Re: [newbie] Kernel update woes

2004-04-07 Thread Len Lawrence
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 20:44:58 +0200
"Pablo Vitoria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I experienced exactly the same when updating from 2.4.22-26 to 2.4.22-28.
> I searched the web and this list looking for answers and I found none. After
> several attepmts to run 'lilo' with different options (all unsuccessful with
> the same error message), I decided to be brave (I have a full back up of my
> system) and rebooted. To my surprise, all went well, but the system started
> with the old kernel. I guess this is because, as lilo failed, nothing was
> changed. So I think the links in /boot are used by LILO to update the boot
> loader, but the real paths to kernel, etc, are used in the boot loader.
> Then I entered 'lilo -v' (after changing all links in /boot to point to the
> new kernel), and this time there was no error. One more reboot and now I am
> running the latest kernel.
 
> | On advice from Mandrake Expert I have just installed the 2.4.22-28 kernel
> to
> | replace the 2.4.22-10 supplied with Mandrake 9.2 ProSuite.
> | When the RPM installed via urpmi an error occurred at the /sbin/lilo
> stage:
> |   error regenerating lilo
> | The lilo.conf looked OK so I ran /sbin/lilo again and it returned
> |   Fatal: volid read error.
>

Thanks for the encouragement Pablo.  Will give it a go. 
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Re: [newbie] MD10 can't see stuff....

2004-04-07 Thread Hannes Kruger
Seems PCMCIA is broken. Have same problem with a wireless card. Will
investigate.

Hannes
- Original Message -
From: "Olwë Melwasúl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 4:36 AM
Subject: [newbie] MD10 can't see stuff


> Hello,
>
> I installed a community download version of 10 and the install seemed to
> go smoothly. However, I cannot get it to recognize my US Robotics 56k
> PCI modem. On the WinXP side (if I can get MD to work Win goes!), the
> modem is at COM4, INT10. I've tried sticking this into the system
> hardware wizard, but to no avail. Similarly, MD doesn't see my CD-ROM,
> even though I installed with it.
>
> Olwe
>
>







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Re: [newbie] Unpleasant stigma on Mandrake users

2004-04-07 Thread Charlie
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:05 am, many eyes viewed Fajar Priyanto's words:-
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> Hash: SHA1
>
> Guys,
> What do you think of this:
> "Because you run Mandrake, you didn't invest the 20-30 minutes that most
> Shorewall users do in learning about Shorewall during the installation
> process."
>
> That is a response I got in the shorewall list. I hate it. In fact, I have
> been getting those kind of views from many people in the Linux community
> when they found out that I use Mandrake.
>
> What's wrong with Mandrake? Does Linux have to be difficult so that we are
> proud to be called "Linux guru" by others? Does the easiness that offered
> by Mandrake make it's users lazy and stupid? I'm afraid this is the
> unpleasant stigma that we get in the Linux community.
>
> Boy, I hate this.
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> 06:57:58 up 4 min, Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586
> public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key

Just by being affected by it shows that their jibe has worked. What more than 
that might it be? None if you don't accept it. I love Mandrake it shows in my 
signature. It requires no comment, gratuitous or otherwise.

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Re: [newbie] Accessing Secure Webpages: PROBLEM SOLVED

2004-04-07 Thread David
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 18:33:58 +1200
David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| 
| 
| Currently have my box connected at friends place via a different exchange and
| all is working Ok, ie can connect to https:// sites and send emails.
| 
| Will talk to contractors who look after my exchange for the teleco tomorrow to
| sort out.
| 

Ok so it wasn't the lines. After lightly heated words with the teleco took my
modem up to friends and tried it on his machine. Same results as I was getting.
Took modem back to where i purchased it this morning and talked them into
exhangeing it (it was well outside the 2 week limit for such). Short story the
new modem acted the same. Got a refund and headed off in seach of another. Ended
up with a USRobotics job.  All is well again.

My thanks to everyone who offered assistance in this project.

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Re: [newbie]New-old computer advice request

2004-04-07 Thread bmobile40
Sounds like you've got one of the old AT motherboards.
As far as the keyboard goes, you should be able to get a PS/2 keyboard
to work by buying a PS/2 to AT adapter. Now, when it comes to the mouse,
if it's the old serial type of mouse, unless one of your local computer
stores happens to have an old serial mouse, best place to go for one of
those is Ebay. You can get a PS/2 to serial adapter. One might come with
the keyboard adapter, but 9 times out of 10 the adapters for the mice
don't work.
Everything else looks fine, except you might want to see if the board
will support a bigger hard drive if you've got a spare one floating
around.

Jim

On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 19:38, Wojciech Podgórni wrote:
> Hello, everyone!
> I have just bought a used computer. The technical details are:
> Intel Celeron 300MHz
> 392 MB RAM (SDRAM)
> 8 GB HDD (empty)
> 52x CD-ROM (LG - although I didn't have any problems with this one on M9.2)
> 3,5" floppy drive
> 10/100 Mb/s Realtek Ethernet card
> NVIDIA GeForce 256 DDR video card
> ...and that's all.
> I still have to buy a keyboard (an older kind than PS/2), sound card and 
> mouse. I plan to use my computer for my in-house networking practices 
> (along with my new, shiny - and smelly - Athlon XP 2,4 GHz, 512 MB 
> computer). I have a few questions and I will be very greatful if anyone 
> will give any answer to them:
> 1) What keyboard, mouse and (especially) sound card should I buy? I want 
> the computer to fully work under Linux. I know from the Mandrake 9.2 
> hardware compability list that:
> a) mouses made by Genius, Logitech and Microsoft generally work
> b) keyboards made by Cherry, Logitech and Microsoft work
> c) here list of compatible sound cards is somewhat longer (but the ones 
> made by: Acer Inc., Acer Lab. Inc., Adlib, Adopen, Asus, Atrend, Audio 
> Excel, Aureal, Aztech, C-Media El. Inc., Cirrus Logic, Creative Labs, 
> Ensoniq, ESS Tech., ForteMedia Inc., HERCULES, IC Ensemble Inc., INTEL, 
> Platform Tech. Inc.,  S3 Inc., Sil. Int. Sys., Trident Microsys., VIA 
> Tech., Xilinx Inc. and YAMAHA have been reported to be working).
> I know the list is hardly complete. The big question is what should I 
> ask Linux-ignorant sellers to obtain a cheap and functional set?
> 2) I am thinking of using the older computer as a thin client (the new 
> one would be my server). What are the advantages and disadvantages of 
> that solution (especially in comparison to a Windows-like model of 
> two-standalone computers)? Is it worth the effort?*
> I look forward for reading your advices. This is something I have never 
> done before (and I hope to learn something about Linux and computers in 
> general).
> TIA!
> Wojciech Podgórni
> 
> * I would use the thin client to browse the Web, for editing texts and 
> listening to the music - but I generally consider it as an exercise in 
> Linux administration. I have never worked on ANY network before (not 
> counting me being a ISP client).



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Re: [newbie] MD10 can't see stuff....

2004-04-07 Thread Erylon Hines
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 07:36 pm, Olwë Melwasúl wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I installed a community download version of 10 and the install seemed to
> go smoothly. However, I cannot get it to recognize my US Robotics 56k
> PCI modem. On the WinXP side (if I can get MD to work Win goes!), the
> modem is at COM4, INT10. I've tried sticking this into the system
> hardware wizard, but to no avail. Similarly, MD doesn't see my CD-ROM,
> even though I installed with it.
>
> Olwe

Probably a WINDOWS ONLY modem (WinModem).  USR is notorious for not supporting 
Linux.  External serial modems from any manufacturer will work.  Most 
WinModems with LUCENT chipsets (LinModems) work, too (better than they do in 
Windows, in my experience).  Some Conexant chipsets work (never used them, 
but I've heard the drivers are proprietary).  And, finally, PCTel Winmodems 
may work, too.  For more info, go to http://www.linmodems.org

As for the CD-ROM, that is weird.  Assuming you don't have a CD-RW, there 
should be an entry line in your /etc/fstab that resembles this (all on one 
line):
none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/hdd,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0



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Re: [newbie] DVD writter supported by mandrake 9.2

2004-04-07 Thread Steve Mazil
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 08:46:32 +0100
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On Wednesday 07 April 2004 07:22, Steve Mazil wrote:
> >
> > Anne I've added the above to the TWiki DVDDriVes under the Atapi
> > heading with a link to the product information on the LiteOn web site
> > for that drive.
> >
> > It's the first time I've done this on a TWiki web site so I hope it's
> > done right.
> >
> Good start, then, Steve.  The only thing it needed was a heading symbol 
> so that it shows up in the Table of Contents.  I've put it in for you.  
> Take a look at the page in edit mode and you'll see what I did.  HTH 
> for next time ;-)
> 
> Anne
> - -- 
Thanks for the correction, I think I read through the text formatting rules but forgot 
about the heading when I added the info.  I should have left the text formatting 
window open so I could refer back to it (next time).

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Re: [newbie] Unpleasant stigma on Mandrake users

2004-04-07 Thread Rory
Isn't it great that the Linux community can build camps around distros, bad 
mouth other distros and talk about how there's is the best and why???

Over in the MS OS community that I just left two weeks ago, there's none of 
this talk because... there's no choice.  

Rory

P.S. Make no mistake about it - the distro that is the most user-friendly (MDK 
still has a long way to go - sorry, but I've been involved in UI development, 
ease of use and navigation for software and see the shortfalls of MDK as a 
new user), the easiest to update (read: no need for command lines for those 
who choose not to use them-MDK is close) and the easiest to install new 
programs on (read: getting rid of dependency issues.  Download, click and 
install. End of story.) will champion the Linux community in a way that those 
"difficult distros" and those snobby Linux insiders will never be able to do.  
Why?  Because that will be the distro that finally gives those MS OS users 
the choice to leave, try a new OS for the first time in their lives and join 
a community that is free to argue over the code and implementation of code it 
is allowed to see, change and make their own.  


> That is a response I got in the shorewall list. I hate it. In fact, I have
> been getting those kind of views from many people in the Linux community
> when they found out that I use Mandrake.


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Re: [newbie] mldonkey makes swap memory too low.

2004-04-07 Thread bascule
known issue, its a memory leak, at least the mlgui had that, when i started 
using a browser to look at localhost:4080 my swap problems went away, there 
was a reference to this on the mldonkey site, maybe it's fixed now

bascule

On Thursday 08 Apr 2004 3:41 am, otavio augusto viegas wrote:
> Have anyone experienced the same problem as follows?
>
> Whem i run Mldonkey, or as a service with mlnet, the swap usage goes up
> till I must reboot. I have 256 MB of swap and in a few hours I have only
> 4 MB of swap space.
>
> This only happens when I run Mlnet ou Mldondey, I've check with top and
> Mldonkey-gui or mlnet is the process which consumes more memory ou
> processor.
>
> How could I fix it?
>
> thanks
>
> Otavio

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Re: [newbie]New-old computer advice request

2004-04-07 Thread Dennis Myers
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 07:38 pm, Wojciech Podgórni wrote:
> Hello, everyone!
> I have just bought a used computer. The technical details are:
> Intel Celeron 300MHz
> 392 MB RAM (SDRAM)
> 8 GB HDD (empty)
> 52x CD-ROM (LG - although I didn't have any problems with this one on M9.2)
> 3,5" floppy drive
> 10/100 Mb/s Realtek Ethernet card
> NVIDIA GeForce 256 DDR video card
> ...and that's all.
> I still have to buy a keyboard (an older kind than PS/2), sound card and
> mouse. I plan to use my computer for my in-house networking practices
> (along with my new, shiny - and smelly - Athlon XP 2,4 GHz, 512 MB
> computer). I have a few questions and I will be very greatful if anyone
> will give any answer to them:
> 1) What keyboard, mouse and (especially) sound card should I buy? I want
> the computer to fully work under Linux. I know from the Mandrake 9.2
> hardware compability list that:
> a) mouses made by Genius, Logitech and Microsoft generally work
> b) keyboards made by Cherry, Logitech and Microsoft work
> c) here list of compatible sound cards is somewhat longer (but the ones
> made by: Acer Inc., Acer Lab. Inc., Adlib, Adopen, Asus, Atrend, Audio
> Excel, Aureal, Aztech, C-Media El. Inc., Cirrus Logic, Creative Labs,
> Ensoniq, ESS Tech., ForteMedia Inc., HERCULES, IC Ensemble Inc., INTEL,
> Platform Tech. Inc.,  S3 Inc., Sil. Int. Sys., Trident Microsys., VIA
> Tech., Xilinx Inc. and YAMAHA have been reported to be working).
> I know the list is hardly complete. The big question is what should I
> ask Linux-ignorant sellers to obtain a cheap and functional set?
> 2) I am thinking of using the older computer as a thin client (the new
> one would be my server). What are the advantages and disadvantages of
> that solution (especially in comparison to a Windows-like model of
> two-standalone computers)? Is it worth the effort?*
> I look forward for reading your advices. This is something I have never
> done before (and I hope to learn something about Linux and computers in
> general).
> TIA!
> Wojciech Podgórni
>
> * I would use the thin client to browse the Web, for editing texts and
> listening to the music - but I generally consider it as an exercise in
> Linux administration. I have never worked on ANY network before (not
> counting me being a ISP client).
You should be able to use any keyboard by getting an AT to PS2 keyboard 
adaptor.  Small little thingy that the ps2 plug fits in one end and the 
larger diameter AT plug goes into the computer. I assume from the equipment 
list that that is what you have and not a seriel connection for the keyboard. 
Sound cards I have experience with ensoniq and Creative labs  SBlive sound 
cards either should work for your purposes. HTH
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[newbie] mldonkey makes swap memory too low.

2004-04-07 Thread otavio augusto viegas




Have anyone experienced the same problem as follows?

Whem i run Mldonkey, or as a service with mlnet, the swap usage goes up till I must reboot. I have 256 MB of swap and in a few hours I have only 4 MB of swap space.

This only happens when I run Mlnet ou Mldondey, I've check with top and Mldonkey-gui or mlnet is the process which consumes more memory ou processor.

How could I fix it?

thanks

Otavio





Re: [newbie] Unpleasant stigma on Mandrake users

2004-04-07 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Thursday 08 April 2004 08:09 am, Marv Boyes wrote:

> I got it in person once, in a retail store.
>
> I was in the local CompUSA and eventually ended up chatting with one of
> the store employees about Linux-- he caught me looking at a FreeBSD
> boxed set, or something, and we ended up talking about Linux/free OSes
> in general. About five minutes into the conversation, I mentioned that I
> was running Mandrake 9.2.
>
> "I have no use for anything derivative of the Red Hat kernel," he said,
> and walked away.
>
> What the HELL was that all about? You'd think I told the guy that I kill
> puppies in my spare time. Someone's priorities are seriously out of
> whack if they can afford that kind of snobbery over _code_, for crying
> out loud.
>
> It's a shame it was CompUSA, too-- the one retail store around here
> that's even remotely Linux-friendly. Principle says, "don't go back
> there." Consumerism says, "you ain't gonna find that external hard drive
> enclosure cheaper anywhere else, or take it home today." ;) Far be it
> from me to let principle stand in the way of a bargain.
>
> But why couldn't it have been a Circuit City, or someplace similarly
> useless that I wouldn't mind never setting foot in again? ;)
>
> Mandrake's a good, solid distro. As long as you're enjoying it, don't
> let anyone tell you otherwise.
>
> Marv

Too bad you got it too Marv.
Well, I'm firing up two IBM xseries servers with Mdk and nothing's gonna stop 
them. One to be placed in public, and the other in LAN.

On the other hand, Linux desktop initiative has been started, and someday 
those "super Linux gurus" will beg for easiness once their users start 
complaining that their Linux is "too difficult" to be used in desktop.

Sorry for the harsh word. My father has asked me to help him install windows 
98 in chinese, and I don't know any single word of it. 
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Re: [newbie] Mldonkey

2004-04-07 Thread otavio augusto viegas




If you tipe mlnet, mldonkey will run as a service. I guess it will start at boot, if you don t change the settings.


Em Qua, 2004-04-07 às 22:42, Dave Ashmore escreveu:

bascule wrote:

>did you start 'mlnet'?
>
>bascule
>
>On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 4:52 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
>  
>
>>Well, I've always used Mldonkey  with no problems but just recently
>>I did the urpmi --auto-select thing and got a newer version of Mldonkey.
>>Flashy, nice gui...and not worth a damn. It starts with this fancy screen
>>with the penguin in the middle with all the networks around it. Greyed out.
>>Not working. Not connecting. I tried going into settings/options but
>>there's nothing that I can see that will help.
>>
>>The older version had a gui, and it was fairly straightforward and worked
>>great here.
>>
>>Any ideas on how to get the new one working (or how to get back to the
>>older version since urpmi always finds the new version now?)
>>
>>Thanks much.
>>
>>
>
>  
>
Ok, so I have to go to console and type mlnet before I start the Gui?
Shouldn't this start when the gui starts?
I tried Mldonkey too and got nothing then when I typed mlnet in console 
and then the gui it worked.
Thanks
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[newbie] MD10 can't see stuff....

2004-04-07 Thread Olwë Melwasúl
Hello,

I installed a community download version of 10 and the install seemed to 
go smoothly. However, I cannot get it to recognize my US Robotics 56k 
PCI modem. On the WinXP side (if I can get MD to work Win goes!), the 
modem is at COM4, INT10. I've tried sticking this into the system 
hardware wizard, but to no avail. Similarly, MD doesn't see my CD-ROM, 
even though I installed with it.

Olwe


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Re: [newbie] Mldonkey

2004-04-07 Thread Dave Ashmore
bascule wrote:

did you start 'mlnet'?

bascule

On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 4:52 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 

Well, I've always used Mldonkey  with no problems but just recently
I did the urpmi --auto-select thing and got a newer version of Mldonkey.
Flashy, nice gui...and not worth a damn. It starts with this fancy screen
with the penguin in the middle with all the networks around it. Greyed out.
Not working. Not connecting. I tried going into settings/options but
there's nothing that I can see that will help.
The older version had a gui, and it was fairly straightforward and worked
great here.
Any ideas on how to get the new one working (or how to get back to the
older version since urpmi always finds the new version now?)
Thanks much.
   

 

Ok, so I have to go to console and type mlnet before I start the Gui?
Shouldn't this start when the gui starts?
I tried Mldonkey too and got nothing then when I typed mlnet in console 
and then the gui it worked.
Thanks
Dave Ashmore


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Re: [newbie] Unpleasant stigma on Mandrake users

2004-04-07 Thread Marv Boyes
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 10:05, Fajar Priyanto wrote:

 

Guys,
What do you think of this:
"Because you run Mandrake, you didn't invest the 20-30 minutes that most 
Shorewall users do in learning about Shorewall during the installation 
process."

That is a response I got in the shorewall list. I hate it. In fact, I have 
been getting those kind of views from many people in the Linux community when 
they found out that I use Mandrake. 

What's wrong with Mandrake? Does Linux have to be difficult so that we are 
proud to be called "Linux guru" by others? Does the easiness that offered by 
Mandrake make it's users lazy and stupid? I'm afraid this is the unpleasant 
stigma that we get in the Linux community.

Boy, I hate this.
   

Look, some geeks get their panties in a wad over distros - and it
actually shouldln't matter. The reality is that we're not using a
Microsoft OS. That's it. Full stop.
When someone comes at you with that, counter it with:
"Should I just run WindowsXP Professional instead?"
-OR-
"Everyone has their own opnion on linux distros; is it not enough that
I'm running linux in the first place?"
stephen kuhn - owner
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I got it in person once, in a retail store.

I was in the local CompUSA and eventually ended up chatting with one of 
the store employees about Linux-- he caught me looking at a FreeBSD 
boxed set, or something, and we ended up talking about Linux/free OSes 
in general. About five minutes into the conversation, I mentioned that I 
was running Mandrake 9.2.

"I have no use for anything derivative of the Red Hat kernel," he said, 
and walked away.

What the HELL was that all about? You'd think I told the guy that I kill 
puppies in my spare time. Someone's priorities are seriously out of 
whack if they can afford that kind of snobbery over _code_, for crying 
out loud.

It's a shame it was CompUSA, too-- the one retail store around here 
that's even remotely Linux-friendly. Principle says, "don't go back 
there." Consumerism says, "you ain't gonna find that external hard drive 
enclosure cheaper anywhere else, or take it home today." ;) Far be it 
from me to let principle stand in the way of a bargain.

But why couldn't it have been a Circuit City, or someplace similarly 
useless that I wouldn't mind never setting foot in again? ;)

Mandrake's a good, solid distro. As long as you're enjoying it, don't 
let anyone tell you otherwise.

Marv

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[newbie]New-old computer advice request

2004-04-07 Thread Wojciech Podgórni
Hello, everyone!
I have just bought a used computer. The technical details are:
Intel Celeron 300MHz
392 MB RAM (SDRAM)
8 GB HDD (empty)
52x CD-ROM (LG - although I didn't have any problems with this one on M9.2)
3,5" floppy drive
10/100 Mb/s Realtek Ethernet card
NVIDIA GeForce 256 DDR video card
...and that's all.
I still have to buy a keyboard (an older kind than PS/2), sound card and 
mouse. I plan to use my computer for my in-house networking practices 
(along with my new, shiny - and smelly - Athlon XP 2,4 GHz, 512 MB 
computer). I have a few questions and I will be very greatful if anyone 
will give any answer to them:
1) What keyboard, mouse and (especially) sound card should I buy? I want 
the computer to fully work under Linux. I know from the Mandrake 9.2 
hardware compability list that:
a) mouses made by Genius, Logitech and Microsoft generally work
b) keyboards made by Cherry, Logitech and Microsoft work
c) here list of compatible sound cards is somewhat longer (but the ones 
made by: Acer Inc., Acer Lab. Inc., Adlib, Adopen, Asus, Atrend, Audio 
Excel, Aureal, Aztech, C-Media El. Inc., Cirrus Logic, Creative Labs, 
Ensoniq, ESS Tech., ForteMedia Inc., HERCULES, IC Ensemble Inc., INTEL, 
Platform Tech. Inc.,  S3 Inc., Sil. Int. Sys., Trident Microsys., VIA 
Tech., Xilinx Inc. and YAMAHA have been reported to be working).
I know the list is hardly complete. The big question is what should I 
ask Linux-ignorant sellers to obtain a cheap and functional set?
2) I am thinking of using the older computer as a thin client (the new 
one would be my server). What are the advantages and disadvantages of 
that solution (especially in comparison to a Windows-like model of 
two-standalone computers)? Is it worth the effort?*
I look forward for reading your advices. This is something I have never 
done before (and I hope to learn something about Linux and computers in 
general).
TIA!
Wojciech Podgórni

* I would use the thin client to browse the Web, for editing texts and 
listening to the music - but I generally consider it as an exercise in 
Linux administration. I have never worked on ANY network before (not 
counting me being a ISP client).


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Re: [newbie] samba problem

2004-04-07 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 21:58, Klemens Arro wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have samba server running, but I can't connect to any other win server's
> neither can they connect to my server.
>
> I have tried to configure it with MCC samba wizard, but it fails when it
> asks for allowed users and I have tried to configure it with SWAT, but I
> cant get it to work. :'(
>
> I added my smb.conf file as attachment.
>
> Thanks!
The trouble with using SWAT is that it replaces the original Mandrake config 
file which is heavily annotated and has defaults which work "out of the box".

I suggest you replace your config file with the default you will find 
at /usr/share/samba/smb.conf.clean and then start again from there.
Reading the default config file will give you a lot of hints.

Before users can connect to their home directories on your server you must 
execute the command
smbpasswd -a user_name
where user_name is a logon name that exits in both windows and Linux 
environments. You will be prompted for the *Windows* password of that user 
which does not have to be the same as that users Linux password.

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[newbie] The SUNset on Microsoft - slightly OT

2004-04-07 Thread Kaj Haulrich
Dear list members, this article in FORTUNE clarifies matters :
http://www.freehills.com/CA256AD900137BAA/page/Listing-ait-Open+source+software:
+What+is+it+and+how+does+it+work%3F00201A46?opendocument&1=50-Publications~&2=~&3=~&REFUNID=~undefined
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Re: [newbie] IP address converter?

2004-04-07 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 07:56 pm, rikona wrote:
> RU> The IP address refers to the address of the machine through a
> particular RU> network port.
>
> RU> The Ethernet address refers to a particular network card.
>
> I'm not sure I understand the difference for one computer with one
> NIC. Wouldn't they both be equivalent to 192.168.0.4, for example?

No, the ip address or the nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn as you called it is a software 
assigned address.  The xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx address is hardcoded into the nic 
and each nic has a unique one.  This is called a mac address.

A dhcp server will read the mac address and use this to reserve a specific ip 
address for a machine throughout the lease period, but they are not related 
in any way.
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Re: [newbie] Mldonkey

2004-04-07 Thread bascule
did you start 'mlnet'?

bascule

On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 4:52 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Well, I've always used Mldonkey  with no problems but just recently
> I did the urpmi --auto-select thing and got a newer version of Mldonkey.
> Flashy, nice gui...and not worth a damn. It starts with this fancy screen
> with the penguin in the middle with all the networks around it. Greyed out.
> Not working. Not connecting. I tried going into settings/options but
> there's nothing that I can see that will help.
>
> The older version had a gui, and it was fairly straightforward and worked
> great here.
>
> Any ideas on how to get the new one working (or how to get back to the
> older version since urpmi always finds the new version now?)
>
> Thanks much.

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Re: [newbie] Unpleasant stigma on Mandrake users

2004-04-07 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 10:05, Fajar Priyanto wrote:

> Guys,
> What do you think of this:
> "Because you run Mandrake, you didn't invest the 20-30 minutes that most 
> Shorewall users do in learning about Shorewall during the installation 
> process."
> 
> That is a response I got in the shorewall list. I hate it. In fact, I have 
> been getting those kind of views from many people in the Linux community when 
> they found out that I use Mandrake. 
> 
> What's wrong with Mandrake? Does Linux have to be difficult so that we are 
> proud to be called "Linux guru" by others? Does the easiness that offered by 
> Mandrake make it's users lazy and stupid? I'm afraid this is the unpleasant 
> stigma that we get in the Linux community.
> 
> Boy, I hate this.

Look, some geeks get their panties in a wad over distros - and it
actually shouldln't matter. The reality is that we're not using a
Microsoft OS. That's it. Full stop.

When someone comes at you with that, counter it with:
"Should I just run WindowsXP Professional instead?"
-OR-
"Everyone has their own opnion on linux distros; is it not enough that
I'm running linux in the first place?"

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Re: [newbie] samba problem

2004-04-07 Thread Klemens Arro
On Thursday 08 April 2004 00:50, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> Could be that your firewall is blocking port 137, 138 and 139?
>

I don't think so. I have allowed "Samba server" from mcc Firewall

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Re: [newbie] Connected info disappears from taskbar.

2004-04-07 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:30 pm, many eyes viewed Hoyt Bailey's words:-
> When I click on kppp the standard login process appears with the login
> window appears and shows in the taskbar.  When connection is made the
> info in the taskbar normally changes to the "connected to .
> This information is disappearing from the task bar.  As a result I
> cannot disconnect kppp without loging out.  This is a pain how can I
> fix this?

In KPPP setup just enable KPPP to be placed in the taskbar on connect.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-07 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 12:20, Richard Urwin wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 Apr 2004 7:44 am, Job Evers wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:23:38 -0400
> >
> > JoeHill wrote:
> > > Anyhow, IQ tests are unreliable, culturally and
> > > socio-economically biased, and not necessarily an indication of
> > > true intelligence.
> >
> > I especially love the 'IQ tests' online.  They range from answer 12
> > stupid questions (after a couple of tries its pretty easy to get
> > all 12 right :-)) to the really long super hard pattern recognition
> > tests.
>
> The one I liked the most just kept asking questions until you gave
> up, and then reported your IQ based on how long it took you to
> realise that it wasn't going to stop. (Sorry, I don't have a link.)
>
> This one's a bit of fun (doesn't measure IQ though)
> http://www.soronlin.org.uk/geekquiz.html
>
> I learnt a lot of Javascript doing it too.
>
> > > Mine's 136 :-D
>
> hmm... 136D
> I hope that's metric.
>
> > Never taken a real one.  I've scored anywhere between 110 on some
> > stupid british test (cultural bias) to 180 on one of those 12
> > question tests :-)
>
> Mine's 148 = 2 standard deviations, as measured by Mensa. (ie I
> squeeked in). It's 110 as measured by a stupid British TV show.
geez I thought TV lowered IQ by at least 50.
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Re: [newbie] Installing PCI cards

2004-04-07 Thread et
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 06:05 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> Does anybody have any good links for doing this in the simplest way. I know
> basic Linux, but need to hit the ground running with these cards. I have
> installed them into the box and lspci see's them but there are no tty's in
> /dev. I understand that I need to create the tty's and set them up with
> information which I think I have got using a few other commands. I just
> need a good how-to to hold my hand through it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony.
>
> p.s. Mandrake 9.1 if that helps.

I thought I had written and asked for more specs on the cards and MoBos 
(etc...) often a succesfull loading of the correct modules for the cards will 
create the correct entries in /dev using devfs (in 9.1) but when are you 
going to get modern and go with a 2.6 kernel and 10.0???


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Re: [newbie] Connected info disappears from taskbar.

2004-04-07 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 07:32, et wrote:

> > killall -KILL pppd
> >
> so should a (little more elegant) as 'ifdown ppp'.

I like killing things. KILL KILL KILL.

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Re: [newbie] ACPI

2004-04-07 Thread et
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 05:51 pm, Margot wrote:
> brife wrote:
> > During boot the 2.6 kernel tells me that ACPI is disabled because my
> > bios is too old (2000).  It also tells me that I can override this with
> > acpi=force.  Trouble is I don't know what config file this should go in.
> >
> > Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
> > Brandon
>
> /etc/lilo.conf in the append line(s) - if you are using lilo.
>
> Margot
to first try it out, when the lilo menu appears durring your boot up, hit 
escape key, and type in linux acpi=force, this will boot the default linux 
kernel, but with acpi forced enabled, but I would first want to make sure 
that my computer used acpi, and not apm instead, if it were me  
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Re: [newbie] samba problem

2004-04-07 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 06:58, Klemens Arro wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have samba server running, but I can't connect to any other win server's 
> neither can they connect to my server.
> 
> I have tried to configure it with MCC samba wizard, but it fails when it asks 
> for allowed users and I have tried to configure it with SWAT, but I cant get 
> it to work. :'(
> 
> I added my smb.conf file as attachment.
> 
> Thanks!

Could be that your firewall is blocking port 137, 138 and 139?

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Re: [newbie] ACPI

2004-04-07 Thread Margot
brife wrote:
During boot the 2.6 kernel tells me that ACPI is disabled because my
bios is too old (2000).  It also tells me that I can override this with
acpi=force.  Trouble is I don't know what config file this should go in.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
Brandon

/etc/lilo.conf in the append line(s) - if you are using lilo.

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Re: [newbie] postoffice in linux

2004-04-07 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 05:35, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 April 2004 03:58 pm, hugenots wrote:
> > Haiz newbie,
> >
> >   I know this is unplesant question, bt is there any way for linux
> >   users work with microsoft mail...
> >
> >   and is there something like M$ mail under linux?
> >
> > 
> > force, my friend, is violence!
> >  hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> You mean you want to access ms mail server? Or ms user accessing
> linux mail server?
> Both ways: no problem.
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[newbie] ACPI

2004-04-07 Thread brife
During boot the 2.6 kernel tells me that ACPI is disabled because my
bios is too old (2000).  It also tells me that I can override this with
acpi=force.  Trouble is I don't know what config file this should go in.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
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Re: [newbie] Seems Sun and Microsoft are making nice nice...slightly OT

2004-04-07 Thread robin
Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 07:20, robin wrote:
 

...just wonder what type of resource it's going to require...and how
fast it'll run on my sad little AMD XP2000...
Well, if you thought KDE was resource-hungry 

Sir Robin


Cray-DE and Guh-nome can't live in my world. Dog-awful slow. Like a herd
of turtles crossing a plain of peanut butter. In the winter. The
screenshots DID look rather interesting, but doing things from an xterm
in 3D just don't sound right.
Although there will be a Linux version, I get the impression that the 
main target initially will be Solaris, and the kind of people who run 
Solaris generally have more CPU cycles than they know what to do with.

For the rest of us, the mere fact that it's written in Java sounds ominous.

Q: How many Java programmers does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: As many as Sun can throw at it. They change it with lightning speed, 
but now there's a ten second delay between flipping the switch and the 
light coming on.

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Re: [newbie] Connected info disappears from taskbar.

2004-04-07 Thread et
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 03:45 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 22:30, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> > When I click on kppp the standard login process appears with the login
> > window appears and shows in the taskbar.  When connection is made the
> > info in the taskbar normally changes to the "connected to .
> > This information is disappearing from the task bar.  As a result I
> > cannot disconnect kppp without loging out.  This is a pain how can I
> > fix this?
>
> Well, not using KDE but still using KPPP, I don't necessarily have that
> problem, but you CAN, however, open a term and type:
>
> killall -KILL pppd
>
so should a (little more elegant) as 'ifdown ppp'.

> That will effectively kill the connection.
>
> Double check all the settings in KPPP - I prefer to have the "connected"
> dialogue up so that I can see what's going on...
>
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-07 Thread et
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 05:20 pm, et wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 April 2004 01:20 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 06 Apr 2004 7:44 am, Job Evers wrote:
> > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:23:38 -0400
> > >
> > > JoeHill wrote:
> > > > Anyhow, IQ tests are unreliable, culturally and socio-economically
> > > > biased, and not necessarily an indication of true intelligence.
> > >
> > > I especially love the 'IQ tests' online.  They range from answer 12
> > > stupid questions (after a couple of tries its pretty easy to get all
> > > 12 right :-)) to the really long super hard pattern recognition
> > > tests.
> >
> > The one I liked the most just kept asking questions until you gave up,
> > and then reported your IQ based on how long it took you to realise that
> > it wasn't going to stop. (Sorry, I don't have a link.)
> >
> > This one's a bit of fun (doesn't measure IQ though)
> > http://www.soronlin.org.uk/geekquiz.html
> >
> > I learnt a lot of Javascript doing it too.
> >
> > > > Mine's 136 :-D
> >
> > hmm... 136D
> > I hope that's metric.
> >
> > > Never taken a real one.  I've scored anywhere between 110 on some
> > > stupid british test (cultural bias) to 180 on one of those 12
> > > question tests :-)
> >
> > Mine's 148 = 2 standard deviations, as measured by Mensa. (ie I squeeked
> > in).
>
> has it ever occurred to your Mensa group, that if you are smart enough to
> be in Mensa, you really ought to be smart enough to consider anything
> elitist to be morally wrong?


and it occurs to me if I am stupid enough to post, shouldn't I be at least 
bright enough to use the speell checker

> > It's 110 as measured by a stupid British TV show.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-07 Thread et
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 01:20 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 Apr 2004 7:44 am, Job Evers wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:23:38 -0400
> >
> > JoeHill wrote:
> > > Anyhow, IQ tests are unreliable, culturally and socio-economically
> > > biased, and not necessarily an indication of true intelligence.
> >
> > I especially love the 'IQ tests' online.  They range from answer 12
> > stupid questions (after a couple of tries its pretty easy to get all
> > 12 right :-)) to the really long super hard pattern recognition
> > tests.
>
> The one I liked the most just kept asking questions until you gave up,
> and then reported your IQ based on how long it took you to realise that
> it wasn't going to stop. (Sorry, I don't have a link.)
>
> This one's a bit of fun (doesn't measure IQ though)
> http://www.soronlin.org.uk/geekquiz.html
>
> I learnt a lot of Javascript doing it too.
>
> > > Mine's 136 :-D
>
> hmm... 136D
> I hope that's metric.
>
> > Never taken a real one.  I've scored anywhere between 110 on some
> > stupid british test (cultural bias) to 180 on one of those 12
> > question tests :-)
>
> Mine's 148 = 2 standard deviations, as measured by Mensa. (ie I squeeked
> in).

has it ever occuored to your mensa group, that if you are smart enough to be 
in Mensa, you rerally ought to be smart enough to consider anything eliteist 
to be morally wrong?
> It's 110 as measured by a stupid British TV show. 

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10 CE and smp kernel

2004-04-07 Thread et
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 09:38 am, Dan Gordon wrote:
> On April 7, 2004 01:46 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 07:27, et wrote:
> > > just out of curiosity, which CPU do you have???
>
> Looks like i did not get ed's post so it the question was for me its a
> Intel P4 3.0C 800Mz FSB
>
> Regards,
> Dan Gordon
I see you already got it figured out,,,
the HT p4 can be seen as a dual CPU.
 about the only non-video processing application I have any idea that would be 
able to see any advantage between the SMP kernel and a UP kernel, for a hyper 
threaded box would be running more than 1 instance of setiathome. but do let 
us know if it seems different in any manner, I would like to know.
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Re: [newbie] samba problem

2004-04-07 Thread Klemens Arro
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 23:58, Klemens Arro wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have samba server running, but I can't connect to any other win server's
> neither can they connect to my server.
>
> I have tried to configure it with MCC samba wizard, but it fails when it
> asks for allowed users and I have tried to configure it with SWAT, but I
> cant get it to work. :'(
>
> I added my smb.conf file as attachment.
>
> Thanks!

I forgot to tell, I have a samba 3 server (default from mdk 10/cooker)

sorry

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[newbie] samba problem

2004-04-07 Thread Klemens Arro
Hi,

I have samba server running, but I can't connect to any other win server's 
neither can they connect to my server.

I have tried to configure it with MCC samba wizard, but it fails when it asks 
for allowed users and I have tried to configure it with SWAT, but I cant get 
it to work. :'(

I added my smb.conf file as attachment.

Thanks!
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Using: Mandrake Linux 10
Registered Linux User#: 346118
ICQ#: 179198850
# Samba config file created using SWAT
# from 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1)
# Date: 2004/04/07 23:23:33

# Global parameters
[global]
dos charset = CP850
unix charset = UTF-8
display charset = LOCALE
workgroup = VIRTUALHOME
realm = 
netbios name = NOLIFE
netbios aliases = 
netbios scope = 
server string = Nolife systems
interfaces = 
bind interfaces only = No
security = SHARE
auth methods = 
encrypt passwords = Yes
update encrypted = No
client schannel = Auto
server schannel = Auto
allow trusted domains = Yes
hosts equiv = 
min passwd length = 5
map to guest = Bad User
null passwords = No
obey pam restrictions = No
password server = *
smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd
private dir = /etc/samba
passdb backend = smbpasswd
algorithmic rid base = 1000
root directory = 
guest account = nobody
pam password change = No
passwd program = 
passwd chat = *new*password* %n\n *new*password* %n\n *changed*
passwd chat debug = No
passwd chat timeout = 2
username map = 
password level = 0
username level = 0
unix password sync = No
restrict anonymous = 0
lanman auth = Yes
ntlm auth = Yes
client NTLMv2 auth = No
client lanman auth = Yes
client plaintext auth = Yes
preload modules = 
log level = 0
syslog = 1
syslog only = No
log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
max log size = 50
timestamp logs = Yes
debug hires timestamp = No
debug pid = No
debug uid = No
smb ports = 445 139
protocol = NT1
large readwrite = Yes
max protocol = NT1
min protocol = CORE
unicode = Yes
read bmpx = No
read raw = Yes
write raw = Yes
disable netbios = No
acl compatibility = 
nt pipe support = Yes
nt status support = Yes
announce version = 4.9
announce as = NT
max mux = 50
max xmit = 16644
name resolve order = lmhosts wins host bcast
max ttl = 259200
max wins ttl = 518400
min wins ttl = 21600
time server = No
unix extensions = Yes
use spnego = Yes
client signing = auto
server signing = auto
client use spnego = Yes
change notify timeout = 60
deadtime = 0
getwd cache = Yes
keepalive = 300
kernel change notify = Yes
lpq cache time = 10
max smbd processes = 0
paranoid server security = Yes
max disk size = 0
max open files = 1
socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_SNDBUF=8192 SO_RCVBUF=8192
use mmap = Yes
hostname lookups = No
name cache timeout = 660
load printers = Yes
printcap name = cups
disable spoolss = No
enumports command = 
addprinter command = 
deleteprinter command = 
show add printer wizard = Yes
os2 driver map = 
mangling method = hash2
mangle prefix = 1
stat cache = Yes
machine password timeout = 604800
add user script = 
delete user script = 
add group script = 
delete group script = 
add user to group script = 
delete user from group script = 
set primary group script = 
add machine script = 
shutdown script = 
abort shutdown script = 
logon script = 
logon path = \\%N\%U\profile
logon drive = 
logon home = \\%N\%U
domain logons = No
os level = 20
lm announce = Auto
lm interval = 60
preferred master = No
local master = Yes
domain master = No
browse list = Yes
enhanced browsing = Yes
dns proxy = No
wins proxy = No
wins server = 
wins support = Yes
wins hook = 
wins partners = 
kernel oplocks = Yes
lock spin count = 3
lock spin time = 10
oplock break wait time = 0
ldap suffix = 
ldap machine suffix = 
ldap user suffix = 
ldap group suffix = 
ldap idmap suffix = 
ldap filter = (uid=%u)
ldap admin dn = 
  

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10 CE and smp kernel

2004-04-07 Thread et
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 01:46 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 07:27, et wrote:
> > just out of curiosity, which CPU do you have???
>
> Just out of curiosity, Ed, what made you send me those disks?
>
> NOT that I'm complaining, it was a great great gift, mate. Nice to come
> home to after a week of working for someone else...
>
> Just wondering.

why, were they blank? you did get the one of Joe hill doing it with the space 
alien? that was him on his knees... (rotflmao)


>
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> ==
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Re: [newbie] Gnome 2.6 for mandrake?

2004-04-07 Thread Jonas Claesson
On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 22:21, Edgars Smits wrote:
> Any idea when there will be a release of Gnome 2.6 ready for Mandrake 
> 10CE? I looked at the gnome source files, and decided I was too much of 
> a newbie to compile them all etc. correctly on my working laptop.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> ED
> 
It is already there, information posted in cooker maillist.

Should be available any day now, as soon as servers are synced.

/Jonas
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[newbie] Gnome 2.6 for mandrake?

2004-04-07 Thread Edgars Smits
Any idea when there will be a release of Gnome 2.6 ready for Mandrake 
10CE? I looked at the gnome source files, and decided I was too much of 
a newbie to compile them all etc. correctly on my working laptop.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Re: Decent Audio Track Ripper?

2004-04-07 Thread Paul
On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 22:49, Björn Lundin wrote:
> Marc Resnick wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know of a decent track ripper/encoder for ripping tracks off
> > CDs? 
> Konqueror, from the service meny, choose from, wav, ogg or mp3;
> individual seetings somewhere in kde's servicepanel.
> (But this is kde 3.1 on 9.1, don't know kde 3.2)
> /Björn
> 
> 


grip

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Re: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-07 Thread Ronald
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Op woensdag 7 april 2004 18:27, schreef hugenots:
> actualy, main features is posibility to share callendar, contacts,
> make meeting requests...
> someting what outlook does over ms mail.
>
> so I need the very server, mali client for linux Working like outlook
> and some kind of integrity with M$ outlook.

maybe this is what you are looking for..

http://www.kontact.org
http://kolab.kde.org
http://egroupware.org
http://opengroupware.org

HTH.  ronald
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[newbie] Re: Decent Audio Track Ripper?

2004-04-07 Thread Björn Lundin
Marc Resnick wrote:

> Does anyone know of a decent track ripper/encoder for ripping tracks off
> CDs? 
Konqueror, from the service meny, choose from, wav, ogg or mp3;
individual seetings somewhere in kde's servicepanel.
(But this is kde 3.1 on 9.1, don't know kde 3.2)
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Re: [newbie] Connected info disappears from taskbar.

2004-04-07 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 22:30, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> When I click on kppp the standard login process appears with the login 
> window appears and shows in the taskbar.  When connection is made the 
> info in the taskbar normally changes to the "connected to .  
> This information is disappearing from the task bar.  As a result I 
> cannot disconnect kppp without loging out.  This is a pain how can I 
> fix this?

Well, not using KDE but still using KPPP, I don't necessarily have that
problem, but you CAN, however, open a term and type:

killall -KILL pppd

That will effectively kill the connection.

Double check all the settings in KPPP - I prefer to have the "connected"
dialogue up so that I can see what's going on...

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==
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Re: [newbie] Kernel update woes

2004-04-07 Thread Rick Kunath
I tried kernels using urpmi also, but have reverted to the way I did them for 
years...

Download and install the kernel sources for the new kernel.

Download the rpm's for whichever variety of kernel(s) you want. Logon as root 
and install the rpms.

Open etc/lilo.conf with an editor and make sure the stanza is there for every 
new kernel. 

Open a terminal as root and issue a lilo -v command.

Reboot and try out the new kernels.

If you are satisfied that the new kernel operates correctly, open lilo.conf 
again and change the default boot entry to the *label* of the kernel you want 
to boot as a default. As root, open a terminal and issue lilo -v

That's all there is to it.

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Re: [newbie] Synaptic pad tapping in v10

2004-04-07 Thread Stephanus Fengler
Hi Oliver,

if you want to compare your XF86Conifg-4 with mine,  I posted it here 
some days ago for the topic:
Savage, AGP Memory

cheers,
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Re: [newbie] Kernel update woes

2004-04-07 Thread Pablo Vitoria
Hi,

I experienced exactly the same when updating from 2.4.22-26 to 2.4.22-28.
I searched the web and this list looking for answers and I found none. After
several attepmts to run 'lilo' with different options (all unsuccessful with
the same error message), I decided to be brave (I have a full back up of my
system) and rebooted. To my surprise, all went well, but the system started
with the old kernel. I guess this is because, as lilo failed, nothing was
changed. So I think the links in /boot are used by LILO to update the boot
loader, but the real paths to kernel, etc, are used in the boot loader.
Then I entered 'lilo -v' (after changing all links in /boot to point to the
new kernel), and this time there was no error. One more reboot and now I am
running the latest kernel.

Pablo


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- Original Message - 
From: "Len Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:41 PM
Subject: [newbie] Kernel update woes


| On advice from Mandrake Expert I have just installed the 2.4.22-28 kernel
to
| replace the 2.4.22-10 supplied with Mandrake 9.2 ProSuite.
| When the RPM installed via urpmi an error occurred at the /sbin/lilo
stage:
|   error regenerating lilo
| The lilo.conf looked OK so I ran /sbin/lilo again and it returned
|   Fatal: volid read error.
|
| Anybody know what that means?  It could be a disk corruption I suppose,
| something in the MBR sector, so I should be worried right?  I cannot risk
a
| reboot with things the way they are because several links in /boot
| have been reassigned in the direction of the new kernel, which would
probably
| lead to a kernel panic.  The next stage would be to try and restore the
old
| links.
|
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-07 Thread Richard Urwin
On Tuesday 06 Apr 2004 7:44 am, Job Evers wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:23:38 -0400
>
> JoeHill wrote:
> > Anyhow, IQ tests are unreliable, culturally and socio-economically
> > biased, and not necessarily an indication of true intelligence.
>
> I especially love the 'IQ tests' online.  They range from answer 12
> stupid questions (after a couple of tries its pretty easy to get all
> 12 right :-)) to the really long super hard pattern recognition
> tests.

The one I liked the most just kept asking questions until you gave up, 
and then reported your IQ based on how long it took you to realise that 
it wasn't going to stop. (Sorry, I don't have a link.)

This one's a bit of fun (doesn't measure IQ though) 
http://www.soronlin.org.uk/geekquiz.html

I learnt a lot of Javascript doing it too.

> > Mine's 136 :-D

hmm... 136D
I hope that's metric.

>
> Never taken a real one.  I've scored anywhere between 110 on some
> stupid british test (cultural bias) to 180 on one of those 12
> question tests :-)

Mine's 148 = 2 standard deviations, as measured by Mensa. (ie I squeeked 
in). It's 110 as measured by a stupid British TV show.

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Re: [newbie] Synaptic pad tapping in v10

2004-04-07 Thread Stephanus Fengler
Marc Resnick wrote:

Stephanus Fengler wrote:

Oliver Marshall wrote:

Hi.

I have just installed Mandrake 10 on my laptop, and it looks amazing.
Thing is, two things don't work, the Synaptics touch pad tapping and 
the
pcmcia wi-fi card which is a Belkin model based on the Atmel drivers.

Being a linux newbie im hoping to get some help getting them up and
working. The PCMCIA card isn't too urgent, as I have seen an Orinoco
model on ebay which I am told will work outta the box. The synaptics 
pad
is a pain though.

I have found some instructions on the net, but they basically say
"recompile the kernal with this setting" which goes WAAAYYY over my
head.
Does anyone have some detailed, perfect for newbies, blow by blow
instructions for how to get the synaptics tapping working ?
Olly

Hi Oliver,
you don't need to recompile the kernel. Everything works with it. 
What you need to do is, you have to compile synaptics driver, which 
worked for me out of the box without any difficulties. Basically just 
follow the instructions in the README file which comes with the 
synaptic.tar.gz
After that you have to modify your XF86Config-4 to your needs. My 
touchpad section e.g. looks like:

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier "Touchpad"
   Driver "synaptics"
   Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
   Option "MaxSpeed" "0.18"
   Option "MinSpeed" "0.02"
   Option "BottomEdge" "4700"
   Option "UpDownScrolling" "on"
   Option "SHMConfig" "on"
   Option "LeftEdge" "1300"
   Option "FingerLow" "20"
   Option "MaxTapTime" "180"
   Option "MaxTapMove" "220"
   Option "FingerHigh" "30"
   Option "VertScrollDelta" "100"
   Option "TopEdge" "1300"
   Option "RightEdge" "5700"
   Option "AccelFactor" "0.001"
EndSection
which is in a way optimized for my hp pavilion zt3000 notebook.

Cheers,
fengler
 
I too am having this problem. What I did was urpmi the synaptics 
driver. Then, it still didn't work. So it was suggested to me to add 
evdev to /etc/modules.preload. Now, it only works after a reboot, 
until I plug a mouse in. Weird.
Hi all,
I really recommend to compile the newest version. On/Off Button, 
Touchclick etc.. and all the feature work for me. Maybe you want to 
check if your version is uptodate.
http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/files/synaptics-0.12.5.tar.bz2
I don't know which version urpmi installs, but this one here works 
really smooth for me.
If you have trouble in doing this, I am here and glad if I can answer 
your questions.

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Re: [newbie] hosting my own web site

2004-04-07 Thread Richard Urwin
On Sunday 04 Apr 2004 1:04 pm, et wrote:
> I would also make sure I was NOT running mod_proxy... that was the
> 'mailing exploit' mentioned in an earlier message.

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Re: [newbie] Synaptic pad tapping in v10

2004-04-07 Thread Marc Resnick
Stephanus Fengler wrote:

Oliver Marshall wrote:

Hi.

I have just installed Mandrake 10 on my laptop, and it looks amazing.
Thing is, two things don't work, the Synaptics touch pad tapping and the
pcmcia wi-fi card which is a Belkin model based on the Atmel drivers.
Being a linux newbie im hoping to get some help getting them up and
working. The PCMCIA card isn't too urgent, as I have seen an Orinoco
model on ebay which I am told will work outta the box. The synaptics pad
is a pain though.
I have found some instructions on the net, but they basically say
"recompile the kernal with this setting" which goes WAAAYYY over my
head.
Does anyone have some detailed, perfect for newbies, blow by blow
instructions for how to get the synaptics tapping working ?
Olly

Hi Oliver,
you don't need to recompile the kernel. Everything works with it. What 
you need to do is, you have to compile synaptics driver, which worked 
for me out of the box without any difficulties. Basically just follow 
the instructions in the README file which comes with the synaptic.tar.gz
After that you have to modify your XF86Config-4 to your needs. My 
touchpad section e.g. looks like:

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier "Touchpad"
   Driver "synaptics"
   Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
   Option "MaxSpeed" "0.18"
   Option "MinSpeed" "0.02"
   Option "BottomEdge" "4700"
   Option "UpDownScrolling" "on"
   Option "SHMConfig" "on"
   Option "LeftEdge" "1300"
   Option "FingerLow" "20"
   Option "MaxTapTime" "180"
   Option "MaxTapMove" "220"
   Option "FingerHigh" "30"
   Option "VertScrollDelta" "100"
   Option "TopEdge" "1300"
   Option "RightEdge" "5700"
   Option "AccelFactor" "0.001"
EndSection
which is in a way optimized for my hp pavilion zt3000 notebook.

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I too am having this problem. What I did was urpmi the synaptics driver. 
Then, it still didn't work. So it was suggested to me to add evdev to 
/etc/modules.preload. Now, it only works after a reboot, until I plug a 
mouse in. Weird.


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Re: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-07 Thread Richard Urwin
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 5:27 pm, hugenots wrote:
> uff...
> thats what I had in mind, but as you said "it was the forerunner to
> exchange.."
>
> and I would be very happy to find linux based system...
> main point is not to forget about MS users.
>
> actualy, main features is posibility to share callendar, contacts,
> make meeting requests...
> someting what outlook does over ms mail.
>
> so I need the very server, mali client for linux Working like outlook
> and some kind of integrity with M$ outlook.

Exchange will do IMAP if it is configured to do so.
But it seems that is not what you want.

>
> if solve this quest, it will be posible for me to persuade tom start
> migrating to linux...
>
> 
> force, my friend, is violence!
>  hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> f> I don't think he means like exchange or normal mail..
> f> years back  I used to use a microsoft mail program which I setup
> to f> allow people on the internal network to leave messages for each
> other.. f> sorta like internal messanging system.. I think it was the
> forerunner to f> exchange..
>
> f> I could be wrong, but that sounds like what he is after a client
> for. f> He might be out of luck, microsoft mail used to work via
> samba I think.. f> (clients looked at a shared directory on the
> server)
>
> f> thats from memory so could be wrong.

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Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake bug and question re running 10.1 cooker

2004-04-07 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 21:03, Chuck Mattsen wrote:
> Well, as it turns out my botched KDE (and other updates) was due to
> that rpmdrake bug (Bugzilla 9411) ... packages were downloading but
> not installing, and remaining in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms.
>
I wonder if thats my problem?

> Given that I know cooker is the "bleeding edge" and not for a
> production machine (this one isn't), would it now make sense for me
> to simply remain with cooker, at least for awhile?  If I were to do
> so, would I be able to continue updating using the cooker mirrors as
> I've been doing these past weeks with the 10CE updates, or would it
> require a different procedure(s) as 10.1 continues to diverge from
> 10.0, and onward?  (I've seen mention of mirroring the directory
> structure, etc., locally, I think, and don't quite understand that
> concept, nor am I sure I would be able to do so.)
>
> For those more-than-newbies who have experience with running previous
> cooker versions, //how// volatile is it, i.e., are problems which
> occur generally annoyances from which one may recover after another
> update cycle or two, or are they more-critical show-stoppers which
> would render one's system useless and force a reinstall?
>
For me "Bleeding Edge" says it all.  The words mean to me if you use 
this expect to bleed a lot!  Now if you enjoy that have fun.  For me 
I'm not capable!
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Re: [newbie] 10CE Updates -- Broken?

2004-04-07 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 08:50 pm, Alaa The Great wrote:
l
> Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You just have to manually check the mirrors until you find
> > one that has been updated to the new structure.  Try here
> >
> > ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/mandrake/devel
>
> hey thanks for the link, I can't believe how impatient we are
> (me included).

 Problem is once a known to be good mirror is posted to a 
public list, it becomes that much more worthless. IE, /.'d  ... 
and of diminished use to everyone.  In the long run the advice to 
"just have to manually check the mirrors until you find one that 
has been updated ..." is the best advice.   Proxad has become 
slow, even unreachable sometimes since it was revealed on lists 
that it was 'currently' first to update to current cooker.

Please remember Mandrake doesn't have any mirrors. Those that 
do mirror Mandrake, do so as a donation of disk space, bandwidth, 
and administration.   "pile'n on" as is often the result of 
public annoucements to ML's, an will only result in these 
donators reducing allowed users, bandwidth, or worse ... drop the 
whole deal altogether. 

   These are the mirrors that also host past releases of Mandrake 
(and 10.0 is a past release). They also host other distros. If 
Mandrake users start crowdin their mirror, all they have to do is 
shut it all off.  So it's a problem for 9.x-10.0 users also. Many 
already allow only so many anonymous logins, so their only choice 
is too quit hosting Mandrake if the load becomes more than their 
willin to give.

   BTW, Proxad is not the best mirror right now.  It was for a few 
days . but the word got out too fast ;(   There was a good 
USA mirror till it got advertised on Mandrake ML's.

>
> but it would have been better if Mandrake made some form of
> formal announcement in a flash newsletter and on the club
> website.

Your sources are limited. The info has been out there for over 
a week. The schedule was posted many months ago, an revised 
since. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake10
There's also a link and tenative schedule for 10.1 there

If you really care to be informed, subscribe and _lurk_ on the 
development list ... cooker.  The links are probly already 
bookmarked for you, click on the 'MandrakeSoft' folder in your 
bookmarks.

> 10 Community was overall a great experience and I think its a
> good idea, but there was a big problem in communicating what
> exactly it is about and how it will be implemented.

 10.0 CE was great for many. 10.0 Official should be as good 
for problem users/hardware. Better yet, 10.1
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Re: [newbie] 10CE Updates -- Broken?

2004-04-07 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 01:56 am, John Wilson wrote:
> Oh well.  They should have left the development stable stuff intact for 10
> until all the updates were incorporated into final or transferred to where
> they will reside.

They did.  What is happeneing now is that the old mirror structure is being 
symlinked to the new mirror structure, but the new mirror structure is not 
being picked up by the mirrors, so the symlinks point to nothing right now.

The primary mirror is fine the problem here is the operators of all the public 
mirror sites, which Mandrake unfortunately does not control.
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Re: [newbie] Synaptic pad tapping in v10

2004-04-07 Thread Stephanus Fengler
Oliver Marshall wrote:

Hi.

I have just installed Mandrake 10 on my laptop, and it looks amazing.
Thing is, two things don't work, the Synaptics touch pad tapping and the
pcmcia wi-fi card which is a Belkin model based on the Atmel drivers.
Being a linux newbie im hoping to get some help getting them up and
working. The PCMCIA card isn't too urgent, as I have seen an Orinoco
model on ebay which I am told will work outta the box. The synaptics pad
is a pain though.
I have found some instructions on the net, but they basically say
"recompile the kernal with this setting" which goes WAAAYYY over my
head.
Does anyone have some detailed, perfect for newbies, blow by blow
instructions for how to get the synaptics tapping working ?
Olly

Hi Oliver,
you don't need to recompile the kernel. Everything works with it. What 
you need to do is, you have to compile synaptics driver, which worked 
for me out of the box without any difficulties. Basically just follow 
the instructions in the README file which comes with the synaptic.tar.gz
After that you have to modify your XF86Config-4 to your needs. My 
touchpad section e.g. looks like:

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier "Touchpad"
   Driver "synaptics"
   Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
   Option "MaxSpeed" "0.18"
   Option "MinSpeed" "0.02"
   Option "BottomEdge" "4700"
   Option "UpDownScrolling" "on"
   Option "SHMConfig" "on"
   Option "LeftEdge" "1300"
   Option "FingerLow" "20"
   Option "MaxTapTime" "180"
   Option "MaxTapMove" "220"
   Option "FingerHigh" "30"
   Option "VertScrollDelta" "100"
   Option "TopEdge" "1300"
   Option "RightEdge" "5700"
   Option "AccelFactor" "0.001"
EndSection
which is in a way optimized for my hp pavilion zt3000 notebook.

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[newbie] Easy urpmi

2004-04-07 Thread Dan Gordon
Just had a look at the easy urpmi site and the banner at the top of the 
page states !
"ALL 10.0 MIRRORS ARE BROKEN. Mandrake team is updating them.
I am still looking for contributors". 
So for anyone having problems this would be why.  Hopefully it wont be 
too long, but it looks like they are at least keeping an eye on this 
which is a good thing.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10 CE and smp kernel

2004-04-07 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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>
> You hit it right on the head Pabio,  I was wondering about that and now
> i know why winxp shows two cpu load monitors in taskmannager.
>
> Thanks will boot into it now and see what happens.
>
> Regards,
> Dan Gordon
Hi Dan,
I have an IBM server with dual processor support, but currently only runs 1 
proc. Mdk92 install the smp-kernel too, and it looks ok when I boot into it. 
But, when I ssh into the box, it hangs!
Very weird, so now I just use the ordinary kernel.
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[newbie] Mldonkey

2004-04-07 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Well, I've always used Mldonkey  with no problems but just recently I 
did the urpmi --auto-select thing and got a newer version of Mldonkey. 
Flashy, nice gui...and not worth a damn. It starts with this fancy screen 
with the penguin in the middle with all the networks around it. Greyed out. 
Not working. Not connecting. I tried going into settings/options but there's 
nothing that I can see that will help.

The older version had a gui, and it was fairly straightforward and worked 
great here.

Any ideas on how to get the new one working (or how to get back to the older 
version since urpmi always finds the new version now?)

Thanks much.

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Re[2]: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-07 Thread hugenots
uff...
thats what I had in mind, but as you said "it was the forerunner to exchange.."

and I would be very happy to find linux based system...
main point is not to forget about MS users.

actualy, main features is posibility to share callendar, contacts,
make meeting requests...
someting what outlook does over ms mail.

so I need the very server, mali client for linux Working like outlook
and some kind of integrity with M$ outlook.


if solve this quest, it will be posible for me to persuade tom start
migrating to linux...


force, my friend, is violence!
 hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


f> I don't think he means like exchange or normal mail..
f> years back  I used to use a microsoft mail program which I setup to
f> allow people on the internal network to leave messages for each other..
f> sorta like internal messanging system.. I think it was the forerunner to
f> exchange..

f> I could be wrong, but that sounds like what he is after a client for.
f> He might be out of luck, microsoft mail used to work via samba I think..
f> (clients looked at a shared directory on the server)

f> thats from memory so could be wrong.






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Re: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-07 Thread frankieh
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 18:24, hugenots wrote:

Haiz newbie,

 I know this is unplesant question, bt is there any way for linux
 users work with microsoft mail...
 and is there something like M$ mail under linux?


force, my friend, is violence!
hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


1.) UNIX based mail and FIDO based mail came before M$ "types" of mail.
M$ types of mail are proprietary and generally not well written bits of
software.
2.) RESEARCH. Google is your friend. In linux you have Evolution, Balsa,
Sylpheed, Kmail and several other mail packages NOT including the ever
popular Mozilla Mail and Netscape Mail. Have you bothered to look at
your system? You SHOULD have at leat four different packages that come
default with your installation without making any choices. RTFM.
3.) Evolution is better than Outlook (otherwise known as LOOKOUT) and
Outlook Express (otherwise know and LOOKOUT NOW); dig into your system
and RTFM.
4.) You have the ability with a normal installation to have IMAP and
POP3 by default; if you want M$ style IMAP ability, install the packages
and they work right off the bat. RTFM.
Linux/*NIX are the original "mail handlers" from more than 30 years
past. You also have PINE, MUTT and MAIL available from the command
line...
How long have you been using linux now?

stephen kuhn - owner


I don't think he means like exchange or normal mail..
years back  I used to use a microsoft mail program which I setup to
allow people on the internal network to leave messages for each other..
sorta like internal messanging system.. I think it was the forerunner to 
exchange..

I could be wrong, but that sounds like what he is after a client for.
He might be out of luck, microsoft mail used to work via samba I think..
(clients looked at a shared directory on the server)
thats from memory so could be wrong.

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Re[2]: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-07 Thread hugenots
there seems some problem with this list!

I've made several posts because, I get bounce mail, and post go to
list realy slow...


force, my friend, is violence!
 hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SK> On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 18:24, hugenots wrote:
>> Haiz newbie,
>> 
>>   I know this is unplesant question, bt is there any way for linux
>>   users work with microsoft mail...
>> 
>>   and is there something like M$ mail under linux?
>> 
>> 
>> force, my friend, is violence!
>>  hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SK> 1.) UNIX based mail and FIDO based mail came before M$ "types" of mail.
SK> M$ types of mail are proprietary and generally not well written bits of
SK> software.

SK> 2.) RESEARCH. Google is your friend. In linux you have Evolution, Balsa,
SK> Sylpheed, Kmail and several other mail packages NOT including the ever
SK> popular Mozilla Mail and Netscape Mail. Have you bothered to look at
SK> your system? You SHOULD have at leat four different packages that come
SK> default with your installation without making any choices. RTFM.

SK> 3.) Evolution is better than Outlook (otherwise known as LOOKOUT) and
SK> Outlook Express (otherwise know and LOOKOUT NOW); dig into your system
SK> and RTFM.

SK> 4.) You have the ability with a normal installation to have IMAP and
SK> POP3 by default; if you want M$ style IMAP ability, install the packages
SK> and they work right off the bat. RTFM.

SK> Linux/*NIX are the original "mail handlers" from more than 30 years
SK> past. You also have PINE, MUTT and MAIL available from the command
SK> line...

SK> How long have you been using linux now?

SK> stephen kuhn - owner
SK> ==
SK> illawarra computer services
SK> a kuhn media australia company
SK> http://kma.0catch.com
SK> --
SK>   * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer *
SK>   We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents
SK> --
SK> Everyone knows that dragons don't exist. But while this simplistic
SK> formulation may satisfy the layman, it does not suffice for the
SK> scientific mind. The School of Higher Neantical Nillity is in fact
SK> wholly unconcerned with what does exist. Indeed, the banality of
SK> existence has been so amply demonstrated, there is no need for us to
SK> discuss it any further here. The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the
SK> problem analytically, discovered three distinct kinds of dragon: the
SK> mythical, the chimerical, and the purely hypothetical. They were all,
SK> one might say, nonexistent, but each nonexisted in an entirely different
SK> way ... -- Stanislaw Lem, "Cyberiad"



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Re: [newbie] Decent Audio Track Ripper?

2004-04-07 Thread Aron Smith
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 11:46 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 15:45, Aron Smith wrote:
> > Try grip
>
> Ninety-thousand responses later, mate...(g)
Actualy I prefer Ripper-X..but thats another story ;-)
>
> stephen kuhn - owner
> ==
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Re: [newbie] UT2003 on 10.0

2004-04-07 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 07:48 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:

->I would have but it was never there. Funny though I installed the
->2.6.4-1.tmb.5mdk kernel and now I can install the 5336.pkg.1 from Nvidia.
 All ->works ok, I have UT2003 again. Continue to tweak.  Thanks for
 everyones ->replies.

What kernel were you using? Mayperhaps it was compiled with something on/off 
that was needed?

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Re: [newbie] Decent Audio Track Ripper?

2004-04-07 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 12:45 am, Aron Smith wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 April 2004 05:46 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a decent track ripper/encoder for ripping
> > tracks off CDs? I've used Kaudiocreator, but I was listening
> > today, and I just happened to notice that the sound quality
> > is about equal to that of crap. Right, so anyway, I may sound
> > a bit nitpicky, but it sounds like someone dropped my
> > computer from a third story window a few times. Oh also, I'm
> > sure it's the track ripping, because anything I get off
> > apollon plays fine.
> >
> > --Marc
>
> Try grip

 Or just type 'ripacd' in a term.

(alias ripacd='cdparanoia -vB 1- /home/tom/wav/')

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[newbie] ms mail in linux

2004-04-07 Thread hugenots
Haiz newbie,

  I know this is unplesant question, bt is there any way for linux
  users work with microsoft mail...

  and is there something like M$ mail under linux?


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Re: [newbie] Decent Audio Track Ripper?

2004-04-07 Thread Aron Smith
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 05:46 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
> Does anyone know of a decent track ripper/encoder for ripping tracks off
> CDs? I've used Kaudiocreator, but I was listening today, and I just
> happened to notice that the sound quality is about equal to that of
> crap. Right, so anyway, I may sound a bit nitpicky, but it sounds like
> someone dropped my computer from a third story window a few times. Oh
> also, I'm sure it's the track ripping, because anything I get off
> apollon plays fine.
>
> --Marc
Try grip


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[newbie] Kernel update woes

2004-04-07 Thread Len Lawrence
On advice from Mandrake Expert I have just installed the 2.4.22-28 kernel to
replace the 2.4.22-10 supplied with Mandrake 9.2 ProSuite.
When the RPM installed via urpmi an error occurred at the /sbin/lilo stage:
  error regenerating lilo
The lilo.conf looked OK so I ran /sbin/lilo again and it returned
  Fatal: volid read error.

Anybody know what that means?  It could be a disk corruption I suppose, 
something in the MBR sector, so I should be worried right?  I cannot risk a
reboot with things the way they are because several links in /boot
have been reassigned in the direction of the new kernel, which would probably
lead to a kernel panic.  The next stage would be to try and restore the old
links.

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Re: [newbie] Today's cooker updates and KDE 3.2.1 (bye bye)

2004-04-07 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 01:02:02 -0500
Chuck Mattsen disseminated the following:

> but KDE itself seems to have gone missing.

This is a bad thing? 

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Re[2]: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-07 Thread hugenots
you left my mouth wide shut :)



force, my friend, is violence!
 hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SK> On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 18:24, hugenots wrote:
>> Haiz newbie,
>> 
>>   I know this is unplesant question, bt is there any way for linux
>>   users work with microsoft mail...
>> 
>>   and is there something like M$ mail under linux?
>> 
>> 
>> force, my friend, is violence!
>>  hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SK> 1.) UNIX based mail and FIDO based mail came before M$ "types" of mail.
SK> M$ types of mail are proprietary and generally not well written bits of
SK> software.

SK> 2.) RESEARCH. Google is your friend. In linux you have Evolution, Balsa,
SK> Sylpheed, Kmail and several other mail packages NOT including the ever
SK> popular Mozilla Mail and Netscape Mail. Have you bothered to look at
SK> your system? You SHOULD have at leat four different packages that come
SK> default with your installation without making any choices. RTFM.

SK> 3.) Evolution is better than Outlook (otherwise known as LOOKOUT) and
SK> Outlook Express (otherwise know and LOOKOUT NOW); dig into your system
SK> and RTFM.

SK> 4.) You have the ability with a normal installation to have IMAP and
SK> POP3 by default; if you want M$ style IMAP ability, install the packages
SK> and they work right off the bat. RTFM.

SK> Linux/*NIX are the original "mail handlers" from more than 30 years
SK> past. You also have PINE, MUTT and MAIL available from the command
SK> line...

SK> How long have you been using linux now?

SK> stephen kuhn - owner
SK> ==
SK> illawarra computer services
SK> a kuhn media australia company
SK> http://kma.0catch.com
SK> --
SK>   * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer *
SK>   We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents
SK> --
SK> Everyone knows that dragons don't exist. But while this simplistic
SK> formulation may satisfy the layman, it does not suffice for the
SK> scientific mind. The School of Higher Neantical Nillity is in fact
SK> wholly unconcerned with what does exist. Indeed, the banality of
SK> existence has been so amply demonstrated, there is no need for us to
SK> discuss it any further here. The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the
SK> problem analytically, discovered three distinct kinds of dragon: the
SK> mythical, the chimerical, and the purely hypothetical. They were all,
SK> one might say, nonexistent, but each nonexisted in an entirely different
SK> way ... -- Stanislaw Lem, "Cyberiad"



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Re: [newbie] Kernel compiling for Driver

2004-04-07 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Tuesday 06 April 2004 21:28, martin brandt wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> Im wanting to install my drivers for my ATI Radeon 9200SE ive bought
> recently on my mdk 9.2, and i have downloaded the appropriate rpm,
> but i need to tailor my Kernel to allow the driver to work. Now
> messing around with Kernel sounds complicated and i was wondering if
> it is actually doable by someone like me with little Linux knowledge.
> Would i be able to do it following instructions? Would it take too
> long?
>
> The error is documented here:
> http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4475.html
>
I've got a Radeon 9200 running with 9.2.  I got to the same point as you 
before I realised that Mandrake already has the flgx driver.  I think 
it was XFDrake that gave me the choice of driver.

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Re: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-07 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 18:24, hugenots wrote:
> Haiz newbie,
> 
>   I know this is unplesant question, bt is there any way for linux
>   users work with microsoft mail...
> 
>   and is there something like M$ mail under linux?
> 
> 
> force, my friend, is violence!
>  hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

1.) UNIX based mail and FIDO based mail came before M$ "types" of mail.
M$ types of mail are proprietary and generally not well written bits of
software.

2.) RESEARCH. Google is your friend. In linux you have Evolution, Balsa,
Sylpheed, Kmail and several other mail packages NOT including the ever
popular Mozilla Mail and Netscape Mail. Have you bothered to look at
your system? You SHOULD have at leat four different packages that come
default with your installation without making any choices. RTFM.

3.) Evolution is better than Outlook (otherwise known as LOOKOUT) and
Outlook Express (otherwise know and LOOKOUT NOW); dig into your system
and RTFM.

4.) You have the ability with a normal installation to have IMAP and
POP3 by default; if you want M$ style IMAP ability, install the packages
and they work right off the bat. RTFM.

Linux/*NIX are the original "mail handlers" from more than 30 years
past. You also have PINE, MUTT and MAIL available from the command
line...

How long have you been using linux now?

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Re: [newbie] hosting my own web site

2004-04-07 Thread et
On Monday 05 April 2004 06:41 pm, Jerry wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 08:04:44 -0400
>
> et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I would also make sure I was NOT running mod_proxy... that was the
> > 'mailing exploit' mentioned in an earlier message.
>
> Is just disabling mod_proxy in webmin enough to cover it or would one need
> to uninstall something? TIA
it is enough to have a recent updated MDK version, and properly configured. 
disable whatever you don't know how to use,,, especially in a web server open 
to the world,IMHO 
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10 CE and smp kernel

2004-04-07 Thread Pablo Vitoria
There is no special smp kernel source. I use the enterprise (smp and high
memory support) kernel in my dual machines, and I compiled with no problem
the Nvidia video driver using the standard (and only)
kernel-source-2.4.22-28mdk.rpm kernel source (this is in 9.2, in 10 the
kernel version will be different...)


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- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Gordon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10 CE and smp kernel


| On April 6, 2004 07:02 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:
|
| >
| > You hit it right on the head Pabio,  I was wondering about that and
| > now i know why winxp shows two cpu load monitors in taskmannager.
| >
| > Thanks will boot into it now and see what happens.
| >
| It boots fine but i can see no real benefit,  also i can not find any
| kernel source for smp and can not compile the video driver for my
| card :-(
|
| Regards,
| Dan Gordon
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Re: [newbie] rar compression software

2004-04-07 Thread Marco Terzuoli
On www.rpmfind.net you can find more up-to-date packages of rar (version
3.3). The problem is that they are not specifically designed for Mandrake,
so I don't know if they will work correctly. Anyway as far as I know this
site is the best to get any sort of rpm.

Marco

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "martin brandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] rar compression software


> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 09:34, martin brandt wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I was wondering if anyone could recommend some software to compress to
.rar. Id
> > use rar for linux but thats retail if i want to use the compression
commands.
> > Anyone know any other programs that allow me to compress into .rar?
> >
> > Thanks a lot, Martin Brandt
>
> The best place to get rar is from Vincent Danen's excellent site:
>
> http://www.rpmhelp.net/
>
> Where you can get the rar rpm for all relatively recent versions of
> Mandrake, plus qmail rpms, plus a few other rpms that are hard to find
> elsewhere.
>
> Rar is one of the best compressor/archiver programs that there is.
>
> LX
>
>
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10 CE and smp kernel

2004-04-07 Thread Dan Gordon
On April 6, 2004 07:02 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:

>
> You hit it right on the head Pabio,  I was wondering about that and
> now i know why winxp shows two cpu load monitors in taskmannager.
>
> Thanks will boot into it now and see what happens.
>
It boots fine but i can see no real benefit,  also i can not find any 
kernel source for smp and can not compile the video driver for my 
card :-(

Regards,
Dan Gordon
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Re: [newbie] Decent Audio Track Ripper?

2004-04-07 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 15:45, Aron Smith wrote:

> Try grip

Ninety-thousand responses later, mate...(g)

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[newbie] Synaptic pad tapping in v10

2004-04-07 Thread Oliver Marshall
Hi.

I have just installed Mandrake 10 on my laptop, and it looks amazing.
Thing is, two things don't work, the Synaptics touch pad tapping and the
pcmcia wi-fi card which is a Belkin model based on the Atmel drivers.

Being a linux newbie im hoping to get some help getting them up and
working. The PCMCIA card isn't too urgent, as I have seen an Orinoco
model on ebay which I am told will work outta the box. The synaptics pad
is a pain though.

I have found some instructions on the net, but they basically say
"recompile the kernal with this setting" which goes WAAAYYY over my
head.

Does anyone have some detailed, perfect for newbies, blow by blow
instructions for how to get the synaptics tapping working ?

Olly


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Re: [newbie] USB printers and 10.0 do not play together.

2004-04-07 Thread Troy T. Hall
Epson Stylus C82 works great in 10
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Subject: Re: [newbie] USB printers and 10.0 do not play together.


> On Tuesday 30 March 2004 08:01 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > Ok, I was wrong, I can not get 10.0 to recognize my Epson Printer. 9.2
used
> > it fine, but nothing on 10.0. Any one have a USB printer working?
> Seems the latest updates have fixed the problem, the Epson MFC now does it
all
> again. I can scan, print, and copy. Do not have fax on it though. So
> Epson Stylus CX5200 is a winner in 10.0.
> -- 
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Re: [newbie] DVD writter supported by mandrake 9.2

2004-04-07 Thread Steve Mazil
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 12:10:11 +0100
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> 
> On Tuesday 06 April 2004 06:42, Steve Mazil wrote:
> > On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:35:17 -0400
> >
> > Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Monday 05 April 2004 08:05 am, Jean-Pierre Real wrote:
> > > > I tried to have a look around and found some threads regarding
> > > > DVD writer that said that all dvd writer should work in theory,
> > > > but I would prefer to buy something that has been successfully
> > > > used by a mandrake user.
> > >
> > > All ATAPI should work in theory, that doesn't necessarily apply
> > > to external USB devices.  I have used a Plextor, and HP DVD
> > > Burner and various other CD devices successfully with 9.0, 9.1
> > > and now 10.0.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bryan Phinney
> > > Software Test Engineer
> >
> > I'm currently using a LiteOn LDW 451s with Mandrake 10.  Cdr, cdrw
> > and dvd+rw successful burns so far.
> >
> > Steve Mazil
> 
> Could you add that to the TWiki, please, Steve?  We are short of info 
> on DVD writers.  http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/DVDDriVes
> 
> Anne

Anne I've added the above to the TWiki DVDDriVes under the Atapi heading with a link 
to the product information on the LiteOn web site for that drive.

It's the first time I've done this on a TWiki web site so I hope it's done right.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10 CE and smp kernel

2004-04-07 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 07:27, et wrote:

> just out of curiosity, which CPU do you have???

Just out of curiosity, Ed, what made you send me those disks?

NOT that I'm complaining, it was a great great gift, mate. Nice to come
home to after a week of working for someone else...

Just wondering.

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