[newbie] Modem Question

2003-11-17 Thread Bill



Hello to the group.  I am pretty new to Linux. I have an old computer 
laying around that I would like to convert into a linux machine. It is a Dell 
Dimension L550r (PIII 550mhz) It came with a winmodem installed (Which no longer 
works). I am looking to replace the modem with a linux compatible modem, But I 
am having a hard time finding anything online. Can anyone recommend a good 
internal and/or external modem that would be compatible with Linux and my 
computer? And where to get it? I appreciate any input.Thanks and Best 
RegardsBill M[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [newbie] openoffice

2003-11-17 Thread Chia Der Sheng
Thank you!

I am using PowerPack Edition 9,0
And on the package it stated Sun Staroffice 6.0 but
not to sure which CD to use.
I have 
Installation CD1
Installation CD2
Installation Sources CD
Commercial Applications CD1
Commercial Applications CD2
Supplementary Application CD
International + Documentation CD

You mean I click on the kensole icon and go to the
root and 
type urpmi openoffice

Do I need to go the that drive: Say drive D: for CD.

I only create two partition Swap and "/". Is it
correct?

 --- Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On
Monday 17 November 2003 10:49 pm, Chia Der Sheng
> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > Can I install openoffice in mandrake Linux?
> >
> What version of Mandrake are you running?
> 
> > Is it very difficult?
> No
> 
> > How can I go about doing it?
> >
> Mandrake builds openoffice packages specifically for
> the Mandrake distro and 
> it is distributed in the iso images and boxed sets. 
> All you should have to 
> do is type 'urpmi openoffice' at a root console, or
> use the software 
> installer if you want a gui.


> 
> > What can I get openoffice?
> >
> It's part of the Mandrake distro and you can get the
> rpms either from your 
> cd's or from the distribution tree on any Mandrake
> ftp mirror.  Of course, 
> you can get precompiled binaries for OO.o directly
> from OO.o, but these are 
> harder to install and not as efficient because they
> are statically compiled.
> -- 
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> inside
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Re: [newbie] Downloading ISO problem

2003-11-17 Thread Dennis Myers
On Monday 17 November 2003 07:16 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Sunday 16 November 2003 05:03 pm, a large portion of the List wrote:
>
> 
>
> Thanks to all who replied - guess I'll try gftp or something like that.
>
> Although, I think I will try Konq (just out of curiosity) to see if it does
> better than Mozilla on large d/l's.
>
> Thanks again to everyone! :-)
Ron, I use Konqueror all the time for this, and it works quite well. It will 
even resume if a server is resumable.  Sometimes on smaller rpms and files I 
will split the screen left and right and then click home on the right screen, 
navigate to where I want to save the rpm etc and just drag and drop the file 
to my directory from the web site. HTH
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Re: [newbie] Be prepared for ignorant questions

2003-11-17 Thread Melissa Reese
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Hi Greg,

On Monday, November 17, 2003, at 6:25:36 PM PST, you wrote:

> If you want to play with Mandrake before installing it, the famous
> Texstar is building a LiveCD distro similar to Knoppix but based on
> Mandrake 9.2. It runs from the CD without touching your hard drive.

Thanks Greg.  I'm downloading it now.  I've been playing with Knoppix
from the boot CD, and that's been educational.  Once this download is
complete, I'll give this a try.

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Re: [newbie] general opinions about file servers and firewalls

2003-11-17 Thread gavin
On Monday 17 November 2003 01:02 pm, Richard Babcock wrote:
> Greetings everyone,
> I am currently using ML 9.1 and shorewall with a 160g hd as both file
> server and firewall. It occurs to me that this could be a flawed design
> or at least one inviting trouble.
> For example, if one machine fails I lose both the internet and my
> files. Also, it seems bad form to have my precious files 'right there'
> with the firewall.
> I have enough machinery on hand to allow me to put the file server in
> one box and the firewall in another. I would appreciate the opinions of
> others on this. Feel free to engage in religious discussions.
> One last thing (as Columbo would say). I went with shorewall because of
> the sheer volume of information about it available on the internet. ML
> also has a firewall of it's own does it not? Can anyone help me compare
> the two?
> tia
> R

R,

Do you have an old 386 laying around?? if so you should try IPCOP OR 
SMOOTHWALL they both work on old  boxes. and they are great firewalls. If you 
have the time then go with shorewall but if you want something quick and 
easy.. try IPCOP. its as easy as "set it and forget it!"

Grasshopper 

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Re: [newbie] openoffice

2003-11-17 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 17 November 2003 10:49 pm, Chia Der Sheng wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Can I install openoffice in mandrake Linux?
>
What version of Mandrake are you running?

> Is it very difficult?
No

> How can I go about doing it?
>
Mandrake builds openoffice packages specifically for the Mandrake distro and 
it is distributed in the iso images and boxed sets.  All you should have to 
do is type 'urpmi openoffice' at a root console, or use the software 
installer if you want a gui.

> What can I get openoffice?
>
It's part of the Mandrake distro and you can get the rpms either from your 
cd's or from the distribution tree on any Mandrake ftp mirror.  Of course, 
you can get precompiled binaries for OO.o directly from OO.o, but these are 
harder to install and not as efficient because they are statically compiled.
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Re: [newbie] website test, please

2003-11-17 Thread Eric Huff
> >>Would someone test www.topica.com for me?

> NOT fine with my Moz - hovering over the mainly blank page with
> the mouse, I could see that some links were meant to be there, but
> couldn't see them!

Margot, were you asking recently about using hosts files to prevent
ads? 

That is what it was for me.  The topica images are at a site
(statik.topica.com) that had found it's way into the hosts file i
grabbed.

It's the first time i got bit by it!

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[newbie] Updated rpms

2003-11-17 Thread Charles A Edwards

I have updated the 9.2 gaim rpms avaiable from my site to sync them with
the current cooker rpms.
This mdk release includes the gaim-festival plugin and does require that
festival and its depend be installed, use urpmi for that.


Also added to the site are bookcase-0.7.1-0.1
 
%description
Bookcase is a KDE application for keeping track of your book collection.

Features:

o Supports collections of books, bibliographic entries, videos, or
music. 
o Supports any number of user-defined fields, of eight different types:
   o text, paragraph, list, checkbox, year, URL
   o tables of one or two columns.
o Handles books with multiple authors, genres, keywords, etc.
o Automatically formats titles and names
o Supports collection searching and view filtering
o Sorts and groups collection by various properties
o Automatically validates ISBN
o Allows customizable output through XSLT
o Imports Bibtex, Bibtexml, and CSV
o Exports to Bibtex, Bibtexml, CSV, and HTML

and dlume-0.1.2-0.1

%description
Dlume is nice, Gtk 2-based address book. 
You can easily add, edit, and delete records from an XML database.
A Quick-search makes it easy to find entries.
Exporting to CSV and HTML formats is also possible.

For those who use alternate WMs dlume is a nice address book in that it
is WM independent.


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Re: [newbie] dvdrw drivers

2003-11-17 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 17 November 2003 10:45 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

> I'm sure I have seen mention of such software in one of the magazines,
> but I would guess that it would be expensive and proprietary.
> However, if I can find the reference I'll get back to you.

Well, I actually have such software for Windows, at least, I think that I 
probably do on some CD backup someplace, I don't use it now but was very into 
experimenting with the different video formats at one time and did some 
custom editing of disks just to see how it worked.  

I am not aware of any such software for Linux although I would be the first to 
admit that I could be out of touch, with no DV Camera, there simply is not 
much call for me to mess with video editing tools except out of technical 
curiosity and I think  that I quenched that pretty much with my previous 
experimentation.

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Re: [newbie] ATAPI 52x CD-Rom Reader error

2003-11-17 Thread C. Tresenriter
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:42:49 -0600
CT wrote:

|On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:37:44 +
|SN wrote:
|
||I'm having some problems with my ATAPI 52x CD-Rom. 
[...snip...]

I  said:  
[...snip...]...to
|the"append" line in your /etc/fstab. That's it.


DOH! (slap) I meant to say lilo.conf
Sorry

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Re: [newbie] E-mail sound.

2003-11-17 Thread Dick Gevers
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:15:42 +, candlish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
about Re: [newbie] E-mail sound.:

>Abuse is always possible! Should this be the reason for a lack of
>progress. Would you prefer to watch 'black & white' television, or limit
>any other technical advance?
>
>Sound is already here and slots on e-mail clients could be small to
>accommodate slender sound files until technology move forward.

I believe I am going to the mailfilter-devel list to ask for a
soundfilter. Or should I go to the audio store?

;-)

BTW, please unset your `reply-to`. It upsets some people enormously.

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Re: [newbie] Install on old hardware

2003-11-17 Thread C. Tresenriter
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:21:31 +
E wrote:

[]
|have you tried the alternet kernels? and have you tried the 'noapic' ? 

linux noapic goes as far as formatting the first partition and hangs
with the caps lock and scroll lock lit up on the keyboard. 


I seem to remember doing an alternate kernel install with 7.0 or 8.1,
starting the install with the second disk and being given a choice of
kernels. I tried starting with the second disk (this is 9.0), it asked
for the first one and I said 'alt1' at the prompt... it seems to be
working- it's gone farther than every other attempt so far. 
(later)
I had put the third disc in before I had to leave, just got home and
found the hard drive and CD ROM lights both lit and a blank screen but
it wouldn't wake. Re-booted and it gets as far as recognizing the HD and
CD ROM, then "Verifying DMI Pool Data" and just sits there.
I'll run through it again and see what happens.



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[newbie] Test

2003-11-17 Thread Melissa Reese
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Hi,

Sorry for the test, but I may be having a problem receiving list mail
today, so Eric asked me to send a test message to the list.

I did try to post a message to the list earlier this morning, and I
haven't seen it, or any other message since about 5 am posted to the
list today.

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Re: [newbie] ATAPI 52x CD-Rom Reader error

2003-11-17 Thread Scott Naylor
On Monday 17 November 2003 10:34 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Scott Naylor wrote:
> >I'm having some problems with my ATAPI 52x CD-Rom. It's supposed to be my
> >reader device in K3B, but right now it doesn't work. It isn't currently
> > set to scsi, but I don't know how to make it that way. What could I do to
> > get my CD Reader working in K3b?
>
> k3b is said to not need scsi-emulation,
>
> I think you ought to post your /etc/fstab here and lets see what it's
> got for you cdrom.
>
> John

Here's my FSTAB, except for scsi my reader and writer stats are the same.

/dev/hdb5 / reiserfs notail 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount 
dev=/dev/hdd,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
/dev/hdb1 /mnt/win_c2 vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hdb6 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/cd /mntautoro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd/mntautoro,noauto,user,exec 0 0


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[newbie] Lexmark Printer with 9.2

2003-11-17 Thread Ronan O'Hart
Hi
I am currently running drake 9.1 and was thinking of upgrading
I am woundering is lexmark Z35 supported directly from the Mandrake Control centre in 
this version, as I seem to remember a lot of trouble setting up the printer in 9.1 as 
it wasn't supported in the install version.

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Re: [newbie] website test, please

2003-11-17 Thread Margot
Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Sunday 16 November 2003 10:22 pm, Eric Huff wrote:

Would someone test www.topica.com for me?

On konq, opera and firebird i get almost none of the links.


Seemed fine with Mozilla here...

NOT fine with my Moz - hovering over the mainly blank page with the 
mouse, I could see that some links were meant to be there, but couldn't 
see them!


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[newbie] Be prepared for ignorant questions

2003-11-17 Thread Melissa Reese
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Hello!

WARNING:

UPS just delivered my Mandrake 9.2 PowerPack! As soon as my computer
tech friend can come here to look over my shoulder (sometime in the
next few days), I'll install it. In the meanwhile, I'll be reading the
Starter Guide.

After installation, you should expect this busy list to become even
busier with all my ignorant questions. Please be sure all your affairs
are in order...there may be trying times ahead. :-)

Just a thought...

If my curiosity gets the better of me before my friend can come here
to supervise my installation, is it possible to abort the installation
at any time and just start over again later without any ill effects?
I'll be installing MDK onto my second hard drive, so I won't have to
worry about partitioning the drive that WinXP currently occupies.

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Re: [newbie] Freezing under 9.2 installation

2003-11-17 Thread John Richard Smith
João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote:

Hi,
 
 I just downloaded the public ISO,
 
Two times I got success installing 9.2 by keep moving my mouse until 
the package install complete. But when I start to use the system, it 
freezes at random time.
How very odd, so you are saying that in order to complete an install and 
even after that,  during normal use you have to keep the mouse moving in 
order to prevent a complete system freeze . Sounds as though it doesn't 
like your make and model of mouse. Can you substitute the mouse with 
another make and model .

If the test mouse could be a simple ps2   2 button mouse , so well and good.

Otherwise, is there some sort of conflict ?
Could it be sharing something with something else and both are trying to 
compete for the access/resource.

 

The system I have is:
 
Athlon XP 1800+
mobo Asus A7N8X-X (nforce2 chipset, no dual channel support)
512 MB of generic 333 MHz DDR memory
3 HDD (40 GB Seagate, 26 GB Quantum, 20 GB Samsung)
TV Tunner Generic Card (Philips SAA730 chip)
MSI Geforce FX 5600 256 MB
3Ware IDE Raid card
MSI CD-Writer (this one I always use to install)
LG DVD Drive (due to that issue, I never installed using it).
 


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Re: [newbie] dvdrw drivers

2003-11-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 Nov 2003 1:38 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote:
>  What I was
> referring to was creating the ifo files with thumbnails that allow
> you to create the cool menus that come on commercial DVD's.  The
> ones where you can go through and see thumbnails of different
> chapters and select the ones that you want to start with, or the
> different special features, etc.  

I'm sure I have seen mention of such software in one of the magazines, 
but I would guess that it would be expensive and proprietary.  
However, if I can find the reference I'll get back to you.

> BTW, I have added a section on the twiki that covers DVD Drives in
> general, I think that it should at least point people in the right
> direction and tell them where to find tools.
>
> http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/DVDDrives
>
Thanks for that

> You can also find this off of the hardware compatibility topic.
>
Good idea

> Also, I have included a link to some scripts that are supposed to
> create the DVD-Video structure from a video file and burn it to
> disk.  Lastly, XcdRoast claims to have experimental support for
> authoring DVD-Video, I haven't tried it and my own experience with
> XcdRoast for DVD has been mixed, but it might be worth a shot.

It sounds an excellent start, Bryan.

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Re: [newbie] Downloading ISO problem

2003-11-17 Thread Charlie M.
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Monday 17 November 2003 6:16 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Sunday 16 November 2003 05:03 pm, a large portion of the List wrote:
>
> 
>
> Thanks to all who replied - guess I'll try gftp or something like that.
>
> Although, I think I will try Konq (just out of curiosity) to see if it does
> better than Mozilla on large d/l's.
>
> Thanks again to everyone! :-)

 GFTP is still a G.U.I. tool so it ain't all that different. C'mon Ronald, 
command line tools rock to the Nth degree you know. Try rsync, I dare ya.

Using a *browser* _still_? For downloading 650 and 700 MB files? Chicken!



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Re: [newbie] do 9.2 isos contain the fix for lg cdroms?

2003-11-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 Nov 2003 1:41 pm, Anarky wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> >On Monday 17 Nov 2003 12:26 pm, Anarky wrote:
> >>I saw the fix and everything ... but still I don't believe it's a
> >>nice thing to leave software that does that like that .. might
> >> make people (me too) think that mandrake stuff isn't all that
> >> great ... which is not a nice thing :)
> >
> >Anarky - you are way out on this.  Mandrake does *not* break
> > drives. Drives that have a built-in firmware fault break when
> > certain software, which would include windows software, make a
> > recognised ATAPI function call.  It is *not* a Mandrake problem. 
> > The only *fix* Mandrake can give is a temporary one - the removal
> > of some functionality of the kernel.  They should not have to do
> > that.
>
> yes, but assuming those drives only break for Mandrake, maybe not
> even other distros nor windows .. then some could (reasonably imo)
> argue that the hardware is okay and it's Mandrake's fault. I'm just
> thinking how I'm going to explain this to somebody I might promote
> linux to: how can I explain that it's his hardware's fault when he
> sees it working right?

It's not only Mandrake.  As I said, any software, including, say, 
windows cd-rewriting software might use the call.  Remember that 
these drives haven't been around long, so there may not have been 
enough cases yet for it to be recognised for what it is - after all 
we are used to horrific problems in windows, so it wouldn't be worth 
a comment.  Maybe I'm being unfair, but I don't think so.  The next 
few weeks will tell.

Second - do recognise that Mandrake is a cutting-edge distro.  People 
like it because it gives them the latest and greatest.  That makes it 
inevitable that if something really weird happens, like an ATAPI 
drive that turns out not to be ATAPI-compliant, Mandrake has a high 
chance of being the first one to fall foul of it.

Lastly, These drives are not ATAPI-compliant, and they are sold as 
such.  In the UK that is an offence, under the Trade Descriptions 
Act.  I would be surprised if that were not so elsewhere.

As for convincing your friends, I'm sure you now know enough to make 
sure that you know whether they have a drive likely to be affected.  
You know how to guard against it by installing the patch.  Once 
again, it is demonstrated that problems with Linux are identified 
quickly.  In this case a software work-around was provided for the 
time it took to get LG to publish the fix.  I'd say that was pretty 
good.

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[newbie] Freezing under 9.2 installation

2003-11-17 Thread João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho



Hi,
 
First I downloaded Mandrake 9.2 from rawtree. I 
tried to install it, after download, and got freeze when it was installing 
packages. The freeze I get is complete freeze at a random time, I need to reset 
the system from the reset button.
I tried to change settings on the BIOS and got 
freeze again. I have a PCI IDE RAID card. So I removed it to see if it would 
stop freezing, bot got no success. 
 
I thought it was a rawtree problem. So, I just 
downloaded the public ISO, and got the same problem.
 
Two times I got success installing 9.2 by keep 
moving my mouse until the package install complete. But when I start to use the 
system, it freezes at random time.
 
Anyone can tell me what can I do to find out what 
is happening.
 
When I install slackware I got no 
problems.
 
The system I have is:
 
Athlon XP 1800+
mobo Asus A7N8X-X (nforce2 chipset, no dual channel 
support)
512 MB of generic 333 MHz DDR memory
3 HDD (40 GB Seagate, 26 GB Quantum, 20 GB 
Samsung)
TV Tunner Generic Card (Philips SAA730 
chip)
MSI Geforce FX 5600 256 MB
3Ware IDE Raid card
MSI CD-Writer (this one I always use to 
install)
LG DVD Drive (due to that issue, I never installed 
using it).
 
Well, I hope I can get help. Mandrake is the system 
I really like, and I need to use Linux to my pos-graduation works.
 
Thanks all


Re: [newbie] do 9.2 isos contain the fix for lg cdroms?

2003-11-17 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 17 November 2003 08:41 am, Anarky wrote:

> yes, but assuming those drives only break for Mandrake, maybe not even
> other distros nor windows .. then some could (reasonably imo) argue that
> the hardware is okay and it's Mandrake's fault. 

IIRC, Mandrake is not the only distro that included the code in question, just 
the most prevalent, thus garnering the lion's share of press about it.

> I'm just thinking how 
> I'm going to explain this to somebody I might promote linux to: how can
> I explain that it's his hardware's fault when he sees it working right?

I would assume that you would explain it the same way in that instance as you 
would in the instance that they are using an unsupported modem, scanner, RAID 
controller card, sound card, etc.  How is an unsupported drive any different?  
In fact, it is better in this instance in that a firmware upgrade will create 
a supported device.  Much better than for a RAID card or scanner that is 
totally unsupported and never will be supported.

If they are looking for something that is foolproof and involves no reasonable 
effort or accommodation, I would humbly suggest that you might be doing them 
a disservice by promoting Linux to them.

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Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte - SOLVED

2003-11-17 Thread Raffaele Belardi
I wish I could :-)

That bios does not have an evident way to skip the memory test.

raffaele

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On Monday 17 November 2003 01:10 pm, Raffaele Belardi wrote:
>
rather than reduce the ram, why not set the bios to not count the ram at boot?



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Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte - SOLVED

2003-11-17 Thread et
On Monday 17 November 2003 01:10 pm, Raffaele Belardi wrote:
> I managed to install and run MDK9.1 on a P100 with 64Mbyte RAM and a
> 300Mbyte Conner HD.
>
> I found out that the problem I had with the installation program
> crashing was apparently due to the kernel turning DMA on for my drive. I
> solved this passing the "ide=nodma" argument on the linux command line
> (you get there by typing the F1 key at spash screen).
>
> I'm using this system only as an mp3 player (only text tools). CPU usage
> is around 30% while decoding, swap space (30Mb) is never used,
> installation takes approx 150Mbyte of disk. I'll try to reduce RAM to
> 32Mbyte or less, to speed up the bios boot.
>
> Keep trying, it can be done :-)
>
> raffaele
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD.
> > I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the
> > basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never
> > finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process.
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Re: [newbie] do 9.2 isos contain the fix for lg cdroms?

2003-11-17 Thread Anarky
Anne Wilson wrote:

On Monday 17 Nov 2003 12:26 pm, Anarky wrote:
 

I saw the fix and everything ... but still I don't believe it's a
nice thing to leave software that does that like that .. might make
people (me too) think that mandrake stuff isn't all that great ...
which is not a nice thing :)
   

Anarky - you are way out on this.  Mandrake does *not* break drives.  
Drives that have a built-in firmware fault break when certain 
software, which would include windows software, make a recognised 
ATAPI function call.  It is *not* a Mandrake problem.  The only *fix* 
Mandrake can give is a temporary one - the removal of some 
functionality of the kernel.  They should not have to do that.

yes, but assuming those drives only break for Mandrake, maybe not even 
other distros nor windows .. then some could (reasonably imo) argue that 
the hardware is okay and it's Mandrake's fault. I'm just thinking how 
I'm going to explain this to somebody I might promote linux to: how can 
I explain that it's his hardware's fault when he sees it working right?


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Re: [newbie] dvdrw drivers

2003-11-17 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 17 November 2003 07:31 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

> > This is much tougher.  There are several video editing packages out
> > on the net, none of which I am familiar with since I don't own a DV
> > camera.  There is a project to create a DVD-Video authoring GUI
> > called DVD-Create, but it is not in a stage where there is an
> > actual tool to use.  Copying existing DVD's is easier and there are
> > tools for that but I don't know of any that exist currently for
> > Linux.
>
> Would this help?
> http://www.wylug.org.uk/talks/2003/09/non_linear_video.html

Well, that shows how to create the video file itself.  What I was referring to 
was creating the ifo files with thumbnails that allow you to create the cool 
menus that come on commercial DVD's.  The ones where you can go through and 
see thumbnails of different chapters and select the ones that you want to 
start with, or the different special features, etc.  In order to do that kind 
of thing, you need to have an editor that creates the ifo files necessary to 
support that and then you have to have a directory structure to store the 
thumbnails and link them to the particular menu entry.  I have done some of 
that kind of thing on Windows, just when I was learning about DVD and VCD 
file formats but I have not done that on Linux.

BTW, I have added a section on the twiki that covers DVD Drives in general, I 
think that it should at least point people in the right direction and tell 
them where to find tools.  

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/DVDDrives

You can also find this off of the hardware compatibility topic.

Also, I have included a link to some scripts that are supposed to create the 
DVD-Video structure from a video file and burn it to disk.  Lastly, XcdRoast 
claims to have experimental support for authoring DVD-Video, I haven't tried 
it and my own experience with XcdRoast for DVD has been mixed, but it might 
be worth a shot.

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Re: [newbie] OGG - player

2003-11-17 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 17 November 2003 07:43 am, Pawel Nozderko wrote:
> I have one quest. - Who know of any hardware ogg player ?
> What firm had been produced it, and how it cost?

www.iriver.com
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Re: [newbie] do 9.2 isos contain the fix for lg cdroms?

2003-11-17 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 17 November 2003 07:26 am, Anarky wrote:
> Tom Brinkman wrote:
> >On Sunday 16 November 2003 12:07 pm, Anarky wrote:
> >>any idea if the downloadable isos can still break cdroms or
> >>if they have a fixed version?
> >
> >  Well first of all it's the LG drives, not Mandrake that needs
> >fixin. Those with LG (or rebadged drives which are actually LG's)
> >should up date their firmware ... even if they don't install Mdk
> >9.2, even if they're confirmed Windoze users. The drives should
> >not be used as is.
> >
> >   To answer your question tho, The iso's on the mirrors are the
> >same ones released to club members, the same ones that are sold.
> >They can render a buggy LG CDrom as useless. The fix is to fix
> >the LG's.   http://us.lgservice.com/   click on 'Device Drivers',
> >then 'Cdrom'.
>
> I saw the fix and everything ... but still I don't believe it's a nice
> thing to leave software that does that like that .. might make people
> (me too) think that mandrake stuff isn't all that great ... which is not
> a nice thing :)

So even though you intellectually know that it is not Mandrake'a fault, you 
are still blaming them?  It's not a nice thing for hardware manufacturers to 
make things that break when standards compliant software tries to access 
them.
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Re: [newbie] website test, please

2003-11-17 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 16 November 2003 10:22 pm, Eric Huff wrote:
> Would someone test www.topica.com for me?
>
> On konq, opera and firebird i get almost none of the links.


Seemed fine with Mozilla here...

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Re: [newbie] Downloading ISO problem

2003-11-17 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 16 November 2003 05:03 pm, a large portion of the List wrote:



Thanks to all who replied - guess I'll try gftp or something like that.

Although, I think I will try Konq (just out of curiosity) to see if it does 
better than Mozilla on large d/l's.

Thanks again to everyone! :-)

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Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte - SOLVED

2003-11-17 Thread Raffaele Belardi
I managed to install and run MDK9.1 on a P100 with 64Mbyte RAM and a 
300Mbyte Conner HD.

I found out that the problem I had with the installation program 
crashing was apparently due to the kernel turning DMA on for my drive. I 
solved this passing the "ide=nodma" argument on the linux command line 
(you get there by typing the F1 key at spash screen).

I'm using this system only as an mp3 player (only text tools). CPU usage 
is around 30% while decoding, swap space (30Mb) is never used, 
installation takes approx 150Mbyte of disk. I'll try to reduce RAM to 
32Mbyte or less, to speed up the bios boot.

Keep trying, it can be done :-)

raffaele

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I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD. 
I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the 
basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never 
finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process.



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Re: [newbie] OGG - player

2003-11-17 Thread Jure Repinc
Pawel Nozderko wrote:
I have one quest. - Who know of any hardware ogg player ?
What firm had been produced it, and how it cost?
http://www.neurosaudio.com/


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Re: [newbie] do 9.2 isos contain the fix for lg cdroms?

2003-11-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 Nov 2003 12:26 pm, Anarky wrote:
>
> I saw the fix and everything ... but still I don't believe it's a
> nice thing to leave software that does that like that .. might make
> people (me too) think that mandrake stuff isn't all that great ...
> which is not a nice thing :)

Anarky - you are way out on this.  Mandrake does *not* break drives.  
Drives that have a built-in firmware fault break when certain 
software, which would include windows software, make a recognised 
ATAPI function call.  It is *not* a Mandrake problem.  The only *fix* 
Mandrake can give is a temporary one - the removal of some 
functionality of the kernel.  They should not have to do that.

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[newbie] OGG - player

2003-11-17 Thread Pawel Nozderko
I have one quest. - Who know of any hardware ogg player ?
What firm had been produced it, and how it cost?


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Re: [newbie] dvdrw drivers

2003-11-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 Nov 2003 12:12 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote:
> On Sunday 16 November 2003 11:46 pm, Richard Babcock wrote:
> > Thank you for the discussion. I do see via a number of web sites
> > and discussion lists that the dvdrw drive can easily be set up
> > for writing data.
> > My focus in this instance is making dvd movies. I teach newbie
> > classes on whatever newbies want to learn and I see this as an
> > area of interest. There are several companies working on making
> > the 'home dvd' revolution happen, sort of like the desktop
> > publishing revolution some years back. Of course, I would like to
> > include Linux in the curriculum.
>
> This is much tougher.  There are several video editing packages out
> on the net, none of which I am familiar with since I don't own a DV
> camera.  There is a project to create a DVD-Video authoring GUI
> called DVD-Create, but it is not in a stage where there is an
> actual tool to use.  Copying existing DVD's is easier and there are
> tools for that but I don't know of any that exist currently for
> Linux.
>
Would this help?  
http://www.wylug.org.uk/talks/2003/09/non_linear_video.html

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Re: [newbie] do 9.2 isos contain the fix for lg cdroms?

2003-11-17 Thread Anarky
Tom Brinkman wrote:

On Sunday 16 November 2003 12:07 pm, Anarky wrote:
 

   any idea if the downloadable isos can still break cdroms or
if they have a fixed version?
   

 Well first of all it's the LG drives, not Mandrake that needs 
fixin. Those with LG (or rebadged drives which are actually LG's) 
should up date their firmware ... even if they don't install Mdk 
9.2, even if they're confirmed Windoze users. The drives should 
not be used as is.

  To answer your question tho, The iso's on the mirrors are the 
same ones released to club members, the same ones that are sold. 
They can render a buggy LG CDrom as useless. The fix is to fix 
the LG's.   http://us.lgservice.com/   click on 'Device Drivers', 
then 'Cdrom'.
 

I saw the fix and everything ... but still I don't believe it's a nice 
thing to leave software that does that like that .. might make people 
(me too) think that mandrake stuff isn't all that great ... which is not 
a nice thing :)


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Re: [newbie] do 9.2 isos contain the fix for lg cdroms?

2003-11-17 Thread Anarky
Joeb wrote:

Anarky wrote:

   any idea if the downloadable isos can still break cdroms or if 
they have a fixed version?


The ftp ISO images (as do the boxed sets) still contain the code that 
can break a defective LG CD-ROM (not CDRW or DVD).  I believe this was 
so there wouldn't be multiple version of Mandrake 9.0 floating around 
which would make bug fixes/troubleshooting pretty difficult (plus the 
CDs were already burned before the bug surfaced).

The good news is that Mandrake has a link to the fix on LG's web 
site.  The link, with a warning, is on the page that lists the various 
ftp sites for downloading the 9.2 ISOs.  In my opinion, it could have 
been made more noticable, but it is there, none the less.

The other good news, is that even if someone fries their LG CDROM, the 
link includes instructions on how to fix it after the fact.

I haven't had an opportunity to try the fix (I don't use LG CDROMs), 
but I have downloaded the fix and all, so that if I install Mandrake 
on somebody's computer that has it, I can upgrade the firmware before 
installation.

Hope that helps,
yep, thanks.


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Re: [newbie] RE: rebooting, Greg Meyer, grub.lst

2003-11-17 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 17 November 2003 02:04 am, Maureen L. Thomas wrote:
> Here is a copy of my grub.lst.  I appreciate your help. TIA Maureen
>
>
> timeout 10
> color black/cyan yellow/cyan
> i18n (hd0,7)/grub/messages
> keytable (hd0,7)/us.klt
> altconfigfile (hd0,7)/grub/menu.once
> default 0
>
> title linux
> kernel (hd0,7)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 noapic devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi
> acpi=ht resume=
> /dev/hda5
> initrd (hd0,7)/initrd.img
>
> title floppy
> root (fd0)
> chainloader +1
>
> title 2422-21
> kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz-2.4.22-21mdk root=/dev/hda1 noapic devfs=mount
> hdc=ide-scsi ac
> pi=ht resume=/dev/hda5
> initrd (hd0,0)/initrd-2.4.22-21mdk.img
>
> title 2422-10
> kernel (hd0,7)/vmlinuz-2.4.22-10mdk root=/dev/hda1 noapic devfs=mount
> hdc=ide-scsi ac
> pi=ht resume=/dev/hda5
> initrd (hd0,7)/initrd-2.4.22-10mdk.img
>
> title failsafe
> kernel (hd0,7)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 noapic failsafe devfs=nomount
> hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5
> initrd (hd0,7)/initrd.img
>
> 26,25 Bot
Maureen, what is your disk layout like?  This file says that root is hda1, 
your first partition and your kernel images are in /boot on hda8, or the 
eighth partition on your drive.
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Re: [newbie] dvdrw drivers

2003-11-17 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 16 November 2003 11:46 pm, Richard Babcock wrote:
> Thank you for the discussion. I do see via a number of web sites and
> discussion lists that the dvdrw drive can easily be set up for writing
> data.
> My focus in this instance is making dvd movies. I teach newbie classes
> on whatever newbies want to learn and I see this as an area of interest.
> There are several companies working on making the 'home dvd' revolution
> happen, sort of like the desktop publishing revolution some years back.
> Of course, I would like to include Linux in the curriculum.


This is much tougher.  There are several video editing packages out on the 
net, none of which I am familiar with since I don't own a DV camera.  There 
is a project to create a DVD-Video authoring GUI called DVD-Create, but it is 
not in a stage where there is an actual tool to use.  Copying existing DVD's 
is easier and there are tools for that but I don't know of any that exist 
currently for Linux.  

Also, since a lot of these types of tools require licensing from the guys that 
have patents on the industry standards, like MPAA and others, finding Linux 
developers for them can be tough.  Many of the tools that are necessary to 
work with DVD Video would effectively be illegal under the DMCA since editing 
tools, by definition, can be used to bypass copy protection schemes.

This would probably be one of those things that would cause me to suggest 
newbies should maintain a dual-boot scenario, at least currently.  Hopefully, 
the DVD-Create project will move along and make that unnecessary at some 
point.  Of course, there might be a budding cinematographer on the list that 
knows more than I do.

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Re: [newbie] email sound (unfortunately) revisited

2003-11-17 Thread et
On Monday 17 November 2003 04:39 am, Richard Babcock wrote:
> Dear Mr. Candlish:
> -begin heartless rant-
snipped heartless rant
> -end heartless rant-
woowsa, yessa


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Re: [newbie] general opinions about file servers and firewalls

2003-11-17 Thread et
On Monday 17 November 2003 09:36 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Monday 17 Nov 2003 4:55 am, Sharrea Day wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:02, Richard Babcock wrote:
> > > Greetings everyone,
> > > I am currently using ML 9.1 and shorewall with a 160g hd as both file
> > > server and firewall. It occurs to me that this could be a flawed design
> > > or at least one inviting trouble.
> > > For example, if one machine fails I lose both the internet and my
> > > files. Also, it seems bad form to have my precious files 'right there'
> > > with the firewall.
> > > I have enough machinery on hand to allow me to put the file server in
> > > one box and the firewall in another. I would appreciate the opinions of
> > > others on this. Feel free to engage in religious discussions.
> > > One last thing (as Columbo would say). I went with shorewall because of
> > > the sheer volume of information about it available on the internet. ML
> > > also has a firewall of it's own does it not? Can anyone help me compare
> > > the two?
>
> The firewall in Mandrake *is* shorewall.
> But the front end GUI Mandrake have tacked on is not great, and often sets
> up shorewall incorrectly. It is much easier to set up shorewall by hand
> with reference to www.shorewall.net, or by using the webmin module.
>
> derek
my .02$usd..
MUCH better Idea to have a separate box for firewall/router, and keep files on 
and inside box... Mandrakes mnf 'should' *be the ticket* for that firewall 
box, and 9.1 or 9.2 is fine for the fileserver.  Actually the firewall _is_ 
IPtables, and is at the kernel level and shorewall is a configuration tool. 
keep shorewall fully configured on the file server toojust in case, and 
since there is no real noticeable negative. can't be too safe with your data.

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Re: [newbie] apache and php help needed

2003-11-17 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 16 November 2003 10:34 pm, Charlie wrote:
> Running mandrake 9.1, mysql 4.0.11a, apache 1.3.27 and php 4.3.0, all right
> of the mandrake 9.1 CD's.
>
> I'm trying to set up PHP to view data pulled from mysql database. I have
> the mysql database up and running fine. (this is on a small home network)
>
> I have apache and php installed but something is not right. Apache service
> shows as running in Mandrake control center, but not in webmin. In webmin
> it says "The Apache root directory /etc/httpd2 does not exist. If you have
> Apache installed, adjust the module configuration to use the correct
> paths."

You need to click the Module Config link on the Apache tab and tell it to use 
the correct httpd.conf file instead of httpd2.conf.  My guess would be that 
you have both Apache 2 and Apache 1.3 installed but are running 1.3.  Webmin 
tries to figure out which version you are running and defaults to 2 if it is 
there, I think.

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Re: [newbie] ATAPI 52x CD-Rom Reader error

2003-11-17 Thread John Richard Smith
Scott Naylor wrote:

I'm having some problems with my ATAPI 52x CD-Rom. It's supposed to be my 
reader device in K3B, but right now it doesn't work. It isn't currently set 
to scsi, but I don't know how to make it that way. What could I do to get my 
CD Reader working in K3b?
 

k3b is said to not need scsi-emulation,

I think you ought to post your /etc/fstab here and lets see what it's 
got for you cdrom.

John

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Re: [newbie] apache and php help needed

2003-11-17 Thread et
On Monday 17 November 2003 10:33 am, Adolfo Bello wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 04:29, Mike 'yomcat' Welsh wrote:
> > on 17/11/03 3:34 PM, Charlie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > The Apache root directory /etc/httpd2 does not exist. If you have
> > > Apache installed, adjust the module configuration to use the correct
> > > paths
> >
> > Edit your httpd.conf file. You might nede to put in the PHP stuff as
> > well.
>
> Add the lines:
>
> LoadModule php4_modulemodules/libphp4.so
> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
>
>
> Adolfo
first off, he is running apache 1.3, so naturally there is no /etc/httpd2, and 
Mandrake sets up /var/www/http as the doc root if he sets /var/www/http 
as the doc root, and sets webmin to find httpd instead of httpd2, or installs 
apache2 he might have better luck... 


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Re: [newbie] Install on old hardware

2003-11-17 Thread et
On Monday 17 November 2003 03:15 am, C. Tresenriter wrote:
> After several attempts to install 9.0, 9.1 and 9.2 on a PT-5VMD
> mobo (VIA MVP3 chipset), I finally got through the formatting stage and
> packages began to install and then crashed with a (now) familiar
> message that I've seen at different stages - sometimes right after
> booting, sometimes when formatting failed:
>
> CPU:  0   Oops: 0002
> EIP:  0010:[]   Not tainted
> EFLAGS: 00010002
> eax: 07d10001 ebx: c0255460   ecx:    edx: e00
> esi: 000e00 edi:    ebp: c0217e74   esp: c0217e4c
> ds: 0018 es: 0018
> Process swapper (pid: 0, stackpage=c0217000)
> Stack: ff00 c0176888 0010 0202 0008 00d02400 c02554cc
>   (etc two more rows here)
> Call Trace[] [] .
>(and two more rows here)
>
> Code 00 83 c4 0c c7 43 60 00 00 00 00 eb a1 90 fc 06 1e 50 55 57
> <0>Kernel panic: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!
> In interrupt handler - not syncing
>
> The processor is an AMD K6 - 400 with 131 MB RAM and a Seagate 4.3 Gb
> hard disk.
>
> I'm guessing it's hardware related.
> Anyone have a clue what's happening?
>
> TIA
have you tried the alternet kernels? and have you tried the 'noapic' ? 


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Re: [newbie] apache and php help needed

2003-11-17 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 04:29, Mike 'yomcat' Welsh wrote:
> on 17/11/03 3:34 PM, Charlie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > The Apache root directory /etc/httpd2 does not exist. If you have
> > Apache installed, adjust the module configuration to use the correct paths
> Edit your httpd.conf file. You might nede to put in the PHP stuff as well.

Add the lines:

LoadModule php4_modulemodules/libphp4.so
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php


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Re: [newbie] general opinions about file servers and firewalls

2003-11-17 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 17 Nov 2003 4:55 am, Sharrea Day wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:02, Richard Babcock wrote:
> > Greetings everyone,
> > I am currently using ML 9.1 and shorewall with a 160g hd as both file
> > server and firewall. It occurs to me that this could be a flawed design
> > or at least one inviting trouble.
> > For example, if one machine fails I lose both the internet and my
> > files. Also, it seems bad form to have my precious files 'right there'
> > with the firewall.
> > I have enough machinery on hand to allow me to put the file server in
> > one box and the firewall in another. I would appreciate the opinions of
> > others on this. Feel free to engage in religious discussions.
> > One last thing (as Columbo would say). I went with shorewall because of
> > the sheer volume of information about it available on the internet. ML
> > also has a firewall of it's own does it not? Can anyone help me compare
> > the two?
>
The firewall in Mandrake *is* shorewall.
But the front end GUI Mandrake have tacked on is not great, and often sets up 
shorewall incorrectly. It is much easier to set up shorewall by hand with 
reference to www.shorewall.net, or by using the webmin module.

derek

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Re: [newbie] Firewall logging

2003-11-17 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 17 Nov 2003 5:42 am, Greg Meyer wrote:
> I have Shorewall set up on my laptop, but I am finding that my logs are
> getting inundated with messages from Shorewall telling me about all the
> packets being dropped from the Windows machines on my network.
>
> How can I reduce the amount of logging that goes on and is it safe to do
> so. Do I really need to know about every one of these stray packets?


Two solutions.
The easy one is  to remove the 'info' from the entries in 
/etc/shorewall/policy  That will kill all shorewall logging of dropped 
packets.

The second solution for those with plenty of time is to edit /etc/syslog.conf 
so that shorewall info log entries are not put into syslog and instead go in 
a different log.  (You will also need to set up logrotate to rotate that log)
See 'man syslogd'

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Re: [newbie] apache and php help needed

2003-11-17 Thread Mike 'yomcat' Welsh
on 17/11/03 3:34 PM, Charlie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The Apache root directory /etc/httpd2 does not exist. If you have
> Apache installed, adjust the module configuration to use the correct paths
Edit your httpd.conf file. You might nede to put in the PHP stuff as well.
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[newbie] RE: rebooting, Greg Meyer, grub.lst

2003-11-17 Thread Maureen L. Thomas
Here is a copy of my grub.lst.  I appreciate your help. TIA Maureen

timeout 10
color black/cyan yellow/cyan
i18n (hd0,7)/grub/messages
keytable (hd0,7)/us.klt
altconfigfile (hd0,7)/grub/menu.once
default 0
title linux
kernel (hd0,7)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 noapic devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi
acpi=ht resume=
/dev/hda5
initrd (hd0,7)/initrd.img
title floppy
root (fd0)
chainloader +1
title 2422-21
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz-2.4.22-21mdk root=/dev/hda1 noapic devfs=mount
hdc=ide-scsi ac
pi=ht resume=/dev/hda5
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd-2.4.22-21mdk.img
title 2422-10
kernel (hd0,7)/vmlinuz-2.4.22-10mdk root=/dev/hda1 noapic devfs=mount
hdc=ide-scsi ac
pi=ht resume=/dev/hda5
initrd (hd0,7)/initrd-2.4.22-10mdk.img
title failsafe
kernel (hd0,7)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 noapic failsafe devfs=nomount
hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5
initrd (hd0,7)/initrd.img
26,25 Bot




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Re: [newbie] ** LIST ISSUES: PLEASE READ **

2003-11-17 Thread Eric Huff
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This appears to be because you are sending mail from a different
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