Re: [newbie] chnage to text mode login

2003-12-29 Thread Aron Smith
On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 22:09, Xue-Feng Yang wrote:
> I made a mistake that I forgot to choose text mode
> login when I installed Mandrake. So each time I start
> my linux box, the computer goes to X-win directly.
> Could anyone tell me how to resolve this?
MCC click on boot uncheck the load graphical login
>   
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: [newbie] financial app

2003-12-29 Thread Steve Mazil
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:18:09 -0500
Carroll Grigsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Monday 29 December 2003 06:49 am, Johan wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Thanks for all your suggestions  .. I will be looking into them.
> 
> As long as we're on the topic: A while back I blew in all of $4.99 for an 
> ancient version (3.0?) of Moneydance and tried it out. My only beef was that 
> I could not find a way to change the format of the printed reports to suit my 
> needs. Has anyone had any experience with the current version? My needs are 
> pretty simple -- mostly just tracking my checkbook. (Maybe I should just 
> create an OpenOffice.org spreadsheet...)
> -- cmg
> 
You can get the latest build of Moneydance from here:  http://moneydance.com/preview/
I'm not sure if you have the option to format the reports to suit you needs in the 
current build, I never bothered to look to see if it was possible to configure them 
differently.  I do use it on a regular basis only to keep track of my checking 
account. 

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[newbie] chnage to text mode login

2003-12-29 Thread Xue-Feng Yang
I made a mistake that I forgot to choose text mode
login when I installed Mandrake. So each time I start
my linux box, the computer goes to X-win directly.
Could anyone tell me how to resolve this?  

Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] hostname and firewall ruels

2003-12-29 Thread Xue-Feng Yang
Thank you, Aron. I don't have static IP. However, I
just found a solution for my problem.

I have this problem since I don't have static IP. So I
have to use DHCP. The DHCP will overwrite the
hostname. The solution to this, in case someone needs
this, is using Mandrake Control Center, the network
wizard in expert mode. 

 --- Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On
Mon, 2003-12-29 at 20:38, Xue-Feng Yang wrote:
> > I found the location of the firewall related
> > configurations files. They are all in
> /etc/shorewall/
> > in case someone want to know.
> > 
> > I am still looking for the solution for my first
> > question.
> > 
> >  --- Xue-Feng Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> How
> > to change the hostname from a strange string
> > > like
> > > x1-6-00-50-something_like_that to a readable
> name?
> > > 
> > > Where is default firewall rule file related in
> > > mandrake 9.2?
> just try (no guarantee) 
> K-->Configuration-->INTERNET--> 
> here you start the wizard if you have a static IP
> address you can set
> your host name to something like foobox.com 
> it worked for me
> > > 
> > > Thanks
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[newbie] Mplayer/Mencoder issues

2003-12-29 Thread John Richard Smith
I find mencoder isn't handling AC3 surround sound well.

Does anyone have any experience with this problem.

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Re: [newbie] hostname and firewall ruels

2003-12-29 Thread Aron Smith
On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 20:38, Xue-Feng Yang wrote:
> I found the location of the firewall related
> configurations files. They are all in /etc/shorewall/
> in case someone want to know.
> 
> I am still looking for the solution for my first
> question.
> 
>  --- Xue-Feng Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How
> to change the hostname from a strange string
> > like
> > x1-6-00-50-something_like_that to a readable name?
> > 
> > Where is default firewall rule file related in
> > mandrake 9.2?
just try (no guarantee) 
K-->Configuration-->INTERNET--> 
here you start the wizard if you have a static IP address you can set
your host name to something like foobox.com 
it worked for me
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Re: [newbie] power down

2003-12-29 Thread Ramin M
  I am having the same situation! I have disabled ACPI and now at the
final moment i have to push the power button to turn off the computer. 
However i don´t have any complaint about this. It is quite normal to do
this! 
  With ACPI on, the Mandrake was able to physically turn off the
machine. Apparantly Mandrake can not handle ACPI on my machine and it
was freezing like hell. NOw very rarley it freeze.
  So just push that button at the end. It is so easy!
Regards, Ramin
 
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my old machine a pentium2 with an intel
> motherboard,it when i go to shut down it goes through the entire
> process
> but will not shut of the computer. I reinstalled suse and it works
> good.
> Does anybody know a fix for this as I want to reinstall mandrake 9.2
> on
> the old machine
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Re: [newbie] hostname and firewall ruels

2003-12-29 Thread Xue-Feng Yang
I found the location of the firewall related
configurations files. They are all in /etc/shorewall/
in case someone want to know.

I am still looking for the solution for my first
question.

 --- Xue-Feng Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How
to change the hostname from a strange string
> like
> x1-6-00-50-something_like_that to a readable name?
> 
> Where is default firewall rule file related in
> mandrake 9.2?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Xue-Feng  
> 
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[newbie] Strange DNS

2003-12-29 Thread Aron Smith
about once a week I lose I-Net access it's always the same thing the DNS
server is reset to 127.0.0.1 always the same number any ideas gang?
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[newbie] X3d

2003-12-29 Thread Steven Nelson
I ordered a pair of 3d glasses for www.x3d.com. They have an installation 
disc for Windows with them. I did a search on the internet to see if there 
was anyhting about using them with Linux, alot of websites appeared relating 
to X3d technology. I don't know if that has to do with the glasses although 
it seemed pretty similiar. If someone knows if the X3d glasses can be 
installed with Linux will they tell me? Thanks.

 From,

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[newbie] hostname and firewall ruels

2003-12-29 Thread Xue-Feng Yang
How to change the hostname from a strange string like
x1-6-00-50-something_like_that to a readable name?

Where is default firewall rule file related in
mandrake 9.2?

Thanks

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RE: [newbie] Installing Linux porblems.

2003-12-29 Thread Steven Nelson
I am not sure if this is the same problem that I had, although it may be and 
if it isn't then this is one possibility. Linux uses hard drives very 
precise, Windows doesn't use the hard drive as precise as Linux. I had a 
Western Digital hard drive that worked on Windows but didn't work on Linux. 
The W.D. hard drive was a little bit faulty and Linux could not not install. 
Linux would install and then not work at first, then after a while when I 
would try to reinstall, it would freeze when the partition was being 
formatted. I think the problem is you need to get a new hard drive. I am not 
100% sure but that is most likely the case.

From,

  Steven

From: Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Newbie e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [newbie] Installing Linux porblems.
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:37:46 -0800
Hi,

I have been trying to load Linux on a HP Pavilion which has 12 GB of disk 
space and 288 meg of memory running at 400 mhz.

In the process of installation it just stops loading. If I restart install 
by just erasing disk and starting over it stops sooner then before.

The last time I did a custom disk partitioning, cleared all, then had 
system auto allocate. That time it stopped at the point that it stopped the 
first time.

The auto allocate is allocating 5.8 GB to hda1 and 4.8 GB to hda6

Does anyone know what I can do to correct this problem?

Russ

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Re: [newbie] OT - Mozilla mail q

2003-12-29 Thread anton
anton wrote:

Hi all,
Just upgrading the folks from an old p1 to a new el cheapo Dell and am 
setting up Mozilla (I decided not to get rid of doze altogether... 
opened it up to put the HD from their other computer, which I was 
going to put mdk 9.1 on - nowhere to put the damn thing!!! Not even 
the proper bracketing for a floppy! )&*)^(&) . Anyway, dad wants to 
keep all his old mail, and I said it would be no problem copying 
across his Communicator 4.01 mail files to the new setup. I copied the 
entire contents of his old HD across but the import wizard won't let 
one search to the directory where the mail is situated. I tried 
various different positions but can't work out where I should put it. 
It just asks me for a profile. Of course the profile only existed 
properly on the 'doze 95 installation.
Any help most appreciated.
Cheers
Anton
I often seem to reply to myself...
Anyway, the only solution I came up with was to copy the entire contents 
of the Mail folder and paste it in the new mail folder I created in 
Mozilla 1.5. It worked. I wasn't able to get any of the addresses or 
anything though.
Thanks Anton
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[newbie] Installing Linux porblems.

2003-12-29 Thread Russ
Hi,

I have been trying to load Linux on a HP Pavilion which has 12 GB of 
disk space and 288 meg of memory running at 400 mhz.

In the process of installation it just stops loading. If I restart 
install by just erasing disk and starting over it stops sooner then before.

The last time I did a custom disk partitioning, cleared all, then had 
system auto allocate. That time it stopped at the point that it stopped 
the first time.

The auto allocate is allocating 5.8 GB to hda1 and 4.8 GB to hda6

Does anyone know what I can do to correct this problem?

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Re: [newbie] editing Mpeg home video

2003-12-29 Thread Joe
I'm still not sure what you would use to convert .mov to the proper 
format for

VCD, maybe try Virtualdub as Matt suggested.


Thanks, I'll try it.  Rendering with Cinerella gave me twenty minutes 
of black screen.

Sir Robin
As far as I can tell there is no linux port of virtualdub :(. I think 
avidemux is the best alternative from what i have read.

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RE: [newbie] YASP, (yet, another sound problem)

2003-12-29 Thread Steven Nelson
Hi, I have had the same problem. I have a Sound Blaster Audgy 2 and when I 
was using Mandrake 9.1 the I recieved the same message when logging into 
Kde, also the other desktops I tried I couldn't get any sound.

When I installed Mandrake 9.2 I logged into the Xfce desktop for my first 
login (i never tried this desktop or other in 9.1), the sound worked. I 
later logged into Kde and the sound message appeared. I updated the kernel 
to kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and then installed 
kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm (which Mandrake 9.2 did not have). I 
rebooted and the sound in Kde worked fine. So all you should have to do is 
update the kernel you are using now (if it isn't the 
2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm) and install the kernel-source 
2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm (not sure if installing the kernel-source is what made 
the sound work although it might have, it was either the updated kernel or 
new kernel-source), and the sound in Kde should work. You can get the kernel 
and kernel-source from a ftp on the Mandrake installation website. Go to the 
ftp and there should be something that says up to higher directory, click it 
once or twice and then go to the updates directory, then go to the 9.2 
directory, then the rpms directory and those two files should be in there. 
Download them and burn them to a cd.

If you need to know how to install the new kernel and kernel-source, this is 
how.
-burn the new kernel and kernel-source files to a cd.
-Go to init 3 (which is the text login screen). You are already at init 3 
when you login if you are at the text based login. If you are at the desktop 
type 'init 3' and then you will be at init 3.
-Login to root (after you login, by typing su then enter the root password) 
then  go to the cd rom directory, by typing 'mount /mnt/cdrom and the cd 
/mnt/cdrom', then you should be at the cdrom.
-Type 'ls' to see the kernel and kernel-sorce on the cd, if you want to see 
them.
-Then to install the files type:
-'rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm' (use this command for the 
kernel)
-'rpm -Uvh kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm' (use this command for the 
kernel-source)

Then reboot and the sound should work.

From,

  Steven

From: Nestor Castro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] YASP,  (yet, another sound 
problem)
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:54:56 +0100

I thought I could solve this problem just by looking at related problems in 
the list, but,

when I turn on my computer, everything looks [OK], until this message comes 
up.

Loading sound module (snd-emu10k1) modprobe: Can´t locate module 
snd-emu10k1

then in KDE when I log on a user... a popup window.

-Sound server informational message:
error while initializing the sound driver
device /dev/dsp can´t be opened (No such file or directory)
The soud server will continue, using the null output device.
in DrakControl the sound card is:

[SB Live!Value]EMU10K1X

I know this type of creative labs cards have different chipsets in them, 
but don´t know how to make it work,,

Help..

Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] power down

2003-12-29 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:52:38 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christoph Eckert) wrote:

> I'm sorry, but I do not know.
> 
> The line is derived from a SuSE 9.0 installation which crashed 
> very often, so I got some parameters from the web and played 
> with them (without result, so I switched to Mandrake ;-) 

That's funny, your post had led me to do some Googling on apic, and apparently
it may be the cause of some instability I've been experiencing WRT the
filesystem. Apparently it has something to do with MP systems and is enabled by
default. Anyway, the info I found was all from Suse mailing lists... :-D

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[newbie] YASP, (yet, another sound problem)

2003-12-29 Thread Nestor Castro
I thought I could solve this problem just by looking at related problems 
in the list, but,

when I turn on my computer, everything looks [OK], until this message 
comes up.

Loading sound module (snd-emu10k1) modprobe: Can´t locate module snd-emu10k1

then in KDE when I log on a user... a popup window.

-Sound server informational message:
error while initializing the sound driver
device /dev/dsp can´t be opened (No such file or directory)
The soud server will continue, using the null output device.
in DrakControl the sound card is:

[SB Live!Value]EMU10K1X

I know this type of creative labs cards have different chipsets in them, 
but don´t know how to make it work,,

Help..

Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] power down

2003-12-29 Thread Christoph Eckert
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Am Dienstag, 30. Dezember 2003 00:29 schrieb JoeHill:

> I'm familiar with acpi=off and noapic, what is "nolapic"?

I'm sorry, but I do not know.

The line is derived from a SuSE 9.0 installation which crashed 
very often, so I got some parameters from the web and played 
with them (without result, so I switched to Mandrake ;-) .


Gruß / regards


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Re: [newbie] installing .tar.bz2

2003-12-29 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:38:10 +0200
robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This will give you instructions for installationi but nine times out of ten
> i it's just a matter of typing
> 
> config
> make
> make install

Yeah, right after you hunt down the 14 -devel libs you need to compile the
sucker...;-)

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Re: [newbie] installing .tar.bz2

2003-12-29 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 18:38, robin wrote:
> Let's say your file is foo.tar.bz2.
> 
> First open a terminal and cd to the directory you downloaded it to (e.g. 
> cd /home/steven/). Then type "bunzip2 foo.tar.bz2" (without the quotes, 
> of course).  This will give you a new file, foo.tar. Type "tar xvf 
> foo.tar" and it will expand to give you a new directory.

You may also save some typing with:

  tar jxvf foo.tar.bz2

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Re: [newbie] power down

2003-12-29 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:01:01 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christoph Eckert) wrote:

> I had to add an option to my menu.lst which is a config file 
> of grub.
> 
> Unfortunately, I do not remember which of them it was:
> 
> acpi=off noapic hdb=ide-scsi hdblun=0  nolapic apm=on
> 
> I guess that you are missing apm=on

I'm familiar with acpi=off and noapic, what is "nolapic"?

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[newbie] Installing Mesa 3d.

2003-12-29 Thread Steven Nelson
I will try reply to the other email (physical memory) tomorrow, if anybody 
is wondering when or if I was going to. Having a serious problem (have been 
for a while, same problem on Windows) with Open Gl and would like to try 
upgrading to Mesa 3d. I have some questions before I ask any installation 
questions, if I have any.
-Are there any other 3d API's besides Mesa and Open GL, that are as good as 
those or better, in terms of graphics, rendering, speed, ect.? If there are 
will you tell me what they are? If I you think there is anything I should 
know before installing Mesa 3d, will you let me know?
-Will Mesa 3d work on Mandrake 9.2?
-Can I use Mesa 3d instead of Open Gl on Mandrake 9.2?
-Does Mesa 3d do the same thing as Open Gl?

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Re: [newbie] power down

2003-12-29 Thread Christoph Eckert
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Am Montag, 29. Dezember 2003 23:21 schrieb Gary Schauer:

> I have installed 9.2 on my old machine a pentium2 with an
> intel motherboard,it when i go to shut down it goes through
> the entire process but will not shut of the computer.

I had to add an option to my menu.lst which is a config file 
of grub.

Unfortunately, I do not remember which of them it was:

acpi=off noapic hdb=ide-scsi hdblun=0  nolapic apm=on

I guess that you are missing apm=on


Gruß / regards


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Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Eric Huff
> -> You might do better to find the actual file that is in the
> kmail-> directory.  That might just give you the same thing,
> though...->
> 
> Here is what it looks like after saving it out as text:



Does it look the same as the file in kmail's directory on the hard
drive?  (i think it is in ~/Mail)

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[newbie] USB video capture: any experience? (2nd time around)

2003-12-29 Thread Paul Harrison
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Posted this before but got no response, so thought I might try again...

I have a super little gadget I picked up off eBay for a snip: a D-Link
DU-CV USB Video Grabber.  Works beautifully in M$ eXPee...
... anyone with experience of using it (or similar) under Mdk 9.x?

This is a great list, I'm so thankful for the distilled knowledge here,

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Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 29 December 2003 11:33 am, Eric Huff wrote:

-> When kmial saves, does it just copy the file, or does it write what
-> it thinks the file is?
->
-> You might do better to find the actual file that is in the kmail
-> directory.  That might just give you the same thing, though...
->
-> eric
->

Here is what it looks like after saving it out as text:

From
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from mxsf25.cluster1.charter.net ([10.20.201.225])
  by mtai04.charter.net
  (InterMail vM.6.00.04.00 201-2115-106-20030714) with ESMTP
  id 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
  Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:24:19 -0500
Received: from azerty.mandrakesoft.com (azerty.mandrakesoft.com 
[80.67.180.178])
by mxsf25.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id 
hBSJO5kq008750;
Sun,: 24:05 -0500 (EST)
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Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Eric Huff
> Nope, no editing on my part. Under Kmail, across the bar where it
> says
> 
> Subject SenderDate  Size
> 
> its all blank/unknown. Except for size, which ranges from 1.1 to
> 1.3kbs.
> 
> There is nothing to read in Kmail at all. I can save that 1.1 to
> 1.3 kbs out as a text file, and you've seen the result. I've never
> seen Kmail do this before.
> 
> Thanks much!

When kmial saves, does it just copy the file, or does it write what
it thinks the file is?

You might do better to find the actual file that is in the kmail
directory.  That might just give you the same thing, though...

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Re: [newbie] Physical memory is to high.

2003-12-29 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Monday 29 December 2003 6:45 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

> > That is the problem, on all of the terminals that are
> > avaible with Mandrake 9.2 none of them will let the left click menu
> > appear. When I used Mandrake 9.1 there was one terminal that had
> > that feature, it is not with Mandrake 9.2.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by this one, Seven, and since I don't use
> 9.2 I'll let someone else try to answer that.
>
Since as far as I'm concerned the other questions were handled by Anne and 
others more than adequately I broad-axed them. The terminal however...

If you don't have a tool bar at the top of the terminal you probably don't 
have anything but the rxvt terminal installed. There are numerous threads 
available in the archives dealing with the changes in KDE, and what you need 
to do to install the rest of the KDE apps that were a once huge bundle, but 
have been split into package groups for 9.2.

For complete mailing list archives for this list, navigate to:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbie&r=1&w=2

There are others around the World Wide Wait, but that one never seems to 
break.

If you want to use "Konsole" install it.

urpmi konsole

as super user in the terminal you do have. Once it's installed you can access 
it from the run command you've already been told about. Use Alt+F2 and type 
konsole and strike the enter key.

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Re: [newbie] copy a cd

2003-12-29 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hi Johan,

I am very happy with K3b as a cdrecord front-end (GUI). You can read all 
about it (and download too ) from http://www.k3b.org.

It's a very nice and cool program for burning. It even has DVD burning 
support and can also copy a CD.

Cheers,

Amichai.

On Monday 29 December 2003 13:08, Johan wrote:
> Hi,
> To make an exact copy of a cd will this be the format...
> dd if=xx/zzz/test.iso of=/mnt/cdrom
> or
> dd if=xx/zzz/test.iso of=/dev/hdb
> ***  or   ***
> any other application unknown to me please.
> Thanks


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Re: [newbie] Userfriendly!

2003-12-29 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Monday 29 December 2003 6:12 am, Ronald J. Hall droned on:
> On Sunday 28 December 2003 03:49 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
>
> -> If you don't know what's up, check out the IBM Prodigy Ad. Linux folks
> can -> read it by downloading it from http://www.bkw.org/~brian/misc/, grab
> the -> Prodigy file, either one.
> ->
> ->
>
> Yeah, I saw those as well - I follow UF every single day... :-)

So do I. Its the homepage on the browsers of both my work and home machines.

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Re: [newbie] Samba 3

2003-12-29 Thread Robin Turner
Paul Kaplan wrote:
Try the samba mailing lists @ samba.org.  A very helpful group.
Thanks, I'll check them out (nothing came up in a search of the archives).

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Re: [newbie] Physical memory is to high.

2003-12-29 Thread Steven Nelson
Will reply later today. From, Steven


From: Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Physical memory is to high.
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:28:02 +
On Monday 29 Dec 2003 1:45 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 29 December 2003 13:27, Steven Nelson wrote:
> > That is the problem, on all of the terminals that are
> > avaible with Mandrake 9.2 none of them will let the left click menu
> > appear. When I used Mandrake 9.1 there was one terminal that had
> > that feature, it is not with Mandrake 9.2.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by this one, Seven, and since I don't use
> 9.2 I'll let someone else try to answer that.
I assume that you mean right-click menu, or that you have a left-handed 
mouse,
since there is no left click menu anywhere that I am aware of.

Which terminal program are you using? "konsole" (the default KDE terminal)
works fine here, it has a menu bar with copy and paste under the "Edit"
entry, and right clicking gives me a context menu with copy and paste
options.  "konsole" is the only option on the K menu "Terminals" submenu.
I found "eterm" didn't understand the Windows/KDE copy and paste 
methodology,
but did understand the highlight-and-middle-click X methodology. And that
caused a problem with some KDE apps that used only the KDE method. But 
eterm
isn't installed as standard. xterm may suffer the same problem, but so far 
as
I can see, that isn't installed as standard either.

(Just for the record I agree with everyone's comments on your memory 
situation
- you don't have a problem.)

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Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 29 December 2003 09:45 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

-> I'm sure it does, DL.  I saw your printout of it a few minutes after I
-> wrote this .  I'm waiting to see if anyone notices anything odd
-> about the headers.  Did you edit them when you posted them here?
-> They look very different from a typical one, shorter, apart from
-> anything else.
->
-> Anne

Nope, no editing on my part. Under Kmail, across the bar where it says

Subject SenderDate  Size

its all blank/unknown. Except for size, which ranges from 1.1 to 1.3kbs.

There is nothing to read in Kmail at all. I can save that 1.1 to 1.3 kbs out 
as a text file, and you've seen the result. I've never seen Kmail do this 
before.

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Re: [newbie] Physical memory is to high.

2003-12-29 Thread et
On Monday 29 December 2003 02:28 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:
> On Monday 29 Dec 2003 1:45 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Monday 29 December 2003 13:27, Steven Nelson wrote:
> > > That is the problem, on all of the terminals that are
> > > avaible with Mandrake 9.2 none of them will let the left click menu
> > > appear. When I used Mandrake 9.1 there was one terminal that had
> > > that feature, it is not with Mandrake 9.2.
> >
> > I'm not sure what you mean by this one, Seven, and since I don't use
> > 9.2 I'll let someone else try to answer that.
>
> I assume that you mean right-click menu, or that you have a left-handed
> mouse, since there is no left click menu anywhere that I am aware of.
eterm has a regular menu at the top,,, at least my configuration does, it does 
left click to get menus.
>
> Which terminal program are you using? "konsole" (the default KDE terminal)
> works fine here, it has a menu bar with copy and paste under the "Edit"
> entry, and right clicking gives me a context menu with copy and paste
> options.  "konsole" is the only option on the K menu "Terminals" submenu.
>
> I found "eterm" didn't understand the Windows/KDE copy and paste
> methodology, but did understand the highlight-and-middle-click X
> methodology. And that caused a problem with some KDE apps that used only
> the KDE method. But eterm isn't installed as standard. xterm may suffer the
> same problem, but so far as I can see, that isn't installed as standard
> either.
>
> (Just for the record I agree with everyone's comments on your memory
> situation - you don't have a problem.)


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Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Monday 29 December 2003 14:29, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Monday 29 December 2003 09:12 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
>
> -> If it happens again, could you try Forward as an Attachment, so
> that -> we can see the headers?
> ->
> -> Anne
>
> I'll try, but when you save an e-mail out as text, doesn't it
> include everything there?

I'm sure it does, DL.  I saw your printout of it a few minutes after I 
wrote this .  I'm waiting to see if anyone notices anything odd 
about the headers.  Did you edit them when you posted them here?  
They look very different from a typical one, shorter, apart from 
anything else.

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Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 29 December 2003 09:12 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

-> If it happens again, could you try Forward as an Attachment, so that
-> we can see the headers?
->
-> Anne

I'll try, but when you save an e-mail out as text, doesn't it include 
everything there? 

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Re: [newbie] Physical memory is to high.

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Urwin
On Monday 29 Dec 2003 1:45 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 29 December 2003 13:27, Steven Nelson wrote:

> > That is the problem, on all of the terminals that are
> > avaible with Mandrake 9.2 none of them will let the left click menu
> > appear. When I used Mandrake 9.1 there was one terminal that had
> > that feature, it is not with Mandrake 9.2.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by this one, Seven, and since I don't use
> 9.2 I'll let someone else try to answer that.

I assume that you mean right-click menu, or that you have a left-handed mouse, 
since there is no left click menu anywhere that I am aware of.

Which terminal program are you using? "konsole" (the default KDE terminal) 
works fine here, it has a menu bar with copy and paste under the "Edit" 
entry, and right clicking gives me a context menu with copy and paste 
options.  "konsole" is the only option on the K menu "Terminals" submenu.

I found "eterm" didn't understand the Windows/KDE copy and paste methodology, 
but did understand the highlight-and-middle-click X methodology. And that 
caused a problem with some KDE apps that used only the KDE method. But eterm 
isn't installed as standard. xterm may suffer the same problem, but so far as 
I can see, that isn't installed as standard either.

(Just for the record I agree with everyone's comments on your memory situation 
- you don't have a problem.)

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Re: [newbie] Physical memory is to high.

2003-12-29 Thread Lanman
On 12/29/2003 at 1:45 PM Anne Wilson wrote:

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>
>On Monday 29 December 2003 13:27, Steven Nelson wrote:
>> I was thinking the disk cache was on the hard drive. Are
u sure it
>> is in the memory? I know in alot of the Windows versions
I have
>> used there was settings where you could enable a cache
and set the
>> size of it. You might be confused or I might be but I
thought when
>> memory was not used it is waiting for applications to
use it or for
>> when you use the applications that would be already
enabled and
>> they need more memory. 
>
>This is where linux and windows handle things quite
differently.  
>Windows sets aside a memory area, and once that's filled
up it starts 
>writing to disk cache.  In linux, it sees memory rather
like a pond 
>that is fed by a stream.  Water (data) can flow into it as
long as it 
>is not full, but when it runs out of space it simply lets
some run 
>away (least likely to be needed data) to make room for the
new.  If 
>you have plenty of ram it will operate within that space
for most of 
>the time, barely touching your swap partition.  That's
what happens 
>on mine (512MB).  If it is really being worked hard, which
is usually 
>a short time, it will use the ram and the swap, but it
will still 
>handle it much more efficiently than windows does.  It is
a 
>completely different system.
>
>> I didn't think applications should use that
>> much of the memory. Almost all of the memory is gone
because the
>> applications are using it. If I run out of memory then I
will not
>> be able to use the computer correctly and it will
freeze. 
>
>Believe me, it wont   My memory usage goes close to the
512MB 
>within an hour or two of booting up, but I have run for
weeks at a 
>time and never had a problem caused by memory shortage.
>
>> Won't
>> other applications need the memory? 
>
>Yes, and it will be released as necessary.
>
>> The swap space is not being
>> used at all. 
>
>That shows that it is working well.
>
>> That is the problem, on all of the terminals that are
>> avaible with Mandrake 9.2 none of them will let the left
click menu
>> appear. When I used Mandrake 9.1 there was one terminal
that had
>> that feature, it is not with Mandrake 9.2. 
>
>I'm not sure what you mean by this one, Seven, and since I
don't use 
>9.2 I'll let someone else try to answer that.
>
>> Is the Konquerer file
>> you mentioned the same as the Lilo? Do I need to get
both? I booted
>> the enterprise kernel and it read the 1024mb of memory
right. That
>> helped with how much memory is being used, there is
still around
>> 360mb being used. I would think that is to much but if
you are
>> right about the programs using that much memory, I guess
not. If it
>> helps, the questions that are have are in the paragraph.
Some of
>> them do not have question marks at the end of them and
are
>> questions within a regular sentence. You should be able
to
>> understand the paragraph and what the questions are if
you
>> understand what is happening with the memory problem.
>>
>Apart from that one bit, I understood your concerns.
Believe me, I 
>remember how difficult it is to come to terms with such a
fundamental 
>difference .  I'm glad that the enterprise kernel
appears to be 
>working well for you, and I hope that my explanations have
made 
>things clearer.  I think your terminal question is a
different thing, 
>though, and it may help to start another thread with a
subject 
>directly relating to that, as others may be ignoring this
thread, 
>thinking that Derek and I are dealing with it.
>
>
>Anne

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Steven; Anne's analogy is one of the most elegant ones I've
seen in a long time! Makes me feel like I should get a
straw hat and a fishin' pole and go lookin' fer some o'
them danged "ram catfish"!  ! Whether Anne meant to or
not, she's managed to hit on one of the most significant
differences between Windows and Linux. Linux manages memory
in a distinctly different manner than Windows. 

Microsoft's memory manager has always been a P.O.S. ( and I
don't mean Point-of-Sale ! ), because it would essentially
grab ram as needed by the various applications and services
running on a PC or server. While that doesn't sound too
bad, the problem was that it does a rotten job of managing
and tracking the jobs sitting in ram, and also it sucks at
returning that ram to an unused state, once the application
or whatever has finished using it. In many instances, the
Windows memory manager would also send 2 or more jobs to
the exact same physical or virtual ram locations, thus
causing a large percentage of the B.S.O.D.'s that sent many
Linux users scrambling away from Microsoft product. Windows
2000 had the best memory manager of the lot, and even that
one has been less than Stellar! I know dozens of Microsoft
Net and Sys Admins that regularly reboot their servers in
order to clean things up ( it's the easiest way to refresh
the ram for them ), whi

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Monday 29 December 2003 14:11, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Sunday 28 December 2003 01:44 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
>
> -> I have seen this before. It resulted from a power outage while I
> was using -> kmail and had read some messages and sent them to
> trash but not exited kmail. -> When the power came back up the
> message list had a message label for some but -> if I clicked on
> them they change to the none label so I would delete that and -> go
> on. Next go around everything was ok.  Did you have an unscheduled
> power -> shut down?
>
> Dennis, I know what you are talking about and this is different - I
> can save the file out as text - see the previous post - I enclosed
> it there. Thanks!

If it happens again, could you try Forward as an Attachment, so that 
we can see the headers?

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Re: [newbie] Userfriendly!

2003-12-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 28 December 2003 03:49 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:

-> If you don't know what's up, check out the IBM Prodigy Ad. Linux folks can
-> read it by downloading it from http://www.bkw.org/~brian/misc/, grab the
-> Prodigy file, either one.
->
->

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Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 28 December 2003 11:15 am, Eric Huff wrote:
-> > -> Which was the message you were talking about?  I haven't
-> > noticed any-> blank ones in my kmail, but I'll check back if you
-> > give me a clue.->
-> > -> Anne
-> >
-> > Argh, thought I had a copy lying around but I'll have to wait
-> > until it appears again. I'll post it then Anne.
->
-> If kmail is getting confused with it, you might have to gofind it in
-> the directory and grab the file itself.
->
-> eric
->

Here is what it looks like after saving it out as text:

From
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from mxsf25.cluster1.charter.net ([10.20.201.225])
  by mtai04.charter.net
  (InterMail vM.6.00.04.00 201-2115-106-20030714) with ESMTP
  id 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
  Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:24:19 -0500
Received: from azerty.mandrakesoft.com (azerty.mandrakesoft.com 
[80.67.180.178])
by mxsf25.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBSJO5kq008750;
Sun,: 24:05 -0500 (EST)
(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Received: from smtp.mandrax.org (smtp.mandrax.org [80.67.180.169])
by azerty.mandrakesoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP
id: 15:25 +0100 (CET)
Received: by smtp.mandrax.org (Postfix, from userid 500)
id: 40:20 +0100 (CET)
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from absamail.co.za (mail3.absamail.co.za [196.35.40.69])
by smtp.mandrax.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31BB56A03
for: 39:23 +0100 (CET)
Received: from absamail.co.za not authenticated [196.35.40.70]
by:   3.14  $ on Novell NetWare;
Status: R
X-Status: N
X-KMail-EncryptionState:
X-KMail-SignatureState:

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Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 28 December 2003 01:44 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:

-> I have seen this before. It resulted from a power outage while I was using
-> kmail and had read some messages and sent them to trash but not exited
 kmail. -> When the power came back up the message list had a message label
 for some but -> if I clicked on them they change to the none label so I
 would delete that and -> go on. Next go around everything was ok.  Did you
 have an unscheduled power -> shut down?

Dennis, I know what you are talking about and this is different - I can save 
the file out as text - see the previous post - I enclosed it there. Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] Physical memory is to high.

2003-12-29 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Monday 29 December 2003 13:27, Steven Nelson wrote:
> I was thinking the disk cache was on the hard drive. Are u sure it
> is in the memory? I know in alot of the Windows versions I have
> used there was settings where you could enable a cache and set the
> size of it. You might be confused or I might be but I thought when
> memory was not used it is waiting for applications to use it or for
> when you use the applications that would be already enabled and
> they need more memory. 

This is where linux and windows handle things quite differently.  
Windows sets aside a memory area, and once that's filled up it starts 
writing to disk cache.  In linux, it sees memory rather like a pond 
that is fed by a stream.  Water (data) can flow into it as long as it 
is not full, but when it runs out of space it simply lets some run 
away (least likely to be needed data) to make room for the new.  If 
you have plenty of ram it will operate within that space for most of 
the time, barely touching your swap partition.  That's what happens 
on mine (512MB).  If it is really being worked hard, which is usually 
a short time, it will use the ram and the swap, but it will still 
handle it much more efficiently than windows does.  It is a 
completely different system.

> I didn't think applications should use that
> much of the memory. Almost all of the memory is gone because the
> applications are using it. If I run out of memory then I will not
> be able to use the computer correctly and it will freeze. 

Believe me, it wont   My memory usage goes close to the 512MB 
within an hour or two of booting up, but I have run for weeks at a 
time and never had a problem caused by memory shortage.

> Won't
> other applications need the memory? 

Yes, and it will be released as necessary.

> The swap space is not being
> used at all. 

That shows that it is working well.

> That is the problem, on all of the terminals that are
> avaible with Mandrake 9.2 none of them will let the left click menu
> appear. When I used Mandrake 9.1 there was one terminal that had
> that feature, it is not with Mandrake 9.2. 

I'm not sure what you mean by this one, Seven, and since I don't use 
9.2 I'll let someone else try to answer that.

> Is the Konquerer file
> you mentioned the same as the Lilo? Do I need to get both? I booted
> the enterprise kernel and it read the 1024mb of memory right. That
> helped with how much memory is being used, there is still around
> 360mb being used. I would think that is to much but if you are
> right about the programs using that much memory, I guess not. If it
> helps, the questions that are have are in the paragraph. Some of
> them do not have question marks at the end of them and are
> questions within a regular sentence. You should be able to
> understand the paragraph and what the questions are if you
> understand what is happening with the memory problem.
>
Apart from that one bit, I understood your concerns.  Believe me, I 
remember how difficult it is to come to terms with such a fundamental 
difference .  I'm glad that the enterprise kernel appears to be 
working well for you, and I hope that my explanations have made 
things clearer.  I think your terminal question is a different thing, 
though, and it may help to start another thread with a subject 
directly relating to that, as others may be ignoring this thread, 
thinking that Derek and I are dealing with it.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] copy a cd

2003-12-29 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 29 December 2003 12:08, Johan wrote:
> Hi,
> To make an exact copy of a cd will this be the format...
> dd if=xx/zzz/test.iso of=/mnt/cdrom
> or
> dd if=xx/zzz/test.iso of=/dev/hdb
> ***  or   ***
> any other application unknown to me please.
> Thanks
Not sure what you're asking here:
dd will make an exact copy of the in-file (if=) to a write-able medium (i.e. 
HD or floppy) which is the out-file but will not burn it with this command.
You'll need "cdrecord" or one of the gui front-ends for that.

A CD you read from a drive is not in the .iso format, that's an image one can 
download (or make) as a single file. So an iso file would be from HD to a 
CD_writer.
If you want to be able to read (or copy) the content of an .iso file you can 
mount it with the "-o loop" option.

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] Install mandrake 9.2 on AMD k6-2 350MHz

2003-12-29 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 05:25, Morten Andersen wrote:
> I consulted one of my friends. (An old time Linux hacker). Together we 
> tryed all sorts of things. Like different settings in the BIOS. 
> Installation of Debian, new Harddisk. Everything without luck. According to 
> him the problem is that the machine are not capable of making DMA.
> 
> He gave up.
> 
> Right now we are trying to install a Windows version.
> 
> Thanks anyway
> 
> Morten Andersen

Another mobo deal.  Sorry about that.

If you decide you're interested in selling the AMD, mobo and all,
contact me.  I've got some mobos here that need AMD K6 CPU's, and have
old memory requirements.

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Re: [newbie] Physical memory is to high.

2003-12-29 Thread Steven Nelson
I was thinking the disk cache was on the hard drive. Are u sure it is in the 
memory? I know in alot of the Windows versions I have used there was 
settings where you could enable a cache and set the size of it. You might be 
confused or I might be but I thought when memory was not used it is waiting 
for applications to use it or for when you use the applications that would 
be already enabled and they need more memory. I didn't think applications 
should use that much of the memory. Almost all of the memory is gone because 
the applications are using it. If I run out of memory then I will not be 
able to use the computer correctly and it will freeze. Won't other 
applications need the memory? The swap space is not being used at all. That 
is the problem, on all of the terminals that are avaible with Mandrake 9.2 
none of them will let the left click menu appear. When I used Mandrake 9.1 
there was one terminal that had that feature, it is not with Mandrake 9.2. 
Is the Konquerer file you mentioned the same as the Lilo? Do I need to get 
both? I booted the enterprise kernel and it read the 1024mb of memory right. 
That helped with how much memory is being used, there is still around 360mb 
being used. I would think that is to much but if you are right about the 
programs using that much memory, I guess not. If it helps, the questions 
that are have are in the paragraph. Some of them do not have question marks 
at the end of them and are questions within a regular sentence. You should 
be able to understand the paragraph and what the questions are if you 
understand what is happening with the memory problem.

   From,

  Steven




From: Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Physical memory is to high.
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 12:15:51 +
On Monday 29 Dec 2003 11:51 am, Steven Nelson wrote:
> I will try to reply to the email the best I can. I thought the disk 
cache
> and the physical memory did not work together.

Yes they do. Where else could the disc cache be other than in memory?

> If they do that would take
> up alot of space. There is still a problem though. The computer has 512 
mb
> of memory and almost all of it is being used.

Good! If memory is not used it is wasted!

> Alot of programs are using
> 20mb to run. That is to much. Is there a way to fix the problem?
So?  Applications take as much memory as they need. Is your system running
slow? Are you using lots of swap space? If not then there is no problem.
> I cannot
> get the copies of the programs because the terminal will not copy and 
paste

Highlight with mouse to copy to clipboard. Press centre button/mouse wheel 
to
paste.

> and the when I try to open lilo.conf (not sure I am trying to open 
right)
> it states permision denied.

Do it as root.
Alt+F2 will pull up a command box. Type
kdesu konqueror
in the box to get a root copy of konqueror.
Linux is not Windows. Do not expect it be the same. Windows is rubbish at
managing memory. Linux is good at it :-)
derek

>
>  From,
>
>Steven
>
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Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.

2003-12-29 Thread Steven Nelson
That worked, hyper threading is enabled. I do not know if there were 
increases in the speed.

 From,

   Steven


From: et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 11:51:28 +
On Monday 29 December 2003 11:27 am, Steven Nelson wrote:
> Hi, based on the replies you all sent I have a couple questions. I write
> them in order, based on the importance or being more likely to be or fix
> the problem, 1- . One being the first concern. The questions are listed 
in
> order of what needs to be done first, based on my judgement.
>
> 1.(3 questions)
> I have read the information in your replies. The question I have is, is
> there another way to enable hyper threading besides the using the smp
> kernel or updating to 2.6 kernel?
no, but is easier than you think. but does require a reboot, and reconfig 
of
NVidia (if used) drivers.
>Generally there are commands to enable
> features like hyper threading.
not like hyperthreading.
> Are you  sure there is not a command or
> something like it? Also is there a command I can run from the command 
line
> to make sure hyper threading is not enabled?
ctrl+alt+ f2 will get you to a differnet console that should list the 
kernel
used when it asks for a login, if it says smp,,, you are doing it. or you
could as root in a text console do cat /proc/interrupts
and it should list 2 cpus if you are using
> I don't think it is, just to
> be sure though (I didn't notice the penguins during installation).
they do it durring boot up,,, and you should have an smp choice in the lilo 
or
grub boot up screen,

> 2.(no questions)
> I did not notice one or two penguins during the installation.
what about boot up?
> I also wrote
> this above, although if there are any commands it would be helpful to be
> 100% sure ht is enabled. I do not think it is.
when you get it running,,  let me know if you see any change in speed of 
any
app.

> 3.(3 questions)
> If there is not a way to get hyper threading to work with the regular
> kernel, is all that needs to be done is boot from the smp kernel? Will
> booting from that kernel work? Is there anything else that needs to be 
done
> to get hyperthreading enabled in Linux besides booting from the smp 
kernel?
nope

> 4.(2 questions)
> I already installed the kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm, so if you
> install 2.6 kernel the same way, it shouldn't be a problem. Would I need 
to
> use the smp kernel? Would I need to configure it to enable hyper 
threading?
not sure about 2.6 just yet,,, but you will _have_ to boot from an smp or
enterprise kernel to see 2 cpus. period.

>
>   From,
>
> Steven
>
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Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.

2003-12-29 Thread Steven Nelson
That worked, hyper threading is enabled. I do not know if there were 
increases in the speed.

 From,

   Steven


From: et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 11:51:28 +
On Monday 29 December 2003 11:27 am, Steven Nelson wrote:
> Hi, based on the replies you all sent I have a couple questions. I write
> them in order, based on the importance or being more likely to be or fix
> the problem, 1- . One being the first concern. The questions are listed 
in
> order of what needs to be done first, based on my judgement.
>
> 1.(3 questions)
> I have read the information in your replies. The question I have is, is
> there another way to enable hyper threading besides the using the smp
> kernel or updating to 2.6 kernel?
no, but is easier than you think. but does require a reboot, and reconfig 
of
NVidia (if used) drivers.
>Generally there are commands to enable
> features like hyper threading.
not like hyperthreading.
> Are you  sure there is not a command or
> something like it? Also is there a command I can run from the command 
line
> to make sure hyper threading is not enabled?
ctrl+alt+ f2 will get you to a differnet console that should list the 
kernel
used when it asks for a login, if it says smp,,, you are doing it. or you
could as root in a text console do cat /proc/interrupts
and it should list 2 cpus if you are using
> I don't think it is, just to
> be sure though (I didn't notice the penguins during installation).
they do it durring boot up,,, and you should have an smp choice in the lilo 
or
grub boot up screen,

> 2.(no questions)
> I did not notice one or two penguins during the installation.
what about boot up?
> I also wrote
> this above, although if there are any commands it would be helpful to be
> 100% sure ht is enabled. I do not think it is.
when you get it running,,  let me know if you see any change in speed of 
any
app.

> 3.(3 questions)
> If there is not a way to get hyper threading to work with the regular
> kernel, is all that needs to be done is boot from the smp kernel? Will
> booting from that kernel work? Is there anything else that needs to be 
done
> to get hyperthreading enabled in Linux besides booting from the smp 
kernel?
nope

> 4.(2 questions)
> I already installed the kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm, so if you
> install 2.6 kernel the same way, it shouldn't be a problem. Would I need 
to
> use the smp kernel? Would I need to configure it to enable hyper 
threading?
not sure about 2.6 just yet,,, but you will _have_ to boot from an smp or
enterprise kernel to see 2 cpus. period.

>
>   From,
>
> Steven
>
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Re: [newbie] Physical memory is to high.

2003-12-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 29 December 2003 11:51, Steven Nelson wrote:
> I will try to reply to the email the best I can. I thought the disk
> cache and the physical memory did not work together. If they do
> that would take up alot of space. 

What you are seeing is memory cache, not disk cache

> There is still a problem though.
> The computer has 512 mb of memory and almost all of it is being
> used. Alot of programs are using 20mb to run. That is to much. Is
> there a way to fix the problem? 

There is no problem, because cached memory usage is released whenever 
it is needed.

> I cannot get the copies of the
> programs because the terminal will not copy and paste 

To get a copy of lines on a terminal printout you have to use the 
linux way :-)  That is, you sweep your mouse quickly accross the 
required text and release the button.  This is put onto your 
clipboard (which can hold severl entries).  To paste it you 
middle-click the destination.  On a wheel mouse that's the wheel.  On 
a two-button mouse it's usually both buttons together.

> and the when
> I try to open lilo.conf (not sure I am trying to open right) it
> states permision denied.
>
You have to be root to write to it, but I would have expected you to 
be able to read from it (is this a feature of 9.2, folks?).  Anyway, 
you can use the linux way - again, from a root console, type 
cat /etc/lilo.conf - then use the method described above.

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Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.

2003-12-29 Thread Lanman
On 12/29/2003 at 12:10 PM Steven Nelson wrote:



>The hyper threading is enabled in BIOS. I will try booting
from one of
>those kernels. Is there a way to configure the default
kernel so that that hyper 
>will work with it? Are there any type of configuration
options that will 
>help with using ht and the enterprise or smp kernel?
Thanks.
>  
> Steven

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Nope,...not that I know of. In both questions - Nope.
Someone else might have other info on the subject though.

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Re: [newbie] Physical memory is to high.

2003-12-29 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 29 Dec 2003 11:51 am, Steven Nelson wrote:
> I will try to reply to the email the best I can. I thought the disk cache
> and the physical memory did not work together. 

Yes they do. Where else could the disc cache be other than in memory?

> If they do that would take 
> up alot of space. There is still a problem though. The computer has 512 mb
> of memory and almost all of it is being used.

Good! If memory is not used it is wasted!

> Alot of programs are using 
> 20mb to run. That is to much. Is there a way to fix the problem?

So?  Applications take as much memory as they need. Is your system running 
slow? Are you using lots of swap space? If not then there is no problem.

> I cannot 
> get the copies of the programs because the terminal will not copy and paste

Highlight with mouse to copy to clipboard. Press centre button/mouse wheel to 
paste.

> and the when I try to open lilo.conf (not sure I am trying to open right)
> it states permision denied.

Do it as root. 
Alt+F2 will pull up a command box. Type
kdesu konqueror
in the box to get a root copy of konqueror.


Linux is not Windows. Do not expect it be the same. Windows is rubbish at 
managing memory. Linux is good at it :-)


derek

>
>  From,
>
>Steven
>

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Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.

2003-12-29 Thread Steven Nelson



From: "Lanman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 06:41:10 -0500
On 12/29/2003 at 11:27 AM Steven Nelson wrote:

>Hi, based on the replies you all sent I have a couple
questions. I write
>them in order, based on the importance or being more
likely to be or fix
>the
>problem, 1- . One being the first concern. The questions
are listed in
>order
>of what needs to be done first, based on my judgement.
>
>1.(3 questions)
>I have read the information in your replies. The question
I have is, is
>there another way to enable hyper threading besides the
using the smp
>kernel
>or updating to 2.6 kernel? Generally there are commands to
enable features
>like hyper threading. Are you  sure there is not a command
or something
>like
>it? Also is there a command I can run from the command
line to make sure
>hyper threading is not enabled? I don't think it is, just
to be sure
>though
>(I didn't notice the penguins during installation).
>
>2.(no questions)
>I did not notice one or two penguins during the
installation. I also wrote
>this above, although if there are any commands it would be
helpful to be
>100% sure ht is enabled. I do not think it is.
>
>3.(3 questions)
>If there is not a way to get hyper threading to work with
the regular
>kernel, is all that needs to be done is boot from the smp
kernel? Will
>booting from that kernel work? Is there anything else that
needs to be
>done
>to get hyperthreading enabled in Linux besides booting
from the smp kernel?
>
>4.(2 questions)
>I already installed the
kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm, so if you
>install 2.6 kernel the same way, it shouldn't be a
problem. Would I need
>to
>use the smp kernel? Would I need to configure it to enable
hyper threading?
>
>Steven
>
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Steven; Without knowing what motherboard you're running,
I'm not sure if this will help or not, but I had to
manually enable the "Hyper-Threading" option in my BIOS.
After exiting the BIOS, my Asus board reports 2 Intel
Pentium P4-2.8Mgz CPU's, instead of only 1. After that,
it's just a question of booting from either the SMP or
Enterprise kernels, both of which are able to detect and
use multiple CPU's. Both kernels seems to handle everything
nicely ( in Mandrake 9.2 ), and up come the two penguin
icons during a text bootup. I have never seen them appear
when launching a graphical version of LILO. One thing I've
noticed though, is that for the first time, Mandrake
actually runs faster than Windows 2000 now, where it has
been consistently slower in the past, although not by much.
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The hyper threading is enabled in BIOS. I will try booting from one of those 
kernels. Is there a way to configure the default kernel so that that hyper 
will work with it? Are there any type of configuration options that will 
help with using ht and the enterprise or smp kernel? Thanks.

  From,

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RE: [newbie] CD-ROM with scsi emulation

2003-12-29 Thread Dale Kosan
Can we turn of the return receipts request?





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Re: [newbie] Samba 3

2003-12-29 Thread Paul Kaplan
Try the samba mailing lists @ samba.org.  A very helpful group.

On Friday 26 December 2003 09:23 am, robin wrote:
> Has anyone here used Samba 3.0.*? I've got smbclient3 working, but
> smbtar3 seems to be broken - I get error messages about an unacceptable
> user-password combination, even thought the same password works in
> smbclient3.
>
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Re: [newbie] Physical memory is to high.

2003-12-29 Thread Steven Nelson
I will try to reply to the email the best I can. I thought the disk cache 
and the physical memory did not work together. If they do that would take up 
alot of space. There is still a problem though. The computer has 512 mb of 
memory and almost all of it is being used. Alot of programs are using 20mb 
to run. That is to much. Is there a way to fix the problem? I cannot get the 
copies of the programs because the terminal will not copy and paste and the 
when I try to open lilo.conf (not sure I am trying to open right) it states 
permision denied.

From,

  Steven

From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Physical memory is to high.
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:08:54 +
On Sunday 28 December 2003 12:43, et wrote:
> > > >On Sunday 28 December 2003 08:39, Steven Nelson wrote:
> > > > > The computer states that I am using, physical memory is to
> > > > > high. I
> > > >
> > > >Steven, there are two issues here.  First, when you had 1024MB
> > > > RAM installed you should have been using the Enterprise
> > > > kernel - built to correctly handle ram over around 850MB
> > > >
> > > >Second - linux handles memory very differently from windows,
> > > > which tends to cause panic in newbies - I remember the
> > > > feeling :-)  In fact it uses every scrap of memory available
> > > > to it as and whenit needs it. It is much better than windows
> > > > though in detecting the need to let go of something when it
> > > > needs to make space.
> > > >
> > > >Although it looks alarming I have never heard of anyone
> > > > running into actual difficulty through memory use, assuming
> > > > that they had enough installed to get a system running :-)
> > > >
> > > >HTH
> > > >
> > > >Anne
> > > >--
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> > Run top and copy/paste the summary lines at the top of the page.
> >
> > Anne
>
> also copy and paste the section from your /etc/lilo.conf that is
> the 'stanza' you are booting from.
> you can also find memtester and memtest86 on the cdroms
As an example, Steven, compare the two sets below, first soon after I
had re-booted (changed kernel) and then 3 hours later.
top - 10:48:28 up 22 min,  3 users,  load average: 0.06, 0.12, 0.17
Tasks:  94 total,   2 running,  92 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):   5.6% user,   3.9% system,   0.0% nice,  90.5% idle
Mem:511216k total,   317328k used,   193888k free,16640k
buffers
Swap:   771040k total,0k used,   771040k free,   156144k
cached


top - 14:05:39 up  3:39,  3 users,  load average: 0.85, 0.47, 0.26
Tasks:  99 total,   2 running,  97 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  93.4% user,   6.6% system,   0.0% nice,   0.0% idle
Mem:511216k total,   506216k used, 5000k free, 7428k
buffers
Swap:   771040k total, 5456k used,   765584k free,   304532k
cached
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Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.

2003-12-29 Thread et
On Monday 29 December 2003 11:27 am, Steven Nelson wrote:
> Hi, based on the replies you all sent I have a couple questions. I write
> them in order, based on the importance or being more likely to be or fix
> the problem, 1- . One being the first concern. The questions are listed in
> order of what needs to be done first, based on my judgement.
>
> 1.(3 questions)
> I have read the information in your replies. The question I have is, is
> there another way to enable hyper threading besides the using the smp
> kernel or updating to 2.6 kernel? 
no, but is easier than you think. but does require a reboot, and reconfig of 
NVidia (if used) drivers.
>Generally there are commands to enable
> features like hyper threading.
not like hyperthreading.
> Are you  sure there is not a command or 
> something like it? Also is there a command I can run from the command line
> to make sure hyper threading is not enabled?
ctrl+alt+ f2 will get you to a differnet console that should list the kernel 
used when it asks for a login, if it says smp,,, you are doing it. or you 
could as root in a text console do cat /proc/interrupts
and it should list 2 cpus if you are using 
> I don't think it is, just to 
> be sure though (I didn't notice the penguins during installation).
they do it durring boot up,,, and you should have an smp choice in the lilo or 
grub boot up screen, 


> 2.(no questions)
> I did not notice one or two penguins during the installation.
what about boot up?
> I also wrote 
> this above, although if there are any commands it would be helpful to be
> 100% sure ht is enabled. I do not think it is.
when you get it running,,  let me know if you see any change in speed of any 
app.


> 3.(3 questions)
> If there is not a way to get hyper threading to work with the regular
> kernel, is all that needs to be done is boot from the smp kernel? Will
> booting from that kernel work? Is there anything else that needs to be done
> to get hyperthreading enabled in Linux besides booting from the smp kernel?
nope

> 4.(2 questions)
> I already installed the kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm, so if you
> install 2.6 kernel the same way, it shouldn't be a problem. Would I need to
> use the smp kernel? Would I need to configure it to enable hyper threading?
not sure about 2.6 just yet,,, but you will _have_ to boot from an smp or 
enterprise kernel to see 2 cpus. period.

>
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[newbie] financial app

2003-12-29 Thread Johan
Hi,
Thanks for all your suggestions  .. I will be looking into them.

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[newbie] copy a cd

2003-12-29 Thread Johan
Hi,
To make an exact copy of a cd will this be the format...
dd if=xx/zzz/test.iso of=/mnt/cdrom
or
dd if=xx/zzz/test.iso of=/dev/hdb
***  or   ***
any other application unknown to me please.
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Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.

2003-12-29 Thread Lanman
On 12/29/2003 at 11:27 AM Steven Nelson wrote:

>Hi, based on the replies you all sent I have a couple
questions. I write 
>them in order, based on the importance or being more
likely to be or fix
>the 
>problem, 1- . One being the first concern. The questions
are listed in
>order 
>of what needs to be done first, based on my judgement.
>
>1.(3 questions)
>I have read the information in your replies. The question
I have is, is 
>there another way to enable hyper threading besides the
using the smp
>kernel 
>or updating to 2.6 kernel? Generally there are commands to
enable features 
>like hyper threading. Are you  sure there is not a command
or something
>like 
>it? Also is there a command I can run from the command
line to make sure 
>hyper threading is not enabled? I don't think it is, just
to be sure
>though 
>(I didn't notice the penguins during installation).
>
>2.(no questions)
>I did not notice one or two penguins during the
installation. I also wrote 
>this above, although if there are any commands it would be
helpful to be 
>100% sure ht is enabled. I do not think it is.
>
>3.(3 questions)
>If there is not a way to get hyper threading to work with
the regular 
>kernel, is all that needs to be done is boot from the smp
kernel? Will 
>booting from that kernel work? Is there anything else that
needs to be
>done 
>to get hyperthreading enabled in Linux besides booting
from the smp kernel?
>
>4.(2 questions)
>I already installed the
kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm, so if you 
>install 2.6 kernel the same way, it shouldn't be a
problem. Would I need
>to 
>use the smp kernel? Would I need to configure it to enable
hyper threading?
>  
>Steven
>

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Steven; Without knowing what motherboard you're running,
I'm not sure if this will help or not, but I had to
manually enable the "Hyper-Threading" option in my BIOS.
After exiting the BIOS, my Asus board reports 2 Intel
Pentium P4-2.8Mgz CPU's, instead of only 1. After that,
it's just a question of booting from either the SMP or
Enterprise kernels, both of which are able to detect and
use multiple CPU's. Both kernels seems to handle everything
nicely ( in Mandrake 9.2 ), and up come the two penguin
icons during a text bootup. I have never seen them appear
when launching a graphical version of LILO. One thing I've
noticed though, is that for the first time, Mandrake
actually runs faster than Windows 2000 now, where it has
been consistently slower in the past, although not by much.

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Re: [newbie] postfix relaying

2003-12-29 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 29 Dec 2003 2:05 am, Troy T. Hall wrote:
> Ok, well, i'm getting closers.
> gatekeeper can send/recieve mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] from classicnet.net
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] can send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  BUT
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] cannot send mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I get relay denied.  So I'm almost! there.
> Troy

You are being vague again Troy. Are these mails sent from different computers? 
Are they using different SMTP servers? Just changing the identity on your 
mail client does nothing (Spammers do it all the time)

Postfix will transmit mails from any computer on a network declared in 
mynetworks regardless of the identity in the mail.

Where are you seeing these error messages? Have you looked in the logs?

When you send posts from a mail server  the receiving mail server will often 
do a reverse DNS lookup as an anti spam measure to ensure the  domain name of 
the sending party matches the IP address being used.
If you are on a DSL line the reverse DNS look up will return the domain name 
of your ISP and your mails will be rejected.
To get around the problem relay posts via your ISPs mail server with 

relayhost = smtp.my.isp

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Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.

2003-12-29 Thread Steven Nelson
Hi, based on the replies you all sent I have a couple questions. I write 
them in order, based on the importance or being more likely to be or fix the 
problem, 1- . One being the first concern. The questions are listed in order 
of what needs to be done first, based on my judgement.

1.(3 questions)
I have read the information in your replies. The question I have is, is 
there another way to enable hyper threading besides the using the smp kernel 
or updating to 2.6 kernel? Generally there are commands to enable features 
like hyper threading. Are you  sure there is not a command or something like 
it? Also is there a command I can run from the command line to make sure 
hyper threading is not enabled? I don't think it is, just to be sure though 
(I didn't notice the penguins during installation).

2.(no questions)
I did not notice one or two penguins during the installation. I also wrote 
this above, although if there are any commands it would be helpful to be 
100% sure ht is enabled. I do not think it is.

3.(3 questions)
If there is not a way to get hyper threading to work with the regular 
kernel, is all that needs to be done is boot from the smp kernel? Will 
booting from that kernel work? Is there anything else that needs to be done 
to get hyperthreading enabled in Linux besides booting from the smp kernel?

4.(2 questions)
I already installed the kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm, so if you 
install 2.6 kernel the same way, it shouldn't be a problem. Would I need to 
use the smp kernel? Would I need to configure it to enable hyper threading?


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Re: [newbie] Confused

2003-12-29 Thread et
On Monday 29 December 2003 10:38 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 29 December 2003 10:36, Poogle wrote:
> > On Monday 29 Dec 2003 09:23, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Monday 29 December 2003 03:17, John P. Santucci wrote:
> > > >  I get the Mandrake boot up screen. It loads up till the last
> > > > section of the loading screen and then the black screen and I
> > > > hear the KDE music. This is a 3 disk package I received from
> > > > Linux Format magazine. Not the download version.
> > >
> > > That is the final rc
> > >
> > > Anne
> >
> > Anne,
> >
> > Not quite correct,
> >
> > From LXF magazine " Note that the screenshots are from an install
> > of Mandrake 9.2 RC2, the final release candidate. This is because
> > the pages were written before Mandrake was able to send us the
> > final 9.2 release for the discs."
>
> Sorry - you are absolutely right:  I remember reading that.  And there
> were considerable changes between rc2 and the real release, I think,
> which might account for some of the problems seen.
>
> Anne
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Re: [newbie] grsecurity

2003-12-29 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 29 Dec 2003 3:43 am, Troy T. Hall wrote:
> Some program called grsec keeps saying something about "overstepping"
> whenever postfix trys to do something.  I can find almost nothing about it.
> How do I configure this thing?  What is going on?  I have the security
> level set on higher.
> Troy


Troy If you ask vague questions you will get vague answers.
It would help if you actually quoted the precise messages you see,  where you 
see them, and what you did to cause them.

www.google.com/linux is your friend
http://plus-linux.de/wiki.cgi?GrsecurityHowTo

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Re: [newbie] New project - Apache - MySql - Php - Ftp - etc

2003-12-29 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 29 Dec 2003 6:22 am, Trevor Rhodes wrote:
> Hello helper types,
>
> I've finally, finally got all the machines together and online that I've
> been after.  Now I'd like to get the system running with all the above.
>
> While doing that I'd like to document the procedure so it can be added to
> the twiki site.  I noticed there is nothing under the server section, so
> this might be a good way to get that started.  I tried to do it myself and
> to be honest it was more like playing twister in the dark.
>
> Would someone with the knowledge like to help me out (slowly) in getting
> them up and running? and helping with making sure I don't get the doco's
> wrong?
>
> System
>
> 3 PC's running ML9.2 - computers a, b and c
> 1 older PS running Blah'98 - computer d
>
> a and b are our two workstations and c will be the server for all the
> above.
>
> I need to have five sites running as test sites under Apache, only internal
> as they won't be available to the outside world.  MySql is necessary as I
> have three databases on two of the sites so far with more to add later. Php
> is used for dynamic page creation and access to the databases. Ftp because
> it seemed like a good idea for moving the files into their respective
> directories.  Oh, I'd like to put a mailserver on there as well as use it
> for bringing in Mandrake updates and updating all machines from the server
> instead of bringing it in multiple times.
>
> None of this is commercial.  All sites are non-profit and I do them
> voluntarily.
>
> If nobody knows all the above enough to help me I'm quite willing to have
> separate people telling me what to do (but not at once I hope).  hehe
>
> Any takers?
>
>  Regards
>   Trevor Rhodes
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A good start is to install the drakwizard RPM and then restart Mandrake 
Control Centre.
You will see a new 'Server' section containing wizards to set it all up for 
you.
(Do *not* use the Timeserver wizard. A bug in it will screw up your Timezone)

Once Apache is installed you will be able to access any web pages put in 
/var/www/html
You have a choice of using Apache 1.3 or 2.0 either works fine.

To enable PHP install apache2-mod_php and php.ini, restart Apache then any PHP 
pages will be displayed.

To enable mySQL install MySQL and MySQL-client

If you install phpMyAdmin  (in Contrib) then it will install a php application 
which you can reach through http:your_host_addy/phpMyAdmin-2.5.0/index.php
phpmyadmin will display the structure of your mysql databases.

For each of these apps look at the documentation you will find in 
/usr/share/doc  It will describe how to set up an SQL database etc  

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Confused

2003-12-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 29 December 2003 10:36, Poogle wrote:
> On Monday 29 Dec 2003 09:23, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Monday 29 December 2003 03:17, John P. Santucci wrote:
> > >  I get the Mandrake boot up screen. It loads up till the last
> > > section of the loading screen and then the black screen and I
> > > hear the KDE music. This is a 3 disk package I received from
> > > Linux Format magazine. Not the download version.
> >
> > That is the final rc
> >
> > Anne
>
> Anne,
>
> Not quite correct,
>
> From LXF magazine " Note that the screenshots are from an install
> of Mandrake 9.2 RC2, the final release candidate. This is because
> the pages were written before Mandrake was able to send us the
> final 9.2 release for the discs."

Sorry - you are absolutely right:  I remember reading that.  And there 
were considerable changes between rc2 and the real release, I think, 
which might account for some of the problems seen.

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Re: [newbie] Confused

2003-12-29 Thread Poogle
On Monday 29 Dec 2003 09:23, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 29 December 2003 03:17, John P. Santucci wrote:
> >  I get the Mandrake boot up screen. It loads up till the last
> > section of the loading screen and then the black screen and I hear
> > the KDE music. This is a 3 disk package I received from Linux
> > Format magazine. Not the download version.
>
> That is the final rc
>
> Anne
Anne, 

Not quite correct,

>From LXF magazine " Note that the screenshots are from an install of Mandrake 
9.2 RC2, the final release candidate. This is because the pages were written 
before Mandrake was able to send us the final 9.2 release for the discs."
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Re: [newbie] Install mandrake 9.2 on AMD k6-2 350MHz

2003-12-29 Thread Morten Andersen
I consulted one of my friends. (An old time Linux hacker). Together we 
tryed all sorts of things. Like different settings in the BIOS. 
Installation of Debian, new Harddisk. Everything without luck. According to 
him the problem is that the machine are not capable of making DMA.

He gave up.

Right now we are trying to install a Windows version.

Thanks anyway

Morten Andersen



At 00:04 29-12-2003, you wrote:
On Sunday 28 December 2003 09:54 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-12-28 at 16:30, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > On Sunday 28 December 2003 1:23 pm, Lyvim Xaphir droned on:
> > > On Sun, 2003-12-28 at 15:56, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 28 December 2003 9:46 am, Morten Andersen droned on:
> > > > > At 17:02 28-12-2003, you wrote:
> > > > > >try linux acpi=ht mem=120M mem=nopentium noapic
> > > > >
> > > > > That results in absolutely nothing. Just black screen. It doesn't
> > > > > even start loading program into memory.
at this time, hit 'alt+Ctrl+f3' together and see what the screen says
also  alt+Ctrl+f4 and see what error messages you get
On the screen it says Alt+F3 or Alt+F4 (without Ctrl) I tryed that.



> > > > I had a heck of a time getting Mdk 9.2 onto a Pentium 266 Laptop, as
> > > > the CDs were not being read properly. It sounds alot like your
> > > > problem. I have a Dell Inspiron 3200, that now functions great, but
> > > > at 266 speeds.
> > > >
> > > > Try installing using the network.img image, and setting it up to
> > > > either upload the files via NFS or FTP. I hope you have a fast
> > > > connection for either one.
> > > >
> > > > Rob
> > >
> > > I don't think you have to do that; I had the same problem, now that you
> > > mention it.  I just burned the cdrom.img to floppy and booted from
> > > there; after that I was able to install via CDROM.
> >
> > If you have a CD-ROM that can't read the burned disks (I do.) then it is
> > the only way to get Linux on the machine. And when that was the problem,
> > it acted very similar to what was described.
> >
> > Works for me.
> >
> > Rob
>
> Well, I'm starting to remember alot of stuff about the AMD K6 install;
> and I think that my AMD system was freezing at the same point as what
> Morten described.  If the cdrom was incapable of reading the CD then the
> boot process wouldn't have begun at all.  What is happening is a glitch
> during the load, which for some reason does NOT occur when the system
> (here) is booted from floppy, and THEN the cd is read.  (A problem with
> the installation process per se) So therefore I was forced to install
> the Power Pack cd's with a floppy boot on the AMD server; which did work
> fine.
>
> It may be that a cdrom.img floppy/CD install won't work on your machine;
> is that one of the avenues you tried?  Hopefully Mort won't have to go
> that route, as CD installation is much faster.
>
> LX
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Re: [newbie] financial app

2003-12-29 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 11:58:02 +1300
Sharrea Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 08:02, Johan wrote:
> > Any known financial app for linux except gnucash, please
> 
> I use quasar from http://www.linuxcanada.com/ 
> 
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Re: [newbie] confused by Samba

2003-12-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 28 December 2003 23:23, Merlin Zener wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm having another go at trying to get my Mandrake desktop to talk
> to my WIN2K laptop. I tried a while back but gave up.
> I think I'm confusing the basic concepts here - I had the
> impression that I had to use Samba, but just now tonight I've just
> been reading some help pages and they seem to only talk about using
> Samba for windows users to log on to the Linux box. Am I trying to
> use the wrong tool for the job?
>
No, you're not.  Samba allows linux/unix and windows systems to 
communicate - in both directions.  If you want to be able to move 
files in both directions you will need both boxes to be both server 
and client.

On the linux box you must add accounts for each windows user that 
needs to access, making sure that you have the network name, user 
account login name and password identical to the windows account - 
and don't forget that it is case-sensitive.

> My logic would seem to tell me that I have to have a username and
> password set up on the WIN2K box so I made one, but I can't find
> anywhere in Samba to specify the new username and password. I found
> a Wiki page on "Samba basics" which says "WebMin and SWAT both have
> methods for dealing with this, and are easy enough to use that I
> won't cover them." Well that sounded encouraging, so I installed
> Webmin. After much stuffing around and seemingly downloading the
> same set of files 4 times I got Webmin running [don't ask me
> how...]. But in the Samba Share Manager page the only thing I can
> see that is relevant is the link "Edit Samba users and passwords".
> But clicking on that only gives me the message "No Samba users
> defined" - without giving any hint as to how to define them.
>
In webmin you can 'convert unix users to samba users'.  You will then 
need to check each user account and make sure that you have selected 
to use a password, and defined the password.

The other way is to use a root console with the command
smbpasswd -a user_name  which will then ask for a new password.

> I did some more reading and googling without finding a helpful
> instruction page [man Samba doesn't help much, for example! LOL].
> Before I go any further I thought I'd better check in with you guys
> - to get back to the question at the top of this email: am I using
> the wrong tool? [or trying to...]
>
There is an excellent O'Reilly book called Using Samba, which is 
available for download.  It is meaty, though.  I used it a lot when I 
was learning how to set samba up.  There is also a diagnostic set 
originally designed by Andrew Tridgell, to which I have added some 
comments to cover the fact that some commands have changed over the 
years.  A copy is attached.  HTH

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needed with later versions of Samba.  It appears that nmb -L is replaced by nmblookup.



DIAGNOSING YOUR SAMBA SERVER

This file contains a list of tests you can perform to validate your Samba server. It 
also tells you what the likely cause of the problem is if it fails any one of these 
steps. If it passes all these tests then it is probably working fine.

You should do ALL the tests, in the order shown. I have tried to carefully choose them 
so later tests only use capabilities verified in the earlier tests.

I would welcome additions to this set of tests. Please mail them to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you send me an email saying "it doesn't work" and you have not followed this test 
procedure then you should not be surprised if I ignore your email.

ASSUMPTIONS
---
In all of the tests I assume you have a Samba server called BIGSERVER and a PC called 
ACLIENT. I also assume the PC is running windows for workgroups with a recent copy of 
the microsoft tcp/ip stack. The procedure is similar for other types of clients.

I also assume you know the name of a available share in your smb_conf. I will assume 
this share is called "tmp". You can add a "tmp" share like by adding the following to 
smb_conf: 

[tmp]
 comment = temporary files 
 path = /tmp
 read only = yes

These tests also assume version 1.9.14 or later of the samba suite. If you have 
version 1.9.13 then see "NOTE 1" below.


TEST 1:
---
run the command "testparm". If it reports any errors then your
smb_conf configuration file is faulty.


TEST 2:
---
run the command "ping BIGSERVER" from the PC and "ping ACLIENT" from the unix box. If 
you don't get a valid response then your TCP/IP software is not correctly installed. 

Note that you will need to start a "dos prompt" window on the PC to run ping.

If you get a message saying "host not found" or similar then your DNS software or 
/etc/hosts file is not correctly setup. It is possible to run samba without DNS 
entries for the server and client, but I assume you do have correct entries for the 
remainder of th