Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Inhabitant of Zion
> 
> After ca. 6 hrs, I've still only got about 10% downloaded (with DSL).  Only 
> got about 43 hours to go.  Wooo h!!  Not too impressed with Bittorent so 
> far .
> 

Yes BT is a bit hit and miss. I got 45kb/s no problem with the test but am now getting 
a paulty 4kb/s with the real thing. No tacker errors as yet.

As long as I get it down before 9.3 comes out... :-)

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Re: [newbie] tax software?

2003-10-14 Thread rikona
Hello Eric,

Tuesday, October 14, 2003, 7:04:08 PM, you wrote:

EH> I'm sure it's too late for this year, but now might be a good time
EH> to flood turbotax and taxcut with requests for a linux version.
EH> They already have mac and windows...

I had several talks with their management last year about the
obnoxious product activation. At that time they said they had NO
interest in a linux version. IF M$ does not buy them out, and pushes a
competing product, the linux version might start to look a lot better
to them.

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Re: [newbie] Wine

2003-10-14 Thread Liechti
hi jamie!
did you copy the config file from the soruces to your $HOMR/.wine/? you can find 
it in the documentation/samples/ folder. create a folder called ".wine"(this is 
a hidden folder) in you home dir and put the config file into it.

you have to edit this things to your mountpoints:
[Drive A]
 "Path" = "/mnt/floppy"
 "Type" = "floppy"
 "Label" = "Floppy"
 "Serial" = "87654321"
 "Device" = "/dev/fd0"

if you've got a windows partition, use it. there are all needed dlls installed 
and so on, most of the programs will work. if you don't have a windows 
partition, you've to create a fake windows ;)

with windows partition:
hust edit the path here to your win partition
[Drive C]
 "Path" = "/mnt/win_c"
 "Type" = "hd"
 "Label" = "MS-DOS"
 "Filesystem" = "win95"

without:
create folder fakewin on the root or somewhere else, you've to edit the path in 
the drive c section.
[Drive C]
 "Path" = "/fakewin/"
 "Type" = "hd"
 "Label" = "MS-DOS"
 "Filesystem" = "win95"

you can copy these to things:
[Drive E]
"Path" = "/tmp"
"Type" = "hd"
"Label" = "Tmp Drive"
"Filesystem" = "win95"


[Drive F]
"Path" = "${HOME}"
"Type" = "network"
"Label" = "Home"
"Filesystem" = "win95"

these things are the most importent!!:
[wine]
 "Windows" = "c:\windows"
 "System" = "c:\windows\system"
 "Temp" = "e:\"
 "Path" = "c:\windows;c:\windows\system;e:\;e:\test;f:\"
 "Profile" = "c:\windows\Profiles\Administrator"

you've to edit the paths corectly!
if you're using wine without a windows partition, you've to create all these 
folders on your own! if you dont, wine wont work!

and thats the way the cookie crumbles ;)
i did these things and wine worked. but my photoshop isnt working. version 6 AND 
7 don't work! i could install them, but cannot start them... :(
if you get it work, please let me know!

hope it helpes

greets from the called sweitzerland ;)

remo

Zitat von Jamie Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Has anyone had any success at getting Wine to work properly.
> I've compiled the source and installed it then ran winesetuptk but I can't 
> seem to get any Windows programs to work.
> I will soon try to migrate all of my PC stuff to Linux based programs as I 
> want to get windows off my pc ASAP.
> I want to use Photoshop and a few other programs like Acid and Sound Forge.
> If I had the cash I would get Crossover Office but I don't so any links or 
> help would be much appreciated.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Jamie Taylor
> 
> P.S. please do not say use The Gimp because I am used to Photoshop and I
> don't 
> like The Gimp's user interface.
> 
> 




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Re: [newbie] Permissions solution

2003-10-14 Thread Sharrea Day
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:14, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 October 2003 00:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Sure thing Eric.. I delete them as soon as they arrive,
> > but this message should bring forth many more.  I'll
> > send one a non-sms one on.
>
> Hey Eric,
> sms messages have dissapeared:)
> Good for you!!!
>
> Good luck,
> HarM

Yep, they've gone!... blasted him into oblivion.  CHEERS Eric!  

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[newbie] Gnumeric where is it? How can i call it?

2003-10-14 Thread emim limam
Hi everyone,
I want to use gnumeric on my old pc. i download it and
rmp it and it told me it is installed. But i am not
able to call the program from shell. And it is not on
my applications list or menu list how could i call
gnumeric to work with it either from run command,
shell or if there is anotherway around.
Thx for help in advance.
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[newbie] Gnumeric where is it?

2003-10-14 Thread emim limam
Hi everyone,
I want to use gnumeric on my old pc. i download it and
rmp it and it told me it is installed. But i am not
able to call the program from shell. And it is not on
my applications list or menu list how could i call
gnumeric to work with it either from run command,
shell or if there is anotherway around.
Thx for help in advance.
emin

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RE: [newbie] Procmail mangling my email headers, rendering Netscape Mail/Kmail useless.

2003-10-14 Thread Kaminsky Moshe


> -Original Message-
> From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Procmail mangling my email headers, 
> rendering Netscape Mail/Kmail useless.
> 
> 
> Kaminsky Moshe wrote:
> 
> >AFAIK, Netscape (and maybe also Kmail) do not work with procmail.
> >Netscape is not, strictly speaking, a MUA, but a whole mail system in
> >one program: It delivers the mail to the local machine, and 
> does all the
> >redistribution and filtering by itself (I think), basically 
> performing
> >the roles of fetchmail, sendmail, procmail and a MUA. If you want to
> >work the traditional unix way (which IMO is better), you 
> need to use a
> >decent MUA, such as mutt. (Then again, maybe I'm wrong, and there is
> >some setting that allows netscape mail to function as a MUA, but you
> >probably have to set this in one of the endless menus)
> >
> >  
> >
> On a typical server setup, procmail kicks in before 
> Netscape/Mozilla/whatever downloads your mail, so you can run 
> both.  I 
> set procmail to send notorious known spam to /dev/null and 
> let Mozilla
> handle the more subtle stuff.  Mozilla's heuristics are pretty good - 
> the disadvantage is that it has to download the mail before it can 
> decide it's spam.

Ok, but if you want to use procmail only for filtering out some
messages, you must put back in the original mailbox all the mail you
want to read with Mozilla. If that's really Mark's intent, the only
thing to do is change the line saying

DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/inbox

to

DEFAULT=$ORGMAIL

(basically reducing procmail's role to nothing, with the attached
.procmailrc). Any mail redistributed to other mailboxes will never be
seen by Mozilla.

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Re: [newbie] Urgent help !!!!Installation of mandrake in compaqserver

2003-10-14 Thread Rohit_Sundriyal
Hi jhon
thanks for the reply here is the detail that you are asking for hope that
gona help

Model - ML370 G2

Processor-Dual 1.6 GHz

Memory-   2GB SDRAM

Drives-  4 * 36.4 GB

Controller- 5300 SMART Array Controller.

Power Supply-   Dual Redundant (1+1)

OS Installed- Red HAT 7.3

please letme know if installing mandrake needs extra drives for this .



Thanks and Regards

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From: "ed tharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Urgent help Installation of mandrake in
compaqserver


> On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 02:01, John Wilson wrote:
> > On October 13, 2003 08:59 pm, Rohit_Sundriyal wrote:
> > > Dear Group
> > >
> > > Is anybudy having experince in installing mandrake on compaq server
.please
> > > provide me setp by setp installation notes if anybudy has done this
befor
> > > on compaq servers.
> >
> >
> > First hint is not to send HTML mail cause a lot of people on the list
filter
> > it out. :-)
> >
> > That said, they'll see you now and someone will answer :-)
> >
> > ttfn
> NEED more info... what model, cpu, mem, drives (raid?) controllers, etc.
> that question was like anyone ever drive a Oldsmobile? how do you do
> that?
>
>
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > __
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Re: [newbie] Wine

2003-10-14 Thread deedee
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:19:07 +0100, Jamie Taylor wrote:
> Has anyone had any success at getting Wine to work properly.
> I've compiled the source and installed it then ran winesetuptk but I
> can't seem to get any Windows programs to work.
> I will soon try to migrate all of my PC stuff to Linux based programs
> as I want to get windows off my pc ASAP.
> I want to use Photoshop and a few other programs like Acid and Sound
> Forge.
> If I had the cash I would get Crossover Office but I don't so any
> links or help would be much appreciated.

You've already received a link for Frank's Corner. Wine developers hang 
out and answer questions on the wine newsgroup at 
comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine. There is a mailing list for wine-users 
which can be subscribed to at 
http://www.winehq.com/mailman/listinfo/wine-users -- wine developers 
also answer questions there.

There are two issues with regard to Wine. Since it's alpha software, one 
issue is to get it properly working. Did you run winecheck after 
compiling and installing source? That will identify possible areas 
where your Wine may be having trouble.

The second issue is getting your applications to work under Wine. Not 
everything does. Not every dll and api for MS-Windows has been created. 
If your software needs something that hasn't yet been done, it probably 
won't work well, assuming that it works at all.

You might inquire on Wine lists if anyone else has gotten your program 
favorites to work.

A major advantage offered by CodeWeavers is the fact that their 
developers are paid to work on those problems. If they take on your 
software, it is guaranteed that it will be able to work (because they 
make certain all the dlls and apis it needs are created).

It is possible to interest developers on the Wine lists in your 
software, but they are doing it as volunteers and they will need a lot 
of input from you in order to succeed.
 
Whether or not you get your programs to work under Wine has a lot to do 
with how much time and effort you're willing to put into it. I've had 
no problem with getting Wine itself to work, however, and to run quite 
a few programs, though not all that I would like it to run. I'm not 
running any of the ones you mention. 

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[newbie] Re: 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Miark
On 14 Oct 2003 21:58:03 -0400, ed tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > So much for that valuable club "membership".
> > 
> > Cynicism will get you nowhere.
> > 
> ...if he wants to just be an unhappy bugger instead of asking 
> for help, then I would not tell him a thing.

Agreed.

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Glenn

After ca. 6 hrs, I've still only got about 10% downloaded (with DSL).  Only 
got about 43 hours to go.  Wooo h!!  Not too impressed with Bittorent so 
far .



On Tue October 14 2003 21:00, Miark wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:44:31 -0500, Avi Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > I am getting Download rate of 165 KB/s and Upload rate of 55 KB/s on my
> > company's T1.
>
> I'm doing well, too. Logged into the Club with no hassle. Clicked on the
> BitTorrent link and it started the download immediately. After five minutes
> of running, I'm getting a download speed of 45KB/second. I'm sure that'll
> go up slowly.
>
> I'm not doing somersaults about BitTorrent because it's kinda clunky and
> I don't know if/how to throttle the upload speed. But it works for me,
> and I understand Mandrake's desire to spare their servers, so I can't
> complain.
>
> Miark

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[newbie] tax software?

2003-10-14 Thread Eric Huff
As far as i can tell, no one support linux (other than web based).

I'm sure it's too late for this year, but now might be a good time
to flood turbotax and taxcut with requests for a linux version. 
They already have mac and windows...

https://orderupdate.intuit.com/corporate.asp  <-- screwed up link
you have to flounder to to get to feedback

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Miark
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:44:31 -0500, Avi Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am getting Download rate of 165 KB/s and Upload rate of 55 KB/s on my 
> company's T1.

I'm doing well, too. Logged into the Club with no hassle. Clicked on the 
BitTorrent link and it started the download immediately. After five minutes
of running, I'm getting a download speed of 45KB/second. I'm sure that'll
go up slowly.

I'm not doing somersaults about BitTorrent because it's kinda clunky and
I don't know if/how to throttle the upload speed. But it works for me,
and I understand Mandrake's desire to spare their servers, so I can't
complain.

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Re: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems

2003-10-14 Thread Eric Huff
> Eric:
> Speaking of growth, the second article in the series has been
> posted:
> http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/10/08/1416248.shtml?tid=23
> It covers file and filesystem recovery.

Second?  it turns out it's the fourth!

Thanks for the heads up.  I added all three.  They do make for good
reads.

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/FileSystems

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Re: [newbie] linux complient notebooks

2003-10-14 Thread L.V.Gandhi
On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 8:48 pm, Franki wrote:
> L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> >I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible
> > notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those
> > possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for
> > wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps
> > and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to
> > internet oriented jobs.
> >
> >
> >I have just just gotten a Dell Inspiron 5150,
>
> 3.06gig  Mobile Pention 4.
> 512MB DDR.
> Geforce FX5200 go.
> 60 gig HDD.
> TM1300 b/g wireless.
>
> I have not loaded linux on it yet, was waiting for Mandrake 9.2
> however I did start the machine with knoppix and it all seemed to work
> fine.
>
> Didn't try the wireless but some searching on the net shows it is
> possible to work, but you have to compile a module to do it. (no biggie).
>
> When mdk9.2 comes out, I will be documenting all the steps I took to get
> it working and link it on the Twiki.
Thanks for the response.
After Asus A7N8X deluxe MB and asus v9180SE video card in my desktop, I am 
wary of video system and MB chipsets. knoppix 3.2 works OK even in my desktop 
with fb without dri. Even closed source binary nvidia driver from their site, 
doesn't provide dri support. Further MB chipset nvidia nforce2 is not 
supported by mdk 9.1 stock kernel. I have to download a new kernel without 
source(I have only dial up connection). Now without source, video driver wont 
compile. I will wait for your trial with mdk9.2.
Any opinion on centrino?

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[newbie] change in /etc/resolv.conf

2003-10-14 Thread L.V.Gandhi
I have worked in the morning and browsed the net/d/l mail etc. in the evening 
/etc/resolv.conf is mangled like this
[EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# cat /etc/resolv.conf
closed(6ecefe9b):
opened(6ecefe9b):file:/home/lvgandhi
closed(60fcf3b3):
opened(60fcf3b3):file:/home/lvgandhi/www.thehindubusinessline.com
closed(6ecefe9b):file:/home/lvgandhi
opened(6ecefe9b):file:/home/lvgandhi/www.thehindubusinessline.com
closed(60fcf3b3):
opened(60fcf3b3):file:/home/lvgandhi/www.thehindubusinessline.com/businessline
what can be the reason?
I was using wget some pages from www.thehindubusinessline.com/businessline/
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 21:47, Miark wrote:
> > When I click on "mytorrent-ai9nl.torrent", (from mozilla, per 
> > instructions) it doesn't even load the gui ... 
> 
> Perhaps you can try Konq instead of Moz.
> 
> > So much for that valuable club "membership".
> 
> Cynicism will get you nowhere.
> 
> Miark
> 
he needs to have bit torrent and the bittorrent gui rpms installed, then
click on mytorrent in what ever folder he saved it in. but if he wants
to just be an unhappy bugger instead of asking for help, then I would
not tell him a thing.
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Miark
> When I click on "mytorrent-ai9nl.torrent", (from mozilla, per 
> instructions) it doesn't even load the gui ... 

Perhaps you can try Konq instead of Moz.

> So much for that valuable club "membership".

Cynicism will get you nowhere.

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Re: [newbie] Permissions solution

2003-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Carroll,

The problem is solved.  As far as the reply setting goes, it is blank.

-A

On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 20:07, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 October 2003 05:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Anyone having any ideas as to how I can get my user account
> > to the point of being able to read and write the /mp3s
> > partition?  Surely there's a solution.
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > -A
> 
> A:
> Give us a hint. Other than that you're using MS Outlook, you haven't given us 
> a clue about (1) what version of Windows are you using, (2) what version of 
> Mandrake that you have, (3) where this /mps3 is partition located (my guess 
> would be it's somewhere on the Windows side -- but I could be wrong), and (4) 
> if /mp3s is in Windows, how is it formatted?
> 
> And please delete your "Reply to" setting -- it should be blank.
> 
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Re: [newbie] aiuto compilazione del kernel / periferiche

2003-10-14 Thread Anton
Cabron!
Non credo che molta gente capisca Italiano qui... meglio faccia i tui 
posti nel "maldetto" Inglese, o trovi un listo dei Italiani... Sono 
anche newbie, e non so consigliarti (in piu di parlare l'Italiano molto 
male!) molto.
Cheers
Anton

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Sono un nuovo utente linux, ma sono alle prime armi ed ho bisogno di qualcuno
che mi insegni a sfruttare il sistema al meglio per poter recidere il cordone
ombelicale che ancora mi lega alla microsoft e i suoi sistemi 
operativi.
COMINCIAMO CON LE DOMANDE:

PREMETTO CHE POSSIEDO LA VERSIONE 9.1 DI MANDRAKE

1)Quali sono gli scopi di questa fatidica compilazione del kernel, e come
si effettua?
2)Il sistema al momento dell'installazione non mi ha riconosciuto la scheda
audio, problema che con la vecchia versione 8.2 non si era verificato. Naturalmente
questa periferica non figura neanche nella lista hardwere di hardrake, come
posso fare a fargliela riconoscere???
e se dovessi installare un'altra qualsiasi periferica???."sapete
io sto ancora con la vecchia tiriterastart...impostazionipannello
di controllo...nuovo hardware...etc.etc"
3)Qualche chiarimento sulla chiacchieratissima incompatibilita tra i softmodem
e il pinguino?? Esiste un modo per far funzionare tali modem sotto linux??
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Re: [newbie] Wine

2003-10-14 Thread mike
Jamie Taylor wrote:
Has anyone had any success at getting Wine to work properly.
I've compiled the source and installed it then ran winesetuptk but I can't 
seem to get any Windows programs to work.
I will soon try to migrate all of my PC stuff to Linux based programs as I 
want to get windows off my pc ASAP.
I want to use Photoshop and a few other programs like Acid and Sound Forge.
If I had the cash I would get Crossover Office but I don't so any links or 
help would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Jamie Taylor

P.S. please do not say use The Gimp because I am used to Photoshop and I don't 
like The Gimp's user interface.
Try this link Jamie,It has some info that helped me before with wine.

http://www.frankscorner.org/

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Harv Nelson


Sharrea Day wrote:

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:49, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
 

Ditto on that Error 404!!!

On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 12:47, Poogle wrote:
   

On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 H:41 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
 

On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:26 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
   

9.2 is out for club members

Good luck,
HarM
 

Saw that, but I am not able to connect to a tracker, how bout anyone
else?
   

Likewise - error 404
 

For me clicking on the torrent in the browser starts btdownloadergui which 
promptly gives me an error message:
"GOT BAD FILE_INFO"
or similar

A clue anyone?

Sharrea
 

H...

When I click on "mytorrent-ai9nl.torrent", (from mozilla, per 
instructions) it doesn't even load the gui ... just wants to download 
another copy of the "mytorrent.torrent" file.  Something is hosed in 
that program.  Guess I'll just wait 'till the ISO's are available on the 
mirror.  So much for that valuable club "membership".

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Re: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems

2003-10-14 Thread Carroll Grigsby

On Tuesday 14 October 2003 02:19 pm, Eric Huff wrote:
> > > > > http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/10/07/196222&mode=thread&tid
> > > > >=23

> Right now it's just the link, but there's has been a lot of file
> system info over the years on this list, (defraggind, fscking, etc)
> that i'm sure the page will grow.
>
> eric


Eric:
Speaking of growth, the second article in the series has been posted:
http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/10/08/1416248.shtml?tid=23
It covers file and filesystem recovery.
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Re: [newbie] Permissions solution

2003-10-14 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 05:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Anyone having any ideas as to how I can get my user account
> to the point of being able to read and write the /mp3s
> partition?  Surely there's a solution.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> -A

A:
Give us a hint. Other than that you're using MS Outlook, you haven't given us 
a clue about (1) what version of Windows are you using, (2) what version of 
Mandrake that you have, (3) where this /mps3 is partition located (my guess 
would be it's somewhere on the Windows side -- but I could be wrong), and (4) 
if /mp3s is in Windows, how is it formatted?

And please delete your "Reply to" setting -- it should be blank.

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Re: [newbie] MP3 Player/Library software

2003-10-14 Thread Heather/Femme
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:22:50 +0100
Jamie Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anybody know of any decent equivalent to Musicmatch for Linux
> that does not involve MySQL and HTML or XML front ends.  
> I never liked Winamp so I don't really get on with XMMS.
> I just want a decent MP3 librarian/player.  Is that too much to ask
> ;-)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Jamie Taylor
> 
> 
I found: (all on your cd's OR Texstars repository)

Name: madman
Version: 0.91.1-2tex
Size: 692 KB

Summary: A music database mananger

Description: Madman makes your digital music experience what it should
have been from the start. Fun, not clumsy. Organized, not a mess.

---
Name: juk
Version: 1.1-2tex
Size: 402 KB

Summary: JuK a jukebox & music manager forKDE

Description: JuK (pronounced jook) is a jukebox and music manager for
the KDE desktop similar to jukebox software on other platforms such as
iTunes ® or RealOne ®.
---
Name: rhythmbox
Version: 0.5.1-2mdk
Size: 1631 KB

Summary: Music Management Application

Description: Music Management application with support for ripping
audio-cd's, playback of Ogg Vorbis and Mp3 and burning of CD-Rs.

 

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Re: [newbie] Easy way to update Gaim to 0.70?

2003-10-14 Thread Heather/Femme
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:31:47 -0400
HaywireMac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:29:47 -0400
> Heather/Femme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> 
> > 
> > ftp://ftp.bahcesehir.edu.tr/pub/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms
> 
> weird, are you sure you did:
> 
> urpmi.update -a?
> 

yes & it *did* update...

I watched it go.

so? 

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 19:02, Aron Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 15:50, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > On Wednesday 15 October 2003 00:34, Aron Smith wrote:
> > > do you have (shudder) Thiz Linux ?
> > 
> > Frankly: never heard of itwhazdat? Drool!!
> > 
> > HarM
> It came with the box im running now It was lousey I can send it to you
> if you send me your snailmail address
> 
> 
> I have a pristine 2 disk set of redhat 5.2.
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Re: [newbie] Permissions solution

2003-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Derek et al,

Thanks for all the suggestions.  I was finally able to get this working
with the help from a good friend who is basically a Linux God.
Incidentally you can check his site our here: linode.com.

Anyhow, I edited the appropriate /etc/fstab line adding my userid for my
user account after the codepage part.  Went something like:

..codepage=850,rw,uid=500 0 0

After un-mounting /mp3s and remounting all, everything works perfectly.
I have booted to windows to test things there but it should be okay.

Thanks all, hopefully one day I can answer someone elses question..
anyone need Web development help? lol

-A


On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 17:02, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 10:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > (Man, half the e-Mails I'm getting today are bounces from
> > the list.  Sheesh.  Some of these people prob. need to be
> > unsub'd)
> >
> > Yea, if you haven't followed the latest banter on the list,
> > I have been trying to get my user account to be able to
> > access (read/write) to a directory /mp3s.  I created
> > a FAT32 partition during 9.1 installation that is called
> > /mp3s which will be used by Linux and Windows. I'm unable
> > to access this directory.
> >
> > -A
> Set the options in the  /etc/fstab entry for the partition to 
> iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,quiet,umask=0
> 
> derek


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Re: [newbie] gaim-0.71

2003-10-14 Thread Heather/Femme
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:36:21 +0200
"H.J.Bathoorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 14 October 2003 10:09, Heather/Femme wrote:
> > 
> > well someone named -> fransje_2
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) was in my irc channel.  did
> > not ID when i asked so i kicked them.
> 
> Attaway.
> Wasn't me! Not my kind of thing, I'm into Linux;)
> I'm on the #mandrake channel at freenode as..HarM.
> 
> Good luck,
> HarM

Heh well it was Frans Keetlar!  Damnit!  You may wish to email him
offlist as he is looking for a more active channel & S/M isn't his
thing! 

LOL I think I almost scared teh poor dear too! *weg*

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[newbie] 9.2 & VMware

2003-10-14 Thread Paul Kaplan
Does anyone use VMware successfully on Mandrake 9.2?  
Paul

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Re: [newbie] sensitive materials

2003-10-14 Thread Eric Huff
How to protect your computer from theft:

Aron Smith wrote:
> 1.Remove case
> 2.Using a sharp object scratch Graffetti in case
> 3. Using ball pien hammer put dents in case
> 4. paint an ugly color (lots of sags and overspray
> 5 Take New modded case put where thief can see it first

That sounds like the Saturday Night Live 'Chameleon XL !

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[newbie] MP3 Player/Library software

2003-10-14 Thread Jamie Taylor
Does anybody know of any decent equivalent to Musicmatch for Linux that does 
not involve MySQL and HTML or XML front ends.  
I never liked Winamp so I don't really get on with XMMS.
I just want a decent MP3 librarian/player.  Is that too much to ask ;-)

Cheers

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[newbie] Wine

2003-10-14 Thread Jamie Taylor
Has anyone had any success at getting Wine to work properly.
I've compiled the source and installed it then ran winesetuptk but I can't 
seem to get any Windows programs to work.
I will soon try to migrate all of my PC stuff to Linux based programs as I 
want to get windows off my pc ASAP.
I want to use Photoshop and a few other programs like Acid and Sound Forge.
If I had the cash I would get Crossover Office but I don't so any links or 
help would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Jamie Taylor

P.S. please do not say use The Gimp because I am used to Photoshop and I don't 
like The Gimp's user interface.

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Aron Smith
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 15:50, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 October 2003 00:34, Aron Smith wrote:
> > do you have (shudder) Thiz Linux ?
> 
> Frankly: never heard of itwhazdat? Drool!!
> 
> HarM
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Re: [newbie] Permissions solution

2003-10-14 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 11:10 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Aight, but what does this do. Specifically the codepage on
> to the end of the line part.
>
> -A
>

Type 'man mount' in a terminal and you will see listings of all the options 
for all file system types.

Quote
---
umask=value
  Set  the  umask  (the  bitmask  of  the permissions that are not
  present). The default is the umask of the current process.   The
  value is given in octal.

codepage=value
  Sets the codepage for converting to shortname characters on  FAT
  and VFAT filesystems. By default, codepage 437 is used.

/quote

To be honest I do not know why codepage is set to 850. It is just what 
Mandrake sets it to by default. The important option from your point of view 
is umask=0  That will allow all users to read/writeto your vfat partition. 
The 'quiet' option stops you getting messages from konqueror complaining that 
vfat does not have any permission bits to set.



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Re: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems

2003-10-14 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 00:46, John Wilson wrote:
> What PDFs are useful for and needed for is the printing of a document in a
> familiar format (book).  It's this they excel in.

Very well formulated commentcouldn't agree more!

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 00:34, Aron Smith wrote:
> do you have (shudder) Thiz Linux ?

Frankly: never heard of itwhazdat? Drool!!

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Re: [newbie] And the beat goes on...

2003-10-14 Thread Avi Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I never believe anything that comes from the register.. but
that's just me.
-A
On October 14, 2003 12:56 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
Poor, poor, Microsloth... ;-)

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-10-14-019-26-NW-MS-PB


We'll have to see exactly what it is that Isreal will do here.  The news is
definitely encouraging.
I will try to help here by translating excerpts from an article that 
currently appears on the online version of an Israeli daily:

"The Finance Ministry announced today that it suspends the agreement 
with the software giant Microsoft for the purchase and upgrade of 
software (mainly for personal computers) for the government ministries. 
 The reason for the decision is mainly monetary, but it also has to do 
with the way Microsoft products are priced and the government's computer 
infrastructure.

At the beginning of 2001, the government signed a 3 year agreement with 
Microsoft which will come to an end at the end of the current year.  The 
agreement allowed the government to use Microsoft software for a yearly fee.

According to the Finance Ministry the agreement may have had a negative 
impact for the selection of certain products due to the fact that the 
agreement requires the purchase of packages of software.  Also, the 
recent cuts in the budget of the government ministries impacts the 
ability to finance the agreement.

Another reason for the suspension of the agreement is the plan the 
government has for a wide use of alternative software, mainly Sun's Open 
Office.

The price of these software products is much lower then Microsoft's 
software.  It should also be noted that lately Sun Israel with the help 
of IBM and others is investing much effort to make Open Office work 
reasonably well in Hebrew, something that will allow the software to 
compete with Microsoft's in the Israeli market.

There is also plan to move the government ministries to use Open Source 
software.  This means the wide use of the Linux OS and software running 
under Linux."

I hope this clarifies the matter somewhat.  Even though no mention is 
made of Antitrust, it is still encouraging to see the government of 
Israel thinking of using Linux to cut cost.  Recently there have been 
huge cuts in the government budget and when there is little money, 
people start looking at Linux.

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Re: [newbie] sensitive materials

2003-10-14 Thread Aron Smith
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 08:25, Eric Huff wrote:
> > > Just because i am paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get
> > > me.
> > >
> > How about spraying the keyboard and mouse with some kind of killer
> > spray you yourself are immune to?
> 
> Hmmm..., that might work...
> 
> 1.Remove case
> 2.Using a sharp object scratch Graffetti in case
  3. Using ball pien hammer put dents in case
  4. paint an ugly color (lots of sags and overspray
  5 Take New modded case put where thief can see it first
 (I had a thief broke into my house once he took a cheap 35mm camera and
left the Hassie setting.)
> 
> __
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Re: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems

2003-10-14 Thread John Wilson
On October 14, 2003 02:24 pm, Eric Huff wrote:

> > Also, PDF is
> > proprietory and I'm not comfortable using a proprietory format on
> > Twiki.
>
> Would that be a problem?  People have pdf's on sites all the time.
> It may be proprietary, but not so much so that it can't be shipped
> with mandrake.
> Just curious.
>
> For now, i just linked to it.
>
> eric


Thanks for the link, Eric.

Actually, though PDF is proprietory and Adobe can change the file internals 
any time it wishes it's also become ubiquitous so I suppose I'll just have to 
live with it. :-)

My concerns with PDFs tend more to their usefulness as opposed to HTML/XML.  
In most cases they are little or no markups in them which means that flipping 
back and forth can often be an exercise in futility.

Well designed and linked HTML, on the other hand, makes it easy to look up 
sidebars and such without the necessity of using the somewhat suspect 
indexing of PDFs.  This is particularly true in tabbed browsers.

What PDFs are useful for and needed for is the printing of a document in a 
familiar format (book).  It's this they excel in.

ttfn

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Re: [newbie] Easy way to update Gaim to 0.70?

2003-10-14 Thread HaywireMac
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:29:47 -0400
Heather/Femme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> 
> ftp://ftp.bahcesehir.edu.tr/pub/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms

weird, are you sure you did:

urpmi.update -a?

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Re: [newbie] Urgent help !!!!Installation of mandrake in compaq server

2003-10-14 Thread HaywireMac
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:29:17 +0530
"Rohit_Sundriyal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> Is anybudy having experince in installing mandrake on compaq server
> .please provide me setp by setp installation notes if anybudy has done
> this befor on compaq servers.

Put the CD in the CDROM drive, reboot, follow the instructions?

Other than that, we'd need way more details on what's happenin' on
your end.

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Re: [newbie] MCC is missing from my Menus

2003-10-14 Thread HaywireMac
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:13:49 -0400
"Yoel P. Krigsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> it says, Command not found..

as root?

Ok, then, as root, urpmi drakconf.

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Aron Smith
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 13:43, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 October 2003 22:32, Charlie M. wrote:
> > I'll still re-up the membership, but it's only a method to support my
> > favourite distribution. I've never logged into the Club site.
> 
> I've still got 700 and so much days to go before my membership expiresI'm 
> not sure 'cause I can't login, club is saturated.
> 
> That's about another 2 years i.e. upto Mdk-11.2 ;)
> I'll just pre-order a boxed set at Mdk store anyway. I'm doing this to support 
> (I run cooker) so who cares if it takes a week or so longer.
> I collect linux distro CD's, the more obscure (or older) the better:)
> 
> Soplease don't feel inhibited (anyone) to offer:D
> 
> Good luck,
> HarM
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Re: [newbie] Permissions solution

2003-10-14 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 00:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Sure thing Eric.. I delete them as soon as they arrive,
> but this message should bring forth many more.  I'll
> send one a non-sms one on.

Hey Eric,
sms messages have dissapeared:)
Good for you!!!

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RE: [newbie] Permissions solution

2003-10-14 Thread linux
Aight, but what does this do. Specifically the codepage on
to the end of the line part.

-A

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Derek Jennings
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 5:02 PM
To: newbie
Subject: Re: [newbie] Permissions solution


On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 10:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> (Man, half the e-Mails I'm getting today are bounces from
> the list.  Sheesh.  Some of these people prob. need to be
> unsub'd)
>
> Yea, if you haven't followed the latest banter on the list,
> I have been trying to get my user account to be able to
> access (read/write) to a directory /mp3s.  I created
> a FAT32 partition during 9.1 installation that is called
> /mp3s which will be used by Linux and Windows. I'm unable
> to access this directory.
>
> -A
Set the options in the  /etc/fstab entry for the partition to 
iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,quiet,umask=0

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RE: [newbie] Permissions solution

2003-10-14 Thread linux
Sure thing Eric.. I delete them as soon as they arrive,
but this message should bring forth many more.  I'll 
send one a non-sms one on.

-A

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Huff
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 5:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Permissions solution


> (Man, half the e-Mails I'm getting today are bounces from
> the list.  Sheesh.  Some of these people prob. need to be
> unsub'd)

The only ones i saw were the sms ones (which should have stopped
now).

Would you mind forwarding a bounce to me (headers and all) ?

thanks,
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Re: [newbie] Permissions solution

2003-10-14 Thread Eric Huff
> (Man, half the e-Mails I'm getting today are bounces from
> the list.  Sheesh.  Some of these people prob. need to be
> unsub'd)

The only ones i saw were the sms ones (which should have stopped
now).

Would you mind forwarding a bounce to me (headers and all) ?

thanks,
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Re: [newbie] Permissions solution

2003-10-14 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 10:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> (Man, half the e-Mails I'm getting today are bounces from
> the list.  Sheesh.  Some of these people prob. need to be
> unsub'd)
>
> Yea, if you haven't followed the latest banter on the list,
> I have been trying to get my user account to be able to
> access (read/write) to a directory /mp3s.  I created
> a FAT32 partition during 9.1 installation that is called
> /mp3s which will be used by Linux and Windows. I'm unable
> to access this directory.
>
> -A
Set the options in the  /etc/fstab entry for the partition to 
iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,quiet,umask=0

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Re: [newbie] Permissions solution

2003-10-14 Thread Jason Greenwood
PLEASE remove your reply to header as well, it screws up the list 
munging. If you choose to join a list, obey the munging rules...it's 
just good netiquette.

Cheers

Jason

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

(Man, half the e-Mails I'm getting today are bounces from
the list.  Sheesh.  Some of these people prob. need to be
unsub'd)
Yea, if you haven't followed the latest banter on the list,
I have been trying to get my user account to be able to 
access (read/write) to a directory /mp3s.  I created
a FAT32 partition during 9.1 installation that is called
/mp3s which will be used by Linux and Windows. I'm unable
to access this directory.

-A

-Original Message-
From: H.J.Bathoorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 4:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Permissions solution
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 23:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Anyone having any ideas as to how I can get my user account
to the point of being able to read and write the /mp3s
partition?  Surely there's a solution.
Thanks!!

-A
   

Huhh? You got a /mp3 partition??

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RE: [newbie] Permissions solution

2003-10-14 Thread linux
(Man, half the e-Mails I'm getting today are bounces from
the list.  Sheesh.  Some of these people prob. need to be
unsub'd)

Yea, if you haven't followed the latest banter on the list,
I have been trying to get my user account to be able to 
access (read/write) to a directory /mp3s.  I created
a FAT32 partition during 9.1 installation that is called
/mp3s which will be used by Linux and Windows. I'm unable
to access this directory.

-A

-Original Message-
From: H.J.Bathoorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 4:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Permissions solution


On Tuesday 14 October 2003 23:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Anyone having any ideas as to how I can get my user account
> to the point of being able to read and write the /mp3s
> partition?  Surely there's a solution.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> -A

Huhh? You got a /mp3 partition??

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 23:22, Dennis Myers wrote:
> I will second the bittorrent sux, I have had it running most of the day and
> still can not get a d/l started.  Not connecting with a tracker. : (
> Dennis M. linux user #180842

At the moment: Can't even login at club.
I'd like to see if I can get a price cut on pre-orders as a (life) member.
Oh well, plenty of days to comeya should see the traffic on #mandrake on 
this issue:) Why do free-loaders always want to jump the queue too?
Won't change much for me anyway, as I've been keeping cooker up to date:)

Good luck,
HarM

P/S, I'm a happy man...I just (re)found all my Stanley Clark LP's in the 
attic.and playing 'em all day.
Man! Was/is he god:)
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Re: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems

2003-10-14 Thread Eric Huff
> > I think that article would serve well to be in Twiki. Just
> > be sure to get the author's permission before pushing it
> > to a PDF.

Here was the response from NewsForge.com:

"I'm afraid I can't give you permission to copy it because we don't 
own the copyright. It's a book extract. You might be able to get
permission from 
the publisher, as we did. You should be safe linking to it, however,
since our 
URLs don't really change, even after a redesign, one of which is
coming up this 
week."

> Nor was it ever my intent to republish the article on a PDF. 
> Personally I find PDF files to be an enormous pain in the butt and
> really have never seen the point in them.

I actually do use them here a lot for the reason mentioned: links
break.  I also dislike saving html files in a format such that they
are a directory with multiple files.  It's just too messy...

> Also, PDF is
> proprietory and I'm not comfortable using a proprietory format on
> Twiki.

Would that be a problem?  People have pdf's on sites all the time. 
It may be proprietary, but not so much so that it can't be shipped
with mandrake.
Just curious.

For now, i just linked to it.

eric

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Dennis Myers
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 03:17 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 October 2003 19:59, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > If you don't want to update to 9.2 from cooker mirrors, then
> > about the only viable way to get the iso's is to wait till the end
> > of this month when the iso's should be available by ftp, after the
> > boxed sets are shipping. I agree and support Mandrake doin this,
> > I'm just very disappointed it's currently by bittorrent.
> > --
> > Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas
>
> Yep, I'm waiting for that.
> I'm waiving my silver membership for that.bittorrent sux:(
>
> Good luck,
> HarM
I will second the bittorrent sux, I have had it running most of the day and 
still can not get a d/l started.  Not connecting with a tracker. : (
Dennis M. linux user #180842

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[newbie] Permissions solution

2003-10-14 Thread linux
Anyone having any ideas as to how I can get my user account
to the point of being able to read and write the /mp3s
partition?  Surely there's a solution.

Thanks!!

-A

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RE: [newbie] And the beat goes on...

2003-10-14 Thread linux
I never believe anything that comes from the register.. but
that's just me.

-A

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 4:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] And the beat goes on...


On October 14, 2003 12:56 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Poor, poor, Microsloth... ;-)
>
> http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-10-14-019-26-NW-MS-PB

We'll have to see exactly what it is that Isreal will do here.  The news is
definitely encouraging.

The responses to a post on the site are not, however.  Do we really take
ourselves so seriously that what is either an obvious troll or just someone
trying, without much success, to be ironic, needs to be answered by many
self
evident posts, justifications and flames?

Hey folks!  Lighten up!  If it's a troll, ignore it.  Answering trolls only
encourages them.  Ditto if it's a rotten attempt to be ironic.

ttfn

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Re: [newbie] And the beat goes on...

2003-10-14 Thread John Wilson
On October 14, 2003 12:56 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Poor, poor, Microsloth... ;-)
>
> http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-10-14-019-26-NW-MS-PB

We'll have to see exactly what it is that Isreal will do here.  The news is 
definitely encouraging.

The responses to a post on the site are not, however.  Do we really take 
ourselves so seriously that what is either an obvious troll or just someone 
trying, without much success, to be ironic, needs to be answered by many self 
evident posts, justifications and flames?

Hey folks!  Lighten up!  If it's a troll, ignore it.  Answering trolls only 
encourages them.  Ditto if it's a rotten attempt to be ironic.

ttfn

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Re: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems

2003-10-14 Thread John Wilson
On October 14, 2003 09:23 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I think that article would serve well to be in Twiki. Just
> be sure to get the author's permission before pushing it
> to a PDF.  I would recommend putting it up in it's original
> form if the author will allow it.  Rewritting it will surely
> take away from it's original clarity and easy read.
>
> Just my thoughts.
>
> -A
>

Eric is right about potential legal issues with respect to this article though 
one is left to wonder about the notion of "fair use".

It would certainly not be my intention to change a dot of the article as that 
would create major problems with both the the publisher and the author.  I 
think it's called plagarism. :-)

Nor was it ever my intent to republish the article on a PDF.  Personally I 
find PDF files to be an enormous pain in the butt and really have never seen 
the point in them.  Also, PDF is proprietory and I'm not comfortable using a 
proprietory format on Twiki.

ttfn

John

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 22:32, Charlie M. wrote:
> I'll still re-up the membership, but it's only a method to support my
> favourite distribution. I've never logged into the Club site.

I've still got 700 and so much days to go before my membership expiresI'm 
not sure 'cause I can't login, club is saturated.

That's about another 2 years i.e. upto Mdk-11.2 ;)
I'll just pre-order a boxed set at Mdk store anyway. I'm doing this to support 
(I run cooker) so who cares if it takes a week or so longer.
I collect linux distro CD's, the more obscure (or older) the better:)

Soplease don't feel inhibited (anyone) to offer:D

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Charlie M.
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October 14, 2003 02:17 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 October 2003 19:59, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > If you don't want to update to 9.2 from cooker mirrors, then
> > about the only viable way to get the iso's is to wait till the end
> > of this month when the iso's should be available by ftp, after the
> > boxed sets are shipping. I agree and support Mandrake doin this,
> > I'm just very disappointed it's currently by bittorrent.
> > --
> > Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas
>
> Yep, I'm waiting for that.
> I'm waiving my silver membership for that.bittorrent sux:(
>
> Good luck,
> HarM

I'll still re-up the membership, but it's only a method to support my 
favourite distribution. I've never logged into the Club site. 

I suppose I'll have to order the box set from the store since the "retail 
channels" here in Canada (this part of it anyway) suck vacuum through a 
thousand mile long leaky straw.

Who the devil has time for the club?

C.
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner
Charlie wrote:

[...]

> But you're still better off doing it Tom's way. Remember that at the moment
> there's very little difference between cooker and 9.2 Canicule anyway.

Thank you in advance.

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Charlie M.
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October 14, 2003 01:22 pm, Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner wrote:
> > > Um, I'm currently downloading it via FTP:  ftp.phys.ttu.edu
> >
> > 
> >
> > That's RC2; NOT 9.2. Those ISOs are more than a month old and there are
> > so many updates between that and current cooker that you may as well just
> > do as Tom suggests and go for a full cooker upgrade. That would actually
> > involve less bandwidth than what you're doing.
>
> You can use: ftp://ftp.phys.ttu.edu/pub/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS for
> [urpmi --auto-select] your 9.1-Mandrake.
>
> Am I right?
>
> Thorsten

You should be able to, with some restrictions;

you need a fast enough connection to make it worthwhile,

you need to change the "Path to hdlist/synthesis" to reflect the new tree 
you're pulling from.

If you have the space on your system I'd recommend that you ftp the 9.2 tree 
(all of it including contrib) from any mirror you can find it on to a local 
directory and make a boot floppy or CD using the hd.img from /Mandrake/base. 
You can quite likely do a hard drive "upgrade" install that way.

But you're still better off doing it Tom's way. Remember that at the moment 
there's very little difference between cooker and 9.2 Canicule anyway.

Regards;
Charlie
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 19:59, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> If you don't want to update to 9.2 from cooker mirrors, then
> about the only viable way to get the iso's is to wait till the end
> of this month when the iso's should be available by ftp, after the
> boxed sets are shipping. I agree and support Mandrake doin this,
> I'm just very disappointed it's currently by bittorrent.
> --
> Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas

Yep, I'm waiting for that.
I'm waiving my silver membership for that.bittorrent sux:(

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 21:26, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
> Can someone tell me HOW i can do this? I already have the ISO for RC2 of
> 9.2
>
> thanks!
>
> YPK
http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/rsync-mandrakeiso.html
tells all:)

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Re: [newbie] And the beat goes on...

2003-10-14 Thread Walt Frampus
Ronald J. Hall wrote:

Poor, poor, Microsloth... ;-)

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-10-14-019-26-NW-MS-PB

 



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mean anything. It is big corporations not using them that would kill 
them. This is probably true in my book.

Walt

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Sharrea Day
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:49, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
> Ditto on that Error 404!!!
>
> On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 12:47, Poogle wrote:
> > On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 H:41 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:26 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > > > 9.2 is out for club members
> > > >
> > > > Good luck,
> > > > HarM
> > >
> > > Saw that, but I am not able to connect to a tracker, how bout anyone
> > > else?
> >
> > Likewise - error 404

For me clicking on the torrent in the browser starts btdownloadergui which 
promptly gives me an error message:
"GOT BAD FILE_INFO"
or similar

A clue anyone?

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[newbie] And the beat goes on...

2003-10-14 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Poor, poor, Microsloth... ;-)

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-10-14-019-26-NW-MS-PB

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Charlie M.
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October 14, 2003 01:26 pm, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
>
> Can someone tell me HOW i can do this? I already have the ISO for RC2 of
> 9.2
>
> thanks!
>
> YPK

See the Community Wiki. I believe it's been added there, 

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome

if not it's still on Greg's page at:

http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/rsync-mandrakeiso.html

It won't do you any good until the ISOs are available on the mirrors that are 
set for rsync though.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Yoel P. Krigsman
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 15:07, Charlie M. wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> October 14, 2003 12:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Um, I'm currently downloading it via FTP:  ftp.phys.ttu.edu
> 
> 
> That's RC2; NOT 9.2. Those ISOs are more than a month old and there are so 
> many updates between that and current cooker that you may as well just do as 
> Tom suggests and go for a full cooker upgrade. That would actually involve 
> less bandwidth than what you're doing.
> 
> Or just do a network install from the 9.2 tree on the same machine. Probably 
> just as fast.
> BTW don't toss the ISOs you already have, you can rsync them to the actual 
> release when it's available on the mirrors.

Can someone tell me HOW i can do this? I already have the ISO for RC2 of
9.2 

thanks!

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner
> > Um, I'm currently downloading it via FTP:  ftp.phys.ttu.edu

> 

> That's RC2; NOT 9.2. Those ISOs are more than a month old and there are so
> many updates between that and current cooker that you may as well just do
> as Tom suggests and go for a full cooker upgrade. That would actually
> involve less bandwidth than what you're doing.

You can use: ftp://ftp.phys.ttu.edu/pub/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS for 
[urpmi --auto-select] your 9.1-Mandrake.

Am I right?

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Charlie M.
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October 14, 2003 12:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Um, I'm currently downloading it via FTP:  ftp.phys.ttu.edu


That's RC2; NOT 9.2. Those ISOs are more than a month old and there are so 
many updates between that and current cooker that you may as well just do as 
Tom suggests and go for a full cooker upgrade. That would actually involve 
less bandwidth than what you're doing.

Or just do a network install from the 9.2 tree on the same machine. Probably 
just as fast.

BTW don't toss the ISOs you already have, you can rsync them to the actual 
release when it's available on the mirrors.

Regards;
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[newbie] P.S. Good Luck Ya'll

2003-10-14 Thread Duron . Davis
Mandrake Linux 9.2 for i586 and higher
 
Mandrake 9.2 Packs & CDs are available for order at Mandrakestore.com. 


Austria


ftp://ftp.tugraz.at/mirror/Mandrake-linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Graz) 
Czech Republic

ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ 
ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/OS/Linux/Dist/Mandrake/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Prague)

Denmark

ftp://ftp.darenet.dk/pub/linux/mandrake/9.2/i586/ 
ftp://ftp.sunsite.dk/mirrors/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Aalborg) 
Estonia

ftp://ftp.aso.ee/pub/os/Linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/ 
Finland

ftp://ftp.song.fi/pub/linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Espoo) 
France

ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Lyon) 
ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Nancy) 
ftp://ftp.u-strasbg.fr/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/
(Strasbourg) 
ftp://linux.ups-tlse.fr/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Toulouse) 
Germany

ftp://ftp.fh-giessen.de/pub/linux/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Giessen) 
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Goettingen) 
ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/
(Munchen) 
ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Chemnitz) 
ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (bayreuth) 
ftp://ftp.uni-kassel.de/pub/linux/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Kassel) 
Netherlands

ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ 
ftp://ftp.surfnet.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ 
Norway

ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Oslo) 
Poland

ftp://ftp.task.gda.pl/pub/linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Gdansk) 
Spain

ftp://ftp.cica.es/pub/Linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Sevilla) 
Sweden

ftp://ftp.du.se/pub/os/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Dalarma) 
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/ 
United Kingdom

ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake
/9.2/i586/ (Canterbury) 
United States

ftp://ftp.cs.ucr.edu/pub/mirrors/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (California) 
ftp://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub/linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Utah) 
ftp://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Indiana) 
ftp://ftp.phys.ttu.edu/pub/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Texas) 
ftp://ftp.umr.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Missouri) 
ftp://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Indiana) 
ftp://mandrake.mirrors.pair.com/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Pennsylvania) 
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ 


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Re: [newbie] OT: Mad Russians (sms) and list issues

2003-10-14 Thread Eric Huff
> > There is someone sub'd as [EMAIL PROTECTED]  which
> > looks like it might be the cel phone number. (actual numbers
> > witheld to protect the guilty)

I deleted that address.  I guess this email will be my first test to
see if that was the culprit...  (ie, will i get an sms response? :)

eric

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RE: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Duron . Davis
Um, I'm currently downloading it via FTP:  ftp.phys.ttu.edu

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Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 1:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!


On Tuesday October 14 2003 11:49 am, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
> Ditto on that Error 404!!!
>
> I am wondering if 9.2RC2 is the same as 9.2

   If you're using RC2, you can just add cooker sources for RPMS and 
RPM2 from a cooker mirror and update to
tom $ cat /etc/mandrake-release
Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (Torrent) for i586

  A lot less frustrating than bittorrent, and less mb's to d/l too.
Current cooker on the mirrors is 9.2, plus a few updates. 9.1 users 
can also use cooker to update to 9.2, just 'urpmi urpmi' first, 
then get the rest. Don't be put off by the total number of mb's 
urpmi displays. That's installed space, not actual d/l. As a rule 
of thumb, the amount you'll be d/l'g is about 40% of the installed 
space. Since you're upgrading (ie, replacing packages) there'll be 
little to no additional disk space needed. The challenge will be 
finding a good mirror. (hint: European mirrors are better)
  http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3

   I'm really disappointed 9.2 is available to Club members thru 
torrent and not iso's by ftp.  Torrent sux!  As does any p2p scheme 
for big files when getters far outnumber givers. And given the 
nature of asyncronous BB connections, givers upload speeds will be 
much slower than the getters d/l speeds. Many users will see d/l 
speeds slower than dialup, while their own upload speed will be 
max'd out.  And, after sufferin thru a long slow d/l of the iso's 
by torrent, you just might find the md5sums won't check. Another 
p2p problem with getting large files from many sources (givers).

If you don't want to update to 9.2 from cooker mirrors, then 
about the only viable way to get the iso's is to wait till the end 
of this month when the iso's should be available by ftp, after the 
boxed sets are shipping. I agree and support Mandrake doin this, 
I'm just very disappointed it's currently by bittorrent.
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Avi Schwartz
Tom Brinkman wrote:

   I'm really disappointed 9.2 is available to Club members thru 
torrent and not iso's by ftp.  Torrent sux!  As does any p2p scheme 
for big files when getters far outnumber givers. And given the 
nature of asyncronous BB connections, givers upload speeds will be 
much slower than the getters d/l speeds. Many users will see d/l 
speeds slower than dialup, while their own upload speed will be 
max'd out.  And, after sufferin thru a long slow d/l of the iso's 
by torrent, you just might find the md5sums won't check. Another 
p2p problem with getting large files from many sources (givers).
I am getting Download rate of 165 KB/s and Upload rate of 55 KB/s on my 
company's T1.

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Re: [newbie] XWC - Undelete?

2003-10-14 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday October 14 2003 08:59 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Tuesday October 14 2003 10:39 am, Jason Greenwood wrote:
> > Anyone know how to undelete in XWC? I accidentally deleted some
> > files I'd dearly like to have back =(
> >
> > Cheers All,
> >
> > Jason
>
> File manager you use isn't the question, what file system you
> use is. Anyhow, undelete is not doable, and/or you won't be too
> happy with the results anyhow.  If the files you accidently
> deleted belong to a package, just use 'rpm -Uvh --force
> package.rpm' (same version/patch level as already installed) to
> replace the missing files. See 'man rpm' to see just what --force
> does. This is just about the only proper use of --force. If it
> was your data or config files, restore from the backups you
> regularly make ;)

   Just an addition. There's a pertinent article to the subject 
today at 
http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/10/08/1416248.shtml?tid=23

It's mostly about recovering file systems, but deals with 
undeleting also. If you read the whole article, I believe you'll 
see why I wrote 'undelete is not doable, and/or '.
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[newbie] Re: Spamassassin Configuration

2003-10-14 Thread Björn Lundin
Erylon Hines wrote:

> Anyone have some tips on this?

http://www.softwaredesign.co.uk/Information.SpamFilters.html

I followed it, rpm:ed spammassassin and running it as a daemon,
Quick to set up, and runs well.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] bnl]# rpm -qa | grep -i spam
spamassassin-tools-2.55-2mdk
perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.55-2mdk
spamassassin-2.55-2mdk



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RE: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems

2003-10-14 Thread linux
I think that article would serve well to be in Twiki. Just
be sure to get the author's permission before pushing it
to a PDF.  I would recommend putting it up in it's original
form if the author will allow it.  Rewritting it will surely
take away from it's original clarity and easy read.

Just my thoughts.

-A

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Huff
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 10:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems


> > > Excellent article!  Do you think a link should be put on Twiki
> > > for it?
> >
> > If you think it's a good article, then sure, put it on the wiki!
> >
> > I would suggest going to
> >
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/InstallationAndSystemConfiguration
> > and adding the link.  Or, add a page if you have more you want
> > to add.
>
> Gonna make me do it, eh? :-)

Sorry, just trying to get people used to the idea :)

Regarding links being broken, Maybe we should just "print" it to pdf
and include the file on the twiki, giving proper credit and reason
for pdf'ing it?

If that's what people want, i'll be happy to do it.  (it'll be my
1st time attaching a file in wiki...)

Or, i guess we could save the html?  What are the legal issues with
this sort of thing?

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Re: [newbie] Adding files to CD-RW with k3b

2003-10-14 Thread Charlie M.
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October 13, 2003 08:25 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> I have burned some data (.mp3 files) on a CD-RW using k3b.  It only used
> about half of the disk.  Now I want to add some additional files to it
> (new session?) but can't seem to find a way to take more files and add
> to the existing CD-RW disk.  Am I missing something.  Should I have
> saved the first burn as a session?
>
> Thanks.

Yes. Yes. Yes. 

You'll probably have to copy the files off the CD-RW and then blank the disk, 
then in the new project select multi seesion in order to do what you want.

Multi session is slightly wasteful (about 10 MB waste per session IIRC) but 
less so than not using the space available.

Regards;
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Re: [newbie] printing to pdf w/o using kprinter

2003-10-14 Thread Eric Huff
> > I know i can print to ps, then ps2pdf.  Hmmm i wonder if i
> > could get a bash script to do it...
> >
> 
> Of course. That is all kprinter does.
> 
> Open KDE ControlCentre>Peripherals>Printers
> 
> Right click on the pdf pseudo printer>select configure> click on
> the spanner icon next to  "PostScript to pdf converter"> click on
> "Edit command"
> 
> and you will see it just calls up the command
> 
> gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite
> -sOutputFile=%filteroutput -sPAPERSIZE=%psl %filterargs -c
> .setpdfwrite -f %filterinput

That rocks!  I should poke around kcontrol some more and see what
else is in there...

Thanks Derek,
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread Dennis Myers
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:26 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> 9.2 is out for club members
>
> Good luck,
> HarM
Saw that, but I am not able to connect to a tracker, how bout anyone else?
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Re: [newbie] printing to pdf w/o using kprinter

2003-10-14 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 4:24 pm, Eric Huff wrote:
> Anyone know how to print to pdf (from all programs, well
> specifically mozilla) w/o using kprinter?
>
> kprinter (which is also where qtcups links to) is s slow to
> start up...
>
> I know i can print to ps, then ps2pdf.  Hmmm i wonder if i could
> get a bash script to do it...
>
> thanks,
> eric

Of course. That is all kprinter does.

Open KDE ControlCentre>Peripherals>Printers

Right click on the pdf pseudo printer>select configure> click on the spanner 
icon next to  "PostScript to pdf converter"> click on "Edit command"

and you will see it just calls up the command

gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=%filteroutput 
-sPAPERSIZE=%psl %filterargs -c .setpdfwrite -f %filterinput


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[newbie] OT: Mad Russians (sms) and list issues

2003-10-14 Thread Eric Huff
> Return-path: 

Hi folks.  I was going to wait until the
owner or request email was getting forwarded properly,
but since this came up:

There were no "owners" for newbie, so Charles put me on the owner
list so that someone (besides him) could deal with list issues.

There is someone sub'd as [EMAIL PROTECTED]  which
looks like it might be the cel phone number. (actual numbers witheld
to protect the guilty)

I sent a message to that address, and if i don't here back, i'll
unsub it.

I just got this in response to the mail:  Short Message delivery
answer: Message for +### with identification ### has
been delivered on 2003-10-14 at 08:57:41.

Well, i'd say that's a cel phone

Anyway, if anyone has trouble subing or unsubing, i can
help with that now.

(unfortunately, i have no power over the sympa issues...)

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Re: [newbie] sensitive materials

2003-10-14 Thread Eric Huff
> > Just because i am paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get
> > me.
> >
> How about spraying the keyboard and mouse with some kind of killer
> spray you yourself are immune to?

Hmmm..., that might work...


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[newbie] printing to pdf w/o using kprinter

2003-10-14 Thread Eric Huff
Anyone know how to print to pdf (from all programs, well
specifically mozilla) w/o using kprinter?

kprinter (which is also where qtcups links to) is s slow to
start up...

I know i can print to ps, then ps2pdf.  Hmmm i wonder if i could
get a bash script to do it...

thanks,
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Re: [newbie] sensitive materials

2003-10-14 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 17:11, Eric Huff wrote:
> I am also about to build a new computer desk here, and was planning
> on making the computer fastened heavily to the table (is enclosed
> except for ventilation).  At least this way a burgler would have to
> work hard to get it, which they're not likely to do...
>
> Just because i am paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
>
> eric
How about spraying the keyboard and mouse with some kind of killer spray you 
yourself are immune to?

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Re: [newbie] linux complient notebooks

2003-10-14 Thread Franki
L.V.Gandhi wrote:

I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks 
without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing 
intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless 
connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also 
video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented 
jobs.
 

I have just just gotten a Dell Inspiron 5150,
 

3.06gig  Mobile Pention 4.
512MB DDR.
Geforce FX5200 go.
60 gig HDD.
TM1300 b/g wireless.
I have not loaded linux on it yet, was waiting for Mandrake 9.2
however I did start the machine with knoppix and it all seemed to work fine.
Didn't try the wireless but some searching on the net shows it is 
possible to work, but you have to compile a module to do it. (no biggie).

When mdk9.2 comes out, I will be documenting all the steps I took to get 
it working and link it on the Twiki.

hope that helps.

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Re: [newbie] sensitive materials

2003-10-14 Thread Eric Huff
> > > I have wanted the same thing because i am a little paranoid:
> > > what if my computer gets stolen?  Then anyone who wants to be
> > > will be root...
> > 
> > Yes, but there is no such thing as 100% security. But I doubt
> > the ordinary burglar has access to a linux boot disk - and the
> > skill to use it. My guess is, that he uses another popular OS, 
> > uncapable to read a linux file system. To him, there's nothing 
> > than gibberish on the disk. If you are paranoid, keep sensitive 
> > material outside a PC, locked down in a safe in a locked and 
> > guarded room. Booby-trap it and hope for the best.
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Kaj haulrich.
> 
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6381

Cool.  Thanks for the link.

I am also about to build a new computer desk here, and was planning
on making the computer fastened heavily to the table (is enclosed
except for ventilation).  At least this way a burgler would have to
work hard to get it, which they're not likely to do...

Just because i am paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.

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Re: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems

2003-10-14 Thread Eric Huff
> > > Excellent article!  Do you think a link should be put on Twiki
> > > for it?
> >
> > If you think it's a good article, then sure, put it on the wiki!
> >
> > I would suggest going to
> > http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/InstallationAndSystemConfiguration
> > and adding the link.  Or, add a page if you have more you want
> > to add.
> 
> Gonna make me do it, eh? :-)

Sorry, just trying to get people used to the idea :)

Regarding links being broken, Maybe we should just "print" it to pdf
and include the file on the twiki, giving proper credit and reason
for pdf'ing it?

If that's what people want, i'll be happy to do it.  (it'll be my
1st time attaching a file in wiki...)

Or, i guess we could save the html?  What are the legal issues with
this sort of thing?

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[newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-14 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
9.2 is out for club members

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Re: [newbie] XWC - Undelete?

2003-10-14 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday October 14 2003 10:39 am, Jason Greenwood wrote:
> Anyone know how to undelete in XWC? I accidentally deleted some
> files I'd dearly like to have back =(
>
> Cheers All,
>
> Jason

File manager you use isn't the question, what file system you 
use is. Anyhow, undelete is not doable, and/or you won't be too 
happy with the results anyhow.  If the files you accidently deleted 
belong to a package, just use 'rpm -Uvh --force package.rpm' (same 
version/patch level as already installed) to replace the missing 
files. See 'man rpm' to see just what --force does. This is just 
about the only proper use of --force. If it was your data or config 
files, restore from the backups you regularly make ;)
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Re: [newbie] (2nd post)exporting directories via Samba or NFS?

2003-10-14 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 2:13 pm, you wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 17:14, Derek Jennings wrote:
> > On Monday 13 Oct 2003 6:10 pm, Thinker wrote:
> > > Could someone please point me in the right direction on how to
> > > accomplish this?
> > >
> > >  As I said, I finally got my old hard drive with mandrake 9.0 in a new
> > > machine and back on the network. Now, I need to take most of the files
> > > in my home directory (including /evolution ) and move them to my Win2k
> > > Machine for archiving and to my SuSE 8.2 Machine for use.
> > >
> > > Someone on the SuSE list suggested that I "start NFS on the Mandrake
> > > box and export the directory to the SuSE box. Then start Samba on the
> > > Mandrake box and export the same directory to the Windows machine."
> > >
> > > I am not too familiar with NFS and exporting directories. How does this
> > > work?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > -=Thinker
> >
> > I could tell you how to get NFS working, but I would have to stretch my
> > memory to do it and NFS sucks so bad I will tell you a better way.
> >
> > On your Suse machine install and start ssh server.
>
> OK. Got that.
>
> > Then on your Mandrake machine open a konqueror window and enter in the
> > url line
> > fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I did this and got an error on the mandrake box.
> "Protocol not supported  fish"
>
> I am using Mandrake 9.0 / KDE (konqueror 3.0.5a
>
> I went to the mandrake control center and looked for kio-fish or fish to
> install but I did not find anything. I googled and found your info on
> your site, but I was not able to access the server you linked to, and
> the other links from google had similar results. How do I go about
> getting kio-fish for my mandrake box?
>
> > You will then see the file system of the Suse machine displayed in
> > konqueror, and you can just frag and drop files into it..
> >
> > You could probably do it from Suse to Mandrake too. I just do not know if
> > Suse include the kio_fish plugin for konqueror.
>
> I tried this (going from SuSE to Mandrake)and did not get the same
> error.
> "could not connect to localhost"
>
> My SuSE box is more up to date than my Mandrake box (I have KDE 3.1.4 on
> it, thanks to apt). What should I do on my Mandrake box to allow me to
> get to it from my SuSE box?
>
> > kio_fish is a plugin for konqueror whuch uses sftp (secure ftp) to
> > transfer files between the machines. You can use it on any computer
> > Linux/Unix or Windows which has an ssh server running.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > derek
> >
> > BTW: Please delete the "Reply To" in your Evolution config. It is not
> > necessary and a pain when replying to your posts.
>
> What exactly do you mean here? Take out my reply-to address? Why would I
> do that? I thought you were supposed to do that in Evolution when you
> are using it to manage multiple accounts.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> -=Thinker

As I recall in 9.0 kio_fish is in contrib and a lot of the mirrors no longer 
have 9.0/contrib so it might be a bit difficult to find the RPM.
In 9.1 kio_fish is installed as standard, and according to rpmfind.net there 
is an RPM for Suse called kio_fish so it might be easier to do it with the 
ssh server on Mandrake.

You could always use gftp instead of kio_fish.

Just start gftp and log onto the ssh server. Just remember to select the drop 
down box on the right as ssh.
Not as pretty as konqueror, but it will get the job done.

As for the "Reply To" in your posts. :-
Normally when people reply to an email the reply will go to the same address 
the mail came from. But if you fill that in the "Reply To" field then when 
people reply to your mails they will always go to that address. This is not 
usually an issue since normally the addresses are the same.
But when you post to a mailing list the "From" address is that of the mail 
server. In this case [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When I reply to a post I want the reply to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Only trouble is your Reply To overrides it, and I have to re-address the post 
to make sure it goes to the correct destination.

Of course that is less trouble than writing this paragraph explaining why 
"Reply To" is a pain  ;-)

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[newbie] linux complient notebooks

2003-10-14 Thread L.V.Gandhi
I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks 
without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing 
intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless 
connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also 
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Re: [newbie] (2nd post)exporting directories via Samba or NFS?

2003-10-14 Thread Thinker
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 17:14, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Monday 13 Oct 2003 6:10 pm, Thinker wrote:
> > Could someone please point me in the right direction on how to accomplish
> > this?
> >
> >  As I said, I finally got my old hard drive with mandrake 9.0 in a new
> > machine and back on the network. Now, I need to take most of the files in
> > my home directory (including /evolution ) and move them to my Win2k Machine
> > for archiving and to my SuSE 8.2 Machine for use.
> >
> > Someone on the SuSE list suggested that I "start NFS on the Mandrake box
> > and export the directory to the SuSE box. Then start Samba on the
> > Mandrake box and export the same directory to the Windows machine."
> >
> > I am not too familiar with NFS and exporting directories. How does this
> > work?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > -=Thinker
> 
> I could tell you how to get NFS working, but I would have to stretch my memory 
> to do it and NFS sucks so bad I will tell you a better way.
> 
> On your Suse machine install and start ssh server.

OK. Got that.

> 
> Then on your Mandrake machine open a konqueror window and enter in the url 
> line
> fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I did this and got an error on the mandrake box. 
"Protocol not supported  fish"

I am using Mandrake 9.0 / KDE (konqueror 3.0.5a 

I went to the mandrake control center and looked for kio-fish or fish to
install but I did not find anything. I googled and found your info on
your site, but I was not able to access the server you linked to, and
the other links from google had similar results. How do I go about
getting kio-fish for my mandrake box?


> 
> You will then see the file system of the Suse machine displayed in konqueror, 
> and you can just frag and drop files into it..
> 
> You could probably do it from Suse to Mandrake too. I just do not know if Suse  
> include the kio_fish plugin for konqueror.

I tried this (going from SuSE to Mandrake)and did not get the same
error.
"could not connect to localhost"

My SuSE box is more up to date than my Mandrake box (I have KDE 3.1.4 on
it, thanks to apt). What should I do on my Mandrake box to allow me to
get to it from my SuSE box?

> 
> kio_fish is a plugin for konqueror whuch uses sftp (secure ftp) to transfer 
> files between the machines. You can use it on any computer Linux/Unix or 
> Windows which has an ssh server running.
> 
> HTH
> 
> derek
> 
> BTW: Please delete the "Reply To" in your Evolution config. It is not 
> necessary and a pain when replying to your posts. 

What exactly do you mean here? Take out my reply-to address? Why would I
do that? I thought you were supposed to do that in Evolution when you
are using it to manage multiple accounts.

Thanks for your help,

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Re: [newbie] MCC is missing from my Menus

2003-10-14 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 08:02 am, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
> If I choose this method, do i have to install the whole packages over
> again? like Opera, Vmware etc..

Probably not, it doesn't overwrite the directories, IIRC, it just updates the 
packages that are there.  However, you may not get a working system since 
newer packages won't be overwritten and I don't think that Texstar stuff will 
coexist with the regular Mandrake stuff, at least not all of it.

You can always download the Texstar rpm's manually and run RPM to install them 
to try to get your system working again.  Funny, this is the first time I 
have heard of packages getting removed by installing updates, normally, if 
the package install doesn't work, you still have the original files there.  
You might want do an ls in /usr/bin/ to see if the mcc application is there 
but just renamed to something like mcc.rpmold.

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Re: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems

2003-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I checked out the article, and I can definitely add to the newbie
perspective and say that it would have been a lot of help had I read it
before installation.  I've cleared up a lot of file system questions I
had just by reading that article.

-A

On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 00:06, Eric Huff wrote:
> > > http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/10/07/196222&mode=thread&tid=23
> > 
> > Excellent article!  Do you think a link should be put on Twiki for
> > it?
> 
> 
> If you thikn it's a good article, then sure, put it on the wiki!
> 
> I would suggest going to 
> http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/InstallationAndSystemConfiguration
> and adding the link.  Or, add a page if you have more you want to
> add.
> 


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Re: [newbie] Good news .. and a question

2003-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you all for replying and suggesting changes to my line of
thinking.  That is exactly what I was looking for since at this point
it's hard to trust anything I think up on my own.

I've taken everyone's advice (which thinking about it now, makes perfect
sense) and have created a directory inside my /home/user directory to
hold my backgrounds.  Works a peach.

I'm still unclear, on how to handle the /mp3s directory/partition. I
don't mind storing all the mp3s under /home if that is the best thing
to do permissions wise/global wise, but at this point, I wouldn't know
how to move that directory and it's mount point to /home.  If someone
could be a little more detailed, that would help a lot.  Thanks, again.
Not sure what I'd do without this list.


| aaron west
| www.trajiklyhip.com

On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 06:20, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Monday 13 Oct 2003 11:54 pm, Russ wrote:
> > John Wilson wrote:
> > >>As a second example, I downloaded a really nice wallpaper and when
> > >>attempting to copy the wallpaper to the /usr/share/wallpapers directory
> > >>I get another access denied message.
> > >
> > > As someone else has pointed out it's bad form to mess around with
> > > permissions outside your home directory.  Thankfully you can don't need
> > > to.  You can set up a directory right in your home directory for
> > > wallpapers.  In KDE and, I assume, GNOME you don't need to stay
> > > /usr/share/wallpapers to get your picture loaded.
> 
> > I can understand why Aaron would want this. If he has other users on his
> > computer then they would also have access to that wallpaper if it was
> > placed in /usr/share/wallpapers. I ran into the same problem when I
> > started but ended up just creating a folder for them in my home
> > directory as you suggested.
> >
> > Russ
> >
> 
> If Aaron were to  change the permissions on /usr/share/wallpapers to allow him 
> to keep his new wallpaper there, then he would find that the msec(Mandrake 
> Secure)   security  system would only go and change them back again one hour 
> later.
> 
> Then he would be posting here asking why he cannot change permissions.
> 
> The easiest solution is to not mess with permissions, and to either open a 
> 'Super User' instance of konqueror to write the file to /usr/share/wallpapers
> (KMenu>Applications>FileTools>FileManager(SuperUserMode) ), or else keep his 
> downloaded wallpapers in a directory in his /home.
> 
> Using a directory in /home has the advantage that when he comes to upgrade his 
> system, his downloaded wallpapers will not be lost.
> 
> derek



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Re: [newbie] Blender - ing

2003-10-14 Thread Anarky
Tango Echo wrote:

--- Anarky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

John Richard Smith wrote:

   

I installed blender on M9.0 and took a close look
 

... and there is a long list on the
 

elysiun forums in the 
tutorials sticky topic in "blender general"
category, I think ... and 
anyway, in case you're interested, here are some
bookmarks of mine:
   

What do you and others suggest for Wings 3D tutorials?
Just the ones that are on the Wings homepage?
 

   Yes, I guess so. Don't know of such a big user comunity there yet. I 
did one from there too :) ... or ... no ... I think I found this guys 
site with Wings3d links. Google around ... but yes .. I guess the tuts 
there are best.
Also .. if you wanna be left staring with awe ... search for videos of 
Martin Krol working in Mirai (I think wings3d has this program as one of 
it's inspirations :) ).


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Re: [newbie] MCC is missing from my Menus

2003-10-14 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 14:02, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
> If I choose this method, do i have to install the whole packages over
> again? like Opera, Vmware etc..
>
No

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Re: [newbie] Blender - ing

2003-10-14 Thread Tango Echo

--- Anarky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Richard Smith wrote:
> 
> > I installed blender on M9.0 and took a close look

 ... and there is a long list on the
> elysiun forums in the 
> tutorials sticky topic in "blender general"
> category, I think ... and 
> anyway, in case you're interested, here are some
> bookmarks of mine:

What do you and others suggest for Wings 3D tutorials?
 Just the ones that are on the Wings homepage?

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