[newbie] Re: Disk Cloning

2004-02-13 Thread login

Hello,

I have two hard drives of each 60 GB on Mandrake system
[Linux host.domain.com 2.4.18-6mdk #1 Fri Mar 15 05:19:06
CET 2002 i686 unknown].

I am interested to clone them using application called
Acronis trueImage to the same manufacturer's identical hard
drives. This is what I would do:

1. Power down the system and take out the existing hard drives.
2. Make the copy of each disk to new one using said software.
3. Insert the new ones and to see if things seems normal.
4. Power down the system again and insert the old existing
   hard drives into system and power up and examine the
   structure.

Anything, I should be careful other than using anti-static
strap all the time?

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[newbie] DVD-ROM drive won't read after enabling scsi emulation

2004-02-13 Thread Marv Boyes
Hello, all. I've had quite an ordeal trying to enable scsi emulation for my 
DVD-ROM drive. I've finally managed to do it with lots of help from 
alt.os.linux.mandrake, at
least to the point that K3B favors it as a copy source again; but though
it mounts with no problem, I get no response to attempts to read from it.

I'm running Mandrake 9.2, kernel 2.4.22-10mdk. It's a Samsung SD-608 DVD-ROM.

Here's the section of /etc/fstab that refers to the two optical drives I have:

none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
none /mnt/cdrw supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0


And the pertinent /boot/grub/menu.lst entry:

kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi 
hdd=ide-scsi acpi=ht


Incidentally, the CD-RW drive (/dev/scd0) reads & writes without problems.


Today, noticing that a filesystem was specified in my work machine's fstab (as 
well as in samples offered by people who've tried to help me with this), I 
added one to my own fstab entry for the device, thus:

none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/scd1,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0


Afterward, the drive just spins for several minutes and comes up with nothing. 
I ran a tail of /var/log/messages during one of the read attempts; this is a 
bit of what I got:

Feb 13 18:08:32 localhost kernel: ide-scsi: expected 2048 got 4096 limit 2048
Feb 13 18:08:32 localhost kernel: ide-scsi: The scsi wants to send us more 
data than expected - discarding data
Feb 13 18:08:32 localhost kernel: ide-scsi: [[ 28 0 0 0 0 63 0 0 1 0 0 0 ]
Feb 13 18:08:32 localhost kernel: ]
Feb 13 18:08:32 localhost kernel: ide-scsi: expected 2048 got 4096 limit 2048
Feb 13 18:08:32 localhost kernel: Unable to identify CD-ROM format.


There were several screens' worth of output, and different values for the line 
'kernel: ide-scsi: [[numbers numbers numbers]'. So now I know _why_ the drive 
won't read anything, but I have no clue what to make of it. Desperately 
hoping someone else does.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much in advance.


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Re: [newbie] How do I install Mandrake and 'triple boot'?

2004-02-13 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 00:33, Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf wrote:


> 
> As far as I know, Grub should be ok with this, but don't 
> hold me to it.

What should I say to the bootloader option when installing Mandrake? 
MBR?

Thanks

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it has a blur. I would change things for you if I could; As I can't, you
must take them as they are.
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Re: [newbie] How do I install Mandrake and 'triple boot'?

2004-02-13 Thread Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf
On Friday 13 February 2004 10:17 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:

> How would I go about installing Mandrake such that I have
> a triple boot environment?  

When it boots up from the CD, you need to resize SuSE. If 
you have Reiser FS it may be hard, but don;t give up. You 
need the SuSE partition to be smaller, and use existing 
free space for Mandrake. Just make it smaller by a few gigs 
and have a ball. Also, in case you get REALLy stuck, google 
for partitioning.

> Once done, how should the bootloader be handled so that I
> can choose any of the three to boot into?

As far as I know, Grub should be ok with this, but don't 
hold me to it.


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[newbie] CAN'T INSTALL FLASH PLAYER FOR MOZILLA ON PPC

2004-02-13 Thread Josh
I have 9.1 running my G4 and i tried to install the macromedia flash player
for Mozilla; i'm pretty sure i installed it correctly because i got an error
saying something along the lines of an imcompatiblitly with my "system
architecture."  Is there any solution to this?


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Re: [newbie] Getting a certain IP every time.

2004-02-13 Thread Marc Resnick
On Friday 13 February 2004 10:27 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2004 08:24 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
> > On Friday 13 February 2004 08:13 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> > > On Friday 13 February 2004 07:18 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
> > > > > Marc; Why not set your PC to a static IP address? That would solve
> > > > > it permanently.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lanman
> > > >
> > > > True, it would. But understand that I'm just 13 and my Dad's a bit
> > > > sketchy about doing these things.
> > >
> > > Why, cause maybe your trying to do something he wouldn't approve of?
> > > Shame on you.
> > >
> > > Or maybe it's just a game or something your trying to play through the
> > > firewall and he don't get it.
> >
> > Or maybe he doesn't like messing with settings when his computers are
> > working fine?
> >
> > And if you must pry I'm setting up an America's Army server.
> > www.americasarmy.com
> >
> > Not a bad game, either, made by the US army. I think there might be some
> > subliminal messages though... =/
> > I especially like it because they actually took the time to make a Linux
> > version. =)
>
> Please don't take offense, I was just being tongue-in-cheek.


Not a problem, I had just woken up from my nap. A bit cranky. =)


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Re: [newbie] Preparing (hopefully) to install (Compaq laptop, anybody?)

2004-02-13 Thread Marc Resnick
On Friday 13 February 2004 10:18 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2004 03:38 pm, marc resnick wrote:
> > On Friday 13 February 2004 03:29 pm, Chuck Mattsen wrote:
> >>> whack
> >
> > I recently installed Mandrake on a 2190US...
> > No, it won't resize the Windows Partition they made, and you'll need a
> > 3rd party program. Here's what I suggest. Get Partition magic. Resize the
> > Windows Partition. Then use the Linux install to auto allocate, and it'll
> > create the three partitions you need. If you don't want to buy
> > PM...well..um...definitely don't get an illegal copy...;-)
> >
> > Mandrake will configure the boot and all that stuff. After that, just
> > delete your Windows partition, and everything will be just fine. =)
> >
> > Marc
>
> Marc:
> There's a freeware program (Ranish Partition Manager) that is supposed to
> do everything that PM can do. I've never used it myself, but I've seen lots
> of good words about it elsewhere. Perhaps that might get Chuck going.
> Legally. My main reservation is if it will handle the strange stuff that
> Compaq does. -- cmg


Oh I searched far and wide for a free Partition Manager. Ranish seemed to be a 
popular one. Unfortunately,  it doesn't resize partitions. Only creates, 
deletes, and all that stuff.


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Re: [newbie] 2.6: The Speed Demon

2004-02-13 Thread David E. Fox
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 18:44:07 +
Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> partition will the 2.4 FS and the 2.6 FS be compatible, and will I have 
> the capability bits when running in 2.6?

I'm not noticing any problems. I'm running 2.6.2 tmb something from cooker contrib.

> Richard Urwin


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Re: [newbie] Preparing (hopefully) to install (Compaq laptop, anybody?)

2004-02-13 Thread Chuck Mattsen
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 22:29:24 -0500
Walt Frampus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Walt> I am thinking about buying a compaq at work and following this
  thread would a HP be better then? 

I'll let you know in ... oh ... about 18 minutes or so :-)

Thanks to all who offered suggestions and advice.  Here's where things
stand. 

I actually /had/ found that Ranish partitioner thingamabob, but it
appeared beyond my scope of (VERY limited) knowledge, so I managed to
get PM from a friend.  Had lots of errors with that until I scanned
the disk for errors and defragged (again), then it FINALLY let me
resize the XP partition and the install is currently taking place.

We'll see how it goes. :-)

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Re: [newbie] Preparing (hopefully) to install (Compaq laptop, anybody?)

2004-02-13 Thread Walt Frampus
On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 22:18, Carroll Grigsby wrote:

> Marc:
> There's a freeware program (Ranish Partition Manager) that is supposed to do 
> everything that PM can do. I've never used it myself, but I've seen lots of 
> good words about it elsewhere. Perhaps that might get Chuck going. Legally. 
> My main reservation is if it will handle the strange stuff that Compaq does.
> -- cmg
> 
> 
> 
> __
I am thinking about buying a compaq at work and following this thread
would a HP be better then? 

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Re: [newbie] Getting a certain IP every time.

2004-02-13 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 13 February 2004 08:24 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2004 08:13 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> > On Friday 13 February 2004 07:18 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
> > > > Marc; Why not set your PC to a static IP address? That would solve it
> > > > permanently.
> > > >
> > > > Lanman
> > >
> > > True, it would. But understand that I'm just 13 and my Dad's a bit
> > > sketchy about doing these things.
> >
> > Why, cause maybe your trying to do something he wouldn't approve of? 
> > Shame on you.
> >
> > Or maybe it's just a game or something your trying to play through the
> > firewall and he don't get it.
>
> Or maybe he doesn't like messing with settings when his computers are
> working fine?
>
> And if you must pry I'm setting up an America's Army server.
> www.americasarmy.com
>
> Not a bad game, either, made by the US army. I think there might be some
> subliminal messages though... =/
> I especially like it because they actually took the time to make a Linux
> version. =)
>
Please don't take offense, I was just being tongue-in-cheek.
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Re: [newbie] Preparing (hopefully) to install (Compaq laptop, anybody?)

2004-02-13 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Friday 13 February 2004 03:38 pm, marc resnick wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2004 03:29 pm, Chuck Mattsen wrote:

>>> whack

> I recently installed Mandrake on a 2190US...
> No, it won't resize the Windows Partition they made, and you'll need a 3rd
> party program. Here's what I suggest. Get Partition magic. Resize the
> Windows Partition. Then use the Linux install to auto allocate, and it'll
> create the three partitions you need. If you don't want to buy
> PM...well..um...definitely don't get an illegal copy...;-)
>
> Mandrake will configure the boot and all that stuff. After that, just
> delete your Windows partition, and everything will be just fine. =)
>
> Marc

Marc:
There's a freeware program (Ranish Partition Manager) that is supposed to do 
everything that PM can do. I've never used it myself, but I've seen lots of 
good words about it elsewhere. Perhaps that might get Chuck going. Legally. 
My main reservation is if it will handle the strange stuff that Compaq does.
-- cmg


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[newbie] How do I install Mandrake and 'triple boot'?

2004-02-13 Thread Trey Sizemore
I have a machine currently setup with Win2000 (6GB) and SUSE 9.0 taking
up the remainder of an 80GB hard drive.  I downloaded the ISOs for
Mandrake 10 Beta 2 and wanted to give it a try on this machine.  I'm
currently using GRUB as my bootloader.

How would I go about installing Mandrake such that I have a triple boot
environment?  Will it natively offer to resize the SUSE partition to
make room or should I use something like Partition Magic to resize them?

Once done, how should the bootloader be handled so that I can choose any
of the three to boot into?

If someone has done something like this before, I'd appreciate the
input!

Thanks.
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Re: [newbie] User can't switch off...but Root can!

2004-02-13 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 07:09 am, robin wrote:
> Margot wrote:
> > robin wrote:
> >> Margot wrote:
> >>> I must have done something really stupid, but I don't know what...!
> >>>
> >>> Up until a couple of weeks ago, I used to be able to click on the
> >>> Logout button, get a choice of 3 options (Login as different user;
> >>> Turn off computer; Restart computer) select 'Turn off computer', and
> >>> everything would gradually shut down and eventually the power would
> >>> switch off.
> >>>
> >>> This doesn't happen any more! When I select 'Turn off computer' I get
> >>> a black screen with a white mouse pointer arrow in the middle,
> >>> keyboard and mouse don't work, and nothing shuts down - I have to
> >>> switch off the power switch button. When I switch on next day, system
> >>> complains that it has shut down 'uncleanly'.
> >>>
> >>> Only way I've found to get a clean shutdown now is to open a
> >>> terminal, su to root (doesn't work as user!), and do 'shutdown -h -t
> >>> 10 now'.
> >>>
> >>> What have I done? How do I fix it?
> >>>
> >>> Seems ridiculous that I have to be root to shut down the computer! Is
> >>> this some sort of permissions problem?
> >>
> >> Only allowing root to be able to shut down the computer goes way back
> >> to the early days of Unix, where you didn't want ordinary users to be
> >> able to shut down or reboot terminals. Consequently, AFAIK it is still
> >> the default on Unix-type systems.
> >>
> >> Make sure that auto-login is off in MCC, then enable it in KDE (System
> >> -> Login Manager, and click Administrator Mode). That might do the
> >> trick.  Occasionally some other system change will reset it, which
> >> might be the cause of your problem (for example, I had to go back and
> >> put in the settings I wanted after updating KDE).
> >>
> >> Sir Robin
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion Robin. Unfortunately I don't have a 'Login
> > Manager' option on the System section (or anywhere else) on my KDE menu.
> > Can you (or some other kind person) tell me what the package is called,
> > so I can call it up from a terminal?
>
> Don't go through the menu, go to the KDE Control Center (which normally
> appears on the menu as "Configure your desktop"). Sorry, I should have
> made that clear.
>
> Sir Robin

or in a terminal type kcontrol for the KDE control centre or MCC for Mandrake 
control centre.

Charlie.

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[newbie] KMail doesn't understand mime?

2004-02-13 Thread Charlie
Below is a message that I find in the source from a Mac machine:- 

> THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand
this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.

I wonder what generates this message? KMail? The Mac Machine or what other? I 
have had no problems reading the mails from this machine I just wonder about 
it.

Status: R 
X-Status: N
X-KMail-EncryptionState:  
X-KMail-SignatureState:  

> THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand
this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.

--MS_Mac_OE_3159242264_85620_MIME_Part
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit

Thanks in advance for any help.
Charlie
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Re: [newbie] LCP timeout sending Config-Requests

2004-02-13 Thread John Rye
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:21:52 +
Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John Rye wrote:
> > On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 17:13:16 +
> > Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Dear All
> >>
> >>I have everything configured on my computer to connect to the
> >Internet>through Mandrake 9.2. However, I always get the following
> >message (in>/var/log/messages):
> >>
> >>LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
> >>
> >>The username/password are not authenticated. Could somebody here
> >>please help me?
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > first read the pppd man page ('man pppd' in a terminal) then edit
> > /etc/ppp/options to reflect the following, it should(tm) solve the
> > LCP timeouts.
> > 
> > lock
> > debug
> > noauth
> > defaultroute
> > lcp-max-configure 45
> > ipcp-accept-local
> > ipcp-accept-remote
> > idle 600
> > 
> > cheers
> > 
> > John (nz)
> 
> John,
> 
> Thanks! I did as you suggest, but no progress, unfortunately. Maybe, I
> should buy a Ethernet modem...

I guess you mean "external modem" here? My spellchecker does this
too :-))

What type of modem do you have? Winmodem???

Does it work in any other operating systems you have access to?

Have you "talked" to your ISP?

Does your ISP have a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) which addresses
this type of problem?

I would suggest that if you are on dialup then an external modem is a
much more reliable option despite the bunch of extra cables it imposes
on you.

The other think to check is that your ISP' dns numbers and domain name
are listed in both /etc/ppp/resolv.conf and /etc/resolv.conf - like mine
below:

$ cat /etc/ppp/resolv.conf
nameserver 203.97.33.14
nameserver 203.97.37.14

$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
search clear.net.nz localhost.localdomain
nameserver 203.97.33.14
nameserver 203.97.37.14
nameserver 192.168.1.2

Cheers

John (nz)

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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat install

2004-02-13 Thread Aron Smith
On Friday 13 February 2004 06:14 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2004 02:25 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:14:18 -0500
> >
> > mcoady disseminated the following:
> > > Has anyone using Mandrake 9.2 succeeded in installing Adobe Acrobat
> > > Reader. Somehow the linux-ar-405.tar.gz program has defeated everything
> > > I've tried.
> >
> > GPDF is pretty nice. Just:
> >
> > urpmi gpdf
> >
> > Free, and Open Source.
>
> KGhostview works fine for me. AFAIK, it's part of the Mandrake default
> installation. I also have Acrobat Reader installed, but that is probably
> because I have the PowerPack edition and, as Joe points out, it ain't GPL.
> -- cmg
I have had some (not much) trouble with downloaded .pdf documents using 
Kghostview.


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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat install

2004-02-13 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Friday 13 February 2004 02:25 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:14:18 -0500
>
> mcoady disseminated the following:
> > Has anyone using Mandrake 9.2 succeeded in installing Adobe Acrobat
> > Reader. Somehow the linux-ar-405.tar.gz program has defeated everything
> > I've tried.
>
> GPDF is pretty nice. Just:
>
> urpmi gpdf
>
> Free, and Open Source.

KGhostview works fine for me. AFAIK, it's part of the Mandrake default 
installation. I also have Acrobat Reader installed, but that is probably 
because I have the PowerPack edition and, as Joe points out, it ain't GPL.
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Re: [newbie] Getting a certain IP every time.

2004-02-13 Thread Marc Resnick
On Friday 13 February 2004 08:13 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2004 07:18 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
> > > Marc; Why not set your PC to a static IP address? That would solve it
> > > permanently.
> > >
> > > Lanman
> >
> > True, it would. But understand that I'm just 13 and my Dad's a bit
> > sketchy about doing these things.
>
> Why, cause maybe your trying to do something he wouldn't approve of?  Shame
> on you.
>
> Or maybe it's just a game or something your trying to play through the
> firewall and he don't get it.

Or maybe he doesn't like messing with settings when his computers are working 
fine?

And if you must pry I'm setting up an America's Army server. 
www.americasarmy.com 

Not a bad game, either, made by the US army. I think there might be some 
subliminal messages though... =/
I especially like it because they actually took the time to make a Linux 
version. =)

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Re: [newbie] Getting a certain IP every time.

2004-02-13 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 13 February 2004 07:18 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
> > Marc; Why not set your PC to a static IP address? That would solve it
> > permanently.
> >
> > Lanman
>
> True, it would. But understand that I'm just 13 and my Dad's a bit sketchy
> about doing these things.

Why, cause maybe your trying to do something he wouldn't approve of?  Shame on 
you.

Or maybe it's just a game or something your trying to play through the 
firewall and he don't get it.
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Re: [newbie] Good News

2004-02-13 Thread Aron Smith
On Friday 13 February 2004 04:26 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> The nice reviews are still coming in.  Mandrake on the Shuttle XPC.
>
> http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=491
that is one sweet review :-D


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Re: [newbie] Wireless Notebook Card

2004-02-13 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 14 February 2004 01:40, lanman wrote:
> HarM; Have a look at this site;
>
> http://www.gvc.ca

I just havethey look OK but suffer from the same lack as most retailers 
do; they won't/can't tell exactly what chips they're using. Alas their cards 
are all cardbus too, so no slot 1. I don't think slot 1 even exists for G 
cards.

Their pricing is right on the mark but as for testing AFAIK only prism2 
supports HostAP in the linux kernel so that would be a point minus. On the 
other hand they wouldn't be selling routers if the same trick could be done 
on Windows, would they?:)
You'll be having fun testing them, that's for sure.atmels are like 
reluctant kids; you have to drag them over:)

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat install

2004-02-13 Thread Marc Resnick
On Friday 13 February 2004 07:28 pm, Erylon Hines wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2004 11:25 am, JoeHill wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:14:18 -0500
> >
> > mcoady disseminated the following:
> > > Has anyone using Mandrake 9.2 succeeded in installing Adobe Acrobat
> > > Reader. Somehow the linux-ar-405.tar.gz program has defeated everything
> > > I've tried.
> >
> > GPDF is pretty nice. Just:
> >
> > urpmi gpdf
> >
> > Free, and Open Source.
>
> Unfortunately, GPDF doesn't handle some Adobe stuff very well.  One site I
> go to where I need to download forms in *.pdf has the forms formatted
> crossways across the page (in booklet form), and GPDF simply will not print
> these correctly.  The "real" Acrobat does fine with them, so it could be a
> printer setting in GPDF, but if it is I can't find it.
>
> And to answer mcoady's question, yes Acroread 5.05 installed fine on 9.2
> for me, via the tarball and the ./INSTALL script, so I can say that version
> 5 works, anyway.
>
> e

This isn't detected as a package for my urpmi. What mirror are you using?


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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat install

2004-02-13 Thread Erylon Hines
On Friday 13 February 2004 11:25 am, JoeHill wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:14:18 -0500
>
> mcoady disseminated the following:
> > Has anyone using Mandrake 9.2 succeeded in installing Adobe Acrobat
> > Reader. Somehow the linux-ar-405.tar.gz program has defeated everything
> > I've tried.
>
> GPDF is pretty nice. Just:
>
> urpmi gpdf
>
> Free, and Open Source.

Unfortunately, GPDF doesn't handle some Adobe stuff very well.  One site I go 
to where I need to download forms in *.pdf has the forms formatted crossways 
across the page (in booklet form), and GPDF simply will not print these 
correctly.  The "real" Acrobat does fine with them, so it could be a printer 
setting in GPDF, but if it is I can't find it.

And to answer mcoady's question, yes Acroread 5.05 installed fine on 9.2 for 
me, via the tarball and the ./INSTALL script, so I can say that version 5 
works, anyway.

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Re: [newbie] on distributions...

2004-02-13 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 14 February 2004 01:12, Tom Brinkman wrote:
>Do you want Mandrake D/L on 4 CD's?  (not directed at you
> HarM).  See an particpate in cooker or the Club.

I have done so in the past and found the discussions to be either over my head 
or stupifyingly low. I found no way in which I thought I could be of any use 
there, so I left. No hard feelings or grudges tho, I admire the people who do 
all the hard work there. Let them have their little whims, I just don't want 
to get in the way:)

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] on distributions...

2004-02-13 Thread lanman
On February 13, 2004 07:39 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Saturday 14 February 2004 01:11, Charlie Mahan wrote:

> > If you haven't noticed I'll apologize to a stump if warranted.

> BTW. I'm skinny and tall...does that mean I have to crouch down next
> time we argue?:-D
> Good luck,
> HarM

Either way you slice it guys, I'd pay good money to get a picture for a 
web-site I'm thinking of putting up ! Grin! LOL! Big Time! 

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Re: [newbie] Wireless Notebook Card

2004-02-13 Thread lanman
On February 13, 2004 07:23 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Saturday 14 February 2004 00:55, lanman wrote:
> > HarM; Look over your shoulder Dude! No! The other shoulder! See ?
> > That's me lining up behind you for that wireless card! If I find
> > anything, I'll let you know, and hopefully, vice-versa ?
>
> Ahah that was you, the hot breath in my neck all the time;)

Hey! I wasn't standing THAT close ! LOL!

>
> Yeah, I'm looking...all over e-bay too...they're hard to find. I've
> only found one untill now. That's a linksys that uses prism1
> chipsruns with the orrinoco driver. Still got 3 more (older)
> laptops to go, though admittedly even finding wired cards for them is
> getting hard.
> On the other hand the Sitecom version 1 cards have prism2 chips and
> so do the Belkin version 1 (version 2 and up run atmel chips) but the
> sitecom is a cardbus afaik, so that would be slot 2 :(
> If you've got PCMCIA slot 2 there's probably a USB slot too, so use
> thatthe Sitecom wl_012 works fine using the prism2_usb module
> with a few workarounds.
>
> I did get a Sweex PCI card to play ball (as well as a cardbus) but
> not more than 5.5Mb bitrate. These use rtl18080 ver2 chips...stay
> away from them if you can, only broadcom is worse.
>
> Good luck,
> HarM

HarM; Have a look at this site; 

http://www.gvc.ca

They too have the atmel chip cards in G format. None of the lists I've 
seen mention them, so I'm not sure if they'd work or not, but I 
sometimes do Linux testing for them, so I'm going to call them for a 
demo unit and see what's what. I'll keep you posted because they have a 
great deal on a G-rated router and laptop card in a bundle for under 
$180.00 Canadian. 

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Re: [newbie] on distributions...

2004-02-13 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 14 February 2004 01:11, Charlie Mahan wrote:
> If you haven't noticed I'll apologize to a stump if warranted.

I have, and FWIW your replies are always coherent, friendly, helpful and 
provoke a smile..keep on trucking:)

Good luck,
HarM
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argue?:-D
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Re: [newbie] Wireless Notebook Card

2004-02-13 Thread Marc Resnick
On Friday 13 February 2004 07:23 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Saturday 14 February 2004 00:55, lanman wrote:
> > HarM; Look over your shoulder Dude! No! The other shoulder! See ? That's
> > me lining up behind you for that wireless card! If I find anything,
> > I'll let you know, and hopefully, vice-versa ?
>
> Ahah that was you, the hot breath in my neck all the time;)
>
> Yeah, I'm looking...all over e-bay too...they're hard to find. I've only
> found one untill now. That's a linksys that uses prism1 chipsruns with
> the orrinoco driver. Still got 3 more (older) laptops to go, though
> admittedly even finding wired cards for them is getting hard.
> On the other hand the Sitecom version 1 cards have prism2 chips and so do
> the Belkin version 1 (version 2 and up run atmel chips) but the sitecom is
> a cardbus afaik, so that would be slot 2 :(
> If you've got PCMCIA slot 2 there's probably a USB slot too, so use
> thatthe Sitecom wl_012 works fine using the prism2_usb module with a
> few workarounds.
>
> I did get a Sweex PCI card to play ball (as well as a cardbus) but not more
> than 5.5Mb bitrate. These use rtl18080 ver2 chips...stay away from them
> if you can, only broadcom is worse.
>
> Good luck,
> HarM


I use an Adaptec AWN-8030. It's a Prism2 and is easy to configure if you're 
not as technologically impaired as I am.

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Re: [newbie] Getting a certain IP every time.

2004-02-13 Thread lanman
On February 13, 2004 07:20 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2004 06:56 pm, anton wrote:
> > >>Does anyone know if there's a way to make sure you get a certain
> > >> IP from the dhcp? My router won't assign IPs by MAC address, nor
> > >> will it allow me to surf with a static IP set. I have a Linksys
> > >> BEFW11S4 Router. Does anyone know a way around this?
> > >
> > > Marc; Why not set your PC to a static IP address? That would
> > > solve it permanently.
> >
> > (did he not say he can't use static?, sorry ;-)
> > Anyway, if I understand then your router is also your DHCP server?
> > Presumably you can log into it to configure it? In any case, what
> > it sounds like you need is to log into whatever is assigning you IP
> > addresses (router or other box) and set the temporary IP address
> > lease time that it gives the machines to a riduculously long time
> > period. Or do you? At varsity they have their leases run out after
> > about a week, but you can set your DHCP server (or maybe it is done
> > from the client machine) to ask if the machine wants its lease
> > renewed. If this is set to yes (or if you have a very long lease
> > time), then it should automatically reissue a lease for another
> > time period.
> > I have probably not helped you much! But at least you know it is
> > possible! Cheers
> > Anton
> >
> > -=-=-
> > ... Windows 98 - the operating system of world records!
> > 100 million sold copies, 200 million installed copies,
> > 200 billion crashes.
>
> Yes, I was thinking that. And no, Anton, I meant I can't use a static
> as long as my router had the dhcp set to on(or so I thought, read my
> other post).
>
> Thank you for your input.
>
> Marc

Marc; I'm assuming from your latest post that the router is yours and 
not being controlled by someone else? If that's the case, you have two 
options in regards to a static IP address, which , at this point seems 
to be the quickest fix to your problem.

Log into the router with a browser and configure the DHCP server to 
serve a smaller range of addresses in the subnet ie; 192.168.0.254 to 
192.168.0.200, and use a static IP address which is below that range 
for your system, 

OR,
  
Shut the router down, set a static IP address on your system, and then 
restart the router. It should detect that your IP is in use, and 
therefore will not try to lease out that IP address. You can try this 
second method if you can't get an IP address in the first place, and 
then get into the configuration system of the router to alter the DHCP 
server as mentioned above.

If we were talking about a linux server where you could customise the 
DHCP config file, I'm sure you'd have it fixed by now, but most routers 
won't let you completely modify the config file without rebuilding the 
firware ! Sigh!

Hope this helps.

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Re: [newbie] Getting a certain IP every time.

2004-02-13 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 14 February 2004 01:18, Marc Resnick wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2004 06:43 pm, lanman wrote:
> > On February 13, 2004 06:33 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
> > > Does anyone know if there's a way to make sure you get a certain IP
> > > from the dhcp? My router won't assign IPs by MAC address, nor will it
> > > allow me to surf with a static IP set. I have a Linksys BEFW11S4
> > > Router. Does anyone know a way around this?
> >
> > Marc; Why not set your PC to a static IP address? That would solve it
> > permanently.
> >
> > Lanman
>
> True, it would. But understand that I'm just 13 and my Dad's a bit sketchy
> about doing these things.
>
> But: I spoke to linksys techsupport. They said I need to put in the DNS. I
> supposed that means I should put it in my ifcfg-wlan0 file. Do you know the
> name of the setting I need to enter?
>
> Marc
 wouldn't that be:
"ifconfig wlan0 0.0.0.0" ???
I never use dhcp so I've no means to test it, sorry.

Be sure to put the right settings in "etc/wlan/wlancfg-wlan0" or 
"wlancfg-DEFAULT", though.

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[newbie] Good News

2004-02-13 Thread Greg Meyer
The nice reviews are still coming in.  Mandrake on the Shuttle XPC.

http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=491
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Re: [newbie] dev/null

2004-02-13 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 21:40:09 -0500
Todd Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 08:55:36PM -0500, Lee Wiggers wrote:
> > Okay, here I am, ticked off enough at a list to dev/null the lot
> > of'em and I don't know how.
> > 
> > Help?
> 
> Do you have procmail set up? What client are you using?
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
I keep threatening to set up a mail server, and need to do it this
year, but it's only February.

Sylpheed-Claws, latest Chas plugged in here

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Re: [newbie] Wireless Notebook Card

2004-02-13 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 14 February 2004 00:55, lanman wrote:
> HarM; Look over your shoulder Dude! No! The other shoulder! See ? That's
> me lining up behind you for that wireless card! If I find anything,
> I'll let you know, and hopefully, vice-versa ?

Ahah that was you, the hot breath in my neck all the time;)

Yeah, I'm looking...all over e-bay too...they're hard to find. I've only found 
one untill now. That's a linksys that uses prism1 chipsruns with the 
orrinoco driver. Still got 3 more (older) laptops to go, though admittedly 
even finding wired cards for them is getting hard.
On the other hand the Sitecom version 1 cards have prism2 chips and so do the 
Belkin version 1 (version 2 and up run atmel chips) but the sitecom is a 
cardbus afaik, so that would be slot 2 :(
If you've got PCMCIA slot 2 there's probably a USB slot too, so use 
thatthe Sitecom wl_012 works fine using the prism2_usb module with a few 
workarounds.

I did get a Sweex PCI card to play ball (as well as a cardbus) but not more 
than 5.5Mb bitrate. These use rtl18080 ver2 chips...stay away from them 
if you can, only broadcom is worse.

Good luck,
HarM

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Re: [newbie] dev/null

2004-02-13 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:15:36 -0800
"Lee B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lee Wiggers wrote:
> 
> >Okay, here I am, ticked off enough at a list to dev/null the lot
> >of'em and I don't know how.
> >  
> >
> 
> Look in the email header. The unsub link is in there.
> 
> 
The keyword here is "a" list.  This list is "home".

Actually it's the oo list.  I can't unsub because the sub add
doesn't exist any more but comcast is doing me a favor by forwarding
the email to me, and have since they bought attbi.

They won't stop and oo won't unsub me.

Who would ever want to unsub "newbie"?  Absurd.

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Re: [newbie] Getting a certain IP every time.

2004-02-13 Thread Marc Resnick
On Friday 13 February 2004 06:56 pm, anton wrote:
> >>Does anyone know if there's a way to make sure you get a certain IP
> >>from the dhcp? My router won't assign IPs by MAC address, nor will it
> >>allow me to surf with a static IP set. I have a Linksys BEFW11S4
> >>Router. Does anyone know a way around this?
> >
> > Marc; Why not set your PC to a static IP address? That would solve it
> > permanently.
>
> (did he not say he can't use static?, sorry ;-)
> Anyway, if I understand then your router is also your DHCP server?
> Presumably you can log into it to configure it? In any case, what it
> sounds like you need is to log into whatever is assigning you IP
> addresses (router or other box) and set the temporary IP address lease
> time that it gives the machines to a riduculously long time period. Or
> do you? At varsity they have their leases run out after about a week,
> but you can set your DHCP server (or maybe it is done from the client
> machine) to ask if the machine wants its lease renewed. If this is set
> to yes (or if you have a very long lease time), then it should
> automatically reissue a lease for another time period.
> I have probably not helped you much! But at least you know it is possible!
> Cheers
> Anton
>
> -=-=-
> ... Windows 98 - the operating system of world records!
> 100 million sold copies, 200 million installed copies,
> 200 billion crashes.


Yes, I was thinking that. And no, Anton, I meant I can't use a static as long 
as my router had the dhcp set to on(or so I thought, read my other post).

Thank you for your input.

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Re: [newbie] Getting a certain IP every time.

2004-02-13 Thread Marc Resnick
On Friday 13 February 2004 06:43 pm, lanman wrote:
> On February 13, 2004 06:33 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
> > Does anyone know if there's a way to make sure you get a certain IP
> > from the dhcp? My router won't assign IPs by MAC address, nor will it
> > allow me to surf with a static IP set. I have a Linksys BEFW11S4
> > Router. Does anyone know a way around this?
>
> Marc; Why not set your PC to a static IP address? That would solve it
> permanently.
>
> Lanman


True, it would. But understand that I'm just 13 and my Dad's a bit sketchy 
about doing these things.

But: I spoke to linksys techsupport. They said I need to put in the DNS. I 
supposed that means I should put it in my ifcfg-wlan0 file. Do you know the 
name of the setting I need to enter?

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Re: [newbie] on distributions...

2004-02-13 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Friday 13 February 2004 4:25 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2004 19:32, Charlie Mahan wrote:
> > This pissing contest over mc vs emacs vs vi vs what the hell ever is
> > never going to go away, nor does it seem that it will ever change the
> > decision of the person in charge of deciding what is included in the
> > disks.

The referenced pissing contest is the one that continually springs to life on 
the cooker mailing list HarM. 

After my re-reading of my message it does seem that the statement was directed 
at your comments; but it isn't. It's directed at those that (like myself) 
read every Mandrake list available within time constraints; then when they 
"lose an argument" they pop over to another list looking (apparently) for 
someone to agree with them.

> Hey Charlie, I never thought this was a pissing contest, though admittedly
> I am/was pissed of at the omittance (is this double mm or double
> tt?spellchecker doesn't say) of mc.

I'm not sure...admittedly...admitedly (TWO Ts HarM)

It may be all those languagge files you have hidden in there. In your head I 
mean. 

> Personally, I've never made a point of vi or emacs, in that I've never used
> emacs and sort of look up to those that are able to use it:)

I try to avoid anything that isn't at the level of subconscious competence 
myself. That leaves out vi for me. Don't look up to me, it was self defence, 
enlightened self interest...some damn thing.

Besides I'm short and fat. (-;

> What I have noticed is that, at  PC Fairs or LUG meetings where there are
> "guru's" installing Debian , Slackware or LXFS on PC's the first you thing
> you get to see after initial installation is the "blue" mc screen:)
> Unless you've got the whole linux file tree inside your head you need an
> appp like' mc. I use "vi" in "init 1" for instance because I usually know
> exactly which files I have to edit (and otherwise  is my best friend)
> and where they are, on a new system I prefer mc for overviewit's as
> simple as that. You'd be surprised how distribs can differ in their file
> trees despite the efforts to standardize.

Doesn't surprise me at all. I'll stick with Mandrake personally, but I'll 
install or help to install anything. Almost. 

For a hint as to what "Almost" means see the Fortune appended to my signature. 
Random indeed

 This machine is _bent!_

> Knoppix uses "links" to navigate the file trees, for instance but that has
> the drawback that you can't edit the files in the same app.
>
> BTW my friend, you are really going to have to put in more effort to get me
> pissed off:-D
>
> Good luck,
> HarM

I wouldn't attempt to piss anyone off HarM. Especially not friends.

If you haven't noticed I'll apologize to a stump if warranted.

Warm regards;
Charlie
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[newbie] Spamassasin questions

2004-02-13 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Hmm, I use Kmail and was following another thread where Spamassassin was 
detailed (Derek J. I believe).

I followed it as best as I could, but I've got a couple of questions.

Speed. Wow. It slows my email download from cable speeds to dial up speeds.
I'm talking 3-5 times longer here. Any way to speed that up?

After I quit Kmail, spamd is still running. Is there something to adjust so 
that it dies when not it in use? It slows some games like UT2004demo way 
down. Sure, I can kill it but...

Training. I was wondering how you get it to filter mail that its not filtering 
currently? I'm still getting those "unknown" messages just every now and 
then. I saved the msg as "unknown.txt" then I used:

sa-learn --spam --file uknown.txt

It reported positively, no errors, but I've gotten that same kind of message 
on 3 subsequent Kmail sessions since then.

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Re: [newbie] Preparing (hopefully) to install

2004-02-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 13 February 2004 16:54, Charlie Mahan wrote:
lots of good advice

One thing I would add - don't panic.  Almost anything you select or 
don't select can be reversed later.  Enjoy!

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Re: [newbie] [OT] The BBC and Linux.

2004-02-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 13 February 2004 16:29, robin wrote:
>
> It varies from programme to programme.  Their IT programme, "Click
> Online", tends to give Linux and OSS a good press, and far more
> coverage than you'd expect, given that it's designed very much with
> computer newbies in mind (a typical line might be "So what is ADSL,
> and why is it better than a normal modem?").  In fact, when they
> did a series on building a computer from parts (presumably with the
> slightly less newbie audience in mind), Linux was recommended for
> the OS. They've also done features on non-IE browsers, with Opera
> and Mozilla getting good press.
>
> It's just a matter of who is praparing and presenting the programme
> in question. I know one the guys behind the scenes of Click Online
> is a veteran Windows-hater (he's a Mac lover, but I don't believe
> in prejudice against people's sexual preferences). He used to
> appear on .TV's "Chips With Everything" answering questions like
> "How can I use my Windows 98 computer as a router?" with answers
> like "For that, you need a real Operating System."
>
That sounds like a program actually worth watching - and that's a rare 
beast!  I wonder when it's on?

> Incidentally, the penguin has landed in Turkey. We've just started
> getting the Turkish version of Tech TV, and they've started a
> programme called "Penguin Diary" (or rather, the equivalent in
> Turkish, which I can't type in ASCII characters!).
>
Good news indeed

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Re: [newbie] [OT] The BBC and Linux.

2004-02-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 13 February 2004 16:37, lanman wrote:
>
> Not to be a [EMAIL PROTECTED] disturber ( yeah, Right! ) but the correspondent
> ( Gillean Lacey-Solymar ) giving us this "enlightened" perspective
> on the BBC show has an email address! Go figure! I accidentally put
> it right here - "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  in case someone wanted
> to contact her. Imagine that! She's a graduate of Oxford! Humph!
> You'd think she'd know how to do her homework by now!
>
Lanman, I trust you completely, and did no checks, so you'd better be 
right, 'cos I used that address.  This is what I said:


There has been much talk today on the mailing list 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] about the content of this program.  I did 
not see the program myself, as I never watch daytime television.  I 
am concerned, however, that if a fraction of the quotes I have read 
are correct this program was full of errors and misinformation.

There is a growing army of Linux users around the world, and a growing 
movement that can only be called Community, in which people of all 
ages and skills, and from all over the world, work together and help 
each other sort problems.  The result is a system that is not only 
much more secure than anything that can be achieved using *any* 
version of Windows, but the satisfaction of having a system that does 
what the user wants, not what the software company wants them to do.

If you are truly interested in the subject, I would be pleased to send 
you a set of Mandrake Linux disks - free of charge, and entirely 
legal, note - so that you can see for yourself just how easy it is to 
install Linux on a modern computer.


The more people that make the point, the better.  The truth is that 
most journalists are entirely ignorant, and go with the flow.  It's 
time to make waves.

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Re: [newbie] [OT] The BBC and Linux.

2004-02-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 13 February 2004 13:19, Keith Powell wrote:
> I have just been watching a daily Monday-Friday BBC Television
> business/consumer program called "Working Lunch".
>
> In it, there was an item about Microsoft's Windows source code
> being on the Internet. During the item, which concentrated on how
> this would affect we computer users, the following statements were
> made:
>
> "You can't just go out on the High Street and buy a different
> Operating system".
>
> "There are others, but Windows is the best".
>
> After dwelling on Windows and briefly mentioning Mac, their
> "Consumer Affairs Correspondant" said, "There is a third system
> called Linux. However it is very complicated and you have to be a
> computer expert to be able to use it. I certainly couldn't use it"
>
> With a large influential company (the BBC) making such
> pro-Microsoft and anti-Linux statements such as this, we have quite
> an opposition to overcome.
>
> It's no good writing to them and complaining, as they won't want to
> know.
>
> I sign myself "A disgusted viewer".
>
> Keith.

The last time they did something like this I found a place on the web 
pages where you could start discussion threads about the program.  If 
you manage to get a complaint in by that route let us know, so that 
we can back you up.

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Re: [newbie] StarDict

2004-02-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 13 February 2004 17:28, ronald wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:27:59 +
>
> Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hmm - that's 1.31-4, and the sourceforge one is 2.4.2.  Now I've
> > looked at it I do remember seeing it on the available software
> > list, but it said 'English to Chinese dictionary' so I looked no
> > further.
>
> Mine is 2.2.1 running MDK 9.2
>
> ronald

Ah, yes - I checked on *this* box - 9.1.  Sorry

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Re: [newbie] Preparing (hopefully) to install (Compaq laptop, anybody?)

2004-02-13 Thread marc resnick
On Friday 13 February 2004 03:29 pm, Chuck Mattsen wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:52:59 -0700
> Charlie Mahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Charlie> I'll be totally out of my depth here in a minute. I've only
> installed recent Charlie> Mandrake releases (9.1, 9.2, cooker) on Toshiba
> and IBM laptops. What model Charlie> is yours?
>
> Nevertheless, your input is appreciated.
>
> I've got to put the install aside and get to work here, but will check back
> again this evening.  FWIW, it's a Compaq 2175us, WinXP Pro, 40GB drive
> (NTFS), 512MB, yadda, yadda, yadda.
>
> Charlie> Also, have you read this:
> Charlie>
> Charlie> http://www.geocities.com/thaweesakb/linux.html
>
> I took a /very/ brief look at it the other day, but will do so again
> later.  Thx.
>
> Charlie> I'm not liking the chance of being able to do anything from
> the Windows side.
>
> Well, just for kicks I downloaded a demo copy of Partition Magic (it
> won't actually /do/ the repartitioning, but walks through the steps
> leading up to the actual partition in the demo version.  It didn't
> seem to balk at it at all in its demo mode.
>
> Charlie> The BIOS (or a large part of it) lives on that second
> "hidden" partition with all of the "Restore" stuff.
>
> I'm /assuming/ that may have been what was contained in the "Extended
> Partition" that the demo walk-through automatically set up between the
> proposed 1st (XP) partition and the theoretical Linux partition I wanted to
> set up.
>
> Charlie> I don't know what you need to do next, and I'm sorry I'm unable to
> help. Maybe Charlie> somebody with a clue will read this and give you a
> hand. That's why I added Charlie> to the subject line.
>
> I'm sure it's doable ... I'm just not sure my knowledge is up to the
> task, either in Linux or XP ... I've been more of a Win98se guy for
> umpteen years (well, okay, 4-5) now, so I'm very hesitant to muck with
> things.
>
> Hopefully, someone (with infinite patience) can assist me in a
> walkthrough of whatever's necessary.
>
> Thx again.


I recently installed Mandrake on a 2190US...
No, it won't resize the Windows Partition they made, and you'll need a 3rd 
party program. Here's what I suggest. Get Partition magic. Resize the Windows 
Partition. Then use the Linux install to auto allocate, and it'll create the 
three partitions you need. If you don't want to buy 
PM...well..um...definitely don't get an illegal copy...;-)

Mandrake will configure the boot and all that stuff. After that, just delete 
your Windows partition, and everything will be just fine. =)

Marc


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Re: [newbie] Preparing (hopefully) to install (Compaq laptop, anybody?)

2004-02-13 Thread Chuck Mattsen
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:52:59 -0700
Charlie Mahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Charlie> I'll be totally out of my depth here in a minute. I've only installed recent 
Charlie> Mandrake releases (9.1, 9.2, cooker) on Toshiba and IBM laptops. What model 
Charlie> is yours? 

Nevertheless, your input is appreciated.

I've got to put the install aside and get to work here, but will check back again this 
evening.  FWIW, it's a Compaq 2175us, WinXP Pro, 40GB
drive (NTFS), 512MB, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Charlie> Also, have you read this:
Charlie> 
Charlie> http://www.geocities.com/thaweesakb/linux.html

I took a /very/ brief look at it the other day, but will do so again
later.  Thx.

Charlie> I'm not liking the chance of being able to do anything from
the Windows side. 

Well, just for kicks I downloaded a demo copy of Partition Magic (it
won't actually /do/ the repartitioning, but walks through the steps
leading up to the actual partition in the demo version.  It didn't
seem to balk at it at all in its demo mode.

Charlie> The BIOS (or a large part of it) lives on that second
"hidden" partition with all of the "Restore" stuff.

I'm /assuming/ that may have been what was contained in the "Extended
Partition" that the demo walk-through automatically set up between the proposed 1st 
(XP) partition and the theoretical Linux partition I
wanted to set up.

Charlie> I don't know what you need to do next, and I'm sorry I'm unable to help. 
Maybe 
Charlie> somebody with a clue will read this and give you a hand. That's why I added 
Charlie> to the subject line.

I'm sure it's doable ... I'm just not sure my knowledge is up to the
task, either in Linux or XP ... I've been more of a Win98se guy for
umpteen years (well, okay, 4-5) now, so I'm very hesitant to muck with things.

Hopefully, someone (with infinite patience) can assist me in a
walkthrough of whatever's necessary.

Thx again.
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Re: [newbie] LCP timeout sending Config-Requests

2004-02-13 Thread Paul Smith
John Rye wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 17:13:16 +
Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear All

I have everything configured on my computer to connect to the Internet
through Mandrake 9.2. However, I always get the following message (in
/var/log/messages):
LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests

The username/password are not authenticated. Could somebody here
please help me?


first read the pppd man page ('man pppd' in a terminal) then edit
/etc/ppp/options to reflect the following, it should(tm) solve the LCP
timeouts.
lock
debug
noauth
defaultroute
lcp-max-configure 45
ipcp-accept-local
ipcp-accept-remote
idle 600
cheers

John (nz)
John,

Thanks! I did as you suggest, but no progress, unfortunately. Maybe, I 
should buy a Ethernet modem...

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Dual-booting

2004-02-13 Thread piagetblix
You should install Windows XP first. Lilo will install the boot loader on the Master 
Boot Record.  If you install Linux and then Windows, Xp will simply write over the MBR 
where lilo installed itself.
hth
> 
> From: "Eric Geater 1/27/03" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2004/02/13 Fri PM 01:35:35 EST
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [newbie] Dual-booting
> 
> Oh, this isn't a Mandrake question TOO much, though I am using Mandrake.
> 
> On a new unpartitioned hard drive that I want to dual-boot between XP
> and 'Drake, which should I install first?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Eric 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] typist-2.6.2-2mdk.i586.rpm wont run

2004-02-13 Thread Aron Smith
On Friday 13 February 2004 09:49 am, Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 18:17, Marc wrote:
> >   I installed typist-2.6.2-2mdk.i586.rpm  Everything seemed to install
> > allright but I cant find it on on any menu and if I try to start it from
> > console I get the message command not found.
> >   Does anyone have a idea of how to fix this?
> >
> >TIA
> > Marc
>
>  Hi Marc,
>
> As I've been looking for a typing tutor, I checked it out.
>
> Although the title is 'typist' it runs as 'gtypist' (GNU typist) from a
> terminal.  Documentation at:
>  http://www.gnu.org/software/gtypist/doc/gtypist.html
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Paul M
If  you are running 9.2 look under applications ->edutainment-> Ktouch
nice typing tutor program


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Re: [newbie] User can't switch off...but Root can!

2004-02-13 Thread robin
Margot wrote:
robin wrote:

Margot wrote:

I must have done something really stupid, but I don't know what...!

Up until a couple of weeks ago, I used to be able to click on the 
Logout button, get a choice of 3 options (Login as different user; 
Turn off computer; Restart computer) select 'Turn off computer', and 
everything would gradually shut down and eventually the power would 
switch off.

This doesn't happen any more! When I select 'Turn off computer' I get 
a black screen with a white mouse pointer arrow in the middle, 
keyboard and mouse don't work, and nothing shuts down - I have to 
switch off the power switch button. When I switch on next day, system 
complains that it has shut down 'uncleanly'.

Only way I've found to get a clean shutdown now is to open a 
terminal, su to root (doesn't work as user!), and do 'shutdown -h -t 
10 now'.

What have I done? How do I fix it?

Seems ridiculous that I have to be root to shut down the computer! Is 
this some sort of permissions problem?


Only allowing root to be able to shut down the computer goes way back 
to the early days of Unix, where you didn't want ordinary users to be 
able to shut down or reboot terminals. Consequently, AFAIK it is still 
the default on Unix-type systems.

Make sure that auto-login is off in MCC, then enable it in KDE (System 
-> Login Manager, and click Administrator Mode). That might do the 
trick.  Occasionally some other system change will reset it, which 
might be the cause of your problem (for example, I had to go back and 
put in the settings I wanted after updating KDE).

Sir Robin

Thanks for the suggestion Robin. Unfortunately I don't have a 'Login 
Manager' option on the System section (or anywhere else) on my KDE menu. 
Can you (or some other kind person) tell me what the package is called, 
so I can call it up from a terminal?

Don't go through the menu, go to the KDE Control Center (which normally 
appears on the menu as "Configure your desktop"). Sorry, I should have 
made that clear.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] Preparing (hopefully) to install (Compaq laptop, anybody?)

2004-02-13 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Friday 13 February 2004 11:21 am, Chuck Mattsen wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:54:40 -0700

> -snip->8
> > You'll be asked about preferences, using free space entire drive
> > etc., select free space, then allow the installer to do the work
> > for you. It will resize the partitions and set up the partition
> > table, ...
>
> Once I get to the partitioning portion of the install, I consistently
> get "Partitioning failed. ntfsresize failed," and "Accounting clusters ...
> cluster accounting failed."

God I hate Compaq! Laptops, desktops, whatever.

I'll be totally out of my depth here in a minute. I've only installed recent 
Mandrake releases (9.1, 9.2, cooker) on Toshiba and IBM laptops. What model 
is yours? Also, have you read this:

http://www.geocities.com/thaweesakb/linux.html

In addition to the web site owner's experiences there are some links at the 
bottom of the page.

> So, I'm pretty much stuck.  Am I going to have to partition somehow
> from the Windows side of things first?  I was hoping to have the
> install do it's "automagically" thing, but that doesn't appear to be
> the case for me, unless I'm missing something pretty basic here.

I'm not liking the chance of being able to do anything from the Windows side. 
Do you remember when Compaq was supposedly an acronym for 
"COMP(atibility)A(nd)Q(uality)?" It seems now that it's a synonym for cheaply 
made proprietary crap. 

The BIOS (or a large part of it) lives on that second "hidden" partition with 
all of the "Restore" stuff.

I don't know what you need to do next, and I'm sorry I'm unable to help. Maybe 
somebody with a clue will read this and give you a hand. That's why I added 
to the subject line.

> Any thoughts on where to go next?  I get kind of lost when trying to
> research /anything/ Linux, as most of the info seems to assume the
> user already has a lot more knowledge than I obviously do.

Yeah, ignore me. Sign up for the expert list and try asking there, or hope 
that a better helper than me shows up.

> TIA

Sorry about that Chuck. I wish you luck.

Charlie
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11:38:23 up 1 day, 1:00, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.20, 0.27
BOFH excuse #178:

short leg on process table
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Re: [newbie] How to go about creating a new partition.

2004-02-13 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Friday 13 February 2004 10:40 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > 
> > I still don't know why anyone buys proprietary stuff to do
> > something that can be done with free open source tools.
> >
> > Has anybody ever heard of parted?
> >
> > http://www.linuxmigration.com/quickref/install/disk.html
> >
> > Regards;
> > Charlie
>
>Exactly.
>
>   http://www.sysresccd.org/
>
> "Here are the main system tools:
>
> GNU Parted is the best tool for editing your disk partitions under
> linux
> QtParted is a Partition Magic clone for Linux.
>  
> Partimage is a Ghost/Drive-image clone for Linux
> File systems tools (e2fsprogs, reiserfsprogs, xfsprogs, jfsutils,
> ntfsprogs, dosfstools): they allow you to format, resize, debug
> an existing partition of your hard disk
> Sfdisk allows you to backup and restore your partition table"

Thanks Tom. I'm sure you've posted that message, or one close to it, on this 
list before. But I had misplaced it.

Now I have it again. 

Regards;
Charlie
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Re: [newbie] User can't switch off...but Root can!

2004-02-13 Thread Aron Smith
On Friday 13 February 2004 11:10 am, Margot wrote:
> robin wrote:
> > Margot wrote:
> >> I must have done something really stupid, but I don't know what...!
> >>
> >> Up until a couple of weeks ago, I used to be able to click on the
> >> Logout button, get a choice of 3 options (Login as different user;
> >> Turn off computer; Restart computer) select 'Turn off computer', and
> >> everything would gradually shut down and eventually the power would
> >> switch off.
> >>
> >> This doesn't happen any more! When I select 'Turn off computer' I get
> >> a black screen with a white mouse pointer arrow in the middle,
> >> keyboard and mouse don't work, and nothing shuts down - I have to
> >> switch off the power switch button. When I switch on next day, system
> >> complains that it has shut down 'uncleanly'.
> >>
> >> Only way I've found to get a clean shutdown now is to open a terminal,
> >> su to root (doesn't work as user!), and do 'shutdown -h -t 10 now'.
> >>
> >> What have I done? How do I fix it?
> >>
> >> Seems ridiculous that I have to be root to shut down the computer! Is
> >> this some sort of permissions problem?
> >
> > Only allowing root to be able to shut down the computer goes way back to
> > the early days of Unix, where you didn't want ordinary users to be able
> > to shut down or reboot terminals. Consequently, AFAIK it is still the
> > default on Unix-type systems.
> >
> > Make sure that auto-login is off in MCC, then enable it in KDE (System
> > -> Login Manager, and click Administrator Mode). That might do the
> > trick.  Occasionally some other system change will reset it, which might
> > be the cause of your problem (for example, I had to go back and put in
> > the settings I wanted after updating KDE).
> >
> > Sir Robin
>
> Thanks for the suggestion Robin. Unfortunately I don't have a 'Login
> Manager' option on the System section (or anywhere else) on my KDE menu.
> Can you (or some other kind person) tell me what the package is called,
> so I can call it up from a terminal?
>
> Margot
love did you try  K->configure your computer(MCC)-->system_>boot uncheck 
autologon


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Re: [newbie] Restoring Gui login Mandrake9.2

2004-02-13 Thread robin
mcoady wrote:
During the install I mistakenly clicked on the automatic login feature 
which takes me directly into KDE. Is there a file I could edit that 
would return the choice of window managers at bootup?

You don't need to edit the file, you can just go to the Mandrake Control 
Center and go to DrakBoot (or type "drakboot" in a console as root).

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] Dual-booting

2004-02-13 Thread Hoyt Bailey

- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Geater 1/27/03" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 12:35
Subject: [newbie] Dual-booting


> Oh, this isn't a Mandrake question TOO much, though I am using Mandrake.
>
> On a new unpartitioned hard drive that I want to dual-boot between XP
> and 'Drake, which should I install first?
>
> Thanks
>
XP is easier to install first.  Set up the partion to 25GB and go.  You can
use that partion later when you decide to kill windows because its too much
trouble.
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Re: [newbie] Dual-booting

2004-02-13 Thread Johan
Hi,
If at all possible always the windows OS first...then linux...then the linux 
bootloader install correctly and you will be able to boot both on choice.
since allready using MDK you will be familiar with the bootloader etc.
Johan
***

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:35:35 -0600
"Eric Geater 1/27/03" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oh, this isn't a Mandrake question TOO much, though I am using Mandrake.
> 
> On a new unpartitioned hard drive that I want to dual-boot between XP
> and 'Drake, which should I install first?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Eric 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat install

2004-02-13 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:14:18 -0500
mcoady disseminated the following:

> Has anyone using Mandrake 9.2 succeeded in installing Adobe Acrobat 
> Reader. Somehow the linux-ar-405.tar.gz program has defeated everything 
> I've tried.

GPDF is pretty nice. Just:

urpmi gpdf

Free, and Open Source.

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Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org
+++
14:24:05 up 8 days, 2:11, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.08, 0.04
+++
Linux 2.4.22-21mdk i686
+++
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consistently rewarded for telling their superiors pleasant lies than for telling
the truth."-- The SNAFU Principle

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[newbie] Drivers, NIC, network...

2004-02-13 Thread piagetblix
Hello, I am a returning Linux user who is quite rusty and in need of help with the 
following: Installing the driver for my nvidia NIC on a shuttle an35Ultra nforce2 mobo 
and then configuring the network setup on my Motorola cable modem that is attached via 
ethernet.  I downloaded the rpm for mandrake 9.1 from nvidias site and did a rpm -ivh. 
 I am using 9.2. It seemed to install, but now what, still no net.  If someone could 
walk me through it would be greatly appreciated!!


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Re: [newbie] This is why I love this OS...

2004-02-13 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 09:39, JoeHill wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 06:35:50 -0200
> Josenildo Marques disseminated the following:
> 
> > Is it down or something ? I can't see anything :-(
> > I'll try later on...
> 
> I have you to thank for the great Che outline! I been lookin' fer that fer
> eons...

My pleasure !
It's funny but all I could see was the red star. Then I loaded it up
into the Gimp and, with the curves tool, I highlighted the image and
there it was !

Well, it's good to see people having fun...Linux is funtastic 

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Re: [newbie] User can't switch off...but Root can!

2004-02-13 Thread Margot
robin wrote:
Margot wrote:

I must have done something really stupid, but I don't know what...!

Up until a couple of weeks ago, I used to be able to click on the 
Logout button, get a choice of 3 options (Login as different user; 
Turn off computer; Restart computer) select 'Turn off computer', and 
everything would gradually shut down and eventually the power would 
switch off.

This doesn't happen any more! When I select 'Turn off computer' I get 
a black screen with a white mouse pointer arrow in the middle, 
keyboard and mouse don't work, and nothing shuts down - I have to 
switch off the power switch button. When I switch on next day, system 
complains that it has shut down 'uncleanly'.

Only way I've found to get a clean shutdown now is to open a terminal, 
su to root (doesn't work as user!), and do 'shutdown -h -t 10 now'.

What have I done? How do I fix it?

Seems ridiculous that I have to be root to shut down the computer! Is 
this some sort of permissions problem?


Only allowing root to be able to shut down the computer goes way back to 
the early days of Unix, where you didn't want ordinary users to be able 
to shut down or reboot terminals. Consequently, AFAIK it is still the 
default on Unix-type systems.

Make sure that auto-login is off in MCC, then enable it in KDE (System 
-> Login Manager, and click Administrator Mode). That might do the 
trick.  Occasionally some other system change will reset it, which might 
be the cause of your problem (for example, I had to go back and put in 
the settings I wanted after updating KDE).

Sir Robin

Thanks for the suggestion Robin. Unfortunately I don't have a 'Login 
Manager' option on the System section (or anywhere else) on my KDE menu. 
Can you (or some other kind person) tell me what the package is called, 
so I can call it up from a terminal?

Margot

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[newbie] KDE 3.2 kde control center emptie.

2004-02-13 Thread Dan Gordon
After installing kde 3.2 when i open up kde control center the left hand
side panel where all the settings categories should be is empty. If i
navigate the start menu I can run all the different sections that are
normally in there. When i run kcontrol from cli i get this error.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mister]$ kcontrol kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu
group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/

Anyone know what i might do to fix this ?
TIA

Regards,
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[newbie] Restoring Gui login Mandrake9.2

2004-02-13 Thread mcoady
During the install I mistakenly clicked on the automatic login feature 
which takes me directly into KDE. Is there a file I could edit that 
would return the choice of window managers at bootup?

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[newbie] Wireless Notebook Card

2004-02-13 Thread Mike Begin








Can anyone recommend a good wireless notebook card that has
Linux support/drivers (Mandrake 9.2.1)?

 

Thanks,

Mike

 

 

 








[newbie] Dual-booting

2004-02-13 Thread Eric Geater 1/27/03
Oh, this isn't a Mandrake question TOO much, though I am using Mandrake.

On a new unpartitioned hard drive that I want to dual-boot between XP
and 'Drake, which should I install first?

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] on distributions...

2004-02-13 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Friday 13 February 2004 10:34 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2004 17:00, Charlie Mahan wrote:
> > Space limitations and support issues don't you know.
>
> No, I don't i.M.O. there's lots than can be kicked in favour of mc.
> It used always be there and installed by default too. Since 9.2 that
> changed all of a sudden in Mandrake. No other self respecting distro does
> that!
>
> Like I said: Linux without mc is a tux w.o. underwear.scratchie no
> matter how good it looks!
>
> Good luck,
> HarM

It's been a long time since I used midnight commander. 

This pissing contest over mc vs emacs vs vi vs what the hell ever is never 
going to go away, nor does it seem that it will ever change the decision of 
the person in charge of deciding what is included in the disks.

I personally think there are a lot more important issues than what command 
line editors are default.

Warm regards;
Charlie
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Re: [newbie] Preparing (hopefully) to install

2004-02-13 Thread Chuck Mattsen
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:54:40 -0700
Charlie Mahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Charlie> You'll be asked about preferences, using free space entire drive etc., select 
Charlie> free space, then allow the installer to do the work for you. It will resize 
Charlie> the partitions and set up the partition table, ...

Once I get to the partitioning portion of the install, I consistently
get "Partitioning failed. ntfsresize failed," and "Accounting clusters ... cluster 
accounting failed."

So, I'm pretty much stuck.  Am I going to have to partition somehow
from the Windows side of things first?  I was hoping to have the
install do it's "automagically" thing, but that doesn't appear to be
the case for me, unless I'm missing something pretty basic here.

Any thoughts on where to go next?  I get kind of lost when trying to
research /anything/ Linux, as most of the info seems to assume the
user already has a lot more knowledge than I obviously do.

TIA

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Re: [newbie] This is why I love this OS...

2004-02-13 Thread Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf

>
> Slackware in text mode makes a wonderful server on a 386
> right up to 9.1!
Slackware 9.1 runs on 486 and higher, but 9.0 and back will 
rn on a 386. If you needan install helper I wrote a 
complete tutorial on installing it step by step.

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Re: [newbie] typist-2.6.2-2mdk.i586.rpm wont run

2004-02-13 Thread Paul
On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 18:17, Marc wrote:
>   I installed typist-2.6.2-2mdk.i586.rpm  Everything seemed to install 
> allright but I cant find it on on any menu and if I try to start it from 
> console I get the message command not found.
>   Does anyone have a idea of how to fix this?
> 
>TIA
> Marc
> 
> 
 Hi Marc, 

As I've been looking for a typing tutor, I checked it out.

Although the title is 'typist' it runs as 'gtypist' (GNU typist) from a
terminal.  Documentation at:
 http://www.gnu.org/software/gtypist/doc/gtypist.html

Hope this helps,

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Re: [newbie] How to go about creating a new partition.

2004-02-13 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Friday 13 February 2004 10:28 am, Charlie Mahan wrote:

> Sunday 13 October 2002 7:11 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> 
>
> > Well if you do screw up don't panic, it's all recoverable ,
> > just don't do anything to mess your windblows OS.
> > If you do have trouble just ask again here on this list.
> > Plenty of people with loads of experience to help you. What I
> > have described is my way, I'm not presumptious enough to say
> > it's the only way, but it's never failed me, and I've used
> > most of them.
> >
> > John

> I still don't know why anyone buys proprietary stuff to do
> something that can be done with free open source tools.
>
> Has anybody ever heard of parted?
>
> http://www.linuxmigration.com/quickref/install/disk.html
>
> Regards;
> Charlie

   Exactly.

  http://www.sysresccd.org/

"Here are the main system tools:

GNU Parted is the best tool for editing your disk partitions under 
linux
QtParted is a Partition Magic clone for Linux.
 
Partimage is a Ghost/Drive-image clone for Linux
File systems tools (e2fsprogs, reiserfsprogs, xfsprogs, jfsutils, 
ntfsprogs, dosfstools): they allow you to format, resize, debug 
an existing partition of your hard disk
Sfdisk allows you to backup and restore your partition table"
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[newbie] no hdlists found error and now CD_R drive not installed !

2004-02-13 Thread Stéphane Pinel
Hello,

Just bought Mandrake Linux PowerPack 9.2. 15 seconds after starting 
Installer, I got
an "no hdlists found error" error while partitionning...The 
installation process couldn't
continue.

Then 15 seconds later, the CD-ROM drive was said as "not installed" in 
bios...then it
doen't seems to work anymore...

For my first exeprience with Mandrake: on PC is out

Any help will be much appreciated...

Regards.

Stéphane

DELL DIMENSION 4300
RAM (Mo) : 256
CPU : PENTIUM IV - 1,6 GHZ
Connection : ADSL 1024 Kbps
Hard disk : Maxto - 37 Go
CD / DVD ROM : DVD-R
Video card : nVidia GeForce 3 - 64 Mo
Sound card : Creative Labs SoundBlaster Liv
Network : 10/100 MB 

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Re: [newbie] on distributions...

2004-02-13 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 13 February 2004 17:00, Charlie Mahan wrote:
> Space limitations and support issues don't you know.

No, I don't i.M.O. there's lots than can be kicked in favour of mc.
It used always be there and installed by default too. Since 9.2 that changed 
all of a sudden in Mandrake. No other self respecting distro does that!

Like I said: Linux without mc is a tux w.o. underwear.scratchie no matter 
how good it looks!

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] StarDict

2004-02-13 Thread ronald
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:27:59 +
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hmm - that's 1.31-4, and the sourceforge one is 2.4.2.  Now I've 
> looked at it I do remember seeing it on the available software list, 
> but it said 'English to Chinese dictionary' so I looked no further.

Mine is 2.2.1 running MDK 9.2

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Re: [newbie] Bios upgrades

2004-02-13 Thread John Richard Smith
Tom Brinkman wrote:

On Sunday 13 October 2002 07:34 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Bios upgrades
=
   

 Well good John.  Now next time you buy a motherboard, check around for one that has a second bios backup already onboard and doesn't need a DOS boot floppy, or Windoze runnin, to flash the bios. If for any reason the flash fails, or the bios is corrupted (Winsux virus?), the board automatically boots from the backup bios chip. Many of the newer boards are movin to this. Some have had it for years.

Have you any particular makes in mind.
My mobo is now 2 years old, did it have this  bios backup then ?
I don't remember it being the case, though it may well of been.
 It's always a good idea to check your motherboard's web page for bios updates. Usually updated for about the first 18 months the board is on the market.  It's not always neccessary to update tho. EG, my board (also a dual bios, no boot floppy needed board) has a new bios version available, but the changelog shows it's to fix a problem with hardware I don't have. So it's helpful to read the changelog before updating.
 

 

I quite agree.
Only inexperience that held me back.
Not from now on though.
John



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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat install

2004-02-13 Thread Paul
On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 07:14, mcoady wrote:
> Has anyone using Mandrake 9.2 succeeded in installing Adobe Acrobat 
> Reader. Somehow the linux-ar-405.tar.gz program has defeated everything 
> I've tried.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 

If you're a member there's an RPM in the Club commercial downloads
section.

If you're not, there's a newer version at the adobe site:
1. open terminal & type 'tar -zxvf linux-508.tar.gz'
2. type ./INSTALL
3. type 'accept'
4. type 'y' to questions

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Re: [newbie] How to go about creating a new partition.

2004-02-13 Thread Johan
Because everybody do have a free choice to decide what to use/buy/get for free...we 
are lucky that this choice do exist...maybe not always the correct one but still it 
there :-)
Johan
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:28:34 -0700
Charlie Mahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Sunday 13 October 2002 7:11 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> 
> > Well if you do screw up don't panic, it's all recoverable , just don't
> > do anything to mess your windblows OS.
> > If you do have trouble just ask again here on this list. Plenty of
> > people with loads of experience to help you. What I have described is my
> > way, I'm not presumptious enough to say it's the only way, but it's
> > never failed me, and I've used most of them.
> >
> > John
> 
> I still don't know why anyone buys proprietary stuff to do something that can 
> be done with free open source tools. 
> 
> Has anybody ever heard of parted?
> 
> http://www.linuxmigration.com/quickref/install/disk.html
> 
> Regards;
> Charlie
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> acts of passion... acts of... ineptitude.
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Re: [newbie] concatening pdf file

2004-02-13 Thread Christoph Eckert
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Am Freitag, 13. Februar 2004 11:56 schrieb Olivier Esser:

> Anyone does know a tool which allow to concatenate two pdf
> files into a single file?

Search sourceforge and you'll find such tools.

I have used such a tool some months before, but I do not 
remember the name, sorry.


Gruß / regards


ce

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RE: [newbie] Solved: No sound with onboard VIA VT8233 sound card

2004-02-13 Thread Philip J Scott


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anne Wilson
Sent: 10 February 2004 10:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Solved: No sound with onboard VIA VT8233 sound
card


On Tuesday 10 February 2004 03:08, Littlefish Operator wrote:
>
> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc proved to be the ticket.  Afer
> more than a year of poking this MSI KT3 Ultra on board sound, I now
> have glorious sound at regular volumes.
>
Scott - this could help many others.  Could you please add it to the
TWiki page at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/SounD ?

Anne
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Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet?

Well Anne It didnt do anything for me at all, still all quiet here :( But
then again I really dont have any clue as to what I am supposed to do with
it. I went to the link but there are so many options, and then if I do
choose one I dont know how to install anything in linux. Me thinks I might
have to give up and stick to windows.


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Re: [newbie] [OT] The BBC and Linux.

2004-02-13 Thread John Richard Smith
Keith Powell wrote:

I have just been watching a daily Monday-Friday BBC Television 
business/consumer program called "Working Lunch".

In it, there was an item about Microsoft's Windows source code being on the 
Internet. During the item, which concentrated on how this would affect we 
computer users, the following statements were made:

"You can't just go out on the High Street and buy a different Operating 
system".

"There are others, but Windows is the best".

After dwelling on Windows and briefly mentioning Mac, their "Consumer Affairs 
Correspondant" said, "There is a third system called Linux. However it is 
very complicated and you have to be a computer expert to be able to use it. I 
certainly couldn't use it"

With a large influential company (the BBC) making such pro-Microsoft and 
anti-Linux statements such as this, we have quite an opposition to overcome. 

It's no good writing to them and complaining, as they won't want to know. 

I sign myself "A disgusted viewer".

Keith.
 

I don't mind complaining, is there an email address I can write to that 
puts the indevidual concerned to right ?

John

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[newbie] Adobe Acrobat install

2004-02-13 Thread mcoady
Has anyone using Mandrake 9.2 succeeded in installing Adobe Acrobat 
Reader. Somehow the linux-ar-405.tar.gz program has defeated everything 
I've tried.

Michael


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Re: [newbie] typist-2.6.2-2mdk.i586.rpm wont run

2004-02-13 Thread Hoyt Bailey

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From: "Marc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 10:17
Subject: [newbie] typist-2.6.2-2mdk.i586.rpm wont run


>   I installed typist-2.6.2-2mdk.i586.rpm  Everything seemed to install
> allright but I cant find it on on any menu and if I try to start it from
> console I get the message command not found.
>   Does anyone have a idea of how to fix this?
>
You might try running kappfind. If its located it will install the program
in your KDE menu.
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[newbie] Access control violation /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb start failed - help please

2004-02-13 Thread Marco Baiotto
Hi, I have installed a simple samba that uses a simple samba authentication
database. It has worked fine until last week and I have not changed anything
in my configuration files but suddenly I can't access my samba shares from
my Windows Xp Professional machine.
If I restart manually the smb service from a console, I receive
the message that smb and nmb daemons were restarted ok but if I restart the
services from Webmin tools I receive the message : 
Access control violation /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb start  failed
The finally result is that my samba server has stopped to work and I don't
understand why.
Thank you very much for any useful suggestions.
 
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Re: [newbie] [OT] The BBC and Linux.

2004-02-13 Thread Paul
> Keith Powell wrote:
> 
> >With a large influential company (the BBC) making such pro-Microsoft and 
> >anti-Linux statements such as this, we have quite an opposition to overcome. 
> >
> >It's no good writing to them and complaining, as they won't want to know. 
> >
> >I sign myself "A disgusted viewer".
> >  
> >
> Soft? 
> Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Went to the 'working lunch' website & read:

"Contact Us


Without your input, we would have a pretty boring old show on our
hands."

Also viewed the prog online (it appears that no-one must contact them).

Wrote to them, saying what their correspondent said might have been true
some years ago but Linux today was sometimes easier to install than MS,
and offered to stick a set of disks in the post to allow them to prove
it to themselves (whilst pointing out that it would be quicker for them
to download from Mandrake -f.o.c.)

With my best advocacy hat on, I didn't call the programme a load of
ill-informed crap.

*IF* I hear from them I'll let you know.

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Re: [newbie] [OT] The BBC and Linux.

2004-02-13 Thread robin
Hoyt Bailey wrote:


Consider the source.  The BBC is NOT a credible source.
It's as credible as any other mainstream media source: i.e. you need to 
take anything it says about computers with a pinch of salt. If, on the 
other hand, you're talking about the BBC in general, save that for the 
OT list, where the FoxNews fans will give you a warm welcome ;-)

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] on distributions...

2004-02-13 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Friday 13 February 2004 05:01 am, Dobrescu Mihai wrote:
> For the moment I would like to help translate Linux -
> this might be a possible way to get in - a lot of
> Romanians moved to a more inteligible interfacewhich
> is the one in their mother language. But I didn't do
> this on Linux and I need some guidance. There are a
> lot of funny translations that must be changed. Do you
> have any hint?

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/flists.php3

Look down the page for "Developer's lists". Particularly

"Do you want to have a good support for your mother tongue??? Join 
the mandrake i18n forces: subscribe to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and visit the i18n page for more 
information on translations." 

If you want to subscribe to these list by form please put your 
email address in the form below: 
 .
There you'll find a box to enter your email address and the 
drop down box has the il8n list on it.  Read the list and join 
in. You could provide a very valuable service to Mandrake.

 You should also see this page
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Re: [newbie] User can't switch off...but Root can!

2004-02-13 Thread robin
Margot wrote:
I must have done something really stupid, but I don't know what...!

Up until a couple of weeks ago, I used to be able to click on the Logout 
button, get a choice of 3 options (Login as different user; Turn off 
computer; Restart computer) select 'Turn off computer', and everything 
would gradually shut down and eventually the power would switch off.

This doesn't happen any more! When I select 'Turn off computer' I get a 
black screen with a white mouse pointer arrow in the middle, keyboard 
and mouse don't work, and nothing shuts down - I have to switch off the 
power switch button. When I switch on next day, system complains that it 
has shut down 'uncleanly'.

Only way I've found to get a clean shutdown now is to open a terminal, 
su to root (doesn't work as user!), and do 'shutdown -h -t 10 now'.

What have I done? How do I fix it?

Seems ridiculous that I have to be root to shut down the computer! Is 
this some sort of permissions problem?
Only allowing root to be able to shut down the computer goes way back to 
the early days of Unix, where you didn't want ordinary users to be able 
to shut down or reboot terminals. Consequently, AFAIK it is still the 
default on Unix-type systems.

Make sure that auto-login is off in MCC, then enable it in KDE (System 
-> Login Manager, and click Administrator Mode). That might do the 
trick.  Occasionally some other system change will reset it, which might 
be the cause of your problem (for example, I had to go back and put in 
the settings I wanted after updating KDE).

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] Preparing (hopefully) to install

2004-02-13 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Friday 13 February 2004 8:53 am, Chuck Mattsen wrote:
> Hi ... new to the list and, hopefully soon, new to Mandrake (and Linux in
> general, with the exception of some prior dinking around in WinLinux 2003
> awhile back).
>
> What I'm looking for, I guess, is someone to either allay my fears or
> to point out potential "gotchas" for the install.
>
> This is a new Compaq notebook, with no personal data on it yet, so
> potential data loss is not a major concern.  I have about 35GB free,
> and the notebook's running XP Professional (preinstalled and preformatted
> NTFS).
>
> I've tried to research this, but I seem to get somewhat conflicting
> answers when doing so ... will the Mandrake install handle
> partitioning for me, or do I need a 3rd-party program to pre-partition,
> etc.?  Again, I'm new to all this and, since it's a brand new PC for me,
> I'm still in the paranoid stage with it.  :-)
>
> Can I pretty much just let the install do its thing, or are there
> major problems ahead for me in doing so?
>
> TIA

Run a defrag, but don't allow Windows to arrange things to make Windows 
programs start faster or whatever that's called. Shut down Windows. 

On reboot set the boot order (in "set-up", reached by F10 I think on Compaq 
systems) to CD-ROM first and boot from Mandrake install disk number one. 
You'll be asked about preferences, using free space entire drive etc., select 
free space, then allow the installer to do the work for you. It will resize 
the partitions and set up the partition table, the first time Windows boots 
after it will complain and want to do a disk check, allow it since that was 
written into the routine intentionally. It won't hurt anything, it's just a 
way to allow Windows to think it still has control.

After the install you'll get a summary screen, go through everything there. 
You'll learn "stuff" and be more comfortable. Pay attention to the bootloader 
section, I'd suggest setting Windows as default for now. Skip the check for 
available updates at the end of the install since it hardly ever works. You 
can do that easily as soon as you log in the first time. Go here for that:

http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php

and follow the instructions BUT leave out the step

urpmi.removemedia -a

or you'll have to add the install disks back in.

Since it's a Compaq you'll have restore disks instead of install disks for the 
bundled software, I'd call customer service and raise hell. If you ever have 
to re-install Windows you'll get a repartitioned hard drive with no Linux at 
the end of a "restore." They can supply CDs with the bundled software if you 
demand it but usually you have to yell at them.

A _lot._

Good luck, have fun, and welcome to Open Source and Freedom.
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Re: [newbie] [OT] The BBC and Linux.

2004-02-13 Thread lanman
On February 13, 2004 10:52 am, Aron Smith wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2004 05:19 am, Keith Powell wrote:
> > I have just been watching a daily Monday-Friday BBC Television
> > business/consumer program called "Working Lunch".
> >
> > In it, there was an item about Microsoft's Windows source code
> > being on the Internet. During the item, which concentrated on how
> > this would affect we computer users, the following statements were
> > made:
> >
> > "You can't just go out on the High Street and buy a different
> > Operating system".
>
> But you can get a better one for free
>
> > "There are others, but Windows is the best".
>
> If you like security holes virai an Worms
>
> > After dwelling on Windows and briefly mentioning Mac, their
> > "Consumer Affairs Correspondant" said, "There is a third system
> > called Linux. However it is very complicated and you have to be a
> > computer expert to be able to use it. I certainly couldn't use it"
>
> me an expert ..? (can I have a key of what this clown has been
> smoking.
>
> > With a large influential company (the BBC) making such
> > pro-Microsoft and anti-Linux statements such as this, we have quite
> > an opposition to overcome.
> >
> > It's no good writing to them and complaining, as they won't want to
> > know.
> >
> > I sign myself "A disgusted viewer".
> >
> > Keith.

Not to be a [EMAIL PROTECTED] disturber ( yeah, Right! ) but the correspondent 
( Gillean Lacey-Solymar ) giving us this "enlightened" perspective on 
the BBC show has an email address! Go figure! I accidentally put it 
right here - "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  in case someone wanted to 
contact her. Imagine that! She's a graduate of Oxford! Humph! You'd 
think she'd know how to do her homework by now!

Also on staff with the BBC, Bill Thompson hits the nail on the head!

"However for me one of the most interesting - and rather depressing - 
aspects of the week's coverage was that it revealed just how little 
most people know, or are assumed to know, about the way computers and 
programs really work." 

Ring a bell much? Bill continues with this -  

"In the coverage of the release of the Windows source code we've seen 
journalists try to describe what it is that has been posted to websites 
around the net, but those who didn't descend into cliché seemed only 
able to use the most misleading metaphors. 

Perhaps the most common is to describe the source code as a "blueprint", 
presumably because we've all seen movies in which architects pore over 
blueprints of buildings under attack, or because middle-class readers 
all have the blueprints of their extensions carefully filed away. 

But source code isn't the blueprint: it is the thing itself. The source 
is the set of instructions given to the computer that, when executed, 
cause the behaviour we see on screen."

I think that this "Working Lunch" Correspondent fits into the category 
touched on by Bill Thompson. I wonder if they know each other ? 

Lanman

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the window into the eye of a 
giant penguin!"

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Re: [newbie] How to go about creating a new partition.

2004-02-13 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Sunday 13 October 2002 7:11 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:

> Well if you do screw up don't panic, it's all recoverable , just don't
> do anything to mess your windblows OS.
> If you do have trouble just ask again here on this list. Plenty of
> people with loads of experience to help you. What I have described is my
> way, I'm not presumptious enough to say it's the only way, but it's
> never failed me, and I've used most of them.
>
> John

I still don't know why anyone buys proprietary stuff to do something that can 
be done with free open source tools. 

Has anybody ever heard of parted?

http://www.linuxmigration.com/quickref/install/disk.html

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Re: [newbie] [OT] The BBC and Linux.

2004-02-13 Thread robin
Keith Powell wrote:
I have just been watching a daily Monday-Friday BBC Television 
business/consumer program called "Working Lunch".

In it, there was an item about Microsoft's Windows source code being on the 
Internet. During the item, which concentrated on how this would affect we 
computer users, the following statements were made:

"You can't just go out on the High Street and buy a different Operating 
system".

"There are others, but Windows is the best".

After dwelling on Windows and briefly mentioning Mac, their "Consumer Affairs 
Correspondant" said, "There is a third system called Linux. However it is 
very complicated and you have to be a computer expert to be able to use it. I 
certainly couldn't use it"

With a large influential company (the BBC) making such pro-Microsoft and 
anti-Linux statements such as this, we have quite an opposition to overcome. 

It's no good writing to them and complaining, as they won't want to know. 

I sign myself "A disgusted viewer".

It varies from programme to programme.  Their IT programme, "Click 
Online", tends to give Linux and OSS a good press, and far more coverage 
than you'd expect, given that it's designed very much with computer 
newbies in mind (a typical line might be "So what is ADSL, and why is it 
better than a normal modem?").  In fact, when they did a series on 
building a computer from parts (presumably with the slightly less newbie 
audience in mind), Linux was recommended for the OS. They've also done 
features on non-IE browsers, with Opera and Mozilla getting good press.

It's just a matter of who is praparing and presenting the programme in 
question. I know one the guys behind the scenes of Click Online is a 
veteran Windows-hater (he's a Mac lover, but I don't believe in 
prejudice against people's sexual preferences). He used to appear on 
.TV's "Chips With Everything" answering questions like "How can I use my 
Windows 98 computer as a router?" with answers like "For that, you need 
a real Operating System."

Incidentally, the penguin has landed in Turkey. We've just started 
getting the Turkish version of Tech TV, and they've started a programme 
called "Penguin Diary" (or rather, the equivalent in Turkish, which I 
can't type in ASCII characters!).

Sir Robin

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jobs seems no different in principle from telling political dissidents 
that they are free to emigrate."
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Robin Turner
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Re: [newbie] Bios upgrades

2004-02-13 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday 13 October 2002 07:34 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Bios upgrades
> =
>
> First off, not the fearsome thing it is made out to be.
>
> I just learnt the hard way a few precautionary things
> that saves time and grief.
>
> 1) Go into BIOS and turn of all virus detection settings.

 This is a good idea in any event

> 2) Buy a spare bios chip(they don't cost much - £5 UK PCCI)
> 3) Back up your old bios to a floppy.

 see below

> 4) My MSI bios chip upgrade website is very confusing,at first.
>
> I did mine the "dos floppy" route, as I cannot trust
> freeserve , my ISP, not to cut me off.So no flash bios.
>
> In any case I think I prefer the dos floppy route, more
> real control.
>
> Now, even if you don't have a second bios chip and you screw
> up, all is not lost provided that you have access to
> another computer with the same type of bios chip.An
> upgrade of that chip can be effected by means of substituting
> the machine's bios chip for the reprogrammed  chip  at the
> critical last moment before it is written to chip. After all
> you still have the machine's original bios chip to fall back
> on.
>
> The result.
> I now have very large HD capability
> I noticed on first boot that the mounting of my smart card
> reader went smoothly, something it has never done before.
> Too early to tell if that is final, but encouraging
> nevertheless.
>
> John

  Well good John.  Now next time you buy a motherboard, check 
around for one that has a second bios backup already onboard and 
doesn't need a DOS boot floppy, or Windoze runnin, to flash the 
bios. If for any reason the flash fails, or the bios is corrupted 
(Winsux virus?), the board automatically boots from the backup 
bios chip. Many of the newer boards are movin to this. Some have 
had it for years.

  It's always a good idea to check your motherboard's web page 
for bios updates. Usually updated for about the first 18 months 
the board is on the market.  It's not always neccessary to update 
tho. EG, my board (also a dual bios, no boot floppy needed board) 
has a new bios version available, but the changelog shows it's to 
fix a problem with hardware I don't have. So it's helpful to read 
the changelog before updating.
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[newbie] typist-2.6.2-2mdk.i586.rpm wont run

2004-02-13 Thread Marc
  I installed typist-2.6.2-2mdk.i586.rpm  Everything seemed to install 
allright but I cant find it on on any menu and if I try to start it from 
console I get the message command not found.
  Does anyone have a idea of how to fix this?

   TIA
Marc


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Re: [newbie] [OT] The BBC and Linux.

2004-02-13 Thread Hoyt Bailey

- Original Message - 
From: "Keith Powell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 07:19
Subject: [newbie] [OT] The BBC and Linux.


> I have just been watching a daily Monday-Friday BBC Television
> business/consumer program called "Working Lunch".
>
> In it, there was an item about Microsoft's Windows source code being on
the
> Internet. During the item, which concentrated on how this would affect we
> computer users, the following statements were made:
>
> "You can't just go out on the High Street and buy a different Operating
> system".
>
> "There are others, but Windows is the best".
>
> After dwelling on Windows and briefly mentioning Mac, their "Consumer
Affairs
> Correspondant" said, "There is a third system called Linux. However it is
> very complicated and you have to be a computer expert to be able to use
it. I
> certainly couldn't use it"
>
> With a large influential company (the BBC) making such pro-Microsoft and
> anti-Linux statements such as this, we have quite an opposition to
overcome.
>
> It's no good writing to them and complaining, as they won't want to know.
>
> I sign myself "A disgusted viewer".
>
Consider the source.  The BBC is NOT a credible source.
Hoyt



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Re: [newbie] on distributions...

2004-02-13 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Friday 13 February 2004 2:52 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

>
> Perhaps not everything goes into a beta release?  I'm sure mc has been
> in every release so far, but I don't run betas, so I couldn't answer
> for that.
>
> Anne

I was wrong. I said both were in contrib, memtester is but midnight commander 
is in main. 

The comment about space limitations still stands though.

/Mandrake-devel/contrib/i586/memtester-2.93.1-5mdk.i586.rpm
/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mc-4.6.0-4mdk.i586.rpm

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Re: [newbie] on distributions...

2004-02-13 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Friday 13 February 2004 2:40 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Friday 13 February 2004 10:33, Dobrescu Mihai wrote:
> > I couldn't find them, but I'm still looking in the
> > packages!
> > I mean in 10b2.
>
> I looked for "mc" too...it isn't there!
> Either download it from cooker or install the 9.2 version.
>
> Leaving mc out of a distrib feels like forgetting to put on underwear under
> a smoking, heh?:)
> Memtest isn't that linux specific so wouldn't need to be on a beta disk
> imo. Best way to use it is on it's own bootable floppy.
>
> Good luck,
> HarM

Both are contrib packages and therefore will never be a part of the download 
or "Standard" edition.

Space limitations and support issues don't you know.

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Re: [newbie] [OT] The BBC and Linux.

2004-02-13 Thread Aron Smith
On Friday 13 February 2004 05:19 am, Keith Powell wrote:
> I have just been watching a daily Monday-Friday BBC Television
> business/consumer program called "Working Lunch".
>
> In it, there was an item about Microsoft's Windows source code being on the
> Internet. During the item, which concentrated on how this would affect we
> computer users, the following statements were made:
>
> "You can't just go out on the High Street and buy a different Operating
> system".
But you can get a better one for free
>
> "There are others, but Windows is the best".
If you like security holes virai an Worms
>
> After dwelling on Windows and briefly mentioning Mac, their "Consumer
> Affairs Correspondant" said, "There is a third system called Linux. However
> it is very complicated and you have to be a computer expert to be able to
> use it. I certainly couldn't use it"
me an expert ..? (can I have a key of what this clown has been smoking.
>
> With a large influential company (the BBC) making such pro-Microsoft and
> anti-Linux statements such as this, we have quite an opposition to
> overcome.
>
> It's no good writing to them and complaining, as they won't want to know.
>
> I sign myself "A disgusted viewer".
>
> Keith.


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RE: Re: [newbie] new to mandrake

2004-02-13 Thread Tony S. Sykes
Does it on mine since 7.

Tony.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Harold E Vine III
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 3:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: [newbie] new to mandrake


question.

lindows os detected and mounted my ntfs partition straight away after the install.

is mandrake as simple as that? one of the bugs with rh9 and fedroa was it was 
difficult to do that process period.


> 
> From: lanman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2004/02/13 Fri AM 10:34:43 EST
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] new to mandrake
> 
> On February 13, 2004 09:23 am, you wrote:
> > On February 13, 2004 08:46 am, Harold E Vine III wrote:
> > > my video card is a ati all in wonder ve chipset 7500 and pci, 64
> > > meg.
> >
> > Mandrake should detect the card, but I don't think it will see the
> > TV-Tuner that's built in. However, there's been some changes since i
> > last tried an All-In-Wonder in Linux, so you're results may differ.
> > Let us know how the install goes.
> >
> > Lanman
> 
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> 
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> the window into the eye of a 
> giant penguin!"
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] MCC "Network & Internet"

2004-02-13 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 13 February 2004 13:07, GV wrote:
> Hi,
>
> how can I achieve the MCC functionality concerning the setup of an
> Internet connection without going through the GUI? Which
> scripts/commands do I have to run?
>
> Thanks

Depends on what you you're looking for:

there's "drakconnect" that fires up the wizard,, there's "service network 
start" to fire up a previously configured setup.

And of course manually:
"ifconfig eth0  ...up" for static IP or "ifup eth0" if you're 
using dhcp.
"route add default gw ...." if you're in need to go through a 
gateway.
and if need be put the nameserver name in /etc/resolv.conf:
"echo nameserver ... > /etc/resolv.conf"

Where x, y , z are supposed to be numbers:)

Good luck,
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[newbie] [OT] The BBC and Linux.

2004-02-13 Thread Keith Powell
I have just been watching a daily Monday-Friday BBC Television 
business/consumer program called "Working Lunch".

In it, there was an item about Microsoft's Windows source code being on the 
Internet. During the item, which concentrated on how this would affect we 
computer users, the following statements were made:

"You can't just go out on the High Street and buy a different Operating 
system".

"There are others, but Windows is the best".

After dwelling on Windows and briefly mentioning Mac, their "Consumer Affairs 
Correspondant" said, "There is a third system called Linux. However it is 
very complicated and you have to be a computer expert to be able to use it. I 
certainly couldn't use it"

With a large influential company (the BBC) making such pro-Microsoft and 
anti-Linux statements such as this, we have quite an opposition to overcome. 

It's no good writing to them and complaining, as they won't want to know. 

I sign myself "A disgusted viewer".

Keith.


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Re: [newbie] This is why I love this OS...

2004-02-13 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:40:17 +0100
H.J.Bathoorn disseminated the following:

> Yay, well it's up now!:)
> Still no anti-aliasing, I see.

Actually, that *is* AA, but with Verdana (my new favourite font), it's very
subtle. GCombust is still, and likely always will be according to the developer,
GTK1.2, so no AA there, but ROX Filer (GTK2) is AA. Now I want every app to go
GTK2 so I can have my AA fonts... 

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Re: [newbie] new to mandrake

2004-02-13 Thread lanman
On February 13, 2004 06:51 am, Harold E Vine III wrote:
> I'm downloading 9.2
>
> I've become astranged from rh/fedora core.
>
> I'm planning to install this weekend, and I'm wondering if y'all
> could provide a couple links to read that would make the install go
> smoothly.
>
> I have a 2.3gig emachine, 1st drive is 80gig, second(for linux)is an
> 8 gig, I run xp on drive one, both ide drives.
> 512 meg-o-ram, dvd, cd burner.
>
> I'm not a newbie to linux, just this distro. I've tried others, but I
> have found the "right one".
>
> I'm hoping mandrake is for me!
>
> thank you for you thoughts, in advance.
>
> harold

Harold; First of all. Welcome to the list and to Mandrake-Linux ! I 
think you're going to find that you'll enjoy your "stay" ! Having a 
look at your hardware, I'd say it'll do OK. Grin! In other words, 
Mandrake should run very nicely on it! 

With regards to the install, I don't think you have much to worry about. 
If the 8 GB drive is in good shape. When you start the install, make 
sure that your BIOS is set to boot from your CD or DVD drive, and 
reboot the system with CD #1 in place -you probably knew that already, 
but I'm covering all the bases here.

When you see the boot option screen, press enter. For the most part, the 
hard work is over at that point. . Since you've had experience with 
Hed Rat, you shouldn't have any problems. In fact, you'll probably find 
this install easier.

Since it seems that you'll be using the system as a workstation, I 
suggest that you set up the 8Gb drive in 3 partitions - "/" (root), 
"swap", and "/home" with "/" getting about 4.5 Gb's. Set up your Swap 
partition so that it is equal in size to the amount of your ram, and 
"/home" can have whatever space is left over.

You didn't mention your video card, so I can't help you there, but even 
if it's on the bleeding edge, mandrake should at least be able to give 
it a default configuration. If your video is onboard, it probably 
shares some of the conventional ram you have installed. I suggest 
setting the video ram to 64MB's if possible, but that's based on you 
having 256MB's of ram at least!

The first panel that you see which allows you to check boxes for the 
types of programs you want to install has some extra functionality as 
well. At the bottom, you'll see a checkbox labelled "Individual Package 
Selection". If you desire additional choices in selecting your 
preferred software, check that box, and click the "Next" button. Once 
in the new panel, you'll see a better list of packages which can be 
opened up to provide a better list of selctions.

For a complete list of all the packages on your 3 CD set, you'll find 4 
icons at the bottom of this panel. The third one will switch you to a 
comprehensive list of every package on the CD's, and youcanswitch back 
and forth by clicking that icon again. The fourth icon allows you to 
save your selection of packages to a floppy disk, and also to load a 
previously saved list of packages from a floppy diskette, should you 
ever need to re-install. That option alone will save you a lot of time 
for future installs, so keep it in mind.

You can find more information here: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org which 
should also help with the install. Hope that helps. Enjoy and Welcome!

Lanman

-- 
Registered Linux user #190712

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the window into the eye of a 
giant penguin!"

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