Re: [newbie] testing postfix

2003-10-21 Thread Eric Huff
> testing postfix

Sorry for the multiple tests.

Our list is very flaky.  I am trying to test sending an automated
mail to the list once a week to help out the newcomers.

It seems that even though a mail does not go to sympa at whatever,
the server still looks for commands in it.  I noticed once before
the if the sympa address was in the body of the mail, it would cause
problems.

I'll have to figure out which line is the issue (probably the one
that says how to unsubscribe newbie.

eric

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[newbie] testing postfix

2003-10-21 Thread newbie
testing postfix

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[newbie] test

2003-10-21 Thread Eric Huff
test

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[newbie] 9.2 KDE Kmenu link drag n drop

2003-10-21 Thread Jason Greenwood
How the heck do you drag and drop app links to the desktop now?? U used 
to be able to left click and drag,now it's x'd out???

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[newbie] how do I kill teh firewall in Mandrake 9.0?

2003-10-21 Thread hendrik
I'm back here, after a prolonged absence.

I just did a fresh install of the powerpack edition of Mandrake 9.0.
My previous installation on the same machine was the download edition
of Mandrake 8.1, upgraded by "upgrade packages only" to Mandrake 9.0.

My problem is that after the fresh install I seem to have lost all
network connectivity.  The Windows ME on the same machine works fine,
as does the networking on Debian on the same machine. (I have three
systems installed, on in each primary partition)

I suspect that a firewall in the Mandrake installation may be in the way.
My question is, how do I get rid of it (and, for that matter, how did I
ever install it?  I don't remember asking for it).  The entire subnet
the machine is on is in fact behind another firewall, and I don't need
one on the Mandrake box.

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Re: [newbie] Help with memtest and errors. (a little long) now trimmed :)

2003-10-21 Thread Terence J. Golightly
Tom/List,

I bought the memory according to a newer post to you sent (I can't find
it :( ).  Got the Two 512 MB sticks in the mail and stuck them both in
(using proper static aviodance procedure) and tested.  Memtest gave me
errors in the five figure area.  I shutdown and tested each stick
individually. One stick is fine and the other gave two errors in test 5.
Why would I get 5 figure errors when both sticks are installed and only
two when the "bad" stick in installed. If you want the particulars of
the output, I'll post them it you like.

Terry

oh btw I didn't notice a selection that would allow me to save output to
disk.  Is there one?


On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 10:31, Tom Brinkman wrote:

> Boot to memtest86, and as soon as it's running, press the  
> key for configuration. From memory, I believe you want to then 
> select 6, then 2, then 8. Check the docs, but this should restart 
> the test, log and report bad memory areas. Then you can add those 
> statements to lilo or grub to let the kernel know not to use them. 
> All of this works only if you are running one of the latest 
> Mandrake kernels with the 'badmem' patch. AFAIK, that means, 
> 2.4.22-7mdk or newer. I know for sure the tmb kernels have this 
> patch, eg, 2.4.22-12.tmb.1mdk
> 
>I'd just replace the ram, and offer the old stuff to somebody I 
> didn't like ;)  You can always depend on Crucial for quality ram.
>   http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM
>  Corsair is good too,
>   http://www.corsairmicro.com/
> 
>A good measure is to buy better ram than you need. EG, if pc100 
> is required, buy pc133. Ditto, pc2700 is required, get pc3200. 
> Those are just consumer labels tho. Important ratings are ns 
> (nanosecond) and Cas rating. The lower the better. I recently 
> failed to follow my own advice, and now I'm stuck with some under 
> performing (no bad areas tho) Kingston junk till I get around to 
> replacin it.




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Re: [newbie] Scanner (SCSI) question

2003-10-21 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 04:52 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

> I'd see it as HardwareIssues, because it's a configuration problem,
> not a compatibility report, so how about
> http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/SCSI ?
>
> Anne

Ah...Anne - looks like its already there under "Additional Notes".

Almost verbatim to what I posted here... :-)

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Re: [newbie] Soyo KT400 Motherboard

2003-10-21 Thread Heather/Femme

 answer is, there are two ide connections on the RAID controller.
>  Each 
> connection can support two hard drives.  For RAID to work, there need
> to be two identical hard drives hooked up to a single connector, those
> are then striped so that they mirror each other.
> 
> It would appear that you could hook two drives up to one connector and
> create a striped volume and then hook up one drive or two drives to
> the other connector and use it or them as regular ide drives.  You can
> NOT hook up two drives to a single connector and have one of them RAID
> and the other a regular IDE drive.  I hope that that is a little more
> clear.
> 
> -- 
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> Software Test Engineer
> 
>

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Re: [newbie] Java Developer Kit???

2003-10-21 Thread Guy Rouillier


emim limam wrote:
Hhi guys, I need a nice and easy to use Java Developer
GUI. Is there any one i can use easily?
I am not advance in programming and also linux. So i
neet something really easy to configure and use? 
Like Jcreator.
any help and recommendation appreciated.
emin
There are many from which to choose, and preferences are very 
individual.  I've used both JBuilder (from Borland) and Eclipse and like 
them both.  Eclipse is freely available, and there is a version of 
JBuilder also available for free download.

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[newbie] Java Developer Kit???

2003-10-21 Thread emim limam
Hhi guys, I need a nice and easy to use Java Developer
GUI. Is there any one i can use easily?
I am not advance in programming and also linux. So i
neet something really easy to configure and use? 
Like Jcreator.
any help and recommendation appreciated.
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Re: [newbie] Soyo KT400 Motherboard

2003-10-21 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 05:23 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:03:10 -0400
> Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
>
> > I am pretty sure that you can use one RAID channel, say ide 2 as a
> > RAID device while the other channel, ide 3 is a normal ide channel
> > though.  Just don't stripe the sdc and sdd volumes and don't try to
> > access them through the scsi device files.
> >
> > --
> > Bryan Phinney
> > Software Test Engineer
>
> thats sorta what I was asking... thx... I think... I can't say I
> udnerstood everything you mentioned.
>
> sigh guess I got research to do.

Short answer is, there are two ide connections on the RAID controller.  Each 
connection can support two hard drives.  For RAID to work, there need to be 
two identical hard drives hooked up to a single connector, those are then 
striped so that they mirror each other.

It would appear that you could hook two drives up to one connector and create 
a striped volume and then hook up one drive or two drives to the other 
connector and use it or them as regular ide drives.  You can NOT hook up two 
drives to a single connector and have one of them RAID and the other a 
regular IDE drive.  I hope that that is a little more clear.

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[newbie] CDROM fails on detection

2003-10-21 Thread Dennis Myers
Wondering if anyone has run into this, I put a brand new (cheap $19.95 US)  LG 
CDROM in the computer, a Gigabyte MB with Athlon 2000 cpu and DDR ram, and as 
soon as Mandrake harddrake detects it the drive light goes steady on and the 
drive will not work.  At next boot up no light and no response the drive is 
dead.  Took it back for exchange three times and same results. So I stick the 
old 24X sony  CDROM back in and it works fine.  I have no idea what is going 
on.  The power supply is rock solid.  Could there be a mobo problem?  Any 
ideas?
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Re: [newbie] Kernel Compiling in 9.2

2003-10-21 Thread Sharrea Day
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:21, Joeb wrote:
> Sharrea Day wrote:
> >I need to build my own kernel so that I can use my satellite card for
> >internet connection.  The driver is compiled with gcc-2.96 and requires
> > the kernel to be compiled with the same.  No problem in 9.1 but having
> > just installed 9.2, the "make dep" gives an error:
< big snip>
> >Does anyone know how to get past this error?  I'm using the config from
> > the current Mandrake kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.
>
> First, let me say that I don't know the answer to how to fix your
> compile, but I do have a couple of things for you.  First the -wall in
> your make file will cause all errors AND warnings to stop the process.
> If you don't want warnings to stop the compile, remove the -wall.

Firstly, I apologise for the long post.
Joeb, thanks for your suggestions.  OK, removed the -Wall (in 2 places) from 
the Makefile and got past the error but it stopped on another error:

make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-10mdk/arch/i386/mm'
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-10mdk/include -Wstrict-prototypes 
-Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=athlon   -nostdinc -iwithprefix include 
-DKBUILD_BASENAME=init  -c init.c -o init.o
init.c:463: parse error before `_Bool'
init.c:464: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
init.c: In function `one_highpage_init':
init.c:465: `bad' undeclared (first use in this function)
init.c:465: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
init.c:465: for each function it appears in.)
init.c:466: `pfn' undeclared (first use in this function)
init.c:467: `page' undeclared (first use in this function)
init.c:471: `bad_ppro' undeclared (first use in this function)
init.c: In function `free_pages_init':
init.c:529: `_Bool' undeclared (first use in this function)
init.c:529: parse error before `bad'
init.c:530: `bad' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[2]: *** [init.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-10mdk/arch/i386/mm'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-10mdk/arch/i386/mm'
make: *** [_dir_arch/i386/mm] Error 2

Looked at the line containing "_Bool" but don't know what any of it meant so 
dead end there.

> Second and more important, have you tried just compiling the drivers as
> a module and using insmod to use them?  If you do compile them as a
> module, you will get an error about the kernel being compiled with 3.x
> and the module with 2.96, but it may still work if you use insmod -f
> mymodule (the -f says to force the module).  On the otherhand, it may
> not work.  On one of my boxes with a winmodem, the driver must be
> inserted with the -f because it, too, has an object file that was
> compiled with gcc 2.96, even though I am using gcc 3.3.

Just tried that but it wouldn't load the module even with the force option:

# insmod -f sm200d_lnx.o
Warning: The module you are trying to load (sm200d_lnx.o) is compiled with a 
gcc version 2 compiler, while the kernel you are running is compiled with
a gcc version 3 compiler. This is known to not work.
sm200d_lnx.o: unresolved symbol _mmx_memcpy
sm200d_lnx.o:
Hint: You are trying to load a module without a GPL compatible license
  and it has unresolved symbols.  The module may be trying to access
  GPLONLY symbols but the problem is more likely to be a coding or
  user error.  Contact the module supplier for assistance, only they
  can help you.

Think I'd better stick to re-compiling the kernel under 2.96 since I don't 
really know what I'm doing with this.

> Don't know if either of the two items will help or not, but you might
> try them.

Thanks very much for your suggestions/advice.  Thought perhaps the 
kernel-source package I downloaded from Mandrake Club may be at fault so 
I'm currently downloading it from a mirror 9.2 tree.  Will keep trying.

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Re: [newbie] Soyo KT400 Motherboard

2003-10-21 Thread Heather/Femme
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:03:10 -0400
Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I am pretty sure that you can use one RAID channel, say ide 2 as a
> RAID device while the other channel, ide 3 is a normal ide channel
> though.  Just don't stripe the sdc and sdd volumes and don't try to
> access them through the scsi device files.
> 
> -- 
> Bryan Phinney
> Software Test Engineer
> 
> 
> 
thats sorta what I was asking... thx... I think... I can't say I
udnerstood everything you mentioned.

sigh guess I got research to do.

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Re: [newbie] MSN Messenger + Linux clients

2003-10-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Derek. I launched MenuDrake in order to do what you suggested. I
have listed System Menu and User Menu. I selected my user in the
drop-down and then clicked configure but nothing happened.  How do I go
about adding this menu item to only my account's menu?

Thanks!

-A

On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 16:34, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 Oct 2003 10:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Why is it that after I start aMSN via the terminal the terminal session
> > that I used to start aMSN is dead.  Meaning, I can't do anything with
> > that terminal session unless I close out aMSN.
> >
> > Is there a way to launch aMSN through the GUI so I don't have a term
> > window just sitting around useless?
> >
> 
> You are running it in foreground.
> Start it with ./amsn &
> it will then run in background.
> 
> You could also use menudrake to create a menu entry.
> Use /path/to/directory/amsn as the command to start it.


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Re: [newbie] I'm goin' mobile....

2003-10-21 Thread Jerry Barton
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:17:02 -0700
"Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > > I'll be traveling off and on for the foreseable future, and I
> > don't want to
> > > bring a laptop.  What I'd like is some kind of a setup that allows me to
> > > connect to a remote machine that I've set up and use my apps
> > through there
> > > from Internet cafes.  What do you guys think might work?
> >
> > vnc.
> >
> > urpmi tightvnc-server
> >
> > There's a version of vnc viewer for windows.
> 
> I've never actually used VNC.  How is the lag time?

Not too bad considering.  I use it on my LAN mostly but occasionally from remote 
sites.  Of course it depends on the speed of both boxen and the network connection.  


> > > Also, I'm a little paranoid of keystroke loggers in Internet
> > cafes.  I was
> > > wondering if anyone has created any kind of an application to solve that
> > > problem.  Maybe an on-screen representation of a keyboard that
> > allows you to
> > > save your "click-strokes" to the clipboard?
> >
> > character map.  (usually a default part of windows boxen in the
> > icafe's i've been to)
> 
> Character map, I hadn't thought of that.  Good idea.
> 
> - Grant
> 
> 
> 

Glad to be of help.

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Re: [newbie] Samba/NFS/SSH to access a Mandrake Box

2003-10-21 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 20 Oct 2003 2:03 pm, Thinker wrote:
> 2nd try...
>
>
> I am currently using SuSE 8.2 (ftp version). I have Mandrake 9.0(MDK)
> installed on one box and Windows 2000 Professional (W2K)on another.
>
> The ultimate goal is to use the SuSE 8.2 box for work and such until
> SuSE 9.0 gets here. When the new SuSE gets here, I would like to have
> the MDK box clean and available. In order to do that, I need to copy my
> home directory from the MDK box to both the SuSE 8.2 box (for use of
> files) and more importantly to the W2K box (since it is the only machine
> with a working CD Burner).
>
> I cannot get ssh server installed correctly on the Mandrake box. I can see
> the box in LinNeighborhood but I cannot copy any files.
>
> How do I 'share' a directory so that I can copy the contents to both the
> Windows and SuSE 8.2 boxes?
>
> What is the easiest way to do this?
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -=Thinker

With the default samba comfiguration in Mandrake you will be able to see the 
home directories for any user so long as you run
smbpasswd -a user_name
as root. When prompted give the *windows* password for that user.
You will also need to set the workgroup name in the samba config file
/etc/samba/smb.conf

The default config file also contains lots of examples on how to set up 
different types of shares.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel Compiling in 9.2

2003-10-21 Thread Joeb
Sharrea Day wrote:

Hi all

I need to build my own kernel so that I can use my satellite card for 
internet connection.  The driver is compiled with gcc-2.96 and requires the 
kernel to be compiled with the same.  No problem in 9.1 but having just 
installed 9.2, the "make dep" gives an error:

/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-10mdk/scripts/mkdep -D__KERNEL__ 
-I/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-10mdk/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes 
-Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686  -nostdinc -iwithprefix include -- 
acpi.c acpitable.c acpitable.h acpi_wakeup.S apic.c apm.c bluesmoke.c 
cpuid.c dmi_scan.c e820.c elanfreq.c entry.S gx-suspmod.c head.S 
i386_ksyms.c i387.c i8259.c init_task.c io_apic.c ioport.c irq.c ldt.c 
longhaul.c longrun.c mca.c microcode.c mpparse.c msr.c mtrr.c nmi.c 
p4-clockmod.c pci-dma.c pci-i386.c pci-i386.h pci-irq.c pci-pc.c 
pci-visws.c powernow-k6.c powernow-k7.c powernow-k7.h process.c ptrace.c 
semaphore.c setup.c signal.c smpboot.c smp.c speedstep-centrino.c 
speedstep-ich.c sys_i386.c time.c trampoline.S traps.c visws_apic.c vm86.c 
 

.depend
   

make[2]: *** [fastdep] Error 139
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-10mdk/arch/i386/kernel'
make[1]: *** [_sfdep_arch/i386/kernel] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-10mdk'
make: *** [dep-files] Error 2
Does anyone know how to get past this error?  I'm using the config from the 
current Mandrake kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.

Any help much appreciated.

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First, let me say that I don't know the answer to how to fix your 
compile, but I do have a couple of things for you.  First the -wall in 
your make file will cause all errors AND warnings to stop the process.  
If you don't want warnings to stop the compile, remove the -wall. 

Second and more important, have you tried just compiling the drivers as 
a module and using insmod to use them?  If you do compile them as a 
module, you will get an error about the kernel being compiled with 3.x 
and the module with 2.96, but it may still work if you use insmod -f 
mymodule (the -f says to force the module).  On the otherhand, it may 
not work.  On one of my boxes with a winmodem, the driver must be 
inserted with the -f because it, too, has an object file that was 
compiled with gcc 2.96, even though I am using gcc 3.3.

Don't know if either of the two items will help or not, but you might 
try them.

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Re: [newbie] Soyo KT400 Motherboard

2003-10-21 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 01:36 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:

> perhaps a dumb question...
>
> can yo have devices on both the RAID connectors & the regular IDE ones?

If you mean a normal IDE device on the ide 0 and 1 channels along with a RAID 
device on the RAID controller, then yes.  If you mean a normal IDE partition 
along with a RAID partition on the RAID controller, then no.  Once you put a 
harddrive on the RAID channel, for striping, both hard drives have to be the 
same size and you must create identical striped partitions.  As far as I 
know, you can't split normal IDE partitions with striped partitions on a 
single channel.

I am pretty sure that you can use one RAID channel, say ide 2 as a RAID device 
while the other channel, ide 3 is a normal ide channel though.  Just don't 
stripe the sdc and sdd volumes and don't try to access them through the scsi 
device files.

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RE: [newbie] I'm goin' mobile....

2003-10-21 Thread Grant

> On Tuesday 21 October 2003 01:51 pm, Grant wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 21 October 2003 12:54 pm, Grant wrote:
> > > > I'll be traveling off and on for the foreseable future, and I
> > >
> > > don't want to
> > >
> > > > bring a laptop.  What I'd like is some kind of a setup that
> allows me
> > > > to connect to a remote machine that I've set up and use my apps
> > >
> > > through there
> > >
> > > > from Internet cafes.  What do you guys think might work?
> > > >
> > > > Also, I'm a little paranoid of keystroke loggers in Internet
> > >
> > > cafes.  I was
> > >
> > > > wondering if anyone has created any kind of an application to solve
> > > > that problem.  Maybe an on-screen representation of a keyboard that
> > >
> > > allows you
> > >
> > > > to save your "click-strokes" to the clipboard?
> > > >
> > > > - Grant
> > >
> > > Okay, here's what I do.  The machine I am connecting to, which is
> > > in my home
> > > office, is set behind a firewall that is forwarding port 22 for ssh
> > > connections.  Then I run vncserver with fluxbox as the window
> manager.  I
> > > then carry in my briefcase, a mini cd that has a windows ssh
> > > client and the
> > > windows and linux vncviewer.  I use PuTTy for the windows ssh
> > > client.  It is
> > > free and very easy to use.
> > >
> > > From whatever computer I am at that has Internet access (Windows
> > > or Linux), I
> > > can set up an ssh session that forwards the vnc port to the local
> > > machine,
> > > and then I use the vncviewer through the ssh tunnel to access
> my desktop.
> > >
> > > In fact, this is how I am typing this email right now.  When the
> > > rules say you
> > > cannot access personal e-mail at work, us Linux users have an
> > > advantage ;-)
> > > --
> > > /g
> >
> > Nice!  That sounds very slick, but how is the lag time?  What kind of
> > connection are you using on the client computer?  Nothing has to be
> > installed for you on the client computer?
> >
> > - Grant
>
> The machine I am accessing is on a cable modem at home  it is a
> 128Kb/s up and
> 3000Kb/s down setup.  I am accessing it from a machine that has
> 512/512Kb/s.
> The performance seems acceptable to me, although there is some lag.
>
> I also use this on several other machines on cable modem and it
> seems just as
> good.  It is more responsive at certain times of the day, but I
> think this
> has more to do with overall Internet traffic.  Also the screen
> resolution you
> use will have an impact on performance.  800x600 will refresh much faster
> than 1152x864 (which is what I am using).
>
> Although I wouldn't recommend it for everyday use, I have done
> this over a
> dial-up connection in an emergency and was able to perform the task I was
> trying to accomplish.
>
> I run both PuTTY and vncviewer right off of the CD, and I suppose
> you could
> easily use a usb thumb drive too.  Nothing is installed on the client
> computer, although PuTTy makes a few entries in the Windows
> registry which
> are documented on the PuTTy site and can be easily removed.  In
> fact I think
> they talk about setting up a batch file to do this, although I
> have not taken
> the time to investigate it.  I just use regedit to quickly remove the
> settings.
>
>
> --
> /g

That sounds pretty good.  Thanks for the info.  I'm going to look into this
more.

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Re: [newbie] MSN Messenger + Linux clients

2003-10-21 Thread Heather/Femme
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:34:15 +0100
Michael Lothian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Either in hte console put a & after the comand ie
> 
> amsn &
> 
> Or press alt + F2 and type in amsn in the window that appears
> 
> Mike
> 


nohup amsn & 

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Re: [newbie] MSN Messenger + Linux clients

2003-10-21 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 21 Oct 2003 10:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Why is it that after I start aMSN via the terminal the terminal session
> that I used to start aMSN is dead.  Meaning, I can't do anything with
> that terminal session unless I close out aMSN.
>
> Is there a way to launch aMSN through the GUI so I don't have a term
> window just sitting around useless?
>

You are running it in foreground.
Start it with ./amsn &
it will then run in background.

You could also use menudrake to create a menu entry.
Use /path/to/directory/amsn as the command to start it.

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Re: [newbie] MSN Messenger + Linux clients

2003-10-21 Thread Michael Lothian
Either in hte console put a & after the comand ie

amsn &

Or press alt + F2 and type in amsn in the window that appears

Mike

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why is it that after I start aMSN via the terminal the terminal session
that I used to start aMSN is dead.  Meaning, I can't do anything with
that terminal session unless I close out aMSN.
Is there a way to launch aMSN through the GUI so I don't have a term
window just sitting around useless?
-A

On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 10:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

I downloaded aMSN and got it working okay.  It crashed about 30
seconds after I logged in for the first time.  Had to kill -9
the process.  We'll see how it goes.
It was easy to install..

   



 



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Re: [newbie] MSN Messenger + Linux clients

2003-10-21 Thread Paul M. Bucalo
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 05:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] graced me 
with:
> Why is it that after I start aMSN via the terminal the terminal
> session that I used to start aMSN is dead.  Meaning, I can't do
> anything with that terminal session unless I close out aMSN.
>
> Is there a way to launch aMSN through the GUI so I don't have a
> term window just sitting around useless?
>
> -A

$  &

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Re: [newbie] MSN Messenger + Linux clients

2003-10-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why is it that after I start aMSN via the terminal the terminal session
that I used to start aMSN is dead.  Meaning, I can't do anything with
that terminal session unless I close out aMSN.

Is there a way to launch aMSN through the GUI so I don't have a term
window just sitting around useless?

-A

On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 10:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I downloaded aMSN and got it working okay.  It crashed about 30
> seconds after I logged in for the first time.  Had to kill -9
> the process.  We'll see how it goes.
> 
> It was easy to install..
> 


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Re: [newbie] Scanner (SCSI) question

2003-10-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 20 Oct 2003 11:15 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Monday 20 October 2003 04:10 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Youknow what I'm going to say now, don't you?
> >
> > Anne
>
> Do I feel a Twiki moment coming on??? 
>
> Seriously though, where should it go? I know its SCSI,
> hardware...but where would you suggest?
>
> Thx!

I'd see it as HardwareIssues, because it's a configuration problem, 
not a compatibility report, so how about
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/SCSI ?

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Re: [newbie] Soyo KT400 Motherboard

2003-10-21 Thread Heather/Femme
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:32:14 -0400
Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> First of all, my own experience was that I received a kernel panic
> every time I tried to load Mandrake Linux with the RAID controller
> enabled in the BIOS, either as standard IDE or RAID.  I did not have
> any drives connected to the controller and connecting anything was
> useless since I would get the kernel panic when trying to boot with it
> enabled in any capacity.

perhaps a dumb question...

can yo have devices on both the RAID connectors & the regular IDE ones?

or must I use one or the other?

hm

Guess I should check My manual but I dunno if the answers there
either... I don't remember seeing it..

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[newbie] Re: Multi distributions

2003-10-21 Thread Y Hu
Hi,

I have two questions:

1. I have a linux box which has already installed Red
Hat distribution. I am going to install the Mandrake
9.1 on that box as well, should I separate the
partition for Red Hat and Mandrake respectively or can
I use the same partition?

2. I defined an alias: alias ls="ls --color=n" in
.bash_profile, but it does not work in Mandrake 9.1
(it works in command line). What am I missing?

Thank you.

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Re: [newbie] New Users ?

2003-10-21 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 21 Oct 2003 7:22 pm, Ken Walker wrote:
> I want to set up a series of folders such as Cad1, Cad2 and Cad3 that will
> be set up as shares in samba. These will be used for three classes. And
> there's an average of 30 students per class. Access to the folders will be
> done by mapping them onto win98/2k clients.
>
> Can I just create Linux user accounts without creating home and personal
> groups. The remote users will never know about home directories or such.
>
> In User Manager that comes with LM. It gives the options, all set by
> default to create home directory, personal group and copy skeleton.
>
> I can't see any point in creating hundreds of home's when they will never
> be used !
>
> Ken :o)
>
>
If you use webmin to add your users, then you can specify add user with no 
home directory.
https://localhost:1/useradmin/edit_user.cgi

You can also configure webmin to add a samba user automatically when a linux 
user is added.
https://localhost:1/samba/edit_sync.cgi


Then in your samba shares you can restrict access to them by group.
Again webmin makes this easy to configure


(If you have not discovered webmin  yet just install the webmin rpm and
point your browser at https://localhost:1 )


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[newbie] Kernel Compiling in 9.2

2003-10-21 Thread Sharrea Day
Hi all

I need to build my own kernel so that I can use my satellite card for 
internet connection.  The driver is compiled with gcc-2.96 and requires the 
kernel to be compiled with the same.  No problem in 9.1 but having just 
installed 9.2, the "make dep" gives an error:

/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-10mdk/scripts/mkdep -D__KERNEL__ 
-I/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-10mdk/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes 
-Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686  -nostdinc -iwithprefix include -- 
acpi.c acpitable.c acpitable.h acpi_wakeup.S apic.c apm.c bluesmoke.c 
cpuid.c dmi_scan.c e820.c elanfreq.c entry.S gx-suspmod.c head.S 
i386_ksyms.c i387.c i8259.c init_task.c io_apic.c ioport.c irq.c ldt.c 
longhaul.c longrun.c mca.c microcode.c mpparse.c msr.c mtrr.c nmi.c 
p4-clockmod.c pci-dma.c pci-i386.c pci-i386.h pci-irq.c pci-pc.c 
pci-visws.c powernow-k6.c powernow-k7.c powernow-k7.h process.c ptrace.c 
semaphore.c setup.c signal.c smpboot.c smp.c speedstep-centrino.c 
speedstep-ich.c sys_i386.c time.c trampoline.S traps.c visws_apic.c vm86.c 
> .depend
make[2]: *** [fastdep] Error 139
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-10mdk/arch/i386/kernel'
make[1]: *** [_sfdep_arch/i386/kernel] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-10mdk'
make: *** [dep-files] Error 2

Does anyone know how to get past this error?  I'm using the config from the 
current Mandrake kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.

Any help much appreciated.

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Re: [newbie] I'm goin' mobile....

2003-10-21 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 01:47 pm, Frank Bax wrote:
> At 01:20 PM 10/21/03, Greg Meyer wrote:
> >On Tuesday 21 October 2003 12:54 pm, Grant wrote:
> > > I'll be traveling off and on for the foreseable future, and I don't
> > > want to bring a laptop.  What I'd like is some kind of a setup that
> > > allows me to connect to a remote machine that I've set up and use my
> > > apps through there from Internet cafes.  What do you guys think might
> > > work?
> > >
> > > Also, I'm a little paranoid of keystroke loggers in Internet cafes.  I
> > > was wondering if anyone has created any kind of an application to solve
> > > that problem.  Maybe an on-screen representation of a keyboard that
> > > allows you to save your "click-strokes" to the clipboard?
> > >
> > > - Grant
> >
> >Okay, here's what I do.  The machine I am connecting to, which is in my
> > home office, is set behind a firewall that is forwarding port 22 for ssh
> > connections.  Then I run vncserver with fluxbox as the window manager.  I
> > then carry in my briefcase, a mini cd that has a windows ssh client and
> > the windows and linux vncviewer.  I use PuTTy for the windows ssh client.
> >  It is free and very easy to use.
> >
> > From whatever computer I am at that has Internet access (Windows or
> > Linux), I
> >can set up an ssh session that forwards the vnc port to the local machine,
> >and then I use the vncviewer through the ssh tunnel to access my desktop.
> >
> >In fact, this is how I am typing this email right now.  When the rules say
> >you
> >cannot access personal e-mail at work, us Linux users have an advantage
> > ;-)
>
> Could you provide specifics about command options you use to establish this
> connection?

You just have to forward port 5901 through the ssh tunnel, which can be done 
in the config gui of PuTTy or on the command line of linux.   I'll try to do 
some detailed instrucitons later, but if you cannot wait this is well 
documented on the web.  A quick google on vnc+ssh should give you some good 
results.
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Re: [newbie] I'm goin' mobile....

2003-10-21 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 01:51 pm, Grant wrote:
> > On Tuesday 21 October 2003 12:54 pm, Grant wrote:
> > > I'll be traveling off and on for the foreseable future, and I
> >
> > don't want to
> >
> > > bring a laptop.  What I'd like is some kind of a setup that allows me
> > > to connect to a remote machine that I've set up and use my apps
> >
> > through there
> >
> > > from Internet cafes.  What do you guys think might work?
> > >
> > > Also, I'm a little paranoid of keystroke loggers in Internet
> >
> > cafes.  I was
> >
> > > wondering if anyone has created any kind of an application to solve
> > > that problem.  Maybe an on-screen representation of a keyboard that
> >
> > allows you
> >
> > > to save your "click-strokes" to the clipboard?
> > >
> > > - Grant
> >
> > Okay, here's what I do.  The machine I am connecting to, which is
> > in my home
> > office, is set behind a firewall that is forwarding port 22 for ssh
> > connections.  Then I run vncserver with fluxbox as the window manager.  I
> > then carry in my briefcase, a mini cd that has a windows ssh
> > client and the
> > windows and linux vncviewer.  I use PuTTy for the windows ssh
> > client.  It is
> > free and very easy to use.
> >
> > From whatever computer I am at that has Internet access (Windows
> > or Linux), I
> > can set up an ssh session that forwards the vnc port to the local
> > machine,
> > and then I use the vncviewer through the ssh tunnel to access my desktop.
> >
> > In fact, this is how I am typing this email right now.  When the
> > rules say you
> > cannot access personal e-mail at work, us Linux users have an
> > advantage ;-)
> > --
> > /g
>
> Nice!  That sounds very slick, but how is the lag time?  What kind of
> connection are you using on the client computer?  Nothing has to be
> installed for you on the client computer?
>
> - Grant

The machine I am accessing is on a cable modem at home  it is a 128Kb/s up and 
3000Kb/s down setup.  I am accessing it from a machine that has 512/512Kb/s.  
The performance seems acceptable to me, although there is some lag.  

I also use this on several other machines on cable modem and it seems just as 
good.  It is more responsive at certain times of the day, but I think this 
has more to do with overall Internet traffic.  Also the screen resolution you 
use will have an impact on performance.  800x600 will refresh much faster 
than 1152x864 (which is what I am using).

Although I wouldn't recommend it for everyday use, I have done this over a 
dial-up connection in an emergency and was able to perform the task I was 
trying to accomplish.

I run both PuTTY and vncviewer right off of the CD, and I suppose you could 
easily use a usb thumb drive too.  Nothing is installed on the client 
computer, although PuTTy makes a few entries in the Windows registry which 
are documented on the PuTTy site and can be easily removed.  In fact I think 
they talk about setting up a batch file to do this, although I have not taken 
the time to investigate it.  I just use regedit to quickly remove the 
settings.


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Re: [newbie] Soyo KT400 Motherboard

2003-10-21 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 09:29 am, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 October 2003 08:57 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
> > Bryan Phinney wrote:
> > >After spending an hour this weekend trying to get my Highpoint 372 RAID
> > >controller working under Mandrake 9.1, I finally figured it out and got
> > > it working.  If anyone else was having problems with this, send me an
> > > email and I can tell you how to get it going.
> >
> > Always a good idea to post the solution anyway as other will find it
> > using a search engine and solve their problems thereby.
>
> Yes, post it to the list, or better yet, add it to the twiki.  When you say
> you got it going, do you mean as a RAID cntroller or as a standard IDE
> controller.

As both, either or.  

First of all, my own experience was that I received a kernel panic every time 
I tried to load Mandrake Linux with the RAID controller enabled in the BIOS, 
either as standard IDE or RAID.  I did not have any drives connected to the 
controller and connecting anything was useless since I would get the kernel 
panic when trying to boot with it enabled in any capacity.

I needed to add ide=reverse to the lilo options in order to resolve the kernel 
panic.  Still not sure exactly why this is, I understood that the ide=reverse 
line was necessary if you wanted to boot from the ide 2 or 3 controllers but 
not if you simply wanted to use them as additional channels.  At any rate, 
adding ide=reverse allowed me to boot with the controller enabled in the 
BIOS.  I also thought that reversing ide on the option line would reverse 
drive lettering, ide 2 and 3 become ide 0 and 1 but on my system, that is not 
the case.  Linux drive lettering still shows hda/b for ide 0, hdc/d for ide 
1, hde/f for ide 2, etc.  Moving a drive from ide0 to ide2 necessitates 
remapping all the partitions.

Adding this option may seem very simple and I am thinking that I should have 
figured it out before, but I did not feel very pressed to do so, and based on 
my understanding of wanting to boot different devices, I honestly never 
thought that I needed to do that to simply use the additional channels for 
additional hard drives.  Also, I was sort of hesitant to try to manually 
mount partitions from the rescue cd and remap them, afraid I was going to 
screw it up and have to rebuild the system entirely again.  When I should be 
cautious, I usually am not and when I am, I usually shouldn't have been.

Once that was done, I moved two harddrives over to the new controller and 
loaded the Mandrake CD in rescue mode, manually mounted the root drive on 
what used to be hda and then edited fstab to change hda and hdb partitions to 
hde and hdf where they are now located.  I also edited my lilo.conf file to 
actually point to the new drive lettering on the new channel.  I do not think 
that I had to boot from the RAID controller though, the SOYO allows you to 
specify the primary boot device, either RAID or HDD-0,1,2,3 in the BIOS, so 
you could still boot from the primary IDE controllers if you wanted to.  I 
did switch mine to boot from RAID as primary device in the BIOS.  I restarted 
and voila, the system came right back up.

So, now I had the RAID controller functioning as a normal IDE device.  I then 
downloaded the HPT 372 1.31 opensource drivers in tarball format from 
Highpoint Technologies web site and compiled them for my kernel using kernel 
sources.  You get a loadable module.  I run insmod on the modular driver and 
now I have two new additional devices, SDA and SDB, scsi emulated disk drives 
on the RAID controller.  I threw on a couple of real old hard drives and 
built a striped volume just to test it, but I have removed it and won't 
stripe the other ones because I don't need RAID right now, and I have data on 
the drives already.  Only thing left is to add the loadable module to kernel 
modules under ide/raid and insert a line to automatically load it at startup.

The only limitation that I can currently see is that you must have a root 
volume on a non-RAID drive or else you need to recompile the kernel to build 
HPT372 into the kernel itself for booting.  Since I would probably only want 
to use RAID for critical data like home directories and /var, /usr and the 
like, I don't see much of a point in messing around with trying to boot from 
a striped volume.

To boot with RAID, simply build the HPT372 driver as a static driver and 
rebuild the kernel to incorporate support for it into the kernel.  Now create 
a lilo entry for the new kernel and boot from it, the driver should be loaded 
at boot and create the devices so that you can run RAID at start.  The /boot 
sector still has to be on an ide device since the kernel has to load from a 
non-RAID device but that can a very small partition on a hard drive located 
on the ide channel.  If you have enough money to buy multiple hard drives for 
striping, you probably have a few extras lying around for that use.

Gee, maybe my wife has a

RE: [newbie] New Users ?

2003-10-21 Thread Ken Walker

I want to set up a series of folders such as Cad1, Cad2 and Cad3 that will
be set up as shares in samba. These will be used for three classes. And
there's an average of 30 students per class. Access to the folders will be
done by mapping them onto win98/2k clients.

Can I just create Linux user accounts without creating home and personal
groups. The remote users will never know about home directories or such.

In User Manager that comes with LM. It gives the options, all set by default
to create home directory, personal group and copy skeleton.

I can't see any point in creating hundreds of home's when they will never be
used !

Ken :o)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Sexton
Sent: 21 October 2003 7:01:pm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] New Users ?


Ken could you explain more in detail what you want.

David 
> 
> From: Ken Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/21 Tue PM 01:45:35 EDT
> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
>   "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [newbie] New Users ?
> 
> When I create new user for access to pre-defined samba shared folders,
with
> an associated password in smbpasswd. Do I have to create a home directory
> and a private group if they will never ever be near the server ?
> 
> 
> Ken
> 
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Re: [newbie] cool toy

2003-10-21 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:46:59 -0700 (PDT)
Tango Echo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks Ed!  I've actually been needing this, but
> haven't had a chance to look...
> 
> --- ed tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just used jigl.pl to make thumbnails for a page I
> > was doing, and never
> > having played with it before, I was pleased as
> > punch, and thought that
> > anyone else wanting an automated way to create a web
> > page with
> > click-able thumbnails might like to know about. 
> > 
> > "xome.net/projects/jigl/"
> >  
> > requires perl, imagemagick, jhead.
> 
> 
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Flash from the late response team.

Take a look at bins.  I think it's in contrib, but installs well
from author's site too.

It gives you 3 resolutions of each photo.  Makes a super album
almost automagically.

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Re: [newbie]Trouble playing DvD's in 9.2

2003-10-21 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 02:02 pm, Justin Ricks wrote:
> I just recently upgraded to 9.2 from 9.1 and for the most part everything
> worked fine the one thing that doesn't seem to is playing DVD's.  I use
> mplayer as my movie play and when I try to play a DvD the screen is garbled
> and it runs slow.  But the thing is when I had 9.1 installed I was able to
> play DVD's without any problems.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this or give me any advice on the problem.
> Thanks.
>
>
> Your faithful linux user:
> Justin Ricks
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

First thing I'd check is to see if DMA is turned on for your DVD drive. Use 
hdparm for this (you are using IDE, right?):

as root/su:

hdparm /dev/hdb (or c or d - whatever your drive is)

If its turned on (1) then you'll have to look elsewhere. If its not (0), then 
you can turn it on by editing /etc/sysconfig/harddisks. 

cd /etc/sysconfig

cp harddisks harddiskhdx (where x is whatever your drive is)

then, edit that file, going to the line that says:

# USE_DMA=1

and removing the "#". Save it, and you should be good to go. I'm not sure if 
you have to reboot for the change to be reflected though. Try it and see.

HTHs! :-)

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RE: [newbie] I'm goin' mobile....

2003-10-21 Thread Grant

> > I'll be traveling off and on for the foreseable future, and I
> don't want to
> > bring a laptop.  What I'd like is some kind of a setup that allows me to
> > connect to a remote machine that I've set up and use my apps
> through there
> > from Internet cafes.  What do you guys think might work?
>
> vnc.
>
> urpmi tightvnc-server
>
> There's a version of vnc viewer for windows.

I've never actually used VNC.  How is the lag time?

>
> >
> > Also, I'm a little paranoid of keystroke loggers in Internet
> cafes.  I was
> > wondering if anyone has created any kind of an application to solve that
> > problem.  Maybe an on-screen representation of a keyboard that
> allows you to
> > save your "click-strokes" to the clipboard?
>
> character map.  (usually a default part of windows boxen in the
> icafe's i've been to)

Character map, I hadn't thought of that.  Good idea.

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Re: [newbie] I'm goin' mobile....

2003-10-21 Thread David Sexton
Ok this is what I have done a few times I have a computer at home with mandrake 9.1 
and vnc server. Ssh gets forwarded from my computer to my  router  and out to the net.
I then take my laptop with me and I can access the computer from home from any where 
in the world.  My laptop has Mandrake 9.1 and vnc client on it. At this point I just 
ssh in to the box at home and start vnc by typing vnclient on my laptop from the 
command prompt. But this kind of defeats the fact you don't want to take your laptop 
with you.  I don't know how it works with windows so can't tell you about that. 

Sorry I am not much help
David
> 
> From: Frank Bax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/21 Tue PM 01:47:36 EDT
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] I'm goin' mobile
> 
> At 01:20 PM 10/21/03, Greg Meyer wrote:
> 
> >On Tuesday 21 October 2003 12:54 pm, Grant wrote:
> > > I'll be traveling off and on for the foreseable future, and I don't want to
> > > bring a laptop.  What I'd like is some kind of a setup that allows me to
> > > connect to a remote machine that I've set up and use my apps through there
> > > from Internet cafes.  What do you guys think might work?
> > >
> > > Also, I'm a little paranoid of keystroke loggers in Internet cafes.  I was
> > > wondering if anyone has created any kind of an application to solve that
> > > problem.  Maybe an on-screen representation of a keyboard that allows you
> > > to save your "click-strokes" to the clipboard?
> > >
> > > - Grant
> >
> >Okay, here's what I do.  The machine I am connecting to, which is in my home
> >office, is set behind a firewall that is forwarding port 22 for ssh
> >connections.  Then I run vncserver with fluxbox as the window manager.  I
> >then carry in my briefcase, a mini cd that has a windows ssh client and the
> >windows and linux vncviewer.  I use PuTTy for the windows ssh client.  It is
> >free and very easy to use.
> >
> > From whatever computer I am at that has Internet access (Windows or 
> > Linux), I
> >can set up an ssh session that forwards the vnc port to the local machine,
> >and then I use the vncviewer through the ssh tunnel to access my desktop.
> >
> >In fact, this is how I am typing this email right now.  When the rules say 
> >you
> >cannot access personal e-mail at work, us Linux users have an advantage ;-)
> 
> 
> Could you provide specifics about command options you use to establish this 
> connection? 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] I'm goin' mobile....

2003-10-21 Thread Jerry Barton
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:54:24 -0700
"Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'll be traveling off and on for the foreseable future, and I don't want to
> bring a laptop.  What I'd like is some kind of a setup that allows me to
> connect to a remote machine that I've set up and use my apps through there
> from Internet cafes.  What do you guys think might work?

vnc.  

urpmi tightvnc-server

There's a version of vnc viewer for windows.

> 
> Also, I'm a little paranoid of keystroke loggers in Internet cafes.  I was
> wondering if anyone has created any kind of an application to solve that
> problem.  Maybe an on-screen representation of a keyboard that allows you to
> save your "click-strokes" to the clipboard?

character map.  (usually a default part of windows boxen in the icafe's i've been to)

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[newbie]Trouble playing DvD's in 9.2

2003-10-21 Thread Justin Ricks
I just recently upgraded to 9.2 from 9.1 and for the most part everything 
worked fine the one thing that doesn't seem to is playing DVD's.  I use 
mplayer as my movie play and when I try to play a DvD the screen is garbled 
and it runs slow.  But the thing is when I had 9.1 installed I was able to 
play DVD's without any problems.

Has anyone else experienced this or give me any advice on the problem.  
Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] New Users ?

2003-10-21 Thread David Sexton
Ken could you explain more in detail what you want.

David 
> 
> From: Ken Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/21 Tue PM 01:45:35 EDT
> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
>   "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [newbie] New Users ?
> 
> When I create new user for access to pre-defined samba shared folders, with
> an associated password in smbpasswd. Do I have to create a home directory
> and a private group if they will never ever be near the server ?
> 
> 
> Ken
> 
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Re: [newbie] I'm goin' mobile....

2003-10-21 Thread Frank Bax
At 01:20 PM 10/21/03, Greg Meyer wrote:

On Tuesday 21 October 2003 12:54 pm, Grant wrote:
> I'll be traveling off and on for the foreseable future, and I don't want to
> bring a laptop.  What I'd like is some kind of a setup that allows me to
> connect to a remote machine that I've set up and use my apps through there
> from Internet cafes.  What do you guys think might work?
>
> Also, I'm a little paranoid of keystroke loggers in Internet cafes.  I was
> wondering if anyone has created any kind of an application to solve that
> problem.  Maybe an on-screen representation of a keyboard that allows you
> to save your "click-strokes" to the clipboard?
>
> - Grant
Okay, here's what I do.  The machine I am connecting to, which is in my home
office, is set behind a firewall that is forwarding port 22 for ssh
connections.  Then I run vncserver with fluxbox as the window manager.  I
then carry in my briefcase, a mini cd that has a windows ssh client and the
windows and linux vncviewer.  I use PuTTy for the windows ssh client.  It is
free and very easy to use.
From whatever computer I am at that has Internet access (Windows or 
Linux), I
can set up an ssh session that forwards the vnc port to the local machine,
and then I use the vncviewer through the ssh tunnel to access my desktop.

In fact, this is how I am typing this email right now.  When the rules say 
you
cannot access personal e-mail at work, us Linux users have an advantage ;-)


Could you provide specifics about command options you use to establish this 
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[newbie] New Users ?

2003-10-21 Thread Ken Walker
When I create new user for access to pre-defined samba shared folders, with
an associated password in smbpasswd. Do I have to create a home directory
and a private group if they will never ever be near the server ?


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RE: [newbie] I'm goin' mobile....

2003-10-21 Thread Grant

> On Tuesday 21 October 2003 12:54 pm, Grant wrote:
> > I'll be traveling off and on for the foreseable future, and I
> don't want to
> > bring a laptop.  What I'd like is some kind of a setup that allows me to
> > connect to a remote machine that I've set up and use my apps
> through there
> > from Internet cafes.  What do you guys think might work?
> >
> > Also, I'm a little paranoid of keystroke loggers in Internet
> cafes.  I was
> > wondering if anyone has created any kind of an application to solve that
> > problem.  Maybe an on-screen representation of a keyboard that
> allows you
> > to save your "click-strokes" to the clipboard?
> >
> > - Grant
>
> Okay, here's what I do.  The machine I am connecting to, which is
> in my home
> office, is set behind a firewall that is forwarding port 22 for ssh
> connections.  Then I run vncserver with fluxbox as the window manager.  I
> then carry in my briefcase, a mini cd that has a windows ssh
> client and the
> windows and linux vncviewer.  I use PuTTy for the windows ssh
> client.  It is
> free and very easy to use.
>
> From whatever computer I am at that has Internet access (Windows
> or Linux), I
> can set up an ssh session that forwards the vnc port to the local
> machine,
> and then I use the vncviewer through the ssh tunnel to access my desktop.
>
> In fact, this is how I am typing this email right now.  When the
> rules say you
> cannot access personal e-mail at work, us Linux users have an
> advantage ;-)
> --
> /g

Nice!  That sounds very slick, but how is the lag time?  What kind of
connection are you using on the client computer?  Nothing has to be
installed for you on the client computer?

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Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte

2003-10-21 Thread stormjumper
hi Thomas,

i can't help with your problem, but i can tell you that 9.1 installs and
runs pretty ok on a 64mb ram machine, as long as you dun try to run KDE (and
prolly Gnome, but i've never tried.)

since it crashes after installing packages, you may wanna try install the
absolute minimal number of packages to get a working system. (including
urpmi of course, if it isn't defaulted)

once you get that, you can install anything you wan, since there is now a
swap partition. but try to keep with memory efficient apps.

since you've only 64mb ram, try to install with more swap. the usual advice
is 1.5x physical ram or 2x, but maybe in your case you can try 192mb or
256mb swap. it doesn't improve performance, but at least your system has a
lower chance of crashing due to running out of memory.
- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Rudolfsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 22:43
Subject: Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte


>
> I tried with my pentium 100 with no sucess(both text and low resolution
> install). First with 40Mb Ram and then with 64Mb. Same error both times I
> think. Cant remember now but I used
> Alt+F2, F3 or F4 or Alt+"som number" then I saw some error messages.
> It crashes at the end of the installation of packages.
>
> I cant help but I'm interested if there is a solution because I would like
> to use it sometimes.
>
> \Thomas
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Raffaele Belardi wrote:
>
> > I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD.
> > I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the
> > basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never
> > finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process.
> >
> > I am not sure it is a bug with the installer or a disk problem (I will
> > try a check next time). In the meantime, I would like to know if anybody
> > has ever tried an installation on such a machine with a recent
distribution.
> >
> > I would like to stick with 9.1, I know I could try with an older kernel
> > like 2.2 but the installation program and the supporting scripts look
> > much easier to use in recent distributions. I am not planning to use X
> > or network, I only need mpg123, mp3info and a couple of shell scripts.
> >
> > raffaele
> >
> >
> >
>
>






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Re: [newbie] I'm goin' mobile....

2003-10-21 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 12:54 pm, Grant wrote:
> I'll be traveling off and on for the foreseable future, and I don't want to
> bring a laptop.  What I'd like is some kind of a setup that allows me to
> connect to a remote machine that I've set up and use my apps through there
> from Internet cafes.  What do you guys think might work?
>
> Also, I'm a little paranoid of keystroke loggers in Internet cafes.  I was
> wondering if anyone has created any kind of an application to solve that
> problem.  Maybe an on-screen representation of a keyboard that allows you
> to save your "click-strokes" to the clipboard?
>
> - Grant

Okay, here's what I do.  The machine I am connecting to, which is in my home 
office, is set behind a firewall that is forwarding port 22 for ssh 
connections.  Then I run vncserver with fluxbox as the window manager.  I 
then carry in my briefcase, a mini cd that has a windows ssh client and the 
windows and linux vncviewer.  I use PuTTy for the windows ssh client.  It is 
free and very easy to use.

>From whatever computer I am at that has Internet access (Windows or Linux), I 
can set up an ssh session that forwards the vnc port to the local machine, 
and then I use the vncviewer through the ssh tunnel to access my desktop.

In fact, this is how I am typing this email right now.  When the rules say you 
cannot access personal e-mail at work, us Linux users have an advantage ;-)
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[newbie] EU Patents - letters needed now

2003-10-21 Thread mooney
Signatories of the petition will have received notification - others please, 
please check out http://www.ffii.org.uk/council.html

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Re: [newbie] Soyo KT400 Motherboard

2003-10-21 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 09:29 am, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 October 2003 08:57 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
> > Bryan Phinney wrote:
> > >After spending an hour this weekend trying to get my Highpoint 372 RAID
> > >controller working under Mandrake 9.1, I finally figured it out and got
> > > it working.  If anyone else was having problems with this, send me an
> > > email and I can tell you how to get it going.
> >
> > Always a good idea to post the solution anyway as other will find it
> > using a search engine and solve their problems thereby.
>
> Yes, post it to the list, or better yet, add it to the twiki.  When you say
> you got it going, do you mean as a RAID cntroller or as a standard IDE
> controller.

As both, either or.  

First of all, my own experience was that I received a kernel panic every time 
I tried to load Mandrake Linux with the RAID controller enabled in the BIOS, 
either as standard IDE or RAID.  I did not have any drives connected to the 
controller and connecting anything was useless since I would get the kernel 
panic when trying to boot with it enabled in any capacity.

I needed to add ide=reverse to the lilo options in order to resolve the kernel 
panic.  Still not sure exactly why this is, I understood that the ide=reverse 
line was necessary if you wanted to boot from the ide 2 or 3 controllers but 
not if you simply wanted to use them as additional channels.  At any rate, 
adding ide=reverse allowed me to boot with the controller enabled in the 
BIOS.  I also thought that reversing ide on the option line would reverse 
drive lettering, ide 2 and 3 become ide 0 and 1 but on my system, that is not 
the case.  Linux drive lettering still shows hda/b for ide 0, hdc/d for ide 
1, hde/f for ide 2, etc.  Moving a drive from ide0 to ide2 necessitates 
remapping all the partitions.

Adding this option may seem very simple and I am thinking that I should have 
figured it out before, but I did not feel very pressed to do so, and based on 
my understanding of wanting to boot different devices, I honestly never 
thought that I needed to do that to simply use the additional channels for 
additional hard drives.  Also, I was sort of hesitant to try to manually 
mount partitions from the rescue cd and remap them, afraid I was going to 
screw it up and have to rebuild the system entirely again.  When I should be 
cautious, I usually am not and when I am, I usually shouldn't have been.

Once that was done, I moved two harddrives over to the new controller and 
loaded the Mandrake CD in rescue mode, manually mounted the root drive on 
what used to be hda and then edited fstab to change hda and hdb partitions to 
hde and hdf where they are now located.  I also edited my lilo.conf file to 
actually point to the new drive lettering on the new channel.  I do not think 
that I had to boot from the RAID controller though, the SOYO allows you to 
specify the primary boot device, either RAID or HDD-0,1,2,3 in the BIOS, so 
you could still boot from the primary IDE controllers if you wanted to.  I 
did switch mine to boot from RAID as primary device in the BIOS.  I restarted 
and voila, the system came right back up.

So, now I had the RAID controller functioning as a normal IDE device.  I then 
downloaded the HPT 372 1.31 opensource drivers in tarball format from 
Highpoint Technologies web site and compiled them for my kernel using kernel 
sources.  You get a loadable module.  I run insmod on the modular driver and 
now I have two new additional devices, SDA and SDB, scsi emulated disk drives 
on the RAID controller.  I threw on a couple of real old hard drives and 
built a striped volume just to test it, but I have removed it and won't 
stripe the other ones because I don't need RAID right now, and I have data on 
the drives already.  Only thing left is to add the loadable module to kernel 
modules under ide/raid and insert a line to automatically load it at startup.

The only limitation that I can currently see is that you must have a root 
volume on a non-RAID drive or else you need to recompile the kernel to build 
HPT372 into the kernel itself for booting.  Since I would probably only want 
to use RAID for critical data like home directories and /var, /usr and the 
like, I don't see much of a point in messing around with trying to boot from 
a striped volume.

To boot with RAID, simply build the HPT372 driver as a static driver and 
rebuild the kernel to incorporate support for it into the kernel.  Now create 
a lilo entry for the new kernel and boot from it, the driver should be loaded 
at boot and create the devices so that you can run RAID at start.  The /boot 
sector still has to be on an ide device since the kernel has to load from a 
non-RAID device but that can a very small partition on a hard drive located 
on the ide channel.  If you have enough money to buy multiple hard drives for 
striping, you probably have a few extras lying around for that use.

Gee, maybe my wife has a

[newbie] FUCK YOUR MONEY AND MOTHER

2003-10-21 Thread Csongrádi József
Kedves mooney,

Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 1:13:34 PM, you wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 27 Sep 2003 at 7:24, ed tharp wrote:


>> 
>> the M$ philanthropy I get a kick from is the educational discounts given
>> to 'impoverished schools'.
>> Let's see, we have this stuff that is worth (nothing) 145.00 retail,
>> (cost Bill Gates and co $.48 to produce) we are going to almost give it
>> away for (ahhh about) 50.00 dollars a seat, and take the other 95.00 a
>> seat as a tax deduction/fine for illegal business practices/actions.
>> What a Saint. 
>> 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And, coincidentally, locks them into one
OS/software setup, so they can only go one 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> place for upgrades, the kids only know one
system when they move on

[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Paul M




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Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte

2003-10-21 Thread Raffaele Belardi
Well, I tried because the intall.txt file on the 9.1 cd1 says 32Mbyte 
RAM is the minimum, I'm beginning to have doubts now!

Any hint on how to make it work with that little memory?

One thing I might try is to attach the drive to a bigger system, install 
 9.1 from there and then move the disk to the P100. That will require 
some /etc reconfiguring, but it should work. What do you think?

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 01:57 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote:

I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD.
I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the
basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never
finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process.
I am not sure it is a bug with the installer or a disk problem (I will
try a check next time). In the meantime, I would like to know if anybody
has ever tried an installation on such a machine with a recent
distribution.
I would like to stick with 9.1, I know I could try with an older kernel
like 2.2 but the installation program and the supporting scripts look
much easier to use in recent distributions. I am not planning to use X
or network, I only need mpg123, mp3info and a couple of shell scripts.
raffaele
I do not believe that 32 mb is enough to do an install with 9.1.  Minimum 
would be 64mb.  It may work on rare occasions, but not as a rule.  Sorry.



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Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte

2003-10-21 Thread Dennis Myers
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 01:57 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote:
> I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD.
> I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the
> basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never
> finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process.
>
> I am not sure it is a bug with the installer or a disk problem (I will
> try a check next time). In the meantime, I would like to know if anybody
> has ever tried an installation on such a machine with a recent
> distribution.
>
> I would like to stick with 9.1, I know I could try with an older kernel
> like 2.2 but the installation program and the supporting scripts look
> much easier to use in recent distributions. I am not planning to use X
> or network, I only need mpg123, mp3info and a couple of shell scripts.
>
> raffaele
I do not believe that 32 mb is enough to do an install with 9.1.  Minimum 
would be 64mb.  It may work on rare occasions, but not as a rule.  Sorry.
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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report

2003-10-21 Thread mooney
On 27 Sep 2003 at 7:24, ed tharp wrote:


> 
> the M$ philanthropy I get a kick from is the educational discounts given
> to 'impoverished schools'.
> Let's see, we have this stuff that is worth (nothing) 145.00 retail,
> (cost Bill Gates and co $.48 to produce) we are going to almost give it
> away for (ahhh about) 50.00 dollars a seat, and take the other 95.00 a
> seat as a tax deduction/fine for illegal business practices/actions.
> What a Saint. 
> 

And, coincidentally, locks them into one OS/software setup, so they can only go one 
place for upgrades, the kids only know one system when they move on

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[newbie] Re: Mandrake 9.2 Network install through web proxy

2003-10-21 Thread h . w . blackwell
Derek, 
 
I can 'see' the ftp site through my browser, but only after manually setting 
the proxy server name and port in the browsers options. As I don't have this 
option given to me during the initial phases of the network boot up 
installation, I can't appear to access the external ftp site. This is what 
happens in my browser when I don't set up the proxy server settings. I am 
hoping someone has had a similar problem and found a solution. 
 
Thanks for the speedy reply. 
 
Chewwit  
 

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Re: [newbie] Soyo KT400 Motherboard

2003-10-21 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 08:57 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Bryan Phinney wrote:
> >After spending an hour this weekend trying to get my Highpoint 372 RAID
> >controller working under Mandrake 9.1, I finally figured it out and got it
> >working.  If anyone else was having problems with this, send me an email
> > and I can tell you how to get it going.
>
> Always a good idea to post the solution anyway as other will find it
> using a search engine and solve their problems thereby.
>
Yes, post it to the list, or better yet, add it to the twiki.  When you say 
you got it going, do you mean as a RAID cntroller or as a standard IDE 
controller.
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Re: [newbie] multivolume tar

2003-10-21 Thread Raffaele Belardi
Yes you can :-)

$ tar cf archive.tar -L N directory_to_tar/

N is the archive length in Kbytes. tar writes the first archive file, 
then prompts you to change volume. You rename archive.tar to 
archive1.tar and continue.

I agree that you cannot compress at the same time as you split with tar.

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Fajar Priyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all,
Is it possible to create a multivolume tar files with spesific size?
For example I want to tar the whole hda into many 650MB's files for
then 
burned into CDs.
I notice there's the -M switch, but I can't find the option to specify
the 
size.

Thanks.
- -- 
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No, you can't do this.  Multivolume switches in Tar are for multiple
*physical" volumes, not multiple volumes on disk.  For this you should be
using Rar for linux.  Download the rpm for your version of MDK from
Vincent Danen's site, rpmhelp.net.  Rar will allow you to create multiple
volumes of specific sizes (whatever size you want) AND also allows you to
attach recovery data so that you can recover a damaged volume if one of
them gets damaged after you burn everything to cd.  Or if something
happens to your drive and one or two volumes get whacked.  Tar can't do
this, and it also cannot compress it's own archives without help from the
zip command.  Rar does, and it's compression is better than either zip or
bzip2.  It also does better than just about any other compressor on
multimedia files, like sound or video.
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Re: [newbie] multivolume tar (cancelled)

2003-10-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
--- Fajar Priyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On Tuesday 21 October 2003 03:43 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Is it possible to create a multivolume tar files with spesific size?
> > For example I want to tar the whole hda into many 650MB's files for
> then
> > burned into CDs.
> > I notice there's the -M switch, but I can't find the option to
> specify the
> > size.
> >
> > Thanks.
> 
> Sorry guys,
> My bad for asking without checking the archives first. It's been
> discussed 
> before.
> 


I don't know which messages you read.  But if you read mine you will know
that it is a mistake to burn one big file to CD; you should break up the
650 megs into 25 or more volumes with recovery capability built in.  I
wrote a message describing how to do this.

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Re: [newbie] multivolume tar

2003-10-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
--- Fajar Priyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Is it possible to create a multivolume tar files with spesific size?
> For example I want to tar the whole hda into many 650MB's files for
> then 
> burned into CDs.
> I notice there's the -M switch, but I can't find the option to specify
> the 
> size.
> 
> Thanks.
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No, you can't do this.  Multivolume switches in Tar are for multiple
*physical" volumes, not multiple volumes on disk.  For this you should be
using Rar for linux.  Download the rpm for your version of MDK from
Vincent Danen's site, rpmhelp.net.  Rar will allow you to create multiple
volumes of specific sizes (whatever size you want) AND also allows you to
attach recovery data so that you can recover a damaged volume if one of
them gets damaged after you burn everything to cd.  Or if something
happens to your drive and one or two volumes get whacked.  Tar can't do
this, and it also cannot compress it's own archives without help from the
zip command.  Rar does, and it's compression is better than either zip or
bzip2.  It also does better than just about any other compressor on
multimedia files, like sound or video.

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Re: [newbie] Soyo KT400 Motherboard

2003-10-21 Thread John Richard Smith
Bryan Phinney wrote:

After spending an hour this weekend trying to get my Highpoint 372 RAID 
controller working under Mandrake 9.1, I finally figured it out and got it 
working.  If anyone else was having problems with this, send me an email and 
I can tell you how to get it going.

 

Always a good idea to post the solution anyway as other will find it 
using a search engine and solve their problems thereby.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2 Network install through web proxy

2003-10-21 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 21 Oct 2003 11:03 am, h w blackwell wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Am part of a V.large distrubuted university network which gives me 10Mps
> download speeds (yeah!) but no control over network settings... I want
> to do a fresh install of Mnadrake 9.2 off the uk mirror ftp server.
> Therefore last night I got the network boot floppy image, created a boot
> disk with it and got cracking. All appears to be going well, set up dchp
> with hostname & domain etc, ftp site and bang, hit that brick wall.. The
> error message is error: bad hostname. However checked it by typing
> hostname @ the command prompt of my current, networked mandrake 9.1
> install & it all matches up (I didn't think I'd got it wrong to start
> with.). My current theory, the install program cannot get to the ftp
> site because all web access is through a proxy with a unusual port
> number. My network also doesn't support pasv ftp. Now I know the
> relevant ports and address's, but cannot see how I can configure the
> installer to access the ftp site through the proxy server on the
> relevant port. Does anyone know how, or is this a feature in the
> installer that needs adding at a later date... And what about PASV, is
> this used by the downloader, or can I switch it off? Am I stuffed until
> the ISO images appear or is there hope? I'd much rather ftp, as I don't
> need half the programs on the iso download and would rather save the
> download time...
>
> Cheers
>
> Chewwit


If you can see the Mandrake mirror by typing ftp://blah..blah in the URL line 
of a browser, then it isn't going to stop the network install either.

More likely you are simply giving the wrong url.
I think you need to point it to either the /Mandrake directory, or the /base 
directory (Not quite sure which)

For example
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/base

or is it 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake

HTH

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[newbie] Soyo KT400 Motherboard

2003-10-21 Thread Bryan Phinney
After spending an hour this weekend trying to get my Highpoint 372 RAID 
controller working under Mandrake 9.1, I finally figured it out and got it 
working.  If anyone else was having problems with this, send me an email and 
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Re: [newbie] MSN Messenger + Linux clients

2003-10-21 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 20 Oct 2003 11:25 pm, David Sexton wrote:
> You could try amsn it works very well for me and looks alot like msn
> http://amsn.sourceforge.net/
>
> David
>
Hey.. thats rather nice. I am impressed with how simple it is to run. I've 
never seen anything use 'wish' before.

Thanks

derek


> > From: Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2003/10/20 Mon PM 03:47:49 EDT
> > To: newbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [newbie] MSN Messenger + Linux clients
> >
> >
> > Anne was asking recently about having trouble using her kopote IM client
> > with MSN.
> > Since Oct 15th Microsoft have changed the protocol for MSN which has
> > locked out 3rd party clients.
> >
> > I had read reports that Gaim 0.71 would still work with MSN, and the
> > latest version of the Jabber transport for MSN is also supposed to work
> > with MSN.
> >
> > However I could not get Gaim0.71 to log onto MSN, and Psi when using the
> > MSN Jabber transport would report "remote server error"
> >
> > I think I may have found the solution :-
> >  I discovered that if I logged onto MSN using the Microsoft IM client,
> > then afterwards I could log on with Gaim and Psi as well.
> >
> > No idea why, but it might help anyone having trouble.
> >
> > derek
> >
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[newbie] Mandrake 9.2 Network install through web proxy

2003-10-21 Thread h w blackwell
Hi Guys,

Am part of a V.large distrubuted university network which gives me 10Mps 
download speeds (yeah!) but no control over network settings... I want 
to do a fresh install of Mnadrake 9.2 off the uk mirror ftp server. 
Therefore last night I got the network boot floppy image, created a boot 
disk with it and got cracking. All appears to be going well, set up dchp 
with hostname & domain etc, ftp site and bang, hit that brick wall.. The 
error message is error: bad hostname. However checked it by typing 
hostname @ the command prompt of my current, networked mandrake 9.1 
install & it all matches up (I didn't think I'd got it wrong to start 
with.). My current theory, the install program cannot get to the ftp 
site because all web access is through a proxy with a unusual port 
number. My network also doesn't support pasv ftp. Now I know the 
relevant ports and address's, but cannot see how I can configure the 
installer to access the ftp site through the proxy server on the 
relevant port. Does anyone know how, or is this a feature in the 
installer that needs adding at a later date... And what about PASV, is 
this used by the downloader, or can I switch it off? Am I stuffed until 
the ISO images appear or is there hope? I'd much rather ftp, as I don't 
need half the programs on the iso download and would rather save the 
download time...

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Installing via tar.gz

2003-10-21 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 20 October 2003 09:36 am, Russ wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am attempting to install GnomeSword using a tar.gz. Here is my first
> snag.
>
> I uncompressed the tar.gz then I did a ./configure The entire results
> are pasted below but here is the end part:
>
> --
> checking for GtkHTML... checking for pkg-config... /usr//bin/pkg-config
> checking for gtkhtml-1.1... Package gtkhtml-1.1 was not found in the
> pkg-config
> search path.
> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtkhtml-1.1.pc'
> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> No package 'gtkhtml-1.1' found

configure is looking specifically for the file gtkhtml-1.1.pc

To check, do a locate gtkhtml-1.1.pc and see if it finds it in a directory 
other than /usr/lib/gtkhtml-1.1  If you don't find it, it could be that you 
need to have the devel version of gtkhtml installed rather than just the 
standard libraries.

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Re: [newbie] Changing keyboard layout within the CLI

2003-10-21 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 04:42, Adolfo A. Bello B. wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:11:22PM +0200, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > I did some pre-hunting;)
> >
> > There's a file "/etc/sysconfig/keyboard" that gets read by
> > "/etc/init.d/keytable" and sets the keytable.
> > This does need to be done in su/root status, though!
> >
> > So make  a bash script (which you link to a key event or give a very
> > short name that makes sense to you) that writes to
> > /etc/sysconfig/keyboard and then initializes with "service keyboard
> > restart".
> >
> > Good luck,
> > HarM
>
> HarM:
>
> After some hunting I came to "loadkeys". As a normal user, now I can easily
> switch the keyboard layout to spanish with "loadkeys es" and back to
> us-english with "loadkeys us".
>
> After some googling and rtfm-ing I don't know what to do to bind/link
> hotkeys to scripts or aliases in .bashrc.
>
> I would love to have something like ctrl-alt-u to switch to us-english and
> ctrl-alt-e to switch to spanish.
>
> Reading about inputrc I got sort of lost.
>
> Could you point me in the right direction to achieve this?
>
> What I want to do is to switch keyborad layount from within mutt.
>
> I feel we are pretty close to the solution.
>
> Saludos,
>
> Adolfo
I've never tried anything with /etc/inputrc so can't help you there.
There are tricks to bind specific commands to certain key events by editing 
the .Xmodmap file i.e. change an existing keycode.

Or add the alias to .bashrc or to /etc/bashrc for system wide usage.

You could also create commands yourself i.e. "us" or "es" in /usr/sbin/ that 
run the desired "loadkeys *s"

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] MDK9.1-OpenOffice1.1 Anti-alised Fonts

2003-10-21 Thread robin
70233,2610 wrote:
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 15:01, robin wrote:

Greg Meyer wrote:

On Sunday 19 October 2003 05:01 am, gikoreno wrote:



How can I fix this?



By using the mdk ones. :-)

The prblem is that the OpenOffice with Mandrake is compiled dynamically to use 
the system freetype and font rendering subsystem, while the OO.o packages are 
compiled with a different one statically linked at compilation time.  There 
is no way around this without rebuilding OO.o on your machine.  Of course, 
you could also upgrade to 9.2 which would give you OO.o 1.1.
I thought 9.2 only had 1.1RC4.  Were there any important fixes between 
that and the final release?

Sir Robin
1.1RC5 was renamed as 1.1.0 and released a couple of weeks ago. 
According to the OOo users and discuss lists which I monitor, there were
some fairly important fixes between RC4 and RC5, including improved
loading speed.
It does seem to load a bit quicker - it's still not fast, but I longer 
get up to make coffee whenever I open OO!

I'm using OO 1.1.0 on Linux and Windows very happily and am trying hard
to get my users to adopt it.  It seems faster and more stable than 1.0,
but it is quite different from M$ Office, so there's a learning curve. 
The great thing is that it is absolutely agnostic about operating
systems; docs or presentations created on Windows work just as well on
Linux and vice-versa. I hadn't noticed any problem with fonts on MDK but
then, I'm not into that stuff.

It's trivially easy to download 1.1.0 from OpenOffice.org and install it
in MDK, so it doesn't really matter what version comes with 9.2. You
just unzip it in /tmp and run ./install -net, and then run ./install as
every user.  It's a 70 MB download though They seem to have mirrors
almost everywhere.  If you're an academic you can get the Sun equivalent
StarOffice 7.0 for the cost of the media or as a free download. 
Woo, I didn't know SO was free to academics!  We have a staroffice 
directory on our local sunsite mirror, but last time I looked the most 
recent version was 5.1.
This
has some non-GPL extras like the Adabase database.  Others pay US$75.00,
I think.
BTW, cheapbytes is already shipping MDK 9.2 on CD-R for US$6.99.  They
also have OOo 1.1.0 for the same price, for the download averse. I know
this does you no good Robin.
It was a general question - I'm already using the OO 1.1.0 download.  I 
would, however, prefer a Mandrake-compiled RPM, especially since I plan 
to install 9.2 on a friend's computer fairly soon.  After I've burnt the 
 download CDs, I plan to make him a CD of extras: OpenOffice 1.1.0, 
Mozilla 1.5, Java, Flash, etc..

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Re: [newbie] multivolume tar (cancelled)

2003-10-21 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Tuesday 21 October 2003 03:43 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> Hi all,
> Is it possible to create a multivolume tar files with spesific size?
> For example I want to tar the whole hda into many 650MB's files for then
> burned into CDs.
> I notice there's the -M switch, but I can't find the option to specify the
> size.
>
> Thanks.

Sorry guys,
My bad for asking without checking the archives first. It's been discussed 
before.

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[newbie] multivolume tar

2003-10-21 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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Hi all,
Is it possible to create a multivolume tar files with spesific size?
For example I want to tar the whole hda into many 650MB's files for then 
burned into CDs.
I notice there's the -M switch, but I can't find the option to specify the 
size.

Thanks.
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[newbie] 9.2 and Evolution

2003-10-21 Thread Yoel P. Krigsman
Hello...

Last night, I formatted my hard drive and installed my new copy of MDK
9.2. 

I am wondering why my evolution kept not closing properly, I had to go
to Konsole, and do killall evolution to kill this window. When I re-open
that application, I get all of my mail back that I have done deleted
already. 

What can i do to remedy this situation? 

Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte

2003-10-21 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Tuesday 21 October 2003 01:57 pm, Raffaele Belardi wrote:
> I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD.
> I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the
> basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never
> finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process.
> raffaele

Hi Raffaele,
I installed mdk9.0 in P233 MMX, 64MB. Complete with X and stuffs.
It was a success, but the performance was very slow with X.

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[newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte

2003-10-21 Thread Raffaele Belardi
I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD. 
I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the 
basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never 
finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process.

I am not sure it is a bug with the installer or a disk problem (I will 
try a check next time). In the meantime, I would like to know if anybody 
has ever tried an installation on such a machine with a recent distribution.

I would like to stick with 9.1, I know I could try with an older kernel 
like 2.2 but the installation program and the supporting scripts look 
much easier to use in recent distributions. I am not planning to use X 
or network, I only need mpg123, mp3info and a couple of shell scripts.

raffaele


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