[newbie] Abiword in 9.0

[Rob Blomquist]

OK, I am new to Mandrake, but not Linux, I ran RH 6.2-8.0 where it 
died for me.

So now I am reasonably happy with Mandrake, but missing my abiword. I 
can't seem to find a rpm for it that will run. I purchased the 
download edition, and wonder if only the big spenders get it.

If its not available as an official rpm from Mandrake, is there a way 
around it other than source?

Rob
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On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux and 
lived
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RE: [newbie] SNMP

[gcobb]

Damn, I think I really meant SMS paging. :)

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chuck Burns
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] SNMP
> 
> 
> On Tue, January 28 2003 1:52 pm, et wrote:
> 
> > as a newbie, you might be better off to use the snmp server of your 
> > ISP, and just use a mail client like kmail just my .02$
> huh? et, I think you are confusing SNMP with SMTP, here...
> 
> -- 
> Chuck Burns, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ---==---
> The cost of living hasn't affected its popularity.
> 
> 
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[newbie] Samba info

[Robert Wideman]

I dont know about others but i cant find didly about the latest on the Samba
project.  Like: what is the latest on getting toward 3.0, are win2k
clients/servers able to browse linux samba shares (in ADS), full integration
with ADS, etc.  The reason why i am asking is because the latest i have read
is at:
http://techupdate.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t481-s2122363,00.html
And according to the FTP server for Samba (the same link that is on the
article) there hasnt been an update since Sept.
Unlike all other projects they dont give ANY type of updates, not even
monthly.
Also i just did a search on google
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=samba+3.0+rpm and it
comes up with alpa21 rpm's that was just posted this week on this list as
well, the rpm's were made the 25th

Any info is appreciated.
Thanks

Rob




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Re: [newbie] Creating & Installing SSL key for HTTPD

[Tim Holmes]

Well, I found where the other keys are kept: 

/etc/ssl/apache

I moved my keys into their places, but that doesn't work.  It just sits
and hangs at "Starting httpd:"

Is there something I'm missing, or should I bould mod_ssl and apache
from source to fix this?  Any ideas?
tdh

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| I've been trying to create a proper SSL key for https instead of the
| test one that's put in place during the install.  I found some mod_ssl
| docs in /var/www/html/addon-modules/mod_ssl-2.8.10, but something's not
| quite jiving.
| 
| If you check out
| /var/www/html/addon-modules/mod_ssl-2.8.10/ssl_faq.html it tells after
| you've created your new key, to edit your httpd.conf
| (/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf and add the following lines:
| 
|SSLCertificateFile /path/to/SSL_key.crt
|SSLCertificateKeyFile /path/to/SSL_key.key
| 
| I found this on some other docs I found online, but when I restart
| HTTPD, there's a problem:
| 
| Starting httpd: Syntax error on line 15 of httpd.conf:  Invalid command
| 'SSLCertificateFile', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not
| included in the server configuration
| 
| Are the docs just wrong?  Or was this not built into mod_ssl for
| Mandrake Apache?
| 
| 
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Re: [newbie] KDE File Association Problems

[Damian Gatabria]

On Wednesday 29 January 2003 04:01, Sevatio wrote:
> LM9.0, KDE3.0.5a
>
> I've gone into the KDE Control Module - File Associations Configuration
> and set xmms as the default player for mp3 & ogg files.  But it keeps
> playing those files with the KDE player.  Is this a bug with LM9.0?

How does it play the file? With an embedded applet, or in a separate
app? Check in the File Associations that there's "open file in new window"
selected. And also, i've found KDE tends to forget when you tell it 
to use an app that is not on the kmenu. Select xmms from the 
tree-view offered when you choose which program to use.

HTH

Damian

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[newbie] Creating & Installing SSL key for HTTPD

[Tim Holmes]

I've been trying to create a proper SSL key for https instead of the
test one that's put in place during the install.  I found some mod_ssl
docs in /var/www/html/addon-modules/mod_ssl-2.8.10, but something's not
quite jiving.

If you check out
/var/www/html/addon-modules/mod_ssl-2.8.10/ssl_faq.html it tells after
you've created your new key, to edit your httpd.conf
(/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf and add the following lines:

   SSLCertificateFile /path/to/SSL_key.crt
   SSLCertificateKeyFile /path/to/SSL_key.key

I found this on some other docs I found online, but when I restart
HTTPD, there's a problem:

Starting httpd: Syntax error on line 15 of httpd.conf:  Invalid command
'SSLCertificateFile', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not
included in the server configuration

Are the docs just wrong?  Or was this not built into mod_ssl for
Mandrake Apache?

Here's what apache RPMs I have installed, and mod_ssl version:

# rpm -qa | grep apache
apache-devel-1.3.26-6.1mdk
apache-conf-1.3.26-3mdk
apache-modules-1.3.26-6.1mdk
apache-mod_perl-1.3.26_1.27-7mdk
apache-1.3.26-6.1mdk
apache-common-1.3.26-6.1mdk
apache-source-1.3.26-6.1mdk
apache-suexec-1.3.26-2mdk
apache-manual-1.3.26-6.1mdk
# rpm -qa | grep mod_ssl
mod_ssl-2.8.10-5.1mdk

All of which, I'm pretty sure are up to date.  What do I need to do use
this key I've created?  Or heck, where's there current key placed?
Perhaps I'll just move my server.crt and server.key into their places
and use those.

Any help is always appreciated.  Thanks!
tdh

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RE: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

[Robert Wideman]

Personally.I used to work for Dell UNIX/Linux Server Support in Austin,
TX (Dell Headquarters).  RH is totally supported, and in general ANY Linux
and UNIX b/c Dell supports their HW and making sure it works.  FYI, Dell is
the # 1 distributor of Linux Servers Pre-installed(when i worked there).
http://lists.us.dell.com/   Dell is the #1 US Linux Server provider for 2001
and Q1-3 2002
http://www.dell.com/linux
Also, ALL OUTSIDE DELL SERVERS ARE RH LINUX.NOT WINDOWS.

The only thing is Dell in America will NOT talk to customers abroad (outside
the continental US).  I personally was on the Linux/UNIX Support Team from
August till May and i had the best time ever, until i left for hands-on
work.  I personally have had MDK 8.2 AND 9.0 installed on 2 Optiplex's (GX1
450 and G1 266), both ran perfectly except for the 3Com NIC's the driver
(module/kernel) puts a crap load of message/errors in /var/log/messages when
it changes negotiation (10 to 100 or FX to TX).  It didnt matter which
module/driver i used, i had even DLed Scyld's driver with same effect.  Also
i DLed the Scyld diagnostics tool and set it to 100TX and tried 100FX and
neither fixed the situation.  This is the only issue i have ever had.  I
have had 8.2 running since it came out till i updated to 9.0.  Everything
was recognized (i never used the soundcard in linux so that is untested for
me).  Other than these minor issues i have NEVER had a problem with ANY
Linux on ANY Optiplex's, again these systems have been out for years.  Of
course after a new system or server on my case, always have issues but are
tweaked/fixed within a few weeks from someone (RH or Dell Engineers).  Dell
Servers specifically has a mandatory meeting (conference call) with the RH
Engineers every week to find out the latest on any issues and such.
Personally, RH/MDK are the most widely used distros on Dell when i worked
there.  I do not use anything BUT Dell if i buy a system.  If you want to
get technical RH 7.0 came out b/c Dell forced RH out onto the market too
fast to sell Linux on Servers.  Within a few weeks (a lot faster than
normal) RH came out with 7.1 to fix the issues that werent fixed in 7.0.
Other than this EVERYTHING thing is tested before it is pre-installed on
Servers, dont know about Optiplex's.

Hope This Helps.

Robert Wideman, former Dell Linux/UNIX Server Support
Linux+, A+, I-Net+
MCP, CIW Associate


PS---If Dell states they dont support MDK, this is true b/c they sell RH
instead.  Workstation/Server Support does support the HW, not the OSto a
point.  IF something is NOT working just post it to the MDK mailing lists
and it will get sorted out fairly quickly.





>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kaj Haulrich
>> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 4:39 PM
>> To: Newbie
>> Subject: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
>>
>>
>> Anyone here managed to install Mandrake 9.0 upon a Dell
>> Optiplex ? - If yes, what's your mileage / experience ?
>>
>> My reason for asking : I just contacted Dell Denmark and
>> asked for an *empty* Optiplex. They were quite negative,
>> asking why I don't want Windows preinstalled. I told them
>> that I wanted to install Mandrake. Long pause. Then they
>> cheered up quite a bit : Actually, they could deliver an
>> Optiplex with Linux ( RedHat, I suppose) preinstalled !
>>
>> Now, I intend to purchase the thingy and install Mandrake,
>> figuring I can put the golden star upon the red hat.
>>
>> Comments ?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Kaj Haulrich.
>> ===
>> Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0
>> Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org
>> Source :  my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer.
>> ===
>>
>>



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[newbie] KDE File Association Problems

[Sevatio]

LM9.0, KDE3.0.5a

I've gone into the KDE Control Module - File Associations Configuration 
and set xmms as the default player for mp3 & ogg files.  But it keeps 
playing those files with the KDE player.  Is this a bug with LM9.0?

Thanks,
Sevatio


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Re: [newbie] problem - file/directory permissions using samba AND nfs

[Steve Jeppesen]

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:56:26 +
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't know anything about nfs really, but I just wondered if this
> suggestion would help.  Why not make a group for those users and make
> your default group to be that one? I would have thought that all of
> them would be able to use the files then, whether locally or remote.
> 
> Anne

I have tried doing this, but not too sure if I did everything correctly.

On the server;
groupadd smbusers
vi /etc/group  (and add all users behind smbusers row)
vi /etc/samba/smb.conf  (and change hosts allow to = @smbusers)

On my p.c. (not sure if I needed to but a coworker suggested it)
groupadd smbusers
vi /etc/group  (and add only myself as a user within smbusers group)
groupmod -g 507 smbusers   (to match gid of servers smbusers group)
usermod -g smbusers steve (steve being my user name)
and just incase;
usermod -G smbusers steve

Are those the actual steps I need to do or am I missing something?

I do not believe I need to make any changes to either my p.c. or the
servers NFS settings in order to incorporate the smbusers group. 

After doing all of this - including Stephens suggestion - permission
problems still exsist.

Steve

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Re: [newbie] xawtv config and recording

[Jerry Barton]

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:35:11 +
magnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

SNIP


> Yeap, same here. command "streamer" is not found as user or root and mine is 
> stock V9.0 install also.
> tv card is win-tv Go and gfx card is a juicy gforce Ti 4400 :)))
> -- 
> magnet
> 
SNIP

I built mine from source.  If you're going to use the latest (3.7.8) you'll need to 
upgrade your glibc (takes a lot but i got mine upgraded) but 3.7.2 will work just fine 
on 9.0 as it is.


HTH

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Re: [newbie] Theme Manager errors

[Dennis Myers]

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 08:16 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 January 2003 07:49 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > On Tuesday 28 January 2003 07:35 pm, Angus Auld wrote:
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 23:17, Angus Auld wrote:
> > > > > > > Greetings all,
> > > > > > > I have been content thus far with the default KDE theme,
> > > > > > > + a few modifications of my own thrown in, on my 9.0
> > > > > > > system. I decided to try another theme just for kicks, so
> > > > > > > I went to Theme Manager (via KDE Control Center), and attempted
> > > > > > > to make the changes there. To my surprise, I only get an error
> > > > > > > box for my effort : "Theme does not contain a .themerc nor a
> > > > > > > .theme file." and CC tells me it, "could not load theme."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I then tried to "create" a "new theme" of my current
> > > > > > > setup, only to be greeted by the exact same errors as
> > > > > > > already detailed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anybody have any thoughts as to what is going on with my "Theme
> > > > > > > Manager?"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > TIA for your time/help.
> > > > > > > Best regards.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --Angus
> > > > > >
> > > > > >***
> > > > > >Stephen Kuhn wrote,
> > > > > > I found that sometimes when the KDEDIR environment variable was
> > > > > > nonexistent it would choke and puke.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > export KDEDIR=/usr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >**
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Stephen, but that doesn't seem to be the problem here. I
> > > > > issued the command as user, but still no themes can be loaded in
> > > > > Theme Manager. Should it be done su'd?
> > > > > I don't have any problems compiling packages, so is that an
> > > > > indicator my environmental variables are OK?
> > > > >
> > > > > When I start kcontrol in a terminal, and try to access a theme, I
> > > > > get the following: $kcontrol
> > > > > fcntl: Bad file descriptor
> > > > > fcntl: Bad file descriptor
> > > > > $sh: line1: cd: /home/angus/.kde/share/apps/kthememgr/Work/: No
> > > > > such file or directory
> > > > >
> > > > > I just upgraded the kdebase package with the latest security update
> > > > > from MandrakeSecurity, and it contains kcontrol. I'm wondering if
> > > > > this has something to do with my problem. I have been getting a lot
> > > > > of the "fcntl: Bad file descriptor" errors in xsession-errors too.
> > > > > Never got these before. Any way to pinpoint the source of the
> > > > > error?
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Angus
> > > > >
> > > > > I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a
> > > > > week sometimes to make it up.--Mark Twain, "The Innocents Abroad"
> > > >
> > > > This is interesting, I have the exact same problem with both
> > > > computers that have 9.0 loaded. Does not matter if I am su or user.
> > > > Looks like a bug to me. But one of the comps does not have the latest
> > > > updates with kcontrol. So it seems to be an earlier problem. 
> > > > Puzzled.
> > > > --
> > > > Dennis M.  linux user # 180842
> > > >
> > > >***
> > >
> > > Hey, you mean I found a bug maybe?cool.
> > >
> > > This could well have been a preexistent, (pre-kdebase update) problem
> > > here too Dennis. I didn't feel the urge to deviate from my basic
> > > default theme as per installation, until now. Just getting bored I
> > > guess :-).
> > >
> > > I wonder if 9.1 Beta has this "bug"?
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > >
> > >> ***
> >
> > Don't know about 9.1 but I am downloading a theme from kde.look.org and
> > will try untarring and installing to see if the thememanager will work
> > with it. I never tried the themes in 9.0 because I did not like them when
> > I checked em out in the previous releases. Anyone else tried the
> > thememanager?
>
> Ok, couldn't get two of them to install via tar, here is the out put:
>
> [root@hotcomp Acqua-Graphite]# ./install.sh
> ./install.sh: line 6: cd: style: No such file or directory
> cp: cannot stat `pixmaps': No such file or directory
> cp: cannot stat `themes': No such file or directory
> cp: cannot stat `wallpapers': No such file or directory
> cp: cannot stat `icewm-themes': No such file or directory
> _KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
> DCOPServer up and running.
> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
> Acqua-Graphite for KDE installed.
>
> Then when I go to thememanager, it can't find anything. So it looks like
> something is missing or thememanager is broken. ??? Any ideas?

I take it back, after getting out of thememanager and then back into it the 
install method that the readme file calls for worked. I now have 
acqua-graphite as a theme.  The problem seems to be mor

Re: [newbie] OT-Homeland Security dumps winblows

[Greg]

If I wanted to have fun I would let several worms out at the same time  
Greg
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 8:29 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
>> Check this out:
>>
>> http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/01/27/1831240.shtml?tid=2
>>
>>
>> - by Tina Gasperson -
>> "The United States Department of Homeland Security (www.dhs.gov) changed
>> its servers over to Oracle on Linux last week, after running on Windows
>> 2000 for several months. Experts say that it is unlikely the change is a
>> reaction to "Slammer," the MS SQL server worm that rocked the Internet
>> last week.
>>
>> "Netcraft shows the change took place on January 24th and 25th. The site
>> had previously run off the U.S. Office of Personnel Management servers,
>> but now is listed with Energis Squared, the same group that hosts the
>> White House website"
>>
>> LX
>
>Hmmm... If I wanted to test the extent that the Internet could be brought down
>- extent, speed of chaos, time to recovery - I would pull my servers off M$
>and then let loose the fastest worm I could find.  But then I have a nasty
>suspicious mind :)
>
>Anne
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>
>
>


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[newbie] Cooker rpms

[Paul Kaplan]

Cooker has KDE3.1 rpms.  Anyone know if these will work on 9.0 or is the 
compiler different?
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Re: [newbie] Theme Manager errors

[Dennis Myers]

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 07:49 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 January 2003 07:35 pm, Angus Auld wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > > > On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 23:17, Angus Auld wrote:
> > > > > > Greetings all,
> > > > > > I have been content thus far with the default KDE theme,
> > > > > > + a few modifications of my own thrown in, on my 9.0
> > > > > > system. I decided to try another theme just for kicks, so
> > > > > > I went to Theme Manager (via KDE Control Center), and attempted
> > > > > > to make the changes there. To my surprise, I only get an error
> > > > > > box for my effort : "Theme does not contain a .themerc nor a
> > > > > > .theme file." and CC tells me it, "could not load theme."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I then tried to "create" a "new theme" of my current
> > > > > > setup, only to be greeted by the exact same errors as
> > > > > > already detailed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anybody have any thoughts as to what is going on with my "Theme
> > > > > > Manager?"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TIA for your time/help.
> > > > > > Best regards.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --Angus
> > > > >
> > > > >***
> > > > >Stephen Kuhn wrote,
> > > > > I found that sometimes when the KDEDIR environment variable was
> > > > > nonexistent it would choke and puke.
> > > > >
> > > > > export KDEDIR=/usr
> > > > >
> > > > >**
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Stephen, but that doesn't seem to be the problem here. I
> > > > issued the command as user, but still no themes can be loaded in
> > > > Theme Manager. Should it be done su'd?
> > > > I don't have any problems compiling packages, so is that an indicator
> > > > my environmental variables are OK?
> > > >
> > > > When I start kcontrol in a terminal, and try to access a theme, I get
> > > > the following: $kcontrol
> > > > fcntl: Bad file descriptor
> > > > fcntl: Bad file descriptor
> > > > $sh: line1: cd: /home/angus/.kde/share/apps/kthememgr/Work/: No such
> > > > file or directory
> > > >
> > > > I just upgraded the kdebase package with the latest security update
> > > > from MandrakeSecurity, and it contains kcontrol. I'm wondering if
> > > > this has something to do with my problem. I have been getting a lot
> > > > of the "fcntl: Bad file descriptor" errors in xsession-errors too.
> > > > Never got these before. Any way to pinpoint the source of the error?
> > > >
> > > > TIA.
> > > >
> > > > --Angus
> > > >
> > > > I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a
> > > > week sometimes to make it up.--Mark Twain, "The Innocents Abroad"
> > >
> > > This is interesting, I have the exact same problem with both computers
> > > that have 9.0 loaded. Does not matter if I am su or user. Looks like a
> > > bug to me. But one of the comps does not have the latest updates with
> > > kcontrol. So it seems to be an earlier problem.  Puzzled.
> > > --
> > > Dennis M.  linux user # 180842
> > >
> > >***
> >
> > Hey, you mean I found a bug maybe?cool.
> >
> > This could well have been a preexistent, (pre-kdebase update) problem
> > here too Dennis. I didn't feel the urge to deviate from my basic default
> > theme as per installation, until now. Just getting bored I guess :-).
> >
> > I wonder if 9.1 Beta has this "bug"?
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >> ***
>
> Don't know about 9.1 but I am downloading a theme from kde.look.org and
> will try untarring and installing to see if the thememanager will work with
> it. I never tried the themes in 9.0 because I did not like them when I
> checked em out in the previous releases. Anyone else tried the
> thememanager?
Ok, couldn't get two of them to install via tar, here is the out put:

[root@hotcomp Acqua-Graphite]# ./install.sh
./install.sh: line 6: cd: style: No such file or directory
cp: cannot stat `pixmaps': No such file or directory
cp: cannot stat `themes': No such file or directory
cp: cannot stat `wallpapers': No such file or directory
cp: cannot stat `icewm-themes': No such file or directory
_KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
DCOPServer up and running.
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Acqua-Graphite for KDE installed.

Then when I go to thememanager, it can't find anything. So it looks like 
something is missing or thememanager is broken. ??? Any ideas?
-- 
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Re: [newbie] Samba info

[Paul Kaplan]

Rob,
I found a set of LM9.0 rpms for samba3.0-alpha21 at:
http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/samba/samba-3-alpha/9.0/

They installed without any dependency problems although I got a few conflict 
complaints with some 2.2.7 libs.  Since the samba 2.2 bin commands are 
replaced with an equivalent samba 3.0a21 bin3 commands, it looks like its 
possible to install both sets side by side though haven't tried that.  So far 
I haven't been successful in getting the samba-client3 to see anything on my 
NT/ADS network, but the day's young.

I'd love to know if you have any luck with these.
Paul

On Saturday 25 January 2003 07:04 am, Robert Wideman wrote:
> I dont know about others but i cant find didly about the latest on the
> Samba project.  Like: what is the latest on getting toward 3.0, are win2k
> clients/servers able to browse linux samba shares (in ADS), full
> integration with ADS, etc.  The reason why i am asking is because the
> latest i have read is at:
> http://techupdate.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t481-s2122363,00.html
> And according to the FTP server for Samba (the same link that is on the
> article) there hasnt been an update since Sept.
> Unlike all other projects they dont give ANY type of updates, not even
> monthly.
>
> Any info is appreciated.
> Thanks
>
> Rob



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[newbie] Win98 -> Samba -> CUPS -> HP DJ540 still fails

[Larry Williams]

I know this shouldn't be this hard.  Maybe it's because I have a very old 
printer, I don't know.  I do know that I was able to make this all work when 
I had lprng installed, but that was in a Red Hat installation, and I haven't 
been able to get lprng running in Mandrake.

Here it is again in case you missed it, plus summaries of assistance to date 
(thank you Anne and Stephen for your efforts):

I have Mandrake 9.0, installed just about every package cause I have the 
space.  I have not yet upgraded anything via the upgrade link in the K menu.

I have configured Samba (2.2.6-1.0pre2.2mdk) so my two other Win98 machines 
can see the Linux box and can access shares.  

I have iptables configured so the two computers can get to the internet.  They 
cannot ping the Linux box, but I may have willfully prevented that.  

I have configured cups (1.1.16-0.4mdk) so that I can print locally to my 
antique HP DeskJet 540 printer.  I also enabled raw file printing by 
uncommenting the two related lines in the mime.* files, but only after seeing 
a complaint about that in the error log.

So far, everything works.  Except, I can't print from the Win98 machines.  
Every attempt results in an error stating it cannot convert file 0 to a 
printable format and hints that ESP Ghostscript is not installed.

I just finished compiling and installing ESP Ghostscript 7.05.5, but the error 
persists.  I was unable to find any reference in the local docs or at the 
cups website that could help.  I am assuming I need to tell cups where to 
find espgs apart for just restarting cupsd, but I'm at a loss how.  Or why.

Anne suggested I stick with the recommended printer driver when configuring 
cups.  I don't see much difference in performance, but since I am only 
printing locally, I could be overlooking something, so I did set the driver 
to the recommended one.

Stephen suggested I use Webmin to configure the printer.  I did try, but it 
complained that lpd is not installed.  I didn't see that I could tell Webmin 
not to use it.

As I said earlier, I tried to install lprng because I know it works for me, 
but I couldn't.  I tried to compile the source but it complained that 
/usr/include was not a system directory.  I don't think I have an ANSI C 
compiler, which the web site suggested I use.  I could install the RPM after 
satisfying dependencies, but it wouldn't complete the configuration process, 
telling me that, as root, I didn't have permission to access a directory or 
create a file.

Hrumph.  It's kind of depressing that something as simple as printing could be 
so hard, especially since it seems this kind of problems shouldn't exist 
because it's not documented at all.  I mean, I jumped through all the hoops I 
think I should have used, but it still fails.

Any suggestions?  Is this something I could stump the experts with?

Thanks for reading my lenghty diatribe (would be shorter if I didn't use 
adjectives, I guess).  And many thanks for any assistance you can offer.

Larry


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Re: [newbie] HD size

[Rob Blomquist]

> I have a hard disk with 3.9 gigs. How much bytes I need for install Mandrake 9.0 
>with Windows 2000 in one disk???
> 

Depending on just how much you want to install, as there is a good bit of overlapping 
stuff, such as the three office "suites", I would guess that you could have a good 
working installiation right around 1 Gig. So it all depends on how much room your 
Win2K is using up.

Rob




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need for install Mandrake 9.0 with Windows 2000 in one 
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Re: [newbie] My hard disk have 3.9 GB

[civileme]

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 01:01 pm, Fabián Reyes Prieto wrote:
> Is very small a hard disk of 3.9 gigs to install Mandrake 9.0 together
> Windows 2000?
> - Original Message -
> From: "et" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] An elemental doubt
>
> On Tuesday 28 January 2003 02:12 pm, Fabián Reyes Prieto wrote:
> > Please, tell me if Mandrake 9.0 can be installed for Windows 2000. The
>
> kind
>
> > of files system installed in my PC is FAT 32. Thank you very much.
>
> windows 2000 is an operating system. Mandrake-Linux is also an operating
> system. they do not require each other to work. the real question is do you
> have 3 to 6 gigs of space as fat32 to spare (forever) to use with Mandrake
> LInux to allow it to run as well as it can?
>
>
>
>
> ---
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>
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A reasonable install of Mandrake without any capability of programming can be 
done for the expenditure of 1 Gb approximately plus 200Mb swap.   You keep 
KDE and uncheck GNOME and then in individual package selection check zip, 
check gaim, check openoffice help, and uncheck koffice.  I have an install 
completion CD which changes the simplified menu to look at OpenOffice and 
loads Yahoo messenger, since everybuddy is defunct in 9.0.  Install no games, 
or figure on spending another 300Mb on games.

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Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

[Charlie]

I think you're probably so close to 'on the money' with this analysis that it 
argument would be pointless.

Better than all the "quoted stuff above" with just an "I agree." tacked on at 
the bottom; don't you think? ;-)

<\ axe enabled>

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of her colorful past, and the family uses her to cook barbecues
and to power small electrical appliances.  Maureen Stapleton gives
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[newbie] ReiserFS vs Ext3 (From MySQL List)

[Adolfo Bello]

http://gurulabs.com/ext3-reiserfs.html





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Re: [newbie] Documentation

[Steve Jeppesen]

Thank you for the reply!

sort a thought maybe your filter/s might have run wild and tossed it!

about the only thing different was I did not have a write list.  I have
sinced moved the printer upstairs since nobody wants to come downstairs
into the realm of an alt. O.S. domain...actually they do more printing
than I will ever do so it made sense.  Thanks again Anne

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:10:52 +
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sorry I missed this at the time.  Does this help?
> 
> # =
> # print command: see above for details.
> # =
> print command = lpr-cups -P %p -o raw %s -r
> #   using client side printer drivers.
> ;   print command = lpr-cups -P %p %s # using cups own drivers (use
> generic# PostScript on clients).
> # The following two commands are the samba defaults for printing=cups
> # change them only if you need different options:
> ;   lpq command = lpq -P %p
> ;   lprm command = cancel %p-%j
> 
> [print$]
> path = /var/lib/samba/printers
> browseable = yes
> read only = yes
> write list = @adm root
> 
> Anne
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> 
> 
> 


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Re: [newbie] Logitech MX700 Cordless Optical Mouse on Mandrake 9.0+?

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 04:06 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Tuesday January 28 2003 12:09 pm, T E wrote:
> > Still, the idea of spending $80+ on a mouse seems
> > immoral to me.  Ok, maybe I'm just old fashion and
> > used to the days of -$30 mice =)
>
>   Works for me. I give < $10 for keyboards, < $5 for mice, more likely
> 8 and 2 in that order. When/if they mess up, I toss 'em. Secret to
> buyin cheap keyboards is to buy black ones  ... so ya don't have to
> clean 'em either ;)  Just turn 'em upside down every once'n while and
> bang the cookie crumbs and pizza bits out ;>

Here's another tip: Never clean your mouse. After a while (typically 6 to 12 
months depending upon your eating habits) the accumulated gunk will cause it 
to stick to your hand, cutting down the wear and tear on your carpal tunnel 
and saving the time that you now waste looking for your mouse when it borrow 
under all those manuals, paper and other desktop litter. The downside of this 
technique is that it will slow down your keyboarding. But no one does that 
anymore, do they?
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Re: [newbie] OT-Homeland Security dumps winblows

[Lyvim Xaphir]

On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 11:48, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 January 2003 03:29 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> > Check this out:
> >
> > http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/01/27/1831240.shtml?tid=2
> >
> >
> > - by Tina Gasperson -
> > "The United States Department of Homeland Security (www.dhs.gov) changed
> > its servers over to Oracle on Linux last week, after running on Windows
> > 2000 for several months. Experts say that it is unlikely the change is a
> > reaction to "Slammer," the MS SQL server worm that rocked the Internet
> > last week.
> >
> > "Netcraft shows the change took place on January 24th and 25th. The site
> > had previously run off the U.S. Office of Personnel Management servers,
> > but now is listed with Energis Squared, the same group that hosts the
> > White House website"
> >
> > LX
> 
> LX:
> Ah, but wait. There's more. A story broke this morning about Microsoft's own 
> servers being slammed by Slammer over the weekend. Why, you ask? Well, it 
> seems that they hadn't been patched, although the patches have been available 
> to the public since last summer. Oh, the delicious irony of it! Not only does 
> the Emporer not have any clothes on, but closer inspection indicates that 
> he's somewhat deficient in the anatomical department, too.
> http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-982305.html
> -- cmg

Carroll:  It looks like there is just not enough laughter to cover this
event.  ;)  This is sweeter than a jelly doughnut soaked in corn syrup. 
I say we all throw a party. :)

LX


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Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

[Charlie]

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 02:20 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:

>
> That demystifies things, Charlie. Coming to think about it,
> the explanation about DOS *to make the hard drive spin*
> seems utterly nonsense to me. Actually, I wondered if the
> man knew what he was talking about. The reason to have DOS
> installed must serve testing purposes, I guess : to test
> serial, parallel and USB ports, monitor-outlets, floppy
> drive etc. etc.. That comes for a price, of course.
>
> Kaj Haulrich.

Yes, testing the components has to be; or should be, done or the prospective 
customer is a potential PR disaster. But I still think the testing is already 
a part of the overhead costs calculation without any consideration of the OS 
cost.

Maybe Dell (and a few others) will learn from their past agreements with 
Microsoft and not be quite so hamstrung. One can hope so at any rate.

Since they offered a guarantee (in writing?) that the box will run GNU/Linux 
it would seem the proper advice would be; "Go for it!" It will doubtless save 
time and at least a certain amount of money versus building from hardware 
available at retail.

You'll let the list know the result should you go ahead Kaj? I'd be curious at 
the least. :-)

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[newbie] My hard disk have 3.9 GB

[Fabián Reyes Prieto]

Is very small a hard disk of 3.9 gigs to install Mandrake 9.0 together
Windows 2000?
- Original Message -
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] An elemental doubt


On Tuesday 28 January 2003 02:12 pm, Fabián Reyes Prieto wrote:
> Please, tell me if Mandrake 9.0 can be installed for Windows 2000. The
kind
> of files system installed in my PC is FAT 32. Thank you very much.
windows 2000 is an operating system. Mandrake-Linux is also an operating
system. they do not require each other to work. the real question is do you
have 3 to 6 gigs of space as fat32 to spare (forever) to use with Mandrake
LInux to allow it to run as well as it can?








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Re: [newbie] corel photo paint

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 04:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've downloaded corel photo paint 8 from corel site but i can't install it :( I know 
>that i'm a total newbie on linux and all the stuff (make, make install) is still a 
>bit confusing for me.. (although i followed the install instructions)
> Is there a RPM for it?
> As anyone have installed it on mdk 9? Can it work in CMYK? (that's why a can't work 
>with gimp)
> 
> Any ideias?
> 
> Filipe

You should do:

./configure
make
make install

...unless the package is setup differently...

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Re: [newbie] Partition hell - longish

[FemmeFatale]

At 08:57 AM 1/28/2003 +, you wrote:

On Monday 27 Jan 2003 11:16 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
> At 10:20 PM 1/27/2003 +, you wrote:
> >On Monday 27 Jan 2003 9:39 pm, you wrote:
> > > Well, then there's all the more reason to either git'em all working
> > > under MDK or through Win4lin or some other means (VMWare?) - gotta make
> > > it easier on ya kiddo...
> >
> >The odd items of software I need are no problem - win4lin does fine for
> > me. It's just these odd items of hardware, camera, cf/sm reader and a
> > scsi film scanner (though I haven't spent much time on that one yet).  I
> > understand there is an alpha driver that might work for the scanner, so I
> > might try that later.
> >
> >Anne
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>
> Heh I'll forward this to the list for you Anne.  Seems you sent it my way
> accidentally :)
>
Thanks Femme - don't know how that happened ;)

Anne
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np.  Thought you'd like it done that way.

Stephen:  you can't straighten up so don't even try! :)

Yes i'm back far earlier than i hoped.  Seems i'm more mobile than i could 
have hoped to be.  So that means i can get to my computer downstairs for a 
few hours a day. :)

Talk to you all soon i hope.

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Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

[Tom Brinkman]

On Tuesday January 28 2003 01:49 pm, Charlie wrote:
> AFAICR the agreement between Dell and Microsoft says that Dell
> can't ship barebones boxes; but doesn't exactly specify what
> operating system must be included. Note: included, not installed.
> One of the ways that's been found to circumvent MS's heavy handed
> interference was to just toss a copy of FreeDOS in with the tower
> and ship it.
>
> A 70 to 80 Euros discount is certainly better than none; but I'd be
> curious to know how much of the actual OEM price they're passing
> along in that discount. Last I checked here in Canada Retail Win XP
> Home Edition goes for CDN$159.00.

 The main reason OEM's sign up with M$ is to get discounted 
licences, but also "either sign up or get none". So about half price 
seems sort'a reasonable (CDN$159.00 = 100 USD = about the same in 
Euros, roughly). OTOH, it's also a tool M$ uses to force them to only 
load winsux  ...either do, or loose your discount. 'Course if you 
don't sign you also get none. Most OEM business is still with the 
unwashed M$ users worldwide, so there's no alternative except to sign 
up.

   M$ keeps a vigilant eye on what percent of units an OEM like Dell 
ships (brokers is more accurate, they don't really manufacture 'em, 
particularly laptops) without their OS. The legal aspects mean 
little, the discount and availability from M$ does. One'a them under 
the table deals and arm twisting M$ is infamous for. Unfortunately 
not known of, or cared to know about by the unwashed masses. I also 
suspect there's a M$ tax, that "even if you do ship an allowed 
percentage without M$ OS, you still gotta cough up x $$'s per non M$ 
unit" ... to keep your M$ discount.
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Re: [newbie] Theme Manager errors

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 23:17, Angus Auld wrote:
> Greetings all,
> I have been content thus far with the default KDE theme, 
> + a few modifications of my own thrown in, on my 9.0 
> system. I decided to try another theme just for kicks, so 
> I went to Theme Manager (via KDE Control Center), and attempted to make the changes 
>there. To my surprise, I only get an error box for my effort :
> "Theme does not contain a .themerc nor a .theme file."
> and CC tells me it, "could not load theme."
> 
> I then tried to "create" a "new theme" of my current 
> setup, only to be greeted by the exact same errors as 
> already detailed.
> 
> Anybody have any thoughts as to what is going on with my "Theme Manager?"
> 
> TIA for your time/help. 
> Best regards.
> 
> --Angus
> 

I found that sometimes when the KDEDIR environment variable was
nonexistent it would choke and puke.

export KDEDIR=/usr

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Re: [newbie] Logitech MX700 Cordless Optical Mouse on Mandrake 9.0+?

[Tom Brinkman]

On Tuesday January 28 2003 12:09 pm, T E wrote:
> Still, the idea of spending $80+ on a mouse seems
> immoral to me.  Ok, maybe I'm just old fashion and
> used to the days of -$30 mice =)

  Works for me. I give < $10 for keyboards, < $5 for mice, more likely 
8 and 2 in that order. When/if they mess up, I toss 'em. Secret to 
buyin cheap keyboards is to buy black ones  ... so ya don't have to 
clean 'em either ;)  Just turn 'em upside down every once'n while and 
bang the cookie crumbs and pizza bits out ;>
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Re: [newbie] PCtel HSP56 AMR

[Tom Brinkman]

On Tuesday January 28 2003 02:24 pm, drapper drapper wrote:
> Estou com problemas para conectar com meu modem (PCtel HSP56 AMR).
> Eu uso o Mandrake 9.0 - KDE 3
> Aonde posso encontrar o driver e como posso instalar?
> Obs.: Expliquem bem, pois não tenho muito tempo que meixo com o
> Linux Obrigado.

   AMR is short for 'audio modem riser'. It's a fake sound card with a 
phone line connector attached. More capable of being a fake sound 
card than a modem. The best idea would be to replace it with a real 
modem, both for performance and compatibility purposes. You might 
find a driver to compensate for it's lack of real hardware 
capabilities at  http://www.linmodems.org/   ... but I doubt it
-- 
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[newbie] PCtel HSP56 AMR

[drapper drapper]

Estou com problemas para conectar com meu modem (PCtel HSP56 AMR).
Eu uso o Mandrake 9.0 - KDE 3
Aonde posso encontrar o driver e como posso instalar?
Obs.: Expliquem bem, pois não tenho muito tempo que meixo com o Linux
Obrigado.





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Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

[Kaj Haulrich]

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 07:49 pm, Charlie wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 January 2003 08:57 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> 
>
> > Thanks, Lyvim and Tony.
> >
> > The story goes on : 5 minutes ago I had a telephone
> > conversation with a Dell Denmark representative. He
> > wasn't sure what linux-distro they offered, only he
> > gave a guarantee, that an Optiplex SX260 would run
> > linux. After some additional pressure I managed to get
> > a bargain :
> >
> > Dell Denmark  will deliver an Optiplex with only a
> > rudimentary DOS in it. He claimed that it would be
> > necessary in order to get the hard disk running (???)
> > and maybe for legal reasons. The price cutoff would be
> > around 70-80 euros relative to a box with WindowsXP.
> >
> > Sounds good, eh ?
> >
> > Kaj Haulrich
> > ===
> > Powered by Linux- Mandrake
> > 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at
> > http://counter.li.org Source :  my 100 %
> > Microsoft-free personal computer.
> > ===
>
> AFAICR the agreement between Dell and Microsoft says
> that Dell can't ship barebones boxes; but doesn't
> exactly specify what operating system must be included.
> Note: included, not installed. One of the ways that's
> been found to circumvent MS's heavy handed interference
> was to just toss a copy of FreeDOS in with the tower and
> ship it.
>
> A 70 to 80 Euros discount is certainly better than none;
> but I'd be curious to know how much of the actual OEM
> price they're passing along in that discount. Last I
> checked here in Canada Retail Win XP Home Edition goes
> for CDN$159.00. The stores in town here that sell
> barebones boxen add that to the price. If one is buying
> a "preconfigured system;" meaning one that's advertised
> as a "Plug'n'Play," the discount (for those willing to
> do such a thing) is only CDN$100 or so. The excuse is
> "We have to test whether we ship a system with an
> Operating System or not." which may sound reasonable but
> I don't think so. They have to test, granted, and the
> testing is included in the price of the system, not a
> part of the OS price in my opinion.
>
> It's still better than nothing though.
>
> Regards;

That demystifies things, Charlie. Coming to think about it, 
the explanation about DOS *to make the hard drive spin* 
seems utterly nonsense to me. Actually, I wondered if the 
man knew what he was talking about. The reason to have DOS 
installed must serve testing purposes, I guess : to test 
serial, parallel and USB ports, monitor-outlets, floppy 
drive etc. etc.. That comes for a price, of course.

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] OT-Homeland Security dumps winblows

[Sharrea]

On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 05:48, Carroll Grigsby wrote:

> LX:
> Ah, but wait. There's more. A story broke this morning about Microsoft's
> own servers being slammed by Slammer over the weekend. Why, you ask?

I wouldn't think to ask why, I thought this was a common occurrence  ; )

> Well, it seems that they hadn't been patched, although the patches have
> been available to the public since last summer. Oh, the delicious irony
> of it! Not only does the Emporer not have any clothes on, but closer
> inspection indicates that he's somewhat deficient in the anatomical
> department, too.
> http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-982305.html
> -- cmg

hehe... well put Carroll!

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Re: [newbie] An elemental doubt

[Fabián Reyes Prieto]

Thanks et! My HD have only 3.9 gigs in total. Is very small to install
Mandrake 9.0 with Windows 2000???



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Re: [newbie] SNMP

[et]

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 11:53 am, gcobb wrote:
> Is SNMP difficult to set up?  Does it run independantly of any other
> service from Mandrake without having to subscribe somewhere?  And is
> there any newbie style docs that can help get it set up?
>
> Thanks!
> Greg
as a newbie, you might be better off to use the snmp server of your ISP, and 
just use a mail client like kmail
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Re: [newbie] An elemental doubt

[et]

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 02:12 pm, Fabián Reyes Prieto wrote:
> Please, tell me if Mandrake 9.0 can be installed for Windows 2000. The kind
> of files system installed in my PC is FAT 32. Thank you very much.
windows 2000 is an operating system. Mandrake-Linux is also an operating 
system. they do not require each other to work. the real question is do you 
have 3 to 6 gigs of space as fat32 to spare (forever) to use with Mandrake 
LInux to allow it to run as well as it can?


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Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

[Charlie]

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 08:57 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:


> Thanks, Lyvim and Tony.
>
> The story goes on : 5 minutes ago I had a telephone
> conversation with a Dell Denmark representative. He wasn't
> sure what linux-distro they offered, only he gave a
> guarantee, that an Optiplex SX260 would run linux. After
> some additional pressure I managed to get a bargain :
>
> Dell Denmark  will deliver an Optiplex with only a
> rudimentary DOS in it. He claimed that it would be
> necessary in order to get the hard disk running (???) and
> maybe for legal reasons. The price cutoff would be around
> 70-80 euros relative to a box with WindowsXP.
>
> Sounds good, eh ?
>
> Kaj Haulrich
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AFAICR the agreement between Dell and Microsoft says that Dell can't ship 
barebones boxes; but doesn't exactly specify what operating system must be 
included. Note: included, not installed. One of the ways that's been found to 
circumvent MS's heavy handed interference was to just toss a copy of FreeDOS 
in with the tower and ship it.

A 70 to 80 Euros discount is certainly better than none; but I'd be curious to 
know how much of the actual OEM price they're passing along in that discount. 
Last I checked here in Canada Retail Win XP Home Edition goes for CDN$159.00. 
The stores in town here that sell barebones boxen add that to the price. If 
one is buying a "preconfigured system;" meaning one that's advertised as a 
"Plug'n'Play," the discount (for those willing to do such a thing) is only 
CDN$100 or so. The excuse is "We have to test whether we ship a system with 
an Operating System or not." which may sound reasonable but I don't think so. 
They have to test, granted, and the testing is included in the price of the 
system, not a part of the OS price in my opinion.

It's still better than nothing though.

Regards;
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Re: [newbie] Logitech MX700 Cordless Optical Mouse on Mandrake 9.0+?

[et]

I believe so,,, the curved key board (teaching myself the "correct" way to 
type) and mouse, and they work just as sweet as other mice I have used, if 
not better


On Tuesday 28 January 2003 01:09 pm, T E wrote:
> I must ask: Is it the Logitech Cordless Elite Duo?  I
> saw it listed as the "Best Buy" in last months Wired
> issue and have noticed it's Award Winning status.  $99
> gives you one reciever, a cordless optical mouse and a
> cordless key board.  Seems like a great deal!  I
> almost went for it except for 2 reasons:
>
> 1.) Mouse batteries.  Replacing them seems like a
> rather expensive inconvenience.  With the MX700 you
> get a reciever that is ALSO a charger!
>
> 2.) Accuracy.  I play Counter-Strike and need not only
> the accuracy but stability as well.  While I can
> manage in Counter-Strike with a standard logitech
> corded optical, I can not "flick" my mouse nor play
> games such as Q3 that require it for fast 180 degree
> turns.  The MX700 seems have this under control.
>
> Still, the idea of spending $80+ on a mouse seems
> immoral to me.  Ok, maybe I'm just old fashion and
> used to the days of -$30 mice =)
>
> --- et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Monday 27 January 2003 04:17 pm, Charles A
> >
> > Edwards wrote:
> > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:20:50 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > > T E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I am considering a new mouse.  It is the
> >
> > Logitech
> >
> > > > MX700 Cordless Optical Mouse.  I would like to
> >
> > know if
> >
> > > > it is compatible with Mandrake 9.0 or higher.
> >
> > And in
> >
> > > > the event that I have to downgrade, how about
> >
> > 8.2?
> >
> > > I've got 1 that I plan to install tomorrow.
> > > I do not anticipate any problem but I'll let you
> >
> > know.
> >
> > > Charles
> > >
> > > 
> >
> > I have used a logitech cordless mouse and keyboard
> > for about a year, no
> > problem other than mouse batteries going bad.
> >
> > > GOOD-NIGHT, everybody ... Now I have to go
> >
> > administer FIRST-AID to my
> >
> > > pet LEISURE SUIT!!
> > > --
> > > Mandrake Linux 9.1
> > > Kernel- 2.4.21pre3-2mdk
> > > --
> > >
> > >
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[newbie] CGI Not working after install

[gcobb]

After the install, I tried running a few CGI programs from the web.
They told me permissions were denied or I otherwise didn't have access
to the cgi script in /var/www/cgi-bin/.  I changed the dir to the name
Apache runs under and made the dir and everything under it executable.
I looked out on the Apache site and wasn't able to make any progress.  I
use httpd.conf and commonhttpd.conf as a result of my install.  I
compared them to docs I read and I can't see any reason why they aren't
working.  

Is there something I can try to see how to get this to work?

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[newbie] An elemental doubt

[Fabián Reyes Prieto]

Please, tell me if Mandrake 9.0 can be installed 
for Windows 2000. The kind of files system installed in my PC is FAT 32. Thank 
you very much.

Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 6:54 pm, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 10:17:07AM +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 8:34 am, Vaessen, E.M.J. (Ed) wrote:
> > > Glad to hear that the Danish are at least a bit flexible.
> > > Didn't get the Dutch Dell that far: they told me that they simply don't
> > > have time to check the correct working of their machine other than by
> > > testing it with WindowsXP. And furthermore there seems to be a law that
> > > forbids selling of PC's without an OS on it.
> > > Wonder who made that law.
> >
> > Dell in the UK told me years ago that it was illegal to sell a box
> > without windows on it.  This was when I was buying a replacement box for
> > my granddaughter.  I stuck out, saying that it certainly was not, quoted
> > my registration code, and insisted.
>
> What registration code would that be?
>
> --hendrik

Just the Win98 keycode from her installation disk for the soon-to-be-retired 
cum my-first-look-at-linux box.  Of course I realise now that it didn't prove 
much - I could have had 20 boxes installed from the same disk, I suppose, but 
at the time I was full of righteous indignation.

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Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

[Hendrik Boom]

On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 10:17:07AM +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 8:34 am, Vaessen, E.M.J. (Ed) wrote:
> > Glad to hear that the Danish are at least a bit flexible.
> > Didn't get the Dutch Dell that far: they told me that they simply don't
> > have time to check the correct working of their machine other than by
> > testing it with WindowsXP. And furthermore there seems to be a law that
> > forbids selling of PC's without an OS on it.
> > Wonder who made that law.
> >
> Dell in the UK told me years ago that it was illegal to sell a box without 
> windows on it.  This was when I was buying a replacement box for my 
> granddaughter.  I stuck out, saying that it certainly was not, quoted my 
> registration code, and insisted.

What registration code would that be?

--hendrik

>  After several phone calls I got the box - 
> with a totally unformatted disk.  That was not the bad news they may have 
> expected, since I always prefer to partition my disks anyway :)
> 
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> 
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[newbie] MandrakeSoft Bankruptcy Plan Gets Court Approval

[Anthony Abby]

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-01-28-015-26-NW-BZ-MD

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Re: [newbie] Logitech MX700 Cordless Optical Mouse on Mandrake 9.0+?

[T E]

I must ask: Is it the Logitech Cordless Elite Duo?  I
saw it listed as the "Best Buy" in last months Wired
issue and have noticed it's Award Winning status.  $99
gives you one reciever, a cordless optical mouse and a
cordless key board.  Seems like a great deal!  I
almost went for it except for 2 reasons:

1.) Mouse batteries.  Replacing them seems like a
rather expensive inconvenience.  With the MX700 you
get a reciever that is ALSO a charger!

2.) Accuracy.  I play Counter-Strike and need not only
the accuracy but stability as well.  While I can
manage in Counter-Strike with a standard logitech
corded optical, I can not "flick" my mouse nor play
games such as Q3 that require it for fast 180 degree
turns.  The MX700 seems have this under control.

Still, the idea of spending $80+ on a mouse seems
immoral to me.  Ok, maybe I'm just old fashion and
used to the days of -$30 mice =)


--- et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 27 January 2003 04:17 pm, Charles A
> Edwards wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:20:50 -0800 (PST)
> >
> > T E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I am considering a new mouse.  It is the
> Logitech
> > > MX700 Cordless Optical Mouse.  I would like to
> know if
> > > it is compatible with Mandrake 9.0 or higher. 
> And in
> > > the event that I have to downgrade, how about
> 8.2?
> >
> > I've got 1 that I plan to install tomorrow.
> > I do not anticipate any problem but I'll let you
> know.
> >
> >
> > Charles
> >
> > 
> I have used a logitech cordless mouse and keyboard
> for about a year, no 
> problem other than mouse batteries going bad.
> 
> 
> > GOOD-NIGHT, everybody ... Now I have to go
> administer FIRST-AID to my
> > pet LEISURE SUIT!!
> > --
> > Mandrake Linux 9.1
> > Kernel- 2.4.21pre3-2mdk
> > --
> 
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Re: [newbie] OT-Homeland Security dumps winblows

[Mark Weaver]

Carroll Grigsby wrote:

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 03:29 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:


Check this out:

http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/01/27/1831240.shtml?tid=2


- by Tina Gasperson -
"The United States Department of Homeland Security (www.dhs.gov) changed
its servers over to Oracle on Linux last week, after running on Windows
2000 for several months. Experts say that it is unlikely the change is a
reaction to "Slammer," the MS SQL server worm that rocked the Internet
last week.

"Netcraft shows the change took place on January 24th and 25th. The site
had previously run off the U.S. Office of Personnel Management servers,
but now is listed with Energis Squared, the same group that hosts the
White House website"

LX



LX:
Ah, but wait. There's more. A story broke this morning about Microsoft's own 
servers being slammed by Slammer over the weekend. Why, you ask? Well, it 
seems that they hadn't been patched, although the patches have been available 
to the public since last summer. Oh, the delicious irony of it! Not only does 
the Emporer not have any clothes on, but closer inspection indicates that 
he's somewhat deficient in the anatomical department, too.
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-982305.html
-- cmg

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[newbie] corel photo paint

[d.diniz]

I've downloaded corel photo paint 8 from corel site but i can't install it :( I know 
that i'm a total newbie on linux and all the stuff (make, make install) is still a bit 
confusing for me.. (although i followed the install instructions)
Is there a RPM for it?
As anyone have installed it on mdk 9? Can it work in CMYK? (that's why a can't work 
with gimp)

Any ideias?

Filipe

BTW: what is wrong about CMYK and linux. Are they uncompatible? Humm, it seems that 
CMYK is open source..
BTW(2): I tested sketch as an freehand alternative but it can't handle Pantone colors. 
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Re: [newbie] Postfix

[Anthony Abby]

Check out the pop-before-smtp module.  Linked to from the postfix website.

Anthony

gcobb said:
> I have recently done an install of 8.2.  I selected the Postfix package.
> I've done very little with Postfix in the way of changing the
> configuration.  I created a few accounts on the server and from a system
> that is on the same internal network I can send/receive properly.
> Here's how it goes:  From this computer on the same hub, I can use an
> email account I created on that computer and send mail through it to
> someone else at any random email address.  If I go to a computer off
> this internet anywhere I can try the same thing and it tells me I can't
> relay.  Restricting relaying is fine, I just don't know what to do in
> order to get authorized accounts to be able to use their email account
> as they would any other.
>
> Any help would be appreciated
>
> Greg


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[newbie] SNMP

[gcobb]

Is SNMP difficult to set up?  Does it run independantly of any other
service from Mandrake without having to subscribe somewhere?  And is
there any newbie style docs that can help get it set up?

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[newbie] SSH and FTP

[gcobb]

I use SSH and at times when off the internal network I get disconnected
as if I were packet flooding or something along those lines.  One
instance is where I was scrolling through the error_log file.  If I am
not here on the PC on the same network I can be disconnected if I scroll
too fast, per say.

In the same aspect, if I use FTP on this computer I'm on to send to the
server (same internal network again) I can send or receive anything I
want.  I created a few accounts for a few friends who I had try to send
up a 4 meg file.  It would never complete but give an FTP error.  It'll
do this on send or receive.

I am thinking these are related.  I don't know why both would do this.
It's almost as if I have some type filtering set up.  I DO have a
Linksys router between the computers and the ISP, but no special
configuration that I know of set up on that.

If anyone has ANY idea of how I can correct these things please let me
know.

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Re: [newbie] OT-Homeland Security dumps winblows

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 03:29 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> Check this out:
>
> http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/01/27/1831240.shtml?tid=2
>
>
> - by Tina Gasperson -
> "The United States Department of Homeland Security (www.dhs.gov) changed
> its servers over to Oracle on Linux last week, after running on Windows
> 2000 for several months. Experts say that it is unlikely the change is a
> reaction to "Slammer," the MS SQL server worm that rocked the Internet
> last week.
>
> "Netcraft shows the change took place on January 24th and 25th. The site
> had previously run off the U.S. Office of Personnel Management servers,
> but now is listed with Energis Squared, the same group that hosts the
> White House website"
>
> LX

LX:
Ah, but wait. There's more. A story broke this morning about Microsoft's own 
servers being slammed by Slammer over the weekend. Why, you ask? Well, it 
seems that they hadn't been patched, although the patches have been available 
to the public since last summer. Oh, the delicious irony of it! Not only does 
the Emporer not have any clothes on, but closer inspection indicates that 
he's somewhat deficient in the anatomical department, too.
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-982305.html
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Re: [newbie] Alas and alack.

[Derek Jennings]

On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 3:58 pm, alex wrote:
> Has the Linux security bubble burst?
>
> http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20030124S0013/1


Well lets think about this   
 
Whose software was the target of the attack at the weekend that virtually shut 
down the Internet.. (It did for me at least, and it is still filling up my 
firewall log)

 Oh yes. It was Microsofts


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[newbie] Postfix

[gcobb]

I have recently done an install of 8.2.  I selected the Postfix package.
I've done very little with Postfix in the way of changing the
configuration.  I created a few accounts on the server and from a system
that is on the same internal network I can send/receive properly.
Here's how it goes:  From this computer on the same hub, I can use an
email account I created on that computer and send mail through it to
someone else at any random email address.  If I go to a computer off
this internet anywhere I can try the same thing and it tells me I can't
relay.  Restricting relaying is fine, I just don't know what to do in
order to get authorized accounts to be able to use their email account
as they would any other.  

Any help would be appreciated

Greg




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Re: [newbie] Alas and alack.

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 3:58 pm, alex wrote:
> Has the Linux security bubble burst?
>
> http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20030124S0013/1

I think not - it was never really there.  Only an idiot would think that linux 
is bug-free.  It must be over a year since I read an article saying that 
samba is insecure out-of-the-box.  That goes for many more issues, too.  The 
advantage linux has is that it can be nailed down to whatever degree seems 
applicable - whereas in many cases you can do nothing about the insecurities 
of windows.

It bears consideration though, that as linux becomes more mainstream it will 
inevitably attract the attention of the script-kiddies.  Be warned.

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Re: [newbie] xawtv config and recording

[magnet]

On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 6:05 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Sunday 26 January 2003 08:13 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:
> > It's part of the xawtv package. :D
> >
> > Jerry
>
> Odd, I've got the stock XawTV here, with v9.0 and if I type in that command
> you posted I get an error telling me that streamer can't be found. Is it
> something separate from XawTV that has to be installed? Thanks.

Yeap, same here. command "streamer" is not found as user or root and mine is 
stock V9.0 install also.
tv card is win-tv Go and gfx card is a juicy gforce Ti 4400 :)))
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Re: [newbie] Documentation

[Anne Wilson]

On Saturday 11 Jan 2003 4:43 pm, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 11:10:33 +
> Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> SNIPPED what was not applicable!

Sorry I missed this at the time.  Does this help?

# =
# print command: see above for details.
# =
print command = lpr-cups -P %p -o raw %s -r
#   using client side printer drivers.
;   print command = lpr-cups -P %p %s # using cups own drivers (use generic
# PostScript on clients).
# The following two commands are the samba defaults for printing=cups
# change them only if you need different options:
;   lpq command = lpq -P %p
;   lprm command = cancel %p-%j

[print$]
path = /var/lib/samba/printers
browseable = yes
read only = yes
write list = @adm root

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[newbie] Alas and alack.

[alex]

Has the Linux security bubble burst?

http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20030124S0013/1



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Re: [newbie] Packaging systems [was: ANNOUCEMENT: KDE 3.1 IS OUT]

[Anders Lind]

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:18:51 -0500
Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have GOT to see this... and you said it was FreeBSD, correct?

Yupp, that is correct


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Re: [newbie] Packaging systems [was: ANNOUCEMENT: KDE 3.1 IS OUT]

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>
> Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > do tell? I can't stand the suspense. descibe this new beast to me!
>
> Actually it is not really new, just new to me ;o) Anyway...under /usr there
> is a directory called ports and in that you have a load of different
> directories called irc, www and so on, you get the picture. Under there you
> have different software, if you go into those directories and type make
> install the system will download, satisfy potential dependicies, compile
> and install the program for you. I find it very handy and great. I have
> always found apt-get to be perhaps not the ultimate package system (Hence
> dselect in the installation program) but this beats it by far.
>
> Cheers
>
> Anders

I have GOT to see this... and you said it was FreeBSD, correct?
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[newbie] question about Kmail

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I'm curious about something. With Kmail, is there a way to advance from on 
message to another with the view pane completely closed and viewing the 
message in a window all its own? I use this method of reading messages with 
Mozilla and would like to be able to do this as well in Kmail but it doesn't 
appear to want to cooperate.

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Re: [newbie] Packaging systems [was: ANNOUCEMENT: KDE 3.1 IS OUT]

[Anders Lind]

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:39:37 -0500 (EST)
"Anthony Abby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> urpmi does essentially the same thing... but it's not ports.  in Freebsd
> you can do the same thing with packages... under freebsd you can install
> via ports, packages, or simply through untarring an app.  Ports and
> Packages are pretty much the same thing, except ports is compiled during
> install and packages is already compiled binaries.

That is correct, I personally prefer compiling myself or in this case in the form of 
ports, even though the timeaspect

> 
> If you want rock solid stability freebsd is a pretty damn good choice...

Yeah, sure is, we have switched from Mandrake to FreeBSD here at work, nothing wrong 
with Mandrake, it worked fine, but we experienced some problems with the memory, 
possibly bad hardware though, but FreeBSD seems to take up much less memory.

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RE: [newbie] Theme Manager errors

[Angus Auld]

 
> >Angus Auld brought forth,
> > Greetings all,
> > I have been content thus far with the default KDE theme, 
> > + a few modifications of my own thrown in, on my 9.0 
> > system. I decided to try another theme just for kicks, so 
> > I went to Theme Manager (via KDE Control Center), and attempted to make the
> > changes there. To my surprise, I only get an error box for my effort :
> > "Theme does not contain a .themerc nor a .theme file."
> > and CC tells me it, "could not load theme."
> > 
> > I then tried to "create" a "new theme" of my current 
> > setup, only to be greeted by the exact same errors as 
> > already detailed.
> > 
> > Anybody have any thoughts as to what is going on with my "Theme Manager?"
> > 
> > TIA for your time/help. 
> > Best regards.
> > 
> > --Angus
> >*
> >Dennis.R.Meyers replied, 
> > Not to far back in the past I used to use older themes in 8.2 by appending a
> > k to the 
> > theme name. Like:  goodlooking.ktheme when it was originally
> > goodlooking.theme or some thing like that. The trick was to add the k and
> > then the theme would load. HTH
> > Dennis M.
> ***
> Thanks Dennis, I'm not trying to get a new theme to load though. Well, I did try to 
>load my current desktop setup as a new theme, but I can't even get the default themes 
>to load into the Theme Manager. :-/
> Sorry I didn't explain clearly.
> 
> I get the aforementioned error when I just click on a standard theme that came with 
>my download version 9.0.
> 
> When I try to load them, I get the error, but when I check in my ~/ directory, there 
>is a folder for that 
> theme now present. I just tried it for the "Default" theme, and in ~/ there is a 
>"Default" directory that contains a "Default.preview.png" file, and a 
>"Default.themerc" file. The theme won't load in Theme Manager though, nor will any of 
>the other standard themes.
> This seems kind of strange.
> 
>
> --Angus
**
I notice that I get the following in .xsession-errors when I try to load a theme:
"sh: line 1: cd: /home/angus/.kde/share/apps/kthememgr/Work/: No such file or
directory
fcntl: Bad file descriptor"

It is true that I don't have the /Work directory present.

I actually am getting many lines of the: "fcntl: Bad file 
descriptor" in my .xsession-errors file of late. It may not be related to the themes 
issue. The first line seems to be though. What is "fcntl"?

Is this a clue?

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Packaging systems [was: ANNOUCEMENT: KDE 3.1IS OUT]]

[Anders Lind]

On 28 Jan 2003 14:39:22 +
David Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think Gentoo is based on the ports system , isn't it? The trouble is
that it takes about three days, even on a fast machine, to get a
reasonable desktop system up and running! Pretty awesome, though!


If I remember correctly it is a similiar system, but I can be wrong there, I have 
never looked at Gentoo even though I would like to give it a crack sometime. Yeah, the 
time situation can be a problem, but when I get my new computer at home, I am gonna 
give FreeBSD ago.

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Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

[Kaj Haulrich]

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 06:55 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:


> Fascinating.
>
> I'm glad to hear that they are giving consumers a
> choice.  Although I'm disappointed to hear that they
> "expect" to give winblows preinstalled.
>
> My comment is that I would like to know what their
> partitioning scheme is on the system that you get,
> before it is wiped forevermore.  Also, it does sound
> like a good plan, cause they will have to get all
> devices working before it is shipped out to you.
>
> It might be a good idea to review what modules are
> loaded with an "lsmod" b4 you wipe all the partitions. 
> That way, if you've got something exotic, you've got a
> heads up on it before you go into the Mandrake
> installation.
>
> Not saying that LM won't autodetect everything.  But the
> info may come in handy.
>
> LX


Thanks, Lyvim and Tony.

The story goes on : 5 minutes ago I had a telephone 
conversation with a Dell Denmark representative. He wasn't 
sure what linux-distro they offered, only he gave a 
guarantee, that an Optiplex SX260 would run linux. After 
some additional pressure I managed to get a bargain :

Dell Denmark  will deliver an Optiplex with only a 
rudimentary DOS in it. He claimed that it would be 
necessary in order to get the hard disk running (???) and 
maybe for legal reasons. The price cutoff would be around 
70-80 euros relative to a box with WindowsXP.

Sounds good, eh ?

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Re: [newbie] Packaging systems [was: ANNOUCEMENT: KDE 3.1 IS OUT]

[Anthony Abby]

> No it isn't and frankly compared to ports rpm sucks ;o), don't get me
> wrong rpm is good enough for everyday use, but what I do like with ports
> is that it compiles, of course it takes longer, but it gets adapted for
> your own system.

Takes a little while is right.. on my PII, upgrading KDE via ports takes
about 14-18 hours!  Of course, that's upgrading XFree86 also.
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Re: [newbie] Packaging systems [was: ANNOUCEMENT: KDE 3.1 IS OUT]

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> "Anthony Abby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There aren't any Mandrake rpms yet anyway are there?
>
> I know that RPM's are much simpler to use, but my opinion is that compiling
> is better then using RPM's.
>
> Speaking of packagaingsystems, after installing FreeBSD on our server here
> at work I can't even begin to say how impressed I am by its
> ports-system...it is awsome

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Re: [newbie] Playing LPs in Linux

[Raffaele Belardi]

You need to use a preamp not only for boosting volume, but also for 
equalizing the frequency response of the vinyl player head. If you don't 
do it, the lower frequencies will be too low in volume, while the higher 
frequencies will be too loud (see for example 
http://www.paia.com/riaa.htm for a correct vinyl preamp frequency response)

That said, if you listen to your records through the PC speaker, you 
probably won't notice any difference between a correctly equalized 
recording and one that is not...

raffaele

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Re: [newbie] Theme Manager errors

[et]

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 08:21 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 12:17 pm, Angus Auld wrote:
> > I went to Theme Manager (via KDE Control Center), and attempted to make
> > the changes there.
>
> Angus - under 9.0 I've never found the KDE Control Centre.  I can get all
> the bits from the K-menu > Configuration, but it's annoying to have to do
> it all over again every time you want to look at the next bit.  Can you
> tell me where KCC is?
>
> Anne
on mine...
Kmenu,> just above "home (personal files)" and below "terminals"
or in a term "kcontrol -caption "%c" %i %m" is the command according to 
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Re: [newbie] Theme Manager errors

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 12:17 pm, Angus Auld wrote:

> I went to Theme Manager (via KDE Control Center), and attempted to make the
> changes there. 

Angus - under 9.0 I've never found the KDE Control Centre.  I can get all the 
bits from the K-menu > Configuration, but it's annoying to have to do it all 
over again every time you want to look at the next bit.  Can you tell me 
where KCC is?

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[newbie] Packaging systems [was: ANNOUCEMENT: KDE 3.1 IS OUT]

[Anders Lind]

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:13:08 -0500 (EST)
"Anthony Abby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> There aren't any Mandrake rpms yet anyway are there?

I know that RPM's are much simpler to use, but my opinion is that compiling is better 
then using RPM's.

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Re: [newbie] ANNOUCEMENT: KDE 3.1 IS OUT

[Anthony Abby]

Stephen Kuhn said:
> Just though y'all would like to know that.
>
> Now we can sit back and watch the complete and utter chaos.

There aren't any Mandrake rpms yet anyway are there?

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[newbie] Theme Manager errors

[Angus Auld]

Greetings all,
I have been content thus far with the default KDE theme, 
+ a few modifications of my own thrown in, on my 9.0 
system. I decided to try another theme just for kicks, so 
I went to Theme Manager (via KDE Control Center), and attempted to make the changes 
there. To my surprise, I only get an error box for my effort :
"Theme does not contain a .themerc nor a .theme file."
and CC tells me it, "could not load theme."

I then tried to "create" a "new theme" of my current 
setup, only to be greeted by the exact same errors as 
already detailed.

Anybody have any thoughts as to what is going on with my "Theme Manager?"

TIA for your time/help. 
Best regards.

--Angus

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Re: [newbie] Re:Back to Basics

[et]

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 02:28 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:30:24 -0500, et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sunday 26 January 2003 12:51 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> > > On Sunday 26 January 2003 12:34 pm, et wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > > consider yopa. it is a new distro for th desktop,
> > > > and while I have not yet had a chance to check it out,
> > > > it comes highly recomended by folks I have learned to
> > > > trust. On this list, I think it was "YAMA", Sridhar
> > > > Dhanapalani, that thought this was a good distro, and
> > > > every other bit of advice he gave was right on the
> > > > money.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > et, I'm pretty sure the name is Yoper.
> > >
> > > BTW : where is Sridhar these days ? Miss him too.
> > >
> > > Kaj Haulrich
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> >
> > yep, sorry about that... I see him on PClinuxonline more these days
>
> Hiya all,
>
> Sorry for not being around more often. I really love the Mandrake mailing
> lists, but nowadays most of my time is taken up by PCLinuxOnline and other
> concerns. I'm still on the list, however, and I try to read it as much as I
> can.
>
> I personally haven't tried Yoper, but I have read a lot of good things
> about it. I think it would be worth a shot if you would like a change of
> scenery. I myself am a huge fan of Mandrake and Gentoo, with Debian being a
> good fallback. I tried installing Xandros (a desktop-oriented Debian-based
> distro), but it refused to boot on my machine.
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Re: [newbie] Playing LPs in Linux

[Derek Jennings]

On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 8:51 am, Vahur Lokk wrote:
> Hello!
> I happen to have a rather largish LP collection gathering dust for almost a
> decade since the player broke.
> Now I thought it would be cool to somehow digitize it all and acquired old
> grammophone (is this the right word?). Connected it to my soundcard.
>
> But nothing. No sound in speakers, no sound in files saved (K Sound
> Recorder used). So where to look for mistakes? And what kind of software I
> actually should use for my purposes?
>
> Wahur

I managed to import my old vinyl by connecting the output from the record deck 
directly to the  input of my sound card.  Naturally you have to set your 
mixer to accept input from the correct input device, and to unmute it.

As for software there is a package called 'Gramofile'  available in the 
Contrib directory on any Mandrake mirror.
http://panic.et.tudelft.nl/~costar/gramofile/
It is a command line application, and contains  scratch and rumble filters to 
'spruce up' that worn old vinyl.
I found it necessary to change the default settings to ensure gramofile would 
distinguish the beginning and ending of tracks correctly.

Naturally I saved my imported tracks as ogg files instead of mp3 for reasons 
of quality and 'freedom'.

HTH

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Re: [OT] distros: was [newbie] Re:Back to Basics

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On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 21:58, Kesav Tadimeti wrote:
> Hi all,
> Have you folks tried EVIL ENTITY LINUX, the *UNDEAD* linux desktop? Well, I
> checked out their web page - www.undead.com. Apparently, EELinux COMPLETELY
> deletes all windows partitions. It is not a workstation (read programming
> computer) or server but tries to recreate the Multimedia experience the BeOS
> tried to create (and succeeded). But I wonder if anyone knows the packaging
> system it uses - RPM, PKG...?
> 
> Cheers...
> 
> keshav

Well, one thing is ceratinly a truth to this matter - it's NOT just a
common distro. Enlightenment (latest from CVS) is the window manager and
desktop. Dig that. And for those of us that've been wondering where in
the hec Enlightenment DR17 was at - it's here. All the E! bells and
whistles and whatnot...this ain't no schluff stuff...serious biz here.

Once I get my ADSL (PLEASE SOON PLEASE) I'm gonna get it and blow out
the test workstation to check it out - not sure what packaging it uses,
but hec, it's worth a shot in the arm. Especially having E17 on
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Re: [OT] distros: was [newbie] Re:Back to Basics

[Jerry Barton]

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:28:54 +0530
Kesav Tadimeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> Have you folks tried EVIL ENTITY LINUX, the *UNDEAD* linux desktop? Well, I
> checked out their web page - www.undead.com. Apparently, EELinux COMPLETELY
> deletes all windows partitions. It is not a workstation (read programming
> computer) or server but tries to recreate the Multimedia experience the BeOS
> tried to create (and succeeded). But I wonder if anyone knows the packaging
> system it uses - RPM, PKG...?
> 
> Cheers...
> 
> keshav
> 
> 
> 
> 
Ya know... i saw that on distrowatch and wondered the same thing myself.  If i had a 
box to break i'd install it and see but i don't.  anyone feeling adventerous?  hehehe

Jerry

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Re: [newbie] Playing LPs in Linux

[Colin Jenkins]

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:35:36 +0800
"Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> old record players need something called a "preamp" to boost the signal
> enough for an ordinary amp to pick it up...

if you can send the output of the turntable to the input of a cassette deck, then you 
can use the cassette out to record on your pc (the cassette provides the preamp
 
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Re: [newbie] ANNOUCEMENT: KDE 3.1 IS OUT

[Jerry Barton]

On 28 Jan 2003 20:46:30 +1100
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 19:52, Anders Lind wrote:
> > On 28 Jan 2003 17:42:56 +1100
> > Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Just though y'all would like to know that.
> > > 
> > > Now we can sit back and watch the complete and utter chaos.
> > > 
> > 
> > Yeah, especially us that are running XFce ;o). 
> > 
> > /Anders
> 
> ...or Enlightenment, or Fluxbox, or MLVWM, or Blackbox, or FVWM2, or
> OLVWM, or Wamea, or MWM/TWM, or SCREENWM, or NovaWM, or HazeWM, or
> "I-only-want-to-work-when-I-want-to-work-properly" Gnome2 - OR
> XFCE...(saving ONE of the best for last)...
> 
> I just can't wait to see what the next two weeks are gonna be like on
> this list, the RH list, the KDE list, the Gnome list...panic in the
> virtual-streets! (g)
> 
> Guess we all better brush up on our QT compiling error lists and
> dependency error list FAQ's...(g)
> 
> Onward through the fog!
> 
heh... it took me until just about 2 weeks ago to upgrade to kde 3.0.5/QT 3.1.1... 
maybe next year i'll do KDE 3.1.x  after everyone else has worked out how to do it :P  
LOL

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Re: [newbie] OT-Homeland Security dumps winblows

[Anne Wilson]

On Monday 27 Jan 2003 10:47 am, Jerry Barton wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:14:20 +
>
> Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hmmm... If I wanted to test the extent that the Internet could be brought
> > down - extent, speed of chaos, time to recovery - I would pull my servers
> > off M$ and then let loose the fastest worm I could find.  But then I have
> > a nasty suspicious mind :)
> >
> > Anne
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> (sarcastic grin)
> I'm shocked you'd even suggest the govt. would do that!
> (end sarcastic grin, continue with cynicism)
> LOL
>
> Jerry

Which govt. was that then?  (looking over both shoulders - at the same time)

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[OT] distros: was [newbie] Re:Back to Basics

[Kesav Tadimeti]

Hi all,
Have you folks tried EVIL ENTITY LINUX, the *UNDEAD* linux desktop? Well, I
checked out their web page - www.undead.com. Apparently, EELinux COMPLETELY
deletes all windows partitions. It is not a workstation (read programming
computer) or server but tries to recreate the Multimedia experience the BeOS
tried to create (and succeeded). But I wonder if anyone knows the packaging
system it uses - RPM, PKG...?

Cheers...

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Re: [newbie] OT-Homeland Security dumps winblows

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 21:32, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 10:25 am, Richard Babcock wrote:
> > Are you saying you have servers on M$!!
> > R
> 
> LOL
> 
> Anne

Top Oxymorons of all time:

* Military Intelligence
* Wholesale Discount
* President Bush
* Microsoft Secure Server
* English Cricket Team
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* Microsoft Product Activation
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* Easy Linux
* OS/2 for Dummies
* Complicated Macintosh Program
* Macintosh Hacker
* Honest Politician
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* Truth in advertising
* McAfee or Symantec Professional Antivirus
* President Bush (did I say that twice?)

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Re: [newbie] OT-Homeland Security dumps winblows

[Jerry Barton]

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:14:20 +
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 
> Hmmm... If I wanted to test the extent that the Internet could be brought down 
> - extent, speed of chaos, time to recovery - I would pull my servers off M$ 
> and then let loose the fastest worm I could find.  But then I have a nasty 
> suspicious mind :)
> 
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> 
> 
> 
(sarcastic grin)
I'm shocked you'd even suggest the govt. would do that!
(end sarcastic grin, continue with cynicism)
LOL

Jerry

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Re: [newbie] Playing LPs in Linux

[Jerry Barton]

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:51:22 +0200
Vahur Lokk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello!
> I happen to have a rather largish LP collection gathering dust for almost a 
> decade since the player broke.
> Now I thought it would be cool to somehow digitize it all and acquired old 
> grammophone (is this the right word?). Connected it to my soundcard.
> 
> But nothing. No sound in speakers, no sound in files saved (K Sound Recorder 
> used). So where to look for mistakes? And what kind of software I actually 
> should use for my purposes?
> 
> Wahur
> 
> 
Having spent weeks putting LP's onto cd's i hope i can offer some tips.  

is the phonograph a componant to a system or is it one of those old console 
AM/FM/Phonograph/tape players?

If it's a componant:  get an amp with a phono-in jack and an audio-out or tape-out 
jack (these can be picked up in 2nd hand stores for cheap).  Hook the phono jacks to 
the amp.  Go to your local electronics store and get a patchcord that has a 
"headphone" type stereo jack on one end and whatever kind of jack the amp has for its 
audio-out jacks (usually RCA jacks).  Plug the headphone jack into the "line in" on 
the sound card and the "audio-out" or "tape-out" jack on the amp.  open aumix or 
similar mixer ap on the computer, make sure "line in" is selected for recording and 
adjust the volume level so that you can hear the phonograph playing through your 
computer speakers without distortion then start recording.

If it's a console system, use the headphone jack (you may need an adapter if it has 
the 1/4" headphone jack) and a patchcord with the 1/8" stereo headphone jacks on both 
ends.  turn the volume almost all the way down.  open aumix or similar mixer ap on the 
computer, make sure that "line-in" is selected for recording and turn the "line-in" 
volume ALL THE WAY UP.  Play one of the LP's and adjust the volume on the stereo so 
that you can hear the LP through your computer speakers without distortion.

Fire up your sound recording program and have fun!

btw, there are a couple of aps out there for working with LP's
"gramophile" i think is the name of one of them.  It was included in 8.2, it may be in 
the contribs for 9.0 or maybe even on the install cd's (haven't checked, personally) 
plus there are wave editors like audacity to help you work with the sound file.

Jerry.

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Re: [newbie] OT-Homeland Security dumps winblows

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 10:25 am, Richard Babcock wrote:
> Are you saying you have servers on M$!!
> R

LOL

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RE: [newbie] OT-Homeland Security dumps winblows

[Richard Babcock]

Are you saying you have servers on M$!!
R
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> Hmmm... If I wanted to test the extent that the Internet could be 
> brought down 
> - extent, speed of chaos, time to recovery - I would pull my 
> servers off M$ 
> and then let loose the fastest worm I could find.  But then I 
> have a nasty 
> suspicious mind :)
> 
> Anne


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[newbie] knoppix faux pas

[Richard Babcock]

Greetings,
I did some more research on my knoppix question and found that the distro is
based on Debian. :-(
I humbly beg the pardon of the entire list.
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Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 8:34 am, Vaessen, E.M.J. (Ed) wrote:
> Glad to hear that the Danish are at least a bit flexible.
> Didn't get the Dutch Dell that far: they told me that they simply don't
> have time to check the correct working of their machine other than by
> testing it with WindowsXP. And furthermore there seems to be a law that
> forbids selling of PC's without an OS on it.
> Wonder who made that law.
>
Dell in the UK told me years ago that it was illegal to sell a box without 
windows on it.  This was when I was buying a replacement box for my 
granddaughter.  I stuck out, saying that it certainly was not, quoted my 
registration code, and insisted.  After several phone calls I got the box - 
with a totally unformatted disk.  That was not the bad news they may have 
expected, since I always prefer to partition my disks anyway :)

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Re: [newbie] OT-Homeland Security dumps winblows

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 8:29 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> Check this out:
>
> http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/01/27/1831240.shtml?tid=2
>
>
> - by Tina Gasperson -
> "The United States Department of Homeland Security (www.dhs.gov) changed
> its servers over to Oracle on Linux last week, after running on Windows
> 2000 for several months. Experts say that it is unlikely the change is a
> reaction to "Slammer," the MS SQL server worm that rocked the Internet
> last week.
>
> "Netcraft shows the change took place on January 24th and 25th. The site
> had previously run off the U.S. Office of Personnel Management servers,
> but now is listed with Energis Squared, the same group that hosts the
> White House website"
>
> LX

Hmmm... If I wanted to test the extent that the Internet could be brought down 
- extent, speed of chaos, time to recovery - I would pull my servers off M$ 
and then let loose the fastest worm I could find.  But then I have a nasty 
suspicious mind :)

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RE: [newbie] Merging 2 files

[Richard Babcock]

That will append to file1 eh? Not create file C.
R
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> 
> cat file2 >> file1
> 
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Re: [newbie] ANNOUCEMENT: KDE 3.1 IS OUT

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 19:52, Anders Lind wrote:
> On 28 Jan 2003 17:42:56 +1100
> Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Just though y'all would like to know that.
> > 
> > Now we can sit back and watch the complete and utter chaos.
> > 
> 
> Yeah, especially us that are running XFce ;o). 
> 
> /Anders

...or Enlightenment, or Fluxbox, or MLVWM, or Blackbox, or FVWM2, or
OLVWM, or Wamea, or MWM/TWM, or SCREENWM, or NovaWM, or HazeWM, or
"I-only-want-to-work-when-I-want-to-work-properly" Gnome2 - OR
XFCE...(saving ONE of the best for last)...

I just can't wait to see what the next two weeks are gonna be like on
this list, the RH list, the KDE list, the Gnome list...panic in the
virtual-streets! (g)

Guess we all better brush up on our QT compiling error lists and
dependency error list FAQ's...(g)

Onward through the fog!

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Re: [newbie] Re:Back to Basics

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:30:24 -0500, et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 26 January 2003 12:51 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> > On Sunday 26 January 2003 12:34 pm, et wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> > > consider yopa. it is a new distro for th desktop,
> > > and while I have not yet had a chance to check it out,
> > > it comes highly recomended by folks I have learned to
> > > trust. On this list, I think it was "YAMA", Sridhar
> > > Dhanapalani, that thought this was a good distro, and
> > > every other bit of advice he gave was right on the
> > > money.
> >
> > 
> >
> > et, I'm pretty sure the name is Yoper.
> >
> > BTW : where is Sridhar these days ? Miss him too.
> >
> > Kaj Haulrich
> > ===
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> yep, sorry about that... I see him on PClinuxonline more these days


Hiya all,

Sorry for not being around more often. I really love the Mandrake mailing lists,
but nowadays most of my time is taken up by PCLinuxOnline and other concerns.
I'm still on the list, however, and I try to read it as much as I can.

I personally haven't tried Yoper, but I have read a lot of good things about it.
I think it would be worth a shot if you would like a change of scenery. I myself
am a huge fan of Mandrake and Gentoo, with Debian being a good fallback. I tried
installing Xandros (a desktop-oriented Debian-based distro), but it refused to
boot on my machine.


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RE: [newbie] Playing LPs in Linux

[Franki]

old record players need something called a "preamp" to boost the signal
enough for an ordinary amp to pick it up...

its likely that you are missing one...

can you hear the record using headphones?? if so then the preamp is probably
inbuilt...


rgds

Frank

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vahur Lokk
Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2003 4:51 PM
To: Mandrake Newbie
Subject: [newbie] Playing LPs in Linux


Hello!
I happen to have a rather largish LP collection gathering dust for almost a
decade since the player broke.
Now I thought it would be cool to somehow digitize it all and acquired old
grammophone (is this the right word?). Connected it to my soundcard.

But nothing. No sound in speakers, no sound in files saved (K Sound Recorder
used). So where to look for mistakes? And what kind of software I actually
should use for my purposes?

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[newbie] Playing LPs in Linux

[Vahur Lokk]

Hello!
I happen to have a rather largish LP collection gathering dust for almost a 
decade since the player broke.
Now I thought it would be cool to somehow digitize it all and acquired old 
grammophone (is this the right word?). Connected it to my soundcard.

But nothing. No sound in speakers, no sound in files saved (K Sound Recorder 
used). So where to look for mistakes? And what kind of software I actually 
should use for my purposes?

Wahur


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Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

[Benjamin Pflugmann]

Hi.

On Tue 2003-01-28 at 01:55:33 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 17:38, Kaj Haulrich wrote: 
> > Anyone here managed to install Mandrake 9.0 upon a Dell 
> > Optiplex ? - If yes, what's your mileage / experience ?
> > 
> > My reason for asking : I just contacted Dell Denmark and 
> > asked for an *empty* Optiplex. They were quite negative, 
> > asking why I don't want Windows preinstalled. I told them 
> > that I wanted to install Mandrake. Long pause. Then they 
> > cheered up quite a bit : Actually, they could deliver an 
> > Optiplex with Linux ( RedHat, I suppose) preinstalled !
[...]
> I'm glad to hear that they are giving consumers a choice.  Although I'm
> disappointed to hear that they "expect" to give winblows preinstalled. 

IIRC, it's a concession to their Microsoft OEM license, which doesn't
allow them to ship without OS. But they found that they can circumvent
it, if they install a different OS.

IMHO it was less about expecting Microsoft Windows preinstalled than
having any OS preinstalled. That would well explain their change in
attitude. I guess they talked about Windows, because that is simply
still what most customers ask for (i.e. they would confuse 9 of 10
customers if they asked, if it would be okay to install Linux
instead).

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Re: [newbie] Partition hell - longish

[Anne Wilson]

On Monday 27 Jan 2003 11:16 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
> At 10:20 PM 1/27/2003 +, you wrote:
> >On Monday 27 Jan 2003 9:39 pm, you wrote:
> > > Well, then there's all the more reason to either git'em all working
> > > under MDK or through Win4lin or some other means (VMWare?) - gotta make
> > > it easier on ya kiddo...
> >
> >The odd items of software I need are no problem - win4lin does fine for
> > me. It's just these odd items of hardware, camera, cf/sm reader and a
> > scsi film scanner (though I haven't spent much time on that one yet).  I
> > understand there is an alpha driver that might work for the scanner, so I
> > might try that later.
> >
> >Anne
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>
> Heh I'll forward this to the list for you Anne.  Seems you sent it my way
> accidentally :)
>
Thanks Femme - don't know how that happened ;)

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Re: [newbie] problem - file/directory permissions using samba AND nfs

[Anne Wilson]

On Monday 27 Jan 2003 11:33 pm, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
> I think the problem is since I am not using samba for my linux p.c. to
> connect to the linux server, NFS is keeping my permissions on anything I
> create into the shared directory - thus no one using samba can add
> anything or change what I create within the same shared folder.
>
> Is there any way to make NFS change anything I create on the linux
> server to a "public" share so to speak?  Other than the fact that after
> I create a file or folder in the shared folder - I can go back into and
> chmod 0777 ...but that would be a hassle to do everytime.
>
> Thanks for the help Stephen, I should have seen that one myself but ya
> know sometimes ppl need to just take a break from something that is not
> going right and come back to it later with a fresh mind set.

I don't know anything about nfs really, but I just wondered if this suggestion 
would help.  Why not make a group for those users and make your default group 
to be that one? I would have thought that all of them would be able to use 
the files then, whether locally or remote.

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Re: [newbie] ANNOUCEMENT: KDE 3.1 IS OUT

[Anders Lind]

On 28 Jan 2003 17:42:56 +1100
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just though y'all would like to know that.
> 
> Now we can sit back and watch the complete and utter chaos.
> 

Yeah, especially us that are running XFce ;o). 

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[newbie] OT-Homeland Security dumps winblows

[Lyvim Xaphir]

Check this out:

http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/01/27/1831240.shtml?tid=2


- by Tina Gasperson -
"The United States Department of Homeland Security (www.dhs.gov) changed
its servers over to Oracle on Linux last week, after running on Windows
2000 for several months. Experts say that it is unlikely the change is a
reaction to "Slammer," the MS SQL server worm that rocked the Internet
last week.

"Netcraft shows the change took place on January 24th and 25th. The site
had previously run off the U.S. Office of Personnel Management servers,
but now is listed with Energis Squared, the same group that hosts the
White House website"

LX

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RE: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

[Vaessen, E.M.J. (Ed)]

Glad to hear that the Danish are at least a bit flexible.
Didn't get the Dutch Dell that far: they told me that they simply don't have
time to check the correct working of their machine other than by testing it
with WindowsXP. And furthermore there seems to be a law that forbids selling
of PC's without an OS on it.
Wonder who made that law.

Ed


> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: Lyvim Xaphir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: dinsdag 28 januari 2003 7:56
> Aan: NewbieMandrake-List
> Onderwerp: Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 17:38, Kaj Haulrich wrote: 
> > Anyone here managed to install Mandrake 9.0 upon a Dell 
> > Optiplex ? - If yes, what's your mileage / experience ?
> > 
> > My reason for asking : I just contacted Dell Denmark and 
> > asked for an *empty* Optiplex. They were quite negative, 
> > asking why I don't want Windows preinstalled. I told them 
> > that I wanted to install Mandrake. Long pause. Then they 
> > cheered up quite a bit : Actually, they could deliver an 
> > Optiplex with Linux ( RedHat, I suppose) preinstalled !
> > 
> > Now, I intend to purchase the thingy and install Mandrake, 
> > figuring I can put the golden star upon the red hat.
> > 
> > Comments ? 
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Kaj Haulrich. 
> 
> Fascinating. 
> 
> I'm glad to hear that they are giving consumers a choice.  
> Although I'm
> disappointed to hear that they "expect" to give winblows 
> preinstalled. 
> 
> My comment is that I would like to know what their partitioning scheme
> is on the system that you get, before it is wiped 
> forevermore.  Also, it
> does sound like a good plan, cause they will have to get all devices
> working before it is shipped out to you. 
> 
> It might be a good idea to review what modules are loaded with an
> "lsmod" b4 you wipe all the partitions.  That way, if you've got
> something exotic, you've got a heads up on it before you go into the
> Mandrake installation.
> 
> Not saying that LM won't autodetect everything.  But the info may come
> in handy.
> 
> LX
> 
> 
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RE: [newbie] Dell Optiplex

[Tony S. Sykes]

Kaj,

I did it on a GX150 (1gb Celeron 256mb pc133 ram), no probs, even with
the onboard Intel graphics chip set. The hardest part I had was getting
a Nvidia card which was low-profile for it.

Tony.

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From: Kaj Haulrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:39 PM
To: Newbie
Subject: [newbie] Dell Optiplex


Anyone here managed to install Mandrake 9.0 upon a Dell 
Optiplex ? - If yes, what's your mileage / experience ?

My reason for asking : I just contacted Dell Denmark and 
asked for an *empty* Optiplex. They were quite negative, 
asking why I don't want Windows preinstalled. I told them 
that I wanted to install Mandrake. Long pause. Then they 
cheered up quite a bit : Actually, they could deliver an 
Optiplex with Linux ( RedHat, I suppose) preinstalled !

Now, I intend to purchase the thingy and install Mandrake, 
figuring I can put the golden star upon the red hat.

Comments ? 

Regards

Kaj Haulrich. 
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