Re: [newbie] C header files

2003-03-02 Thread g


Greg Meyer wrote:
On Sunday 02 March 2003 01:45 pm, David E. Fox wrote:

Looks like you forgot to install the kernel-headers rpm.
More likely kernel-sources
may be, he is still pushing his cart,
only now he has new cardboard.


peace out.

tc,hago.

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[newbie] network name cannot be found.

2003-03-02 Thread Seedkum Aladeem
Hi,

I can see the taboo OS machines from my MDK9.0 box running samba but they 
cannot see anybody on the network. They get the following message when they 
try to connect to the network:

WORKGROUP not accessible
The network name cannot be found

The network was working fine before. Can someone help me get it running again?

Thanx,

Seedkum


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[newbie] Pinnacle Studio PCTV USB and Linux

2003-03-02 Thread Jon



Hi,
 
I have finally got my machine to talk to both by CD 
burner and webcam (both USB). Yay. It's only taken about a year (and a new 
version of Mandrake). Does anyone know how to get Linux to talk to Pinnacle 
Studio PCTV USB (v 1.0). A lsusb shows me that it is picking it up but utilities 
like xawtv don't seem to sense it. I have checked the web and seem to get links 
that don't seem to help.
 
Jon.
 
 
 


Re: [newbie] au8830 install in 9.1

2003-03-02 Thread Brian Trainor
Ok, installed the kernel source, and I am still getting the same error 
message.  Upon further examination I noticed /lib/modules/(kernel ver)/build 
does not exist, and from what I can tell from the make file the source would 
very much like to access something there.  Any ideas?


> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Meyer
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:55 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: [newbie] au8830 install in 9.1
> >>
> >> On Sunday 02 March 2003 11:07 pm, Brian Trainor wrote:
> >> > I'm trying to instal the au8830 drivers in Mandrake 9.1rc1
> >>
> >> under KDE 3.1
> >>
> >> What source tarball are you using?  I had to update from aureal
> >> cvs to get it
> >> to build on my machine with 9.1.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Greg


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[newbie] user mode linux question

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
I have played with UML with the basic FS's that are on their site.  
I have actually DLed the MDK 8.2 FS on their site and tested it on
my MDK9 box.  It came up with a bunch of errors, guessing b/c my box
is all scsi.

Ok, down to the real issue.
The UML docs state you can install a distro into its own space and
run it inside the main OS.  Like i have MDK9 installed, i could
(supposedly) install RH8 into its own FS and run it on the same box.
This is very similar to VMWare, just not really.  I have asked on the
mIRC channels for UML and on their mailing list and that went no-where.
Has anyone done this with UML or Vserver???

TIA
Rob

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Re: [newbie] ECS K7S6A motherboard problem with NIC

2003-03-02 Thread erylon hines
On Sunday 02 March 2003 09:55 am, you wrote:
> On Sunday 02 March 2003 08:47 pm, Jean-Pierre Real wrote:
> > I searched the mailing list to see if somebody had any similar trouble
> > and found some problems with that board but nothing that could help me.
> >
> > Do I waste my time with this board and should I consider getting another
> > one?
> > What else could I do to have the NIC having his own irq to check that
> > this is no the problem?
> >
> > I saw from the hardware list that mandrakelabs has certified the k7S6A
> > under Mandrake-Linux prosuite Edition 8.2, could it be that Mandrake 9.0
> > is not working properly with my board?
>
> Did you try either booting the kernel with the noapic parameter or turning
> the APIC (not ACPI) off in the BIOS?

I have this board and everything except the on-board sound was picked up on 
the install.  NIC has always worked.  Sound works too (if you have a problem 
re-post and I'll post the fix).  'Course, I'm still in the dark ages using 
8.2, so with 9.x YMMV, as you mentioned above.  Since everything I have works 
fine, I've seen no reason to migrate to 9.

IRQ 11 is shared with usb-ohci, Eth0, SIS 7012

My nvidia card shares IRQ 5 with usb-ohci.  No other IRQ is shared.  I
am not booting with "noapic" and I never reset apic in my bios. 

e.

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Re: [newbie] Xfree86-4.3.1 in Mdk 9.0 ?

2003-03-02 Thread Harv Nelson
I'm running  MDK 9.0 and 4.3.1 with an SiS 3D-AGP board.  also using a a wheel 
mouse that it didn't like for a while ... no idea why.  It all seems to be 
working now.  Only fault I can see are some little "sparkles" or tiny streaks 
at the left side of the screen when I scroll a page.  I don't think you'd 
notice it if you weren't waiting to see something out of the ordinary.  I 
think it might be my cheapy monitor.

Harv


On Sunday 02 March 2003 10:16 am, mycal62 wrote:
> Hi ,
>
> has anyone tried the new Xfree 4.3 under 9.0?
>
> I am currently running kde 3.1 with Xfree86 version 4.2.1-3mdk using an
> nvidia tnt2 32mg agp card. with the nvidia drivers  version 3123-1mdk
>
> anyone tried it yet? or have any suggestions or hints?
>
> I don't need help installing it , but would appreciate any experiences
> others may have had trying this.
>
> ( and yes I did read the documentation already. )  ;-)


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RE: [newbie] au8830 install in 9.1

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
CVS is what he was using.

>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Meyer
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:55 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [newbie] au8830 install in 9.1
>> 
>> 
>> On Sunday 02 March 2003 11:07 pm, Brian Trainor wrote:
>> > I'm trying to instal the au8830 drivers in Mandrake 9.1rc1 
>> under KDE 3.1
>> >
>> What source tarball are you using?  I had to update from aureal 
>> cvs to get it 
>> to build on my machine with 9.1.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Greg
>> 
>> 

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[newbie] Please check your reply-to settings

2003-03-02 Thread Gregory K. Meyer, CPA
About 8 times today, I replied to a message and had it go directly to the OP 
instead of to the list.  This happens because people have a reply-to set in 
their mail clients.  This is not necessary if your from and reply-to are the 
same.  It is very annoying because once I realize what happened, I have to go 
track down the message in my sent, resend it to the listy and then send a 
note to the OP apologizing and explaingni what happened.

Please check and see if you have a reply-to set in your mail client and unset 
it when posting to the MandrakeSoft mailing lists.

The reply-to is meant for if you want a reply to go to an address that is 
different that the one you are sending the message from.
-- 
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Re: [newbie] au8830 install in 9.1

2003-03-02 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 02 March 2003 11:07 pm, Brian Trainor wrote:
> I'm trying to instal the au8830 drivers in Mandrake 9.1rc1 under KDE 3.1
>
What source tarball are you using?  I had to update from aureal cvs to get it 
to build on my machine with 9.1.

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Re: [newbie] Xfree86-4.3.1 in Mdk 9.0 ?

2003-03-02 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 02 March 2003 11:16 am, mycal62 wrote:
> Hi ,
>
> has anyone tried the new Xfree 4.3 under 9.0?
>
> I am currently running kde 3.1 with Xfree86 version 4.2.1-3mdk using an
> nvidia tnt2 32mg agp card. with the nvidia drivers  version 3123-1mdk
>
> anyone tried it yet? or have any suggestions or hints?
>
> I don't need help installing it , but would appreciate any experiences
> others may have had trying this.
>
> ( and yes I did read the documentation already. )  ;-)

I was able to rebuild the cooker src.rpm on my box, but I have not installed 
it.  That would be the way to go if you want to do it.  Just installing the 
cooker rpms on 9.0 would be bad because it does not have Xft2.
-- 
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Re: [newbie] worried

2003-03-02 Thread Guy Rouillier

- Original Message -
From: "Jose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] worried


> I run both and Win2k as well. Win2K is the best Windows, IMHO.

I absolutely concur.  I have XP courtesy of an MSDN subscription (which
I am seriously considering to let lapse) and I've never installed it.
>From what I can see, it is just window dressing.  No new functionality,
but a lot of frills which slow down the interface.



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RE: [newbie] port monitor sought

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> Well, i made my suggestion only because he was asking
>> for a ZoneAlarm-like program. As you may already know,
>> ZA is a software firewall for Win32, it notifies you of blocked
>> connections as they happen, and can be set up with simple
>> rules. To my eyes, iptables + firestarter are pretty much the
>> same thing, with the only difference that ZA is application-based
>> (i.e. whenever an app wants to access a network interface
>> you are presented with the option to allow that process or not)
>> and Iptables is purely rule-based.

I agree with you stating that Firestarter is good for that.  I have used it
when i started to evolve in the beginning. It was broken half the time.
Then
again i should probably start playing some of the new versions to give it a
fair
shot.
You are correct and i will agree with you stating that it would be the best
for
a beginner looking for something like ZA for Linux.  Its just a huge field
where
it took me about 6 months to fully understand the concept of all the
firewalling/IDS stuff and what is what and who does what.
Rob


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Re: [newbie] au8830 install in 9.1

2003-03-02 Thread Brian Trainor
On Sunday 02 March 2003 11:15 pm, you wrote:
> On Sunday 02 March 2003 11:07 pm, Brian Trainor wrote:
> > I'm trying to instal the au8830 drivers in Mandrake 9.1rc1 under KDE 3.1
>
> What source tarball are you using?  I had to update from aureal cvs to get
> it to build on my machine with 9.1.

I'm using the CVS actually.  Did a check and I don't have the kernel source 
installed, although I thought I did.  At any rate, going to install that and 
try again.  If you got it working, there should be no reason I can't, so it's 
probably just that.
Thanks!


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[newbie] Xfree86-4.3.1 in Mdk 9.0 ?

2003-03-02 Thread mycal62
Hi ,

has anyone tried the new Xfree 4.3 under 9.0?

I am currently running kde 3.1 with Xfree86 version 4.2.1-3mdk using an 
nvidia tnt2 32mg agp card. with the nvidia drivers  version 3123-1mdk

anyone tried it yet? or have any suggestions or hints?

I don't need help installing it , but would appreciate any experiences 
others may have had trying this.

( and yes I did read the documentation already. )  ;-)

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~~

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MDK 9.0 kernel 2.4.19-16 Kde 3.1 Registered Linux User #248955

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Then you have lost sight of your goal! " 



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RE: [newbie] au8830 install in 9.1

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
Do you have the kernel source installed
Just install the rpm version that your using from the RC1 DL cd's.
Rob

>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Trainor
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:07 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [newbie] au8830 install in 9.1
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to instal the au8830 drivers in Mandrake 9.1rc1 under KDE 3.1
>>
>> It's not going well.  Here's some error message for ya:
>>
>> In file included from au_vortex.h:54,
>>  from au_audio.c:49:
>> /usr/include/linux/module.h:299: parse error before "UTS_RELEASE"
>> /usr/include/linux/module.h: In function `print_symbol':
>> /usr/include/linux/module.h:433: `ESRCH' undeclared (first use in this
>> function)
>> /usr/include/linux/module.h:433: (Each undeclared identifier is
>> reported only
>> once
>> /usr/include/linux/module.h:433: for each function it appears in.)
>> In file included from au_vortex.h:55,
>>  from au_audio.c:49:
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:2:2: #error
>> "==="
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:3:2: #error "You should not include
>> /usr/include/{linux,asm}/ header"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:4:2: #error "files directly for the
>> compilation
>> of kernel modules."
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:5:2: #error ""
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:6:2: #error "glibc now uses kernel
>> header files
>> from a well-defined"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:7:2: #error "working kernel version (as
>> recommended by Linus Torvalds)"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:8:2: #error "These files are glibc
>> internal and
>> may not match the"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:9:2: #error "currently running kernel. They
>> should only be"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:10:2: #error "included via other
>> system header
>> files - user space"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:11:2: #error "programs should not directly
>> include  or"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:12:2: #error " as well."
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:13:2: #error ""
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:14:2: #error "To build kernel
>> modules please do
>> the following:"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:15:2: #error ""
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:16:2: #error " o Have the kernel sources
>> installed"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:17:2: #error ""
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:18:2: #error " o Make sure that the
>> symbolic
>> link"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:19:2: #error "
>> /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
>> exists and points to"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:20:2: #error "   the matching kernel source
>> directory"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:21:2: #error ""
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:22:2: #error " o Now copy
>> /boot/vmlinuz.version.h
>> to"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:23:2: #error "   /lib/modules/`uname
>> -r`/build/include/linux/version.h"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:24:2: #error ""
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:25:2: #error " o When compiling,
>> make sure to use
>> the following"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:26:2: #error "   compiler option to use the
>> correct include files:"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:27:2: #error ""
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:28:2: #error "   -I/lib/modules/`uname
>> -r`/build/include"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:29:2: #error ""
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:30:2: #error "   instead of"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:31:2: #error ""
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:32:2: #error "   -I/usr/include/linux"
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:33:2: #error ""
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:34:2: #error "   Please adjust the Makefile
>> accordingly."
>> /usr/include/linux/version.h:35:2: #error
>> "==="
>> In file included from au_audio.c:49:
>> au_vortex.h:70:41: missing binary operator before '('
>> In file included from au_vortex.h:73,
>>  from au_audio.c:49:
>> /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h: At top level:
>> /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:31: conflicting types for `spinlock_t'
>> /usr/include/linux/spinlock.h:73: previous declaration of `spinlock_t'
>> /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:80: parse error before "do"
>> /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:116: parse error before '{' token
>> /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:126: parse error before "void"
>> /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:157: conflicting types for `rwlock_t'
>> /usr/include/linux/spinlock.h:137: previous declaration of `rwlock_t'
>> /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:182: parse error before "void"
>> /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:191: parse error before "void"
>> au_vortex.h:76:41: missing binary operator before '('
>> au_vortex.h:120:41: missing binary operator before '('
>> au_vortex.h:126:41: missing binary operator before '('
>> au_vortex.h:154:41: missing binary operator before '('
>> au_vortex.h:205:41: missing binary operator before '('
>> In file included from au_audio.c:50:
>>
>> it goes on like this for quite some time.  Can anyone figure o

[newbie] au8830 install in 9.1

2003-03-02 Thread Brian Trainor
I'm trying to instal the au8830 drivers in Mandrake 9.1rc1 under KDE 3.1

It's not going well.  Here's some error message for ya:

In file included from au_vortex.h:54,
 from au_audio.c:49:
/usr/include/linux/module.h:299: parse error before "UTS_RELEASE"
/usr/include/linux/module.h: In function `print_symbol':
/usr/include/linux/module.h:433: `ESRCH' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
/usr/include/linux/module.h:433: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only 
once
/usr/include/linux/module.h:433: for each function it appears in.)
In file included from au_vortex.h:55,
 from au_audio.c:49:
/usr/include/linux/version.h:2:2: #error 
"==="
/usr/include/linux/version.h:3:2: #error "You should not include 
/usr/include/{linux,asm}/ header"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:4:2: #error "files directly for the compilation 
of kernel modules."
/usr/include/linux/version.h:5:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:6:2: #error "glibc now uses kernel header files 
from a well-defined"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:7:2: #error "working kernel version (as 
recommended by Linus Torvalds)"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:8:2: #error "These files are glibc internal and 
may not match the"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:9:2: #error "currently running kernel. They 
should only be"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:10:2: #error "included via other system header 
files - user space"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:11:2: #error "programs should not directly 
include  or"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:12:2: #error " as well."
/usr/include/linux/version.h:13:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:14:2: #error "To build kernel modules please do 
the following:"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:15:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:16:2: #error " o Have the kernel sources 
installed"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:17:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:18:2: #error " o Make sure that the symbolic 
link"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:19:2: #error "   /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build 
exists and points to"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:20:2: #error "   the matching kernel source 
directory"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:21:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:22:2: #error " o Now copy /boot/vmlinuz.version.h 
to"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:23:2: #error "   /lib/modules/`uname 
-r`/build/include/linux/version.h"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:24:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:25:2: #error " o When compiling, make sure to use 
the following"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:26:2: #error "   compiler option to use the 
correct include files:"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:27:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:28:2: #error "   -I/lib/modules/`uname 
-r`/build/include"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:29:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:30:2: #error "   instead of"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:31:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:32:2: #error "   -I/usr/include/linux"
/usr/include/linux/version.h:33:2: #error ""
/usr/include/linux/version.h:34:2: #error "   Please adjust the Makefile 
accordingly."
/usr/include/linux/version.h:35:2: #error 
"==="
In file included from au_audio.c:49:
au_vortex.h:70:41: missing binary operator before '('
In file included from au_vortex.h:73,
 from au_audio.c:49:
/usr/include/asm/spinlock.h: At top level:
/usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:31: conflicting types for `spinlock_t'
/usr/include/linux/spinlock.h:73: previous declaration of `spinlock_t'
/usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:80: parse error before "do"
/usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:116: parse error before '{' token
/usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:126: parse error before "void"
/usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:157: conflicting types for `rwlock_t'
/usr/include/linux/spinlock.h:137: previous declaration of `rwlock_t'
/usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:182: parse error before "void"
/usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:191: parse error before "void"
au_vortex.h:76:41: missing binary operator before '('
au_vortex.h:120:41: missing binary operator before '('
au_vortex.h:126:41: missing binary operator before '('
au_vortex.h:154:41: missing binary operator before '('
au_vortex.h:205:41: missing binary operator before '('
In file included from au_audio.c:50:

it goes on like this for quite some time.  Can anyone figure out what the hell 
is going on there, because I'm lost.

Thank you for your time,
Brian Trainor

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Re: [newbie] port monitor sought

2003-03-02 Thread Damian Gatabria
On Sunday 02 de March 2003 23:55, Robert Wideman wrote:
> >> Have you tried firestarter? It's quite simpler than
> >> ZoneAlarm  --it only has two tabs, one which reports
> >> connection attempts and blocked packets, and the other
> >> inside of which you can create rules for your firewall
> >>
> >> http://firestarter.sf.net
>
> Ok, this is what initially got me into Linuxfirewalling and security.
> I am not saying i am the shit.  God knows that i am not.  I am just saying
> this is a HUGE field that you actually got to do the research yourself b/c
> there are so many capabilities of apps out there.
>
> Also, i am not stating that Damien is incorrect in his information.
>
> Firestarter is not a port "monitor".  It is a front end to IPTables.
> IPTables is a firewall.  If your wanting a port monitor look into Snort
> or other IDS (intrusion detection system).  Snort is the best IDS out
> there, with options of a firewall.  If your wanting a firewall then go
> with IPtables.  If you go with IPTables and you want a GUI configurator
> then go with Firestarter.

Well, i made my suggestion only because he was asking
for a ZoneAlarm-like program. As you may already know,
ZA is a software firewall for Win32, it notifies you of blocked
connections as they happen, and can be set up with simple
rules. To my eyes, iptables + firestarter are pretty much the
same thing, with the only difference that ZA is application-based
(i.e. whenever an app wants to access a network interface
you are presented with the option to allow that process or not)
and Iptables is purely rule-based.

You are correct anyway, i was not talking about a port monitor at
all. But i did not intend to.

Damian


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Re: [newbie] Worried

2003-03-02 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 02 March 2003 07:05 pm, Mark Weaver wrote:

> Hi Ron,
>
> I wouldn't know a dupe message if I fell over it. In fact I haven't seen
> one since I started using procmail filtering two years ago. Although I have
> been wondering about whats been going on with the lists the last few days.
> Any ideas...info?

Well, they had a discussion/explanation one time (or maybe a couple of times) 
about why there were duplicate messages on the list at times. I can't 
remember exactly how it went, but it did make sense. :-)

Usually though, when its the list itself, you'll see the repeated msgs one 
right after the other...

A Troll...on the other hand, tends to reseed them every so often, appearing 
here and there...

At least thats been my experience...

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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

2003-03-02 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 02 March 2003 06:58 pm, David E. Fox wrote:

> singing...
>
> Oh the yellow rose of Kentucky
> la la la la la la
>
> hmm. Doesn't have the same ring. :(

Heh. Neither does "My old Texas Home"... 

Methinks we should leave well enough alone...

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Re: [newbie] Change mouse pointers ?

2003-03-02 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 02 March 2003 07:53 pm, Rifza Adriansyah wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> Can I change the arrow mouse pointer with something else like in M$
> Windows ?. My friend told me that it is a disadvantage of XFree. I
> hope I can change an arrow pointer with a fish pointer or anything
> else. Thanks for any help.

You will be able to (I think) in 9.1.  It is a feature add in XFree 4.3
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RE: [newbie] port monitor sought

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> Have you tried firestarter? It's quite simpler than
>> ZoneAlarm  --it only has two tabs, one which reports
>> connection attempts and blocked packets, and the other
>> inside of which you can create rules for your firewall
>>
>> http://firestarter.sf.net

Ok, this is what initially got me into Linuxfirewalling and security.
I am not saying i am the shit.  God knows that i am not.  I am just saying
this is a HUGE field that you actually got to do the research yourself b/c
there are so many capabilities of apps out there.

Also, i am not stating that Damien is incorrect in his information.

Firestarter is not a port "monitor".  It is a front end to IPTables.
IPTables is a firewall.  If your wanting a port monitor look into Snort
or other IDS (intrusion detection system).  Snort is the best IDS out
there, with options of a firewall.  If your wanting a firewall then go
with IPtables.  If you go with IPTables and you want a GUI configurator
then go with Firestarter.

The difference being:
firewall: you setup to block/allow certain packets going in/out of certain
ports.  For instance, if you have a web server but not an ftp server, you
allow
port 80 and block port 21.
IDS: you look at each packet and see if the insides look like an attack that
is defined by your ruleset.  For instance, if you have an ftp server you
obviously
allow port 21 BUT you look at each packet and see if it contains malformed
packets
that would possibly look like a DDoS or something else where the intruder is
trying
to actually attack the ftp server to grab your /etc/passwd file.  Thats more
or less
security of the FTP server BUT it can be configured in your IDS rules.

Just remember that a "port monitor" and a firewall are totally different.
IPTables and Snort can actually do monitoring and firewalling BUT
IPTables is made for firewalling and Snort is made for IDS.

If your wanting "port monitor" then Snort would be it.
http://www.snort.org for cabled networks
http://airsnort.shmoo.com for wifi

For IP Tables and firewall
http://www.netfilter.org

Rob


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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> Hush, rob, or we'll cut Alaska in two and make Texas the third 
>> largest state.

LOLso true.  Its weird that Alaska is double the size of Texas.

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Re: [newbie] port monitor sought

2003-03-02 Thread Damian Gatabria

> >
> > Is there something similar to ZoneAlarm available for linux?  Or can you
> > reccomend another application?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Andrei

Have you tried firestarter? It's quite simpler than
ZoneAlarm  --it only has two tabs, one which reports
connection attempts and blocked packets, and the other
inside of which you can create rules for your firewall

http://firestarter.sf.net

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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

2003-03-02 Thread civileme
On Sunday 02 March 2003 09:39 am, Robert Wideman wrote:
> >> Asked like someone from a small state:-)
>
> HAHA.  I live in the largest state there is (atleast in the continuous 48
> states)...Texas.
> Alaska is too far away from anything for me.
> Rob


Hush, rob, or we'll cut Alaska in two and make Texas the third largest state.

;-)

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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows Update security unveiled

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> Tom:
>> You bring up a good point. The only valid conclusion is that 
>> either they are 
>> perjurers and monopolists, or traitors and monopolists. Don't hold your 
>> breath waiting for John Ashcroft to announce that anyone has 
>> been indicted, 
>> though.

I would say they are Traitors and Monopolists.  Since they take school
districts and government agencies to court over licenses for billions
of dollars
WHY in gods name take school districts to court when they are already
low on money and firing teachers left and right b/c of the type of
situation with the economy?  They are just making it worse.  They could
atleast give high schools and below (elementary and middle/junior high)
licenses for the desency of our youth trying to learn.  Does MS want
the youngsters of today to learn Linux (which is starting to happen with
RH and the RHCE program) or do they want them to learn MS, or does MS
want districts to actually purchase Apple products?  , geee, i wonder.

Seems like more and more everyday districts and colleges are going with
Linux b/c it is free/cheap.

Rob

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[newbie] Change mouse pointers ?

2003-03-02 Thread Rifza Adriansyah
Hi everyone,
Can I change the arrow mouse pointer with something else like in M$ 
Windows ?. My friend told me that it is a disadvantage of XFree. I 
hope I can change an arrow pointer with a fish pointer or anything 
else. Thanks for any help.

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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows Update security unveiled

2003-03-02 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 02 March 2003 10:40 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Sunday March 2 2003 06:21 am, Dennis & Sue wrote:
> > > I wonder if the Chinese - whom Big Bad Bill is going to visit,
> > > fully understand the gist of security issues by signing on the
> > > dotted line...
> >
> > I'm sure they will have a special site just to themselves. Where M$
> > "promises" not to spy on them. And I'm sure M$ won't. ( Not right
> > away anyways, Gotta lull them into a false sense of security first
> > ).
>
>   Speaking of security. During the DoJ/M$ trial(s), the States
> wanted M$ to release Windows source.  M$ argued that to do so would
> compromise National Security. So it's either ironic, or criminal that
> they're now furnishing it to the Chinese and some other governments.

Tom:
You bring up a good point. The only valid conclusion is that either they are 
perjurers and monopolists, or traitors and monopolists. Don't hold your 
breath waiting for John Ashcroft to announce that anyone has been indicted, 
though.
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RE: [newbie] no sound in 9.0

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> >>>AMD Mainboard that uses SiS 740 chipset. It also has a built in AC97
>> >>>Codec.  I am not sure what other information you might need out of the
>> >>>book.  I am very new to Mandrake Linux.  There is so much I don't
>> >>>understand.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks  Brenda

What motherboard do you have?  including model #.
Once i have that i will research fo you and give the list what i find.
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Re: [newbie] Worried

2003-03-02 Thread Mark Weaver
Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Sunday 02 March 2003 07:01 am, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:

Now don't get me wrong I love linux and  have been with Mandrake since v6.0
though I must say in my opinion v9.0 is not one of it's best, perhaps,
sorry, definately a bit hasty with this release!


Well Andrew, I have a question for you:

R U a Troll?

I've seen this same message a couple of times now. In fact, as is "per normal" 
for this list, it received excellantly reasoned and constructed responses.  
Hi Ron,

I wouldn't know a dupe message if I fell over it. In fact I haven't seen one 
since I started using procmail filtering two years ago. Although I have been 
wondering about whats been going on with the lists the last few days. Any 
ideas...info?

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Re: [newbie] no sound in 9.0

2003-03-02 Thread Mark Weaver
lewis wrote:
On Saturday 01 March 2003 05:19 pm, robin wrote:

lewis wrote:

Hello,  I have Mandrake Linux 9.0 installed on my computer.  The sound
doesn't work but it does on the windows side of the partition.  I have an
AMD Mainboard that uses SiS 740 chipset. It also has a built in AC97
Codec.  I am not sure what other information you might need out of the
book.  I am very new to Mandrake Linux.  There is so much I don't
understand.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks  Brenda
Try exiting X-window and running sndconfig (as root).

Sir Robin


Hi,  I logged in as root and tried the sndconfig, but it says no PNP or PCI 
sound cards were found.  It said to select my card type but I didn't know 
which one to pick.  I did try the Intel i810 AC97 Audio but no luck.   I also 
looked at Mandrake Control Center but the hardware list only had a floppy, 
disk, CDRom, and mouse.  Thanks again.   Brenda
I'm betting that your sound card is of the onboard variety. This being the 
case you be need to try another card. Disable the onboard card in the BIOS 
and stick another sound card in. Mdk9.0 likes the Ensoniq chipset fairly 
well. At least a bit better then it likes the Intel i810 chipset.

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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

2003-03-02 Thread David E. Fox
> song and ditty that elaborates on how big and bad Texas is would have to
> be changed.

singing...

Oh the yellow rose of Kentucky
la la la la la la

hmm. Doesn't have the same ring. :(


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RE: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> look at the bright side Anne. At least you're not still fighting 
>> with Java 
>> and Mozy. :P

She has a ways to catch up with me this month if i keep on like i am.
ROFL
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Re: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

2003-03-02 Thread Mark Weaver
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 3:34 pm, Todd Slater wrote:

Most active posters

   200   Robert Wideman
   158   Anne Wilson


Shucks - I'm still talking too much.  I thought I'd been quieter lately.

Anne
look at the bright side Anne. At least you're not still fighting with Java 
and Mozy. :P

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Re: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

2003-03-02 Thread Mark Weaver
Todd Slater wrote:
Monthly stats for Mandrake-newbie

Total posts processed:3027

Most active threads

 86  Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
 47  Xwindows Stability
 43  Lovin' KDE 3.1
 38  OT?, help convince my b/f running as root is bad!
 34  Update the kernel ?
 34  Another one...
 34 
 33  This fellow needs help. His mails are being rejected.
 33  NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
 33  Fun discussion question for the list
Most active posters

200	 Robert Wideman 
158	 Anne Wilson 
135	 et 
123	 Greg Meyer 
104	 Stephen Kuhn 
100	 FemmeFatale 
 78	 Derek Jennings 
 77	 civileme 
 77	 Tom Brinkman 
 72	 Ronald J. Hall 
heh! Stephen!! you're still in the top five.  :)

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Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)

2003-03-02 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 02:37, Margot wrote:
> Hello All
> 
> Had to step back from this problem for a while, for health reasons. Back
> now, and have got a bit further, but not much!
> 
> Have abandoned eurobell as ISP, and gone with freeserve anytime. Have set it
> all up in MCC/kppp and Mozilla (thanks to John Richard Smith for freeserve
> screenshots), but still having problems.
> 
> Subscribed to the Berlin news server via Win 98 machine, and next time I
> tried to connect via Linux machine the news.cis.dfn.de account automatically
> showed up in Mozilla - but when I tried to subscribe to newsgroups I got
> "Failed to connect to server news.cis.dfn.de". Seems to me that it HAS
> connected to the server - or how would Mozilla know that I had registered
> for that service - but for some reason it won't let me see the information
> that is coming from the server!
> 
> When trying to receive email, I get "Failed to connect to server
> pop.freeserve.com". Attempted browsing gives me a message at the bottom of
> the browser screen "Resolving host www.google.co.uk" and a box in the middle
> of the browser saying "www.google.co.uk  could not be found. Please check
> the name and try again".
> 
> By mistake the other day I forgot to set kppp running before trying
> Mozilla - and got the exact same error messages on mail, news and browse
> without even being connected to the internet!
> 
> I have tried to ping, and got strange results - when I did ping
> www.yahoo.com I got "unknown host www.yahoo.com, but when I tried ping
> 66.218.71.83 (the numeric version of yahoo) I got "PING 66.218.71.83
> (66.218.71.83) from 217.134.91.169 : 56(84) bytes of data. I don't
> understand why it works by number but not by name.
> 
> Can anyone help me further?
> 
> Thanks
> Margot

It is most obviously a network problem - either your KPPP setup is
incorrect, or the actual local machine settings are incorrect. You
should go through all the settings for KPPP and make sure that you're
putting in their Primary and Secondary DNS entries, as well as setting
it to use a server given IP address.

Often I have run across network problems with KPPP, hence my aversion to
using it - preferring to use WV-DIAL instead (along with Xwvdial as the
GUI interface).

WV-DIAL in on the MDK disks - can't quite remember which one, but it's a
tad more simplistic in it's setup - more of a static setup and easier to
get to the bits and bobs for doing further configurations - as well, it
leaves a really nice little text file in the /etc directory that is very
easily modified.

Another thing to make sure is that your modem is being initialised
properly - I have seen in some instances that the modems basic init
strings disallow proper network flow - a good standard init string is:

AT &F &C1 &D2 E1 Q0 V1 (for literally any modem)

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-02 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 02:29, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> 
> Hmm, probably wrong but I always thought the "C" was for color...

Maybe we're wrong and the "C" stands for CONTRAST - the black against
the white, perchance?

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women, for the use of." There was *always* a snag. If a choir of angels
asked for volunteers for Paradise to step forward, Nobby knew enough to
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Re: [newbie] C header files

2003-03-02 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 19:17, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> Much conventional question this time (sorry about the last one I really didn't 
> mean to offend or annoy).
> 
> Anyway I'm trying to install VMware 3.1 and after installation I get this 
> message when trying to run:
> 
> VMware Workstation Error:
> VMware Workstation is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured 
> for your running kernel.  To (re-)configure it, your system administrator 
> must find and run "vmware-config.pl".
> 
> After running vmware-config.pl  I get this message:
> 
> None of VMware Workstation's pre-built vmmon modules is suitable for your 
> running kernel.  Do you want this script to try to build the vmmon module for 
> your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)?
> 
> After choosing yes I receive another message:
> 
> Argument "gcc (GCC) 3" isn't numeric in numeric ge (>=) at 
> /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl line 1476,  line 1.
> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your 
> running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
> 
> Where are these files please they are not in the directory it suggested  
> [/usr/src/linux/include].  I've tried allsorts but with no luck.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Andrew
> 

You're going to need to install the kernel sources and header files - I
think they're on CD3 - but could be on CD2 - either which, once you get
the kernel sources and headers installed, you can then safely run the
config script for VMWare without any further hassles.

I manually added the kernel sources because I didn't want to depend on
the Mandrake Control Centre and the Software Manager - but someone else
might have a better way of doing the installation of the kernel
sources...

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need someone to drink alcohol, bottles of, and make love, passionate, to
women, for the use of." There was *always* a snag. If a choir of angels
asked for volunteers for Paradise to step forward, Nobby knew enough to
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Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta

2003-03-02 Thread David E. Fox
> What number of 1k blocks will fit on a 1.44Mb DOS floppy? (I dont know where 
> to read the available space. I can see usage with 'df' or in konq, but not 
> free space.)

Like another poster said, 1440 1K blocks. On the other hand, that
assumes you don't put a filesystem on it, which would take up some
portion of the available space. 

> 
> Do you create the volumed tarball direct to floppy's or on the hard drive 
> first?

Either. But you can send the tar right to the floppy, without creating
a file system first. You just need to visualize the floppy disk as a
short, flattened tape :).

# tar -cvf /dev/fd0 /path/to/data


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Re: [newbie] Worried

2003-03-02 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 02 March 2003 07:27 am, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:

> is the average end user perspective.

I think your point is understood, although what gets me, is that many times, 
and I'm not saying you did this, when comparing the two from a "Windows user" 
or "average user" perspective, we forget about how much we know about 
windows, and how much we don't know about the alternative.  To a windows 
user, the linux way is too hard and too much work.  The conclusion is always 
that if I have to learn anything, it is not as easy as Windows.  At this 
point in time, it is about re-learning, not being harder.  

Case in point:  Installing the nVidia video driver.  

Under windows, I click on a file, click yes, agree, yes yes, reboot, change 
the screen resolution and depth in display settings and reboot.   On linux, I 
type "rpm -ivh NVIDIA*" and then make a couple of minor changes to a config 
file and restart the X server.  

But if you objectively evaluate the differences without regard to what the 
user already knows, I believe the linux method is a lot faster and is less 
work.  If I timed it, it would be a lot faster and I did not have to reboot.  
But to the Windows user, who is not *familiar* with linux, it *seems* a lot 
harder.  But once educated and familiar with the process, it isn't harder 
after all.

I at one point I even agreed with this, but as I got *familiar* with it, I 
started to see why it wasn't easier.  Now yes, there are places where Linux 
is in fact harder, but there are places where Windows is hard too.

So when people say they want things to be easy like Windows, they are really 
saying 'I don't want to learn another way right now" and I think that is 
okay.  I just wish the endless comparisons of which is better would be more 
honest about stuff like this.
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Re: [newbie] Worried

2003-03-02 Thread Dennis Myers
On Sunday 02 March 2003 06:27 am, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Can I please state for the record that I am a complete Linux supporter.  I
> have been with Mandrake since version 6 and although having left the arena,
> so to speak, for sometime now I still believe that linux is the best OS
> system around and Mandrake the best version.
>
> What my original e-mail was trying to show (and I apologise for not making
> this clear) is the average end user perspective. There is much talk here,
> as there always has been, of Linux-v-Windows and I was just illustrating,
> after my installation of XP, as to what a windows user must think when
> faced with Md9 or any other linux version for the first time.
>
> In my opinion too much time and effort is directed towards "converting" the
> windows user to linux and basically I was showing that although linux is by
> far the better of the two, XP gives people what they want and damn fast.
>
> Some of you have said that chaning desktops will improve preformance but as
> I originally stated I don't want to, again getting my head into a windows
> users perspective where KDE or Gnome is the more familiar.  Showing some
> new person Enlightenment or even ICEwm is not going to impress at all. 
> They want familiararity, hence my choice of desktop.
>
> I hope this has made my stance clear,
>
> Andrew
Not a problem here Andrew, I understood what you were saying. Although some 
folks maybe did not. The point is well taken and I agree. Problem is, most 
people don't look before they leap and as I mentioned end up with chains on 
their legs and hands cause they didn't know the consequences of their 
actions. On the other hand there are people like my wife who do not (not 
cannot) want to learn a few things to break their bonds. My wife is a AOL 
user and windows is her game, period. Oh, I'll get her eventually, and folks 
on the list keep feeding me more ammunition, so one day she will change. If 
that's all right with her of course. (Husbands' copout sentence). : P
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Re: [newbie] First connection w/ 9.1rc1

2003-03-02 Thread Dennis Myers
On Sunday 02 March 2003 01:11 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Sunday 02 March 2003 02:06 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > Ok!, I am on the LAN and connected to the internet with a BioStar M7VIG
> > Pro motherboard and a duron 750mhz processor. The onboard NIC works, The
> > onboard video works, the onboard sound has no driver. It is a via chip
> > using the ac97 codec and reports no driver available.  I could not get a
> > internet connection through the rc1 KDE setup so switched to gnome and
> > am able to connect. Can't figure that out. I will look at the sys logs
> > and see if I can tell what changed. I was also getting a comp shut down
> > when the screensaver goes blank. Anyone know what that might be? I
> > changed out my cpu fan and made sure it is running so will have to see
> > if that solves the problem, otherwise could it be bios or the APIC
> > thing? Testing will go on with rc2 we hope.
> >
> > --
> > Dennis M. linux user #180842
>
> I have a M7VKQ that has the via KLE133 chipset and the sound is
> autodetected and set up.  Are you sure it is enabled in BIOS?  What is the
> specific VIA chipset?   if you don't know, post the output from "lspci -v"
> as root.
Sorry, I can't dig it up. I put in a asound sound card and it was auto 
detected and works very well, so I do have sound. Later if need be I will try 
again with the onboard, all I can say is the config tool in MCC said there 
was no support for that via chipset, whatever it was. Thanks for the reply, 
as always with linux, "never say die" unless your talking about M$.
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Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)

2003-03-02 Thread Dennis Myers
On Sunday 02 March 2003 01:54 pm, Margot wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 6:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
>
> 
>
> > Ummm
> >
> > sounds like a cookie/nameserver problem (two problems with similar
>
> results)
>
> > First resolve the nameserver problem
> >
> > Then take care of the cookies by re-registering for the services.
> >
> > For the nameserver problem, let us see the output of a command line
> >
> > 1.  Open a terminal
> > 2.  Type the command
> > 3.  highlight the output with the mouse
> > 4.  click on the email window and middle-click (or right and lefgt click
>
> at
>
> > same time) to paste
>
> Actually printed out then retyped the output - because the email on the
> linux machine isn't working! - but thanks for the tip about the middle
> mouse button, I had wondered what it was for.
>
> > The command is
> >
> > $ cat /etc/resolv.conf
>
> search localdomain eurobell.co.uk
> search localdomain
> search localdomain freeserve.com
> search localdomain freeserve.com
> # nameserver 192.168.100.6
> nameserver 192.168.0.2
> nameserver 212.24.65.65
> nameserver 212.24.65.199
>
> # ppp temp entry
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] user]
>
> Presumably I need to remove the first line, but what about the others?
>
> > Also in kppp make sure you have some nameservers set or that you are
>
> getting
>
> > automated retrieval
>
> ... is set to Automatic
>
> > Civileme
>
> Thanks for your help.
> Margot

Margot , here is my resolv.conf

nameserver 192.168.0.1
nameserver 68.13.16.30
search cox.net
based on that I would say that you only need what is related to your comp and 
freeserve. So 
search freeserve.com
nameserver 192.168.100.6
nameserver 212.24.65.65
nameserver 212.24 65.199
assuming that the last two are indeed the nameserver IPs for freeserve. 
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Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW

2003-03-02 Thread Andy Davidson
On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 11:11:33AM -0800, David E. Fox wrote:
> 
> I don't think compression in backups is such a good idea. If there are 
> media problems a bad spot could hose most of the backup.

Not really true if you're using something like afio to pack up and
compress the files.  The archive format used by afio allows it to
recover from read errors and go on unpacking the next file.

And if you are backing up to CD-R, then compression is of great help
in keeping the number of CDs down. 

andy

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Re: [newbie] Worried

2003-03-02 Thread Andrew Scotchmer
Hi all

Can I please state for the record that I am a complete Linux supporter.  I 
have been with Mandrake since version 6 and although having left the arena, 
so to speak, for sometime now I still believe that linux is the best OS 
system around and Mandrake the best version.

What my original e-mail was trying to show (and I apologise for not making 
this clear) is the average end user perspective. There is much talk here, as 
there always has been, of Linux-v-Windows and I was just illustrating, after 
my installation of XP, as to what a windows user must think when faced with 
Md9 or any other linux version for the first time.

In my opinion too much time and effort is directed towards "converting" the 
windows user to linux and basically I was showing that although linux is by 
far the better of the two, XP gives people what they want and damn fast.

Some of you have said that chaning desktops will improve preformance but as I 
originally stated I don't want to, again getting my head into a windows users 
perspective where KDE or Gnome is the more familiar.  Showing some new person 
Enlightenment or even ICEwm is not going to impress at all.  They want 
familiararity, hence my choice of desktop.

I hope this has made my stance clear,

Andrew

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Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)

2003-03-02 Thread Margot

- Original Message -
From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)



> Ummm
>
> sounds like a cookie/nameserver problem (two problems with similar
results)
>
> First resolve the nameserver problem
>
> Then take care of the cookies by re-registering for the services.
>
> For the nameserver problem, let us see the output of a command line
>
> 1.  Open a terminal
> 2.  Type the command
> 3.  highlight the output with the mouse
> 4.  click on the email window and middle-click (or right and lefgt click
at
> same time) to paste

Actually printed out then retyped the output - because the email on the
linux machine isn't working! - but thanks for the tip about the middle mouse
button, I had wondered what it was for.

> The command is
>
> $ cat /etc/resolv.conf

search localdomain eurobell.co.uk
search localdomain
search localdomain freeserve.com
search localdomain freeserve.com
# nameserver 192.168.100.6
nameserver 192.168.0.2
nameserver 212.24.65.65
nameserver 212.24.65.199

# ppp temp entry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] user]

Presumably I need to remove the first line, but what about the others?

> Also in kppp make sure you have some nameservers set or that you are
getting
> automated retrieval
>

... is set to Automatic

>
> Civileme
>

Thanks for your help.
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Re: [newbie] Re: I broke my desktop

2003-03-02 Thread Marc Oestreicher
On Sunday 02 March 2003 06:23 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
> >> I shut the machine off last night, started it back up this morning and
> >> everything worked great again. I guess that sometimes even Linux needs a
> >> restart
>
> If you use your system everyday then  DO NOT TURN OFF THE COMPUTER.
> Literally.  I have 10 computers (4 are my roomates, and this is half of the
> computers we own) that are on all the time, 24/7.  It might increase the
> electric bill about $20-30 BUT it beats dealing with computer problems all
> the time and spending $50+ a month on replacing hardware.  Also, the
> turning on and turn off everydaywould you like to be turned off and
> then turned on everyday?  Wait, i woudl but thats a different story
> Turned on, meaning...by the electro shocks like they use to survive people
> with in the ER???  Thats how the computer hardware feels.  The more you
> turn it off/on the more you wear the parts out.
>
> Rob

There has been much debate over the years about this subject and I have 
heard both sides of the debate.
  After working with electronics and mechanical equipment since a hell of a 
long time before the Personal Computer this is my 10 cents worth I am not 
saying I am right this is just my opinion. In a computer the MOBO and other 
cards are just more electronic stuff, more or less basic solid state 
electronics much like a TV,  radio  cordless phone ect.  These other devices 
get turned on and off all the time without harm. if the boards and power 
supply are of half way decent design turning power on and off a few times a 
day should not be a very big issue. Inrush current on startup may be of some 
concern on one hand but on the other hand most electronic components only 
have so much life expectancy in tens or hundreds of thousands of hours and 
eeventually they just sort of get used up espically if they are being used at 
nnear maximum ratings so on this point we have what is probably a even trade 
ooff.  Constant power on operation and turning off power when not in use can 
both have advantages. 

  I can see where expansion and contraction with heating and cooling can work 
chips and other connectors loose from their sockets but all this means is 
that every couple of years everything may needed to be reseated and it is 
also a good arguement for a extra cooling fan or 2 or even some of the more 
advanced cooling options but then again these are not a bad idea no matter if 
you leave power onn all the time or cycle it on and off. Heat is ALWAYS the 
enemy of electronic parts.
   Last is the really debatable issue and that is the Hard drive. I can see 
where there could be a LOT of shock load on startup going from 0-7200 rpm in 
a few seconds espically when parts are cold and contracted possibly causeing 
things to fit a bit tight on startup and I would guess that some designs deal 
with this issue better than others. But on the other hand what is worse a few 
seconds of shock load or thousands of hours of wear while the hdd is idleing 
along at 7200 rpm unused, To me it is a tough call to say witch does more 
harm.
  Here is a bit of a decideing factor for me anyway. I live in a area with 
FREQUENT power surges lightining strikes and even darn big spikes coming up 
the phone wires. If we should have a big storm at night while I am sleeping 
or other times when I am away I am not shure I want my machine running. Some 
of you folks in urban areas may not have a clue what a big issue this can be 
for some of us in rural areas.
  It is not uncommon to get a big enough spike after a lightining to blow the 
capactors and sometimes even arc accross motor windings in a well pump and 
this stuff is a hell of a lot more durable than the somewhat delicate 
electronics of a PC. And to tell you the truth I am not 100% shure a UPS is a 
cureall for these big spikes.
  And the last issue is so what in at the rate computers are changeing  5 to 
10 years from now all the machines we are useing today will be so obsolete
that they will have almost no value anyway so why worry about getting every 
last miniute of life from them anyway. If the parts are of decent design they 
should last at least 10 years with anything but hard abuse. Any other 
electronic device should afterall.

Just my $10  worth, inflation after all

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Re: [newbie] tar questions, ta

2003-03-02 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 02 March 2003 02:16 pm, Michael Adams wrote:
> What number of 1k blocks will fit on a 1.44Mb DOS floppy? (I dont know
> where to read the available space. I can see usage with 'df' or in konq,
> but not free space.)

1440 I guess
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Re: [newbie] ECS K7S6A motherboard problem with NIC

2003-03-02 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Monday 03 March 2003 02:47 am, Jean-Pierre Real wrote:


>
> Do I waste my time with this board and should I consider
> getting another one?
> What else could I do to have the NIC having his own irq
> JP


If you consider another mainboard, here are some news :
A week ago I bought a Chaintech 7VJL, and you know what ?

IT COMES WITH A FULL LINUX  (on CD) !

That's the first time I saw a MB with linux bundled. It's a 
distro called *Thiz Linux* and resembles RedHat. I wiped it 
and installed MDK 9.0 in less then 20 minutes. Works like a 
charm. Information can be found here :

http://www.chaintechusa.com/eng/products/SOCKA/7vjl.asp

Good luck.

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RE: [newbie] Upgrading GTK+

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> Any comments on my original query?
>> I ask because, on my KMail at least, the thread has been
>> hijacked by another
>> subject... or two.
>>
>> Thanks, and sorry to eat bandwidth it it isn't necessary.
>>
>> On Sunday 02 Mar 2003 10:08 am, Richard Urwin wrote:
>> > I was trying to install the latest sources of Glade, and found that it
>> > needed a newer version of GTK+ v2 than the mdk9.0 default
>> install provides.
>> > This involves compiling glib, atk, pango and gtk+. I can compile and
>> > install glib, but one of the others detects that I have two
>> copies of glib
>> > installed and refuses to continue.
>> >
>> > If I try to uninstall GTK+ v2 dpmdrake tells me
>> (understandably) that it
>> > will have to uninstall a huge number of applications.
>> >
>> > I am sure there is a simple way to do this, but in this case
>> learning by
>> > trial and error is likely to involve trashing a lot of functionality.
>> >
>> > So - How do I upgrade a shared library under the noses of
>> dozens of apps
>> > that are dependent on it? And what is this likely to do to rpmdrake's
>> > database?

Thoughts:
why would you need to recompile anything enless its not in RPM form.  If you
redo your glib and glibc your kinda fucked.  Everything on your system
requires the version that you have installed b/c they are compiled against
that version.
2 versions of glib installed is b/c one is in source form and one is in rpm
form.   You kinda screwed yourself.
If you uninstall any window widget you will be uninstalling 90% of your GUI.
You update a shared library by updating it via rpm's.  It will test first if
it can be updated and tell you any issues.  Use the rpm -Uvh --test
rpm-filename.rpm" first.

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Re: [newbie] First connection w/ 9.1rc1

2003-03-02 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 02 March 2003 02:06 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> Ok!, I am on the LAN and connected to the internet with a BioStar M7VIG
> Pro motherboard and a duron 750mhz processor. The onboard NIC works, The
> onboard video works, the onboard sound has no driver. It is a via chip
> using the ac97 codec and reports no driver available.  I could not get a
> internet connection through the rc1 KDE setup so switched to gnome and
> am able to connect. Can't figure that out. I will look at the sys logs
> and see if I can tell what changed. I was also getting a comp shut down
> when the screensaver goes blank. Anyone know what that might be? I
> changed out my cpu fan and made sure it is running so will have to see
> if that solves the problem, otherwise could it be bios or the APIC
> thing? Testing will go on with rc2 we hope.
>
> --
> Dennis M. linux user #180842

I have a M7VKQ that has the via KLE133 chipset and the sound is autodetected 
and set up.  Are you sure it is enabled in BIOS?  What is the specific VIA 
chipset?   if you don't know, post the output from "lspci -v" as root.
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Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW

2003-03-02 Thread David E. Fox
> After all that, it wanted to make a compressed copy of my hda1 partition on=
> =20
> hda6.  Which copy, I would then have to burn to CD, manually.  This is=20

Agredd - why compress it into another partition? Is your hda1 larger
than a CD's capacity?

I have a rather large /home (5 gb partition) obviously I would have to 
back it up on a number of CDs. Currently I use tapes, and all I do is
tar -cvMf /dev/st0 /home, for instance.

CD's have their own separate issues and you'd have to divvy up the 
partition into a number of cd-sized items first and then burn each 
in succession. I don't think you can just tar right through to the
device - but then I don't have a CD burner. 

I don't think compression in backups is such a good idea. If there are 
media problems a bad spot could hose most of the backup.

> to sleep at night so the backups can complete.

That's the nice thing about using cron, schedule the backup for 3am,
and you have a backed up machine in the morning. Of course, the backup
could take longer, and having your machine wake you up to change media 
self-defeats automating the backup.

> Harv

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RE: [newbie] Worried

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> I haven't booted in 4 months. 

And this is even AFTER system/software updates.

>> I don't think boot or load time is a fair comparison. 

S true.  Again look at the # of times we boot in 4 months.


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[newbie] tar questions, ta

2003-03-02 Thread Michael Adams
1. I backed up an old system and i made the mistake of using absolute paths. 
I now want to extract from this tar ball into my newer system. I want to 
extract individual files and want to place them in an 'extraction' directory. 
Can i do it? How? (if i get it wrong i could write over existing files)

2. Speaking Volumes:-)
What number of 1k blocks will fit on a 1.44Mb DOS floppy? (I dont know where 
to read the available space. I can see usage with 'df' or in konq, but not 
free space.)

Do you create the volumed tarball direct to floppy's or on the hard drive 
first?

What number of blocks would fit on a UDP? formatted CD-RW disk? 

tar
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[newbie] First connection w/ 9.1rc1

2003-03-02 Thread Dennis Myers
Ok!, I am on the LAN and connected to the internet with a BioStar M7VIG
Pro motherboard and a duron 750mhz processor. The onboard NIC works, The
onboard video works, the onboard sound has no driver. It is a via chip
using the ac97 codec and reports no driver available.  I could not get a
internet connection through the rc1 KDE setup so switched to gnome and
am able to connect. Can't figure that out. I will look at the sys logs
and see if I can tell what changed. I was also getting a comp shut down
when the screensaver goes blank. Anyone know what that might be? I
changed out my cpu fan and made sure it is running so will have to see
if that solves the problem, otherwise could it be bios or the APIC
thing? Testing will go on with rc2 we hope. 

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Re: [newbie] Upgrading GTK+

2003-03-02 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:30:24 +
Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Any comments on my original query?
> I ask because, on my KMail at least, the thread has been hijacked by
> another subject... or two.

The 2 are not natively compatible.
If you upgrade to GTK2++ then none of your current apps which require
GTK++ will work.


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Re: [newbie] C header files

2003-03-02 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 02 March 2003 01:45 pm, David E. Fox wrote:
> > Argument "gcc (GCC) 3" isn't numeric in numeric ge (>=3D) at=20
> > /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl line 1476,  line 1.
> > What is the location of the directory of C header files that match
> > your=20 running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]=20
>
> Looks like you forgot to install the kernel-headers rpm.

More likely kernel-sources

> > your=20 running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]=20
  ^


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Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW

2003-03-02 Thread David E. Fox

> physical disaster (fire, flood, massive power spike, al-Qaeda attack, 
> Avril Lavigne video) can wipe it out along with the rest.  Otherwise 

Your insurance carrier regards Avril Levigne videos as acts of God too
?

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RE: [newbie] ECS K7S6A motherboard problem with NIC

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> I spent now so much time on trying to have this board to work that I'm
>> at the point of giving up.
>> First a little bit of back ground, I installed mandrake 9.0 in my box:
>> ECS K7S6A
>> Athlon xp 1800
>> 256 MB ram
>> NIC 3com 905 TX

Personally i will not buy ESC b/c they have jumpers to screw with.  I have
not built a computer myself unless it is jumperless b/c of these types of
issues, plus there is more control of certain devices.

>> and everything was working except the NIC. I emailed the newbie mailing
>> list to have some help (which was greatly appreciate by the way) and
>> after trying different setting it still doesn't work. I am fairly sure
>> that it's a motherboard problem because I tried different NICs without
>> any success and my 3com works on another PC running mandrake 9.0.

First off, what is the NIC sharing an IRQ with?  That makes a huge
difference.  Even though NIC's can NOT share IRQ's period.  I have seen this
and be the cause of so many things when i worked at Dell Server Support,
Linux and Windows.
You can also tell the kernel to give the NIC a certain IRQ if neededin
/etc/modules.conf on the ethx line just put "irq=X"...X being the IRQ you
want it to have.

>> I tried to install with USB,serial and parallel ports, soundcard disable
>> to free a maximum of IRQ, tried different PC slots and none of that has
>> worked.

Did you atleast disable serial and parrallel ports and all things NOT needed
first?

>> Do I waste my time with this board and should I consider getting another
>> one?

Personally i would buy an A-Bit or Asus, they are the best that i have
worked with.  Then again they are the only boards i have bought to build my
systems with.

>> What else could I do to have the NIC having his own irq to check that
>> this is no the problem?

Disable everything on the MB that you dont need, then go from there.

>> I saw from the hardware list that mandrakelabs has certified the k7S6A
>> under Mandrake-Linux prosuite Edition 8.2, could it be that Mandrake 9.0
>> is not working properly with my board?

I doubt 9.0 is the issue, then again i have heard of other issues not
working due to some differences...
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Re: [newbie] C header files

2003-03-02 Thread David E. Fox
> Argument "gcc (GCC) 3" isn't numeric in numeric ge (>=3D) at=20
> /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl line 1476,  line 1.
> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your=20
> running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]=20

Looks like you forgot to install the kernel-headers rpm.


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Re: [newbie] Worried

2003-03-02 Thread et
On Sunday 02 March 2003 12:53 pm, Jesse \"G-Tez\" Houston wrote:
> In my opinion - If you are going to say "Mandrake SUX" (Which it doesn't)
> back up your statement with clear and concise reasons then perhaps you may
> get an inteligent responce
> This is a forum for discussing problems and getting resolutions.
> Best of luck in the future
>
> On this note: Has anyone had installer issues with Dual CPU/via
> chipset/nvidia graphics cards? My workstation is being rather flaky.
>
> System Info:
> Dual 1.0 GHz p3
> Via 694XDP Chipset
> 1 Gig of ram
> NVidia GeForce 4 Ti4200 128megs
> Promose ATA 100 RAID Controller (FastTrack Lite)
>
> I remember reading something along the lines of why this wasn't working
> before but wasn't able to find it in my old emails Thanks for your help
> guys.

Well, Jess, I have a dual 1.0 gig p3, an Nvidia GeForce4 ti4600 128megs, only 
512 ram, but I think it is "smoKINg". with the amount of ram you have, you 
need the "enterprise" kernel, and it will enable SMP too
the only thing is I know nothing about how your promise controller will work.
maybe you could define flaky, a little better, and start it's own thread so it 
can be searched out in the archives a little easier.

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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> Asked like someone from a small state:-)

HAHA.  I live in the largest state there is (atleast in the continuous 48
states)...Texas.
Alaska is too far away from anything for me.
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RE: [newbie] /net and /misc

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> I think there is some confusion.
>> LinNeighborhood is nothing to do with autofs.
>>
>> If autofs were a dependency of LinNeighborhood, then you would
>> be warned when
>> you tried to 'urpme autofs'.  But it isn't... So you won't..
>>
>> If you want to know what dependencies a package has. Just look it up in
>> kpackage. It will also show you the files inside the package.

OR just go to command line and give it the ole command "rpm -qpR
package-name.rpm"
Easier for me to type than mess with the damn mouse.  Plus i type like 100
gwpm.
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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows Update security unveiled

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>>  This isn't meant as an insult ,so don't take it that way.
>> You sound like others I have "heard". Almost apologetic about
>> the fact that
>> some distros made a profit, or intend to.
>> As though they have somehow "soiled" the O.S. movement with money.
>> Profit is not a dirty word. It is a necessary thing in order to
>> pay wages,
>> build infrastructure, Do R & D, build a better company, Do advertising,
>> Secure a future, etc.
>> It wouldn't bother me a bit if Mandrake had $40 billion in the
>> bank, as it
>> were. Provided they earned it honestly, And not through
>> extortion, or other
>> nefarious methods. Or engage in M$ tactics to further themselves
>> among the
>> other distros.
>> If the above came, or comes to pass. I would drop Mandrake faster than I
>> dropped Microsoft.
>> Because Mandrake has an example of what not to do. It isn't
>> right of M$ to do
>> these things, Not because they are M$, But because this behaviour isn't
>> morally justifiable.

I totally agree with them making a profit or if they had billions in the
bank.
I like what they have put out and will continue to do so unless they do move
to those tactics...
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Re: [newbie] Upgrading GTK+

2003-03-02 Thread Richard Urwin
Any comments on my original query?
I ask because, on my KMail at least, the thread has been hijacked by another 
subject... or two.

Thanks, and sorry to eat bandwidth it it isn't necessary.

On Sunday 02 Mar 2003 10:08 am, Richard Urwin wrote:
> I was trying to install the latest sources of Glade, and found that it
> needed a newer version of GTK+ v2 than the mdk9.0 default install provides.
> This involves compiling glib, atk, pango and gtk+. I can compile and
> install glib, but one of the others detects that I have two copies of glib
> installed and refuses to continue.
>
> If I try to uninstall GTK+ v2 dpmdrake tells me (understandably) that it
> will have to uninstall a huge number of applications.
>
> I am sure there is a simple way to do this, but in this case learning by
> trial and error is likely to involve trashing a lot of functionality.
>
> So - How do I upgrade a shared library under the noses of dozens of apps
> that are dependent on it? And what is this likely to do to rpmdrake's
> database?

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RE: [newbie] IPTABLES rules for Direct Connect ?

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> shorewall has taken a bashing on this list,
>> with many suggesting alternatives,
>> eg gshield, guarddog, firestarter, etc.
>>
>> i just wanna relate my own good experience.
>>
>> i was trying to configure my mdk 9.0 box to share
>> my internet connection with a small home network
>> consisting of 3 win9x pcs and 2 linux boxes.
>>
>> i first used the internet connection wizard in mcc,
>> which didn't work.
>>
>> went to www.shorewall.net, and the quickstart guide suggested
>> the two interface config.
>>
>> instead of using it wholesale, i compared the config files,
>> found a few differences, opened up the ports i needed,
>> restarted shorewall, and it worked.
>>
>> the entire process took me around 15 mins,
>> included reading the stuff at www.shorewall.net.
>>
>> i think the essential diff was mdk 9.0 tried to
>> 3 zones in their shorewall config, while the two
>> interface version of the quickstart guide used 2 zones.
>> (if you dun understand what i'm saying,
>> just spend a couple of mins with www.shorewall.net)
>>
>> i'm no expert, and i'm sure the mdk developers had
>> a good reason to do what they did, but this setup worked
>> easily for me.
>>
>> others trying to configure shorewall can also search
>> the archives for a couple of extremely well written


I do not doubt that Shorewall can run nicely once configured properly.  I
was meaning that my experiences with it (like most) are terrible.
Most of my experiences with any firewall configurator sucks.  Thats why i
say go down to learning the actual rules and ways of iptables since it is
directly in charge of it...not any of the GUI configurators.
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RE: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> When you ping by name your machine first has to convert the name
>> to numbers.
>> In your case that step is failing.
>>
>> Check your DNS server setting.

Or just edit /etc/hosts.  Lots quicker and is the first place that is
checked for name->IP conversion.
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Re: [newbie] Worried

2003-03-02 Thread David E. Fox
> Now before I get flamed let me explain. I run a small 500mhz Athlon with
> 64mg memory but for speed and effeiciency XP is by far the fastest.

Hmm. On the other hand, XP is the desktop and everything else. There's
no real way (to my knowledge) to boot XP with a minimal environment as
there is with Linux where you have the option not to run X and/or a
number of window managers and desktop environments, some which use
less memory than others.

It's very possible that Mandrake 9.0 default install with KDE is less
responsive than XP on the same system, but so what? KDE is a memory
hog, and 64 megs of RAM is barely enough. Try Windowmaker or Afterstep
on that machine and you'll get a snappier response, I'll bet.

> With XP I boot and hey-presto I'm logging in within seconds and after
> hey-presto my desktop has loaded and away I go.  However with Md9 I can make

I haven't booted in 4 months. 

> a brew before logging in and then drink it all and eat my biscuits while
> waiting for the desktop to finish loading (well not literally but you get

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Re: [newbie] ECS K7S6A motherboard problem with NIC

2003-03-02 Thread et
On Sunday 02 March 2003 08:47 pm, Jean-Pierre Real wrote:
> I spent now so much time on trying to have this board to work that I'm
> at the point of giving up.
> First a little bit of back ground, I installed mandrake 9.0 in my box:
> ECS K7S6A
> Athlon xp 1800
> 256 MB ram
> NIC 3com 905 TX
>
> and everything was working except the NIC. I emailed the newbie mailing
> list to have some help (which was greatly appreciate by the way) and
> after trying different setting it still doesn't work. I am fairly sure
> that it's a motherboard problem because I tried different NICs without
> any success and my 3com works on another PC running mandrake 9.0.
>
> I tried to install with USB,serial and parallel ports, soundcard disable
> to free a maximum of IRQ, tried different PC slots and none of that has
> worked.
>
> When I look in KDE>control centre information>irq my nic is not listed
> but if I look in KDE>control centre information> PCI the NIC is listed
> in the correct IRQ. Another thing, I don't know if it's normal but no
> matter what I do the NIC IRQ is always the same as another device.
>
> I searched the mailing list to see if somebody had any similar trouble
> and found some problems with that board but nothing that could help me.
>
> Do I waste my time with this board and should I consider getting another
> one?
> What else could I do to have the NIC having his own irq to check that
> this is no the problem?

put the nic in a different pci slot
>
> I saw from the hardware list that mandrakelabs has certified the k7S6A
> under Mandrake-Linux prosuite Edition 8.2, could it be that Mandrake 9.0
> is not working properly with my board?
>
> JP
if it works w/ 9.0 prosuite, it works with 9.0. 
by what standard are you using to say "the nic does not work"? no ping? no 
lights? what does (as root, without the quotes, in a text console) "ifconfig" 
say? what does "cat /proc/pci" and "cat /proc/interrupts" say?

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RE: [newbie] Re: I broke my desktop

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> I shut the machine off last night, started it back up this morning and
>> everything worked great again. I guess that sometimes even Linux needs a
>> restart

If you use your system everyday then  DO NOT TURN OFF THE COMPUTER.
Literally.  I have 10 computers (4 are my roomates, and this is half of the
computers we own) that are on all the time, 24/7.  It might increase the
electric bill about $20-30 BUT it beats dealing with computer problems all
the time and spending $50+ a month on replacing hardware.  Also, the turning
on and turn off everydaywould you like to be turned off and then turned
on everyday?  Wait, i woudl but thats a different story
Turned on, meaning...by the electro shocks like they use to survive people
with in the ER???  Thats how the computer hardware feels.  The more you turn
it off/on the more you wear the parts out.

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Re: [newbie] Hello How can i unzip my files upgrades in TAR?

2003-03-02 Thread Yoel P. Krigsman

On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 07:50, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 23:27, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
> > hello...
> > 
> > once again, how can I unzip a file that I can upgrade my system? 
> > 
> > its already in TAR and I am not sure how I should go ahead with? 
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > YPK
> > 
> 
> You should be able to double-click on them in your file manager and they
> SHOULD open up, or decompress, OR open up yet another program to allow
> you to do things to the program inside.


I was able to unzip it and put in a directory... Thanks


> TAR files generally have source files/source code within them and need
> to be "compiled" into true executable binaries...what did you download?


Trying to get my Palm Pilot to work with Avantgo conduit... I am not
able to get it to work at this time, I dont see any conduit for it. 

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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

2003-03-02 Thread et
On Sunday 02 March 2003 12:24 pm, james Mellema wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 14:17, Robert Wideman wrote:
> > >> I'll agree on that point. Too bad the bastard lives in Alaska. Else
> > >> I'd ask him to come on down here to Aussie for a tour...(g)
> >
> > Alaska? WTF is up there other than dry cold weather?
> > Rob
>
> Asked like someone from a small state:-) Alaska is like living in a post
> card on the frontier. Much of what has made mankind successful is here
> and thriving. It has more of everything and less bullshit people than
> any other place I have ever lived. (and a fair percentage of Mandrake
> users to boot.)
one of my friends that I grew up with in Miami Fla., decided after 3 fishing 
seasons that he wanted to stay, but was back in So. Fla the next year. When I 
asked why he swares it was because of all the "treehuggers that never had to 
fight fo their lunch money". 

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Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)

2003-03-02 Thread civileme
On Sunday 02 March 2003 06:37 am, Margot wrote:
> Hello All
>
> Had to step back from this problem for a while, for health reasons. Back
> now, and have got a bit further, but not much!
>
> Have abandoned eurobell as ISP, and gone with freeserve anytime. Have set
> it all up in MCC/kppp and Mozilla (thanks to John Richard Smith for
> freeserve screenshots), but still having problems.
>
> Subscribed to the Berlin news server via Win 98 machine, and next time I
> tried to connect via Linux machine the news.cis.dfn.de account
> automatically showed up in Mozilla - but when I tried to subscribe to
> newsgroups I got "Failed to connect to server news.cis.dfn.de". Seems to me
> that it HAS connected to the server - or how would Mozilla know that I had
> registered for that service - but for some reason it won't let me see the
> information that is coming from the server!
>
> When trying to receive email, I get "Failed to connect to server
> pop.freeserve.com". Attempted browsing gives me a message at the bottom of
> the browser screen "Resolving host www.google.co.uk" and a box in the
> middle of the browser saying "www.google.co.uk  could not be found. Please
> check the name and try again".
>
> By mistake the other day I forgot to set kppp running before trying
> Mozilla - and got the exact same error messages on mail, news and browse
> without even being connected to the internet!
>
> I have tried to ping, and got strange results - when I did ping
> www.yahoo.com I got "unknown host www.yahoo.com, but when I tried ping
> 66.218.71.83 (the numeric version of yahoo) I got "PING 66.218.71.83
> (66.218.71.83) from 217.134.91.169 : 56(84) bytes of data. I don't
> understand why it works by number but not by name.
>
> Can anyone help me further?
>
> Thanks
> Margot

Ummm

sounds like a cookie/nameserver problem (two problems with similar results)

First resolve the nameserver problem

Then take care of the cookies by re-registering for the services.

For the nameserver problem, let us see the output of a command line

1.  Open a terminal
2.  Type the command
3.  highlight the output with the mouse
4.  click on the email window and middle-click (or right and lefgt click at 
same time) to paste

The command is

$ cat /etc/resolv.conf

Also in kppp make sure you have some nameservers set or that you are getting 
automated retrieval

Here is my cat /etc/resolv.conf

[EMAIL PROTECTED] tester]$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
search civileme.net
nameserver 209.193.4.8
nameserver 209.193.4.7

# ppp temp entry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tester]$

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[newbie] Samba File Permissions

2003-03-02 Thread Jesse \"G-Tez\" Houston



Hi All,
 
I have a samba server running a few shares here and 
there, now I have a folder that is shared to everyone on my network (requiring a 
username/password)
This works great except for one teeny weeny little 
issue. Is there a way of setting the default permissions when a file is created 
ie lets say JoeUser uploads 'MySong.mp3' the permissions would of course be 
JoeUser:JoeUser rw-r--r-- I am looking for the files to be group (possibly 
world) writable. But I would like this to be transparent not requiring (my 
stupid roommate) users to have to log on to the server and chmod 
anything.
 
Thanks guys and gals.
 
 
Jesse "G-Tez" HoustonSoftimage XSI 201 
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RE: [newbie] Star Office Or OO.org can't save /wrong parameter

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> First, as root:
>> setup -net
>> Then hit setup again as user.

Also DL the latest updates from Sun for SO6.
http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/show.pl?target=patches/xprod-StarOffice&nav=
pub-patches
Is the site to DL the updates.

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[newbie] PortSentry2

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
>> as well as
>> using PortSentry2 for further monitoring.

I know this company that used to make Port Sentry is here in Austin TX.  The
company psionic.com.  Is it bought out by cisco now?  Thats all that the
website has on it.  Also the searches on google pull up mailing list items
and directs it to parts of psionic.com which also are redirected to cisco.
Where did you get PS2 from?  I knew that it was in development but didnt
know it was out yet (or was that the other software they made?).
Thanks
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re:[newbie]ARTICLE:Windows Security Update Revealed

2003-03-02 Thread civileme
Stephen thanks for the heads-up...

IN reality this is nothing new, just the continuation of a sad set of policies 
that no one seems to be aware of.

At one pre-linux time I was going to run a web site and I had NT 4.0 
Workstation and the Netscape Enterprise server.  Then in the blink of a 
Microsoft attorney's eye, I was illegal for more than 10 connections and "had 
to" purchase NT Server to do the same job which incidentally came "free" with 
IIS but crashed a lot on the Netscape Enterprise server.  "Had to"  That 
was my introduction to RH 4.0 and Apache.  I did not look back.  Yes I read 
the EULA and by clicking on the "I Agree" I had agreed to ex post facto 
changes.

In windows shipped from 3.0 all through 1999, there was an NSA key in the 
encryption authorization services.  Microsoft and NSA both denied having any 
agreement, and Microsoft stated that the tag "NSA" on that key was because it 
met some National Security Standards (which did not exist).  The upshot of 
that key is that the holder of it could download security software/spyware 
onto a windows computer without the user's being aware of it.  The key may 
still be there.  A third key was found which authorized cryptographic 
services, but no one ever identified what it was.  A program to change key2 
and to enable strong encryption was produced by cryptonym (www.cryptonym.com) 
which blew away export restrictions.

Microsoft Passport had a means to collect personal data and its use was 
misrepresented.  They signed some sort of consent order with a Federal agency 
about disclosure and some list member can easily research the particulars 
through google.

So is Microsoft lying to the public?  Is Microsoft spying on the public? If 
you use Windows, is it true that your computer, which you paid for, does not 
belong to you?  Yes.  It was true three years ago.  It was true six years 
ago, and it is still true.  

Moreover, the chicanery does not end there.  Do you have a retirement fund?  
FInd out how heavily they are invested with Microsoft Stock.  There are EIGHT 
BILLION shares out there for a company that takes in $25 billion a year not 
in profit but in revenue.  There is an unreported debt of Microsoft to its 
own employees which runs to the tune of about $55 billion in the form of 
stock options.  Retirement funds have invested heavily in Microsoft, which 
has been losing money (if you include the employee stock options) since 1996, 
and all they have to show for it is heavily watered stock which, if it ever 
hits true value, will make the Enron implosion look slow and gentle.  Check 
www.billparish.com to see the credibility of the source, then here to see the 
article http://www.portlandtribune.com/archview.cgi?id=9726

Microsoft is not a technical corporation.  It is a business founded on the 
prinnciples of greed and predation.  What else should one expect other than 
extralegal and criminal behavior whenever they think they can get away with 
it?  

And consider that they may have plundered _your_ retirement fund already.

Civileme


  

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Re: [newbie] ECS K7S6A motherboard problem with NIC

2003-03-02 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 02 March 2003 08:47 pm, Jean-Pierre Real wrote:
>
> I searched the mailing list to see if somebody had any similar trouble
> and found some problems with that board but nothing that could help me.
>
> Do I waste my time with this board and should I consider getting another
> one?
> What else could I do to have the NIC having his own irq to check that
> this is no the problem?
>
> I saw from the hardware list that mandrakelabs has certified the k7S6A
> under Mandrake-Linux prosuite Edition 8.2, could it be that Mandrake 9.0
> is not working properly with my board?
>
Did you try either booting the kernel with the noapic parameter or turning the 
APIC (not ACPI) off in the BIOS?
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Re: [newbie] Worried

2003-03-02 Thread Jesse \"G-Tez\" Houston
In my opinion - If you are going to say "Mandrake SUX" (Which it doesn't)
back up your statement with clear and concise reasons then perhaps you may
get an inteligent responce
This is a forum for discussing problems and getting resolutions.
Best of luck in the future

On this note: Has anyone had installer issues with Dual CPU/via
chipset/nvidia graphics cards? My workstation is being rather flaky.

System Info:
Dual 1.0 GHz p3
Via 694XDP Chipset
1 Gig of ram
NVidia GeForce 4 Ti4200 128megs
Promose ATA 100 RAID Controller (FastTrack Lite)

I remember reading something along the lines of why this wasn't working
before but wasn't able to find it in my old emails Thanks for your help
guys.

Jesse "G-Tez" Houston
Softimage XSI 201 Certified Instructor
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.gtez.com/

- Original Message -
From: "Andrew Scotchmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Worried


On Sunday 02 Mar 2003 3:31 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Sunday 02 March 2003 07:01 am, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
> > Now don't get me wrong I love linux and  have been with Mandrake since
> > v6.0 though I must say in my opinion v9.0 is not one of it's best,
> > perhaps, sorry, definately a bit hasty with this release!
>
> Well Andrew, I have a question for you:
>
> R U a Troll?
>
> I've seen this same message a couple of times now. In fact, as is "per
> normal" for this list, it received excellantly reasoned and constructed
> responses.

LOL  Something went wrong I think somewhere.

Sorry :)








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[newbie] ECS K7S6A motherboard problem with NIC

2003-03-02 Thread Jean-Pierre Real
I spent now so much time on trying to have this board to work that I'm
at the point of giving up. 
First a little bit of back ground, I installed mandrake 9.0 in my box:
ECS K7S6A
Athlon xp 1800
256 MB ram
NIC 3com 905 TX

and everything was working except the NIC. I emailed the newbie mailing
list to have some help (which was greatly appreciate by the way) and
after trying different setting it still doesn't work. I am fairly sure
that it's a motherboard problem because I tried different NICs without
any success and my 3com works on another PC running mandrake 9.0.

I tried to install with USB,serial and parallel ports, soundcard disable
to free a maximum of IRQ, tried different PC slots and none of that has
worked.

When I look in KDE>control centre information>irq my nic is not listed
but if I look in KDE>control centre information> PCI the NIC is listed
in the correct IRQ. Another thing, I don't know if it's normal but no
matter what I do the NIC IRQ is always the same as another device.

I searched the mailing list to see if somebody had any similar trouble
and found some problems with that board but nothing that could help me.

Do I waste my time with this board and should I consider getting another
one?
What else could I do to have the NIC having his own irq to check that
this is no the problem?

I saw from the hardware list that mandrakelabs has certified the k7S6A
under Mandrake-Linux prosuite Edition 8.2, could it be that Mandrake 9.0
is not working properly with my board?

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Re: [newbie] basic concept question

2003-03-02 Thread civileme
On Friday 28 February 2003 04:28 am, Merlin Zener wrote:
> G'day,
>
> I've just begun reading man:wine 
> and as far as I can see the idea is to run windoze programs
> within Mandrake. Never mind the fact that I can't make it
> start Excel yet [I'll continue looking for a while yet before
> asking here], I thought I'd ask for the overview that perhaps
> I'm missing...
> I apologise if this is a really stupid question, but like several
> things when confronted with a totally new OS, if you're starting
> off with the wrong assumptions you'll just waste a lot of time.
>
> Can you run a windoze session *in* Linux?
> Like: you can run a DOS session in a window in windoze, and I've
> heard you can emulate a PC on a Mac.
> If so, can you make the two "virtual machines" talk to each other?
> For example, Mandrake can't see files on the NTFS partition
> which Win2K is on, but if I had Windows running I could network
> across to it from Mandrake, just like it was on my laptop?
>
> Come to think of it, that's the next thing I'll try - to get
> Mandrake and the laptop [Win2K, again] talking to each other...
>
> TIA, again ;)
>
> --
> Merlin Zener
> piano and synthesizer
> Pattaya, Thailand.
> ---
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> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 25/02/2003

There are many emulators and wine is only one of them.

In order to run most of Microsoft Office you have to emulate not only dlls 
(dynamically linked libraries) and Windows APIs (Application Program 
Interfaces) but also the DIRECT calls to the windows kernel that Microsoft 
put into the office package to give it the competitive edge over other word 
processors and spreadsheets (And incidentally opened superhighways for 
exploits to travel on).  Win4Lin will run windows Apps using an on-board 
windows system that you have on your computer.  VMWare will run quite a few 
OSes on your machine from a different OS.  Crossover Office will run MSOffice 
Apps.  None of these are free and they often have to be changed when the 
kernel changes.

But with OpenOffice already available and free on Linux, there is no burning 
need to run Excel or Word.  There is an NTFS read-only module (writing is 
still experimental cause Windows keeps the NTFS format secret and changes it 
with newer systems (NT 4.0 had one format, NT 5.0 (win2K) had a differnt and 
incompatible format, and NT 5.1 (XP) has yet another incompatible format).

So it is unnecessary to run an emulator to read NTFS files, and it is 
unnecessary to run an emulator to read Office files with the exception of the 
greeting-card maker (Publisher).

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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

2003-03-02 Thread james Mellema
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 14:17, Robert Wideman wrote:
> >> I'll agree on that point. Too bad the bastard lives in Alaska. Else I'd
> >> ask him to come on down here to Aussie for a tour...(g)
> 
> Alaska? WTF is up there other than dry cold weather?
> Rob

Asked like someone from a small state:-) Alaska is like living in a post
card on the frontier. Much of what has made mankind successful is here
and thriving. It has more of everything and less bullshit people than
any other place I have ever lived. (and a fair percentage of Mandrake
users to boot.)
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Re: [newbie] /net and /misc

2003-03-02 Thread Derek Jennings
I think there is some confusion.
LinNeighborhood is nothing to do with autofs.

If autofs were a dependency of LinNeighborhood, then you would be warned when 
you tried to 'urpme autofs'.  But it isn't... So you won't..

If you want to know what dependencies a package has. Just look it up in 
kpackage. It will also show you the files inside the package.

derek



On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:36 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote:
> A good recommendation.  Short of uninstalling and breaking LinNeighborhood
> (if it should happen) is there a quick way to determine whether
> LinNeighborhood requires or creates and then uses the files?
> Paul
>
> On Saturday 01 March 2003 23:04, Derek Jennings wrote:
> > On Friday 28 Feb 2003 9:17 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote:
> > > On Friday 28 February 2003 15:25, et wrote:
> > > > On Friday 28 February 2003 10:09 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > > > > On Friday 28 February 2003 01:45 am, Paul Kaplan wrote:
> > > > > > Anyone know what /net and /misc are?  They automount under m9,
> > > > > > are always busy and can't be unmounted.  As a result I can't do a
> > > > > > clean shutdown. How can I remidy?
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul, can you cd to these directories and do a "ls" in console
> > > > > mode? Might show what is in them, cause my system does not have
> > > > > either directory.
> > > >
> > > > if I remember correctly (that might be a first) these are mount
> > > > points created by some wild program (like linneighborhood or gnomba
> > > > for the /net) and have a "hard" mount point in the script that
> > > > creates them, maybe posting fstab and mtab might help.
> > >
> > > Dennis,
> > > ls /misc and ls /net return nothing
> > >
> > > et,
> > > From /etc/mtab:
> > > automount(pid1561) /misc autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=1561,minproto=2,maxproto=4
> > > 0 0 automount(pid1574) /net autofs
> > > rw,fd=5,pgrp=1574,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0
> > >
> > > I use linneigborhood to work to access a LAN
> > >
> > > Derek,
> > > What configuration file am I looking for w/ autofs?
> >
> > As I said these are the mount points for autofs
> > The configuration files are /etc/auto.master  /etc/auto.net and
> > /etc/auto.misc If you do not know why you have autofs installed, then you
> > almost certainly do not need it
> > urpme autofs  will get rid of it.
> >
> > derek

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Re: [newbie] IPTABLES rules for Direct Connect ?

2003-03-02 Thread stormjumper
shorewall has taken a bashing on this list,
with many suggesting alternatives,
eg gshield, guarddog, firestarter, etc.

i just wanna relate my own good experience.

i was trying to configure my mdk 9.0 box to share
my internet connection with a small home network
consisting of 3 win9x pcs and 2 linux boxes.

i first used the internet connection wizard in mcc,
which didn't work.

went to www.shorewall.net, and the quickstart guide suggested
the two interface config.

instead of using it wholesale, i compared the config files,
found a few differences, opened up the ports i needed,
restarted shorewall, and it worked.

the entire process took me around 15 mins,
included reading the stuff at www.shorewall.net.

i think the essential diff was mdk 9.0 tried to
3 zones in their shorewall config, while the two
interface version of the quickstart guide used 2 zones.
(if you dun understand what i'm saying,
just spend a couple of mins with www.shorewall.net)

i'm no expert, and i'm sure the mdk developers had
a good reason to do what they did, but this setup worked
easily for me.

others trying to configure shorewall can also search
the archives for a couple of extremely well written
Derek Jennings posts in Nov 2002.
- Original Message -
From: Robert Wideman
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 17:59
Subject: RE: [newbie] IPTABLES rules for Direct Connect ?


Actually Stephen is correct.  Of all the iptables GUI or configurator
applications Shorewall was the worst.  It took me 30 mins after the first
time of installing MDK9 was i able to figure out what the hell was going on
with my box...not able to get out of the local box.  I remember that
Shorewall was a firewall using IP Tables.  I listed the current rules of
iptables "iptables -L" and it listed a crap load of them by default from
shorewall.  I disabled shorewall and i was able to connect just normal.
So on your understanding of what Stephen stated that it was "dont use linux"
is totally misunderstood.  Reread his message.  It stated "dont use
shorewall"did it say anything about dont use "linux"...NO IT DID
NOT.
You asked what the solution washe simply stated "dont use shorewall".

I agree with Stephen.  Dont use Shorewallnot linux just shorewall.

Rob




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bela Markus
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 2:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] IPTABLES rules for Direct Connect ?


Hi Stephen,

you advice is not very constructive. Sounds like: dont use LINUX, do not use
LINUX, etc.

Doesn't matter is it SHOREWALL or else, the key is the IPTABLES, oll others
just cosmetics. Now I see, original subject was misleading. The right would
be " IPTABLES rules for Direct Connect".

Best regards... Bela


Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 18:11, Bela Markus wrote:

  Hi,

I spent nights without any success to configure SHOREWALL in 9.0 to run
Direct Connect (DC++ exactly) to run in active mode.

Is there a solution out there?

Regards... Bela, HA5DI


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Re: [newbie] Star Office Or OO.org can't save /wrong parameter

2003-03-02 Thread Vahur Lokk
Ühel kenal päeval (pühapäev, 2. märts 2003 06:34) kirjutas Bob Read:
> I've been thru the books and searched back posts but
> no help.  I can't seem to get Star Office or OO.org
> installed properly!  Every time I try to save a
> file I get a message like "can't save.  Program
> started under wrong parameter."
>
> Could someone steer me to some info on how to
> initialize SO/OO for an installation with several
> users on one machine, each using their own space?
> I've just installed LM9.0 on a new machine with several
> users, but haven't initiallized them yet.  I'd really
> like to get it right this time.
>
> Much Thanks,
>
> Bob

First, as root:
setup -net
Then hit setup again as user. 

Wahur

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Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)

2003-03-02 Thread Richard Urwin
On Sunday 02 Mar 2003 3:37 pm, Margot wrote:
> I have tried to ping, and got strange results - when I did ping
> www.yahoo.com I got "unknown host www.yahoo.com, but when I tried ping
> 66.218.71.83 (the numeric version of yahoo) I got "PING 66.218.71.83
> (66.218.71.83) from 217.134.91.169 : 56(84) bytes of data. I don't
> understand why it works by number but not by name.

When you ping by name your machine first has to convert the name to numbers. 
In your case that step is failing.

Check your DNS server setting.
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[newbie] C header files

2003-03-02 Thread Andrew Scotchmer
Hi all

Much conventional question this time (sorry about the last one I really didn't 
mean to offend or annoy).

Anyway I'm trying to install VMware 3.1 and after installation I get this 
message when trying to run:

VMware Workstation Error:
VMware Workstation is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured 
for your running kernel.  To (re-)configure it, your system administrator 
must find and run "vmware-config.pl".

After running vmware-config.pl  I get this message:

None of VMware Workstation's pre-built vmmon modules is suitable for your 
running kernel.  Do you want this script to try to build the vmmon module for 
your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)?

After choosing yes I receive another message:

Argument "gcc (GCC) 3" isn't numeric in numeric ge (>=) at 
/usr/bin/vmware-config.pl line 1476,  line 1.
What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your 
running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 

Where are these files please they are not in the directory it suggested  
[/usr/src/linux/include].  I've tried allsorts but with no luck.

Thanks in advance
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Re: [newbie] Worried

2003-03-02 Thread Andrew Scotchmer
On Sunday 02 Mar 2003 3:31 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Sunday 02 March 2003 07:01 am, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
> > Now don't get me wrong I love linux and  have been with Mandrake since
> > v6.0 though I must say in my opinion v9.0 is not one of it's best,
> > perhaps, sorry, definately a bit hasty with this release!
>
> Well Andrew, I have a question for you:
>
> R U a Troll?
>
> I've seen this same message a couple of times now. In fact, as is "per
> normal" for this list, it received excellantly reasoned and constructed
> responses.

LOL  Something went wrong I think somewhere.

Sorry :)

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[newbie] libsmbclient info

2003-03-02 Thread Bill Winegarden
Hi,

I am trying to access a windows authenticated site to retrieve some 
files. I have no problem when using IE but I get this error on any linux 
browser.

HTTP 401.3 - Access denied by ACL on resource
Internet Information Services

I did a google search and found others with the same problem. A possible 
solution offered was the libsmbclient but I cannot find any documentation on 
it at all.

Does anyone else need to access files via http? Is there another method? The 
network admin that is serving the files has no use for linux so he will not 
change anything on his end.

I just hate booting to windows to retrieve this info, then back to linux for 
everything else.

Thanks and regards,
Bill W.

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Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)

2003-03-02 Thread et
what this is is either the "default gateway" or the DNS is wrongly configured.

On Sunday 02 March 2003 10:37 am, Margot wrote:
> Hello All
>
> Had to step back from this problem for a while, for health reasons. Back
> now, and have got a bit further, but not much!
>
> Have abandoned eurobell as ISP, and gone with freeserve anytime. Have set
> it all up in MCC/kppp and Mozilla (thanks to John Richard Smith for
> freeserve screenshots), but still having problems.
>
> Subscribed to the Berlin news server via Win 98 machine, and next time I
> tried to connect via Linux machine the news.cis.dfn.de account
> automatically showed up in Mozilla - but when I tried to subscribe to
> newsgroups I got "Failed to connect to server news.cis.dfn.de". Seems to me
> that it HAS connected to the server - or how would Mozilla know that I had
> registered for that service - but for some reason it won't let me see the
> information that is coming from the server!
>
> When trying to receive email, I get "Failed to connect to server
> pop.freeserve.com". Attempted browsing gives me a message at the bottom of
> the browser screen "Resolving host www.google.co.uk" and a box in the
> middle of the browser saying "www.google.co.uk  could not be found. Please
> check the name and try again".
>
> By mistake the other day I forgot to set kppp running before trying
> Mozilla - and got the exact same error messages on mail, news and browse
> without even being connected to the internet!
>
> I have tried to ping, and got strange results - when I did ping
> www.yahoo.com I got "unknown host www.yahoo.com, but when I tried ping
> 66.218.71.83 (the numeric version of yahoo) I got "PING 66.218.71.83
> (66.218.71.83) from 217.134.91.169 : 56(84) bytes of data. I don't
> understand why it works by number but not by name.
>
> Can anyone help me further?
>
> Thanks
> Margot


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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows Update security unveiled

2003-03-02 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 02 Mar 2003 3:27 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Sunday 02 March 2003 09:17 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > I wonder if the Chinese - whom Big Bad Bill is going to visit, fully
> > > understand the gist of security issues by signing on the dotted line...
> >
> > I would guess so.  There are some very savvy people out there.
> >
> > Anne
>
> If they don't know, tell'em to talk to the Germans - they dropped Windows
> because they said that Microsoft had it setup to report stuff on their
> military back to our military.

In Beijjing buses run around with linux slogans on the side.  There is much 
support for it there, so I don't expect that Bill will get any more than they 
actually want to give - and that won't be much.

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Re: [newbie] Re: I broke my desktop

2003-03-02 Thread et
On Saturday 01 March 2003 10:38 am, Marc Oestreicher wrote:
>   Problem solved
>
> I shut the machine off last night, started it back up this morning and
> everything worked great again. I guess that sometimes even Linux needs a
> restart
or at least to restart some service after configuring... that you did not 
restart manually, but could have if bringing down the machine would have cost 
a lot of money. 

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Re: [newbie] xinerama program on RPMS

2003-03-02 Thread John Richard Smith
Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:

Hello...

I am starting to play more with the M9.0 and I am enjoying every
momement of it, 

I am asking if anyohne can show me where i can get this xinerama RPMS so
I can get it downloaded? I am not able to find it on those M9.0 cd's. 

Thanks!

YPK

 

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=22788&release_id=90641

Is this any help

John

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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows Update security unveiled

2003-03-02 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday March 2 2003 06:21 am, Dennis & Sue wrote:
> > I wonder if the Chinese - whom Big Bad Bill is going to visit,
> > fully understand the gist of security issues by signing on the
> > dotted line...
>
> I'm sure they will have a special site just to themselves. Where M$
> "promises" not to spy on them. And I'm sure M$ won't. ( Not right
> away anyways, Gotta lull them into a false sense of security first
> ).

  Speaking of security. During the DoJ/M$ trial(s), the States 
wanted M$ to release Windows source.  M$ argued that to do so would 
compromise National Security. So it's either ironic, or criminal that 
they're now furnishing it to the Chinese and some other governments.
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Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)

2003-03-02 Thread Margot
Hello All

Had to step back from this problem for a while, for health reasons. Back
now, and have got a bit further, but not much!

Have abandoned eurobell as ISP, and gone with freeserve anytime. Have set it
all up in MCC/kppp and Mozilla (thanks to John Richard Smith for freeserve
screenshots), but still having problems.

Subscribed to the Berlin news server via Win 98 machine, and next time I
tried to connect via Linux machine the news.cis.dfn.de account automatically
showed up in Mozilla - but when I tried to subscribe to newsgroups I got
"Failed to connect to server news.cis.dfn.de". Seems to me that it HAS
connected to the server - or how would Mozilla know that I had registered
for that service - but for some reason it won't let me see the information
that is coming from the server!

When trying to receive email, I get "Failed to connect to server
pop.freeserve.com". Attempted browsing gives me a message at the bottom of
the browser screen "Resolving host www.google.co.uk" and a box in the middle
of the browser saying "www.google.co.uk  could not be found. Please check
the name and try again".

By mistake the other day I forgot to set kppp running before trying
Mozilla - and got the exact same error messages on mail, news and browse
without even being connected to the internet!

I have tried to ping, and got strange results - when I did ping
www.yahoo.com I got "unknown host www.yahoo.com, but when I tried ping
66.218.71.83 (the numeric version of yahoo) I got "PING 66.218.71.83
(66.218.71.83) from 217.134.91.169 : 56(84) bytes of data. I don't
understand why it works by number but not by name.

Can anyone help me further?

Thanks
Margot



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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows Update security unveiled

2003-03-02 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 02 March 2003 10:27 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:

> If they don't know, tell'em to talk to the Germans - they dropped Windows
> because they said that Microsoft had it setup to report stuff on their
> military back to our military.

Sorry, forgot to add the link! :-)

http://www.aaxnet.com/news/M010318.html

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[newbie] Re: I broke my desktop

2003-03-02 Thread Marc Oestreicher
  Problem solved

I shut the machine off last night, started it back up this morning and 
everything worked great again. I guess that sometimes even Linux needs a 
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Re: [newbie] Worried

2003-03-02 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 02 March 2003 07:01 am, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
> Now don't get me wrong I love linux and  have been with Mandrake since v6.0
> though I must say in my opinion v9.0 is not one of it's best, perhaps,
> sorry, definately a bit hasty with this release!

Well Andrew, I have a question for you:

R U a Troll?

I've seen this same message a couple of times now. In fact, as is "per normal" 
for this list, it received excellantly reasoned and constructed responses.  

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-02 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 02 March 2003 09:06 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> You're probably right about the differences in markets.  My HP 930C
> (Hey, maybe the "C" stands for Chipped) is sitting in a box right now
> because it's too much of a hassle to deal with the cartridges.  The HP
> carts are too expensive and the recycled carts are not all that
> reliable.  I tried refilling my own carts, but that's also a hassle.
> The book that came with the refill inks was were I got the idea for
> rotating three cartridges.
>
> Rich

Hmm, probably wrong but I always thought the "C" was for color...

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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows Update security unveiled

2003-03-02 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 02 March 2003 09:17 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

> > I wonder if the Chinese - whom Big Bad Bill is going to visit, fully
> > understand the gist of security issues by signing on the dotted line...
>
> I would guess so.  There are some very savvy people out there.
>
> Anne

If they don't know, tell'em to talk to the Germans - they dropped Windows 
because they said that Microsoft had it setup to report stuff on their 
military back to our military. 

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