Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-10 Thread E. Hines
and as root#fdisk -l /dev/hda will give a complete list of the partitions 
. and what their formatting is

and as root#fdisk -l   will give info about what the symbolic links should
   be
e.

On Saturday 10 January 2004 08:07 pm, bascule wrote:
> have you lost the link to the drive if you are using devfs?
> i don't remember the earlier posts but if you have 9.2 and are using devfs
> then you will find that /dev/hda etc are symbolic links, i.e.:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] bascule]$ ls -l /dev/hda
> lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   32 Jan  9 12:13 /dev/hda ->
> ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] bascule]$ ls -l /dev/hda1
> lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   33 Jan  9 12:13 /dev/hda1 ->
> ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
>
> bascule


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Re: [newbie] fstab and lilo

2004-01-10 Thread jason pearl
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 01:14:48 -0500
Lee Wiggers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I have my fstab and lilo pretty much fouled up.  Would someone who
>has a working cdrw and dvd please post theirs so I can figure out
>where I overused my delete key?
>
>Lee
>

for your burner you should have 

none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0

if it is the master or else it will say cdrom2

you dvd should be the same and have /dev/hdc i think or /dev/cdrom


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Re: [newbie] Having trouble upgrading to kernel-2.4.22.26mdk

2004-01-10 Thread jason pearl
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:10:04 -0500
Ferdog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I'm having trouble upgrading to kernel-2.4.22.26mdk on my brand new
>Mandrake 9.2 installation.
>
>Following the instructions on mandrakesecure.net, I first upgraded
>bootloader-utils to bootloader-utils-1.6-3.1.92mdk, which, seems to
>install fine. Then, I attempt to install kernel-2.4.22.26mdk and get
>this error:
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi kernel-2.4.22.26mdk
>
>Installation failed, some files are missing:
>   
>ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/./kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
>You may want to update your urpmi database
>
>
>So, I update my urpmi database with 'urpmi.update -a' and that seems to
>update properly, however, I continue to get the same error when trying
>to install the kernel update.
>
>I have no idea what files are missing.
>
>Currently, I am running the same kernel that was originally installed
>with the system, 2.4.22-10mdk, so this would be the first kernel update
>I have done on this system.
>
>I am new to Mandrake and linux in general so I would really appreciate
>any help in this matter.
>
>Thanks,
>Mike
>
>
ok it still cant find your kernel.. sooo add a new urpmi repository thendisable the 
one it normall finds it at.. if u have x server then go to update media and uncheck 
the ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/

if you still have problems ill give you the file from my ftp server...

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Re: [newbie] problems with 2.6.0

2004-01-10 Thread tuija t.
Tom Brinkman kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Perjantai 9. Tammikuuta 2004 
17:04):
> On Thursday 08 January 2004 01:12 pm, tuija t. wrote:
> > I answer to myself :)
> > I compiled vanilla 2.6.0 and;
> > + no errors
> > + no reiserfs debug mode
> > + no frame pointers
> > But
> > - no supermount either :(
> > Howto merge supermount patch to vanilla?
>
> I've had a lot of problems with recent 2.6 cooker kernels
> myself, particulary with initrd and Reiser (won't even boot).
> You might try lookin in contribs (RPMS2/) on cooker mirrors for
> Thomas Backlund's version.
> kernel-tmb-2.6.0-1.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
>   (kernel-source is there too)
>
> I believe from reading cooker, he's got many of 2.6's module
> problems solved, proper ReiserFS support, and the latest
> supermount and other Mandrake specifics.  Be aware tho you'll
> still have other 2.6 kernel hardware/software/config issues (see
> lkml and cooker archives). So report back and tells us how it
> goes.
>
Thank you, I must try that Thomas' kernel-source too, it seems to
have lot of intresting patches.

>The only way I'm aware of to get Mandrake kernel patches like
> supermount is to extract them from a Mandrake kernel src.rpm, and
> I don't know how compatible they'd be with vanilla kernel.org
> source.

I managed to merge this supermount patch
supermount-2.0.3a-2.6.0.patch.gz
to vanilla-kernel-2.6.1 with following steps:
Extract the kernel vanilla in /usr/src
then copy this patch to /usr/src/linux-2.6.1/
extract the patch
cd in the directory /usr/src/linux-2.6.1
and there
# patch -p1 < supermount-2.0.3a-2.6.0
# make mrproper
# make
# make modules_install
# make install
Everything else went well but system failed to create
initrd.img
But I personally don't need it cause I have choosen
y not m in ide/ata and /fs  which is reiserfs
Kernel seems to work well and there is no errors in dmesg
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 - Cannot setup printer

2004-01-10 Thread jason pearl
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:14:38 -0500
Frank Bax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Printer port was already set to ECP+EPP.  I tried all possible settings 
>anyway with same result.
>
>I plan to use a dlink 704P to share the printer, but that is not 
>auto-detected either.  When I disable all three autodetection options, then 
>locally connected is the only option presented for manual setup, so I 
>thought I would try to configure printer locally, then change connection 
>type to remote.
>
>Frank
>
>
>At 11:22 PM 1/10/04, Troy T. Hall wrote:
>> >From the manual "If you want to use a parallel printer connected locally to
>>your machine, make sure that the parallel port mode is set to ECP+EPP or at
>>least to one of ECP or EPP and NOT to SPP, unless you have a really old
>>printer.  If the parallel port is not set this way you might still be able
>>to print, but your printer will not be detected autmoatically and you will
>>have to configure it by hand.  ..."
>>Also CUPS is generally used for remotely connected printers.
>>
>>Troy
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Frank Bax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 2201 N6REJ
>>Subject: [newbie] 9.2 - Cannot setup printer
>>
>>
>> > My MDK9.1 system did not have a printer configured.  After upgrading to
>> > 9.2, I  tried to add a printer.  When I first click on "PrinterDrake" in
>> > MCC, I get a message saying CUPS is not automatically started during
>> > bootup, would I like to enable automatic starting - I select YES.
>> > My local printer (HP4) is not auto-detected, so I disable those
>>checkboxes.
>> > Printer is on parallel port 0.  I'm then asked if it's a multi-function
>> > printer - no.
>> > Then I get "Please wait - Making printer port available for CUPS".
>> > After a many seconds, a window opens asking to give the printer a name.
>> > It doesn't matter if I change the name or just leave it as "Printer", when
>> > I click "Next", I get "Failed to configure printer "Printer"".
>> >
>> > How can I setup my printer?
>> >
>> > Frank
>
>
ok so are you saying that you are using a print server that isnt connected to your 
computer directly via Parallel? I just got mine setup after searching for clues on how 
to setup a remote printer correctly.


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Re: [newbie] Having trouble upgrading to kernel-2.4.22.26mdk

2004-01-10 Thread Johan
On Sunday 11 January 2004 07:10, Ferdog wrote:
> I'm having trouble upgrading to kernel-2.4.22.26mdk on my brand new
> Mandrake 9.2 installation.
<>
> I am new to Mandrake and linux in general so I would really
> appreciate any help in this matter.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
After you saved those scripts and they do not show up green when 
you * ls  * them..then...
chmod 777 00*
now they will show up green and be executable.
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Re: [newbie] SCO goes after Google

2004-01-10 Thread Jerry Barton
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:32:30 -0500
JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> From what I've read, the business community, and I can assume
> investors as a subset, are not taking SCO's shenanigans very
> seriously. The lure of investing in a huge potential like Google I'm
> sure will overcome any FUD coming from Utah.
> 
> If anything, McBride saw the news of Google potentially going public
> and thought going after them might boost *his* stock among the few
> idjits who actually consider SCO a good investment.


First the craziness over mormons, next the craziness over the Osmonds,
now this.  I'll never admit to living in Utah again.  SCO's the
proverbial staw.  At least I'm not in Lindon.  X-D.

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[newbie] fstab and lilo

2004-01-10 Thread Lee Wiggers
I have my fstab and lilo pretty much fouled up.  Would someone who
has a working cdrw and dvd please post theirs so I can figure out
where I overused my delete key?

Lee

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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-10 Thread E. Hines
On Saturday 10 January 2004 06:01 pm, Peter Simko wrote:

>
> The hda is working fine. It's the master on a dual-boot system and has
> the XP OS and most of my data on it. It shows up in BIOS during boot
> just fine. The hardware also seems to be detected in dmesg, but no
> drivers are available. And I just double checked the jumper and it's set
> to 'master', not cable select.

What I really think, now, is your /etc/fstab has no entries for a Linux 
partition on /dev/hdaX.  If Linux boots, take a peek at fstab and see where 
Windows is being mounted (should be hda1), and if you have any entries for 
Linux filesystems on hda.  The first linux partition of hda should say 
something similar to this example:
 /dev/hda5  /backup  reiserfs   noatime,rw,user,exec,auto   1 1
What the above line says is that a partition of type reiserfs, named /backup 
exists at the location 5 on disk hda, and is mounted read and write, by any 
user, at bootup.  


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Re: [newbie] Having trouble upgrading to kernel-2.4.22.26mdk

2004-01-10 Thread Johan
On Sunday 11 January 2004 07:10, Ferdog wrote:
> I'm having trouble upgrading to kernel-2.4.22.26mdk on my brand new
> Mandrake 9.2 installation.
>
> Following the instructions on mandrakesecure.net, I first upgraded
> bootloader-utils to bootloader-utils-1.6-3.1.92mdk, which, seems to
> install fine. Then, I attempt to install kernel-2.4.22.26mdk and get
> this error:
>
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi kernel-2.4.22.26mdk
>
> Installation failed, some files are missing:
>
> ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/update
>s/9.2/RPMS/./kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm You may want to
> update your urpmi database
> 
>
> So, I update my urpmi database with 'urpmi.update -a' and that seems
> to update properly, however, I continue to get the same error when
> trying to install the kernel update.
>
> I have no idea what files are missing.
>
> Currently, I am running the same kernel that was originally installed
> with the system, 2.4.22-10mdk, so this would be the first kernel
> update I have done on this system.
>
> I am new to Mandrake and linux in general so I would really
> appreciate any help in this matter.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike

Hi Mike,
This will be a lengthy thing..
Ok, here is 4 scripts I use for updating my system- mdk9.2.
They work fine for me in South Africa ... this site is located here 
too...I do have other sites in smiler scripts...but you could maybe 
modify them  to a more local good site.
Use as follows..
First save them to a directory...like bin in your user account.
Then...
./00-add-iscoza
then..
./000-listmedia.you Will now see all listed media and the 
above one should show.
Go on to the net then..
./00-upd-iscoza
Quite a lot of stuff will show but wait until prompt.
**
Now if you want to do a full update of your system then...
./00-use-iscoza
BEWAREthis WILL take hours.about 150 to 200 MB on 
first update.
What you want to do is to update your kernel them like thisactual on 
my system...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# urpmi kernel
One of the following packages is needed:
 1- kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586
 2- kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586
 3- kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk.i586
What is your choice? (1-3)
...then pick 3..about 40MB
I installed choice 3 last night.
Now on my system all 3 are installed side by side. on boot I can 
pick any of them to run.
If you are using GRUB bootloader everything is done for you in the 
menu.lst by the installer.
LILO...sorry I am not sure..maybe /sbin/lilo -vto re-install 
lilo..grub no need to anything.
As su go check before you REBOOT to use new kernel...
/boot/grub/menu.lst...or.../etc/lilo.confto see if 
what I said is true...depending on your bootloader.
Also check the entries in /boot .will see your new kernel there.
Actually it is as easy as this to install a kernel...no sweat.
..hope so???
Well if you should do a full update there is some issues of missing 
menus and some missing apps.
The menus may be rectified by.update-menus -v
Missing apps - re-install.
If you want to safely change from one loader to the other...lilo > 
grub...
Pop in cd 1 and reboot..
Do as if install but pick upgrade...then go through motions as required 
but when you reach the choices list of hardware/printer/region/etc 
...make sure they are correct but for the loader ( about second last 
one) of list pick grub or lilo...then continue.
Well I like grubcan do with it on boot that is impossible with lilo.
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su -c "urpmq --list-media"
su - -c "urpmi.addmedia --update iscoza 
ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/ with 
../base/synthesis.hdlist.cz"
su - -c "urpmi.update iscoza"

su - -c "urpmi --auto-select --noclean --media iscoza"
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Re: [newbie] nav panel in Konqueror

2004-01-10 Thread Bill W.
Hi,
This list never ceases to amaze me. Thanks for the second tip. That did it for 
me as well.

Regards,
Bill W.

On Sunday 11 January 2004 03:05 am, Littlefish Operator wrote:
> While we're on the subject,
>
> If I add the nav panel with f9 and save profile, the nav panel comes back
> next time I start konqueror, but the nave width is goofed (3/4 screen
> wide).  f9,f9 to remove and include the panel brings it back to proper
> size.  But proper size stays only until the next time I open konqueror.  No
> matter how many times I save profile.
>
> Finally I discovered that if I manually re-size the nave panel by dragging
> the vertical window divider by so much as a pixel, and save profile,
> FINALLY my settings stick.
>
> It would seem that Konqueror has a bug in it that doesn't keep track of the
> correct nav panel width when you bring it up using f9, and so saves the
> wrong width with settings.
>
> In my version anyway
>
> Scott
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Re: [newbie] urpmi question

2004-01-10 Thread jason pearl
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:40:53 +
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Friday 09 January 2004 22:15, Dick Gevers wrote:
>> On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:51:37 +, Anne Wilson
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> wrote about Re: [newbie] urpmi question:
>> >No, it's not.  So what the heck was it preparing?  Never mind -
>> > I'll leave it for tonight, then I'll go back to the gui.  At
>> > least I can understand the messages there.
>>
>> You could try copying the file from the CD to a home directory; I
>> had one CD in a previous version that always had read problems.
>> Moreover you could check the file`s integrity with rpm -K awe*
>>
>> If it still fails you might have a corrupted rpm database (which I
>> experienced several times in MD 9.1), but this can easily be fixed
>> by: rpm --rebuilddb
>>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]# urpmi awesfx
>Please insert the medium named "Installation CD1 (x86) (cdrom1)" on 
>device [/dev/scd0]
>Press Enter when ready...
>installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/awesfx-0.4.4-4mdk.i586.rpm
>
>Preparing...
>##
>   1:awesfx 
>##
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]#
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]# rpm -q awesfx
>awesfx-0.4.4-4mdk
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]#
>
>
>So - maybe the database needing updating, or maybe it tried to read 
>the cdrom before it was fully spun up?  Either way, it is installed 
>from cd now.  Thanks for the help, though.
>
>Anne
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Re: [newbie] urpmi question

2004-01-10 Thread jason pearl
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:30:12 -0700
jason pearl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:14:35 +
>Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>On Friday 09 January 2004 21:57, JoeHill wrote:
>>> On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:38:29 +
>>>
>>> Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]# urpmi awesfx
>>> > Please insert the medium named "Installation CD1 (x86) (cdrom1)"
>>> > on device [/dev/scd0]
>>> > Press Enter when ready...
>>> > cp: reading `/mnt/cdrw/Mandrake/RPMS/awesfx-0.4.4-4mdk.i586.rpm':
>>> > Input/output error
>>> > installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/awesfx-0.4.4-4mdk.i586.rpm
>>>
>>> means it could not read from the CD, usually.
>>>
>>> Try putting another CD in there and see if you can read from it. If
>>> not, may be some hardware or file system probs; if another CD works
>>> fine, ie. you can read the contents, could be the Mandrake CD is
>>> bad.
>>>
>>> > error: read failed: Success (25)
>>> > unable to install package
>>> > Preparing...
>>> > ##
>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]#
>>> >
>>> > So - is it installed or not?  I guess so, but from those
>>> > messages, it could mean anything
>>>
>>> try 'rpm -q awesfx' to see if it *did* install, which is doubtful
>>> if it could not read from the CD. Also, it only shows the
>>> 'Preparing' slider, not the 'Installing' slider.
>>
>>Ture - it just seems an odd thing to do.  How can it prepare if it 
>>didn't actually download a package?  Anyway, it's academic.  I'll 
>>sort it out one way or another sometime today.
>>
>>The problems I'm having do not relate to just one cd.  It has been 
>>single packages that can't be read, not the whole cd.  It's not a 
>>major problem as the package can always be found elsewhere.
>>
>>Anne
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>>Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet?
>>
>>
>>
>yeah it probably has bad packages...
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Re: [newbie] urpmi question

2004-01-10 Thread jason pearl
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:14:35 +
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Friday 09 January 2004 21:57, JoeHill wrote:
>> On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:38:29 +
>>
>> Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]# urpmi awesfx
>> > Please insert the medium named "Installation CD1 (x86) (cdrom1)"
>> > on device [/dev/scd0]
>> > Press Enter when ready...
>> > cp: reading `/mnt/cdrw/Mandrake/RPMS/awesfx-0.4.4-4mdk.i586.rpm':
>> > Input/output error
>> > installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/awesfx-0.4.4-4mdk.i586.rpm
>>
>> means it could not read from the CD, usually.
>>
>> Try putting another CD in there and see if you can read from it. If
>> not, may be some hardware or file system probs; if another CD works
>> fine, ie. you can read the contents, could be the Mandrake CD is
>> bad.
>>
>> > error: read failed: Success (25)
>> > unable to install package
>> > Preparing...
>> > ##
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]#
>> >
>> > So - is it installed or not?  I guess so, but from those
>> > messages, it could mean anything
>>
>> try 'rpm -q awesfx' to see if it *did* install, which is doubtful
>> if it could not read from the CD. Also, it only shows the
>> 'Preparing' slider, not the 'Installing' slider.
>
>Ture - it just seems an odd thing to do.  How can it prepare if it 
>didn't actually download a package?  Anyway, it's academic.  I'll 
>sort it out one way or another sometime today.
>
>The problems I'm having do not relate to just one cd.  It has been 
>single packages that can't be read, not the whole cd.  It's not a 
>major problem as the package can always be found elsewhere.
>
>Anne
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>
>
>
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Re: [newbie] SCO goes after Google

2004-01-10 Thread anton

http://www.forbes.com/markets/bonds/newswire/2004/01/09/rtr1205268.html

 

Isn't it a bit worrying that 6000 companies have actually given SCO 
money? Won't that just give them the guts to go for more? How could you 
be so milk-livered!
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 - Cannot setup printer

2004-01-10 Thread Frank Bax
Printer port was already set to ECP+EPP.  I tried all possible settings 
anyway with same result.

I plan to use a dlink 704P to share the printer, but that is not 
auto-detected either.  When I disable all three autodetection options, then 
locally connected is the only option presented for manual setup, so I 
thought I would try to configure printer locally, then change connection 
type to remote.

Frank

At 11:22 PM 1/10/04, Troy T. Hall wrote:
>From the manual "If you want to use a parallel printer connected locally to
your machine, make sure that the parallel port mode is set to ECP+EPP or at
least to one of ECP or EPP and NOT to SPP, unless you have a really old
printer.  If the parallel port is not set this way you might still be able
to print, but your printer will not be detected autmoatically and you will
have to configure it by hand.  ..."
Also CUPS is generally used for remotely connected printers.
Troy

- Original Message -
From: "Frank Bax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 2201 N6REJ
Subject: [newbie] 9.2 - Cannot setup printer
> My MDK9.1 system did not have a printer configured.  After upgrading to
> 9.2, I  tried to add a printer.  When I first click on "PrinterDrake" in
> MCC, I get a message saying CUPS is not automatically started during
> bootup, would I like to enable automatic starting - I select YES.
> My local printer (HP4) is not auto-detected, so I disable those
checkboxes.
> Printer is on parallel port 0.  I'm then asked if it's a multi-function
> printer - no.
> Then I get "Please wait - Making printer port available for CUPS".
> After a many seconds, a window opens asking to give the printer a name.
> It doesn't matter if I change the name or just leave it as "Printer", when
> I click "Next", I get "Failed to configure printer "Printer"".
>
> How can I setup my printer?
>
> Frank


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[newbie] Having trouble upgrading to kernel-2.4.22.26mdk

2004-01-10 Thread Ferdog
I'm having trouble upgrading to kernel-2.4.22.26mdk on my brand new
Mandrake 9.2 installation.

Following the instructions on mandrakesecure.net, I first upgraded
bootloader-utils to bootloader-utils-1.6-3.1.92mdk, which, seems to
install fine. Then, I attempt to install kernel-2.4.22.26mdk and get
this error:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi kernel-2.4.22.26mdk

Installation failed, some files are missing:
   
ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/./kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
You may want to update your urpmi database


So, I update my urpmi database with 'urpmi.update -a' and that seems to
update properly, however, I continue to get the same error when trying
to install the kernel update.

I have no idea what files are missing.

Currently, I am running the same kernel that was originally installed
with the system, 2.4.22-10mdk, so this would be the first kernel update
I have done on this system.

I am new to Mandrake and linux in general so I would really appreciate
any help in this matter.

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:03:07 -0500
Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Saturday 10 January 2004 11:23 am, Richard Urwin wrote:
> 
> > > I have to question that.  I know it's better known, but I get far
> > > better rates under POPFile than I did when I tried SA.  POPFile
> > > functions typically at 99.87% accuracy.  I don't think you can better
> > > that.
> >
> > That's a very impressive number, but I don't see what POPFile does that SA
> > doesn't. You do need to train SA, and it doesn't start using Bayesian
> > analysis until it's database has 200 messages in. I don't have any
> > experience of how easy, hard or accurate this bit of SA is. I run it at
> > work, but the setup precludes training the Bayesian bit.
> 
> I don't really rely on bayesian filters at all, I let the DNS blocklists do 
> the power filtering and just let the body filters catch the stuff coming from 
> brand new sources.  I don't have particular numbers but on average, I get 800 
> spam mails per week through my system and of those, maybe 1 false negative 
> hits the inbox.
> 
> -- 
> Bryan Phinney
> Software Test Engineer
> 

I took the liberty of adding Bryan's DNS Blacklists to my Postfix server guide if 
anyone wants to know how to use them. They are really effective at catching a lot of 
spam.

Probably because of the number of times I post on this list, I receive about 400 spams 
a day, and about 3 a week manage to get through to my Inbox. I have **never** had a 
false positive!
Those messages that do make it to my inbox are generally so obfuscated that they are 
almost unreadable.

derek


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Re: [newbie] 9.2 - Cannot setup printer

2004-01-10 Thread Troy T. Hall
>From the manual "If you want to use a parallel printer connected locally to
your machine, make sure that the parallel port mode is set to ECP+EPP or at
least to one of ECP or EPP and NOT to SPP, unless you have a really old
printer.  If the parallel port is not set this way you might still be able
to print, but your printer will not be detected autmoatically and you will
have to configure it by hand.  ..."
Also CUPS is generally used for remotely connected printers.

Troy

- Original Message - 
From: "Frank Bax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 2201 N6REJ
Subject: [newbie] 9.2 - Cannot setup printer


> My MDK9.1 system did not have a printer configured.  After upgrading to
> 9.2, I  tried to add a printer.  When I first click on "PrinterDrake" in
> MCC, I get a message saying CUPS is not automatically started during
> bootup, would I like to enable automatic starting - I select YES.
> My local printer (HP4) is not auto-detected, so I disable those
checkboxes.
> Printer is on parallel port 0.  I'm then asked if it's a multi-function
> printer - no.
> Then I get "Please wait - Making printer port available for CUPS".
> After a many seconds, a window opens asking to give the printer a name.
> It doesn't matter if I change the name or just leave it as "Printer", when
> I click "Next", I get "Failed to configure printer "Printer"".
>
> How can I setup my printer?
>
> Frank
>
>
>






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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-10 Thread bascule
have you lost the link to the drive if you are using devfs?
i don't remember the earlier posts but if you have 9.2 and are using devfs 
then you will find that /dev/hda etc are symbolic links, i.e.:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bascule]$ ls -l /dev/hda
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   32 Jan  9 12:13 /dev/hda -> 
ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bascule]$ ls -l /dev/hda1
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   33 Jan  9 12:13 /dev/hda1 -> 
ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1

bascule


On Sunday 11 Jan 2004 3:11 am, Troy T. Hall wrote:
> > The hda is working fine. It's the master on a dual-boot system and has
> > the XP OS and most of my data on it. It shows up in BIOS during boot
> > just fine. The hardware also seems to be detected in dmesg, but no
> > drivers are available. And I just double checked the jumper and it's set
> > to 'master', not cable select.

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[newbie] 9.2 - Cannot setup printer

2004-01-10 Thread Frank Bax
My MDK9.1 system did not have a printer configured.  After upgrading to 
9.2, I  tried to add a printer.  When I first click on "PrinterDrake" in 
MCC, I get a message saying CUPS is not automatically started during 
bootup, would I like to enable automatic starting - I select YES.
My local printer (HP4) is not auto-detected, so I disable those checkboxes.
Printer is on parallel port 0.  I'm then asked if it's a multi-function 
printer - no.
Then I get "Please wait - Making printer port available for CUPS".
After a many seconds, a window opens asking to give the printer a name.
It doesn't matter if I change the name or just leave it as "Printer", when 
I click "Next", I get "Failed to configure printer "Printer"".

How can I setup my printer?

Frank


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Re: [newbie] enabling ide-scsi emulation

2004-01-10 Thread Rick Kunath
Add the following to your lilo.conf file, then issue a lilo -v from a terminal 
to write the updated lilo to the boot sector.

add this to your append line 

hdc=ide-scsi

Like this

append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdclun=0 acpi=ht splash=silent"

Make sure to change hdc to whatever your cd-rom drive is.

Just add it to whatever is there, the example is my own entry line, just as an 
example.

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[newbie] enabling ide-scsi emulation

2004-01-10 Thread aidanh
I'm getting the following error message with K3B in MDK 9.2:

 No support for ATAPI with cdrdao
You will not be able to use all your reading devices as copy sources
since there is at least one not configured to use SCSI emulation and
your system does not support ATAPI with cdrdao.
Solution: The best and recommended solution is to enable ide-scsi (SCSI
emulation) for all writer devices. This way you won't have any problems.

I did have ide-scsi emulation (and K3B) working before I had to
re-install everything and for the life of me can't remember how I did
it. I spent 3 hours last night searching for a simple how-to but could
not find one.

Can anyone provide me with the steps to enable this??

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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-10 Thread Troy T. Hall
Don't know if this is relevant or not but I used to have a problem with one
of my hd's where it did not won't to co-exist on the same controller channel
as another.  If it was all by itself on the controller channel it would be
seen in linux just fine and the correct size.  But when I put it with
another drive, ESPECIALLY a seagate drive, it would change its drive
geometry.  Or not work at all.  I eventually segregated it to its own box
and it lives there still.  I've also seen issues where if you use a cable
that is not properly rated for the controller channel ( typically ide0 ) it
will cause issues.
Hardware can be frustrating sometimes.

Troy

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Simko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 2001 N6REJ
Subject: Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system


> Anne Wilson wrote:
>
> >On Saturday 10 January 2004 07:31, E. Hines wrote:
> >
> >>On Friday 09 January 2004 07:30 pm, Peter Simko wrote:
> >>
> >>>Nope, hda doesn't show up there either, just the hdb device. This
> >>>is really annoying the hell out of me. I used to run both HDDs
> >>>from an ATA controller card, but I got rid of that and put both
> >>>drives on IDE 0 to simplify my system. That changed hdf to hdb
> >>>without a problem (with appropriate changes to fstab), but
> >>>somehow hde just went 'poof' and disappeared instead of showing
> >>>up again as hda.
> >>>
> >>A few things I can think of:
> >>
> >>hda should be jumpered for "Master" and it should be (if I recall
> >>correctly, someone will correct me if I'm wrong) on the end of the
> >>IDE cable.  The slave drive should be attached to the center cable
> >>connector.  Does your bios show both drives being detected and
> >>identified correctly? (assuming you don't have a crippled bios like
> >>a Gateway or some such).  Do you get a message at the first boot
> >>screen (right after memory test) that shows the Master and Slave
> >>drive being identified?
> >>Have you tried moving hdb to ide1, and having hda alone on ide0?
> >>Tried booting with only hda plugged in?  Lots of stuff you can do
> >>to determine what the problem is, but it acts like:
> >>
> >>1.  hda has no power plugged into it
> >>2.  hda is jumpered wrong, or in the wrong position on the cable
> >>3.  the IDE cable is bad, not plugged in, or plugged in wrong--red
> >>marker not to pin 1 (not impossible to do with some cable/drive
> >>combos) 4.  the hd has gone bad
> >>
> >
> >Above all, I would say make sure that neither drive is jumpered for
> >Cable Select.  It causes far more problems than it solves.
> >
> >Anne
> >
> The hda is working fine. It's the master on a dual-boot system and has
> the XP OS and most of my data on it. It shows up in BIOS during boot
> just fine. The hardware also seems to be detected in dmesg, but no
> drivers are available. And I just double checked the jumper and it's set
> to 'master', not cable select.
>
>
>
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Re: [newbie] nav panel in Konqueror

2004-01-10 Thread Littlefish Operator
While we're on the subject,

If I add the nav panel with f9 and save profile, the nav panel comes back next
time I start konqueror, but the nave width is goofed (3/4 screen wide).  f9,f9
to remove and include the panel brings it back to proper size.  But proper
size stays only until the next time I open konqueror.  No matter how many
times I save profile.

Finally I discovered that if I manually re-size the nave panel by dragging the
vertical window divider by so much as a pixel, and save profile, FINALLY my
settings stick.

It would seem that Konqueror has a bug in it that doesn't keep track of the
correct nav panel width when you bring it up using f9, and so saves the wrong
width with settings.

In my version anyway

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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-10 Thread Peter Simko
Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 10 January 2004 07:31, E. Hines wrote:

On Friday 09 January 2004 07:30 pm, Peter Simko wrote:

Nope, hda doesn't show up there either, just the hdb device. This
is really annoying the hell out of me. I used to run both HDDs
from an ATA controller card, but I got rid of that and put both
drives on IDE 0 to simplify my system. That changed hdf to hdb
without a problem (with appropriate changes to fstab), but
somehow hde just went 'poof' and disappeared instead of showing
up again as hda.
A few things I can think of:

hda should be jumpered for "Master" and it should be (if I recall
correctly, someone will correct me if I'm wrong) on the end of the
IDE cable.  The slave drive should be attached to the center cable
connector.  Does your bios show both drives being detected and
identified correctly? (assuming you don't have a crippled bios like
a Gateway or some such).  Do you get a message at the first boot
screen (right after memory test) that shows the Master and Slave
drive being identified?
Have you tried moving hdb to ide1, and having hda alone on ide0? 
Tried booting with only hda plugged in?  Lots of stuff you can do
to determine what the problem is, but it acts like:

1.  hda has no power plugged into it
2.  hda is jumpered wrong, or in the wrong position on the cable
3.  the IDE cable is bad, not plugged in, or plugged in wrong--red
marker not to pin 1 (not impossible to do with some cable/drive
combos) 4.  the hd has gone bad
Above all, I would say make sure that neither drive is jumpered for 
Cable Select.  It causes far more problems than it solves.

Anne

The hda is working fine. It's the master on a dual-boot system and has 
the XP OS and most of my data on it. It shows up in BIOS during boot 
just fine. The hardware also seems to be detected in dmesg, but no 
drivers are available. And I just double checked the jumper and it's set 
to 'master', not cable select.



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Re: [newbie] How To Network Windows XP Pro and Linux Mandrake 9.1 Together

2004-01-10 Thread Troy T. Hall
I don't know alot about it, but I can point you in some general directions.
Xp has "Internet Connection Sharing Wizard" that is designed for this.
Linux has "Samba"
Mandrake has "LinNeighborhood" which is its eqv to Network Neighborhood.
There are security issues which I'm not qualified to speak on depending on
which is your "gateway" to the net.  From what I understand its much more
secure for linux to be the gateway vs xp.
Here are some useful links to get you started.
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome ( great newbie sight )
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HomeNetworking
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/SaMBa

I hope this helps some.
Sorry I can't be more specific.
Troy

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From: "Mr. Justin G. Kozuch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Linux Newbie Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 1942 N6REJ
Subject: [newbie] How To Network Windows XP Pro and Linux Mandrake 9.1
Together


> Hey Everyone,
>
> I am a new Linux user (and I mean new), and I would like to network my
> Windows XP Pro/Linux Mandrake machines together, however, I am very
confused
> as to how to do this.
>
> I am not very good with Linux, but I am somewhat proficient with Windows
XP
> Pro.
>
> What I would like to do is this:
>
> - Access files (mp3's, etc) across the network between both machines.
> - Test web applications built in the Linux Mandrake environment from the
> Windows XP Pro machine, and vice versa.
> - Connect to the Internet (ie, share my internet connection) from the
Linux
> Mandrake machine.
> - View the Linux desktop from the Windows machine, and vice versa.
>
> I have all the hardware (NIC's, cabling, hub) required, I just need some
> direction.
>
> I have searched google for information, however, I was unable to find
> anything relevant.
>
> Would someone be able to give me some direction on how to get this done?
>
> Thank you very much in advance,
>
> Justin Kozuch
>
>
>
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[newbie] How To Network Windows XP Pro and Linux Mandrake 9.1 Together

2004-01-10 Thread Mr. Justin G. Kozuch
Hey Everyone,

I am a new Linux user (and I mean new), and I would like to network my
Windows XP Pro/Linux Mandrake machines together, however, I am very confused
as to how to do this.

I am not very good with Linux, but I am somewhat proficient with Windows XP
Pro.

What I would like to do is this:

- Access files (mp3's, etc) across the network between both machines.
- Test web applications built in the Linux Mandrake environment from the
Windows XP Pro machine, and vice versa.
- Connect to the Internet (ie, share my internet connection) from the Linux
Mandrake machine.
- View the Linux desktop from the Windows machine, and vice versa.

I have all the hardware (NIC's, cabling, hub) required, I just need some
direction.

I have searched google for information, however, I was unable to find
anything relevant.

Would someone be able to give me some direction on how to get this done?

Thank you very much in advance,

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Re: [newbie] SCO goes after Google

2004-01-10 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:20:19 +
Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Certainly if they're using 10,000 Linux servers that include our intellectual
> 
> property as part of Unix, we would want them to license," said Blake Stowell, 
> a SCO spokesman.
> ...
>  Markets are abuzz with increasing speculation that Google will seek an 
> initial public offering sometime this year.
> 
> 
> Ouch. That's got to hurt.

>From what I've read, the business community, and I can assume investors as a
subset, are not taking SCO's shenanigans very seriously. The lure of investing
in a huge potential like Google I'm sure will overcome any FUD coming from Utah.

If anything, McBride saw the news of Google potentially going public and thought
going after them might boost *his* stock among the few idjits who actually
consider SCO a good investment.

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Re: [newbie] boot messages

2004-01-10 Thread Jerry Barton
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:50:10 -0800
Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I ran kcontrol as root, and it seemed to feel that everything was
> configured.  We'll see if it happens next time, and if so, i'll look
> into lisa some more.
> 
> What did you do to fix it?
> 
> thanks for the info,
> eric

I didn't.  I actually ended up not needing lisa so i uninstalled it. 
Even then though, it all looked like it was configured properly :-/


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Re: [newbie] SCO goes after Google

2004-01-10 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 10 Jan 2004 4:43 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> http://www.forbes.com/markets/bonds/newswire/2004/01/09/rtr1205268.html

"Certainly if they're using 10,000 Linux servers that include our intellectual 
property as part of Unix, we would want them to license," said Blake Stowell, 
a SCO spokesman.
...
 Markets are abuzz with increasing speculation that Google will seek an 
initial public offering sometime this year.


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Re: [newbie] urpmi: "everything already installed" - NOT

2004-01-10 Thread Aron Smith
On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 10:09, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Friday 09 January 2004 03:06 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
> > On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 07:51, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > > On Thursday 08 January 2004 10:12 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
> > > > > > Any way, next time I will use urpmi.update.
> > > > >
> > > > > I like it better myself.
> > > >
> > > > I  just pulled a dummy ..I did an easy urpmi but left it
> > > > set for 9.2 instead of the 9.1 I was using It updated 682
> > > > packages so I might be running 9.2 now OTH I didn't lose
> > > > any data :-)
> > >
> > >   What does 'cat /etc/mandrake-release' say?   If you are
> > > running 9.2, you should also get the kernel,  'urpmi kernel'
> >
> > It says 9.2 release for fivestar
> 
> Well good for you, now get the kernel and updates for 9.2. 
> Or if you want 10.0, add some cooker sources and disable all 
> others ;>Seriously, what you did is a good way to update to 
> the next release, but if you do it with urpmi, you should
>  'urpmi urpmi' first, then update.
I'm still too much of a newbie to feel comfortable with the bleeding
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Re: [newbie] Google News

2004-01-10 Thread Aron Smith
On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 09:17, sheridan wrote:
> >On Friday 09 January 2004 01:10 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> > > Okay this is a bit offtopic...did I ever give a rat's ass about that?
> > >
> > > Anyhow, I'm probably the last to know, but I was surprised and delighted to
> > > find something that makes me love Google just a little bit more, if that's
> > > possible.
> > >
> > > First they come out with google.com/linux (bookmark that sucker folks, and
> > > *use it* before posting your question on here). Kewll.
> > >
> > > Now:
> > >
> > > news.google.com
> 
> It's been there for quite a while, but in beta. You should take a look 
> at 'labs' - it contains all the new stuff that they're still working on.
You can also goto google.com/bsd and get answers there too. ;-)
> 
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Re: [newbie] Apologies to list

2004-01-10 Thread Lanman
On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 17:15, Troy T. Hall wrote:
> Let me apologize to the list for not thinking my questions through and
> doing more research.  I don't always think clearly these days.  I will
> try to make my questions more direct and correct.  And will give back
> where I can.
>  
> Troy
>  

Apology accepted, Captain Needa!

Grin!

Lanman

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[newbie] What is the best way to configure the network?

2004-01-10 Thread Troy T. Hall



I'm thinking about reinstalling Mdk 9.2 one last 
time.  My server is a P2-350 with 320mb pc100 and a mpact 3d agp 
card.  I don't know how much memory it has on it.
 
My workstation is an Athlon xp 1700+ with 512mb 
pc2100 and a Geforce 5200 AGP with 128mb.  Using mdk 9.2 & 
Win98SE
 
The goal is to have the server serve two domains... 
camplighthouse.org & i70wfc.org both of which will be low usage domains for 
now.
 
The problem lies in that I only have a highspeed 
cable connection using dhcp.  I'm not sure exactly what would be the best 
way to configure the network/hardware.
I have a gigafast router/switch/hub ( ee400rp ) 
which I have been using but I'm not sure if thats the best way.  I also 
have a cisco 2100 router but I don't think that will help since I don't have a 
T1 anymore.
 
Any thoughts?
 
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Re: [newbie] boot messages

2004-01-10 Thread Jerry Barton
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 10:21:41 -0800
Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > > > /var/log/boot.log probably...
> > >
> > > I checked in both of those, but neither one has the list of OK
> > > and FAILED services.
> > >
> > Are you sure it isn't in boot.log?  You may have to scroll around
> > a bit, but it should be there.
> 
> Well, i guess i found the equivelent lines, for example:
> 
> Jan 10 07:19:22 cuda atalk: atalkd startup succeeded
> 
> But it still doesn't have the phantom line i am looking for, which
> says something about a failure, and that i should configure
> something...
> 
> I'll find out what it says next time i boot.
> 
> thanks,
> eric
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> 
Does it say something about 'no config - file run kcontrol to generate
one'? if so for lisa (mine did it and it took rebooting
quite a few times and watching closely to get what it was all about.)

HTH

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Re: [newbie] nav panel in Konqueror

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 10 January 2004 17:55, Lanman wrote:
> Anne; When you SU to root from a normal user, you're
> essentially still in the normal user's environment and
> "calling" the root owned application. KDE would have to
> save the profile setting for "root's" konqueror in "anne's"
> profile, and it can't or shouldn't be able to do that. Even
> using "su -" and changing to the "root" environment will
> give you the same results. Sorry!
>
> Someone else might have an idea on how to get around this,
> but I think this is "part and parcel" of the Mandrake
> "Mentality" ( as I call it ), to prevent normal users from
> loggin in as root users. Notice that the user "root" is no
> longer showing up on the login menu? That's what I'm
> talking about. I don't think it was ever possible to save
> these profile settings in a normal users profile or to save
> them for the root user. I might be wrong, though. It might
> be possible to create a new Konqueror profile and call it
> "When I'm SU'd as root user".
>
Sounds as though the only way is to log in directly as root, then save 
that profile in Konq.  Not the way I'd like to do it, though.  It 
goes against the grain of telling everyone that you never need to log 
in as root, doesn't it?

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Re: [newbie] boot messages

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 10 January 2004 18:21, Eric Huff wrote:
> > > > > /var/log/boot.log probably...
> > >
> > > I checked in both of those, but neither one has the list of OK
> > > and FAILED services.
> >
> > Are you sure it isn't in boot.log?  You may have to scroll around
> > a bit, but it should be there.
>
> Well, i guess i found the equivelent lines, for example:
>
> Jan 10 07:19:22 cuda atalk: atalkd startup succeeded
>
> But it still doesn't have the phantom line i am looking for, which
> says something about a failure, and that i should configure
> something...
>
> I'll find out what it says next time i boot.
>
Have you opened it in KWrite and used Find for Failure?

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Re: [newbie] cd with faulty md5sum

2004-01-10 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday 10 January 2004 12:31 pm, Johan wrote:
> On Saturday 10 January 2004 19:05, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > On Saturday 10 January 2004 03:35 am, Johan wrote:
> > > Now thankyou very much to those that made input.
> >
> >   ^^^
> > biso knop33.iso (alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject
> >driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=0,0,0
> > -dao')
>
> Hi Tom,
> Would you be so kind as put provide me with that script of
> yours. Exact copy on e-mail or as an attachment please.
> If you do not want to put it on list kindly direct email
> please. I have a lot of scripts for various jobs
> myself.once it works it will so everytime.no need to
> worry about all the options etc. I would like to collect good
> ones from people.
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Nice to see more stuff about cd copy/burning...I see a lot of
> traffic on k3b list.
> Being a windows user for 30 years I am used to GUI.
> Console ..if you know your stuff is powerful of course.
> Thanks
> Johan

They're not scripts Johan, but added commands (aliases) 
to /etc/bashrc  You can't use mine directly, and they depend 
heavily on directories I've created, eg, /home/tom/wav and 
configs particular to my system, eg my burner is /dev/scd0, and 
0,0,0.   Modifying the aliases should be easy tho, to suit your 
system.  I posted mine as examples.

I'll email you my bashrc.  I believe you'll understand what 
I've done. If not just ask (on or off list).

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Re: [newbie] cd with faulty md5sum

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 10 January 2004 18:45, Johan wrote:
> Hi Anne,
> Here is something similar..
> http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/BurningCDsFromISOs
> Johan

So it is - I missed that when I was browsing the index.  Thanks, Johan

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Re: [newbie] midi files, Kmid and Sound Blaster Live (solved)

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 10 January 2004 12:24, Jerry Barton wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:33:45 +
> Peter Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
>
> > > > Where did you find these sound fonts?  Which cd?  A Mandrake
> > > > one?
>
> 
>
> There are also a lot of them at http://www.sf2midi.com/

Thanks - I'll take a look there as well.

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Re: [newbie] midi files, Kmid and Sound Blaster Live (solved)

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 10 January 2004 18:33, Peter Watson wrote:
>
> The awesfx rpm includes a sound font, GU11-ROM.SF2, you should find
> it in /etc/midi
>
Yes - I have that one, Pete.

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Re: [newbie] midi files, Kmid and Sound Blaster Live (solved)

2004-01-10 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 16:33, Peter Watson wrote:
> On Saturday 10 Jan 2004 5:42 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> > On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 13:50, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Thursday 08 January 2004 22:33, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 17:39, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> > > > Ok, I did it !
> > > > Now I can play .midi and .kar files in Kmid. I just followed the
> > > > instructions in the article.
> > > >
> > > > First, I installed the awesfx package
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi awesfx
> > >
> > > OK - done that
> > >
> > > > Then , I copied the sound samples to /etc/midi/
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cp /mnt/cdrom/AUDIO/COMMON/SFBANK/8MBGMSFX.SF2
> > > > /etc/midi/
> > >
> > > Where did you find these sound fonts?  Which cd?  A Mandrake one?
> >
> > Hi, Anne!
> > I copied them from the Sound Blater installation cd. If you don't have
> > the cd, I can e-mail the sound fonts to you. I have already bzipped them
> > - their size is  6,4M. Can your email handle it ?
> 
> folks
> 
> The awesfx rpm includes a sound font, GU11-ROM.SF2, you should find it in 
> /etc/midi
> 
> 
Yes, I've seen it. I didn't try to load it because I was following the
article whose link I provided in my first message. Do you happen to know
if it works with Sound Blaster ? Is it loaded by default ? If it is,
probably not because there's no sound output from Kmid without the font
samples from the cd.

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Re: [newbie] midi files, Kmid and Sound Blaster Live (solved)

2004-01-10 Thread Jerry Barton
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:33:45 +
Peter Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> > > Where did you find these sound fonts?  Which cd?  A Mandrake one?


There are also a lot of them at http://www.sf2midi.com/

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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Miark
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:44:40 +, Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I suspect that's the crucial bit.  SA must be very capable to keep its 
> good name, but it does take a lot of training.  POPFilter, OTOH, 
> seems to train very quickly.  I had to re-install a couple of weeks 
> ago, so right now my statistics are
> 
> Emails classified:3,457
> Classification errors:15
> Accuracy: 99.56%
> 
> Traffic over the holidays has been predictably light.  I would expect 
> this to be back to the 99.87% that I had before Christmas within the 
> next week or so.  As you can see, since I reinstalled on 22 Dec it 
> has only made 15 classification errors (most of them in the first 48 
> hours) - I always correct them immediately, to speed up the learning.

I'm a sold-out POPFile fan. It has an error rate of 1.15% on my last
68,000 messages--a quarter of which is spam. And it's nothing less than 
effortless to train. I'll take POPFile over SA any day of the week. Yes,
even on Monday.

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Re: [newbie] Google News

2004-01-10 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:15:45 -0500
Todd Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here's my opml file you can import.

keeewwwl. Thanks :-)

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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:28:10 +
Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No It will not work with IMAP since Kmail cannot apply filters with IMAP.
> 
> This solution is only good for a single user with Kmail getting posts with
> POP3

Really? KMail won't put the messages through Spamassissin if they're coming from
mail spool?
 
> For other applications refer to my Mailserver HOWTO Joe mentioned.

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Re: [newbie] Core dump

2004-01-10 Thread dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] Core dump

>and I suppose it's going to start a rip file inside directory
> sources, yes ? if so I think I had better move the directory

Sure it will, but it's trivial to use -o /tmp/toystory.avi instead of 
-o toystory.avi, provided of course there's enough room on /tmp. 
Besides, if the problem occurs very early on in the process, then it 
probably doesn't matter where the output goes.

Also you probably want to start this all off with 'script' so you can 
save all the output of the session to a file.

In some cases the resultant .avi file (or part of it) may be helpful 
to the developers.

>John

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Re: [newbie] cd with faulty md5sum

2004-01-10 Thread Johan
On Saturday 10 January 2004 15:35, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Saturday 10 January 2004 09:35, Johan wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Report back on this thread and copy cd..
> > It seems the question of a cd will md5sum pass boils down how it
> > was recordedif it does not pass md5sum does not mean there is
> > technically something wrong with such cd.
> > 
>
> 
>
> Johan, this should be on the TWiki - it's too good to lose.  Only
> problem is, I'm not sure where the best place is.  Would you browse
> the index and see what you think?
>
> Anne
Hi Anne,
Here is something similar..
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/BurningCDsFromISOs
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Re: [newbie] cd with faulty md5sum

2004-01-10 Thread Johan
On Saturday 10 January 2004 19:05, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Saturday 10 January 2004 03:35 am, Johan wrote:
> > Now thankyou very much to those that made input.
>
>   ^^^
> biso knop33.iso (alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject
>driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=0,0,0 -dao')
Hi Tom,
Would you be so kind as put provide me with that script of yours.
Exact copy on e-mail or as an attachment please.
If you do not want to put it on list kindly direct email please.
I have a lot of scripts for various jobs myself.once it works it 
will so everytime.no need to worry about all the options etc.
I would like to collect good ones from people.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nice to see more stuff about cd copy/burning...I see a lot of traffic on 
k3b list.
Being a windows user for 30 years I am used to GUI.
Console ..if you know your stuff is powerful of course.
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Re: [newbie] midi files, Kmid and Sound Blaster Live (solved)

2004-01-10 Thread Peter Watson
On Saturday 10 Jan 2004 5:42 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 13:50, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 January 2004 22:33, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 17:39, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> > > Ok, I did it !
> > > Now I can play .midi and .kar files in Kmid. I just followed the
> > > instructions in the article.
> > >
> > > First, I installed the awesfx package
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi awesfx
> >
> > OK - done that
> >
> > > Then , I copied the sound samples to /etc/midi/
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cp /mnt/cdrom/AUDIO/COMMON/SFBANK/8MBGMSFX.SF2
> > > /etc/midi/
> >
> > Where did you find these sound fonts?  Which cd?  A Mandrake one?
>
> Hi, Anne!
> I copied them from the Sound Blater installation cd. If you don't have
> the cd, I can e-mail the sound fonts to you. I have already bzipped them
> - their size is  6,4M. Can your email handle it ?

folks

The awesfx rpm includes a sound font, GU11-ROM.SF2, you should find it in 
/etc/midi


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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:48:43 +
Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Saturday 10 Jan 2004 1:41 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:36:11 +
> >
> > Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Flattered as I am that Joe has referenced my mailserver HOWTO there is a
> > > simpler way of invoking Spamassassin if all you want to do is use Kmail
> > > to fetch your POP3 mail and then test it for spam.
> >
> > No, no, no, never provide a simpler method, people have much more fun
> > hacking away at various obtuse config files ;-)
> 
> Neat fix, Derek. Thanks for that. I assume it will work without POP3?
> Since there's four users on this system I'd prefer a global solution, so I may 
> go with Joe's solution, if it doesn't get too complex.
> 
> Thanks, all.
> 
> -- 
> Richard Urwin
> 
> 

No It will not work with IMAP since Kmail cannot apply filters with IMAP.

This solution is only good for a single user with Kmail getting posts with POP3

For other applications refer to my Mailserver HOWTO Joe mentioned.

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Re: [newbie] Google News

2004-01-10 Thread Todd Slater
On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 11:22:13AM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
> 
> In any case, thanks for the tip, great app, now it's just a matter of finding
> some RSS news feeds to add in. I already added Google's Canadian and World news
> feeds, not bad.
> 
> What are your faves?

Here's my opml file you can import.

Todd


  
Liferea Feed List Export
  
  
http://www.freshmeat.net/backend/fm-releases.rdf"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://www.desktoplinux.com/backend/headlines.rdf"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://www.computerworld.com/news/xml/0,5000,249,00.xml"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://openzaurus.org/oz_website/content/rss"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://librenix.com/rss/linux/"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://killefiz.de/zaurus/backend/zsi.rdf"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://googlenews.74d.com/rss/google_top.rss"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://www.infoworld.com/rss/platform_os.rdf"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://googlenews.74d.com/rss/google_scitech.rss"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://www.gadgetopia.com/index.xml"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/backend.php"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://www.linuxjournal.com/news.rss"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer.rss"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://lockergnome.com/rss/linux.php"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://www.geeknews.net/index.php?op=backend"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://slashdot.org/index.rss"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://www.osnews.com/files/recent.rdf"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://cgi.pbs.org/cgi-registry/cringely/cringelyrdf.pl"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://linuxcentral.com/backend/lcnew.rdf"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://www.groklaw.net/backend/GrokLaw.rdf"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://www.theregister.co.uk/feeds/latest.rdf"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://tuxmobil.org/tuxmobil_rss.rdf"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://trainedmonkey.com/news/rss.php?s=2"; htmlUrl=""/>
http://www.newsforge.com/newsforge.rss"; htmlUrl=""/>
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Re: [newbie] boot messages

2004-01-10 Thread Eric Huff
> > > > /var/log/boot.log probably...
> >
> > I checked in both of those, but neither one has the list of OK
> > and FAILED services.
> >
> Are you sure it isn't in boot.log?  You may have to scroll around
> a bit, but it should be there.

Well, i guess i found the equivelent lines, for example:

Jan 10 07:19:22 cuda atalk: atalkd startup succeeded

But it still doesn't have the phantom line i am looking for, which
says something about a failure, and that i should configure
something...

I'll find out what it says next time i boot.

thanks,
eric

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Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin Question

2004-01-10 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:58:33 -0800
"E. Hines" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've been running SA for several months now, and it has been extremely 
> successful.  My wife get's dozens of spams a day, and the filtering has 
> gotten better as more spams get added to the database.  
> 
> Now I want to move her account to a different machine, but I don't want to 
> start the sa-learn process all over again.  How do I transfer the bayesian 
> learns that have been run for the past few months?  Will simply copying the 
> ~/.spamassassin folder, with all its bayes files across do the trick?
> Can bayes learns be copied from her account to mine (I get a lot less spam, so 
> I have less missed spam to run an sa-learn on) to make my filters more 
> effective?
> 
> thanks
> 
> e
> 
> 
Yes you can just move the files. But a recent upgrade to Spamassassin changed the 
format of the Bayes database (I think it was 2.60), so you may find you have to delete 
them and start again.
If you have folders containing known spam and known non spam (ham) you can use 
sa-learn to populate a new database quite easily  (see man sa-learn)

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: "everything already installed" - NOT

2004-01-10 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Friday 09 January 2004 03:06 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 07:51, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 January 2004 10:12 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
> > > > > Any way, next time I will use urpmi.update.
> > > >
> > > > I like it better myself.
> > >
> > > I  just pulled a dummy ..I did an easy urpmi but left it
> > > set for 9.2 instead of the 9.1 I was using It updated 682
> > > packages so I might be running 9.2 now OTH I didn't lose
> > > any data :-)
> >
> >   What does 'cat /etc/mandrake-release' say?   If you are
> > running 9.2, you should also get the kernel,  'urpmi kernel'
>
> It says 9.2 release for fivestar

Well good for you, now get the kernel and updates for 9.2. 
Or if you want 10.0, add some cooker sources and disable all 
others ;>Seriously, what you did is a good way to update to 
the next release, but if you do it with urpmi, you should
 'urpmi urpmi' first, then update.
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[newbie] SpamAssassin Question

2004-01-10 Thread E. Hines
I've been running SA for several months now, and it has been extremely 
successful.  My wife get's dozens of spams a day, and the filtering has 
gotten better as more spams get added to the database.  

Now I want to move her account to a different machine, but I don't want to 
start the sa-learn process all over again.  How do I transfer the bayesian 
learns that have been run for the past few months?  Will simply copying the 
~/.spamassassin folder, with all its bayes files across do the trick?
Can bayes learns be copied from her account to mine (I get a lot less spam, so 
I have less missed spam to run an sa-learn on) to make my filters more 
effective?

thanks

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Re: [newbie] nav panel in Konqueror

2004-01-10 Thread Lanman
Anne; When you SU to root from a normal user, you're
essentially still in the normal user's environment and
"calling" the root owned application. KDE would have to
save the profile setting for "root's" konqueror in "anne's"
profile, and it can't or shouldn't be able to do that. Even
using "su -" and changing to the "root" environment will
give you the same results. Sorry!

Someone else might have an idea on how to get around this,
but I think this is "part and parcel" of the Mandrake
"Mentality" ( as I call it ), to prevent normal users from
loggin in as root users. Notice that the user "root" is no
longer showing up on the login menu? That's what I'm
talking about. I don't think it was ever possible to save
these profile settings in a normal users profile or to save
them for the root user. I might be wrong, though. It might
be possible to create a new Konqueror profile and call it
"When I'm SU'd as root user".

Lanman

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On 1/10/2004 at 5:44 PM Anne Wilson wrote:

>On much the same tack - I get the nav panel when I open
Konq as a file 
>browser, user mode, but in SU mode I have to F9 it.  I
can't find 
>anywhere that specifies the difference between the two
modes.  Any 
>ideas?
>
>Anne
>
>On Saturday 10 January 2004 17:16, Lanman wrote:
>> Bill; Open Konqueror. Go To Settings. Click on "Save
View -
>> File Management". You can also set additional views for
>> web-browsing, etc.,  as well.
>>
>> Lanman
>>
>> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>>
>> On 1/10/2004 at 9:21 AM Bill W. wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >After doing some upgrades, whenever I open Konqueror
file
>>
>> manager, the nav
>>
>> >panel and I have to manually start it (F9). How can I
make
>>
>> it the default
>>
>> >when KFM opens?
>> >
>> >tia,
>> >Bill W.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [newbie] lilo questions

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 10 January 2004 17:38, mike wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> >On Saturday 10 January 2004 16:30, mike wrote:
> >
> >If I were you I would try booting from CD1, hitting F1 where you
> > get a chance to restore your lilo - you don't need one on each
> > drive.  That should at least get you in again, then you can look
> > at what changes if any need making to make both versions
> > available.  I don't know whether it will be able to set it up
> > correctly with the boot partitions on separate drives, so you may
> > well have to hand edit.
> >
> >Anne
>
> Thanks Anne,
> that answers some of my questions. So I could boot from install cd
> restore my
> hda lilo.config, then boot to hda and then hand edit all the
> entries I want ie both hda and hdb and all the kernels old and new
> with  devices like root=/dev/hda
> root=/dev/hdb
> and associated partitions, images,initrd,etc. and run lilo and of
> course check make sure all is working.

Yes - I forgot to mention that you must run sbin/lilo whenever you 
have made changed.  See below about configuration

> Then possible boot to hdb (9.1) and remove lilo from 9.1?
> Or due you just leave that lilo.config alone?

Just leave it alone, it will do no harm.

To help you see how my multiboot is set up here is a section of my 
lilo.conf.  It should help you see what I mean:

boot=/dev/hde
map=/boot/map
keytable=/boot/uk.klt
prompt
nowarn
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
disk=/dev/hde bios=0x80

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
label="Mandrake91_13"
root=/dev/hdf1
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
append="devfs=mount hda=ide-scsi acpi=off"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk
label="Mandrake9.1MM"
root=/dev/hdf1
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk.img
append="devfs=mount hda=ide-scsi acpi=off"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.26mdk
label="Mandrake91_26"
root=/dev/hdf1
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.26mdk.img
append="devfs=mount hda=ide-scsi acpi=off"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="failsafe"
root=/dev/hdf1
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=nomount hda=ide-scsi acpi=off failsafe"
read-only
other=/dev/hde1
label="windows"
table=/dev/hde

Don't worry about the fact that mine is talking about hde and hdf - 
that's a peculiarity of the way this motherboard handles the drives.  
Yours will simply be hda and hdb.

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Re: [newbie] nav panel in Konqueror

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On much the same tack - I get the nav panel when I open Konq as a file 
browser, user mode, but in SU mode I have to F9 it.  I can't find 
anywhere that specifies the difference between the two modes.  Any 
ideas?

Anne

On Saturday 10 January 2004 17:16, Lanman wrote:
> Bill; Open Konqueror. Go To Settings. Click on "Save View -
> File Management". You can also set additional views for
> web-browsing, etc.,  as well.
>
> Lanman
>
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> On 1/10/2004 at 9:21 AM Bill W. wrote:
> >Hi,
> >After doing some upgrades, whenever I open Konqueror file
>
> manager, the nav
>
> >panel and I have to manually start it (F9). How can I make
>
> it the default
>
> >when KFM opens?
> >
> >tia,
> >Bill W.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [newbie] midi files, Kmid and Sound Blaster Live (solved)

2004-01-10 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 13:50, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 08 January 2004 22:33, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 17:39, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> > Ok, I did it !
> > Now I can play .midi and .kar files in Kmid. I just followed the
> > instructions in the article.
> >
> > First, I installed the awesfx package
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi awesfx
> >
> OK - done that
> 
> > Then , I copied the sound samples to /etc/midi/
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cp /mnt/cdrom/AUDIO/COMMON/SFBANK/8MBGMSFX.SF2
> > /etc/midi/
> >
> Where did you find these sound fonts?  Which cd?  A Mandrake one?

Hi, Anne!
I copied them from the Sound Blater installation cd. If you don't have
the cd, I can e-mail the sound fonts to you. I have already bzipped them
- their size is  6,4M. Can your email handle it ?


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Re: [newbie] lilo questions

2004-01-10 Thread mike
Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 10 January 2004 16:30, mike wrote:
 

Hello,
I kinda borked up my workstation when I did the kernel updates.
I have 2 hard drives both on the master ide channel hda and hdb
hda has dual boot windows and mdk9.2 and hdb has just mdk9.1
on it. Also hdb used to be hda when its install was done thus it
believes it was hda. I added a new hard drive and installed windows
and mdk9.2 edited the lilo.conf on mdk9.2 to mount hdb1 (mdk9.1)
on /dev/hdb1 in a /mnt/tmp directory like so.
image=/mnt/tmp/boot/vmlinuz
   label="9.1_linux"
   root=/dev/hdb1
   initrd=/mnt/tmp/boot/initrd.img
   append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht"
   vga=791
   read-only
So anyways cruiseing along at very careless warp speed updated
both kernels and over wrote hda's lilo.conf with hdb's lilo.conf so
was wondering can I just rewrite my lilo.conf with all the entries
from both hda and hdb and run lilo and put and identical copy on
both hda and hdb so I can boot hda again and not confuse the issue
again?
Or do I need to remove lilo from hdb?

Mike
   

Mike, early in your lilo.conf there will be a line something like
boot=/dev/hde
That is usually the hddrive on which you have your windows install, 
just because windows usually needs to be on the first hdd.  Anyway, 
the drive mentioned in that line is where it's looking to start up.

If you have done a default install of 9.1 and 9.2 you will have 
separate /boot partitions.  It can only read one, and you need to 
know which one it is reading, or to prepare both for reading.  The 
way you do that is to rename config, initrd, kernel and vmlinuz with 
the kernel version e.g. config would become config-2.4.21-0.13mdk (I 
think that's the stock 9.1 kernel).  Then make sure that both /boot 
partitions contain copies of each.

At present you are telling it to load vmlinuz, for 9.1.  The trouble 
is that vmlinuz may well be pointing to the 9.2 version.  Once you 
have copies of each in your /boot you can change these entries to 
version specific ones, and all should be well.

If I were you I would try booting from CD1, hitting F1 where you get a 
chance to restore your lilo - you don't need one on each drive.  That 
should at least get you in again, then you can look at what changes 
if any need making to make both versions available.  I don't know 
whether it will be able to set it up correctly with the boot 
partitions on separate drives, so you may well have to hand edit.

Anne
 

Thanks Anne,
that answers some of my questions. So I could boot from install cd 
restore my
hda lilo.config, then boot to hda and then hand edit all the entries I want
ie both hda and hdb and all the kernels old and new with  devices like
root=/dev/hda
root=/dev/hdb
and associated partitions, images,initrd,etc. and run lilo and of course
check make sure all is working.
Then possible boot to hdb (9.1) and remove lilo from 9.1?
Or due you just leave that lilo.config alone?
What due you and the others due with 2 linux OS's on the same box as
a general rule?

Mike


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Re: [newbie] Google News

2004-01-10 Thread sheridan

On Friday 09 January 2004 01:10 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> Okay this is a bit offtopic...did I ever give a rat's ass about that?
>
> Anyhow, I'm probably the last to know, but I was surprised and delighted to
> find something that makes me love Google just a little bit more, if that's
> possible.
>
> First they come out with google.com/linux (bookmark that sucker folks, and
> *use it* before posting your question on here). Kewll.
>
> Now:
>
> news.google.com
   It's been there for quite a while, but in beta. You should take a look 
at 'labs' - it contains all the new stuff that they're still working on.

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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread LtCdData
On Saturday 10 Jan 2004 H:37, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Saturday 10 January 2004 12:48, Richard Urwin wrote:
> > I have Postfix running an SMTP server, so I don't use POP3,
> > Fetchmail etc, just  Postfix.
> >
> > I need a spam-blocker. Can anyone point me to a How-To on the
> > subject? I've seen plenty of traffic on this list about doing it
> > with a POP3 feed, but they fit the blocker between Fetchmail and
> > Postfix, which isn't going to help in my case. The Postfix and
> > SpamAssassin websites are not helpful.
> >
> > Ideally I want one that just adds a header field, so Kmail can
> > filter it to a spam folder. That way I don't lose any false
> > positives.
>
> Could you not simple let POPFilter collect from the Postfix folder and
> set the header line?  KMail would then collect from there and filter
> on it.
>
> Anne

postfix is already set to use  procmail .. this is easy to configure with 
plenty ready made recipies or howto pages to get you on your way

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Re: [newbie] nav panel in Konqueror

2004-01-10 Thread Lanman
Bill; Open Konqueror. Go To Settings. Click on "Save View -
File Management". You can also set additional views for
web-browsing, etc.,  as well.

Lanman

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On 1/10/2004 at 9:21 AM Bill W. wrote:

>Hi,
>After doing some upgrades, whenever I open Konqueror file
manager, the nav 
>panel and I have to manually start it (F9). How can I make
it the default 
>when KFM opens?
>
>tia,
>Bill W.
>
>
>
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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Lanman
ROFL!

Lanman

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On 1/10/2004 at 9:14 AM Aron Smith wrote:

>On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 08:05, Lanman wrote:
>> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>> 
>> On 1/10/2004 at 11:02 AM JoeHill wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >Or the one that makes Homer 'giggle like a schoolgirl':
>> "titmouse".
>> >
>> 
>> I rest my case!
>> 
>> Lanman
>Two mice are in the dressing room at the Playboy club
>first mouse legs legs leg did you ever see so many
gorgeous legs?
>second mouse .. means nothing to me  I'm a Titmouse
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>

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[newbie] nav panel in Konqueror

2004-01-10 Thread Bill W.
Hi,
After doing some upgrades, whenever I open Konqueror file manager, the nav 
panel and I have to manually start it (F9). How can I make it the default 
when KFM opens?

tia,
Bill W.


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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Aron Smith
On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 08:05, Lanman wrote:
> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
> 
> On 1/10/2004 at 11:02 AM JoeHill wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >Or the one that makes Homer 'giggle like a schoolgirl':
> "titmouse".
> >
> 
> I rest my case!
> 
> Lanman
Two mice are in the dressing room at the Playboy club
first mouse legs legs leg did you ever see so many gorgeous legs?
second mouse .. means nothing to me  I'm a Titmouse
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 10 January 2004 17:01, Eric Huff wrote:
> > That's a very impressive number, but I don't see what POPFile
> > does
>
> I'm at 99.78% on popfile.
>
> I feel like i am cheating a little, though, since i am on a bunch
> of mailling lists that don't really get spaminated.
>
True, I don't get the amount of spam that some of our contributors do, 
but the fact remains that it catches almost all of them.

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Re: [newbie] boot messages

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 10 January 2004 16:56, Eric Huff wrote:
> > > /var/log/boot.log probably...
> >
> > /var/log/dmesg
>
> I checked in both of those, but neither one has the list of OK and
> FAILED services.
>
> Oh, duh, i'll just do it interactively next time.
>
> But it would be nice if it were output to a file...
>
Are you sure it isn't in boot.log?  You may have to scroll around a 
bit, but it should be there.

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Re: [newbie] cd with faulty md5sum

2004-01-10 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday 10 January 2004 03:35 am, Johan wrote:

> Now thankyou very much to those that made input.
> Special thanks for Izak Burger for detailed and good
> suggestions..this put me on the right track for finding info
> and study.
> All this was meant to understand cd burning/copy more and to
> make *good* copies for friends and for myself of course.
  ^^^
Just made a Knoppix CD for a neighbor.  I put my Knoppix CD in 
my burner (they are better readers than CDrom/DVDrom's).

md5sum /dev/scd0   (to get the md5sum)

dd if=/dev/scd0 of=/home/tom/knop33.iso   

  remove old CD and put a CDr blank in burner 

biso knop33.iso (alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject  
   driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=0,0,0 -dao')

md5sum /dev/scd0  (get md5sum for new CD and compare to 
   previous md5sum above)

Since this new CD is for somebody else, and I was too lazy to 
get the 'offical' md5sum from a Knoppix ftp site, I put it in my 
DVDrom and booted it to make double sure it was OK.  It was.

   Of course the cdrecord options for 'biso' can vary, ie, -eject, 
driveropts, speed, but -dao is _mandatory_ (to preserve the 
md5sum, and should always be used for bootable iso's anyhow).

   For d/l'd iso's all that's needed is to type 'biso ', then Enter

   My burner is a Plextor 52x CD-RW. CDr media used was 48x 
capable, so I burned at 1/3 speed, 16x.  IMO, never more than 1/2 
speed of the lesser of burner/media ratings should be used, even 
for data or audio CD's.  48x isn't three times as fast anyhow, 
but can, and often will result in coasters.  Cdrecord won't 
normally use more than about 32x +, even if 48 and 52x media is 
used, inspite of faster than 32x burners.   YMMV, cdrecord 
reports the media rating, requested, and then the actual burn 
speed when finished.


 To make an audio CD copy (same neighbor ;), I put an audio CD 
in my DVDrom, and a CDr blank in my burner and type 'cpaudiocd'   

alias cpaudiocd='ripacd && normall && bacd'
(which calls)
alias ripacd='cdparanoia -vB 1- /home/tom/wav/'
alias normall='normalize -m /home/tom/wav/*'
alias bacd='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=24 
dev=0,0,0 -pad -audio *.wav'

Due to batch normalizing the track volumes, the resulting CD 
is often better than the original (specially commercial or 
scratched CD's).

   Just 'bacd' is needed to make an audio CD from wav's after 
they're normalized with 'normall'. I like to use Xmms' disk 
writer plugin to create the wav's from mp3's. If those mp3's are 
from widely differing sources, I run normall twice.  If there's 
any doubt about the mp3's integrity, 'mp3_check' (Mdk contrib 
rpm) will let you know about them. I like Xmms cause it displays 
total time, and I can make sure I don't exceed 80 minutes.  MB's 
don't matter, they're often way over 700.
   ..

To make a data CD (including mp3's, .avi's, .mpg's, .mov's, 
etc.), I select a directory containing the files I want to burn,  
eg, ~/data In my home dir I type'mkcdimg data/' 
   (alias mkcdimg='mkisofs -r -o cd_image') 

 which creates a burnable image file named cd_image.  Then 
with a blank CDr in my burner I type  'bdcd cd_image' 
  (alias bdcd='cdrecord -v -eject 
  driveropts=burnfree speed=24 dev=0,0,0 -data')

 Those two commands could be made into one alias, but I like 
to 'du cd_image' to make sure it doesn't exceed the capacity of 
the CDr (eg, 700MB) before burning.  In no case would I endorse 
trying to overburn.

 All the above is the quickest, easiest, and most bulletproof 
way of copying/burning CD's I've found.  Just requires a little 
one time preparation, ie, making the aliases in /etc/bashrc 
'Sides all burning GUI's suck ;~>
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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Saturday 10 January 2004 11:23 am, Richard Urwin wrote:

> > I have to question that.  I know it's better known, but I get far
> > better rates under POPFile than I did when I tried SA.  POPFile
> > functions typically at 99.87% accuracy.  I don't think you can better
> > that.
>
> That's a very impressive number, but I don't see what POPFile does that SA
> doesn't. You do need to train SA, and it doesn't start using Bayesian
> analysis until it's database has 200 messages in. I don't have any
> experience of how easy, hard or accurate this bit of SA is. I run it at
> work, but the setup precludes training the Bayesian bit.

I don't really rely on bayesian filters at all, I let the DNS blocklists do 
the power filtering and just let the body filters catch the stuff coming from 
brand new sources.  I don't have particular numbers but on average, I get 800 
spam mails per week through my system and of those, maybe 1 false negative 
hits the inbox.

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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Eric Huff
> That's a very impressive number, but I don't see what POPFile does

I'm at 99.78% on popfile.

I feel like i am cheating a little, though, since i am on a bunch of
mailling lists that don't really get spaminated.

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Re: [newbie] lilo questions

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 10 January 2004 16:30, mike wrote:
> Hello,
> I kinda borked up my workstation when I did the kernel updates.
> I have 2 hard drives both on the master ide channel hda and hdb
> hda has dual boot windows and mdk9.2 and hdb has just mdk9.1
> on it. Also hdb used to be hda when its install was done thus it
> believes it was hda. I added a new hard drive and installed windows
> and mdk9.2 edited the lilo.conf on mdk9.2 to mount hdb1 (mdk9.1)
> on /dev/hdb1 in a /mnt/tmp directory like so.
>
> image=/mnt/tmp/boot/vmlinuz
> label="9.1_linux"
> root=/dev/hdb1
> initrd=/mnt/tmp/boot/initrd.img
> append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht"
> vga=791
> read-only
>
> So anyways cruiseing along at very careless warp speed updated
> both kernels and over wrote hda's lilo.conf with hdb's lilo.conf so
> was wondering can I just rewrite my lilo.conf with all the entries
> from both hda and hdb and run lilo and put and identical copy on
> both hda and hdb so I can boot hda again and not confuse the issue
> again?
>
> Or do I need to remove lilo from hdb?
>
> Mike

Mike, early in your lilo.conf there will be a line something like
boot=/dev/hde

That is usually the hddrive on which you have your windows install, 
just because windows usually needs to be on the first hdd.  Anyway, 
the drive mentioned in that line is where it's looking to start up.

If you have done a default install of 9.1 and 9.2 you will have 
separate /boot partitions.  It can only read one, and you need to 
know which one it is reading, or to prepare both for reading.  The 
way you do that is to rename config, initrd, kernel and vmlinuz with 
the kernel version e.g. config would become config-2.4.21-0.13mdk (I 
think that's the stock 9.1 kernel).  Then make sure that both /boot 
partitions contain copies of each.

At present you are telling it to load vmlinuz, for 9.1.  The trouble 
is that vmlinuz may well be pointing to the 9.2 version.  Once you 
have copies of each in your /boot you can change these entries to 
version specific ones, and all should be well.

If I were you I would try booting from CD1, hitting F1 where you get a 
chance to restore your lilo - you don't need one on each drive.  That 
should at least get you in again, then you can look at what changes 
if any need making to make both versions available.  I don't know 
whether it will be able to set it up correctly with the boot 
partitions on separate drives, so you may well have to hand edit.

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Re: [newbie] boot messages

2004-01-10 Thread Eric Huff
> > /var/log/boot.log probably...

> /var/log/dmesg

I checked in both of those, but neither one has the list of OK and
FAILED services.

Oh, duh, i'll just do it interactively next time.

But it would be nice if it were output to a file...

thanks,
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[newbie] SCO goes after Google

2004-01-10 Thread JoeHill

Quote:

"Stowell [a SCO spokesperson] said that SCO has had "intermittent, low-level
discussions" with Google..."

Ya, "intermittent, low-level discussions" that contained the words: "Go fsck
yourself" :-D

Link:

http://www.forbes.com/markets/bonds/newswire/2004/01/09/rtr1205268.html

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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 10 January 2004 16:23, Richard Urwin wrote:
> On Saturday 10 Jan 2004 3:16 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Saturday 10 January 2004 14:44, Richard Urwin wrote:
> > > If I can get SpamAssassin in it is more
> > > powerful.
> >
> > I have to question that.  I know it's better known, but I get far
> > better rates under POPFile than I did when I tried SA.  POPFile
> > functions typically at 99.87% accuracy.  I don't think you can
> > better that.
>
> That's a very impressive number, but I don't see what POPFile does
> that SA doesn't. You do need to train SA, and it doesn't start
> using Bayesian analysis until it's database has 200 messages in. I
> don't have any experience of how easy, hard or accurate this bit of
> SA is. I run it at work, but the setup precludes training the
> Bayesian bit.

I suspect that's the crucial bit.  SA must be very capable to keep its 
good name, but it does take a lot of training.  POPFilter, OTOH, 
seems to train very quickly.  I had to re-install a couple of weeks 
ago, so right now my statistics are

Emails classified:  3,457
Classification errors:  15
Accuracy:   99.56%

Traffic over the holidays has been predictably light.  I would expect 
this to be back to the 99.87% that I had before Christmas within the 
next week or so.  As you can see, since I reinstalled on 22 Dec it 
has only made 15 classification errors (most of them in the first 48 
hours) - I always correct them immediately, to speed up the learning.

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[newbie] lilo questions

2004-01-10 Thread mike
Hello,
I kinda borked up my workstation when I did the kernel updates.
I have 2 hard drives both on the master ide channel hda and hdb
hda has dual boot windows and mdk9.2 and hdb has just mdk9.1
on it. Also hdb used to be hda when its install was done thus it
believes it was hda. I added a new hard drive and installed windows
and mdk9.2 edited the lilo.conf on mdk9.2 to mount hdb1 (mdk9.1)
on /dev/hdb1 in a /mnt/tmp directory like so.
image=/mnt/tmp/boot/vmlinuz
   label="9.1_linux"
   root=/dev/hdb1
   initrd=/mnt/tmp/boot/initrd.img
   append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht"
   vga=791
   read-only
So anyways cruiseing along at very careless warp speed updated
both kernels and over wrote hda's lilo.conf with hdb's lilo.conf so
was wondering can I just rewrite my lilo.conf with all the entries
from both hda and hdb and run lilo and put and identical copy on
both hda and hdb so I can boot hda again and not confuse the issue
again?
Or do I need to remove lilo from hdb?

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Re: [newbie] boot messages

2004-01-10 Thread et
On Saturday 10 January 2004 04:22 pm, Paul wrote:
> /var/log/boot.log probably...
>
> On 01/10/2004 05:12 PM, Eric Huff wrote:
> >I know i have seen this before, but can't find it in the archive.
> >
> >Where can i find the boot messages displayed while booting (with the
> >[OK]'s and everything?  Toward the end there is a line saying i need
> >to configure something, but i can't read it fats enough, and when i
> >do a grep for configur in /var, i don't find it..
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Re: [newbie] hardware issues after installing a new vidcard

2004-01-10 Thread et
On Saturday 10 January 2004 04:08 pm, James Cammarata wrote:
> thanks for the pointer on my video problem, i figured that wouldn't be too
> hard to solve.
one thing at a time tho...

> My main issues is with my lack of sound.  I have absolutely no idea how to
> fix this and can't find any help via Google.
first set the BIOS to "plug and pray aware OS to NO, set bios it 'initailize 
video first" to AGP (or some such) set reserve IRQ for Video to yes in BIOS. 
then make sure the sound card is loaded in harddrake and the vol. controls 
are not muted in kmix or whatever mixers you want to use and include 
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Re: [newbie] Google News

2004-01-10 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 10:53:43 -0500
Todd Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > Even tried it running XFCE4 with the panel enabled, still same
> > > error...WTF?
> > > 
> > > I know you are an XFCE4 user, no? Does it put a systray icon in your
> > > panel?
> > 
> > Never mind, built it from source (had to install a boatload of devel libs,
> > but
> > it's good to have those around anyhow), and it seems to be running okay.
> > 
> > Hmmm, another one of my 'answer my own posts' thread.
> 
> Sorry about that, I remember having to install some -devel packages, but
> I assumes RPM would complain if you didn't have them already. Just off
> hand, do you recall the packages you needed? Prolly some XML things?

libgtkhtml2-devel, and ya libxml(2?)-devel, IIRC. 'Course, those then require
about 20 other packages, but urpmi took care of all that. Nothing like a
well-written configure script to tell you exactly what yer missin'.

> Yeah, I run XFce4 and it's nice having the icon in the systray. If I set
> it up to check for new news every X minutes, the icon changes to reflect
> that.

Weird that your RPM was behaving that way though, I couldn't see any build
options to enable/disable the systray icon, and when I built it, on the first
start in the prefs, "show systray icon" is off by default. Mysterious...

In any case, thanks for the tip, great app, now it's just a matter of finding
some RSS news feeds to add in. I already added Google's Canadian and World news
feeds, not bad.

What are your faves?

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Re: [newbie] boot messages

2004-01-10 Thread Paul
/var/log/boot.log probably...

On 01/10/2004 05:12 PM, Eric Huff wrote:

I know i have seen this before, but can't find it in the archive.

Where can i find the boot messages displayed while booting (with the
[OK]'s and everything?  Toward the end there is a line saying i need
to configure something, but i can't read it fats enough, and when i
do a grep for configur in /var, i don't find it..
 

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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 10 Jan 2004 3:16 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Saturday 10 January 2004 14:44, Richard Urwin wrote:
> > If I can get SpamAssassin in it is more
> > powerful.
>
> I have to question that.  I know it's better known, but I get far
> better rates under POPFile than I did when I tried SA.  POPFile
> functions typically at 99.87% accuracy.  I don't think you can better
> that.

That's a very impressive number, but I don't see what POPFile does that SA 
doesn't. You do need to train SA, and it doesn't start using Bayesian 
analysis until it's database has 200 messages in. I don't have any experience 
of how easy, hard or accurate this bit of SA is. I run it at work, but the 
setup precludes training the Bayesian bit.

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[newbie] boot messages

2004-01-10 Thread Eric Huff
I know i have seen this before, but can't find it in the archive.

Where can i find the boot messages displayed while booting (with the
[OK]'s and everything?  Toward the end there is a line saying i need
to configure something, but i can't read it fats enough, and when i
do a grep for configur in /var, i don't find it..

thanks,
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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Lanman


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On 1/10/2004 at 11:02 AM JoeHill wrote:



>Or the one that makes Homer 'giggle like a schoolgirl':
"titmouse".
>

I rest my case!

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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Lanman
You guys have got WAY too much time on your hands! Have you
considered a second full-time job? Grin!

Cumquat?! 

Gadzooks!

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On 1/10/2004 at 11:01 AM Ronald J. Hall wrote:

>On Saturday 10 January 2004 10:48 am, JoeHill wrote:
>-> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 10:33:48 -0500
>-> Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>->
>-> > granular
>->
>-> I love that word...almost as much as 'bludgeon', my
personal fave.
>->
>
>"cumquat" always cracked me up... :-)
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Re: [newbie] hardware issues after installing a new vidcard

2004-01-10 Thread James Cammarata
thanks for the pointer on my video problem, i figured that wouldn't be too 
hard to solve.

My main issues is with my lack of sound.  I have absolutely no idea how to 
fix this and can't find any help via Google.

James Cammarata
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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:01:38 -0500
"Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "cumquat" always cracked me up... :-)

Or the one that makes Homer 'giggle like a schoolgirl': "titmouse".

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Re: [newbie] Google News

2004-01-10 Thread Todd Slater
On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 09:17:50AM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:30:13 -0500
> JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > Damn!
> > > 
> > > I tried running Docker (http://icculus.org/openbox/2/docker/), which should
> > > allow for systray icons, but still no go. Also tried Peksystray...
> > > 
> > > Any suggestions for a lite systray app to work with this?
> > 
> > Even tried it running XFCE4 with the panel enabled, still same error...WTF?
> > 
> > I know you are an XFCE4 user, no? Does it put a systray icon in your panel?
> 
> Never mind, built it from source (had to install a boatload of devel libs, but
> it's good to have those around anyhow), and it seems to be running okay.
> 
> Hmmm, another one of my 'answer my own posts' thread.

Sorry about that, I remember having to install some -devel packages, but
I assumes RPM would complain if you didn't have them already. Just off
hand, do you recall the packages you needed? Prolly some XML things?

Yeah, I run XFce4 and it's nice having the icon in the systray. If I set
it up to check for new news every X minutes, the icon changes to reflect
that.

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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 10 January 2004 10:48 am, JoeHill wrote:
-> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 10:33:48 -0500
-> Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
->
-> > granular
->
-> I love that word...almost as much as 'bludgeon', my personal fave.
->

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Re: [newbie] no sound and crashing

2004-01-10 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 10 January 2004 08:01 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

-> I would say just update the existing entry, which states that
-> everything is fine on 9.0 and 9.1.  Comment about the problem in 9.2,
-> say that at present cause is unknown, and date it.  You can always
-> update again if and when the problem is resolved.  HTH
->
-> Anne

Okay, I'll do that in a jiffy! :-)

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Re: [newbie] Fw: 9.2

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 10 January 2004 13:54, P J Scott wrote:
> Been there nothing like it in my bios.American megatrends. I am
> running xp pro

Philip, it doesn't matter if you are running dippety-do :-)  This is 
*not* related to your operating system.

Please give details of your system, in terms of is it a complete 
system from a particular vendor, and also the AMI bios version, which 
comes up very early on your bootup screen - it's sometimes necessary 
to hit Pause very quickly to read that before it disappears.  There 
will be someone else here who has that particular version, I'm sure.

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Re: [newbie] Fw: 9.2

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 10 January 2004 14:50, Richard Urwin wrote:
> On Saturday 10 Jan 2004 2:29 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:
> > The BIOS is help on a ROM
>
> Argh! The BIOS is held on a ROM

Absolutely correct - sorry, mind on the real problem and not giving 
enough attention to the explanation.  Yours is much better.

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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Saturday 10 January 2004 10:10 am, JoeHill wrote:

> As long as KMail is configured to look at each message through the eyes of
> Spamassassin, it shouldn't matter where the mail is actually being
> retrieved from.

Actually, Joe, your solution provides for more control with SA as well.  
Postfix receives the mail and then directs it through Procmail which passes 
it through SpamAssassin before delivering to the local spool.  That allows SA 
global filters to be used to filter out everything over say a score of 10-15 
which is definitely going to be spam, with probably extremely few or no false 
positives.

Now, users can configure Kmail to pass all local spool mail through 
SpamAssassin yet again, this time using their own custom recipes and bayesian 
filter addons with perhaps a custom score that works for them, say a 4-5 
which is more likely to grab false positives but also will get much more 
spam.  They drop those into a folder and quickly look through the subject 
lines before dumping them.  Added benefit is that they can use bayesian 
filters to "learn" from false positives and negatives so that the custom 
filters get better over time.  Eventually, the admin could, if he wanted, 
apply some of that learning to the global filters and allow other users to 
benefit from those lessons.

That particular method gives you the benefit of having custom created filters 
in SA, which means that one user can use the DSBL dns block list, or the 
bl.spamcop.net dns blocklist while another user who may not trust that source 
can pick another one or simply not use any at all.  Finally, some users can 
actually choose to get spam and filtering can be completely turned off for 
those particular users with SA.

Not only do you get more control with procmail, but SA is a natural extension 
of procmail and also gives you granular levels of control.
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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 10 January 2004 14:44, Richard Urwin wrote:
> On Saturday 10 Jan 2004 1:37 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Could you not simple let POPFilter collect from the Postfix
> > folder and set the header line?  KMail would then collect from
> > there and filter on it.
>
> I assume you mean POPFile? POPFilter seems to be something
> different. I would have used POPFile, but I  don't use POP3, and
> POPFile wont support SMTP until February 15th. It only does
> Bayesian analysis, anyway. If I can get SpamAssassin in it is more
> powerful.

Correction - collection by local-smtp may not be possible through 
POPFile - I haven't tried it, so I really don't know.

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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 10 January 2004 14:44, Richard Urwin wrote:
> On Saturday 10 Jan 2004 1:37 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Could you not simple let POPFilter collect from the Postfix
> > folder and set the header line?  KMail would then collect from
> > there and filter on it.
>
> I assume you mean POPFile? POPFilter seems to be something
> different.

Sorry - brain not in gear.  POPFile, of course.

> I would have used POPFile, but I  don't use POP3, and
> POPFile wont support SMTP until February 15th. It only does
> Bayesian analysis, anyway.

I must be misunderstanding you here.  I'm not sure why you're worried 
about smtp?  On my system I collect mail from pop3 accounts (I no 
longer have an imap one, but the same would apply) and a local 
account.  All my external mail goes through POPFile, and by 
definition there will be no spam on the local mail, so I don't bother 
putting that through POPFile, though I would have thought it quite 
easy if you did want to.

> If I can get SpamAssassin in it is more
> powerful.

I have to question that.  I know it's better known, but I get far 
better rates under POPFile than I did when I tried SA.  POPFile 
functions typically at 99.87% accuracy.  I don't think you can better 
that.

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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:48:43 +
Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I assume it will work without POP3?
> Since there's four users on this system I'd prefer a global solution, so I may
> 
> go with Joe's solution, if it doesn't get too complex.

Derek's tip should work whether you are getting your mail from a POP server or
locally (var/spool/mail, or whatever).

As long as KMail is configured to look at each message through the eyes of
Spamassassin, it shouldn't matter where the mail is actually being retrieved
from.

It's just that, in the long run, you have more precise control of your mail with
Procmail in between Postfix and KMail and Spamassassin. For example, you can
call recipes which catch *definitely spam* mail before it even gets to
Spamassassin or KMail, reducing the load they have to bear, and your time
examining your junk mail folder and hitting the delete key so many times.

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Re: [newbie] Fw: 9.2

2004-01-10 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 10 Jan 2004 2:29 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:
> The BIOS is help on a ROM
Argh! The BIOS is held on a ROM

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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 10 Jan 2004 1:41 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:36:11 +
>
> Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Flattered as I am that Joe has referenced my mailserver HOWTO there is a
> > simpler way of invoking Spamassassin if all you want to do is use Kmail
> > to fetch your POP3 mail and then test it for spam.
>
> No, no, no, never provide a simpler method, people have much more fun
> hacking away at various obtuse config files ;-)

Neat fix, Derek. Thanks for that. I assume it will work without POP3?
Since there's four users on this system I'd prefer a global solution, so I may 
go with Joe's solution, if it doesn't get too complex.

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Re: [newbie] Postfix spam blocking

2004-01-10 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 10 Jan 2004 1:37 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Could you not simple let POPFilter collect from the Postfix folder and
> set the header line?  KMail would then collect from there and filter
> on it.

I assume you mean POPFile? POPFilter seems to be something different. I would 
have used POPFile, but I  don't use POP3, and POPFile wont support SMTP until 
February 15th. It only does Bayesian analysis, anyway. If I can get 
SpamAssassin in it is more powerful.

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