Re: [newbie] Linux VS Windows virus Vulnerability

2003-11-29 Thread rikona
Hello Russ,

Saturday, November 29, 2003, 5:38:25 PM, you wrote:

R> Hi All,

R> This is from a Win list. All above my head. Any truth to it?

R> Thanks
R> Russ

R> [I suspect almost no Unix users know how to properly configure
R> IPchains to prevent a random process from accessing the network
R> improperly].

Ask him how to do it. I'd like to do that too.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2

2003-11-29 Thread Teilhard Knight
> On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 7:44 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote:
> > I posed this question before and I was greatly helped by Derek. I had
> > problems in Windows XP, and two months have passed before I solved them.
> >
> > I am trying to configure a wireless internet access on a desktop
computer
> > by means of an SMS2662W USB adaptor On Mandrake 9.2.
> >
> > Derek advised me to use one of two drivers: at76c593a or
atmelwlandriver. I
> > never tried them because I felt I had to fix problems in Windows before
> > trying in Mandrake. I also have the drivers provided by SMC. The problem
> > with this one is that I can simply do not see how the driver is called.
The
> > file to download is SMC2662WV2_Linux.tar.gz, and upon de-compression it
> > gives the folder: SMC_USB_WIRELESS_2662W. No more references to how the
> > driver is called. There are here 2 tools to configure the driver, I have
> > used one and I think the driver is now ready.
> >
> > If I go to configuration to Internet access, I can select from a list of
> > drivers, but the ones Derek suggested do not appear in 9.2.
> >
> > I apologize to you, Derek, because I suddenly disappeared, but I have
had
> > very little time to configure my computers. I would appreciate it if you
> > will still help me this time.
> >
> > Teilhard
>
> As it happens the at76c593a driver is included with 9.2 and it works
> beautifully. The only problem is that the atmelwlandriver is also included
> and will claim your SMS2662W first.
>  The atmelwlandriver is my opinion a right pig to configure especially
since
> the configuration utility is *not* included in 9.2
>
> I have a workaround described here
>
http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=19


Thanks so much, Derek. It seems that my adaptor is not recognized by the OS.
However, when I write: iwconfig. the right parameters of the wireless
networking appear in eth0. I just get info; I do not know how to use it as a
configuration utility. Please tell me where I find the drivers you recommend
and how to load them. For the driver provided by SMC, I get a configuration
utility which I have used already. Seems the driver is properly configured
now, but I do not even know its name.

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Re: [newbie] linux-out to lunch

2003-11-29 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:35 pm, many eyes noted that Mike Adolf wrote:
> Sometimes linux looses it.
> I added a second user using userdrake. When I tried to logon to the new
> account. I get "No Write Permission on HOME " KDE can't start.  SO,
> although the new home has the same permissions as my home,  I change the
> permission to 777 on new HOME.  Tried to log on again (without rebooting),
> and it worked. I thought, OK problem solved. Wrong! After I rebooted, it
> got the same error, THE PERMISSONS WERE SET BACK TO ORIGINAL VALUES!! I
> repeated the chmod again just to make sure I wasn't nuts. I wasn't.
>
> I opened userdrake and it had the userid = 500 and groupid = 500. BUT doing
> an ls -l on /home shows that the new home has user and group both 502 
>
> Linux has almost defeated me!
> mike.

try chown -cv mike: /home/mike or whatever it is supposed to be***

See how that works?

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Re: [newbie] External editors with Kmail/Sylpheed-claws/Knode/Pan?

2003-11-29 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:55 pm, many eyes noted that aron wrote:
> > In kmail, just highlight the text you want included in the reply and hit
> > r or click the reply button.
> >
> > > satisfied than with KMail which, from what I've seen, is little more
> > > than an OE substitute.
> >
> > Watch yourself, them's fightin' words.  Kmail is way better than OE.
>
> Yeh but so is a Goose Quill Pen

Kmail is great, but I haven't yet been able to highlight 5 messages and hit 
reply, and it replies to all, but it will forward them without any problems.

Horses for courses?

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Re: [newbie] Menu - Install - Chaos

2003-11-29 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 03:14 pm, many eyes noted that Cenora wrote:
> I'm not able to analyse them. I use KDE desktop, and it's way too slow
> on loading at startup. Programs are taking longer too to load. I checked
> the CPU usage, and it seems normal... Gotta be something intrinsic from
> the MDK/KDE?!?!
>
> Well, I feel too much like a newbie sometimes...
>
> Thanks
>
> Thiago

Bring up a terminal and type in top, see if aplay is running in the 
background? Probably something else, but this has happened to me a few times.

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Re: [newbie] Menu - Install - Chaos

2003-11-29 Thread Cenora


Run update-menus -v as root
I've done it, but didn work. I changed the security level, and its' ok 
now with the menus (considering it's 9.2).

and then apply all the security and bug fix updates to fix permanently. 
Are there programs like those available? Correcting programs?

What is slow BTW, K3b or the system?
The system is slow. What's BTW?

 If it is taking too long to load programs, it could be that the machine is 
having trouble resolving to its own name.  What does your /etc/hosts file 
look like?
I'm not able to analyse them. I use KDE desktop, and it's way too slow 
on loading at startup. Programs are taking longer too to load. I checked 
the CPU usage, and it seems normal... Gotta be something intrinsic from 
the MDK/KDE?!?!

Well, I feel too much like a newbie sometimes...

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2 and a SMS 2662W USB NIC

2003-11-29 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Saturday 29 November 2003 6:52 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote:
> > On Saturday 29 November 2003 11:44 am, Teilhard Knight wrote:
> > > I posed this question before and I was greatly helped by Derek. I had
> > > problems in Windows XP, and two months have passed before I solved
> > > them.
> > >
> > > I am trying to configure a wireless internet access on a desktop
>> computer
>> > > by means of an SMS2662W USB adapter On Mandrake 9.2.
> > >
> > > If I go to configuration to Internet access, I can select from a list
> > > of drivers, but the ones Derek suggested do not appear in 9.2.
> >
> > Around here, "Mandrake 9.2" is not a great description of your problem.
>> You
>> > might mention that it is about a wireless USB adapter.
>> Of course, sorry about that.
>> > Now, onto the problem. Does your USB connection see the wireless NIC? I
>> would
>> > recommend running in a root console "tail-f /var/log/messages" and then
>> see
>
> > if the system is working well. You should see the USB system detect new
> > hardware, and then identify it, and set it up for use. If not, you need
> > to solve usb problems for it. Only after that, can you
> >move on.

Here is the section of your boot log that shows it being dealt with:
> Nov 29 18:23:04 castillo /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup usbvnet_rfmd
> at76c503-rfmd for USB product d5c/a002/100
Note here that it is selecting the at76c503 module, not the wrong module.

> Nov 29 18:23:04 castillo /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: ... no modules for USB
> product 0/0/0
> 
> Nov 29 18:23:04 castillo /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: ... no modules for USB
> product 0/0/0
Don't sweat these your NIC is not 0/0/0.

> Nov 29 18:23:05 castillo /etc/hotplug/net.agent: invoke ifplugd eth0
> 
> Nov 29 18:23:05 castillo ifplugd(eth0)[471]: Using interface
> eth0/00:04:E2:5D:E7:65
Notice that it has now been made eth0, so you are working right here.

> Nov 29 18:23:05 castillo ifplugd(eth0)[471]: Using detection mode: wireless
> extension
> 
> Nov 29 18:23:05 castillo ifplugd(eth0)[471]: ifplugd 0.15 successfully
> initialized, link beat detected.
> 
> Nov 29 18:23:05 castillo ifplugd(eth0)[471]: Executing
> '/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action eth0 up'.

This is a very good note, as eth0 is made to be alive. And you should be 
succeeding with a network connection.

Now, if you are having problems still, you need a Linux Wireless Guru, not me, 
as I am no guru at all, just a hack.

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[newbie] linux-out to lunch

2003-11-29 Thread Mike Adolf
Sometimes linux looses it.
I added a second user using userdrake. When I tried to logon to the new 
account. I get "No Write Permission on HOME " KDE can't start.  SO, although 
the new home has the same permissions as my home,  I change the permission to 
777 on new HOME.  Tried to log on again (without rebooting), and it worked.  
I thought, OK problem solved. Wrong! After I rebooted, it got the same error, 
THE PERMISSONS WERE SET BACK TO ORIGINAL VALUES!! I repeated the chmod again 
just to make sure I wasn't nuts. I wasn't.

I opened userdrake and it had the userid = 500 and groupid = 500. BUT doing an 
ls -l on /home shows that the new home has user and group both 502 

Linux has almost defeated me!
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Re: [newbie] Looks kinda cool

2003-11-29 Thread Dan Gordon
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:23:05 -0500
JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Just for the folks who like to liven up their desktop with extra
> eye-candy:
> 
> http://www.gnomedesktop.org/article.php?sid=1265
> 
> and yes, there are Mandrake RPM's :-)
> 

Very nice indeed, I just tryed this to see how it worked and athough im
not much on Gnome it is nice stuff. Think I will stick with xfce4
though.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Unninstalling packages

2003-11-29 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 1:30 pm, Cenora wrote:
> How do I unninstall packages that were installed from the source?
>
> Thanks
>
> Thiago

If you still have the directory you used to compile the source then you can 
usually do
'make uninstall'

If you did not save the directory then you will have to go and find the files 
and delete them by hand :-(

That is why I always use 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install'
Checkinstall will turn the source into an RPM package which can easily be 
removed at a later date.

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update/urpmi.setup?

2003-11-29 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Saturday 29 November 2003 7:57 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
> Hi again Derek.
>
> On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 17:51, Derek Jennings wrote:
> > te in Linux is mouse highlight/wheel click
> >
> > > Note: If you do not want to use the command line install the
> > > urpmi.update package from your CDs using the Mandrake Software manager.
> > > Then run urpmi.update and a nice little GUI will guide you through
> > > adding sources.
> >
> > Drat. I should have said 'urpmi.setup'
> >
> > Sorry
> > derek
>
> I installed urpmi.setup but can find no way to run it. I tried typing it
> into a run field and I get the message "unknown host, urpmi.setup".
>
> I found it listed in /usr/sbin following installation so I assume it is
> installed. The info on the icon there says it is a pearl program but I
> can find no way of running it.
> Should it have been added to my desktop or menu?
>
> In any event, how do I go about running urpmi.setup once it's installed?
>
> Thanks again!
>
> LTR  }}:{(
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I thought the last time I installed this app for someone that it put an entry 
in the menu, but I may be mistaken.

In a terminal, as super user:

urpmi.setup 

should get you started.

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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-29 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Saturday 29 November 2003 4:20 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:

> CG  Charlie:
> CG  Six of one, half dozen of the other. Either way, I find the spaces make
> it a CG  bit more intelligible. BTW, did you intend to suggest a connection
> between me CG  and a bat?
> CG  -- cmg (who will stick with > for the time being)

No it's just that K-Mail isn't all that bright yet. (-;

I don't know why I haven't changed it back to just the > yet myself, I don't 
want to pretend to be running any proprietary software. No matter how good 
people say it is. 

The name bothers me; "The Bat!"??? For an e-mail client? Yeah, riight.

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Re: [newbie] OT: need advice on notebook

2003-11-29 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 29 November 2003 10:31 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> Thanks Greg,
> I will look into those hints when doing the research.
> I'm very surprised by Adolfo's case though. Because, frankly speaking I
> have Toshiba in my mind in the first place. About price, I thought of
> buying on the range of $1,000-1,200. $1,800-2,000 would be nice, but I
> don't think it fits in my budget right now.
>
> Well, I'll inform it when the decision's been made and the result.
>
Also, consider getting one of the live CDs and trying to boot the laptop 
you're interested in if you can.  This way you can be sure that everything 
will work with Linux.  Texstar is going to be putting out a LiveCD based on 
mandrake 9.2 soon called PCLinuxOS.  Watch pclinuxonline.com for more info.   
Also, I believe Mandrake is going to issue a live cd soon too.  Then there is 
always the old standby Knoppix.
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Re: [newbie] External editors with Kmail/Sylpheed-claws/Knode/Pan?

2003-11-29 Thread aron
On Saturday 29 November 2003 07:25 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Saturday 29 November 2003 08:33 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> > > I would like to clean that up as well.
> >
> > Unless you've got your heart set on KMail, Sylpheed does this very easily
> > by itself. Just use the delete and space keys to reformat the butchered
> > quotations, it inserts the > automatically *and* wraps the text
> > appropriately. No need for an external text editor.
>
> Kmail can do this too, just turn on smart quoting in the composer settings.
>
> > I'm a Virgo too, so I know whatcha mean! Drives me nuts...
> >
> > Probably the reason you see so many people on here using Sylpheed is that
> > it is an absolute killer for features, without being bloatware like
> > Evolution. Custom actions, automatic quoting by selecting the text you
> > want to reply to and hitting "reply"...I think you'd find yourself
> > way more
>
> In kmail, just highlight the text you want included in the reply and hit r
> or click the reply button.
>
> > satisfied than with KMail which, from what I've seen, is little more than
> > an OE substitute.
>
> Watch yourself, them's fightin' words.  Kmail is way better than OE.

Yeh but so is a Goose Quill Pen

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Re: [newbie] gaim not working

2003-11-29 Thread John Drouhard
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:35:39 +1300
anton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> My gaim just suddenly stopped connecting to msn - has any else had
> this problem? I tried with 0.73 after it failed on 0.74 but no joy. I
> am still able to connect from doze so it looks like msn is up...
> Any ideas? I had it going just before and rebooted - now (and on 
> subsequent reboots) it won't connect.
> Cheers
> Anton
> 
> 

Look at the FAQ on gaim's site. It may be an ssl problem.
See the following: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/gaim-ssl.txt

There's a fix there.

John Drouhard


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[newbie] gaim not working

2003-11-29 Thread anton
Hi all,
My gaim just suddenly stopped connecting to msn - has any else had this 
problem? I tried with 0.73 after it failed on 0.74 but no joy. I am 
still able to connect from doze so it looks like msn is up...
Any ideas? I had it going just before and rebooted - now (and on 
subsequent reboots) it won't connect.
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] OT: need advice on notebook

2003-11-29 Thread Fajar Priyanto
Thanks Greg,
I will look into those hints when doing the research.
I'm very surprised by Adolfo's case though. Because, frankly speaking I have
Toshiba in my mind in the first place. About price, I thought of buying on
the range of $1,000-1,200. $1,800-2,000 would be nice, but I don't think it
fits in my budget right now.

Well, I'll inform it when the decision's been made and the result.


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Subject: Re: [newbie] OT: need advice on notebook


> On Friday 28 November 2003 10:32 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I want to buy a notebook, but I'm not really sure because it's quite
> > expensive. I thought of buying a Pentium 4 one. Could you pls give me
> > advice on:
> > 1. Regarding the price and technology, is it the right time to buy a
> > notebook? 2. What brand and series do you suggest that work best for
Linux
> > installation? Many thanks,
> > Fajar.
> >
> You will get as many answers to this question as there are Linux users.
> Couple things to remember.
>
> 1) The Intel Centrino is nothing but a brand.  A notebook must have a
> Pentium-M processor, a Intel 855 chipset and an Intel Wireless card.  If
it
> doesn't have one of them, it can't be called Centrino.
>
> 2) The Intel wireless card does not have native Linux driver.  I works
with
> something called the driverloader from Linuxant.  This is a wrapper that
> allows you to use the XP driver in Linux.  So if you want wireless with
> built-in WiFi, do some research here.
>
> 3) The Pentium-M at 1600MHz is a faster processor than the Pentium4-M at
> 2.4MHz because it does more work per clock cycle, similar in concept to an
> AMD AthlonXP 2400+ running at 2.0GHz will beat a P4-2.4.  I have
experimented
> with this myself and found that the Mandrake 9.2 kernel compiles on my
laptop
> with a Pentium-M 1.6GHz in 230 seconds, while it takes 244 seconds on my
> desktop machie with an AthlonXP 2400+.
>
> 4) Most laptops come with winmodems.  Make sure you buy one with one
supported
> by the Linux kernel.
>
> 5) On the newest models, don't expect everything to work right out of the
box.
> You will pretty much be able to get everything to work, but there will be
> some tweaking.  For instance on my IBM T41, I had to compile a driver
module
> for my modem and my Cisco wireless card, but everything works and works
well.
>
> 6) ACPI doesn't always work well, so you may want to consider whether the
> machine still supports APM.
>
> In my opinion, the machines around $1,800-2,000 are in the sweetspot right
now
> in terms of features, etc.
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Re: [newbie] External editors with Kmail/Sylpheed-claws/Knode/Pan?

2003-11-29 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:25:05 -0500
Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Watch yourself, them's fightin' words.  Kmail is way better than OE.

LOL! Ya, I shouldn't say too much, I haven't used a K app in years...

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Re: [newbie] Menu - Install - Chaos

2003-11-29 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 29 November 2003 08:45 pm, Cenora AlemÃo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I was finding my MDK9.2 a bit slow after some installation problems
> with k3b-0.10.2. Well, I was used to do, I reinstalled it from the CD:
> thatÂs the way I solve some problems that come from apparently nowhere.
> This time, however, I got a weird result. As I changed the security level
> the first time I tried to reinstall ( I done it twice), my menu ainÂt got
> itÂs upper part now, thereÂre only the three lower normal options, but none
> of what the menudrake would be used to set. But the worst comes now - It
> remains slow!!! So, what can I do? MDK is in black and IÂm feeling blue!
>
Run update-menus -v as root and then apply all the security and bug fix 
updates to fix permanently.  What is slow BTW, K3b or the system?
 If it is taking too long to load programs, it could be that the machine is 
having trouble resolving to its own name.  What does your /etc/hosts file 
look like?

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Re: [newbie] External editors with Kmail/Sylpheed-claws/Knode/Pan?

2003-11-29 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 29 November 2003 08:33 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> > I would like to clean that up as well.
>
> Unless you've got your heart set on KMail, Sylpheed does this very easily
> by itself. Just use the delete and space keys to reformat the butchered
> quotations, it inserts the > automatically *and* wraps the text
> appropriately. No need for an external text editor.
>
Kmail can do this too, just turn on smart quoting in the composer settings.

> I'm a Virgo too, so I know whatcha mean! Drives me nuts...
>
> Probably the reason you see so many people on here using Sylpheed is that
> it is an absolute killer for features, without being bloatware like
> Evolution. Custom actions, automatic quoting by selecting the text you want
> to reply to and hitting "reply"...I think you'd find yourself way more

In kmail, just highlight the text you want included in the reply and hit r or 
click the reply button.

> satisfied than with KMail which, from what I've seen, is little more than
> an OE substitute.

Watch yourself, them's fightin' words.  Kmail is way better than OE.
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Re: [newbie] VI vs emacs [was External editors with Kmail/Sylpheed-claws/Knode/Pan?]

2003-11-29 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 29 November 2003 10:06 pm, aron wrote:
> > Anybody said vim yet?
>
> EMACS ;-)

So you want to start do you?  Time to choose your side boys and girls.  Okay, 
I'll make the first move.

VI is just so much more intuitive :-p
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Re: [newbie] External editors with Kmail/Sylpheed-claws/Knode/Pan?

2003-11-29 Thread aron
On Saturday 29 November 2003 05:53 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Saturday 29 November 2003 08:18 pm, Melissa Reese wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Hi Me,
> >
> > On Friday, November 28, 2003, at 2:48:49 PM PST, I wrote:
> > > Can anyone recommend some capable text editors that I can use as
> > > external editors with various email and news clients?
> >
> > Hmmm...no replies yet.  Can anyone give me some recommendations with
> > regards to my previous message?
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> Anybody said vim yet?
EMACS ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Linux VS Windows virus Vulnerability

2003-11-29 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Saturday 29 November 2003 08:38 pm, Russ wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> This is from a Win list. All above my head. Any truth to it?

Given that a lot of virus writers and malicious hackers are in it purely for 
the bragging rights and given that any successful mainstream virus or exploit 
on Linux systems would give much bigger bragging rights than a similar 
exploit on Windows, if it was easy to do, it would have been done.

People speaking about security and telling you how easy it is to do something 
that they have not managed to do should be proof enough that the wind that 
they are blowing is not coming out of their mouths.

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update/urpmi.setup?

2003-11-29 Thread Langsley T Russell
Hi again Derek.

On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 17:51, Derek Jennings wrote:
> te in Linux is mouse highlight/wheel click
> >
> > Note: If you do not want to use the command line install the urpmi.update
> > package from your CDs using the Mandrake Software manager.
> > Then run urpmi.update and a nice little GUI will guide you through adding
> > sources.
> >
> Drat. I should have said 'urpmi.setup'
> 
> Sorry
> derek
I installed urpmi.setup but can find no way to run it. I tried typing it
into a run field and I get the message "unknown host, urpmi.setup".

I found it listed in /usr/sbin following installation so I assume it is
installed. The info on the icon there says it is a pearl program but I
can find no way of running it.
Should it have been added to my desktop or menu? 

In any event, how do I go about running urpmi.setup once it's installed?

Thanks again!

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2 and a SMS 2662W USB NIC

2003-11-29 Thread Teilhard Knight
> On Saturday 29 November 2003 11:44 am, Teilhard Knight wrote:
> > I posed this question before and I was greatly helped by Derek. I had
> > problems in Windows XP, and two months have passed before I solved them.
> >
> > I am trying to configure a wireless internet access on a desktop
computer
> > by means of an SMS2662W USB adaptor On Mandrake 9.2.
>
> > If I go to configuration to Internet access, I can select from a list of
> > drivers, but the ones Derek suggested do not appear in 9.2.
>
> Around here, "Mandrake 9.2" is not a great description of your problem.
You
> might mention that it is about a wireless USB adapter.


Of course, sorry about that.


> Now, onto the problem. Does your usb connection see the wireless NIC? I
would
> recommend running in a root console "tail-f /var/log/messages" and then
see
> if the system is working well. You should see the USB system detect new
> hardware, and then identify it, and set it up for use. If not, you need to
> solve usb problems for it. Only after that, can you
move on.



I only had success with tail -f /var/log/messages, but the ten lines
displays do not show much. I am very inexperienced reading logs, so, I
logged out and rebooted again and copied the entire boot log. I give it to
you at the end. I do not think the adapter is recognized, but my USB printer
is, so, I must expect the USB filesysten is all right.


> A query on Google gives over 400 hits for "SMS 2662W Linux" one page tells
me
> it works with a at76c503a module (driver) which is available in Mandrake
9.2.
> You just need to pick it from the list.


I suppose you mean the list which appears when one chooses expert mode in
DrakConnect. There must be something wrong in my system, because I do not
find it. If you mean another list, please tell me as I do not know  about
it.


> Now, is it working?

Not yet.

&&&
log file
&
Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo syslogd 1.4.1: restart.

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: klogd 1.4.1, log source = /proc/kmsg
started.

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.4.22-6mdk

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo partmon: Checking if partitions have enough free
diskspace:

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: Loaded 21034 symbols from
/boot/System.map-2.4.22-6mdk.

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.4.22.

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: Loaded 482 symbols from 25 modules.

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: Linux version 2.4.22-6mdk
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2
3.3.1-2mdk)) #1 Sun Sep 7 18:11:19 EDT 2003

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: BIOS-provided physical RAM map:

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: BIOS-e820:  -
0009fc00 (usable)

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 -
000a (reserved)

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: BIOS-e820: 000f -
0010 (reserved)

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: BIOS-e820: 0010 -
1fff (usable)

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: BIOS-e820: 1fff -
1fff3000 (ACPI NVS)

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: BIOS-e820: 1fff3000 -
2000 (ACPI data)

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: BIOS-e820:  -
0001 (reserved)

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: 511MB LOWMEM available.

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: On node 0 totalpages: 131056

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: zone(0): 4096 pages.

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: zone(1): 126960 pages.

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: zone(2): 0 pages.

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: ACPI: RSDP (v000 VIA694 ) @ 0x000f76c0

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: ACPI: RSDT (v001 VIA694 AWRDACPI 0x42302e31
AWRD 0x) @ 0x1fff3000

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: ACPI: FADT (v001 VIA694 AWRDACPI 0x42302e31
AWRD 0x) @ 0x1fff3040

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: ACPI: DSDT (v001 VIA694 AWRDACPI 0x1000
MSFT 0x010c) @ 0x

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: ACPI: Vendor "VIA694" System "AWRDACPI"
Revision 0x0 has a known ACPI BIOS problem.

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: ACPI: Reason: Bogus table. This is a
non-recoverable error

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: ACPI: BIOS listed in blacklist, disabling
ACPI support

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: Building zonelist for node : 0

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro
root=2105 devfs=mount hda=ide-scsi hdh=ide-scsi acpi=ht resume=/dev/hde6
splash=silent

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: ide_setup: hda=ide-scsi

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: ide_setup: hdh=ide-scsi

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: bootsplash: silent mode.

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling.

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: Found and enabled local APIC!

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: Initializing CPU#0

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: Detected 1396.942 MHz processor.

Nov 29 18:24:17 castillo kernel: Console: colour dum

[newbie] Looks kinda cool

2003-11-29 Thread JoeHill

Just for the folks who like to liven up their desktop with extra eye-candy:

http://www.gnomedesktop.org/article.php?sid=1265

and yes, there are Mandrake RPM's :-)

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Re: [newbie] Linux VS Windows virus Vulnerability

2003-11-29 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:38:25 -0800
"Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is from a Win list. All above my head. Any truth to it?

None whatsoever.

No one with any experience in security and who has not been bought off my MS
seriously believes that Windows is *anywhere near* as secure as Linux or any of 
the Unix variants.

Whoever wrote this has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

My favourite part:

"You can hack the user's 'PATH' and plant a bunch of trojans and hope you
can sucker the user into typing 'su' "

1. How the hell could you hack the users PATH if you cannot gain access in the
first place with one of the millions of mind-blowingly trivial exploits like
MS-Blaster or other worms?

2. Notice that the writer uses the word "hope", ie. compromising a Linux system
*requires the participation of the user*, whereas the same is not true on
Windows.

For more info on this:

http://securityfocus.com/columnists/188

http://www.ccianet.org/papers/cyberinsecurity.pdf

The idea that script kiddies will find ways to exploit *nix systems as they
become more popular on the desktop is a myth, and the people that spout this
garbage usually have a serious case of "OS Envy".

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Re: [newbie] External editors with Kmail/Sylpheed-claws/Knode/Pan?

2003-11-29 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 29 November 2003 08:18 pm, Melissa Reese wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hi Me,
>
> On Friday, November 28, 2003, at 2:48:49 PM PST, I wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend some capable text editors that I can use as
> > external editors with various email and news clients?
>
> Hmmm...no replies yet.  Can anyone give me some recommendations with
> regards to my previous message?
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [newbie] testing

2003-11-29 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 9:44 pm, dfox wrote:
> Somebody scribbled about [newbie] testing
> >So I sent mail through my ISP, and they misconfigured their DNS records
> > and my mail is being ignored by newbie and expert. (No forward lookup.)
>
> Errm - not too bright. Were you getting bounce messages -- specifically
> ones that say "relaying denied" or something similar?

Not until today, five days after the first failed post. They seem to have 
disabled all the "not managed it yet but I'll keep trying" messages, so I 
only got the "that's it I'm giving up" message. The bounce gave me the ISP 
machine name and IP address required to test the DNS records.

The error was "450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname"

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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-29 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Saturday 29 November 2003 12:01 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Saturday 29 November 2003 8:49 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> > CG  On Saturday 29 November 2003 09:28 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > CG  > On Saturday 29 November 2003 09:22 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > CG  > >H.Sheesh Dark Lord, that JR looks horrible.I always thought
> > only "the CG  > > bat" H.users did that.
> > CG  > >H.
> > CG  > >H.Good luck,
> > CG  > >H.HarM
> > CG  >
> > CG  > Ya know - I just thought I'd try it to see how it felt/looked.
> > CG  >
> > CG  > Not good, eh?
> > CG
> > CG  Can you add some whitespace between the initials and the message
> > text? CG  -- cmg
> > CG
> > CG
> > CG
>
> Or is this better?
>
> I have to stop screwin' around and get some work done.
>
> One thing I dislike about Mandrake Linuxtoo many ways to customise
> _everything!_
>
> NOT.
>
> Charlie

Charlie:
Six of one, half dozen of the other. Either way, I find the spaces make it a 
bit more intelligible. BTW, did you intend to suggest a connection between me 
and a bat?
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[newbie] Real question

2003-11-29 Thread Kaj Haulrich
Having irregular working hours I sometimes watch the newsfeeds on 
line. Most of them use RealPlayer, and that's OK in Mozilla 1.4 on 
9.2. But when I just use Konqueror or Opera RealPlayer starts fine, 
the video loads, but no sound ??? - The settings are the same, of 
course.

So I guess it's some setting in Konqueror, but where ?

Ideas, anyone ?

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Re: [newbie] test

2003-11-29 Thread Eric Huff
> >But, if you look at a post from me:
> >
> >Received: from relay.pair.com (relay.pair.com [209.68.1.20])
> > by smtp1.mandrax.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 71FE613535
> > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:23:30
> > +0100
> >(CET)
> >
> >Received: from 66-215-7-95.pas-eres.charterpipeline.net (HELO
> >cuda.ehuffy.com) (66.215.7.95)
> >  by relay.pair.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 18:07:41 -
> 
> so you're at ehuffy.com which is a really a charterpipeline.et
> addr but then it gets relayed through relay.pair.com. I guess
> Mandrake would be doing the reverse DNS through relay.pair.com
> which it identifies both by canonical name and IP address - must
> have rDNS'd it at relay.pair.com and not at ehuffy.com - that's my
> guess.

Actually, my isp is charter.

My domain name (ehuffy.com) is hosted at pair.com, so i have
legitimate access to relay.pair.com.

I also recently realized i could also use smtp.ehuffy.com (which i
assume is mapped to some common pair relay, if not the same one).

What is odd to me is that the relay i use is not the same as my
address or my isp, but it gets thru.

eric

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2

2003-11-29 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 7:44 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote:
> I posed this question before and I was greatly helped by Derek. I had
> problems in Windows XP, and two months have passed before I solved them.
>
> I am trying to configure a wireless internet access on a desktop computer
> by means of an SMS2662W USB adaptor On Mandrake 9.2.
>
> Derek advised me to use one of two drivers: at76c593a or atmelwlandriver. I
> never tried them because I felt I had to fix problems in Windows before
> trying in Mandrake. I also have the drivers provided by SMC. The problem
> with this one is that I can simply do not see how the driver is called. The
> file to download is SMC2662WV2_Linux.tar.gz, and upon de-compression it
> gives the folder: SMC_USB_WIRELESS_2662W. No more references to how the
> driver is called. There are here 2 tools to configure the driver, I have
> used one and I think the driver is now ready.
>
> If I go to configuration to Internet access, I can select from a list of
> drivers, but the ones Derek suggested do not appear in 9.2.
>
> I apologize to you, Derek, because I suddenly disappeared, but I have had
> very little time to configure my computers. I would appreciate it if you
> will still help me this time.
>
> Teilhard

As it happens the at76c593a driver is included with 9.2 and it works 
beautifully. The only problem is that the atmelwlandriver is also included 
and will claim your SMS2662W first.
 The atmelwlandriver is my opinion a right pig to configure especially since 
the configuration utility is *not* included in 9.2

I have a workaround described here 
http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=19

derek

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Re: [newbie] Adding SCSI emultation to a second drive

2003-11-29 Thread Eric Huff
> Newbies own Derek Jennings has a howto for K3b that describes
> exactly what you need to do.  This is really an awesome site for
> newbies, and don't believe it when he says it's "nothing special":
> 
> http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/k3b.html

I added a link to this on the TWiki:
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/CDromsHI

Dereks site is quite *something*, i agree...

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Re: [newbie] Getting CD sources back ( was: Update Doesn't Update)

2003-11-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 10:22 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 7:39 am, Paul Harrison wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Paul Harrison wrote:
> > | Derek Jennings wrote:
> > | | On Friday 28 Nov 2003 10:30 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
> > | |
> > | |
> > | | Note: Do *not* do what it says about " urpmi.removemedia -a"
> > | | or else
> > |
> > | you will
> > |
> > | | lose your CD sources.
> > |
> > | Now this is what *I* did!  How do I put them back on?
> >
> > Please ignore me - I am in danger of becoming an annoying newbie,
> > and besides I already have broadband, therefore unneccesary!!
> >
> > Paul
>
> Well I might as well tell you anyway.
>
> Anytime someone asks this question I can never remember the command
> so I go to the newbie archives and search on urpmi.addmedia
> Thats how you do it :-)
>
>
> derek

There's a lot of info on 
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi but I'm not sure 
that repairing that damage is there.  Perhaps someone could add it?

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[newbie] testing

2003-11-29 Thread Richard Urwin
The best brains out there said "send mail through your ISP or it will be 
ignored."

So I sent mail through my ISP, and they misconfigured their DNS records and my 
mail is being ignored by newbie and expert. (No forward lookup.)

I've reconfigured postfix to send directly. If this gets through it worked.

Expect several out-of-date posts from me to hit the list sometime on 
Monday/Tuesday when Nildram support gets their fix in.

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Re: [newbie] test

2003-11-29 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 14:16, dfox wrote:
> Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] test
> >IOW, if your machine doesn't have a FQDN don't try to send mails
> >directly to the list. Use as a relay host your ISP's SMTP server.
> 
> But mine does. 'dig m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com'.
> 
> I sent a short message directly to the list with 'mail' a minute ago. If 
> that works perhaps it's an issue with kmail? 

Yes, but there is no way to get its name from a reverse lookup, i.e, its
ip address doesn't report the name 'm206-157.dsl.tsoft.com' as a valid
host hooked to it.

$ dig m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com
...
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com.IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com. 3600IN  A   198.144.206.157


Now, let's do the reverse lookup.

$ dig -x 198.144.206.15

; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> -x 198.144.206.15
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 19460
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;15.206.144.198.in-addr.arpa.   IN  PTR

;; ANSWER SECTION:
15.206.144.198.in-addr.arpa. 10747 IN   PTR external.gumbyware.com.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
206.144.198.in-addr.arpa. 10747 IN  NS  ns.tsoft.net.
206.144.198.in-addr.arpa. 10747 IN  NS  ns2.tsoft.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns.tsoft.net.   917 IN  A   198.144.192.42
ns2.tsoft.net.  917 IN  A   198.144.192.131

;; Query time: 1 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.0.254#53(192.168.0.254)
;; WHEN: Sat Nov 29 15:49:34 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 157


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[newbie] Mandrake 9.2

2003-11-29 Thread Teilhard Knight
I posed this question before and I was greatly helped by Derek. I had
problems in Windows XP, and two months have passed before I solved them.

I am trying to configure a wireless internet access on a desktop computer by
means of an SMS2662W USB adaptor On Mandrake 9.2.

Derek advised me to use one of two drivers: at76c593a or atmelwlandriver. I
never tried them because I felt I had to fix problems in Windows before
trying in Mandrake. I also have the drivers provided by SMC. The problem
with this one is that I can simply do not see how the driver is called. The
file to download is SMC2662WV2_Linux.tar.gz, and upon de-compression it
gives the folder: SMC_USB_WIRELESS_2662W. No more references to how the
driver is called. There are here 2 tools to configure the driver, I have
used one and I think the driver is now ready.

If I go to configuration to Internet access, I can select from a list of
drivers, but the ones Derek suggested do not appear in 9.2.

I apologize to you, Derek, because I suddenly disappeared, but I have had
very little time to configure my computers. I would appreciate it if you
will still help me this time.

Teilhard


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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-29 Thread Margot
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 9:50 am, Jerry Barton wrote:

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:14:29 +

Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What are you playing around for?  I finished that job almost
a year ago!   Which reminds me - what could I do with an
external Ditto tape drive that takes tapes that only Iomega
made, and only for a short time?  Someone must be able to
think of something???
Anne
if It were the internal model, the cable makes a great
extension for the floppy cable when you need to mount a floppy
up high in a tower case
But it's not.  Gotta try harder -

Anne
Disassemble.  Remove motor.  Attach 12 volt "wall wart" dc power
supply from that old atari 2600 game console (you know you have
one ) to it. Attach the pinch roller from tape drive (using a
dremel if the hole's too small or super glue if it's too big) to
the motor.  Drill small hole near outside edge of pinch roller. 
Bend a fairly stiff wire (a guitar string works well) into a long L

  |_

slide short end through pinch roller.  Disassemble a bic ballpoint
pen taking the ink tube and roller point out but leaving on the
black plastic piece that holds it.  trim to fit length of guitar
string - 1/4 inch or so.  Get out the duct tape and tape it to the
motor with the wire running through the pen (another pen, cut and
melted/molded to shape may be needed for a bracket or pieces parts
of the tape drive can come in very handy.)   Voila... homebrew
tattoo gun.  :-)


There you are, you see!  I knew it was too good to throw away!

Anne
Don't forget to let us know the URL of the website that shows the pix of 
your new tattoos!

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-29 Thread aron
On Saturday 29 November 2003 01:50 am, Jerry Barton wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:14:29 +
>
> Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > What are you playing around for?  I finished that job almost a
> > > > year ago!   Which reminds me - what could I do with an
> > > > external Ditto tape drive that takes tapes that only Iomega made,
> > > > and only for a short time?  Someone must be able to think of
> > > > something???
> > > >
> > > > Anne
> > >
> > > if It were the internal model, the cable makes a great extension
> > > for the floppy cable when you need to mount a floppy up high in a
> > > tower case
> >
> > But it's not.  Gotta try harder -
> >
> > Anne
>
> Disassemble.  Remove motor.  Attach 12 volt "wall wart" dc power supply
> from that old atari 2600 game console (you know you have one ) to
> it. Attach the pinch roller from tape drive (using a dremel if the
> hole's too small or super glue if it's too big) to the motor.  Drill
> small hole near outside edge of pinch roller.  Bend a fairly stiff wire
> (a guitar string works well) into a long L
>
>|_
>
> slide short end through pinch roller.  Disassemble a bic ballpoint pen
> taking the ink tube and roller point out but leaving on the black
> plastic piece that holds it.  trim to fit length of guitar string - 1/4
> inch or so.  Get out the duct tape and tape it to the motor with the
> wire running through the pen (another pen, cut and melted/molded to
> shape may be needed for a bracket or pieces parts of the tape drive can
> come in very handy.)   Voila... homebrew tattoo gun.  :-)

Some things man is not ment to know ;-)

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[newbie] testing

2003-11-29 Thread David E. Fox
testing rdns to see if it works here, maybe it's kmail 

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Re: [newbie] test

2003-11-29 Thread Eric Huff
> A couple of days ago Pierre Fortin made a wonderful description of
> this problem (it might have been at the expert list).
> 
> To filter spams, Mandrake makes a reverse address lookup using the
> ip of the sending server. If it can't find any registered name or
> if found name doesn't match the name of the sending server it
> rejects the mail.
> 
> IOW, if your machine doesn't have a FQDN don't try to send mails
> directly to the list. Use as a relay host your ISP's SMTP server.

I pan to add this to the mailing list page, but if someone beats me
to it, that'd be cool... :)

eric

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Re: [newbie] test

2003-11-29 Thread Eric Huff
Melissa Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've copy/pasted, below my signature here, a message I received
> directly (not via the list).  It was CC'd to the list, but I
> haven't seen it come back via the list, so I'm assuming there was
> a problem.
> 
> As you can see from the headers, it looks like it was sent via
> "sendmail".  I'm wondering if the problems David is having with
> "relaying denied" has something to do with sendmail?
> 
> Anyway, below is David's message, with complete headers.
> 
> - -- 
> Melissa

Was that the entire header, or just what shows up in you viewer? 
There's no x-loop header there, and he didn't appear to send it to
you...

eric

> 
> 
> 
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: from m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com (m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com
> [198.144.206.157])
> by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id
> hAT6RtS08075 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003
> 22:27:55 -0800 (PST)
> Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain
> [127.0.0.1])
> by m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP
> id 0139F1B93F; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:27:25 -0800 (PST)
> From: dfox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: dave's really krad linux box
> To: Melissa Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [newbie] test
> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:27:24 -0800
> User-Agent: KMail/1.5.93
> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Newbie List
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Disposition: inline
> Content-Type: text/plain;
>   charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Length: 688
> Status:   
> 
> Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] test
> 
> fajar wroet
> >> Someone said that my message can't be replied.
> >
> >Your messages are working here! :-)
> 
> I'm still finding that I'm getting relay bounces from this list -
> all posts to newbie came back with a "relaying denied" message.
> Eric can you look into it? It worked just OK yesterday, I think...
> 
> 
> -- 
> -
> --- David E. Fox  Thanks for
> letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change
> magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED]   on
> your hard
> disk.
> ---
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-29 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Saturday 29 November 2003 8:49 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> CG  On Saturday 29 November 2003 09:28 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> CG  > On Saturday 29 November 2003 09:22 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> CG  > >H.Sheesh Dark Lord, that JR looks horrible.I always thought only
> "the CG  > > bat" H.users did that.
> CG  > >H.
> CG  > >H.Good luck,
> CG  > >H.HarM
> CG  >
> CG  > Ya know - I just thought I'd try it to see how it felt/looked.
> CG  >
> CG  > Not good, eh?
> CG
> CG  Can you add some whitespace between the initials and the message text?
> CG  -- cmg
> CG
> CG
> CG

Or is this better?

I have to stop screwin' around and get some work done. 

One thing I dislike about Mandrake Linuxtoo many ways to customise 
_everything!_

NOT.

Charlie
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Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk
09:59:32 up 1 day, 18:30, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.11, 0.08
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- - David St. Hubbins, "Spinal Tap"
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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-29 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Saturday 29 November 2003 8:49 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  CG  On Saturday 29 November 2003 09:28 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
  CG  > On Saturday 29 November 2003 09:22 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
  CG  > >H.Sheesh Dark Lord, that JR looks horrible.I always thought only
 "the CG  > > bat" H.users did that.
  CG  > >H.
  CG  > >H.Good luck,
  CG  > >H.HarM
  CG  >
  CG  > Ya know - I just thought I'd try it to see how it felt/looked.
  CG  >
  CG  > Not good, eh?
  CG
  CG  Can you add some whitespace between the initials and the message text?
  CG  -- cmg

Is this OK or too much or too little?

C.
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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 9:50 am, Jerry Barton wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:14:29 +
>
> Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > What are you playing around for?  I finished that job almost
> > > > a year ago!   Which reminds me - what could I do with an
> > > > external Ditto tape drive that takes tapes that only Iomega
> > > > made, and only for a short time?  Someone must be able to
> > > > think of something???
> > > >
> > > > Anne
> > >
> > > if It were the internal model, the cable makes a great
> > > extension for the floppy cable when you need to mount a floppy
> > > up high in a tower case
> >
> > But it's not.  Gotta try harder -
> >
> > Anne
>
> Disassemble.  Remove motor.  Attach 12 volt "wall wart" dc power
> supply from that old atari 2600 game console (you know you have
> one ) to it. Attach the pinch roller from tape drive (using a
> dremel if the hole's too small or super glue if it's too big) to
> the motor.  Drill small hole near outside edge of pinch roller. 
> Bend a fairly stiff wire (a guitar string works well) into a long L
>
>|_
>
> slide short end through pinch roller.  Disassemble a bic ballpoint
> pen taking the ink tube and roller point out but leaving on the
> black plastic piece that holds it.  trim to fit length of guitar
> string - 1/4 inch or so.  Get out the duct tape and tape it to the
> motor with the wire running through the pen (another pen, cut and
> melted/molded to shape may be needed for a bracket or pieces parts
> of the tape drive can come in very handy.)   Voila... homebrew
> tattoo gun.  :-)

There you are, you see!  I knew it was too good to throw away!

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[newbie] Adding SCSI emultation to a second drive

2003-11-29 Thread Trey Sizemore
I have a CD-RW drive as well as a plain CD drive (both IDE).  When
setting up k3b for CD burning, k3b automatically enables the CD-RW for
SCSI emulation and makes the appropriate changes in /etc/fstab and
/etc/lilo.conf.

Now I want to add SCSI emulation to the CD drive so I can copy from CD
to CDRW.  From what I have gathered from searching the archives I would
need to make the following changes to these files:

-  in /etc/fstab, change /dev/hdd to /dev/scd1
-  in etc/lilo.conf add to the append line 'hdd=ide-scsi' (without the
quotes).  Then run lilo to have the change take effect.

Assuming all this is correct, would I then need to reboot in order to
see the changes and begin using the CD drive in k3b?

In input or corrections/additions are appreciated.

Also noticed that in /etc/fstab I have 2 entries for the CDRW:
/mnt/cdrom and /mnt/cdwriter.  Is it worth correcting this, and if so
which should be removed?

Thanks.

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/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/sdb1 /mnt/camera auto user,exec,iocharset=iso8859-1,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto 0 0
/dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto codepage=850,ro,user,nosuid,iocharset=iso8859-1,nodev,noauto 
0 0
/dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom2 auto codepage=850,ro,user,nosuid,iocharset=iso8859-1,nodev,noauto 
0 0
/dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/cd /mnt/cdwriter auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto 
sync,codepage=850,user,nosuid,nodev,noauto,unhide,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/sda4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,codepage=850,exec,kudzu 0 0
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
default="linux"
keytable=/boot/us.klt
prompt
nowarn
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="linux"
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off quiet"
vga=788
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="linux-nonfb"
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="failsafe"
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off failsafe"
read-only
other=/dev/fd0
label="floppy"
unsafe


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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-29 Thread Jerry Barton
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:14:29 +
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > What are you playing around for?  I finished that job almost a
> > > year ago!   Which reminds me - what could I do with an
> > > external Ditto tape drive that takes tapes that only Iomega made,
> > > and only for a short time?  Someone must be able to think of
> > > something???
> > >
> > > Anne
> >
> > if It were the internal model, the cable makes a great extension
> > for the floppy cable when you need to mount a floppy up high in a
> > tower case
> 
> But it's not.  Gotta try harder -
> 
> Anne

Disassemble.  Remove motor.  Attach 12 volt "wall wart" dc power supply
from that old atari 2600 game console (you know you have one ) to
it. Attach the pinch roller from tape drive (using a dremel if the
hole's too small or super glue if it's too big) to the motor.  Drill
small hole near outside edge of pinch roller.  Bend a fairly stiff wire
(a guitar string works well) into a long L  
   |_
slide short end through pinch roller.  Disassemble a bic ballpoint pen
taking the ink tube and roller point out but leaving on the black
plastic piece that holds it.  trim to fit length of guitar string - 1/4
inch or so.  Get out the duct tape and tape it to the motor with the
wire running through the pen (another pen, cut and melted/molded to
shape may be needed for a bracket or pieces parts of the tape drive can
come in very handy.)   Voila... homebrew tattoo gun.  :-) 

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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-29 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Saturday 29 November 2003 09:28 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Saturday 29 November 2003 09:22 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> >H.Sheesh Dark Lord, that JR looks horrible.I always thought only "the
> > bat" H.users did that.
> >H.
> >H.Good luck,
> >H.HarM
>
> Ya know - I just thought I'd try it to see how it felt/looked.
>
> Not good, eh?

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Re: [newbie] tnt2 to gefoce2

2003-11-29 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 29 November 2003 09:56 am, Drew Martin wrote:
> Hello All,
>I have just been given a 64meg GeForce to replace my old and
> flaky TNT2.Will I have any problems swapping them over?I have the Nvidia
> Drivers installed(from their web site),and had compile the kernel,to make
> them work.
>  Drew
Both of those cards use the same driver, so you should be able to just swap 
them out and go.
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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 10:03 am, et wrote:
> On Saturday 29 November 2003 02:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 9:06 am, Iván Velamazán González wrote:
> > > I've just finished a week ago backing up a lot of interesting
> > > 5,25" floppies... X-)
> > >
> > > Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > >You'd be amazed what junk some of us keep   Seriously,
> > > > though, if you're stuck for a very small HDD, Aron, mail me
> > > > off-list.  I may have finally thrown all the 100MB ones
> > > > (think I did that a couple of months ago) but I'm very likely
> > > > to have one or two 400MB ones.
> >
> > What are you playing around for?  I finished that job almost a
> > year ago!   Which reminds me - what could I do with an
> > external Ditto tape drive that takes tapes that only Iomega made,
> > and only for a short time?  Someone must be able to think of
> > something???
> >
> > Anne
>
> if It were the internal model, the cable makes a great extension
> for the floppy cable when you need to mount a floppy up high in a
> tower case

But it's not.  Gotta try harder -

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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 9:06 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> >The detection is odd, sometimes it detects correctly as usb, and
> > other times you have to tell it that it's wrong, and change it to
> > usb. Once set, though, it seems entirely stable.
> >
> >Anne
>
> Indeed, to my mind the detection software needs re-examining.
> It's "auto" is a bit erratic. Indeed , it's first choice is always,
>
> | dot  | /dev/lp0
> |blank| /dev/usb/lp0  when the device is actually /dev/usb/lp0
>
> so you select ,
>
> |dot| /dev/usb/lp0and still it manages to select
> | /dev/usb/lp1
>
> so then, one tries again doing the job "manually"
>
> it comes up
> /dev/lp0
>
> which you manually retype to /dev/usb/lp0
> but the change does not   "take"   , no matter what you do.
>
> Only way is to remove the device entirely and start again and hope
> next time it does it right.
>
Nah - none of that trying to tell it what's what.  I just kicked it 
and told it to try again, brother, until it got it right 

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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 12:59 pm, Void lon iXaarii wrote:
> H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> >
> >Paah!, since I've installed linux I lost the time and patience to
> > watch TV. There's always something to be fixed or...or to enjoy a
> > brief moment of victory when it all runs perfectly, only to
> > gather that the next version just came out;)
>
> ummm .. that doesn't seem like a good thing .. it eating up your
> time .. unless of course you enjoy it

It certainly beats what's on TV

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-29 Thread et
On Saturday 29 November 2003 02:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 9:06 am, Iván Velamazán González wrote:
> > I've just finished a week ago backing up a lot of interesting 5,25"
> > floppies... X-)
> >
> > Anne Wilson wrote:
> > >You'd be amazed what junk some of us keep   Seriously, though,
> > > if you're stuck for a very small HDD, Aron, mail me off-list.  I
> > > may have finally thrown all the 100MB ones (think I did that a
> > > couple of months ago) but I'm very likely to have one or two
> > > 400MB ones.
>
> What are you playing around for?  I finished that job almost a year
> ago!   Which reminds me - what could I do with an external Ditto
> tape drive that takes tapes that only Iomega made, and only for a
> short time?  Someone must be able to think of something???
>
> Anne

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[newbie] tnt2 to gefoce2

2003-11-29 Thread Drew Martin
Hello All,
   I have just been given a 64meg GeForce to replace my old and
flaky TNT2.Will I have any problems swapping them over?I have the Nvidia
Drivers installed(from their web site),and had compile the kernel,to make
them work.
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Re: [newbie] test

2003-11-29 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 02:48, Melissa Reese wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've copy/pasted, below my signature here, a message I received
> directly (not via the list).  It was CC'd to the list, but I haven't
> seen it come back via the list, so I'm assuming there was a problem.
> 
> As you can see from the headers, it looks like it was sent via
> "sendmail".  I'm wondering if the problems David is having with
> "relaying denied" has something to do with sendmail?
> 
> Anyway, below is David's message, with complete headers.
> 
> - -- 
> Melissa

A couple of days ago Pierre Fortin made a wonderful description of this
problem (it might have been at the expert list).

To filter spams, Mandrake makes a reverse address lookup using the ip of
the sending server. If it can't find any registered name or if found
name doesn't match the name of the sending server it rejects the mail.

IOW, if your machine doesn't have a FQDN don't try to send mails
directly to the list. Use as a relay host your ISP's SMTP server.

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 9:06 am, Iván Velamazán González wrote:
> I've just finished a week ago backing up a lot of interesting 5,25"
> floppies... X-)
>
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> >You'd be amazed what junk some of us keep   Seriously, though,
> > if you're stuck for a very small HDD, Aron, mail me off-list.  I
> > may have finally thrown all the 100MB ones (think I did that a
> > couple of months ago) but I'm very likely to have one or two
> > 400MB ones.

What are you playing around for?  I finished that job almost a year 
ago!   Which reminds me - what could I do with an external Ditto 
tape drive that takes tapes that only Iomega made, and only for a 
short time?  Someone must be able to think of something???

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Re: [newbie] OT: need advice on notebook

2003-11-29 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 09:55, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Saturday 29 November 2003 08:21 am, Adolfo Bello wrote:
> > Google for "toshiba 5005 class action" and you'll find more information
> > about this expensive desktop :-(
> 
> Adolfo, you seem bitter.

PO would describe much better how I feel about this craptop :-)

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread aron
On Friday 28 November 2003 11:52 pm, et wrote:
> On Saturday 29 November 2003 02:23 am, Lee Wiggers wrote:
> > On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:52:20 +
> >
> > Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Saturday 29 November 2003 00:32, Lee Wiggers wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > >.
> >
> > Lee
>
> I alway type up an install directions;
> get ice in glass, pour soda, order pizza with 2 toppings, call girlfriend
Ok what's her # ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 29 November 2003 09:22 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

>H.Sheesh Dark Lord, that JR looks horrible.I always thought only "the
> bat" H.users did that.
>H.
>H.Good luck,
>H.HarM

Ya know - I just thought I'd try it to see how it felt/looked.

Not good, eh?

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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-29 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 29 November 2003 15:15, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Friday 28 November 2003 05:24 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> >JRI think it's dot actually every case, sometimes it seems to detect and
> >JRset it up correctly, sometimes it mucks it up.It's hard to replicate the
> >JRcircumstances when it does it right and when it does it wrong. But I
> >JRthink there is a problem with the reliability of the detection and
> >JRsetting up.
> >JR
> >JRFor the moment it's working.Have no reason to think it will not go on
> >JRworking.
> >JR
> >JRJohn
> >JR
> >JR
>
> Glad ya got it going! :-)

Sheesh Dark Lord, that JR looks horrible.I always thought only "the bat" 
users did that.

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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 28 November 2003 05:24 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:

>JRI think it's dot actually every case, sometimes it seems to detect and
>JRset it up correctly, sometimes it mucks it up.It's hard to replicate the
>JRcircumstances when it does it right and when it does it wrong. But I
>JRthink there is a problem with the reliability of the detection and
>JRsetting up.
>JR
>JRFor the moment it's working.Have no reason to think it will not go on
>JRworking.
>JR
>JRJohn
>JR
>JR

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:05:56 +0100
"H.J.Bathoorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On my desktop I've copied the CD's to HD and use those. I didn't remove the 
> CD-sources, just unchecked them.

I already knew about the "copying CD's to HD" idea (thanks to our old friend
SK), but unchecking them in MCC, now that's a cool idea! Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-29 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:59:22 +0200
Void lon iXaarii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ummm .. that doesn't seem like a good thing .. it eating up your time .. 
> unless of course you enjoy it

At least with hacking around with Linux you might actually learn something of
value.

T.V., on the other hand, that's debatable. Since 90% of news organizations
are owned by about 5 people, you are not exactly getting a "healthy diet"  or
diversity of opinion, and news would be the only legitimate use of TV nowadays,
considering the alternative is unfunny and trite sitcoms and "reality" shows.

Once Seinfeld went off the air and the Simpsons lost Matt Groening, TV became a
wasteland, IMO.

I hear there's a new series of Dr. Who coming on the air in Britain, now *that*
I would want to watch, but the cable monopoly here in Canada either would not
offer it or would charge exorbitant rates just to get that one channel. There is
Tech TV as well, but I don't get it for the same reason.

I get all the news I need from the BBC and CBC, both of which are independant,
public, and available *online*.

With all due respect to Nietzche, "TV is dead" ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 29 November 2003 02:03, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 1:13 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> > On Friday 28 November 2003 23:53, Derek Jennings wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> > > The advantage is that I do not have to explain how to put the CD
> > > sources back again ;-)
> >
> > 
> >
> > Which brings up a rather naive question :
> >
> > Let's say a newbie leaves his original CD sources "as is" and then
> > decides to add some more, following your excellent advice, Derek.
> > Then, being on the "easy urpmi"- site, he/she -accidentally defines
> > "main" once again, this time from some mirror on the net. Now, our
> > newbie has two sources for "main".
> >
> > What happens ? - Will urpmi get confused ? - Or just spit out a
> > message like : "you idiot, why bother me with two identical
> > sources, waisting my time ? - Do you want to shuffle CD's or watch
> > the blinkenlights on your modem ?"
> >
> > Kaj Haulrich.
>
> I don't know. Want to try it and tell us?
>
> At a guess I would say it would prefer the CD sources.

In 9.1 it just showed double entries (usually with different version numbers) 
in 9.2 I'm not sure. It will offer a choice when it (urpmi) stumbles on a few 
options.

On my laptop I just uncheck the CD sources when it's hooked up on a LAN with 
an internet connection while on the road (with only gsm connection) I use the 
CD's and uncheck the others.

On my desktop I've copied the CD's to HD and use those. I didn't remove the 
CD-sources, just unchecked them.

>
> Of course your question is actually rhetorical since the CDs and 'main' are
> not actually identical.  'Main' contains the  kernel-source package which
> is not on the CDs.  (Although it is  superceded by the one in 'updates' )
>
> derek

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Re: [newbie] OT: need advice on notebook

2003-11-29 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 29 November 2003 08:21 am, Adolfo Bello wrote:
> Google for "toshiba 5005 class action" and you'll find more information
> about this expensive desktop :-(

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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-29 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 29 November 2003 13:59, Void lon iXaarii wrote:
> >Paah!, since I've installed linux I lost the time and patience to watch
> > TV. There's always something to be fixed or...or to enjoy a brief moment
> > of victory when it all runs perfectly, only to gather that the next
> > version just came out;)
> >
> >  
>
> ummm .. that doesn't seem like a good thing .. it eating up your time ..
> unless of course you enjoy it

It's my distorted view of "having fun";)

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Re: [newbie] OT: need advice on notebook

2003-11-29 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 28 November 2003 10:32 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> Dear all,
> I want to buy a notebook, but I'm not really sure because it's quite
> expensive. I thought of buying a Pentium 4 one. Could you pls give me
> advice on:
> 1. Regarding the price and technology, is it the right time to buy a
> notebook? 2. What brand and series do you suggest that work best for Linux
> installation? Many thanks,
> Fajar.
>
You will get as many answers to this question as there are Linux users.  
Couple things to remember.

1) The Intel Centrino is nothing but a brand.  A notebook must have a 
Pentium-M processor, a Intel 855 chipset and an Intel Wireless card.  If it 
doesn't have one of them, it can't be called Centrino.

2) The Intel wireless card does not have native Linux driver.  I works with 
something called the driverloader from Linuxant.  This is a wrapper that 
allows you to use the XP driver in Linux.  So if you want wireless with 
built-in WiFi, do some research here.

3) The Pentium-M at 1600MHz is a faster processor than the Pentium4-M at 
2.4MHz because it does more work per clock cycle, similar in concept to an 
AMD AthlonXP 2400+ running at 2.0GHz will beat a P4-2.4.  I have experimented 
with this myself and found that the Mandrake 9.2 kernel compiles on my laptop 
with a Pentium-M 1.6GHz in 230 seconds, while it takes 244 seconds on my 
desktop machie with an AthlonXP 2400+.

4) Most laptops come with winmodems.  Make sure you buy one with one supported 
by the Linux kernel.

5) On the newest models, don't expect everything to work right out of the box.  
You will pretty much be able to get everything to work, but there will be 
some tweaking.  For instance on my IBM T41, I had to compile a driver module 
for my modem and my Cisco wireless card, but everything works and works well.

6) ACPI doesn't always work well, so you may want to consider whether the 
machine still supports APM.

In my opinion, the machines around $1,800-2,000 are in the sweetspot right now 
in terms of features, etc.
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Re: [newbie] OT: need advice on notebook

2003-11-29 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 23:32, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> Dear all,
> I want to buy a notebook, but I'm not really sure because it's quite
> expensive. I thought of buying a Pentium 4 one.
> Could you pls give me advice on:
> 1. Regarding the price and technology, is it the right time to buy a
> notebook?
> 2. What brand and series do you suggest that work best for Linux
> installation?
> Many thanks,
> Fajar.
>  
Stay away from Toshiba. Lousy support to Linux, if any. There is a class
action regarding the 5005-S504.
http://www.kbla.com/active/case_toshiba.php

I own one of this model and this is a partial list of features:
.- Battery is dead. I mean dead. 0 seconds battery life.
.- CD/RW is almost dead. It can't write or read. It just spins (the
reason for qualifying it as "almost*).
.- The machine over heat. Good to fry eggs.

I love this nicety: the only way to setup your bios is through a Windows
applet.

Google for "toshiba 5005 class action" and you'll find more information
about this expensive desktop :-(

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Re: [newbie] knoppix

2003-11-29 Thread nday
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 00:21, deedee wrote:
> Lee Wiggers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:41:41 +
> >No, if install means tuck it in on the hd and use it every day. 
> >Hmmm, guess I wasn't asking the right question.
> >
> >Why does it just come up with a working kde desktop every time,
> >then?  Cranky laptop to 99.00 piece of junk. 
> >

> >
> >I'm not being obtuse (I don't think.). I'm waiting for the lightbulb
> >to light.
> 
> I was just reading an article on O'Reilly (http://linux.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/4323) 
> that went into a lot of detail about Knoppix. However, on the forum where I read the 
> article -- I don't remember which unfortunately (sorry about that) -- the comments 
> at the bottom by other readers indicated that the article was wrong about Knoppix 
> using kudzu for hardware detection.
> 
> According to those folks, Klaus Knopper created his own software for hardware 
> detection basing it on the Debian distribution, and it is apparently superior to 
> everything else out there.
> 
> deedee
> --
This weekend I found a case where Knoppix failed and MDK succeeded! 
I've got a test machine with set up with CD on IDE 0 primary, CDRW on
IDE 1 primary and the four hard drives on a Promise card so they become
hde through hdh.  Knoppix boots and detects the hard drives but sits a
long time trying to find a driver and finally gives up.  You can't mount
a hard drive partition.  Mandrake 9.2 detects and installs on these
drives just fine.  Klaus probably doesn't have a Promise TX133 card;
maybe they're not marketed in Europe.

I do wish MDK would make it easier to configure for dial-up internet
access when a local network also exists -- drakconnect seems almost
willfully stupid in this case, and modifying /etc/sysconfig... isn't
easy for new users.  Knoppix handles this transparently.  I guess those
of us in rural or poor inner city areas where broadband is uneconomic
for the providers to provision (I'm both, part-time) are a declining
minority.

I guess with all the permutations of hardware and environment out there
it's a miracle that anything works at all. One of the benefits of
Stalinism: the 1938 model tractor may be an inefficient and smokey
monster, but everyone knows where to kick it when it refuses to start;
nobody can keep all the spares needed to service 27 incompatible free
enterprise models.

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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-29 Thread Void lon iXaarii
H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

On Friday 28 November 2003 16:17, Void lon iXaarii wrote:
 

seems like you really have a strong opinion on this :-)

.. still .. remote is cool .. having a remote for my computer is just
awesome :) ... and now I can record Daffy duck & stuff ;)
   

Paah!, since I've installed linux I lost the time and patience to watch TV.
There's always something to be fixed or...or to enjoy a brief moment of 
victory when it all runs perfectly, only to gather that the next version just 
came out;)

 

ummm .. that doesn't seem like a good thing .. it eating up your time .. 
unless of course you enjoy it


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Re: [newbie] Thanks Mandrake+OSS+The Mandrake Lists - Please Read Mandrake

2003-11-29 Thread Void lon iXaarii
Jason Greenwood wrote:

Hi All,

Dunno if anyone from Mandrake is listening but - THANK YOU.

- Thank you for being there for my first tentative Linux steps 
somewhere around MDK 8.0
- Thank you for staying true to OSS ideals
- Thank you for being there as I got my head around the CLI (well, 
sort of, i.e. it doesn't terrify me anymore) and leaving me with a 
"true" Linux in the process
- Thank you for being there when it looked like you might go out of 
business
- Thank you for becoming so much better since 8.0
- Thank you for installing perfectly on the last 3 laptops I tried, 
despite the fact I did not verify if the hardware was supported by 
Linux first
- Thank you for supporting almost every single peripheral I have ever 
attached since 9.1 (including scanners, printers, media readers etc.)
- Thank you for taking a menagerie of OSS, choosing the best of breeds 
and bundling it into an easy to install and configure package
- Thank you for not destroying KDE
- Thank you for helping the wonderful OSS Community get the credit it 
so richly deserves
- Thank you for making it easier to create Linux converts
- Thank you for listening when I actually still had time to be a "Cooker"
- Thank you for hosting lists like expert and newbie where many 
friends have been made and experts have been quizzed for their knowlege
- Thank you for becoming so much more than just another fork of RedHat
- Thank you for making ISO's available so I and others can try before 
we buy (or join the Club)
- Thank you for staying true to Desktop Users
- Thank you for URPMI
- Thank you for the MCC
- Thank you for not being totally perfect so I actually appreciate you
- Thank you for all the other wonderful things I have forgotten and 
long since taken for granted with Mandrake.

I am an American who has been in New Zealand for over 8 years now and 
though I don't really celebrate the U.S. Thanksgiving anymore, I 
thought now was an appropriate time to send this to you.

Please everyone, feel free to add to my short list as you feel 
appropriate.

Regards,

Jason Greenwood


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web  I might think about as I really like it and have similar thoughts.


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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread et
On Saturday 29 November 2003 02:23 am, Lee Wiggers wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:52:20 +
>
> Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Saturday 29 November 2003 00:32, Lee Wiggers wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> > > Hey, I've tried every wrong way to do all this stuff.
> > >
> > > Way back in 8.2 as I recall, everything listed twice in gurpmi,
> > > anyway.  Just assumed I needed reinforcements maybe?
> >
> > 
> >
> > Maybe. Didn't seem to do any harm, though. After 9.0, the first
> > thing I did was to remove the CD sources what with having
> > broadband. Nevertheless, I constantly order my Powerpack CD's from
> >
> > Mandrake. Being no big X-mas fanatic, they come in quite handy at
> > yuletide as gifts for Microsoft-geeks. Teaches them something
> > about Darwinism.
> >
> > Kaj Haulrich.
>
> I gave a set of CD's to a friend once.  The problem, I've learned,
> is that you are then his only source of assistance.
>
> I've already been married 4 times, and prefer women as my prime
> source of aggravation.
>
> Lee
I alway type up an install directions;
get ice in glass, pour soda, order pizza with 2 toppings, call girlfriend and 
arrange company in 45 min, turn on computer, f1 (or del) to setup bios to 
start from cdrom first, insert cd labeled cd1-install, reboot computer to 
start with disk in drive, follow and read all instructions, consider the 
choice "expert' to be the equal of 'customize' in winblows, for any questions 
e-mail; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', and you will get an opinion even quicker 
than trying to contact me. after Pizza arrives, be sure to check computer to 
insert other cds as requested.


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[newbie] unoficial extra cd

2003-11-29 Thread Void lon iXaarii
 a romanian site (www.mandrakenation.ro) made a compilation of 
mandrake 9.2 rpms and put them in an iso (among others) for download .. 
I  for one am really excited not only because I liked their software 
selection (included blender, fluxbox, music software ...) but because I 
am still eagerly waiting for a distro or somethgn (hopefully mandrake 
based) which will compile into big downloadable backs (iso probably) 
huge bundles of software showing off the amoutn of software linux has .. 
I'd love to see at least 10 cds liek this ... but unfortunatelly I 
havent' been able to convince the guys who have the site to do this yet ...
  however .. until then (or I hear of something better) ... for 
your enjoyment & mine:
ftp://ftp.mandrakenation.ro/pub/Mandrake/MdkNationCDs/CD1/ISO/


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Re: [newbie] mozilla-1.4.1

2003-11-29 Thread John Richard Smith
Charles A Edwards wrote:

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:43:40 +
John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

http://www.eslrahc.com/9.2/mozilla-enigmime-1.4.1-1mdk.i586.rpm
no message, file just gets deleted,
http://www.eslrahc.com/9.2/mozilla-enigmail-1.4.1-1mdk.i586.rpm
message,http://templates.doteasy.com/ErrorPages/error404/
   

Both were 404 but they are fixed now.

%package enigmail
Summary: GPG encryption support for Mozilla
%package enigmime
Summary: Inter-process communication required for enigmail
If you use galeon at all you need to also install the rebuilt galeon rpm.

   Charles

 

Thanks, that does it.

%package  is one for my notebook.

John



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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:13:41 +
Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Let's say a newbie leaves his original CD sources "as is" and then 
> decides to add some more, following your excellent advice, Derek.
> Then, being on the "easy urpmi"- site, he/she -accidentally defines 
> "main" once again, this time from some mirror on the net. Now, our 
> newbie has two sources for "main".

It won't let you have two sources named the same. It will prompt you, IIRC, to
use urpmi.removemedia 1st.

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Re: [newbie] mozilla-1.4.1

2003-11-29 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:43:40 +
John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.eslrahc.com/9.2/mozilla-enigmime-1.4.1-1mdk.i586.rpm
> no message, file just gets deleted,
> 
> http://www.eslrahc.com/9.2/mozilla-enigmail-1.4.1-1mdk.i586.rpm
> message,http://templates.doteasy.com/ErrorPages/error404/

Both were 404 but they are fixed now.

%package enigmail
Summary: GPG encryption support for Mozilla


%package enigmime
Summary: Inter-process communication required for enigmail

If you use galeon at all you need to also install the rebuilt galeon rpm.


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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread Lee Wiggers
On> > 
> > I gave a set of CD's to a friend once.  The problem, I've
> > learned, is that you are then his only source of assistance.
> > 
> > I've already been married 4 times, and prefer women as my prime
> > source of aggravation.
> > 
> > Lee
> >
> 
> Married 4 times? Don't you ever LEARN from your mistakes? ;-)
> 
> Margot (married and divorced only twice so far...)
> 
> 
> 
> 
It's like bashing your head against the wallIt feels so good
when you quit.

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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-29 Thread John Richard Smith
Anne Wilson wrote:

The detection is odd, sometimes it detects correctly as usb, and other 
times you have to tell it that it's wrong, and change it to usb.  
Once set, though, it seems entirely stable.

Anne
 

Indeed, to my mind the detection software needs re-examining.
It's "auto" is a bit erratic. Indeed , it's first choice is always,
| dot  | /dev/lp0
|blank| /dev/usb/lp0  when the device is actually /dev/usb/lp0
so you select ,
|dot| /dev/usb/lp0and still it manages to select /dev/usb/lp1
so then, one tries again doing the job "manually"

it comes up
/dev/lp0
which you manually retype to /dev/usb/lp0
but the change does not   "take"   , no matter what you do.
Only way is to remove the device entirely and start again and hope next 
time it does it right.

The conclusion I came to was that "auto detection" doesn't really work 
as such, it's just an outright guess, based on probabilities that most 
local printers are parrallel port printers, and if not that,then usb 
printers. Well OK   , but when the user know's what port it is likely to 
be on, it ought to let you change it back to what you believe is correct 
,  and test. Trouble is it doesn't.

I'm sure I'm not the only one to of noticed this.

John

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Re: [newbie] mozilla-1.4.1

2003-11-29 Thread John Richard Smith
Charles A Edwards wrote:

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:28:35 +
John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Can you list that which constitutes a full list of mozilla-1.4.1 
   

If you are viewing the site in a browser all the mozilla rpms are
grouped together.
They begin with libnspr4 and ends with mozilla-spellchecker.

If you are worried about the dependencies just add the site as a source
and let urpmi handle them.
   Charles

 

libnspr4-1.4.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm
libnspr4-devel-1.4.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm
libnss3-1.4.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm
libnss3-devel-1.4.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm
mozilla-1.4.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm
mozilla-devel-1.4.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm
mozilla-dom-inspector-1.4.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm
mozilla-irc-1.4.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm
mozilla-js-debugger-1.4.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm
mozilla-mail-1.4.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm
mozilla-spellchecker-1.4.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm
download OK,

but two files fail,

http://www.eslrahc.com/9.2/mozilla-enigmime-1.4.1-1mdk.i586.rpm
no message, file just gets deleted,
http://www.eslrahc.com/9.2/mozilla-enigmail-1.4.1-1mdk.i586.rpm
message,http://templates.doteasy.com/ErrorPages/error404/
whatdo enigmime and enigmail do ?
enigmail= encryption ?
John

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Re: [newbie] X-Screensaver at KDE

2003-11-29 Thread Iván Velamazán González
OK, I've seen this same question is asked and answered a few days ago... 
Sorry.

Iván Velamazán González wrote:

Hi to all:

After beeing some time messing around with Gnome and KDE trying to 
decide which of them I prefer most, the only think I have decided is 
that I _HATE_ Mandrake's KDE screen savers, and I would like to use 
X-Screensaver with KDE.

Any advices about how to do it (it's not in my list of KDE screensaver 
choices)? Thanks in advance.
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Re: [newbie] Bad signatures in 9.2

2003-11-29 Thread Keith Powell
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 2:19 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:15:57 +
>
> Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You will get that error if you are not using ../base for your
> > contrib source.
> >
> > The /contrib/i586/ contains a synthesis.hdlist2.cz and
> > the rpms can be installed using such, But, it does not contain a
> > list or hdlist as does base so you get the 'invalid list'
>
> Thanks Charles,
>
> My original contrib url is
> ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586
> path to hdlist: ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
> (this was the urpmi.addmedia given by easy urpmi on plf)
> that path to hdlist was the only /base dir i could find.  So as far
> as I can tell it was reading the right hdlist.  I'll mess around with
> it and see.  I even tried updating the contrib source or using a
> different one and it still gives me that error when installing from
> contrib.  I'll report back after trying a few things.
>
> Jerry.

Thanks for the information, Charles.

I was just about to reply, when I read Jerry's reply to you. I use 
rediris, but its path to hdlist is the same as the one Jerry gave.

I too will experiment over the week-end.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread Margot
Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:52:20 +
Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Saturday 29 November 2003 00:32, Lee Wiggers wrote:



Hey, I've tried every wrong way to do all this stuff.

Way back in 8.2 as I recall, everything listed twice in gurpmi,
anyway.  Just assumed I needed reinforcements maybe?


Maybe. Didn't seem to do any harm, though. After 9.0, the first 
thing I did was to remove the CD sources what with having 
broadband. Nevertheless, I constantly order my Powerpack CD's from

Mandrake. Being no big X-mas fanatic, they come in quite handy at 
yuletide as gifts for Microsoft-geeks. Teaches them something
about Darwinism.

Kaj Haulrich.



I gave a set of CD's to a friend once.  The problem, I've learned,
is that you are then his only source of assistance.
I've already been married 4 times, and prefer women as my prime
source of aggravation.
Lee

Married 4 times? Don't you ever LEARN from your mistakes? ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread Margot
Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Friday 28 November 2003 23:53, Derek Jennings wrote:



The advantage is that I do not have to explain how to put the CD
sources back again ;-)


Which brings up a rather naive question :

Let's say a newbie leaves his original CD sources "as is" and then 
decides to add some more, following your excellent advice, Derek.
Then, being on the "easy urpmi"- site, he/she -accidentally defines 
"main" once again, this time from some mirror on the net. Now, our 
newbie has two sources for "main".

What happens ? - Will urpmi get confused ? - Or just spit out a 
message like : "you idiot, why bother me with two identical 
sources, waisting my time ? - Do you want to shuffle CD's or watch 
the blinkenlights on your modem ?"

Kaj Haulrich. 

See attached snapshot for how I've got my urpmi sources listed - I have 
the 2 official CDs from Mandrake, some online sources, and the 3 CDs 
from Linux Format mag. Only the online source for 'main' is labelled as 
'main', the CD sources have different labels. So far, urpmi seems to 
have worked intelligently and checked the CD sources first, only going 
to the online sources if I'm trying to get a package that isn't on any 
of the CDs.

Margot

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-29 Thread Iván Velamazán González
I've just finished a week ago backing up a lot of interesting 5,25" 
floppies... X-)

Anne Wilson wrote:

You'd be amazed what junk some of us keep   Seriously, though, if 
you're stuck for a very small HDD, Aron, mail me off-list.  I may 
have finally thrown all the 100MB ones (think I did that a couple of 
months ago) but I'm very likely to have one or two 400MB ones.

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[newbie] X-Screensaver at KDE

2003-11-29 Thread Iván Velamazán González
Hi to all:

After beeing some time messing around with Gnome and KDE trying to 
decide which of them I prefer most, the only think I have decided is 
that I _HATE_ Mandrake's KDE screen savers, and I would like to use 
X-Screensaver with KDE.

Any advices about how to do it (it's not in my list of KDE screensaver 
choices)? Thanks in advance.

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Re: [newbie] OT? Critical Flan in GnuPG

2003-11-29 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Friday 28 November 2003 6:25 pm, Chris wrote:
> Thought I'd pass this along.  Not sure if it applies to anyone.


You do know there was a security update uploaded late last night that covers 
this, don't you?

I believe there was also a security announcement from MandrakeSecure about it 
as well.yep:

http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKSA-2003:109

Maybe you should subscribe to the announcement service? (-;

Regards;
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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-29 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:24 am, many eyes noted that H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Friday 28 November 2003 16:17, Void lon iXaarii wrote:
> > seems like you really have a strong opinion on this :-)
> >
> > .. still .. remote is cool .. having a remote for my computer is just
> > awesome :) ... and now I can record Daffy duck & stuff ;)
>
> Paah!, since I've installed linux I lost the time and patience to watch TV.
> There's always something to be fixed or...or to enjoy a brief moment of
> victory when it all runs perfectly, only to gather that the next version
> just came out;)
>
> Good luck,
> HarM

So that's why I never watch television any more.

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 3:31 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> On Saturday 29 November 2003 02:23, Lee Wiggers wrote:
>
> 
>
> > I gave a set of CD's to a friend once.  The problem, I've
> > learned, is that you are then his only source of assistance.
> >
> > I've already been married 4 times, and prefer women as my prime
> > source of aggravation.
>
> 
>
> Same here, Lee. The solution : Give the set of CD's to a FEMALE.
>
> Kaj Haulrich.

Female slavery was outlawed a long time ago 

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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 10:32 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> >On Friday 28 Nov 2003 7:01 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> >>On Friday 28 November 2003 05:09 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
> >>>JRThen again, according to KDE-peripherals-printer,
> >>>JRkde believes my Z53 is on a port, local system-USB-USB
> >>>JRprinte~1-Lexmark Z53,
> >>>JRmaybe it is in kde  parlance, but if so the OS thinks it is on
> >>>JR/dev/usb/lp0
> >>>JRBut thern again "Pup" see's my printer as /dev/lp0 which is
> >>>wrong, JRand it should be /dev/usb/lp0 but nothing I do to alter
> >>>it here takes. JRSo I don't know ?
> >>>JR
> >>>JRJohn
> >>>JR
> >>
> >>Have you tried removing all instances of your printer, down to
> >>zero, and running printerdrake again?
> >>
> >>I did this at one point. It might help - I've seen it suggested
> >>before.
> >
> >John, are you still on 9.1?  I've set up all my printers from MCC
> >printerdrake.  For some reason yours seems to be confused as to
> >whether it is connected by parallel port or usb.  You can modify
> > the settings, including the connection, there in printerdrake. 
> > Don't forget, though, that unless you back out gracefully your
> > changes will not be saved.
> >
> >Anne
>
> No I have to fixkde print in  M9.1 before I can spare the partition
> that was where M9.0 was for M9.2.
>
> But looks like wiping the lot and starting again has done the
> trick, I think M9.1 had a bug in the detection and setup of usb
> printer port. But I guess it's old news now.
>
The detection is odd, sometimes it detects correctly as usb, and other 
times you have to tell it that it's wrong, and change it to usb.  
Once set, though, it seems entirely stable.

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Re: [newbie] Getting CD sources back ( was: Update Doesn't Update)

2003-11-29 Thread Paul Harrison
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| Derek Jennings wrote:
| | On Friday 28 Nov 2003 10:30 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
| |
|
| | Note: Do *not* do what it says about " urpmi.removemedia -a" or else
| you will
| | lose your CD sources.
|
| Now this is what *I* did!  How do I put them back on?
Please ignore me - I am in danger of becoming an annoying newbie, and
besides I already have broadband, therefore unneccesary!!
Paul
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Re: [newbie] Getting CD sources back ( was: Update Doesn't Update)

2003-11-29 Thread Paul Harrison
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Derek Jennings wrote:
| On Friday 28 Nov 2003 10:30 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
|
| Note: Do *not* do what it says about " urpmi.removemedia -a" or else
you will
| lose your CD sources.
Now this is what *I* did!  How do I put them back on?

Paul
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