some people need help changing a plugin to make it work on their 
system.  Try it.  If it doesn't play your cds, go to Derek's linux page

www.jennings.homelinux.net

and read the section there.  One warning, though, the article implies that it 
only is needed if you have no audio cable attached.  This is not so.  For 
some of us the cable may be there and still need this fix.

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Re: [newbie] CD

2003-01-09 Thread Bryan Tyson
On Thursday 09 January 2003 12:21, Gil Katz wrote:

> When i enter a music cd into the cdrom i get no cd loaded
> or when i try to browse the cd from mnt i get premission denied
> ( i root)
> what should i do?

A partial answer: Don't mount audio cds. Just put the cd in the drive 
and open a cd player application.

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Re: [newbie] Slow Boot-up

2003-01-09 Thread et
On Thursday 09 January 2003 12:25 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 09 Jan 2003 1:40 pm, et wrote:
> > are you running hard drake each boot?
>
> I don't know.  What should I check?  I have usb devices plugged in
> constantly. Do I need it for that?
>
> Anne
As I understand it, you only really need to run harddrake when new hardware is 
first installed, you can check in MCC > System > Services unclick the "start 
at boot" box.
Harddrake normally runs much before the blue screen of the login mangler. 
maybe something in the configuration of KDM?, maybe changing from KDM to GDM? 


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Re: [newbie] Sort of OT - language

2003-01-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 09 Jan 2003 3:01 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> on the contrary, english does have grammer, syntax and a
> recognized structure; it`s simply that wiht the vast mixture we
> ahve from so many cultures, many don`t learn the "proper" way to
> use english or they consciously revamp it, making some form of it
> thier own.  i may be wrong having never loooked into it, but i
> believe the U.S. is one of the most diverse nations culturally,
> making a consistency in anything harder than many cultures must
> deal with.  that said, it would still be nice if those who grow
> up with english would/could learn its proper usage before
> savaging it beyond recognition.  my final .02 worth.

I read somewhere that although we (British) complain loudly about American 
spelling etc., the truth is that their language is more pure than ours.  In 
fact theirs has changed relatively little since Pilgrim Fathers, whereas ours 
has changed a lot.

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Sort of OT - language

2003-01-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 09 Jan 2003 3:37 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 08:03, Vahur Lokk wrote:
> > Thats easy to explain - compared to other languages english has no
> > grammar whatsoever, thus being easy to learn for foreigners (who have
> > already grammar experience with their mother tongue)   :)
>
> Actually.. English is one of the HARDEST languages to learn, since we
> have so many words that have 4 or 5 different meanings, different ways
> of saying the same thing, etc.  The fact of the matter is, many people
> in non-english countries are required to learn english in school, from
> an early age.
>
> Now, on the other hand, many people in the USA ALSO take a few years of
> a foreign language, but not until they are 16-20ish, and the older you
> get, the harder it is to learn a new language.  Now.. even so, the fact
> that we don't USE foreign languages very often here is, in itself,
> contributory to us not speaking many languages.  Go down to Texas, close
> to the Mexican border, you will find MANY spanish-speaking US citizens.
> Multi-language is born of necessity.
>

Born not just of necessity, though undoubtedly that would be so, but also of 
opportunity.  The truth is that here in Britain we never hear other 
languages.  Of course you can try satellite TV, but you need a reasonable 
grasp for that to be any good.  I can understand a fair bit of French and 
German if it is said slowly, but at normal talking speed I have no chance.

FWIW, I especially enjoy the times when I have needed to converse with someone 
with whom I have not a word in common.  It's amazing what you can achieve if 
the will is there - but that's irrelevant to what I originally said.  (One 
day I'll tell Sir Robin about the most amazing day of my life, in Turkey).

Anne


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Re: POP3 mail filtering [was: Re: [newbie] OT's on this list]

2003-01-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 09 Jan 2003 1:44 pm, Robin Turner wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Thursday 09 Jan 2003 8:58 am, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
> >>Wouldn't that be nice if the POP mail system could do that! In my
> >>experience, using Netscape and Mozilla mail, I either download all the
> >>messages from the ISP or none.
> >
> > Are you sure it doesn't?  I'm sure I used just that to get rid of spam
> > from a certain address, and mine is a pop account.  I'm using KMail, and
> > I'm sure it was simple to activate there.
>
> AFAIK, Mozilla does not allow server-side mail filtering - the only
> options are to download everything, or only messages under a certain
> size (not very useful for spam filtering, since the problem is lot's of
> little messages, not one or two big ones).  On the positive side,
> Mozilla/Netscape allows you the option of leaving messages on the server
> but having them deleted there when they are deleted locally - very
> useful when you're logging on from different computers.
>
Ah - that explains it.  It's so long since I used Mozilla mail that I forgot 
that.  As I said, I used it in KMail, which, under settings, has Configure 
Pop Filters.

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Re: [newbie] Slow Boot-up

2003-01-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 09 Jan 2003 1:40 pm, et wrote:
> are you running hard drake each boot?
>
I don't know.  What should I check?  I have usb devices plugged in constantly.  
Do I need it for that?

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Re: [newbie] Slow Boot-up

2003-01-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 09 Jan 2003 1:15 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Thursday 09 Jan 2003 11:52 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Recently I have experience slow boot-up times.  Since I rarely re-boot, I
> > have no idea when the problem started.  Undoubtedly it is because of
> > something that I have changed, but it could have been any time over the
> > last few weeks, so I could do with some clues as to where to start
> > looking.
> >
> > The first delay is apparent in the step which I think is labelled
> > 'mounting local filesystems' and this causes the usb LS120 to spin for a
> > considerable time.  It happens even if there is no disk in, though
> > possibly not quite as long - I haven't timed it.
> >
> > The really big delay comes after the blue screen with wrist-watch
> > appears, and before the kde boot display showing progress.
> >
> > Has anyone any idea what may be happening during that period?
> >
> > Anne
>
> One cause of slow loading of KDE is the automatic scan for new konqueror
> plugins that takes place on boot. I find if I inhibit this KDE starts a lot
> quicker (It just means I have to do a manual scan whenever I add a new
> plugin)
>
> Edit /usr/bin/startkde to comment out these lines
>
> # Laurent kde2.2-30mdk scan-nsplugins
> #if [ -x /usr/bin/nspluginscan ]; then
> #   /usr/bin/nspluginscan
> #fi
>
> derek

Thanks Derek.  I tried that, and I think it has helped.  It's still not what 
you could call fast, but it is better.  I have a gut feeling that the delays 
started after I installed Netscape 7.  Is it possible that Netscape/Mozilla 
are also scanning for plugins?

Anne



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[newbie] CD

2003-01-09 Thread Gil Katz
Hi
When i enter a music cd into the cdrom i get no cd loaded
or when i try to browse the cd from mnt i get premission denied
( i root)
what should i do?
Thanks 
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Re: [newbie] Sort of OT - language

2003-01-09 Thread et
On Thursday 09 January 2003 09:42 am, Adolfo Bello wrote:
> > Thats easy to explain - compared to other languages english has no
> > grammar whatsoever, thus being easy to learn for foreigners (who have
> > already grammar experience with their mother tongue)   :)
> >
> > Wahur
>
> Is Joyce's Ulyses in other language as great as it is in english? I
> don't think so.
>
> Just a tought.
>
> Adolfo
>
> P.S: I propose that OT will be posted to the expert list. Newbie (like
> me but I enjoy OTs) are mostly looking for answers to urgent problems.
My opinion was that as Newbies, we _better_ be able to laugh at ourselves, 
while "experts" have stuff to do and don't have the time for OT.


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Re: SV: SV: [newbie] OT - Star Trek Nemesis

2003-01-09 Thread Miark
Well, they seek technological perfection, so we know what OS 
they _DON'T_ use. :-)

Miark


On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 04:10:06 +0800
"Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Wonder what OS, the borg use to commumicate with the hive?
> 
> 
> rgds
> 
> Frank


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Re: [newbie] rpmdrake

2003-01-09 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday January 9 2003 02:41 am, Tuija wrote:
> Viestissä Keskiviikko 8. Tammikuuta 2003 18:35, Tom Brinkman 
kirjoitti:
> >as root,
> >urpmi.update -a  ...will update all sources you've installed
> >urpmi --auto-select   ...will get the updates. Or better yet,
> >urpmi.update -a --wget && urpmi --auto-select
>
> **
> Thank you Tom,
>
> These commands worked well with this same mirror where
> this graphic rpmdrake stucked :-)
> Seems to me that these console commands are much more
> powerfull than trying to do something in Kde?
> What about kernels, does somebody make these urpmi-kernels
> too like they make rpm-kernels in rh?
> Is solid 2.4.20 available in Mdk too?
>
> Tuija

 The last one works even better if you make a bashrc alias for it ;)
   A lot less typing,  EG,
alias xxx='urpmi.update -a --wget && urpmi --auto-select'
 (xxx is 3 or 4 descriptive letters of your choosing.) Just put the 
line (as root) in /etc/bashrc at the end of the file.

  It's OK to use urpmi for kernel-source rpms, but not (read 
_NEVER_) for kernel binary rpms (ie, the pre-compiled ones). Use 
'rpm -ivh kernel-xx.rpm'  Actually, urpmi already has a safeguard 
to prevent using it to upgrade a kernel, see /etc/urpmi/inst.list

There were several 2.4.20 Mdk kernels recently. I had minor 
problems with one (the first one IIRC), the last one 2.4.20-2 had no 
problems (for me). Current one is 2.4.21-pre2.1, the first Mdk 2.4.21 
kernel, and appears to have no problems.  These kernels are on cooker 
mirrors, but should work on 9.0.  There's also newer Mandrake kernels 
available from the Club, and I believe also on Mdk unsupported/ 
mirrors. These would probly be a better choice on a 'stock' system ;)
-- 
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Re: [newbie] Sort of OT - language

2003-01-09 Thread Chuck Burns
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 08:03, Vahur Lokk wrote:
> >
> Thats easy to explain - compared to other languages english has no grammar 
> whatsoever, thus being easy to learn for foreigners (who have already grammar 
> experience with their mother tongue)   :)
> 

Actually.. English is one of the HARDEST languages to learn, since we
have so many words that have 4 or 5 different meanings, different ways
of saying the same thing, etc.  The fact of the matter is, many people
in non-english countries are required to learn english in school, from
an early age.

Now, on the other hand, many people in the USA ALSO take a few years of
a foreign language, but not until they are 16-20ish, and the older you
get, the harder it is to learn a new language.  Now.. even so, the fact
that we don't USE foreign languages very often here is, in itself,
contributory to us not speaking many languages.  Go down to Texas, close
to the Mexican border, you will find MANY spanish-speaking US citizens. 
Multi-language is born of necessity.

 --
Dos anos de espanol.. and all I know is just about how to say what I
just did.. if it's even right.

Chuck



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