RE: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
Isn't it ironic.. that Suns Java was and is being compromised by a clone called C# and .NET, and yet here they are teaming up with SCO and M$ to get some solaris sales from IBM's AIX/Linux market.. And if SCO senses at some stage that Solaris is taking sales from SCO unix, no doubt they will find some legal agenda to go after Sun and it all starts again. Could M$ really ask for anything more?? my god, they are a pack of sharks arn't they... Goes to prove to me that the community development model of OSS is really only one that is based on functionality not dollars and marketing.. Sad but true I think. My theory is that this will end up being beneficial for Linux.. think about it, if this case is lost by SCO.. and enough proof can be made that the unix internals have been floating around the net for too long to be claimed as "proprientry" then thats the end of it for one and all.. and future claims will be laughed off... regards Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JoeHill Sent: Sunday, 22 June 2003 6:49 AM To: Mandrake Newbs Subject: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-1018669.html It's official, Sun is right in there with MS and SCO. They even have an ad campaign telling "nervous" IBM customers that they can switch to Solaris because SCO is not after Sun. Well, fsck you too Sun. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?
On Sunday 22 June 2003 01:28 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > Mike: > You sound a bit confused about drive terminology. definetly :) Your board has > two IDE slots (or channels). One is the primary, the other is the > secondary. Each channel can handle both a master and slave drive. The drive > jumpers determine whether a drive is to be the master or slave, but have > nothing to do whether it is on the primary or secondary channel. > > It sounds as if your current setup has both drives on the primary channel > with the HD as master and the CDRW as slave. My advice would be to leave > the old HD as the primary master. Why confuse Windows more than it already > is? i'm going to have to open the box up to be fully sure what is connected where. i remember there's 3 slots on my motherboard, but only 2 are being used. i believe there was a problem with the 3rd slot. > > You could install the new drive on the secondary channel and leave it > jumpered as master; this arrangement is least apt to confuse Windows. > However, my choice is to install the new drive on the primary channel as > slave, and move the CDRW to the secondary channel as master. i'll try both arrangements and see what works. > > Check your BIOS settings that all of the IDE drives are set to Auto Detect > (or whatever) -- and also that the secondary channel has not been turned > off. > > I'll leave it to others to discuss partitioning schemes (it's been an > active topic lately), but remember that you don't have to partition the > whole damn 100 GB now. True, because from what i've seen, it's easy to partition off a section for linux, but a bit more work to give it back to windows. i can always add more for linux later on. kinda jumping the gun i guess. it's going to be an interesting week, but only the hard drive is going to be a struggle to set up. the new moniter is supposed to be here thursday (plug and play) and more ram (to boost the system to 768MB). those 2 are easy, i can handle those no problem. for now i guess i'll do the smart thingjust get the 100GB drive in and get it working properly, then worry about moving linux and partitioning later. hey, i got a new toy and i wanna play.isn't that just human nature? :) thanks! > -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tux pics...
On Saturday 21 June 2003 11:20 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > In another thread (I think it was Femme!) posted some Tux gaming pics 'n > stuff. I found a couple I had lying around the old HD, if anyone wants me > to send them offlist. Of course, many of you probably already have these. > > One is from Penguin Computing (my fav!) > > One is Tux with a joystick > > One is Tux with a keyboard > > Just a thought... :-) Ron: Here's a couple of hundred more -- some of which are antimated: http://johngalt.crosswinds.net/tux.htm -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?
On Saturday 21 June 2003 10:28 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > > > 20GB hard drive i currently have - all for windows > > 100GB hard drive - 80GB for mandrake, 20GB for windows (that's my current > > plan, might go 60 linux 40 windows) > > That sounds a little excessive to me. Good call, now that you mentioned it. i do plan on sharing info between windows and linux, just don't plan on using windows much at all. wanted to leave space for installing new programs to linux, but yeah, i'm probably leaving too much space for it, as i only have 5GB space for windows and windows based programs to run in and i have 3GB free on that partition still. > > 80Gb for Mandrake? I wouldn't, and my space needs a little extra room. But > maybe 20Gb, if you need the temp space for video or sound editing. Do plan on doing video editing. i'll get to that in a minute... > > You never told us much about how you use your computer, so its hard to help > too specifically. > running win98se and mandrake 9.1. planned use for the computer. school work music e-mail surfing video downloading and editing occasional gaming (not sure if that'll be done in linux or windows) we'll see what happens here. thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?
On Saturday 21 June 2003 08:58 pm, Crak600 - Michael wrote: > Ok, here's the situation. my new 100GB hard drive showed up today. i need > to put it into the computer and get everything set up. here's the way i > plan to set up. > > 20GB hard drive i currently have - all for windows > 100GB hard drive - 80GB for mandrake, 20GB for windows (that's my current > plan, might go 60 linux 40 windows) > > i plan to use 2 hard drives, as neither of them is slow or old, only > difference between them is the 20GB has a 4MB buffer and the 100GB has a > 8MB buffer. both 7200rpm. > > now, here's where i need help.. > > which drive would i make the primary drive? my thought is that i'd make > the 100GB drive the primary drive, as the computer would have to access > linux before windows to give me the dual boot option, correct? > > Secondly...does the drive's position on the ribbon matter? i'm running 2 > things on that ribbon currently, the 20GB drive and my CDRW drive. this is > only the first computer i've owned that i've actually torn apart and put > back together hardware wise, once while trouble shooting for a defective > sound card, the other time doing a case swap. so i'm not all that familiar > with hooking up new hardware. > > i know if i make the 100GB drive the primary, i have to switch the jumper > on the 20GB drive to make it the secondary. > > and a final question.i'm running an ASUS KV7-RM motherboard that has > all the bios updates done to it, so that's a plus, but will i have to enter > the bios settings once i plug the new drive in? > > as far as how i'm going to work with linuxi havn't decided if i'm giong > to do a fresh install and wipe out the old install or if i'm going to try > to move the current install to the new drive (someone already gave me a > link that explains how to do that). that's something i'll decide for > myself once i get to that point. > > thanks in advance for any help! > > Mike Mike: You sound a bit confused about drive terminology. At the risk of telling you something that you already know, here's a short primer: Your board has two IDE slots (or channels). One is the primary, the other is the secondary. Each channel can handle both a master and slave drive. The drive jumpers determine whether a drive is to be the master or slave, but have nothing to do whether it is on the primary or secondary channel. It sounds as if your current setup has both drives on the primary channel with the HD as master and the CDRW as slave. My advice would be to leave the old HD as the primary master. Why confuse Windows more than it already is? You could install the new drive on the secondary channel and leave it jumpered as master; this arrangement is least apt to confuse Windows. However, my choice is to install the new drive on the primary channel as slave, and move the CDRW to the secondary channel as master. Check your BIOS settings that all of the IDE drives are set to Auto Detect (or whatever) -- and also that the secondary channel has not been turned off. I'll leave it to others to discuss partitioning schemes (it's been an active topic lately), but remember that you don't have to partition the whole damn 100 GB now. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] USB Flash disk
On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 08:39:07 -0400 Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 14 June 2003 04:44 pm, Aron Smith wrote: > > Bought one of those little usb pendrives M9.1 reconizes it but it is read > > only any body know how to reset it to r/w ? > > I recall this happened to me somewhere and I recall right-clicking the device > somewhere and being able to select whether I wanted to change it to > read/write mode. Perhaps in the file management view of konqueror. Did you ever get this to work Aron? As I said earlier, mine worked out of the box under Mandrake 8.2, but have just installed 9.1 on the older PC and found that mount would only bring it up as read only. There was a suspicious entry in /etc/fstab for the pendrive (auto in the line and kudzu in the attribute list). Having deleted that entry I could mount it fine from the command line mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /z An earlier attempt, before modifying fstab, was mount -t ext2 -w /dev/sda1 /z which failed with a message indicating that the device was write protected. It objected to the -w option. This implies that 8.2 either does not check for write protection or ignores it. -- Len Lawrence -- The most serious doubt that has been thrown on the authenticity of the biblical miracles is the fact that most of the witnesses in regard to them were fishermen. -- Arthur Binstead -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems, OT Speaking of cable select on HDDs
CableSelect is a function of the controller, not the hd. Very few controllers use the CS function (I've never owned one, nor even seen one, so I can only take it on face value that they exist). e On Saturday 21 June 2003 02:18 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: > I understood that newer drives on newer mobos can use cable select with no > problems. Well I've had zip luck with this. Ideas? > - > FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt > > Good Decisions Your boss Made: > "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that > character from Peanuts." > > - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tux pics...
> On Sunday 22 June 2003 12:07 am, Dennis Myers wrote: > > > Ron, I would like to have them, part of a collection. I have a small > > collection of stuffed toy penguins also. Each has a name, since Tux is > > taken I named the first one " Throckmorton P. Custerbuddy" the P. stands > > for penguin. : ) Throckmorton? :) That reminds me of my first IT job back in 1986 when I was QAing on a summer job with Symantec. I was part of the team for their Q&A database product and one of hte database records featured a "Throckmorton" -- ISTR his full name included Throckmorton but right now I can't think of the other name. Anyway, I put up a sign saying "Throckmorton for President" on my cube :). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tux pics...
On Sunday 22 June 2003 12:23 am, LeaAnne Kolp wrote: > Ron, > > I would really like to have those also :) > > Tux is so adorable! :) > > Thanks! On the way! :-) -- /\ Dark<>Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tux pics...
On Sunday 22 June 2003 12:07 am, Dennis Myers wrote: > Ron, I would like to have them, part of a collection. I have a small > collection of stuffed toy penguins also. Each has a name, since Tux is > taken I named the first one " Throckmorton P. Custerbuddy" the P. stands > for penguin. : ) ;-) Enroute... -- /\ Dark<>Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tux pics...
Ron, I would really like to have those also :) Tux is so adorable! :) Thanks! -- LeaAnne Kolp Don't forget to check out my sites! My Personal Site http://cowgirlk.shorturl.com My Cartoon Orbit Fan Page http://orbiters.funurl.com > From: "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: DarkForce! > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:20:54 -0400 > To: Newbie List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [newbie] Tux pics... > > In another thread (I think it was Femme!) posted some Tux gaming pics 'n > stuff. I found a couple I had lying around the old HD, if anyone wants me to > send them offlist. Of course, many of you probably already have these. > > One is from Penguin Computing (my fav!) > > One is Tux with a joystick > > One is Tux with a keyboard > > Just a thought... :-) > > -- > > /\ > Dark<>Lord > \/ > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
I think we all do..this is quickly becoming less than an amusement and more creepy. MRW - Original Message - From: "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag > On Saturday 21 June 2003 07:40 pm, Technoslick wrote: > > > No collusion, Joe. When an animal goes down, all the carnivores come > > out for a piece of the kill. Sun's taking advantage of an opportunity > > to get at IBM's market, not Linux in general. Others, big and small, > > who see a way to take a bite will try to do so, too. Just watch and > > see who all the meat-eaters really are as this drama unfolds. > > > > T > > I just want to fast-forward and see who's still standing... > > -- > > /\ >Dark<>Lord > \/ > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/2/03 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?
On Saturday 21 June 2003 08:58 pm, Crak600 - Michael wrote: > > which drive would i make the primary drive? my thought is that i'd make > the 100GB drive the primary drive, as the computer would have to access > linux before windows to give me the dual boot option, correct? Actually, Windows needs to be first, or at least it used to. I don't know about XP. I recall that Windows ignores all partitions above the first one it doesn't recognize, so I always put windows on first, create my shared partition and then put linux on the end of the drive. > Secondly...does the drive's position on the ribbon matter? i'm running 2 > things on that ribbon currently, the 20GB drive and my CDRW drive. this is > only the first computer i've owned that i've actually torn apart and put > back together hardware wise, once while trouble shooting for a defective > sound card, the other time doing a case swap. so i'm not all that familiar > with hooking up new hardware. You're best bet, as long as you don't need to do a lot of disk to disk copying, is to put your optical drives on a seperate channel from your hard drives. This is especially true of CDRW drives, where you want to maximize the data throughput from your hard drives to the burner. Putting them on the same channel could create bottlenecks when you burn a cd. So I would make the disk drives hda and hdb and let the cdrw be hdc. > i know if i make the 100GB drive the primary, i have to switch the jumper > on the 20GB drive to make it the secondary. > > and a final question.i'm running an ASUS KV7-RM motherboard that has > all the bios updates done to it, so that's a plus, but will i have to enter > the bios settings once i plug the new drive in? Maybe, maybe not. It depends on what your bios settings are now. Some people indicate none in the unused channels to speed up their boots. As long as everything in the bios is set to autodetect, then you shouldn't have to do anything, but if it is not, you may have to go in there and change some settigngs. > as far as how i'm going to work with linuxi havn't decided if i'm giong > to do a fresh install and wipe out the old install or if i'm going to try > to move the current install to the new drive (someone already gave me a > link that explains how to do that). that's something i'll decide for > myself once i get to that point. > You could always try to move it for the learning experience and if you screw up you can still reinstall. As far as partition sizes go, 80 gig is way too much for Linux. You are better off setting up your linux partitions in 10-15GB, and then creating a fat32 partition with the rest to share your data between windows and linux. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
BINGO John!!
I once again have my CDRW in my hardware list. Once again it appears twice, once as hdb and once as scd1. I opened xcdroast and it too sees the Samsung CDRW drive.
Now I must ask if I should leave both entries for the CDRW in my hardware list? I checked mount points and the CDRW is mounted as scd1. Is that as it should be?
Thank you so much, John! I am forever in your debt.
LTR }}:{(
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 16:09, John Drouhard wrote:
> hdb=ide-scsi
> ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi
Here's where it says that lilo set up scsi emulation properly.
> hdb: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-348B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
Here is where it says that hdb is in fact your cdrw drive
/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
Now, make this your fstab, save it, and reboot. Afterwards, you should
have scsi-em working like a charm!!
I am anxious to see how this turns out, please let me know as soon as
possible. :)
John Drouhard
Re: [newbie] Tux pics...
On Saturday 21 June 2003 11:20 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > In another thread (I think it was Femme!) posted some Tux gaming pics 'n > stuff. I found a couple I had lying around the old HD, if anyone wants me > to send them offlist. Of course, many of you probably already have these. > > One is from Penguin Computing (my fav!) > > One is Tux with a joystick > > One is Tux with a keyboard > > Just a thought... :-) Ron, I would like to have them, part of a collection. I have a small collection of stuffed toy penguins also. Each has a name, since Tux is taken I named the first one " Throckmorton P. Custerbuddy" the P. stands for penguin. : ) -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Help with rpmdrake not able to read source cds
Greetings List, I just started having a problem with my cdrom not finding any files on my installation cds. I was getting listings before I started playing an audio cd. I wanted to install lm_sensors using rpmdrake. It requested that I place the "Medium Installation CD2 (x86) (cdrom2)" on device [/dev/scd0] into the drive and click ok. I did so and waited... until rpmdrake ejected the cd giving me the same message. I tried several times then I even tried the Installation sources cd2 that came with my seven cd set and still no go. I clicked cancel and I got a popup displaying the following message: There was a problem during the installation: medium "Medium Installation CD2 (x86) (cdrom2)" is not selected. I clicked ok to clear out popup. I then quit rpmdrake and opened the software sources manager and noticed that it incorrectly displays 9 source cds not 7 it doubles up on my international, commercial and supplementary cds. It doesn't list my Installation Source cd2 (x86) cd. What gives? Remarks, advice. Thanks, Terry -- Terence Golightly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21 Always a Newbie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Tux pics...
In another thread (I think it was Femme!) posted some Tux gaming pics 'n stuff. I found a couple I had lying around the old HD, if anyone wants me to send them offlist. Of course, many of you probably already have these. One is from Penguin Computing (my fav!) One is Tux with a joystick One is Tux with a keyboard Just a thought... :-) -- /\ Dark<>Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
On Saturday 21 June 2003 07:40 pm, Technoslick wrote: > No collusion, Joe. When an animal goes down, all the carnivores come > out for a piece of the kill. Sun's taking advantage of an opportunity > to get at IBM's market, not Linux in general. Others, big and small, > who see a way to take a bite will try to do so, too. Just watch and > see who all the meat-eaters really are as this drama unfolds. > > T I just want to fast-forward and see who's still standing... -- /\ Dark<>Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems
On Saturday 21 June 2003 01:44 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > I also vaguely remember somethin about cable length and that the > distances for master and slave are purposely different > (resistance), and that controllers and the drives firmware take > this into account. Master expects to be 18" wire length from the > motherboard connector to approximate a constant resistance factor. Okay, I've got several I'll go ahead and switch them back, in the interest of safety. >I'm not convinced that's because of cable mods, but yeah send me > the pics. As long as the case can take in cool air low from the > rear or side, and exhaust heat at the top front or back, I fail to > see how cables get involved. If that's an AMD cpu runnin at 35-37C > under normal load, then you're temps are not being properly > reported, or your usin water cooling ;) If it's Intel, it's about > the norm. Er, sorry - the two are not related! I was just asking about the cables, the heat problem was something else entirely! :-) I'll send the pics to you offlist and everything will become clear as mud. :-) -- /\ Dark<>Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IMAP trouble (Evolution)
Todd Slater wrote: So at work I have an IMAP (Groupwise) account. I can open, read, and send with Mozilla, Thunderbird and Kmail. When I try to add the account with Sylpheed I get a segfault. I remember problems with Sylpheed and IMAP but I left the Sylpheed list so I'll go back and investigate. Thing is, I don't really want to use Mozilla or Kmail, and Thunderbird won't work yet as it can't send URL's to a browser. Todd, I don't understand what you are saying here. I've been using Thunderbird from the Minotaur days, currently running a nightly build from 5/31/2003 on Windows and on Linux. After reading your message, I clicked the "Write" button and typed myself a message, containing only a URL. All my mail is set to go out in text format, and I didn't do anything to the link I typed to force it to be a hyperlink. When that message arrived, the URL was automatically hyperlinked. I clicked it and it opened up my default browser (a featured selling point of Thunderbird, that it brings up your default browser instead of always bringing up Mozilla. Heck, here is the link I typed by hand, see if it hyperlinks for you: http://www.2cpu.com Note that this link is not **showing** as a hyperlink as I'm typing, but it is parsed as a hyperlink when it is received. I've actually stopped using Evolution on Linux and use Thunderbird there now also. I use IMAP, and Thunderbird doesn't seem to have as many problems with it as Evolution. Don't mean to start a jihad - Evolution is fine product - I'll probably try again with 1.4. It is actually faster that Thunderbird. My major problem with Thunderbird is that on my old dual Pentium 233MMX, it is pretty slow. So I tried Evolution yet again (I keep giving it a chance) and it can open and read my folders and mail, but there is no text in the summary window (no from, subject, or date, just a picture of an envelope so I know there are mail messages there). Pretty weird. Have you seen this problem in evolution before? Or I'll be satisfied with a decent, lightweight gui IMAP mail client. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?
On Saturday 21 June 2003 05:58 pm, Crak600 - Michael wrote: > Ok, here's the situation. my new 100GB hard drive showed up today. i need > to put it into the computer and get everything set up. here's the way i > plan to set up. > > 20GB hard drive i currently have - all for windows > 100GB hard drive - 80GB for mandrake, 20GB for windows (that's my current > plan, might go 60 linux 40 windows) That sounds a little excessive to me. 80Gb for Mandrake? I wouldn't, and my space needs a little extra room. But maybe 20Gb, if you need the temp space for video or sound editing. I my mind, I would think in terms of some shared space for file storage and such, so that both OSs could access it. That way if you purged all the saved files out of Windows/My Documents and stuck them in a partition (FAT32) that both could access, then you would be rockin. And you probably could hold each partition to 10-20Gb with 60-80 free for the storage of mp3s, iso images, video clips, cool freeware, and still have room left over for archiving when you want to install a new version. fresh. You never told us much about how you use your computer, so its hard to help too specifically. My system is using a 6Gb partition for Mandrake, with 13Gb free for Mp3 and iso image storage, then I have a network drive of 13Gb which is largely empty. And I am planning to make that drive a 40Gb RAID later this summer for space (the mp3s need off my machine's drive) and data security. Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cooker installation
On Saturday 21 June 2003 02:21 pm, John Drouhard wrote: > I decided I was going to get myself into some deep water and install > cooker. How should I go about doing this? At this very moment I am > mirroring a local copy of this: > ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586 > > Do I need to mirror the entire .../Mandrake-devel/cooker dir? Or is the > i586 directory enough. And, once this is done, how do I go about > installing it? I am going to do a fresh install from Mandrake 9.1. Are > all the setting and config files from 9.1 okay to use with Cooker? Or > should I start over with my /home partition too. > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
On 21 Jun 2003 20:44:00 -0500 Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I sent this earlier but I haven't seen it show up on the list. If it > comes through twice I apologize. > > OK, John, I believe I did everything as directed. > > Below is the new results of dmesg | grep hd t > hdb=ide-scsi > ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi Here's where it says that lilo set up scsi emulation properly. > hdb: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-348B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive Here is where it says that hdb is in fact your cdrw drive /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 Now, make this your fstab, save it, and reboot. Afterwards, you should have scsi-em working like a charm!! I am anxious to see how this turns out, please let me know as soon as possible. :) John Drouhard -- Sat Jun 21 21:05:07 UTC 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
OK, John, I believe I did everything as directed.
Below is the new results of dmesg | grep hd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi
ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA
hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive
hdb: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-348B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63, UDMA(100)
Yes, I've learned more about the Linux OS in the last few days than in all the months I've been running Linux.
What's next??
Again thanks for all the help. I would hgiven up long ago without the help I've gotten here.
LTR }}:{(
~~~
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 13:28, John Drouhard wrote:
On 21 Jun 2003 18:03:13 -0500
Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here it is John.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd
> Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount
> hdb=ide-scsi
> ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA
> hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive
> hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63,
> UDMA(100)
It's not even recognizing your cdrw drive as being there. Make this your fstab:
/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
Change it to that, save it, then edit your lilo.conf so your append line
DOES NOT have the scsi em thing. Then run lilo as root, and then reboot
your computer. Once you've done all this, run dmesg | grep hd again.
Then give us the results of that. We will then walk you through how to
set up sci-em, once again, correctly.
I imagine you've learned a lot about linux through this experience. :)
John Drouhard
[newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?
Ok, here's the situation. my new 100GB hard drive showed up today. i need to put it into the computer and get everything set up. here's the way i plan to set up. 20GB hard drive i currently have - all for windows 100GB hard drive - 80GB for mandrake, 20GB for windows (that's my current plan, might go 60 linux 40 windows) i plan to use 2 hard drives, as neither of them is slow or old, only difference between them is the 20GB has a 4MB buffer and the 100GB has a 8MB buffer. both 7200rpm. now, here's where i need help.. which drive would i make the primary drive? my thought is that i'd make the 100GB drive the primary drive, as the computer would have to access linux before windows to give me the dual boot option, correct? Secondly...does the drive's position on the ribbon matter? i'm running 2 things on that ribbon currently, the 20GB drive and my CDRW drive. this is only the first computer i've owned that i've actually torn apart and put back together hardware wise, once while trouble shooting for a defective sound card, the other time doing a case swap. so i'm not all that familiar with hooking up new hardware. i know if i make the 100GB drive the primary, i have to switch the jumper on the 20GB drive to make it the secondary. and a final question.i'm running an ASUS KV7-RM motherboard that has all the bios updates done to it, so that's a plus, but will i have to enter the bios settings once i plug the new drive in? as far as how i'm going to work with linuxi havn't decided if i'm giong to do a fresh install and wipe out the old install or if i'm going to try to move the current install to the new drive (someone already gave me a link that explains how to do that). that's something i'll decide for myself once i get to that point. thanks in advance for any help! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Told ya, don't trust IBM
On Saturday 21 June 2003 05:41 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: > At 07:14 PM 6/21/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > > >To be pedantically accurate, the original is "When I hear the > > > > word 'culture', I reach for my gun." by one of the Nazis. > > > >I think it was the Brownshirt leader, not Goebbels, and he used > > > > the actual name of a German gun - you historians can put me > > > > right. > > > > > > > >However, Tom's/Joe's quote/misquote is a better version, IMHO > > > > > > > >DougB > > > > > > Joes makes me thinks "Gun nut". The other "Fascism"...both of > > > which bother me deeply. > > > >Please define "Gun nut" > > > >-- > > Sorry no... not on this list. That discussion belongs on the OT > one...which i'm trying to get off. Honestly the debate isnt worth the > bandwith & I'm not into opening that can of worms in shit. Sorry. You > want me to define it you can email me offlist... Till then I refuse to let > this thread go any further down that road by adding fuel. I shoulda > thought before i typed on this one. I didn't. My oops. > - > FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt stepped into that one didn't you kid ;-) > > Good Decisions Your boss Made: > "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that > character from Peanuts." > > - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Failed Compilation of kdelibs-3.1-58mdk.src.rpm
On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 05:12, Huw Blackwell wrote: > Okay guys, > > A bit stumped by this one, I am new to linux and learning quickly > (hence jumping in @ the deep end by optimizing mandrake for my > computer...) Not Sure if this should go on another mailing list > (please advise if you have one to suggest) but here goes. > > Compiling kdelibs-3.1-58mdk.src.rpm on an AMD Duron 750, 128Mb Ram Via > kt133 chipset. > > Opt flags are standard Mandake issue, as found in /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc > the rebuild just targeting athlon architecture. > > I Can't find any reference to this anywhere on the web. > @ wits end > > Any pointers would be apprieciated. I have the full comiliation text > which I can mail to you as an attachment if this is not sufficient. > > Thanks > > Huw Do you have a reference to the QT libs in your /etc/ld.so.conf - and if so, have you run "ldconfig" to rebuild the lib path cache? -- Sun Jun 22 10:40:00 EST 2003 10:40:00 up 19:50, 5 users, load average: 1.85, 1.94, 1.98 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Brief History Of Linux (#18) The rise and rise of the Microsoft Empire The DOS and Windows releases kept coming, and much to everyone's surprise, Microsoft became more and more successful. This brought much frustration to computer experts who kept predicting the demise of Microsoft and the rise of Macintosh, Unix, and OS/2. Nobody ever got fired for choosing Microsoft, which was the prime reason that DOS and Windows prevailed. Oh, and DOS had better games as well, which we all know is the most important feature an OS can have. In 1986 Microsoft's continued success prompted the company to undergo a wildly successful IPO. Afterwards, Microsoft and Chairman Bill had accumulated enough money to acquire small countries without missing a step, but all that money couldn't buy quality software. Gates could, however, buy enough marketing and hype to keep MS-DOS (Maybe Some Day an Operating System) and Windows (Will Install Needless Data On While System) as the dominant platforms, so quality didn't matter. This fact was demonstrated in Microsoft's short-lived slogan from 1988, "At Microsoft, quality is job 1.1". Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
I sent this earlier but I haven't seen it show up on the list. If it comes through twice I apologize.
OK, John, I believe I did everything as directed.
Below is the new results of dmesg | grep hd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi
ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA
hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive
hdb: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-348B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63, UDMA(100)
Yes, I've learned more about the Linux OS in the last few days than in all the months I've been running Linux.
What's next??
Again thanks for all the help. I would hgiven up long ago without the help I've gotten here.
LTR }}:{(
~~~
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 13:28, John Drouhard wrote:
On 21 Jun 2003 18:03:13 -0500
Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here it is John.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd
> Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount
> hdb=ide-scsi
> ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA
> hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive
> hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63,
> UDMA(100)
It's not even recognizing your cdrw drive as being there. Make this your fstab:
/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
Change it to that, save it, then edit your lilo.conf so your append line
DOES NOT have the scsi em thing. Then run lilo as root, and then reboot
your computer. Once you've done all this, run dmesg | grep hd again.
Then give us the results of that. We will then walk you through how to
set up sci-em, once again, correctly.
I imagine you've learned a lot about linux through this experience. :)
John Drouhard
[newbie] re re mnt/winc
>From a terminal, cd to /mnt/win_d. Now type mkdir test. Post any errors. > Also, I can boot to linux, I cannot reboot, shutdown the computer or > change user from linux. Here I am not sure what you mean. How are you trying to reboot/shutdown? How are you trying to change users? Logout and log back in from the Login Manager? -- No errors when I made the test file. I use kde as my gui, and logout etcetera is done through the kde menu. I have upgraded my installation daily so I have the latest updates running. Any ideas anyone? cheers, Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Told ya, don't trust IBM
> > > >To be pedantically accurate, the original is "When I hear the > > word 'culture', I reach for my gun." by one of the Nazis. > >I think it was the Brownshirt leader, not Goebbels, and he used > > the actual name of a German gun - you historians can put me > > right. > > > >However, Tom's/Joe's quote/misquote is a better version, IMHO > > > >DougB > > Joes makes me thinks "Gun nut". The other "Fascism"...both of > which bother me deeply. > Please define "Gun nut" -- Composed on a 100% Microsoft and Windows free computer with Mandrake Linux 9.1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
On Saturday 21 June 2003 06:49 pm, JoeHill graced me with: > http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-1018669.html > > It's official, Sun is right in there with MS and SCO. They even > have an ad campaign telling "nervous" IBM customers that they can > switch to Solaris because SCO is not after Sun. No collusion, Joe. When an animal goes down, all the carnivores come out for a piece of the kill. Sun's taking advantage of an opportunity to get at IBM's market, not Linux in general. Others, big and small, who see a way to take a bite will try to do so, too. Just watch and see who all the meat-eaters really are as this drama unfolds. T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
On Saturday 21 June 2003 06:49 pm, JoeHill wrote: > It's official, Sun is right in there with MS and SCO. They even have an > ad campaign telling "nervous" IBM customers that they can switch to > Solaris because SCO is not after Sun. > Well, I read the whole article, and while I'm not defending Sun, I don't get the same thing out of it you do. I see where Sun is capitalizing on the current situation. Even they see where it probably won't net them a whole lot, but its worth a shot. While I'm not thrilled with the idea that they are taking advantage of a legal dispute to make more sales, I see this as just that., an opportunity to take advantage of the legal dispute. After all, IBM is their biggest competitor. If they can pull one over on them, then so much the better. The article even says that they bought their license several years ago. While, I tend to not believe any company, it has to be taken on its face value until proven otherwise. My 2 cents worth. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
On 21 Jun 2003 18:03:13 -0500 Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here it is John. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd > Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount > hdb=ide-scsi > ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi > ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio > ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA > hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive > hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63, > UDMA(100) It's not even recognizing your cdrw drive as being there. Make this your fstab: /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 Change it to that, save it, then edit your lilo.conf so your append line DOES NOT have the scsi em thing. Then run lilo as root, and then reboot your computer. Once you've done all this, run dmesg | grep hd again. Then give us the results of that. We will then walk you through how to set up sci-em, once again, correctly. I imagine you've learned a lot about linux through this experience. :) John Drouhard -- Sat Jun 21 18:24:08 UTC 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hard drive partition sizes
> On Saturday June 21 2003 09:46 am, eric huff wrote: >> A! If i were, theoretically, wanting to just reformat /boot, and >> rebuild it, how would i do that? >> >> I had this exact need last weekend... > > Disclaimer: I've never done this! But I believe you could do > an install with the first CD, choosing only to reformat /boot. > >Why did you want to reformat /boot? If it was just a matter of > links and files you messed up in /boot, I believe I'd just use I had resized the ntfs partition (which worked) but managed to screw up the next one (/boot) to where it was corrupted. Tried fscking, but couldn't fix it. Then tried reinstalling and only formatting /boot, but i still had problems. Looking back, though, i think it may have actually been a video problem. For some reason, i often have to fiddle with video config before i get it to work right. If i ever install again and have problems, i will spend some time comparing the X config file. Anyway, i got to do a new fresh install, and in the end have more space (because i only installed my favorite progs this time) and better partition organization... eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems
On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 01:19, Andy Davidson wrote: > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 09:12:22AM -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > Also, it's correct practice to have master on the cable's > > end connector, not the middle one. > > That I didn't know. Why? > > andy Because by setting a jumpered MASTER/SLAVE you're not leaving yourself open to problems with software or BIOS. -- Sun Jun 22 09:20:00 EST 2003 09:20:00 up 18:30, 5 users, load average: 3.38, 2.94, 2.54 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Your mother seems really upset. I better go have a talk with her -- during the commercial. -- Homer Simpson Simpsoncalifragilisticexpiala(annoyed grunt)ocious Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] cooker installation
I decided I was going to get myself into some deep water and install cooker. How should I go about doing this? At this very moment I am mirroring a local copy of this: ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586 Do I need to mirror the entire .../Mandrake-devel/cooker dir? Or is the i586 directory enough. And, once this is done, how do I go about installing it? I am going to do a fresh install from Mandrake 9.1. Are all the setting and config files from 9.1 okay to use with Cooker? Or should I start over with my /home partition too. Thanks! John Drouhard -- Sat Jun 21 18:20:36 UTC 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rox/pekwm crashes
On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 01:12, eric huff wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] huff]$ more /etc/ld.so.conf > /usr/X11R6/lib > /usr/lib/qt3/lib > > I checked those paths: all the links in them were good. What > exactly am i looking for? > > I reran ldconfig just in case. > > I have to run, but i'll check back later to see if it helped. > > I'll have to investigate to see which libs/paths are with pekwm... > > Thanks for the tip, > eric > /usr/lib /usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/xfce4 /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/qt3/lib /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0/post /usr/lib/wine /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3 /usr/local/netscape /usr/lib/evolution/1.3 /usr/lib/kde3 /usr/java/lib ...that's what mine looks like - but I always make sure that every pertinent library directory is added... -- Sun Jun 22 09:20:00 EST 2003 09:20:00 up 18:30, 5 users, load average: 3.38, 2.94, 2.54 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Your mother seems really upset. I better go have a talk with her -- during the commercial. -- Homer Simpson Simpsoncalifragilisticexpiala(annoyed grunt)ocious Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hard drive partition sizes
On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 00:03, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Saturday June 21 2003 12:21 am, eric huff wrote: > > I'm still trying to figure out if /boot should be seperate, but > > here is an example of mine: > > > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/hda6 621M 86M 535M 14% / > > /dev/hda5 172M 6.4M 157M 4% /boot > > I've used a separate /boot since civileme recommended doin so > quite a while ago if your other partitions are journalized fs's. He > said to use ext2 or ext3 for /boot, specially with XFS or ReisersFS > / and other partitions. So I do, particularly since civileme's > specialty was HDD, fs's and partition QA. > > I've found it handy at install time too. I run cooker and have > a lot of kernels in /boot. Havin 'em in a separate partition gives > me the option to keep 'em, or go ahead and reformat /boot to clear > it out when various cooker iso's start comin out. Mines 46MB, and > over 20mb is used. Most people would only need about a 20mb /boot. Hmmm...funny - I'm even using ReiserFS on my /boot partition... I still like "spreading it out" and load balancing - so putting the SWAP and /tmp on different physical drives is always a good thing for getting the most out of a system...(IF you've got more than one drive to play with) -- Sun Jun 22 09:10:00 EST 2003 09:10:00 up 18:20, 5 users, load average: 1.87, 1.92, 2.17 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * "What is the Nature of God?" CLICK...CLICK...WHIRRR...CLICK...=BEEP!= 1 QT. SOUR CREAM 1 TSP. SAUERKRAUT 1/2 CUT CHIVES. STIR AND SPRINKLE WITH BACON BITS. "I've just GOT to start labeling my software..." -- Bloom County Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
On Saturday 21 June 2003 03:49 pm, JoeHill wrote: > http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-1018669.html > > It's official, Sun is right in there with MS and SCO. They even have an > ad campaign telling "nervous" IBM customers that they can switch to > Solaris because SCO is not after Sun. > > Well, fsck you too Sun. I'm afraid that the people that they intend to fsck is us Does it seem that the attacks against Linux have increased lately? SCO M$ SUN all have piroproptry O/S's all losing money or watching market share dwindle. Follow the money. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
Here it is John.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi
ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA
hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive
hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63, UDMA(100)
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On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 12:36, John Drouhard wrote:
Could you give us the output of this command:
dmesg | grep hd
Copy and paste this into a terminal. This will help us to help you
configure your fstab properly.
HTH,
John Drouhard
Re: [newbie] rox/pekwm crashes
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:22:42 -0400 > JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > >> I just updated to the latest CVS of Pekwm, transferred some files in >> ROX, no probs to report. >> >> I'll let ya know if I run into anything tho. > > ah ha! as soon as i tried to delete a file, *cash!* > > ya, it's gotta be Pekwm, not ROX. I'll help ya push this a little > further on the Pek list, but it's my wife's Birthday weekend, so I'll > prolly be out of commission til Monday. > > I've reverted to version CVS Built on Tue Jun 3 23:40:58 EDT 2003 and > it has no such problem (before the release of 0.1.3). I set up a couple folders and a dummy to move around, and sometimes it takes a dozen tries for the crash, sometimes just one. Someone suggested running rox-session, which will uses xsession-errors. I'll try that when i get a chance. Simimilar to you, it's my inlaw's bday, so it will be a little while before i get to do more testing. (right now, i am on their mac, using webmail. talke about awkward! I know it's possible, but i can't even find undo on this thing, nor can i shift-end, home, etc while editing text...) eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-1018669.html It's official, Sun is right in there with MS and SCO. They even have an ad campaign telling "nervous" IBM customers that they can switch to Solaris because SCO is not after Sun. Well, fsck you too Sun. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
On 21 Jun 2003 17:01:25 -0500 Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi again John. > > I managed to do a copy and paste to my etc directory by copying the new > fstab to my tmp directory as user and then copying and pasting it into > my etc directory as root. What follows is what I got when I typed mount > -a in a terminal as root. > > mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only > mount: No medium found > mount: mount point 0 does not exist > mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device > mount: mount point 0 does not exist > > That means nothing to me but I'm hoping it will to you. I don't see > anything there which appears to be my CDRW drive but then as I said , it > means nothing, or I guess I should say very little, to me. My old SCSI > CD ROM drive is listed in the hardware list as scd0 so I doubt that that > is it. I also opened xcdroast and the CDRW does not appear there. > Could you give us the output of this command: dmesg | grep hd Copy and paste this into a terminal. This will help us to help you configure your fstab properly. HTH, John Drouhard -- Sat Jun 21 17:35:21 UTC 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
Hi John.
I tried typing eject /dev for /hda, /hdb, /hdc, and /hdd. None of the commands ever ejected or opened anything. this is the response I got to each of the commands.
eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/hdb'
These are the responses I got when I tried eject /dev/scd1 and /scd0
eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/scd1'
[EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ eject /dev/scd0
eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
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On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 16:12, John Drouhard wrote:
I have a suggestion. Try typing eject /dev/hda. If it can't find eject,
then install it with urpmi eject. Once it's installed, type eject
/dev/hda, eject /dev/hdb, eject /dev/hdc, and eject /dev/hdd. All as
separate commands. Then tell us which command opens your cdrw drive (and
your regular cd drive if you have one). Then we can just give you a new
fstab and lilo.conf file.
Hope you get this working!
John Drouhard
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
Hi again John.
I managed to do a copy and paste to my etc directory by copying the new fstab to my tmp directory as user and then copying and pasting it into my etc directory as root. What follows is what I got when I typed mount -a in a terminal as root.
mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: No medium found
mount: mount point 0 does not exist
mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
mount: mount point 0 does not exist
That means nothing to me but I'm hoping it will to you. I don't see anything there which appears to be my CDRW drive but then as I said , it means nothing, or I guess I should say very little, to me. My old SCSI CD ROM drive is listed in the hardware list as scd0 so I doubt that that is it. I also opened xcdroast and the CDRW does not appear there.
LTR }}:{(
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 11:43, John Richard Smith wrote:
Langsley T Russell wrote:
> Hi again John.
>
> I edited the fstab file as you suggested. The contents appears below.
>
> /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
> none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
> none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
> /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount
> dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
> /mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount
> dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0
> /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
> /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
> none /proc proc defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
>
>
>
OK, Langsley, I think it's time to start dropping supermount, maybe you
have the same problem with supermount as me. S0 I would like you to copy
this script ,
/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/scd0 /mnt/scd0 auto
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
into a fresh new text file on desktop , do this by moving the cursor
over a blank spot on desktop, rightmouse click down to create new - text
file, and name it fatab, then move the cursor over the icon of the new
fstab textfile and roghtmouse click- down to open with text editor, and
choose one, say kwrite , and then sweep the text I have given you here
with the mouse cursor and move the cursor over the open fstab text file
left mouse click to position, and then press middle mouse button, and
all the copyied text will fill out onto the page, then save and exit.
You then have a new fstab file .
Go to /etc directory in konqueror window and rename the existing fstab
file fstab1, then copy your new fstab file to /etc directory.
in a terminal , type, mount -a
and see if that gives you a writer
test by putting up something like xcdroast and see if it appears in the
device list.
or type in terminal,
cdrecord -scanbus, and see what it says,
John
Re: [OT] Re: [newbie] Told ya, don't trust IBM
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:04:20 -0400 Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > I often think that Che was partially motivated to leave by the way in > which he saw Fidel moving. absolutely, but you also have to understand that when the U.S. made it clear that would do everything they could to get rid of the new regime and reimpose imperialist rule, they gave Fidel's agenda more legitimacy. It's sad in the same way that the Russian revolution went the way it did. Initially, the Trotskyists were the moving force, but the activities of the West gave the Leninists the excuse they needed to impose something much different and obviously much less democratic than was intended. ie., not at all. Lenin was *not* a Marxist, Trotsky was, same in Cuba. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [OT] Re: [newbie] Told ya, don't trust IBM
On Saturday 21 June 2003 02:04 pm, Michael Scottaline wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:28:50 -0400 > > JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: > >On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:38:06 -0600 > > > >FemmeFatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > >> Joes makes me thinks "Gun nut". > > > >you misunderstand, I have a certain sympathy with the individualist who > >resists authority, and I recognize that *sometimes* it is necessary to > >take up arms against the imposition of an immoral authority. For > >example, I see nothing wrong with what the Zapatistas did in Mexico, or > >what Che and Fidel did to Batista and his band of criminal thugs in > >Cuba. > > > In retrospect though, tough to consider Fidel an "individiualist", no??? I > often think that Che was partially motivated to leave by the way in which > he saw Fidel moving. My guess is that there are many "individualists" in > Cuba today in hiding, or rotting in prisons :( > > > >Of course the other is offensive. The guy was a fscking Nazi! > > === > Definitely NOT an individualist :) > Best, > Mike Speaking of revolution did anyone ever read "Come October" byA. E. van Vogt ? (I think that was the author) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems
At 08:21 PM 6/20/2003 -0500, you wrote:
I got the new disk form Maxtor today and have just made five attempts at
installing 9.1 - the last one using rc2 or 3 - the install was smooth but on
reboot, got this :
EXT3-fs error (device ide0 (3,1)): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read
inode block - inode=259114
Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill init!
The last attempt with the power pack ended with this these 15 lines:
ide0:reset: success
hda: dma_initr: status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error}
hda: dma_initr error=0x84 {DriceStatusError Bad CRC} end_request: I/O
error dev 03:01 (hda) sector 1154352
EXT3-fs error (device ide-0 (3,1)): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read
inode block - inode=719489, block 1441794
ide0:reset success
Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill init!
<6> keyboard: unknown scancode e0 7a
I've had 9.1 installed successfully on this machine several times.
I understand that kernel panic is usually hardware related but that
doesn't make sense as there's no change in any hardware... except the new
hard disk.
Do one of you gurus have a clue for me?
Thanks in advance
Your new HDD came with a diskette. It has utility on it to low level
format the drive. I'd do that first. Fair warning: If your hard drive is
over 30gb it will take several hours at best...overnight probably...but
that will reset the whole thing if there are any weird blocks on the
platters. IOW It makes it as if it were blank again at factory
default. Thats the first thing i'd do/try.
-
FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt
Good Decisions Your boss Made:
"We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts."
- Source: Dilbert
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Re: [newbie] Told ya, don't trust IBM
At 04:28 PM 6/21/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:38:06 -0600 FemmeFatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > Joes makes me thinks "Gun nut". you misunderstand, I have a certain sympathy with the individualist who resists authority, and I recognize that *sometimes* it is necessary to take up arms against the imposition of an immoral authority. For example, I see nothing wrong with what the Zapatistas did in Mexico, or what Che and Fidel did to Batista and his band of criminal thugs in Cuba. Of course the other is offensive. The guy was a fscking Nazi! -- + Joe Hill Works for me. Understood now. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems, OT Speaking of cable select on HDDs
At 04:59 AM 6/21/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:55:46 -0700 Erylon Hines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and check that your drive jumpers are in the proper > positions (looks like it is the master (hda) on the first ide (ide0). Oh man I didn't even look at the jumper - thought default was the master position - actually it's cable select. Thanks for the kick start From my brand spankin' new 9.1 install, Curt I understood that newer drives on newer mobos can use cable select with no problems. Well I've had zip luck with this. Ideas? - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[OT] Re: [newbie] Told ya, don't trust IBM
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:28:50 -0400 JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: >On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:38:06 -0600 >FemmeFatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > >> Joes makes me thinks "Gun nut". > >you misunderstand, I have a certain sympathy with the individualist who >resists authority, and I recognize that *sometimes* it is necessary to >take up arms against the imposition of an immoral authority. For >example, I see nothing wrong with what the Zapatistas did in Mexico, or >what Che and Fidel did to Batista and his band of criminal thugs in >Cuba. In retrospect though, tough to consider Fidel an "individiualist", no??? I often think that Che was partially motivated to leave by the way in which he saw Fidel moving. My guess is that there are many "individualists" in Cuba today in hiding, or rotting in prisons :( > >Of course the other is offensive. The guy was a fscking Nazi! === Definitely NOT an individualist :) Best, Mike -- "The man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life" --Muhammad Ali Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Failed Compilation of kdelibs-3.1-58mdk.src.rpm
Okay guys, A bit stumped by this one, I am new to linux and learning quickly (hence jumping in @ the deep end by optimizing mandrake for my computer...) Not Sure if this should go on another mailing list (please advise if you have one to suggest) but here goes. Compiling kdelibs-3.1-58mdk.src.rpm on an AMD Duron 750, 128Mb Ram Via kt133 chipset. Opt flags are standard Mandake issue, as found in /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc the rebuild just targeting athlon architecture. Auto Conf 2.5 This works for all optimizations I have done so far. (XFree86, GCC, QT) Libqt3-3.11, libqt3-common-3.11,libarts-devel and libartts-1.1.0 installed. All required dependancy files installed as listed on Mandrake src.rpm page for this src.rpm. Here what I think is the relevant part of the error message when compiling. libkhtmlhtml_la.all_cpp.cpp' || echo './'`libkhtmlhtml_la.all_cpp.cpp /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --mode=link --tag=CXX athlon-mandrake-linux-gnu-g++ -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -march=athlon -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_COMPAT-o libkhtmlhtml.la libkhtmlhtml_la.all_cpp.lo make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/hwb/RPM/BUILD/kdelibs-3.1/khtml/html' Making all in rendering make[3]: Entering directory `/home/hwb/RPM/BUILD/kdelibs-3.1/khtml/rendering' cd ../.. && /bin/sh ./config.status khtml/rendering/Makefile depfiles config.status: creating khtml/rendering/Makefile config.status: executing depfiles commands make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/hwb/RPM/BUILD/kdelibs-3.1/khtml/rendering' make[3]: Entering directory `/home/hwb/RPM/BUILD/kdelibs-3.1/khtml/rendering' /usr/lib/qt3/bin/moc ./render_form.h -o render_form.moc /usr/lib/qt3/bin/moc ./render_frames.h -o render_frames.moc /usr/lib/qt3/bin/moc ./render_replaced.h -o render_replaced.moc creating libkhtmlrender_la.all_cpp.cpp ... source='libkhtmlrender_la.all_cpp.cpp' object='libkhtmlrender_la.all_cpp.lo' libtool=yes \ depfile='.deps/libkhtmlrender_la.all_cpp.Plo' tmpdepfile='.deps/libkhtmlrender_la.all_cpp.TPlo' \ depmode=gcc3 /bin/sh ../../admin/depcomp \ /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --mode=compile --tag=CXX athlon-mandrake-linux-gnu-g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../kimgio -I../../kio -I../../dcop -I../../kfile -I../../khtml -I../.. -I../../dcop -I../../libltdl -I../../kdecore -I../../kdeui -I../../kio -I../../kio/kio -I../../kio/kfile -I../.. -I/usr/lib/qt3/include -I/usr/X11R6/include-DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -march=athlon -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_COMPAT -c -o libkhtmlrender_la.all_cpp.lo `test -f 'libkhtmlrender_la.all_cpp.cpp' || echo './'`libkhtmlrender_la.all_cpp.cpp In file included from libkhtmlrender_la.all_cpp.cpp:5: render_object.cpp: In member function `void khtml::RenderObject::recalcMinMaxWidths()': render_object.cpp:1025: warning: `int cmin' might be used uninitialized in this function render_object.cpp:1025: warning: `int cmax' might be used uninitialized in this function In file included from libkhtmlrender_la.all_cpp.cpp:12: table_layout.cpp: In member function `int khtml::FixedTableLayout::calcWidthArray(int)': table_layout.cpp:92: warning: unused parameter `int tableWidth' In file included from libkhtmlrender_la.all_cpp.cpp:14: render_form.cpp:31:20: kspell.h: No such file or directory In file included from libkhtmlrender_la.all_cpp.cpp:14: render_form.cpp: In destructor `virtual khtml::TextAreaWidget::~TextAreaWidget()': render_form.cpp:1186: invalid use of undefined type `struct KSpell' ../../khtml/rendering/render_form.h:37: forward declaration of `struct KSpell' In file included from libkhtmlrender_la.all_cpp.cpp:14: render_form.cpp: In member function `void khtml::TextAreaWidget::slotCheckSpelling()': render_form.cpp:1225: invalid use of undefined type `struct KSpell' ../../khtml/rendering/render_form.h:37: forward declaration of `struct KSpell' render_form.cpp:1226: invalid use of undefined type `struct KSpell' ../../khtml/rendering/render_form.h:37: forward declaration of `struct KSpell' render_form.cpp: In member function `void khtml::TextAreaWidget::slotSpellCheckReady(KSpell*)': render_form.cpp:1231: invalid use of undefined type `struct KSpell' ../../khtml/rendering/render_form.h:37: forward declaration of `struct KSpell' render_form.cpp:1232: no matching function for call to `khtml::TextAreaWidget::connect(KSpell*&, const char[25], khtml::TextAreaWidget* const, const char[39])' /usr/lib/qt3/include/qobject.h:116: candidates are:
Re: [newbie] re mnt/win_c*
On 22 Jun 2003 03:51:00 +0930 Mike Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > No errors on mkdir test. that directory is only an ftp folder. > "How are you trying to change users? Logout and log back in from the > Login Manager?" > Yes, pity it doesn't work. Ok, yer replies come in the weirdest places! You should try to maintain the thread, it's easier to follow. Anyhoo, if you can mkdir test in /mnt/win_d, then there's nothing wrong with the actual setup, it's your X desktop that is having issues, not the system itself. It is actually very common to not have the option to reboot from the Login manager, at least I have heard that complaint from many people on here. Really, IMHO, it is far better to boot to a text-mode login in Linux, just go to Mandrake Control Center and Boot. It will allow you to set it to runlevel 3. That allows you to shut down your X desktop cleanly and then diagnose the problem. Also, you can reboot easily by pressing ctrl-alt-del or shutdown by typing "halt". When the machine boots, you can then login and choose what desktop or window manager you want to run. I don't think I ever asked, what desktop are you using, ie. KDE, Gnome, etc.? -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] webmin
On Saturday 21 Jun 2003 5:12 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:54:50 +0100 > > Tsyko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First make sure it is installed with your Mandrake Software Manger > (or 'urpmi webmin' in a root terminal) > > Then in any broswer enter the URL > https://localhost:1 > Note: the https ! > You can replace localhost with the IP address or hostname and use > it from any computer on your network. The first time it runs you > will see a message about a certification certificate. Just accept > it and you are in. > Alternatively (this is linux - there's always more than one way ) - from a root terminal, type 'webmin' without quotes, of course. It will launch in a browser, and behave exactly as Derek has described. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] looking for a tv card for Linux
On Saturday 21 Jun 2003 3:02 pm, Azrael wrote: > On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 22:02, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Friday 20 Jun 2003 5:13 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > > > Anne Wilson wrote: > > > >On Friday 28 Mar 2003 3:27 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > > > >>Does anyone know of a digital decoder tv card ? > > > >> > > > >>John > > > > > > > >John - I've got a Hauppage Nova-T card on order. I'll let you > > > > know how it goes - but it may not be fast. They're not > > > > guaranteeing to deliver before I go on holiday, as one of the > > > > items I ordered is out of stock. > > > > > > > >Anne > > > > > > Anne, is this digital terrestrial or digital satalite tv card ? > > > > Digital terrestrial, I believe. > > > > > either way I'm extremely interested. > > > How much and where from, > > > will do teletext ? > > > > You can get all the details from ccl's site. I think you know > > it? > > > > www.cclcomputers.co.uk > > > > Anne > > Is this card supported by linux? I was given a nova-t usb a while > back.. which doesn't work under linux.. and that annoyed me.. would > be keen to get the nova-t pci if it works easily on mandrake. Time will tell. The delivery has been delayed while they wait for the biggest item on my order. However, I have an email from the vendor confirming that it uses the BT-848 controller chip, and everyone seems to have faith that any card using that chip should be fine, so fingers crossed. My problem is that I'm going on holiday in a few days, so it may be 2-3 weeks before I can install now, even if it does actually arrive before I go. I'll report back to the list, though, when I do install. I don't have a good arial in this room, so I'm not sure just what will be possible - it's trial and error. I'm really buying it for video capture from my camcorder. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Told ya, don't trust IBM
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:38:06 -0600 FemmeFatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > Joes makes me thinks "Gun nut". you misunderstand, I have a certain sympathy with the individualist who resists authority, and I recognize that *sometimes* it is necessary to take up arms against the imposition of an immoral authority. For example, I see nothing wrong with what the Zapatistas did in Mexico, or what Che and Fidel did to Batista and his band of criminal thugs in Cuba. Of course the other is offensive. The guy was a fscking Nazi! -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] looking for a tv card for Linux
On Saturday 21 Jun 2003 8:58 am, John Richard Smith wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > >On Friday 20 Jun 2003 5:13 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > >>Anne Wilson wrote: > If it's free digital tv channels, it must be terrestrial, which is > a pitty for me, because the signal for digital terrestrial tv in my > area is poor, as indeed, from what I hear, is the case in many > areas. I went to the free chanels site and put in the postcode. It gave me details of my nearest transmitter and the chanels available. That transmitter is the one that serves us for normal tv broadcasting, so while they display a disclaimer, I'm fairly sure that it will work. > I'm guessing that these higher frequency terrestrial tv > signals are too straight line and cannot bend round modest hills > and buildings like the old analogue tv terrestrial signals did. So > unless the signal quality improves for me it's not much use, a pity > really, and for the UK government, who are pinning there hopes on > eliminating the old analogue tv signals by about 2010 , based upon > digital terrestrial tv. > > If your card, when it comes, works on digital saterlite tv, as > well, let me know. > Will do. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rox/pekwm crashes
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:44:49 -0700 eric huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > I am having a problem with pekwm crashing when i move files in > Rox-filer. > > I boot in init 3, and when it crashes, i am back at the cli in text > mode. I can happily startx again. I just updated to the latest CVS of Pekwm, transferred some files in ROX, no probs to report. I'll let ya know if I run into anything tho. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] webmin
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:54:50 +0100 Tsyko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One very stupid question.. > > > How do I launch webmin?? > > > Thanks > > First make sure it is installed with your Mandrake Software Manger (or 'urpmi webmin' in a root terminal) Then in any broswer enter the URL https://localhost:1 Note: the https ! You can replace localhost with the IP address or hostname and use it from any computer on your network. The first time it runs you will see a message about a certification certificate. Just accept it and you are in. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This ROCKS
Question for you Warren Why choose LEAF Dachstein as opposed to LEAF Bering ? My understanding is Dachstein uses the 2.2 kernel with IPchains while Bering uses 2.4 with IPTables. I have used Bering with great success, but have never tried Dachstein. I just wonder why you prefer Dachstein? derek On 21 Jun 2003 09:15:38 -0600 Warren Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > El jue, 19-06-2003 a las 21:22, JoeHill escribió: > > > > http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ > > It sure does. I put Dachstein LEAF on a client's abandoned 486 and saved > them from buying a hardware router/firewall. The client has 25 brand new > Windoze machines and the LEAF box is the only reliable 'puter in the > building. Ha! > > -- > Warren Post > Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras > http://srcopan.vze.com/ > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Issues with RAM
You right I might not need more than 512MB ram, but remember one Famouse person once said a pc will never need more than 640KB of ram... what happened there? hehehehe On Saturday, 21 June 2003 15:22, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Saturday June 21 2003 06:00 am, Tsyko wrote: > > I have 1GB of ram, when I try a fresh install of Mandrake, it > > flashes a message on the screen and then locks up with all the > > lights on the keybaord flashing.. > > > > > > It works if I take a dimm out of the machine reducing it to > > 512MB.. > > Add 'mem=860M' to your lilo.conf's append line, and then run > 'lilo'. You can then shut down and put the other ram back in. > Should eliminate the kernel panic on boot. Another option is to > install the enterprise kernel. It's capable of addressing 1gb and > more of ram. BUT, you're better off performance wise usin the > regular kernel and limiting ram to 860. OTOH, I doubt you'll ever > need more than 512 anyhow ;) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] webmin
One very stupid question.. How do I launch webmin?? Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Issues with RAM
Thanks all. I used a non graphical boot menu and told it not to use a frame-buffer. It now boots fine, I only see 800mb of ram but hell its better than 512mb. Thanks again On Saturday, 21 June 2003 13:20, Derek Jennings wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:00:44 +0100 > > Tsyko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have 1GB of ram, when I try a fresh install of Mandrake, it flashes a > > message on the screen and then locks up with all the lights on the > > keybaord flashing.. > > > > > > It works if I take a dimm out of the machine reducing it to 512MB.. > > > > > > System configuration is > > > > Epox 4GEA+ Motherboard (Intel 845GE Chipset) > > P4 2.53 > > 1gb Samsung DDR 333 Ram > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > You are getting this because the default kernel is compiled to support RAM > up to 896MB To address larger memory you have to load with the 'Enterprise > kernel' (It is on your CDs) > > However do not be surprised if your system runs *slower* with the high > memory upport. This is because the kernel has to perform extra operations > to address large memory. > > derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hard drive partition sizes
On Saturday June 21 2003 09:46 am, eric huff wrote: > A! If i were, theoretically, wanting to just reformat /boot, > and rebuild it, how would i do that? > > I had this exact need last weekend... Disclaimer: I've never done this! But I believe you could do an install with the first CD, choosing only to reformat /boot. Why did you want to reformat /boot? If it was just a matter of links and files you messed up in /boot, I believe I'd just use 'rpm -ivh --force kernel...mdk...rpm' to replace the kernel links, files, and packages for the kernel you want, but is already installed. Reboot. Even tho there might be nothin wrong with the kernel, this will fix /boot and get the links properly pointing again. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 09:12:22AM -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote: > Also, it's correct practice to have master on the cable's > end connector, not the middle one. That I didn't know. Why? andy -- Andy Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you know what you're doing, you're not learning anything. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This ROCKS
El jue, 19-06-2003 a las 21:22, JoeHill escribió: > > http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ It sure does. I put Dachstein LEAF on a client's abandoned 486 and saved them from buying a hardware router/firewall. The client has 25 brand new Windoze machines and the LEAF box is the only reliable 'puter in the building. Ha! -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras http://srcopan.vze.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rox/pekwm crashes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] huff]$ more /etc/ld.so.conf /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/qt3/lib I checked those paths: all the links in them were good. What exactly am i looking for? I reran ldconfig just in case. I have to run, but i'll check back later to see if it helped. I'll have to investigate to see which libs/paths are with pekwm... Thanks for the tip, eric On Saturday 21 June 2003 02:55 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 16:44, eric huff wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > > > I am having a problem with pekwm crashing when i move files in > > Rox-filer. > > > > I boot in init 3, and when it crashes, i am back at the cli in > > text mode. I can happily startx again. > > > > I am guessing it has someting to do with the popup window you > > get when moving files. > > I would reckon that there's some library problems somewhere - > either with PekWM or with ROX; have you checked out all your > library paths lately? (check in the /etc/ld.so.conf file - and if > you edit that file, you have to run "ldconfig" again to rebuild > the lib path cache) > > And since it's NOT with other WM's, there could be an issue with > the PekWM libs or paths or what have you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to add session types to users
eric huff wrote: >>How can I add session types ( kde, gnome etc ) to users when you >>are not yet on desktop. >>I can drop to a root terminal, but what do I call ? >> >> > > > > > >>Where do I go to add these desktops to the login managers session >>menu ? >> >> > >I thin kthis is what you want. >Here are excerpts from emails on Speednix (using pekwm as an >example): > >-- > >From Derek: > >It is quite easy to get an entry in kdm,gdm,Xtart Just define a file >/etc/X11/wmsession.d/19pekwm > >Containing :- > >NAME=pekwm >ICON=pekwm.png >EXEC=/usr/bin/pekwm (or wherever your executable is) >DESC=Windowmanager based on the original blackbox-code >SCRIPT: >exec /usr/bin/pekwm > >Then pekwm will come up as an option in kdm etc as the 19th Window >Manager >(1 to 18 have already been defined by Mandrake) > >derek >- >From Todd: > >Sweet, now I have entries for fluxbox, xfce4, oroborus, and pekwm. > >I did have to go into /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc and add those to >the >list there. I couldn't find a program that would do it. I thought >maybe >it would scan /etc/X11/wmsession.d/ for you and update the list >automagiclly. > > That looks like it , thanks, I will look into it some and report. John Later = [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /mnt/ext2-vol4/etc/X11/wmsession.d [EMAIL PROTECTED] wmsession.d]# ls 01KDE 02GNOME 03WindowMaker 07IceWM So, these look to be the session file scripts that boot the desktops [EMAIL PROTECTED] wmsession.d]# cat 01KDE NAME=KDE ICON=kde-wmsession.xpm DESC=The K Desktop Environment EXEC=/usr/bin/startkde SCRIPT: exec /usr/bin/startkde The Kde script [EMAIL PROTECTED] wmsession.d]# cat 02GNOME NAME=GNOME ICON=gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png DESC=GNOME Environment EXEC=/usr/bin/startgnome SCRIPT: exec /usr/bin/startgnome the gnome script [EMAIL PROTECTED] wmsession.d]# cat 03WindowMaker NAME=WindowMaker ICON=wmaker-wmsession.xpm EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/startwindowmaker DESC=Window manager which emulates the look and feel of the NeXTSTEP (TM) graphical user interface SCRIPT: exec /usr/X11R6/bin/startwindowmaker the windowmaker script [EMAIL PROTECTED] wmsession.d]# cat 07IceWM NAME=IceWM ICON=icewm-wmsession.xpm EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/starticewm DESC=Lightweight desktop environment SCRIPT: exec /usr/X11R6/bin/starticewm the icewarm script So that's how to restore session types to login window then. Thanks everyone concerned, it's always nice to know how things work, and I'm about to make a persomal note of this for future reference. John === -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ACPI - ohhh no what have I done...
Inhabitant of Zion wrote: q - quit, without writing I thought it was :q! for quit? VIM - Vi IMproved ~ ~version 6.1.165 ~ by Bram Moolenaar et al. ~ Vim is open source and freely distributable ~ ~ Help poor children in Uganda! ~type :help iccf for information ~ ~type :q to exit ~type :help orfor on-line help ~type :help version6 for version info ~ ZZ does work, and since I've never used vi when I didn't have to, I remember the smallest set of commands I need. vi is great isn't it! I find even having used it a lot I still forget to press i before I start typing! Oh, yes, don't we all. Most annoying thing is when you do a load of changes and then go to save using shift ZZ and it tells you that it is a read only file! D'oh! Never managed to get it to overide the permissions and save anyway. SUre there must be a way. John -- Richard Urwin Yes, VI is certainly a one off, but it does work well, it's just very quirky, and you have to get used to it, so I don't tend to send complete newbies to it , unless they have had previous experience. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] K mail
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 05:17:26 -0700 Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just dumped the system (again) ((%-0 > lost evolution again using K Mail > question 1 is this plain text? Yes it is. You also shouldn't have a Reply-To, since then replies would go directly to you. Just leave that field blank. John Drouhard -- Sat Jun 21 09:59:28 UTC 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ACPI - ohhh no what have I done...
Richard Urwin wrote: On Saturday 21 Jun 2003 9:10 am, John Richard Smith wrote: On Friday 20 June 2003 10:05 am, Richard Urwin wrote: quick command ref: i - enter insert mode esc - exit insert mode x - delete character ZZ - save and exit According to running linux by O'reilly q - quit wq - save and exit Because: w - write, but you can continue editing q - quit, without writing ZZ does work, and since I've never used vi when I didn't have to, I remember the smallest set of commands I need. Fair enough, I too will remember that one for another time. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hard drive partition sizes
A! If i were, theoretically, wanting to just reformat /boot, and rebuild it, how would i do that? I had this exact need last weekend... eric On Saturday 21 June 2003 07:03 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Saturday June 21 2003 12:21 am, eric huff wrote: > > I'm still trying to figure out if /boot should be seperate, but > > here is an example of mine: > > > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/hda6 621M 86M 535M 14% / > > /dev/hda5 172M 6.4M 157M 4% /boot > > I've used a separate /boot since civileme recommended doin > so quite a while ago if your other partitions are journalized > fs's. He said to use ext2 or ext3 for /boot, specially with XFS > or ReisersFS / and other partitions. So I do, particularly since > civileme's specialty was HDD, fs's and partition QA. > > I've found it handy at install time too. I run cooker and > have a lot of kernels in /boot. Havin 'em in a separate partition > gives me the option to keep 'em, or go ahead and reformat /boot > to clear it out when various cooker iso's start comin out. Mines > 46MB, and over 20mb is used. Most people would only need about a > 20mb /boot. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bookmarks in Galeon
> > > You can open a folder in tabs, save a bookmark directly into > > > a subfolder, order them non-alphabetically, export them in > > > three different formats... > > > > Sounds very useful, but I don't see how to do this in 1.3.3. > > Could you give me an idiot's guide? > > > > TIA > > > > DougB > > It was from the bookmark manager, bookmarks -> 'add bookmark to', > or right-clicking in the bookmarks tree, but I'm still on 1.2.5. > See my reply to eric- if they really have taken these useful > options out, it might be worth installing the older one. > > Richard I mistakenly sent to Richard directly. Here's his reply to me, and at the bottom my results: > > > There's a choice in the preferences to ask the user when the > > > bookmark is saved. > > > > Which version are you using? I am on 1.3.3 > > > > I couldn't find that feature in the prefs. > > > > Which section is it in? (there aren't that many but i am > > sometimes a bad seracher..) > > > > thanks, > > eric > > v. 1.2.5, it's settings -> preferences -> bookmarks -> when > adding bookmarks -> ask user for title. > > If they've taken it out, they're crazy - simplicity and > useability are good, but too little choice isn't. And my reply: Hmmm... For me it's Edit -> preferences -> General Appearance User Interface Filtering Network I think maybe they took a step backwards... eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems
On Saturday June 21 2003 04:59 am, C. Tresenriter wrote: > > and check that your drive jumpers are in the proper > > positions (looks like it is the master (hda) on the first ide > > (ide0). > Oh man I didn't even look at the jumper - thought default was > the master position - actually it's cable select. Yeah CS won't do :) But also check that you don't have two different master positions for the jumper. Some drives have different positions depending on if you have a slave on the same cable. Also, it's correct practice to have master on the cable's end connector, not the middle one. Actually I'm surprised you got as far as you did with it set to CS -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ACPI - ohhh no what have I done...
* Inhabitant of Zion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030621 07:13]: > vi is great isn't it! I find even having used it a lot I still forget to press i > before I start typing! > > Most annoying thing is when you do a load of changes and then go to save using shift > ZZ and it tells you that it is a read only file! D'oh! > > Never managed to get it to overide the permissions and save anyway. SUre there must > be a way. Have you tried :w! Or, if you do not have write permission and are not the owner of the file, you can try saving it as a different filename: :w newfilename If that doesn't work, it probably means that you don't have write permissions in the directory. I would then switch to a different console (or xterm) and fix the ownerships/permissions, and then save the file. If there is an easier way, I don't know it. -- Jan Wilson, SysAdmin _/*]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Corozal Junior College | |:' corozal.com corozal.bz Corozal Town, Belize | /' chetumal.com & linux.bz Reg. Linux user #151611 |_/ Network, PHP, Perl, HTML Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Issues with RAM
On Saturday June 21 2003 06:00 am, Tsyko wrote: > I have 1GB of ram, when I try a fresh install of Mandrake, it > flashes a message on the screen and then locks up with all the > lights on the keybaord flashing.. > > > It works if I take a dimm out of the machine reducing it to > 512MB.. Add 'mem=860M' to your lilo.conf's append line, and then run 'lilo'. You can then shut down and put the other ram back in. Should eliminate the kernel panic on boot. Another option is to install the enterprise kernel. It's capable of addressing 1gb and more of ram. BUT, you're better off performance wise usin the regular kernel and limiting ram to 860. OTOH, I doubt you'll ever need more than 512 anyhow ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IMAP trouble (Evolution), OT Thunderbird
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:22:21 +0100 Douglas Bainbridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 23:01, Todd Slater wrote: > > > > > It's not quite ready for prime-time for one simple reason: it can't > > pass URL's to a browser, so you can't just click a link in your > > email and have it open in your browser of choice. For me that makes > > it unusable. > > > > > Todd > > > > Odd! I use Evo in just that way since Evo 1.2.7. When I migrated to > MD9.1 my browser for Evo 1.3.3 was set by the system to Mozilla rather > than my preferred Galeon. Corrected that using a tip from one of > Stephen's always (well, nearly always!) useful mails. > > DougB The above was in reference to MozillaThunderbird :) Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Issues with RAM
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:00:44 +0100 Tsyko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have 1GB of ram, when I try a fresh install of Mandrake, it flashes > a message on the screen and then locks up with all the lights on the > keybaord flashing.. This is an issue with the 9.1 installation see http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/errata.php3 Charles -- Of all forms of caution, caution in love is the most fatal. - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.1mdk http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] looking for a tv card for Linux
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 22:02, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Friday 20 Jun 2003 5:13 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> > Anne Wilson wrote:
> > >On Friday 28 Mar 2003 3:27 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> > >>Does anyone know of a digital decoder tv card ?
> > >>
> > >>John
> > >
> > >John - I've got a Hauppage Nova-T card on order. I'll let you
> > > know how it goes - but it may not be fast. They're not
> > > guaranteeing to deliver before I go on holiday, as one of the
> > > items I ordered is out of stock.
> > >
> > >Anne
> >
> > Anne, is this digital terrestrial or digital satalite tv card ?
> >
> Digital terrestrial, I believe.
>
> > either way I'm extremely interested.
> > How much and where from,
> > will do teletext ?
> >
> You can get all the details from ccl's site. I think you know it?
>
> www.cclcomputers.co.uk
>
> Anne
>
Is this card supported by linux? I was given a nova-t usb a while back..
which doesn't work under linux.. and that annoyed me.. would be keen to
get the nova-t pci if it works easily on mandrake.
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Re: [newbie] hard drive partition sizes
On Saturday June 21 2003 12:21 am, eric huff wrote: > I'm still trying to figure out if /boot should be seperate, but > here is an example of mine: > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda6 621M 86M 535M 14% / > /dev/hda5 172M 6.4M 157M 4% /boot I've used a separate /boot since civileme recommended doin so quite a while ago if your other partitions are journalized fs's. He said to use ext2 or ext3 for /boot, specially with XFS or ReisersFS / and other partitions. So I do, particularly since civileme's specialty was HDD, fs's and partition QA. I've found it handy at install time too. I run cooker and have a lot of kernels in /boot. Havin 'em in a separate partition gives me the option to keep 'em, or go ahead and reformat /boot to clear it out when various cooker iso's start comin out. Mines 46MB, and over 20mb is used. Most people would only need about a 20mb /boot. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RTCW on linux (well, Mandrake to be more specific)
On 21 Jun 2003 07:42:07 -0400 ed tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > well if "downstream" is the way most everyone else is going, and you > say; "Now I'm glad I was treated as an outcast in school, I wouldn't > want to be those "normal" people for anything in the world." > > normal folks, go with (and are) the flow, you, against the flow > (swimming upstream). whatever. think what you like. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Issues with RAM
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:00:44 +0100 Tsyko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have 1GB of ram, when I try a fresh install of Mandrake, it flashes a > message on the screen and then locks up with all the lights on the keybaord > flashing.. > > > It works if I take a dimm out of the machine reducing it to 512MB.. > > > System configuration is > > Epox 4GEA+ Motherboard (Intel 845GE Chipset) > P4 2.53 > 1gb Samsung DDR 333 Ram > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance. > > You are getting this because the default kernel is compiled to support RAM up to 896MB To address larger memory you have to load with the 'Enterprise kernel' (It is on your CDs) However do not be surprised if your system runs *slower* with the high memory upport. This is because the kernel has to perform extra operations to address large memory. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RTCW on linux (well, Mandrake to be more specific)
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 21:42, ed tharp wrote: > I have a story about that. As a teenager, (having spent most my life in > the Fla.Keys) I, and most all my friends were excellent swimmers, and > water polo was the game most often played. We also liked to play "tag" > on a bridge with a "catwalk" (a walkway for fishing) that had a strong > current running under, that got stronger as you got closer to the middle > of the channel. We would run out the cat walk and jump in when "it" got > close, and swim back to shore fighting the current. one day when I was > about 14, we had spent the afternoon playing tag, and after we left, > some tourist had tried to swim back in from where we were jumping in and > swimming. needless to say, he got his name in the paper, and his wife > was quoted as saying he just jumped in where these kids had been jumping > in, but the current must have gotten worse since it carried him right > out to sea. I decided that night, that just because _I_ like to swim > upstream, does not mean I should let others see me swim upstream and > think that they can do it too, so we never played tag during the > daylight hours like that again, at least at that bridge. I'd reckon south of Jewfish creek, then ya? -- Sat Jun 21 22:05:01 EST 2003 22:05:01 up 7:15, 4 users, load average: 0.49, 0.23, 0.19 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * I have no right, by anything I do or say, to demean a human being in his own eyes. What matters is not what I think of him; it is what he thinks of himself. To undermine a man's self-respect is a sin. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Issues with RAM
It just flashes the message on the screen briefly, the screen goes black and then all he keyboard lights flash. (The machine locks up.) On Saturday 21 Jun 2003 11:50 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 21:00, Tsyko wrote: > > I have 1GB of ram, when I try a fresh install of Mandrake, it flashes a > > message on the screen and then locks up with all the lights on the > > keybaord flashing.. > > > > > > It works if I take a dimm out of the machine reducing it to 512MB.. > > > > > > System configuration is > > > > Epox 4GEA+ Motherboard (Intel 845GE Chipset) > > P4 2.53 > > 1gb Samsung DDR 333 Ram > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > We've noticed that by forcing particular kernel parameters during the > installation, especially with RAM, can alleviate installation problems; > I'm really rather surprised that this is happening, but firstly, what is > the message that you're given? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] REPLY FROM AUTHOR: Are all writers submitting to FUD
On Saturday 21 Jun 2003 12:53 pm, Robin Turner wrote: > Another interesting feature of the article is his attitude to > programmers (who, as he says, love Linux). They are seen as a > necessary but inherently untrustworthy element in a business > organisation, and putting software too much in the hands of > programmers would be dangerous - much better to buy shrink-wrapped > software, and limit your geeks to fixing it when it goes wrong and > writing templates for Word. Ah! Software in the hands of salesmen. The root cause of all bloat and creeping requirements, leading to missed deadlines and buggy releases. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ACPI - ohhh no what have I done...
> q - quit, without writing I thought it was :q! for quit? > > ZZ does work, and since I've never used vi when I didn't have to, I > remember the smallest set of commands I need. > vi is great isn't it! I find even having used it a lot I still forget to press i before I start typing! Most annoying thing is when you do a load of changes and then go to save using shift ZZ and it tells you that it is a read only file! D'oh! Never managed to get it to overide the permissions and save anyway. SUre there must be a way. John > -- > Richard Urwin > > -- Lead me not into tepmtation - I can find my own way thanks! MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 92791912 -- Lead me not into tepmtation - I can find my own way thanks! MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 92791912 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gcc-3.3.tar.bz2
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:31:20 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi ; > I downladed this (gcc-3.3.tar.bz2) from a mirror site in minneapolis. But > how do i access it? I want to have c, c++, compilers to compile programs. > I've tried tar, gzip, gunzip, etc, nothing seems to work. It's on my > desktop. > Thanx for your help again. > > Ib > What is wrong with the gcc supplied with your Mandrake system? Open Mandrake Software Manager and type gcc in the search box. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]OT , Chess Game: a personal plea/whine/rant/whatever
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Robin Turner wrote: Incidentally, my "Mandrake experience" has been greatly enriched since I added contrib sources to urpmi. Contrib is where you find the funny, quirky or just plain obscure programs. Sometimes you might miss them because they have a boring-looking name; for example, who'd have guessed that "tdfsb" was a funky 3D file browser that transforms your filesystem into a world reminiscent of Tron or Neuromancer that you can fly around in. I've wasted hours playing with this little program already. Sir Robin It is pretty wild. Is there a way to slow it down? The direction keys make you move very fast. Is there a manual telling you the keyboard shortcuts for it? There's no manual, but if you press the "h" key you get a list of key-bindings. It's also worth looking at the .tdfsb file and editing it to your taste. Sir Robin -- "Some guy breaking into a government computer system and wreaking havoc makes for a more interesting movie plot than some guy writing device drivers. It's hard to work in a good 10-minutes car chase scene with some guy who writes device drivers..." - tjc, post to LWN Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] REPLY FROM AUTHOR: Are all writers submitting to FUD
David E Fox wrote: not ready for the enterprise--as in where it can't compete--then there would be something to talk about. But as it was, the column was just a Linux being ready for the "enterprise" is not the question. The question is rather "is the enterprise ready for Linux"? Mainframe-level entities (JD Edwards/People Soft/ SAP) software could probably run on a beefed-up Linux machine (our boat anchor at Revo ran JD Endwards on AS/400 and had gigs of RAM). Linux, and the open source movement in general, is a classic example of paradigm shift. Management doesn't get paradigm shift all that often. The one big obstacle to open source / Linux is the idea that anything one gets from the "internet" could be loaded with virii and g-d knows what else. Ergo, all software has to be purchased shrink-wrapped with manuals, support contracts, licences, and etc. And if Purchasing doesn't know about you, they can't buy you. I ran into this attitude back in the days of Denial Of Service (DOS) shareware. There were quite a few useful tools back then -- management would say "virus" if you tried to use them. Good points. Another interesting feature of the article is his attitude to programmers (who, as he says, love Linux). They are seen as a necessary but inherently untrustworthy element in a business organisation, and putting software too much in the hands of programmers would be dangerous - much better to buy shrink-wrapped software, and limit your geeks to fixing it when it goes wrong and writing templates for Word. Robin -- "Some guy breaking into a government computer system and wreaking havoc makes for a more interesting movie plot than some guy writing device drivers. It's hard to work in a good 10-minutes car chase scene with some guy who writes device drivers..." - tjc, post to LWN Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RTCW on linux (well, Mandrake to be more specific)
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 18:52, JoeHill wrote: > On 20 Jun 2003 18:39:20 -0400 > ed tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > When you spend all that time and energy swimming upstream > > Who says I'm swimmin upstream? well if "downstream" is the way most everyone else is going, and you say; "Now I'm glad I was treated as an outcast in school, I wouldn't want to be those "normal" people for anything in the world." normal folks, go with (and are) the flow, you, against the flow (swimming upstream). I have a story about that. As a teenager, (having spent most my life in the Fla.Keys) I, and most all my friends were excellent swimmers, and water polo was the game most often played. We also liked to play "tag" on a bridge with a "catwalk" (a walkway for fishing) that had a strong current running under, that got stronger as you got closer to the middle of the channel. We would run out the cat walk and jump in when "it" got close, and swim back to shore fighting the current. one day when I was about 14, we had spent the afternoon playing tag, and after we left, some tourist had tried to swim back in from where we were jumping in and swimming. needless to say, he got his name in the paper, and his wife was quoted as saying he just jumped in where these kids had been jumping in, but the current must have gotten worse since it carried him right out to sea. I decided that night, that just because _I_ like to swim upstream, does not mean I should let others see me swim upstream and think that they can do it too, so we never played tag during the daylight hours like that again, at least at that bridge. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Told ya, don't trust IBM
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:22:43 -0400, JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:21:34 -0400 > Thomas Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > but I get concerned that any time the government gets involved > > One of my favourite quotes, I still have no idea where it came from: > > "When I hear the word 'government', I reach for my gun." Herman Goering said "When I hear the word 'culture', I reach for my Browning". Richard -- Registered Linux user 246658 at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:30:13 +0100, John Richard Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Langsley T Russell wrote:
>
> > OK John.
> >
> > I've done everything up to " /then copy your new fstab file to /etc
> > directory./" The only way I could find to change the name of the
> > fstab file to fstab1 was to log on as root. When logged on as root
> > none of my desktop files from my standard session are available. So
> > there is nothing to copy. when I log back on as user I am denied
> > permission to edit the etc file. If I can't manage to do that I
> > guess I'll have to undo the name change to fstab/fstab1. how can I
> > accomplish this crucial step?
> >
> > LTR }}:{(
> >>
> Can you copy to a floppy,
>
> Better still copy new fstab to one of those fat32/vfat partitions that
> you already have a line in your existing fstab, then logon as root,
> then you should be able to make the necessary change in /etc
> directory. All this ought to be done as root anyway. you are
> constructing system files for universal use, not some oddjob user
> task.
>
> I could get you into a root terminal but then you will have to issue
> root commands which is more difficult for the newbie. Can you logon as
> root to a root desktop ?
>
> John
If you log in as root, open an editor and go to /home//Desktop to
find your file?
Or log in as a user, open a terminal, 'su' to root. Then get clever
with 'cp' and 'mv', or run your editor from the terminal (so it runs
as root) and make changes that way.
Richard
--
Registered Linux user 246658 at
http://counter.li.org
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Re: [newbie] Bookmarks in Galeon
On 21 Jun 2003 10:21:39 +0100, Douglas Bainbridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 14:13, RichardA wrote: > > > > > .. bookmarking in Galeon. You > > can open a folder in tabs, save a bookmark directly into a > > subfolder, order them non-alphabetically, export them in three > > different formats... > > > > > Sounds very useful, but I don't see how to do this in 1.3.3. Could you > give me an idiot's guide? > > TIA > > DougB It was from the bookmark manager, bookmarks -> 'add bookmark to', or right-clicking in the bookmarks tree, but I'm still on 1.2.5. See my reply to eric- if they really have taken these useful options out, it might be worth installing the older one. Richard -- Registered Linux user 246658 at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Issues with RAM
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 21:00, Tsyko wrote: > I have 1GB of ram, when I try a fresh install of Mandrake, it flashes a > message on the screen and then locks up with all the lights on the keybaord > flashing.. > > > It works if I take a dimm out of the machine reducing it to 512MB.. > > > System configuration is > > Epox 4GEA+ Motherboard (Intel 845GE Chipset) > P4 2.53 > 1gb Samsung DDR 333 Ram > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance. We've noticed that by forcing particular kernel parameters during the installation, especially with RAM, can alleviate installation problems; I'm really rather surprised that this is happening, but firstly, what is the message that you're given? -- Sat Jun 21 20:45:00 EST 2003 20:45:00 up 5:55, 4 users, load average: 0.21, 0.18, 0.31 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * His designs were strictly honourable, as the phrase is: that is, to rob a lady of her fortune by way of marriage. -- Henry Fielding, "Tom Jones" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RC SCRIPTS?
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 15:17, Philip wrote: > I am trying to install PortSentry in Mandrake 9.1 but am getting an error > message, saying that PortSentry needs rc-scripts, conflicts detected and it > aborts. Any ideas?? > > Thanks again people! No to use the old "RTFM" standby answer, but did you in fact read very carefully through the README and the README.INSTALL file yet? -- Sat Jun 21 19:50:01 EST 2003 19:50:01 up 5:00, 3 users, load average: 0.13, 0.20, 0.11 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * If you would keep a secret from an enemy, tell it not to a friend. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install problems
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:55:46 -0700 Erylon Hines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and check that your drive jumpers are in the proper > positions (looks like it is the master (hda) on the first ide (ide0). Oh man I didn't even look at the jumper - thought default was the master position - actually it's cable select. Thanks for the kick start >From my brand spankin' new 9.1 install, Curt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Told ya, don't trust IBM
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:22:43 -0400 JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: >On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:21:34 -0400 >Thomas Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > >> but I get concerned that any time the government gets involved > >One of my favourite quotes, I still have no idea where it came from: > >"When I hear the word 'government', I reach for my gun." == I believe it was Herman Goering who said, "When I hear the word 'culture' I reach for my gun." Might have been Joseph Goebbels ;) Mike -- "The man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life" --Muhammad Ali Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rox/pekwm crashes
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 16:44, eric huff wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I am having a problem with pekwm crashing when i move files in > Rox-filer. > > I boot in init 3, and when it crashes, i am back at the cli in text > mode. I can happily startx again. > > I am guessing it has someting to do with the popup window you get > when moving files. I would reckon that there's some library problems somewhere - either with PekWM or with ROX; have you checked out all your library paths lately? (check in the /etc/ld.so.conf file - and if you edit that file, you have to run "ldconfig" again to rebuild the lib path cache) And since it's NOT with other WM's, there could be an issue with the PekWM libs or paths or what have you. -- Sat Jun 21 19:50:01 EST 2003 19:50:01 up 5:00, 3 users, load average: 0.13, 0.20, 0.11 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * If you would keep a secret from an enemy, tell it not to a friend. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Issues with RAM
I have 1GB of ram, when I try a fresh install of Mandrake, it flashes a message on the screen and then locks up with all the lights on the keybaord flashing.. It works if I take a dimm out of the machine reducing it to 512MB.. System configuration is Epox 4GEA+ Motherboard (Intel 845GE Chipset) P4 2.53 1gb Samsung DDR 333 Ram Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ACPI - ohhh no what have I done...
On Saturday 21 Jun 2003 9:10 am, John Richard Smith wrote: > >On Friday 20 June 2003 10:05 am, Richard Urwin wrote: > >>quick command ref: > >>i - enter insert mode > >>esc - exit insert mode > >>x - delete character > >>ZZ - save and exit > > According to running linux by O'reilly > q - quit > wq - save and exit Because: w - write, but you can continue editing q - quit, without writing ZZ does work, and since I've never used vi when I didn't have to, I remember the smallest set of commands I need. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
