Re: [newbie] Won't boot up now.

2004-04-01 Thread Frank
Just shove in your Community disc and elect 'update"

Be sure to study any chance you get partition, er. formating! [ I 
mean, think carefully of what it is you need at the end of the day

Enjoy

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Bill wrote:

I changed the settings on my monitor configuration last night, and
my screen resolution. I also formated, I though, 7M that was
vacant on the hard drive. Now my machine won't boot up, it shows a
failure, and when I try to fix it, it fails the fix, and sends me
back into a reboot that takes me back in a circle.
Where am I going wrong? Do I just need to reload? I am running
Mandrake 9.2 and I just got my 10.0 Community discs in. I wonder
if it would just be easier to reload with 10.
 

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 01 April 2004 02:08 pm, rikona wrote:
> Hello Bryan,
>
> Thursday, April 1, 2004, 12:35:45 PM, you wrote:
>
> BP> On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> >> I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing as
> >> you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again.  After
> >> all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.
>
> BP> Nostalgia.  Try going back to DOS.
>
> How about cp/m?
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Re: [newbie] Evidence of the Superior Intelligence of Canadians ;-)

2004-04-01 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 01 April 2004 11:20 am, Margot wrote:
> Lanman wrote:
> > JoeHill wrote:
> >> On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 07:38:56 -0600
> >> Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following:
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>> Does this mean if you (or your countrymen) disrespect anyone that the
> >>> party disrespected can laugh at you.
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >> Before this degenerates...I don't think Fajar was laughing _at_
> >> Canadians, I
> >> think (correct me if I'm wrong here Fajar) he was laughing _with_
> >> Canadians, at
> >> the expense of the Recording Industry greedheads. Now, as far as
> >> laughing at
> >> Canadians, well, there are plenty of other reasons for that... ;-)
> >
> > I'm not sure how he meant it Joe, but I can see where that might be his
> > meaning. If I spoke too soon, I apologize. That's the problem with
> > written or typed info. You can't hear the writer, and his/her tone of
> > voice when it was written. Hmmm Voice-Email. That's an idea.
> >
> > Lanman
>
> We already have those in the UK - ahead of the world as usual ;-)
> ...we call them "telephones".
Sometimes I wish that Don Amenche had never invented the thing ;-^)
>
> Margot


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Re: [newbie] Run remote gnome-session on local gnome

2004-04-01 Thread Guy Rouillier
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 00:35:22 -0500
Guy Rouillier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:18:43 +0200
> Alaa The Great <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:23:36 -0500
> > Guy Rouillier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Under Windows, I can run cygwin and create a X session running in
> > > a single window, inside which I can run gnome-session on a remote
> > > Linux.
> > >  I like that usage model.  I know about and have used vnc, but I
> > >  prefer do the remote X thing.  Is it possible to do the same
> > >  thing while running gnome on my local Linux system?  I tried
> > >  simply ssh-X-l into a remote box and simply firing up
> > >  gnome-session, and gnome actually came up, but it got upset that
> > >  I was already running a window manager, and got totally confused
> > >  since I had two panels. I had to exit X completely to get it
> > >  reset.
> > > 
> > > I haven't found a way to confine a remote gnome-session to a
> > > single window under Linux.  Appreciate any pointers.
> > 
> > use Xnest, the nested X server which gives you an X session in a
> > window.
> > 
> > urpmi XFree-Xnest
> 
> Alaa, thanks very much, this looks like what I'm looking for.  I'm
> having a little trouble getting started.  Following directions in the
> man pages, I simply started Xnest with "Xnest :1&".  I got the
> following when I did this:
> 
> _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
> _XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/emach-mdk64:1
> _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for
> inet6 Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,
> removing from list!
> 
> The window came up, but when I then try to do "xterm -display :1" it
> says:
> 
> AUDIT: Fri Apr  2 00:29:49 2004: 11711 Xnest: client 1 rejected from
> local host Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server
> Xlib: No protocol specified
>  
> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :1
> 
> Could you provide a suggestion on what to do next?  Don't know if this
> matters, but the hostname "emach-mdk64" is made up - I just put it in
> /etc/hosts as an alias for localhost.

Never mind, extensive mining on the web produced the -ac option. 
Thanks, Xnest is indeed what I wanted.

> 
> 
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> 
> 


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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:50 am, Lanman wrote:
> Aron Smith wrote:
> > On Thursday 01 April 2004 05:26 am, Lanman wrote:
> >>LtCdData wrote:
> >>>as i emailed my lawyer just the day about how easy linux is
> >>> "try this simple test...
> >>>point a torch at one ear and switch on.
> >>>if the light shines straight through then linux is not for you"
> >>
> >>Hmmm, I wonder if we could make that a standard aptitude test for ALL
> >>lawyers? Hey! Wait a minute! Aren't most politicans also lawyers? H
> >>! You just might have something there! Grin!
> >
> > Naw some of them are too dense for the light to shine thru ;-)
> >
> >>Lanman
>
> Dude, When you're right, You're right !
>
> I seem to have misunderstood something though. When LtCdData used the
> word torch, I didn't realize that he meant "flashlight", instead of a
> "Device that emits flame under pressure for the purpose of,..." kind of
> torch ! That's what I thought he meant ! OOps! Good idea, but I like my
> torch better than his. LOL!
Oh Oxy-Acyteleyne that works:-D
>
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[newbie] Sound Card Problem

2004-04-01 Thread James McDaniel



I recently installed mandrake 10.0 on a dell 
dimension 4100.
 
I replace the crap sound card they packaged with 
the box with a soundblaster live! mp3 (not the 5.1).
 
after I installed Mandrake and started KDE the 
sound card when nuts and then just started make a high pitched squeal.  It 
never stopped.  I had to turn off the speakers.
 
help?
 
j.


Re: [newbie] Power outage

2004-04-01 Thread Charlie
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:28 am, many eyes viewed Dave Ashmore's words:-
> OK, quick question.
> When I get an unclean shutdown like say a power outage.
> When unattended of course I'm not here to press Y to run file system check.
> How can this be set to automatically run when it encounters an unclean
> shutdown?
> Thanks
> Dave Ashmore

Why do you want to press Y? Don't you trust the system to fix itself? Because 
believe me, it will if you don't interfere. So if you get a unclean shutdown, 
just reboot and walk away so that you don't press Y.

Charlie

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Re: [newbie] Run remote gnome-session on local gnome

2004-04-01 Thread Guy Rouillier
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:18:43 +0200
Alaa The Great <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:23:36 -0500
> Guy Rouillier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Under Windows, I can run cygwin and create a X session running in a
> > single window, inside which I can run gnome-session on a remote
> > Linux.
> >  I like that usage model.  I know about and have used vnc, but I
> >  prefer do the remote X thing.  Is it possible to do the same thing
> >  while running gnome on my local Linux system?  I tried simply ssh
> >  -X-l into a remote box and simply firing up gnome-session, and
> >  gnome actually came up, but it got upset that I was already running
> >  a window manager, and got totally confused since I had two panels. 
> >  I had to exit X completely to get it reset.
> > 
> > I haven't found a way to confine a remote gnome-session to a single
> > window under Linux.  Appreciate any pointers.
> 
> use Xnest, the nested X server which gives you an X session in a
> window.
> 
> urpmi XFree-Xnest

Alaa, thanks very much, this looks like what I'm looking for.  I'm
having a little trouble getting started.  Following directions in the
man pages, I simply started Xnest with "Xnest :1&".  I got the following
when I did this:

_XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
_XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/emach-mdk64:1
_XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing
from list!

The window came up, but when I then try to do "xterm -display :1" it
says:

AUDIT: Fri Apr  2 00:29:49 2004: 11711 Xnest: client 1 rejected from
local host Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified
 
xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :1

Could you provide a suggestion on what to do next?  Don't know if this
matters, but the hostname "emach-mdk64" is made up - I just put it in
/etc/hosts as an alias for localhost.


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[newbie] Post 2.6.4 compile issue

2004-04-01 Thread Tom
I just compiled 2.6.4 under 10CE and cannot get it to boot.  It stalls 
at the startup right after the message saying that the bzImage has been 
uncompressed.  I did remove APM from the kernel config because I was 
getting a return error relating to it after running 'make', if that 
helps. Any insight into how to get it running would be appreciated.
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Re: [newbie] How to kill printer queu (again)?

2004-04-01 Thread Paul
On 04/02/2004 02:20 AM, Marco Verheul wrote:

I'm terribly sorry, but it seems I accidently trashed your answers on
how to kill the printer queu :-/ I think I remember that John, Paul and
Anne (and maybe Stephen?) send me a reply. I would be most thankfull if
you could send it again. I'll try to be more carefull with the big old
trashbutton over here
 

Cups and Printing nonstop garbage

From: Till Kamppeter 
Subject: Re: [newbie] Cups and Printing nonstop garbage 
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 05:27:35 -0800 

 Do the following:

 Check whether there are jobs in the queue and kill them:

 On the command line enter

lpstat -o

 If there is any output, do either

cancel -a 

 to kill all jobs or

cancel 

 to kill one particular job.

 With "kups" click on the "Jobs" tab and right-click on a job entry. In
 the pop-up menu you will find commands to kill the chosen or all jobs
 for this printer.
 If this does not stop the printing, do a

killall -9 parallel

 as "root".

 If there are broken, unkillable jobs, clean up the spool directories:

service cups stop
rm -f /var/spool/cups/* /var/spool/cups/tmp/*
killall -9 parallel
service cups start
 Now the printer should have stopped.

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[newbie] xinetd error

2004-04-01 Thread Chris
Would someone be kind enough to explain this error to me?

Apr  1 20:20:45 chris xinetd[27560]: warning: can't get client address: 
Transport endpoint is not connected

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[newbie] good and bad news mandrakesoft security.

2004-04-01 Thread frankieh
Thought this might be an interesting read to some of you.

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1557749,00.asp



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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 22:58, Marv Boyes wrote:
> How many chances do you propose a sane person give Windows? My own 
> "precious" computer was rendered _inoperative_ by Windows; no number of 
> clean reinstalls would fix it.
> 
No, I wouldn't propose it seriously, Marv. That's why I installed 9.2
for a friend some weeks ago. I have just talked to him over the phone
because he needed some help to do some things. He is not the computer
type and is enjoying everything: robustness, stability, no viruses, no
programmes performing illegal operations, etc, etc, etc.

If you read the whole thread you'll see I was joking because it's April
the 1st (it still is here where I live).

Be in peace !

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Marv Boyes
Josenildo Marques wrote:

I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also 
come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux 
experience is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm 
feeling so much better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of 
advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
 
How many chances do you propose a sane person give Windows? My own 
"precious" computer was rendered _inoperative_ by Windows; no number of 
clean reinstalls would fix it.

Look at the enourmous after-market industry which has sprung up to 
produce software which serves no other purpose than to make Windows work 
the way it should, or to provide simple, common-sense functionality for 
which no informed person would ever pay extra-- who, for example, would 
buy a new car knowing full well that the entire exhaust system would 
have to be replaced within a month? Windows won't even properly 
defragment its own filesystem, for crying out loud-- and very few 
affordable third-party applications do a much better job.

You know, in the midst of trying to get Windows to work again, I picked 
up a troubleshooting guide published by Microsoft themselves. In this 
book, it was clearly stated that Windows is inherently unstable and 
will, over time, deterriorate to the point that a clean reinstall is 
inevitable. Nobody should have to lose or even interrupt their work for 
this kind of shoddy workmanship.

It came down to simple mathematics for me-- US$69.00 for a complete, 
stable OS accompanied by the functional equivalent of thousands of 
dollars' worth of commercial software, versus US$100.00 for an UPGRADE 
to the most bloated, dumbed-down, shambling, sluggardly heap of 
bloatware ever foisted upon the computing public. The choice was clear.

Sorry your experience was so negative. Linux isn't for everybody. But 
calling upon others who've had the patience and commitment to both make 
Linux work and to contribute to the system's rapidly-growing user base 
to simply give up because of your "disappointing and frustrating" 
experience is in poor taste. I'd be curious to know how many of us, when 
we finally left Microsoft behind, stormed the Windows e-mail lists and 
posted flamebait there?

Whatever. Have fun downloading your "service packs" (i.e., patches for 
alpha-level bugs and stupid oversights) and paying to protect yourself 
from the next round of e-mail malware.

> "I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer..."

Good on you. See to it that you erase this list from your address book, 
as well.

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Re: [newbie] Playing DVDs in Mandrake 9.2

2004-04-01 Thread yankl
On Thursday 01 April 2004 20:18, Travis Crook wrote:
> Hi all,
>   I am having a hard time playing DVDs.  I can put in a DVD and open
> Totem (or Xine).  It will start to play and will even give me the
> correct title of the DVD.  Then I get an error stating: "The movie
> 'Error reading NAV packet.' could not be read."  Does anyone know what
> this means?
>
> Thanks!

check http://www.via.ecp.fr/via/ml/vlc-devel/200106/msg00040.html for nav 
packets information.

Try to use Ogle as DVD player.

It is on plf.
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Re: [newbie] Accessing Secure Webpages" PROBLEM UPDATE

2004-04-01 Thread taylord-angwyn
on Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:07:37 -0400
Adolfo Bello wrote

> have you checked the quality of your phone line/modem

yes, these are fine

> Something simple, like an ifconfig, will tell you how many
packets are 
> dropped during a session

Last night whilst trying to connect to my isp's webpage I
ran /sbin/ifconfig to check 
on dropped packages. Following is a sample of the RX/TX
packet lines that showed up:

RX Pockets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX pockets:1161 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0

So dropped packets don't seem to be the problem. However, i
noticed in your
/sbin/ifconfig you showed a Bcast address of
255.255.255.255, my Bcast address
is shown as 192.168.1.255. Is this a factor in this
problem???

FWIW - I beleive that my smtp problem is connected to this
https one as they appeared at the same time.

David
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Re: [newbie] Power outage

2004-04-01 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 01 April 2004 07:28 pm, Dave Ashmore wrote:
> OK, quick question.
> When I get an unclean shutdown like say a power outage.
> When unattended of course I'm not here to press Y to run file system check.
> How can this be set to automatically run when it encounters an unclean
> shutdown?
> Thanks
> Dave Ashmore

Well, if you are using a journaled file system like ext3 or reiserfs, there is 
no need to run the filesystem check, so it is safe to let it time out and 
continue to boot.  The filesystem check is only really necessary on ext2 
partitions.  Which are you using?
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread David Williams
Sounds like an April Fools Joke to me.

On Thursday 01 April 2004 07:48 am, Tobias Cloete wrote:
> That's your choice.
>
> I love OpenSouce and I run 3 pc's at home with Linux installed on all of
> them at work 2. I'm the only linux guy here and love to be different.
>
> Linux is my desktop and Windows just cracks me up!
>
>
>
> Btw. His is a Technical list, not a flaming one. Please keep you opinion
> to yourself
>
>
>
> ~Jargon
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Josenildo Marques [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 April 2004 02:16 PM
> To: newbie
> Subject: [newbie] back to the good old Windows
>
>
>
> I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also
> come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience
> is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much
> better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same.
> Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.

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Re: [newbie] Accessing Secure Webpages: PROBLEM UPDATE

2004-04-01 Thread taylord-angwyn
on Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:24:12 -0500
Bryan Phinney wrote

> This may sound elementary but are you running a firewall
package

No, I'm not running any type of firewall

> have you closed off port 443 .

If port 443 is closed then it did it by itself. How do I
check if it is closed
or not. Details instructions [talk to me like I'm a 5 yo. 
=P) ]on how to check this would be appreciated.

David
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[newbie] Playing DVDs in Mandrake 9.2

2004-04-01 Thread Travis Crook
Hi all,
I am having a hard time playing DVDs.  I can put in a DVD and open
Totem (or Xine).  It will start to play and will even give me the
correct title of the DVD.  Then I get an error stating: "The movie
'Error reading NAV packet.' could not be read."  Does anyone know what
this means?

Thanks!

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[newbie] Power outage

2004-04-01 Thread Dave Ashmore
OK, quick question.
When I get an unclean shutdown like say a power outage.
When unattended of course I'm not here to press Y to run file system check.
How can this be set to automatically run when it encounters an unclean 
shutdown?
Thanks
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Re: [newbie] Search for MPlayerplugin-0.95

2004-04-01 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Thursday 01 April 2004 16:28, you wrote:
> On Thursday 01 April 2004 11:47, Charlie Mahan wrote:
> > On April 1, 2004 10:09 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> > > Does anyone have an idea where to find the above MPlayer plugin
> > > for mozilla I have tried mozilla.org, google, rpmfind.
> >
> > Hoyt look in the contrib directory of any mirror for the release
> > version you're running, add that mirror to your software source
> > manager, then just run;
> >
> > urpmi mplayerplugin [Enter]
> >
> > and you should be good to go. You'll need the real and win32 codecs
> > too I think so I hope that you have a plf source defined. That's
> > where you find such things usually.
> >
> > BTW for Mandrake 10 Community and therefore cooker that isn't the
> > latest version of the plug-in:
> >
> > file:/store/Mandrake-devel/contrib/i586/mplayerplugin-1.0-0.pre2.1m
> >dk .i586.rpm
> >
> > For the specific version of the plug-in you asked about you'll have
> > to look at the mplayer project home page. Maybe. But for certain
> > you'll want to read the security alert posted there:
> >
> > http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design6/news.html
> >
> > Regards;
> > Charlie
>
> There is a teeninety minor little itsy bitsy problem here.  I cannot
> find a contrib source that urpmi will accept.  They (all I have
> tried) have a bad list (probably not up to date ).  but I'll  get to
> one and search the database manually maybe that will help.
Well I tried 8 servers and I think I'm confused because mozilla couldn't 
find but 1 and it had so little on it that it wasn't worth visiting.  I 
also searched the Mandrake Club and couldn't find a mention of it.  
Google couldn't find any hit on the name much less the version.  Theres 
definately something I don't know.
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Thursday 01 April 2004 05:08 pm, rikona wrote:
> Hello Bryan,
>
> Thursday, April 1, 2004, 12:35:45 PM, you wrote:
>
> BP> On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> >> I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing as
> >> you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again.  After
> >> all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.
>
> BP> Nostalgia.  Try going back to DOS.
>
> How about cp/m?

I could do that. I've still got an old cp/m machine here, but I tossed the 
terminal (ADM3A) out a while back. I guess I could teach this box to handle 
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Re: [newbie] Search for MPlayerplugin-0.95

2004-04-01 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Thursday 01 April 2004 11:47, Charlie Mahan wrote:
> On April 1, 2004 10:09 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> > Does anyone have an idea where to find the above MPlayer plugin for
> > mozilla I have tried mozilla.org, google, rpmfind.
>
> Hoyt look in the contrib directory of any mirror for the release
> version you're running, add that mirror to your software source
> manager, then just run;
>
> urpmi mplayerplugin [Enter]
>
> and you should be good to go. You'll need the real and win32 codecs
> too I think so I hope that you have a plf source defined. That's
> where you find such things usually.
>
> BTW for Mandrake 10 Community and therefore cooker that isn't the
> latest version of the plug-in:
>
> file:/store/Mandrake-devel/contrib/i586/mplayerplugin-1.0-0.pre2.1mdk
>.i586.rpm
>
> For the specific version of the plug-in you asked about you'll have
> to look at the mplayer project home page. Maybe. But for certain
> you'll want to read the security alert posted there:
>
> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design6/news.html
>
> Regards;
> Charlie
There is a teeninety minor little itsy bitsy problem here.  I cannot 
find a contrib source that urpmi will accept.  They (all I have tried) 
have a bad list (probably not up to date ).  but I'll  get to one and 
search the database manually maybe that will help.
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[newbie] How to kill printer queu (again)?

2004-04-01 Thread Marco Verheul
Hi all,

I'm terribly sorry, but it seems I accidently trashed your answers on
how to kill the printer queu :-/ I think I remember that John, Paul and
Anne (and maybe Stephen?) send me a reply. I would be most thankfull if
you could send it again. I'll try to be more carefull with the big old
trashbutton over here

Thanks again,
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread rikona
Hello Bryan,

Thursday, April 1, 2004, 12:35:45 PM, you wrote:

BP> On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

>> I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing as
>> you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again.  After
>> all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.

BP> Nostalgia.  Try going back to DOS.

How about cp/m?

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
Charlie wrote:
When LtCdData used the
word torch, I didn't realize that he meant "flashlight", instead of a
"Device that emits flame under pressure for the purpose of,..." kind of
torch ! That's what I thought he meant ! OOps! Good idea, but I like my
torch better than his. LOL!
Lanman


You can't use the torch you describe, because it melts the wax and blocks up 
the passage.
I knew about the wax thing Charlie. It would leave a mess of drippings 
on the poor SOB's shoulder, but your point is 
By the time it was all done, he wouldn't really be concerned about the 
wax, or his hair, or ,.!

So, What "Passage" ?? It would be a tubular cinder at that point ! Sorry 
if that's a bit too graphic. I just don't like ''em all that much.
Or did I give you a different impression? 

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
Marc Resnick wrote:
As for you Lanman, yes, please do cut down on the caffeine, you 
just did like a dodecatuple post. Thanks for clearing up the torch 
issue,  I haven't spoken to a European since the summer, haha.

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Um, Uh, Okay Marc. Thanks for setting me straight.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Charlie
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:15 pm, many eyes viewed Josenildo Marques's words:-
> I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come
> back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to
> say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better
> that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall
> Linux and give Windows a second chance.

You're welcome to your opinion of course, however incorrect, and if you don't 
wish to be considered touched, by this view and the action of posting it on 
this list, it would be best to desist.

Charlie

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Charlie
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 04:50 am, many eyes viewed Lanman's words:-
> Aron Smith wrote:
> > On Thursday 01 April 2004 05:26 am, Lanman wrote:
> >>LtCdData wrote:
> >>>as i emailed my lawyer just the day about how easy linux is
> >>> "try this simple test...
> >>>point a torch at one ear and switch on.
> >>>if the light shines straight through then linux is not for you"
> >>
> >>Hmmm, I wonder if we could make that a standard aptitude test for ALL
> >>lawyers? Hey! Wait a minute! Aren't most politicans also lawyers? H
> >>! You just might have something there! Grin!
> >
> > Naw some of them are too dense for the light to shine thru ;-)
> >
> >>Lanman
>
> Dude, When you're right, You're right !
>
> I seem to have misunderstood something though. When LtCdData used the
> word torch, I didn't realize that he meant "flashlight", instead of a
> "Device that emits flame under pressure for the purpose of,..." kind of
> torch ! That's what I thought he meant ! OOps! Good idea, but I like my
> torch better than his. LOL!
>
> Lanman

You can't use the torch you describe, because it melts the wax and blocks up 
the passage.

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Re: [newbie] Evidence of the Superior Intelligence of Canadians ;-)

2004-04-01 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Thursday 01 April 2004 20:32, Lanman wrote:
> Margot wrote:
> > Lanman wrote:
> >> JoeHill wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 07:38:56 -0600
> >>> Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>
> >> I'm not sure how he meant it Joe, but I can see where that might
> >> be his meaning. If I spoke too soon, I apologize. That's the
> >> problem with written or typed info. You can't hear the writer,
> >> and his/her tone of voice when it was written. Hmmm Voice-Email.
> >> That's an idea.
> >>
> >> Lanman
> >
> > We already have those in the UK - ahead of the world as usual ;-)
> > ...we call them "telephones".
> >
> > Margot
>
> That was funny.
>
Damn it - I'm sick of getting the jokes second hand.  I seem to be 
missing around half of the posts in any thread I follow!

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Marc Resnick
Lanman wrote:

Aron Smith wrote:

On Thursday 01 April 2004 05:26 am, Lanman wrote:

LtCdData wrote:

as i emailed my lawyer just the day about how easy linux is
"try this simple test...
point a torch at one ear and switch on.
if the light shines straight through then linux is not for you"


Hmmm, I wonder if we could make that a standard aptitude test for ALL
lawyers? Hey! Wait a minute! Aren't most politicans also lawyers? H
! You just might have something there! Grin!


Naw some of them are too dense for the light to shine thru ;-)

Lanman



Dude, When you're right, You're right !

I seem to have misunderstood something though. When LtCdData used the 
word torch, I didn't realize that he meant "flashlight", instead of a 
"Device that emits flame under pressure for the purpose of,..." kind 
of torch ! That's what I thought he meant ! OOps! Good idea, but I 
like my torch better than his. LOL!

Lanman

 

Josenildo, I showed your e-mail to a friend and fellow OS X/Linux user. 
He's asked kindly for you never to do that again. He almost had a heart 
attack. As for you Lanman, yes, please do cut down on the caffeine, you 
just did like a dodecatuple post. Thanks for clearing up the torch 
issue,  I haven't spoken to a European since the summer, haha.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Charlie
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 03:08 am, many eyes viewed Lyvim Xaphir's words:-
> On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 11:10, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 13:08, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:38, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 12:09, JoeHill wrote:
> > > > > On Thu,  1 Apr 2004 09:15:47 -0300
> > > > >
> > > > > Josenildo Marques disseminated the following:
> > > > > > I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've
> > > > > > also come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux
> > > > > > experience is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating.
> > > > > > I'm feeling so much better that I can't avoid giving you this
> > > > > > piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and give Windows a
> > > > > > second chance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, where is the *real* Mr. Marques, and what have you done to
> > > > > him?!
> > > > >
> > > > > This has got to be a joke...
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, YOU got it !
> > > > It's April the first, right ? So, according to tradition, I just had
> > > > to tell a lie :-)
> > >
> > > Well, I wish you'd waited before you blew your cover.  This was so good
> > > I wanted to piggyback in on this deal.  You messed up my fun.  :)
> > >
> > > LX
> >
> > Sorry, Lyvim.
> > I had some fun, but, to tell you the truth, I also thought things could
> > get 'out of control'.
> > But there are other lists, right ?!! :-)
>
> Hmyeah, that's a good point.  >;)
>
>
> LX

In my case I have an excuse, here it is April 2 but it does certainly suggest 
that we are too protective and maybe even defensive?

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[newbie] Sending a packet

2004-04-01 Thread Marc Resnick
Is there an easy way to send a homemade packet in Linux? I Googled, and 
just found some C++ scripts on sending raw packets from the Kernel. I 
really don't know that much about this stuff. I'm just trying to learn 
more about the internet, networking, and packets.

If anyone could share some info, I'd be very grateful.

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Re: [newbie] Evidence of the Superior Intelligence of Canadians ;-)

2004-04-01 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 01 April 2004 11:39 am, rikona wrote:

> I'd have to think about the Intelligence part, but to does seem as
> though it might be harder for rich organizations to buy laws and
> 'justice' in Canada. You can get away with murder in the US. :-)

Does that have anything to do with that weird exchange rate??  I knew that 
stuff would come in handy for something.

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Re: [newbie] Evidence of the Superior Intelligence of Canadians ;-)

2004-04-01 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 01 April 2004 11:58 am, JoeHill wrote:

> I think you're right. It has a lot more to do with the fact that the
> judiciary in Canada is, in my estimation, much more 'apolitical'. They
> don't have to worry about what popular opinion, political pressure, etc.
> might be telling them to do, since they are appointed, not elected. This is
> why, in the US, you tend to see more logical decisions from the Supreme
> Court as opposed to judges in lower courts who take their lead from the
> polls more than the law.

Maybe I am just cynical but does it strike anyone that it is easier for other 
countries to rebuff the RIAA, MPAA, etc. because the bulk of the money flows 
to the US, rather than back to the other countries?

I really wish that I could believe that any government is capable of doing 
something just because it is the right thing to do, but somehow, I have a 
hard time getting my head around that.
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

> I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing as
> you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again.  After
> all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.

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Re: [newbie] Search for MPlayerplugin-0.95

2004-04-01 Thread Charlie Mahan
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On April 1, 2004 10:09 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> Does anyone have an idea where to find the above MPlayer plugin for
> mozilla I have tried mozilla.org, google, rpmfind.

Hoyt look in the contrib directory of any mirror for the release version 
you're running, add that mirror to your software source manager, then just 
run;

urpmi mplayerplugin [Enter]

and you should be good to go. You'll need the real and win32 codecs too I 
think so I hope that you have a plf source defined. That's where you find 
such things usually.

BTW for Mandrake 10 Community and therefore cooker that isn't the latest 
version of the plug-in:

file:/store/Mandrake-devel/contrib/i586/mplayerplugin-1.0-0.pre2.1mdk.i586.rpm

For the specific version of the plug-in you asked about you'll have to look at 
the mplayer project home page. Maybe. But for certain you'll want to read the 
security alert posted there:

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design6/news.html

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Re: [newbie] Evidence of the Superior Intelligence of Canadians ;-)

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
Margot wrote:
Lanman wrote:

JoeHill wrote:

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 07:38:56 -0600
Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following:


Does this mean if you (or your countrymen) disrespect anyone that 
the party disrespected can laugh at you.




...

Before this degenerates...I don't think Fajar was laughing _at_ 
Canadians, I
think (correct me if I'm wrong here Fajar) he was laughing _with_ 
Canadians, at
the expense of the Recording Industry greedheads. Now, as far as 
laughing at
Canadians, well, there are plenty of other reasons for that... ;-)


I'm not sure how he meant it Joe, but I can see where that might be 
his meaning. If I spoke too soon, I apologize. That's the problem with 
written or typed info. You can't hear the writer, and his/her tone of 
voice when it was written. Hmmm Voice-Email. That's an idea.

Lanman

We already have those in the UK - ahead of the world as usual ;-) ...we 
call them "telephones".

Margot
That was funny.

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Re: [newbie] Evidence of the Superior Intelligence of Canadians ;-)

2004-04-01 Thread Margot
Lanman wrote:
JoeHill wrote:

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 07:38:56 -0600
Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following:


Does this mean if you (or your countrymen) disrespect anyone that the 
party disrespected can laugh at you.


...

Before this degenerates...I don't think Fajar was laughing _at_ 
Canadians, I
think (correct me if I'm wrong here Fajar) he was laughing _with_ 
Canadians, at
the expense of the Recording Industry greedheads. Now, as far as 
laughing at
Canadians, well, there are plenty of other reasons for that... ;-)


I'm not sure how he meant it Joe, but I can see where that might be his 
meaning. If I spoke too soon, I apologize. That's the problem with 
written or typed info. You can't hear the writer, and his/her tone of 
voice when it was written. Hmmm Voice-Email. That's an idea.

Lanman

We already have those in the UK - ahead of the world as usual ;-) 
...we call them "telephones".

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Re: [newbie] Evidence of the Superior Intelligence of Canadians ;-)

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
JoeHill wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 07:38:56 -0600
Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following:


Does this mean if you (or your countrymen) disrespect anyone that the 
party disrespected can laugh at you.


...

Before this degenerates...I don't think Fajar was laughing _at_ Canadians, I
think (correct me if I'm wrong here Fajar) he was laughing _with_ Canadians, at
the expense of the Recording Industry greedheads. Now, as far as laughing at
Canadians, well, there are plenty of other reasons for that... ;-)
I'm not sure how he meant it Joe, but I can see where that might be his 
meaning. If I spoke too soon, I apologize. That's the problem with 
written or typed info. You can't hear the writer, and his/her tone of 
voice when it was written. Hmmm Voice-Email. That's an idea.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 07:15, Josenildo Marques wrote:

I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also
come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux
experience is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm
feeling so much better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of
advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.


I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing as
you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again.  After
all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.
LX


See what I mean ? Coming from Lyvim, I would have known it was a prank ! 
You got me good on that one!  As for you, Lyvim, Give it up Buddy! 
There's no way you'd give up on Linux unless it meant losing a delicate 
part of your anatomy !

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
Josenildo Marques wrote:
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:08, Lanman wrote:

Josenildo Marques wrote:

I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also 
come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience 
is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much 
better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. 
Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.

You have obviously forgotten the reason you came here in the first 
place. I guess you stayed long enough to forget all the problems you had 
with Windows. It's your choice, of course, but I think you'll be back. 
Personally, I wouldn't give up this quickly, but to each his own.

We'll be seeing you soon enough.

Lanman


Lanman ___ April Fool !!


DoH ! Busted ! You sneaky bugger ! I was wondering why you - Of All 
People - would be leaving ! I haven't been fooled that good for a long 
time ! Just wait until next year ! Grin !

I hate it when that happens !

LOL!

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
Aron Smith wrote:
On Thursday 01 April 2004 05:26 am, Lanman wrote:

LtCdData wrote:

as i emailed my lawyer just the day about how easy linux is
"try this simple test...
point a torch at one ear and switch on.
if the light shines straight through then linux is not for you"
Hmmm, I wonder if we could make that a standard aptitude test for ALL
lawyers? Hey! Wait a minute! Aren't most politicans also lawyers? H
! You just might have something there! Grin!
Naw some of them are too dense for the light to shine thru ;-)

Lanman


Dude, When you're right, You're right !

I seem to have misunderstood something though. When LtCdData used the 
word torch, I didn't realize that he meant "flashlight", instead of a 
"Device that emits flame under pressure for the purpose of,..." kind of 
torch ! That's what I thought he meant ! OOps! Good idea, but I like my 
torch better than his. LOL!

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Re: [newbie] Evidence of the Superior Intelligence of Canadians ;-)

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
JoeHill wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 08:39:12 -0800
rikona disseminated the following:

J> "The Canadian Federal Court has ruled that computer users who made music
J> available on the Internet could not be sued. The recording industry said it
J> would appeal the decision.
I'd have to think about the Intelligence part, but to does seem as
though it might be harder for rich organizations to buy laws and
'justice' in Canada. You can get away with murder in the US. :-)


I think you're right. It has a lot more to do with the fact that the judiciary
in Canada is, in my estimation, much more 'apolitical'. They don't have to worry
about what popular opinion, political pressure, etc. might be telling them to
do, since they are appointed, not elected. This is why, in the US, you tend to
see more logical decisions from the Supreme Court as opposed to judges in lower
courts who take their lead from the polls more than the law.
...but make no mistake, they follow the law, and if enough politicians can be
bought off to enact some DMCA crap, the judges will enforce it. Canadian judges
have a rep for interpreting the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in favour of big
money when they have the opportunity.
Point: 'The price of liberty is eternal vigilance', no matter where you are.

Anyhow, all that aside, it was just nice to see the greedheads take one in the
pants for a change :-)


Hear ! Hear ! We finally agree on something ! Grin!

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
JoeHill wrote:
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:38:38 -0300
Josenildo Marques disseminated the following:

Okay, where is the *real* Mr. Marques, and what have you done to him?!

This has got to be a joke...
Yeah, YOU got it !
It's April the first, right ? So, according to tradition, I just had to
tell a lie :-)


...actually, Larry gets the prize, he saw through it first. Does show how bloody
easy it is to get people goin' though, eh?
I have definitely got to cut back on the caffeine !

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 07:15, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also
> come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux
> experience is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm
> feeling so much better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of
> advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.


I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing as
you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again.  After
all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 09:32, Aron Smith wrote:
> On Thursday 01 April 2004 04:15 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> > I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come
> > back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to
> > say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better
> > that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall
> > Linux and give Windows a second chance.
> you realize that you do have to have a double digit IQ to use Linux? ;-)

wOW, MAN, that was cruel. 
It even reminded me of Shakespeare. "I have to be cruel only to be
kind."

APRIL FOOL !!  :-)

> 
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:09, Larry Varney wrote:
> Josenildo Marques wrote:
> > I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also 
> > come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience 
> > is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much 
> > better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. 
> > Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
> >  
> 
>Am I the only one to suspect the intent of your post, seeing as how 
> it's April 1st?
> 
BINGO !

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:08, Lanman wrote:
> Josenildo Marques wrote:
> > I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also 
> > come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience 
> > is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much 
> > better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. 
> > Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
> >  
> 
> You have obviously forgotten the reason you came here in the first 
> place. I guess you stayed long enough to forget all the problems you had 
> with Windows. It's your choice, of course, but I think you'll be back. 
> Personally, I wouldn't give up this quickly, but to each his own.
> 
> We'll be seeing you soon enough.
> 
> Lanman

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 12:09, JoeHill wrote:
> On Thu,  1 Apr 2004 09:15:47 -0300
> Josenildo Marques disseminated the following:
> 
> > I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come
> > back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to say
> > the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better that I
> > can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and
> > give Windows a second chance.
> 
> Okay, where is the *real* Mr. Marques, and what have you done to him?!
> 
> This has got to be a joke...

Yeah, YOU got it !
It's April the first, right ? So, according to tradition, I just had to
tell a lie :-)

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Re: [newbie] /dev/ppp problem

2004-04-01 Thread robin
robin wrote:
Under 9.2 I could connect to the Internet on boot by adding 
"/usr/bin/wvdial" to /etc/rc.local. However, under 10.0 it won't 
connect, and /var/log/daemons/errors gives the following:

Mar 31 18:15:03 localhost pppd[4425]: Couldn't set pass-filter in 
kernel: Invalid argument
Mar 31 18:35:29 localhost pppd[3984]: pppd is unable to open the 
/dev/ppp device. You need to create the /dev/ppp device node by 
executing the following command as root: ^Imknod /dev/ppp c 108 0

Running mknod gives the error that /dev/ppp already exists, and the file 
is impossible to move or remove. Any ideas what I should do?

Don't worry - it seems to have sorted itself out, though I have no idea 
why. A couple of reboots did the trick (I know rebooting loses you Linux 
credibility points, but when you're dealing with running services at 
boot, it's necessary). That's the thing I like about Linux - usually the 
system is smarter than I am.

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[newbie] Won't boot up now.

2004-04-01 Thread Bill


I changed the settings on my monitor configuration last night, and my screen resolution. I also formated, I though, 7M that was vacant on the hard drive. Now my machine won't boot up, it shows a failure, and when I try to fix it, it fails the fix, and sends me back into a reboot that takes me back in a circle.
Where am I going wrong? Do I just need to reload? I am running Mandrake 9.2 and I just got my 10.0 Community discs in. I wonder if it would just be easier to reload with 10.
 
thanks
Bill Hatfield

[newbie] Running 'mozilla' opens Firefox

2004-04-01 Thread JoeHill

I generally use Firefox, but I keep it to a certain desktop. I would like to use
Mozilla to view HTML docs I have stored locally, but when I try to open them
with mozilla, CLI or otherwise, FireFox opens instead.

I looked at the 'mozilla' script in /usr/bin, and there is reference to a
variable $MOZ_CLIENT_PROGRAM. Is this variable set somewhere that I can change?

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 01 April 2004 05:26 am, Lanman wrote:
> LtCdData wrote:
> > as i emailed my lawyer just the day about how easy linux is
> >  "try this simple test...
> > point a torch at one ear and switch on.
> > if the light shines straight through then linux is not for you"
>
> Hmmm, I wonder if we could make that a standard aptitude test for ALL
> lawyers? Hey! Wait a minute! Aren't most politicans also lawyers? H
> ! You just might have something there! Grin!
Naw some of them are too dense for the light to shine thru ;-)
>
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Re: [newbie] dvdbackup won't install

2004-04-01 Thread Mike Adolf
On Tuesday 30 March 2004 08:05 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:17:35 -0700
>
> Mike Adolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "libdvdread.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> > directory"
> >
> > The make install placed libdvdread.so.3 (as a sym link to another so)
> > in /usr/local/lib and this path was "-L" in dvdbackup compile.  How
> > can I find out why the executable can not find it? The so file has all
> > permissions.
>
> Run:  # ldconfig libdvdread.so.3
>
> If it is then still not detected created a sym link for it in /usr/lib
>
>
>
> Charles

Thanks, again Cahrles. I do not have Idconfig but after making the symlink 
from /usr/lib, all worked OK.

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Re: [newbie] Evidence of the Superior Intelligence of Canadians ;-)

2004-04-01 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 07:38:56 -0600
Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following:



> Does this mean if you (or your countrymen) disrespect anyone that the 
> party disrespected can laugh at you.

...

Before this degenerates...I don't think Fajar was laughing _at_ Canadians, I
think (correct me if I'm wrong here Fajar) he was laughing _with_ Canadians, at
the expense of the Recording Industry greedheads. Now, as far as laughing at
Canadians, well, there are plenty of other reasons for that... ;-)

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread JoeHill
On Thu,  1 Apr 2004 09:15:47 -0300
Josenildo Marques disseminated the following:

> I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come
> back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to say
> the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better that I
> can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and
> give Windows a second chance.

Okay, where is the *real* Mr. Marques, and what have you done to him?!

This has got to be a joke...

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Re: [newbie] Evidence of the Superior Intelligence of Canadians ;-)

2004-04-01 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Thursday 01 April 2004 08:11, Lanman wrote:
> Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> > Does this mean if you (or your countrymen) disrespect anyone that
> > the party disrespected can laugh at you.
>
> It just means that he shouldn't be so quick to cast aspersions or
> stones, literally or figuratively. Besides, this isn't the place for
> it, and I found it in poor taste. There was no reason to make any
> disparaging remarks against Canada in the article, as I don't see
> Indonesia taking steps to protect the civil rights of it's
> population.

> Fajar's opinion was, IMNSHO, short-sighted, inappropriate and crass.
>
> Lanman
Chill.   This isn't the place for rants. Use logic not emotion. HA-HA
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[newbie] Tough keyboards

2004-04-01 Thread B McKee
From: "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed Mar 31, 2004  3:52:48  PM Canada/Eastern
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Broken Shift Key
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wednesday 31 March 2004 02:08 pm, Aron Smith wrote:

->New keyboard time but first turn it upside down and give it a vigorus
 shaking ->you won' believe the crap that's gonna fall out. I usually 
get
 about a year ->out of a keyboard.( thank God they are cheap)

I've got one of them "dinosaur age" IBM keyboards. You know - the ones 
that
weigh more than my desktop does.

Been Goin' about 5 years with it now - no other keyboard I've found 
has the
feel that it does.

Yep - clickity clickity clickity clickity click... It always
sounds like you're busy anyway :-)
I've got three old PS/2 IBM keyboards (from IBM PS/1 machines!)
Made while IBM was still making typewriters.  I love 'em but my
wife can't stand 'em.  Too hard to push the keys for her.


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Re: [newbie] Evidence of the Superior Intelligence of Canadians ;-)

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
Hoyt Bailey wrote:
Does this mean if you (or your countrymen) disrespect anyone that the 
party disrespected can laugh at you.
It just means that he shouldn't be so quick to cast aspersions or 
stones, literally or figuratively. Besides, this isn't the place for it, 
and I found it in poor taste. There was no reason to make any 
disparaging remarks against Canada in the article, as I don't see 
Indonesia taking steps to protect the civil rights of it's population.

I can take a bit of teasing like the next guy, but that's not hat his 
post was remotely about. Canada took steps to protect the rights of it's 
people long ago, as well as steps to protect the rights of authors and 
copyrighted material. Besides, if we give any credence to the study 
recently conducted by Harvard, sharing MP3's isn't having much of an 
affect on the music industry. I think this is a fact that most 
free-thinkers accepted long ago, when all this copyright infringement 
garbage started, and it's reassuring to see that the Canadian courts 
seem to agree.

So, while Canada and our court system takes another step to protect our 
way of life, Fajar thinks little of it. I think that it clearly shows 
that Canada won't be presured into complying with U.S. policy, and 
perhaps it will also stand out as a more common-sense approach to 
solving this whole situation.

After all, what is the alternative? Have RIAA sue everyone in the world 
who's ever downloaded a song? Use the World Courts or U.S. political 
pressure to push similar copyright laws ( ie; DMCA ) into the household 
of everyone on the planet?

Fajar's opinion was, IMNSHO, short-sighted, inappropriate and crass.

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Re: [newbie] USB 2.0 PCMCIA

2004-04-01 Thread Matthew Harrison
Nevermind folks.  I tried it again and sure enough it popped right up on 
the desktop as /mnt/removeable and now it is transfering at superfast 
speed.  Gotta love Linux! :)

-Matt

Matthew Harrison wrote:

Hi all,
  I have an STLab PCMCIA USB 2.0 card that I believe is detected by 
Mandrake 10.  The only problem is that my external hard drive isn't 
picked up when I have it plugged into the 2.0 card.  If I plug it in 
to the 1.1 ports, it detects as /dev/sda1 and mounts to /mnt/windows 
as I specified.  Is there no support yet for 2.0 or am I missing 
something that I should have configured.  Thanks.

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[newbie] USB 2.0 PCMCIA

2004-04-01 Thread Matthew Harrison
Hi all,
  I have an STLab PCMCIA USB 2.0 card that I believe is detected by 
Mandrake 10.  The only problem is that my external hard drive isn't 
picked up when I have it plugged into the 2.0 card.  If I plug it in to 
the 1.1 ports, it detects as /dev/sda1 and mounts to /mnt/windows as I 
specified.  Is there no support yet for 2.0 or am I missing something 
that I should have configured.  Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 01 April 2004 07:15 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come
> back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to
> say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better
> that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall
> Linux and give Windows a second chance.

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Re: [newbie] Evidence of the Superior Intelligence of Canadians ;-)

2004-04-01 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Thursday 01 April 2004 05:01, Lanman wrote:
> Hey Fajar; I don't think you should turn this into a political issue
> by laughing at our country. In case you forget, Canada is home to a
> large group of Indonesians. Canada is right next door to the U.S.,
> and taking a stand on an issue such as this shows that we're using
> more common sense than some. Has Indonesia been taking a stand on
> this problem? Because I haven't heard a peep out of them about
> consumers rights, and I don't think many of us have. Please don't
> start laughing at our country unless you're ready for us to start
> laughing at yours. At least Canada is taking a stand on our rights,
> and letting everyone know that we're not going to put company profits
> above individual rights. What has Indonesia done to protest or
> contradict the DMCA lately?
>
> Who should be laughing at whom?
>
Does this mean if you (or your countrymen) disrespect anyone that the 
party disrespected can laugh at you.
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Glenn
On Thursday 01 April 2004 06:09, Larry Varney wrote:


>
>Am I the only one to suspect the intent of your post, seeing as how
> it's April 1st?

I'd like to think that this is the case.  I don't remember Josenildo making 
preliminary noises of moving back to the BGOS, so I think he's pulling our 
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
LtCdData wrote:
as i emailed my lawyer just the day about how easy linux is
 "try this simple test...
point a torch at one ear and switch on.
if the light shines straight through then linux is not for you"
Hmmm, I wonder if we could make that a standard aptitude test for ALL 
lawyers? Hey! Wait a minute! Aren't most politicans also lawyers? H 
! You just might have something there! Grin!

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread LtCdData
as i emailed my lawyer just the day about how easy linux is
 "try this simple test...
point a torch at one ear and switch on.
if the light shines straight through then linux is not for you"

On Thursday 01 Apr 2004 H:32, Aron Smith wrote:
> On Thursday 01 April 2004 04:15 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> > I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also
> > come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience
> > is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much
> > better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same.
> > Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
>
> you realize that you do have to have a double digit IQ to use Linux? ;-)


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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Larry Varney
Josenildo Marques wrote:
I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also 
come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience 
is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much 
better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. 
Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
 
  Am I the only one to suspect the intent of your post, seeing as how 
it's April 1st?



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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
Josenildo Marques wrote:
I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also 
come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience 
is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much 
better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. 
Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
 
You have obviously forgotten the reason you came here in the first 
place. I guess you stayed long enough to forget all the problems you had 
with Windows. It's your choice, of course, but I think you'll be back. 
Personally, I wouldn't give up this quickly, but to each his own.

We'll be seeing you soon enough.

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RE: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Tobias Cloete








That’s your choice.

I love OpenSouce and I run 3 pc’s at
home with Linux installed on all of them at work 2. I’m the only linux
guy here and love to be different.

Linux is my desktop and Windows just
cracks me up!

 

Btw. His is a Technical list, not a
flaming one. Please keep you opinion to yourself

 

~Jargon

 

-Original Message-
From: Josenildo Marques
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 April 2004 02:16 PM
To: newbie
Subject: [newbie] back to the good
old Windows

 



I have not only erased
Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come back to Windows, the best
operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to say the least, disappointing
and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better that I can't avoid giving you this
piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.





 










Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 01 April 2004 04:15 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come
> back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to
> say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better
> that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall
> Linux and give Windows a second chance.
you realize that you do have to have a double digit IQ to use Linux? ;-)


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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Jimmy Bradley
If that's what you want to do, it's your right to do so. As far as your
advice goes, I'll take your advice, and toss it out the window.

Jim

On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 06:15, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also
> come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux
> experience is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm
> feeling so much better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of
> advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
>  



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[newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Josenildo Marques
I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
 

Re: [newbie] Evidence of the Superior Intelligence of Canadians ;-)

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
Hey Fajar; I don't think you should turn this into a political issue by 
laughing at our country. In case you forget, Canada is home to a large 
group of Indonesians. Canada is right next door to the U.S., and taking 
a stand on an issue such as this shows that we're using more common 
sense than some. Has Indonesia been taking a stand on this problem? 
Because I haven't heard a peep out of them about consumers rights, and I 
don't think many of us have. Please don't start laughing at our country 
unless you're ready for us to start laughing at yours. At least Canada 
is taking a stand on our rights, and letting everyone know that we're 
not going to put company profits above individual rights. What has 
Indonesia done to protest or contradict the DMCA lately?

Who should be laughing at whom?

Lanman
Registered Linux User #190712
>Fajar Priyanto wrote:
LOL, very genius indeed.
Poor record industry.
Yeah, why not?
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Re: [newbie] Learning aid: recording CLI screen into file

2004-04-01 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 23:54, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
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> 
> Hi guys,
> I'm compiling qmail and all its stuffs. 
> For studying purpose, I'd like to record all what is displayed during my 
> compiling activities in the console into a file. Can I do that? I mean, not 
> just the bash history, but also the output when the compiling runs, you know, 
> all those screen scrolling filled with hi-tech text like this:

man script

Adolfo



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Re: [newbie] Run remote gnome-session on local gnome

2004-04-01 Thread Alaa The Great
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:23:36 -0500
Guy Rouillier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Under Windows, I can run cygwin and create a X session running in a
> single window, inside which I can run gnome-session on a remote Linux.
>  I like that usage model.  I know about and have used vnc, but I
>  prefer do the remote X thing.  Is it possible to do the same thing
>  while running gnome on my local Linux system?  I tried simply ssh -X
>  -l into a remote box and simply firing up gnome-session, and gnome
>  actually came up, but it got upset that I was already running a
>  window manager, and got totally confused since I had two panels.  I
>  had to exit X completely to get it reset.
> 
> I haven't found a way to confine a remote gnome-session to a single
> window under Linux.  Appreciate any pointers.

use Xnest, the nested X server which gives you an X session in a window.

urpmi XFree-Xnest

cheers,
Alaa
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