Re: [newbie] Boot GUI

2003-09-19 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Russ wrote:

Hi All,

When I boot the comp it boots to a GUI screen that displays the users. 
You choose one then enter the password.

okay, last time I installed Linux (md9.1) I stumbled onto something 
that allowed me to change the gui style (not just the color). One was 
a Gnome style, one was a KDE style and a couple of others. I cannot 
find this again and I do not like the style I have.

If anyone out there has any idea what I am babbling about, could you 
pleeese tell me where it is at?

Thanks
Russ 


I think you may be talking about GDM.  You may be able to change it in 
the Mandrake Control Center.  Here's some shots of the GDM themes in 
contrib for 9.2.

http://john.keller.free.fr/

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Re: [newbie] Boot GUI

2003-09-19 Thread Charlie M.
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September 19, 2003 11:19 am, Russ wrote:

> No, that isn't it either. I have been all through that one. It seems
> like I am missing something in "login manager". When I boot to the login
> page I have now it does not allow you to typy in anything. The only
> options are those you have configured and all you can do is double click
> on one (root is not an option) then it takes you to the password screen.
> The one I want allows you to type in a user so you can access any hidden
> ones (like root). I'd hate to have to reinstall this bugger just to get
> a different login screen, sheeesh.
>
> Thanks
> Russ
> >>No that is not it. The deal I remember gives you 4 options. I have been
> >>tinkering with the setting you mentioned but all it does is change the
> >>color and texture. Now it is entirely possible that I am not doing
> >>something right, but it worked for me before and I am about pulling my
> >>hair out trying to find it again.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>Russ

Russ;

What you're looking for is the display manager isn't it? If so it'd be in the 
Mandrake Control Center under the "System" section, "Choose display manager." 
You're probably using the mdkkdm and the one you're used to and asking about 
it is the kdm, or default kde display manager.

Give that a try, it sounds like what you want.

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[newbie] mandrake 9.1 ppc problems on an ibook

2003-09-19 Thread MACY, NIALLEN C
i have installed mandrake 9.1 ppc on my ibook v2.3 and when ever i go to boot it tells 
be that the filesystem is unknown or corrupt.  so far i have installed it 3 times with 
different configs and got the same error message.  does anyone know whats going on?

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Re: [newbie] xcdroast error

2003-09-19 Thread Sharrea Day
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:30, Eric Huff wrote:
> > I was burning ISOs of redhat 8.0 to a cd using xcdroast and got this
> > error:
> >
> > cdrecord: WARNING: Drive returns wrong startsec (0)(using -150
> > Writing pregap for track 1 at -150
> > Starting new track at sector: 0
> >
> > The burn completed but I'm wondering if the cd's are corrupted
> > somehow. So far I've burned 2 of the 5 ISOs and both produced this
> > error. I'd appreciate it if anyone could clue me in on what's going on
> > and advise me should I try to install redhat with them or paint
> > reindeer on them and set them around the coffee table at Christmas?
>
> Well, i got the same thing, and didn' tknow of any problems.   IIRC i
> googled a lot, and other people get that, too.
>
> Hopefully someone here has a better answer
>
> eric

Well I'm real glad to hear I'm not the only one.  I had 7 coasters and 
thought it had something to do with that error when trying to copy a music 
CD.

So can someone please tell me if there is such a thing as "DATA ONLY" CDRs?  
Just thought perhaps that's the reason for the coasters...?

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Re: [newbie] Boot GUI

2003-09-19 Thread Russ
No, that isn't it either. I have been all through that one. It seems 
like I am missing something in "login manager". When I boot to the login 
page I have now it does not allow you to typy in anything. The only 
options are those you have configured and all you can do is double click 
on one (root is not an option) then it takes you to the password screen. 
The one I want allows you to type in a user so you can access any hidden 
ones (like root). I'd hate to have to reinstall this bugger just to get 
a different login screen, sheeesh.

Thanks
Russ
Dennis Myers wrote:

On Friday 19 September 2003 10:50 am, Russ wrote:
 

Hi Dennis,

No that is not it. The deal I remember gives you 4 options. I have been
tinkering with the setting you mentioned but all it does is change the
color and texture. Now it is entirely possible that I am not doing
something right, but it worked for me before and I am about pulling my
hair out trying to find it again.
Thanks
Russ
Dennis Myers wrote:
   

On Friday 19 September 2003 10:04 am, Russ wrote:
 

Hi All,

When I boot the comp it boots to a GUI screen that displays the users.
You choose one then enter the password.
okay, last time I installed Linux (md9.1) I stumbled onto something that
allowed me to change the gui style (not just the color). One was a Gnome
style, one was a KDE style and a couple of others. I cannot find this
again and I do not like the style I have.
If anyone out there has any idea what I am babbling about, could you
pleeese tell me where it is at?
Thanks
Russ
   

Russ, go into the KDE Control Center and select System> Login Manager. 
The first tab has GUI and color scheme, is that what you want?
 

Ok, how about "drakboot" from a console or in the MCC "Boot" to do how your 
system boots.
 




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Re: [newbie] Damn "newbie" user!

2003-09-19 Thread Avi Schwartz
On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 11:28 PM, Eric Huff wrote:

Whenever I send an email to Mandrake newbie list I get this:


Short Message delivery report
From: Sms Message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Today 00:52:17
There is no such user (newbie).
We all get that.  No on eknows who it comes from (they aren't
subscribed, but must have forwarded the list mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
You'll just have to filter it...

eric

There are ways the list managers can find out which email is the 
offender and remove that email.  To do so, they will have to send a 
probe email to every subscriber on the list using a from address or 
reply address to which is unique and then wait for the email to be 
bounced by the sms user.  Since the email is unique, they will know the 
offending email.  I have seen this done on other lists.

Avi


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Re: [newbie] Damn "newbie" user!

2003-09-19 Thread Eric Huff
> Whenever I send an email to Mandrake newbie list I get this:
> 
> 
> Short Message delivery report
> 
> From: Sms Message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Today 00:52:17
> There is no such user (newbie).

We all get that.  No on eknows who it comes from (they aren't
subscribed, but must have forwarded the list mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

You'll just have to filter it...

eric

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Re: [newbie] xcdroast error

2003-09-19 Thread Eric Huff
> I was burning ISOs of redhat 8.0 to a cd using xcdroast and got this
> error:
> 
> cdrecord: WARNING: Drive returns wrong startsec (0)(using -150
> Writing pregap for track 1 at -150
> Starting new track at sector: 0
> 
> The burn completed but I'm wondering if the cd's are corrupted
> somehow. So far I've burned 2 of the 5 ISOs and both produced this
> error. I'd appreciate it if anyone could clue me in on what's going on
> and advise me should I try to install redhat with them or paint
> reindeer on them and set them around the coffee table at Christmas?

Well, i got the same thing, and didn' tknow of any problems.   IIRC i
googled a lot, and other people get that, too.

Hopefully someone here has a better answer

eric

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Re: [newbie] xcdroast error

2003-09-19 Thread Dennis Myers
On Friday 19 September 2003 11:05 pm, Scott wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I was burning ISOs of redhat 8.0 to a cd using xcdroast and got this
> error:
>
> cdrecord: WARNING: Drive returns wrong startsec (0)(using -150
> Writing pregap for track 1 at -150
> Starting new track at sector: 0
>
> The burn completed but I'm wondering if the cd's are corrupted somehow.
> So far I've burned 2 of the 5 ISOs and both produced this error.
> I'd appreciate it if anyone could clue me in on what's going on and
> advise me should I try to install redhat with them or paint reindeer on
> them and set them around the coffee table at Christmas?


I get the same message in k3b and cdbakeoven, but my iso are all fine. HTH
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Re: [newbie] Boot GUI

2003-09-19 Thread Dennis Myers
On Friday 19 September 2003 10:50 am, Russ wrote:
> Hi Dennis,
>
> No that is not it. The deal I remember gives you 4 options. I have been
> tinkering with the setting you mentioned but all it does is change the
> color and texture. Now it is entirely possible that I am not doing
> something right, but it worked for me before and I am about pulling my
> hair out trying to find it again.
>
> Thanks
> Russ
>
> Dennis Myers wrote:
> >On Friday 19 September 2003 10:04 am, Russ wrote:
> >>Hi All,
> >>
> >>When I boot the comp it boots to a GUI screen that displays the users.
> >>You choose one then enter the password.
> >>
> >>okay, last time I installed Linux (md9.1) I stumbled onto something that
> >>allowed me to change the gui style (not just the color). One was a Gnome
> >>style, one was a KDE style and a couple of others. I cannot find this
> >>again and I do not like the style I have.
> >>
> >>If anyone out there has any idea what I am babbling about, could you
> >>pleeese tell me where it is at?
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>Russ
> >
> >Russ, go into the KDE Control Center and select System> Login Manager. 
> > The first tab has GUI and color scheme, is that what you want?
Ok, how about "drakboot" from a console or in the MCC "Boot" to do how your 
system boots.
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[newbie] Damn "newbie" user!

2003-09-19 Thread Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas
What's up?

Whenever I send an email to Mandrake newbie list I get this:


Short Message delivery report

From: Sms Message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Today 00:52:17
There is no such user (newbie).
===


Can anyone help me outa this?

Ricardo Castanho


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[newbie] xcdroast error

2003-09-19 Thread Scott
Hello,

I was burning ISOs of redhat 8.0 to a cd using xcdroast and got this
error:

cdrecord: WARNING: Drive returns wrong startsec (0)(using -150
Writing pregap for track 1 at -150
Starting new track at sector: 0

The burn completed but I'm wondering if the cd's are corrupted somehow.
So far I've burned 2 of the 5 ISOs and both produced this error.
I'd appreciate it if anyone could clue me in on what's going on and
advise me should I try to install redhat with them or paint reindeer on
them and set them around the coffee table at Christmas?

Thanks,
Scott

Here's the complete output:

Calling: /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.98/bin/xcdrwrap CDRECORD dev= "0,3,0"
fs=4096k driveropts=burnfree -v -useinfo speed=12 -dao -eject -pad -data
"/home/scott/redhat8/psyche-i386-disc2.iso" ...

scsidev: '0,3,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 3 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
pregap1: -1
Cdrecord 1.11a32 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg
Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
Using libscg version 'schily-0.6'
Driveropts: 'burnfree'
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 1
Vendor_info: 'MSI '
Identifikation : 'CD-RW MS-8332   '
Revision   : '150D'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P
RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 1806336 = 1764 KB
FIFO size  : 4194304 = 4096 KB
Track 01: data   635 MB padsize:   30 KB
Total size:  729 MB (72:17.90) = 325343 sectors
Lout start:  730 MB (72:19/68) = 325343 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
Indicated writing power: 6
Reference speed: 2
Is not unrestricted
Is erasable
ATIP start of lead in:  -11835 (97:24/15)
ATIP start of lead out: 337350 (75:00/00)
speed low: 0 speed high: 4
power mult factor: 3 5
recommended erase/write power: 3
A2 values: 56 43 23
Disk type:Phase change
Manuf. index: 24
Manufacturer: SONY Corporation
Blocks total: 337350 Blocks current: 337350 Blocks remaining: 12007
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real SAO mode for single session.
0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ...
input buffer ready.
BURN-Free is ON.
Performing OPC...
Sending CUE sheet...
cdrecord: WARNING: Drive returns wrong startsec (0) using -150
Writing pregap for track 1 at -150
Starting new track at sector: 0

Track 01: writing  30 KB of pad data.
Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 666271744/666302464 (325343
sectors).
Writing  time: 1086.080s
Fixating...
Trouble flushing the cache
cdrecord: Input/output error. flush cache: scsi sendcmd: no error
Fixating time:   51.941s
CDB:  35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x02 Qual 0x00 (no seek complete) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
cmd finished after 51.939s timeout 200s
Average write speed   4.0x.
cdrecord: fifo had 10495 puts and 10495 gets.
Min drive buffer fill was 96%
cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 10430 times full, min fill was 98%.
 




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Re: [newbie] Boot GUI

2003-09-19 Thread Russ
Hi Dennis,

No that is not it. The deal I remember gives you 4 options. I have been 
tinkering with the setting you mentioned but all it does is change the 
color and texture. Now it is entirely possible that I am not doing 
something right, but it worked for me before and I am about pulling my 
hair out trying to find it again.

Thanks
Russ
Dennis Myers wrote:

On Friday 19 September 2003 10:04 am, Russ wrote:
 

Hi All,

When I boot the comp it boots to a GUI screen that displays the users.
You choose one then enter the password.
okay, last time I installed Linux (md9.1) I stumbled onto something that
allowed me to change the gui style (not just the color). One was a Gnome
style, one was a KDE style and a couple of others. I cannot find this
again and I do not like the style I have.
If anyone out there has any idea what I am babbling about, could you
pleeese tell me where it is at?
Thanks
Russ
   

Russ, go into the KDE Control Center and select System> Login Manager.  The 
first tab has GUI and color scheme, is that what you want?
 




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Re: [newbie] Microsoft Junk Mail - Virus?

2003-09-19 Thread Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas
On Friday 19 September 2003 04:24, Margot wrote:

Hi!

> I've had a couple of these before in the last couple of weeks, but
> eleven at once? That's excessive! Anyone else had these?
> Margot

I've got 12 so far!

All of them with the:  Worm/Gibe.C.1 virus

My antivirus working just fine! 

rgs

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Re: [newbie] USB mass-storage: HELP!

2003-09-19 Thread Iwan Binanto
You right, I have a /dev/sda. I was creating an fstab
entry, and I did a step by step howto mounting a
mass-storage. But I still cannot download and mounting
this camera as a mass-storage. 
My machine say (on monitor) that it cannot detecting a
valid fs (--FAT ??). I tried to use
vfat,autofs,ntfs,ext3,ext2,and more. And the answer is
same:cannot detect a valid fs. 
H 
Make me headache and broken heart.
*Or maybe "usb-storage module" not yet supporting my
camera ???

Btw, Thank's very much.

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> On Thursday 18 September 2003 08:44 pm, Iwan Binanto
> wrote:
> > --- Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Have you tried Gphoto?
> >
> > Yes. And, still cannot download to my computer. I
> > confuse  about mounting this camera to my
> computer,
> > because my camera detected as mass-storage.
> 
> You need to mount the camera as a drive and then
> simply copy the files over.  
> Once you plug the camera in, you should get a new
> dev called /dev/sda.  You 
> can mount that to /mnt/camera by issuing the command
> directly, or creating an 
> fstab entry and then once you mount the drive you
> can simply open it with 
> Konqueror.
> 
> At least, that is how my Kodak works.
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Re: [newbie] Boot GUI

2003-09-19 Thread Dennis Myers
On Friday 19 September 2003 10:04 am, Russ wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> When I boot the comp it boots to a GUI screen that displays the users.
> You choose one then enter the password.
>
> okay, last time I installed Linux (md9.1) I stumbled onto something that
> allowed me to change the gui style (not just the color). One was a Gnome
> style, one was a KDE style and a couple of others. I cannot find this
> again and I do not like the style I have.
>
> If anyone out there has any idea what I am babbling about, could you
> pleeese tell me where it is at?
>
> Thanks
> Russ
Russ, go into the KDE Control Center and select System> Login Manager.  The 
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Re: [newbie] USB mass-storage: HELP!

2003-09-19 Thread Iwan Binanto
Oooo ..
Thank's for your explanation. Now I know what that's
mean. Thank's.

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> > >
> > > Iwan Binanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > > > I'm confuse. Somebody, please help me.
> > >
> > > Someone might, if you post a new thread. Do
> *not*
> > > hijack existing
> > > threads.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> >
> > I'm sorry if I have a mistake. But I'm not a
> terrorist
> > I just a newbie who know nothing. I don't
> understand
> > what you mean about "hijack".
> 
> The attached file should explain to you.
> 
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> > If you use Reply but change the subject, you are
> hijacking.  Many of
> use prefer to read messages threaded.  When threads
> are sorted they 
> use a couple of headers (you can see these if you
> enable Full Headers 
> in your mail reader) called Message ID and
> References.  This means 
> that your new subject is seen as part of the
> original thread, which 
> makes it extremely difficult to follow.
> 
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> many people 
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[newbie] Boot GUI

2003-09-19 Thread Russ
Hi All,

When I boot the comp it boots to a GUI screen that displays the users. 
You choose one then enter the password.

okay, last time I installed Linux (md9.1) I stumbled onto something that 
allowed me to change the gui style (not just the color). One was a Gnome 
style, one was a KDE style and a couple of others. I cannot find this 
again and I do not like the style I have.

If anyone out there has any idea what I am babbling about, could you 
pleeese tell me where it is at?

Thanks
Russ

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Re: [newbie] Microsoft Junk Mail - Virus?

2003-09-19 Thread HaywireMac
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:52:22 +1000
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> I grabbed the latest one last week and put it in place 

ah, yes I could've checked the version number...duhthanks. Putting
it in place now...

> (as if that's rocket science) and my SysOp's email is showing what
> it's catching (did you set yours up with all the variables and the
> likes, correctly?);

of course! ;-) there's only 2 or somethin' I'm not a *complete* idiot,
only partial...LOL!

> I've gotten hit (if you want to call it that) quite a bit since
> yesterday - mostly from one domain (cox.com/cox.net) but now it's
> moved on to southernbell - dunno where Cox is,

IIANM, that is in Canada...big serpryse...

> but I know where Southern Bell is...y'all damn yanks are to
> blame...(g)

as it is always... ;-)

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RE: [newbie] Upgrading KDE 3.0.5a to 3.1

2003-09-19 Thread Aron Smith
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 18:14, Boulytchev, Vasiliy wrote:
> Ladies and Gents,
>   I have some mp3s I need to burn to audio cds. Which package is recommended?
> Grip use lame as encoder
>  
> Vasiliy Boulytchev
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Re: [newbie] Microsoft Junk Mail - Virus?

2003-09-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 10:49, HaywireMac wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:35:51 +1000
> Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> 
> > How can you NOT have a $MAILDIR? Either with SENDMAIL or POSTFIX, you
> > have that already...
> 
> exactly, so why do I need to define it? it already knows where to put
> the mail, so what I did (and it even "authorizes" this in the nkvir
> recipe) is this (.procmailrc):

Then all ya have to do is create a dir there called virus...

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Re: [newbie] Article: New web worm warning

2003-09-19 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 19 September 2003 09:49 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> OTOH, it wouldn't be too hard to phrase it into their existing contracts
> that they can TRY to eliminate viruses tranferred as EXE, PIF, COM and
> SCR files - that wouldn't be too hard to do given the philosophy that
> you do not send people EXE, PIF, COM or SCR files as a matter of
> etiquette commonly...that way, they'd be able to legally filter those
> files yet maintain enough "distance" legally from the customer in case
> of a "disaster"...don't ya reckon?

Well, when we add in the additional problem, that they are dealing with a 
largely computer-ignorant public, who are dumb enough to run windows in the 
first place, then connect without a good firewall/antivirus solution 
installed, then don't apply the proper patches to at least get the terribly 
inept level of security that MS does offer, and who are dumb enough to click 
on attachments in the first place, the situation may not be quite as simple 
as just explaining that there are no guarantees.

I think that were I in that position, I would not want to go to court in the 
US and depend on a jury of 12 people, selected based on their ignorance of 
the issues, feeling sorry for someone who was obviously in wy over their 
head, and whining to the jury about how he shouldn't be responsible and he 
didn't need to take care of things himself, because "lookie right here, it 
says that they remove viruses in the brochure."

Not to mention the morons who complain that their buddy sent them a 
self-extracting archive (.exe) that they didn't get the 10th time and they 
are only just now figuring out why the attachment keeps getting deleted, and 
they were depending on those files for a big presentation and are going to 
sue because of the lost income.  If people can rack up legal fees suing the 
AOL's of the world for blocking spam, just think of the joys of litigating 
failures, either way, of virus screening.

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Re: [newbie] formatting a floppy

2003-09-19 Thread s
On Friday 19 September 2003 12:47 pm, cervixcouch wrote:

> > >>>I've tried "mke2fs /dev/fd0"  AND "fdformat /dev/fd0" both of
> > >>> which appear to have worked, i.e. no error messages.

> > >> mounted. fdformat first, then mkdosfs.  really vfat should be
> > >> used on floppies, even if it's for linux files.
> > >
> > > I tried formatting the floppy as a DOS floppy and was able to
> > > copy files to it.
> > >
> > > But why does it make a difference? 

well, I don't recall all the technical mumbo jumbo as it was explained 
by Civileme on this list a couple/few years back, but the upshot was 
something to the effect that the floppy filesystem format was a dos 
thing and as such it's difficult for ext2 to conform.   Where's Tom 
Brinkman when you need him?  :)  

anyway, I know that ain't much help, but my memory is going...  :)
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[newbie] VMWare question

2003-09-19 Thread Lee Wiggers
I'm slowly installing 9.1 on the office boxes this evening.  heh heh

Question struck playing with my VMWare install on the laptop.

Do I have to defrag a VMWare fat32 disk?

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Re: [newbie] Article: New web worm warning

2003-09-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 10:11, Chris wrote:
> On Friday 19 September 2003 02:07 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > Po wittle MicroSCOft...
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3119316.stm
> >
> > stephen kuhn - owner
> 
> Yea, and I go 43 of the damm things in the last two days.  Ya can actually 
> look at the worm with a hex editor and see where it tries to disable 
> Zonealarm and some of the win antivirus software.  Can't believe Earthlink 
> can't stop them from coming in, haven't gotten a one come in through my 
> toadnet.com domain though, course its being hosted on a linux server, maybe 
> thats why :)

One way of dealing with it from an ISP's perspective, is to delete
anything with an EXE attached to it - or so you'd think. Being that
there is a tremendous amount of damage being done world-wide, you'd
think that Sysadmins would institute such at least on linux/unix boxes -
irregardless of contract to the customer - for security and safety sake.

Bear in mind, though, that all of this is only making the users of MS
Outlook and MS Outlook Express consider alternatives...they've been
slapped really badly in the past six months and it doesn't seem to be
letting up any time soon...it's gotten worse...so they're re-thinking
their positions on whether or not Microsoft's "Trustworthy Computing
Initiative" is worth the bullshit...

...and Microsoft is feeling the heat as well...which they should...

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Re: [newbie] Microsoft Junk Mail - Virus?

2003-09-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 09:46, HaywireMac wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:52:22 +1000
> Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> 
> >  (did you set yours up with all the variables and the likes,
> >  correctly?);
> 
> actually, now that I look at it, there's one thing I'm doing wrong.
> 
> here where it identifies the virus dir:
> 
> #where you want viruses to go..
> #variable VIRDIR may also be set at your main procmailrc before
> #including YAVR default is $MAILDIR/virus/ where $MAILDIR is a variable
> #from your main procmailrc ATTENTION: /virus/ is a directory NOT a file
> :0
> * $ ${VIRDIR:+!}
> { VIRDIR=$MAILDIR/virus }
> 
> if I understand him correctly, I could comment that out and in my
> .procmailrc, since I don't have a $MAILDIR= (yet), I could define:
> 
> VIRDIR=$HOME/mail/virus
> 
> oui ou non?

How can you NOT have a $MAILDIR? Either with SENDMAIL or POSTFIX, you
have that already...I'm using sendmail, so mine is /var/spool/mail - so
that being said, I created a /var/spool/mail/virus directory for shit to
live in - but then decided that I want to delete it instead and changed
the script to force to /dev/null - but by rote, you should capture those
in a dir for your viewing pleasure...


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Re: [newbie] Article: New web worm warning

2003-09-19 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 19 September 2003 08:11 pm, Chris wrote:
> On Friday 19 September 2003 02:07 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > Po wittle MicroSCOft...
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3119316.stm
> >
> > stephen kuhn - owner
>
> Yea, and I go 43 of the damm things in the last two days.  Ya can actually
> look at the worm with a hex editor and see where it tries to disable
> Zonealarm and some of the win antivirus software.  Can't believe Earthlink
> can't stop them from coming in, haven't gotten a one come in through my
> toadnet.com domain though, course its being hosted on a linux server, maybe
> thats why :)

I have also wondered why ISP's are not filtering stuff like this, but I have 
also thought about the potential liability of an ISP that offers something 
like virus filtering to its customers.  Unlike spam filtering, virus 
filtering offerred to customers might imply some type of liability if they 
failed to catch a particular virus.  If they miss spam, no great harm and any 
complaints would lack enough damages to merit a tort.  Viruses, however, are 
a different matter.  Failure to catch something might allow someone to claim 
enough damages to enable them to go to court for the potential negligence, 
etc.  I expect that ISP's are probably risk averse to accepting the potential 
liability of trying to intercept stuff like that.

Just my guess mind you.  Given how litigious the US is, I am not all that 
surprised that the ISP's simply leave it to the customer to protect 
themselves.  At least the customer can't sue and claim that they thought they 
were protected because of the service offerred by the ISP.
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Re: [newbie] Article: New web worm warning

2003-09-19 Thread Chris
On Friday 19 September 2003 02:07 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> Po wittle MicroSCOft...
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3119316.stm
>
> stephen kuhn - owner

Yea, and I go 43 of the damm things in the last two days.  Ya can actually 
look at the worm with a hex editor and see where it tries to disable 
Zonealarm and some of the win antivirus software.  Can't believe Earthlink 
can't stop them from coming in, haven't gotten a one come in through my 
toadnet.com domain though, course its being hosted on a linux server, maybe 
thats why :)

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Re: [newbie] Hooking into Windows

2003-09-19 Thread Heather/Femme
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:34:36 -0500
"Burrows, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Were on a Windoze netework on Win2k boxes here. I have a 2nd box that
> is MKD 9.1 that I connected to the Windows LAN with no problems.  
> 
> I have nothing in my /mnt user folder.
> 
> Help!
> 
> Scott
> 

Se if this helps:
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Re: [newbie] Hooking into Windows

2003-09-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 03:34, Burrows, Scott wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Were on a Windoze netework on Win2k boxes here. I have a 2nd box that is MKD
> 9.1 that I connected to the Windows LAN with no problems.  
> 
> I wanted to access some the Windows resources like printers or other
> computers so I, using LinNeighborhood, created some mapped or mounted
> network resources on my 9.1 box.
> 
> For example I created a connection between my 9.1 Linux box and my Windoze
> PC's C drive.  No biggy.  
> 
> I've since removed all the connections or at least I think I have, however
> my LAN guys are telling me my Linux box is continuing to attempt to gain
> access to the Windoze resouces. 
> 
> The only reason they know this is because it requires a password to access
> the LAN and the one I used at the time has since expired, so its raising
> security flags on our network admins monitor.
> 
> I've shut off LinNeighborhood, even so as soon as I turn my Linux box on it
> attempts to connect to LAN resources again.  I cannot find what is telling
> the box to do it.  
> 
> I have nothing in my /mnt user folder.
> 
> Help!
> 
> Scott

You might want to restart smb: 

service smb restart

Sometimes it caches information for network access...

Can't the IT guys there create a new username/login for you to use with
the MDK box - or is that way outside of their responsibility?

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Re: [newbie] Microsoft Junk Mail - Virus?

2003-09-19 Thread HaywireMac
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:52:22 +1000
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

>  (did you set yours up with all the variables and the likes,
>  correctly?);

actually, now that I look at it, there's one thing I'm doing wrong.

here where it identifies the virus dir:

#where you want viruses to go..
#variable VIRDIR may also be set at your main procmailrc before
#including YAVR default is $MAILDIR/virus/ where $MAILDIR is a variable
#from your main procmailrc ATTENTION: /virus/ is a directory NOT a file
:0
* $ ${VIRDIR:+!}
{ VIRDIR=$MAILDIR/virus }

if I understand him correctly, I could comment that out and in my
.procmailrc, since I don't have a $MAILDIR= (yet), I could define:

VIRDIR=$HOME/mail/virus

oui ou non?

this is one thing I've never been clear on from what I've read, if I
define MAILDIR= in my .procmailrc, only mail I specifically direct there
will end up there, otherwise, it will end up in /var/spool/mail/joehill
by default, right?

I am verry slowly grokking this...

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Re: [newbie] My clock is fast

2003-09-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 03:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In the special relativistic frame of reference you describe time would
> appear to slow as you *approach* the speed of light.  Exceeding it would
> not be necessary and, iirc, time would seem to reverse if you somehow did
> manage to do it.  Doesn't much matter since there's all sorts of asymptotic
> behavior as you approach that value, infinite energy requirements, infinite
> size results, etc.  (Which is why most modern SF doesn't bother with
> lightspeeds and instead folds space, creates additional dimensions or
> hyperspaces, of simply has things "move" from hither to yon without
> explanation.)

Maybe this is an instance where a particular "fold" in the time/space
continuum has passed through Margot's habitat and caused her such
disruptions in what she would otherwise know as "normal time"?

Either that or too much grog...

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Re: [newbie] PC to PC Connect -- Xover serial Or USB/USB ??

2003-09-19 Thread Dennis Myers
On Friday 19 September 2003 04:14 pm, Bob Read wrote:
> Can someone point me to Information for connecting two PC's
> by either crossover serial cable -- or USB cable?
> Mainly for File transfer/backup.
>
> One is running Mdk 9.1, the other Mdk 8.2.
>
> Much thanks,
> Bob
seems like the most likely way for success would be a crossover cable, but 
then with linux I'm not sure how you define the connection so they can talk 
to each other.  Probly the usual LinNeighborhood method. HTH

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Re: [newbie] My clock is fast

2003-09-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 02:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Sorry Margot, I can't help you, but I suffered from a similar problem (my
> laptop would gradually lose about 10 minutes a week) under Win95, Win98 &
> WinMe, and it bugged me pretty serious, but I just installed a
> clock-syncher and figured it was a problem with the laptop's motherboard.
> 
> But since installing M9.1 a couple of weeks ago, my laptop clock has been
> spot-on accurate!
> 
> Good luck,
> Max

We've been trying to talk Margot into installing linux for quite some
time...she's still stuck on Windows...

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Re: [newbie] I know this has been asked before... clock synching is off

2003-09-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 01:49, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Friday 19 September 2003 02:32 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 13:30, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > > Okay - you do have broadband, right? ;-)
> >
> > No. I do not. I'm stuck on dial-up because we're too far from the
> > exchange, and 802.11b broadband ain't gotta tower on top of the hill
> > yet...but once they do, I'll have 1.5mbps throughput...so I wait...
> 
> Okay, then send me your physical address and we'll see just how efficient the 
> post is! ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Open Letter from our friend Darl

2003-09-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 01:33, HaywireMac wrote:
> This is dated Sept. 9th, so sorry if it's been around already, but you
> gotta read this:
> 
> Quote:



Er, WaymireHac, ya ain't been stuck in the Twilight Zone again, have ye?

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Re: [newbie] Microsoft Junk Mail - Virus?

2003-09-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 00:51, HaywireMac wrote:

> I even grepped for that in my procmail log, no /dev/nulls at all, or
> anything in ~/mail/virus.
> 
> I almost wish there was so I could see this nkvir recipe in action.
> 
> Actually, would it catch the most recent variants? I checked the site
> and there's been no update...

I grabbed the latest one last week and put it in place (as if that's
rocket science) and my SysOp's email is showing what it's catching (did
you set yours up with all the variables and the likes, correctly?); I've
gotten hit (if you want to call it that) quite a bit since yesterday -
mostly from one domain (cox.com/cox.net) but now it's moved on to
southernbell - dunno where Cox is, but I know where Southern Bell
is...y'all damn yanks are to blame...(g)

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Re: [newbie] My clock is fast

2003-09-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 00:16, Margot wrote:

> Tried this... ended up two days ago... something wrong somewhere... 
> should I retry as root? Or just cut down on the drugs?
> 
> Margot

A root is always good to retry.
Don't cut down on the drugs. Reality can't keep up.

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[newbie] PC to PC Connect -- Xover serial Or USB/USB ??

2003-09-19 Thread Bob Read
Can someone point me to Information for connecting two PC's
by either crossover serial cable -- or USB cable?
Mainly for File transfer/backup.
One is running Mdk 9.1, the other Mdk 8.2.

Much thanks,
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[newbie] Sylpheed and sylpheed-claws

2003-09-19 Thread Charles A Edwards

Mdk 9.1 rpms for sylpheed-0.9.6 and sylpheed-0.9.5claws are now
avaiable from my site.

In all likelihood these will be the last of the updates I do for 9.1 as
the release date for 9.2 is closely approaching.

Once released I will, of course, continue to provide updates for at
least these pkgs for 9.2.


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Re: [newbie] Hooking into Windows

2003-09-19 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 6:34 pm, Burrows, Scott wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Were on a Windoze netework on Win2k boxes here. I have a 2nd box that is
> MKD 9.1 that I connected to the Windows LAN with no problems.
>
> I wanted to access some the Windows resources like printers or other
> computers so I, using LinNeighborhood, created some mapped or mounted
> network resources on my 9.1 box.
>
> For example I created a connection between my 9.1 Linux box and my Windoze
> PC's C drive.  No biggy.
>
> I've since removed all the connections or at least I think I have, however
> my LAN guys are telling me my Linux box is continuing to attempt to gain
> access to the Windoze resouces.
>
> The only reason they know this is because it requires a password to access
> the LAN and the one I used at the time has since expired, so its raising
> security flags on our network admins monitor.
>
> I've shut off LinNeighborhood, even so as soon as I turn my Linux box on it
> attempts to connect to LAN resources again.  I cannot find what is telling
> the box to do it.
>
> I have nothing in my /mnt user folder.
>
> Help!
>
> Scott

Look at /etc/fstab  you probably have some samba shares defined which will try 
to mount at boot time. You can just delete those lines and use 
LinNeighborhood to mount your shares when you need them

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Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer

2003-09-19 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Stormjumper wrote:
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 01:33
Subject: Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer



I have one and am very happy with it.  Here's a link to it's page on
epson.com.

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=22708391&modeloid=14417&infoType=Downloads

I have the printer connected to my Mandrake box and have Samba set
up to

share the network printer on the network.  When I print from my Win
2000

box (using the Win 2000 drivers-you have to install them in order to
print to the Mandrake hosted printer) I get really fast print
speeds.

When I print from a program on the Mandrake box (Mozilla, The GIMP,
etc.) I don't get the same speeds.  The speed is acceptable, but it
really flies when you initiate a print job from the Win 2000
machine.

Anyone having the same experience?


sorry brant, dun have an answer to your qn, but i do have a qn for
you...
i presume u're using the Epson C82, since that was model referred to
previously in this thread.
you compared the speed of printout for windoze and linux, but how's
the quality? is there a noticeable difference? also, which driver are
you under linux?
thanks
The print quality is very good when initiated from either Windows or 
Linux.  It's just faster under Windows.  The printing speed between the 
two is about the same.  It's the paper loading that is very fast when 
initiated by Windows.  I would be *very* happy if I could get it to load 
that fast when initiated with Mozilla on Mandrake.

I'm using the CUPS + GIMP-Print v4.2.5 driver.

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Re: [newbie] Hooking into Windows

2003-09-19 Thread kbbabb
I have the same problem with my mdk9.1 system.  Each time I access a Window$ machine 
(all W2K) on our network, it sends that particular machine into a tizzy of CPU madness 
(100% -> 0% ->100%, etc., etc.) that won't stop unless you power down the machine and 
restart after a few minutes.  The hard drive is not being hit during this time.

Since I have dual-boot, I've tried to do the same thing from W2K to the other machines 
but cannot reproduce the problem.  It's only when I use LinNeighborhood to see and 
attach to a resource.

Thanks,

Kirk


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[newbie] Radio contest

2003-09-19 Thread drake
A friend of mine is in the final 2 in a radio contest.  His name is Kurt
and he's from Terrell.  If you guys have time please cast a vote to vote
out Debbie and if you really want to help pass this email on to some of
your friends.

  Here's the webpage:
http://kscs.com/listingsentryfeature.asp?ID=133375&PT=FeatureStory
and here is the link to vote out debbie
http://kscs.com/customform.asp?id=3131



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[newbie] Hooking into Windows

2003-09-19 Thread Burrows, Scott
Hi all,

Were on a Windoze netework on Win2k boxes here. I have a 2nd box that is MKD
9.1 that I connected to the Windows LAN with no problems.  

I wanted to access some the Windows resources like printers or other
computers so I, using LinNeighborhood, created some mapped or mounted
network resources on my 9.1 box.

For example I created a connection between my 9.1 Linux box and my Windoze
PC's C drive.  No biggy.  

I've since removed all the connections or at least I think I have, however
my LAN guys are telling me my Linux box is continuing to attempt to gain
access to the Windoze resouces. 

The only reason they know this is because it requires a password to access
the LAN and the one I used at the time has since expired, so its raising
security flags on our network admins monitor.

I've shut off LinNeighborhood, even so as soon as I turn my Linux box on it
attempts to connect to LAN resources again.  I cannot find what is telling
the box to do it.  

I have nothing in my /mnt user folder.

Help!

Scott



 

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Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer

2003-09-19 Thread Stormjumper

- Original Message - 
From: "Brant Fitzsimmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 01:33
Subject: Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer


> I have one and am very happy with it.  Here's a link to it's page on
> epson.com.
>
>
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=22708391&modeloid=14417&infoType=Downloads
>
> I have the printer connected to my Mandrake box and have Samba set
up to
> share the network printer on the network.  When I print from my Win
2000
> box (using the Win 2000 drivers-you have to install them in order to
> print to the Mandrake hosted printer) I get really fast print
speeds.
> When I print from a program on the Mandrake box (Mozilla, The GIMP,
> etc.) I don't get the same speeds.  The speed is acceptable, but it
> really flies when you initiate a print job from the Win 2000
machine.
>
> Anyone having the same experience?

sorry brant, dun have an answer to your qn, but i do have a qn for
you...

i presume u're using the Epson C82, since that was model referred to
previously in this thread.

you compared the speed of printout for windoze and linux, but how's
the quality? is there a noticeable difference? also, which driver are
you under linux?

thanks


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Re: [newbie] VMWare

2003-09-19 Thread Lee Wiggers
What a nice bonus.

Thanks Tony

You just saved a big pain in the tail.

Lee

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:20:08 +0100
"Tony S. Sykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On a side note you know you can copy the image of win2k onto the
> other PC's so you don't have to install it on all. Just install
> vmware.
> 
> Tony.


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Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-19 Thread Stormjumper

- Original Message - 
From: "The Other" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 23:48
Subject: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions


> 09/06/03
>
> Hello All,
>
> Perhaps the problems I was having installing MDK 9.1 was due to my
> hardware being below minimum specs for 9.1
>
> My current hardware:  ASUS P2B motherboard with 350MHz PII and 128MB
Ram
>
> So I have two options:  1) locate a previous distribution of MDK
that
> will work with this 1998 hardware, or 2) upgrade the motherboard,
cpu,
> and ram.  (If doing the hardware upgrade, I'd like to keep the total
> cost down to $200 USD due.)
>
> My internet connection is now 28.8kps modem, and I have no CD Rom
> burner.  So if the suggestions are for an earlier distribution, I'll
> need to be able to make a boot floppy to perform a hardware install.
>
> Thanks All,
> Stephen.
> Champaign, IL   USA

if you really want decent performance on a budget, you should get more
ram. the P2-350 is really quite okay for Mandrake 9.1.

bumping ram up to 192mb will do nicely for most pp, altho since you
already have 128, it makes much more sense to purchase an additional
256mb given current ram prices.
(of course, if you're not a typical user, eg do heavy graphics editing
etc, then you definitely need a much faster cpu)

that said, 128mb is still enuff for running mandrake 9.1, and the Asus
P2-B is a very stable and capable board with a very recognised
chipset, therefore whatever installation problems are unlikely to be
related to the motherboard or cpu.

luck.

p.s. i was running mdk 9.1 on a P-II 300mhz with 96 mb ram using KDE.
it was definitely no speedster, but it wasn't unbearably slow either.


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Re: [newbie] Hooking into Windows

2003-09-19 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 19 September 2003 01:34 pm, Burrows, Scott wrote:
> Hi all,
> The only reason they know this is because it requires a password to access
> the LAN and the one I used at the time has since expired, so its raising
> security flags on our network admins monitor.
>
> I've shut off LinNeighborhood, even so as soon as I turn my Linux box on it
> attempts to connect to LAN resources again.  I cannot find what is telling
> the box to do it.
>
> I have nothing in my /mnt user folder.

Look in the /etc/samba/smb.conf file to see if you created connections to 
fileshares.  They may be set to reconnect each time.  You can either remove 
them from there or you can disable or uninstall Samba.

Also, if you are running Webmin, go to the Samba control panel in Webmin and 
remove any connections that have been created to the servers and then restart 
Samba, that should fix the problem.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi --auto-select

2003-09-19 Thread Stormjumper

- Original Message - 
From: "RichardA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 23:40
Subject: Re: [newbie] urpmi --auto-select


> I don't understand the last part of your message. What is
significant
> about the --update switch? The urpmi mini-howto says "Once the
security
> source is added, we can check for and install security updates with
> urpmi.update -a followed by urpmi --auto-select".
>
> Richard

the --update forces urpmi to only use sources defined as an update
source.

eg. you have a official mandrake update mirror for mandrake 8.2, and a
plf urpmi source. if you simply urpmi --auto-select, it tries to
update every single program for which a newer rpm exists (on any
source), even if it's not defined as an update source.

this may result in very messed up systems, depending on what urpmi
sources are configured.

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Re: [newbie] formatting a floppy

2003-09-19 Thread cervixcouch
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:23:05 +0100, "Azrael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> cervixcouch wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 02:58:49 -0500, "s" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > 
> >>On Thursday 18 September 2003 08:30 pm, cervixcouch wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I've tried "mke2fs /dev/fd0"  AND "fdformat /dev/fd0" both of which
> >>>appear to have worked, i.e. no error messages.
> >>
> >>make sure supermount is disabled, and the the floppy isn't mounted.  
> >>fdformat first, then mkdosfs.  really vfat should be used on 
> >>floppies, even if it's for linux files.  
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > I tried formatting the floppy as a DOS floppy and was able to copy files
> > to it.
> > 
> > But why does it make a difference?  I formatted my zip drive as ext2 and
> > it works fine.
> > 
> > And if/since it does make a difference, why is "Linux" even offered as a
> > file system option in KFloppy?  In what situations would that work?
> 
> It's more the case that "linux" as an option wouldn't work on a windows 
> machine if you wanted to use your files there as well.
> Hence use a format that can be accessed from a windows PC should it ever 
> be necessary.

I figured as much, as far as a Windows machine goes, but I was only using
Linux machines to try to save to the floppies I'd formatted as "Linux"
floppies.  I've gotten the same error message on three Linux machines
now.

No biggie.  I can just format them as DOS floppies, but it does seem
silly to need to do so.
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[newbie] Hooking into Windows

2003-09-19 Thread Burrows, Scott
Hi all,

Were on a Windoze netework on Win2k boxes here. I have a 2nd box that is MKD
9.1 that I connected to the Windows LAN with no problems.  

I wanted to access some the Windows resources like printers or other
computers so I, using LinNeighborhood, created some mapped or mounted
network resources on my 9.1 box.

For example I created a connection between my 9.1 Linux box and my Windoze
PC's C drive.  No biggy.  

I've since removed all the connections or at least I think I have, however
my LAN guys are telling me my Linux box is continuing to attempt to gain
access to the Windoze resouces. 

The only reason they know this is because it requires a password to access
the LAN and the one I used at the time has since expired, so its raising
security flags on our network admins monitor.

I've shut off LinNeighborhood, even so as soon as I turn my Linux box on it
attempts to connect to LAN resources again.  I cannot find what is telling
the box to do it.  

I have nothing in my /mnt user folder.

Help!

Scott



 

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Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer

2003-09-19 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
John Richard Smith wrote:
Dale Huckeby wrote:

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Lee Wiggers wrote:

 

Need recommendations for a cheap inkjet that is:

9.1 friendly
refillable   


 Epson is very Linux friendly.  They support Linux probably better than
any other printer.  I've got a Stylus C82 that I'm very happy with.  In
product reviews a few people complained about the noise the paperfeed 
makes, and it is definite but not bothersome in my opinion.  What I 
noticed is
that it works.  It's very definite and precise in feeding and positioning
the sheets, and mine has never jammed (in five or six months).  I think
you'll find that the C82 (or probably any Epson; this is my second one)
will work very well with 9.1.  That's what I'm running.  Mandrake will 
know
what it is and configure it for you, although you can specify quality 
settings at various levels of detail and expertise (in printerdrake in 
mcc) if you wish.  Mine cost about $100.  Its quality is pretty 
impressive.
I scanned (on an Epson scanner!) and printed one of my niece's wedding
photos, and it was practically indistinguishable from the real thing.

HTH,
Dale Huckeby
 

Thank you Dale for your detailed experiences,  these are the kind of 
personal experiences we all like to hear about.
I'm not in the market today for a new printer , but may well think about 
it in the not too distant future, if I did want one today, I'm coming 
round to the Idea of trying out an Epson myself, well, I've had a good 
experience with their Epson perfection 2450 scanner, and with 
testermonials like yours one is encouraged. You don't mention print 
speeds ?

John
I have one and am very happy with it.  Here's a link to it's page on 
epson.com.

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=22708391&modeloid=14417&infoType=Downloads

I have the printer connected to my Mandrake box and have Samba set up to 
share the network printer on the network.  When I print from my Win 2000 
box (using the Win 2000 drivers-you have to install them in order to 
print to the Mandrake hosted printer) I get really fast print speeds. 
When I print from a program on the Mandrake box (Mozilla, The GIMP, 
etc.) I don't get the same speeds.  The speed is acceptable, but it 
really flies when you initiate a print job from the Win 2000 machine.

Anyone having the same experience?

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Re: [newbie] formatting a floppy

2003-09-19 Thread John Richard Smith
cervixcouch wrote:

This seems like it should be so simple, but it just won't work.

Using 'Gnome Floppy' and 'Floppy Formater' completely hangs my system, so
I've been trying to format a linux floppy so I can save some files.
I've tried "mke2fs /dev/fd0"  AND "fdformat /dev/fd0" both of which
appear to have worked, i.e. no error messages.  

I can "umount /mnt/floppy" then "mount /mnt/floppy" without a problem.

Yet when I try to copy anything to the floppy, using "cp testfile.txt
/mnt/floppy", I get the error message:
cp: cannot stat '/mnt/floppy/testfile.txt':  Input/Output error

What does 'cannot stat' mean? 

What am I doing wrong? 

 

 

try,
mkfs -t vfat /dev/fd0   if you want fat32,
or,
mkfs /dev/fd0 if you want ext2 as it's default.
John

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Re: [newbie] formatting a floppy

2003-09-19 Thread Azrael
cervixcouch wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 02:58:49 -0500, "s" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

On Thursday 18 September 2003 08:30 pm, cervixcouch wrote:


I've tried "mke2fs /dev/fd0"  AND "fdformat /dev/fd0" both of which
appear to have worked, i.e. no error messages.
make sure supermount is disabled, and the the floppy isn't mounted.  
fdformat first, then mkdosfs.  really vfat should be used on 
floppies, even if it's for linux files.  



I tried formatting the floppy as a DOS floppy and was able to copy files
to it.
But why does it make a difference?  I formatted my zip drive as ext2 and
it works fine.
And if/since it does make a difference, why is "Linux" even offered as a
file system option in KFloppy?  In what situations would that work?
It's more the case that "linux" as an option wouldn't work on a windows 
machine if you wanted to use your files there as well.
Hence use a format that can be accessed from a windows PC should it ever 
be necessary.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi --auto-select

2003-09-19 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
RichardA wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:05:46 +0300, Phazeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
If you are talking about Mandrake 9.1 then the answer is simple - your
rpm db just broke up. It's pretty simple to fix it though. First you
have to delete the old rpm db:
# rm -rf /var/lib/rpm/__db.*
then just rebuild the db (without loosing the currently installed
packages list):
#rpm --rebuilddb
I don't think i have to mention that all this should be done as root
After the rebuilddb finish - go ahaead and update your sources again 
(urpmi.update -a). And next time you want to update something ONLY
from the updates mirror - you can use the --update switch with the
urpmi that tells it to use ONLY the updates.


It's MDK 9.0, but I don't think that matters in this case. I've used
this fix before, but I didn't recognise that it was needed for this
fault. Thanks.
I don't understand the last part of your message. What is significant
about the --update switch? The urpmi mini-howto says "Once the security
source is added, we can check for and install security updates with
urpmi.update -a followed by urpmi --auto-select".
Richard
The "--update" switch tells urpmi to update the system from the *update 
urpmi source only*.

Examples:

"urpmi --updates --auto-select" will update everything from the 
*updates* urpmi source.

"urpmi --auto-select" will update the machine from *all* urpmi sources.

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Re: [newbie] formatting a floppy

2003-09-19 Thread cervixcouch
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 02:58:49 -0500, "s" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thursday 18 September 2003 08:30 pm, cervixcouch wrote:
> 
> > I've tried "mke2fs /dev/fd0"  AND "fdformat /dev/fd0" both of which
> > appear to have worked, i.e. no error messages.
> 
> make sure supermount is disabled, and the the floppy isn't mounted.  
> fdformat first, then mkdosfs.  really vfat should be used on 
> floppies, even if it's for linux files.  
> 

I tried formatting the floppy as a DOS floppy and was able to copy files
to it.

But why does it make a difference?  I formatted my zip drive as ext2 and
it works fine.

And if/since it does make a difference, why is "Linux" even offered as a
file system option in KFloppy?  In what situations would that work?
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Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer

2003-09-19 Thread John Richard Smith
Bryan Phinney wrote:

On Friday 19 September 2003 10:22 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Bryan Phinney wrote:
   

On Thursday 18 September 2003 10:48 pm, Eric Huff wrote:
 

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 20:11:28 -0400

Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   

Well, I used checkinstall to build the RPM when I compiled it myself.

and password in private email, if anyone else wants it, they will have
to contact me and let me know so I can give them an id as well.
Just to be sure, I will put an md5 sum for the package along with the
RPM, you can download both and then check it yourself.
 

I'd like to get it, too, please.

Charles tends to put stuff at his site, if you want to check with him.
His site is http://www.eslrahc.com/  and email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   

I will send you an id and password.  I don't have a problem making this
available to anyone but given that I did not compile the package with a
GPG key, I want to make sure that everyone who is interested can satisfy
themselves as to the source of the package.  Granted, it is just a set of
printer drivers but I want to make sure that no one ends up compromised
without knowing it by extending too many expectations about the security
of the package.
BTW, I would advise any person who routinely gets RPM's from disparate
sources to install Kpackage, it allows you to look into the RPM indepth,
see what files are included, where they go and other information about
the package.
 

Kpackage,

Is this on our CD's or where do we get it ?
   

I have my version from Texstar but I think that there are mdk RPM's available, 
if not on the CD, try rpmfind.net

 

Yep, M9.1 CD3

/mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS3/kdeadmin-kpackage-3.1-8mdk.i586.rpm

John

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Re: [newbie] My clock is fast

2003-09-19 Thread Max . Benitz


In the special relativistic frame of reference you describe time would
appear to slow as you *approach* the speed of light.  Exceeding it would
not be necessary and, iirc, time would seem to reverse if you somehow did
manage to do it.  Doesn't much matter since there's all sorts of asymptotic
behavior as you approach that value, infinite energy requirements, infinite
size results, etc.  (Which is why most modern SF doesn't bother with
lightspeeds and instead folds space, creates additional dimensions or
hyperspaces, of simply has things "move" from hither to yon without
explanation.)

=-=-=



Being that time is relative, you might be in a situation where you're
actually travelling faster than light, which would cause time to appear
to slow down. If that is, in fact, the case, then you'll have to
throttle back your space ship so that you're within normal operating
bounds and time will again settle back into it's pace.




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Re: [newbie] My clock is fast

2003-09-19 Thread Max . Benitz

Sorry Margot, I can't help you, but I suffered from a similar problem (my
laptop would gradually lose about 10 minutes a week) under Win95, Win98 &
WinMe, and it bugged me pretty serious, but I just installed a
clock-syncher and figured it was a problem with the laptop's motherboard.

But since installing M9.1 a couple of weeks ago, my laptop clock has been
spot-on accurate!

Good luck,
Max





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Subject:[newbie] My clock is fast


My clock is set to the right timezone (London), and shows roughly the
right time, but I have to remember to reset it once a week because it
gains around 10 minutes a week.

It is annoying, because I look at the clock on the screen, get the
approximate time, then have to get up from my desk and go across the
room to find out what the exact time is - I've moved the furniture so I
can't see another clock from here!

Is there some way of adjusting the clock so it stays right? Or do I have
to use the workaround and remember to wear my watch?

Margot



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Re: [newbie] Microsoft Junk Mail - Virus?

2003-09-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 3:01 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:
> On Friday 19 Sep 2003 2:30 pm, HaywireMac wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:18:40 +0100
> >
> > Margot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > > "Flood" seems a bit of an understatement - I've just received
> > > another eight of them! I'm beginning to feel a bit persecuted
> > > here...
> >
> > I feel so left out...I haven't gotten even a one... :-(
>
> I'm getting them here at home and at work, through MessageLabs(!)
> The exe file seems to be empty, so I can see why ML let it through.
>
> From the rest of the message it appears to be "Swen"
> http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/swen.shtml
> A very nasty piece of work.

You and I know that M$ don't send out patches via email, but one of 
the ones that came in here this morning must have looked very 
convincing to someone who does not know.  Looking at the html (I 
haven't of course seen it in all its glory - my filter caught it) it 
is full of links to M$ pages.  The attachment is Upgrade59.exe

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Re: [newbie] compile kernel

2003-09-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 4:35 pm, Eric Huff wrote:
> Welcome to the list David.
>
> Can't help on the kernel compile, but here's a friendly link to
> Mandrake Mailing List Etiquette.
> You (unknowingly) hijacked this thread, so check out the hijacking
> section in:
>
> http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquet
>te
>
> There's lots of other great info there, too.  An easier to remember
> link is:
> http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org
>
http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org takes you to the home page.  You will 
need to delete WebHome and replace it with 
MandrakeMailingListEtiquette when you get there, or use the full link 
above.

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Re: [newbie] I know this has been asked before... clock synching is off

2003-09-19 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 19 September 2003 02:32 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 13:30, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > Okay - you do have broadband, right? ;-)
>
> No. I do not. I'm stuck on dial-up because we're too far from the
> exchange, and 802.11b broadband ain't gotta tower on top of the hill
> yet...but once they do, I'll have 1.5mbps throughput...so I wait...

Okay, then send me your physical address and we'll see just how efficient the 
post is! ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Bibletime (revisited)

2003-09-19 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 19 September 2003 04:03 am, s wrote:
> On Thursday 18 September 2003 10:28 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > > I unzipped mine to ~/.sword.
> >
> > Thanks, that did it. Where did you find that info at?
>
> yama mentioned it on http://www.pclinuxonline.com  :P  Have no idea
> where he read it.  
>
> -s

Ah, one of those "round about" routes, eh? :-)

Thx again.

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Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer

2003-09-19 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:13:40 -0400
Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I could think of a few other terms, how about:
> A) potentially malicious
> B) uncertain 
> C) possibly clueless
> D) virtual
> E) potentially drug-addled
> F) potentially reality-challenged
> H) cluelessly floating on the ceiling in another dimension in an
> alternate reality
> 
> Take your pick, I thought "disparate" was fairly diplomatic.

H), but that could have something to do with having already mastered E)
and F)  (-;


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Re: [newbie] Microsoft Junk Mail - Virus?

2003-09-19 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:13:58 +0100
Margot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> Oh you poor sweetheart! Shall I forward some of mine? I've got plenty
> to spare...three more just arrived... :-(
> 
> I must have upset Microsoft pretty badly for them to be sending me all
> 
> these viruses... sorry, Bill - and I really mean that ;-)

actually, I may have *almost* gotten one, but Mailfilter caught it
before Procmail could (I love this OS!):

mailfilter: Deleted Microsoft Corporation Network Security Division 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Last Net Update, Fri, 19 Sep 2003
03:42:26 -0400 (EDT). [Score: 100]

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[newbie] Open Letter from our friend Darl

2003-09-19 Thread HaywireMac

This is dated Sept. 9th, so sorry if it's been around already, but you
gotta read this:

Quote:

"Rather than fight for the right for free software, it's far more
valuable to design a new business model that enhances the stability and
trustworthiness of the Open Source community in the eyes of enterprise
customers."

So, in other words, don't fight for what you believe in, cave in to
commercial pressures and corruption, that's the way to sustain the Linux
community. Does he understand the meaning of "community"?

And that's not the best part, he actually accuses Eric Raymond of being
in on the DoS attacks...

http://www.sco.com/company/openletter/

and the response?

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-09-10-016-26-OS-CD-CY

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Re: [newbie] Microsoft Junk Mail - Virus?

2003-09-19 Thread Eric Huff
> "Huh?  Windows  was designed to keep  the idiots away from  Unix so we
> could hack in peace.  Let's not break that." -- Tom Christiansen

  LOL!  That's saved inmy one-liner list...

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Re: [newbie] compile kernel

2003-09-19 Thread Eric Huff
Welcome to the list David.

Can't help on the kernel compile, but here's a friendly link to Mandrake
Mailing List Etiquette.
You (unknowingly) hijacked this thread, so check out the hijacking
section in:

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette

There's lots of other great info there, too.  An easier to remember link
is:
http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org

eric

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:02:59 +0700 (WIT)
David A Simatupang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hello.
> 
> my name is david simatupang. i'm new to this mailing list. i want to
> ask 2 question :
> 1. how to make a program to rpm. 
>ex: program hello.c 
> 2. how to compile linux kernel so it can recognize NTFS.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi --auto-select

2003-09-19 Thread RichardA
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:05:46 +0300, Phazeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> If you are talking about Mandrake 9.1 then the answer is simple - your
> rpm db just broke up. It's pretty simple to fix it though. First you
> have to delete the old rpm db:
> # rm -rf /var/lib/rpm/__db.*
> then just rebuild the db (without loosing the currently installed
> packages list):
> #rpm --rebuilddb
> 
> I don't think i have to mention that all this should be done as root
> After the rebuilddb finish - go ahaead and update your sources again 
> (urpmi.update -a). And next time you want to update something ONLY
> from the updates mirror - you can use the --update switch with the
> urpmi that tells it to use ONLY the updates.

It's MDK 9.0, but I don't think that matters in this case. I've used
this fix before, but I didn't recognise that it was needed for this
fault. Thanks.

I don't understand the last part of your message. What is significant
about the --update switch? The urpmi mini-howto says "Once the security
source is added, we can check for and install security updates with
urpmi.update -a followed by urpmi --auto-select".

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Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer

2003-09-19 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 19 September 2003 10:49 am, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:25:36 -0400
>
> Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have my version from Texstar but I think that there are mdk RPM's
> > available, if not on the CD, try rpmfind.net
>
> There are also fms which will do the same.
> The 1 of my choice is emelfm.
>
> BTW I object to being called a "disparate source" (-;

I could think of a few other terms, how about:
A) potentially malicious
B) uncertain 
C) possibly clueless
D) virtual
E) potentially drug-addled
F) potentially reality-challenged
H) cluelessly floating on the ceiling in another dimension in an alternate 
reality

Take your pick, I thought "disparate" was fairly diplomatic.  ;-}

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Re: [newbie] Microsoft Junk Mail - Virus?

2003-09-19 Thread HaywireMac
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:13:13 +1000
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> I thought I wasn't getting any (because they don't hit my normal email
> box) but in checking "root's" email, I find that I've had 11 hits so
> far- but they were nicely moved to the /dev/null bin where they can't
> spread or do any further injustices...
> 
> (So nice to have three means by which to squash this shit)
> 
> Ah well, back to the boring drab email that normally comes into the
> box...

I even grepped for that in my procmail log, no /dev/nulls at all, or
anything in ~/mail/virus.

I almost wish there was so I could see this nkvir recipe in action.

Actually, would it catch the most recent variants? I checked the site
and there's been no update...

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Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer

2003-09-19 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:25:36 -0400
Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have my version from Texstar but I think that there are mdk RPM's
> available, if not on the CD, try rpmfind.net


There are also fms which will do the same.
The 1 of my choice is emelfm.

BTW I object to being called a "disparate source" (-;


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Re: [newbie] VMWare

2003-09-19 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:47:21 +1000
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 20:37, Lee Wiggers wrote:
> 
> > Also, when I had install problems, I got the latest rpm from the
> > VMWare site and installed that.  Should I leave it now that I
> > understand the install or start over with the disk?  The real sn
> > in place of the demo # appears to be fine as is and nothing has
> > said,"Turns in to a pumpkin in thirty days."
> > 
> > Lee
> 
> If it's working, leave it.
> 
> stephen kuhn - owner

Okay, I'm sold on this VMWare stuff

I just watched a win2k install without any bs in about an hour. 
That beats my average for this crap by about 7 hours.

For drivers, all it needed was VMToolkit, and it tells you that when
you sign in.

It checked in to the lan and when I set up the share I had instant
access to everything I had planned.

That's great.  Should have known wincrap would work better under
mdk.

Go Billy!

I'm going to sneak up on the office this weekend and meet everyone
with a cheery Monday surprise.

Lee


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Re: [newbie] Microsoft Junk Mail - Virus?

2003-09-19 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:44:23 +1000
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> There is a horrible rash of more bugs on it's way - consider yourself
> one of the first victims - not that it will cause YOU damage...but
> will damage MS based computers...

this bit from the Toronto LUG list had me laughing (someone was
lamenting the volume of said virus-laden mail they were getting):

> There ought to be a law against Windows on the Internet.

The theory is that someone on one of the PostgreSQL mailing lists has
gotten hit by the virus.

And people wonder why there is a reluctance on the part of that project
team to commit to the importance of doing a super-incredible Windows
port...

I am increasingly with Tom Christiansen that...

"Huh?  Windows  was designed to keep  the idiots away from  Unix so we
could hack in peace.  Let's not break that." -- Tom Christiansen

Nice quote to keep around... 

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Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer

2003-09-19 Thread bob parker
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:12, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 18 Sep 2003 12:29 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> > I know if I wait long enough, you all start to agree with me, HP
> > printers are not well supported in linux and do not work that well,
> > as compared to epson and lexmark all of which I have have had one
> > or more experience with one way or another.
>
> I repeat - with one exception, around 3 years ago (when I was defeated
> and temporarily gave up linux), I have used HP printers without any
> problems whatsoever.  Mandrake has found them in every version from
> 8.0.  IIRC HP show clearly on their website which models are
> supported.  That's how I chose my present one.
>
> Anne

Anne,

I have to second what you say. I just bought and installed a HP Deskjet 3325 
on my Debian Woody system.

No drivers for it in the Woody debs so I just downloaded the open source 
drivers tarball from sourceforge, compiled and installed the driver.

Then installed the printer using cups without any problem at all.

This printer cost me all of $AUD 49-00 which is around $USD 30-00 this week.

HP IMO support OSS so I believe we OSS users s/be supporting them.

A further advantage for HP, along with Lexmark, is that they use oil based 
inks which makes for better smear resistance off the printer.

My 2 bits.

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Re: [newbie] VMWare

2003-09-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 20:37, Lee Wiggers wrote:

> Also, when I had install problems, I got the latest rpm from the
> VMWare site and installed that.  Should I leave it now that I
> understand the install or start over with the disk?  The real sn in
> place of the demo # appears to be fine as is and nothing has said,
> "Turns in to a pumpkin in thirty days."
> 
> Lee

If it's working, leave it.

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Re: [newbie] remote console screen display

2003-09-19 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:39:11 +0100
"Kitchener, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> 
> I Don't know if this is possible in software, but I am looking for a
> system by which I can boot from scratch a remote linux/unix box as if
> I was sitting at the real console attached to the remote box. I
> suspect that this would have to be done in hardware but I am not
> totally convinced. I need to be able to see the complete boot up
> sequence not just, log in, issue shutdown-r now and wait and hope that
> it rebootsDoes anyone know of a solution ?

I think all you would need to do is boot from a network disk, ie. the
computer you are sitting at would derive it's OS from a remote source,
the whole "thin client" idea (Google time!).

I do not believe you could "have your cake and eat it too", though,
unless you ran an OS within an OS, with something like VMWare.

In order to "connect" to a remote machine from an already running OS,
the remote machine would have to already be running, ie. booted.

The only sol'n that I think would come anywhere near what you are
discussing is using the hardware feature "wake on LAN" that comes with
many newer NIC's, but again, you would only be able to connect *after*
the remote host had already booted (unless you use something like VMWare
to boot a "virtual" OS from the remote host's disk).

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Re: [newbie] formatting a floppy

2003-09-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 8:58 am, s wrote:
> On Thursday 18 September 2003 08:30 pm, cervixcouch wrote:
> > I've tried "mke2fs /dev/fd0"  AND "fdformat /dev/fd0" both of
> > which appear to have worked, i.e. no error messages.
>
> make sure supermount is disabled, and the the floppy isn't mounted.
> fdformat first, then mkdosfs.  really vfat should be used on
> floppies, even if it's for linux files.
>
I presume that you would lose the permissions, though?

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Re: [newbie] My clock is fast

2003-09-19 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 19 September 2003 03:13 am, Margot wrote:
> My clock is set to the right timezone (London), and shows roughly the
> right time, but I have to remember to reset it once a week because it
> gains around 10 minutes a week.
>
> It is annoying, because I look at the clock on the screen, get the
> approximate time, then have to get up from my desk and go across the
> room to find out what the exact time is - I've moved the furniture so I
> can't see another clock from here!
>
> Is there some way of adjusting the clock so it stays right? Or do I have
> to use the workaround and remember to wear my watch?

If you install the ntpd daemon and set it to a good source, it should 
automatically set your computer clock to atomic clock time so that it is 
always right.  Then you can set your watch by your computer clock instead of 
the other way around.

Just pull up the package manager and search for ntp.  Once you get it 
installed, you need to find a public time server to bounce the connection off 
of to get the right time.

Try to get one in the same timezone as you, it just works better.

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Re: [newbie] Missing files??

2003-09-19 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 19 September 2003 01:25 am, Aron Smith wrote:
> have been trying to install Xmms-diskwriter thru URPMI no luck
> here is output of urpmi
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] aron]# urpmi xmms-diskwriter
>
> ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/
>rpms/./xmms-diskwriter-1.2.8-2tex.i586.rpm Installation failed, some files
> are missing:
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/xmms-diskwriter-1.2.8-2tex.i586.rpm
> You may want to update your urpmi database
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] aron]#

Aron, update your sources again.  I would bet that it is trying to pull the 
wrong set of files from Texstar.  He puts new ones in almost every day so if 
the sources are not brand new, a lot of times that is the error that you will 
get as it tries to install non-existant packages as dependents.

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Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer

2003-09-19 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 18 September 2003 10:48 pm, Eric Huff wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 20:11:28 -0400
>
> Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, I used checkinstall to build the RPM when I compiled it myself.
> >
> > and password in private email, if anyone else wants it, they will have
> > to contact me and let me know so I can give them an id as well.
> >
> > Just to be sure, I will put an md5 sum for the package along with the
> > RPM, you can download both and then check it yourself.
>
> I'd like to get it, too, please.
>
> Charles tends to put stuff at his site, if you want to check with him.
> His site is http://www.eslrahc.com/  and email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I will send you an id and password.  I don't have a problem making this 
available to anyone but given that I did not compile the package with a GPG 
key, I want to make sure that everyone who is interested can satisfy 
themselves as to the source of the package.  Granted, it is just a set of 
printer drivers but I want to make sure that no one ends up compromised 
without knowing it by extending too many expectations about the security of 
the package.

BTW, I would advise any person who routinely gets RPM's from disparate sources 
to install Kpackage, it allows you to look into the RPM indepth, see what 
files are included, where they go and other information about the package.

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Re: [newbie] VMWare

2003-09-19 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:20:44 +1000
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> I think I did...
> 
> stephen kuhn - owner

It's always good to know who to blame.

I installed the kernel source and the win2k install is going as I
hoped it would.  Never saw a 4g format go in 2 sec before.

I put it in fat32 because of the ntfs write thing.  It's first shot
practice anyway.

It is worth the buck and a half just to see ms trapped on my tux
box.

The point here is to get the office (8 win2k boxes) off of win2k,
but have 2k usable until the last two programs we still need are
replaceable.

I Notice I just had trouble when the setup tried to join the running
workgroup. Nope, works fine.  Just got in to the file server without
a hitch.

Wonder if I have to go through that whole dismal process with
drivers?  Took 6 hrs to put 2k on the laptop when I offed winxp.

Also, when I had install problems, I got the latest rpm from the
VMWare site and installed that.  Should I leave it now that I
understand the install or start over with the disk?  The real sn in
place of the demo # appears to be fine as is and nothing has said,
"Turns in to a pumpkin in thirty days."

Lee




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Re: [newbie] VMWare

2003-09-19 Thread Phazeman
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On Friday 19 September 2003 12:20, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 18:02, Lee Wiggers wrote:
> > Proprietary programs really suck.
> >
> > VMWare is the subject of this particular rant, but could be anybody.
> >
> > I bought the package at a reasonable price, but:
> >
> > Can't install what they sent because it only supports up to 9.0 mdk.
> >  When I try to allow setup to build a vmon module, it asks for the
> > location of the kernel headers after it looks to
> > /usr/src/linux/include.
>
> (SECRET: Create a link as in:
>
>  ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-0.13mkd /usr/src/linux
>
> ...so when you start the installation, and it asks where your stuff is,
> you can rightfully say its in /usr/src/linux/include
>
> ...works here mate...)
>
> > When I point it to /usr/include,
>
> (bad)
>
> >  where I think I found what it was
> > looking for it replies, "The directory or kernel headers (version
> > 2.4.21) does not match your running kernel (version 2.4.21-0.13mdk)
> > Even if the module were to compile successfully,. it would not load
> > into the running kernel."
> >
> > Questions:
> >
> > 1.  Is there a mdk rpm somewhere for VMWare 4.something?
>
> No - it has to be compiled per machine.
>
> > 2.  Does this mean that all 8 of my boxes are stuck on this kernel
> > forever? (Without the same bs 8 more times) when I do get it
> > working?
>
> No - just do the same as I told you above.
>
> > 3.  Who talked me into this anyway?
>
> I think I did...
>
> stephen kuhn - owner
> ==
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> a kuhn media australia company
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well.. there is a simpler solution for this:
all you ahve to do is urpmi kernel-source.
it will automaticaly download the sources of your currently running kernel and 
symlink all what needed in /usr/src so you won't have to do anything else. 
BTW - installing kernel-source is necessery for NVIDIA autoinstaller too.

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[newbie] remote console screen display

2003-09-19 Thread Kitchener, Steve
Hi,

I Don't know if this is possible in software, but I am looking for a system
by which I can boot from scratch a remote linux/unix box as if I was sitting
at the real console attached to the remote box. I suspect that this would
have to be done in hardware but I am not totally convinced. I need to be
able to see the complete boot up sequence not just, log in, issue shutdown
-r now and wait and hope that it rebootsDoes anyone know of a solution ?

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer

2003-09-19 Thread John Richard Smith
Dale Huckeby wrote:

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Lee Wiggers wrote:

 

Need recommendations for a cheap inkjet that is:

9.1 friendly
refillable 
   

 Epson is very Linux friendly.  They support Linux probably better than
any other printer.  I've got a Stylus C82 that I'm very happy with.  In
product reviews a few people complained about the noise the paperfeed makes, 
and it is definite but not bothersome in my opinion.  What I noticed is
that it works.  It's very definite and precise in feeding and positioning
the sheets, and mine has never jammed (in five or six months).  I think
you'll find that the C82 (or probably any Epson; this is my second one)
will work very well with 9.1.  That's what I'm running.  Mandrake will know
what it is and configure it for you, although you can specify quality 
settings at various levels of detail and expertise (in printerdrake in mcc) 
if you wish.  Mine cost about $100.  Its quality is pretty impressive.
I scanned (on an Epson scanner!) and printed one of my niece's wedding
photos, and it was practically indistinguishable from the real thing.

HTH,
Dale Huckeby
 

Thank you Dale for your detailed experiences,  these are the kind of 
personal experiences we all like to hear about.
I'm not in the market today for a new printer , but may well think about 
it in the not too distant future, if I did want one today, I'm coming 
round to the Idea of trying out an Epson myself, well, I've had a good 
experience with their Epson perfection 2450 scanner, and with 
testermonials like yours one is encouraged. You don't mention print speeds ?

John

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Re: [newbie] VMWare

2003-09-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 18:02, Lee Wiggers wrote:
> Proprietary programs really suck.
> 
> VMWare is the subject of this particular rant, but could be anybody.
> 
> I bought the package at a reasonable price, but:
> 
> Can't install what they sent because it only supports up to 9.0 mdk.
>  When I try to allow setup to build a vmon module, it asks for the
> location of the kernel headers after it looks to
> /usr/src/linux/include.

(SECRET: Create a link as in:

 ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-0.13mkd /usr/src/linux

...so when you start the installation, and it asks where your stuff is,
you can rightfully say its in /usr/src/linux/include

...works here mate...)

> When I point it to /usr/include,
(bad)
>  where I think I found what it was
> looking for it replies, "The directory or kernel headers (version
> 2.4.21) does not match your running kernel (version 2.4.21-0.13mdk)
> Even if the module were to compile successfully,. it would not load
> into the running kernel."
> 
> Questions:
> 
> 1.  Is there a mdk rpm somewhere for VMWare 4.something?

No - it has to be compiled per machine.

> 2.  Does this mean that all 8 of my boxes are stuck on this kernel
> forever? (Without the same bs 8 more times) when I do get it
> working?

No - just do the same as I told you above.

> 3.  Who talked me into this anyway?

I think I did...

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Re: [newbie] VMWare

2003-09-19 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:33:19 +0200
Ralph Slooten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 04:02:02 -0400
> Lee Wiggers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Proprietary programs really suck.
> 
> In theory yes, in actual circumstances I'd say vmware does about
> the best job around for paid software on Linux.
> 
> > VMWare is the subject of this particular rant, but could be
> > anybody.
> > 
> > I bought the package at a reasonable price, but:
> > 
> > Can't install what they sent because it only supports up to 9.0
> > mdk.
> >  When I try to allow setup to build a vmon module, it asks for
> >  the
> > location of the kernel headers after it looks to
> > /usr/src/linux/include.
> 
> Yes, there are such things called linux-headers and your kernel
> source. These are normally never the same if you upgraded at some
> point. These aren't even ment to be the same version: even Linus
> uses very old linux-headers in/usr/include.
> 
> BTW, what version is this that only supports LM 9.0? Version 3.x?
> Version 4.x isout btw... many improvements over 3, and don't try
> upgrade though from 3 -> 4... well I did, and muched up my windows
> install severely ;-)
> 
> I suggest unpacking the source of your current kernel into
> /usr/src and sylinking it to /usr/src/linux, then run the
> configure script again for vmware.
> 
> > When I point it to /usr/include, where I think I found what it
> > was looking for it replies, "The directory or kernel headers
> > (version 2.4.21) does not match your running kernel (version
> > 2.4.21-0.13mdk) Even if the module were to compile
> > successfully,. it would not load into the running kernel."
> 
> Contradicting what I wrote above, it seems you do have the same
> version, however Mandrake has added a version number after it
> confusing the system into thinking it's another version. Do it the
> say I said... as if I guess right, you installed the standard
> kernel, so install the src.rpm for your kernel, and you should be
> set.
> 
> 
> > Questions:
> > 
> > 1.  Is there a mdk rpm somewhere for VMWare 4.something?
> > 2.  Does this mean that all 8 of my boxes are stuck on this
> > kernel forever? (Without the same bs 8 more times) when I do get
> > it working?
> 
> Probably not, but I built vmware 4 perfectly on this machine, and
> it's running a custom kernel.. I just gave it the path to
> /usr/src/linux/include, and things went smothly.
> 
> > 3.  Who talked me into this anyway?
> 
> Probably someone wise ;-0  As much as I hate windows with a
> passion, vmware does do (hands-down) the best job of running win
> shit under Linux. Wine / WineX and any others cannot compare to it
> in terms of performance and stability (ignoring the fact that
> Windows isn't stable to start with *ggg*). Yes, I know the others
> are emulators, and vmware is a full OS installed, so I don't need
> explanations, however I'm just simply pointing out that is you
> want to get any program from windows running under Linux (so to
> say), vmware is always your best shot, that is if there are no
> linux-equivelants.
> 
> Greetings
> Ralph
> --
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> "...the software said Win95 or better, so I installed Linux"
> 
Just as I thought.  I very much belong on the newbie list.  The
setup was asking for "source" and I didn't understand the question. 
I do that alot around here.

Thanks, Ralph.

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Re: [newbie] VMWare

2003-09-19 Thread Ralph Slooten
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 04:02:02 -0400
Lee Wiggers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Proprietary programs really suck.

In theory yes, in actual circumstances I'd say vmware does about the best job
around for paid software on Linux.

> VMWare is the subject of this particular rant, but could be anybody.
> 
> I bought the package at a reasonable price, but:
> 
> Can't install what they sent because it only supports up to 9.0 mdk.
>  When I try to allow setup to build a vmon module, it asks for the
> location of the kernel headers after it looks to
> /usr/src/linux/include.

Yes, there are such things called linux-headers and your kernel source. These
are normally never the same if you upgraded at some point. These aren't even
ment to be the same version: even Linus uses very old linux-headers in
/usr/include.

BTW, what version is this that only supports LM 9.0? Version 3.x? Version 4.x
isout btw... many improvements over 3, and don't try upgrade though from 3 -> 4
... well I did, and muched up my windows install severely ;-)

I suggest unpacking the source of your current kernel into /usr/src and
sylinking it to /usr/src/linux, then run the configure script again for vmware.

> When I point it to /usr/include, where I think I found what it was
> looking for it replies, "The directory or kernel headers (version
> 2.4.21) does not match your running kernel (version 2.4.21-0.13mdk)
> Even if the module were to compile successfully,. it would not load
> into the running kernel."

Contradicting what I wrote above, it seems you do have the same version, however
Mandrake has added a version number after it confusing the system into thinking
it's another version. Do it the say I said... as if I guess right, you installed
the standard kernel, so install the src.rpm for your kernel, and you should be
set.


> Questions:
> 
> 1.  Is there a mdk rpm somewhere for VMWare 4.something?
> 2.  Does this mean that all 8 of my boxes are stuck on this kernel
> forever? (Without the same bs 8 more times) when I do get it
> working?

Probably not, but I built vmware 4 perfectly on this machine, and it's running a
custom kernel.. I just gave it the path to /usr/src/linux/include, and things
went smothly.

> 3.  Who talked me into this anyway?

Probably someone wise ;-0  As much as I hate windows with a passion, vmware does
do (hands-down) the best job of running win shit under Linux. Wine / WineX and
any others cannot compare to it in terms of performance and stability (ignoring
the fact that Windows isn't stable to start with *ggg*). Yes, I know the others
are emulators, and vmware is a full OS installed, so I don't need explanations,
however I'm just simply pointing out that is you want to get any program from
windows running under Linux (so to say), vmware is always your best shot, that
is if there are no linux-equivelants.

Greetings
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Re: [newbie] USB mass-storage: HELP!

2003-09-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 1:50 am, Iwan Binanto wrote:
> --- HaywireMac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 18:29:57 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > Iwan Binanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > > I'm confuse. Somebody, please help me.
> >
> > Someone might, if you post a new thread. Do *not*
> > hijack existing
> > threads.
> >
> > Thank you.
>
> I'm sorry if I have a mistake. But I'm not a terrorist
> I just a newbie who know nothing. I don't understand
> what you mean about "hijack".

The attached file should explain to you.

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If you use Reply but change the subject, you are hijacking.  Many of
use prefer to read messages threaded.  When threads are sorted they 
use a couple of headers (you can see these if you enable Full Headers 
in your mail reader) called Message ID and References.  This means 
that your new subject is seen as part of the original thread, which 
makes it extremely difficult to follow.

From your point of view, there is also the fact that many people 
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Re: [newbie] Microsoft Junk Mail - Virus?

2003-09-19 Thread John Wilson
On September 19, 2003 12:24 am, Margot wrote:
> Downloading mt messages this morning I noticed a large number of
> messages appearing in my Mozilla Junk folder. Checked it because I'm
> still training the junk controls, and found eleven messages supposedly
> from various parts of Microsoft, all message bodies identical but with
> different .exe files attached.
>
> I've had a couple of these before in the last couple of weeks, but
> eleven at once? That's excessive! Anyone else had these?
>
> Well done to the Moz junk mail control though, for correctly identifying
> anything from "Microsoft" as Junk!
>
> Margot


This a a nasty bit of stuff that's just starting to flood out.  As Stephen 
says it's part of a flood of these things and they all do rather nasty things 
to a Windows computer.

A friend of mine found that one of her employee's opened one of the blessed 
things in Outlook which they'd changed from my presetting of not to open such 
crap and they even unchecked the trusted sources option.  BOOM!  Within an 
hour every computer on the network was acting up and by 5 that afternoon it 
was gone.  Good thing it was a friday cause her hardware guy and I spent the 
weekend cleaning up the mess.

When I disassembled the bug, on a Linux machine of course, it turned out to 
have three payloads...one for Win 9x, one for NT/200 and a really nasty one 
for XP.  We managed to salvage most of the company data and contact lists 
from backups but the XP box needed a very low level format and then had to be 
reinstalled.

I went around and reset Outlook on each box and then installed a VBScript that 
automatically deletes suspicous files from incoming mail.  Not exactly Spam 
Assassin but it works.  Only problem is legitimate HTML mail now has to be 
zipped to be sent but I'm slowly teached them, and their clients, to send 
text only messages.

They are buying a machine for me to install Mandrake on to build a proper 
server and they have heeded my advice never  --- ever --- to use XP again. 
:-)

Now if I could just find a Linux app that reads ACT! files and is a workalike 
I could wean them off Windows completely :-)

ttfn

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Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer

2003-09-19 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 23:58:42 -0400
Lee Wiggers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 23:10:59 -0400
> "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 


As usual I'm amazed at the response here.

Thanks all

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Re: [newbie] My clock is fast

2003-09-19 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 8:13 am, Margot wrote:
> My clock is set to the right timezone (London), and shows roughly the
> right time, but I have to remember to reset it once a week because it
> gains around 10 minutes a week.
>
> It is annoying, because I look at the clock on the screen, get the
> approximate time, then have to get up from my desk and go across the
> room to find out what the exact time is - I've moved the furniture so I
> can't see another clock from here!
>
> Is there some way of adjusting the clock so it stays right? Or do I have
> to use the workaround and remember to wear my watch?
>
> Margot


Install the ntp package
In /etc/ntp/step-tickers  put in the name of 1 or more public time servers 
such as
ntp2a.mcc.ac.uk
salmon.maths.tcd.ie

Make sure the ntpd service is set to run at boot.

That will calibrate your clock to an atomic clock every time you boot.
If you run 24/7 you might want continuous adjustment as well. To do that edit
/etc/ntp.conf to include the lines

server ntp2a.mcc.ac.uk# Manchester University
server salmon.maths.tcd.ie # Trinity College Dublin

You can check the operation of ntp with ntptime and ntptrace
Note :ntp will take 15 minutes before it starts working, and will *slowly* 
pull your clock into line with the public servers.
You can find a list of public servers here
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/servers.html

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Bibletime (revisited)

2003-09-19 Thread s
On Thursday 18 September 2003 10:28 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:

> > I unzipped mine to ~/.sword.

> Thanks, that did it. Where did you find that info at? 

yama mentioned it on http://www.pclinuxonline.com  :P  Have no idea 
where he read it.  

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[newbie] VMWare

2003-09-19 Thread Lee Wiggers
Proprietary programs really suck.

VMWare is the subject of this particular rant, but could be anybody.

I bought the package at a reasonable price, but:

Can't install what they sent because it only supports up to 9.0 mdk.
 When I try to allow setup to build a vmon module, it asks for the
location of the kernel headers after it looks to
/usr/src/linux/include.

When I point it to /usr/include, where I think I found what it was
looking for it replies, "The directory or kernel headers (version
2.4.21) does not match your running kernel (version 2.4.21-0.13mdk)
Even if the module were to compile successfully,. it would not load
into the running kernel."

Questions:

1.  Is there a mdk rpm somewhere for VMWare 4.something?
2.  Does this mean that all 8 of my boxes are stuck on this kernel
forever? (Without the same bs 8 more times) when I do get it
working?

3.  Who talked me into this anyway?

Lee


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[newbie] compile kernel

2003-09-19 Thread David A Simatupang
hello.

my name is david simatupang. i'm new to this mailing list. i want to ask 2 
question :
1. how to make a program to rpm. 
   ex: program hello.c 
2. how to compile linux kernel so it can recognize NTFS.

Thank's for your help!

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Re: [newbie] formatting a floppy

2003-09-19 Thread s
On Thursday 18 September 2003 08:30 pm, cervixcouch wrote:

> I've tried "mke2fs /dev/fd0"  AND "fdformat /dev/fd0" both of which
> appear to have worked, i.e. no error messages.

make sure supermount is disabled, and the the floppy isn't mounted.  
fdformat first, then mkdosfs.  really vfat should be used on 
floppies, even if it's for linux files.  

hth,
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Re: [newbie] Microsoft Junk Mail - Virus?

2003-09-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 17:24, Margot wrote:
> Downloading mt messages this morning I noticed a large number of 
> messages appearing in my Mozilla Junk folder. Checked it because I'm 
> still training the junk controls, and found eleven messages supposedly 
> from various parts of Microsoft, all message bodies identical but with 
> different .exe files attached.
> 
> I've had a couple of these before in the last couple of weeks, but 
> eleven at once? That's excessive! Anyone else had these?
> 
> Well done to the Moz junk mail control though, for correctly identifying 
> anything from "Microsoft" as Junk!
> 
> Margot

There is a horrible rash of more bugs on it's way - consider yourself
one of the first victims - not that it will cause YOU damage...but will
damage MS based computers...

stephen kuhn - owner
==
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Re: [newbie] My clock is fast

2003-09-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 17:13, Margot wrote:
> My clock is set to the right timezone (London), and shows roughly the 
> right time, but I have to remember to reset it once a week because it 
> gains around 10 minutes a week.
> 
> It is annoying, because I look at the clock on the screen, get the 
> approximate time, then have to get up from my desk and go across the 
> room to find out what the exact time is - I've moved the furniture so I 
> can't see another clock from here!
> 
> Is there some way of adjusting the clock so it stays right? Or do I have 
> to use the workaround and remember to wear my watch?
> 
> Margot

Being that time is relative, you might be in a situation where you're
actually travelling faster than light, which would cause time to appear
to slow down. If that is, in fact, the case, then you'll have to
throttle back your space ship so that you're within normal operating
bounds and time will again settle back into it's pace.

OTOH, you could setup your box to retrieve normal earth bound time from
an NTP server and hence have the correct relative time all the time...

stephen kuhn - owner
==
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[newbie] Microsoft Junk Mail - Virus?

2003-09-19 Thread Margot
Downloading mt messages this morning I noticed a large number of 
messages appearing in my Mozilla Junk folder. Checked it because I'm 
still training the junk controls, and found eleven messages supposedly 
from various parts of Microsoft, all message bodies identical but with 
different .exe files attached.

I've had a couple of these before in the last couple of weeks, but 
eleven at once? That's excessive! Anyone else had these?

Well done to the Moz junk mail control though, for correctly identifying 
anything from "Microsoft" as Junk!

Margot


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