Re: [newbie] What changed? mdk10 won't detect my soundcard (sb16)
On Thursday 03 June 2004 02:45, Dexter N Muir wrote: > Hi Frans > > Bash: aumix: command not found > > Module sb loads, and it looks like it does so twice... > System sounds work, so does the CD player - just can't control 'em... > > Any further clues? You have to install the aumix rpm package. What's the output of /sbin/lsmod? What's in /etc/modprobe.conf? What do you mean with "Module sb loads, and it looks like it does so twice..."? HTH, -Frans > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > mandrake.com] On Behalf Of Frans Ketelaars > > Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2004 5:25 a.m. > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [newbie] What changed? mdk10 won't detect my soundcard > > (sb16) > > > On Tuesday 01 June 2004 23:29, Dexter N Muir wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > > >Something's gone awry. Mandrake 10 (Community) install on and > > > older pII-500 (mobo has 2 ISA slots) won't detect the sb16 > > > (actually a Vibra16). In a console, su root and sndconfig, and > > > the test sound works, and a CD plays, but no device detected in > > > the MCC, and no Mixer. What gives? Any clues? A FAQ? > > > > > > Cheers > > > Dex > > > > Sndconfig is an old program to set up the OSS sound system. IIRC > > already > > > in Mandrake 9.1 Mandrake didn't set up sound for ISA cards during > > install (because things can go wrong). But you have sound working > > after > > > sndconfig set everything up? If aumix won't start from the menu you > > can > > > try starting it from a terminal to get error messages. > > > > HTH, > > > > -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] no more double click
On Thu, 2004-06-03 at 14:30, thujan wrote: > Hi, > How much longer others can double click? > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/02/1086058889577.html What a complete crock of shit. http://web.mit.edu/invent/www/ima/engelbart_bio.html How can Microsoft make a claim that is clearly no where near Microsoft's date of "conception". Only further proof that they're theives of the worst kind. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- I hate it when my foot falls asleep during the day cause that means it's going to be up all night. -- Steven Wright Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] no more double click
Hi, How much longer others can double click? http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/02/1086058889577.html -- best rgds thujan 07:28:48 up 44 min, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SiS 7012 onboard sound with MDK10ce and a Laptop
Marc,
I have a ECS k7s5a with onboard sis 7012.
Did not work till mdk10.0 with the 2.6 kernel.
Heres some of the relevant info in my /etc.modules.conf and
/etc/modprobe.conf files. I believe the modprobe.conf file is the
important one with the 2.6 kernel, here they are if it helps.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mike]# cat /etc/modprobe.conf
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0
install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install
snd-intel8x0 && { /sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss; /bin/true; }
remove snd-intel8x0 { /sbin/modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; } ;
/sbin/modprobe -r --first-time --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mike]# cat /etc/modules.conf
above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0
# ALSA portion
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0
# module options should go here
# OSS/Free portion
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0
There is a lot of howto's on the k7s5a board that might help guide
you on this, on your sound chip. Just do some searchs on www.google.com
Mike
Marc Hultquist wrote:
> Does anyone have any sudgestions as to how I should get my sound card
> working ? One thing I noticed is that when I upgraded from 9.2 to 10.0 it
> worked(didnt work in 9.2) but then I had or was forced to do a fresh install,
> and well I lost the config.
>
> I have now tried for a great deal of time to get it working, I tried all the
> reccomended drivers, alsa, etc and yet still nothing seems to work, when
> Linux installs it picks up my sound card fine, i know its picking up the
> correct module
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# lspci | grep audio
> 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Sound
> Controller (rev a0)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# lsmod
> snd 44036 0
> soundcore 6244 0 [snd]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#
>
> Any ideas ? I have tried to fiddle with the settings within xmms for example,
> but to no avail :\ Kinda just one of those things I wish would work but it
> just won't ! Its not the biggest thing to worry about, I just would like to
> have my sound working again :\
>
> Kind Regards
>
>
>
>
>
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[newbie] USB Key drive write protected
I have a 128mb pen drive that somehow has become write protected. It does not have a mechanical switch on it that I can find. It is an Advance Modules pen drive. Does anyone know how to reformat or or unlock a pen drive. Command line script was put up once early on when Mandrake Move first came out. I can not find it now. Hate to just throw it away $50+ at the time I bought it. Thanks for any leads, I have googled til I'm dizzy. -- Dennis M. Linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What changed? mdk10 won't detect my soundcard (sb16)
On Wednesday 02 June 2004 08:45 pm, Dexter N Muir wrote: > Hi Frans > > Bash: aumix: command not found > > Module sb loads, and it looks like it does so twice... > System sounds work, so does the CD player - just can't control 'em... > > Any further clues? Try alsamixergui and play around with some of the default options. I couldn't control my CMI card until I turned off 4 channel mode and then I could use the pcm slider to set volume again. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > mandrake.com] On Behalf Of Frans Ketelaars > > Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2004 5:25 a.m. > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [newbie] What changed? mdk10 won't detect my soundcard > > (sb16) > > > On Tuesday 01 June 2004 23:29, Dexter N Muir wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > > >Something's gone awry. Mandrake 10 (Community) install on and > > > older pII-500 (mobo has 2 ISA slots) won't detect the sb16 (actually > > > a Vibra16). In a console, su root and sndconfig, and the test sound > > > works, and a CD plays, but no device detected in the MCC, and no > > > Mixer. What gives? Any clues? A FAQ? > > > > > > Cheers > > > Dex > > > > Sndconfig is an old program to set up the OSS sound system. IIRC > > already > > > in Mandrake 9.1 Mandrake didn't set up sound for ISA cards during > > install (because things can go wrong). But you have sound working > > after > > > sndconfig set everything up? If aumix won't start from the menu you > > can > > > try starting it from a terminal to get error messages. > > > > HTH, > > > > -Frans > > > > > > > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 2/06/2004 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 2/06/2004 -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] boot floppys and mdk 10 on old machine
Asa Rossoff wrote: From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> As long as you can have both a CD-ROM and floppy drive at the same time, you can probably make it wook by downloading http://www.oldfiles.streamlinetrial.co.uk/powerload/bootdisk/oldbios.exe This will create a boot floppy that will then boot the CD-ROM. I have used it a couple of times to boot from CD on machines that do not support booting from CD. (I think this is the same one as I have - the bookmark is on a different machine.) If you do not have access to a Windows machine, let me know and I will make an image of the floppy that you can copy to a floppy using dd. Another alternative is Smart Boot Manager (http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/), which I use for this purpose without any problems. It has other features as well. Asa Thanks for all the help everyone. I used the oldbios.exe floppy to boot mandrake 8.2, which is installed and working fine. :) Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] dvd drive won't exit
On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 07:37, eric jackson wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "James Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:53 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] dvd drive won't exit > > > On Tuesday 01 Jun 2004 20:58, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > Just a guess - automount (or equivlent) has the CD or DVD mounted, and > > the drive locked. Try using the eject command and see if that works. > > If you have any programs that are accessing the drive, it will not work. > > If not, try right clicking the Desktop Icon, and selecting "Unmount". > > Red Hat was a beggar for doing that to me.. > > JRH > > When I tried that it gave me an error message saying that only root could > unmount the DVD. > > I didn't have this problem with my old DVD. Any ideas on how I can set up my > computer so I don't have to unmount it manually? > > Eric Jackson > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Close any instance of Konqueror, then you should be able to use the "eject" button. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- The holy passion of Friendship is of so sweet and steady and loyal and enduring a nature that it will last through a whole lifetime, if not asked to lend money. -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] What changed? mdk10 won't detect my soundcard (sb16)
Hi Frans Bash: aumix: command not found Module sb loads, and it looks like it does so twice... System sounds work, so does the CD player - just can't control 'em... Any further clues? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > mandrake.com] On Behalf Of Frans Ketelaars > Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2004 5:25 a.m. > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] What changed? mdk10 won't detect my soundcard (sb16) > > On Tuesday 01 June 2004 23:29, Dexter N Muir wrote: > > Hi all > > > >Something's gone awry. Mandrake 10 (Community) install on and > > older pII-500 (mobo has 2 ISA slots) won't detect the sb16 (actually > > a Vibra16). In a console, su root and sndconfig, and the test sound > > works, and a CD plays, but no device detected in the MCC, and no > > Mixer. What gives? Any clues? A FAQ? > > > > Cheers > > Dex > > Sndconfig is an old program to set up the OSS sound system. IIRC already > in Mandrake 9.1 Mandrake didn't set up sound for ISA cards during > install (because things can go wrong). But you have sound working after > sndconfig set everything up? If aumix won't start from the menu you can > try starting it from a terminal to get error messages. > > HTH, > > -Frans > > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 2/06/2004 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 2/06/2004 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange boot options
On Wednesday 02 Jun 2004 22:37, brian wrote: snip > So most of those I understand, but anyone know what the numeric > entries represent? > > Second question - 9.1 ran just fine on this PC (600 MHz PIII, 512 MB > of memory) but once I'd installed 10.0 I noticed a lot of disk > thrashing going on. I ran up KDE system guard (I"m using the version > of KDE which came with 10.0, and that's the only desktop I've > installed) to find that I'd only got a couple of megs of memory free, > which explains the thrashing, Linux uses all unused memory as a disc cache. It is perfectly normal for memory usage to be 100% After all unused memory is 'wasted' memory. > but what puzzles me is some of the > entries in the task list. I seem to have multiple copies of a whole > bunch of things running. > > As far as servers that I've installed are concerned, I have MySQL, > ProFTP and Apache (that I'm aware of). I've also got Kylix on the PC, > but that doesn't have anything sitting in the background until you > actually run it. Anyway, what puzzles me is that I've got six copies > of httpd2, one with a login of root and five with a login of apache, Perfectly normal. That is how more than 1 person at a time can hit your web site. > six copies of mingetty, Hit Ctl+Atl+F1 through to F6 and you will see text consoles. These are the instances of mingetty. You could run fewer, but it would save virtually no resources. Any idle process eventually gets swapped out to swap and consumes insignificant resource. > five of saslauthd, Perfectly normal assuming you are actually using SASL (Possibly for email authentication) > and a couple of other > programs which show two or three instances. Can anyone tell me > whether the footprint of 10.0 with KDE really is this large, or has > something gone wrong with the update process? No its all normal. Do not worry about it. If there are services you have installed but do not use, then by all means turn them off or uninstall them. The only service I would recommend disabling is tmdns (Tiny DNS server) which is more trouble than it is worth and screws up lots of peoples net connection. > > As above, don't underestimate my ignorance of Linux. I used to write > Fortran programs under some variant of Unix 25 years ago, and that's > about the extent of my knowledge of Unix/Linux systems. Since then > all my PC work has been with Billy G's offerings. At the moment, I > know about enough of Mandrake to navigate round the file system and > to fire up Kylix. Just enough knowledge to be dangerous ;-) Someone on this list used to have a good signature :- If your Linux system is not broken, you are not trying hard enough! Have fun derek BTW Brian. Please remove the "Reply To" in your email settings. See the etiquette page on the Twiki for why. > > Thanks, > > Brian. -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange boot options
brian wrote: I upgraded my Mandrake 9.1 system to 10.0 via a net install, and I'm puzzled by some of the "after effects". I'm only just starting to play around with Linux, so don't underestimate my ignorance First question. I use GRUB as a boot manager, and this box only runs Linux. After the update, I find the following in the GRBU boot menu linux linux_nonfb floppy old_linux old_linux_nonfb 263-7 2421-013 failsafe So most of those I understand, but anyone know what the numeric entries represent? The numeric entries are different kernels. In Mandrake 10, you have a choice of using either a series 2.4 or a series 2.6 kernel - some applications and services run best on 2.4 and some on 2.6 kernels. You seem to have at least one of each series installed. Boot to "linux", then open a terminal and command uname -r to check which kernel you are actually running. If everything you actually need to run works OK on that kernel, you can safely uninstall the other one(s). I use Lilo, so someone else will have to help you with Grub configuration once you've sorted out which kernel(s) you actually need. PS please remove the reply-to setting from your mail, so the replies go to the list and not just to you. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange boot options
On Thursday 03 June 2004 00:11, brian wrote: > On Wednesday 02 June 2004 17:49, you wrote: > > As for the rest of your question, others may step in. To me it > > seems that you are "not so new" ;-) > > Thanks Kaj - I'm new to Linux, not to programming. It didn't > occur to me that I'd still have the option to boot old versions > of the kernel after an upgrade. Well Brian, an "upgrade" will preserve your settings, not destroy anything. The downside is, that - as you experienced - things tend to behave oddly. Most people don't "upgrade", they "install". But as opposed to some other operating systems, a linux "install" is everything from a complete wipe of your system to just "upgrading" your applications to the latest and greatest - kernel included. If you just want to "upgrade" from - say - 9.2 to 10.0 I would recommend : When asked "upgrade" or "install", choose "install". Then, when asked about formatting partitions, leave your /home as is, but format all other partitions (exept possibly backup partitions). That way you'll get a fresh system, but with your settings and other private stuff preserved. A few - minor - tweaks may be needed due to newer applications, but nothing serious. > While I'm OK when using Kylix and > SQL, I'm still thinking how I'd do something in Windows and then > trying to find a parallel when it comes to the user interface. I > posted on the newbie list because I looked at the Discuss list > and couldn't understand most of what I read, questions or > answers! > > Brian. On this list you'll meet the most friendly (and witty) people in the universe. Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * http://www.haulrich.net * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange boot options
From: "brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > First question. I use GRUB as a boot manager, and this box only runs > Linux. After the update, I find the following in the GRBU boot menu > > linux > linux_nonfb > floppy > old_linux > old_linux_nonfb > 263-7 > 2421-013 > failsafe > > So most of those I understand, but anyone know what the numeric > entries represent? I am a new user, but I would guess that 263-7 would boot vmlinuz-2.6.3-7mdk (version 2.6.3) linux is probably just a symlink in /boot: vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.6.3-7mdk 2421-013 is probably your old linux vmlinuz-2.4.21-013mdk I don't know where the GRUB config files are /boot/grub or /etc/grub but looking at it should clear up the relationships even if you don't understand all the grub configuration. > which explains the thrashing, but what puzzles me is some of the > entries in the task list. I seem to have multiple copies of a whole > bunch of things running. You might try using the Mandrake Control Center to stop duplicate services. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Strange boot options
I upgraded my Mandrake 9.1 system to 10.0 via a net install, and I'm puzzled by some of the "after effects". I'm only just starting to play around with Linux, so don't underestimate my ignorance First question. I use GRUB as a boot manager, and this box only runs Linux. After the update, I find the following in the GRBU boot menu linux linux_nonfb floppy old_linux old_linux_nonfb 263-7 2421-013 failsafe So most of those I understand, but anyone know what the numeric entries represent? Second question - 9.1 ran just fine on this PC (600 MHz PIII, 512 MB of memory) but once I'd installed 10.0 I noticed a lot of disk thrashing going on. I ran up KDE system guard (I"m using the version of KDE which came with 10.0, and that's the only desktop I've installed) to find that I'd only got a couple of megs of memory free, which explains the thrashing, but what puzzles me is some of the entries in the task list. I seem to have multiple copies of a whole bunch of things running. As far as servers that I've installed are concerned, I have MySQL, ProFTP and Apache (that I'm aware of). I've also got Kylix on the PC, but that doesn't have anything sitting in the background until you actually run it. Anyway, what puzzles me is that I've got six copies of httpd2, one with a login of root and five with a login of apache, six copies of mingetty, five of saslauthd, and a couple of other programs which show two or three instances. Can anyone tell me whether the footprint of 10.0 with KDE really is this large, or has something gone wrong with the update process? As above, don't underestimate my ignorance of Linux. I used to write Fortran programs under some variant of Unix 25 years ago, and that's about the extent of my knowledge of Unix/Linux systems. Since then all my PC work has been with Billy G's offerings. At the moment, I know about enough of Mandrake to navigate round the file system and to fire up Kylix. Thanks, Brian. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Setting up two sound cards in Mandrake
Is it possible? I'd like to send all system sounds to the onboard codec, and then my music signal to a higher quality add-on board. Is there anybody out there doing it? What are the pitfalls? -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On June 2, 2004 11:03, Lee Wiggers wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 07:45:25 -0700 > > Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I can just delete the lot without going to oo hell? > > > > Aren't you there already? :) > > Good thought. It's still better than a hot stick in the eye. > > Lee or a spoon? http://www.workorspoon.com/default.asp -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 03:56:50 + Lee Wiggers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else > started on it. Hoisted on my own somethingorother. > > OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2 > > Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc. I > can't change it in the "options" menu, although I can change to > .sxw at the time of a save. > > I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of > "options"just to change something and the change worked. > > Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though. > > Any ideas? (Going to the oo list is not an option. It's up to > you.) > > I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough. Am I > to be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? > > Lee > > Robin's "Delete 'em all and let God sort it out" approach struck me as appropriate. Try that in Windows, Bill. Thanks all for the response. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 07:45:25 -0700 Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can just delete the lot without going to oo hell? > > Aren't you there already? :) > > Good thought. It's still better than a hot stick in the eye. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] AMD64 and K8V Bios Issues - help!
On June 2, 2004 03:45, Rory Gleeson wrote: > Hi, > > I've been using MDK 10.0 on my old Celeron. I just bought a new computer > with the following specs: > > AMD64 Athlon 3000 > K8V SE Deluxe > ATI Radeon 9200 SE > 512 DDR RAM > > I can't get MDK10 to do a full install. I've used these discs before > without issue. It starts to install correctly. However, after > partitioning (I've tried this on two HDs with the same result), it starts > to install the files. During this copying period, each time it stalls, the > CD stops having files retrieved and the HD stops working. It stops at a > different place each time. > > I've tweaked the K8V Deluxe motherboard without success. I turned off USB > Legacy Support (which caused me an initial hang right at the beginning the > install process before the graphical install started). I also turned off > ACPI and APM as an experiment. > > If anyone has any suggestions at all, I'd really appreciate it. I think > this is a small problem that I just can't identify. This purchase was my > final step in dumping XP for good, but I'm a bit glum right now. By the > way, XP Pro installed fine on the box without issue after my initial MDK > failures. So, once I got XP running, I then erased all the partitions, > knowing an OS could load, and went back to fiddling with MDK. SuSE 9.1 > Live and MandrakeMove (without LAN support) installed without issue, too. > > Thanks, > ~Rory I could be wrong, but isn't there a different version of Mdk 10 for AMD64? I seem to recall seeing release candidate announcements for it (it's a little behind the x86 version). -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SiS 7012 onboard sound with MDK10ce and a Laptop
On Wednesday 02 June 2004 07:50, Marc Hultquist wrote: > Does anyone have any sudgestions as to how I should get my sound card > working ? One thing I noticed is that when I upgraded from 9.2 to > 10.0 it worked(didnt work in 9.2) but then I had or was forced to do > a fresh install, and well I lost the config. > > I have now tried for a great deal of time to get it working, I tried > all the reccomended drivers, alsa, etc and yet still nothing seems to > work, when Linux installs it picks up my sound card fine, i know its > picking up the correct module > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# lspci | grep audio > 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] > Sound Controller (rev a0) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# lsmod > snd 44036 0 > soundcore 6244 0 [snd] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# There is no ALSA driver for your card listed. Snd is a general ALSA module but you must also have a module like snd- specific for your card. You can find the name of the necessary module at http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ (seems to be down now). > Any ideas ? I have tried to fiddle with the settings within xmms for > example, but to no avail :\ Kinda just one of those things I wish > would work but it just won't ! Its not the biggest thing to worry > about, I just would like to have my sound working again :\ > > Kind Regards Please see http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette : Keep the Reply-To setting empty Please keep you Reply-To field empty when emailing any email list. Somewhere in your mailer's settings there is probably the option to fill in the Reply-To field. If it is filled in, then whenever a fellow listmember replies to your post, the message will go to you directly instead of to the list. For information on the problems this causes www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/reply-to HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On June 1, 2004 21:56, Lee Wiggers wrote: > I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else started > on it. Hoisted on my own somethingorother. > > OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2 > > Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc. I > can't change it in the "options" menu, although I can change to .sxw > at the time of a save. > > I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of > "options"just to change something and the change worked. > > Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though. > > Any ideas? (Going to the oo list is not an option. It's up to > you.) > > I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough. Am I to > be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? > > Lee Just a thought... I've had problems with other gui apps (not oo) where the gui config seemed to get out of sync with/confused about the config files. The gui config said one thing, but the behaviour was something else. When this happened, often just changing the setting to something else, applying the change, then changing it back and applying again would fix the problem. Wouldn't hurt to try. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What changed? mdk10 won't detect my soundcard (sb16)
On Tuesday 01 June 2004 23:29, Dexter N Muir wrote: > Hi all > >Something's gone awry. Mandrake 10 (Community) install on and > older pII-500 (mobo has 2 ISA slots) won't detect the sb16 (actually > a Vibra16). In a console, su root and sndconfig, and the test sound > works, and a CD plays, but no device detected in the MCC, and no > Mixer. What gives? Any clues? A FAQ? > > Cheers > Dex Sndconfig is an old program to set up the OSS sound system. IIRC already in Mandrake 9.1 Mandrake didn't set up sound for ISA cards during install (because things can go wrong). But you have sound working after sndconfig set everything up? If aumix won't start from the menu you can try starting it from a terminal to get error messages. HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] getting new programs in the menu
Hallo thinker, I have problem installing progam via rpmdrake. How did you install your new programs in version 10.0? regards, Gregory - Original Message - From: Thinker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2004 8:52 am Subject: [newbie] getting new programs in the menu > Hello All, > > I have been installing new programs on and updating my 10.0 > official > box for about a week now. I am noticing that none of the programs > that > I am adding are showing up in the program menu. Now that I think > about > it, a lot of the programs I selected during installation aren't > showing > up there as well. Is there a command I can run to update the > program > menu to include every program that is available to me? > > Thanks, > > .:Thinker > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] mandrake community 10.0 updates
hi while updating my mdk community there are 3 files that cant be selected drakconf drakfirsttime drakwizard they all need some perl stuff ... anyone know where i can get the perl stuff so i can get the updates as they dont seem to be adding it to the updates list of files? LtcdData Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] missing httpd
On Wednesday 02 Jun 2004 15:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am trying to start http server on Mmandrake 10. > > I run /etc/init.d/httpd and nothing happens. > > I did a "set -x" in the script and this fails > > if [ -x $SBIN/$HTTPD -a ! -e $HTTPDPID ]; then > > I see that $SBIN/$HTTPD == /usr/sbin/httpd . > > On my freshly installed system "/usr/sbin/httpd" does not exist. > > what to do? If you have installed Apache2 then you will have /usr/sbin/httpd2 The start script will detect if Apache2 is installed and will find it for you. There is a bug with Apache2 on the Official CDs that affects certain processor types. It casues Apache to fail silently when it is started. There is an update for libapr0 on the update mirrors which fixes it. If you have not done so already run Mandrake Update. Alternatively install Apache1.3 which does not have the issue. (Uninstall Apache2 so there is no confusion as to which one will run) derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] getting new programs in the menu
On Wednesday 02 Jun 2004 14:30, Thinker wrote: > OK.. got that. > > Now, how do I find a list of all the available programs on my machine > and the commands that execute them? > > On Jun 2, 2004, at 8:59 AM, PM wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 15:52, Thinker wrote: > >> Hello All, > >> > >> I have been installing new programs on and updating my 10.0 official > >> box for about a week now. I am noticing that none of the programs that > >> I am adding are showing up in the program menu. Now that I think about > >> it, a lot of the programs I selected during installation aren't > >> showing > >> up there as well. Is there a command I can run to update the program > >> menu to include every program that is available to me? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> .:Thinker > > > > menudrake > > > > Either from a terminal (as user), or (if you're using KDE) right-click > > on the star menu icon (usually bottom left). > > > > -- > > Paul M. > > _ Run menudrake as your user and in the menu style setting select "Use System Administrator Settings" You should then get menu items automatically when you install apps. If still no good then in a terminal run update-menus -v both as a user and as root. There are some packages which will screw up menu generation because of errors in the packaging. If your menus still do not appear properly look at the error messages from update-menus. (For example in 9.2 fluxbox would screw up the menus) derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Debian's Apt-Get or Redhat's RPM ???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David A. Ferguson wrote: - Original Message - From: "The Other" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Given Tom's comment that removing old kernels is better done with a package manager, I thought I'd ask for opinions on the best package manager, and then I'll build in that package manager. I am new to Linux and mdk but it appears that MDK uses RPM for manual installation and URPMI for automated package updates. apt-get appears to be use by Debian. I have never use apt but the rpm/urpmi has work very well for me. David urpmi can also be used for manual installation. It is just a wrapper for RPM. #urpmi package_name.rpm - -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --- Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ 11:25:00 up 9 days, 9:30, 1 user, load average: 0.62, 0.95, 1.03 - --- "Press on: nothing in the world can take the place of perseverance. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent." -Calvin Coolidge -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAvfJ0Dpzwx2t8E5gRAr3pAJ4j24Vqi2YZLPNR2jOXSPbH9ctiGwCfQdtA VgZGtxIflmghZkHm1u3YcOI= =bfp7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] getting new programs in the menu
On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 16:30, Thinker wrote: > OK.. got that. > > Now, how do I find a list of all the available programs on my machine > and the commands that execute them? > > > > > > On Jun 2, 2004, at 8:59 AM, PM wrote: > > > On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 15:52, Thinker wrote: > >> Hello All, > >> > >> I have been installing new programs on and updating my 10.0 official > >> box for about a week now. I am noticing that none of the programs that > >> I am adding are showing up in the program menu. Now that I think about > >> it, a lot of the programs I selected during installation aren't > >> showing > >> up there as well. Is there a command I can run to update the program > >> menu to include every program that is available to me? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> .:Thinker > > > > menudrake > > > > Either from a terminal (as user), or (if you're using KDE) right-click > > on the star menu icon (usually bottom left). > > > > -- > > Paul M. > > _ > > In the beginning, man created god. > > Usually it will find the applications - when menudrake has started up just save it. If there are programs that you've added that it doesn't find just click on the 'add application' in menudrake & work through it. BTW, top-posting tends to confuse things & upset people. -- Paul M. _ In the beginning, man created god. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] missing httpd
I know this is a bad solution to your problem, but at the end its the only way I could get around the exact same issue you are having, I basically uninstalled apache + php using mdk's package manager, I then downloaded apache 1.3.31 and php 5.0.0RC2, downloaded, compiled from source and well yes it worked, I then had to simply create a symlink lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root26 May 25 12:09 apache-> /conf/apache/bin/apachectl And away I went, it all works perfectly, and well since then I have not had a single issue! So ya, this was all done on my MDK 10.0 CE machine, which is a laptop, and well it all worked perfectly. Anyway, time to go home, oh the symlink, it will be in /etc/init.d/ -- Marc Hultquist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Computerkit Systems (Pty) Ltd http://www.cks.co.za (P) +27 11 695 5317 (F) +27 11 312 1408 (C) +27 82 563 2861 Confidentiality Notice: The above message and all attachments may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from your computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the view of the entity transmitting the message. Computerkit Retail Systems (Pty) Ltd hereby distances itself from and accepts no liability in respect of the unauthorised use of its e-mail facility or the sending of e-mail communications for other than strictly business purposes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Big prob: partition table mess
> Hi Paul, > There is a utility called TestDisk that can analyze and repear disk > partitions tables: > http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html Okay, I ran testdisk, and it told me that everything is all fine and wonderful. Only thing it told me was that the MDK rescue CD did not have the regular partition table marker. I then let it write a new MBR and rebooted... to see some DELL utility that allows me to install win- don't mention it. Rebooted with the CD, rewrote LILO and rebooted. And the problem persists... Next thing I will try (but not today) is remove the last partition on the disk and reboot. I'll see what gives then. I'll keep you posted! Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Debian's Apt-Get or Redhat's RPM ???
- Original Message - From: "The Other" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Given Tom's comment that removing old kernels is better done with a > package manager, I thought I'd ask for opinions on the best package > manager, and then I'll build in that package manager. I am new to Linux and mdk but it appears that MDK uses RPM for manual installation and URPMI for automated package updates. apt-get appears to be use by Debian. I have never use apt but the rpm/urpmi has work very well for me. David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] AMD64 and K8V Bios Issues - help!
From: "Rory Gleeson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I can't get MDK10 to do a full install. I've used these discs before > without issue. It starts to install correctly. However, after > partitioning (I've tried this on two HDs with the same result), it starts > to install the files. During this copying period, each time it stalls, the > CD stops having files retrieved and the HD stops working. It stops at a > different place each time. I am very new to Mdk so these ideas might not be useful. Are you sure the CD's are good? I have burned CD's that didn't mention errors during the burn but when I compared the ISO to the CD there were files that didn't match. Can you see any error logs? Some times you can see error logs if you press Ctrl+Alt+F3 (or Ctrl+Alt+F4 I can't remember which). On my system I have to use the Ctrl+Alt on the left side of the keyboard. The Ctrl+Alt on the right side have no effect. These keys switch to a text mode console that shows error messages. To get back to the graphic I use Ctrl+Alt+F7 (or F6). Have you tried installing in text mode or expert mode? There might be some more diagnostic information. Are you partitions Ok? Maybe WinXP setup a partition that MDK doesn't understand. Since you have removed all the software from the disk anyway, why not try deleting all the partitions, during setup, and the repartitioning with the defaults. Have you googled for the problem? Try listing your computer name and a Mandrake 10. Stick with it mdk10 is very nice. It is much, much, much better than the last version I looked at. David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 11:39:15 +0300 robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The answer is probably hidden somewhere in ~/.openoffice. Rather > than spending hours hunting through the config files, though, it's > proabbly easier to back up anything in there you need (macros, > templates, autotext etc.) and delete the whole lot, so you when > you next run OO, it will give you a brand new configuration > directory with the standard settings. > > Sir Robin I looked in .openoffice before I yelled for help. Many files with many extensions. I can just delete the lot without going to oo hell? Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] how to get rpmdrake to work
Tanks derek for your help. regards, gregory - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2004 5:01 am Subject: Re: [newbie] how to get rpmdrake to work > On Tuesday 01 Jun 2004 23:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hallo, > > I have problems with downloading rpm with rpmdrake. I have read > the manual, > > copy paste the location of the ftp server from mandrake, put > username and > > password and still no results. Can you guys help me out I like > to download > > freevo and thight vnc. > > > > Thanks, > > regards, > > gregory > > > I do not know what you have been doing, but a username/password is > only > required for the commercial folder of MandrakeClub. Both the > packages you > mention are on public mirrors. > > If you go here http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php and follow the > instructions it will tell you the command to copy/paste into a > root terminal > to add online sources for 'main', 'contrib', 'plf' and 'update' > sources. > Be sure to select the Mandrake version you are running. > Tight vnc is on your CDs and you should be able to install it > without adding > any source. Freevo is in the contrib source. > > derek > > BTW: In case you do not know copy/paste in Linux is > highlight/press mouse > wheel > > -- > www.jennings.homelinux.net > http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] dvd drive won't exit
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 06:17 am, eric jackson wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Kaj Haulrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 3:59 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] dvd drive won't exit > > > On Tuesday 01 June 2004 21:35, eric jackson wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Yesterday I bought and installed a Sony DVD burner. I haven't > > > tried burning anything yet but I did run into a problem. After > > > I've accessed a CD or DVD I can't get it to eject. When I push > > > the eject button, nothing happens. > > > > > > Any idea what is causing this problem? > > > > > > Eric Jackson > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Probably you will have to unmount it first. > > > > In a terminal,cd /etc/mnt, su to root, type "umount cdrom" or > > whatever it is named in your /etc/fstab. > > > > HTH > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Thanks. I'll try that. > > Eric I discovered, by running top, that it is fam holding onto the device, as CDROM in my experience, and when I kill that the CD is permitted to eject. HTH Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- At a given moment I open my eyes and exist. And before that, during all eternity, what was there? Nothing. .Ugo Betti ___ This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Experience what others using Mandrake Linux have experienced at:- http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10 and apache2
On Wednesday 02 Jun 2004 10:04, Klemens Arro wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to install apache on my router. When I compiled a new apache
> from source, it worked perfectly. But I want to use Mandrake rpm's (next
> time is easier to update). When I install apache rpm's and try to run it
> ("httpd2 -k start"), it said nothing, but I found this from error_log:
>
> [crit] (38)Function not implemented: mod_rewrite: could not create
> rewrite_log_lock
> Configuration Failed
>
> And yes I have installed apache2-modules rpm.
> (Router has Mandrake 10 running :P )
>
> Anyone?
There is a bug in libapr0 that causes this error with certain processors.
Via C3 and K6-II in particular seem to be affected.
There is an update available on the update mirrors. It worked for me.
Hopefully it will work for you too.
derek
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[newbie] Mandrake 10 and apache2
Hi,
I am trying to install apache on my router. When I compiled a new apache from
source, it worked perfectly. But I want to use Mandrake rpm's (next time is
easier to update). When I install apache rpm's and try to run it ("httpd2 -k
start"), it said nothing, but I found this from error_log:
[crit] (38)Function not implemented: mod_rewrite: could not create
rewrite_log_lock
Configuration Failed
And yes I have installed apache2-modules rpm.
(Router has Mandrake 10 running :P )
Anyone?
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Re: [newbie] how to get rpmdrake to work
On Tuesday 01 Jun 2004 23:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hallo, > I have problems with downloading rpm with rpmdrake. I have read the manual, > copy paste the location of the ftp server from mandrake, put username and > password and still no results. Can you guys help me out I like to download > freevo and thight vnc. > > Thanks, > regards, > gregory I do not know what you have been doing, but a username/password is only required for the commercial folder of MandrakeClub. Both the packages you mention are on public mirrors. If you go here http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php and follow the instructions it will tell you the command to copy/paste into a root terminal to add online sources for 'main', 'contrib', 'plf' and 'update' sources. Be sure to select the Mandrake version you are running. Tight vnc is on your CDs and you should be able to install it without adding any source. Freevo is in the contrib source. derek BTW: In case you do not know copy/paste in Linux is highlight/press mouse wheel -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
Lee Wiggers wrote: I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else started on it. Hoisted on my own somethingorother. OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2 Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc. I can't change it in the "options" menu, although I can change to .sxw at the time of a save. I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of "options"just to change something and the change worked. Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though. Any ideas? (Going to the oo list is not an option. It's up to you.) I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough. Am I to be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? The answer is probably hidden somewhere in ~/.openoffice. Rather than spending hours hunting through the config files, though, it's proabbly easier to back up anything in there you need (macros, templates, autotext etc.) and delete the whole lot, so you when you next run OO, it will give you a brand new configuration directory with the standard settings. Sir Robin -- "I'm very into Britney Spears' early work, before she sold out, so mostly her, um, finger painting and macaroni art." Dawn - BtVS Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else started on it. Hoisted on my own somethingorother. OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2 Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc. I can't change it in the "options" menu, although I can change to .sxw at the time of a save. I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of "options"just to change something and the change worked. Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though. Any ideas? (Going to the oo list is not an option. It's up to you.) I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough. Am I to be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
