date:20031209

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:56:06 -0500
Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For any who visited my site previously what was shown in Screenshot
> was only a poor demo test.
> 
> I have now gotten around to including 2 actual shots of this system.
> running 10.0 and Enlightenment-1.6.6.
> 
> My normal size is 1280x1064 but I converted the shots to 1024x768 so you
> should not have to scroll much, if at all

Okay, that one chick is some pretty freaky shit. I had no idea, Charles... ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off

2003-12-09 Thread Carroll Grigsby

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 05:57 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:

> Tuesday 09 December 2003 3:32 pm, Charlie wrote:

> > > Any opinion? Any experiences?
> > > Pls help me. Thanks.
> > > Fajar.

>>> whack again

> I think something else is the root of the problem. I've
> seen people have screaming fits when setting jumpers on Maxtor drives since
> the diagrams on their web site suck. Just be certain you slide the jumpers
> on the correct pins.
>
> Charlie

Fajar:
Another shot in the dark: Maxtor uses a number of different jumper 
configurations, and the differences between them are not always easy to 
discern (especially with these tired old eyes). In particular, Maxtor's style 
A is especially easy to get wrong way around. It has two rows of five pins 
each, with the fourth pin in the top row missing. It's easy to get top and 
bottom confused, especially if you install the jumpers before you put the 
drives in the case.

If your drives are not identical, it's possible that they could have different 
jumpering.

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Re: [newbie] VMWare accessing other Hard Drives

2003-12-09 Thread Scott Naylor

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 11:01 pm, N. B. Day wrote:
> If you have samba installed in Linux and a public samba share you should
> see it in "Network Neighborhood" in Windows; assuming you have the
> default "bridged networking" installed.

I'm not sure if I have Samba installed, but I'll check next time I go into 
VMWin98. Thanks for the tip!

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[newbie] Screenshots on my site

2003-12-09 Thread Charles A Edwards


For any who visited my site previously what was shown in Screenshot
was only a poor demo test.

I have now gotten around to including 2 actual shots of this system.
running 10.0 and Enlightenment-1.6.6.

My normal size is 1280x1064 but I converted the shots to 1024x768 so you
should not have to scroll much, if at all.


Charles

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Re: [newbie]

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Brandt

Wow that worked, thanks. Didnt know it came with the distro.
Thanks
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Subject: Re: [newbie]
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:38:45 -0500
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:10:02 +
"Martin Brandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey ive just compiled mplayer 1.0 on my Mandrake 9.2 system and i want 
to
> enable the gui.
> When i tried to do this it says i dont have GTK. I have been told i need 
the
> GTK-devel files but where can i get them?

One really easy way around all this, just:

urpmi mplayer-gui

and it will install mplayer, mplayer-gui, and everything else you need,
including skins, codecs, etc.
unless yer dead set on compiling it all yerself.

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Re: [newbie]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:10:02 +
"Martin Brandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey ive just compiled mplayer 1.0 on my Mandrake 9.2 system and i want to 
> enable the gui.
> When i tried to do this it says i dont have GTK. I have been told i need the 
> GTK-devel files but where can i get them?

One really easy way around all this, just:

urpmi mplayer-gui

and it will install mplayer, mplayer-gui, and everything else you need,
including skins, codecs, etc.

unless yer dead set on compiling it all yerself.

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Re: [newbie]

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Brandt

Hm maybe they werent the files i need, it still doesnt detect GTK maybe i 
don't even have it..
Does anyone have any other ideas?
P.S. Sorry i didnt post with a subject, im new here! : P

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Subject: Re: [newbie]
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:17:24 -0500
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:10:02 +
"Martin Brandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When i tried to do this it says i dont have GTK. I have been told i need 
the
> GTK-devel files but where can i get them?

as root, in a terminal:

urpmi libgtk+2-devel

should do it.

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Re: [newbie]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:10:02 +
"Martin Brandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> When i tried to do this it says i dont have GTK. I have been told i need the 
> GTK-devel files but where can i get them?

as root, in a terminal:

urpmi libgtk+2-devel

should do it.

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Re: [newbie] MDK9.2: Graphics works.. but what about the rest?

On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 17:01:46 -0700
Charlie Mahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The "manager" of one store was insisting that Windows had to be installed to 
> run "Linux" (pronounced incorrectly) and other fallacies. He soon shut up, 
> and hides in the back whenever I walk in to buy parts now. (-;

LOL! I wish I'd been there to see his face...

Thanks. I'm definitely gonna be bringin' MandrakeMove and Knoppix with me when I
go computer shopping. Man, I can't wait to get a new machine.

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[newbie]

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Brandt

Hey ive just compiled mplayer 1.0 on my Mandrake 9.2 system and i want to 
enable the gui.
When i tried to do this it says i dont have GTK. I have been told i need the 
GTK-devel files but where can i get them?

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] MDK9.2: Graphics works.. but what about the rest?

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Tuesday 09 December 2003 4:47 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:37:50 -0700
>
> Charlie Mahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I still think you should wander into the local dealer's shop with a
> > boot-able livecd and try it.
>
> Do you have any experience with positive/negative reactions of salespeople
> to a customer wanting to boot one of their display machines from one of
> these Live CD's?

None of the shops in town here ever argue with me about it any more. Most of 
the sales people ask for the disk after the demo. I go through more CD-Rs 
that way

I often wonder if that has anything to do with booting a brand new, no OS 
loaded system pulled out of a box. Had been assembled but no software or 
operating system was loaded. Knoppix found everything and ran fine. I've 
pulled that stunt more than once, in more than one place. 

Including Future Shop on an HP display model running Windows XP. I actually 
unplugged the hard drive on the first one of those.

The "manager" of one store was insisting that Windows had to be installed to 
run "Linux" (pronounced incorrectly) and other fallacies. He soon shut up, 
and hides in the back whenever I walk in to buy parts now. (-;

> I'm just curious about whether they would be a bit reticent to let a
> customer load "unknown" software onto thier merchandise.

Usually once they know that the livecd distribution runs from the CD and the 
memory they become very curious. Some have to be asked whether they would 
like to do business in the future, but not often.

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Re: [newbie] MDK9.2: Graphics works.. but what about the rest?

On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:37:50 -0700
Charlie Mahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I still think you should wander into the local dealer's shop with a boot-able 
> livecd and try it.

Do you have any experience with positive/negative reactions of salespeople to a
customer wanting to boot one of their display machines from one of these Live
CD's?

I'm just curious about whether they would be a bit reticent to let a customer
load "unknown" software onto thier merchandise.

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Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again

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Tuesday 09 December 2003 4:12 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:

> To open a console have you tried holding the CTRL button and striking the
> F2 button? Type "konsole" in the resulting run command box then strike the
> enter key. Or if you want to go directly to super user mode type "konsole
> --type su" and strike the enter key. It should work. Leave out the quotes
> of course.

Sorry! That should be the Alt button and F2, not Ctrl. Damn!

Good luck and sorry again.
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Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again

Langsley T Russell wrote:

The update to which I was referring is the "Mandrake Update" in the
Software Management section of Mandrake control Center.
If you have updated your sources then it has been updating all the
outstanding packages to bring things up todate with current released
packages for the entire OS. That can be big.

I've been getting notices from Mandrake virtually daily informing me of
important updates. Therefore once I got URPMI set up, I think, I thought
the first thing I should do was the update. Perhaps I was mistaken. I
know that a dial up connection isn't ideal,

Well people disagree with me, but I don't like it , though my ISP can
cut me off every 20 minutes during busy times, and alow me a couple of
hours through the night.

but it's what I've got. My
ISP is a small, local operation and very accommodating. It is nearly
unheard of to get cut off by my ISP even after 10 hours or more of
logged on time.

Ghosh, your not in the UK are you ?

Since posting my first request for help on this issue I've realized that
my main menu is now quite truncated. It has a total of 10 primary
listings or groups of listings. I don't for example have a run command
in the list. Many of the groups also have far fewer listings than
previously. The only thing listed under "Office" is "Address Books" and
"Time management". Networking now only has about four sub groups. There
is no instant messaging for example. More importantly, There is also no
listing for opening a console so doing anything from the command line is
literally impossible as far as I can see. And as I said in my first post
I have no sound. I've tried everything I can think of to get it back but
no success. All of these things combined would appear to indicate that
there are more difficulties than no OO.

It really sounds screwed up to me, I have never known things that bad.
I take it you are updating from M9.1 to latest M9.2 . or M9.2 to latest
M9.2.

Do I need to return to Easy URPMI and update the information? If so What
should I select and what should I leave unchecked?

The thing is if you are going to continue with urpmi you must update
your sources first before attempting the update itself. So that urpmi
knows what to download.

Providing I can find some way to open a console,can I continue to copy information from that site into a console with no ill effect? I guess the answer to that is no seeing as I've already managed to mess things up pretty well.

You should have a run field in kstart menu where you can type something
like kwrite to get an editor. or konsole to get a terminal, now if you
don't ever have a run field then provided you still have a home
directory you can navigate to /usr/bin and left mouse click either
kwrite or konsole that will bring them up and with those two features
there aint much you cannot do in linux one way or another.

By the way do you have MCC and KDE CC in the kstart menu.

John

/usr/bin/kwrite

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Re: [newbie] MDK9.2: Graphics works.. but what about the rest?

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Tuesday 09 December 2003 4:09 pm, Janus Sandsgaard wrote:
> On Tuesday 09 December 2003 22:50, Charlie Mahan wrote:
> > Specifically what do you want someone to say?
>
> I want somebody to say: "Yes, I run Mandrake on a ASUS P4P800-VM
> motherboard, and ...". ;-)
>
> -j

lol

To be honest I don't think I've ever used that board to assemble a system for 
anyone.

I still think you should wander into the local dealer's shop with a boot-able 
livecd and try it. You'll get more relevant information that way since you're 
the one looking at the display.

Are there any shops close at hand that would have such a unit on display? If 
not I can check around here and try the same thing, but that may take a bit 
longer since I have more to do than time to do it for the next week or so.

Add to that the fact that it would be _me_ doing the testing, not you, and you 
don't know me from Adam...I usually save the output of any commands to 
removable media (floppy, USB drive, whatever) when I do such testing for 
later analysis but I still *ain't you.*

Regards;
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Re: [newbie] MDK9.2: Graphics works.. but what about the rest?

2003-12-09 Thread Janus Sandsgaard

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 22:50, Charlie Mahan wrote:

> Specifically what do you want someone to say?

I want somebody to say: "Yes, I run Mandrake on a ASUS P4P800-VM motherboard, 
and ...". ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again

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Tuesday 09 December 2003 3:33 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
> Hello again John, and thanks for your response.
>
> I didn't think I was being ignored, rather possibly that my questions
> left people at a loss.
>
> The update to which I was referring is the "Mandrake Update" in the
> Software Management section of Mandrake control Center.

If you added update_source manually you'll have trouble. In the source manager 
remove it and OK the result, then open Mandrake Update and let it offer you 
sources, pick one and go from there. I've had to do this for three people's 
systems, I don't know why.

Strange as it seems after that you can manually edit the address to pick a 
mirror you prefer and use that. Again, I have no clue why.

> I've been getting notices from Mandrake virtually daily informing me of
> important updates. Therefore once I got URPMI set up, I think, I thought
> the first thing I should do was the update. Perhaps I was mistaken. I
> know that a dial up connection isn't ideal, but it's what I've got. My
> ISP is a small, local operation and very accommodating. It is nearly
> unheard of to get cut off by my ISP even after 10 hours or more of
> logged on time.
>
> I wasn't trying to update OO, but, OTOH, I don't really know what I was
> trying to update other than trying to keep my installation of Mandrake
> 9.2 up to date.
>
> Since posting my first request for help on this issue I've realized that
> my main menu is now quite truncated. It has a total of 10 primary
> listings or groups of listings. I don't for example have a run command
> in the list. Many of the groups also have far fewer listings than
> previously. The only thing listed under "Office" is "Address Books" and
> "Time management". Networking now only has about four sub groups. There
> is no instant messaging for example. More importantly, There is also no
> listing for opening a console so doing anything from the command line is
> literally impossible as far as I can see. And as I said in my first post
> I have no sound. I've tried everything I can think of to get it back but
> no success. All of these things combined would appear to indicate that
> there are more difficulties than no OO.

Try to fix the menu trouble before you add any more software sources.

Log into a terminal as super user and use the update-menus -nv command. Then 
do the same as user. See below for a brief how-to open a terminal when your 
menus are whacked.

OR, right click the K menu button, panel menu  and click Configure Panel. 
After you get a menu display just click save. Another case of "HUH?" but it 
seemed to work for a lady I assembled a new system for last week.  This 
is GNU/Linux, anything, no matter how weird, is possible.

> Do I need to return to Easy URPMI and update the information? If so What
> should I select and what should I leave unchecked?  Providing I can find
> some way to open a console,can I continue to copy information from that
> site into a console with no ill effect? I guess the answer to that is no
> seeing as I've already managed to mess things up pretty well.

I doubt it but you can if you like. Since urpmi doesn't seem to care how many 
sources you configure, as long as you don't try to use the same name or 
identical URLs, I don't see why not.

To open a console have you tried holding the CTRL button and striking the F2 
button? Type "konsole" in the resulting run command box then strike the enter 
key. Or if you want to go directly to super user mode type "konsole --type 
su" and strike the enter key. It should work. Leave out the quotes of course.

> Once again thanks for all the help!!
>
> LTR  }}:{(
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Good luck and sorry to butt in again.
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Re: [newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off

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Tuesday 09 December 2003 3:32 pm, Charlie wrote:

> > Any opinion? Any experiences?
> > Pls help me. Thanks.
> > Fajar.

All 4 of my internal drives, both USB enclosures, and all but 2 of the last 5 
systems I assembled, are using Maxtor drives. Most of the "upgrades" that I 
do for people as well. 

Of the lot I've only had difficulties with one of the multi drive systems, an 
older Compaq that I added 2 Maxtors on the same IDE channel. One was 
installed to replace a dead original disk. The trouble was due to defective 
drive(s) that were RMAed by Maxtor quickly and without problems.

> I don't know where, but have read something that is not good with Maxtor
> hard drives. Maybe here also google is your friend?

It's worth a shot I suppose but as stated I've never had major difficulties 
with Maxtor drives. I think something else is the root of the problem. I've 
seen people have screaming fits when setting jumpers on Maxtor drives since 
the diagrams on their web site suck. Just be certain you slide the jumpers on 
the correct pins.

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Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again

2003-12-09 Thread Margot

Langsley T Russell wrote:
Hello again John, and thanks for your response.

I didn't think I was being ignored, rather possibly that my questions
left people at a loss. 

The update to which I was referring is the "Mandrake Update" in the
Software Management section of Mandrake control Center.
I've been getting notices from Mandrake virtually daily informing me of
important updates. Therefore once I got URPMI set up, I think, I thought
the first thing I should do was the update. Perhaps I was mistaken. I
know that a dial up connection isn't ideal, but it's what I've got. My
ISP is a small, local operation and very accommodating. It is nearly
unheard of to get cut off by my ISP even after 10 hours or more of
logged on time. 

I wasn't trying to update OO, but, OTOH, I don't really know what I was
trying to update other than trying to keep my installation of Mandrake
9.2 up to date. 

Since posting my first request for help on this issue I've realized that
my main menu is now quite truncated. It has a total of 10 primary
listings or groups of listings. I don't for example have a run command
in the list. Many of the groups also have far fewer listings than
previously. The only thing listed under "Office" is "Address Books" and
"Time management". Networking now only has about four sub groups. There
is no instant messaging for example. More importantly, There is also no
listing for opening a console so doing anything from the command line is
literally impossible as far as I can see. And as I said in my first post
I have no sound. I've tried everything I can think of to get it back but
no success. All of these things combined would appear to indicate that
there are more difficulties than no OO. 

Do I need to return to Easy URPMI and update the information? If so What
should I select and what should I leave unchecked?  Providing I can find
some way to open a console,can I continue to copy information from that
site into a console with no ill effect? I guess the answer to that is no
seeing as I've already managed to mess things up pretty well.
Once again thanks for all the help!!

LTR  }}:{(
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First, go into MCC, click on Software Management, then on Software Media 
Manager. Check that you have a medium called 'updates' (without the 
quotes) and that it is enabled. If you don't have an 'updates' medium, 
get one from Easy Urpmi. If you do have one, but it hasn't been working, 
remove it and then install another from Easy Urpmi (you mustn't have two 
media with the same name, and it must be named 'updates').

Then, go into Mandrake Update. You should get a message 'Download of 
hdlist.cz from medium updates' with speed and time - mine takes about 10 
minutes on dialup.

You should then get the screen with the list of available updates, in 3 
sections: Security updates, Bugfixes updates and Normal updates. How 
many you get in each list depends on how many updates you have already 
done, and how many packages you have installed.

If there are a lot of updates, I tend to do them in batches because my 
ISP cuts me off after 2 hours - I do the Security batch first, then the 
Bugfixes, then the Normal.

I had the disappearing menu problem when I first installed 9.2, but it 
has now been fixed with one of these updates - I hope it works for you.

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Re: [newbie] VMWare accessing other Hard Drives

2003-12-09 Thread N. B. Day

On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 12:17, Scott Naylor wrote:
> I was wondering if there is any way to get VMWare installed Win98 OS's to 
> access the partitions of other Win98 OS's that aren't created by VMWare.
> 
> If not then is there any way to right files to the VMWare Win98 from linux?
> 
If you have samba installed in Linux and a public samba share you should
see it in "Network Neighborhood" in Windows; assuming you have the
default "bridged networking" installed.


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Re: [newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off

2003-12-09 Thread Charlie

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:41 am, many eyes noted that Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> The errors were:
> 1. If I set hdd #1 as master and hdd #2 as slave, BIOS only recognise hdd
> #1 2. If I set both hdd as cable select then only hdd #2 is recognised. 3.
> If I set hdd #1 as slave and hdd #2 as slave/cable select ( I know this is
> wrong), then only hdd #1 is recognised (as slave).
>
> This maxtor jumper settings really pissed me off! I don't have this kind of
> trouble if I use maxtor and seagate. Is maxtor and maxtor really can't be
> used together?
>
> Any opinion? Any experiences?
> Pls help me. Thanks.
> Fajar.

I don't know where, but have read something that is not good with Maxtor hard 
drives. Maybe here also google is your friend?

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Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again

2003-12-09 Thread Langsley T Russell

Hello again John, and thanks for your response.

I didn't think I was being ignored, rather possibly that my questions
left people at a loss. 

The update to which I was referring is the "Mandrake Update" in the
Software Management section of Mandrake control Center.

I've been getting notices from Mandrake virtually daily informing me of
important updates. Therefore once I got URPMI set up, I think, I thought
the first thing I should do was the update. Perhaps I was mistaken. I
know that a dial up connection isn't ideal, but it's what I've got. My
ISP is a small, local operation and very accommodating. It is nearly
unheard of to get cut off by my ISP even after 10 hours or more of
logged on time. 

I wasn't trying to update OO, but, OTOH, I don't really know what I was
trying to update other than trying to keep my installation of Mandrake
9.2 up to date. 

Since posting my first request for help on this issue I've realized that
my main menu is now quite truncated. It has a total of 10 primary
listings or groups of listings. I don't for example have a run command
in the list. Many of the groups also have far fewer listings than
previously. The only thing listed under "Office" is "Address Books" and
"Time management". Networking now only has about four sub groups. There
is no instant messaging for example. More importantly, There is also no
listing for opening a console so doing anything from the command line is
literally impossible as far as I can see. And as I said in my first post
I have no sound. I've tried everything I can think of to get it back but
no success. All of these things combined would appear to indicate that
there are more difficulties than no OO. 

Do I need to return to Easy URPMI and update the information? If so What
should I select and what should I leave unchecked?  Providing I can find
some way to open a console,can I continue to copy information from that
site into a console with no ill effect? I guess the answer to that is no
seeing as I've already managed to mess things up pretty well.

Once again thanks for all the help!!

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Re: [newbie] MDK9.2: Graphics works.. but what about the rest?

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Tuesday 09 December 2003 4:12 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> On Tuesday 09 December 2003 21:50, Charlie Mahan wrote:

>
> > As with all software/hardware interfaces; YMMV. Your mileage may
> > vary and you're on your own.
> >
> > There are only three certainties in life:
> >
> > 1.) S#!t happens;
> > 2.) Taxes;
> > 3.)You'll never escape alive.
>
> 
>
> I wholeheartedly agree that using Knoppix or some such is a very
> easy way to check matters before purchasing some hardware. On the
> other hand it's quite a download when on a slow connection.
> Luckily, lots of *alternate* dealers sell those CD's very cheap,
> for example
> http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/standalone/
> and
> http://www.linuxpusher.dk  (nearest place for Janus).
>
> HTH
>
> Kaj Haulrich.

Good advice Kaj. 

I probably should have suggested it myself but most of the usual suspects 
around here (shops that have display models and few that don't) already have 
the latest pclos or a recent copy of Knoppix mostly because I hand out "test" 
disks the way many people give kids candy at Halloween. (-; 

A few that are staffed by "enthusiasts" have made their own copies of MM.

Regards;
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[newbie] VMWare accessing other Hard Drives

2003-12-09 Thread Scott Naylor

I was wondering if there is any way to get VMWare installed Win98 OS's to 
access the partitions of other Win98 OS's that aren't created by VMWare.

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RE: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?

2003-12-09 Thread deedee

Melissa Reese wrote:
>Before I boot back into Mandrake to do a bit more tweaking, I'd like
>to know if there's a *simple as possible* tutorial somewhere for
>setting up Wine and installing a program into (onto?) it? The
>tutorials I've found so far seem to assume that I'm already
>comfortable with the idea of manually creating/editing configuration
>files in Linux...which I'm not.

Unfortunately, Wine is alpha software. There is a lot of documentation, but  setting 
up Wine (if it doesn't just work for you immediately) is considered an advanced Linux 
skill.

>At this point, there's just one Windows program I'd like to see if I
>can get to work under Wine (MessageCleaner). If I can get that set up
>to work in my Mandrake installation, it will, at the very least, give
>me a little extra time to get used to some of the Linux text editors
>and/or email/news clients and still be able to do a few specific
>things with certain types of text formatting/re-formatting of email
>and news group messages.

I agree with Scott. Check out http://appdb.winehq.com and see if anyone else has 
gotten MessageCleaner to work. Also, you might want to join the wine users mailing 
list and ask if anyone there has gotten it working. If someone has, they may be able 
to give you pointers on how to get yours working.

http://www.winehq.com/mailman/listinfo/wine-users

Also, start with the latest wine release which includes the latest winesetuptk. A lot 
of stuff will be immediately configured for you and give you a leg up on the process. 
The latest wine binaries for Mandrake are located at the following address.

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6241

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Re: [newbie] MDK9.2: Graphics works.. but what about the rest?

2003-12-09 Thread Kaj Haulrich

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 21:50, Charlie Mahan wrote:

> As with all software/hardware interfaces; YMMV. Your mileage may
> vary and you're on your own.
>
> There are only three certainties in life:
>
> 1.) S#!t happens;
> 2.) Taxes;
> 3.)You'll never escape alive.

I wholeheartedly agree that using Knoppix or some such is a very 
easy way to check matters before purchasing some hardware. On the 
other hand it's quite a download when on a slow connection. 
Luckily, lots of *alternate* dealers sell those CD's very cheap, 
for example
http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/standalone/ 
and
http://www.linuxpusher.dk  (nearest place for Janus).

HTH

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Re: [newbie] gotmail working yet? hotwayd is not

2003-12-09 Thread Todd Slater

On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:45:17PM +, obu wrote:
> 
> >hotwayd stopped working yesterday; is gotmail working yet? The wife
> >can't bear going to hotmail.com to read her mail!
> >
> >Todd
> My hotwayd is still working fine.

Ooops!! I went back and checked the firewall setup and I had blocked the
port. Doh! It still works.

Todd

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Re: [newbie] MDK9.2: Graphics works.. but what about the rest?

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Tuesday 09 December 2003 2:31 pm, Janus Sandsgaard wrote:
> Hi there
>
> I am buying a new PC with a "ASUS P4P800-VM" motherboard (a "all-in-one"
> with i865G chip set). In the section "Recommended hardware" for 9.2
> Mandrake writes that the i865G chip set works when it comes to graphics.
>
>   
>
> Great! But what about the rest of the features of the motherboard? Will
> everything work 100%? USB, disk controllers etc? One things is if it will
> work with Mandrake. Another thing is if perform _well_ with Linux (and bad
> support doesn't slow down read/write access to disk, ram etc). I am ready
> to install seperate cards for lan and audio, but will I then have a good
> solution?
>
> Janus

Try downloading a copy of MandrakeMove or pclinuxos to test the system you 
want to buy. Both are based on the latest Mandrake release even though both 
are sort of "late release candidate" types. 

Or a Knoppix disk will accomplish the same thing. None write anything to the 
disk unless you mount a swap partition/directory. In fact you don't even need 
a hard drive for Knoppix or pclos.

If the system boots, finds and configures the peripheral devices (ethernet or 
modem, mouse, keyboard, disk drives, USB devices, sound, etc), sets up 'net 
access and plays audio files and has clean graphics what more do you want?

Specifically what do you want someone to say? That it will work perfectly and 
you can count on that as a guarantee? I doubt even Intel would give you that 
kind of a guarantee...even on a preloaded Windows box.

As with all software/hardware interfaces; YMMV. Your mileage may vary and 
you're on your own.

There are only three certainties in life:

1.) S#!t happens;
2.) Taxes;
3.)You'll never escape alive.

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Re: [newbie] MDK9.2: Graphics works.. but what about the rest?

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 22:31, Janus Sandsgaard wrote:
> Hi there
>
> I am buying a new PC with a "ASUS P4P800-VM" motherboard (a "all-in-one"
> with i865G chip set). In the section "Recommended hardware" for 9.2
> Mandrake writes that the i865G chip set works when it comes to graphics.
>
>   
>
> Great! But what about the rest of the features of the motherboard? Will
> everything work 100%? USB, disk controllers etc? One things is if it will
> work with Mandrake. Another thing is if perform _well_ with Linux (and bad
> support doesn't slow down read/write access to disk, ram etc). I am ready
> to install seperate cards for lan and audio, but will I then have a good
> solution?
>
> Janus

Maybe others will disagree but:

These "all in one solutions" are usually bad_buys. They're expensive to 
upgrade (you'll want to, in time) and you can't even take the old components 
out to reuse them in some other box.
Buy something better or build your own if you're short on cash.

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] CD drives problem

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 22:10, Derek Jennings wrote:
> This sounds similar to the issue I have with my laptop which has a
> removable floppy drive. If the floppy drive is not plugged in , then
> anytime I browse the /mnt directory konqueror locks up while the system
> works out the floppy is not present.
>
> I get around the problem by disabling the floppy in the BIOS.
>
> derek

I'm surprised! I've got a few Thinkpads, Fujitsu's and Compaq's I've got Linux 
installed on. Never had any problems tho all of them have either removable 
floppy- or CD-drives. Not even Mulinux hiccups:)
It was only after mdk9.1 (and only Mandrake!) that my Fujitsu would freeze on 
bootup if I left the pcmcia-cdrom inserted and the pcmcia-service turned 'on' 
at boot.
That was resolved with kernel 2.4.22-21 only ---and I still don't know why.

Naturally I never enable supermount on thoseif only to save some time 
during the boot sequence.a laptop has to boot or resume fast IMO.

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[newbie] MDK9.2: Graphics works.. but what about the rest?

2003-12-09 Thread Janus Sandsgaard

Hi there

I am buying a new PC with a "ASUS P4P800-VM" motherboard (a "all-in-one" with 
i865G chip set). In the section "Recommended hardware" for 9.2 Mandrake 
writes that the i865G chip set works when it comes to graphics.



Great! But what about the rest of the features of the motherboard? Will 
everything work 100%? USB, disk controllers etc? One things is if it will 
work with Mandrake. Another thing is if perform _well_ with Linux (and bad 
support doesn't slow down read/write access to disk, ram etc). I am ready to 
install seperate cards for lan and audio, but will I then have a good 
solution?

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Re: [newbie] gotmail working yet? hotwayd is not

2003-12-09 Thread Derek Jennings

On Tuesday 09 Dec 2003 6:07 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
> hotwayd stopped working yesterday; is gotmail working yet? The wife
> can't bear going to hotmail.com to read her mail!
>
> Todd

Not yet.

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Re: [newbie] CD drives problem

2003-12-09 Thread Derek Jennings

On Tuesday 09 Dec 2003 9:02 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Tuesday 09 December 2003 21:25, Teilhard Knight wrote:
> > My computer has a DVD reader, a CD burner, and a DVD burner. Three
> > drives. My problem is that Mandrake seems to have problems reading the
> > contents of a CD (DVD) in any of the drives. Usually Konqueror feezes the
> > computer for something like 3 min, and after that it says it cannot
> > access the drive. I didn't have this problem with 9.1.
> >
> > Teilhard
>
> Sounds strange
> If it were my box, first thing I'd do is disable supermount.
> In a console as su/root type:
> "supermount -i disable" and then reboot. The rebooting isn't really
> nescesary but is the easy way out:).
>
> Then try to mount the devices on the command line and see if they can be
> read.
>
> Good luck,
> HarM

This sounds similar to the issue I have with my laptop which has a removable 
floppy drive. If the floppy drive is not plugged in , then anytime I browse 
the /mnt directory konqueror locks up while the system works out the floppy 
is not present.

I get around the problem by disabling the floppy in the BIOS.

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Re: [newbie] CD drives problem

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 21:25, Teilhard Knight wrote:
> My computer has a DVD reader, a CD burner, and a DVD burner. Three drives.
> My problem is that Mandrake seems to have problems reading the contents of
> a CD (DVD) in any of the drives. Usually Konqueror feezes the computer for
> something like 3 min, and after that it says it cannot access the drive. I
> didn't have this problem with 9.1.
>
> Teilhard

Sounds strange
If it were my box, first thing I'd do is disable supermount.
In a console as su/root type:
"supermount -i disable" and then reboot. The rebooting isn't really nescesary 
but is the easy way out:).

Then try to mount the devices on the command line and see if they can be read.

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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

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Tuesday 09 December 2003 1:33 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:

It may benefit you to have all your software sources other than the CDs on one 
mirror. I notice you added the source I posted for main but you use secsup 
for updates. Add main there instead. It probably won't matter but one never 
knows, correct?

urpmi.removemedia main

then:

urpmi.addmedia main 
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS 
with ../base/hdlist.cz

Even if nothing else, consistency is always a "Good Thing®" don't you think? 
(-:

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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

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Tuesday 09 December 2003 1:13 pm, Paul O'Rorke wrote:
> On December 9, 2003 11:50 am, Charlie Mahan wrote:
>  or ?
>
>
> OK I tried what you said, using the terminal and was successful in adding
> main as a source,  I got stuck when trying to install the kernel_source.  I
> got:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# urpmi --wget kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk

Leave out the version numbers Paul. Just:

urpmi --wget kernel-source

> http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/Mandrake/updates
>/9.2/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm

Yeah well it's there:

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS

Try this, in that su terminal run the command:

urpmi.update --wget -acf

and then try the kernel source installation command above again. Let me know?

That update command uses the wget flag 'cause a lot of times curl will fail 
and tells you nothing when it does so. Wget tries harder and "better."

 Also I added the -acf flags which means "all listed sources, clean headers, 
force update." OK?
>
> ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/kerne
>l-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm Installation failed, some files are missing:
>
> ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/./ker
>nel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm You may want to update your urpmi database
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]#
>
> Similarly when I try the GUI I get a message that the file has a missing
> signature and can't open the file even if I say to ignore the error   :-(

The update command should take care of that missing signature crapola. Is the 
kernel source the only listed update you haven't installed? RPM was updates 
recently along with a few other major 'drake utilities. I'd have a good look 
at the list in rpmdrake under the "by update availability>upgradable" heading 
after the command runs.

> I'm right back at square one

Not quite, at least you now have a valid source for things left off the 
download version due to disk space limitations. We can fix this Paul, just be 
patient with your helpers and yourself, all right?

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Re: [newbie] Sound and video

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Tuesday 09 December 2003 1:07 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote:
>
> Well, Charlie, you made it this time. I have sound now. I saw I had KMix,
> and I didn't want to download aumix because I would have two devices doing
> essentially the same (and perhaps competing). I found out that KMix had the
> master volume all the way down. After correcting that, I could have sound.
> In any case, I did all you told me to do, but I was afraid of making
> changes.

That's a hell of a note! I thought the modus operandi here was to fix things 
until they break then scream for help. Hmmm (-;

> Now, I have another problem. I have a DVD reader, a CD burner, and a DVD
> burner, none of which will play music. As a matter of fact, I cannot even
> see the contents of a music CD (I only have one, the last from Santana).
> But I'll make another post about this, and of course, if you help me will
> be great.

Yeah OK. 

NEVER try to mount an audio or video disk. By that I mean don't click the disk 
icon on the desktop, don't navigate to /mnt and try to open the device. That 
won't work. Instead pick a player and click the "Open" button. Since you're 
using KDE, Kmenu>Multimedia>Sound>Kscd. You'll have to adjust the settings to 
your liking and that's just experimentation on your part. Start clickin' 
buttons. You should be able to hear Santana if the disk is in the default cd0 
(cdrom) which in your case is probably the DVD reader. Same idea for video 
but try Xine or Mplayer first. If they won't open the DVD and play you may 
need to go to PLF and get some codecs. 

Let me know if you need help with that?

> I owe you a beer. Thanks so much.
>
> Teilhard.

MmmBEER!

It's my pleasure to help. Assuming I actually have. I'm still 'paying back' 
for what the Open Source Community has given me over the years.

Let me know when it's safe to stop CC:ing you these replies please.

Regards;
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[newbie] CD drives problem

2003-12-09 Thread Teilhard Knight

My computer has a DVD reader, a CD burner, and a DVD burner. Three drives.
My problem is that Mandrake seems to have problems reading the contents of a
CD (DVD) in any of the drives. Usually Konqueror feezes the computer for
something like 3 min, and after that it says it cannot access the drive. I
didn't have this problem with 9.1.

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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-09 Thread Paul O'Rorke

On December 9, 2003 11:50 am, Charlie Mahan wrote:
 or ?


OK I tried what you said, using the terminal and was successful in adding main 
as a source,  I got stuck when trying to install the kernel_source.  I got:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# urpmi --wget kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm
Installation failed, some files are missing:

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/./kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm
You may want to update your urpmi database
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]#

Similarly when I try the GUI I get a message that the file has a missing 
signature and can't open the file even if I say to ignore the error   :-(

I'm right back at square one

> If you're using the software manager (rpmdrake) from the Mandrake Control
> Centre just use the drop down list to show all packages by update
> availability and open the addable list. The kernel sources are there as
> well the optional kernels.
>
> Good luck some more. 
> Charlie

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Re: [newbie] Sound and video

2003-12-09 Thread Teilhard Knight

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Monday 08 December 2003 10:12 am, Teilhard Knight wrote:

> > Open Source Sound (OSS), or Alsa. Which?
>
> How do I tell?
Here goes another of those damned "Charlie" books. Sorry for length in other
words.

Your posting of the output for the command that I requested tells me what
driver you're using. ie.: snd-emu10k1 which says you have installed and are
using the proper alsa modules for your card. As am I, but mine is working
and
yours isn't so let's see what we can see.
>
>  Is artsd controlling properly, and is it set to Auto suspend after X
number
of seconds of inactivity. Mine is set for 1 second and the sound works fine.
>
> I'm afraid I do not know what is "artsd".
>
Artsd is the KDE sound server. Now you know why I asked that question. Open
the "Configure your desktop" (kde control centre) dialogue and find the
Sound
heading, then the Sound System sub-heading. There are three tabs. If you
like
I'll send you a screen shot off list to show the settings on mine since we
have the same basic card. Let me know.

> The sound is controlled by a PCI "Creative Sound Blaster Live! + 5.1".
> Onboard sound is disabled (by a jumper). The home theater is a "Cambridge
> SoundWorks DTT3500 Digital Five Satellite/Subwoofer". Funny thing is that
> one of the leads (for digital output) blinks if there is no signal to the
> amplifier, but with Mandrake, it remains solid. That leads me to think
that
> no complicated configuration is needed, and that perhaps it is only
> adjusting the volume or something like that.

Nothing unusual there. I see in another reply you have found that you needed
to install aumix. Have you? Did you then launch it (in a terminal just type
aumix and strike the enter key) and adjust the settings, then click the File
button, click the Save button then close it? If not try it.

Keep that terminal open, preferably as super user and open the Mandrake
Control centre. Find the System heading in the left column, then the
DrakXservices sub-heading in the right panel and see whether alsa is running
and whether it's set to start at boot. It should be the first item in the
alphabetical list. Next scroll down and find sound and look for the same
conditions. After being certain that both conditions are true (alsa running
and set to start at boot, sound the same settings) click the OK button.
Report the output of any error messages back to the list.

If you still have no sound; still in the Mandrake Control Centre, click
Hardware in the left column and HardDrake in the right panel. Find your
sound
card and click it. You should see, in the farthest right panel something
similar to this:
Vendor: âCreative Labs
Alternative drivers: âaudigy:emu10k1
Bus: âPCI
Bus identification: â1102:2:1102:8027
Location on the bus: â0:b:0
Description: âSB Live! (audio)
Module: âsnd-emu10k1
Media class: âMULTIMEDIA_AUDIO

Below that there are 2 buttons, one says configure module (leave that one
for
now) and the bottom one says Run config tool. Click that one. Now you'll
have
another dialogue that has an information pane and three pull down buttons,
one of which shows the driver currently being used, another says Trouble
shooting, the last says Let me pick any driver. My card is configured and
working with the default driver snd-emu10k1. So is your apparently. Click
the
trouble shooting button and follow the instructions.

> > Post the output of this shell command from a terminal as super user:
> > lspcidrake -v

> snd-emu10k1 : Creative Labs|SB Live! (audio) [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO]
> (vendor:1102 device:0002 subv:1102 subd:8061)

Same as mine, so I'm still thinking you have a volume level set to zero
somewhere. Or muted somehow. Or the cable is connected to the wrong socket.
Or the volume setting on the speakers is set to off. I did that when I first
got my Altec Lansings. Two volume controls, one on the sub, one on the left
speaker. The sub was zeroed. Oops! 

Check all the obvious (blatantly obvious?) things first and then we'll play
software roulette. (-;

I'm still CC:'ing you to be certain you get this.
>
> Thanks so much for this. I got this post of yours only as a message for
me,
> not as a post in the list. If you had replied only to the list, I wouldn't
> have got it.
>
> Also, thanks so much for taking the time to see into my problem.
>
> Teilhard.

Don't thank me unless I actually help you get sound working.  You're very
welcome.

Charlie

Well, Charlie, you made it this time. I have sound now. I saw I had KMix,
and I didn't want to download aumix because I would have two devices doing
essentially the same (and perhaps competing). I found out that KMix had the
master volume all the way down. After correcting that, I could have sound.
In any case, I did all you told me to do, but I was afraid of making
changes.

Now, I have another problem. I have a DVD reader, a CD burner, and a DVD
burner, none of which will play music. As a matter of fact, I cannot even
see the contents of a

Re: [newbie] kernel_source

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Tuesday 09 December 2003 12:29 pm, Paul O'Rorke wrote:
> On December 9, 2003 11:23 am, C. Tresenriter wrote:
> I have 1024MB RAM so I should boot to enterprise by default then?
>
It also supports multi processors and has a few other bells and whistles.

If you want to utilize all your memory you should. be aware that the 
enterprise kernels slow the system slightly due to the vagaries of memory 
addressing.

Depending on the processor there's also versions of the kernel that will 
access up to 4 GB of memory for uni-processors 
(kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm)
and up to 64 GB for P3 processors that are capable. Think XEON etc. Look in 
updates.

Addendum to my previous post:

If you're using the software manager (rpmdrake) from the Mandrake Control 
Centre just use the drop down list to show all packages by update 
availability and open the addable list. The kernel sources are there as well 
the optional kernels.

Good luck some more. 
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Re: [newbie] kernel_source(OT)

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Tuesday 09 December 2003 12:49 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Tuesday 09 December 2003 20:42, Charlie Mahan wrote:
> > 
>
> Hey Charlie,
>
> What do you use for snipping, an axe or a club? ;)
>
> Good luck,
> HarM
A broad axe HarM.  

But that was shown as a whack, not a snip. Snips are implied surgical actions. 
this one was a "Conan the Barbarian" style 'whack in a hurry.' lol

Peace my friend!
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Re: [newbie] How can I replace my deleted kernel

It booted fine.

Only thing is I like the boot script full width of the screen and 
that gui squashes it up
too much for my taste.Is that what lba32 does to it , as in,

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=791
default=91-2.4.21.0
keytable=/boot/uk.klt
lba32
prompt
nowarn
timeout=200
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
ignore-table
or is it something else.

John

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[newbie] gotmail working yet? hotwayd is not

2003-12-09 Thread Todd Slater

hotwayd stopped working yesterday; is gotmail working yet? The wife
can't bear going to hotmail.com to read her mail!

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Re: [newbie] gtk debugging libraries

2003-12-09 Thread Dimitar Haralanov

On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:27:22 -0800
Dimitar Haralanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:03:31 +
> Jerry Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > glibc-debug 
> 
>   Thank you for the hint, but I am looking for GTK debugging
>   libraries
> not glibc.

So I take it by the silence on this, that there are no such libraries?

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Re: [newbie] How can I replace my deleted kernel

Tom Brinkman wrote:

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 03:27 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Tom, will my nvidia drivers be there as well ?
or will I have ro reinstall them as well ?
John
   

I don't use 'em. Tho I have a GeF4, I use the XFree driver, 
better 2d performance no imported bug/security/licensing/kernel 
worries. BTW, there's an interesting thread concerning (nVidia's) 
binary only modules and the GPL kernel going on at lkml.

Well I tend to agree, but just as soon as they add tvout to the basic 
linux kernel I won't bother any more.That's the only reason I install 
nvidia kernels
I'm think though it won't matter,
I installed various test kernel and didn't have to reinstall nvidia 
kernels with them,so I'm guessing that I don't have to on this occassion 
either.
I also note the source kernel i just finished downloading won't 
complile  something about a binary package it didn't like, pound to a 
penny it's nvidia it didn't like to break.

   To answer your question tho, any time you change kernels you 
risk breaking binary only proprietary modules, drivers and 
applications of any sort.  So the answer is yes, particularly 
with nVidia's modules.

As a matter of pure interest what vid card do you like best ?

Anyway I'm going for a reboot eny moment.

John

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Re: [newbie] where are my messages???

2003-12-09 Thread Raffaele Belardi

Maybe mozilla's junk controls are turned on? Did 1.3 _have_ junk control?

raffaele

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I have just spent 15 minutes connected to te net to download my 147
messages of which I was expecting an important reply on one of the
earlier sent ones.
When I click on Inbox under Mozilla 1.3 it gives me no unread messages
and even if I look at the subfolders I have creatred I cannot see the
emails received.
Hopefully I can read the reply!!

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[newbie] where are my messages???

2003-12-09 Thread Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)

I have just spent 15 minutes connected to te net to download my 147
messages of which I was expecting an important reply on one of the
earlier sent ones.
When I click on Inbox under Mozilla 1.3 it gives me no unread messages
and even if I look at the subfolders I have creatred I cannot see the
emails received.
Hopefully I can read the reply!!

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Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again

sorry i maybe misst youre original post...

but let's do some thing about

you said that the problem begans after a update
process right...???

have you note that the urpmi had a bug and must be
updated by hand...???  the rpm manager was closing
wrong the data base so it causes the links
desapear

you must update this pakage by hand... unfortunately i
can't find the one you need maybe some one else can 

Cdrack.

--- Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All.
> 
> Having gotten no response to my original posting on
> this subject I'm
> left to wonder if I have simply totally messed up my
> current install of
> Mandrake 9.2 with my attempts to run update and
> therefore must simply
> reinstall? Or perhaps my questions were just too
> ignorant of the issues
> involved to be addressable in this forum. If that is
> the case, where can
> I turn? Somehow or other I must get Mandrake running
> properly. It is
> unusable for much of anything but email and web
> surfing at this point.
> Why Evolution and Mozilla are still working I have
> no idea. Obviously
> I'm in need of a lot of help! 
> 
> For anyone who might have some helpful advice, below
> is the complete
> text of my original post asking for help with this. 
> 
> Thanks again for all the help and patience. 
> 
> On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 18:58, Langsley T Russell
> wrote:
> > Hi all. I finally managed to update my mandrake
> 9.2 yesterday. I tried
> > deleting the lock file from the /var/lib/urpmi
> file as directed by
> > Derek, but was denied permission. So I thought I
> would change the
> > permissions and then delete the lock file. After
> adding the permission
> > to the /var/lib/urpmi directory I was able to
> download the update files
> > without even deleting the lock file. Should I
> still delete the lock
> > file? It took about 3 hours on my dial up
> connection to download the
> > updates but it went without a hitch, I thought.
> KMail has likewise
> > apparently been obliterated. 
> > 
> > When I booted up today I found that I no longer
> have the icons for any
> > of the OO.o programs in my kicker/panel. In there
> place are several gear
> > icons leading to nonexistent directories/files.I
> checked the "Office"
> > heading on my main menu and there is no sign of
> OO.o there either. What
> > did I do wrong? What must I do to get my OO.o
> programs back?
> > 
> > I also now find that I have 20+ Gzip files
> (actually they are packages) in my /var/lib/urpmi
> > directory. Should I do something with these? Are
> they even supposed to
> > be there?
> > 
> > I also now have about 30 text and XML files and
> about 24 directories in
> > my home directory Which weren't there previously.
> Is this expected? 
> > 
> > Should I remove the added permission
> for/var/lib/urpmi? 
> > 
> > Also I no longer have any sound. 
> > 
> > Any and all suggestions will be greatly
> appreciated.
> 
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Re: [newbie] How can I replace my deleted kernel

2003-12-09 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 03:27 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Tom, will my nvidia drivers be there as well ?
> or will I have ro reinstall them as well ?
>
> John

 I don't use 'em. Tho I have a GeF4, I use the XFree driver, 
better 2d performance no imported bug/security/licensing/kernel 
worries. BTW, there's an interesting thread concerning (nVidia's) 
binary only modules and the GPL kernel going on at lkml.

To answer your question tho, any time you change kernels you 
risk breaking binary only proprietary modules, drivers and 
applications of any sort.  So the answer is yes, particularly 
with nVidia's modules.
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Re: [newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again



Langsley,
I'm sure you are not being ignored.
I for one am not sure what you were trying to do with urpmi,
You talk about updating, but what ?
Updating the entire OS , or just OO
I would not even attempt an urpmi update of an entire OS with nothing 
but a dialup modem
It's just too slow, my ISP will cut me off, you have to start again, and 
things just get messed up.

If you feel that your ISP will not cut you off at some particular time 
of day , say late at night, then a urpmi update of say kde, or mozilla 
or OO , is fine. But an entire OS, I wouldn't even try it . Personally I 
would try to suss out what packages you need and use a download 
programme to download the packages to a safe directory and then proceed 
to install them manually. Other folk disagree with me, they use urpmi 
all the time, but I don't.

It seems to me you have gotten some broken download going on for you, 
therefore maybe it is recoverable, I just don't know,

I should try to describe your current situation and see if the list can 
help you retrieve the situation, if at the end of the day it's not easy 
enought to make amends, it's a reinstall, but all I can say is linux 
goes a long way before it's all up to that final option.

John



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Re: [newbie] How can I replace my deleted kernel

2003-12-09 Thread robin

John Richard Smith wrote:
Tom Brinkman wrote:

I think you've got it fixed, tho I would'a used 'rpm -ivh --force 
kernel-2.4.21-0.13mdk..rpm'  The addition of force would insure that 
all the needed files and dirs for the kernel are replaced.  You can 
still do it, and I suggest you do.  This is about the only proper use 
of --force, ie, to replace files and packages for existing packages, 
in this case the kernel.  (see 'man rpm').

   If you're worried that this kernel won't boot, as already 
suggested, just install the updated kernel along side the old. Then 
you'll have two to boot to.   You really should be usin the updated 
kernel anyhow

Thanks Tom, I knew you would know.
I'm going to do both, seems sensible.
Just waiting for my slow coach download to complete ,
it's  a 35 MB kernel source kernel, the only one I could find.
Tom, will my nvidia drivers be there as well ?
or will I have ro reinstall them as well ?


You'll probably need to reinstall the kernel module.  As a precaution, 
before rebooting I'd back up the XF86Congig-4 file, then edit your 
current one back to its original, non-nvidia state.  Then reboot using 
the non-nvidia configuration.  If that's working OK, try with the nvidia 
config file.

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Re: [newbie] Complete failure (Now completely OT)

2003-12-09 Thread magnet

On Monday 08 Dec 2003 7:18 pm, Alan Dunford wrote:
> On Monday 08 Dec 2003 6:43 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:
> > On Monday 08 Dec 2003 8:19 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
> > > UK domestic is 240v can vary between 230/250 v(meaning it's allowed)
> > > but I have never experienced in my lifetime much variation from 240v
> > > 50cycles/min.
>
> Cycles per second ?

Ewww, that answer hertz ;-)


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[newbie] Update Blew Away OO.o Again

2003-12-09 Thread Langsley T Russell

Hi All.

Having gotten no response to my original posting on this subject I'm
left to wonder if I have simply totally messed up my current install of
Mandrake 9.2 with my attempts to run update and therefore must simply
reinstall? Or perhaps my questions were just too ignorant of the issues
involved to be addressable in this forum. If that is the case, where can
I turn? Somehow or other I must get Mandrake running properly. It is
unusable for much of anything but email and web surfing at this point.
Why Evolution and Mozilla are still working I have no idea. Obviously
I'm in need of a lot of help! 

For anyone who might have some helpful advice, below is the complete
text of my original post asking for help with this. 

Thanks again for all the help and patience. 

On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 18:58, Langsley T Russell wrote:
> Hi all. I finally managed to update my mandrake 9.2 yesterday. I tried
> deleting the lock file from the /var/lib/urpmi file as directed by
> Derek, but was denied permission. So I thought I would change the
> permissions and then delete the lock file. After adding the permission
> to the /var/lib/urpmi directory I was able to download the update files
> without even deleting the lock file. Should I still delete the lock
> file? It took about 3 hours on my dial up connection to download the
> updates but it went without a hitch, I thought. KMail has likewise
> apparently been obliterated. 
> 
> When I booted up today I found that I no longer have the icons for any
> of the OO.o programs in my kicker/panel. In there place are several gear
> icons leading to nonexistent directories/files.I checked the "Office"
> heading on my main menu and there is no sign of OO.o there either. What
> did I do wrong? What must I do to get my OO.o programs back?
> 
> I also now find that I have 20+ Gzip files (actually they are packages) in my 
> /var/lib/urpmi
> directory. Should I do something with these? Are they even supposed to
> be there?
> 
> I also now have about 30 text and XML files and about 24 directories in
> my home directory Which weren't there previously. Is this expected? 
> 
> Should I remove the added permission for/var/lib/urpmi? 
> 
> Also I no longer have any sound. 
> 
> Any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

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RE: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-09 Thread Tango Echo

>-Original Message-
>From: Lanman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 7:44 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [newbie] I'm baaak!
>
>
>Well Gang ! After a short hiatus while I dumped a
crappy ISP, 
>I'm back and ready to,..um, ...er,.. read emails, 

Welcome back Lanman!  Glad to see you again =)

Just now catching up w/list...


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Re: [newbie] How can I replace my deleted kernel

Tom Brinkman wrote:

I think you've got it fixed, tho I would'a used 
'rpm -ivh --force kernel-2.4.21-0.13mdk..rpm'  The addition of 
force would insure that all the needed files and dirs for the 
kernel are replaced.  You can still do it, and I suggest you do.  
This is about the only proper use of --force, ie, to replace 
files and packages for existing packages, in this case the 
kernel.  (see 'man rpm').

   If you're worried that this kernel won't boot, as already 
suggested, just install the updated kernel along side the old. 
Then you'll have two to boot to.   You really should be usin the 
updated kernel anyhow

Thanks Tom, I knew you would know.
I'm going to do both, seems sensible.
Just waiting for my slow coach download to complete ,
it's  a 35 MB kernel source kernel, the only one I could find.
Tom, will my nvidia drivers be there as well ?
or will I have ro reinstall them as well ?
John

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Re: [newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off

Fajar Priyanto wrote:

Dear all,
I'm almost frustated.
I tried to add a primary slave hdd into the system, but it didn't 
work. The BIOS failed to recognise the drive.
Both primary master and slave are maxtors.
 
I've double checked the jumper setting and I'm sure I did it right. 
http://maxtor.com/en/documentation/installation_guides/ata_installation_guide.pdf
 
The errors were:
1. If I set hdd #1 as master and hdd #2 as slave, BIOS only recognise 
hdd #1
2. If I set both hdd as cable select then only hdd #2 is recognised.
3. If I set hdd #1 as slave and hdd #2 as slave/cable select ( I know 
this is wrong), then only hdd #1 is recognised (as slave).
 
This maxtor jumper settings really pissed me off! I don't have this 
kind of trouble if I use maxtor and seagate. Is maxtor and maxtor 
really can't be used together?
No, your've done something wrong, or rather not completed something,

First , you have your drives master/slave on the same ide line, are you  
sure ?
those tiny litle diagrams on the drive can be difficult to interpret 
sometimes.
I generally don't use cable select, but if you do make sure both are 
cable select.
Otherwise each must be correctly set either master or slave.

then go into bios and tell it to look for both , they should be 
autodetected and established as devices with nown parameters , then reboot.

The only other concern I can think of is, you haven't got some monster 
sized HD ?
I think mandrake lernels may still have limitations ?

John

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Re: [newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off

hey i don't think that's a contact mather.

The maxtors harddrives are a litle self exlcludent
thats why you can only see one of them at any
configuration you use... i recommend you use separated
ide cables for each one and you will see them work
fine... try this before doing some thing else with the
jumpers...


Cdrack.

--- "N. B. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 07:41, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I'm almost frustated.
> > I tried to add a primary slave hdd into the
> system, but it didn't
> > work. The BIOS failed to recognise the drive.
> > Both primary master and slave are maxtors.
> >  
> > I've double checked the jumper setting and I'm
> sure I did it right.
> >
>
http://maxtor.com/en/documentation/installation_guides/ata_installation_guide.pdf
> >  
> > The errors were:
> > 1. If I set hdd #1 as master and hdd #2 as slave,
> BIOS only recognise
> > hdd #1
> > 2. If I set both hdd as cable select then only hdd
> #2 is recognised.
> > 3. If I set hdd #1 as slave and hdd #2 as
> slave/cable select ( I know
> > this is wrong), then only hdd #1 is recognised (as
> slave).
> >  
> > This maxtor jumper settings really pissed me off!
> I don't have this
> > kind of trouble if I use maxtor and seagate. Is
> maxtor and maxtor
> > really can't be used together?
> >  
> > Any opinion? Any experiences?
> > Pls help me. Thanks.
> > Fajar.
> >  
> 
> Fajar,
> 
> I've had this trouble and the problem turned out to
> be that one of the
> jumper blocks wasn't making good contact with the
> pins.  Verify that
> there is actually some _metal_ in the plastic
> jumper, or better yet, get
> some new jumper blocks.
> 
> -- 
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> Physics Department, University of New Orleans
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] How can I replace my deleted kernel

Adolfo A. Bello B. wrote:

 

Make sure you don't have any broken symlink in /boot and that they are
pointing to the right file.
If every symlink is right, my guess is that you will boot without
problem.
Adolfo

 

I don't think the symlinks will be  that important to me because I 
always specify precisely which v/linuz/initrd version to boot from, 
never leave it to chance as far as lilo.conf boot scripts are concerned.

here is what /sbin/lilo  thinks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# /sbin/lilo
Added 91-2.4.21.0 *
Added 91-failsafe
Added 91-nonfb
Added 90-2.4,19-16
Added 90-nonfb
Added 90-failsafe
Added W2000
Added floppy
Added 2421-13
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#
I see it's added one stanza at the end
"Added 2421-13"  is new  the rest is the same as before except,
lba32the 7th line down from the top, not sure what this does ?

Anyhow I think the boot script is OK, it should boot off it .

The question still remaining in my mind is,
Will my nvidia drivers be there ?
do they get installed in vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
or are they stored some place else ?
I don't know ?
Anyone know ?

John

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Re: [newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off

2003-12-09 Thread N. B. Day

On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 07:41, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> Dear all,
> I'm almost frustated.
> I tried to add a primary slave hdd into the system, but it didn't
> work. The BIOS failed to recognise the drive.
> Both primary master and slave are maxtors.
>  
> I've double checked the jumper setting and I'm sure I did it right.
> http://maxtor.com/en/documentation/installation_guides/ata_installation_guide.pdf
>  
> The errors were:
> 1. If I set hdd #1 as master and hdd #2 as slave, BIOS only recognise
> hdd #1
> 2. If I set both hdd as cable select then only hdd #2 is recognised.
> 3. If I set hdd #1 as slave and hdd #2 as slave/cable select ( I know
> this is wrong), then only hdd #1 is recognised (as slave).
>  
> This maxtor jumper settings really pissed me off! I don't have this
> kind of trouble if I use maxtor and seagate. Is maxtor and maxtor
> really can't be used together?
>  
> Any opinion? Any experiences?
> Pls help me. Thanks.
> Fajar.
>  

Fajar,

I've had this trouble and the problem turned out to be that one of the
jumper blocks wasn't making good contact with the pins.  Verify that
there is actually some _metal_ in the plastic jumper, or better yet, get
some new jumper blocks.

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Re: [newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off

2003-12-09 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 01:41 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> Dear all,
> I'm almost frustated.
> I tried to add a primary slave hdd into the system, but it
> didn't work. The BIOS failed to recognise the drive. Both
> primary master and slave are maxtors.
>
> I've double checked the jumper setting and I'm sure I did it
> right.
> http://maxtor.com/en/documentation/installation_guides/ata_inst
>allation_guide.pdf
>
> The errors were:
> 1. If I set hdd #1 as master and hdd #2 as slave, BIOS only
> recognise hdd #1 2. If I set both hdd as cable select then only
> hdd #2 is recognised. 3. If I set hdd #1 as slave and hdd #2 as
> slave/cable select ( I know this is wrong), then only hdd #1 is
> recognised (as slave).
>
> This maxtor jumper settings really pissed me off! I don't have
> this kind of trouble if I use maxtor and seagate. Is maxtor and
> maxtor really can't be used together?
>
> Any opinion? Any experiences?

 Absolutely don't use cable select.  Check the jumpers again. 
If you're positive they're set correctly, then it could still be 
the motherboard, the IDE cable, and position on the cable. It 
should always be that master is on the end of the cable.

Mobo connector--slave--master

    and make sure pin 1 on the cable is alligned with pin 1 on 
the drive(s). It's difficult to get it wrong at the mobo end, but 
it can often easily be reversed at the drive connection. Maxtor/ 
Maxtor works just fine, that's my setup.
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[newbie] Not booting

2003-12-09 Thread Yves Arsenault


Hello,

This morning my Mandrake 9 box was not responding to my login through SSH or
locally.

I had logged in my FTP server and also the few small websites that are
hosted on it were working.

I needed to make a few changes to a site, so I needed access. After trying
to log in nothing.

So after rebooting manually the boot process stops at loading devfs daemon.
It just hangs there, forever.

Is there anything that I could change or look for?
I've booted the box with Knoppix and took a look for the devfs.conf file,
but in that file I don't quite know what to try.

Anyone have any clues??

Help is much appreciated.

Thanks,

Yves


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Re: [newbie] How can I replace my deleted kernel

2003-12-09 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 12:33 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:

> I Hadn't thought of that, a bit obvious really.
> So I decided, what have I got to loose.
> but instead, I decided to try installing the original
> kernel-2.4.21-0.13mdk off the discs. sure enough it installed
> something.
> ls - /boot
>
> vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
>
> there it is, back again, but will it work , I don't know,
> I mean originally on first install it had to do a complicated
> device scan and choose options to build into the kernel so
> that what you are left with is a synthesis of the original
> kernel built to your hardware needs, so how does it know
> how to do this again, without going through all the same old
> device scan proceedure ?
> Or perhaps it does,unseen behind the install script ?
>
> At the moment I'm of the mind set that I only get the one
> chance to reboot, the old kernel is in memory now, but if
> things are not right no chance to replace.
> Any one know if it will work ?

 I think you've got it fixed, tho I would'a used 
'rpm -ivh --force kernel-2.4.21-0.13mdk..rpm'  The addition of 
force would insure that all the needed files and dirs for the 
kernel are replaced.  You can still do it, and I suggest you do.  
This is about the only proper use of --force, ie, to replace 
files and packages for existing packages, in this case the 
kernel.  (see 'man rpm').

If you're worried that this kernel won't boot, as already 
suggested, just install the updated kernel along side the old. 
Then you'll have two to boot to.   You really should be usin the 
updated kernel anyhow.
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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 15:25, Paul O'Rorke wrote:
> Hi I'm trying to install the kernel_source so I can run the NVIDIA driver,
> but when I try to use the Mandrake 9.2 software installer I get a message
> that the rpm has a missing signature, could not open file.  It doesn't seem
> to matter where I get the package from, Mandrake_Updates, elsewhere - same
> result.  I found a package from rpmfind.net, but when I ran the NVIDIA
> installer it complains that it is the wrong source as nvidia isn't
> mentioned. What exactly is the signature and is the problem at my end?
>
> Also wondering why I can (and did) install the updated the kernel to
> 2.4.22-21mdk, but the matching source?
>
> Any ideas?

You need kernel-source-2.4.22 for that kernel. It should be on your CD set.
It shouldn't give a missing signature if it comes from there.
If you are sure about the source of the rpm you can ignore it and install the 
package anyway.
Run "uname -a" to check what kernel you're running, apparently it doesn't 
correspond to the kernel-source you installed, or so it seems from the 
nvidia-installer complaints.

Good luck,
HarM
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Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Modem troubles

The first thing... about the modem...  there are a lot
of information about the real modems and the winmodems
(or toy modems)... and because the winmodems are not
based on standards of hardware and communications but
on them own cheap technologi... is hard to make every
winmodem works on Linux.

The external modems (real modems) are built with
hardware and software standards for communications so
if you programm a driver for the standard
communication protocol.. you can be shure it will work
with all external modems... but if you try to programm
 a driver that aplyes only to some kind of hardware...
there are no wharanty that this will work with all the
hadware.

Nevertheles if the driver you found says that works
with youre specific winmodem... maybe you have to get
deeply on its docummentation  or get a real
modem...

The Second thing.

Is not that MCC desn't save youre internet
configuration .. is just that you are overwriting
this.

Let's think that youre modem allready worked... and
you configure something like kppp to make a dialup
connection or any other... so if you done well you
will be connected to the internet any time you dial
and youre configuration will be saved. But if you use
the wizzard... any time you get into, will be
overwriting youre configuration.

If you need more help with any of this isues just
mail us.

   Cdrack.

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> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for your help everyone. I ran the install and
> got a message
> saying "everything installed", so I assume it
> worked, although I have
> no idea where it installed to. I never got asked to
> select where I
> wanted it installed as I would have in Windows.
> 
> Unfortunately nothing works still. My modem is
> listed in HardDrak(SP?)
> but there is now no "configuration tool* button
> available for it for
> some reason. I have no idea whether it is configured
> correctly or not,
> or even where to go to do that.
> 
> The other question I have is, when I go into MCC and
> look in the
> Internet section. I have to re-enter my connection
> details in there
> each time I go in to try to get this working. It
> doesn't seem to save
> my connection information anywhere. I would have
> thought that once I
> hit *apply* and *OK*, those details would stay there
> and would still
> be visible next time I log in and look at them.
> 
> This really doesn't work like Windows does it?! ;-)
> 
> Thanks for your help people. Might be time for yet
> another break ...
> I'm finding this incredibly frustrating!
> 
> - -- -
> 
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> 
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Re: [newbie] VMWare problems! Please Help!

hey i had a like problem some time ago... and was
because i was using Lilo with graphical. I mode try to
use them with text mode and it worked.

Now about runing a allready installed win98 system
that was not created from VMWare... i'm not shure if
it will work... i've tryed some time but did'nt
worked.  is bether if you create a new instalation
inside vmware and i'm shure it will work fine.

--- Scott Naylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been trying to get VMWare working for a
> little bit now. I have been 
> trying to get my Win98 OS working on my HDA
> parition. The problem is that 
> every time I try to launch the OS LiLO causes and
> error where this:
> 
> L 07 07 07 07 07 07 07, etc.
> 
> is displayed over and over and over again. Does
> anyone know how to fix this. 
> I've tried diabling Lilo and making a boot disk, but
> my disk won't boot 
> properly. I've tried using boot floppies and CDs in
> VMWare and VFAT crashes. 
> What can I do?
> 
> 
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MandrakeSoft?
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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-09 Thread Paul O'Rorke

Hi raffaele,

I get the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]$ gpg --version
gpg (GnuPG) 1.2.3
Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions. See the file COPYING for details.

Home: ~/.gnupg
Supported algorithms:
Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA, ELG
Cipher: 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256, TWOFISH
Hash: MD5, SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256
Compression: Uncompressed, ZIP, ZLIB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]$

so I guess I do?



On December 9, 2003 06:25 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote:
> Just a guess, do you have gpg installed? To check, just type
>
> $ gpg --version
>
> from the command line.
>
> raffaele
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi I'm trying to install the kernel_source so I can run the NVIDIA
> > driver, but when I try to use the Mandrake 9.2 software installer I get a
> > message that the rpm has a missing signature, could not open file.  It
> > doesn't seem to matter where I get the package from, Mandrake_Updates,
> > elsewhere - same result.  I found a package from rpmfind.net, but when I
> > ran the NVIDIA installer it complains that it is the wrong source as
> > nvidia isn't mentioned. What exactly is the signature and is the problem
> > at my end?
> >
> > Also wondering why I can (and did) install the updated the kernel to
> > 2.4.22-21mdk, but the matching source?
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
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Re: [newbie] Modem troubles

for an easy wine configuration, you can use the
winesetuptk programm.  It have a graphical enviroment
to configure wine. then you just have to launch the
programm you wath to test from the shell like this

[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wine ./MiProg.exe  

and if works then you are done if not maybe with
the next release of wine...

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> > Well done and i hope to keep on doing
> 
> Thanks Cdrack.  It should also be noted that Carren
> is a good friend 
> of mine, and it's a wee bit my fault that she's now
> trying Mandrake! 
> :-)
> 
> > PD. Wath's up with youre wine instalation...?
> 
> I seem to have successfully installed Wine (I got
> the latest version 
> for Mandrake from the WineHQ site), and now I have
> to look into the 
> configuration.
> 
> So far, I've emailed to myself the Windows .exe
> installation file for 
> "MessageCleaner", along with my registration
> information.  Now I just 
> have to figure out how to install the silly thing
> and see if it will 
> work. :-)
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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-09 Thread Raffaele Belardi

Just a guess, do you have gpg installed? To check, just type

$ gpg --version

from the command line.

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi I'm trying to install the kernel_source so I can run the NVIDIA driver, but 
when I try to use the Mandrake 9.2 software installer I get a message that 
the rpm has a missing signature, could not open file.  It doesn't seem to 
matter where I get the package from, Mandrake_Updates, elsewhere - same 
result.  I found a package from rpmfind.net, but when I ran the NVIDIA 
installer it complains that it is the wrong source as nvidia isn't mentioned.  
What exactly is the signature and is the problem at my end?

Also wondering why I can (and did) install the updated the kernel to 
2.4.22-21mdk, but the matching source?

Any ideas?





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[newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-09 Thread Paul O'Rorke

Hi I'm trying to install the kernel_source so I can run the NVIDIA driver, but 
when I try to use the Mandrake 9.2 software installer I get a message that 
the rpm has a missing signature, could not open file.  It doesn't seem to 
matter where I get the package from, Mandrake_Updates, elsewhere - same 
result.  I found a package from rpmfind.net, but when I ran the NVIDIA 
installer it complains that it is the wrong source as nvidia isn't mentioned.  
What exactly is the signature and is the problem at my end?

Also wondering why I can (and did) install the updated the kernel to 
2.4.22-21mdk, but the matching source?

Any ideas?

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Re: [newbie] VMWare problems! Please Help!

2003-12-09 Thread N. B. Day

On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 13:07, Scott Naylor wrote:
> I have been trying to get VMWare working for a little bit now. I have been 
> trying to get my Win98 OS working on my HDA parition. The problem is that 
> every time I try to launch the OS LiLO causes and error where this:
> 
> L 07 07 07 07 07 07 07, etc.
> 
> is displayed over and over and over again. Does anyone know how to fix this. 
> I've tried diabling Lilo and making a boot disk, but my disk won't boot 
> properly. I've tried using boot floppies and CDs in VMWare and VFAT crashes. 
> What can I do?
> 
I'm not clear on what you're trying to do.  It looks like you're trying
to use a previously installed Win98 in what vmware calls "raw" mode. 
They caution against this in the docs, with weasel words like "for
experts only," which suggests to me that it doesn't work yet.

I've had good luck with a bog-standard installation of Win2K inside of
MDK 9.2, just accepting all the vmware 4.04 defaults.  Your
/home/whatever has to be large enough to contain the whole Windows
installation.

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Re: [newbie] How can I replace my deleted kernel

2003-12-09 Thread Adolfo A. Bello B.

On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 12:33:24PM +, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Adolfo Bello wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 07:48, John Richard Smith wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>If you're on desktop and accidentally deleted your kernel from /boot
> >>directory is there any way to put one back other than reinstall
> >>everything from the beginning.
> >>
> >>Can you rebuild a replacement while on desktop ?
> >>Can I run CD1 install disc and get it to rebuild and install a new
> >>kernel only ?
> >>That is without installing or altering anything else, the "upgrade
> >>route" ?
> >>In any case it won't have nvida driver will it ?
> >>
> >>I think I still have a boot floppy, but never tried it, sometimes they
> >>don't work.
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>Actually , I had better make it clear that I accidentally
> >>deleted vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk from /boot directory and
> >>need to replace it, and not initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
> >>
> >>can that be done from desktop ?
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>later
> >>===
> >>
> >>mkinitrd  will not work, and in anycase I didn't delete the initrd 
> >>file,
> >>mkrescue will not work because there is no Kernel file:
> >>" /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk  does not exist"
> >>so are there any options left ?
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >Just a wild guess.
> >
> >Try upgrading to kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk. At least you will have a kernel
> >to boot to.
> > 
> >
> I Hadn't thought of that, a bit obvious really.
> So I decided, what have I got to loose.
> but instead, I decided to try installing the original kernel-2.4.21-0.13mdk
> off the discs. sure enough it installed something.
> ls - /boot
> 
> vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
> 
> there it is, back again, but will it work , I don't know,
> I mean originally on first install it had to do a complicated
> device scan and choose options to build into the kernel so
> that what you are left with is a synthesis of the original
> kernel built to your hardware needs, so how does it know
> how to do this again, without going through all the same old
> device scan proceedure ?
> Or perhaps it does,unseen behind the install script ?
> 
> At the moment I'm of the mind set that I only get the one chance to reboot,
> the old kernel is in memory now, but if things are not right no chance 
> to replace.
> Any one know if it will work ?
> 
> 
> John

Make sure you don't have any broken symlink in /boot and that they are
pointing to the right file.

If every symlink is right, my guess is that you will boot without
problem.

Adolfo

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[newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off

2003-12-09 Thread Fajar Priyanto




Dear all,
I'm almost frustated.
I tried to add a primary slave hdd into the system, 
but it didn't work. The BIOS failed to recognise the drive.
Both primary master and slave are 
maxtors.
 
I've double checked the jumper setting and I'm sure 
I did it right. http://maxtor.com/en/documentation/installation_guides/ata_installation_guide.pdf
 
The errors were:
1. If I set hdd #1 as master and hdd #2 as slave, 
BIOS only recognise hdd #1
2. If I set both hdd as cable select then only hdd 
#2 is recognised.
3. If I set hdd #1 as slave and hdd #2 as 
slave/cable select ( I know this is wrong), then only hdd #1 is recognised (as 
slave).
 
This maxtor jumper settings really pissed me off! I 
don't have this kind of trouble if I use maxtor and seagate. Is maxtor and 
maxtor really can't be used together?
 
Any opinion? Any experiences?
Pls help me. Thanks.
Fajar.
 
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Re: [newbie] How can I replace my deleted kernel

Adolfo Bello wrote:

On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 07:48, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

If you're on desktop and accidentally deleted your kernel from /boot
directory is there any way to put one back other than reinstall
everything from the beginning.
Can you rebuild a replacement while on desktop ?
Can I run CD1 install disc and get it to rebuild and install a new
kernel only ?
That is without installing or altering anything else, the "upgrade
route" ?
In any case it won't have nvida driver will it ?
I think I still have a boot floppy, but never tried it, sometimes they
don't work.
John

Actually , I had better make it clear that I accidentally
deleted vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk from /boot directory and
need to replace it, and not initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
can that be done from desktop ?

John

later
===
mkinitrd  will not work, and in anycase I didn't delete the initrd 
file,
mkrescue will not work because there is no Kernel file:
" /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk  does not exist"
so are there any options left ?

John

   

Just a wild guess.

Try upgrading to kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk. At least you will have a kernel
to boot to.
 

I Hadn't thought of that, a bit obvious really.
So I decided, what have I got to loose.
but instead, I decided to try installing the original kernel-2.4.21-0.13mdk
off the discs. sure enough it installed something.
ls - /boot
vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk

there it is, back again, but will it work , I don't know,
I mean originally on first install it had to do a complicated
device scan and choose options to build into the kernel so
that what you are left with is a synthesis of the original
kernel built to your hardware needs, so how does it know
how to do this again, without going through all the same old
device scan proceedure ?
Or perhaps it does,unseen behind the install script ?
At the moment I'm of the mind set that I only get the one chance to reboot,
the old kernel is in memory now, but if things are not right no chance 
to replace.
Any one know if it will work ?

John



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Re: [newbie] Problem with SCSI Controller

2003-12-09 Thread Ronald J. Hall

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 01:55 am, Yvan Gutknecht wrote:

>YG  You are right, it looks like that, there just one problem. There is no
> unit YG  connected to my SCSI controller.
>YG

I have to admit, I'm a little confused here - I've been following this thread 
loosely (as I do most with anything SCSI in them, since I use SCSI myself) 
but I just don't understand why you would have a SCSI controller onboard if 
you don't have any SCSI devices attached to it. Or did I miss something? 

Wouldn't it be perfectly normal for you to get a timeout error since no device 
can respond to the SCSI controllers queries? Just a thought...

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Re: [newbie] How can I replace my deleted kernel

2003-12-09 Thread Adolfo Bello

On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 07:48, John Richard Smith wrote:
> If you're on desktop and accidentally deleted your kernel from /boot
> directory is there any way to put one back other than reinstall
> everything from the beginning.
> 
> Can you rebuild a replacement while on desktop ?
> Can I run CD1 install disc and get it to rebuild and install a new
> kernel only ?
> That is without installing or altering anything else, the "upgrade
> route" ?
> In any case it won't have nvida driver will it ?
> 
> I think I still have a boot floppy, but never tried it, sometimes they
> don't work.
> 
> John
> 
> Actually , I had better make it clear that I accidentally
> deleted vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk from /boot directory and
> need to replace it, and not initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
> 
> can that be done from desktop ?
> 
> John
> 
> later
> ===
> 
> mkinitrd  will not work, and in anycase I didn't delete the initrd 
> file,
> mkrescue will not work because there is no Kernel file:
> " /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk  does not exist"
> so are there any options left ?
> 
> John
> 

Just a wild guess.

Try upgrading to kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk. At least you will have a kernel
to boot to.

Again, just a *wild guess*.

HTH

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[newbie] How can I replace my deleted kernel

If you're on desktop and accidentally deleted your kernel from /boot
directory is there any way to put one back other than reinstall
everything from the beginning.
Can you rebuild a replacement while on desktop ?
Can I run CD1 install disc and get it to rebuild and install a new
kernel only ?
That is without installing or altering anything else, the "upgrade
route" ?
In any case it won't have nvida driver will it ?
I think I still have a boot floppy, but never tried it, sometimes they
don't work.
John

Actually , I had better make it clear that I accidentally
deleted vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk from /boot directory and
need to replace it, and not initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
can that be done from desktop ?

John

later
===
mkinitrd  will not work, and in anycase I didn't delete the initrd 
file,
mkrescue will not work because there is no Kernel file:
" /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk  does not exist"
so are there any options left ?

John

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[newbie] How can I replace my deleted kernel

If you're on desktop and accidentally deleted your kernel from /boot
directory is there any way to put one back other than reinstall
everything from the beginning.
Can you rebuild a replacement while on desktop ?
Can I run CD1 install disc and get it to rebuild and install a new
kernel only ?
That is without installing or altering anything else, the "upgrade 
route" ?
In any case it won't have nvida driver will it ?

I think I still have a boot floppy, but never tried it, sometimes they
don't work.
John

Actually , I had better make it clear that I accidentally
deleted vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk from /boot directory and
need to replace it, and not initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
can that be done from desktop ?

John

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla mail filters

2003-12-09 Thread robin

Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Monday 08 December 2003 14:15, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:



Ideas on the current STABLE release of Mozilla (1.5?)
appreciated. Time to get learning and learn how to install an RPM
or source from an external CD.


Hylton, Mozilla 1.5 doesn't come as a rpm, but as an installer 
(bin). No big issue to use, though. Just follow the README.

But be aware that you'll lose all the nice fonts, including the 
antialiasing ones. IMHO the Mozilla fonts are terrible. Actually I 
reverted to the Mozilla 1.4 that comes with MDK 9.2 as a rpm.
You have to scroll down the downloads page to find the XFT-enabled 
version.  That will give you nice anti-aliased fonts.

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Re: [newbie] Gdesklets (again!)

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:51:03 +
Inhabitant of Zion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tnink my other option is to go get the gdesklets tarball and try
> installing that. 
> 
> See what happens I guess...

The funny thing (well, not so funny as frustrating, I guess), is that I have
gdesklets installed, and a "sensor" (RSS), but when I run it, I get "You are
running GDesklets for the first time, welcome, blah blah blah", and then...

Nothing. Weird.

I think we're dealing with something rather new and untested here, I'll keep my
eyes on the forum there and see what comes up.

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Re: [newbie] k3b grief

2003-12-09 Thread Paul Kaplan

Try rpmseek.org and pick the most recent (highest version #) cdrecord rpm for 
mdk 9.1.  I didn't have any dependency problems with the cdrecord downgrade 
and I doubt there will be a problem with cdrdao.

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 01:30 am, Paul Harrison wrote:
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> Paul Kaplan wrote:
> | See my post and reply from a few days ago.
>
> Thanks for that Paul.  I missed that post due to experiments with
> Thunderbird that went horribly wrong...
>
> | I had the same problem (different
> | CDR) under 9.2.  After downgrading the cdrecord package to the one
>
> supplied
>
> | with 9.1,
>
> Now which version is that?  I've found a page of RPMs for Mdk9.x with
> various versions.
>
> Also, does not changing cdrecord lead to "dependency hell" for all CD
> writing software on Mdk 9.2?  Not that I can get *any *of it to work,
> but hey...
>
> Paul
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Re: [newbie] Gdesklets (again!)

2003-12-09 Thread Inhabitant of Zion

[EMAIL PROTECTED] williamblake]# urpmi gnome-python
Everything already installed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] williamblake]# urpmi pygtk2.0
Everything already installed

Tnink my other option is to go get the gdesklets tarball and try
installing that. 

See what happens I guess...

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Re: [newbie] Gdesklets (again!)

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 05:14:12 -0500
JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Try "urpmi pygnome", see if that helps.

Sorry, should be "urpmi gnome-python".

See FAQ here:

http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4403&sid=16925a466900352483bdca7277f8327d

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Re: [newbie] Gdesklets (again!)

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:35:37 +
Inhabitant of Zion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Running it from terminal gets this:
> 
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr//bin/gdesklets", line 4, in ?
> from main import HOME
>   File "/usr/share/gdesklets/main/__init__.py", line 39, in ?
> import gnome.ui
> ImportError: No module named gnome.ui
> 
> Am I doing something _really_ silly?

No, looks like you are not alone, in fact.

Go to google.com/linux and enter No module named gnome.ui as a search term,
you'll see what I mean.

My best guess is you are just missing a dependency that the packager built
against but has not been installed.

Try "urpmi pygnome", see if that helps.

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[newbie] How can I replace my deleted kernel