[newbie] Re: Re: Mozilla fonts
Paul Smith wrote: I run Mdk 9.1 that comes with Moz 1.3 and recently I added Netscape 7.1 and Mozilla 1.6 in additional. Both of them I installed using their own installers and I used their default values. At the end it seems they both run but look ugly and with hard-to-read fonts and, in general, they look worse than the 'original' Mozilla. I did not face any setup complaint during the installation and don't know how to make them look better. I tested them all within KDE and Gnome and it is the same (anyway I prefer KDE). Why do not you consider installing the xft version of mozilla? http://www.scottbolander.com/mozilla-xft.html Will check that site. Btw, does it mean that mozilla.org versions of Mozilla suffer from some problems related to that matter - just wonder? In addition, you could import MS Windows truetype fonts (with drakfont), in case you have a dual machine (MS Windows + Linux). Hey, wait a minute. The 'original' Mozilla 1.3 that comes with Mdk 9.1 looks very nice - regardless I haven't imported MS Windows truetype fonts. What I wanted to do is to upgrade Mozilla and/or to try using Netscape. In fact, it looks to me that what came with Mdk 9.1 appear just fine on the screen, but what is *added* i.e. installed later, looks ugly. As I mentioned, I installed Netscape 7.1 as well as Mozilla 1.6 in their respective default directories (into different paths from the 'original' Moz 1.3 so they couldn't 'fight' in between etc). Nothing complained during the installation, finally both of them run here (of course, not in parallel because I use the same profile) - but just look poor. So I wonder what I should get with importing MS Windows truetype fonts. Misko Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
JoeHill wrote: I did not face any setup complaint during the installation and don't know how to make them look better. I tested them all within KDE and Gnome and it is the same (anyway I prefer KDE). ...must...resist...urge...to...slag...KDE... Don't understand what do you suggest me to do. As I said, additionally installed Mozilla and Netscape clients look poor either under Gnome and KDE versions of Mandrake 9.1 distribution. Actually, you can install the TrueType fonts (which MS did *not* invent, and has no right to claim ownership of) without a dual boot. I know that and in fact I did it once a couple of months ago. I did it as root but somehow it screwed up my user account's behavior that I couldn't resolve withouth complete re-installation from scratch. I don't understand what MS fonts should solve here First install cabextract: urpmi cabextract then download and install/run this RPM: http://www.orderinchaos.org/msttcorefonts-bootstrap-0.1-4brs.noarch.rpm ...then just sit back and watch the magic! Would you be so kind to give me some details on what these two are supposed to do. I still do not understand what the problem is, because the 'original' (but a bit outdated) Mozilla 1.3 looks fine on my screen. It looks to me that whatever is installed onto the original setup of Mdk 9.1 looks poor although being capable to run elsewhere. Misko Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Tuesday 20 April 2004 12:08 am, JoeHill wrote: ->On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:20:55 -0400 ->Ronald J. Hall disseminated the following: -> ->> Hmm, Chris Fox? -> ->I'd say that invokes Godwin's Law. -> Does kinda put a damper on things, doesn't it? -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] XFree 4.4 RPMS for MDK 10?
Unless I misread the last update I did, its still part of cooker. If it is, you can get the rpm's through one of the mirrors. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of evolt Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] XFree 4.4 RPMS for MDK 10? Ok, I heard and read a little about why 4.4 would not be included in mandrake 10, but... I need it. The sis driver for my crappy onboard sis630 chip doesn't have DRI enabled in 4.3. I have tried unsucessfully to install it from XFree's website. Does anyone know of where I could find rpms for the final version of 4.4? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:20:55 -0400 Ronald J. Hall disseminated the following: > Hmm, Chris Fox? I'd say that invokes Godwin's Law. -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ "I don't give a hoot about what people have to say, I'm laughing as I'm analyzed, Lunatics Anonymous, that's where I belong, sure 'cuz I am one, til my strength is gone yeah this beat goes on..." -- The Kings Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Palm sync out of the box – anyone?
On Sunday 18 April 2004 04:59 pm, David Williams wrote: > > I had a Visor Deluxe and now have a Palm Vx. I couldn't get KPilot to work, > but I haven't had any real problem with Jpilot. > DBW Kpilot worked just fine here with my Palm Vx, and it's working here now with my Kyocera 7135. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Monday 19 April 2004 11:20 pm, JoeHill wrote: ->All I know is, if Tom Brinkman can seemingly tolerate *me*, but hates MS, there ->is something *seriously* wrong with MS :-D Joe, you got wings and a halo compared to Microsloth :-) -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Monday 19 April 2004 10:31 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote: ->On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:35:12 -0400 ->"Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -> ->> ->> Hmm...you wouldn't by any chance have been on this list before would ->> ya? With a different name? -> ->No, sir, I've never used an alias anywhere, on any mailing list or forum ->I participate in. I take my hits standing up . I have been on this ->list for several years. -> Well maybe he just rubbed off on you... Just kidding. I said something like "Microslop" or somesuch on the list one day and this other guy went off on it for like 6 months... Hmm, Chris Fox? Was that his name...? Oh well. See ya... -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 18:15:50 -0700 John Wilson disseminated the following: > And Micro$oft would never ever issue a bug fix that makes matters worse, > breaks installations and leaves end users scratching their head as to why a > perfectly serviceable computer, by Windows standards, suddenly doesn't wanna > work. :-) ...ya, I hear XP SP2 is supposed to be a real hoot. IIRC, there were warnings issued by those morons at Microshit (damn, couldn't hold back...) that 'certain software may not function as expected' with the big patch, as they were taking steps to contain the infinite and unknown number of security flaws in XP. All I know is, if Tom Brinkman can seemingly tolerate *me*, but hates MS, there is something *seriously* wrong with MS :-D -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ "True communication is possible only between equals, because inferiors are more consistently rewarded for telling their superiors pleasant lies than for telling the truth." -- The SNAFU Principle Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 18:11:50 -0700 John Wilson disseminated the following: > Source files are a different ballgame, of course, but I'm not about to suggest > that you try that. :-) What's so tough about ./configure, make, make install? With the vast majority of source packages I've dealt with, the configure script will tell you exactly which devel libraries you are missing, so it's usually a simple matter of 'urpmi libwhatever-devel' and you're off and running. I especially like the whole CVS thang, keeping up with, in some cases, daily updates, bugfixes, new features, etc. Not to mention, with source installs, you can customize the app to suit your needs, leaving out features you don't use, or vice versa. I love the sight of source code successfully compiling in the morning...looks like...victory... ;-) -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ "See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction." -- George Bush, Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you been able to do version upgrades (e.g., 9.2 to 10) and everything continue to work properly? To be honest, I had a great deal of trouble several years ago and haven't tried recently - I just format and install the new version clean. I have seen several posts here recently that claim that is still an issue. That is what I have found time consuming. Not too bad since typically I only install development tools. Well, maybe I've been doing Win installs/upgrades wrong for the past 7 or 8 years but I've found that the upgrade path doesn't work for your average Redmond product either. Carl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Update Mirrors
JRH wrote: On Monday 19 Apr 2004 21:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Hmm... Maybe you already are "uptodate" ? I shouldnt be, as I have only just re-installed after Windows quite successfully demolished my Linux install (dont ask!). Whatever, it's gotten me beat well and truly. It's been a long day, I'm tired, and I have overdosed on Nicotine and Caffeine tonight, trying to sort this out, and I must admit defeat. I'm off to bed, ready to refresh myself for round 2 tomorrow :-) Thanks for the help, JRH Go into mcc/software management and untic all the original sources. Then highlight the new ones, one at a time and select "update". Then run MandrakeUpdate, (which is called "Software Updates" in mmc) If you had updated already, you'd know, because its a few hundred mb to upgrade community to official. -- rgds Frank Hauptle (aka Franki) For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl & PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com Free web developer resources. Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Monday 19 April 2004 06:15 pm, John Wilson wrote: > On April 19, 2004 10:53 am, robin wrote: > > > > Then of course, there is the fun of uninstalling Windows software. Hmm, > > editing the registry to get rid of crap left by botched uninstalls - now > > _that's_ what I call user-friendly! ;-) > > Robin, you are evil and wicked, do you know that? :-) > > Windows uninstalls everything properly, never ever leaves unresolved > references in the registry, would never whack a shared file needed by other > programs and certainly wouldn't fsck the existing settings. :-) > > And Micro$oft would never ever issue a bug fix that makes matters worse, > breaks installations and leaves end users scratching their head as to why a > perfectly serviceable computer, by Windows standards, suddenly doesn't > wanna work. :-) > > C'mon! Read all the "independant" reseach on Microsoft's web sites about > how this only ever happens in Linux!!! > > ttfn > > John > > PS: I'm so proud of myself DIdn't say winblows, winsucks or other > pegroative even once. :-) Win$uxs Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone have experience with this tool?
On Monday 19 April 2004 01:52 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 06:33, robin wrote: > > Aron Smith wrote: > > > http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/512350/RIP.html > > > > Aron, be careful about your subject lines - that one could get caught by > > a lot of people's spam filters ;-) > > > > Sir Robin > > Ain't that something he should be asking his wife? __She__ kicked me out 21 years ago > > stephen kuhn - owner > == > illawarra computer services > a kuhn media australia company > http://kma.0catch.com > -- > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents > -- > "This is a job for BOB VIOLENCE and SCUM, the INCREDIBLY STUPID MUTANT > DOG." -- Bob Violence Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DANGER!
On Monday 19 April 2004 03:23 pm, et wrote: > On Monday 19 April 2004 08:11 am, Tina wrote: > > You know I even read trough it sometimes you best just remember you have > > to eat my cooking AND I have access to your pc > > rotflmao > > > Hey TIna,,, come join us over in the OT group... (talk about a time sink) of course Stephen refered to us as a snake pit.(or was that joe pill ? > > > On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 20:55, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > Warning all list members: the girlfriend has subscribed! > > > > > > stephen kuhn - owner > > > == > > > illawarra computer services > > > a kuhn media australia company > > > http://kma.0catch.com > > > -- > > > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > > > We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents > > > -- > > > Hermes: "The poor demented honky." > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone have experience with this tool?
On Monday 19 April 2004 01:33 pm, robin wrote: > Aron Smith wrote: > > http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/512350/RIP.html > > Aron, be careful about your subject lines - that one could get caught by > a lot of people's spam filters ;-) Hell you mean somebody __Don't __ have me dev/null ed ? > > Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:20:02 -0400 JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you've spent an equal amount of time 'reinstalling Linux releases > and upgrading packages' compared to Windows, you are doing something > seriously wrong Have you been able to do version upgrades (e.g., 9.2 to 10) and everything continue to work properly? To be honest, I had a great deal of trouble several years ago and haven't tried recently - I just format and install the new version clean. I have seen several posts here recently that claim that is still an issue. That is what I have found time consuming. Not too bad since typically I only install development tools. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:35:12 -0400 "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hmm...you wouldn't by any chance have been on this list before would > ya? With a different name? No, sir, I've never used an alias anywhere, on any mailing list or forum I participate in. I take my hits standing up . I have been on this list for several years. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] XFree 4.4 RPMS for MDK 10?
Ok, I heard and read a little about why 4.4 would not be included in mandrake 10, but... I need it. The sis driver for my crappy onboard sis630 chip doesn't have DRI enabled in 4.3. I have tried unsucessfully to install it from XFree's website. Does anyone know of where I could find rpms for the final version of 4.4? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Questions of XFce4
Okay so I have a few questions about XFce4, my new WM. 1. Is there a way to skin/theme it? 2. I heard there were a bunch of features, like KDE. How do I use dockapps and stuff? 3. When I minimize windows, where can I find them, besides alt+tabbing. Is there a parallel dimension where all the minimized windows go like in enlightenment? 4. How can I make it so the windows can't go over the panel? I tried making a margin, but it didn't work. Thanks, hoping to get some answers from you XFce4 fanatics! --Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Help! I Killed Samba
Hi all Up until recently my system has been running fine. Then I had a power cut :( Now. I have two computers. 1 mandrake 9.1 and 1 winxp. linux connected to dialup modem. winxp thru network to linux. this is the situation after power cut. XP cannot ping itself (127.0.0.1) and cannot ping linux. linux cannot ping itself and cannot ping xp. linux = 192.168.0.2 xp = 192.168.0.1 static ip linux cannot see xp in linneighbourhood. linux cannot see itself in linneighbourhood. linux cannot access any xp hard drives. xp CAN see linux in windows explorer. but EXTREMELY slow exploring xp can see itself in windows explorer. xp CAN access linux hard drives. and xp has no problems connecting to internet thru linux. any ideas? any files i need to find and copy/paste to here? TIA Shaz Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On April 19, 2004 10:53 am, robin wrote: > Then of course, there is the fun of uninstalling Windows software. Hmm, > editing the registry to get rid of crap left by botched uninstalls - now > _that's_ what I call user-friendly! ;-) > Robin, you are evil and wicked, do you know that? :-) Windows uninstalls everything properly, never ever leaves unresolved references in the registry, would never whack a shared file needed by other programs and certainly wouldn't fsck the existing settings. :-) And Micro$oft would never ever issue a bug fix that makes matters worse, breaks installations and leaves end users scratching their head as to why a perfectly serviceable computer, by Windows standards, suddenly doesn't wanna work. :-) C'mon! Read all the "independant" reseach on Microsoft's web sites about how this only ever happens in Linux!!! ttfn John PS: I'm so proud of myself DIdn't say winblows, winsucks or other pegroative even once. :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On April 19, 2004 11:00 am, Owain Sutton wrote: > > Glib 2.4, xmms (not the version bundled with Mandrake, which crashed > randomly), Odd, they all work fine for me..but never mind. > > Are you using urpmi or the GUI equivalents called Mandrake Update, > > Install Software and so on? > > I'm talking about stuff not included with Mandrake. Like There is really nothing stopping you from setting up a urpmi source for any site that has rpm's on it. One small caveat about using RPMs that are targeted at Red Hat or SuSE...they have slightly different file structures so it's a crap shoot whether or not they'll work properly. Source files are a different ballgame, of course, but I'm not about to suggest that you try that. :-) ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: {Spam?} [newbie] Seti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, What does "0" mean? Also, can you explain the meaning of the whole syntax? TIA type "man 5 crontab" in a console and hit enter... HTH, Carl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DANGER!
et wrote: On Monday 19 April 2004 08:11 am, Tina wrote: You know I even read trough it sometimes you best just remember you have to eat my cooking AND I have access to your pc rotflmao Hey TIna,,, come join us over in the OT group... (talk about a time sink) Er - you sure she's ready for that? ;-) Sir Robin -- "If the lion could speak, we would not understand it." - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
On Monday 19 April 2004 06:24 pm, et wrote: > On Monday 19 April 2004 08:59 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 08:36, The Other wrote: > > > 04/19/04 > > > > > > To the List Administrator, > > > > > > I got this message from the mailer-daemon, but I also got me email > > > through to the list. (If the attachment didn't come through, my > > > email was a reply on Linuxant drivers and Winmodems.) > > > > > > This is the second time this has happened to me. > > > > > > What must I do to fix this problem? > > > > I'm having the exact same problem. . . > > > > Rich > > so does everyone... best way to handle it is to make a filter and drop > anything from mandrax.org Every one of these that I've gotten includes the following in the headers of the returned (encapsulated) message: >>> snip Received: from jigsaw-sbs02.jigsawfinance.com (host213-106-224-113.no-dns-yet.ntli.net [213.106.224.113]) by smtp.mandrax.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC3956A0F for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 23:18:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jigsaw-sbs02.jigsawfinance.com ([213.106.224.113]) by jigsaw-sbs02.jigsawfinance.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 17 Apr 2004 04:01:11 +0100 Received: by jigsaw-sbs02.jigsawfinance.com (Microsoft Connector for POP3 Mailboxes 5.00.2195) with SMTP (Global POP3 Download) id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 17 Apr 2004 04:01:03 +0100 Received: from smtp.mandrake.com (smtp.mandrake.com [212.85.147.176]) by lml503.securepod.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i3H2US519070 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 17 Apr 2004 03:30:38 +0100 Received: from smtp.mandrax.org (smtp.mandrax.org [212.85.147.169]) by smtp.mandrake.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B41283C0F; Sat, 17 Apr 2004 04:17:04 +0200 (CEST) >>> snip I don't have sufficient skill to make much sense of this. Is the culprit Andrew Cliffe, codeweavers.net, Jigsawfinance.com or Microsoft Connector? (My money is on the latter.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] data loss - what's happening
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 06:58 am, many eyes viewed Weiers Coetser's words:- > Shows How lost I can sometimes be: > > I thought one of the beauties of the Multiple desktops with Linux is > that when I log-out, the desktop settings and programmes are saved and > restored as they were when I log in for the next session. They are, but you have to save the data in the program first? Otherwise it will bring up OpenOffice all right, but because you haven't saved the data in OO.o it will be lost, because Linux doesn't save that for you, that is up to you to save in the program, AFAIK Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 + The heart is forever inexperienced. ...Henry David Thoreau This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] data loss - what's happening
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 06:42 am, many eyes viewed Stephen Kuhn's words:- > On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 06:25, Weiers Coetser wrote: > > Hi > > > > I'm running Mandrake 9.2 in a dual boot set-up with Windows. > > > > On at least three occasions I've lost some of my working documents in > > the process of rebooting. When I log out the Open Office Documents are > > open, but when I log on they are nowhere to be found, not in my Trash or > > in the place where I saved them last. I save frequently, so it is not an > > issue of losing the document because I never saved. > > Why would you leave ANY applications running when you log out? By > logging out you kill those applications and any data that's in them...so > yes, you would effectively loose the data (or document) that you're > working on. You should always close/save applications/data prior to > logging off... > > > Once or twice when I started Open Office, the filename was displayed and > > I was asked if I wanted to restore the session or save it... I can't > > remember exactly, but I think I chose both the options at different > > times and each time the result was that the file dissappeared for good. > > Try looking in the ~/.openoffice/usr/temp directory - MAYBE your > documents (the lost ones) are in there somewhere... Further to this, though not at all in my experience required on a Linux Mandrake system, in the /Tools/Options/Load/Save/General, you can specify saving every however many minutes apart. It will prompt you to remember to save on the first attempt and after do so without intrusion of your work, unless you ask to be prompted each time. There also you can also select backup each copy, and at the end of a week or whenever burn the backups to a CD and delete them from /home. I have never lost any data in OpenOffice, even when foolishly I have logged out accidentally when the program was still running. So I would say that's another thing you're doing wrong? Charlie > stephen kuhn - owner > == > illawarra computer services > a kuhn media australia company > http://kma.0catch.com > -- > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents > -- > Each team building another component has been using the most recent > tested version of the integrated system as a test bed for debugging its > piece. Their work will be set back by having that test bed change under > them. Of course it must. But the changes need to be quantized. Then each > user has periods of productive stability, interrupted by bursts of > test-bed change. This seems to be much less disruptive than a constant > rippling and trembling. - Frederick Brooks Jr., "The Mythical Man Month" -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 + If a man constantly aspires is he not elevated? ...Henry David Thoreau This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Update Mirrors
JRH wrote: On Monday 19 Apr 2004 21:34, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Congatulations ! - Now, the easy way to update is to go to system --> Configuration-->Packaging-->Mandrake Update. Nope.. It's still brining up the list of non operative mirrors from the mandrakesoft website. Let it do what it's gotta do, and wait for rpmdrake to open up, and it tells me the list of updates is empty. Look in software media manager, and everything is as it should be, what with the Strasbourg URL etc. It's beyond me.. or maybe I am not getting something here! JRH If you have found an updates mirror that appears to be working, you can add it manually in the media manager rather than using the broken ones suggested by mandrakesoft website. Click on Add, Select "Security updates" as the Type of medium, fill in the details of the path, and click OK. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10
On Monday 19 April 2004 02:33 pm, Keith Powell wrote: > On Monday 19 Apr 2004 6:45 pm, RichardA wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:17:08 +0100, Keith Powell > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I remember correctly, it was mentioned on the list some time ago > > > that the download edition will have adverts which will pop up at any > > > time. This inconvenience is to help 'persuade' us to buy the boxed > > > sets, which will be free of them. > > > > The 'ad' is in the install, whilst the packages are being copied over. > > > > Not intrusive. Not a problem. > > Thanks, Richard. Keith, if you like to see the details,,, try the ctrl+alt+f3 (or F4, for the kernel messages) watch the text messages... some are kinda funny... > > As I always click on "Details" and watch the packages being installed, > rather than looking at the "pictures", I will probably miss the ad anyway! > > Cheers > > Keith -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Changing Defaults in OOo??
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 05:17 pm, many eyes viewed Lee Wiggers's words:- > Also never have been able to add words to the dictionary. This is easily fixed as you create your own dictionary, you can in fact create as many dictionaries as you want. Legal, medical etc., so these terms don't just go into the normal dictionary. But there are many words that I just place into the ordinary OO.o dictionary, and they seem to stick. I use the English spelling. I think though, that both words are retained. Which is fine, as they are often so in my Oxford dictionary. I used to love the M$ Word, but once I got to know OpenOffice better, now use it exclusively. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 + Aim above morality. Be not simply good, be good for something. ...Henry David Thoreau This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
On Monday 19 April 2004 08:59 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 08:36, The Other wrote: > > 04/19/04 > > > > To the List Administrator, > > > > I got this message from the mailer-daemon, but I also got me email > > through to the list. (If the attachment didn't come through, my > > email was a reply on Linuxant drivers and Winmodems.) > > > > This is the second time this has happened to me. > > > > What must I do to fix this problem? > > I'm having the exact same problem. . . > > Rich so does everyone... best way to handle it is to make a filter and drop anything from mandrax.org -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DANGER!
On Monday 19 April 2004 08:11 am, Tina wrote: > You know I even read trough it sometimes you best just remember you have > to eat my cooking AND I have access to your pc > rotflmao Hey TIna,,, come join us over in the OT group... (talk about a time sink) > On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 20:55, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > Warning all list members: the girlfriend has subscribed! > > > > stephen kuhn - owner > > == > > illawarra computer services > > a kuhn media australia company > > http://kma.0catch.com > > -- > > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > > We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents > > -- > > Hermes: "The poor demented honky." > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > > -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
John Wilson wrote: On April 18, 2004 11:54 pm, Owain Sutton wrote: Surely an oxymoron? I'm trying hard, really hard, but I've yet to install any software as easily as on XP...oh, apart from Mozilla. Now considering that Mozilla installs exactly the same way as every other package in MDK, I'm starting to wonder what problem you are having with everything else. Glib 2.4, xmms (not the version bundled with Mandrake, which crashed randomly), Are you using urpmi or the GUI equivalents called Mandrake Update, Install Software and so on? I'm talking about stuff not included with Mandrake. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] data loss - what's happening
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:05:13 +0200 Weiers Coetser disseminated the following: > Shows How lost I can sometimes be: > > I thought one of the beauties of the Multiple desktops with Linux is > that when I log-out, the desktop settings and programmes are saved and > restored as they were when I log in for the next session. Well, your 'session' is saved, ie. the apps you had open should open again, but we're talkin' writing files to the disk here, a bit different. Now, there *are* ways to manage this, like Screen, which allows you to log out and leave processes you had running to continue til you 'reattach' (even from another location!), but I don't think you wanna mess with that yet. -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ "I don't give a hoot about what people have to say, I'm laughing as I'm analyzed, Lunatics Anonymous, that's where I belong, sure 'cuz I am one, til my strength is gone yeah this beat goes on..." -- The Kings Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Apollon
On Monday 19 Apr 2004 18:41, Ian Urie wrote: > On Monday 19 Apr 2004 00:04, Dan Gordon wrote: > > On Sunday 18 April 2004 05:56 pm, Drew Martin wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > Sorry this has been asked before,but I have done a clean > > > install of MKD 10.0 CE,and Apollon has stop working when I installed > > > it.It will not connect to any sever.What do I need to download to make > > > it work? Drew > > > > I am having the same sort of problem, for me it seems to be a problen > > with the fastrack plugin, openFT works but there are not many users > > listed. It worked fine in 9.2 but not so in 10. > > Fastrack plugin is working here under 10. > FastTrack: > Status:Online > Users: 3.6 million > Files Shared: 719.4 million > Total Size Shared: 8.2 million GB > > :-) I wonder why this is?Because when I disable Fast Track,Apollon runs ok,but if I enable Fast Track it goes tits up and will not connect. This is the error I get when try to run it from Konsole: eQMetaObject::findSignal:KFileTreeView: Conflict with QListView::doubleClicked(QListViewItem*,const QPoint&,int) qt KBackgroundIface KBookmarkManager-/home/drew/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml KBookmarkNotifier KDesktopIface (default) KDirNotify-1 KIO::Scheduler KScreensaverIface KonqUndoManager kdesktop ksycoca [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** GIFT-FATAL: unable to start 'FastTrack', no idea why (hopefully the protocol provided some info) *** Often times more information can be found in the log file or with the -v command line switch. *** GIFT-FATAL: unable to start 'FastTrack', no idea why (hopefully the protocol provided some info) *** Often times more information can be found in the log file or with the -v command line switch. *** GIFT-FATAL: unable to start 'FastTrack', no idea why (hopefully the protocol provided some info) *** Often times more information can be found in the log file or with the -v command line switch. Drew Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] data loss - what's happening
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 06:25, Weiers Coetser wrote: Hi I'm running Mandrake 9.2 in a dual boot set-up with Windows. On at least three occasions I've lost some of my working documents in the process of rebooting. When I log out the Open Office Documents are open, but when I log on they are nowhere to be found, not in my Trash or in the place where I saved them last. I save frequently, so it is not an issue of losing the document because I never saved. Why would you leave ANY applications running when you log out? By logging out you kill those applications and any data that's in them...so yes, you would effectively loose the data (or document) that you're working on. You should always close/save applications/data prior to logging off... Once or twice when I started Open Office, the filename was displayed and I was asked if I wanted to restore the session or save it... I can't remember exactly, but I think I chose both the options at different times and each time the result was that the file dissappeared for good. Try looking in the ~/.openoffice/usr/temp directory - MAYBE your documents (the lost ones) are in there somewhere... stephen kuhn - owner == Shows How lost I can sometimes be: I thought one of the beauties of the Multiple desktops with Linux is that when I log-out, the desktop settings and programmes are saved and restored as they were when I log in for the next session. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Update Mirrors
On Monday 19 April 2004 22:55, JRH wrote: > On Monday 19 Apr 2004 21:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Hmm... Maybe you already are "uptodate" ? > > I shouldnt be, as I have only just re-installed after Windows > quite successfully demolished my Linux install (dont ask!). > > Whatever, it's gotten me beat well and truly. > > It's been a long day, I'm tired, and I have overdosed on Nicotine > and Caffeine tonight, trying to sort this out, and I must admit > defeat. > > I'm off to bed, ready to refresh myself for round 2 tomorrow :-) > > Thanks for the help, > > JRH Sorry I couln't get you updated. Good idea to retry tomorrow. One last advice, though : you can neutralize the caffeine with equivalent doses of single malt whisky. Sleep well :-) Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] data loss - what's happening
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 06:25, Weiers Coetser wrote: Hi I'm running Mandrake 9.2 in a dual boot set-up with Windows. On at least three occasions I've lost some of my working documents in the process of rebooting. When I log out the Open Office Documents are open, but when I log on they are nowhere to be found, not in my Trash or in the place where I saved them last. I save frequently, so it is not an issue of losing the document because I never saved. Why would you leave ANY applications running when you log out? By logging out you kill those applications and any data that's in them...so yes, you would effectively loose the data (or document) that you're working on. You should always close/save applications/data prior to logging off... Once or twice when I started Open Office, the filename was displayed and I was asked if I wanted to restore the session or save it... I can't remember exactly, but I think I chose both the options at different times and each time the result was that the file dissappeared for good. Try looking in the ~/.openoffice/usr/temp directory - MAYBE your documents (the lost ones) are in there somewhere... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Each team building another component has been using the most recent tested version of the integrated system as a test bed for debugging its piece. Their work will be set back by having that test bed change under them. Of course it must. But the changes need to be quantized. Then each user has periods of productive stability, interrupted by bursts of test-bed change. This seems to be much less disruptive than a constant rippling and trembling. - Frederick Brooks Jr., "The Mythical Man Month" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Shows How lost I can sometimes be: I thought one of the beauties of the Multiple desktops with Linux is that when I log-out, the desktop settings and programmes are saved and restored as they were when I log in for the next session. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] chkrootkit question ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:33:50 +1000 Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 14:28, RickS wrote: > > > hmm.. I will give that a go and see what happens, I cant get to > > it til tomorrow since its 12:30am here in detroit .. > > & time for some sleep :) > > 11 mile and Schoenherr - Warren. That's where I did most of my > grownin' up. Detroit sucks - yech. Went to high school downtown > near City Airport. Small world, ay? > > stephen kuhn - owner Small world for sure... but as Steven Wright said, " I wouldnt want to paint it." So you were an east-sider ... but Oh my, you didnt just get outta state.. you jumped continents.. good for you 8) cause 90 sunny days here a year just isn't enough 8( been nice the last couple days tho.. I'm at merriman and mich ave .. a west-sider .. but Detroit is still more or less the same except the Pistons and Tigers are playin very well 8) Found some info online through google since I didnt know what "aliens" meant .. yet ..but gonna get the server re-installed and update the kernel, so may be off for a lil while, thx for the help Stephen, Always a pleasure Ricks - Linux 2.4.22-28mdkenterprise i686 gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 + BOFH excuse #432: Borg nanites have infested the server -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAhD2vJo/ckCSqvmERAlZIAKCea3UzDmqXpx9h1DnQ6Y7YEAkN1QCgwaUB J1BK3lugoxb6UIK4W5U8gd0= =QB6x -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Update Mirrors
On Monday 19 Apr 2004 21:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Hmm... Maybe you already are "uptodate" ? I shouldnt be, as I have only just re-installed after Windows quite successfully demolished my Linux install (dont ask!). Whatever, it's gotten me beat well and truly. It's been a long day, I'm tired, and I have overdosed on Nicotine and Caffeine tonight, trying to sort this out, and I must admit defeat. I'm off to bed, ready to refresh myself for round 2 tomorrow :-) Thanks for the help, JRH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone have experience with this tool?
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 06:33, robin wrote: > Aron Smith wrote: > > http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/512350/RIP.html > > Aron, be careful about your subject lines - that one could get caught by > a lot of people's spam filters ;-) > > Sir Robin Ain't that something he should be asking his wife? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- "This is a job for BOB VIOLENCE and SCUM, the INCREDIBLY STUPID MUTANT DOG." -- Bob Violence Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Update Mirrors
On Monday 19 April 2004 22:38, JRH wrote: > On Monday 19 Apr 2004 21:34, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Congatulations ! - Now, the easy way to update is to go to > > system --> Configuration-->Packaging-->Mandrake Update. > > Nope.. > > It's still brining up the list of non operative mirrors from the > mandrakesoft website. > > Let it do what it's gotta do, and wait for rpmdrake to open up, > and it tells me the list of updates is empty. > > Look in software media manager, and everything is as it should > be, what with the Strasbourg URL etc. > > It's beyond me.. or maybe I am not getting something here! > > JRH Hmm... Maybe you already are "uptodate" ? You can do it "brutal" way : make some directory i.e. "updates" in your home directory. Browse to the Strassbourg server, dig down to the updates and download them all into that directory. Cd into that directory, su to root and type : "urpmi.update -a". Of course thats quite goofy, but it should work. In your place I would just let it be, wait a few hours and then return to the easy.urpmi-site. Regards Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] data loss - what's happening
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 06:25, Weiers Coetser wrote: > Hi > > I'm running Mandrake 9.2 in a dual boot set-up with Windows. > > On at least three occasions I've lost some of my working documents in > the process of rebooting. When I log out the Open Office Documents are > open, but when I log on they are nowhere to be found, not in my Trash or > in the place where I saved them last. I save frequently, so it is not an > issue of losing the document because I never saved. Why would you leave ANY applications running when you log out? By logging out you kill those applications and any data that's in them...so yes, you would effectively loose the data (or document) that you're working on. You should always close/save applications/data prior to logging off... > Once or twice when I started Open Office, the filename was displayed and > I was asked if I wanted to restore the session or save it... I can't > remember exactly, but I think I chose both the options at different > times and each time the result was that the file dissappeared for good. Try looking in the ~/.openoffice/usr/temp directory - MAYBE your documents (the lost ones) are in there somewhere... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Each team building another component has been using the most recent tested version of the integrated system as a test bed for debugging its piece. Their work will be set back by having that test bed change under them. Of course it must. But the changes need to be quantized. Then each user has periods of productive stability, interrupted by bursts of test-bed change. This seems to be much less disruptive than a constant rippling and trembling. - Frederick Brooks Jr., "The Mythical Man Month" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] data loss - what's happening
On Monday 19 April 2004 22:25, Weiers Coetser wrote: > Hi > > I'm running Mandrake 9.2 in a dual boot set-up with Windows. > > On at least three occasions I've lost some of my working > documents in the process of rebooting. When I log out the Open > Office Documents are open, but when I log on they are nowhere to > be found, not in my Trash or in the place where I saved them > last. I save frequently, so it is not an issue of losing the > document because I never saved. > > Once or twice when I started Open Office, the filename was > displayed and I was asked if I wanted to restore the session or > save it... I can't remember exactly, but I think I chose both the > options at different times and each time the result was that the > file dissappeared for good. > > Does anybody have any clue what happened. I've lost some crucial > data in the process. What am I doing wrong? > > Weiers I can't answer about Open Office, but you can always find a file if you can remember at least its partial filename : become root and type : "updatedb". When finished, become user again and type : "locate . HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Copying FTP tree
Arys P. Deloso wrote: How do you get an exact copy of an FTP tree with ALL the permissions and time stamps preserved? I tried: 1. draksync BUT it gives up (does nothing) especially when the stuff gets big; AND 2. ncftp with recursive get but recurses only 2 levels down with sub-subdirectories having no contents AND permissions NOT preserved. Is there a much simpler way to do this? I haven't used it, but you might want to check out mirrordir. Sir Robin -- "If the lion could speak, we would not understand it." - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Update Mirrors
On Monday 19 Apr 2004 21:34, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Congatulations ! - Now, the easy way to update is to go to > system --> Configuration-->Packaging-->Mandrake Update. Nope.. It's still brining up the list of non operative mirrors from the mandrakesoft website. Let it do what it's gotta do, and wait for rpmdrake to open up, and it tells me the list of updates is empty. Look in software media manager, and everything is as it should be, what with the Strasbourg URL etc. It's beyond me.. or maybe I am not getting something here! JRH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone have experience with this tool?
Aron Smith wrote: http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/512350/RIP.html Aron, be careful about your subject lines - that one could get caught by a lot of people's spam filters ;-) Sir Robin -- "If the lion could speak, we would not understand it." - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Update Mirrors
On Monday 19 April 2004 22:25, James Hill wrote: > On Monday 19 Apr 2004 21:21, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > But proxad is in France, so if you wait a few hours most > > europeans have gone to bed, which supposedly opens a "window" > > for you. > > I've managed to get into Strasbourg, at around about 60k/s, so > reasonable by my standards! > > I've done the urpmi.addmedia main thing, and it's downloaded > quite nicely. > > Now I just got to figure out how to install the updates :-) > > JRH Congatulations ! - Now, the easy way to update is to go to system --> Configuration-->Packaging-->Mandrake Update. Tat is, if MDK 10.0CE still has all the updates in "main". But things are quite messy right now, so have a little patience. Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Update Mirrors
On Monday 19 Apr 2004 21:21, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > But proxad is in France, so if you wait a few hours most europeans > have gone to bed, which supposedly opens a "window" for you. I've managed to get into Strasbourg, at around about 60k/s, so reasonable by my standards! I've done the urpmi.addmedia main thing, and it's downloaded quite nicely. Now I just got to figure out how to install the updates :-) JRH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] data loss - what's happening
Hi I'm running Mandrake 9.2 in a dual boot set-up with Windows. On at least three occasions I've lost some of my working documents in the process of rebooting. When I log out the Open Office Documents are open, but when I log on they are nowhere to be found, not in my Trash or in the place where I saved them last. I save frequently, so it is not an issue of losing the document because I never saved. Once or twice when I started Open Office, the filename was displayed and I was asked if I wanted to restore the session or save it... I can't remember exactly, but I think I chose both the options at different times and each time the result was that the file dissappeared for good. Does anybody have any clue what happened. I've lost some crucial data in the process. What am I doing wrong? Weiers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Update Mirrors
On Monday 19 April 2004 21:38, James Hill wrote: > On Monday 19 Apr 2004 20:33, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > 3. As a last resort, if you can't get into it, return to this > > list, and I'll send you the needed commands. > > Cant get into anything at all. be it urpmi.org or PLF or any > of the mandrake update mirors. > > Everyone must have the same idea as me! > > JRH Certainly ! - As far as I can see everyone is entering ftp.proxad.net right now. It's almost a DOS attack. I tried just now to enter it in order to construct a script that could help you, but with no luck. So I can't send it right now, sorry. But proxad is in France, so if you wait a few hours most europeans have gone to bed, which supposedly opens a "window" for you. On the other hand, adding a media by hand isn't that hard : Browse to some mirror with your wanted rpms, dig down to the directory called RPMS and enter it. Copy the address line from your browser. Open a terminal, su to root, give password and type : urpmi.addmedia then, go back to your browser, go to a parent directory called "base". If that directory is, say two levels above the RPMS directory, then add this to your teminal line : with ../../base/hdlist.cz so the line in the root terminal becomes : urpmi.addmedia with ../../base.hdlist.cz (these two lines have to become one line in the terminal). Finally, run this line by pressing . Now, you have a new source defined and can use it from "install/update software". All this can be accomplished from the "Manage Sources" as well, but then you probably won't get to grips with the general idea. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone have experience with this tool?
On Monday 19 April 2004 12:39 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 01:55, Aron Smith wrote: > > http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/512350/RIP.html > > Nah, but sounds like a good tool; I prefer to use either Knoppix or > Morphix (actually, more Knoppix because Gnome sucks); but in the > meantime, it sounds like it might be worth a download - sure you got the > bandwidth for it? (g) 144 meg oops 1.44meg > > stephen kuhn - owner > == > illawarra computer services > a kuhn media australia company > http://kma.0catch.com > -- > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents > -- > Absence makes the heart grow fonder. -- Sextus Aurelius Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone have experience with this tool?
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 01:55, Aron Smith wrote: > http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/512350/RIP.html Nah, but sounds like a good tool; I prefer to use either Knoppix or Morphix (actually, more Knoppix because Gnome sucks); but in the meantime, it sounds like it might be worth a download - sure you got the bandwidth for it? (g) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Absence makes the heart grow fonder. -- Sextus Aurelius Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Update Mirrors
On Monday 19 Apr 2004 20:33, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > 3. As a last resort, if you can't get into it, return to this list, > and I'll send you the needed commands. Cant get into anything at all. be it urpmi.org or PLF or any of the mandrake update mirors. Everyone must have the same idea as me! JRH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:48:17 +0300 robin disseminated the following: > > Perhaps you could refresh my memory? ;-) > > I've only used XP occasionally, and found it rather difficult. Tell me about it, I just had to fight with a client's XP laptop this morning, and you know what the problem was? It simply would *not* allow me to get rid of a file association, and had mysteriously 'lost' the path to notepad.exe. That was after I installed Firefox because the poor bastage's IE had it's homepage hijacked and even AdAware couldn't get rid of it. -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ "Athens built the Acropolis. Corinth was a commercial city, interested in purely materialistic things. Today we admire Athens, visit it, preserve the old temples, yet we hardly ever set foot in Corinth." -- Dr. Harold Urey, Nobel Laureate in chemistry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Update Mirrors
On Monday 19 Apr 2004 20:12, Greg Meyer wrote: > It's a new directory structure. Have you changed your urpmi sources to > accomodate the new structure? Err. nope! what do I have to modify? and how? Any ideas appreciated! JRH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:23:09 -0400 Guy Rouillier disseminated the following: > I guess I'm doing something wrong. I've been splitting my time between > Windows (NT derivatives) and Linux since about 1999 (Windows and OS/2 > before then.) The biggest cost investment has been keeping my preferred > text editor up to date (TSE - console mode editor - non Microsoft) and > that cost me about$70 originally and nothing since (because I contribute > to beta testing.) Java is free. (I program for a living.) You are > correct that Microsoft releases a torrent of patches, but I think I've > probably spent an equal amount of time reinstalling Linux releases and > upgrading packages. Has not been an issue with the numerous Linux > servers I've deployed. If you've spent an equal amount of time 'reinstalling Linux releases and upgrading packages' compared to Windows, you are doing something seriously wrong (not that that is unexpected, like I said before, it's not what you are used to). There are no Blaster or Sobig worms for Linux, and never will be. There is no flaw in any web browser on the Linux platform that would allow total compromise of the system simply by loading a webpage with maliciouse code. The worst flaw we've seen in any Linux distro in the last year has been the privelege escalation bug in the kernel, and even that required that the 'cracker' have or know of an existing user account. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I would put a default install of Mandrake 9 with an old kernel and no firewall up against a fully patched, firewalled, and properly configured (ie. getting rid of the default root password..blank?) Windows box any day of the week. ...and if you've spent only 70 dollars in all these years, then: a) you've never upgraded beyond Win98, you've never used any Office component, any Adobe product other than the reader, or done anything but code in TSE and play Solitaire. or b) you've warez'd a whole whack of apps (hey, we've all been there) > > > >Funny how any time someone points out a flaw in Windows, they're > >labelled a religious zealot. Does it somehow ease the suffering of > >knowing you are completely wrong? > > No problem with discussing flaws, both Windows and Linux have plenty. > This discussion started with respect to the winsux-winblows comments. > Please explain how those constitute dispassionate discussion of the > comparative strengths and weaknesses of the two platforms. It doesn't, it's fun, get a sense of humour. > Likewise, my friend. I've preferred keyboard to mouse for over 20 > years. I'm not going to adapt my preferences to Linux. Certainly you > can relate to that Joe? The OS is supposed to respond to the user, not > the other way around. ...okay, so Windows 'adapts' to your preferences? I guess you missed my post below, about 'man xmodmap'. Does Windows let you completely remap the keyboard to suit your taste? Does Windows allow you to choose from dozens of radically different GUI interfaces, some that get you off the mouse completely (Screen, RatPoison)? No, it doesn't, so don't even attempt to paint the Linux desktop as inflexible or unresponsive, Windows won that race a long time ago, and that's why we like to call it 'winblows' or 'winsux', because, well, it just does. LOL! This is fun, keep 'em comin'! -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ I met my maker, I made him cry And on my shoulder he asked me why His people won't fly through the storm I said "Listen up man, they don't even know you're born" -- Oasis, D'You Know What I Mean? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Update Mirrors
On Monday 19 April 2004 03:06 pm, JRH wrote: > so what is actually wrong with the update mirrors then? > > I managed to pull some stuff down from the czech site yesterday, but at > very slow speed. > > Now, not one of them will work. > > Whats up? maintenance? or just sheer overload of people trying to improve > 10 community? (I have just reinstalled, and it's playing up something > rotten. Last time, I had to download 233MB of bugfixes!). > It's a new directory structure. Have you changed your urpmi sources to accomodate the new structure? -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Update Mirrors
so what is actually wrong with the update mirrors then? I managed to pull some stuff down from the czech site yesterday, but at very slow speed. Now, not one of them will work. Whats up? maintenance? or just sheer overload of people trying to improve 10 community? (I have just reinstalled, and it's playing up something rotten. Last time, I had to download 233MB of bugfixes!). It's getting frustrating! :-) JRH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10
On Monday 19 Apr 2004 6:45 pm, RichardA wrote: > On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:17:08 +0100, Keith Powell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If I remember correctly, it was mentioned on the list some time ago that > > the download edition will have adverts which will pop up at any time. This > > inconvenience is to help 'persuade' us to buy the boxed sets, which > > will be free of them. > The 'ad' is in the install, whilst the packages are being copied over. > > Not intrusive. Not a problem. Thanks, Richard. As I always click on "Details" and watch the packages being installed, rather than looking at the "pictures", I will probably miss the ad anyway! Cheers Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ATI Radeon 9000Pro
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 17:00, Lanman wrote: > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > On Tuesday 20 April 2004 17:12, Lanman wrote: > >>Here's the down-side. I can't run the Radeon in 3D Accelerated > >>mode. If I try to select the XFree86 with 3D Acceleration, the > > > > http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/linux/radeon-linux.html?type=linux&prodType=graphicâ=productsLINUXdriver&submit.x=12&submit.y=6&submit=GO%21 > > > OK Kaj. That just made a little too much sense! can't believe I didn't > try that first! DoH ? If you're a club member then you can also get it packaged. I only mention it because I had a hell of a time getting it installed on 9.2, before I realised it was a simple 'urpmi' & a couple of config changes away... http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/MandrakeClub/comm/10.0/i586/System_Kernel_and_hardware.html Good luck! A. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:55:42 +0100 Margot disseminated the following: > > How hard is it to type "urpmi "? > > > > That's the easy bit. Finding out that urpmi exists is the difficult > bit for a newbie - it seems to be rarely mentioned in books or > magazine articles on linux, which is a great shame as it is one of > Mandrake's best features. I struggled with tarballs for months > before I discovered how easy it was to use urpmi! Actually, that only reinforces the point. You were used to having to download some installer from who knows where, because that was your experience. People who came up using *nix find Windows incredibly difficult to use, it works both ways. -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ "This isn't America; the government did not invent intelligence material nor exaggerate the description of the threat to justify their attack." -- Israeli newspaper Haaretz, regarding the killing of Sheik Ahmed Yassin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 07:54:20 +0100 Owain Sutton disseminated the following: > >Installing software is just as easy, if not easier, but it took me a while > >to figure that out. > > > Surely an oxymoron? I'm trying hard, really hard, but I've yet to > install any software as easily as on XP...oh, apart from Mozilla. Hmmm, not sure about the 'oxymoron' part, I usually associate that with things like 'American Intelligence', but ya, software install doesn't get any easier than: 'Hey, looks pretty cool!' urpmi 'Sweet.' As opposed to (on Windows): 'Hey, looks pretty cool!' 1. Either shell out a hundred bucks and hope you like it/it works, warez it, or fill out a form with a bunch of fake personal info so I can download a shareware app that doesn't do everything til I pay or find a crack/keygen. 2. Reboot 3. Find out is laden with spyware, doesn't work, or has overwritten some really important .dll, making the system unstable. ... -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ "Wars such as those which have occurred in Iraq only allow hatred, violence and terror to proliferate." -- Spain's prime minister-elect, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updates.....
JRH wrote: so what is actually wrong with the update mirrors then? I managed to pull some stuff down from the czech site yesterday, but at very slow speed. Now, not one of them will work. Whats up? maintenance? or just sheer overload of people trying to improve 10 community? (I have just reinstalled, and it's playing up something rotten. Last time, I had to download 233MB of bugfixes!). It's getting frustrating! :-) JRH Have you used easy urpmi to redefine your sources http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php Its likely that the server you are using has finially swapped over to the new format, you need to go to easy urpmi and redine your urpmi sources.. As for the number of updates... are you surprised?? community was more or less an extra release canditate.. Official is the finished product.. there are a heap of things that were fixed or updated between community and official. I would feel abit weird if there were not significant updates... That was after all, the whole point for releasing community in the first place. -- rgds Frank Hauptle (aka Franki) For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl & PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com Free web developer resources. Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
John Wilson wrote: On April 18, 2004 11:54 pm, Owain Sutton wrote: Surely an oxymoron? I'm trying hard, really hard, but I've yet to install any software as easily as on XP...oh, apart from Mozilla. Now considering that Mozilla installs exactly the same way as every other package in MDK, I'm starting to wonder what problem you are having with everything else. Are you using urpmi or the GUI equivalents called Mandrake Update, Install Software and so on? Because if you are then, like Joe, you'll find that installing software is just as easy, easier in fact, than installing most software in XP and dealing with at least 3 installation packages, often unresolved dependancies that cause XP to hiccup or complain. Oh well..troll away if you must, Owain. A while ago I rebooted into Windows and installed a game. It shows how long it's been since I've used Windows that when the message came up to exit all Windows programs, I was going "Huh? Why?" Then of course, there is the fun of uninstalling Windows software. Hmm, editing the registry to get rid of crap left by botched uninstalls - now _that's_ what I call user-friendly! ;-) Sir Robin -- "If the lion could speak, we would not understand it." - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 00:05:22 +0100 Owain Sutton disseminated the following: I'm trying my hardest to like Linux, but I've found nothing so far that was not easier on XP Not easier, just different. Of course, I have the benefit of hindsight, using MDK for a few years now. Installing software is just as easy, if not easier, but it took me a while to figure that out. I can't think of anything now that is not as 'easy' as it was on XP, or even easier and less prone to bugs. Perhaps you could refresh my memory? ;-) I've only used XP occasionally, and found it rather difficult. Sir Robin -- "If the lion could speak, we would not understand it." - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Updates.....
so what is actually wrong with the update mirrors then? I managed to pull some stuff down from the czech site yesterday, but at very slow speed. Now, not one of them will work. Whats up? maintenance? or just sheer overload of people trying to improve 10 community? (I have just reinstalled, and it's playing up something rotten. Last time, I had to download 233MB of bugfixes!). It's getting frustrating! :-) JRH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 22:54, Lee Wiggers wrote: On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:54:33 -0600 "Steve Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You are 100% right and that is where all the problems occurs in getting it all setup and making changes after setup. Bull crap I set up 4 9.2 boxes on our office net with sylpheed and openoffice. Konq as browser. Last fall. Not one complaint from anyone since the first day. Showed them how to mount the fileserver and walked away. There was one complaint. From me. I don't like oo. (Coulda been something to do with the double-barrel shotgun you had layin' across yer lap whilst you were doing the installations and giving instructions on mounting the server, though...) (and OO - well, it's always OO-slow...but it does get the job done.) It's noticably faster in 10.0 (and that's not just because it's a new version of OO, since I was using OO 1.1 under Mdk 9.2). I've grown to appreciate it more over the years, since its early days as Star Office, when SO still had that hideous "do everything under one roof" philosophy which made it take over your entire desktop. I still prefer LyX for my own writing, but I use OO a lot for grading and commenting on student papers - I have a bunch of macros and autotext set up for common operations, which is a big timesaver. Sir Robin -- "If the lion could speak, we would not understand it." - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:17:08 +0100, Keith Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is one thing, which I am hoping that you, or anyone else with a > greater knowledge of Mandrakesoft than I, can answer. > > I assume that the "cheap" CDs I would buy from, for instance, The > Libranet Emporium, would be the download edition. If I remember > correctly, it was mentioned on the list some time ago that the > download edition will have adverts which will pop up at any time. This > inconvenience is to help 'persuade' us to buy the boxed sets, which > will be free of them. > > Is this correct, or am I dreaming it? Knowing me, it is probably the > latter! > > Any information will be greatfully received. > > Many thanks > > Keith The 'ad' is in the install, whilst the packages are being copied over. Not intrusive. Not a problem. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Apollon
On Monday 19 Apr 2004 00:04, Dan Gordon wrote: > On Sunday 18 April 2004 05:56 pm, Drew Martin wrote: > > Hi All, > > Sorry this has been asked before,but I have done a clean install > > of MKD 10.0 CE,and Apollon has stop working when I installed it.It will > > not connect to any sever.What do I need to download to make it work? Drew > > I am having the same sort of problem, for me it seems to be a problen with > the fastrack plugin, openFT works but there are not many users listed. It > worked fine in 9.2 but not so in 10. Fastrack plugin is working here under 10. FastTrack: Status:Online Users: 3.6 million Files Shared: 719.4 million Total Size Shared: 8.2 million GB :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Broadband for Doon Valley It's a reality!!! Now going penguin hunting!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Anyone have experience with this tool?
http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/512350/RIP.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ATI Radeon 9000Pro
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 20 April 2004 17:12, Lanman wrote: Hey Gang, I've been running into a wierd bug with XFree86, and I was looking for some suggestions or ideas on what I can do about it. First, I'm running Mandrake 10.0 CE on an Asus P4S800, with a P-4 2.80 E CPU ( 1 MB of onboard cache ), 512 MB's of DDR400 Ram, and an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro AGP Video card with 64 MB's of ram. I have 2 different kernels (2.6.3 Stock kernel from 10.0 CE as well as the 2.6.3-7 kernel) both of which run 100% perfect on this system, and XFree86 4.3-30 handles the video. Here's the down-side. I can't run the Radeon in 3D Accelerated mode. If I try to select the XFree86 with 3D Acceleration, the system immediately freezes with a kernel lock. I can't open a new terminal to run a shutdown or reboot, the system isn't available across my network, and XFree86 never times out from the test sequence. Am I missing something here? XFree86 states that it's using the default "fglrx" radeon driver module that came with CE, and when I run the GLX-Gears test, these are my results; 1789 frames in 5.0 seconds = 357.800 FPS 2000 frames in 5.0 seconds = 400.000 FPS 1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 368.000 FPS 1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 368.000 FPS 1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 368.000 FPS 1920 frames in 5.0 seconds = 384.000 FPS 1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 368.000 FPS 1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 368.000 FPS But it also states that I'm missing another component; Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". Is this included in 10.0 CE or do I need the retail version? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, unless they have to do with installing Windows! Grin! Lanman Don't know if this helps, Lanman : http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/linux/radeon-linux.html?type=linux&prodType=graphic&prod=productsLINUXdriver&submit.x=12&submit.y=6&submit=GO%21 Kaj Haulrich. OK Kaj. That just made a little too much sense! can't believe I didn't try that first! DoH ? Thanks. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Saturday 17 April 2004 21:07, Anne Wilson wrote: I do believe that we will gradually win people over, but the battle is far from won. I'm very confident you're right, Anne. - However, I sometimes get this strange and forbidden feeling : What happens when everybody changes over ? - Or, to rephrase : when everybody scuttles their Volkswagens and drive Ferraris, what joy do I have with my Ferrari ? When the rest of the world starts using Linux, they'll probably be using something like KDE, so you can change your desktop to fvwm to give it that retro-unix look ;-) Sir Robin -- "If the lion could speak, we would not understand it." - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
Job Evers wrote: On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:38:30 -0400 JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:52:33 -0400 et disseminated the following: How many people have actually *paid* for XP Pro anyway? There's prolly more pirated copies out there than legit. IIRC, I never forked over a single dime for Windows or any software that ran on it. Then I found out I could go legit(well, okay, the MPAA might have a few issues with me), get a better OS, with all the software I needed, and still not pay a dime. I can see a lot of other people making the same discovery. I unfortunately have two legal copies of XP. One copy came with my Gateway laptop even though I begged them not to put it on there (The CD is still in the original shrink wrap). The other copy was received as part of a 'special' Microsoft was having on campus in which they gave away copies of XP to students. Just about anybody who buys a new computer gets stuck buying a copy of XP! I've managed to avoid XP so far. My previous computer came with the standard - presumably pirated - copy of Win98 (first edition - gaaah!) and my new box came with nothing. To the credit of the people in the shop, they didn't bat an eyelid when I asked for a bare box and specified that all the hardware had to be Linux-compatible. Sir Robin -- "If the lion could speak, we would not understand it." - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ATI Radeon 9000Pro
On Tuesday 20 April 2004 17:12, Lanman wrote: > Hey Gang, I've been running into a wierd bug with XFree86, and I > was looking for some suggestions or ideas on what I can do about > it. > > First, I'm running Mandrake 10.0 CE on an Asus P4S800, with a P-4 > 2.80 E CPU ( 1 MB of onboard cache ), 512 MB's of DDR400 Ram, and > an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro AGP Video card with 64 MB's of ram. > > I have 2 different kernels (2.6.3 Stock kernel from 10.0 CE as > well as the 2.6.3-7 kernel) both of which run 100% perfect on > this system, and XFree86 4.3-30 handles the video. > > Here's the down-side. I can't run the Radeon in 3D Accelerated > mode. If I try to select the XFree86 with 3D Acceleration, the > system immediately freezes with a kernel lock. I can't open a new > terminal to run a shutdown or reboot, the system isn't available > across my network, and XFree86 never times out from the test > sequence. > > Am I missing something here? XFree86 states that it's using the > default "fglrx" radeon driver module that came with CE, and when > I run the GLX-Gears test, these are my results; > > 1789 frames in 5.0 seconds = 357.800 FPS > 2000 frames in 5.0 seconds = 400.000 FPS > 1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 368.000 FPS > 1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 368.000 FPS > 1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 368.000 FPS > 1920 frames in 5.0 seconds = 384.000 FPS > 1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 368.000 FPS > 1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 368.000 FPS > > But it also states that I'm missing another component; > > Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". > > Is this included in 10.0 CE or do I need the retail version? > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, unless they have to > do with installing Windows! Grin! > > Lanman Don't know if this helps, Lanman : http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/linux/radeon-linux.html?type=linux&prodType=graphic&prod=productsLINUXdriver&submit.x=12&submit.y=6&submit=GO%21 Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Checksumming CDs
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 00:33:08 -0400 Guy Rouillier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:20:10 +1200 > John Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >Could someone remind me ? > > > >I need to compute the md5sum of a cd before I duplicate it > > If you are doing this from Linux, then > > dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2k | md5um > > If you want to validate an .iso file before burning it, then substitute > the file name for /dev/cdrom. > That's the one, Thanks Guy Cheers John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] ATI Radeon 9000Pro
Hey Gang, I've been running into a wierd bug with XFree86, and I was looking for some suggestions or ideas on what I can do about it. First, I'm running Mandrake 10.0 CE on an Asus P4S800, with a P-4 2.80 E CPU ( 1 MB of onboard cache ), 512 MB's of DDR400 Ram, and an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro AGP Video card with 64 MB's of ram. I have 2 different kernels (2.6.3 Stock kernel from 10.0 CE as well as the 2.6.3-7 kernel) both of which run 100% perfect on this system, and XFree86 4.3-30 handles the video. Here's the down-side. I can't run the Radeon in 3D Accelerated mode. If I try to select the XFree86 with 3D Acceleration, the system immediately freezes with a kernel lock. I can't open a new terminal to run a shutdown or reboot, the system isn't available across my network, and XFree86 never times out from the test sequence. Am I missing something here? XFree86 states that it's using the default "fglrx" radeon driver module that came with CE, and when I run the GLX-Gears test, these are my results; 1789 frames in 5.0 seconds = 357.800 FPS 2000 frames in 5.0 seconds = 400.000 FPS 1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 368.000 FPS 1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 368.000 FPS 1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 368.000 FPS 1920 frames in 5.0 seconds = 384.000 FPS 1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 368.000 FPS 1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 368.000 FPS But it also states that I'm missing another component; Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". Is this included in 10.0 CE or do I need the retail version? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, unless they have to do with installing Windows! Grin! Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On April 18, 2004 11:54 pm, Owain Sutton wrote: > > Surely an oxymoron? I'm trying hard, really hard, but I've yet to > install any software as easily as on XP...oh, apart from Mozilla. Now considering that Mozilla installs exactly the same way as every other package in MDK, I'm starting to wonder what problem you are having with everything else. Are you using urpmi or the GUI equivalents called Mandrake Update, Install Software and so on? Because if you are then, like Joe, you'll find that installing software is just as easy, easier in fact, than installing most software in XP and dealing with at least 3 installation packages, often unresolved dependancies that cause XP to hiccup or complain. Oh well..troll away if you must, Owain. ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Update sites.....
On Sunday 18 Apr 2004 19:29, Lee Wiggers wrote: > http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php > > Proxad was slow this morning. I switched to strasbg and flew. > > Lee Can confirm, Strasbourg is doing the business for me.. 60+K/s, so mustnt grumble! JRH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Monday 19 April 2004 02:54 am, Owain Sutton wrote: -> ->JoeHill wrote: ->> On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 00:05:22 +0100 ->> Owain Sutton disseminated the following: ->> -> ->Installing software is just as easy, if not easier, but ->> it took me a while to figure that out. -> -> ->Surely an oxymoron? I'm trying hard, really hard, but I've yet to ->install any software as easily as on XP...oh, apart from Mozilla. -> -> How hard is it to type "urpmi "? That's the easy bit. Finding out that urpmi exists is the difficult bit for a newbie - it seems to be rarely mentioned in books or magazine articles on linux, which is a great shame as it is one of Mandrake's best features. I struggled with tarballs for months before I discovered how easy it was to use urpmi! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Monday 19 April 2004 02:54 am, Owain Sutton wrote: -> ->JoeHill wrote: ->> On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 00:05:22 +0100 ->> Owain Sutton disseminated the following: ->> -> ->Installing software is just as easy, if not easier, but ->> it took me a while to figure that out. -> -> ->Surely an oxymoron? I'm trying hard, really hard, but I've yet to ->install any software as easily as on XP...oh, apart from Mozilla. -> -> How hard is it to type "urpmi "? -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Sunday 18 April 2004 11:23 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote: ->No problem with discussing flaws, both Windows and Linux have plenty. ->This discussion started with respect to the winsux-winblows comments. ->Please explain how those constitute dispassionate discussion of the ->comparative strengths and weaknesses of the two platforms. Hmm...you wouldn't by any chance have been on this list before would ya? With a different name? Sounds amazingly like a certain Windoze developer/coder/worker from a few months ago -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Sunday 18 April 2004 07:05 pm, Owain Sutton wrote: ->I may be massively missing the point, or shifted into another dimesion ->or something, but isn't this the NEWBIE list? Where the hell do you ->think Linux newbies come from? I'm trying my hardest to like Linux, but ->I've found nothing so far that was not easier on XP SECURITY! -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Sunday 18 April 2004 06:17 pm, JoeHill wrote: ->On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:26:03 -0600 ->Steve Turner disseminated the following: -> ->> I use and see the advantage of Linux but it will never be a big player as it ->> is too difficult for a layman or typical computer user to use. -> ->Okay, is there some kind of rule that we have to have at least one FUD'ster / ->Wintroll on this list? -> Ya just gotta wonder, don't ya??? :-) -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 08:36, The Other wrote: 04/19/04 To the List Administrator, I got this message from the mailer-daemon, but I also got me email through to the list. (If the attachment didn't come through, my email was a reply on Linuxant drivers and Winmodems.) This is the second time this has happened to me. What must I do to fix this problem? I'm having the exact same problem. . . Rich -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[newbie] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
04/19/04
To the List Administrator,
I got this message from the mailer-daemon, but I also got me email
through to the list. (If the attachment didn't come through, my
email was a reply on Linuxant drivers and Winmodems.)
This is the second time this has happened to me.
What must I do to fix this problem?
Thanks,
The Other
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Re: [newbie] DANGER!
You know I even read trough it sometimes you best just remember you have to eat my cooking AND I have access to your pc On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 20:55, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > Warning all list members: the girlfriend has subscribed! > > stephen kuhn - owner > == > illawarra computer services > a kuhn media australia company > http://kma.0catch.com > -- > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents > -- > Hermes: "The poor demented honky." > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DANGER!
On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 18:45, frankieh wrote: > I thought we were doing enough ourselves to fsck them by removing their > habitat.. but yanks just can't wait for anything can they... :-) I'm not arguing mate. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- America!! I saw it all!! Vomiting! Waving! JERRY FALWELLING into your void tube of UHF oblivion!! SAFEWAY of the mind ... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DANGER!
On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 15:41, John Wilson wrote: > On April 18, 2004 07:32 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 12:16, Aron Smith wrote: > > > > So we'll just carry on slagging you then. :-) > > > > > > So should we tell her about you and the 'Roo ? > > > > Er, well, I told her about the wombat... > > > wombat? What happened to the platypus and the dingo? :) > > ttfn > > John (Ssh - don't mention the dingo - that was a LONG time ago) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Defeat is worse than death because you have to live with defeat. -- Bill Musselman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: {Spam?} [newbie] Seti
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 25 March 2004 05:57 am, Brian Parish wrote: > seti provide a cron script. Mine is: > > 0 * * * * cd ~/setiathome; ./setiathome -nice 19 > /dev/null 2> > /dev/null > > Work fine. > > cheers > Brian Brian, What does "0" mean? Also, can you explain the meaning of the whole syntax? TIA - -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux.arinet.org 18:52:11 up 6:45, Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAg72ykp5CsIXuxqURAhDMAKCxyGfY+hL3gcbBln+UIUgFFKK07ACcCixl PM8M84sn0xOqSd4t0aveP+o= =bB5d -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Floppy Access - 2nd Request
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 13:44, Richard Urwin wrote: Bring up a terminal su type the root password, get the # prompt kwrite finish what you want to do exit Thanks for the tip!
Re: [newbie] Floppy Access - 2nd Request
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 12:48, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > /dev/hdb1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 > none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 > /dev/hdb7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 > /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom auto > umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 > none /mnt/floppy supermount > dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 0 > /dev/hda5 /mnt/nt ntfs umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 > 0 > /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 > 0 > none /proc proc defaults 0 0 > /dev/hdb6 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 > /dev/hdb5 swap swap defaults 0 0 Try changing the "fs=ext2:vfat" bit to "fs=auto", reboot and then try again - see if that resolves the issue. Nope, that didn't do it. . . Rich -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [newbie] Changing Defaults in OOo??
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:47:21 +1000 Charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:42 am, many eyes viewed Langsley T > Russell's words:- > > I'm trying to change the default font and *font size* for text > > documents in OOo. I do not seem to be able to change the font > > size and save as the default. I would be willing to create a new > > style or template or whatever is necessary so long as when I > > open a new document it opens with my choice of font and font > > size. I've tried creating a custom style but it is only good for > > the open document. There's got to be some relatively easy/direct > > way of doing this, I just can't seem to find it. > > Assuming you are doing OO.01 > > You will have to create a template of exactly what you want, > everything is possible. > > But to just get a different font, though you won't have choice of > size, which will require changing every time a new document is > opened, do:- Click on Tools/Options/text Document/ Basic western > fonts. > > Change what you want here. > > For more functionality create a document template with both font, > and size and everything else you want or can dream > of.. > > Charlie. > -- > Registered Linux User:- 329524 > + > There is no odor so bad as that which arises from goodness > tainted. ...Henry David > Thoreau > This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail > v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 > > I sympathize with you. Been there. Wincentric mailing list is a bigger pain than the program. My office work-around was to prep a doc with just our letterhead, format text font, etc., save it. Now everyone starts with that doc, save as, and continue on in the new letter. That and oo's halfassed clipboard feature will keep me on kword personally. Also, saving the doc on the fileserver, then calling it from another machine causes format/font changes. I have to redo page breaks etc before printing after I edit my sec'y's work. At first I thought she was being sloppy, but it's definitely oo. Makes me nuts. Also never have been able to add words to the dictionary. Damn, I didn't realize how many probs I had with it until I started this reply. Changing my office is more of a pain than oo right now, but we're close. Bottom line is try kword if it's strong enough for your needs. At least it keeps you away from the Kmart shoppers. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Sunday 18 April 2004 06:17 pm, JoeHill wrote: > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:26:03 -0600 > > Steve Turner disseminated the following: > > I use and see the advantage of Linux but it will never be a big player as > > it is too difficult for a layman or typical computer user to use. > > Okay, is there some kind of rule that we have to have at least one FUD'ster > / Wintroll on this list? I heard that winFUDsters were like cats,,, if you feed them, they will come. and stay, and howl at the door to be let in,,, all the time... better to not feed them the first time -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DANGER!
On Monday 19 April 2004 01:45 am, frankieh wrote: > John Wilson wrote: > > On April 18, 2004 07:32 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > >>On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 12:16, Aron Smith wrote: > So we'll just carry on slagging you then. :-) > >>> > >>>So should we tell her about you and the 'Roo ? > >> > >>Er, well, I told her about the wombat... > > > > wombat? What happened to the platypus and the dingo? :) > > > > ttfn > > > > John > > Typical ex-yanks. shagging all our native wildlife... > > I thought we were doing enough ourselves to fsck them by removing their > habitat.. but yanks just can't wait for anything can they... :-) > > > rgds > > Franki > > PS.. disclaimer: This response has no political or religious motivation, > it in no way impunes yanks from fscking animals if it is their wish to > do so. No reponsibility can be attributed to the auther for any acts of > animal violation that may result either directly or indirectly from the > reading of this comment. whinging already? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DANGER!
John Wilson wrote: On April 18, 2004 07:32 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 12:16, Aron Smith wrote: So we'll just carry on slagging you then. :-) So should we tell her about you and the 'Roo ? Er, well, I told her about the wombat... wombat? What happened to the platypus and the dingo? :) ttfn John Typical ex-yanks. shagging all our native wildlife... I thought we were doing enough ourselves to fsck them by removing their habitat.. but yanks just can't wait for anything can they... :-) rgds Franki PS.. disclaimer: This response has no political or religious motivation, it in no way impunes yanks from fscking animals if it is their wish to do so. No reponsibility can be attributed to the auther for any acts of animal violation that may result either directly or indirectly from the reading of this comment. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] RPMS, RPMS2 & RPMS3
I've found a local mirror that's working and want to add the appropriate rpms directories using urpmi. What is the difference between the RPMS, RPMS2 & RPMS3 directories? Careless use of urpmi has already upgraded my installations to 10.1 Cooker, which is not what I wanted. So I am a little more cautious with uprmi now. As an aside, my 10.1 Cooker machines are very stable :-) SR Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard drive packed up? (Solved)
On Sunday 18 Apr 2004 2:16 pm, Keith Powell wrote: > My set-up here, is one computer with several hard drives each in its own > caddy. Each drive is used for a different purpose. > > A couple of days ago, one of them (a Maxtor 40GB) stopped working a couple > of days ago whilst I was using it,. So I rebooted. It started to boot, > then stopped with the error message: > > Partition Check: > hda: <4>hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status ==0x21 > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting > > the hard drive activity light was permanently on. > Stephen said that caddies sometimes go flakey, so: I put the "faulty" hard drive into a different caddy and a good hard drive into the caddy the "faulty" drive had been using. Everything now works, so it appeared to have been a caddy/drive connection problem. I will investigate this further. Also, I will put the drives back into their original caddies and see what happens. Thanks to all who have made suggestions. They are all noted for possible future use. Cheers Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
