[newbie] [Fwd: Bad md5sums on 91 ISO's; CHECK yours]

2003-01-27 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
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Subject: Bad md5sums on 91 ISO's; CHECK yours
Date: 28 Jan 2003 01:54:44 -0500

OK, I've done enough work on this now that I feel I should make this
public.  I have not been able to download a LM91beta2 ISO that matches
the md5sum checks listed in 

md5sums.9.1beta2.asc 

which is in the same dir as any of the beta ISO's on any of the mirrors.


I *was* able to get the 2nd beta ISO in and it checked out OK.  I have
not been able to do the same with the first one; even after 5
downloads.  I have a 24/7 constant connection with t1 speeds.  The
mirror I have been using is 

ftp://raven.cslab.vt.edu/pub/linux/mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.1beta2-CD1.i586.iso

Yes I can switch to another mirror, but the point that I wanted to get
across is that everyone that is or has downloaded these betas needs to
subject them to an md5sum test.  It's very simple, all you do is 

[lx@tamriel LM91beta]$ md5sum MandrakeLinux-9.1beta2-CD1.i586.iso 

And if you get 

cf739ac78ca83b312d5969eb3241d453  MandrakeLinux-9.1beta2-CD1.i586.iso 

then your copy is bogus, like mine.  The only number that you should see
for an md5sum on the first cd is 

174db6ae3032ea1f48445a725427bd50 

Second CD: 

5d67a6b4f82b4dbe3417ad1c90249fbb 

Anything else is bogus.  I'd be real interested to hear the experiences
and information from others. 

LX 

P.S.  Anytime an ISO is downloaded, it should be verified for integrity
with md5sum.  If you haven't already done this, you should go back and
check it out. 

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Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

2003-01-27 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 17:38, Kaj Haulrich wrote: 
> Anyone here managed to install Mandrake 9.0 upon a Dell 
> Optiplex ? - If yes, what's your mileage / experience ?
> 
> My reason for asking : I just contacted Dell Denmark and 
> asked for an *empty* Optiplex. They were quite negative, 
> asking why I don't want Windows preinstalled. I told them 
> that I wanted to install Mandrake. Long pause. Then they 
> cheered up quite a bit : Actually, they could deliver an 
> Optiplex with Linux ( RedHat, I suppose) preinstalled !
> 
> Now, I intend to purchase the thingy and install Mandrake, 
> figuring I can put the golden star upon the red hat.
> 
> Comments ? 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Kaj Haulrich. 

Fascinating. 

I'm glad to hear that they are giving consumers a choice.  Although I'm
disappointed to hear that they "expect" to give winblows preinstalled. 

My comment is that I would like to know what their partitioning scheme
is on the system that you get, before it is wiped forevermore.  Also, it
does sound like a good plan, cause they will have to get all devices
working before it is shipped out to you. 

It might be a good idea to review what modules are loaded with an
"lsmod" b4 you wipe all the partitions.  That way, if you've got
something exotic, you've got a heads up on it before you go into the
Mandrake installation.

Not saying that LM won't autodetect everything.  But the info may come
in handy.

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Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Partition hell - longish

2003-01-27 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 10:16, FemmeFatale wrote:

> poor anne meant this for the list.
> -
> FemmeFatale
> 

Shit...she's back. Gotta straighten up again.

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Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

2003-01-27 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 10:01, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> On Monday 27 January 2003 09:49 pm, Sabin, Matthew wrote:
> > I'm running 9.0 on an Optiplex GX110 PIII 500MHz box. 
> > I'm a bit light on RAM, so I'm running BlackBox -- it's
> > faster than when I had NT4.0 on the box, and no reboots
> > yet (4 months)
> >
> > --Matthew
> >
> Thanks, Matthew. That encourages me bigtime. The one I have 
> in mind has a P4 2GHz with 512 MB RAM, so I guess that's 
> all right.
> >

What kinda video card does it have - and how much RAM on it?
What size the disks? What kinda CDROM unit it got? C'mon - details!
Details!

I reckon that if it's that fast, it might just run Mandrake...

(Let the flames begin)

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[newbie] ANNOUCEMENT: KDE 3.1 IS OUT

2003-01-27 Thread Stephen Kuhn
Just though y'all would like to know that.

Now we can sit back and watch the complete and utter chaos.

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[newbie] IGNORE!!!

2003-01-27 Thread Damian Gatabria


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Re: [newbie] xawtv config and recording

2003-01-27 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 26 January 2003 08:13 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:

> It's part of the xawtv package. :D
>
> Jerry

Odd, I've got the stock XawTV here, with v9.0 and if I type in that command 
you posted I get an error telling me that streamer can't be found. Is it 
something separate from XawTV that has to be installed? Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] Merging 2 files

2003-01-27 Thread yankl
On Monday 27 January 2003 04:42 pm, Joan Tur wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> I'd like to merge file A with file B creating file C... how could I do
> that?
>
> I've had a look at cp's man with no luck  O8-)
>
> Thanks!!
One of the way is to use cat.

#cat A B > C

Actuly it work with any number of elements

#cat in_file1, in_file2, ... , in_fileN > out_file

or even

#cat * > out_file

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Re[2]: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

2003-01-27 Thread hihorsenews
I have MDK 9.0 installed on Dell Optiplex GX1, with 350MHz PII, 352meg
of ram helps.  It runs fine, although, for some reason, i have had
some problem, with losing it on network after a few hours of
inactivity.  I dont know why. That has been only problem with it.

 I got so tired of that problem, however, i reinstalled Xandros on
another partition, and am using that currently on that machine.
Xandros doenst recognize the onboard sound card, but otherwise works
well.
---

Monday, January 27, 2003, 7:11:44 PM, you wrote:

J> On Monday 27 January 2003 05:38 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
>> Anyone here managed to install Mandrake 9.0 upon a Dell
>> Optiplex ? - If yes, what's your mileage / experience ?
>>
>> My reason for asking : I just contacted Dell Denmark and
>> asked for an *empty* Optiplex. They were quite negative,
>> asking why I don't want Windows preinstalled. I told them
>> that I wanted to install Mandrake. Long pause. Then they
>> cheered up quite a bit : Actually, they could deliver an
>> Optiplex with Linux ( RedHat, I suppose) preinstalled !
>>
>> Now, I intend to purchase the thingy and install Mandrake,
>> figuring I can put the golden star upon the red hat.
>>

J> I have run Mandrake on GX1's to the newer GX260. Mandrake loaded and ran 
J> just fine. Even got to watch DVD's on the GX260.




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Re: [newbie] V4Linux Grabber

2003-01-27 Thread Jerry Barton
On 28 Jan 2003 06:09:34 +1100
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

CHOP!
> 
> Did you also install the "compatibility" libs?
> 
> On a side note, sometimes the compiles act a bit more nicely with:
> 
> ./configure --prefix=/usr
> 
> (I'll assume that's where your KDEDIR base is set?)
> 
CHOP

compat libs... for KDE?  I know it needs nasm and there's nasm-compat libs and no i 
don't think i installed those..   I'll try --prefix=/usr let's see..

hmmm... same problem.  I'll try installing nasm-compat libs.


installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk.i586.rpm

Preparing...##
Installation failed:
file /usr/bin/nasm from install of nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk conflicts with file 
from package nasm-0.98.34-1mdk
file /usr/bin/ndisasm from install of nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk conflicts with 
file from package nasm-0.98.34-1mdk
file /usr/share/info/nasm.info-1.bz2 from install of nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk 
conflicts with file from package nasm-0.98.34-1mdk
file /usr/share/info/nasm.info-10.bz2 from install of nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk 
conflicts with file from package nasm-0.98.34-1mdk
file /usr/share/info/nasm.info-2.bz2 from install of nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk 
conflicts with file from package nasm-0.98.34-1mdk
file /usr/share/info/nasm.info-3.bz2 from install of nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk 
conflicts with file from package nasm-0.98.34-1mdk
file /usr/share/info/nasm.info-4.bz2 from install of nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk 
conflicts with file from package nasm-0.98.34-1mdk
file /usr/share/info/nasm.info-5.bz2 from install of nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk 
conflicts with file from package nasm-0.98.34-1mdk
file /usr/share/info/nasm.info-6.bz2 from install of nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk 
conflicts with file from package nasm-0.98.34-1mdk
file /usr/share/info/nasm.info-7.bz2 from install of nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk 
conflicts with file from package nasm-0.98.34-1mdk
file /usr/share/info/nasm.info-8.bz2 from install of nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk 
conflicts with file from package nasm-0.98.34-1mdk
file /usr/share/info/nasm.info-9.bz2 from install of nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk 
conflicts with file from package nasm-0.98.34-1mdk
file /usr/share/info/nasm.info.bz2 from install of nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk 
conflicts with file from package nasm-0.98.34-1mdk
file /usr/share/man/man1/nasm.1.bz2 from install of nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk 
conflicts with file from package nasm-0.98.34-1mdk
file /usr/share/man/man1/ndisasm.1.bz2 from install of nasm-compat-0.98-9mdk 
conflicts with file from package nasm-0.98.34-1mdk

eek!

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Re: [newbie] xawtv config and recording

2003-01-27 Thread Jerry Barton
SNIP
> Hmm, just out of total (admittedly ignorant) curiosity - where does "streamer" 
> come from? (package?)
> 
> Thanks! :-)
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It's part of the xawtv package. :D

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Re: [newbie] Merging 2 files

2003-01-27 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 08:42, Joan Tur wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Hallo!
> 
> I'd like to merge file A with file B creating file C... how could I do that?
> 
> I've had a look at cp's man with no luck  O8-)
> 
> Thanks!!
> - -- 
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You can use either cp or sed to do that - sed might be a better bet,
though...but I'm sure there's more than 1000 ways of doing it - and
everyone else will pipe in with their version! (g)

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Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

2003-01-27 Thread Jose
On Monday 27 January 2003 05:38 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> Anyone here managed to install Mandrake 9.0 upon a Dell
> Optiplex ? - If yes, what's your mileage / experience ?
>
> My reason for asking : I just contacted Dell Denmark and
> asked for an *empty* Optiplex. They were quite negative,
> asking why I don't want Windows preinstalled. I told them
> that I wanted to install Mandrake. Long pause. Then they
> cheered up quite a bit : Actually, they could deliver an
> Optiplex with Linux ( RedHat, I suppose) preinstalled !
>
> Now, I intend to purchase the thingy and install Mandrake,
> figuring I can put the golden star upon the red hat.
>

I have run Mandrake on GX1's to the newer GX260. Mandrake loaded and ran 
just fine. Even got to watch DVD's on the GX260.

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Re: [newbie] Re:Back to Basics

2003-01-27 Thread robin
civileme wrote:

On Monday 27 January 2003 06:27 am, robin wrote:


On the subject of memory, would converting a Celeron box to Linux bypass
the problem that Celeron chips in Windows canonly utilise a certain
amount of memory?  We have a Celeron with 32MB of RAM, and have been
told there is no point in adding RAM because the chip wouldn't be able
to access it.



ROFLMAO

Ummm, as far as I know, some MOTHERBOARDS have limits on memory, but it is not 
bound to the processor used.  The Motherboards that support Celeron all 
support at least 128M, unless you are using a celeron-driven control device 
(why would that not surprise me?) like unto the SIMM and DIMM devices of 
Arcturus.

Anyway, linux handles memory so differently from Windows that indeed the 512Mb 
limit of 95 and 98 is easily breached, and linux tends to run faster the more 
memory you add up to 1 Gb, at least.  After that, the memory model supported 
gets a little more taxing in overhead, but once past that, the speed again 
tends to increase with additional memory.

But I would like to meet the person who told you it was pointless to go beyond 
32Mb with a Celeron.  I know someone who has this bridge for sale, you see, 
and he could make a BUNDLE with toll booths on it

Thanks, Civileme - that was the answer I was hoping for and more-or-less 
expected.  I have included it in a post to our 
person-with-the-purse-strings.  Depending on whether we can get any new 
computers in our office, this will either be one for teachers to use, or 
(best-case scenario) will stay in our tutorial area for students to use, 
in which case I have permission to install Linux on it for security 
reasons.  I've learnt from Microsoft that FUD is a good tactic, and I 
told our new head of department in no uncertain terms that having 
students putting their floppy disks into one of our LAN-connected boxes 
is asking for trouble.  The difference, of course, is that my fear, 
uncertainty and doubt is backed up by solid facts - allow Joe Student to 
put an  infected disk into your Windows machine and Network Neighborhood 
will do the rest.

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Re: [newbie] problem - file/directory permissions using samba AND nfs

2003-01-27 Thread Steve Jeppesen
On 27 Jan 2003 16:25:43 +1100
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you want a truly open/public share, you can do like this:
> 
> [ddrive]
>   comment = D Drive
>   path = /mnt/d-drive
>   read only = No
>   public = Yes

I changed that share to this;
[shared]
writable = Yes
path = /mnt/shared/shared
read only = No
public = Yes
 
> ...that's it...but you do have to set the security level to SHARE
> instead of USER.

And the security level has always been set to SHARE.

I think the problem is since I am not using samba for my linux p.c. to
connect to the linux server, NFS is keeping my permissions on anything I
create into the shared directory - thus no one using samba can add
anything or change what I create within the same shared folder.

Is there any way to make NFS change anything I create on the linux
server to a "public" share so to speak?  Other than the fact that after
I create a file or folder in the shared folder - I can go back into and
chmod 0777 ...but that would be a hassle to do everytime.

Thanks for the help Stephen, I should have seen that one myself but ya
know sometimes ppl need to just take a break from something that is not
going right and come back to it later with a fresh mind set.

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Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2

2003-01-27 Thread g

Paul wrote:

> Yup, no problem. I am of course NOT going to twiddle the running drives
> around, but they function wonderfully either on the side or straight up.


changing hd position was meant to be after power off and spin down. i have seen
drives develop problems and only run at new angle. i know of one drive that is
running for 8 years now, raised 1.5" on left side.

> So
> it is the mobo, as Marc and et also already suspected.
>
> Too bad. This ASUS board was pricey. But then, even good things can die an
> early death.

do not give up on board. i had a problem with one box where cpu was over heating.
adding a fan and clearing drive cables from around cpu allowed air to flow and
cpu cooled down.

adding silicon heat sink compound will help make cpu run cooler, if you have not
already applied.

> Re temperature/sensors: I did indeed have Gkrellm set up wrong. The high
> value as reported by sensors is +40C (I found a multiplier x2 in Gkrellm)
> and the limit is reportedly +60C, so that should be all fine.

if you improve air flow and now that you have sensors straight, test again.

all is not lost yet.

> Thanks for all the help, once more.

most welcome.

> You are a wonderful bunch people!!

my last wife does not think i am. but that is why she is my ex. :)


peace out.

tc,hago.

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Fwd: Re: [newbie] Partition hell - longish

2003-01-27 Thread FemmeFatale



On Monday 27 Jan 2003 9:39 pm, you wrote:

>
> Well, then there's all the more reason to either git'em all working
> under MDK or through Win4lin or some other means (VMWare?) - gotta make
> it easier on ya kiddo...

The odd items of software I need are no problem - win4lin does fine for me.
It's just these odd items of hardware, camera, cf/sm reader and a scsi film
scanner (though I haven't spent much time on that one yet).  I understand
there is an alpha driver that might work for the scanner, so I might try that
later.

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Re: [newbie] Partition hell - longish

2003-01-27 Thread FemmeFatale
At 10:20 PM 1/27/2003 +, you wrote:

On Monday 27 Jan 2003 9:39 pm, you wrote:

>
> Well, then there's all the more reason to either git'em all working
> under MDK or through Win4lin or some other means (VMWare?) - gotta make
> it easier on ya kiddo...

The odd items of software I need are no problem - win4lin does fine for me.
It's just these odd items of hardware, camera, cf/sm reader and a scsi film
scanner (though I haven't spent much time on that one yet).  I understand
there is an alpha driver that might work for the scanner, so I might try that
later.

Anne
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Heh I'll forward this to the list for you Anne.  Seems you sent it my way 
accidentally :)

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Re: [newbie] Merging 2 files

2003-01-27 Thread Miark
If you want to preserve the original files: 

  cat fileA fileB > fileC

Miark


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> I'd like to merge file A with file B creating file C... how could I do that?
> 
> I've had a look at cp's man with no luck  O8-)
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Re: [newbie] Partition hell - longish

2003-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 9:39 pm, you wrote:

>
> Well, then there's all the more reason to either git'em all working
> under MDK or through Win4lin or some other means (VMWare?) - gotta make
> it easier on ya kiddo...

The odd items of software I need are no problem - win4lin does fine for me.  
It's just these odd items of hardware, camera, cf/sm reader and a scsi film 
scanner (though I haven't spent much time on that one yet).  I understand 
there is an alpha driver that might work for the scanner, so I might try that 
later.

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Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

2003-01-27 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Monday 27 January 2003 09:49 pm, Sabin, Matthew wrote:
> I'm running 9.0 on an Optiplex GX110 PIII 500MHz box. 
> I'm a bit light on RAM, so I'm running BlackBox -- it's
> faster than when I had NT4.0 on the box, and no reboots
> yet (4 months)
>
> --Matthew
>
Thanks, Matthew. That encourages me bigtime. The one I have 
in mind has a P4 2GHz with 512 MB RAM, so I guess that's 
all right.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [newbie] Merging 2 files

2003-01-27 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Monday 27 January 2003 09:42 pm, Joan Tur wrote:

> Hallo!
>
> I'd like to merge file A with file B creating file C...
> how could I do that?
>
> I've had a look at cp's man with no luck  O8-)

cat file2 >> file1

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Re: [newbie] Logitech MX700 Cordless Optical Mouse on Mandrake 9.0+?

2003-01-27 Thread et
On Monday 27 January 2003 04:17 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:20:50 -0800 (PST)
>
> T E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am considering a new mouse.  It is the Logitech
> > MX700 Cordless Optical Mouse.  I would like to know if
> > it is compatible with Mandrake 9.0 or higher.  And in
> > the event that I have to downgrade, how about 8.2?
>
> I've got 1 that I plan to install tomorrow.
> I do not anticipate any problem but I'll let you know.
>
>
> Charles
>
> 
I have used a logitech cordless mouse and keyboard for about a year, no 
problem other than mouse batteries going bad.


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Re: [newbie] Re:Back to Basics

2003-01-27 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 02:27, robin wrote:
> On the subject of memory, would converting a Celeron box to Linux bypass 
> the problem that Celeron chips in Windows canonly utilise a certain 
> amount of memory?  We have a Celeron with 32MB of RAM, and have been 
> told there is no point in adding RAM because the chip wouldn't be able 
> to access it.
> 
> Sir Robin

That's complete rubbish.
This production box here is a Celery 1200mhz w/ 512mb of RAM running
linux. I've installed Slackware, RedHat, Mandrake, Gentoo, Knoppix -
aside from BeOS, OS/2, Win95/98/ME/2k/XP, and SCO x86. I'm more than
certainly seeing more than 32mb of RAM...

Under Windows, it WORKED  quite well - that is, under a normal
installation of Windows - which is all gone now - but even "virtually"
using VMWare...nary a prob...

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Re: [newbie] Linking partitions

2003-01-27 Thread civileme
On Monday 27 January 2003 08:03 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Partly because I have win4lin, which puts windows in my home directory, and
> partly because I am encouraging the grandchildren to backup to my machine,
> including Drive Images, the home partition is filling up faster than I
> anticipated.  It's not drastic yet, still about 1Gb free, but alarm bells
> are ringing.
>
> I have an unused ext3 partition.  I am sure that I once read that it is
> possible to link two partitions so that they are treated as one.  Can
> someone tell me how to go about it?  Thanks
>
> Anne


Make a backup of all data and the partition table first  (after backing up the 
data, go to Mandrake Control->Mountpoints->Hard disk and toggle to expert 
mode to make the backup floppy.)

Now you take the /home partition and the spare partition and change their 
types to Linux LVM

Then you add each one of them to LVM
then you name the LVM mount point /home

now you mount /home and copy back your backup data (as made with backuponCD or 
scdbackup)

And the two partitions are linked and treated logically as one partition.

If instead you want to make the spare purely for backup and you have a 
separate /home/backup/ type directory, you can set up the spare partition, 
copy the /home/backup data to it after mounting it temporarily under some 
name, then unmount it and remount it as /home/backup/  This does not provide 
the flexibility of LVM but it is a whole lot simpler.

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Re: [newbie] Canon printer not printing from win2k

2003-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 5:13 pm, et wrote:
> On Monday 27 January 2003 12:06 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Monday 27 Jan 2003 5:01 pm, et wrote:
> > > I don't doubt that this is a win2k problem, and not a MDK problem, but
> > > heck this is still the best place I know and for this problem
> > > STFW-google just has so much info to sift through maybe someone has
> > > seen something about this and can shove me in the right direction
> > >
> > > I just was attempting to set up a canon BJC240 (connected to lpt1 via
> > > cups on MDK 9.0) to print from either a winME or win2k box. it prints
> > > (but not correctly of course) using a different printer driver, so I am
> > > pretty damn sure the networkk works, and the printer is seen... etc..
> > > any ideas?
> >
> > Have you tried it with Windows drivers on the ME or W2K box?  I tried the
> > samba way and couldn't get things working, but Stephen advised me to do
> > it this way and it works.
> >
> > Anne
>
> hmmm,,, not sure,, I am setting it up in win2k, and it finds a printer on
> the samba server, and wants to add printer drivers, adn does, and I am
> pretty sure it is finding and using the same printer drivers that work when
> the print connected box is booted to win ME.

Fair enough, but in my experience the windows supplied drivers are very much 
cut down compared to the manufacturer's ones.  I don't know if it would make 
any difference, but it might be worth trying.  Stephen may have more to add 
when he comes on line later.

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Re: [newbie] Re:Back to Basics

2003-01-27 Thread Charlie
On Monday 27 January 2003 08:27 am, robin wrote:
> et wrote:
> >just so you know, "virtual memory" means different things to differnet
> > people and different OSs, so if you are reading about cpu registers and
> > mem pages, that is one thing, but the way M$ products handle memory is so
> > different from other OSs and in some books the wording looks as if the M$
> > way of looking at memory is _the_ way.
>
> On the subject of memory, would converting a Celeron box to Linux bypass
> the problem that Celeron chips in Windows canonly utilise a certain
> amount of memory?  We have a Celeron with 32MB of RAM, and have been
> told there is no point in adding RAM because the chip wouldn't be able
> to access it.
>
> Sir Robin

Say WHAT? 

My neighbor's old Celeron 366 MHZ box that his son uses had 64 MB of RAM when 
he bought it back in '98. It now runs 192 MB since I had a spare 128 MB stick 
of PC 100 lying around here. I plugged it in when I was there to set up their 
internet connection sharing. 

BTW 192 MB seems to be "the sweet spot" for Windows 98 SE. If there is such a 
thing. 

Both boxes dual boot Mandrake with Windows. The aforementioned 98 SE on one, 
XP Pro on the other. The question isn't how much memory will the processor 
utilize, it's how much have you got, and how much will the motherboard's 
chipset address. My old reliable BX6 Rev2 (ABit) was once able to use all 4 
memory slots (256 MB each max) but seems not to like using more than two now. 
It's old. Other things lead me to believe that a re-flash of the BIOS may 
correct this problem but I won't until I can gather the components to build a 
new box to my liking.

As long as the board manufacturer has certified that the board will use xxx 
amount of RAM the processor will use whatever that maximum is usually. The OS 
on the other hand

I'd check the MB's manufacturer for information before I believe that kind of 
statement Robin.

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Re: [newbie] xawtv config and recording

2003-01-27 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 26 January 2003 12:24 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:
> OK here's the sample command i use for my system  (your dev entry may be
> different, video/audio formats can be changed, etc)
>
>
>  streamer -o capture.avi -f mjpeg -O capture.wav -F mono8 -C /dev/sound/dsp
> -t 5:00 -c /dev/v4l/video0 -r 29.97
>
> this will capture 5 minutes from the last channel xawtv was tuned to
>
> HTH
> Jerry.

Hmm, just out of total (admittedly ignorant) curiosity - where does "streamer" 
come from? (package?)

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Re: [newbie] ? Mandrake 9 and faces-1.61-16mdk.i586 Error

2003-01-27 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 27 January 2003 12:48 pm, Abid Latif Sheikh wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I am unable to surpass the error of not having the subject package being
> installed successfully and so does my Mandrake installation fails as well.
> I tried different options but of no use. Any help, how can I skip its
> installation ?
>
> Abid

You can pick individual package selection and deselect the checkmark next to 
that package. That should do it.

I'd be worried that more than 1 package is bad, and questioning the validity 
of the CD-ROM you are using. Got a backup?

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[newbie] Lost screensavers (3D-accel.)

2003-01-27 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Okay, I was getting some problems with games segfaulting on me, so I decided 
to use the latest Nvidia drivers instead of the default ones installed with 
v9.0. 

I did the usual tarball route, then make, then looking at XF86Config-4, which 
looked like was already set from the stock install.

So...I get the splash screen, the games work (but I've not played them long 
enough to see if they segfault yet), but nowall of my screensavers that 
use 3D acceleration don't work. I can go into the Control Center, then Look 
'n Feel, then screensaversand the hard drive thrashes furiously, mouse 
goes jerky, and the screensaver never shows up in the preview box. Also, if I 
let one of the screensavers set until it kicks in on my desktop, X crashes 
back out the console.

I'm sure some link/connection got destroyed when I upgraded the drivers 
(although I've never had this happen before), so has anyone had this happen 
and know how to fix it?

PS I did remove the kdeartwork package for the screensavers and reinstall it. 
It made no difference.

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Re: [newbie] xawtv config and recording

2003-01-27 Thread Jerry Barton
SNIP
> what video card are you useing? and if NVidia, are you useing the nv 
> (opensource) or the NVidiadrivers,and which ones?
> 
> 
it's an ATI TV Wonder VE

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Re: [newbie] xawtv config and recording

2003-01-27 Thread et
On Sunday 26 January 2003 12:55 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:19:42 -0500
>
> et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > on xawtv, right click for the menu, at the bottom there is a setting for
> > capture, the choices on mine are "overlay" "grabdisplay" or "off". and I
> > am pretty sure it has to do with your video cards capabilities as well as
> > the software installed.
>
> SNIP
>
> et, you know, i hadn't tried changing that before.  H let's go see :) 
> (the only one that will display is "overlay") I tried changing to
> "grabdisplay" and "off" both on mine but still got "grabbing: not
> supported"  Even when using the streamer command i put in previously in the
> thread, if xawtv (or zapping, or motv, etc...) was running it would give me
> a "device busy" error.  I'm sure it has to do with the hardware
> capabilities / compatibility.  Thought it odd though that back when i still
> had windows on here i could watch and record at the same time but under
> linux i have to stop watching to record.  v4l seems to be a tricky thing
> LOL.  (I can't even get kwinTV to see my card, for example) So I'll offer
> up what worked for me.
>
> thanks for the suggestion!
>
> ;-)
>
> Jerry.
what video card are you useing? and if NVidia, are you useing the nv 
(opensource) or the NVidiadrivers,and which ones?


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Re: [newbie] ? Mandrake 9 and faces-1.61-16mdk.i586 Error

2003-01-27 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 5:48 pm, Abid Latif Sheikh wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I am unable to surpass the error of not having the subject package being
> installed successfully and so does my Mandrake installation fails as well.
> I tried different options but of no use. Any help, how can I skip its
> installation ?
>
> Abid

Abid. Do you mean that you are trying to install Mandrake 9.0 on your computer 
and it is failing when installing the faces package?


If so, it is likely that you either have a bad CD, or else your CD-ROM is 
unable to read 700 MB CDs.

Mandrake 9.0 requires 700MB CDs, but some older CD-ROMS can only read 650MB.

If I have misunderstood your question please explain again.

derek

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Re: [newbie] xawtv config and recording

2003-01-27 Thread Jerry Barton
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:19:42 -0500
et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on xawtv, right click for the menu, at the bottom there is a setting for 
> capture, the choices on mine are "overlay" "grabdisplay" or "off". and I am 
> pretty sure it has to do with your video cards capabilities as well as the 
> software installed.
> 
> 
> 
SNIP

et, you know, i hadn't tried changing that before.  H let's go see :)  (the only 
one that will display is "overlay") I tried changing to "grabdisplay" and "off" both 
on mine but still got "grabbing: not supported"  Even when using the streamer command 
i put in previously in the thread, if xawtv (or zapping, or motv, etc...) was running 
it would give me a "device busy" error.  I'm sure it has to do with the hardware 
capabilities / compatibility.  Thought it odd though that back when i still had 
windows on here i could watch and record at the same time but under linux i have to 
stop watching to record.  v4l seems to be a tricky thing LOL.  (I can't even get 
kwinTV to see my card, for example) So I'll offer up what worked for me.

thanks for the suggestion!

;-)

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[newbie] ? Mandrake 9 and faces-1.61-16mdk.i586 Error

2003-01-27 Thread Abid Latif Sheikh
Hi:

I am unable to surpass the error of not having the subject package being
installed successfully and so does my Mandrake installation fails as well. I
tried different options but of no use. Any help, how can I skip its
installation ?

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Re: [newbie] mandrake administration

2003-01-27 Thread civileme
On Monday 27 January 2003 08:02 am, Search Info wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I want to get familiar with mandrake administration tasks such as of a DNS,
> firewall, mailing system, etc. Can i simulate this on my single machine
> wich is in a lan, and without direct connection to the internet?
>
> Thanks


If the LAN is using TCP/IP you certainly can do so.

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Re: [newbie] Re:Back to Basics

2003-01-27 Thread Under Alanis Swept

- Original Message -
From: et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Re:Back to Basics


I sure never heard of such a problem with celerys... my understanding was
the
MoBo chipset and bios was where the max mem was reached... what kinda box is
that? tell me more..

yup, it depends on mobo chipset and its bios, please verify at the mobo's
manual book about max amount of memory it can hold



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Re: [newbie] xawtv config and recording

2003-01-27 Thread Jerry Barton
OK here's the sample command i use for my system  (your dev entry may be different, 
video/audio formats can be changed, etc)


 streamer -o capture.avi -f mjpeg -O capture.wav -F mono8 -C /dev/sound/dsp -t 5:00 -c 
/dev/v4l/video0 -r 29.97

this will capture 5 minutes from the last channel xawtv was tuned to

HTH
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[newbie] MandrakeOnline?

2003-01-27 Thread Terry Sheltra
Pardon the newbieness ,

Is there a way to schedule a computer that's registered with 
MandrakeOnline to do updates earlier in the day than around midnight? 
Still a newbie when it comes to this command line stuff .. lol :-)

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Re: [newbie] xawtv config and recording

2003-01-27 Thread et
on xawtv, right click for the menu, at the bottom there is a setting for 
capture, the choices on mine are "overlay" "grabdisplay" or "off". and I am 
pretty sure it has to do with your video cards capabilities as well as the 
software installed.



On Sunday 26 January 2003 12:15 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:
> I posted on this not too long ago... it's in the archives in December
>
> basically what you need to do is:  use xawtv to tune to the channel you
> want to record, close xawtv, then use the "streamer" command (see man
> streamer) to record.  (I have my tv cable hooked to my computer and a
> television sitting next to the desk so i can monitor recording there.)
>
>
> I'll see if i can dig up the command I used and post it for you.
>
> I could not find a way to use the xawtv gui to record with.
>
>
>
>
> SNIP
>
> > When I open the recording window and try to click record I get
> >
> >   "grabbing: not supported"
> >
> > Any pointers on what I should look at next getting the v4l part to
> > compile without error?
> > --
> > magnet
>
> SNIP
>
> Jerry.



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Re: [newbie] cups problems

2003-01-27 Thread et
damn that was stupid of me I hijacked someone elses thread... so sorry please 
disreguard my reply

On Monday 27 January 2003 12:10 pm, et wrote:
> On Monday 27 January 2003 09:04 am, Damian Gatabria wrote:
> > On Sunday 26 January 2003 08:36, Colin Jenkins wrote:
> > > I have 2 linux boxes (mdk9) both using 2 printers on an NT box.
> > > on one box, trying to delete a print job with cups, no problems, on the
> > > other box, I get 'client-error-forbidden'. (even when logged on as
> > > root) I am also unable to delete some non-existant printers from both
> > > machines, they appear to delete, but when I reload, they are back
> > > again. anyone got any ideas (relevant of course) :)
> >
> > try copying the file /etc/cups/cupsd.conf from the machine that behaves
> > correctly to the other one. might help.
> >
> >
> > Damian
>
> only the printer server, where the printer is connected to the lpt, is
> running linux when I have the problem, and it prints fine linux to linux,
> only problem is win2k or winme to linux



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Re: [newbie] xawtv config and recording

2003-01-27 Thread Jerry Barton
I posted on this not too long ago... it's in the archives in December 

basically what you need to do is:  use xawtv to tune to the channel you want to 
record, close xawtv, then use the "streamer" command (see man streamer) to record.  (I 
have my tv cable hooked to my computer and a television sitting next to the desk so i 
can monitor recording there.)


I'll see if i can dig up the command I used and post it for you.

I could not find a way to use the xawtv gui to record with.




SNIP

> When I open the recording window and try to click record I get
> 
>   "grabbing: not supported"
> 
> Any pointers on what I should look at next getting the v4l part to compile 
> without error?
> -- 
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SNIP

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Re: [newbie] Canon printer not printing from win2k

2003-01-27 Thread et
On Monday 27 January 2003 12:06 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 27 Jan 2003 5:01 pm, et wrote:
> > I don't doubt that this is a win2k problem, and not a MDK problem, but
> > heck this is still the best place I know and for this problem STFW-google
> > just has so much info to sift through maybe someone has seen
> > something about this and can shove me in the right direction
> >
> > I just was attempting to set up a canon BJC240 (connected to lpt1 via
> > cups on MDK 9.0) to print from either a winME or win2k box. it prints
> > (but not correctly of course) using a different printer driver, so I am
> > pretty damn sure the networkk works, and the printer is seen... etc..
> > any ideas?
>
> Have you tried it with Windows drivers on the ME or W2K box?  I tried the
> samba way and couldn't get things working, but Stephen advised me to do it
> this way and it works.
>
> Anne
hmmm,,, not sure,, I am setting it up in win2k, and it finds a printer on the 
samba server, and wants to add printer drivers, adn does, and I am pretty 
sure it is finding and using the same printer drivers that work when the 
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Re: [newbie] mandrake administration

2003-01-27 Thread Paul
In reply to Search's mail, d.d. Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:02:22 -0500:

>I want to get familiar with mandrake administration tasks such as of a DNS,
>firewall, mailing system, etc. Can i simulate this on my single machine
>wich is in a lan, and without direct connection to the internet?

Mail services should not be a problem, I think. I am not sure if DNS would
be appreciated by your lan admin. Firewall should not be a problem either.
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Re: [newbie] cups problems

2003-01-27 Thread et
On Monday 27 January 2003 09:04 am, Damian Gatabria wrote:
> On Sunday 26 January 2003 08:36, Colin Jenkins wrote:
> > I have 2 linux boxes (mdk9) both using 2 printers on an NT box.
> > on one box, trying to delete a print job with cups, no problems, on the
> > other box, I get 'client-error-forbidden'. (even when logged on as root)
> > I am also unable to delete some non-existant printers from both machines,
> > they appear to delete, but when I reload, they are back again. anyone got
> > any ideas (relevant of course) :)
>
> try copying the file /etc/cups/cupsd.conf from the machine that behaves
> correctly to the other one. might help.
>
>
> Damian
only the printer server, where the printer is connected to the lpt, is running 
linux when I have the problem, and it prints fine linux to linux, only 
problem is win2k or winme to linux


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Re: [newbie] Canon printer not printing from win2k

2003-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 5:01 pm, et wrote:
> I don't doubt that this is a win2k problem, and not a MDK problem, but heck
> this is still the best place I know and for this problem STFW-google just
> has so much info to sift through maybe someone has seen something about
> this and can shove me in the right direction
>
> I just was attempting to set up a canon BJC240 (connected to lpt1 via cups
> on MDK 9.0) to print from either a winME or win2k box. it prints (but not
> correctly of course) using a different printer driver, so I am pretty damn
> sure the networkk works, and the printer is seen... etc..
> any ideas?

Have you tried it with Windows drivers on the ME or W2K box?  I tried the 
samba way and couldn't get things working, but Stephen advised me to do it 
this way and it works.

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[newbie] Linking partitions

2003-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
Partly because I have win4lin, which puts windows in my home directory, and 
partly because I am encouraging the grandchildren to backup to my machine, 
including Drive Images, the home partition is filling up faster than I 
anticipated.  It's not drastic yet, still about 1Gb free, but alarm bells are 
ringing.  

I have an unused ext3 partition.  I am sure that I once read that it is 
possible to link two partitions so that they are treated as one.  Can someone 
tell me how to go about it?  Thanks

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Re: [newbie] cups problems

2003-01-27 Thread Damian Gatabria
On Sunday 26 January 2003 08:36, Colin Jenkins wrote:
> I have 2 linux boxes (mdk9) both using 2 printers on an NT box.
> on one box, trying to delete a print job with cups, no problems, on the
> other box, I get 'client-error-forbidden'. (even when logged on as root) I
> am also unable to delete some non-existant printers from both machines,
> they appear to delete, but when I reload, they are back again. anyone got
> any ideas (relevant of course) :)

try copying the file /etc/cups/cupsd.conf from the machine that behaves
correctly to the other one. might help.


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[newbie] mandrake administration

2003-01-27 Thread Search Info
Hello,

I want to get familiar with mandrake administration tasks such as of a DNS, firewall, 
mailing system, etc.
Can i simulate this on my single machine wich is in a lan, and without direct 
connection to the internet?

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[newbie] Canon printer not printing from win2k

2003-01-27 Thread et
I don't doubt that this is a win2k problem, and not a MDK problem, but heck 
this is still the best place I know and for this problem STFW-google just has 
so much info to sift through maybe someone has seen something about this 
and can shove me in the right direction

I just was attempting to set up a canon BJC240 (connected to lpt1 via cups on 
MDK 9.0) to print from either a winME or win2k box. it prints (but not 
correctly of course) using a different printer driver, so I am pretty damn 
sure the networkk works, and the printer is seen... etc..  
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Re: [newbie] Re:Back to Basics

2003-01-27 Thread civileme
On Monday 27 January 2003 06:27 am, robin wrote:
> et wrote:
> >just so you know, "virtual memory" means different things to differnet
> > people and different OSs, so if you are reading about cpu registers and
> > mem pages, that is one thing, but the way M$ products handle memory is so
> > different from other OSs and in some books the wording looks as if the M$
> > way of looking at memory is _the_ way.
>
> On the subject of memory, would converting a Celeron box to Linux bypass
> the problem that Celeron chips in Windows canonly utilise a certain
> amount of memory?  We have a Celeron with 32MB of RAM, and have been
> told there is no point in adding RAM because the chip wouldn't be able
> to access it.
>
> Sir Robin

ROFLMAO

Ummm, as far as I know, some MOTHERBOARDS have limits on memory, but it is not 
bound to the processor used.  The Motherboards that support Celeron all 
support at least 128M, unless you are using a celeron-driven control device 
(why would that not surprise me?) like unto the SIMM and DIMM devices of 
Arcturus.

Anyway, linux handles memory so differently from Windows that indeed the 512Mb 
limit of 95 and 98 is easily breached, and linux tends to run faster the more 
memory you add up to 1 Gb, at least.  After that, the memory model supported 
gets a little more taxing in overhead, but once past that, the speed again 
tends to increase with additional memory.

But I would like to meet the person who told you it was pointless to go beyond 
32Mb with a Celeron.  I know someone who has this bridge for sale, you see, 
and he could make a BUNDLE with toll booths on it

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Re: [newbie] Star Office Patch - Incredible

2003-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 8:33 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Following the problems I've had recently, I found that there is a patch
> available, so I downloaded it.  On installation I got error messages like
>
> An error occurred while unpacking the file basicsrvweb.zip.
> There is probably not enough disk space.
>
> This is unlikely.
>
> Has anyone else installed this patch?  Does anyone know what may have
> caused the problem.  I have probably messed up the original one now, so
> I'll have to uninstall and start again, but I would like to know whether it
> is worth trying the patch again.
>
> Anne

My attempt at installing the patch were late last night,  so I packed it in 
for the night, expecting to have to uninstall the whole shebang and start 
afresh.  This afternoon, however, out of curiosity I fired up StarWriter, 
expecting it to crash, but it didn't.  What's more, the files that had been 
showing up the problem would load correctly, I could copy and paste all I 
liked, and the whole thing looks stable!  I haven't tried the other 
components yet, as I don't use them as much.  

I'm going to go back to the website and see if another download will give me a 
cleaner install, but this result is amazing.  I can only suppose that the 
relevant bug fix was among the bits in managed to install.

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Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2

2003-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 3:31 pm, et wrote:
> On Monday 27 January 2003 04:04 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 11:12 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > > On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:06 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
> > > > Well.. for starters, P4's have MUCH better thermal resistance, not to
> > > > mention a thermal diode that can regulate the core CPU temperature if
> > > > the fan happens to fail, or if the heatsink happens to fall off..
> > > > Many 3rd party tests have shown that a P4 cpu can run even without a
> > > > heatsink, with no damage to the CPU at all.  It slows down if it
> > > > detects temperature overload, and prevents the core temp. from
> > > > reaching critical levels.. (Not to mention the 400-533mhz cache
> > > > speeds, compared to athlon's measly 200mhz.. :p)
> > >
> > > Thats interesting. I always thought that AMDs' chips were better
> > > performers at the same speed rangefrom what I've read. (but I'm no
> > > expert).
> >
> > Dertainly that's implied in most of the reviews I've read, which is why
> > they started the comparative numbering system.
> >
> > Anne
>
> the "comparative numbering system" is something they have been doing for
> years, and it seems to me to be a comparative pricing system more than
> speed.

Wasn't it Cyrix/IBM that used to do it?

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Re: [newbie] Re:Back to Basics

2003-01-27 Thread et
I sure never heard of such a problem with celerys... my understanding was the 
MoBo chipset and bios was where the max mem was reached... what kinda box is 
that? tell me more.. I don't buy such small mem with a celery
the only thing like that I know about is that celerys can't be smp, but I 
never had a problem.. I have a few celerys (a 366, a 500, and a 1200Mhz, none 
overclocked, all have some form of linux (2 mdk9.0, 1 rh 8.0, all just to 
play around) as well as dual booting into M$ as required/requested (1 ME, 2 
win2k) all with 512 meg mem. Winme and 9x won't boot with more than 512 megs 
mem. 

On Monday 27 January 2003 10:27 am, robin wrote:
> et wrote:
> >just so you know, "virtual memory" means different things to differnet
> > people and different OSs, so if you are reading about cpu registers and
> > mem pages, that is one thing, but the way M$ products handle memory is so
> > different from other OSs and in some books the wording looks as if the M$
> > way of looking at memory is _the_ way.
>
> On the subject of memory, would converting a Celeron box to Linux bypass
> the problem that Celeron chips in Windows canonly utilise a certain
> amount of memory?  We have a Celeron with 32MB of RAM, and have been
> told there is no point in adding RAM because the chip wouldn't be able
> to access it.
>
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Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2

2003-01-27 Thread et
On Monday 27 January 2003 04:04 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 11:12 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:06 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
> > > Well.. for starters, P4's have MUCH better thermal resistance, not to
> > > mention a thermal diode that can regulate the core CPU temperature if
> > > the fan happens to fail, or if the heatsink happens to fall off.. Many
> > > 3rd party tests have shown that a P4 cpu can run even without a
> > > heatsink, with no damage to the CPU at all.  It slows down if it
> > > detects temperature overload, and prevents the core temp. from reaching
> > > critical levels.. (Not to mention the 400-533mhz cache speeds, compared
> > > to athlon's measly 200mhz.. :p)
> >
> > Thats interesting. I always thought that AMDs' chips were better
> > performers at the same speed rangefrom what I've read. (but I'm no
> > expert).
>
> Dertainly that's implied in most of the reviews I've read, which is why
> they started the comparative numbering system.
>
> Anne
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Re: [newbie] Re:Back to Basics

2003-01-27 Thread robin
et wrote:


just so you know, "virtual memory" means different things to differnet people 
and different OSs, so if you are reading about cpu registers and mem pages, 
that is one thing, but the way M$ products handle memory is so different from 
other OSs and in some books the wording looks as if the M$ way of looking at 
memory is _the_ way.
 

On the subject of memory, would converting a Celeron box to Linux bypass 
the problem that Celeron chips in Windows canonly utilise a certain 
amount of memory?  We have a Celeron with 32MB of RAM, and have been 
told there is no point in adding RAM because the chip wouldn't be able 
to access it.

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Re: [newbie] Re:Back to Basics

2003-01-27 Thread et
just so you know, "virtual memory" means different things to differnet people 
and different OSs, so if you are reading about cpu registers and mem pages, 
that is one thing, but the way M$ products handle memory is so different from 
other OSs and in some books the wording looks as if the M$ way of looking at 
memory is _the_ way.

On Monday 27 January 2003 07:30 pm, Graham Pohle wrote:
> I will persist in acquiring the knowledge needed to operate this OS, but
> because there is a massive amount of reading to do before I can even
> begin to think I can operate this OS, let alone understand it, I'll be
> only dropping in like this from time to time to let you know that I'm
> still persisting with the learning curve. The workings of a computer are
> not as complex as I thought they were, it's just when you start adding
> software and various programs that it becomes complicated. So like I
> said, I'll be keeping in touch and if I do strike a problem that I
> cannot work out, I'll definitely come to this message board to ask the
> HOW TO on the What to do.
> I'm into virtual memory at the moment and it's impact on the various PC
> systems, ie; 386,486,and even the old 286. I even did a study peice on
> the old mainframe PCs where 36bits were in style.
> Anyway, I'm going to be a hell of programer when I finally get to know
> what I'm doing.
> See you soon.
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RE: [newbie] Installing InoculateIT

2003-01-27 Thread Jody Cleveland
Hello Stephen,

> Besides, you can use RAV if you're running an email server, and f-prot
> if you're running a Samba server - all to catch M$/Mac aimed 
> bugs...but definately a good thing!

Actually, here's my setup. Right now we've got an exchange server for mail.
I've gotten Squirrelmail running on a linux server pointing to that exchange
server. What we'd like to do now is to setup the linux box as a frontend to
the exchange server. Use linux to fight spam and antivirus. Is RAV good for
that?

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[newbie] Re:Back to Basics

2003-01-27 Thread Graham Pohle
I will persist in acquiring the knowledge needed to operate this OS, but
because there is a massive amount of reading to do before I can even
begin to think I can operate this OS, let alone understand it, I'll be
only dropping in like this from time to time to let you know that I'm
still persisting with the learning curve. The workings of a computer are
not as complex as I thought they were, it's just when you start adding
software and various programs that it becomes complicated. So like I
said, I'll be keeping in touch and if I do strike a problem that I
cannot work out, I'll definitely come to this message board to ask the
HOW TO on the What to do.
I'm into virtual memory at the moment and it's impact on the various PC
systems, ie; 386,486,and even the old 286. I even did a study peice on
the old mainframe PCs where 36bits were in style.
Anyway, I'm going to be a hell of programer when I finally get to know
what I'm doing.
See you soon.
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Re: [newbie] Computer freezes

2003-01-27 Thread Charles A Edwards
On 27 Jan 2003 18:21:50 +1100
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 7.) Move the 700 lb. cermaic magnet away from the computer casing.

If this is not the problem, then I am betting that you have an AMD
system.
What you are experiencing is a X lock-up.
Add mem=nopentium to your lilo append, run lilo and then reboot your
system.
This address a 'non-bug' on AMD system and AGP related to 4MB memory
paging.


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Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2

2003-01-27 Thread et
On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:12 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:06 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
> > Well.. for starters, P4's have MUCH better thermal resistance, not to
> > mention a thermal diode that can regulate the core CPU temperature if the
> > fan happens to fail, or if the heatsink happens to fall off.. Many 3rd
> > party tests have shown that a P4 cpu can run even without a heatsink,
> > with no damage to the CPU at all.  It slows down if it detects
> > temperature overload, and prevents the core temp. from reaching critical
> > levels.. (Not to mention the 400-533mhz cache speeds, compared to
> > athlon's measly 200mhz.. :p)
>
> Thats interesting. I always thought that AMDs' chips were better performers
> at the same speed rangefrom what I've read. (but I'm no expert).
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Re: [newbie] M9.1beta2 CD1andCD2

2003-01-27 Thread John Richard Smith
Robert Golovniov wrote:

>Hello John,
>
>Thursday, January 23, 2003, 2:00:47 AM, you wrote:
>
>JRS> I am willing to send free of charge to anyone easy postal distance
>JRS> to me in uk up to 5 persons.
>
>Can "uk" mean Ukraine also? :-)
>
>
>
U krane if you like .

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[newbie] TV-card

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Golovniov
Hello Mandrake,

  Can anybody on the list help me to choose between these cards:

  Kwordl TV-tuner / FM-tuner+Remote Control
  Kwordl TV-tuner MPEG / FM-tuner+RC
  Media Forte TV-tuner / FM-tuner+RC

  ÒV-tuner AVerMedia (model 203) (TV+RC+MPEG2)
  ÒV-tuner AVerMedia GoFM (TV+FM+RC)
  ÒV-tuner K-World BG/DK+RC (878-BK)
  ÒÂ-tuner +FM+MPEG1&2  K-World +RC (878-FBKM)
  ÒV-tuner +FM Animation +RC Fly video2000
  ÒV-tuner +FM Animation +RC Fly video3000 (stereo)
  ÒV-tuner Acorp 9Y878F( TV-tuner + FM-radio + RC )

  Unfortunately, for the first three cards I do not have any
  additional information yet. But perhaps the brand might help you to
  recommend me something.

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Re: [newbie] 'nother OT

2003-01-27 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 22:07, Lee wrote:
> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/134614233_paul13.html
> 
> I liked the riot better, though.

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Re: [newbie] M9.1beta2 CD1andCD2

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Golovniov
Hello John,

Thursday, January 23, 2003, 2:00:47 AM, you wrote:

JRS> I am willing to send free of charge to anyone easy postal distance
JRS> to me in uk up to 5 persons.

Can "uk" mean Ukraine also? :-)

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[newbie] 'nother OT

2003-01-27 Thread Lee
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/134614233_paul13.html

I liked the riot better, though.
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Re: [newbie] VMWare

2003-01-27 Thread Charlie
On Monday 27 January 2003 03:07 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 13:29, Chris Edwards wrote:
> > More info follows:
> >
> > Trying to install VMware-workstation-3.2.0-2230-i386.rpm on a Mandrake
> > 9.0 system.
> > I am newbie enough not to understand how to load kernel sources/headers.
> > I do know enough to get around on the command line and even attempt the
> > make, install, config routine.
> > I also know about texstar and rpmfind as usefull resources.
> >
> > What would be my first steps at installing VMware?
>
> You should be able to get the kernel sources installed via the Software
> Manager - and you may as well also install some of the developer stuff
> too - because you're going to end up needing some of the other gcc
> headers and source - believe me. Anyways, if you can't find the kernel
> stuff in the Software Manager, it's mostly on CD3 - and it's labled as
> kernel sources...
>
> I think that someone mentioned a nice way of installing the rpm's so
> that they automagically install the dependencies as well - any help
> y'all?

(leave out the quotes)

"urpmi " in terminal super user mode in the directory that 
contains the actual RPM; or from a source that the software manager 
recognizes as a source. eg.: any of the ftp mirrors for Mandrake, texstar, 
cooker (don't do it!), kde, or almost any site that you can point urpmi to 
for an hdlist.cz. OK? The easiest is just change directories to the one 
holding the rpm and go. I just add a /downloads directory in /home and 
install from there. At least I usually do when I'm playing with something 
other than cooker or a beta. :-) 
>
> Meanwhile, once you get that bit out of the way, the installation of
> VMware is rather easy. You run "vmware-config.pl" and follow the
> instructions (do this in a terminal window). Once that's done and it's
> installed properly, break out with a Win98 bootable installation CD and
> start VMWare (however you want to start it - just typing vmware in a
> term gets it going) - follow the wizard through how to create a virtual
> IDE drive and all that cool jazz, then once you've setup the virtual
> environment, click the "power on" button, make whatever changes are
> necessary to the "virtual bios", and begin the installation of your
> Win98 - this is a good starting point because after you mess with it
> enough you'll be confident in installing other biggies like WinXP and
> Win2k, or even like I do with loading other linuxes in VM's - even OS/2!
> (Never really got my BeOS going - but it's not like I'll cry over that
> one)

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Re: [newbie] cups problems

2003-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 9:44 am, Colin Jenkins wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:02:49 +
>
> Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I know the feeling :)  Have you tried deleting the unwanted printers in
> > MCC?
>
> Tried deleting from cups, webmin and KDE printing manager, same result.
> I guess it's the mandrake version of microsofts way of doing thing it's
> determined that at some time in the future, I WILL need these extra
> printers 

It's still worth deleting them in Mandrake Control Centre.  I think it will 
work - it did for me.

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Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images

2003-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 9:01 pm, AndrewD wrote:
> OK I have burnt the CD placed it in the CD Rom of the other computer,
> but it is still loading Linux (the PC currently has mandrake 9) and not
> the CD (and yes the PC does boot the cd first) so my next question is
> how do I now use the CD with the new ISO do I need to make it 'bootable'
> somehow.

The problem comes if you don't have the right setting on your burning program, 
so that the iso file is simply copied to disk.  I find k3b to be good in this 
situation, as the setting to use is obvious.  Burning the iso properly 
entails unpacking and burning the result, as I understand it.  Anyway, the 
results are very different from a copied file, and it will be bootable.

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Re: [newbie] Star Office Patch

2003-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 9:51 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 19:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Following the problems I've had recently, I found that there is a patch
> > available, so I downloaded it.  On installation I got error messages like
> >
> > An error occurred while unpacking the file basicsrvweb.zip.
> > There is probably not enough disk space.
> >
> > This is unlikely.
> >
> > Has anyone else installed this patch?  Does anyone know what may have
> > caused the problem.  I have probably messed up the original one now, so
> > I'll have to uninstall and start again, but I would like to know whether
> > it is worth trying the patch again.
> >
> > Anne
>
> If it's in a ZIP file, I'd be suss about it being for maybe Windows
> instead of for linux...

That's a point.  There was one for Windows, but I definitely selected the 
Linux one.  I think I'll just check out whether the win offered file is the 
same filename.  Surely not ??? Sun are only human, but I think this has been 
out for a good while, so I wouldn't have thought so.  Anyway, I'll check 
again, and maybe download again, just to be sure.

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[newbie] Star Office Patch

2003-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
Following the problems I've had recently, I found that there is a patch 
available, so I downloaded it.  On installation I got error messages like

An error occurred while unpacking the file basicsrvweb.zip.
There is probably not enough disk space.

This is unlikely.

Has anyone else installed this patch?  Does anyone know what may have caused 
the problem.  I have probably messed up the original one now, so I'll have to 
uninstall and start again, but I would like to know whether it is worth 
trying the patch again.

Anne
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[newbie] Mandrake Powerpack

2003-01-27 Thread Vaessen, E.M.J. (Ed)
Does anyone know if the Mandrake Powerpack comes with one or with two
manuals?
I ask this question because in some parts of the user manual things are
mentioned that you can find in the so-called "reference manual".

Ed

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