Re: [newbie] How to select the default window manager

2004-01-31 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:57:23 -0800
Lee B. disseminated the following:

> > Just replace 'exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc' with whatever command runs IceWM.
> > 
> 
> I tried using these ~/.vnc/xstartup:
> 
> exec startx icewm
> 
> startx icewm

You don't need the startx. IIANM, just put 'exec icewm'.
 
> Neither worked, grey screen w/X cursor. I'm afraid thats the only way I 
> know to start icewm or any wm from the command line.
> 
> Maybe I should try pekwm...

Not as user-friendly as IceWM, but fast and very configurable.

Also check out XFCE4. Probably a little lighter than IceWM, beotch to install
until Charles gets his urpmi repository back up, tho.


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[newbie] CNN interviews McBride

2004-01-31 Thread JoeHill

If you didn't want to power-nail this guy to a plank already, you will now.

"O'BRIEN: Well, I guess you're right, in the sense that this wild west analogy,
carrying that on, it's a frontier with no jurisdictional borders, right?
Whatever laws apply, wherever you happen to be standing are what might apply.
Nevertheless it might not apply where you are being affected.

MCBRIDE: I think that's exactly the case. With the new Linux system, it's very
interesting, because it's very open, anybody around the world can participate,
anybody can use it.

But what happens when you have a problem inside the system? Because there are no
boundaries and no control systems, the mechanism's built into Linux. Then you
have this type of behavior when you have a problem actually pop up."

Link:

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0401/30/lol.01.html

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Re: [newbie] How to select the default window manager

2004-01-31 Thread Lee B.
JoeHill wrote:

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:36:28 -0800
Lee B. disseminated the following:

On the server, there should be a file ~/.vnc/xstartup. Just edit it to start
whatever desktop/WM you want.

Just replace 'exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc' with whatever command runs IceWM.

I tried using these ~/.vnc/xstartup:

exec startx icewm

startx icewm

Neither worked, grey screen w/X cursor. I'm afraid thats the only way I 
know to start icewm or any wm from the command line.

Maybe I should try pekwm...


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[newbie] Re: Ready to update?

2004-01-31 Thread Hoyt Bailey
I looked around and found configuration, Software Management, Mandrake
update in Gnome.  Got the list as described and requested the first 12 items
in normal.  All 12 errored with (couldnt open file).
Gnome dosent work well for me.  I had to do a master reset to exit due to
the system hanging up after logout.
Is there a way to do this in KDE or command line?
Regards;
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Re: [newbie] How to select the default window manager

2004-01-31 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:36:28 -0800
Lee B. disseminated the following:

> > On the server, there should be a file ~/.vnc/xstartup. Just edit it to start
> > whatever desktop/WM you want.
> 
> OK, here's whats in it. I don't see anything indicating KDE. What do I 
> change?
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> # Mandrake Linux VNC session startup script
> exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
> 
> I looked in xinitrc and it isn't clear either... no indication of which 
> desktop or wm its loading.

Just replace 'exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc' with whatever command runs IceWM.

Or you could load up Pekwm on that sucker, and it'd really fly over VNC ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Fun and Totally useless.

2004-01-31 Thread jimdawson
I put the following script in my .kde/Autostart directory: 

#!/bin/sh
echo -e "Message of the day:\n\n`/usr/games/fortune`" | cowsay |
xmessage -center -file -

(I tried gmessage, but it doesn't work as well due to proportional
fonts...)


(Ok, I admit it, I'm a geek!)


On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 23:00, David E. Fox wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:49:12 -0500
> JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I just discovered this, apologies if it's old news.
> > 
> 
> I figured out what is done to get the cow to say quotes:
> 
> $ cowsay `/usr/games/fortune` 
> 
> :)
> 
>   
> / There are two ways to write error-free \
> \ programs; only the third one works./
>   
> \   ^__^
>  \  (oo)\___
> (__)\   )\/\
> ||w |
> || ||


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Re: [newbie] Cron

2004-01-31 Thread Dan Gordon
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:59:20 -0800 (PST)
Job Evers wrote:

> Argh.  Why doth my cron not work like I want it to?
> 
> I have the following set up as an alarm to go off at
> 630 AM.  The .alarm script works when I run it from
> the command line.
> 
> $ more .alarm:
> #!/bin/sh
> xmms /home/jobevers/.playlist.pls
> 
> $ crontab -l
> SHELL=/bin/bash
> PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> MAILTO=jobevers
> HOME=/home/jobevers
> # run-parts
> 30 6 * * */home/jobevers/.alarm
> 
> But, 630 rolls around and nothing happens (fortunately
> I had another alarm set).
> 
> In frustration, I added a new entry in my cron tab:
> * * * * * /home/jobevers/test
> 
> $ more test
> #!/bin/sh
> echo "This is a test" >> /home/jobevers/cron.test
> 
> and frustratingly enough that worked fine!
> 
> Is there something about xmms that I can't run a cron
> job with it?
> 
 
I cant answer a cron specific question, but there is a xmms plugin
called xmms alarm that sounds like what you want to do.
HTH
Regards,
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Re: [newbie] How to select the default window manager

2004-01-31 Thread Lee B.
JoeHill wrote:

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:15:53 -0800
Lee B. disseminated the following:

When using VNC KDE always loads. I would like to try IceWM and use it 
with VNC. Perhaps if I set the "default" window manager to be IceWM, 
then VNC will load it? If so, can someone tell me how to set the default 
window manager?


On the server, there should be a file ~/.vnc/xstartup. Just edit it to start
whatever desktop/WM you want.
OK, here's whats in it. I don't see anything indicating KDE. What do I 
change?

#!/bin/sh
# Mandrake Linux VNC session startup script
exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
I looked in xinitrc and it isn't clear either... no indication of which 
desktop or wm its loading.


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Re: [newbie] How to select the default window manager

2004-01-31 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:15:53 -0800
Lee B. disseminated the following:

> When using VNC KDE always loads. I would like to try IceWM and use it 
> with VNC. Perhaps if I set the "default" window manager to be IceWM, 
> then VNC will load it? If so, can someone tell me how to set the default 
> window manager?

On the server, there should be a file ~/.vnc/xstartup. Just edit it to start
whatever desktop/WM you want.

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[newbie] How to select the default window manager

2004-01-31 Thread Lee B.
When using VNC KDE always loads. I would like to try IceWM and use it 
with VNC. Perhaps if I set the "default" window manager to be IceWM, 
then VNC will load it? If so, can someone tell me how to set the default 
window manager?

Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] Router Question

2004-01-31 Thread Lee B.
JoeHill wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:52:28 -0800
> aronsmith disseminated the following:
>
>
>> OK.. I got off my dead arse and bought a small hard drive some ram and 3
>> NICs for the spare box I want to make a firewall/router out of it I also
>> bought 3 non crossover cables (did I get the right ones?)
>
>
>
> Yep, you want straight through.
>
>
>> This is an old compaqbox 500 Mhz and will have 128Mb Ram (I know its a
>> lot for a firwall but thats all they had) any suggestions
>
>
>
> If it has a CDROM drive, you can't beat:
>
> http://www.smoothwall.org/
>
Actually, IPCop may be a better choice. Its roots are smoothwall, but 
it's had a lot of improvements since it branched off. Its really worth a 
look. http://www.ipcop.org. Its free, with an active support community 
and email list.


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Re: [newbie] Router Question

2004-01-31 Thread aronsmith
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 16:56, JoeHill wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:52:28 -0800
> aronsmith disseminated the following:
> 
> > OK.. I got off my dead arse and bought a small hard drive some ram and 3
> > NICs for the spare box I want to make a firewall/router out of it I also
> > bought 3 non crossover cables (did I get the right ones?)
> 
> Yep, you want straight through.
> 
> > This is an old compaqbox 500 Mhz and will have 128Mb Ram (I know its a
> > lot for a firwall but thats all they had) any suggestions 
> 
> If it has a CDROM drive, you can't beat:
> 
> http://www.smoothwall.org/
> 
> Burn the ISO, boot your router box from the CD, and you got yerself a kickass
> firewall, easily admin'ed with a browser interface, though I think it also comes
> with SSH is yer into that.
> 
> ...and since you have 3 NICs, you get to have 3 interfaces: 1 internal, 1
> firewall, and one DMZ, where you can put stuff like gaming rigs or other
> non-security sensitive stuff.
> 
> Run one cable from your modem to the router, then one cable from the router to
> the hub (I assume you have one), then one from the hub to each machine on the
> LAN.
Nope don't have a hub any suggestions? ( I'm cheap)


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Re: [newbie] Unable to remove package?!

2004-01-31 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:57:12 +
Margot disseminated the following:

> > This is the first time I've ever encountered this in over 3 years of using
> > Mandrake :-\
> > 
> 
> How very odd! I'm not familiar with mldonkey, I have no idea what it 
> does, but could it be that it is still running, or possibly being used 
> by something else, while you are trying to remove it? 

No it's definitely not running...if it would run, I wouldn't want to remove it,
eh? :-)

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Re: [newbie] Router Question

2004-01-31 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:52:28 -0800
aronsmith disseminated the following:

> OK.. I got off my dead arse and bought a small hard drive some ram and 3
> NICs for the spare box I want to make a firewall/router out of it I also
> bought 3 non crossover cables (did I get the right ones?)

Yep, you want straight through.

> This is an old compaqbox 500 Mhz and will have 128Mb Ram (I know its a
> lot for a firwall but thats all they had) any suggestions 

If it has a CDROM drive, you can't beat:

http://www.smoothwall.org/

Burn the ISO, boot your router box from the CD, and you got yerself a kickass
firewall, easily admin'ed with a browser interface, though I think it also comes
with SSH is yer into that.

...and since you have 3 NICs, you get to have 3 interfaces: 1 internal, 1
firewall, and one DMZ, where you can put stuff like gaming rigs or other
non-security sensitive stuff.

Run one cable from your modem to the router, then one cable from the router to
the hub (I assume you have one), then one from the hub to each machine on the
LAN.

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Re: [newbie] user menu items not available

2004-01-31 Thread aronsmith
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 13:40, Margot wrote:
> Erylon Hines wrote:
> > On Friday 30 January 2004 03:05 pm, Margot wrote:
> > 
> >>Erylon Hines wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:28 pm, Margot wrote:
> >>>
> >Margot wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Checked the files you suggested - all were installed except the first
> >>one, and when I tried to get it this was the result:
> >>
> >>unable to access rpm file [popt-1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm]
> >>error registering local packages
> >>
> >>I've tried rpm rebuilddb and urpmi update -a but with no luck. Any ideas
> >>where this file should be?
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>Margot
> > 
> > 
> > I'm betting that's the problem.  All 6 packages must be installed to update 
> > and fix the  package db bug.
> > Try rpmfind.net. and dl the individual package.   I think I got mine from one 
> > of the Mandrake mirrors.  Remember, I downloaded and installed the rpms 
> > individually because I'm on dial-up and a full package update for all of 9.2 
> > would take me forever to download.
> > If you can't find it, I can mail it to you--it is only 63kb.
> > 
> 
> Ok so far... I've found the rpm through rpmfind, and downloaded it into 
> a temporary directory. What do I do with it now? Is it as simple as 
> opening konqeror (presumably as root) and dragging the rpm from its 
> temporary home into the correct location? If so, where should it live?
Click on the RPM in konq , give root password and it should install it
self.
> 
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Re: [newbie] Sound Configuration

2004-01-31 Thread aronsmith
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 12:23, John wrote:
> Hello
> I have been following the different sound threads trying to get MD9.2 
> sound working with no success yet. Hardrake lists the following 
> info.:master riptide pci audio device; module unknown. I have dl'd the 
> driver from linuxant.com and installed. Boot-up shows sound device as 
> being ok. In 9.1, i installed the driver and kmix handled the volume 
> automatically. Would appreciate any help on what to do or where to get 
> info. I have googled and checked the forums.
> Thanks
> John
I had the same problem It was the cable to my speakers :_(
> 
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[newbie] Router Question

2004-01-31 Thread aronsmith
OK.. I got off my dead arse and bought a small hard drive some ram and 3
NICs for the spare box I want to make a firewall/router out of it I also
bought 3 non crossover cables (did I get the right ones?)
This is an old compaqbox 500 Mhz and will have 128Mb Ram (I know its a
lot for a firwall but thats all they had) any suggestions 
TIA
smitty


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Re: [newbie] Unable to remove package?!

2004-01-31 Thread Margot
JoeHill wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:54:57 +
Margot disseminated the following:

Just got my server machine back up and seemingly running stable, so I
install
MLDonkey and the GUI, fire up a VNC desktop, and try to run 'mldonkey', to
which
I get 'command not found'.
Now, when I try to remove the packages (try a reinstall), I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] joehill]# urpme mldonkey
unable to remove package mldonkey-2.5.4+2-0.20040105.1plf
WTF?

When I've used urpme it has always given me a reason if it was unable to 
remove something. This message looks incomplete - did you get back to 
the prompt?


Yep, it comes back to a root prompt. No details.
 

I see you were su rather than root when you tried it - maybe you need to 
be logged in as root ("su -" rather than just "su"). Or you could try to 
remove it via rpmdrake in mcc.


Same thing, except weirder. I run 'drakconf' from a term while in a VNC session
(wait 3 minutes for MCC to start cuz it's a P166), seemingly remove mldonkey
successfully (no errors from MCC), but when I close MCC, the term shows the
same output as before:
unable to remove package mldonkey-2.5.4+2-0.20040105.1plf

and when I do a 'rpm -q mldonkey', sure enough, it's still there.

I've tried removing and reinstalling other packages, and it appears to be only
this mldonkey package that is misbehaving so.
This is the first time I've ever encountered this in over 3 years of using
Mandrake :-\
How very odd! I'm not familiar with mldonkey, I have no idea what it 
does, but could it be that it is still running, or possibly being used 
by something else, while you are trying to remove it? That's the only 
reason I can think of as to why you might have difficulty removing it - 
after that, I'm afraid I'm out of ideas!

Margot

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Re: [newbie] module.conf & loading joystick drivers question ?

2004-01-31 Thread RickS
On Saturday 31 January 2004 05:54 pm, bascule wrote:
> ok, you got me, i'm not sure, here are my two files:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] bascule]$ cat /etc/modules
>
> scsi_hostadapter
> emu10k1-gp
> ns558
> analog
> joydev
>
> the ns558 is for a second gameport so you don't need this, you will need
> the sidewinder module but you already have that listed
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] bascule]$ cat /etc/modules.conf
>
> alias eth0 8139too
> above snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss
> alias sound-slot-1 snd-emu10k1
> probeall scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx
> probeall usb-interface usb-uhci ehci-hcd
>
> #the following is to get the webcam working in large mode
> post-install pwc /sbin/insmod --force /lib/modules/usb/pwcx-2.4.20.o
>
> >/dev/null 2>&1  || :
>
> #alias char-major-195 nvidia
> alias /dev/nvidia* nvidia
>
> as you can see i have nothing in the latter file that relates to
> joysticks/gamesports,
> the device node should be created automatically, so i'm not sure how to
> help you any further
>
> bascule
>
> On Saturday 31 Jan 2004 9:57 pm, RickS wrote:
> > OK, I put in the order you showed and left the alias in "modules.conf"
> > and I still dont have the dev node and jstest fails ..
> > do I have to manually set the nod up .. js0 .. ?? it was being created
> > when I would do the modprobes manually.
> >
> > --
Well, yep thats about what mine says ..
I'm gonna look into the kernel info docs and source and see what it says .. I 
I need to step away from this for a bit .. my thought process is starting to 
go to /dev/null 8)
appreciate all the help 8)
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Re: [newbie] Unable to remove package?!

2004-01-31 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:54:57 +
Margot disseminated the following:

> > Just got my server machine back up and seemingly running stable, so I
> > install
> > MLDonkey and the GUI, fire up a VNC desktop, and try to run 'mldonkey', to
> > which
> > I get 'command not found'.
> > 
> > Now, when I try to remove the packages (try a reinstall), I get:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] joehill]# urpme mldonkey
> > unable to remove package mldonkey-2.5.4+2-0.20040105.1plf
> > 
> > WTF?
> > 
> 
> When I've used urpme it has always given me a reason if it was unable to 
> remove something. This message looks incomplete - did you get back to 
> the prompt?

Yep, it comes back to a root prompt. No details.
 
> I see you were su rather than root when you tried it - maybe you need to 
> be logged in as root ("su -" rather than just "su"). Or you could try to 
> remove it via rpmdrake in mcc.

Same thing, except weirder. I run 'drakconf' from a term while in a VNC session
(wait 3 minutes for MCC to start cuz it's a P166), seemingly remove mldonkey
successfully (no errors from MCC), but when I close MCC, the term shows the
same output as before:

unable to remove package mldonkey-2.5.4+2-0.20040105.1plf

and when I do a 'rpm -q mldonkey', sure enough, it's still there.

I've tried removing and reinstalling other packages, and it appears to be only
this mldonkey package that is misbehaving so.

This is the first time I've ever encountered this in over 3 years of using
Mandrake :-\

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Re: [newbie] module.conf & loading joystick drivers question ?

2004-01-31 Thread bascule
ok, you got me, i'm not sure, here are my two files:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bascule]$ cat /etc/modules

scsi_hostadapter
emu10k1-gp
ns558
analog
joydev

the ns558 is for a second gameport so you don't need this, you will need the 
sidewinder module but you already have that listed

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bascule]$ cat /etc/modules.conf

alias eth0 8139too
above snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-1 snd-emu10k1
probeall scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx
probeall usb-interface usb-uhci ehci-hcd

#the following is to get the webcam working in large mode
post-install pwc /sbin/insmod --force /lib/modules/usb/pwcx-2.4.20.o 
>/dev/null 2>&1  || :

#alias char-major-195 nvidia
alias /dev/nvidia* nvidia

as you can see i have nothing in the latter file that relates to 
joysticks/gamesports, 
the device node should be created automatically, so i'm not sure how to help 
you any further

bascule

On Saturday 31 Jan 2004 9:57 pm, RickS wrote:
> OK, I put in the order you showed and left the alias in "modules.conf"
> and I still dont have the dev node and jstest fails ..  
> do I have to manually set the nod up .. js0 .. ?? it was being created when
> I would do the modprobes manually.
>
> --

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Re: [newbie] Unable to remove package?!

2004-01-31 Thread Margot
JoeHill wrote:
Just got my server machine back up and seemingly running stable, so I install
MLDonkey and the GUI, fire up a VNC desktop, and try to run 'mldonkey', to which
I get 'command not found'.
Now, when I try to remove the packages (try a reinstall), I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] joehill]# urpme mldonkey
unable to remove package mldonkey-2.5.4+2-0.20040105.1plf
WTF?

When I've used urpme it has always given me a reason if it was unable to 
remove something. This message looks incomplete - did you get back to 
the prompt?

I see you were su rather than root when you tried it - maybe you need to 
be logged in as root ("su -" rather than just "su"). Or you could try to 
remove it via rpmdrake in mcc.

Margot

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[newbie] Unable to remove package?!

2004-01-31 Thread JoeHill

Just got my server machine back up and seemingly running stable, so I install
MLDonkey and the GUI, fire up a VNC desktop, and try to run 'mldonkey', to which
I get 'command not found'.

Now, when I try to remove the packages (try a reinstall), I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] joehill]# urpme mldonkey
unable to remove package mldonkey-2.5.4+2-0.20040105.1plf

WTF?

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Re: [newbie] nfs icon on desktop

2004-01-31 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 31 January 2004 14:52, Phil Savoie wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I did a network install with Mandrake 9.2 and have an annoying
> "feature" I would like to turn off.  Every time I add software, my
> laptop wants to get software from my server and mount the
> appropriate remote directory (good thing).  An nfs icon is always
> showing up on my desktop when this occurs. (bad thing, for me
> anyway as it screws up my icon alignments)
>
> Is there a way to suppress this from happening?
>
Assuming 9.2 is the same as 9.1, go th Mandrake Control Center, 
Software Management, Sources, remove the server as a source, then set 
up any replacement source you need using easy urpmi

http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php

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Re: [newbie] Persistent mount

2004-01-31 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 31 January 2004 17:35, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Saturday 31 January 2004 08:48 am, Greg Meyer wrote:
>
> ->You can use diskdrake in MCC to set up the mount points for you
> and mount the ->partitions, just be careful not to change any
> partitions or format anything. ->At the end, it will ask you if you
> want to write the changes to fstab, just ->say yes, and they will
> mount at boot next time.
>
> or you can issue a "mount -a" (as root/su) and they will start up
> now. :-)

but not automatically next time you boot.  It has to be written into 
fstab for that.

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Re: [newbie] wma to mp3

2004-01-31 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 31 January 2004 00:40, anton wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Friday 30 January 2004 05:56, anton wrote:
> >>IIRC you need to go to WAV first, and then to MP3. I remember a
> >>thread about going from OGG to mp3 and the consensus was that
> >> even apps that said they went direct actually just had a WAV
> >> step that wasn't shown to the user.
> >>
> >>The above advice is good though, as lossy to lossy will result in
> >>lossy^2, which is never a good thing :-0
> >
> > If you convert a lossy format to wav you will not put back what
> > is already lost, so you are still going lossy to lossy
>
> Sorry Anne,
> did I not use enough words?
> Cheers
> Anton

Maybe I misunderstood you, Anton.  I thought that you were saying that 
if you go from avi to wav first you would not be moving lossy to 
lossy.  If that's not what you meant, I apologise.

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Re: [newbie] module.conf & loading joystick drivers question ?

2004-01-31 Thread RickS
On Saturday 31 January 2004 03:21 pm, bascule wrote:
> rick,
> when i said put the alias line in modules.conf but try without it i didn't
> mean to imply that you didn't need a reference to analog in /etc/modules,
> cos you do!
oop - my mistake 8)  although, thats what I obviously dont fully understand 
about each different syntax for these settings. I understand what "alias" 
implies not how to use it 8)  yet ...

> the alias line simply tells the kernel that the module analog is the one
> that controls devices that have that major and minor number - or something
> like that, maybe someone else will explain:) but you will need to add
> analog to /etc/modules:
> scsi_hostadapter
> nvidia
> analog
> emu10k1-gp
> joydev
> sidewinder
>
> i see you have nvidia listed in /etc/modules, assuming you, like me are
> using the nvidia binary drivers do you not find that they are loaded
> automatically when X starts? there should be no need in a typical setup to
> specify the graphics driver, that is done in the config file for X and
> should be loaded from that reference, try it and see!
>
> bascule


OK, I put in the order you showed and left the alias in "modules.conf"
and I still dont have the dev node and jstest fails ..  
do I have to manually set the nod up .. js0 .. ?? it was being created when I 
would do the modprobes manually.

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RE: [newbie] sound

2004-01-31 Thread P J Scott


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cane Kostovski
Sent: 31 January 2004 17:42
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] sound


In a console, type alsamixer
using the left and right arrow get to the MASTER column
press m to unmute it
you should now get sound, BUT I have the problem that when I reboot my
computer, I lose the un-muted setting and need to re-do it



Thanks for that I will try it right now..
Philip.




- Original Message -
From: P J Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:06:15 +
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] sound

> On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 00:29, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
> > On Thursday 29 January 2004 00:45, P J Scott wrote:
> > > says there is no such command 
> > > i tried alsaconfig and still same
> > > ?
> > > no sound
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christoph Eckert
> > > Sent: 28 January 2004 18:50
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [newbie] sound
> > >
> > >
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > Am Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2004 17:43 schrieb P J Scott:
> > > > Anyone know why
> > >
> > > Try to run alsaconf in a console window.
> > >
> > >
> > >   Gruß / regards
> > >
> > >
> > >   ce
> >
> > alsaconf is in the alsa-utils rpm. K -> Configuration -> hardware ->
> > Harddrake -> soundcard -> run config tool -> troubleshooting will give
> > much debugging info.
> >
> > 
> > Only one problem left
> > STILL NO SOUND ?///
> > 
> >
> > Maybe a little more specific info might help :-)
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > -Frans
> >
> >
> >
> > __
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>
> Thanks, I just ran this tool and as far as i can see everything is fine.
> It has the right sound card and it let me choose different drivers.
> I tried them both and neither works.
> my sound is onboard with the 5.1 channel audio
> it is on the via chipset
> via technologies with a pci bus
> the audio controller is vt 8233 ac97
> and the current driver is snd-via82xx
>
> I have just moved the slider in the volume control and got some very
> loud noise and screech this only will go off now with the volume slider
> about halfway..???
> Thanks Philip
>
>

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RE: [newbie] sound

2004-01-31 Thread P J Scott


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cane Kostovski
Sent: 31 January 2004 17:42
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] sound


In a console, type alsamixer
using the left and right arrow get to the MASTER column
press m to unmute it
you should now get sound, BUT I have the problem that when I reboot my
computer, I lose the un-muted setting and need to re-do it


tried it . didnt work still no sound, I have the niggling feeling there
is some program missing. but what i dont know..
Philip
- Original Message -
From: P J Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:06:15 +
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] sound

> On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 00:29, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
> > On Thursday 29 January 2004 00:45, P J Scott wrote:
> > > says there is no such command 
> > > i tried alsaconfig and still same
> > > ?
> > > no sound
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christoph Eckert
> > > Sent: 28 January 2004 18:50
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [newbie] sound
> > >
> > >
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > Am Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2004 17:43 schrieb P J Scott:
> > > > Anyone know why
> > >
> > > Try to run alsaconf in a console window.
> > >
> > >
> > >   Gruß / regards
> > >
> > >
> > >   ce
> >
> > alsaconf is in the alsa-utils rpm. K -> Configuration -> hardware ->
> > Harddrake -> soundcard -> run config tool -> troubleshooting will give
> > much debugging info.
> >
> > 
> > Only one problem left
> > STILL NO SOUND ?///
> > 
> >
> > Maybe a little more specific info might help :-)
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > -Frans
> >
> >
> >
> > __
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> > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
>
> Thanks, I just ran this tool and as far as i can see everything is fine.
> It has the right sound card and it let me choose different drivers.
> I tried them both and neither works.
> my sound is onboard with the 5.1 channel audio
> it is on the via chipset
> via technologies with a pci bus
> the audio controller is vt 8233 ac97
> and the current driver is snd-via82xx
>
> I have just moved the slider in the volume control and got some very
> loud noise and screech this only will go off now with the volume slider
> about halfway..???
> Thanks Philip
>
>

>
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Re: [newbie] urpmi.setup

2004-01-31 Thread Margot
Joe wrote:
It has come to my attention that all of the benefits of easyurpmi have 
been included in mandrake in the form of urpmi.setup (thanks Tom). How 
unfortunate that this great tool is not installed by default, and placed 
in the configuration menu for KDE!! How many newbies would benefit from 
the use of this tool? How much frustration over unresolved dependencies 
could have been avoided?
/end rant

On to my question(s): The server list loaded into urpmi.setup doesn't 
seem to be a valid url
http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/mdkmirror.php doesn't seem to exist. In 
fact I can't seem to get to any plf page right now. Is this a temporary 
outage? Anyone know where I could find the serverlist?

TIA.

Joe.

The easy urpmi site has moved to http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi/ - 
unfortunately urpmi.setup seems unaware of this change, so it is looking 
in the wrong place for the list of mirrors.


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Re: [newbie] Sound Configuration

2004-01-31 Thread John
Christoph Eckert wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Am Samstag, 31. Januar 2004 21:23 schrieb John:


Would appreciate any help on what to do or where to get
info.


Try to run alsaconf from a konsole window.

Before, make a backup of /etc/modules.conf.

	Gruß / regards


Hello
Ran the alsaconf and got the messages:1.no supported PnP or PCI card 
found 2. no legacy devices
Thanks for responding
John

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Re: [newbie] user menu items not available

2004-01-31 Thread Margot
Erylon Hines wrote:
On Friday 30 January 2004 03:05 pm, Margot wrote:

Erylon Hines wrote:

On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:28 pm, Margot wrote:

Margot wrote:


Checked the files you suggested - all were installed except the first
one, and when I tried to get it this was the result:
unable to access rpm file [popt-1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm]
error registering local packages
I've tried rpm rebuilddb and urpmi update -a but with no luck. Any ideas
where this file should be?
Thanks
Margot


I'm betting that's the problem.  All 6 packages must be installed to update 
and fix the  package db bug.
Try rpmfind.net. and dl the individual package.   I think I got mine from one 
of the Mandrake mirrors.  Remember, I downloaded and installed the rpms 
individually because I'm on dial-up and a full package update for all of 9.2 
would take me forever to download.
If you can't find it, I can mail it to you--it is only 63kb.

Ok so far... I've found the rpm through rpmfind, and downloaded it into 
a temporary directory. What do I do with it now? Is it as simple as 
opening konqeror (presumably as root) and dragging the rpm from its 
temporary home into the correct location? If so, where should it live?

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Re: [newbie] Easy Urpmi

2004-01-31 Thread Margot
Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2004 11:50 am, JoeHill wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:27:54 -0600

Tom Brinkman disseminated the following:

What I ment was, would there be a way to put the Easy
Urpmi interface or concept *into* cooker.
Better than Easy Urpmi has long been in cooker, even in
9.x days.  It's called 'urpmi.setup'  Currently
urpmi.setup-0.4.4-4mdk.noarch.rpm
I'm trying it now, and it still seems to depend on plf.zarb.org
being available, which right now is not.
Wasn't there a mirror of the Easy Urpmi site? I can't seem to
find it in my archives from this list...


 That's what I get for postin about somethin I don't use.
urpmi.setup detects your Mandrake version and lists the media 
available for it.  I don't use it because with cooker, updates to 
the final aren't (of course) available yet.  I have used it after 
final, when cooker is still on holiday, waitin for the next devel 
cycle.

 IIRC, the easy urpmi site has moved, no longer hosted at 
zarb.  But urpmi.setup should list a bunch of mirrors (?). It 
won't list plf sites for the same reasons those packages can't be 
included in the distro.
The problem is that urpmi.setup is looking to the plf zarb site to 
obtain the list of mirrors which is no longer there, so it fails. There 
must be some way to adjust urpmi.setup so it looks in the new place for 
the mirror list, but I'm afraid this is beyond my level of skill!

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Re: [newbie] Sound Configuration

2004-01-31 Thread Christoph Eckert
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Am Samstag, 31. Januar 2004 21:23 schrieb John:

> Would appreciate any help on what to do or where to get
> info.

Try to run alsaconf from a konsole window.

Before, make a backup of /etc/modules.conf.


Gruß / regards


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[newbie] cdrecord NOT! revisited...

2004-01-31 Thread Terence Golightly
List,

Below is an alias of the command I used in an attempt to burn the mdk
9.2 install cd iso. When I used mkcd on previous attempts to burn an iso
to discs of questionable quality I got the error at the bottom as well.
Question: What caused the failure? If it needs to use overburn, I looked
at the cdrecord man page, but I didn't see a note on overburn; is that
part of the driveropts or a separate 'dashed' CL parameter? Or.. Is it
somehow related to the buffer being full 10704 times?

Thanks,

Terry

My new sig:

IIRC CRS 

alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=4 dev=0,0,0
-dao'

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$ biso Mandrake92-cd1-inst.i586.iso
Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg
Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '0,0,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
Driveropts: 'burnfree'
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 1
Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR '
Identifikation : 'CD-R   PX-W1210A'
Revision   : '1.01'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : MMC SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P
RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 1190112 = 1162 KB
FIFO size  : 4194304 = 4096 KB
Track 01: data   651 MB
Total size:  748 MB (74:10.80) = 333810 sectors
Lout start:  749 MB (74:12/60) = 333810 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
  Indicated writing power: 5
  Is not unrestricted
  Is not erasable
  Disk sub type: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+) (3)
  ATIP start of lead in:  -11634 (97:26/66)
  ATIP start of lead out: 359846 (79:59/71)
Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar)
Manuf. index: 3
Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation
Blocks total: 359846 Blocks current: 359846 Blocks remaining: 26036
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real SAO mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
BURN-Free is OFF.
Turning BURN-Free on
Performing OPC...
Sending CUE sheet...
Writing pregap for track 1 at -150
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01:  651 of  651 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  94%]   4.1x.
Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 683642880/683642880 (333810
sectors).
Writing  time: 1176.565s
Average write speed   3.8x.
Min drive buffer fill was 94%
Fixating...
Fixating time:2.803s
cdrecord: fifo had 10769 puts and 10769 gets.
cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 10704 times full, min fill was 98%.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$ ls -la /mnt/cdrom
total 0

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$ mkcd --checkdisc /dev/scd0 9.2-download.md5sums.asc
mkcd:
mkcd: Checking the disc
 
FAILED (computed d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e <> expected )
ERROR: Checking the disc

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$



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Re: [newbie] module.conf & loading joystick drivers question ?

2004-01-31 Thread bascule
rick,
when i said put the alias line in modules.conf but try without it i didn't 
mean to imply that you didn't need a reference to analog in /etc/modules, cos 
you do!
the alias line simply tells the kernel that the module analog is the one that 
controls devices that have that major and minor number - or something like 
that, maybe someone else will explain:) but you will need to add analog to 
/etc/modules:
scsi_hostadapter
nvidia
analog
emu10k1-gp
joydev
sidewinder

i see you have nvidia listed in /etc/modules, assuming you, like me are using 
the nvidia binary drivers do you not find that they are loaded automatically 
when X starts? there should be no need in a typical setup to specify the 
graphics driver, that is done in the config file for X and should be loaded 
from that reference, try it and see!

bascule

On Saturday 31 Jan 2004 7:52 pm, RickS wrote:
> On Saturday 31 January 2004 01:56 pm, bascule wrote:
> > you need to list the modules in /etc/modules
> > lines like:
> > alias char-major-13 analog
> > go into /etc/modules.conf
> > i'd try without adding that line alias... line first, just to check if
> > it's necessary, i don't have it for loading the analog module on my
> > machine
> >
> > bascule
>
> 1st , thx for replying 8)
> /etc/modules. looks like this now
>   scsi_hostadapter
>   nvidia
>   emu10k1-gp
>   joydev
>   sidewinder
> and I commented the alias line from modules.conf
> then reboot ...
> $ lsmod  .. shows ..
> sidewinder9848   0  (unused)
> joydev7136  0  (unused)
> input 5696   0  [sidewinder joydev]
> emu10k1-gp   2184   0  (unused)
> gameport3268   0  [sidewinder emu10k1-gp]
>
> It doesn't seem to create the dev node this way.
> I tried a number of different ways but didn't write them down 8(
> do I need analog also ... I will soon 8)
>
> although, I really don't need the joystick loaded all the time and could
> just modprobe them before starting any games which require it, but its
> bugging not to know how to set this up to load at boot ...
>
> > On Saturday 31 Jan 2004 6:04 pm, RickS wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I got my sidewinder joystick and SBlive gameport working with bascule's
> > > help by adding: "emu10k1-gp" & "joydev" to modules.   ..  and from
> > > "googling" found this added it to modules.conf...  " alias
> > > char-major-13 analog " rebooted ..
> > > then... $modprobe joydev
> > > then... $modprobe sidewinder
> > > in that order.. it works.
> > > I've been trying to get these modules loaded in module.conf but with no
> > > success. I've tried alias, probeall and modprobe ( which is a bad idea
> > > ) and read .. re-read the man pages, so what's the proper syntax for
> > > these command lines in modules.conf ? is this the correct file to add
> > > them to ? or would it be module. ?  I tried different methods but to no
> > > avail. I'm not understanding somethings about the module loading, so
> > > can any one help please ?
> > >
> > > TIA

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[newbie] Sound Configuration

2004-01-31 Thread John
Hello
I have been following the different sound threads trying to get MD9.2 
sound working with no success yet. Hardrake lists the following 
info.:master riptide pci audio device; module unknown. I have dl'd the 
driver from linuxant.com and installed. Boot-up shows sound device as 
being ok. In 9.1, i installed the driver and kmix handled the volume 
automatically. Would appreciate any help on what to do or where to get 
info. I have googled and checked the forums.
Thanks
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Re: [newbie] Easy Urpmi

2004-01-31 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday 31 January 2004 11:50 am, JoeHill wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:27:54 -0600
>
> Tom Brinkman disseminated the following:
> > > What I ment was, would there be a way to put the Easy
> > > Urpmi interface or concept *into* cooker.
> >
> >  Better than Easy Urpmi has long been in cooker, even in
> > 9.x days.  It's called 'urpmi.setup'  Currently
> >
> > urpmi.setup-0.4.4-4mdk.noarch.rpm
>
> I'm trying it now, and it still seems to depend on plf.zarb.org
> being available, which right now is not.
>
> Wasn't there a mirror of the Easy Urpmi site? I can't seem to
> find it in my archives from this list...

 That's what I get for postin about somethin I don't use.
urpmi.setup detects your Mandrake version and lists the media 
available for it.  I don't use it because with cooker, updates to 
the final aren't (of course) available yet.  I have used it after 
final, when cooker is still on holiday, waitin for the next devel 
cycle.

 IIRC, the easy urpmi site has moved, no longer hosted at 
zarb.  But urpmi.setup should list a bunch of mirrors (?). It 
won't list plf sites for the same reasons those packages can't be 
included in the distro.
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Re: [newbie] CD-ROM drive freezes Mandrake 9.2

2004-01-31 Thread Viking Skull
Yep. It's using SCSI emulation. I really have no idea why this isnt working. 
Someone PLEASE help!


From: Ramin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] CD-ROM drive freezes Mandrake 9.2
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 01:45:11 -0500
To know if you CD-ROM is emulated as scsi, you may run the following 
command
(as root): cdrecord -scanbus.

On January 30, 2004 11:35 am, Viking Skull wrote:
> Hey everyone! Just recently signed up! I've been using Mandrake for 
maybe a
> week now, but I'm having a major problem. Whenever I try to access the
> CD-ROM drive it just freezes the desktop.. I cant play music CD's and i
> cant do anything with data CD's either. The CD-ROM drive is a HP one and 
is
> recognised by Linux.. it just seems to crash it whenever I access it. It
> also crashes when right-clicking on it. The weird thing is, is that
> somewhere Mandrake told me it was a SCSI drive, when in fact it's an IDE
> drive. Can anyone help me!?
>
> Thanks,
> Viking
>
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Re: [newbie] CD-ROM drive freezes Mandrake 9.2

2004-01-31 Thread Viking Skull
Yep. It's using SCSI emulation. I really have no idea why this isnt working. 
Someone PLEASE help!


From: Ramin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] CD-ROM drive freezes Mandrake 9.2
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 01:45:11 -0500
To know if you CD-ROM is emulated as scsi, you may run the following 
command
(as root): cdrecord -scanbus.

On January 30, 2004 11:35 am, Viking Skull wrote:
> Hey everyone! Just recently signed up! I've been using Mandrake for 
maybe a
> week now, but I'm having a major problem. Whenever I try to access the
> CD-ROM drive it just freezes the desktop.. I cant play music CD's and i
> cant do anything with data CD's either. The CD-ROM drive is a HP one and 
is
> recognised by Linux.. it just seems to crash it whenever I access it. It
> also crashes when right-clicking on it. The weird thing is, is that
> somewhere Mandrake told me it was a SCSI drive, when in fact it's an IDE
> drive. Can anyone help me!?
>
> Thanks,
> Viking
>
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Re: [newbie] module.conf & loading joystick drivers question ?

2004-01-31 Thread RickS
On Saturday 31 January 2004 01:56 pm, bascule wrote:
> you need to list the modules in /etc/modules
> lines like:
> alias char-major-13 analog
> go into /etc/modules.conf
> i'd try without adding that line alias... line first, just to check if it's
> necessary, i don't have it for loading the analog module on my machine
>
> bascule
1st , thx for replying 8)
/etc/modules. looks like this now 
scsi_hostadapter
nvidia
emu10k1-gp
joydev
sidewinder
and I commented the alias line from modules.conf
then reboot ...
$ lsmod  .. shows ..
sidewinder  9848   0  (unused)
joydev  7136  0  (unused)
input   5696   0  [sidewinder joydev]
emu10k1-gp   2184   0  (unused)
gameport3268   0  [sidewinder emu10k1-gp]

It doesn't seem to create the dev node this way. 
I tried a number of different ways but didn't write them down 8(
do I need analog also ... I will soon 8)

although, I really don't need the joystick loaded all the time and could just 
modprobe them before starting any games which require it, but its bugging not 
to know how to set this up to load at boot ...

> On Saturday 31 Jan 2004 6:04 pm, RickS wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I got my sidewinder joystick and SBlive gameport working with bascule's
> > help by adding: "emu10k1-gp" & "joydev" to modules.   ..  and from
> > "googling" found this added it to modules.conf...  " alias char-major-13
> > analog " rebooted ..
> > then... $modprobe joydev
> > then... $modprobe sidewinder
> > in that order.. it works.
> > I've been trying to get these modules loaded in module.conf but with no
> > success. I've tried alias, probeall and modprobe ( which is a bad idea )
> > and read .. re-read the man pages, so what's the proper syntax for these
> > command lines in modules.conf ? is this the correct file to add them to ?
> > or would it be module. ?  I tried different methods but to no avail.
> > I'm not understanding somethings about the module loading, so can any one
> > help please ?
> >
> > TIA

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Re: [newbie] sound

2004-01-31 Thread Dennis Myers
On Saturday 31 January 2004 11:42 am, Cane Kostovski wrote:
> In a console, type alsamixer
> using the left and right arrow get to the MASTER column
> press m to unmute it
> you should now get sound, BUT I have the problem that when I reboot my
> computer, I lose the un-muted setting and need to re-do it - Original
> Message -
> From: P J Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:06:15 +
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] sound
>
> > On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 00:29, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
> > > On Thursday 29 January 2004 00:45, P J Scott wrote:
> > > > says there is no such command 
> > > > i tried alsaconfig and still same
> > > > ?
> > > > no sound
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christoph Eckert
> > > > Sent: 28 January 2004 18:50
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] sound
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > > Hash: SHA1
> > > >
> > > > Am Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2004 17:43 schrieb P J Scott:
> > > > > Anyone know why
> > > >
> > > > Try to run alsaconf in a console window.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Gruß / regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ce
> > >
> > > alsaconf is in the alsa-utils rpm. K -> Configuration -> hardware ->
> > > Harddrake -> soundcard -> run config tool -> troubleshooting will give
> > > much debugging info.
> > >
> > > 
> > > Only one problem left
> > > STILL NO SOUND ?///
> > > 
> > >
> > > Maybe a little more specific info might help :-)
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > -Frans
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __
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> > Thanks, I just ran this tool and as far as i can see everything is fine.
> > It has the right sound card and it let me choose different drivers.
> > I tried them both and neither works.
> > my sound is onboard with the 5.1 channel audio
> > it is on the via chipset
> > via technologies with a pci bus
> > the audio controller is vt 8233 ac97
> > and the current driver is snd-via82xx
> >
> > I have just moved the slider in the volume control and got some very
> > loud noise and screech this only will go off now with the volume slider
> > about halfway..???
> > Thanks Philip
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [newbie] module.conf & loading joystick drivers question ?

2004-01-31 Thread bascule
you need to list the modules in /etc/modules
lines like:
alias char-major-13 analog
go into /etc/modules.conf
i'd try without adding that line alias... line first, just to check if it's 
necessary, i don't have it for loading the analog module on my machine

bascule


On Saturday 31 Jan 2004 6:04 pm, RickS wrote:
> Hello,
> I got my sidewinder joystick and SBlive gameport working with bascule's
> help by adding: "emu10k1-gp" & "joydev" to modules.   ..  and from
> "googling" found this added it to modules.conf...  " alias char-major-13
> analog " rebooted ..
> then... $modprobe joydev
> then... $modprobe sidewinder
> in that order.. it works.
> I've been trying to get these modules loaded in module.conf but with no
> success. I've tried alias, probeall and modprobe ( which is a bad idea )
> and read .. re-read the man pages, so what's the proper syntax for these
> command lines in modules.conf ? is this the correct file to add them to ?
> or would it be module. ?  I tried different methods but to no avail.
> I'm not understanding somethings about the module loading, so can any one
> help please ?
>
> TIA

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Re: [newbie] Easy Urpmi

2004-01-31 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:27:54 -0600
Tom Brinkman disseminated the following:

> > What I ment was, would there be a way to put the Easy
> > Urpmi interface or concept *into* cooker.
> 
> 
>  Better than Easy Urpmi has long been in cooker, even in 9.x 
> days.  It's called 'urpmi.setup'  Currently
> 
> urpmi.setup-0.4.4-4mdk.noarch.rpm

I'm trying it now, and it still seems to depend on plf.zarb.org being available,
which right now is not.

Wasn't there a mirror of the Easy Urpmi site? I can't seem to find it in my
archives from this list...

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[newbie] module.conf & loading joystick drivers question ?

2004-01-31 Thread RickS
Hello,
I got my sidewinder joystick and SBlive gameport working with bascule's help 
by adding: "emu10k1-gp" & "joydev" to modules.   ..  and from "googling" 
found this added it to modules.conf...  " alias char-major-13 analog "
rebooted ..
then... $modprobe joydev 
then... $modprobe sidewinder
in that order.. it works. 
I've been trying to get these modules loaded in module.conf but with no 
success. I've tried alias, probeall and modprobe ( which is a bad idea ) and 
read .. re-read the man pages, so what's the proper syntax for these command 
lines in modules.conf ? is this the correct file to add them to ? or would it 
be module. ?  I tried different methods but to no avail. 
I'm not understanding somethings about the module loading, so can any one help  
please ?

TIA
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[newbie] AlsaMixer settings not saved after reboot

2004-01-31 Thread Cane Kostovski
Hello,

I have a Sound Blaster Live! sound card. I didn't have sound until I openned a 
Konsole, SU, and ran the command alsamixer and increased the volume on the Master 
Column and hit the m key to unmute it. Now it works great, BUT when I reboot, it mutes 
again.

How can I save the ALSA Mixer settings so that I have sound when I reboot?
Thanks in advance for any help I can get.
TrekJunky

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Re: [newbie] sound

2004-01-31 Thread Cane Kostovski
In a console, type alsamixer
using the left and right arrow get to the MASTER column
press m to unmute it
you should now get sound, BUT I have the problem that when I reboot my computer, I 
lose the un-muted setting and need to re-do it
- Original Message -
From: P J Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:06:15 +
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] sound

> On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 00:29, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
> > On Thursday 29 January 2004 00:45, P J Scott wrote:
> > > says there is no such command 
> > > i tried alsaconfig and still same
> > > ?
> > > no sound
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christoph Eckert
> > > Sent: 28 January 2004 18:50
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [newbie] sound
> > >
> > >
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > Am Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2004 17:43 schrieb P J Scott:
> > > > Anyone know why
> > >
> > > Try to run alsaconf in a console window.
> > >
> > >
> > >   Gruß / regards
> > >
> > >
> > >   ce
> > 
> > alsaconf is in the alsa-utils rpm. K -> Configuration -> hardware -> 
> > Harddrake -> soundcard -> run config tool -> troubleshooting will give 
> > much debugging info. 
> > 
> > 
> > Only one problem left
> > STILL NO SOUND ?///
> > 
> > 
> > Maybe a little more specific info might help :-)
> > 
> > HTH,
> > 
> > -Frans
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > __
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> Thanks, I just ran this tool and as far as i can see everything is fine.
> It has the right sound card and it let me choose different drivers.
> I tried them both and neither works.
> my sound is onboard with the 5.1 channel audio
> it is on the via chipset 
> via technologies with a pci bus
> the audio controller is vt 8233 ac97
> and the current driver is snd-via82xx
> 
> I have just moved the slider in the volume control and got some very
> loud noise and screech this only will go off now with the volume slider
> about halfway..???
> Thanks Philip
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] Persistent mount

2004-01-31 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 31 January 2004 08:48 am, Greg Meyer wrote:

->You can use diskdrake in MCC to set up the mount points for you and mount
 the ->partitions, just be careful not to change any partitions or format
 anything. ->At the end, it will ask you if you want to write the changes to
 fstab, just ->say yes, and they will mount at boot next time.

or you can issue a "mount -a" (as root/su) and they will start up now. :-)

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Re: [newbie] nfs icon on desktop

2004-01-31 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 31 January 2004 09:52 am, Phil Savoie wrote:
->Hi All,
->
->I did a network install with Mandrake 9.2 and have an annoying "feature" I
->would like to turn off.  Every time I add software, my laptop wants to get
->software from my server and mount the appropriate remote directory (good
->thing).  An nfs icon is always showing up on my desktop when this occurs.
->(bad thing, for me anyway as it screws up my icon alignments)
->
->Is there a way to suppress this from happening?
->
->Thank you in advance,
->
->Phil Savoie

Phil, are you using KDE? If so, then you can right click on the desktop, pick 
configure desktop from the menu, then behavior. Look at the devices section 
towards the bottom, and on the scrolling list, see if nfs is checked. You can 
uncheck it and it should stop showing up.

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Re: [newbie] kernel error/no swap??

2004-01-31 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday 31 January 2004 07:59 am, Angus Auld wrote:
> Thanks for the replies. I checked with the command,
> "swapon -s" and also through webmin, and it appears
> that my swap is indeed on and being used.
>
> I learned something today :-)thanks for that!
>
> Best regards.
>
> --Angus


Now run 'less /etc/lilo.conf'  and see if the running kernel 
has resume= in the append line. It needs to point to your /swap 
partition.  EG, (mine)

 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.2-0.rc2.1.tmb.2mdk
label=262-0rc21tmb2
root=/dev/hde6
read-only
optional
vga=788
append=" devfs=mount resume=/dev/hde1"
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.2-0.rc2.1.tmb.2mdk.img
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Re: [newbie] Transcode

2004-01-31 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:52:35 -0600
Tom Brinkman disseminated the following:

> > Anyway, I put everything back together, and I've been running
> > mprime for the past 6 -7 hours, no errors, no problems. Could
> > it be that the improperly seated NIC was the cause of all the
> > instability? I'm hopin' so, I really want that server back in
> > biz.
> 
>   Yep, and I've seen/heard of even stranger things ;)

...actually, I left it running overnight, for a total of about 20 hours, and it
was still passing the torture tests this AM.

Anyway, I'm gonna reinstall the system, as after all those crashes there's a lot
of corruption, in particular the rpm database (cannot install, uninstall
packages) and see how it goes.

Thanks Tom!

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[newbie] mailbox thunderbird

2004-01-31 Thread emnej
I have a dual boot system with winxp (fat32) and mdk92.
Thunderbird is installed for e-mail both under linux and under windows.

My question is if it would be possible to access the same mailbox with
Thunderbird when working with the windows version and with the linux
version.

Thanks for helping,

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Re: [newbie] Persistent mount

2004-01-31 Thread Paul
On 01/31/2004 01:09 PM, André Tapxure Gabriel wrote:

Hi there
I want to know how to make the system mount automatically some volumes...
When the system starts, it mounts the Windows disk automatically...
 

You need to edit /etc/fstab for that. Only root can do that, so you need 
to 'su' first.

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[newbie] kernel error/no swap??

2004-01-31 Thread Angus Auld
Greetings, I wonder if someone could tell me 
just what this kernel error message means?
Am I running w/o a swap?
*
var/log/kernel/errors:
"Jan 25 12:18:17 localhost kernel: ide: late registration of driver.
Jan 25 12:18:17 localhost kernel: Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition 
location (resume= parameter). Disabled.
Jan 25 23:30:53 localhost kernel: ide: late registration of driver.
Jan 25 23:30:53 localhost kernel: Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition 
location (resume= parameter). Disabled.
Jan 26 08:01:10 localhost kernel: ide: late registration of driver.
Jan 26 08:01:10 localhost kernel: Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition 
location (resume= parameter). Disabled.
Jan 26 11:54:19 localhost kernel: ide: late registration of driver.
Jan 26 11:54:19 localhost kernel: Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition 
location (resume= parameter). Disabled.
Jan 26 19:31:22 localhost kernel: ide: late registration of driver.
Jan 26 19:31:22 localhost kernel: Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition 
location (resume= parameter). Disabled.
Jan 27 08:30:19 localhost kernel: ide: late registration of driver.
Jan 27 08:30:19 localhost kernel: Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition 
location (resume= parameter). Disabled.
Jan 27 18:18:17 localhost kernel: ide: late registration of driver.
Jan 27 18:18:17 localhost kernel: Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition 
location (resume= parameter). Disabled.
Jan 28 08:02:32 localhost kernel: ide: late registration of driver.
Jan 28 08:02:32 localhost kernel: Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition 
location (resume= parameter). Disabled.
Jan 28 21:05:22 localhost kernel: ide: late registration of driver.
Jan 28 21:05:22 localhost kernel: Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition 
location (resume= parameter). Disabled.
Jan 29 13:32:36 localhost kernel: ide: late registration of driver.
Jan 29 13:32:36 localhost kernel: Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition 
location (resume= parameter). Disabled.
Jan 29 23:46:33 localhost kernel: ide: late registration of driver.
Jan 29 23:46:33 localhost kernel: Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition 
location (resume= parameter). Disabled.
Jan 30 07:58:01 localhost kernel: ide: late registration of driver.
Jan 30 07:58:01 localhost kernel: Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition 
location (resume= parameter). Disabled.
Jan 30 21:14:50 localhost kernel: ide: late registration of driver.
Jan 30 21:14:50 localhost kernel: Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition 
location (resume= parameter). Disabled.
Jan 31 07:19:35 localhost kernel: ide: late registration of driver.
Jan 31 07:19:35 localhost kernel: Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition 
location (resume= parameter). Disabled."
**
TIA for any insight on this.

Best regards to all.

--Angus

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[newbie] Persistent mount

2004-01-31 Thread André Tapxure Gabriel
Hi there
I want to know how to make the system mount automatically some volumes...
When the system starts, it mounts the Windows disk automatically...
Thanks
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Re: [newbie] Strange system slowness

2004-01-31 Thread Paul
On 01/31/2004 11:59 AM, Charlie wrote:

Run top and see if there is something running in the background.

Tried that and found nothing strange there.

I did find something though. I run a program called mailfilter just 
before I pull e-mail. That checks the headers of all the mails on the 
server and deletes stuff, guided by a set of regexps. Now I set things 
up to leave mail on the server for 1 day, so I can access things through 
Webmail also when I am somewhere else.
With the big load of viral mail that goes around, mailfilter uses a lof 
of CPU to scan all those mails (every 3 minutes). In a test I 
deactivated mailfilter, and the weird slug-effect went away...
Seems that I need to update the regexps, so it throws out all 'hi' and 
'error' subjects and all that other cap that comes by.

I also set up portsentry again, just to make sure things are safe on 
that end also.

Thanks for the idea!
Paul
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Re: [newbie] Intel obviously didn't learn from MS

2004-01-31 Thread Paul

> > Josenildo Marques disseminated the following:
> > 
> > > There are known knowns.
> > > These are things we know that we know.
> > > There are known unkowns.
> > > That is to say, there are things we know we don't know.
> > > But, there are also unknown unknowns.
> > > These are things we don't know we don't know.

Similar to the 4 stages of skill development

unconcious incompetence (we don't know we can't do it)
concious incompetence  (we know we can't do it)
concious competence (we do it, but need to think about what we're
doing), and
unconcious competence (we do it without thinking about it)

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Re: [newbie] Strange system slowness

2004-01-31 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 07:10 pm, many eyes noted that Paul wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Since about a week (since the last massive outbreak of virusses?) I
> sometimes experience a very strange system slowness in responding. Not
> constantly, but sometimes with switching desktops it can take upto 10
> seconds before the windows are redrawn. Programs start up very slowly
> then, even the reponse to my typing is lagging in a very unusual way.
> I have not added hardware, software or intense cron entries lately.
>
> This machine is a six month old 1.2Ghz P4 with 512Mb ram running MDK9.1
> and IceWm.
>
> This sluggishness has never happened before. I have a firewall running
> (IPTables, rules set up with the EasyTables script).
>
> Does anyone else experience this at times? After a reboot things are
> fine for a few days, but I don't want to keep rebooting the box every
> couple of days. Ideas or tips are welcome.
>
> Paul

Run top and see if there is something running in the background.

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[newbie] Strange system slowness

2004-01-31 Thread Paul
Hi all,

Since about a week (since the last massive outbreak of virusses?) I 
sometimes experience a very strange system slowness in responding. Not 
constantly, but sometimes with switching desktops it can take upto 10 
seconds before the windows are redrawn. Programs start up very slowly 
then, even the reponse to my typing is lagging in a very unusual way.
I have not added hardware, software or intense cron entries lately.

This machine is a six month old 1.2Ghz P4 with 512Mb ram running MDK9.1 
and IceWm.

This sluggishness has never happened before. I have a firewall running 
(IPTables, rules set up with the EasyTables script).

Does anyone else experience this at times? After a reboot things are 
fine for a few days, but I don't want to keep rebooting the box every 
couple of days. Ideas or tips are welcome.

Paul

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