Re: [newbie] How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files
On Monday 29 Sep 2003 2:33 am, Merlin Zener wrote: > On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 20:19, Anne Wilson wrote: > > [...snip] > > > > Install Acrobat. It's on the disks, and it gives you very good > > control of printing, including scaled printing. > > what do I do when rpmdrake doesn't find it? > I searched in files, names, and descriptions, with "all packages" > selected, search results (none). > It's on the International disk. I have the PowerPack, so sometimes I accidentally mislead people like this :-) But I would think it would be downloadable. Have you got all your sources configured? Hint - google 'easy urpmi' There's also a tarball on Adobe's Acrobat Reader site. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:41, Todd Slater wrote: > I finally got around to making the RPM's for XFce 4.0, available at > http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ as always. WHAT A GUY! Gee, mate, you're a sport! Good on ya! Hip hip hoorah! Todd's neater than sliced bread! Kudos! Nudos! Das ist gut! Muy bien! Yowzah! Geewillickers! stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Come, you spirits That tend on mortal thoughts, unsex me here, And fill me, from the crown to the toe, top-full Of direst cruelty! make thick my blood, Stop up the access and passage to remorse That no compunctious visiting of nature Shake my fell purpose, not keep peace between The effect and it! Come to my woman's breasts, And take my milk for gall, you murdering ministers, Wherever in your sightless substances You wait on nature's mischief! Come, thick night, And pall the in the dunnest smoke of hell, That my keen knife see not the wound it makes, Nor heaven peep through the blanket of the dark, To cry `Hold, hold!' -- Lady MacBeth Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Exploits (Was: keep password broken?)
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:18, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Sunday 28 September 2003 10:55 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 02:59, Charlie M. wrote: > > > I'm just a noob. :-) > > > > I'm just a boob. > > > > stephen kuhn - owner > > Well, aren't you two a pair! > > Hehehehehehe! :- What - a noob and a boob? Or a noob a boob and another boob? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- On-line, adj.: The idea that a human being should always be accessible to a computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Radio Control Sims
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 12:22, Aron Smith wrote: > > > I'm surprised ya ain't doing the practise with "tie offs" like a friend > > of mine did - that way the chopper was protected and he got heaps of > > practise.. > well right now I have a hula-hoop tyewired to the skids to extend the > gear wy out main problem is It's an Electric Chopper and they are > kinda logy as to response Hmmm...what about getting a lighter hoolahoop? (or make one outta styrofoam?) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Q: Where's the Lone Ranger take his garbage? A: To the dump, to the dump, to the dump dump dump! Q: What's the Pink Panther say when he steps on an ant hill? A: Dead ant, dead ant, dead ant dead ant dead ant... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Has X had it's day?
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 12:16, HaywireMac wrote: > Very interesting document, a little over my head...okay, wy over my > head, but he makes some good points at the outset about X and it's age > beginning to show. > > http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~mbt99/Y/report/MarkThomas.pdf I snagged that the day it came out and started poking through it - quite a good read if you're into the technical stuff - and yes, X's day has to come eventually - but don't reckon it's going to be anytime soon as it will require a HUGE overhaul - unless "Y" is already in the works and mostly done...but I don't think that's happening yet neither... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- All things are possible, except for skiing through a revolving door. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Bluebird 8.2
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 21:32, HaywireMac wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:29:52 -0700 > Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > The fact that he was able to get netzero to work with linux is an > > achievement > > and this has *what* to do with Hijacked Threads? Withdrawal symptoms eh? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Bluebird 8.2
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:29:52 -0700 Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > The fact that he was able to get netzero to work with linux is an > achievement and this has *what* to do with Hijacked Threads? -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ "I gained nothing at all from Supreme Enlightenment, and for that very reason it is called Supreme Enlightenment." -- Gotama Buddha Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Bluebird 8.2
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 20:28, HaywireMac wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:24:36 -0700 > Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > He mentioned it read da post mon > > unless it was in invisible ink, I don't think he mentioned Hijacked > Threads: > > "I have managed to install Mandrake 8.2 and I am running evolution for > my mail program. Probably gonna get another> netzero.net account >linux mail setup. But a question I have for you. I installed ftp server > and www server on my linux box which I have behind a NAT Router til i > figure out what I am doing. The fact that he was able to get netzero to work with linux is an achievement > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Netwatch replacement.
I was unable to compile netwatch on the cooker box. Does any one knows good tools which will report same information as netwatch? It is necessary to see packets from/to each computer on the switched network. For people who does not know netwatch is a software for monitoring switched network traffic. Extremely good in monitoring for packet storms. http://www.slctech.org/~mackay/netwatch.html -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] XFce 4.0
I finally got around to making the RPM's for XFce 4.0, available at http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ as always. t Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] latter day update
I finally got around to moving from 8.1 to 9.1 this weekend (I know 9.2 is just around the corner). It all went off without a hitch, except, I can't seem to play music cd's. It is not a sound issue, all other audio devices work. It just don't see the music cd's. I'm guessing it is a supermount issue or something. Anyone know any tricks? And to all that responded to my earlier question about the Nvidia utility, thanks, yanc that's the one I was trying to remember. Richard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Bluebird 8.2
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:24:36 -0700 Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > He mentioned it read da post mon unless it was in invisible ink, I don't think he mentioned Hijacked Threads: "I have managed to install Mandrake 8.2 and I am running evolution for my mail program. Probably gonna get another netzero.net account for my linux mail setup. But a question I have for you. I installed ftp server and www server on my linux box which I have behind a NAT Router til i figure out what I am doing. What are the commands I need to run to open up my web server and my ftp server. i want to set up directories so that people can come and download files and also see my website I am playing with. I also would care to know if i want to setup a mail server and give my linux box a static address or is there a program that I can use to setup as a relay to my mail server. Lots of questions I have. Wanting to learn despirately. Gee I wish i knew where my linux geek computer book was at.." -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Sometimes even to live is an act of courage. -- Seneca Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Bluebird 8.2
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 18:05, HaywireMac wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:12:18 -0400 > "K. Spress" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > > Hijacked threads...read all about 'em: He mentioned it read da post mon > > http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Radio Control Sims
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 19:54, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 23:56, Aron Smith wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 03:13, Richard Urwin wrote: > > > On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 2:13 pm, Aron Smith wrote: > > > > Anybody know of a linux port of a R/C trainer system ? There are several > > > > on the market but they all use Win$ux %-0 > > > > Crashing this Helicopter is getting expensive. > > > > > > There's a Playstation game called R/C Copter, or something similar. I found it > > > too hard, so it might be a good sim :-) It seemed realistic, but then I've > > > never flown a real one. > > Most of the games are too easy Choppers are nasty mean twitchy b***hes . > > I am looking for one where I can use the Transmitter in Buddy Box mode > > plugged into the game port. > > I'm surprised ya ain't doing the practise with "tie offs" like a friend > of mine did - that way the chopper was protected and he got heaps of > practise.. well right now I have a hula-hoop tyewired to the skids to extend the gear wy out main problem is It's an Electric Chopper and they are kinda logy as to response > . > > stephen kuhn - owner > == > illawarra computer services > a kuhn media australia company > http://kma.0catch.com > -- > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents > -- > I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else. -- > Winston Churchill > > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remember the GPL?
On Sunday 28 September 2003 09:13 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > When I become Supreme Ruler of the Universe, it will become obligatory that > no one be allowed to refer to the GPL without certifying that they have > read and understood the document in its entirety. Those who do not comply > will be forced to run MicroSoft Bob for all Eternity. You've been warned... > > -- cmg (who has also been known to run his mouth before his brain was > engaged) MicroSCOst Bob! I remember that lamo piece of ... Ugly, as in dog -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Has X had it's day?
On Sunday 28 September 2003 10:16 pm, HaywireMac wrote: > Very interesting document, a little over my head...okay, wy over my > head, but he makes some good points at the outset about X and it's age > beginning to show. > > http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~mbt99/Y/report/MarkThomas.pdf You should get Linux Magazine/Linux Journal - they covered this subject sometime in the last year, IIRC... -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Exploits (Was: keep password broken?)
On Sunday 28 September 2003 10:55 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 02:59, Charlie M. wrote: > > I'm just a noob. :-) > > I'm just a boob. > > stephen kuhn - owner Well, aren't you two a pair! Hehehehehehe! :- -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 recording! not yet...
Did you try K3B? That is th BEST software I have found for Linux. It beats Nero IMHO. Cheers Jason Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote: Thanks all that helped me me but on Linux I wasn't able to record mp3 files with all those directories and track order! Tried that on "another" strangeware and it worked out really fine!!! That was with NERO! How can't I burn a CD like THAT on Linux? I know I have to record it as data but, how can I keep the track and directories order on Linux? Tried everything, from console to all available burning software Any help? Ricardo Castanho Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mp3 recording! not yet...
Thanks all that helped me me but on Linux I wasn't able to record mp3 files with all those directories and track order! Tried that on "another" strangeware and it worked out really fine!!! That was with NERO! How can't I burn a CD like THAT on Linux? I know I have to record it as data but, how can I keep the track and directories order on Linux? Tried everything, from console to all available burning software Any help? Ricardo Castanho -- == Linux user # 102240 => [EMAIL PROTECTED] user => [EMAIL PROTECTED] == AntiVir for UNIX Copyright (C) 1994-2002 by H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH. All rights reserved. For more information see http://www.antivir.de/ or http://www.hbedv.com/ Mon, 29 Sep 2003 00:00:00 -0300 00:00:00 up 3 days, 11:33, 3 users, load average: 1.92, 1.51, 1.36 People are unconditionally guaranteed to be full of defects. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Not anymore! Re: [newbie] USB PALM Sync woes continue
On Friday 26 September 2003 17:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:50:38 -0700 MIne is working just fine now! I just followed the hints on that page sent to us! THANKS YOU ALL! The only thing really important is that software: pilot-xfer and the links suggested on that page! Happy user now! Ricardo Castanho > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: > > I doubt that visor & usb-uhc1 should be unused. I've spent over 10 > > hours trying to get this to work, scouring google, and I've come to > > the conclusion that something's good and broken. The palm is set to > > use USB for sync, every instruction has been followed and refollowed. > > I'm out of ideas. > > I'm really really sorry if this is a repetition or if it's been tried > already, but just in case, you may need to type first: > > export PILOTPORT=/dev/ttyUSB1 > > I missed the rest of the thread, so, again, sorry if that's old crap. > =-=-= > > No joy with that, but thanks. No matter what I can't get the Palm to Bind. > (The USB ports are working fine with USBLookup, but the Palm comes up as > "Unknown device" when I hit the hotsync button, and nothing when I don't. > A smart media card reader plugged into the same port works fine.) > > About a week ago you directed me to the excellent instructions to be found > at http://www.linuxpda.com/visor/howto/current/introduction.html. I > followed the directions, spent over 8 hours scouring the web for other > sites with hints, tried, tried and tried again, but I'm just not having any > luck and I'm so much the newbie that I don't even know what's not working. > Here are the steps I've taken and the results, in the order given by the > above document. > > Modprobe Visor (as root) > Results in no error message. This supposedly indicates that the distro has > been compiled with the appropriate support. I can supposedly skip to the > Synch section of the document. > > As root: > cd ~ > mkdir visorbackup > pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -b visorbackup > > Results: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -b visorbackup > >ERROR: No such device (19) > >Press the HotSync button first and relaunch this conduit.. > >Unable to bind to port: /dev/ttyUSB1 >Please use --help for more information > >[Help provides nothing I can see related to getting "no such device" to >"bind to port".] > >Alright, so this distro should've had appropriate support but >something's wrong, I'll go back to the part that was skipped and do that >stuff. Here's what I'm running, btw: Linux version 2.4.21-0.13mdk >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2.2 >(Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.2-3mdk)) #1 Fri Mar 14 15:08:06 EST 2003. > >Ok, so back to the supposedly unnecessary "configuring the kernal" part >of the above document: > >lspci -v > >[results in learning that I have a UHCI controller] > >Then there's some stuff about configuring and making my kernal. I >don't understand this, shouldn't need to be changing the most central >elements of the OS (afik) and so I haven't messed with that at all. > >Then there's a bit about usbdevfs, but iirc when I looked at /etc/fstab, >that entry was already in there. This would probably explain why >USBLookup is working excellently with my other USB device. > >Then making /dev entries [root]: >mknod /dev/ttyUSB0 c 188 0 [repeated for 4 USB ports (0-3)). >chmod 666 /dev/ttyUSB* > >cd /dev >ln -s /dev/ttyUSB1 pilot >ln -s /dev/ttyUSB1 palm > >/sbin/modprobe usb-uhci >/sbin/modprobe visor > >[push the hotsync button] >pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -b visorbackup > >ERROR: No such device (19) > >Press the HotSync button first and relaunch this conduit.. > >Unable to bind to port: /dev/ttyUSB1 >Please use --help for more information > > >Bleh! Any advice appreciated. > > > USB ports work, the seems to be that the OS doesn't realize that I *have* > already pushed the hotsync button (yes, the button works). Yes, the palm > device is set up to sync USB at 9600 with auto flow control. > >-- clueless newbie without a synced palm -- == Linux user # 102240 => [EMAIL PROTECTED] user => [EMAIL PROTECTED] == AntiVir for UNIX Copyright (C) 1994-2002 by H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH. All rights reserved. For more information see http://www.antivir.de/ or http://www.hbedv.com/ Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:55:00 -0300 23:55:00 up 3 days, 11:28, 4 users, load average: 1.55, 1.35, 1.31 Your picture of the world often changes just before you get it into focus. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Exploits (Was: keep password broken?)
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 02:59, Charlie M. wrote: > I'm just a noob. :-) I'm just a boob. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- If you would keep a secret from an enemy, tell it not to a friend. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Radio Control Sims
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 23:56, Aron Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 03:13, Richard Urwin wrote: > > On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 2:13 pm, Aron Smith wrote: > > > Anybody know of a linux port of a R/C trainer system ? There are several > > > on the market but they all use Win$ux %-0 > > > Crashing this Helicopter is getting expensive. > > > > There's a Playstation game called R/C Copter, or something similar. I found it > > too hard, so it might be a good sim :-) It seemed realistic, but then I've > > never flown a real one. > Most of the games are too easy Choppers are nasty mean twitchy b***hes . > I am looking for one where I can use the Transmitter in Buddy Box mode > plugged into the game port. I'm surprised ya ain't doing the practise with "tie offs" like a friend of mine did - that way the chopper was protected and he got heaps of practise... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else. -- Winston Churchill Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nvidia Tweak Utility
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 04:14, Richard Hackwith wrote: > I remember seeing something once about a utility program for adjusting > nvidia cards, but can't remember the name. Can anyone remember, and > know where to find it? It's called "yanc" (yet another nvidia configurator) I'd tell ya the REAL filename, but my server's motherboard died last night and obviously I can't access anything until I replace it later today... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Be sociable. Speak to the person next to you in the unemployment line tomorrow. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Has X had it's day?
Very interesting document, a little over my head...okay, wy over my head, but he makes some good points at the outset about X and it's age beginning to show. http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~mbt99/Y/report/MarkThomas.pdf -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Kindness is the beginning of cruelty. -- Muad'dib [Frank Herbert, "Dune"] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] When will 9.1 dry up?
On Sunday 28 September 2003 03:12 pm, rikona wrote: > Hello newbie, > > I got 9.0 in a box when 9.1 was just coming out. After a period of > learning, I tried to get some additional programs for 9.0, but found > almost all were for 9.1, and some did NOT work with 9.0. It was as > though the 9.0 code had dried up and blown away. > > I'm running 9.1 now. How long will it be before the same thing happens > and 9.1 code becomes hard to find? > > I've been getting others interested in Mandrake. Many are fed up with > the Win problems and want a change. They are VERY newbie-ish though - > some even have trouble running Win. Should I give them 9.1 (more > stable?) or 9.2? Rikona: Start them in 9.1 so that you'll be better able to answer their inevitable pleas for help. You can introduce them to 9.2 after you've had a chance to become familiar with it, and thereby earn yourself further guru points. My experience has been that each new Mandrake version is a marked improvement over its predecessor, but there are always some gotchas that take a few weeks to get sorted out. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] keep password broken?
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:41:34 -0400, yankl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bad idea, If your computer connected to the Internet. Even though, the > number of viruses/trojans for LINUX is miniscule it not 0. Given all > user root rights will increase chance for getting your box compromise. > I was responding to "absolutely no one can get near my computer", but you're right, if it's connected to the net, that isn't true. Oh, and I worked out the $PATH thing, I just asked... $sudo $PATH Now I get it, sudo uses my user account $PATH, not root's, which is why I have to specify /sbin. Richard -- "Get up and turn I loose" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 20:19, Anne Wilson wrote: > [...snip] > > Install Acrobat. It's on the disks, and it gives you very good > control of printing, including scaled printing. > what do I do when rpmdrake doesn't find it? I searched in files, names, and descriptions, with "all packages" selected, search results (none). TIA, -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remember the GPL?
On Sunday 28 September 2003 01:26 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> whack > My question was not rhetorical at all. Although wrongdoing was > improbable I found it necessary to ask the question. From the answers > that followed I found that my understanding of the issues was not complete. > > Thanx, > > Ayoub890 Ayoub890: You can read the GPL at http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html#SEC1. You will find that it is amazingly simple and straightforward, blessedly devoid of legalese. When I become Supreme Ruler of the Universe, it will become obligatory that no one be allowed to refer to the GPL without certifying that they have read and understood the document in its entirety. Those who do not comply will be forced to run MicroSoft Bob for all Eternity. You've been warned... -- cmg (who has also been known to run his mouth before his brain was engaged) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nigerian Scam on newbie
Ralph Slooten wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:58:31 + Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That alarms me, Charles. Who have I spammed using the built-in "bounce"-function in KMail ? Nobody other than he himself. If ya read the e-mail, he resquests you reply to the e-mail, and gives another if need be. "YOU CAN CONTACT ME IMMEDIATELY FOR MORE DETIALS WITH THE ABOVE EMAIL ADDRESS OR [EMAIL PROTECTED]" Greetings Ralph -- http://axljab.homelinux.org/ "...the software said Win95 or better, so I installed Linux" I forwarded his financial offer to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Maybe they will shut his water off ... if anyone there ever checks the file the robot builds. Harv /AI9NL Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Bluebird 8.2
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:12:18 -0400 "K. Spress" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: Hijacked threads...read all about 'em: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Not every question deserves an answer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?
On Sunday 28 September 2003 07:37 pm, Margot wrote: > yankl wrote: > > On Sunday 28 September 2003 06:29 pm, Margot wrote: > >>Anne Wilson wrote: > >>>On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 7:38 pm, Margot wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > >On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 11:37 pm, Margot wrote: > >>Dennis Myers wrote: > >>>On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > Margot is having a problem. If you use AC97 on-board sound, > will you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and > what driver it is using? Thanks > > Anne > >>> > >>>I have AC97 on-board running and it uses snd-via82xx as the > >>>driver Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with > >>>grip, not xmms. Sorry not much help. > >> > >>Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at > >>least it recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which > >>is more than I get from xmms. Still no sound though > > > >In xmms, on the left-hand, barely visible menu panel, right-click > >on the + at the top. Select Play Location, and type in > >/mnt/cdrom or whatever yours is called. Let us know whether that > >worked. > > > >Anne > > Partial success: it wouldn't take /mnt/cdrom but I had a look at a > helpful page the Derek Jennings suggested on another thread which > suggested that it might be under /dev. That worked, so now xmms > gives me a track listing, and appears to play the CD, but still no > sound. > > Aumix and Kmix are both unmuted, but still no sound - someone > suggested I might need to adjust alsamixergui too, but it isn't > working - see attached. > > Margot > >>> > >>>If you haven't already done so, check out the Install Software list > >>>and install anything that starts with alsa--- > >>> > >>>Anne > >> > >>I've now installed everything I could find for alsa, and alsamixergui is > >>now visible - but I still have no sound. > > > > Have you tryed to run sndconfig again? > > Yes. Still the same result - it only finds the SB Live card that I > haven't got (!) and then tells me the card is not supported. post your /etc/modules.conf -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 7:38 pm, Margot wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 11:37 pm, Margot wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Margot is having a problem. If you use AC97 on-board sound, will you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is using? Thanks Anne I have AC97 on-board running and it uses snd-via82xx as the driver Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with grip, not xmms. Sorry not much help. Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at least it recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which is more than I get from xmms. Still no sound though In xmms, on the left-hand, barely visible menu panel, right-click on the + at the top. Select Play Location, and type in /mnt/cdrom or whatever yours is called. Let us know whether that worked. Anne Partial success: it wouldn't take /mnt/cdrom but I had a look at a helpful page the Derek Jennings suggested on another thread which suggested that it might be under /dev. That worked, so now xmms gives me a track listing, and appears to play the CD, but still no sound. Aumix and Kmix are both unmuted, but still no sound - someone suggested I might need to adjust alsamixergui too, but it isn't working - see attached. Margot If you haven't already done so, check out the Install Software list and install anything that starts with alsa--- Anne I've now installed everything I could find for alsa, and alsamixergui is now visible - but I still have no sound. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nigerian Scam on newbie
On Sunday 28 September 2003 07:58 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Sunday 28 September 2003 09:41 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > > > The fact that you did not receive a "message undeliverable" to > > your bounce means that you have successfully 'spammed' an > > innocent victim. > > > > That alarms me, Charles. Who have I spammed using the built-in > "bounce"-function in KMail ? > > As far as I can see, my ISPs mail delivery system tries to return > a message as undeliverable to the sender only. If that sender is > invalid, it notifies me, and me only. > > In case the senders address is valid - and that address is > spoofed - what's the whole idea ? - If I'm stupid enough to > respond to the spam and actually want to get ripped off by some > Nigerian crook, then my answer seems to get into /dev/null, eh ? Unless the actual reply address is listed in the body, rather than the From header. Because no spammer is going to put his real email address in the From header of his email. Usually they use a real address to get past mail servers that check if the originating from address is valid, but it is not actually theirs. However, in the case of Nigerian scams, it most likely was their real address, albeit pointed at a free email account that is basically throwaway. Your bounce message, however, is worthless. The bounce is based on the assumption that the scammer will actually try to clean his list by removing dead addresses. In almost all cases, they are using a variety of methods to target, most likely an alphabet approach where they try every possible letter combination with last name per provider hoping to hit someone. In that case, your bounce message is ignored and you will still get sent the next version when they get around to doing it. Even if they have your name on a real list somewhere, it takes real effort to clean the list and since they are involved in an illegal activity anyway, they usually wouldn't bother. Criminals are criminals because they are lazy. Nigerian scammers usually use a real From address but spammers almost never use their own from address so bounce messages are actually delivered to an innocent party who didn't spam you, he just got unlucky enough to have his email address used by a spammer. I have had this done to me several times in retaliation for complaining to get spammers accounts canceled. In cases where messages such as that start arriving, I simply filter them to /dev/null. > > If I'm wrong, then what's the "bounce" function for, anyway ? At one time, someone thought that sending a bounce message back to the originator would cause them to remove your name attempting to increase their efficiency by cleaning out dead addresses from their lists. Way back with people like Spamford, that might have actually worked. Those days are long gone now. The new crop of spammers are much less professional than guys like Spamford Wallace and they are no longer interested in efficiency but rather on getting as much traffic out of the account before it gets closed. They have absolutely nothing to gain by removing dead names, they get paid by the number of messages they send, not by the number delivered so most of them have no financial incentive to put together clean lists, use their real addresses, or get any reply traffic that is not an actual order for their dubious products, much less receive a bounce and actually process that bounce. Since ISP's watch for traffic and would regard a large number of bounce messages as default reason to shut down an account for spamming, most would not their own email address in the From field even if they did have an interest in cleaning their list. It makes it too easy to lose their connectivity. That function would have been useful about 2 or 3 years ago, it no longer is. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nigerian Scam on newbie
On Sunday 28 September 2003 05:41 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:37:08 + > > Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dennis, I just pressed "bounce" immediately. Sometimes that > > doesn't work and shortly thereafter I'll get a "message > > undeliverable" reply from my smtp server. But this time I > > haven't got it, so I presume the spammer got the message > > 9 times out 10 with this type of spam the spammer is using a spoofed > address. > > The fact that you did not receive a "message undeliverable" to your > bounce means that you have successfully 'spammed' an innocent victim. > > If spam concerns you use Spamassassin or other such program to > scan your mail. > > When the occasions arise where spam slinks through your filters, control > your lust for retribution. > The prudent course of action is usually the wisest and most efficient, > simply delete it. If you really do want to do something to hurt the spammer, learn how to read and decipher mail headers so that you can track the originating source. Usually, this is also some clueless innocent user who has either allowed their proxy server to be used by others without control, or allowed their mail server to relay messages, or as I have been seeing more and more recently, someone with a cable modem or DSL whose machine has been compromised by one of the recent viruses or worms and who is now being used as an open relay by spammers. You can notify the ISP and get the source machine closed down, at least temporarily disrupting spam operations. For some, this is a lot of trouble for very little gain since at most it is merely inconveniencing the spammer, but I do it because a little trouble still raises the cost of their operations and the whole point is to make the diminishing returns more expensive so that they will go on to some other kind of lowlife activity, like scamming senior citizens from boiler rooms with teleslime. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nigerian Scam on newbie
On Sunday 28 September 2003 09:41 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > The fact that you did not receive a "message undeliverable" to > your bounce means that you have successfully 'spammed' an > innocent victim. > That alarms me, Charles. Who have I spammed using the built-in "bounce"-function in KMail ? As far as I can see, my ISPs mail delivery system tries to return a message as undeliverable to the sender only. If that sender is invalid, it notifies me, and me only. In case the senders address is valid - and that address is spoofed - what's the whole idea ? - If I'm stupid enough to respond to the spam and actually want to get ripped off by some Nigerian crook, then my answer seems to get into /dev/null, eh ? If I'm wrong, then what's the "bounce" function for, anyway ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *This mail was sent from a 100 % Microsoft free computer* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] browsing, browsing, over the bounding main
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 12:41 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: > You will find many sites that do not look the same in a standards > compliant browser as they do in Internet Explorer. You will also > come across many sites who test what browser you are using and then > present you with a page suggesting you "upgrade" to Internet > Explorer. > We get these issues because Microsoft design the tools to build > these pages and deliberately make them non IE hostile. It is a > legacy of the "browser wars". > I'm getting an awful lot of duplicates today :-) BTW, I agree with what you said Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nvidia Tweak Utility
Richard Hackwith wrote: I remember seeing something once about a utility program for adjusting nvidia cards, but can't remember the name. Can anyone remember, and know where to find it? yanc Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.22-10 KDE 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nvidia Tweak Utility
On 27 Sep 2003 11:14:23 -0700 Richard Hackwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > I remember seeing something once about a utility program for adjusting > nvidia cards, but can't remember the name. Can anyone remember, and > know where to find it? urpmi yanc -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Remember, Grasshopper, falling down 1000 stairs begins by tripping over the first one. -- Confusion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nigerian Scam on newbie
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:37:08 + Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dennis, I just pressed "bounce" immediately. Sometimes that > doesn't work and shortly thereafter I'll get a "message > undeliverable" reply from my smtp server. But this time I > haven't got it, so I presume the spammer got the message 9 times out 10 with this type of spam the spammer is using a spoofed address. The fact that you did not receive a "message undeliverable" to your bounce means that you have successfully 'spammed' an innocent victim. If spam concerns you use Spamassassin or other such program to scan your mail. When the occasions arise where spam slinks through your filters, control your lust for retribution. The prudent course of action is usually the wisest and most efficient, simply delete it. Charles -- You will have a head crash on your private pack. - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-10.tmb.4mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re[2]: [newbie] When will 9.1 dry up?
On Sunday 28 September 2003 03:24 pm, rikona wrote: > Hello Charlie, > > Sunday, September 28, 2003, 12:39:36 PM, you wrote: > >> I got 9.0 in a box when 9.1 was just coming out. After a period of > >> learning, I tried to get some additional programs for 9.0, but > >> found almost all were for 9.1, and some did NOT work with 9.0. It > >> was as though the 9.0 code had dried up and blown away. > > CM> What code? What programs? > > Don't remember all of them now, but included Office, Opera, Sylpheed, > Pan, Octave, Gnucash, and many others. > > >> I'm running 9.1 now. How long will it be before the same thing happens > >> and 9.1 code becomes hard to find? > > CM> What code? What programs? > > Not sure what new ones I'll want, but when I tried to find some of the > above for 9.0, it was essentially impossible to find. I wrote to the > list, and others were not able to find them either. Turned out there > were 9.1 versions readily available, but not 9.0. Easiest solution was > to reinstall 9.1 so I COULD get the programs. Did you look in the Club directory under Official Mandrake Linux updates, Club Contributions, and Commercial Packages. There is a tree that includes 9.0 packages in every case. Not sure if all the packages are there but there are a large number available. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] more refresh and modeline fun & follies
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:07:29 +, Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you, (or anyone else) have any suggestions for an automated backup > to CD-RW that I could fit and forget I would love to hear about it. > Part of the problem is that it is so labour intensive to do the > backup. If I had a tape drive I know I could do it. Mondo Backup (http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo/) Richard -- "Get up and turn I loose" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ATI 8500DV AIW video drivers
Kelly McCormick wrote: Hello everyone, Is there anybody out there with some experience with this card under ML9.1? At a minimum, I would like to get the 3D acceleration and the TV tuner functions working. It is my understanding that the ATI drivers will provide GL acceleration but will do nothing for any of the other functions of this card and that the Gatos drivers can provide atleast nearly full funtionality to this card under linux. I have also found reports that the ATI drivers may work better for the 3D acceleration than the ati.2 gatos drivers provide? Any thoughts or experience on this subject? Also, is it possible to mix and match the drivers to use ATI's own drivers for 3D Accelation and the Gatos drivers for the TV tuner, tivo functions, remote, etc.? I have also noted that ATI's driver rpm "fglrx-glc22-4.2.0-2.5.1.i586.rpm" is built for glibc 2.2 and their check.sh script reports that I have glibc 2.3, as I understand it this shouldn't be a problem, but I'm wondering if there is a better rpm to use? or a better solution? During my attempts to decipher the gatos website I have gotten the impression that these drivers are intended to be used with XFree86 version 4.1.0 and work atleast somewhat with 4.2.0, what is this going to mean to me since I am running 4.3.0? The more information I find, the more confused I become on this entire video driver subject. If someone can point me in the right direction here, I'd really appreciate it. What I'm really looking for is any advice on how to get the best results with this card, and a heads up on any problems that I can expect to run into. If there are any good information sources on this that could help clear some of these things up, please let me know where to find them. below are the results of running the check.sh script from the ATI website, if there is any further information that I can provide that will help with this discussion, please let me know what you need and since it's likely that I don't know, how to find that info. = ATI Technologies = Checking which OS you're running... uname reports 'Linux' version '2.4.21-0.13mdk', architecture 'i686'. Object format is 'ELF'. libc version is '6.3'. XFree86 Version 4.3.0 is installed. No package available for glibc 2.3. Try fglrx-glibc22.tgz Binary package name is 'fglrx-glibc21.tgz' Thanks in advance for any and all help provided. I know I'm asking for a lot of info here but as I said, now that I have been looking into this for a while, I am no longer even sure where to start. RTFM one too many times I guess. Dax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I just discovered that there is a gatos rpm on the 9.1 cd's "disk 2", don't know how I missed finding that before. Anyway, it is supposed to provide tv tuner functions among other things for the all in wonder cards, so I installed it. I have since had to boot back to xp hence now that I'm running mandrake again, everything has been restarted. I'm not sure what I was expecting, but I thought there might at least be a watch tv option somewhere on a menu someplace? KDE if your wondering. Anyway, no such luck. Checked to see if MCC would now find my tuner, it didn't before and still doesn't. checked man page for gatos and found that it should have installed; - xatitv : GUI "TV in a window" application. - atitv : Simple text-mode program. - gatos-conf : GUI GATOS configuration application. Funny, I thought that AVview would have been in there somewhere but apparently not. When I tried to run xatitv, it returned xatitv: relocation error: xatitv: undefined symbol: __7IWindowPcT1PUlii so I thought maybe I need to configure first, so I tried gatos-conf. gatos-conf: relocation error: gatos-conf: undefined symbol: __7IWindowPciiT1 A quick google for this undefined symbol error turned up a thread on the cooker list archives stating that the gatos rpm does not work in 9.1. Curious, is it normal to include rpm's on the distribution disks that don't work with the distribution it's included in??? Anybody know what's going on here? Dax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nigerian Scam on newbie
On Sunday 28 September 2003 08:47 pm, robin wrote: > rikona wrote: > >Hello Kaj, > > > >Sunday, September 28, 2003, 12:37:08 PM, you wrote: > > > >KH> On Sunday 28 September 2003 03:40 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > >>>Hi all, I just got the Nigerian e-mail scam addressed to > >>> the newbie list, so I presume everyone else also recieved > >>> it. It filtered to my spam collector but I wonder if there > >>> is a way for Mandrake to filter these? Can they use > >>> Spamassassin on their mail server? > >>>Time to be vewy vewy qwiet and go hunting spammers. > > > >KH> Dennis, I just pressed "bounce" immediately. > > > >Is that a good idea? It would seem that it just verifies the > > address as active, assuming this was just a scan for > > addresses. > > Depends on the bounce message. > > Sir Robin Exactly. The spammer won't be able to see other addresses then my ISP's mail delivery system. That's the whole idea. The spammer will see something like : "Message returned as undeliverable, no such recipient". In the actual case the message was to the list, so from the spammers point of view, we don't exist. Kaj Haulrich. -- *This mail was sent from a 100 % Microsoft free computer* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No network connection trouble.
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 16:57, One Dot wrote: > I like to know what is going on here? > I have two machines both running 9.1 one is configured dhcp and running just > fine, the other a laptop is running with static ip, but not running so fine, > I think I have everything configured the same, netmask network gateway etc. I > can ping from pc to laptoo but not vice versa, the pc has access to the > internet over the gateway, but not the laptop. How come I can ping and get a > reply one way and not the other? > > TIA, Marc. > firewall? subnet? > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] No network connection trouble.
I like to know what is going on here? I have two machines both running 9.1 one is configured dhcp and running just fine, the other a laptop is running with static ip, but not running so fine, I think I have everything configured the same, netmask network gateway etc. I can ping from pc to laptoo but not vice versa, the pc has access to the internet over the gateway, but not the laptop. How come I can ping and get a reply one way and not the other? TIA, Marc. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] When will 9.1 dry up?
rikona wrote: Hello Charlie, Sunday, September 28, 2003, 12:39:36 PM, you wrote: I got 9.0 in a box when 9.1 was just coming out. After a period of learning, I tried to get some additional programs for 9.0, but found almost all were for 9.1, and some did NOT work with 9.0. It was as though the 9.0 code had dried up and blown away. CM> What code? What programs? Don't remember all of them now, but included Office, Opera, Sylpheed, Pan, Octave, Gnucash, and many others. Wasn't 9.0-9.1 the time of the big version change in gcc? That could be the source of your problems - if so, it's a rare event. Other incompatibilities sometimes occur because of updated libraries, though _sometimes_ you can get round them by using the nodeps option when installing. You can nearly always find older versions on rpmfind.net . Sir Robin -- "I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next moment they may sting you. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re[2]: [newbie] When will 9.1 dry up?
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 16:24, rikona wrote: > Hello Charlie, > > Sunday, September 28, 2003, 12:39:36 PM, you wrote: > > >> I got 9.0 in a box when 9.1 was just coming out. After a period of > >> learning, I tried to get some additional programs for 9.0, but > >> found almost all were for 9.1, and some did NOT work with 9.0. It > >> was as though the 9.0 code had dried up and blown away. > > CM> What code? What programs? > > Don't remember all of them now, but included Office, Opera, Sylpheed, > Pan, Octave, Gnucash, and many others. > > >> I'm running 9.1 now. How long will it be before the same thing happens > >> and 9.1 code becomes hard to find? > > CM> What code? What programs? > > Not sure what new ones I'll want, but when I tried to find some of the > above for 9.0, it was essentially impossible to find. I wrote to the > list, and others were not able to find them either. Turned out there > were 9.1 versions readily available, but not 9.0. Easiest solution was > to reinstall 9.1 so I COULD get the programs. > > CM> So saying the code dried up and blew away is slightly misleading. > CM> Stuff is still available, you just have to know where to look. > > At the time, I asked this list, and after many attempts, some 9.0 code > could not be found. There were suggestions for compiling from source, > but that brought with it some interesting problems too. :-) > > CM> I congratulate you on actually getting the "box" for 9.0, and urge you to > CM> start those 'others' the same way if possible. > > Boxes are too hard to find, especially for the latest release. When I > bought 9.0, 9.1 was already being released. Not good. > > CM> Explain to them that there _is_ a free version for download but > CM> that there really is added value to box sets and Club membership. > > Some are on dial-up, and I'd have to give them discs. I usually > suggest that they join the club to get the goodies there. > > CM> but that isn't quite 9.2 and may cause a bad first impression. I'm > CM> sure that your focus is to present them with a happy experience > CM> and not have them snarling at you over a perceived broken > CM> operating system, am I correct? > > Absolutely, utterly crucial! If these M$ users are to like Mandrake > and make the switch, it MUST work better than Win did - BUT they are > familiar with win and know how to use it. It has to be EASY as well. > Most of these people know very little about computers - they are just > a tool. > > The MOST stable, easy-to-use code is what is needed! > > CM> A more direct answer to the "How long?" question is simply that > CM> official support for releases is 18 months. I think. (-: > > "Support" might be 18 months, in terms of supplying updates, etc, but > the apps code dried up MUCH before that in the 9.0-9.1 transition. The > club had essentially all 9.1 code shortly after 9.1 was released. not to sound like a butt head, but but had you updated sources, you would have only th urpmi what ever, they are still out there, the mirrors just change directory structure every now and then, and you can not find the rpm anymore. can't be helped, as far as I understand the shape of the planet. -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nigerian Scam on newbie
rikona wrote: Hello Kaj, Sunday, September 28, 2003, 12:37:08 PM, you wrote: KH> On Sunday 28 September 2003 03:40 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Hi all, I just got the Nigerian e-mail scam addressed to the newbie list, so I presume everyone else also recieved it. It filtered to my spam collector but I wonder if there is a way for Mandrake to filter these? Can they use Spamassassin on their mail server? Time to be vewy vewy qwiet and go hunting spammers. KH> Dennis, I just pressed "bounce" immediately. Is that a good idea? It would seem that it just verifies the address as active, assuming this was just a scan for addresses. Depends on the bounce message. Sir Robin -- "I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next moment they may sting you. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] browsing, browsing, over the bounding main
Lance Cummings wrote: Okay, before I go out and smell the dioxins, there is one item of urgent (for me, anyway) business: Please look at the following URL in both Mozilla and Konqueror: https://newtrading.etrade.ne.jp/ETGate I know you probably can't read Japanese (most of you anyway). It's okay. You will probably notice a difference between Mozilla and Konqueror right away on this page: The Mozilla implementation seems complete; some things are clearly missing in Konqueror. However, the Konqueror page seems much more readable (what there is of it) -- fonts sharper, whatever (I set my fonts larger in Konqueror, which helps dramatically, but doesn't seem to help in Mozilla). I don't see a big difference in the quality between Mozilla and Konqueror (check your font and anti-aliasing settings). Konqueror is refusing to load some links to CGI scripts, and in fact won't connect to the host at all. Sir Robin -- "I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next moment they may sting you. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 8:30 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > >On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 6:25 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > >>The printoff was fair quality,not best, even though I chose my > >> best driver, still it works. > >> > >>I am guessing that xpdf then is a pdf to postscript conversion > >>programme, > >>as well as a pdf viewer, and that the converted file format is > >> then sent to the printer > >>and ghostscript converts it to PCL3 for my dos printer. Is that > >>correct ? > > > >Have you tried pdf2ps ? > > > >Anne > > Well, I've got a /usr/bin/pdf2ps , > but it's not a graphical app, least I don't think so, > Guess someone will have to coach me on how to use it on the CL ? > > John IIRC, it's simply a matter of change to the correct directory, then pdf2ps filname Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remember the GPL?
ed tharp wrote: On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 06:48, dlwiggers wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:25:08 + Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 6:25 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What does the GPL say about the following? "Next ISOs of Mandrake 9.2 Download Edition will be available for Club Members and all people who have contributed to the new version(including developers and translators), prior to retail packs and public download release." Is this in conformance with the GPL? Yes, without a doubt. Does the GPL favor any select group or does it prohibit discrimination and restrictions? IANL the GPL neither favors, nor discriminates against any group, other than the author and users. As I understand the GPL, it does not ever make the requirement to provide the finished product, just the source code. and even then, not to the world at large for $free$ (as in free beer). Exactly - I heard this from the very mouth of Richard Stallman (who financed his move into becoming a Free Software developer by selling tapes of emacs). Mandrake are perfectly entitled to release their distribution only to paying contributors. However, the GPL allows anyone who does pay for a copy to redistribute it. Release software early to Mandrake Club members is a perfectly acceptable way to make use of that time window, and helps them give back something to people who support Mandrake financially. Sir Robin -- "I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next moment they may sting you. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] When will 9.1 dry up?
Hello Charlie, Sunday, September 28, 2003, 12:39:36 PM, you wrote: >> I got 9.0 in a box when 9.1 was just coming out. After a period of >> learning, I tried to get some additional programs for 9.0, but >> found almost all were for 9.1, and some did NOT work with 9.0. It >> was as though the 9.0 code had dried up and blown away. CM> What code? What programs? Don't remember all of them now, but included Office, Opera, Sylpheed, Pan, Octave, Gnucash, and many others. >> I'm running 9.1 now. How long will it be before the same thing happens >> and 9.1 code becomes hard to find? CM> What code? What programs? Not sure what new ones I'll want, but when I tried to find some of the above for 9.0, it was essentially impossible to find. I wrote to the list, and others were not able to find them either. Turned out there were 9.1 versions readily available, but not 9.0. Easiest solution was to reinstall 9.1 so I COULD get the programs. CM> So saying the code dried up and blew away is slightly misleading. CM> Stuff is still available, you just have to know where to look. At the time, I asked this list, and after many attempts, some 9.0 code could not be found. There were suggestions for compiling from source, but that brought with it some interesting problems too. :-) CM> I congratulate you on actually getting the "box" for 9.0, and urge you to CM> start those 'others' the same way if possible. Boxes are too hard to find, especially for the latest release. When I bought 9.0, 9.1 was already being released. Not good. CM> Explain to them that there _is_ a free version for download but CM> that there really is added value to box sets and Club membership. Some are on dial-up, and I'd have to give them discs. I usually suggest that they join the club to get the goodies there. CM> but that isn't quite 9.2 and may cause a bad first impression. I'm CM> sure that your focus is to present them with a happy experience CM> and not have them snarling at you over a perceived broken CM> operating system, am I correct? Absolutely, utterly crucial! If these M$ users are to like Mandrake and make the switch, it MUST work better than Win did - BUT they are familiar with win and know how to use it. It has to be EASY as well. Most of these people know very little about computers - they are just a tool. The MOST stable, easy-to-use code is what is needed! CM> A more direct answer to the "How long?" question is simply that CM> official support for releases is 18 months. I think. (-: "Support" might be 18 months, in terms of supplying updates, etc, but the apps code dried up MUCH before that in the 9.0-9.1 transition. The club had essentially all 9.1 code shortly after 9.1 was released. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remember the GPL?
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 6:26 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > dlwiggers wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:25:08 + > > > > Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 6:25 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>>Hi, > >>> > >>>What does the GPL say about the following? > >>> > >>>"Next ISOs of Mandrake 9.2 Download Edition will be available > >>>for Club Members and all people who have contributed to the new > >>>version(including developers and translators), prior to retail > >>>packs and public download release." > >>> > >>>Is this in conformance with the GPL? Does the GPL favor any > >>>select group or does it prohibit discrimination and > >>>restrictions? > >> > >>The GPL does not force anyone to distribute anything. I can write > >>a GPL program today and leave it on a floppy disk, undistributed, > >>or give it only to my grandma. Your next door neighbour cannot > >>come round and demand that you give him a copy of a GPL program > >>that you happen to have. The GPL only specifies what must happen > >>if and when you distribute. So my grandma could demand the source > >>code, and could post it on her website for the world to download. > >> > >>If you know someone in the Mandrake Club who has downloaded 9.2, > >>then you can ask them for a copy, and if they're nice they can > >>burn you one. Mandrake can't stop them doing that. I hope your > >>friend suggests that you join the club instead, though. > >> > >>-- > >>Richard Urwin > > > > I'm assuming the original question was rhetorical? If not, I'm > > impressed. > > > > Lee > > My question was not rhetorical at all. Although wrongdoing was > improbable I found it necessary to ask the question. From the > answers that followed I found that my understanding of the issues > was not complete. > > Thanx, > > Ayoub890 Fair enough Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 7:38 pm, Margot wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 11:37 pm, Margot wrote: > >>Dennis Myers wrote: > >>>On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > Margot is having a problem. If you use AC97 on-board sound, > will you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and > what driver it is using? Thanks > > Anne > >>> > >>>I have AC97 on-board running and it uses snd-via82xx as the > >>>driver Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with > >>>grip, not xmms. Sorry not much help. > >> > >>Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at > >> least it recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which > >> is more than I get from xmms. Still no sound though > > > > In xmms, on the left-hand, barely visible menu panel, right-click > > on the + at the top. Select Play Location, and type in > > /mnt/cdrom or whatever yours is called. Let us know whether that > > worked. > > > > Anne > > Partial success: it wouldn't take /mnt/cdrom but I had a look at a > helpful page the Derek Jennings suggested on another thread which > suggested that it might be under /dev. That worked, so now xmms > gives me a track listing, and appears to play the CD, but still no > sound. > > Aumix and Kmix are both unmuted, but still no sound - someone > suggested I might need to adjust alsamixergui too, but it isn't > working - see attached. > > Margot If you haven't already done so, check out the Install Software list and install anything that starts with alsa--- Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ATI 8500DV AIW video drivers
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 7:47 pm, Kelly McCormick wrote: > > Sorry, can't help you myself - I use Matrox. However, the bits > > about the ATi 8500 were written [EMAIL PROTECTED](nospam).ca and > > [EMAIL PROTECTED](nospam).com You may wish to contact them > > personally and ask your question. If you do, please let us know > > what happens. The more info we can collect the more it helps > > someone else. > > > > Anne > > My mistake, saw your name at the bottom of the twiki page and > assumed you had written it. > > Dax Unfortunately the old system meant that sometimes names got separated from original items. I wrote the first entry, and perhaps the name never got erased, but it didn't stay with the entry. That's why now we are recommending people to simply put their WikiName beside the entry, rather than at the foot of the page, which was the original recommendation. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Exploits (Was: keep password broken?)
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 6:53 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: > On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 6:20 am, Lance Cummings wrote: > SNIP > > > > 6/ Do your Mandrake Security updates regularly, either by the > > > GUI, or from an automated cron job > > > The command > > > urpmi.update updates && urpmi --update --auto-select > > > will do the updates for you. > > > (That assumes you have defined a urpmi update source called > > > updates) > > > > Oh-oh. Unknown thing. Danger, Will Robinson! (I have defined > > no such thing, and would be unlikely to do so until I figure out > > how to do it.) > > At the end of the install process you were asked if you want to > install updates. If you said Yes an update source will have been > picked. If 'No' then you need to define a source. > Best way to do that is go here and follow the instructions > http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php > > You can then use the Menu>Configuration>Packaging>Mandrake Update > GUI to do your updates for youi. The GUI allows you to browse the > available updates, read why they were issued, and to refuse them if > you wish. There are a *lot* of updates for 9.1 There are already a > few updates for 9.2 (The online tool does not yet allow you to > select a 9.2 update source, but if you select a 9.1 source and then > edit the line to say 9.2, then it will work) > > > Generally as soon as a security flaw is found in a package in the > main distro, there will be an update out for it within 24 hours. > If you are a MandrakeClub member you get emailed to remind you to > upgrade. > No - you have to sign up for the alerts. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Radio Control Sims
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 12:34, Noah A Hicks wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Aron Smith wrote: > > > On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 03:13, Richard Urwin wrote: > > > On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 2:13 pm, Aron Smith wrote: > > > > Anybody know of a linux port of a R/C trainer system ? There are several > > > > on the market but they all use Win$ux %-0 > > > > Crashing this Helicopter is getting expensive. > > > > > > There's a Playstation game called R/C Copter, or something similar. I found it > > > too hard, so it might be a good sim :-) It seemed realistic, but then I've > > > never flown a real one. > > Most of the games are too easy Choppers are nasty mean twitchy b***hes . > > I am looking for one where I can use the Transmitter in Buddy Box mode > > plugged into the game port. > > > > > > > I've never heard of one but I would sure like to. FMS under windows is > my favorite (price-$0.00!). Perhaps it can be run under wine. > -Noah "Cockpit Master is a cheap one AreoFly pro and RealFlight Gen 2 prices range from 39.00 to 199.00 ...fine so far but. They are ALL windoze based. > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] When will 9.1 dry up?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 28, 2003 01:12 pm, rikona wrote: > Hello newbie, > > I got 9.0 in a box when 9.1 was just coming out. After a period of > learning, I tried to get some additional programs for 9.0, but found > almost all were for 9.1, and some did NOT work with 9.0. It was as > though the 9.0 code had dried up and blown away. What code? What programs? > I'm running 9.1 now. How long will it be before the same thing happens > and 9.1 code becomes hard to find? What code? What programs? > I've been getting others interested in Mandrake. Many are fed up with > the Win problems and want a change. They are VERY newbie-ish though - > some even have trouble running Win. Should I give them 9.1 (more > stable?) or 9.2? Hello Rikona; The best way to get new programs for 9.0 would have been through the mirror trees for that release. That would of course depend upon what applications you sought though. Many people aren't even aware that the "contrib" trees exist and that all of those applications are available for install through the MCC or urpmi as soon as the source repository has been added. So saying the code dried up and blew away is slightly misleading. Stuff is still available, you just have to know where to look. I congratulate you on actually getting the "box" for 9.0, and urge you to start those 'others' the same way if possible. Explain to them that there _is_ a free version for download but that there really is added value to box sets and Club membership. Starting anyone off as of now with 9.1 wouldn't be a bad idea, but in my opinion starting them off with 9.2 would be better for them, better for you, and definitely better for MandrakeSoft. My "logic" is based on the fact that the only way to get 9.2 "immediately" would be to join the club or go to the Mandrake Store and buy a copy. Or to install cooker, but that isn't quite 9.2 and may cause a bad first impression. I'm sure that your focus is to present them with a happy experience and not have them snarling at you over a perceived broken operating system, am I correct? The word immediately above is quoted because I don't know for certain whether the mirrors accessible to members have the ISOs yet or not for the simple reason that I can't be bothered to look. I keep this machine mostly (or totally) cooked. Having said all of that; if you install a copy of the Mandrake release that you bought for those others, or help them to do so so that you are starting from something you are at least moderately familiar with, you'll both (and severally) be much happier. I'm sure you've learned from being on the list how to deal with most of the possible "gotchas." A more direct answer to the "How long?" question is simply that official support for releases is 18 months. I think. (-: HTH Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 13:15:54 up 8 days, 2:36, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Pete: Waiter, this meat is bad. Waiter: Who told you? Pete: A little swallow. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/dzj4G11CaRuZZSIRAgeEAJ9u6ploMgkQ3lUf4rGr+GpFCcNQvgCfQdWl AQKcQ32Xj8kFHf/ILZy6ih8= =B4kO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nigerian Scam on newbie
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:45:26 -0500 Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 28 September 2003 02:37 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > On Sunday 28 September 2003 03:40 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > > > Hi all, I just got the Nigerian e-mail scam addressed to the > > > newbie list, so I presume everyone else also recieved it. It > > > filtered to my spam collector but I wonder if there is a way > > > for Mandrake to filter these? Can they use Spamassassin on > > > their mail server? > > > Time to be vewy vewy qwiet and go hunting spammers. > > > > Dennis, I just pressed "bounce" immediately. Sometimes that > > doesn't work and shortly thereafter I'll get a "message > > undeliverable" reply from my smtp server. But this time I > > haven't got it, so I presume the spammer got the message loud > > and clear : "newbie-list is non-existent". > > > > Well, let's see. > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > I didn't think of that, I will do so from now on, Thanks, LOL, Wouldn't that make thier heads spin. 50 bounces from one address. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Radio Control Sims
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Aron Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 03:13, Richard Urwin wrote: > > On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 2:13 pm, Aron Smith wrote: > > > Anybody know of a linux port of a R/C trainer system ? There are several > > > on the market but they all use Win$ux %-0 > > > Crashing this Helicopter is getting expensive. > > > > There's a Playstation game called R/C Copter, or something similar. I found it > > too hard, so it might be a good sim :-) It seemed realistic, but then I've > > never flown a real one. > Most of the games are too easy Choppers are nasty mean twitchy b***hes . > I am looking for one where I can use the Transmitter in Buddy Box mode > plugged into the game port. > > > I've never heard of one but I would sure like to. FMS under windows is my favorite (price-$0.00!). Perhaps it can be run under wine. -Noah Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] T40 powerdown
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Paul Kaplan wrote: > Running Linux Mandrake stock enterprise-kernel. When the machine goes through > power down sequence, the last two messages I see are: > > Halting System... > Power down > > Then the machine hangs. > > When running the standard kernel, the machine then proceeds to shut off. > > Anyone know what's happening and how to fix? > > Thanks, > Paul > > Paul The best I can tell you is that your problem is fairly common. I had it with 9.0 and 9.1 but not with 9.2 beta 2. Have you tried running init 0 as root? This had a better success rate for me. -Noah Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] When will 9.1 dry up?
Hello newbie, I got 9.0 in a box when 9.1 was just coming out. After a period of learning, I tried to get some additional programs for 9.0, but found almost all were for 9.1, and some did NOT work with 9.0. It was as though the 9.0 code had dried up and blown away. I'm running 9.1 now. How long will it be before the same thing happens and 9.1 code becomes hard to find? I've been getting others interested in Mandrake. Many are fed up with the Win problems and want a change. They are VERY newbie-ish though - some even have trouble running Win. Should I give them 9.1 (more stable?) or 9.2? -- Best regards, rikona mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Nigerian Scam on newbie
Hello Kaj, Sunday, September 28, 2003, 12:37:08 PM, you wrote: KH> On Sunday 28 September 2003 03:40 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: >> Hi all, I just got the Nigerian e-mail scam addressed to the >> newbie list, so I presume everyone else also recieved it. It >> filtered to my spam collector but I wonder if there is a way >> for Mandrake to filter these? Can they use Spamassassin on >> their mail server? >> Time to be vewy vewy qwiet and go hunting spammers. KH> Dennis, I just pressed "bounce" immediately. Is that a good idea? It would seem that it just verifies the address as active, assuming this was just a scan for addresses. KH> I presume the spammer got the message loud and clear : KH> "newbie-list is non-existent". My Nigerian e-mail scam was addressed direct to me, not to newbie-list. It would seem that this list has been harvested, and we can look forward to more spam. :-(( >From the email: "I got your contact from the Nigerian Chambers of Commerce." Well, now, it seems we have spam from the Chamber of Commerce. What's next? :-) -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] T40 powerdown
Running Linux Mandrake stock enterprise-kernel. When the machine goes through power down sequence, the last two messages I see are: Halting System... Power down Then the machine hangs. When running the standard kernel, the machine then proceeds to shut off. Anyone know what's happening and how to fix? Thanks, Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nvidia Tweak Utility
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 27, 2003 12:14 pm, Richard Hackwith wrote: > I remember seeing something once about a utility program for adjusting > nvidia cards, but can't remember the name. Can anyone remember, and > know where to find it? nvclock - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 12:55:37 up 8 days, 2:15, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.06, 0.01 Q: What does a WASP Mom make for dinner? A: A crisp salad, a hearty soup, a lovely entree, followed by a delicious dessert. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/dy65G11CaRuZZSIRAhp2AJ0b7SDucRFkb8LxiaRAien0OdQlNgCfQhn3 WectmUptjPR1T4FwyPdzSAk= =eMAF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?
John Richard Smith wrote: Thanks. I had to use Del to access the setup (tried all your options first, then started working my way through the keyboard until something worked!). Have now enabled OnBoard AC97 Audio. Have checked MCC - now showing two soundcards! The original non-existent one, plus VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller using driver snd-via8233. How do I remove the non-existent one from the list and how do I get the CD player etc to recognise the real one? Now we know what chip you have that makes it easier. I have via8233 sound onboard chip and in /etc/modules.conf it installs these lines above snd-via82xx snd-pcm-oss alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx just # out any other references to any other sound chip and try the above. Think you may need to reboot. John Partial success: Have changed the lines you suggested, and rebooted. MCC now still shows two sound cards listed - the VT8233 that I actually have, plus the non-existent SB Live! - but now shows them both using the same driver! Still no sound thoughmaybe having a non-existent SB Live on the list is confusing things somehow. How do I get rid of it? Surely there must be some way to delete it from the list... Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ATI 8500DV AIW video drivers
Sorry, can't help you myself - I use Matrox. However, the bits about the ATi 8500 were written [EMAIL PROTECTED](nospam).ca and [EMAIL PROTECTED](nospam).com You may wish to contact them personally and ask your question. If you do, please let us know what happens. The more info we can collect the more it helps someone else. Anne My mistake, saw your name at the bottom of the twiki page and assumed you had written it. Dax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Repartitioning
Hi is ther ean easy was to repartition your linux hard drive? I used to have a windows partition, which I've now deleted. I'd like to use this free space thogh for my / and /home partitions How would I go about doing this? Thanks Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 11:37 pm, Margot wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Margot is having a problem. If you use AC97 on-board sound, will you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is using? Thanks Anne I have AC97 on-board running and it uses snd-via82xx as the driver Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with grip, not xmms. Sorry not much help. Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at least it recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which is more than I get from xmms. Still no sound though In xmms, on the left-hand, barely visible menu panel, right-click on the + at the top. Select Play Location, and type in /mnt/cdrom or whatever yours is called. Let us know whether that worked. Anne Partial success: it wouldn't take /mnt/cdrom but I had a look at a helpful page the Derek Jennings suggested on another thread which suggested that it might be under /dev. That worked, so now xmms gives me a track listing, and appears to play the CD, but still no sound. Aumix and Kmix are both unmuted, but still no sound - someone suggested I might need to adjust alsamixergui too, but it isn't working - see attached. Margot <>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 6:25 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: The printoff was fair quality,not best, even though I chose my best driver, still it works. I am guessing that xpdf then is a pdf to postscript conversion programme, as well as a pdf viewer, and that the converted file format is then sent to the printer and ghostscript converts it to PCL3 for my dos printer. Is that correct ? Have you tried pdf2ps ? Anne Well, I've got a /usr/bin/pdf2ps , but it's not a graphical app, least I don't think so, Guess someone will have to coach me on how to use it on the CL ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Nvidia Tweak Utility
I remember seeing something once about a utility program for adjusting nvidia cards, but can't remember the name. Can anyone remember, and know where to find it? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nigerian Scam on newbie
On Sunday 28 September 2003 02:37 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Sunday 28 September 2003 03:40 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > > Hi all, I just got the Nigerian e-mail scam addressed to the > > newbie list, so I presume everyone else also recieved it. It > > filtered to my spam collector but I wonder if there is a way > > for Mandrake to filter these? Can they use Spamassassin on > > their mail server? > > Time to be vewy vewy qwiet and go hunting spammers. > > Dennis, I just pressed "bounce" immediately. Sometimes that > doesn't work and shortly thereafter I'll get a "message > undeliverable" reply from my smtp server. But this time I > haven't got it, so I presume the spammer got the message loud > and clear : "newbie-list is non-existent". > > Well, let's see. > > Kaj Haulrich. I didn't think of that, I will do so from now on, Thanks, -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Exploits (Was: keep password broken?)
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 6:20 am, Lance Cummings wrote: SNIP > > > 6/ Do your Mandrake Security updates regularly, either by the GUI, > > or from an automated cron job > > The command > > urpmi.update updates && urpmi --update --auto-select > > will do the updates for you. > > (That assumes you have defined a urpmi update source called > > updates) > > Oh-oh. Unknown thing. Danger, Will Robinson! (I have defined no > such thing, and would be unlikely to do so until I figure out how to > do it.) > At the end of the install process you were asked if you want to install updates. If you said Yes an update source will have been picked. If 'No' then you need to define a source. Best way to do that is go here and follow the instructions http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php You can then use the Menu>Configuration>Packaging>Mandrake Update GUI to do your updates for youi. The GUI allows you to browse the available updates, read why they were issued, and to refuse them if you wish. There are a *lot* of updates for 9.1 There are already a few updates for 9.2 (The online tool does not yet allow you to select a 9.2 update source, but if you select a 9.1 source and then edit the line to say 9.2, then it will work) Generally as soon as a security flaw is found in a package in the main distro, there will be an update out for it within 24 hours. If you are a MandrakeClub member you get emailed to remind you to upgrade. > > Note:Now you are running Mdk 9.2RC2 you **must** delete your > > current 9.1 urpmi sources and add 9.2 sources. > > Oh-oh, oh-oh, oh-oh. A **must** that I have no idea how to > accomplish. I am in deep kimchi now, I suspect. The reason for the **must** is that different Linux releases are built using different versions of the core libraries. If you mix software sources from different releases you will confuse the system as to what libraries to install. You will either end up installing 100's of MB of software, or else totally fsck up your system. We get newbies all the time who install Cooker apps in 9.1 systems and then run into problems. So the bottom line is. If you run 9.1 only have software sources defined for 9.1. If you run 9.2, then only have sources defined for 9.2 The link above tells you how to add sources. To delete a source use the software source GUI in Mandrake Control Centre. > > Thanks Derek, > > Lance -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nigerian Scam on newbie
On Sunday 28 September 2003 03:40 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > Hi all, I just got the Nigerian e-mail scam addressed to the > newbie list, so I presume everyone else also recieved it. It > filtered to my spam collector but I wonder if there is a way > for Mandrake to filter these? Can they use Spamassassin on > their mail server? > Time to be vewy vewy qwiet and go hunting spammers. Dennis, I just pressed "bounce" immediately. Sometimes that doesn't work and shortly thereafter I'll get a "message undeliverable" reply from my smtp server. But this time I haven't got it, so I presume the spammer got the message loud and clear : "newbie-list is non-existent". Well, let's see. Kaj Haulrich. -- *This mail was sent from a 100 % Microsoft free computer* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remember the GPL?
dlwiggers wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:25:08 + Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 6:25 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What does the GPL say about the following? "Next ISOs of Mandrake 9.2 Download Edition will be available for Club Members and all people who have contributed to the new version(including developers and translators), prior to retail packs and public download release." Is this in conformance with the GPL? Does the GPL favor any select group or does it prohibit discrimination and restrictions? The GPL does not force anyone to distribute anything. I can write a GPL program today and leave it on a floppy disk, undistributed, or give it only to my grandma. Your next door neighbour cannot come round and demand that you give him a copy of a GPL program that you happen to have. The GPL only specifies what must happen if and when you distribute. So my grandma could demand the source code, and could post it on her website for the world to download. If you know someone in the Mandrake Club who has downloaded 9.2, then you can ask them for a copy, and if they're nice they can burn you one. Mandrake can't stop them doing that. I hope your friend suggests that you join the club instead, though. -- Richard Urwin I'm assuming the original question was rhetorical? If not, I'm impressed. Lee My question was not rhetorical at all. Although wrongdoing was improbable I found it necessary to ask the question. From the answers that followed I found that my understanding of the issues was not complete. Thanx, Ayoub890 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Looking for a walpaper called night
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 28, 2003 09:19 am, Dan Gordon wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:54:36 -0600 > > "Charlie M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Copy'n'paste sucks sometimes. That last reply was worthless, I hope > > this one's better. :-) Sorry for the length. > > > > http://www.kde-look.org/content/search.php?page=1&search=1&type=0&name=ni > >ght&user=&text=&sort=0&perpage=15&scorefilter=0 > > A link form this one I was able to find it, thanks Charlie. > > Regards, > Dan Gordon You're welcome Dan. Sorry I had to have two cracks at it to get you the help you were after. (-: Later; C. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 11:05:52 up 8 days, 26 min, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.07, 0.17 I'm shaving!! I'M SHAVING!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/dxU8G11CaRuZZSIRAqubAJ0WCxkmF3FESu3bACK/k4lY54T3ugCeJP3R 9AIzjvvDlPaxgioBORCEOeM= =mLmA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Exploits (Was: keep password broken?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 28, 2003 06:48 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 22:37, robin wrote: > > Indeedy-doody. Just about anything you can do by logging in as root, > > you can do by typing "su" in a terminal. It doesn't limit you to > > command-line stuff; for example, once you've become root via "su", you > > can type, say, "konqueror" and get konqueror as though you were runing > > it as root. > > > > Sir Robin > > Ahem - are we forgetting "sudo" ?? > > stephen kuhn - owner Not usually but explaining it would probably have defeated the "strong warning" tone of the original post. I should have stayed out of this thread; there are "gurus" here that can explain any of these things better than I. With attendant credibility. Like you. ^_^ I'm just a noob. :-) CU; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 10:55:27 up 8 days, 15 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.30 Win NT error 001: Error recording error codes. All further errors not displayed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/dxNkG11CaRuZZSIRAoX8AJ4kbCdpaZZ8KfpcJc/xdUV/+BzIvgCfU+JV LzbT5+/thanenkfrV5sudWA= =h2kL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] nasty upgrade surprise
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 22:33, Lance Cummings wrote: > On Sunday 28 September 2003 01:17, Derek wrote: > > On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 6:42 am, Lance Cummings wrote: > > > On Saturday 27 September 2003 14:02, yankl wrote: > > > > On Saturday 27 September 2003 12:27 am, Lance Cummings wrote: > Things seem not muted according to the mixer, but still no sound. > Jean-Luc Ponty and Stephane Grappelli refuse to perform. ^_^ This > is a letdown of major proportion. I am opening a bottle of Chablis > to properly mourn. > > Lance Possibly cause Mark O'conner didn't how up ;-( > > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 4:07 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > >On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 3:11 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > >>How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files > >> > >> > >>I click in the file Icon, and , > >>KGhostView displays the file just fine to read, but when I come > >> to print it off, > >> > >>Printing document , > >>filtering print data, > >> > >>Warning: file format is not directly supported. > >>Do you want KDE to covert this file > >> > >>then, > >> > >>No appropriate filter found for this file format. > >> > >>then, > >>Do you want to print the file using original format ? > >> > >>I tell it to Print, > >> > >>then, > >>error, no valid file was found for printing. > >> > >> > >>So how do I print .pdf files in Mandrake 9.1 > >> > >>John > > > >Install Acrobat. It's on the disks, and it gives you very good > >control of printing, including scaled printing. > > > >Anne > > Nothing by the name *acrobat* or *Acrobat* on any of the M9.1, 3 > download CD's > > Suppose I will have to go out on the net, anyone know where I can > download a straight rpm for mandrake ? > > John I have the PowerPack, so it might be on ConTrib or Commercial. I'll bet you can get it from Adobe's Acrobat site, though. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files
Michael Scottaline wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:11:53 + John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files So how do I print .pdf files in Mandrake 9.1 Try using xpdf. It will convert the .pdf to a.ps file and then print from gs. I'm sure there are many other ways that might work with even fewer steps, but I like my results with this method. Mike http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=xpdf&submit=Search+... has two types of xpdf, xpdf from RawHide sources xpdf from PLD Linux Distribution Mandrake is quite far down the list , suggesting not very current, but does that matter. Also out of interest what are RawHide and PLD Linux ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] sound problems after upgrade
Sound working in 9.1, installed 9.2 but no sound, I am informed it is being used by another app. ps -A appears to show no other application using the card. On-board card SiS7012 (not the greatest, I know) using snd-intel8x0 - this is installed and running. Any suggestions, please? Paul M Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 3:11 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files I click in the file Icon, and , KGhostView displays the file just fine to read, but when I come to print it off, Printing document , filtering print data, Warning: file format is not directly supported. Do you want KDE to covert this file then, No appropriate filter found for this file format. then, Do you want to print the file using original format ? I tell it to Print, then, error, no valid file was found for printing. So how do I print .pdf files in Mandrake 9.1 John Install Acrobat. It's on the disks, and it gives you very good control of printing, including scaled printing. Anne Nothing by the name *acrobat* or *Acrobat* on any of the M9.1, 3 download CD's Suppose I will have to go out on the net, anyone know where I can download a straight rpm for mandrake ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ATA drives in A7N8X deluxe with mdk 9.1
L.V.Gandhi wrote: I have provisions for 2 SATA drives. Even BIOS checks for that while POST. But mdk 9.1 while booting checks for hde and hdf for quit considerable time. with fb mode it looks as if it hangs. This happens now after reinstallation of mdk9.1 yesterday. Before that it didn't happen like that. I would like to avoid that. Any solution is appreciated. I have the same motherboard and as I don't have any SATA drrives I was able to get around the consderable boot time by changing the jumper pin on the motherboard to disable the SATA controller. Boot up time has been reduced significantly. HTH Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.22-10 KDE 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?
Margot wrote: yankl wrote: On Saturday 27 September 2003 08:15 pm, Margot wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 27 September 2003 05:37 pm, Margot wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Margot is having a problem. If you use AC97 on-board sound, will you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is using? Thanks Anne I have AC97 on-board running and it uses snd-via82xx as the driver Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with grip, not xmms. Sorry not much help. Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at least it recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which is more than I get from xmms. Still no sound though You've told us your driver. What sound card does MCC say you have, and how did you get it there? It says my sound card is VIA Technologies VT8233. I did not have to do anything, it was autodetected on install. Have you perchance checked the bios to see if the onboard sound is set to auto and not disabled? Just fumbling in the dark with that, cause I do not recall if you said you had made sure it was turned on. HTH Nobody has mentioned bios yet...how do I check it, and how do I change it if wrong? It all depends on the computer you have. Warning, it could be dangerous to play with your BIOS, if you do not know what specific parameter does do not change it. All following is for DESKTOP ONLY, laptop is an other story. Right after rebooting your PC press on of the following buttons. Not always true. F1- IBM; HP F10 - DELL ESC - Old Gateway F2 - PakardBell Look for a message that say Press to access setup You will get insight BIOS settings. BIOS stands for - basic input output system. It's looks like nc or mc. Usually, but not all ways, arrows will move you through the system. Usually, but not always, on board sound is turned off/on in advance menu under pci devices. It is a good idea to reference documentation of your motherboard. Thanks. I had to use Del to access the setup (tried all your options first, then started working my way through the keyboard until something worked!). Have now enabled OnBoard AC97 Audio. Have checked MCC - now showing two soundcards! The original non-existent one, plus VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller using driver snd-via8233. How do I remove the non-existent one from the list and how do I get the CD player etc to recognise the real one? Now we know what chip you have that makes it easier. I have via8233 sound onboard chip and in /etc/modules.conf it installs these lines above snd-via82xx snd-pcm-oss alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx just # out any other references to any other sound chip and try the above. Think you may need to reboot. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] browsing, browsing, over the bounding main
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 11:02 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 10:12 am, Lance Cummings wrote: > > SK> After viewing the page source, I am of the opinion that the > > page was SK> done in FP2000 or XP...but I could be wrong... > > > > Okay, I well understand I think, but right or wrong is not the > > question. I have to do business with these people Monday through > > Friday, every day of the year except national holidays. So, I need > > a comfortable view of what they are providing, regardless of their > > adherence to STANDARDS.My question at this point is how do I > > comfortably view their output, regardless of how oblivious to or > > complicitous with the Redmond monopoly they might be? Redmond be > > damned, I have to look at that site, every day, so I need a way to > > see that site completely and correctly, regardless of the > > shortsightedness of the webmaster. > > I was very surprised at what I saw there, as I usually find that > Konqueror copes with pages that do not display correctly in Mozilla, > not the other way round. > > The situation is , however, that if pages are not constructed to look > well in both IE and non-M$ bowsers the only thing you can do is have > a number of browsers available and try until you find one that works. > Undesirable, but that is reality. Pages will not display identically > in different browsers, but should be reasonable in all. If they are > not they are badly written, and there is no answer to that. > > Anne You will find many sites that do not look the same in a standards compliant browser as they do in Internet Explorer. You will also come across many sites who test what browser you are using and then present you with a page suggesting you "upgrade" to Internet Explorer. We get these issues because Microsoft design the tools to build these pages and deliberately make them non IE hostile. It is a legacy of the "browser wars". To get around the problem you can either :- Educate the webmasters - A slow and generally unsuccessful task. But with MicroSoft losing the battle for market share in the PDA and mobile telephone market it is something webmasters will have to face eventually. Use a browser who tries to copy IE (and so be non compliant with standards) - Most free browsers support some of the proprietary aspects of IE, but none support them all. Or - Run IE Yes you can run IE under Linux. I keep it as my browser of last resort. IE can run under Wine. Wine is a reverse engineering of the API layer of Windows so Windows apps can run natively under Linux (Wine Is Not an Emulator == WINE, gettit?) Wine is hard to set up for a newbie and not all Windows apps run correctly under it yet. To make life easier you can buy a commerial version of Wine called Crossover Office from www.codeweavers.com It will run IE, MicroSoft Office, and a number of other apps under Linux. It is easy to install, and the supported apps run well, but do not have high hopes for any non-supported app. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:11:53 + John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: >How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files > >So how do I print .pdf files in Mandrake 9.1 Try using xpdf. It will convert the .pdf to a.ps file and then print from gs. I'm sure there are many other ways that might work with even fewer steps, but I like my results with this method. Mike -- "The man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life" --Muhammad Ali Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 3:11 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files > > > I click in the file Icon, and , > KGhostView displays the file just fine to read, but when I come to > print it off, > > Printing document , > filtering print data, > > Warning: file format is not directly supported. > Do you want KDE to covert this file > > then, > > No appropriate filter found for this file format. > > then, > Do you want to print the file using original format ? > > I tell it to Print, > > then, > error, no valid file was found for printing. > > > So how do I print .pdf files in Mandrake 9.1 > > John Install Acrobat. It's on the disks, and it gives you very good control of printing, including scaled printing. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files
How do I get M9.1 to print .PDF files I click in the file Icon, and , KGhostView displays the file just fine to read, but when I come to print it off, Printing document , filtering print data, Warning: file format is not directly supported. Do you want KDE to covert this file then, No appropriate filter found for this file format. then, Do you want to print the file using original format ? I tell it to Print, then, error, no valid file was found for printing. So how do I print .pdf files in Mandrake 9.1 John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] browsing, browsing, over the bounding main
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:12:32 +0900 Lance Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > regardless of their adherence to STANDARDS. ROTFLMAO! sorry, that is just too funny. This is an ancient and ongoing debate on may Open Source software projects, ie. the users want the developers to "fix" their software to work with broken hosts, like ISP mail servers, websites, and the like. So we should *encourage* people to use broken software by incorporating extra code to allow for said broken software? Not bloody likely. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Perhaps the biggest disappointments were the ones you expected anyway. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remember the GPL?
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 06:48, dlwiggers wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:25:08 + > Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 6:25 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > What does the GPL say about the following? > > > > > > "Next ISOs of Mandrake 9.2 Download Edition will be available > > > for Club Members and all people who have contributed to the new > > > version(including developers and translators), prior to retail > > > packs and public download release." > > > > > > Is this in conformance with the GPL? Yes, without a doubt. > Does the GPL favor any > > > select group or does it prohibit discrimination and > > > restrictions? IANL the GPL neither favors, nor discriminates against any group, other than the author and users. As I understand the GPL, it does not ever make the requirement to provide the finished product, just the source code. and even then, not to the world at large for $free$ (as in free beer). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Exploits (Was: keep password broken?)
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 22:37, robin wrote: > Indeedy-doody. Just about anything you can do by logging in as root, > you can do by typing "su" in a terminal. It doesn't limit you to > command-line stuff; for example, once you've become root via "su", you > can type, say, "konqueror" and get konqueror as though you were runing > it as root. > > Sir Robin Ahem - are we forgetting "sudo" ?? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- "The C Programming Language -- A language which combines the flexibility of assembly language with the power of assembly language." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Exploits (Was: keep password broken?)
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 1:37 pm, robin wrote: > Charlie M. wrote: > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >September 27, 2003 11:20 pm, Lance Cummings wrote: > > > > > >>Good to know, thanks. I will be tempted to run as root someday > >> I'm sure, as I run as "administrator" (but renamed for security) > >> in WIndows. But that would be quite some time from now, and > >> maybe I will forgo the idea entirely if it's not too big a pain > >> not to be root. ^^_^^ > > > >For your personal security resist that temptation. _Please!_ If a > > "gremlin" manages to crawl in through a malicious script or other > > methods the worst that might happen is a loss of anything not > > backed up. Yeah, I read your other post. Sounds as though you > > back up almost as much as I do. Suspenders and belt. Or as Anne > > would say; "Belt'n'braces." If you cruise to a den of iniquity > > containing a nest of "viper scripts" as root you won't like the > > world. > > > >At all. > > Indeedy-doody. Just about anything you can do by logging in as > root, you can do by typing "su" in a terminal. It doesn't limit > you to command-line stuff; for example, once you've become root via > "su", you can type, say, "konqueror" and get konqueror as though > you were runing it as root. > > Sir Robin But don't forget to exit root mode as soon as you can. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] nasty upgrade surprise
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 1:00 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: > Historically fonts have always been an issue for Linux. > Almost all fonts are copyrighted, and so cannot be distributed > without a license, and Mandrake *will not* put anything in the > download edition which is not available under a GPL or similar > license. > Recently however the 'Vera' fonts have been released under a free > license, and are quite acceptable. 9.1 was thefirst release to > include the vera fonts. > One thing I do miss, in the fonts line, is a decent informal script font, similar to Gaze or Cataneo, if you know them. There is one script font in the set with 9.1, but it's not what I really want. Does anyone know of one I could use? I don't want to use M$ imported fonts if I can help it. Under 9.0 I had some big problems with them, displaying fine, but not printing. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Exploits (Was: keep password broken?)
Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 27, 2003 11:20 pm, Lance Cummings wrote: Good to know, thanks. I will be tempted to run as root someday I'm sure, as I run as "administrator" (but renamed for security) in WIndows. But that would be quite some time from now, and maybe I will forgo the idea entirely if it's not too big a pain not to be root. ^^_^^ For your personal security resist that temptation. _Please!_ If a "gremlin" manages to crawl in through a malicious script or other methods the worst that might happen is a loss of anything not backed up. Yeah, I read your other post. Sounds as though you back up almost as much as I do. Suspenders and belt. Or as Anne would say; "Belt'n'braces." If you cruise to a den of iniquity containing a nest of "viper scripts" as root you won't like the world. At all. Indeedy-doody. Just about anything you can do by logging in as root, you can do by typing "su" in a terminal. It doesn't limit you to command-line stuff; for example, once you've become root via "su", you can type, say, "konqueror" and get konqueror as though you were runing it as root. Sir Robin -- "I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next moment they may sting you. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] nasty upgrade surprise
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 6:33 am, Lance Cummings wrote: > > Looking forward to doing that and reporting. Say what one will about > MS (and oh yes, a lot can be said), the fonts are not an issue. > Stuff is very readable and clean right out of the box. > Historically fonts have always been an issue for Linux. Almost all fonts are copyrighted, and so cannot be distributed without a license, and Mandrake *will not* put anything in the download edition which is not available under a GPL or similar license. Recently however the 'Vera' fonts have been released under a free license, and are quite acceptable. 9.1 was thefirst release to include the vera fonts. The second issue is that until recently X was very bad at displaying anti aliased fonts. They would appear very jagged. Recently X has improved considerably and font display is now good. However due to Apple's patent on 'bytecode interpreting' it is not legal to distribute X in the USA with it enabled. So to improve your fonts, then install the freetype2 RPM from Texstars download area, and your fonts will look a little better. (If Texstar has been added as a urpmi source, then just use Mandrake Sofware Manager to install the RPM.) > > Okay . . . I fired up kmix immediately from an xterm: > > ERROR: kmix: Mixer cannot be found. > Please check that the soundcard is installed and that the soundcard > driver is loaded. > > Four times it said that, faster than you can bat an eye. ^_^ > > Then it produced the mixer, so it must have finally found it, or it > was just pulling my leg to see how I'd react. ^_^ > > Things seem not muted according to the mixer, but still no sound. And aumix and alsamixer did what? > Jean-Luc Ponty and Stephane Grappelli refuse to perform. ^_^ This > is a letdown of major proportion. I am opening a bottle of Chablis > to properly mourn. Are these MP3's or audio CDs? Playing audio CDs is not the same as getting system sound. There are different issues affecting audio CDs. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] keep password broken?
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:41:32 +, Dick Gevers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pardon me for saying so but a/ there is no man sudoers, at least not > on my MD 9.1; b/man sudo can be read for sure. If it looks too hard to > comprehend remember to visit it at a later stage. I have a man page for sudoers, on 9.0, I don't know where yours has gone. > IMNSHO I do believe an advice of `Don`t read man...` is not a good > advice. I'm sure you know that I was joking. Having said that, when I read: --- The grammar of sudoers will be described below in Extended Backus-Naur Form (EBNF). Don't despair if you don't know what EBNF is; it is fairly simple, and the definitions below are annotated. Quick guide to EBNF EBNF is a concise and exact way of describing the grammar of a language. Each EBNF definition is made up of production rules. E.g., symbol ::= definition | alternate1 | alternate2 ... --- I get a sudden urge to mow the lawn. On the other hand there are useful examples further down the page. Richard -- "Get up and turn I loose" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Best Athlon 64 motherboard
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 20:56, Jure Repinc wrote: > Hi, > > I'm planing on buying AMD Athlon 64 in about a month and I wonder which > motherboard or chipset is the most supported under Linux. > > Thanks in advance for answers. You might want to start digging through all the "Overclocker" sites that have already been doing tests...I hop onto HardOCP and Overclockers Australia every day or so - they've been having some rants...worth a few minutes of time...especially if you're going to be spending money like that... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Never say you know a man until you have divided an inheritance with him. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: Re: Modem help for a M$ refugee
Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Thanks Björn, I didn't know that about winmodems. He has tried > ttyS0 and ttyS1, and ttyS1 at least gives some reaction on the > modem lights, whereas ttyS0 doesn't. That's why I figured it was > occupied by a winmodem. The IRQ's seems to be OK. So does the > BIOS. And the symlink is OK, but doesn't work either. > > Is it futile/doable to physically remove the winmodem ? And will > it help ? Well, in my case, it was just to remove it, since it was a PCI card. But I don't know if there are variants build in to the M/B. If it is PCI, just remove it. > > Or maybe the whole thing is impossible, what with this Rockwell > chipset ? > I'd have a go with minicom, and send some AT commands to it. Or try some AT commands to the device from bash, like echo AT >/dev/modem echo ATDTMy_Owm_Phone_Number >/dev/modem which should make it dial itself (I think), and give a busy tone I don't remember any more AT-commands but there should be plenty via google I remember have to fiddle a bit with the setting 'Wait for dial tone' in kppp. And having a look a kppp now, I see there's a terminal window for trouble shooting it in setup | modem | Terminal > But first : my concern is not to loose a M$ refugee only because > he can't get a modem up ! Good luck, but if it doesn't work out, try another modem, eventhough I've never heard of a external modem that wasn't Haynes compatible /Björn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] browsing, browsing, over the bounding main
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:53:41 +0900 Lance Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, before I go out and smell the dioxins, there is one item of > urgent (for me, anyway) business: > > Please look at the following URL in both Mozilla and Konqueror: > > https://newtrading.etrade.ne.jp/ETGate > > I know you probably can't read Japanese (most of you anyway). > It's okay. > > You will probably notice a difference between Mozilla and > Konqueror right away on this page: The Mozilla implementation > seems complete; some things are clearly missing in Konqueror. > However, the Konqueror page seems much more readable (what there > is of it) -- fonts sharper, whatever (I set my fonts larger in > Konqueror, which helps dramatically, but doesn't seem to help in > Mozilla). > > I hate to say it . . . but using the dreaded "Browser from > Redmond" in the dreaded "OS from Redmond", this page loads > beautifully, perfectly, splendidly. (William is watching over > me?) > > Advice and counsel sought, providing I survive the dioxins, that > is. > > Lance > > > There are some tags that mozilla and opera don't render properly either. I noticed last week when I was working on a table that a friend gave me for inclusion on the webpage that neither of these browsers rendered the column background colors at all. IE and Konq both handle it well. http://americanelevatorinspection.com/InspectorsOnly/FlaCodeTracking1.html There is also a flaw in the code on our homepage with the registration that I can't find. Again Konq and IE see it right, moz and opera don't. I asked an old old webpage guru (now age 19). He said it has always been thus. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Best Athlon 64 motherboard
Hi, I'm planing on buying AMD Athlon 64 in about a month and I wonder which motherboard or chipset is the most supported under Linux. Thanks in advance for answers. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
