[newbie] USB Printer
Hi All, I have a USB Printer and I want to know if it is: /dev/usblp0 /dev/usblp1 /dev/usb/lp0 /dev/usb/lp1 It worked when I installed MK9.1 (sort of). The color was really light so I messed with them but still no good. So I installed TurboPrint (decided to just go that route), but now nothing can see my printer. I followed all their howtos (at least I think I did) but still no go. Anyone have a clue? Please don't ask me to uninstall CUPS, the last time I did that I destroyed KDE. Don't ask cause I don't know - Just chalk it up to talent. Thanks Russ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT & hijack..sorry!
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:51:49 -0400 Heather/Femme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:08:00 -0600 > "Charlie M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Heather if you're at the command line interface the best way to > > shut down is type: > > > > halt > > > > If you just want a reboot type: > > > > reboot > > > > It may all be outdated but it still works. It's what I use the > > rare times I ever shut down or reboot. > > > > HTH > > Charlie > > - -- > > ty. > > but...doesn't tell me if their method is > right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what. > > Ty > > Femmily > > I also am interested in the answer. Since installing 9.1, I haven't been able to shut down without "shutdown now" or ctl-alt-backspace. Didn't care because shutdowns are rare here. Anyway I've used the 3 finger salute probably 30 times or so with no trauma indicated in the past year. 9.1 & xfs Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT & hijack..sorry!
> > OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to > > powerdown is use three finger salut. > > > > Why not use shutdown or reboot -now? > > > > Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date? > Anyways, when I've dropped out of X, I always use: > > shutdown -h now > > Don't know what others do though I always type use halt eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 9:19 pm, rikona wrote: Hello Anne, Monday, September 22, 2003, 12:31:31 AM, you wrote: AAW> Don't want to rain on your parade, rikona, but 'natural language' AW> searches never seemed to give me answers either. It is VERY likely that your "natural language" search was nothing at all like what I am proposing. Just because you can type in a regular sentence into a search engine means almost nothing. It may only remove the 'noise' words and look for others, perhaps even with an 'and' between them. Yech. For starters, I am talking about a help system that uses a thesaurus to translate between the 'natural language' words and the 'jargon' used in the docs. The system also understands 'help' ideas such as 'how do I' etc. Other ideas are also used, such as clustering. It is not just a simple search. Also note that almost all inquiries here need more info in addition to the original question. The system must be interactive to be really useful. After the first request, the system then makes a request for more info, just as happens on this list. Based on this improved 'understanding' of the problem, solutions are then offered. If need be, these can be further refined. AW> Back again, I think, to the fact that no search can give an answer AW> that isn't in the docs, It may be in the docs, but not in a form that is readily accessible by a simple search. AW> the docs are written by those who didn't need to ask True. :-) It's an interesting proposition, but not an overnight job, I think I'll look forward to seeing that in a future Mandrake release? I'm looking forward to strong AI ;-) Sir Robin -- "I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next moment they may sting you. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 08:09 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 11:02 am, HaywireMac wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:13:07 -0700 > > > > John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > By the same logic you seem to suggest tossing a nonswimmer into > > > the 20 foot end of a pool and say "swim" which is exactly what > > > RTFM is. > > > > I agree wholeheartedly. > > As for the car, was anyone really put into the driving seat, then told > to RTFM? > > > This is where this list comes in. I have found that a combination > > of manpages, howto's, polite advice (without the RTFM), and Stephen > > Kuhn telling me to wake the fsck up has been most effective in > > getting me to learn. > > I like paper. I print out man pages, HOW-TOs, TWiki pages and > everything else that seems to help. I buy books, too. I posted a > question about symlinks some time ago because I had followed the > instructions in the expensive (£3O) book, and it didn't work. In > fact the instructions in the FM were completely wrong, and I had been > completely mislead by R'ingTFM. > > It's never that simple, yanki, and most of us learn by interaction. I > talk to a friend off-list, where we swap problems. Often, before a > reply comes back I have solved it myself, because articulation of the > problem helps tidy up the thinking processes. And experienced > people, both on this list and the expert one, have admitted that they > have just done the same thing. > > Anne I like to close this discussion by giving last word to lady. This thread was too long and hopefully some people get something from this discussion. My only hope is that current way we, Linux community, going will not bring us to dad end of do not think but click. In my opinion the man pages, HOWTO, and personal research should come before asking direct question. But maybe this is coming from my main job of all hated IT manager where 50 times a day I hear the question coming to me in line of how to save to the a: drive. I am not disagree that newbie list and twiky page are important; however in the hit of discussion every one forget what my original post was. I posted an instruction for using man pages. But no good did goes unpunished :) And I was slap by the HiywierMac :) Sorry for having my own opinion I will crawl under my desk and hide from every body. :) I can not withstand a pressure of whole Wilson family (Ann, John) :) Just for joke sorry Will \:-() To post, or not to post: that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous flamers, Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, And by opposing end them? -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT & hijack..sorry!
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:08:00 -0600 "Charlie M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heather if you're at the command line interface the best way to shut > down is type: > > halt > > If you just want a reboot type: > > reboot > > It may all be outdated but it still works. It's what I use the rare > times I ever shut down or reboot. > > HTH > Charlie > - -- ty. but...doesn't tell me if their method is right/wrong/irrevelevant/dangerous...or what. Ty Femmily Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT & hijack..sorry!
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:09:20 +0100 Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like paper. I print out man pages, HOW-TOs, TWiki pages and > everything else that seems to help. I buy books, too. I posted a > question about symlinks some time ago because I had followed the > instructions in the expensive (£3O) book, and it didn't work. In > fact the instructions in the FM were completely wrong, and I had been > completely mislead by R'ingTFM. > Anne > OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to powerdown is use three finger salut. Why not use shutdown or reboot -now? Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date? ty Earth to Major Femme! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Another MIcro$ux triump
From: Speakeasy Network Bulletin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Speakeasy Members <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [ Speakeasy ] Security Update: MS Operating System Vulnerabilities Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Dear Speakeasy Members, The following notice is provided as a courtesy in an effort to keep all machines on Speakeasy's network secure. Please read this information if you are running one of the following Operating Systems (OS): - Microsoft Windows NT Workstation 4.0 - Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 - Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0, Terminal Server Edition - Microsoft Windows 2000 - Microsoft Windows XP - Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Microsoft has issued a security bulletin regarding vulnerabilities in the Remote Procedure Call (RPC) services which would allow an attacker to remotely compromise your computer and gain complete control. To protect your computer and network, you will need to immediately patch your system. For full details on this vulnerability and how to update your OS, please visit http://www.microsoft.com/security/security_bulletins/ms03-039.asp You will find more information on Microsoft's Security Bulletin MS03-039 (824146) and step-by-step procedures for installing the required update -- including how to set up a firewall, obtain automated updates and use up-to-date anti-virus software. This is an excellent resource that will assist you in fully securing your network against this threat. For those of you interested in more information on this topic, we have included additional resources at the end of this notice. Presently, no global reports of this exploit have been recorded, however, we strongly encourage all customers running any of the vulnerable OS's to secure their machines as soon as possible to prevent any possible damage to their machine and/or network. We appreciate your prompt attention to this matter, The Speakeasy Crew 800.556.5829 http://www.speakeasy.net/myspeak --- ADDITIONAL RESOURCES --- - Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-039: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-039.asp This is the actual security bulletin and provides full details around the vulnerability, including information on how to fix it or learn more via Microsoft's knowledgebase. - Cert.org Advisory: http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-23.html This site thoroughly explains the RPC vulnerabilities in Microsoft Windows and provides links to the security update and information on how to disable DCOM, the interface that can be exploited by an attacker. Please carefully read through the disclaimer and possible adverse effects that disabling DCOM can have on your computer prior to electing to do so. Speakeasy, Inc., claims no liablity or support for any effects that disabling DCOM may have on your computer and/or network. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] European Parliament votes for software patents.
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 04:54 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > As expected, the EP voted for the proposal with a huge majority. > > But just to calm you down a bit : But that wasn't all was it? I heard that amendments were made that might actually offer hope for us...and that its still not the final vote, more is to be decided. Is this not correct? Thanks. -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages, slight OT & hijack..sorry!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 24, 2003 07:06 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: [..] > OK In the RUTE manual it says if you're in cli mode, best wya to > powerdown is use three finger salut. > > Why not use shutdown or reboot -now? > > Is that wise (rutes suggestion..) or out of date? > > ty > > Earth to Major Femme! Heather if you're at the command line interface the best way to shut down is type: halt If you just want a reboot type: reboot It may all be outdated but it still works. It's what I use the rare times I ever shut down or reboot. HTH Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 22:05:05 up 4 days, 11:24, 1 user, load average: 1.04, 1.07, 0.91 Your step will soil many countries. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/cmouG11CaRuZZSIRAgq/AKCdXbHpu7p5muO/AHvy6rCJodW9pwCfdbEc yRtqMLQNO9zLRyqXskV3sos= =RU/l -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] USB PALM Sync woes continue
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:50:38 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: > I doubt that visor & usb-uhc1 should be unused. I've spent over 10 > hours trying to get this to work, scouring google, and I've come to > the conclusion that something's good and broken. The palm is set to > use USB for sync, every instruction has been followed and refollowed. > I'm out of ideas. I'm really really sorry if this is a repetition or if it's been tried already, but just in case, you may need to type first: export PILOTPORT=/dev/ttyUSB1 I missed the rest of the thread, so, again, sorry if that's old crap. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ When the wind is great, bow before it; when the wind is heavy, yield to it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] USB PALM Sync woes continue
Thanks very much for the helpful links with instructions on how to set up a Palm USB Mandrake sync, but I'm still unable to do it. Here is the error message I get when I press the hotsync button first and follow all the other directions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -b visorbackup ERROR: No such device (19) Press the HotSync button first and relaunch this conduit.. Unable to bind to port: /dev/ttyUSB1 Please use --help for more information =-=-= [EMAIL PROTECTED] random]# lsmod Module Size Used byNot tainted visor 10440 0 (unused) usbserial 21468 0 [visor] ... usb-uhci 24652 0 (unused) usbcore72992 1 [visor usbserial usb-uhci] =-= I doubt that visor & usb-uhc1 should be unused. I've spent over 10 hours trying to get this to work, scouring google, and I've come to the conclusion that something's good and broken. The palm is set to use USB for sync, every instruction has been followed and refollowed. I'm out of ideas. Thanks for any help, Max Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] installing anacron - newbie question...
On 24 Sep 2003 20:00:52 +0700, Merlin Zener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, I don't know where to go next from here... > I got slocate installed ok but not anacron: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# urpmi anacron > no package named anacron You should be able to install it. Do you have a 'main' software source defined? Perhaps the CDs you installed from? > Interestingly, I thought I'd have a look at cron itself to see what > it's[not] been doing. but even though locate cron brings pages of > results, cron itself doesn't seem to want to run: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# cron > bash: cron: command not found I think it's called 'crond', because it's a system daemon and not meant to be run directly. > Could you perhaps point me to some reading material that explains > cron/anacron installation and use? http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/cron/ looks ok. Generally, the Linux System Administrators' Guide is good, http://www.tml.hut.fi/~viu/linux/sag/sag-0.6.2.html/index.html the Rute User's Tutorial is heavy going, http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html O'Reilly books are good, man pages fairly indigestible. If you see a book about Red Hat instead of Mandrake, or from a few versions ago, most of the command line stuff hasn't changed. Just don't bother reading about KDE 1.x, or whatever. Richard -- "Get up and turn I loose" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] network problem?
Raffaele, Thank you for pointing out what I so foolishly omitted. The command should be smbmount3 /// / so smbmount knows what to mount and where to mount it. Doh! Paul On Wednesday 24 September 2003 10:28 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote: > Scott, > > it is used both ways, i.e to see linux disk from windows and viceversa. > In the former case you need the samba server, in the latter the client. > > Paul, > > I did this rather a long time ago so I'm not sure I really didn't have > to do any configuration for the client. Currently I only need to issue: > > smbmount /// / > > to see the W2K share from linux. I have to use the IP address because > the local network is mess (Novell + W2K + Sun) and DNS doesn't always > resolve for me. > I think you need use the smbclient front-end only for debugging. > > raffaele > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Forgive my ignorance Paul, insn't Samba used to allow Windows users to > > connect to and use Linux stuff? > > > > Scott > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: Paul Kaplan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:39 PM > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: [newbie] network problem? > >> > >> > >>I am trying to connect to a W2K network with Active > >>Directory. I am using > >>Mandrake 9.1 with the samba3rc4 contrib rpms. > >> > >>When I issue smbclient3 /// > >> > >>I get a password prompt for the directory. After entering my > >>password, I get > >>the smb prompt. From there all sub-directories are visible to the ls > >>command. > >> > >>However, when I issue smbclient3 /// > >> > >>I get the following: could not resolve mount point. > >> > >>What's wrong here? Any help is appreciated. > >>Thanks. > >>Paul > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD-writer fails with CD-R but not CD-RW
Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 18:26, John Richard Smith wrote: Douglas Bainbridge wrote: "cdrecord: OPC failed" I believe it is saying that the drive has failed. That could mean anything. Maybe the drive isn't set up right for cdrecord to work with it. or maybe the driver doesn't work with your make and model. First thing I would do is in a terminal, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cdrecord -scanbus, Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'Generic ' 'USB Storage-SMC ' '0090' Removable Disk scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-ROM DVD-116 ' '1.22' Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) 'MITSUMI ' 'CR-48X9TE ' '1.0C' Removable CD-ROM To see what you have got in the way of recognised devices. John Thanks, John. The driver is recognised alright with cdrecord -scanbus and I can do a dummy run satisfactorily with a CD-R disk in the drive, also cdrecord writes stuff out through the drive quite happily to a (Toshiba) CD-RW disk. I forgot to mention that the same CD-R disks can be written to (after cdrecord has refused) by the drive in Win'98 (bah!). DougB P.S. cdrecord -scanbus output appended: Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'SONY' 'CD-RW CRX175E2 ' 'S002' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * OK, that is good, looks like you have a device. The blank discs write satisfactorily in windblows, so they are not really the problem. You say it can do a dummy write with the lazer turned off, but not an actual write, odd. Is there a size problem ? Maybe too much data to fit on the disc ? What are you writing , data or audio ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 12:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Wednesday 24 September 2003 03:27 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Note that if you do your nix learning on the newbie list > > > > it may take a few years, and you may bump in to an Aussie > > > > or two, but sooner or later it all comes here. > > > > > > > > Lee > > > > > > Auusies aren't so bad. They're just misplaced > > > Newfoundlanders who are deprived of winter, cod cheeks and > > > icebergs. :-) > > > > > > ttfn > > > > > > John > > > > > How come they export their pretty girls to my place, then ??? > > Kaj Haulrich > Denmark. Cauz they don't knoe what to do with them ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD-writer fails with CD-R but not CD-RW
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 18:26, John Richard Smith wrote: > Douglas Bainbridge wrote: > > > > "cdrecord: OPC failed" > I believe it is saying that the drive has failed. > That could mean anything. > Maybe the drive isn't set up right for cdrecord to work with it. > or maybe the driver doesn't work with your make and model. > > First thing I would do is in a terminal, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cdrecord -scanbus, > Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling > Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 > Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' > scsibus0: > 0,0,0 0) 'Generic ' 'USB Storage-SMC ' '0090' Removable Disk > > scsibus1: > 1,0,0 100) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-ROM DVD-116 ' '1.22' Removable CD-ROM > 1,1,0 101) 'MITSUMI ' 'CR-48X9TE ' '1.0C' Removable CD-ROM > > > > To see what you have got in the way of recognised devices. > > John Thanks, John. The driver is recognised alright with cdrecord -scanbus and I can do a dummy run satisfactorily with a CD-R disk in the drive, also cdrecord writes stuff out through the drive quite happily to a (Toshiba) CD-RW disk. I forgot to mention that the same CD-R disks can be written to (after cdrecord has refused) by the drive in Win'98 (bah!). DougB P.S. cdrecord -scanbus output appended: Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'SONY' 'CD-RW CRX175E2 ' 'S002' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Loosing Chinese users?
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:25:45 +0800, Anguo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The English version of Red Flag sucked--we're even. ;-) > > Miark > > Even with whom > > FYI, Red Flag is a communist chinese distribution. The > commies use simplified chinese, which I read work well in > 9.2rc2. So you may have got an broken-English Red Flag from > them, but they get a good simplified chinese Mandrake. > > If you read better the original post, you'd know that what's > lacking is traditional chinese used in HK and in the other > China, the free and democratic one (republic of china) in > Taiwan. Maybe you belong to the group of people who believe > that there is only one china instead of two and that > maoist-communism = free-market-democracy. Woooh, Anguo--it was a joke! Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ADDING useful urpmi commands
Hi, There seem to be a lot of questions about using urpmi - I myself need a lots of info.. Kindly find an attachment with useful urpmi.. etc..commands that I use. Please add some of your own that you use and maybe of some use to list-members. Using/adding to the attachment will make it easy to print and have a reference. Thanks Enjoy Johan May this be a good day for learning Some examples urpmi commands. All the following can also be done by using Mandrake Control Centre. This meant for console use. KINDLY ANYBODY please add some useful commands you used and send back to the list by doing this we may all gain some knowledge... ADDITIONS at bottom please This examples refer to my setup - your paths etc will be different.. Add a CD to media urpmi.addmedia updateCD4 removable://mnt/cdrom/updates/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz remove this CD from media urpmi.removemedia updateCD4 *** Add a CD that was burned from a download from a website... urpmi.addmedia updateCDweb removable://mnt/cdrom/ManUpdates/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz urpmi.removemedia updateCD4web *** List the available media that was added urpmq --list-media (watch it urpm ends with q ) *** THIS will only work before the media was used to update To check if the media you want to use is OK urpmq --auto-select --media updateCD4 to check more than one same time urpmq --auto-select --media updateCD4,updateCDweb (no spaces either side of comma) *** For this to work you have to be connected...to save time while connected make a little script and run..(should you need more info on THAT, feel free to ask..) Add a internet website... urpmi.addmedia --update FranceLyon ftp://ftp.fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/updates/9.1/RPMS/ with ../base/hdlist.cz a lot of links can be found at easy urpmi http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php *** This one I lifted from Chris's email...(thanks)..I have NOT tried it... If you have removed all your media like in... urpmi.removemedia -a You will find that your installation CD's are missing from the list To readd your cd sources do:. Put CD1 in the drive and in root terminal type: urpmi.addmedia --distrib cdrom removable://mnt/cdrom *** KINDLY ADD HERE..PLEASE..Johan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to stop script thats running on shutdown
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 02:45 pm, Johan wrote: > Hi, > I have this script thats runningto stop it the command ..avguard > stopis required. > If I forget to stop it the system hangs forever on shutdown. > > What I like to know is... > 1-Where in a global way to stop it > 2-Where in a user way to stop it. > 3-Anything else I should know please. > > Somewhere in the system scripts should be a way to stop this. > This application is supposed to stop on shutdown but is not doing it. > Thanks > Enjoy > Johan > > May this be a good day for learning You need to check the script in /etc/init.d/avguard There should be a procedure there for shutting down the application. If I remember correctly, if you installed avguard from the instructions, it creates non-standard startup scripts that do not include the sysconfig options that tell it to start up and shutdown on system start and stop. You need to alter the configuration script to include these options. One very easy way to do this is simply to open up Webmin https://localhost:1 if you have it installed and running. Go to System tab, click the Bootup and Shutdown icon. You will see a list of scripts that start and shutdown on boot. At the very bottom of that list you will see a series of scripts called avguard and avupdater. Click on one of them and it will give you a message that the initialization script has been improperly created and ask if you want to correct it. Choose yes and it will then create a single instance of the script. All done and you should not have any problems. You may want to do the same thing to the avupdater script. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How to stop script thats running on shutdown
Hi, I have this script thats runningto stop it the command ..avguard stopis required. If I forget to stop it the system hangs forever on shutdown. What I like to know is... 1-Where in a global way to stop it 2-Where in a user way to stop it. 3-Anything else I should know please. Somewhere in the system scripts should be a way to stop this. This application is supposed to stop on shutdown but is not doing it. Thanks Enjoy Johan May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Loosing Chinese users?
On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 8:54 pm, Miark wrote: > On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:25:45 +0800, Anguo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The English version of Red Flag sucked--we're even. ;-) > > > Miark > > > > Even with whom > > > > FYI, Red Flag is a communist chinese distribution. The > > commies use simplified chinese, which I read work well in > > 9.2rc2. So you may have got an broken-English Red Flag from > > them, but they get a good simplified chinese Mandrake. > > > > If you read better the original post, you'd know that what's > > lacking is traditional chinese used in HK and in the other > > China, the free and democratic one (republic of china) in > > Taiwan. Maybe you belong to the group of people who believe > > that there is only one china instead of two and that > > maoist-communism = free-market-democracy. > > Woooh, Anguo--it was a joke! > > Miark Didn't I read somewhere that Mainland China was going to make Red Flag the only distro available? I'm sure that that was after the bit about encouraging the use of open source in government and business. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Best update website??
On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 8:14 pm, Johan wrote: > Hi Derek, > Kindly the full link for club internet if possible please > Johan ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/9.1/./i586/ SNIP -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't open Mozilla while Thunderbird is running?
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:31, Terry Sheltra wrote: > I've just installed Thunderbird 0.2. One problem I have is that while > I'm using it, I can't run Mozilla (even if I try to start it without > clicking on some link in an email message). I read around Bugzilla > about this problem, but have absolutely no idea what people are talking > about (I'm not all that programming-savvy). Could someone help try to > explain how to fix this problem in more simple terms? Haven't tried 0.2 yet, still using 0.1, but Thunderbird should be using its own directory in your home directory - ~/.thunderbird . Mozilla has its own directory, ~/.mozilla so they shouldn't be sharing prefs and mail. Did you untar the downloaded tar.bz2 file into its own directory? For example create a directory like /usr/local/thunderbird and untar the file into that directory. I will download and install 0.2 today and let you know how I get on. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 09:48, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 12:56, Aron Smith wrote: > > > > > Yeah. Honda. > > They build them in Alabama > > Being that the factory is literally run by computer and robots, they had > to locate the plant in a place where people's minds and intelligence was > not an important factor. > > So Alabama was the best choice. That explains why Mercedes Benz builds M- class SUVs there. > > stephen kuhn - owner > == > illawarra computer services > a kuhn media australia company > http://kma.0catch.com > -- > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents > -- > I realize that the MX missile is none of our concern. I realize that the > whole point of living in a democracy is that we pay professional > congresspersons to concern themselves with things like the MX missile so > we can be free to concern ourselves with getting hold of the plumber. > But from time to time, I feel I must address major public issues such as > this, because in a free and open society, where the very future of the > world hinges on decisions made by our elected leaders, you never win > large cash journalism awards if you stick to the topics I usually write > about, such as nose-picking. -- Dave Barry, "At Last, the Ultimate > Deterrent Against Political Fallout" > > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] European Parliament votes for software patents.
As expected, the EP voted for the proposal with a huge majority. But just to calm you down a bit : Those of you who live in democratic and free countries may think that it's a real parliament. It certainly is not. The members are not elected, they are appointed by national political parties. The real power lies at the Commission. One of the commissars recently called the EP a "Mickey Mouse Parliament" - very appropriate. Most of the members are retired politicians, more or less involuntarily expelled from their home countries to a place where they can do little or no harm. Some because they are even too corrupted for national use, the rest because they are outright crooks or mediocre clowns. What does this "parliament" have do deal with ? For example : the correct slope of cucumbers ! (no kidding). To the extent that the populations are allowed to have a say, they don't give a rats ass about the European Union and it's "parliament". Here in Scandinavia, Norway stays out of the whole mob completely, Sweden just had a referendum on the European currency and rejected it with a large majority as did Denmark a few years ago. Furthermore, Denmark has a lot of reservations and do not participate in military, police, immigration and Union-citizenship. Next year we are going to have another referendum, and chances are we will leave this "Union" alltogether. And my guess is : software patents will suffer the same destiny as skewed cucumbers. Regards Kaj Haulrich The European Union (retired). -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % MicroSCOft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Best update website??
Hi Derek, Kindly the full link for club internet if possible please Johan - Original Message - From: "Derek Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Best update website?? > On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 10:02 am, Johan wrote: > > Hi, > > MDK 9.1 > > 1) Have done updating via MCC > > 2) Urpmi - sites from EASY urpmi > > 3) Downloaded the lot from site including /base/hdlist.cz - written to CD. > > This saved me a lot of grief - drive crashed and had reinstall - update now > > easy to that point. > > > > What I would like to know is how can it be known which sites change with > > new stuff and which stay constant. > > I would gues that the sites with regular updates will probably the best to > > use? > > > > Any ideas which can be regarded as the top 5 on a update/download list? > > > > Input here would be much appreciated. > > Enjoy > > Johan > > > > May this be a good day for learning > > The 'main' and 'contrib' folders will not change on *any* of the mirrors. > The only folders subject to change are 'updates'. 'plf, and 'texstar' > > With Texstar there are only 2 mirrors and the Turkish one is diabolical. > With plf there are only a few mirrors. Most are pretty poor. I find the best > is 'club-internet' > With 'updates' all the mirrors will be synced together within a few hours of > each other. So the choice comes down to performance. Some are a *lot* better > than others. Do not be misled into thinking the closest is the best. > > Some mirrors are heavily loaded and will start requiring logins during peak > periods which will lock you out. > Others become heavily loaded and suffer very poor performance. > The easy way to check is to just put the ftp address of a mirror in a browser > and see how responsive it is navigating up and down the directory tree and > downloading a sample RPM. > > After trying lots of mirrors my personal favourite is rediris.es in Spain (and > no I am not Spanish) Of course if everyone starts using it, then it will > become congested, so just forget I mentioned it. > > derek > > -- > -- > www.jennings.homelinux.net > http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Where to set PATH
After saving the file 1- Did you restart OR 2- source If you have not done one of the above it will not show in echo $PATH Enjoy Johan - Original Message - From: "Jure Repinc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Where to set PATH > Raffaele Belardi wrote: > > system-wide: /etc/profile.d/local.sh (if it does not exist, create it) > > user: ~/.bashrc (if you use bash) > > It doesn't seam to work :( I created the file and I wrote: > > PATH=$PATH:/javabin > export PATH > > but when I check the path /javabin is not in > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:50:41 + Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 24 September 2003 03:27 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Note that if you do your nix learning on the newbie list > > > > it may take a few years, and you may bump in to an Aussie > > > > or two, but sooner or later it all comes here. > > > > > > > > Lee > > > > > > Auusies aren't so bad. They're just misplaced > > > Newfoundlanders who are deprived of winter, cod cheeks and > > > icebergs. :-) > > > > > > ttfn > > > > > > John > > > > > How come they export their pretty girls to my place, then ??? > > Kaj Haulrich > Denmark. > -- > Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org > Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk > Sent to you from a 100 % MicroSCOft-free computer. > > I heard they had a choice..Pretty girls or sheep. Or was that NZ? Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Loosing Chinese users?
> The English version of Red Flag sucked--we're even. ;-) > Miark Even with whom FYI, Red Flag is a communist chinese distribution. The commies use simplified chinese, which I read work well in 9.2rc2. So you may have got an broken-English Red Flag from them, but they get a good simplified chinese Mandrake. If you read better the original post, you'd know that what's lacking is traditional chinese used in HK and in the other China, the free and democratic one (republic of china) in Taiwan. Maybe you belong to the group of people who believe that there is only one china instead of two and that maoist-communism = free-market-democracy. I sometimes wish I had the know-how to do my own distro. I may have to learn anyway, if I want to make sure I get what I need. The local taiwanese distro is not up to speed. I am not even sure it still exists (百資Linux?). Anguo -- Definition: SCOurce code: invisible, yet high value code that does not exist in any physical form. Beyond quantum code. by EmbeddedJanitor http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=67171&cid=6166537 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 24, 2003 07:00 am, Merlin Zener wrote: [..] > > I'll accept the apology if you'll accept mine, then we'll call it even > > and start over. OK? (-: > > Even. > Sounds good to me. > Thanks, Charlie. > > > Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food > > groups -- alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and fat. > > . > If only the Thais understood coffee, the place would be almost > perfect... > > :) > Merlin Zener > Piano, Synthesizer > Thailand. You like that Fortune Cookie eh? I've often said this machine is even more warped than I humour-wise. I still want to find out what caused that bounce so I'm sending you an off-list message. I hope that's OK? Peace; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 12:12:09 up 4 days, 1:31, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.10, 0.08 I used to have a drinking problem. Now I love the stuff. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQE/cd8GG11CaRuZZSIRAs0BAJjHikzMeUIRN5QWFCILgXxfGLCaAJ9J64Uu czCL3f6vmA2Y2NfTKiMVmg== =/8qK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Loosing Chinese users?
I had a look at bugzilla: this and similar bugs have been reported and hopefully someone is working on it... -- In the news: Display Works Inc. Interview: A company explains how and why they have used kDE on their office desktops for over a year. "We evaluated a number of desktops and came to the conclusion that KDE was our best candidate. The real test came when we rolled it out and watched our untrained users. That was really cool." Read more: http://enterprise.kde.org/interviews/displayworks/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Loosing Chinese users?
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:10:43 +0800, Anguo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This was posted by jeff at MandrakeClub. Does anyone knows > more about it??? The English version of Red Flag sucked--we're even. ;-) Miark > > If this is the last one before 9.2 final, I am sure Mandrake > will lose most users from Taiwan and Hong Kong. They will > switch to RedHat for much better Chinese support. > > 9.2rc1 and rc2 are not able to show Traditional Chinese at > all because only Simplied Chinese fonts are installed. I > have already filed this issue in Bugzilla and I hope there > is another release candidate to fix this. > > About 2 years ago, Mandrake was much better in Chinese > support in comparison with other distributions. However, > RedHat have surpassed Mandrake in Chinese support nowadays > that has made many Traditional Chinese user switch to > RedHat. Less and less people have took part in forum on > Mandrake. The prospect of Mandrake among Chinese Linux > market may be not optimistic. > > > -- > In the news: UK Government backs open source > Open-source software will help avoid lock-in to proprietary > IT products and technologies says the government, in its > long-awaited policy document > Read more: > http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2119628,00.html > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 03:27 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote: > > > > > > Note that if you do your nix learning on the newbie list > > > it may take a few years, and you may bump in to an Aussie > > > or two, but sooner or later it all comes here. > > > > > > Lee > > > > Auusies aren't so bad. They're just misplaced > > Newfoundlanders who are deprived of winter, cod cheeks and > > icebergs. :-) > > > > ttfn > > > > John > How come they export their pretty girls to my place, then ??? Kaj Haulrich Denmark. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % MicroSCOft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD-writer fails with CD-R but not CD-RW
Douglas Bainbridge wrote: Hi, Can anyone help? I have been struggling with this problem for ages, RTFM etc. hasn't resolved it for me. MDK9.1. Using cdrecord on the CLI. My Sony CD-writer writes happily to a Toshiba CD-RW, multi-session ,etc. no problem; but I cannot write anything to a CD-R (I've tried Sony Supremas, Kodak Ultima 80, Packard Bell 1-32x). The messages I get are all minor variations on the following, and the commands minor variations on "cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -data image-name" (burnfree ON,OFF; multi, no multi,etc) What the h**l is going on? DougB Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'SONY' Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRX175E2 ' Revision : 'S002' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-2 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1359872 = 1328 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 0 MB padsize: 312 KB Total size:0 MB (00:04.02) = 302 sectors Lout start:1 MB (00:06/02) = 302 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 4 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-) (2) ATIP start of lead in: -12508 (97:15/17) ATIP start of lead out: 359848 (79:59/73) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 22 Manufacturer: Ritek Co. Blocks total: 359848 Blocks current: 359848 Blocks remaining: 359546 Forcespeed is OFF. Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real TAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is OFF. Performing OPC... cdrecord: Input/output error. send opc: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 54 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 73 03 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 3.693s timeout 60s cdrecord: OPC failed. Writing time:3.711s cdrecord: fifo had 5 puts and 0 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%. "cdrecord: OPC failed" I believe it is saying that the drive has failed. That could mean anything. Maybe the drive isn't set up right for cdrecord to work with it. or maybe the driver doesn't work with your make and model. First thing I would do is in a terminal, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cdrecord -scanbus, Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'Generic ' 'USB Storage-SMC ' '0090' Removable Disk scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-ROM DVD-116 ' '1.22' Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) 'MITSUMI ' 'CR-48X9TE ' '1.0C' Removable CD-ROM To see what you have got in the way of recognised devices. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 12:56, Aron Smith wrote: > > > Yeah. Honda. > They build them in Alabama Being that the factory is literally run by computer and robots, they had to locate the plant in a place where people's minds and intelligence was not an important factor. So Alabama was the best choice. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- I realize that the MX missile is none of our concern. I realize that the whole point of living in a democracy is that we pay professional congresspersons to concern themselves with things like the MX missile so we can be free to concern ourselves with getting hold of the plumber. But from time to time, I feel I must address major public issues such as this, because in a free and open society, where the very future of the world hinges on decisions made by our elected leaders, you never win large cash journalism awards if you stick to the topics I usually write about, such as nose-picking. -- Dave Barry, "At Last, the Ultimate Deterrent Against Political Fallout" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] load average
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 15:46, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote: > On Monday 22 September 2003 13:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > That's the result of some commands, as "top"! > > And I got the idea from some aussie (ex-yankie dude). :-) > > And it changes at every 5 minutes! > > Ricardo Castanho > > (also curious!) What - there's ex-Yanks on this list? Yeeesh! (g) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- The world wants to be deceived. -- Sebastian Brant Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 10:26, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > And don't forget your white business socks. > -- cmg In years of dealing with corporate environmental standards, I've found that there are really nice, thick, comfortable COLOURED socks that fit the bill of the standard white tube socks. ...and they go better with sandals. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- `Lasu' Releases SAG 0.3 -- Freeware Book Takes Paves For New World Order by staff writers ... The central Superhighway site called ``sunsite.unc.edu'' collapsed in the morning before the release. News about the release had been leaked by a German hacker group, Harmonious Hardware Hackers, who had cracked into the author's computer earlier in the week. They had got the release date wrong by one day, and caused dozens of eager fans to connect to the sunsite computer at the wrong time. ``No computer can handle that kind of stress,'' explained the mourning sunsite manager, Erik Troan. ``The spinning disks made the whole computer jump, and finally it crashed through the floor to the basement.'' Luckily, repairs were swift and the computer was working again the same evening. ``Thank God we were able to buy enough needles and thread and patch it together without major problems.'' The site has also installed a new throttle on the network pipe, allowing at most four clients at the same time, thus making a new crash less likely. ``The book is now in our Incoming folder'', says Troan, ``and you're all welcome to come and get it.'' -- Lars Wirzenius [comp.os.linux.announce] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] more refresh and modeline fun & follies
On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 4:39 am, Lance Cummings wrote: > > One thing that might help me decide if I want to take a chance on one > of these modelines: Can anyone reading this input your own numbers > to any of the three generators and get a modeline that matches the > one that you are using in XFconfig-4? That would be very interesting > information to have. > > Lance I used xvidtune to generate modelines for my own (auto configured) monitor which may be interesting to you For 1280*1024 @85Hz 24 bit ,157.5MHz dot clock, 91.14kHz Horiz sync, xvidtune tels me the modeline is ModeLine "1280x1024" 157.50 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 For 1024x 768 @85Hz 24 bit, 94.5MHz dot clock, 68.68kHz Horiz sync, xvidtune tels me the modeline is ModeLine "1024x768" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 Note: I do not actually use these modelines since my monitor is Plug and Play. These figures are what xvidtune tells me I would be using if I wanted the same display using ModeLines. Of course usual disclaimers. "use at own risk", "YMMV" etc derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Loosing Chinese users?
This was posted by jeff at MandrakeClub. Does anyone knows more about it??? If this is the last one before 9.2 final, I am sure Mandrake will lose most users from Taiwan and Hong Kong. They will switch to RedHat for much better Chinese support. 9.2rc1 and rc2 are not able to show Traditional Chinese at all because only Simplied Chinese fonts are installed. I have already filed this issue in Bugzilla and I hope there is another release candidate to fix this. About 2 years ago, Mandrake was much better in Chinese support in comparison with other distributions. However, RedHat have surpassed Mandrake in Chinese support nowadays that has made many Traditional Chinese user switch to RedHat. Less and less people have took part in forum on Mandrake. The prospect of Mandrake among Chinese Linux market may be not optimistic. -- In the news: UK Government backs open source Open-source software will help avoid lock-in to proprietary IT products and technologies says the government, in its long-awaited policy document Read more: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2119628,00.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] "mailwasher" style filter/spam stopper for Evolution?
On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 4:10 pm, rikona wrote: > Hello Merlin, > > Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 6:33:44 AM, you wrote: > > MZ> my inbox had 82 messages in it, and only 4 of them were not > spam MZ> and/or viruses. > > Spamassassin can place the score either in the headers or as text > in the body. You might use this in your email client to filter the > spam to a 'spam' folder, to get it out of your inbox. I use two > folders, based on the score, with marginal spam and very likely > spam. I look at the marginal ones and DO occasionally find a false > positive (good email) there (usually from those who use fancy HTML > in email). > > This 'marginal' folder is becoming more and more necessary as > spammers try to avoid spam filters. It is getting harder and harder > to filter out spam. > > MZ> When I was using Outlook on WIN2K, I had Mailwasher going, > which I liked MZ> because I liked the idea of bounce messages going > to the sender of any MZ> messages I marked as spam. Not that I > think the spammers take a blind MZ> bit of notice... > > I wouldn't do this. It only wastes bandwidth. If you go through the > headers to find the true origin, and send a complaint to the ISP, > it might be worthwhile, but it's a lot of work (particularly since > many spammers try to hide). > > MZ> Is there something I can use to look at the headers and > MZ> delete/bounce them before I get them from my POP server? > > One of the reasons Spamassassin is so good is that it looks at the > body in detail. I'm not sure you could get good filtering on just > the headers. You will find more help on mail filtering on http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MaiL -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 2:45 pm, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: > On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 13:18, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > OTOH, I had been dutifully opening a console and using su to do > > maintenance jobs, but closing it to return to user. It was a > > year later before anyone actually mentioned that if you type > > 'exit' you don't need to close it :-) > > > > Anne > > Or Ctrl-D. Even quicker. > Another Crtl-D closes the terminal if you want to. > > DougB Now where, on the TWiki pages, should that go? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Best update website??
On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 10:02 am, Johan wrote: > Hi, > MDK 9.1 > 1) Have done updating via MCC > 2) Urpmi - sites from EASY urpmi > 3) Downloaded the lot from site including /base/hdlist.cz - written to CD. > This saved me a lot of grief - drive crashed and had reinstall - update now > easy to that point. > > What I would like to know is how can it be known which sites change with > new stuff and which stay constant. > I would gues that the sites with regular updates will probably the best to > use? > > Any ideas which can be regarded as the top 5 on a update/download list? > > Input here would be much appreciated. > Enjoy > Johan > > May this be a good day for learning The 'main' and 'contrib' folders will not change on *any* of the mirrors. The only folders subject to change are 'updates'. 'plf, and 'texstar' With Texstar there are only 2 mirrors and the Turkish one is diabolical. With plf there are only a few mirrors. Most are pretty poor. I find the best is 'club-internet' With 'updates' all the mirrors will be synced together within a few hours of each other. So the choice comes down to performance. Some are a *lot* better than others. Do not be misled into thinking the closest is the best. Some mirrors are heavily loaded and will start requiring logins during peak periods which will lock you out. Others become heavily loaded and suffer very poor performance. The easy way to check is to just put the ftp address of a mirror in a browser and see how responsive it is navigating up and down the directory tree and downloading a sample RPM. After trying lots of mirrors my personal favourite is rediris.es in Spain (and no I am not Spanish) Of course if everyone starts using it, then it will become congested, so just forget I mentioned it. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:03:12 -0700 John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On September 23, 2003 10:41 pm, dlwiggers wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:17:58 -0700 > > > > John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On September 23, 2003 01:24 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > Thank you for a great exposition of adult learning. Why > > > > *should* it be more painful than this? Is it just to > > > > protect an elite? > > > > > > Way way back there was a computer priesthood. Computers were > > > these strange things that took up whole floors and were tended > > > on by short haired guys in lab coats who, by the 70s, were > > > joined by geeky hippies. > > > > > > These are the guys that wrote man pages. And they wrote them > > > for each other. > > > > > > In shortyes :-) > > > > > > ttfn > > > > > > John > > > > Note that if you do your nix learning on the newbie list it may > > take a few years, and you may bump in to an Aussie or two, but > > sooner or later it all comes here. > > > > Lee > > Auusies aren't so bad. They're just misplaced Newfoundlanders who > are deprived of winter, cod cheeks and icebergs. :-) > > ttfn > > John > > That's what I thought. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] "mailwasher" style filter/spam stopper for Evolution?
Hello Merlin, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 6:33:44 AM, you wrote: MZ> my inbox had 82 messages in it, and only 4 of them were not spam MZ> and/or viruses. Spamassassin can place the score either in the headers or as text in the body. You might use this in your email client to filter the spam to a 'spam' folder, to get it out of your inbox. I use two folders, based on the score, with marginal spam and very likely spam. I look at the marginal ones and DO occasionally find a false positive (good email) there (usually from those who use fancy HTML in email). This 'marginal' folder is becoming more and more necessary as spammers try to avoid spam filters. It is getting harder and harder to filter out spam. MZ> When I was using Outlook on WIN2K, I had Mailwasher going, which I liked MZ> because I liked the idea of bounce messages going to the sender of any MZ> messages I marked as spam. Not that I think the spammers take a blind MZ> bit of notice... I wouldn't do this. It only wastes bandwidth. If you go through the headers to find the true origin, and send a complaint to the ISP, it might be worthwhile, but it's a lot of work (particularly since many spammers try to hide). MZ> Is there something I can use to look at the headers and MZ> delete/bounce them before I get them from my POP server? One of the reasons Spamassassin is so good is that it looks at the body in detail. I'm not sure you could get good filtering on just the headers. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On September 23, 2003 10:41 pm, dlwiggers wrote: > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:17:58 -0700 > > John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On September 23, 2003 01:24 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > Thank you for a great exposition of adult learning. Why > > > *should* it be more painful than this? Is it just to protect an > > > elite? > > > > Way way back there was a computer priesthood. Computers were > > these strange things that took up whole floors and were tended on > > by short haired guys in lab coats who, by the 70s, were joined by > > geeky hippies. > > > > These are the guys that wrote man pages. And they wrote them for > > each other. > > > > In shortyes :-) > > > > ttfn > > > > John > > Note that if you do your nix learning on the newbie list it may take > a few years, and you may bump in to an Aussie or two, but sooner or > later it all comes here. > > Lee Auusies aren't so bad. They're just misplaced Newfoundlanders who are deprived of winter, cod cheeks and icebergs. :-) ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Can't open Mozilla while Thunderbird is running?
I've just installed Thunderbird 0.2. One problem I have is that while I'm using it, I can't run Mozilla (even if I try to start it without clicking on some link in an email message). I read around Bugzilla about this problem, but have absolutely no idea what people are talking about (I'm not all that programming-savvy). Could someone help try to explain how to fix this problem in more simple terms? Thanks! -- Terry Sheltra PC Support Technician/Asst. Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture 434.982.3047 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Available via instant messenger -- Composed on a 100% Microsoft-free PC Registered Linux User #218330 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CD-writer fails with CD-R but not CD-RW
Hi, Can anyone help? I have been struggling with this problem for ages, RTFM etc. hasn't resolved it for me. MDK9.1. Using cdrecord on the CLI. My Sony CD-writer writes happily to a Toshiba CD-RW, multi-session ,etc. no problem; but I cannot write anything to a CD-R (I've tried Sony Supremas, Kodak Ultima 80, Packard Bell 1-32x). The messages I get are all minor variations on the following, and the commands minor variations on "cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -data image-name" (burnfree ON,OFF; multi, no multi,etc) What the h**l is going on? DougB Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'SONY' Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRX175E2 ' Revision : 'S002' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-2 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1359872 = 1328 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 0 MB padsize: 312 KB Total size:0 MB (00:04.02) = 302 sectors Lout start:1 MB (00:06/02) = 302 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 4 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-) (2) ATIP start of lead in: -12508 (97:15/17) ATIP start of lead out: 359848 (79:59/73) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 22 Manufacturer: Ritek Co. Blocks total: 359848 Blocks current: 359848 Blocks remaining: 359546 Forcespeed is OFF. Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real TAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is OFF. Performing OPC... cdrecord: Input/output error. send opc: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 54 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 73 03 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 3.693s timeout 60s cdrecord: OPC failed. Writing time:3.711s cdrecord: fifo had 5 puts and 0 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] network problem?
Scott, it is used both ways, i.e to see linux disk from windows and viceversa. In the former case you need the samba server, in the latter the client. Paul, I did this rather a long time ago so I'm not sure I really didn't have to do any configuration for the client. Currently I only need to issue: smbmount /// / to see the W2K share from linux. I have to use the IP address because the local network is mess (Novell + W2K + Sun) and DNS doesn't always resolve for me. I think you need use the smbclient front-end only for debugging. raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgive my ignorance Paul, insn't Samba used to allow Windows users to connect to and use Linux stuff? Scott -Original Message- From: Paul Kaplan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] network problem? I am trying to connect to a W2K network with Active Directory. I am using Mandrake 9.1 with the samba3rc4 contrib rpms. When I issue smbclient3 /// I get a password prompt for the directory. After entering my password, I get the smb prompt. From there all sub-directories are visible to the ls command. However, when I issue smbclient3 /// I get the following: could not resolve mount point. What's wrong here? Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] network problem?
Forgive my ignorance Paul, insn't Samba used to allow Windows users to connect to and use Linux stuff? Scott > -Original Message- > From: Paul Kaplan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [newbie] network problem? > > > I am trying to connect to a W2K network with Active > Directory. I am using > Mandrake 9.1 with the samba3rc4 contrib rpms. > > When I issue smbclient3 /// > > I get a password prompt for the directory. After entering my > password, I get > the smb prompt. From there all sub-directories are visible to the ls > command. > > However, when I issue smbclient3 /// > > I get the following: could not resolve mount point. > > What's wrong here? Any help is appreciated. > Thanks. > Paul > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Availability of 9.2 Final ISOs
To keep list-members updated, unless a 'show-stopper' is found, the 9.2 Final ISOs should be available to Club members and contributors by the end of this week. These same ISOs will be made available to the general public at approx the end of Oct, at same time the box set becomes avaiable. Charles -- It is often easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission. -- Grace Murray Hopper - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-10.tmb.3mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 13:18, Anne Wilson wrote: > OTOH, I had been dutifully opening a console and using su to do > maintenance jobs, but closing it to return to user. It was a year > later before anyone actually mentioned that if you type 'exit' you > don't need to close it :-) > > Anne Or Ctrl-D. Even quicker. Another Crtl-D closes the terminal if you want to. DougB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] "mailwasher" style filter/spam stopper for Evolution?
Hi, I had a look at Spamassassin but AFAICT it filters on messages already downloaded. I just finished downloading today's email, and aside from list mail which I have going to their individual folders, my inbox had 82 messages in it, and only 4 of them were not spam and/or viruses. When I was using Outlook on WIN2K, I had Mailwasher going, which I liked because I liked the idea of bounce messages going to the sender of any messages I marked as spam. Not that I think the spammers take a blind bit of notice... Is there something I can use to look at the headers and delete/bounce them before I get them from my POP server? Something automated like the Bayesian idea would be nice :) TIA -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 10:04, Charlie M. wrote: > [...snip snip] > > I'll accept the apology if you'll accept mine, then we'll call it even and > start over. OK? (-: > Even. Sounds good to me. Thanks, Charlie. > Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups -- > alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and fat. . If only the Thais understood coffee, the place would be almost perfect... :) -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] more refresh and modeline fun & follies
Hi Richard, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 6:01:57 PM, you wrote: RU> On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 4:39 am, Lance Cummings wrote: >> It's possible they are all wrong. RU> Not at all. They are all using different dot clock frequencies to give RU> you the same display. Well how about that. Truly, I never would have guessed. I sure appreciate this information, and I wonder how widely this is known. RU> I cannot find anywhere in the thread a mention of which video card RU> you're using. What is its maximum clock rate? I think I mentioned it sometime near the very beginning of this, but in any case it is an nVida based card, a GeForce4 MX440. The maximum clock rate is 350 MHz -- which I certainly did not mention, because it took me a while to find it. RU> The output of a "startx --probeonly" would be very helpful. It RU> would tell us the rates that the monitor itself was happy with RU> (if for example viewsonic changed the spec halfway through RU> production.) It would tell us the dot rates that the card was RU> capable of, and it might even tell us the specifications of the RU> sync pulses. Okay I had no success with "startx --probeonly". I tried it just about as many ways as I could think of to try it. Maybe it *was* doing what it was supposed to do, and I just did not realize it. In any case, I get X opening, to a desktop I've not seen before. (I tried this both as lance and as root.) Do I need to pipe the output to a file? If so, can you specify the command? RU> If you were you, I'd try all three. If one works then we don't RU> need to bother going any further. If not then send me the output RU> of "startx --probeonly" and I'll extract the interesting bits for RU> the list (IIRC it's rather long.) And also post the spec of the RU> video card. As for trying them, I'm not sure exactly how to do it. There seems to only be 3 modelines at all in XF86Config-4. These modelines do not seem related to the frequency I'm running at, but seem to be for a Sony laptop and some TV settings. Well, I'll give it a go and see what happens. One thing you might clarify for me: It is my suspicion that only rather prolonged running of the monitor (more than 2 or 3 minutes at least) at specifications it's not designed for would damage it. Is that right? If so, I can feel a bit freer to experiment, because I do know how to set the file back. But if I'm risking permanent damage by simply trying a modeline that is wrong, I'd rather not fool around. Thanks for your help, Lance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] installing anacron - newbie question...
In the thread: Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 14:35, RichardA wrote: > [...snip] > While you're at it, install anacron, too, unless you leave your computer > on 24/7. When you boot, it starts the tasks that cron didn't do whilst > the PC was off. This includes an updatedb every day. Sorry, I don't know where to go next from here... I got slocate installed ok but not anacron: [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# urpmi anacron no package named anacron [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# locate anacron /etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/8anacron Interestingly, I thought I'd have a look at cron itself to see what it's [not] been doing. but even though locate cron brings pages of results, cron itself doesn't seem to want to run: [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# cron bash: cron: command not found Could you perhaps point me to some reading material that explains cron/anacron installation and use? TIA, -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 1:37 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:18:10 +0100 > > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OTOH, I had been dutifully opening a console and using su to do > > maintenance jobs, but closing it to return to user. It was a > > year later before anyone actually mentioned that if you type > > 'exit' you don't need to close it :-) > > Not to mention how long it took to find out how to get the terminal > back after doing > $ man > Oh, yes! I enjoyed that particular one for a *very* long time Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] refresh rate
Scott wrote: Actually it's probably /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 on your system. this is what I have in there .. what / where do I have to add to set it to 85? (I don't know my monitor type .. so I selected soemthing generic) --- Section "Monitor" Identifier "monitor1" VendorName "Generic" ModelName "1024x768 @ 70 Hz" HorizSync 31.5-57.0 VertRefresh 50-70 # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)? # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync ModeLine "1024x480"65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync -vsync # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616 EndSection Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] more refresh and modeline fun & follies
On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 4:39 am, Lance Cummings wrote: > First, a quick thank you to everyone that's chipped in on this. > > I've run across, and also been pointed toward, several modeline > generators. I present to you three of them: > > 1. http://www.sh.nu/nvidia/gtf.php > > 2. http://www.dkfz-heidelberg.de/spec/linux/modeline/modeline2.cgi > > 3. http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl > > All of them offer to pump out a modeline for you after you input the > values of the Fh and Fv ranges, and the resolution and refresh you > want to run at. Wow, what convenience. > > Using the values of Fh = 30-97, Fv = 50-160, and 1024x768 and 100 Hz > refresh however (you know what is coming, right? ) produces the > following three DIFFERENT modeline calculations: (numbers correspond > to the URLs above) > > 1. # 1024x768 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 81.40 kHz; pclk: 113.31 MHz > Modeline "1024x768_100.00" 113.31 1024 1096 1208 1392 768 769 > 772 814 -HSync +Vsync > > 2. # V-freq: 100.00 Hz // h-freq: 81.70 KHz > Modeline "1024x768" 124.84 1024 1088 1240 1528 768 768 771 817 > > 3. Modeline "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 126.64 1024 1056 1536 1568 768 781 794 807 > > I ask you . . . are we having fun yet? The values wildly disagree > with each other, but since this is presumably a precise mathematical > calculation, only one of them can possibly be correct, but indeed > NONE of them NEED be correct of course. It's possible they are all > wrong. Not at all. They are all using different dot clock frequencies to give you the same display. > > Certainly someone in "the community" who is really "in the know" > ought to have a look at these discrepancies, I would think, and set > the record straight for everyone else? They all look reasonable to me. I dont count myself a video expert, but I do understand this much and what the numbers mean. I cannot find anywhere in the thread a mention of which video card you're using. What is its maximum clock rate? The Viewsonic website actually quotes both of the frequency ranges. the 90kHz/180Hz range on the HTML spec, and the 97kHz/160Hz on the PDF spec. Since both specify a bandwidth of 200MHz that seems safe. I don't think you need it though, it's the bandwidth of the card that you need. The output of a "startx --probeonly" would be very helpful. It would tell us the rates that the monitor itself was happy with (if for example viewsonic changed the spec halfway through production.) It would tell us the dot rates that the card was capable of, and it might even tell us the specifications of the sync pulses. > I certainly don't want to plug the wrong modeline in and fry a very > nice monitor. And I'm simply not qualified to calculate my own > modeline, since I don't clearly understand the math behind it. > Obviously, from the results above, I'm not alone on that score, and > even people who think they know what they are doing well enough to > put up programs for others to use may indeed be flailing around in > the dark. Unless I am completely mistaken about this concept (a > possibility, I readily admit) at least TWO, if not all three, of the > modelines generated above are worthless, and maybe even dangerous to > use. No. They *could* all be right, and I don't see anything to suggest that they aren't. They all choose a different dot clock frequency (113.31MHz, 124.84MHz and 126.64MHz) They could all choose a different length for the horizontal and vertical sync pulses, (I haven't done the maths.) Depending on your monitor and your video card one might be better than the others, or they all might produce the same visual effect. If you were you, I'd try all three. If one works then we don't need to bother going any further. If not then send me the output of "startx --probeonly" and I'll extract the interesting bits for the list (IIRC it's rather long.) And also post the spec of the video card. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Where to set PATH
system-wide: /etc/profile.d/local.sh (if it does not exist, create it) user: ~/.bashrc (if you use bash) raf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, In which file do I set system wide path and in which file do I set path only for specific user? Thanks in advance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Where to set PATH
Hi, In which file do I set system wide path and in which file do I set path only for specific user? Thanks in advance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
On 24 Sep 2003 05:30:42 +0700, Merlin Zener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe the helpful answerers expect things too. > Someone suggested [I'm sorry, I don't know who - Evolution is acting > up again: emails open up with blank windows - but that's a topic for > another thread] that I try "locate", but when I do, all I get is > "command not found". And "man locate" gets me "No manual entry for > locate". All I'm saying is, clearly the answerer in that case expected > I would have "locate" installed already... It may not be installed. Do "urpmi slocate" as root (slocate is the name of the improved command which replaces locate. However, "locate" still works because it is symlinked to the new command (symlink ~= shortcut)). Then, as root again, do "updatedb" to create the database it searches. When it has finished, try to locate something. While you're at it, install anacron, too, unless you leave your computer on 24/7. When you boot, it starts the tasks that cron didn't do whilst the PC was off. This includes an updatedb every day. -- "Get up and turn I loose" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
