[newbie] YAWQ :-)

2004-03-28 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Yet another wireless question:

Is packet loss normal running via wireless? I never see packet loss on my 
hardwired LAN, but when using my wireless laptop and I ping the other comps I 
get a small amount of packet loss. Usually in the neighborhood of 10-15 
percent or so...

Thanks!

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[newbie] Sound with ASUS Motherboard P4P800

2004-03-28 Thread yvan_linux
Hello,

did anyone succeed to make sound working with the onboard sound on a ASUS
Motherboard P4P800.

There is a driver on the ASUS CD and on their web site but this driver
doesn't seem to work.

Cheers
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[newbie] Maybe this is the problem.............

2004-03-28 Thread Charlie
Those having problems with seeing there posts on the list might discover that 
it has something to do with these messages that have come through for ages, 
and yet the email shows up on the list just the same?

Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mail Delivery System)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is the Postfix program at host smtp.mandrax.org.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.

For further assistance, please contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the message returned below.

The Postfix program

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: mail forwarding loop for 
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Re: [newbie] More adventures in MDK 10

2004-03-28 Thread Charlie
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:56 am, many eyes viewed John Wilson's words:-
> After a few days of playing with this I'm really starting to love it. 
> Speed is definitely not an issue.  This old Dell is acting like it's a
> young pup again.  About the only thing it won't do is direct a missile at a
> car parked under me whose alarm has been singing at me for the last two
> hours.  But I'm working on that. :-)
>
> After reading some of the complaints here and being horrified by some of my
> own past experineces I haven't noticed one little thing I can't live with
> so far.  A few quirks but nothing serious.
>
> As far as the downloaded CDs are concerned 3 of them, the first three,
> quite happily play on my CD player...an old and rather balky thing that has
> been a pain in the past.  So far so good this time out.  CD's 4 and 5
> though fail to read on that device but read just fine on the CD burner.  I
> can't figure that out but I can live with it.  I just had to rejig my
> sources a bit and I was off.
>
> Now...the Internet connection sharing and all that rot.
>
> In the past drakgw has made a right royal mess of things because I use eth1
> for the outside world and eth0 for my internal network.  The first time I
> tried to configure it this way it failed.  As I was in a hurry that time I
> reinstalled and cringed a few days before I tried again.  This time it
> worked!
>
> There was one difference and only one in how I installed.  On the first
> attempt I configured both cards when I was installing.  drakgw happily
> assumed that eth0 was the internet instead of eth1, in spite of asking me
> politely, and borked the whole thing.  On the second install I only
> configured eth1.
>
> drakgw asked me all the same questions, correctly selected the unconfigured
> NIC as the card to assign the internal network to and installed.  I brewed
> a very strong cup of coffee (the strongest mood altering substance I'm
> allowed these days) and waited.  After configuring everything drakgw
> happily announced that I was set up.
>
> I took a big swig of coffee, scratched my cat's ears for luck, and switched
> over to Networking in MCC.  Damned if it didn't look like everything was
> there!  I was even seeing traffic!  I pointed Konq to a known good web site
> and I got there!
>
> So here's the moral of the story...if you plan to use a NIC for the
> internal network do NOT, EVER, configure it on install.  Leave it out. 
> Don't even pretend it exists.  Only configure the card you plan to use to
> connect to the internet.  That way drakgw will actually select the right
> card, configure the correct card for the internal network and you'll be
> fine.  Anything else and it will sulk and insist that you must mean that
> eth0 is the internet regardless of what you tell it.
>
> There...figured out...all on my own.  Gee I'm proud of myself. :-)
>
> If I keep this up I'll be able to join Joe Hill as a sage here. :-)
>
> ttfn
>
> John

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Re: [newbie] package name? - HIJACKED THREAD> TIME PROBLEM

2004-03-28 Thread Charlie
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:46 am, many eyes viewed Steve Kaurfman's words:-
> >  
>
> I am using thunderbird and this mail from Charlie shows up with a date
> on 3/29/04 @ 3:48 AM in my inbox. Anybody have an idea why. It is only
> the 28th here in CT. Easter Standard Time. Shouldn't it get converted to
> local time?
>
> Here's my time setting
>
>
> Thx
> Steve


Was sent on the 28th March 2004 from here. We changed from daylight saving 
time overnight and I did this manually, but this morning the system had 
changed the time by itself and was a couple of hours behind.

So it was probably something on my system that was crook.
Time is right now.

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Re: [newbie] Unreal Tourn. (original, GOTY) won't run after install

2004-03-28 Thread Philip Cronje
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:33:32 -0500, Marv Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello, everyone. I hope someone here is familiar with running the
> Windows version of Unreal Tournament (Game of the Year edition of the
> original version) under Linux.
> 
> I used abfackeln's install scripts to install UT-GOTY on my Mandrake 9.2
> box. The install worked flawlessly (at least, as far as I could tell),
> but when I try to run the game I get the following:
> 
> Unreal engine initialized
> Failed to load 'WinDrv': Can't find file for package 'WinDrv'
> Failed to load 'Class WinDrv.WindowsClient': Can't find file for package
> 'WinDrv'
> Can't find file for package 'WinDrv'
> appError called:
> Can't find file for package 'WinDrv'
> Executing UObject::StaticShutdownAfterError
> Signal: SIGIOT [iot trap]
> Aborting.
> Exiting.
> 
> The installation was so automatic that I can't recall having seen any
> reference to this WinDrv thing. I do, however, have the following files
> in my /usr/local/games/ut/System:
> 
> WinDrv.est
> WinDrv.frt
> WinDrv.int
> 
> There's a WinDrv.dll on my UT-GOTY disc, but copying it to 
> /usr/local/games/ut/System did nothing (I didn't reasonably expect that 
> it should).
WinDrv is the Windows driver for UT. For Linux, you should be using the (I think; this 
is all from memory) SDLDrv driver. I'd check it out for you right now, but I need to 
go to university now :P

Hope this sets you on the right track, anyway.

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[newbie] Odd syslog messages, could be solution to dhcp problem

2004-03-28 Thread Marc Resnick
Can anyone make heads or tails of this:

Mar 28 20:29:46 localhost dhcpcd[23325]: dns option is missing in DHCP 
server response. Assuming 192.168.1.1
Mar 28 20:29:46 localhost dhcpcd[23325]: subnetMask option is missing in 
DHCP server response. Assuming 255.0.0.0
Mar 28 20:29:46 localhost dhcpcd[23325]: broadcastAddr option is missing 
in DHCP server response. Assuming 0.255.255.255
Mar 28 20:29:46 localhost dhcpcd[23325]: dhcpIPaddrLeaseTime option is 
missing in DHCP server response. Assuming 4294967295 sec
Mar 28 20:29:46 localhost dhcpcd[23325]: dhcpT1value is missing in DHCP 
server response. Assuming 2147483647 sec
Mar 28 20:29:46 localhost dhcpcd[23325]: dhcpT2value is missing in DHCP 
server response. Assuming 3758096383 sec
Mar 28 20:29:46 localhost dhcpcd[23325]: DHCP_NAK server response received
Mar 28 20:29:46 localhost dhcpcd[23325]: broadcasting DHCP_DISCOVER
Mar 28 20:29:46 localhost kernel: martian source 255.255.255.255 from 
192.168.1.1, on dev wlan0

It says it's assuming that lease time because I haven't defined it. 
Where am I supposed to define it? Isn't dhcpcd supposed to get it on its 
own?

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Re: [newbie] To install Mandrake 10 screwed up my windows xp / Al instalar m10 no m funciona winxp

2004-03-28 Thread Erylon Hines
On Sunday 28 March 2004 11:54 am, Jalberto mosino wrote:
> > On March 28, 2004 10:21 am, Jalberto mosino wrote:
> > > English version / versión en inglés:
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Hi! i had a main partition with windows xp. Then i
> > > installed mandrake 10 and now when i go to the
> >
> > lilo
> >
> > > and select the windows partition, the screen just
> >
> > go
> >
> > > black with a blinkin cursor on left-top
> > >
> > > Ive tried to fix boot, fix mbr from the win xp
> >
> > console
> >
> > > and some stuff, but i dont know wat more to do
> >
> > any
> >
> > > suggestion?
> > >
> > > thxxx :)
>
> http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake10
>
It all depends on what happened.  IF you didn't format your Winsux partition, 
and IF it is only a lilo problem with the mbr, you should be able to just 
re-install XP without formatting any partitions.  That should solve the XP 
problem and restore Winsux to your original configuration.  Hopefully, you 
have a full-install disk of XP, and not a crippled manufacturer's "restore" 
disk, because that could totally fubar any programs that you have installed 
under XP.
Not much help, but that is what I would do.

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[newbie] Unreal Tourn. (original, GOTY) won't run after install

2004-03-28 Thread Marv Boyes
Hello, everyone. I hope someone here is familiar with running the
Windows version of Unreal Tournament (Game of the Year edition of the
original version) under Linux.
I used abfackeln's install scripts to install UT-GOTY on my Mandrake 9.2
box. The install worked flawlessly (at least, as far as I could tell),
but when I try to run the game I get the following:
Unreal engine initialized
Failed to load 'WinDrv': Can't find file for package 'WinDrv'
Failed to load 'Class WinDrv.WindowsClient': Can't find file for package
'WinDrv'
Can't find file for package 'WinDrv'
appError called:
Can't find file for package 'WinDrv'
Executing UObject::StaticShutdownAfterError
Signal: SIGIOT [iot trap]
Aborting.
Exiting.
The installation was so automatic that I can't recall having seen any
reference to this WinDrv thing. I do, however, have the following files
in my /usr/local/games/ut/System:
WinDrv.est
WinDrv.frt
WinDrv.int
There's a WinDrv.dll on my UT-GOTY disc, but copying it to 
/usr/local/games/ut/System did nothing (I didn't reasonably expect that 
it should).

When I try to run the uninstall script, it exits thus:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ut]# sh uninstall
Product: Unreal Tournament GOTY
Installed in /usr/local/games/ut
Unable to find component
If it turns out that there's no way I can run UT on this machine, it's
500+ megs of HD space that I'd like to get back (the right way, rather
than just deleting stuff). Can anyone say what's going on, with either 
the execution or the uninstall? Any guidance would be greatly 
appreciated; thanks very much in advance.

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Re: [newbie] MDK 10 -- Webmin won't start

2004-03-28 Thread John Wilson
On March 28, 2004 09:24 am, Bill Winegarden wrote:
> Hi,
> Your message prompted me to install webmin and give it a try. I used mcc to
> install it. Then I ran 'webmin' in a cli. Then I tried to connect and
> voila...it worked. Did you run the program before trying to connect?
>
> Regards,
> Bill W.
>
Sigh.

Ya know, I just thought of that.  I normally install webmin on the inital 
install and it's always sorta been there.  This time it was an after the fact 
install.

Me stupid. :-)

thanks anyway, Bill :-)

ttfn

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Re: [newbie] MDK 10 -- Webmin won't start

2004-03-28 Thread Bill Winegarden
Hi,
Your message prompted me to install webmin and give it a try. I used mcc to 
install it. Then I ran 'webmin' in a cli. Then I tried to connect and 
voila...it worked. Did you run the program before trying to connect?

Regards,
Bill W.

On Monday 29 March 2004 01:38, John Wilson wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> There is probably an issue at my end but...here we go anyway.
>
> Whenever I try to start Webmin I get this:
>
> An error occurred while loading https://localhost:1/:
>
>
> Could not connect to host localhost (port 1)
>
> What could this be?  And yes, webmin is installed. :-)
>
> ttfn
>
> John


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[newbie] Unreal Tournament won't start after install

2004-03-28 Thread Marv Boyes
Hello, everyone. I hope someone here is familiar with running the
Windows version of Unreal Tournament (Game of the Year edition of the
original version) under Linux.
I used abfackeln's install scripts to install UT-GOTY on my Mandrake 9.2
box. The install worked flawlessly (at least, as far as I could tell),
but when I try to run the game I get the following:
Unreal engine initialized
Failed to load 'WinDrv': Can't find file for package 'WinDrv'
Failed to load 'Class WinDrv.WindowsClient': Can't find file for package
'WinDrv'
Can't find file for package 'WinDrv'
appError called:
Can't find file for package 'WinDrv'
Executing UObject::StaticShutdownAfterError
Signal: SIGIOT [iot trap]
Aborting.
Exiting.
The installation was so automatic that I can't recall having seen any
reference to this WinDrv thing. I do, however, have the following files
in my /usr/local/games/ut/System:
WinDrv.est
WinDrv.frt
WinDrv.int
There's a WinDrv.dll on my UT-GOTY disc, but copying it to 
/usr/local/games/ut/System did nothing (I didn't reasonably expect that 
it should).

When I try to run the uninstall script, it exits thus:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ut]# sh uninstall
Product: Unreal Tournament GOTY
Installed in /usr/local/games/ut
Unable to find component
If it turns out that there's no way I can run UT on this machine, it's
500+ megs of HD space that I'd like to get back (the right way, rather
than just deleting stuff). Can anyone say what's going on, with either 
the execution or the uninstall? Any guidance would be greatly 
appreciated; thanks very much in advance.

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[newbie] More adventures in MDK 10

2004-03-28 Thread John Wilson
After a few days of playing with this I'm really starting to love it.  Speed 
is definitely not an issue.  This old Dell is acting like it's a young pup 
again.  About the only thing it won't do is direct a missile at a car parked 
under me whose alarm has been singing at me for the last two hours.  But I'm 
working on that. :-)

After reading some of the complaints here and being horrified by some of my 
own past experineces I haven't noticed one little thing I can't live with so 
far.  A few quirks but nothing serious.

As far as the downloaded CDs are concerned 3 of them, the first three, quite 
happily play on my CD player...an old and rather balky thing that has been a 
pain in the past.  So far so good this time out.  CD's 4 and 5 though fail to 
read on that device but read just fine on the CD burner.  I can't figure that 
out but I can live with it.  I just had to rejig my sources a bit and I was 
off.

Now...the Internet connection sharing and all that rot.

In the past drakgw has made a right royal mess of things because I use eth1 
for the outside world and eth0 for my internal network.  The first time I 
tried to configure it this way it failed.  As I was in a hurry that time I 
reinstalled and cringed a few days before I tried again.  This time it 
worked!

There was one difference and only one in how I installed.  On the first 
attempt I configured both cards when I was installing.  drakgw happily 
assumed that eth0 was the internet instead of eth1, in spite of asking me 
politely, and borked the whole thing.  On the second install I only 
configured eth1.

drakgw asked me all the same questions, correctly selected the unconfigured 
NIC as the card to assign the internal network to and installed.  I brewed a 
very strong cup of coffee (the strongest mood altering substance I'm allowed 
these days) and waited.  After configuring everything drakgw happily 
announced that I was set up.

I took a big swig of coffee, scratched my cat's ears for luck, and switched 
over to Networking in MCC.  Damned if it didn't look like everything was 
there!  I was even seeing traffic!  I pointed Konq to a known good web site 
and I got there!

So here's the moral of the story...if you plan to use a NIC for the internal 
network do NOT, EVER, configure it on install.  Leave it out.  Don't even 
pretend it exists.  Only configure the card you plan to use to connect to the 
internet.  That way drakgw will actually select the right card, configure the 
correct card for the internal network and you'll be fine.  Anything else and 
it will sulk and insist that you must mean that eth0 is the internet 
regardless of what you tell it.

There...figured out...all on my own.  Gee I'm proud of myself. :-)

If I keep this up I'll be able to join Joe Hill as a sage here. :-)

ttfn

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Re: [newbie] SCO Licensee: 'Would I do it again? No,'

2004-03-28 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 28 March 2004 05:28 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> Quote:
>
> "Less than a month after becoming the first publicly announced buyer of The
> SCO Group Inc.'s controversial intellectual property license for Linux,
> Houston-based Internet service provider Everyones Internet Ltd. is
> reconsidering the benefits of doing business with the Linux community's No.
> 1 enemy.
>
> Link:
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,91671,00
>.html?f=x249
>
> Heh. Darl's in it up to his neck, and the water's risin'.

In a perfect world, it wouldn't be water that was rising. Punch line from a 
very old joke: "It's not too bad until the Devil comes around in his 
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Re: [newbie] To install Mandrake 10 screwed up my windows xp / Al instalar m10 no m funciona winxp

2004-03-28 Thread Charlie Mahan
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On March 28, 2004 12:54 pm, Jalberto mosino wrote:


> i did wat follows:
> "use a floppy disk from FreeDOS?
> (http://www.freedos.org/) and do a 'fdisk /mbr' and
> you should be able to boot again"
>
> I got that from the url u give me i think this is
> the same that the fixmbr thing from the win xp
> console...

Did you actually do it or just try fixmbr at a Windows console?

The fixmbr from Windows won't do shit. Did you actually read the page at the 
URL I posted?

> It didnt work :'(
> When it should start to load the os it just does
> nothing but the blinkin cursor...

You said this. Did you *follow the instructions* or not?

> Any other sugguestion? does anybody need something
> else to know wats going on? just ask me for it,
> please... (and tell me how to get it...) :)

Try following the instructions rather than assuming that the tools you have 
with XP will do anything. You've already tried them, remember?

Copied directly from the "Proposed Errata" section for this 'gotcha.':

Problem: Windows doesn't boot anymore after modifying partitions table 
Solutions (only temporary solutions) 
1.) Change disk access mode to "LBA" in the BIOS settings and reboot in 
windows should work 
2.) use a floppy disk from FreeDOS? (http://www.freedos.org/) and do a 
'fdisk /mbr' and you should be able to boot again - 17 Mar 2000

You'll likely have to do both. I did on 2 upgrades. Fresh installs on newly 
assembled systems didn't reuire either since I set them up correctly to begin 
with.

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[newbie] MDK 10 -- Webmin won't start

2004-03-28 Thread John Wilson
Hi there!

There is probably an issue at my end but...here we go anyway.

Whenever I try to start Webmin I get this:

An error occurred while loading https://localhost:1/:


Could not connect to host localhost (port 1)

What could this be?  And yes, webmin is installed. :-)

ttfn

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Re: [newbie] package name? - HIJACKED THREAD> TIME PROBLEM

2004-03-28 Thread Charlie Mahan
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On March 28, 2004 04:46 pm, Steve Kaurfman wrote:

> I am using thunderbird and this mail from Charlie shows up with a date
> on 3/29/04 @ 3:48 AM in my inbox. Anybody have an idea why. It is only
> the 28th here in CT. Easter Standard Time. Shouldn't it get converted to
> local time?
>
> Here's my time setting
>
>
> Thx
> Steve
>
Because for him that is the correct date. He's in Australia y'know. Look at 
his e-mail address.

The other (one of them) Charlie. 
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Re: [newbie] package name? - HIJACKED THREAD> TIME PROBLEM

2004-03-28 Thread Steve Kaurfman




Charlie wrote:

  On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 08:39 am, many eyes viewed John Wilson's words:-
  
  
On March 28, 2004 09:58 am, JoeHill wrote:


  On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 09:42:01 -0700

Charlie Mahan disseminated the following:
  
  

  I just installed Mdk on a new machine and I can't seem to remember
what package it is that puts the server config page in Mandrake
Control Center.

Anyone know?
  

urpmi drakwizard [Enter]

  
  Heh, everybody always jumps on the easy ones...in my case 'cuz those are
the only ones I usually know the answer to ;-)
  

Okay..but can you explain Stephen Harper? :-)

ttfn

John

  
  
The easy ones are always the ones you know. The others are always hard.

Charlie.

  
  


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I am using thunderbird and this mail from Charlie shows up with a date
on 3/29/04 @ 3:48 AM in my inbox. Anybody have an idea why. It is only
the 28th here in CT. Easter Standard Time. Shouldn't it get converted
to local time?

Here's my time setting


Thx
Steve

On my windows box. 


<>

Re: [newbie] package name?

2004-03-28 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:29:18 -0500
Dave Steiner disseminated the following:

> W! >:o   My thread has been jacked! 

...and by a well-known 'list Nazi' no less :-P

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Re: [newbie] package name?

2004-03-28 Thread Dave Steiner




JoeHill wrote:

  On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:39:50 -0800
John Wilson disseminated the following:

  
  

  Heh, everybody always jumps on the easy ones...in my case 'cuz those are
the only ones I usually know the answer to ;-)
  

Okay..but can you explain Stephen Harper? :-)

  
  
That requires a lobotomy and heavy sedation with Thorazine, then 72 hours of
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Re: [newbie] package name?

2004-03-28 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:39:50 -0800
John Wilson disseminated the following:

> > Heh, everybody always jumps on the easy ones...in my case 'cuz those are
> > the only ones I usually know the answer to ;-)
> 
> Okay..but can you explain Stephen Harper? :-)

That requires a lobotomy and heavy sedation with Thorazine, then 72 hours of
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Re: [newbie] package name?

2004-03-28 Thread Charlie
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 08:39 am, many eyes viewed John Wilson's words:-
> On March 28, 2004 09:58 am, JoeHill wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 09:42:01 -0700
> >
> > Charlie Mahan disseminated the following:
> > > > I just installed Mdk on a new machine and I can't seem to remember
> > > > what package it is that puts the server config page in Mandrake
> > > > Control Center.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone know?
> > >
> > > urpmi drakwizard [Enter]
> >
> > Heh, everybody always jumps on the easy ones...in my case 'cuz those are
> > the only ones I usually know the answer to ;-)
>
> Okay..but can you explain Stephen Harper? :-)
>
> ttfn
>
> John

The easy ones are always the ones you know. The others are always hard.

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Re: Signature Scripts (WAS: Re: [newbie] Steve's second question of the day. Time machine has been up)

2004-03-28 Thread Charlie
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 08:34 am, many eyes viewed Chuck Mattsen's words:-
> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 02:19, Charlie wrote:
> > > Thanks ... I'll send you a copy of it off list (however, I suspect it's
> > > a PEBKAC thing, as I tried to compile a .dat via strfile with just a
> > > few taglines, and ended up with the same thing ... one large
> > > concatenated tagline).
> >
> > I  haven't been following this thread but are you pointing your mail
> > program to the file or the .dat file?
>
> The problem was in my tagline file, either in the way I saved it, or
> something with EOLs (or lack thereof, I'm not sure), causing the strfile
> process to just concatenate them into one big ol' mess.  In any case,
> with Todd's help I got the file and associated .dat in place and working
> and, with further experimentation, found that I could create a small
> test file and working .dat with no problem, so it was definitely
> something in the file itself and the way I had created it when
> transporting it over from my Windows installation.
>
> Probably my choice of editors, but I've not narrowed the cause down yet.
>
> :*)

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Re: [newbie] package name?

2004-03-28 Thread John Wilson
On March 28, 2004 09:58 am, JoeHill wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 09:42:01 -0700
>
> Charlie Mahan disseminated the following:
> > > I just installed Mdk on a new machine and I can't seem to remember what
> > > package it is that puts the server config page in Mandrake Control
> > > Center.
> > >
> > > Anyone know?
> >
> > urpmi drakwizard [Enter]
>
> Heh, everybody always jumps on the easy ones...in my case 'cuz those are
> the only ones I usually know the answer to ;-)

Okay..but can you explain Stephen Harper? :-)

ttfn

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[newbie] Free Linux scanner software released

2004-03-28 Thread JoeHill

"Phoenix-based Hamrick Software has released the Standard Edition of its Linux
version of VueScan software free for personal and educational use.

VueScan supports infrared scanners from manufacturers like Epson, Minolta, Nikon
and Canon. VueScan software allows you to automatically find and remove dust
spots and scratches when scanning film, reducing the need to manually touch up
scans with Photoshop, and significantly improving scanning productivity says the
company."

http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS6790159134.html

Now if only they would add support for the HP 2300C... :-(

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Re: Signature Scripts (WAS: Re: [newbie] Steve's second question of the day. Time machine has been up)

2004-03-28 Thread Chuck Mattsen
On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 02:19, Charlie wrote:
> > Thanks ... I'll send you a copy of it off list (however, I suspect it's
> > a PEBKAC thing, as I tried to compile a .dat via strfile with just a few
> > taglines, and ended up with the same thing ... one large concatenated
> > tagline).
> 
> I  haven't been following this thread but are you pointing your mail program 
> to the file or the .dat file?

The problem was in my tagline file, either in the way I saved it, or
something with EOLs (or lack thereof, I'm not sure), causing the strfile
process to just concatenate them into one big ol' mess.  In any case,
with Todd's help I got the file and associated .dat in place and working
and, with further experimentation, found that I could create a small
test file and working .dat with no problem, so it was definitely
something in the file itself and the way I had created it when
transporting it over from my Windows installation.

Probably my choice of editors, but I've not narrowed the cause down yet.
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[newbie] SCO Licensee: 'Would I do it again? No,'

2004-03-28 Thread JoeHill

Quote:

"Less than a month after becoming the first publicly announced buyer of The SCO
Group Inc.'s controversial intellectual property license for Linux,
Houston-based Internet service provider Everyones Internet Ltd. is reconsidering
the benefits of doing business with the Linux community's No. 1 enemy.

Link:

http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,91671,00.html?f=x249

Heh. Darl's in it up to his neck, and the water's risin'.

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Re: Signature Scripts (WAS: Re: [newbie] Steve's second question of the day. Time machine has been up)

2004-03-28 Thread Charlie
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:59 am, many eyes viewed Chuck Mattsen's words:-
> On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 08:39, Todd Slater wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 06:22:33PM -0600, Chuck Mattsen wrote:
> > > I managed to get mine working, including the tagline/'fortune' ... I
> > > can still only use others' fortunes, however, as all attempts to
> > > compile my own via the strfile command have failed, yielding just one
> > > big file instead of individual taglines.  Not sure what's up with that,
> > > but figuring that out is currently on my e-mail client "wish"/to-do
> > > list.
> > >
> > > :-)
> >
> > can you send me an attachment of your original text file that you run
> > strfile on? I'll see if I can duplicate the error here.
>
> Thanks ... I'll send you a copy of it off list (however, I suspect it's
> a PEBKAC thing, as I tried to compile a .dat via strfile with just a few
> taglines, and ended up with the same thing ... one large concatenated
> tagline).

I  haven't been following this thread but are you pointing your mail program 
to the file or the .dat file?

Charlie

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Re: [newbie] 10 CE Shutdown

2004-03-28 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:28 pm, many eyes viewed Margot's words:-
> Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > On Thursday 25 March 2004 02:03 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> >>>http://www.iki.fi/tmb/Cooker/kernel-tmb-2.6.4-1.tmb.3mdk-1-1m
> >>>dk.i586.rpm
> >>>http://www.iki.fi/tmb/Cooker/kernel-tmb-2.6.4-1.tmb.3mdk-1-1m
> >>>dk.nosrc.rpm
> >>
> >>Well, some success... I managed to download and install the new
> >>kernel (without getting cut off this time), and the shutdown
> >>now goes past the original hang point, but now it gets to this:
> >>
> >>md: md0 switched to read-only mode.
> >>Power down.
> >>
> >>...but it doesn't actually switch off!
> >>
> >>I assume that it is safe to just hit the power switch at this
> >>point, but is there some setting I could change so it will
> >>switch off automatically?
> >>
> >>Margot
> >
> > No sooner did I post the link to Thomas' kernel, than he
> > released an updated version2.6.4-1.tmb.4mdk
>
> Well, I've now experimented with several kernels, and the one which
> works best so far is 2.6.4-1.tmb.3mdk - machine still doesn't
> actually switch off, but everything else seems pretty stable.
>
> Perhaps now is the time to look at the acpi and apic settings that
> Tony suggested. I've seen these mentioned in other threads, but
> mainly relating to laptops. Mine's a desktop machine.
>
> Are there any standard settings for acpi and apic for different
> types of machine, or is is just a question of trying various
> combinations until I find one that works?
>
> I know that the settings appear in the append line in lilo.conf, but
> is this where I actually edit them, or is there another file for the
> settings which transfers the details into lilo.conf?
>
> > Margot, the behavior you describe is probly a hardware or bios
> > configuration deficiency.  Specially if you close all
> > applications you don't want to start on the next boot,  open a
> > term and su to root, and type 'halt'. You might also experiment
> > with 'reboot'.  In any event, yes, you're probly OK to use the
> > power switch, particularly if you don't see any file system
> > warnings on the next boot.
> >
> > On an ATX motherboard, try either "4 sec delay" or "instant
> > off" bios settings to see if one works better than the other.
>
> Is ATX a brand name, or is it some sort of specification? Mine's a
> Shuttle Spacewalker MV42N - I don't want to start fiddling with bios
> settings until I have some idea of what I'm doing!
>
> Margot

This is probably no help, but just in case?
For no reason this machine would not shut off, in fact I had to use shutdown 
-h now as root. I could get it to work by changing the sessions, saving, then 
changing them back. But only once after the first reboot, then it went back 
to this behaviour.

In trying to get sound to work, I placed this line in my /etc/modules.conf 
which is called something different in 10.x 

options snd-via82xx index=0 dxs_support=2

Why this should effect the shutdown, I have no idea, but try some variations 
and it might just work?

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Re: [newbie] Re: slow modem start with kppp

2004-03-28 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:00 pm, many eyes viewed Russell Butler's words:-
> Charlie wrote:
> > On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:59 pm, many eyes viewed Russell Butler's words:-
> >
> >>Hello all
> >>Since a recent reinstall of ML9.1, there is a 60 second delay before the
> >>modem responds to the initial opening of the dialer. I have tried to
> >>adjust the sensible things in the modem setup, and after making
> >>adjustments it seems to work immediately, but then next time I try to
> >>log on I have to wait. Dial-up is bad enough, without a minutes
> >>thumb-twiddling before it dials.
> >>
> >>Any thoughts, please?
> >>
> >>Russell
> >
> > You may have to tweak your initialisation strings on the modem itself.
> > Bring the dialling speed back a bit from the default in dialling
> > commands, I use 45 and it works here in Oz, might even go faster. Don't
> > overdo it. Use the modem terminal in KPPP Oh sorry, is that
> > what you're using? If not, then please disregard.
> >
> > Charlie
>
> Thanks, Charlie, but it doesn't seem to be a dialling speed problem. If
> I have the KPPP log window open it shows an OK at the bottom, but waits
> the 60 seconds before delivering the ATZ to the modem, upon which
> dialling proceeds normally. The pre-init delay is shown as 30, which I
> think is 1/100ths of a second, so that should not be problem.
>
> My other problems were cured by deleting my old KPPP setup, but this
> persists.
>
> Russell

That is strange, I have two dial up modems, both external, when they are 
contacted through the setup window they start with OK at the top, but when 
connected in the KPPP log window I don't think they say OK, just start with 
ATZ and then dialling etc..

So there must be something grabbing your modem before it attempts to dial, and 
pauses it. This wouldn't be a delay of some kind from your ISP? Can't see 
why?

My Maestro modem, did have a memory which it built after several connections 
to maximise the line speed, and when the line was improved, it had to be 
deleted or it would always connect at the best possible speed which was 36000 
Kbps from the old line. I suppose that your modem doesn't have something like 
this, because obviously you didn't have this problem previously.

Sorry more I am unable to suggest, grasping at straws here.

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Re: [newbie] SCO goes after the *wrong* people.

2004-03-28 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:44:52 -0800
David E. Fox disseminated the following:

> > Hint for SCO: do not antagonize people who know how to build NUCLEAR
> > BOMBS.
> 
> For encores, when is SCO going to sue the Postal Service, the IRS, the
> CIA, and the Department of Defense / Homeland Security? Linux is
> certainly used in some of those facilities -- for sure at the Postal
> Service. And everyone who mailed a letter in the past year or two is
> potentially a user of Linux.

Somebody should plant a story that Ariel Sharon uses Linux, maybe Darl will sue
him and find an Apache gunship waiting for him as he goes to start his Porsche.

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[newbie] 10.0 update

2004-03-28 Thread Lee Wiggers
Just did two week worth of 10.0 updates without issue.

What a pleasant surprise.  Anyone need a mirror list?

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Re: [newbie] package name?

2004-03-28 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:27:23 -0500
Dave Steiner disseminated the following:

> I just installed Mdk on a new machine and I can't seem to remember what
> package it is that puts the server config page in Mandrake Control Center.

urpmi drakwizard

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Re: [newbie] Installing updates from Mandrake Online

2004-03-28 Thread Philip Cronje
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:29:42 +0100, Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It might be 
easier if you installed karamba instead of SuperKaramba.
Would *you* install something that didn't have the word "Super" in it's name?

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Re: [newbie] Installing updates from Mandrake Online

2004-03-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sunday 28 Mar 2004 15:19, Rory wrote:
> > You sure you have gcc installed?
>
> Well, I'll go one better than that - what's gcc??  :)  I installed Mandrake
> 10.0 - 3 discs.  So, I assumed it would have installed what I needed but it
> looks like I'm wrong.  Where can I find it?  One of the discs?  I'm taking
> a look now but don't see anything.
>
> Does installing the Mandrake RPM and the superkaramba program both need
> gcc?
>
> Thanks,
> ~Rory

gcc is the "GNU C Compiler" you cannot compile anything without it. It is on 
your CDs. Install with your Mandrake Software Install GUI.

You do not need gcc if you are installing a precompiled RPM.

If you have installed 10.0CE from the CDs then you might like to apply the 
updates. There are a whole bunch of them now. You do not need mdkonline 
installed to update your system. Just run the Mandrake Update GUI from your 
Mandrake Control Centre. The first time you run it, it will allow you to 
select an mirror.

>Okay, I just installed a tonne of stuff from development tools.  No luck.  
>Can 
>anyone recommend specific packages I should run to get this thing going?

Not unless you tell us what the error is.

It might be easier if you installed karamba instead of SuperKaramba.
There is a Mandrake RPM for Karamba in the contrib folder of the Mandrake 
mirrors. If you type in a root terminal
urpmi.addmedia contrib 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/stable/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2 
with ../base/hdlist2.cz

(that command is all 1 line)
Then you can install karamba using the Software Install GUI
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my signature.

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[newbie] package name?

2004-03-28 Thread Dave Steiner
I just installed Mdk on a new machine and I can't seem to remember what
package it is that puts the server config page in Mandrake Control Center.
Anyone know?

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Re: [newbie] 10 CE Shutdown

2004-03-28 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday 28 March 2004 07:28 am, Margot wrote:
> Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > On Thursday 25 March 2004 02:03 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> >>>http://www.iki.fi/tmb/Cooker/kernel-tmb-2.6.4-1.tmb.3mdk-1-1
> >>>m dk.i586.rpm
> >>>http://www.iki.fi/tmb/Cooker/kernel-tmb-2.6.4-1.tmb.3mdk-1-1
> >>>m dk.nosrc.rpm
> >>
> >>Well, some success... I managed to download and install the
> >> new kernel (without getting cut off this time), and the
> >> shutdown now goes past the original hang point, but now it
> >> gets to this:
> >>
> >>md: md0 switched to read-only mode.
> >>Power down.
> >>
> >>...but it doesn't actually switch off!
> >>
> >>I assume that it is safe to just hit the power switch at this
> >>point, but is there some setting I could change so it will
> >>switch off automatically?
> >>
> >>Margot
> >
> > No sooner did I post the link to Thomas' kernel, than he
> > released an updated version2.6.4-1.tmb.4mdk
>
> Well, I've now experimented with several kernels, and the one
> which works best so far is 2.6.4-1.tmb.3mdk - machine still
> doesn't actually switch off, but everything else seems pretty
> stable.
>
> Perhaps now is the time to look at the acpi and apic settings
> that Tony suggested. I've seen these mentioned in other
> threads, but mainly relating to laptops. Mine's a desktop
> machine.

 I believe the general trend with 2.4.x kernels would be to 
disable apic and/or acpi.  With 2.6.x and newer hardware, I 
believe it'll be to make sure they're both enabled.  The only 
exception to that I currently know of is nForce chipset systems 
which don't handle them properly.  You've got a VIA chipset which 
will.

> Are there any standard settings for acpi and apic for different
> types of machine, or is is just a question of trying various
> combinations until I find one that works?

 Yep, trial'n error
>
> I know that the settings appear in the append line in
> lilo.conf, but is this where I actually edit them, or is there
> another file for the settings which transfers the details into
> lilo.conf?

 No, edit lilo.conf, and try not to forget to run 'lilo' to 
write the changes before you reboot.  (we all do sometimes ;)

> > Margot, the behavior you describe is probly a hardware or
> > bios configuration deficiency.  Specially if you close all
> > applications you don't want to start on the next boot,  open
> > a term and su to root, and type 'halt'. You might also
> > experiment with 'reboot'.  In any event, yes, you're probly
> > OK to use the power switch, particularly if you don't see any
> > file system warnings on the next boot.
> >
> > On an ATX motherboard, try either "4 sec delay" or
> > "instant off" bios settings to see if one works better than
> > the other.
>
> Is ATX a brand name, or is it some sort of specification?
> Mine's a Shuttle Spacewalker MV42N - I don't want to start
> fiddling with bios settings until I have some idea of what I'm
> doing!
>
> Margot

A specification.  Your Shuttle is a micro ATX.  and the 
system is up to date enough, that I believe with 2.6.x kernels, 
you should (even need/want to) enable apic and acpi.  You do so 
by removing any 'noapic', 'nolapic', and 'acpi=off' (or acpi-=ht) 
from the 2.6.x kernel stanza in your lilo.conf.  These features 
are built into the kernel, no need to explicitly enable them.

With those option enabled, post the results of (should look 
somethin like mine):

 tom # cat /var/log/dmesg | grep -i acpi
 BIOS-e820: 1fffc000 - 1000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 1000 - 2000 (ACPI NVS)
ACPI: RSDP (v000 ASUS  ) @ 
0x000f62a0
ACPI: RSDT (v001 ASUS   A7V600   0x42302e31 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 
0x1fffc000
ACPI: FADT (v001 ASUS   A7V600   0x42302e31 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 
0x1fffc0b2
ACPI: BOOT (v001 ASUS   A7V600   0x42302e31 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 
0x1fffc030
ACPI: MADT (v001 ASUS   A7V600   0x42302e31 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 
0x1fffc058
ACPI: DSDT (v001   ASUS A7V600   0x1000 MSFT 0x010b) @ 
0x
ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee0
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] high edge lint[0x1])
ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec0] global_irq_base[0x0])
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl edge)
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 low level)
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0xe408
Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040311
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 *10 11 12)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 9 10 11 12)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *9 10 11 12)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [

Re: [newbie] Installing updates from Mandrake Online

2004-03-28 Thread Philip Cronje
> Well, I'll go one better than that - what's gcc??  :)
That's the GNU C compiler. You need it when you're building packages from source (like 
you're doing with Superkaramba).

> If you need some of those tools to install an RPM, shouldn't it be a
> required part of the install?
But remember, in this case you're not installing from an RPM -- you're compiling it 
from source.

> Okay, I just installed a tonne of stuff from development tools. No
> luck.  Can anyone recommend specific packages I should run to get this
> thing going?
Like someone else said: keep on running configure and installing packages as needed.

First up, install the gcc package. After doing that, keep on running configure until 
everything works and Superkaramba compiles. Usually if it (configure) bails out 
moaning about not finding a library or anything, it usually works to take the library 
name and add -devel to it to get the package's name.

Aren't there Superkaramba RPM's available for download? Or am I thinking about another 
project here?

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Re: [newbie] Installing updates from Mandrake Online

2004-03-28 Thread Paul
On 03/28/2004 05:05 PM, Rory wrote:

Okay, I just installed a tonne of stuff from development tools.  No luck.  Can 
anyone recommend specific packages I should run to get this thing going?
 

Additionally, if you cannot locate it that way, you can search by group 
-> development -> c and/or c++

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Re: [newbie] Installing updates from Mandrake Online

2004-03-28 Thread Paul
On 03/28/2004 05:05 PM, Rory wrote:

Okay, I just installed a tonne of stuff from development tools.  No luck.  Can 
anyone recommend specific packages I should run to get this thing going?
 

I am still on 9.1 but I checked anyway.
The gcc compiler is located in RPMs called gcc, e.g. 
gcc2.96 (with me). I guess there is a gcc3 on the 9.2 and 10.0 
disks. Fire up MCC, run RPMdrake / software installer and see if you can 
find anything called gcc.

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Re: [newbie] Fwd: How to downdate 10.0?

2004-03-28 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday 28 March 2004 04:54 am, Tango Echo wrote:
> > Unless I am mistaken here, it appears the cooker and
> > 10.0 update tree has forked.

You're mistaken. This hasn't occured yet. My conjecture? 
cooker 10.0 as of last Friday is probly 10.0 Official. I expect 
it to under go a week or two's testing, but with only 'show 
stopper' type updates, if any, released to stable or cooker.
(stable is currently just symlinked to cooker)

  Now here's the tricky part:
I suspect 'Official won't be announced publicly until about two 
weeks after Mandrake deems current cooker is ready to send to 
production. It takes about two weeks to produce the box sets. At 
that time the public announcement will be made, and Official will 
be available for d/l (torrent). I believe this is when 'stable' 
will fork from cooker.  So that's probly 3 to 4 weeks from now.

> > I was following the 
> > cooker update tree until last night.  Then I
> > realized
> > that there is a "stable" section as well as a 10.0
> > portion on Easy Urpmi.  No doubt I have installed
> > cooker packages.  

   Yep. If you installed 10.0-CE, you're running cooker 10.0. It 
doesn't matter whether you use cooker or stable sources to 
update. They are one and the same.

> > So of course I will receive 
> > "Everything installed" when I try to update to
> > stable
> > because it is older...  How do I downdate here? If I
> > do have some packages installed that are cooker
> > based
> > then I'd like to revert to stable.  I noticed last
> > night while gaming with a friend that both mdk boxes
> > were having minor stability issues...

   Which is why all the above is just you're misconceptions. 
Actually I'd suggest you continue to use cooker sources for about 
two weeks after Official is publicly announced and available for 
d/l.  You will then have the opportunity to get post Official 
updates (if any) while cooker is frozen and preparing for 10.1 
development.
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Re: [newbie] Installing updates from Mandrake Online

2004-03-28 Thread Rory
Okay, I just installed a tonne of stuff from development tools.  No luck.  Can 
anyone recommend specific packages I should run to get this thing going?

Thanks,
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Re: Signature Scripts (WAS: Re: [newbie] Steve's second question of the day. Time machine has been up)

2004-03-28 Thread Chuck Mattsen
On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 08:39, Todd Slater wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 06:22:33PM -0600, Chuck Mattsen wrote:
> > I managed to get mine working, including the tagline/'fortune' ... I can
> > still only use others' fortunes, however, as all attempts to compile my
> > own via the strfile command have failed, yielding just one big file
> > instead of individual taglines.  Not sure what's up with that, but
> > figuring that out is currently on my e-mail client "wish"/to-do list.
> > :-)
> 
> can you send me an attachment of your original text file that you run
> strfile on? I'll see if I can duplicate the error here.

Thanks ... I'll send you a copy of it off list (however, I suspect it's
a PEBKAC thing, as I tried to compile a .dat via strfile with just a few
taglines, and ended up with the same thing ... one large concatenated
tagline).

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Re: [newbie] Installing updates from Mandrake Online

2004-03-28 Thread Chuck Mattsen
On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 08:14, Derek Jennings wrote:
> > I /think/ this is a feature/service in development and not quite ready for
> > primetime, but I may be wrong.
> >
- snip ->8
> >
> > In any case, after installing, uploading my configuration and personal
> > data, the icon sits in the tray saying, "Service deactivated. Waiting for
> > payment."
> >
> > Supposedly a free service, but perhaps they forgot?  :-)
> 
> It installs OK for me. The first computer is free, but you have to pay for 
> additional machines. If you have used it before with a different name for 
> your computer then that would explain why it says you must pay. A visit to 
> mandrakeonline.com  would allow you to check that.

Nope, haven't used it before, and only have one computer registered.
Mandrakeonline.com doesn't show anything different than that. 
Interestingly, the "welcome" message received after registration gives
[EMAIL PROTECTED] as the contact address, but any e-mail to
that address is returned with an autoresponse of "This alias is not read
anymore."

> The service does not seem to be operational yet. I think it is checking the 
> update servers which do not show any updates yet. At the moment all 
> enchancements to 10.0 are going into mandrale-devel/stable

That's my impression, as well, and I didn't expect any updates to be out
there at this point, but am questioning the "Waiting for payment" status
I ended up with.

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Re: [newbie] Installing updates from Mandrake Online

2004-03-28 Thread Rory
Okay, I installed the Mandrake recommended development tools first.  Didn't do 
the trick.  Then I went back and installed the rest of the package, which 
didn't have any sub-group options long (save a choice between sendmail and 
something else), as the first install must of take care of that.

So, I think I'm back on the right track.  Thanks!  

On install, I seem to remember a choice for installing development tools and I 
didn't select it as I thought it was specifically for developers.  If you 
need some of those tools to install an RPM, shouldn't it be a required part 
of the install?

Rory


On Sunday 28 March 2004 9:28 am, Rory wrote:
> Okay, I'm looking through the development tools right now.  I was just
> going to install the whole package, but a number of them give you a choice
> of which tool for a sub-group.
>
> Any suggestions?  I must have missed an option during install, I guess.
>
> R.
>
> On Sunday 28 March 2004 9:19 am, Rory wrote:
> > here can I find it?  One of the discs?  I'm taking a
> > look now but don't see

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Re: Signature Scripts (WAS: Re: [newbie] Steve's second question of the day. Time machine has been up)

2004-03-28 Thread Todd Slater
On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 06:22:33PM -0600, Chuck Mattsen wrote:
> I managed to get mine working, including the tagline/'fortune' ... I can
> still only use others' fortunes, however, as all attempts to compile my
> own via the strfile command have failed, yielding just one big file
> instead of individual taglines.  Not sure what's up with that, but
> figuring that out is currently on my e-mail client "wish"/to-do list.
> :-)

can you send me an attachment of your original text file that you run
strfile on? I'll see if I can duplicate the error here.

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Re: [newbie] Installing updates from Mandrake Online

2004-03-28 Thread Rory
Okay, I'm looking through the development tools right now.  I was just going 
to install the whole package, but a number of them give you a choice of which 
tool for a sub-group.

Any suggestions?  I must have missed an option during install, I guess.

R.


On Sunday 28 March 2004 9:19 am, Rory wrote:
> here can I find it?  One of the discs?  I'm taking a
> look now but don't see

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Re: [newbie] Installing updates from Mandrake Online

2004-03-28 Thread Rory
> You sure you have gcc installed?

Well, I'll go one better than that - what's gcc??  :)  I installed Mandrake 
10.0 - 3 discs.  So, I assumed it would have installed what I needed but it 
looks like I'm wrong.  Where can I find it?  One of the discs?  I'm taking a 
look now but don't see anything.  

Does installing the Mandrake RPM and the superkaramba program both need gcc?

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] Installing updates from Mandrake Online

2004-03-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sunday 28 Mar 2004 13:52, Chuck Mattsen wrote:
> [un-hijacking the thread and starting anew here...]
>
> On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 05:00, Rory wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I hope this question is appropriate for this list.
> >
> > I'm trying to install the Mandrake Online Wizard found at:
> > https://www.mandrakeonline.net/index.php
> >
> > couple of questions?
> > I'm assuming this will allow automatic on-line updates for Mandrake?  I
> > only ask this as I assumed that such a feature would just be bundled. 
> > Or, is this just an updated version of "Mandrake Update" (which never
> > works properly, due to server load, I assume.)
> >
> > I tried installing the four files by saving to disk, right-clicking on
> > each one and choosing "software installation."
> >
> > However, during the process for each one I got the following error:
> > "Some package requested cannot be installed:
> > mdkonline-1.0-0.6mdk.noarch (due to unsatisfied perl(Gtk2::TrayIcon))"
> >
> > Does any know why?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rory
>
> I /think/ this is a feature/service in development and not quite ready for
> primetime, but I may be wrong.
>
> But, what the hey ... I went and grabbed the installer (clicked on the link
> for 10.0 in the right-hand column), and it installed the required
> perl/TrayIcon module, so not sure why your install was crapping out.
>
> In any case, after installing, uploading my configuration and personal
> data, the icon sits in the tray saying, "Service deactivated. Waiting for
> payment."
>
> Supposedly a free service, but perhaps they forgot?  :-)

It installs OK for me. The first computer is free, but you have to pay for 
additional machines. If you have used it before with a different name for 
your computer then that would explain why it says you must pay. A visit to 
mandrakeonline.com  would allow you to check that.

The service does not seem to be operational yet. I think it is checking the 
update servers which do not show any updates yet. At the moment all 
enchancements to 10.0 are going into mandrale-devel/stable

As for the oroginal poster. What version of Mandrake are you using? If it is 
not 10.0, then that might explain why it cannot find the required dependency.
You need to install the version of mdkonline appropriate for your release.


>I've been also trying to install superkaramba and get stopped at ./configure 
>with the following error:
>no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
>
That is saying you do not have the gcc compiler installed.  You are also 
likely to get many other errors once you install gcc and you rin ./configure 
again.
 Each time you get an error read the message and use urpmf  to find the 
package containg the missing file (see 'man urpmf ) and install it.
If you install the entire 'development' group of packages using your Software 
Installer, then most of the packages you need will be installed.

derek


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Re: [newbie] Installing updates from Mandrake Online

2004-03-28 Thread Philip Cronje
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:44:12 -0500, Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been also trying to install superkaramba and get stopped at ./configure 
> with the following error:
> no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
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[newbie] The value of Multimedia and TMB kernels

2004-03-28 Thread Lanman
Hey Group;

Can someone explain what use these extra kernels are? I've only found 
minimal info about these, and nothing that specifically states what 
makes them better than the original kernels. I see terms like 
"preemptive patching" and "low-latency" mentioned often, but no actual 
explanations about what these kernels would do on a normal PC. Is there 
any value to installing these kernels on a conventional system?

My take on the multimedia kernel is that it should be faster at opening 
new applications than the stock 2.6.3 kernel, and there should be less 
lag time (latency) or delays when doing certain jobs, but none of that 
is explicitly explained. I'd appreciate a bit of info on this.

Thanks in advance

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Re: [newbie] Installing updates from Mandrake Online

2004-03-28 Thread Rory
Hmm... interesting...  I keep getting error.  At least it's working for 
someone:
"Some package requested cannot be installed:
mdkonline-1.0-0.6mdk.noarch (due to unsatisfied perl(Gtk2::TrayIcon))"

The file says owner: rory  group: rory
Could this be a privilege/access issue I'm having?

I've been also trying to install superkaramba and get stopped at ./configure 
with the following error:
no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH

I'm wondering if these two issues are related...

Rory



On Sunday 28 March 2004 7:52 am, Chuck Mattsen wrote:
> [un-hijacking the thread and starting anew here...]
>
> On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 05:00, Rory wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I hope this question is appropriate for this list.
> >
> > I'm trying to install the Mandrake Online Wizard found at:
> > https://www.mandrakeonline.net/index.php
> >
> > couple of questions?
> > I'm assuming this will allow automatic on-line updates for Mandrake?  I
> > only ask this as I assumed that such a feature would just be bundled. 
> > Or, is this just an updated version of "Mandrake Update" (which never
> > works properly, due to server load, I assume.)
> >
> > I tried installing the four files by saving to disk, right-clicking on
> > each one and choosing "software installation."
> >
> > However, during the process for each one I got the following error:
> > "Some package requested cannot be installed:
> > mdkonline-1.0-0.6mdk.noarch (due to unsatisfied perl(Gtk2::TrayIcon))"
> >
> > Does any know why?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rory
>
> I /think/ this is a feature/service in development and not quite ready for
> primetime, but I may be wrong.
>
> But, what the hey ... I went and grabbed the installer (clicked on the link
> for 10.0 in the right-hand column), and it installed the required
> perl/TrayIcon module, so not sure why your install was crapping out.
>
> In any case, after installing, uploading my configuration and personal
> data, the icon sits in the tray saying, "Service deactivated. Waiting for
> payment."
>
> Supposedly a free service, but perhaps they forgot?  :-)

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Re: [newbie] 10 CE Shutdown

2004-03-28 Thread Margot
Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Thursday 25 March 2004 02:03 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:

http://www.iki.fi/tmb/Cooker/kernel-tmb-2.6.4-1.tmb.3mdk-1-1m
dk.i586.rpm
http://www.iki.fi/tmb/Cooker/kernel-tmb-2.6.4-1.tmb.3mdk-1-1m
dk.nosrc.rpm
Well, some success... I managed to download and install the new
kernel (without getting cut off this time), and the shutdown
now goes past the original hang point, but now it gets to this:
md: md0 switched to read-only mode.
Power down.
...but it doesn't actually switch off!

I assume that it is safe to just hit the power switch at this
point, but is there some setting I could change so it will
switch off automatically?
Margot


No sooner did I post the link to Thomas' kernel, than he 
released an updated version2.6.4-1.tmb.4mdk

Well, I've now experimented with several kernels, and the one which 
works best so far is 2.6.4-1.tmb.3mdk - machine still doesn't 
actually switch off, but everything else seems pretty stable.

Perhaps now is the time to look at the acpi and apic settings that 
Tony suggested. I've seen these mentioned in other threads, but 
mainly relating to laptops. Mine's a desktop machine.

Are there any standard settings for acpi and apic for different 
types of machine, or is is just a question of trying various 
combinations until I find one that works?

I know that the settings appear in the append line in lilo.conf, but 
is this where I actually edit them, or is there another file for the 
settings which transfers the details into lilo.conf?

Margot, the behavior you describe is probly a hardware or bios 
configuration deficiency.  Specially if you close all  
applications you don't want to start on the next boot,  open a 
term and su to root, and type 'halt'. You might also experiment 
with 'reboot'.  In any event, yes, you're probly OK to use the 
power switch, particularly if you don't see any file system 
warnings on the next boot.

On an ATX motherboard, try either "4 sec delay" or "instant 
off" bios settings to see if one works better than the other.
Is ATX a brand name, or is it some sort of specification? Mine's a 
Shuttle Spacewalker MV42N - I don't want to start fiddling with bios 
settings until I have some idea of what I'm doing!

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Re: Signature Scripts (WAS: Re: [newbie] Steve's second question of the day. Time machine has been up)

2004-03-28 Thread Steve Kaurfman




Chuck Mattsen wrote:

  Resurrecting an old thread here ...

On Sat, 2004-02-21 at 14:33, Charlie Mahan wrote:
  
  
Here's a slightly different way to get the "running Mandrake..." blah blah:

 #bin bash
 echo "Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org"
 echo `cat /etc/mandrake-release` kernel "`uname -r`"
 echo `uptime`
 echo "`/usr/games/fortune -s`"

The second line (cat /etc/mandrake-release kernel uname -r) generates the 
second line below. The next line generates the uptime stamp, the last line 
generates the last line(s) a.k.a.; the "short" (the -s flag) Fortune cookie.

I should add a tag to the end of that second line;

"On a 6 year old stone axe" 

Regards;
Charlie
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13:26:32 up 1 day, 1:45, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.10, 0.19
Vegetarians beware!  You are what you eat.

  
  
Okay, I /think/ my problems with this are related to my use of Ximian
Evolution as an e-mail client -- which, if I understand correctly,
assumes all signatures are in HTML format for insertion purposes.

Therefore, with the following script ...
  #bin bash
  echo "Chuck Mattsen ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Mahnomen, MN"
  echo "Registered Linux User #346519"
  echo `cat /etc/mandrake-release` kernel "`uname -r`"
  echo `uptime`

everything gets "mooshed" together, as below.

Any suggestions on how to get some line formatting in there?


Chuck Mattsen ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Mahnomen, MN Registered
Linux User #346519 Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Community) for i586
kernel 2.6.3-4mdk 09:56:22 up 6:59, 1 user, load average: 0.28, 0.24,
0.15


  
  


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Well I finally got the time to mess with this last night after getting
Thunderbird to work on both my windoze and MD systems. It now shares
the folders correctly and I can read my emails from either side.

So as you can see below I did it. To make this work in TB I had to run
it from cron (which I set up to do every minute) and the output of the
command goes to a signature.txt file.

On quick question if you please. Being very new at this ... For corn to
execute something every five minutes is it necessary to have the first
parm be 0,5,10,15,20 etc or is there another trick to this?


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Re: [newbie] Installing updates from Mandrake Online

2004-03-28 Thread Chuck Mattsen
[un-hijacking the thread and starting anew here...]

On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 05:00, Rory wrote: 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I hope this question is appropriate for this list.
> 
> I'm trying to install the Mandrake Online Wizard found at:
> https://www.mandrakeonline.net/index.php
> 
> couple of questions?
> I'm assuming this will allow automatic on-line updates for Mandrake?  I only 
> ask this as I assumed that such a feature would just be bundled.  Or, is this 
> just an updated version of "Mandrake Update" (which never works properly, due 
> to server load, I assume.)
> 
> I tried installing the four files by saving to disk, right-clicking on each 
> one and choosing "software installation."  
> 
> However, during the process for each one I got the following error:
> "Some package requested cannot be installed:
> mdkonline-1.0-0.6mdk.noarch (due to unsatisfied perl(Gtk2::TrayIcon))"
> 
> Does any know why?
> 
> Thanks,
> Rory

I /think/ this is a feature/service in development and not quite ready for primetime, 
but I may be wrong.

But, what the hey ... I went and grabbed the installer (clicked on the link for 10.0 
in the right-hand column), and it installed the required perl/TrayIcon module, so not 
sure why your install was crapping out.

In any case, after installing, uploading my configuration and personal data, the icon 
sits in the tray saying, "Service deactivated. Waiting for payment."

Supposedly a free service, but perhaps they forgot?  :-)
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Re: [newbie] Route Default

2004-03-28 Thread Philip Cronje
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:17:48 +0700, Budhi Astiyadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> How can I set default route in my machine to be modem connection?
> I am confused to read man page.
> TIA.
I don't know how you'd do this with KPPP or any of those graphical PPP frontends, but 
the real way to do it is to add a "defaultroute" line to your /etc/ppp/options file.
If you're using a frontend, you should look around for some place where you can 
specify options for the pppd daemon.


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[newbie] Route Default

2004-03-28 Thread Budhi Astiyadi
Hi,

How can I set default route in my machine to be modem connection?
I am confused to read man page.
TIA.

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[newbie] Fonts annoyance

2004-03-28 Thread Adolfo Bello
I don't know if this is the right list to post this problem.

I am using KDE under Mandrake 10, kernel 2.6.3.

A few days ago my laptop was shutdown improperly (a power lost). After
that, every time X is started the fonts in Evolution, Mozilla and some
other applications are pretty small, let's say something like 6/7
points.

After googling for a solution I found out that starting
"gnome-control-center" and double clicking on Fonts everything was back
to normal. Further research pointed to gnome-settings-daemon as being
the program to run to get the fonts looking nice.

This is not a major problem because my computer stays up and running
after I started it in the morning and I just need to start gnomecc once
a day but, is there any way to get the original behavior?

Thanks in advance.

Adolfo




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[newbie] Installing updates from Mandrake Online

2004-03-28 Thread Rory
Hi folks,

I hope this question is appropriate for this list.

I'm trying to install the Mandrake Online Wizard found at:
https://www.mandrakeonline.net/index.php

couple of questions?
I'm assuming this will allow automatic on-line updates for Mandrake?  I only 
ask this as I assumed that such a feature would just be bundled.  Or, is this 
just an updated version of "Mandrake Update" (which never works properly, due 
to server load, I assume.)

I tried installing the four files by saving to disk, right-clicking on each 
one and choosing "software installation."  

However, during the process for each one I got the following error:
"Some package requested cannot be installed:
mdkonline-1.0-0.6mdk.noarch (due to unsatisfied perl(Gtk2::TrayIcon))"

Does any know why?

Thanks,
Rory


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RE: [newbie] Monitor Resolution & Refresh Rates

2004-03-28 Thread Beavers, Randy W.






 Thanks John !









-Original Message-
From: John A. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Monitor Resolution & Refresh Rates

you probably won't be able to fix the problem with Mandrake Move, if 
you're booting of the cd. You have to change the XF86config-4 file in 
the /etc/X11 directory. If you're running Mandrake move to just test 
hardware compatibility, you'll be able to fix this problem one Mandrake 
is fully installed. If X didn't start at all, that would be a bigger 
problem.

-john smith



Beavers, Randy W. wrote:

>All,
>
>How do I tell the "Monitor" to change Screen
>Resolution & Refresh Rates? It's stuck at 640x480.
>
>I'am looking at a big desktop through a little window.
>That I push around with mouse.
> 
>Running MandrakeMove on a Dell P4 MM doesn't have drivers 
>for the Intel 82865gG graghics card, but all the Intel drivers
>doing the same thing. MM has the right monitor.
>
>
>  Thanks  
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
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[newbie] Fwd: How to downdate 10.0?

2004-03-28 Thread Tango Echo
Hey all.  Sorry if this is a repost but I sent this
message to the list and never saw it appear... Were
there any replies?


--- Tango Echo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 06:55:45 -0800 (PST)
> From: Tango Echo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: How to downdate 10.0?
> To: newb-mdk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Unless I am mistaken here, it appears the cooker and
> 10.0 update tree has forked.  I was following the
> cooker update tree until last night.  Then I
> realized
> that there is a "stable" section as well as a 10.0
> portion on Easy Urpmi.  No doubt I have installed
> cooker packages.  So of course I will receive
> "Everything installed" when I try to update to
> stable
> because it is older...  How do I downdate here? If I
> do have some packages installed that are cooker
> based
> then I'd like to revert to stable.  I noticed last
> night while gaming with a friend that both mdk boxes
> were having minor stability issues...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tange Echo
> 
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[newbie] Re: slow modem start with kppp

2004-03-28 Thread Russell Butler
Charlie wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:59 pm, many eyes viewed Russell Butler's words:-

Hello all
Since a recent reinstall of ML9.1, there is a 60 second delay before the
modem responds to the initial opening of the dialer. I have tried to
adjust the sensible things in the modem setup, and after making
adjustments it seems to work immediately, but then next time I try to
log on I have to wait. Dial-up is bad enough, without a minutes
thumb-twiddling before it dials.
Any thoughts, please?

Russell


You may have to tweak your initialisation strings on the modem itself. Bring 
the dialling speed back a bit from the default in dialling commands, I use 45 
and it works here in Oz, might even go faster. Don't overdo it. Use the modem 
terminal in KPPP Oh sorry, is that what you're using? If not, 
then please disregard. 

Charlie
Thanks, Charlie, but it doesn't seem to be a dialling speed problem. If 
I have the KPPP log window open it shows an OK at the bottom, but waits 
the 60 seconds before delivering the ATZ to the modem, upon which 
dialling proceeds normally. The pre-init delay is shown as 30, which I 
think is 1/100ths of a second, so that should not be problem.

My other problems were cured by deleting my old KPPP setup, but this 
persists.

Russell



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