Re: [newbie] Spammer using my email in "from"

2004-01-07 Thread E. Hines
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 06:30 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote:

>
> However, were I you, I would try to file a complaint with the FTC under the
> new Can-Spam ACT.  Might be it will push them to move to shut him down, at
> the least, it may provide yet more evidence that can be used against a
> spammer that is already in their sites.

Done.  Interestingly enough, the chief sponsor of that (stupid) bill is my own 
Senator from Oregon, Ron Wyden.  In fact, his home town is 20 miles from 
here, and my ISP is located there.   Soo, if the FTC doesn't get back to 
me, we'll see just how responsive a representative I have.

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Re: [newbie] Epson C44 arrived: /dev/usb/lp0 does not exist?

2004-01-07 Thread Michael Holt
On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 21:55, Paul wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I know, I remember your post. But since Turboprint looked so promising, 
> I decided to order the printer. One should expect that it works when 
> support through software/driver is there.
> There is something weird with the USB hookup...
> I tried to get a printer less new, but for some strange reason that did 
> not work. I had aimed for an HP 6xx or so, I know these work. But 
> alas... A new challenge.
> 
> Paul
> 
Hehe; I'm just giving you a hard time :)  I've done the same thing; try
to pick something that you think is going to work and get home to find
out it's the one version that isn't quite supported yet.  
On reading the posts at linuxprinting.org, I came to the conclusion that
Epson did something different with the way they're printing on their new
printers - and honestly, even printing from windows looks pretty bad. 
I'm not really impressed with their new line of printers at all.  I had
an Epson 860 that did great photos and pretty decent speed, but it was
actually cheaper to buy the new printer than to buy the ink cartridges
for the old printer!  Now I know why.  
Anyway, stick to linuxprinting.org.  Till Kamppeter is the guy who
brought much of the great cups printing support to mandrake and he works
on the list quite a bit - if anyone can help you get it working, it will
be him.

http://www.linuxprinting.org/forums.cgi?group=linuxprinting.epson.general

Scroll down the list and you'll see some entries for c44 and how they
got it working.

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Re: [newbie] Epson C44 arrived: /dev/usb/lp0 does not exist?

2004-01-07 Thread Paul
Hi Mike,

I know, I remember your post. But since Turboprint looked so promising, 
I decided to order the printer. One should expect that it works when 
support through software/driver is there.
There is something weird with the USB hookup...
I tried to get a printer less new, but for some strange reason that did 
not work. I had aimed for an HP 6xx or so, I know these work. But 
alas... A new challenge.

Paul

On 01/07/2004 07:52 PM, Michael Holt wrote:

Not to say "I told you so..." but:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg147507.html
Sometimes it's prudent to buy slightly behind cutting edge to assure
that you can get your work done - unless of course your work is to see
if you can get new hardware to work with the system - and in that case,
you may want to subscribe to cooker ;)
Now to your problem; I'm currently testing cooker on a separate hdd and
it does seem to have support now for the c64 - you might try it if you
can't return your c44 to the store which you bought it - no guarantees. 
 



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Re: [newbie] Epson C44 arrived: /dev/usb/lp0 does not exist?

2004-01-07 Thread Paul
On 01/07/2004 06:36 PM, Derek Jennings wrote:

Thanks for the tip. It did not work out, though. The driver is usb-uhci,
but changing that to uhci, the restart complains that there is 'no such
device' and that insmod failed.
   

Ah It may simply be because the old driver was still loaded.
A reboot might behave differently.
 

Okay, I will resort to the windows solution tonight. I'll do a reboot 
with the printer switched on. I hope it is picked up then. Thanks!
Paul

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[newbie] list etiquette - please, this is a question, so don't get any ideas about flames...:-)

2004-01-07 Thread anton
Does anybody know how to do this in mozilla 1.5. I just thought that it 
had to be done manually...

# *Keep the Reply-To setting empty*

   * Please keep you Reply-To field empty when emailing any email list.
 Somewhere in your mailer's settings there is probably the option
 to fill in the Reply-To field. If it is filled in, then whenever a
 fellow listmember replies to your post, the message will go to you
 directly instead of to the list. For information on the problems
 this causes www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/reply-to
 
cheers
anton
who just did it manually...

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Re: [newbie] installing a CDRW

2004-01-07 Thread Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: Charlie Mahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [newbie] installing a CDRW

> 
> Wednesday 07 January 2004 5:40 am, Angus Auld wrote:
> > Greetings, I am waiting for the arrival of my CDRW drive,
> > which I am going to install in my Dell computer to replace
> > the LG CD-ROM (one of the "affected" models for 9.2).
> >
> > I am dual-booting Mandrake 9.1 with Windows on this box,
> > and I would like to ask what is the best way for me to
> > proceed to install this drive?
> > I have enough space for only one CD drive in my case, so I
> > will be removing my CD-ROM, and installing the CDRW.
> > Will HardDrake detect the drive on boot, and install the right
> > driver?
>>**
> Charlie M. wrote:
> After you follow John's advice about the jumpers Angus, get into the BIOS 
> (set-up) and either run auto detection or if the old drive is listed by name 
> and manufacturer or anything but the correct "label" for the new drive change 
> it to auto. Save, exit and reboot. If you have harddrake set to run at boot 
> it should detect and boot normally. After you have logged in open the 
> Mandrake Control Centre, go to the "Mount Points" section, find the CD/DVD 
> burner section and set the correct options for the drive. You should be asked 
> whether you want to write the changes to /etc/fstab, answer yes. Then install 
> whatever software you want to use. Mine uses:
> 
> cdrecord
> cdrecord-cdda2wav
> cdrdao
> cdparanoia
> 
> and the front end I use most often is k3b. When you first run k3b run the 
> set-up but don't let it rewrite fstab. After you finish doing the 
> installation you'll need to either reboot or run mount -a with a disk in the 
> drive. Since you probably run with supermount enabled that should make things 
> work.
> 
> There are lots of choices in the front end department, the previously 
> mentioned k3b, XCDRoast, Toaster, all kinds. The best software is the command 
> line though. (-:
> 
> I suppose all you can do is try them until you find one you like.
> 
> > Also, I would appreciate some advice on CD burning software
> >  for Mandrake that is good and easy to use.
> >
> See above. The drivers are kernel modules (should be) for standard ATAPI 
> devices and that will already be there. You'll have to install burning 
> software for Windows and will probably have more trouble with that than 
> Mandrake.
> - -- 
>***
Thanks a lot for the additional info Charlie. Much 
appreciated. :-)

I have supermount disabled by the way. Never could 
get that to work properly for me. :-/
No probs w/o it though.

Best regards to you.

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[newbie] Can't ping linux host (9.1) & VM win98se guest

2004-01-07 Thread deedee
I've been following the thread Merlin started about not being able 
to ping between his boxes. I've not broken anything, but I still can't 
ping. This is a single portable computer with Mandrake 9.1 host and 
VMWare Workstation 3.2 guest win98se VM. Both agree that the guest is 
192.168.72.128 and that the host is 192.168.72.1. But neither 
can ping the other.

I'm only interested in sharing files between the two systems. I 
am not interested in accessing the web with the win98se VM. This portable
computer is not connected to a real network. It has a real ethernet0 
(vmnet0); VMWare created ethernet1 (vmnet1) and ethernet8 (vmnet8).

I don't know enough about networks, vmware, samba or linux to know 
what of all the information I've gathered you need, so if you can 
ask me questions, I'll be glad to give you what I have.

I do have one actually specific question: I reran vmware-config.pl 
and it said to make certain that smb.conf contained a "socket 
address" line which said my real IP address. I didn't see a "socket 
address" line in the smb.conf to modify. However, testparm showed "socket 
address" equal to "0.0.0.0" which is incorrect.

Can I add a line anywhere to smb.conf as follows?

socket address = 192.168.72.1

Well, okay, another specific question. After I modify smb.conf, 
how do I get the changes to "take"? So far, I've had to restart my 
computer. Is there an easier way?

Thanks,
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[newbie] archives

2004-01-07 Thread Bill W.
Hi,
I don't know what happened to the list over the last little while but I'm
glad to see it is very active. Will there be an update of the archives? Has
that been discussed?

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[newbie] Success with JetFlash 256M removable media

2004-01-07 Thread Littlefish Operator
Maybe this has come up in newbies before, so I appologize in advance.

I've FINALLY got my JetFlash removable media working reliably in 9.2.

The device was being recognized automatically, and reading files just fine,
but when ever I tried to save, data files would get corrupted (yes I did
unmount and wait first).  It was frustratingly un-reliable.

Turns out I needed add the 'sync' paramater to the fstab file entry that
Mandrake auto created for the /mnt/removable.  Now files I transfer to the
drive are copied immediately AND more importantly, they are all transfered
without any data corruption (that I've seen yet).

If you've been fighting to get one of these little beauties working right,
take note...

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Re: [newbie]

2004-01-07 Thread et
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 07:45 pm, Sharrea Day wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:37, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > On Sunday 04 January 2004 5:09 pm, José Carlos Cortizo Pérez droned on:
> > >   Hi:
> > >
> > > I have a dual opteron 246 system with 4G of ram recognized by the Bios
> > > (4096M). But when executing cat /proc/meminfo, i see the system says
> > > there is a memTotal of 3073268. It seems one giga is not recognized by
> > > the kernel. I've tried mem=4000M on startup but the problem is the
> > > same. Someone can help me?
> >
> > The basic kernel cannot see 1Gb of RAM or more, you will need to use the
> > enterprise kernel instead.
>
> ...or the kernel-i686-up-4GB kernel (I _think_ - not sure about your "dual"
> opteron)
>
> Sharrea
I would expect it to need an SMP amd64 kernel so an enterprise AMD64 would do 
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Re: [newbie] Spammer using my email in "from"

2004-01-07 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 09:00 pm, E. Hines wrote:
> Yesterday, I started getting hundreds of bounced messages--all spam for
> this site:  www.yuihjk.biz
> I set my SpamAssassin to be sure that these are recognized and sent to the
> Spam folder, but I am worried that my mailbox is going to fill and then
> bounce real messages.
> Looking at the headers, it is obvious that my email has been put in the
> "from" so it will appear to be legitimate.
> Other than hope this blows over (and delete maybe thousands of
> messages--slow to download on dialup), is there anything else I can do?

Also known as a joe job, there is not really much that you can do about it.  
You can track the headers down and try to get the spammers relay accounts or 
proxies closed down, you can try to track his web site and try to get that 
shut down, make as much trouble for him as possible, but the reality is that 
most people are going to ignore the From line anyway, it is trivially forged 
and no spammer uses his real mail account in the From line.

However, were I you, I would try to file a complaint with the FTC under the 
new Can-Spam ACT.  Might be it will push them to move to shut him down, at 
the least, it may provide yet more evidence that can be used against a 
spammer that is already in their sites.
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[newbie] Spammer using my email in "from"

2004-01-07 Thread E. Hines
Yesterday, I started getting hundreds of bounced messages--all spam for this 
site:  www.yuihjk.biz
I set my SpamAssassin to be sure that these are recognized and sent to the 
Spam folder, but I am worried that my mailbox is going to fill and then 
bounce real messages.
Looking at the headers, it is obvious that my email has been put in the "from" 
so it will appear to be legitimate.
Other than hope this blows over (and delete maybe thousands of messages--slow 
to download on dialup), is there anything else I can do?

e

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Re: [newbie] Help - I broke it!!! [was: unable to ping to/from windoze box]

2004-01-07 Thread Merlin Zener
[...snip]
> That would be Gateway.  You can always use 127.0.0.1 which is the IP 
address 
> for localhost as the DNS.  Gateways should NOT be required, IIRC.  I 
have 
> never used zeroconf to try to network machines together so I don't 
know how 
> zeroconf sets a default DNS or Gateway since there is none.  
Localhost would 
> be my guess, however.
> 
> If you really want to go back to zeroconf and try to let the wizard's 
work 
> things out, you can simply check the DHCP/Bootp/zeroconf checkbox and 
let 
> tmdns generate an IP for you. 

Do you mean for me to do that in the dialup section, or the lan section?

[...snip]
> I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest that you browse 
through some 
> of the available Mandrake Linux documentation, understanding that 
there may 
> be language difficulties.  You may get lucky and find a similar howto 
that is 
> in your native language.
> 

LOL - My native language is Australian! :)
My difficulty is in picking out the bits of info I actually need, 
before my eyes go fuzzy scrolling through page after page of fairly 
heavy going stuff...
Oh and the other thing is knowing *where* to look; last night I was 
trying "man this" and "man that" and not geting anywhere. I wish there 
was a "man troubleshooting" ... :) Thanks a lot for those links you 
gave me; I'm on my way home now, so I'll print your email out and go 
looking when I get there.

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Re: [newbie]

2004-01-07 Thread Sharrea Day
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:37, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> On Sunday 04 January 2004 5:09 pm, José Carlos Cortizo Pérez droned on:
> >   Hi:
> >
> > I have a dual opteron 246 system with 4G of ram recognized by the Bios
> > (4096M). But when executing cat /proc/meminfo, i see the system says
> > there is a memTotal of 3073268. It seems one giga is not recognized by
> > the kernel. I've tried mem=4000M on startup but the problem is the
> > same. Someone can help me?
>
> The basic kernel cannot see 1Gb of RAM or more, you will need to use the
> enterprise kernel instead.

...or the kernel-i686-up-4GB kernel (I _think_ - not sure about your "dual" 
opteron)

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Re: [newbie] hanging box

2004-01-07 Thread Paul O'Rorke
>  Nothin good to say. I was stayin out of this for just that
> reason. And 'cause I don't know why anyone would want an
> nforce* chipset system for running Linux.  They get good reviews
> on Windoze systems hardware review sites, nowhere else.  There
> I've said it ;)

Oh dear!  Unfortunately I'm fairly new at this and as a returning student at 
age 38 to an IT course bought a system from the college with their 
reccomended bits  oh well we live and learn

> To try and be helpful tho, I think a search of the lkml and
> cooker mailing list archives for 'nforce' would be useful.  IIRC
> the usual first advice is to add 'noapic' and 'nolapic' to the
> lilo.conf append line for the kernel being used. In order to
> completely disable Linux kernel Advanced Programable Interrupt
> Control, which nforce does Winsux style and with their
> proprietary drivers.

Did this successfully, most of the refences to APIC in the boot log are 
gone...

>
> Another thing I'd look into is the DDR ram used. Paul cited 1
> gig, but not the PCxxx rating, or better yet, the ns and Cas
> rating and brand. 

Checking the RAM, it is 6 ns  which I think works out to 166Mhz, at any rate 
that is the speed the BIOS reports...  Double Data Rate giving 333Mhz...??  
What is a 'Cas' rating?"  Brand 'Elixr'


> Asus usually specifies ram brands, Crucial is 
> often recommended. At least PC3200 should'a been used for that
> board. Nothin good to say about nforce's "Twinbank" B$ either,
> but I'd try takin one stick of the ram now being used out, and
> see if just one stick does better. Also, better than using an
> enterprise kernel if both sticks are used, pass 'mem=860M' to the
> regular kernel on the lilo.conf append line.  With all lilo.conf
> changes, don't forget to run 'lilo' to actually make the change.

Taking out one stick didn't help, hung on the first reboot.  I'll try 
'mem=860M'

>
>Another source of problems could be the 120GB Western Digital
> SATA HDD.  I believe research before purchase would'a precluded
> getting a SATA drive, and specially a WD brand one for Linux use.
>
> Lockups, freezes, and hangs are an nforce trademark, even on
> many Winblows systems, according to newsgroups. WD's suck, as
> does SATA.  Tol'ya I didn't have anything good to say ;)

Seems like I managed to purchase all the wrong bits  :-(   

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Re: [newbie] hanging box

2004-01-07 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 12:16:57 -0600
Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tol'ya I didn't have anything good to say ;)

I woulda been happy with a suggestion as to what the Tom Brinkman Signal should
look like ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Installing ftp server

2004-01-07 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 13:50:21 -0500
"Steven Vacca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have using Mandrake 7.2, but that hard drive crashed completely.
> I have now installed Mandrake 9.2 onto a new hard drive.
> 
> I have been downloading and uploading files between my Win PC and
> the Mandrake 7.2 PC via FTP using FTP Explorer on my Win PC and
> gFTP on the Mandrake PC.
> 
> But now with the Mandrake 9.2, I do not see ant way to start an FTP
> client. 

One may not have been installed by default. Many changes since 7.2 in the
default apps installed, y'know? Try:

urpmi gftp

> I also am not able to do an FTP connect from my Win PC client,
> FTP Explorer.
> 
> I'm sure I selected to install the FTP services/pkgs.

Is Shorewall enabled on the Mandrake box? If so, it may be blocking connections 
from other machines on your LAN.

> Also, it doesn't seem that the Mandrake 9.2 installed nearly as many
> apps in the K-Menu, such as various text editors, ftp clients, etc.
> There is no Super-User Konqueror to be found.  Did I miss something
> during the install?

For these issues, you may want to take a look at this page:

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Re: [newbie] Core dump

2004-01-07 Thread Richard Urwin
What is the value of LIBAVCODEC_BUILD ?
You will find it in libavcodec/avcodec.h on about line 20.
It will look something like:
   #define LIBAVCODEC_BUILD 
(If it's not there then grep the whole libavcodec directory for it.)

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Re: [newbie] Epson C44 arrived: /dev/usb/lp0 does not exist?

2004-01-07 Thread Michael Holt
On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 08:12, Paul wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I got my new printer in. Epson C44 USB. Hooked it up, and I can see in 
> the logs that it is recognised as a USB bidirectional device:
> 
> Jan  7 16:44:16 nwyfre kernel: usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x4b8/0x5) 
> is not
> claimed by any active driver.
> Jan  7 16:44:19 nwyfre /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup printer for USB 
> product 4b8/5/100
> Jan  7 16:44:20 nwyfre kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usblp
> Jan  7 16:44:20 nwyfre kernel: printer.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional 
> printer dev
> 2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0005
> 
> I am not sure what I should do about "is not claimed by any active 
> driver". Is that caught by 'registered new driver usblp'?
> 
> I ran the Turboprint setup program, finished that up and waited for the 
> testpage. Which did not come.
> So I fired up webmin and found the printer defined but not working. The 
> setup says it is a local file "usb:/dev/usblp0".
> In /dev/ I can't find usblp0 but I do see usb/lp0. Trying to change the 
> output to there in Webmin gives me:
> 
> 
>   Failed to save printer : 'usb:/dev/usb/lp0' does not exist
> 
> But...
> 
> 
>   Failed to save printer : 'usb:/dev/usblp0' does not exist
> 
> also happens. I tried setting it to a local printer 'USB printer 1' and 
> that also hits me on the head, with:
> 
> 
>   Failed to save printer : lpadmin failed :
> 
> lpadmin: add-printer (set device) failed: client-error-not-possible
> 
> I am getting a bit lost now. What do I do wrong, or what do I miss, or 
> what do I have to add so the printer does what it is supposed to do?
> 
> Thanks,
> Paul

Hi Paul,
Not to say "I told you so..." but:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg147507.html
Sometimes it's prudent to buy slightly behind cutting edge to assure
that you can get your work done - unless of course your work is to see
if you can get new hardware to work with the system - and in that case,
you may want to subscribe to cooker ;)

Now to your problem; I'm currently testing cooker on a separate hdd and
it does seem to have support now for the c64 - you might try it if you
can't return your c44 to the store which you bought it - no guarantees. 

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[newbie] Installing ftp server

2004-01-07 Thread Steven Vacca

I have using Mandrake 7.2, but that hard drive crashed completely.
I have now installed Mandrake 9.2 onto a new hard drive.

I have been downloading and uploading files between my Win PC and
the Mandrake 7.2 PC via FTP using FTP Explorer on my Win PC and
gFTP on the Mandrake PC.

But now with the Mandrake 9.2, I do not see ant way to start an FTP
client.  I also am not able to do an FTP connect from my Win PC client,
FTP Explorer.

I'm sure I selected to install the FTP services/pkgs.

Also, it doesn't seem that the Mandrake 9.2 installed nearly as many
apps in the K-Menu, such as various text editors, ftp clients, etc.
There is no Super-User Konqueror to be found.  Did I miss something
during the install?


Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] installing a CDRW

2004-01-07 Thread John Richard Smith
Angus Auld wrote:

Greetings, I am waiting for the arrival of my CDRW drive, 
which I am going to install in my Dell computer to replace 
the LG CD-ROM (one of the "affected" models for 9.2).

I am dual-booting Mandrake 9.1 with Windows on this box, 
and I would like to ask what is the best way for me to 
proceed to install this drive?
I have enough space for only one CD drive in my case, so I 
will be removing my CD-ROM, and installing the CDRW.
Will HardDrake detect the drive on boot, and install the right 
driver? 

Also, I would appreciate some advice on CD burning software 
for Mandrake that is good and easy to use.

TIA for any help on this.
Best regards.
--Angus

 

You don't mention what make of writer you have coming.
Have you installed one before.
Use the same ide line the rom used.
Configure it master(take special care of the diagram on the drive to do 
this)
Then boot up
l think it will probably work as a rom drive on the old /ect/fstab and 
/etc/lilo.conf entries,
but after that you need to do some reconfiguring to get the writer 
optimised for use by the system so best to post your current entries  
and work from there.

Worry about the writer software later after your've got the writer set 
up correctly as a device the system can use.

John

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Re: [newbie] hanging box

2004-01-07 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 07:32 am, JoeHill wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 05:11:47 -0800
>
> "Paul O'Rorke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I went into BIOS as you suggested and set "Rescources
> > Controlled by:" to Manual (as opposed to 'auto ESCD'), and
> > hung up on that very reboot, so I returned it to 'auto'.
>
> Hmmm, I'm not sure that's the same thing as Plug and Play.
>
> > I thought that Mandrake 9.2 is a PnP aware OS..??  Am I wrong
> > here?
>
> Again, not sure about that. It *does* do it's own auto hardware
> detection, but I don't believe that is the same thing as "Plug
> and Play", which AFAIK is strictly a Windows thang.
>
> I'm firing up the "Tom Brinkman Signal" as we speak ;-)
>
> Hmmm, what *would* the Tom Brinkman Signal look like anyway?

 Nothin good to say. I was stayin out of this for just that 
reason. And 'cause I don't know why anyone would want an 
nforce* chipset system for running Linux.  They get good reviews 
on Windoze systems hardware review sites, nowhere else.  There 
I've said it ;)

To try and be helpful tho, I think a search of the lkml and 
cooker mailing list archives for 'nforce' would be useful.  IIRC 
the usual first advice is to add 'noapic' and 'nolapic' to the 
lilo.conf append line for the kernel being used. In order to 
completely disable Linux kernel Advanced Programable Interrupt 
Control, which nforce does Winsux style and with their 
proprietary drivers.

Another thing I'd look into is the DDR ram used. Paul cited 1 
gig, but not the PCxxx rating, or better yet, the ns and Cas 
rating and brand.  Asus usually specifies ram brands, Crucial is 
often recommended. At least PC3200 should'a been used for that 
board. Nothin good to say about nforce's "Twinbank" B$ either, 
but I'd try takin one stick of the ram now being used out, and 
see if just one stick does better. Also, better than using an 
enterprise kernel if both sticks are used, pass 'mem=860M' to the 
regular kernel on the lilo.conf append line.  With all lilo.conf 
changes, don't forget to run 'lilo' to actually make the change.

   Another source of problems could be the 120GB Western Digital 
SATA HDD.  I believe research before purchase would'a precluded 
getting a SATA drive, and specially a WD brand one for Linux use.

Lockups, freezes, and hangs are an nforce trademark, even on 
many Winblows systems, according to newsgroups. WD's suck, as 
does SATA.  Tol'ya I didn't have anything good to say ;)
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Re: [newbie] Help - I broke it!!! [was: unable to ping to/from windoze box]

2004-01-07 Thread E. Hines
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 06:52 am, Merlin Zener wrote:
> Hi,
>
> First, I set both windoze boxes to static IP addresses, and verified
> they still talk to each other. The desktop refuses to shut down now,
> it just goes to blue screen and stays there. But I could care less
> about that atm, I can just hit the reset switch and boot into Linux
> and shut down cleanly from there. That's not the problem. The problem
> is I've killed my internet connection. I'm typing this in a net cafe,
> after setting up a new account and subscribing it to the list.
> [btw what's with the archives at mandrake.com only going up till
> Nov03?]
>
> I ran the drakeconnect wizard again, but it wouldn't let me NOT put in
> a DNS server or [the other one - I can't remember now] It complained
> that the DNS Server should be in the form n.n.n.n and suggested [IIRC]
> 186.192.0.3 and 186.192.0.2. I'm not sure of those numbers, I'm going
> from memory here. It was 7AM when I was trying to sort out what was
> going wrong and that's late, even for me...
>
> When I start KPPP it dials and connects to the ISP ok, but then
> nothing further happens. Evolution times out with "unknown reason" and
> all web pages return "connection refused". I ran the wizard again and
> it had obliterated my dialup account - I had to go searching through
> boxes and boxes of bits of paper and receipts etc to find the original
> signup stuff from the ISP so I could re-enter the dialin numbers and
> username and password again. But still, the same symptoms, no matter
> what I tried. It seems like regardless of the state of the dialup, the
> network connection seems to want to take over.
>
>
I'm late on this thread, but I've been following it.  For starters, I never 
setup my dialup with the Wizard.  It has fsck'd my dialup before.  My rule 
is, ALWAYS use kppp Configuration in dialog mode to setup the modem.  When 
setting up the connection, on the IP screen, check "Dynamic IP Address".  On 
the Gateway screen check "default gateway", unless your ISP assigns one, then 
you have to check the other box and type in the gateway IP.  On the DNS 
screen, type in the name of your ISP, example   myisp.net  , and check the 
"manual" box.  Type in the IP address of your ISP's DNS servers and add them, 
one at a time.  Check the box for "DISABLE EXISTING DNS SERVERS DURING 
CONNECTION.  Check to see the you can communicate with your modem, and that 
your ISP dialup numbers are correct.  Back out to the dialup box, saving as 
you go.  Type in your username and password.

Your connection should work.  If not, go to /etc/resolv.conf and check what it 
says.  There should be only one line, something like this:

search Your_Lan_Workgroup_Name myisp.net local

mine looks like this:

search Hilltop gorge.net local

If it still doesn't work, /etc/sysconfig/network should only contain the lines

NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME="your_machine_name.Your_Lan_Workgroup_Name"

Your internet connection should work, now.  The LAN is another problem, but 
one thing at a time.  Usually, the Wizard is o.k. for a LAN setup.

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Re: [newbie] hanging box

2004-01-07 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:24:37 -0800
"Paul O'Rorke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I did get a comment earlier that the 2.4.22-10mdkenterprise kernel I
> was using (and can still boot to) can utilise 1024MB, but I also
> noticed in the boot.log that the correct physical memory was detected
> and then set to 845MB (or there abouts).  Problem is the machine was
> hanging even then - thus the upgrade to 2.4.22-21 in the first place.

That is the normal kernel behavior with memory, that which it can not
use it ignores.

As t your system hangs I feel that it is almost definitely being caused
by a hw issue.
'bad' memory
'bad' hd
'bad' video
'bad' pw
'bad' cpu

Have you verified the integrity of any of these components?

On this, my main system, a period of time after building began suffering
from lock-ups.
At first they produced little content other than forcing a hard reset
but that I began to suffer data corruption.

I re-installed maybe a doz times
  Disconnected and reconnected all hw 
  tested and swapped memory, hds, vid card even cpu but still system
  would lock.

Having little hair remaining to 'pull-out' and a forehead flattened from
beating it against the wall I chanced to discover that the wiring
harness from the pw was not securely locked to the mobo.
System vibrations were causing just enough interruption to afflict my
system and drive me crazy.
Rectifying that completly solved the problem for me and I have had no
other problem with this system.


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RE: [newbie] Upgrading, backing up, and restoring data - moving from 9.1 to 9.2

2004-01-07 Thread Tango Echo
>-Original Message-
>From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:43 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [newbie] Upgrading, backing up, and
restoring 
>data - moving from 9.1 to 9.2
>
>On Wednesday 07 Jan 2004 4:13 pm, Tango Echo wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've recently decided to take the plunge and use
9.2
>> as my base OS.  I'm performing a clean install on a
>> brand new hard drive.  My old mdk 9.1 install still
>> resides on two old hard disks.  My question is
this:
>>
>> Is there a simple way to restore my data from 9.1?
>> The main apps that need to be restored are GAIM,
>> Evolution, and Kmail.  While I do need the info
back
>> from them, I DO NOT want to over write system files
>> since 9.2 has newer packages installed.  I've heard
>> some people just copy the old folder back (so I'd
copy
>> my old Tango directory to over write my current
Tango directory).  
>> That would over write the sys files IMO. I know
Mandrake has a 
>> backup/restore utility too, but I'm not sure if
that applies here.
>>
>> Lastly, if no solution is available, why not?  It
>> would seem simple enough to me.  Just make a
program
>> or bash script that copies all the data files (not
>> system files) to another hard drive or cd, then run
it
>> again to restore them.  I'm sure many of you must
go
>> thru this at the rate we upgrade.  This is the
biggest
>> pain of the upgrade procedure IMO.  Tweaking my eye
>> candy in the new version, etc is no big deal, it's
>> trying to remember what files go where
>> w/backup/restore, etc.
>>
>> Any ideas here?
>>
>The only places where configuration is held is in
/etc  for system 
>configuration and in your home directory for user
configuration.
>
>So for example to have the same samba configuration
in your 
>new set up copy 
>the old contents into /etc/samba
>
>To get your user setting for gaim back just copy the
contents 
>of ~/.gaim  back 
>into your home. (Note files beginning with '.' are
hidden)
>
>Many of us get around the issue by keeping /home on a
separate 
>partition, and 
>then simply not formatting that partition when doing
a new 
>install. All your 
>configurations and user files are therefore
preserved.
>
>One work of warning though. All files in Linux have a
UID 
>(User Ident Number) 
>and GID (Group Ident Number) It is vital for your
users to 
>have the same 
>UID/GID numbers between installs or else you would
end up not 
>owning your own 
>files. The simple way around the issue is to always
add your 
>users in the 
>same order when you install. The first user is UID
501 the 
>second is 502 etc. (This gets a bit complicated if
you use 
>Userdrake to add users because it will 
>start adding users with a UID of 500)
>
>BTW: If you use drakbackup  to back up your system it
will 
>save the users home 
>directories and the contents of /etc which you can
then use to 
>set up a new  
>install.
>
>derek

Thanks for the detailed reply Derek =) !
Now, am I understanding you correctly that worrying
about app file over writes is not an issue?  That was
primarily what I was worried about.  For example, if
app files such as those that make up mozilla 1.3 are
in the Tango directory and I install 9.2, will 1.3 be
the browser if I copy the Tango dir back? Or are all
working app files stored outside of ~ ?  I realize you
said sys config files are in /etc but I want to make
sure you didn't mean app files - those that make up
the actual program (probably should've used 'app file'
vs. 'sys file').

I've heard of the seperate /home partition, but looks
like this will be something I need to do!  Can you
give me a modern expectation for size allocation of /?
I've heard 1.5 - 2 times for swap, and /home takes
what's left after /, but I've never really known what
to allocate for just /... I've got around 50 GB to
spare for the partitioning.

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Re: [newbie] Epson C44 arrived: /dev/usb/lp0 does not exist?

2004-01-07 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 07 Jan 2004 5:26 pm, Paul wrote:
> Hi Derek,
> Thanks for the tip. It did not work out, though. The driver is usb-uhci,
> but changing that to uhci, the restart complains that there is 'no such
> device' and that insmod failed.
> Paul
>
> On 01/07/2004 05:49 PM, Derek Jennings wrote:
> >The solution I found was to change my USB driver. In /etc/modules.conf I
> > had usb-uhci  I changed that to the uhci driver then 'service usb
> > restart' and the printer now works 'perfectly'.
> >
> >Depending on your hardware the same might help you  (If your driver is
> >currently 'ohci' then there is no alternate driver)

Ah It may simply be because the old driver was still loaded.
A reboot might behave differently.

derek

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Re: [newbie] Epson C44 arrived: /dev/usb/lp0 does not exist?

2004-01-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 17:26, Paul wrote:
> Hi Derek,
> Thanks for the tip. It did not work out, though. The driver is
> usb-uhci, but changing that to uhci, the restart complains that
> there is 'no such device' and that insmod failed.
> Paul
>
> On 01/07/2004 05:49 PM, Derek Jennings wrote:
> >The solution I found was to change my USB driver. In
> > /etc/modules.conf I had usb-uhci  I changed that to the uhci
> > driver then 'service usb restart' and the printer now works
> > 'perfectly'.
> >
> >Depending on your hardware the same might help you  (If your
> > driver is currently 'ohci' then there is no alternate driver)

Can you find out from Epson whether it needs usb-uhci or usb-ohci?

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Re: [newbie] Epson C44 arrived: /dev/usb/lp0 does not exist?

2004-01-07 Thread Paul
Hi Derek,
Thanks for the tip. It did not work out, though. The driver is usb-uhci, 
but changing that to uhci, the restart complains that there is 'no such 
device' and that insmod failed.
Paul

On 01/07/2004 05:49 PM, Derek Jennings wrote:

The solution I found was to change my USB driver. In /etc/modules.conf I had 
usb-uhci  I changed that to the uhci driver then 'service usb restart' and 
the printer now works 'perfectly'.

Depending on your hardware the same might help you  (If your driver is 
currently 'ohci' then there is no alternate driver)


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Re: [newbie] hanging box

2004-01-07 Thread Paul O'Rorke
On January 7, 2004 08:48 am, JoeHill wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 08:27:52 -0800
>
> "Paul O'Rorke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So I am still unsure what is best to do.  Should I say yes to the check
> > offered in the boot process after an improper shutdown (hang)?  This can
> > mean many attempts at recovery before I get back to a running system.  I
> > usually give up after 10~12 consecutive 'hangings'.  And more to the
> > point is this a known problem with my hardware configuration (see
> > original 'hanging box' post) or am I faced with faulty hardware and how
> > do I tell?
> >
> > I thought the ASUS A7N8X APIC hanging issue was addressed in the
> > 2.4.22-21 kernel update.
>
> Ah, yes, sorry to go off like that...here *I* am hijacking...
>
> Anyhow, I did go back to your original post, and I notice that you have
> more than 1GB of RAM. IIRC, you should either be using the enterprise
> kernel, or configuring LILO to use less than the full GB, something like
>
> 'mem=800'
>
> Notice I said 'IIRC', which means I would wait for a second opinion/more
> responses on that one.
>
> Anyone?
>
> In the interim, check the archives for posts about this, it has come up
> fairly often.

I did get a comment earlier that the 2.4.22-10mdkenterprise kernel I was using 
(and can still boot to) can utilise 1024MB, but I also noticed in the 
boot.log that the correct physical memory was detected and then set to 845MB 
(or there abouts).  Problem is the machine was hanging even then - thus the 
upgrade to 2.4.22-21 in the first place.

No worries about the digression - I like to learn  :-)

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RE: [newbie] 9.2 good now?

2004-01-07 Thread Tango Echo
>-Original Message-
>From: Eric Huff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:38 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
>
>
>> Is there something wrong with the USA 9.2 contrib
>> mirrors?  I can't seem to get them to work =/
>
>Did you remove the bad ones before adding a different
one?
>

If urpmi.removemedia -a removes them all, then yes.  I
did that then put in main, contrib, update, and plf
thru Easy Urpmi.  Tried to use secsup for main,
contrib, and update... maybe easy urpmi is messed?

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Re: [newbie] Epson C44 arrived: /dev/usb/lp0 does not exist?

2004-01-07 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 07 Jan 2004 4:12 pm, Paul wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I got my new printer in. Epson C44 USB. Hooked it up, and I can see in
> the logs that it is recognised as a USB bidirectional device:
>
> Jan  7 16:44:16 nwyfre kernel: usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x4b8/0x5)
> is not
> claimed by any active driver.
> Jan  7 16:44:19 nwyfre /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup printer for USB
> product 4b8/5/100
> Jan  7 16:44:20 nwyfre kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usblp
> Jan  7 16:44:20 nwyfre kernel: printer.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional
> printer dev
> 2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0005
>
> I am not sure what I should do about "is not claimed by any active
> driver". Is that caught by 'registered new driver usblp'?
>
> I ran the Turboprint setup program, finished that up and waited for the
> testpage. Which did not come.
> So I fired up webmin and found the printer defined but not working. The
> setup says it is a local file "usb:/dev/usblp0".
> In /dev/ I can't find usblp0 but I do see usb/lp0. Trying to change the
> output to there in Webmin gives me:
>
>
>   Failed to save printer : 'usb:/dev/usb/lp0' does not exist
>
> But...
>
>
>   Failed to save printer : 'usb:/dev/usblp0' does not exist
>
> also happens. I tried setting it to a local printer 'USB printer 1' and
> that also hits me on the head, with:
>
>
>   Failed to save printer : lpadmin failed :
>
> lpadmin: add-printer (set device) failed: client-error-not-possible
>
> I am getting a bit lost now. What do I do wrong, or what do I miss, or
> what do I have to add so the printer does what it is supposed to do?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul

I got a new printer this week too, an HP5550 (only £52 from Argos)
I got it because www.linuxprinting.org said it worked 'perfectly' with linux.

I was disappointed to have a similar experience as you. The printer was 
detected, but nothing would print on it.

The solution I found was to change my USB driver. In /etc/modules.conf I had 
usb-uhci  I changed that to the uhci driver then 'service usb restart' and 
the printer now works 'perfectly'.

Depending on your hardware the same might help you  (If your driver is 
currently 'ohci' then there is no alternate driver)

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Re: [newbie] hanging box

2004-01-07 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 08:27:52 -0800
"Paul O'Rorke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So I am still unsure what is best to do.  Should I say yes to the check 
> offered in the boot process after an improper shutdown (hang)?  This can mean 
> many attempts at recovery before I get back to a running system.  I usually 
> give up after 10~12 consecutive 'hangings'.  And more to the point is this a 
> known problem with my hardware configuration (see original 'hanging box' 
> post) or am I faced with faulty hardware and how do I tell?
> 
> I thought the ASUS A7N8X APIC hanging issue was addressed in the 2.4.22-21 
> kernel update. 

Ah, yes, sorry to go off like that...here *I* am hijacking...

Anyhow, I did go back to your original post, and I notice that you have more
than 1GB of RAM. IIRC, you should either be using the enterprise kernel, or
configuring LILO to use less than the full GB, something like

'mem=800'

Notice I said 'IIRC', which means I would wait for a second opinion/more
responses on that one.

Anyone?

In the interim, check the archives for posts about this, it has come up fairly
often.

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Re: [newbie] Upgrading, backing up, and restoring data - moving from 9.1 to 9.2

2004-01-07 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 07 Jan 2004 4:13 pm, Tango Echo wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've recently decided to take the plunge and use 9.2
> as my base OS.  I'm performing a clean install on a
> brand new hard drive.  My old mdk 9.1 install still
> resides on two old hard disks.  My question is this:
>
> Is there a simple way to restore my data from 9.1?
> The main apps that need to be restored are GAIM,
> Evolution, and Kmail.  While I do need the info back
> from them, I DO NOT want to over write system files
> since 9.2 has newer packages installed.  I've heard
> some people just copy the old folder back (so I'd copy
> my old Tango directory to over write my current Tango
> directory).  That would over write the sys files IMO.
> I know Mandrake has a backup/restore utility too, but
> I'm not sure if that applies here.
>
> Lastly, if no solution is available, why not?  It
> would seem simple enough to me.  Just make a program
> or bash script that copies all the data files (not
> system files) to another hard drive or cd, then run it
> again to restore them.  I'm sure many of you must go
> thru this at the rate we upgrade.  This is the biggest
> pain of the upgrade procedure IMO.  Tweaking my eye
> candy in the new version, etc is no big deal, it's
> trying to remember what files go where
> w/backup/restore, etc.
>
> Any ideas here?
>
The only places where configuration is held is in /etc  for system 
configuration and in your home directory for user configuration.

So for example to have the same samba configuration in your new set up copy 
the old contents into /etc/samba

To get your user setting for gaim back just copy the contents of ~/.gaim  back 
into your home. (Note files beginning with '.' are hidden)

Many of us get around the issue by keeping /home on a separate partition, and 
then simply not formatting that partition when doing a new install. All your 
configurations and user files are therefore preserved.

One work of warning though. All files in Linux have a UID (User Ident Number) 
and GID (Group Ident Number) It is vital for your users to have the same 
UID/GID numbers between installs or else you would end up not owning your own 
files. The simple way around the issue is to always add your users in the 
same order when you install. The first user is UID 501 the second is 502 etc.
(This gets a bit complicated if you use Userdrake to add users because it will 
start adding users with a UID of 500)

BTW: If you use drakbackup  to back up your system it will save the users home 
directories and the contents of /etc which you can then use to set up a new  
install.

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?

2004-01-07 Thread Eric Huff
> Is there something wrong with the USA 9.2 contrib
> mirrors?  I can't seem to get them to work =/

Did you remove the bad ones before adding a different one?

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[newbie] Epson C44 arrived: /dev/usb/lp0 does not exist?

2004-01-07 Thread Paul
Hello all,

I got my new printer in. Epson C44 USB. Hooked it up, and I can see in 
the logs that it is recognised as a USB bidirectional device:

Jan  7 16:44:16 nwyfre kernel: usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x4b8/0x5) 
is not
claimed by any active driver.
Jan  7 16:44:19 nwyfre /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup printer for USB 
product 4b8/5/100
Jan  7 16:44:20 nwyfre kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usblp
Jan  7 16:44:20 nwyfre kernel: printer.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional 
printer dev
2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0005

I am not sure what I should do about "is not claimed by any active 
driver". Is that caught by 'registered new driver usblp'?

I ran the Turboprint setup program, finished that up and waited for the 
testpage. Which did not come.
So I fired up webmin and found the printer defined but not working. The 
setup says it is a local file "usb:/dev/usblp0".
In /dev/ I can't find usblp0 but I do see usb/lp0. Trying to change the 
output to there in Webmin gives me:

 Failed to save printer : 'usb:/dev/usb/lp0' does not exist

But...

 Failed to save printer : 'usb:/dev/usblp0' does not exist

also happens. I tried setting it to a local printer 'USB printer 1' and 
that also hits me on the head, with:

 Failed to save printer : lpadmin failed :

lpadmin: add-printer (set device) failed: client-error-not-possible

I am getting a bit lost now. What do I do wrong, or what do I miss, or 
what do I have to add so the printer does what it is supposed to do?

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] hanging box

2004-01-07 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:51:49 -0500
Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hardware and software errors that corrupt random blocks in the
> filesystem are not generally recoverable with the transaction log and
> necessitate the usage of fsck.
> 
> After a crash or hard reset is when these hardware and software errors
> are most likely to manifest themselves. 
> Choosing to skip fsck will allow these errors to not only remain but
> also allow them to propagate and fester.
> This may appear to have no effect on system performance or behaviour 
> but as time progresses, depending upon the root cause of the error, the
> system behaviour may and can become erratic leading to even
> non-recoverability and a forced reinstall.

Thanks for the explanation! Saved me some time on Google... :-D

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Re: [newbie] hanging box

2004-01-07 Thread Paul O'Rorke
On January 7, 2004 07:51 am, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:04:26 -0500
>
> JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Unless I am minsunderstanding you, and fsck is used *in the recovery
> > of the journal*?
>
> True for ext3, it is and should never be used for ReisferFS or XFS
>
> > I am also assuming that the 'file system integrity check' offered
> > during the boot process is the same thing as 'fsck'.
>
> No.
> Fsck would be invoked If anomalies were found during the 'file system
> integrity check'
>
> Disk transactions are written sequentially to an area of disk called
> journal or log before being written to their final locations within the
> filesystem. Implementations vary in terms of what data is written to the
> log. Some implementations write only the filesystem metadata, while
> others record all writes to the journal.
>
> Now, if a crash happens before the journal entry is committed, then the
> original data is still on the disk and you lost only your new changes.
> If the crash happens during the actual disk update (i.e. after the
> journal entry was committed), the journal entry shows what was supposed
> to have happened. So when the system reboots, it can simply replay the
> journal entries and complete the update that was interrupted.
>
> In either case, you have valid data and not a trashed partition. And
> since the recovery time associated with this log-based approach is much
> shorter, the system is on line in few seconds.
>
> Hardware and software errors that corrupt random blocks in the
> filesystem are not generally recoverable with the transaction log and
> necessitate the usage of fsck.
>
> After a crash or hard reset is when these hardware and software errors
> are most likely to manifest themselves.
> Choosing to skip fsck will allow these errors to not only remain but
> also allow them to propagate and fester.
> This may appear to have no effect on system performance or behaviour
> but as time progresses, depending upon the root cause of the error, the
> system behaviour may and can become erratic leading to even
> non-recoverability and a forced reinstall.
>
>
>
> Charles

So I am still unsure what is best to do.  Should I say yes to the check 
offered in the boot process after an improper shutdown (hang)?  This can mean 
many attempts at recovery before I get back to a running system.  I usually 
give up after 10~12 consecutive 'hangings'.  And more to the point is this a 
known problem with my hardware configuration (see original 'hanging box' 
post) or am I faced with faulty hardware and how do I tell?

I thought the ASUS A7N8X APIC hanging issue was addressed in the 2.4.22-21 
kernel update. 
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[newbie] Upgrading, backing up, and restoring data - moving from 9.1 to 9.2

2004-01-07 Thread Tango Echo
Hi all,

I've recently decided to take the plunge and use 9.2
as my base OS.  I'm performing a clean install on a
brand new hard drive.  My old mdk 9.1 install still
resides on two old hard disks.  My question is this:

Is there a simple way to restore my data from 9.1? 
The main apps that need to be restored are GAIM,
Evolution, and Kmail.  While I do need the info back
from them, I DO NOT want to over write system files
since 9.2 has newer packages installed.  I've heard
some people just copy the old folder back (so I'd copy
my old Tango directory to over write my current Tango
directory).  That would over write the sys files IMO. 
I know Mandrake has a backup/restore utility too, but
I'm not sure if that applies here.

Lastly, if no solution is available, why not?  It
would seem simple enough to me.  Just make a program
or bash script that copies all the data files (not
system files) to another hard drive or cd, then run it
again to restore them.  I'm sure many of you must go
thru this at the rate we upgrade.  This is the biggest
pain of the upgrade procedure IMO.  Tweaking my eye
candy in the new version, etc is no big deal, it's
trying to remember what files go where
w/backup/restore, etc.

Any ideas here?

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Re: [newbie] Help - I broke it!!! [was: unable to ping to/from windoze box]

2004-01-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 15:37, Bryan Phinney wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 January 2004 09:52 am, Merlin Zener wrote:
> > I ran the drakeconnect wizard again, but it wouldn't let me NOT
> > put in a DNS server or [the other one - I can't remember now] It
> > complained that the DNS Server should be in the form n.n.n.n and
> > suggested [IIRC] 186.192.0.3 and 186.192.0.2. I'm not sure of
> > those numbers, I'm going from memory here. It was 7AM when I was
> > trying to sort out what was going wrong and that's late, even for
> > me...
>
> That would be Gateway.  You can always use 127.0.0.1 which is the
> IP address for localhost as the DNS.  Gateways should NOT be
> required, IIRC.  I have never used zeroconf to try to network
> machines together so I don't know how zeroconf sets a default DNS
> or Gateway since there is none.  Localhost would be my guess,
> however.
>
As I said before, I know nothing about zeroconfig, so these remarks 
are addressed to Bryan :-)  I have always expected a dns server 
address to be required for resolution of Internet addresses, i.e. the 
dns server of his isp.  I was under the impression that he is 
connected to the Internet by one or other of these two computers.  If 
they are sharing one access, that is why I told him to put a gateway 
address on the other machine.

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RE: [newbie] 9.2 good now?

2004-01-07 Thread Tango Echo
>I think you'll find that if you do a fresh install of
9.2 and 
>immediately 
>apply all the bugfixes and updates before doing
anything else, 
>that you will 
>find it to be a very sweet distro.

Indeed! The basic overview has been very impressive so
far.  However, I have yet to really put it to the
test. One more quick question:

Is there something wrong with the USA 9.2 contrib
mirrors?  I can't seem to get them to work =/

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Re: [newbie] hanging box

2004-01-07 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:04:26 -0500
JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Unless I am minsunderstanding you, and fsck is used *in the recovery
> of the journal*?

True for ext3, it is and should never be used for ReisferFS or XFS

> 
> I am also assuming that the 'file system integrity check' offered
> during the boot process is the same thing as 'fsck'.

No.
Fsck would be invoked If anomalies were found during the 'file system
integrity check'

Disk transactions are written sequentially to an area of disk called
journal or log before being written to their final locations within the
filesystem. Implementations vary in terms of what data is written to the
log. Some implementations write only the filesystem metadata, while
others record all writes to the journal.

Now, if a crash happens before the journal entry is committed, then the
original data is still on the disk and you lost only your new changes.
If the crash happens during the actual disk update (i.e. after the
journal entry was committed), the journal entry shows what was supposed
to have happened. So when the system reboots, it can simply replay the
journal entries and complete the update that was interrupted. 

In either case, you have valid data and not a trashed partition. And
since the recovery time associated with this log-based approach is much
shorter, the system is on line in few seconds.
 
Hardware and software errors that corrupt random blocks in the
filesystem are not generally recoverable with the transaction log and
necessitate the usage of fsck.

After a crash or hard reset is when these hardware and software errors
are most likely to manifest themselves. 
Choosing to skip fsck will allow these errors to not only remain but
also allow them to propagate and fester.
This may appear to have no effect on system performance or behaviour 
but as time progresses, depending upon the root cause of the error, the
system behaviour may and can become erratic leading to even
non-recoverability and a forced reinstall.



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Re: [newbie] Help - I broke it!!! [was: unable to ping to/from windoze box]

2004-01-07 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 09:52 am, Merlin Zener wrote:

> I ran the drakeconnect wizard again, but it wouldn't let me NOT put in
> a DNS server or [the other one - I can't remember now] It complained
> that the DNS Server should be in the form n.n.n.n and suggested [IIRC]
> 186.192.0.3 and 186.192.0.2. I'm not sure of those numbers, I'm going
> from memory here. It was 7AM when I was trying to sort out what was
> going wrong and that's late, even for me...

That would be Gateway.  You can always use 127.0.0.1 which is the IP address 
for localhost as the DNS.  Gateways should NOT be required, IIRC.  I have 
never used zeroconf to try to network machines together so I don't know how 
zeroconf sets a default DNS or Gateway since there is none.  Localhost would 
be my guess, however.

If you really want to go back to zeroconf and try to let the wizard's work 
things out, you can simply check the DHCP/Bootp/zeroconf checkbox and let 
tmdns generate an IP for you.  Then you can ping hostname to get the IP 
address that has been generated and add that to the hosts file under Windows 
and hope that it stays the same each time you boot up.

I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest that you browse through some 
of the available Mandrake Linux documentation, understanding that there may 
be language difficulties.  You may get lucky and find a similar howto that is 
in your native language.

Below are links that should be available on your local Linux machine that can 
talk you through how to setup networking on your machine step by step.  This 
is probably much better for you than asking general questions and having us 
give you specific answers that don't contain a step by step guide.  Given 
your difficulties, I am suggesting that you would probably be better served 
with a step by step guide.

file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/Ethernet/Ethernet-HOWTO.html
file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/Net/index.html
file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/mini/Linux-Modem-Sharing/index.html
file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/SMB/SMB-HOWTO.html
file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/Intranet-Server/Intranet-Server-HOWTO.html
file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/mini/Netscape+Proxy.html
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Re: [newbie] evolution hanging X?

2004-01-07 Thread Adolfo A. Bello B.
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 03:58:23AM -0700, jpearl24 wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 02:58, Adolfo Bello wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 00:31, jpearl24 wrote:
> > > It seems when i have evolution open for a long time. X freezes. I dont
> > > think its my video card because of the games i play stay on and i can
> > > watch a dvd with no problems... but when i got done with the dvd and
> > > unrolled Evo from its rolled up state x froze immediately any ideas.. i
> > > downloaded all the updates and it still pauses when i type every 30
> > > seconds.. i think that is causing the freezing..
> > 
> > Try adding to your /etc/hosts:
> > 127.0.0.1   yourhostname   yourhostname.yourdomainname
> > 
> > It fixed that problem in my box.
> > 
> > I have also read that leaving blank or comment lines in /etc/hosts is
> > another source of problems for Evolution.
> > 
> > HTH
> > 
> > Adolfo
> > 
> ok somehow it got put back to localhost... so i put it back to sesso2
> and now it doesnt freeze every lil bit but ... i found out that x hasnt

I don't understand what you did (blame it at my english).
Did you replace your localhost line?

You have to have the 2 lines:
127.0.0.1   localhost   localhost.localdomain
127.0.0.1   yourhostname   yourhostname.yourdomainname

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Re: [newbie] hanging box

2004-01-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 14:44, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 07:49:07 -0500
>
> JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Actually, Anne made one good point, with a Journaling FS like
> > Ext3, you really can skip the fsck.
>
> Sorry but this is a commonly held misconception.
>
> Both ext2 and ext3 use fsck.
> fsck.ext2 for ext2
> fsck.ext3 for ext3
>
> Even ReisferFS and XFS make use of integrity checks, though They do
> not use fsck.
>
Charles, I can't remember exactly who it was on the expert list that 
said don't do it, but I think it was Todd.  Certainly it was someone 
of great experience.

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[newbie] cd with faulty md5sum

2004-01-07 Thread Johan
Hi,
Now it seem that I have success to copy cd's with a good md5sum..what 
about those that gives input/output error..
I have about 30 of them received from a source that supply downloaded 
versions of linux.
They work faultlessly without fail to date.
The problem is when you want to copy them...dd ... does not work...
**
[EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-files]$ md5sum /dev/hdb
md5sum: /dev/hdb: Input/output error
[EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-files]$ dd if=/dev/hdb of=cdtest.iso
dd: reading `/dev/hdb': Input/output error
993344+0 records in
993344+0 records out
**
Even K3B refuses to copy this cd's.
**
I have made copies of them in windows and the recipients had problems.
Now maybe I could use rsync to copy all those files in one go and then 
burn them back to cd  * or * use mkisofs and then burn to cd?
**   CD1  **   needs to be bootable..how could that be accomplished.
Some suggestions would be appreciated please.
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[newbie] copy a cd

2004-01-07 Thread Johan
Hi,
Thanks for all the input from list members...
This seems to work for me...after all the suggestions...

Pop cd into cdrom...then...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] internet]$ md5sum /dev/hdb
9babc164ac9fe1426dcb00a5a75d945a  /dev/hdb

[EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-files]$ dd if=/dev/hdb of=cd1.iso
1289788+0 records in
1289788+0 records out

[EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-files]$ md5sum cd1.iso
9babc164ac9fe1426dcb00a5a75d945a  cd1.iso

Now k3b write iso image...(no multisession)..

Check new cd...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-files]$ md5sum /dev/hdb
9babc164ac9fe1426dcb00a5a75d945a  /dev/hdb

Looks fine.is it a true copy??
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Re: Re: [newbie] Canon i470D Printer Driver?

2004-01-07 Thread Larry Varney

> 
> From: Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2004/01/07 Wed AM 06:55:45 EST
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Canon i470D Printer Driver?
> 
> On Tuesday 06 Jan 2004 7:07 pm, Larry Varney wrote:
> >I have just purchased the Canon i470D printer. Mandrake 9.1 has lots
> > of drivers for Canon printers, but none specifically for this model.
> >Is there one that is compatible? I have tried a couple, and the pages
> > come out 1/4 the normal size!
> 
> I assume this is a new model since it is not mentioned at
> www.linuxprinting.org
> If you look at the Canon report card there you will see that Canon does not 
> have a great history of Linux support.
> 
> Most people report best results from Canon printers using www.turboprint.de
> However Turboprint does not support that model either  (although it might be 
> worth trying it out)
> Turboprint is free for personal use, and RPMs are available from MandrakeClub
> 
> HTH
> 
> derek
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  Thanks! I'll check your suggestions out. It's a good printer, comes with a nice 
Windows/Mac bundle of software, and a rebate knocked the price down too low to ignore!

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Re: [newbie] hanging box

2004-01-07 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:44:34 -0500
Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Actually, Anne made one good point, with a Journaling FS like Ext3,
> > you really can skip the fsck.
> 
> Sorry but this is a commonly held misconception.
> 
> Both ext2 and ext3 use fsck.
> fsck.ext2 for ext2
> fsck.ext3 for ext3
> 
> Even ReisferFS and XFS make use of integrity checks, though They do
> not use fsck.

I didn't mean to imply that they did not make use of it, just that IME, and
seemingly of others, it doesn't seem to be necessary, or can even cause more
problems than simply letting the FS recover the journal by itself.

Unless I am minsunderstanding you, and fsck is used *in the recovery of the
journal*?

I am also assuming that the 'file system integrity check' offered during the
boot process is the same thing as 'fsck'.

As always, striving for accuracy ;-)

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[newbie] Help - I broke it!!! [was: unable to ping to/from windoze box]

2004-01-07 Thread Merlin Zener
Hi,

First, I set both windoze boxes to static IP addresses, and verified 
they still talk to each other. The desktop refuses to shut down now, 
it just goes to blue screen and stays there. But I could care less 
about that atm, I can just hit the reset switch and boot into Linux 
and shut down cleanly from there. That's not the problem. The problem 
is I've killed my internet connection. I'm typing this in a net cafe, 
after setting up a new account and subscribing it to the list.
[btw what's with the archives at mandrake.com only going up till 
Nov03?]

I ran the drakeconnect wizard again, but it wouldn't let me NOT put in 
a DNS server or [the other one - I can't remember now] It complained 
that the DNS Server should be in the form n.n.n.n and suggested [IIRC] 
186.192.0.3 and 186.192.0.2. I'm not sure of those numbers, I'm going 
from memory here. It was 7AM when I was trying to sort out what was 
going wrong and that's late, even for me...

When I start KPPP it dials and connects to the ISP ok, but then 
nothing further happens. Evolution times out with "unknown reason" and 
all web pages return "connection refused". I ran the wizard again and 
it had obliterated my dialup account - I had to go searching through 
boxes and boxes of bits of paper and receipts etc to find the original 
signup stuff from the ISP so I could re-enter the dialin numbers and 
username and password again. But still, the same symptoms, no matter 
what I tried. It seems like regardless of the state of the dialup, the 
network connection seems to want to take over.


<<<>>>
I had a bunch more stuff typed but then there was a power failure here 
and I had to type it all again. I think you have enough to get the 
idea of the problem. I have no time left now; I'll try and find 
another net cafe in a few hours or so.

In the meantime, any suggestions will be appreciated...

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Re: [newbie] hanging box

2004-01-07 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 07:49:07 -0500
JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Actually, Anne made one good point, with a Journaling FS like Ext3,
> you really can skip the fsck.

Sorry but this is a commonly held misconception.

Both ext2 and ext3 use fsck.
fsck.ext2 for ext2
fsck.ext3 for ext3

Even ReisferFS and XFS make use of integrity checks, though They do
not use fsck.


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Re: [newbie] Journalling (was: hanging box)

2004-01-07 Thread Paul
Interesting to see these things contradictory to what I have found out.
Luckily I have a new PC that does not crash anymore. In case it should, 
I will try to skip fsck. Hopefully I never have to!

Paul

Since the advice I was given came from people whose expertise I
respect, I prefer to listen to them.  I have followed their
advice ever since, and it has never caused me any problems.
 

I certainly seem to be having more success skipping fsck than by
trying to go through with it as it always hangs now if I try it. 
Perhaps I will see negative effects down the road...?
   

I have been skipping it for 6 months? I would guess.  It's not 
given me problems to date
 


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Re: [newbie] realplayer and amazon.com

2004-01-07 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 08:27:00 -0500
Todd Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Do you know where I can find these packages? I tried urpmi but all I get
> are the texstar packages. I also looked on rpmfind but could not find a
> mdk package.

Same here.

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Re: [newbie] Journalling (was: hanging box)

2004-01-07 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 05:16:17 -0800
"Paul O'Rorke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I certainly seem to be having more success skipping fsck than by trying to go 
> through with it as it always hangs now if I try it.  Perhaps I will see 
> negative effects down the road...?

I have had more negative effects running fsck than I have had otherwise.
Actually, I've *never* had a problem letting it recover the journal
automatically, but as I stated in an earlier post, I once *did* run fsck and
ended up hosing GTK and part of Gnome completely. Luckily, this being Mandrake,
I just did an uninstall and reinstall of GTK with --nodeps, and I was back in
biz. Whew!

Fsck fsck! Heh... ;-)

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Re: [newbie] realplayer and amazon.com

2004-01-07 Thread Todd Slater
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 11:15:24PM -0800, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 January 2004 9:53 pm, Todd Slater droned on:
> >
> > I've installed it using the RPM available from real.com, and using urpmi
> > (uninstalling RPM first). The installed packages are:
> >
> > RealPlayer8-8.0.3-5tex.i586
> > mozilla-realplayer-1.4-1tex.i586
> >
> > The error persists. :(
> 
> Drag, then try the Mandrake ones: RealPlayer-Codecs-9.0-2mdk
> RealPlayer-8.0-6mdk, and they are working perfectly with mine.

Rob,

Do you know where I can find these packages? I tried urpmi but all I get
are the texstar packages. I also looked on rpmfind but could not find a
mdk package.

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Re: [newbie] hanging box

2004-01-07 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 05:11:47 -0800
"Paul O'Rorke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I went into BIOS as you suggested and set "Rescources Controlled by:" to 
> Manual (as opposed to 'auto ESCD'), and hung up on that very reboot, so I 
> returned it to 'auto'.

Hmmm, I'm not sure that's the same thing as Plug and Play.
 
> I thought that Mandrake 9.2 is a PnP aware OS..??  Am I wrong here?

Again, not sure about that. It *does* do it's own auto hardware detection, but I
don't believe that is the same thing as "Plug and Play", which AFAIK is strictly
a Windows thang.

I'm firing up the "Tom Brinkman Signal" as we speak ;-)

Hmmm, what *would* the Tom Brinkman Signal look like anyway?

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Re: [newbie] realplayer and amazon.com

2004-01-07 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 23:15:24 -0800
Rob Blomquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Drag, then try the Mandrake ones: RealPlayer-Codecs-9.0-2mdk
> RealPlayer-8.0-6mdk, and they are working perfectly with mine.

Jumpin' in here because I am having similar probs with RealPlayer.

Are those Club RPM's? I can't seem to get at them through urpmi...

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RE: [newbie] Journalling (was: hanging box)

2004-01-07 Thread Tony S. Sykes
I said yes several weeks ago and have a corrupted filesystem. So I don't
think I will be doing it again.

-Original Message-
From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [newbie] Journalling (was: hanging box)


On Wednesday 07 January 2004 13:16, Paul O'Rorke wrote:
> On January 7, 2004 04:44 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 07 January 2004 12:23, Paul wrote:
> > > On 01/07/2004 09:37 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > >What filesystem are you using?  I understand that the fsck is
> > > > only necessary for ext2 filesystems, as journalling takes
> > > > care of the things that fsck would be looking for.  The
> > > > advice I was given was never to say 'yes' to it if you run a
> > > > journalling fs.  The journal would be restored and everything
> > > > would be OK.
> > >
> > > I am running ext3 on all my partitions. Did so ever since mdk
> > > 9.0 which was on my old PC.
> > > Journalling has helped me out of problems only a few times. The
> > > old machine had the habit of crashing (hardware problem, never
> > > solved) ever so often. Sometimes the 'recovering journal' would
> > > appear and things'd be fine, but more often than not the
> > > question to do an fsck would come up. And skipping that would
> > > have devastating results of mount points disrupted and more of
> > > that sort of fun. So do not rely on what you hear on one side.
> > > I did not skip fsck's. Perhaps on other journalling systems
> > > things are different or better. I don't know that.
> >
> > Since the advice I was given came from people whose expertise I
> > respect, I prefer to listen to them.  I have followed their
> > advice ever since, and it has never caused me any problems.
> >
> > Anne
>
> I certainly seem to be having more success skipping fsck than by
> trying to go through with it as it always hangs now if I try it. 
> Perhaps I will see negative effects down the road...?

I have been skipping it for 6 months? I would guess.  It's not 
given me problems to date

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Re: [newbie] Journalling (was: hanging box)

2004-01-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 13:16, Paul O'Rorke wrote:
> On January 7, 2004 04:44 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 07 January 2004 12:23, Paul wrote:
> > > On 01/07/2004 09:37 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > >What filesystem are you using?  I understand that the fsck is
> > > > only necessary for ext2 filesystems, as journalling takes
> > > > care of the things that fsck would be looking for.  The
> > > > advice I was given was never to say 'yes' to it if you run a
> > > > journalling fs.  The journal would be restored and everything
> > > > would be OK.
> > >
> > > I am running ext3 on all my partitions. Did so ever since mdk
> > > 9.0 which was on my old PC.
> > > Journalling has helped me out of problems only a few times. The
> > > old machine had the habit of crashing (hardware problem, never
> > > solved) ever so often. Sometimes the 'recovering journal' would
> > > appear and things'd be fine, but more often than not the
> > > question to do an fsck would come up. And skipping that would
> > > have devastating results of mount points disrupted and more of
> > > that sort of fun. So do not rely on what you hear on one side.
> > > I did not skip fsck's. Perhaps on other journalling systems
> > > things are different or better. I don't know that.
> >
> > Since the advice I was given came from people whose expertise I
> > respect, I prefer to listen to them.  I have followed their
> > advice ever since, and it has never caused me any problems.
> >
> > Anne
>
> I certainly seem to be having more success skipping fsck than by
> trying to go through with it as it always hangs now if I try it. 
> Perhaps I will see negative effects down the road...?

I have been skipping it for 6 months? I would guess.  It's not 
given me problems to date

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Re: [newbie] Journalling (was: hanging box)

2004-01-07 Thread Paul O'Rorke
On January 7, 2004 04:44 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 January 2004 12:23, Paul wrote:
> > On 01/07/2004 09:37 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > >What filesystem are you using?  I understand that the fsck is only
> > >necessary for ext2 filesystems, as journalling takes care of the
> > >things that fsck would be looking for.  The advice I was given was
> > >never to say 'yes' to it if you run a journalling fs.  The journal
> > >would be restored and everything would be OK.
> >
> > I am running ext3 on all my partitions. Did so ever since mdk 9.0
> > which was on my old PC.
> > Journalling has helped me out of problems only a few times. The old
> > machine had the habit of crashing (hardware problem, never solved)
> > ever so often. Sometimes the 'recovering journal' would appear and
> > things'd be fine, but more often than not the question to do an
> > fsck would come up. And skipping that would have devastating
> > results of mount points disrupted and more of that sort of fun. So
> > do not rely on what you hear on one side. I did not skip fsck's.
> > Perhaps on other journalling systems things are different or
> > better. I don't know that.
>
> Since the advice I was given came from people whose expertise I
> respect, I prefer to listen to them.  I have followed their advice
> ever since, and it has never caused me any problems.
>
> Anne

I certainly seem to be having more success skipping fsck than by trying to go 
through with it as it always hangs now if I try it.  Perhaps I will see 
negative effects down the road...?

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Re: [newbie] Canon i470D Printer Driver?

2004-01-07 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 06 Jan 2004 7:07 pm, Larry Varney wrote:
>I have just purchased the Canon i470D printer. Mandrake 9.1 has lots
> of drivers for Canon printers, but none specifically for this model.
>Is there one that is compatible? I have tried a couple, and the pages
> come out 1/4 the normal size!

I assume this is a new model since it is not mentioned at
www.linuxprinting.org
If you look at the Canon report card there you will see that Canon does not 
have a great history of Linux support.

Most people report best results from Canon printers using www.turboprint.de
However Turboprint does not support that model either  (although it might be 
worth trying it out)
Turboprint is free for personal use, and RPMs are available from MandrakeClub

HTH

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Re: [newbie] evolution hanging X?

2004-01-07 Thread jpearl24
On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 02:58, Adolfo Bello wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 00:31, jpearl24 wrote:
> > It seems when i have evolution open for a long time. X freezes. I dont
> > think its my video card because of the games i play stay on and i can
> > watch a dvd with no problems... but when i got done with the dvd and
> > unrolled Evo from its rolled up state x froze immediately any ideas.. i
> > downloaded all the updates and it still pauses when i type every 30
> > seconds.. i think that is causing the freezing..
> 
> Try adding to your /etc/hosts:
> 127.0.0.1   yourhostname   yourhostname.yourdomainname
> 
> It fixed that problem in my box.
> 
> I have also read that leaving blank or comment lines in /etc/hosts is
> another source of problems for Evolution.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Adolfo
> 
ok somehow it got put back to localhost... so i put it back to sesso2
and now it doesnt freeze every lil bit but ... i found out that x hasnt
froze since  ihavent had any chat programs running... sooo i htink it is
the chat programs.. do you think the hostname could be killing x from
running chat clients... i am running irc chat xchat with no locking up..

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Re: [newbie] Core dump

2004-01-07 Thread John Richard Smith
Richard Urwin wrote:

Looks good. But I'm afraid I don't have time to look at it tonight.

 

Sure, We all have to fit this inbetween everything else in our lives.

Please let me know what you think when your've had time to think about it.

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Re: [newbie] evolution hanging X?

2004-01-07 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 00:31, jpearl24 wrote:
> It seems when i have evolution open for a long time. X freezes. I dont
> think its my video card because of the games i play stay on and i can
> watch a dvd with no problems... but when i got done with the dvd and
> unrolled Evo from its rolled up state x froze immediately any ideas.. i
> downloaded all the updates and it still pauses when i type every 30
> seconds.. i think that is causing the freezing..

Try adding to your /etc/hosts:
127.0.0.1   yourhostname   yourhostname.yourdomainname

It fixed that problem in my box.

I have also read that leaving blank or comment lines in /etc/hosts is
another source of problems for Evolution.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] hanging box

2004-01-07 Thread Paul O'Rorke
On January 7, 2004 12:37 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

> What filesystem are you using?  I understand that the fsck is only
> necessary for ext2 filesystems, as journalling takes care of the
> things that fsck would be looking for.  The advice I was given was
> never to say 'yes' to it if you run a journalling fs.  The journal
> would be restored and everything would be OK.
>
> If there are other errors, then they could be dealt with separately.
>
> Anne

Thanks - that's good to know - I'm using ext3 for most of my partitions, and 
xfs for one (home/public) and NTFS for another (W2K).  I'm not sure what the 
xfs is - I don't remember explicitly choosing that.  So I guess I can let it 
skip the fsck without worrying.


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Re: [newbie] hanging box

2004-01-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 00:27, JoeHill wrote:
>
> > It seems reasonable to me that corrupted files on the HDD could
> > conceivably cause this behaviour.  How do I check the drive for
> > problems, or am I barking up the wrong tree?  I noticed
> > occasional reports of "spurious IRQ on 8259a - IRQ 7" in the boot
> > screens - relevant?
>
What filesystem are you using?  I understand that the fsck is only 
necessary for ext2 filesystems, as journalling takes care of the 
things that fsck would be looking for.  The advice I was given was 
never to say 'yes' to it if you run a journalling fs.  The journal 
would be restored and everything would be OK.

If there are other errors, then they could be dealt with separately.

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[newbie] Graphics characters

2004-01-07 Thread Alan Ianson
I have installed mandrake linux a few times starting with 9.0 about a year 
ago. One problem I have had that I can't seem to figure out is how to display 
graphics characters. If any of you guys call any dial-up (if there are any 
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Re: [newbie] realplayer and amazon.com

2004-01-07 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Tuesday 06 January 2004 9:53 pm, Todd Slater droned on:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 09:35:49PM -0800, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > On Sunday 04 January 2004 9:58 am, Todd Slater droned on:
> > > Every time I try to listen to song samples on amazon.com using
> > > realplayer (both 8 and realone), it aborts with just the message
> > > "aborted". I'm copying the link location from the browser and trying to
> > > open it with File > Open Location in realplayer.
> >
> > Humph. I don't have any problems with RealPlayer and Amazon.com. Maybe
> > its missing a library? Did you install RealPlayer from a MDK rpm using
> > urpmi, or some other way? If you did it some otherway, you should try
> > uninstalling it, and reinstalling it with "urpmi realplayer" at a root
> > prompt.
>
> I've installed it using the RPM available from real.com, and using urpmi
> (uninstalling RPM first). The installed packages are:
>
> RealPlayer8-8.0.3-5tex.i586
> mozilla-realplayer-1.4-1tex.i586
>
> The error persists. :(

Drag, then try the Mandrake ones: RealPlayer-Codecs-9.0-2mdk
RealPlayer-8.0-6mdk, and they are working perfectly with mine.

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