Re: [newbie] Sound
On Thursday 10 June 2004 08:18 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote: | > Teilhard Knight wrote: | > | > | | | Indeed. Although most of the things you say are new to me, I can appreciate | command-line Linux is a much more powerful OS than DOS ever was. To be | honest, I feel impatient for seeing the end of the Micro$soft empire and | its blue-screen world. Maybe that's why I would like to see in Linux only | improvements over $ill Gates toys and a friendly environment. However, the | more I learn about Linux, the less I picture it like an OS for a secretary, | for example. I agree with someone who said that $ill Gates has a stronghold | in his Control Panel. But that doesn't mean I cannot appreciate the | advantages of Linux over Windows, and the speed it is evolving. | | Cordially, | | Teilhard | | - Once you get it setup (and quite often--depending on hardware--it is setup right on install) anyone can use it, and use it well. My wife's computer was converted to Linux a couple of years ago and she has no trouble with it whatsover, across a couple of upgrades from 8.2 to 9.1, which she is using now. As she told a friend a few months ago, "Linux is easy to use--it must be if I can do it". As for myself, I was a network administrator back in the NT 4 days--what Linux has now is far simpler than NT was then. I can't say about W2K or XP administration, but I think just keeping up with the updates for security vulnerabilities appears to be far more trouble than I want to go to. Contrary to appearances, the famous Windows ease-of-use is really a facade because the administration of the system is a nightmare. I learned back in my day that I couldn't just install a security fix because there was a chance, a very good chance, that the fix would break some essential application. From what I see on the newsgroups, it doesn't appear that this Windows feature has changed much over the years. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: multipart? was Re: [newbie] ** Welcome to Newbie **
On Thursday 10 June 2004 07:35 pm, Eric Huff wrote: | On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:31:25 -0700 | | Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format... | > > | > > =_1086900076-13954-3211-- | > | > Anybody know why this came through as multi-part mime ? | | Actually, i guess it's still the footer causing it. But for some | reason on sylpheed claws, this post comes out much uglier than | others in that it just burps up all the multiparts headers (as seen | above, meaining that is what was visible when i opened the mail) | | Does it look that way for the rest of you, or does it look like a | normal post where the message footor just shows up at the bottom? | | Thanks, | eric With Kmail it looks just like any other post, with a message footer box at the bottom. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BATCH FILE
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:57:20 +0200 Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 10 June 2004 21:13, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > On Thursday 10 June 2004 10:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > is it possible to create (save ) automatic files ( like batch > > > files in Windows) in Linux ? How ? > > > > > > I want to use this not to do always the same things in console. > > > > yes, you can put the commands you want automated in a text file. > > If there's a sequence of commands give each command it's own > > line. > > > > Run the file thus: "source name_of_file.txt" without the > > quotes and they'll get run. > > > > Good luck, > > HarM > > Just to show off as a wise guy : > > I don't think you can "run" a text file just like that. But you can > create a small script, as follows : Oh yes you can, at least under tcsh at the console. And the text file does not need executable permissions. Not to be recommended as a general method though. HarM's advice is sound. > In a text editor, type : > > #! /bin/bash > first command here > second command here > third command here > . > . > last command here > exit > > As a very useful example : > > #! /bin/bash > rpm --rebuilddb > updatedb > urpmi.update -a > ldconfig -v > update-menus -v > exit > > > When finished entering commands, save the file with some descriptive > name, like - as in the above example - "updateall". Then, go back > to the command prompt, and make this file executable. In the above > example the commands need to be run as root, so in order to make it > executable by root, first become root and then : > > chmod 777 updateall > > which will give unlimited access to the file (which doesn't matter > here). > > Now, you can run the file. If it is not in your path, just cd to the > directory containing the file and type : > > ./updateall > > That's all. > > HTH > > Kaj Haulrich. > -- > * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * >* http://www.haulrich.net * > * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * > > -- Len Lawrence -- The two things that can get you into trouble quicker than anything else are fast women and slow horses. -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sound
> On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:33:38 -0400 > Teilhard Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...} > |> But perhaps there are > |>ways I do not know about to check which|installed programs there > |>are, huh?| > |>Cordially, > |> > |>Teilhard > [...] > > Hi Teilhard, > I started using linux over 9 months ago and someone suggested > this..<< Greg Meyer maybe ? IIRC >> any way .. > > you can go to Mandrake Control Center [mcc] --> then to > Software management --> Remove > and .. with no intention of removing any packages 8) > .. just click on any of the installed programs for their information > .. make sure"maximum information" is checked, so you can take a look > at the list of"files" that are installed from a package. > > :: or the longer way :: > in a terminal you can type: > > $ rpm -qa | sort > ~/rpmlist-`date +%d%m%y_%I%M`.txt > > will create a file like this with the current date at the current > time: > > rpmlist-100604_0904.txt > > which is a sorted list of all rpm packages installed that you can > read in any text editor 8) and save for later. > > and for any package name you can get the information of by typing: > > $ rpm -qi "packagename" > > or > > for the list of files a package will install: > > $ rpm -ql "packagename" > > also .. > $ man rpm in a terminal > or in konqueror > type man:rpm for more info > > check out www.urpmi.org for info on urpmi > > HTH > RickS What you tell me is great. I started thinking in Linux as a black box. I hope in 9 months from now, I'll be able to get familiar with the OS like you. I do not have much time to spend learning it, so, I wouldn't be so sure. Thanks so much for your feedback. Teilhard - This mail sent through CWMail: http://www.crosswinds.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sound
> Teilhard Knight wrote: > > > > > > Thanks a lot. I think I know now how the Linux world works. It is such a > > surprise for me to realise I have to know by memory about hundreds of programs > > in order to make them work. For someone from the Windows world it is kind of > > disappointing. But perhaps there are ways I do not know about to check which > > installed programs there are, huh? > > > > Cordially, > > > > Teilhard > > > For most of the GUI tools, you can pick them from the menus. (Not all > programs are in the menu's yet, but it is getting better.) > > For command line tools, it is sort of like dropping to the DOS prompt, > except that you have tools to help you that you don't have in DOS. > Things like typing part of a command, directory name, or file name, > hitting Tab, and haveing the system complete it, or offer you options on > completing it. You can also scroll through the command you have entered > using the up and down arrows. You can edit the commands you bring up > this way, and run them again. (A great help when you type like I do!) > > With most commands, you can get help by putting "--help" or "-h" after > the command. You can also type "man " to get help with > the commands. There is indeed a lot to learn if you want to take full > advantage of the power of Linux, but you usualy don't need the command > line tools to get things done. (I like them, and sometimes have to > check on what the GUI tool is...) > > Mikkel Indeed. Although most of the things you say are new to me, I can appreciate command-line Linux is a much more powerful OS than DOS ever was. To be honest, I feel impatient for seeing the end of the Micro$soft empire and its blue-screen world. Maybe that's why I would like to see in Linux only improvements over $ill Gates toys and a friendly environment. However, the more I learn about Linux, the less I picture it like an OS for a secretary, for example. I agree with someone who said that $ill Gates has a stronghold in his Control Panel. But that doesn't mean I cannot appreciate the advantages of Linux over Windows, and the speed it is evolving. Cordially, Teilhard - This mail sent through CWMail: http://www.crosswinds.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: multipart? was Re: [newbie] ** Welcome to Newbie **
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:31:25 -0700 Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format... > > > > =_1086900076-13954-3211-- > > > Anybody know why this came through as multi-part mime ? Actually, i guess it's still the footer causing it. But for some reason on sylpheed claws, this post comes out much uglier than others in that it just burps up all the multiparts headers (as seen above, meaining that is what was visible when i opened the mail) Does it look that way for the rest of you, or does it look like a normal post where the message footor just shows up at the bottom? Thanks, eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Cinelerra
Can anyone get Cinelerra to run? I'm running Mandrake 10. Everytime I try to run Cinelerra I get Cinelerra 1.1.8 Fri Dec 26 06:06:47 EST 2003 (C)2003 Heroine Virtual Ltd. Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra. Aborted I get no error messages, nothing but "Aborted". Any suggestions? Thanks, Linus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
multipart? was Re: [newbie] ** Welcome to Newbie **
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format... > > =_1086900076-13954-3211-- Anybody know why this came through as multi-part mime ? I installed 10.0 this weekend and just got postfix setup correctly to get thru mandrake's server. Here is the command i used, which is what i have always used: mhmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -subject "** Welcome to Newbie **" -from [EMAIL PROTECTED] <~huff/NewbieWelcome.txt thanks, eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What is this?
> Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender? > > The guys in mandrake should kick the person of the mailing list if > his/her is not working for 2 days max. There was a script in place to do just that, and it probably still is. Not sure why we get this. eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sound
> On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 00:26:00 -0400 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Done, I downloaded and installed drakxtools-newt. My problem now is: > > where are the tools the package gives? I know there are thousands of > > Well, in this case, it should have deposited 'draksound' and some other > files on your system. su to root, type 'draksound &' in a console, and > you should then be able to set your card up. Thanks. I haven't been able to change driver. For some reason that perhaps will be obvious to you, alsa has to get shut down and the program fails to do it. I get this when trying to change driver: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gcovar]# Doing alsactl to store mixer settings... [ OK ] Shutting down ALSA sound driver (version 1.0.2c): no. (sound is being used by pid 3647 )) [FAILED] ERROR: Module snd-emu10k1 is in use by snd-emu10k1-synth Loading mixer settings [ OK ] Your feedback will be appreciated. Cordially Teilhard - This mail sent through CWMail: http://www.crosswinds.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] ** Welcome to Newbie **
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Re: [newbie] Palm sync software
I have tried both Kpilot and Jpilot and settled on Jpilot for the reasons that Marv wrote. It is verry similar to the Palm Sync software for windows. I actually use Jpilot at home and the Palm software at work and keep my Palm synced with both locations. On Thursday 10 June 2004 08:53 pm, Marv Boyes wrote: > Jpilot is the closest you'll get to Palm Desktop on Linux. I've been > using it for about a year and a half with my Clie. > > Kpilot is handy if all you want to do is install a file (or sync with, > say, Evolution), but Jpilot brings a lot of extra PIM functionality. > > > > Best of luck, > Marv > > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > Amy wrote: > >> I'm using KDE, so I guess I'll give KPilot a try in the morning, > >> unless someone has any better suggestions and/or reasons why I > >> shouldn't try KPilot. > >> > >> Though, what are KDE PIM applications? Like what's PIM stand for, and > >> what sorts of applications are those? > > > > Personal > > Information > > Manager > > > > Things like phone book, address book, appointments, ect. > > > > I have not played with kpilot, but jpilot is like the Windows software > > for the Palm. Not as slick, but functional. It is an front end for > > the pilot-link command line utilities. (I just got my Palm yesterday, > > so I am still learning.) > > > > Mikkel > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > > -- ( )_( ) ( 0 0 ) --( )-- --0-- Never argue with an idiot. They drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sound
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:33:38 -0400 Teilhard Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...} |> But perhaps there are |>ways I do not know about to check which|installed programs there |>are, huh?| |>Cordially, |> |>Teilhard [...] Hi Teilhard, I started using linux over 9 months ago and someone suggested this..<< Greg Meyer maybe ? IIRC >> any way .. you can go to Mandrake Control Center [mcc] --> then to Software management --> Remove and .. with no intention of removing any packages 8) .. just click on any of the installed programs for their information .. make sure"maximum information" is checked, so you can take a look at the list of"files" that are installed from a package. :: or the longer way :: in a terminal you can type: $ rpm -qa | sort > ~/rpmlist-`date +%d%m%y_%I%M`.txt will create a file like this with the current date at the current time: rpmlist-100604_0904.txt which is a sorted list of all rpm packages installed that you can read in any text editor 8) and save for later. and for any package name you can get the information of by typing: $ rpm -qi "packagename" or for the list of files a package will install: $ rpm -ql "packagename" also .. $ man rpm in a terminal or in konqueror type man:rpm for more info check out www.urpmi.org for info on urpmi HTH RickS +--+ MandrakeLinux 10.0 official - 2.6.3-13mdk-i686-up-4GB gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 +--+ There's only one everything. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAyQmsJo/ckCSqvmERAmcnAKC2/diorRSRgN+Vt+zTlvtMH0wjoACcDjBw S7KT1E4tZqKlv8CQU7xKh3U= =NLjM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sound
Teilhard Knight wrote: Thanks a lot. I think I know now how the Linux world works. It is such a surprise for me to realise I have to know by memory about hundreds of programs in order to make them work. For someone from the Windows world it is kind of disappointing. But perhaps there are ways I do not know about to check which installed programs there are, huh? Cordially, Teilhard For most of the GUI tools, you can pick them from the menus. (Not all programs are in the menu's yet, but it is getting better.) For command line tools, it is sort of like dropping to the DOS prompt, except that you have tools to help you that you don't have in DOS. Things like typing part of a command, directory name, or file name, hitting Tab, and haveing the system complete it, or offer you options on completing it. You can also scroll through the command you have entered using the up and down arrows. You can edit the commands you bring up this way, and run them again. (A great help when you type like I do!) With most commands, you can get help by putting "--help" or "-h" after the command. You can also type "man " to get help with the commands. There is indeed a lot to learn if you want to take full advantage of the power of Linux, but you usualy don't need the command line tools to get things done. (I like them, and sometimes have to check on what the GUI tool is...) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Another Sound Issue (with 10.0 Official)...
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 11:15, John Richard Smith wrote: > I have the same nForce N2 sound chip as you and I use alsa with aRts and > the i8x0 sound setting. It works for me if not entirely well. > I also have alsamixer and kmix installed, for some reason when I had > aumix installed as well I had some problems with sound levels in some > channels and setting, that may be me, but it may not be me, I don't know. > The quality of the sound is not that good in demanding situations like > listening to good quality audio CD's and some DVD's but works well > enough in general situations. > John > Yes, I spoke too soon. The new (actually older soundcard) did not work for very long. I ended up reinstalling Mandrake 10.0. I think I'll hold off on updates for a bit and see what happens. I'm now back to using the nforce sound chip and it seems to be working fine. Thanks for the feedback! Travis Crook Visions Beyond Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BATCH FILE
On Thursday 10 June 2004 10:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > is it possible to create (save ) automatic files ( like batch files in > Windows) in Linux ? How ? > > I want to use this not to do always the same things in console. yes, you can put the commands you want automated in a text file. If there's a sequence of commands give each command it's own line. Run the file thus: "source name_of_file.txt" without the quotes and they'll get run. Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Link htdocs in Linux to htdocs in windows in the same computer
I tried to link my var/www/html to /mnt/win_c/htdocs but it tells that this file sys is read only so I log as root trying to change the permission; however, I could not. On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 11:18, Chipo Hamayobe wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jun 2004, OOzy wrote: > > Yes, the directory is already mounted as /mnt/win_c/apache/htdocs. I just > > want to link this to my public_html. So when I open a browser in Linux > > (127.0.0.1) it automatically opens the my win htdocs. > > just configure your apache httpd.conf file in windows so that the > document root is c:/apache/htdocs. then link your ~/public_html directory > to /mnt/win_c/apache/htdocs. this should work. > > chipo > > --- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Registered Linux User #353653 > > Cell: +27 73 501 8813 > Tel: +27 21 685 4050 ext 228 > Fax: +27 21 650 3465 > > URL: http://www.unix.za.net/~chipo > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Ugly display with KMail composer msgs.
On Thursday 10 June 2004 11:10, J Adam Latham wrote: > Dear All: > > Whenever I send a message with KMail it delivers the message in a wierd and > ugly format ... What it does is print a sentence of the message on one line, > then on the next line it only prints a word, then a sentence, then a word ... > (This message, I'm sure, is doing the same thing!) Yet my messages while > typed, and in my Sent folder, look just fine ... But the receiver's copy is > always a formatting disaster ... > > At first I thought it might be something related to word-wrap, but it's set at > 78, so that should be fine ... I tried reducing it to 70 but still got the > same results ... I didn't notice anything else in the Configure KMail options > to remedy this ... > > Any/all suggestions as to how to fix this will be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks, > Adam > -- > The greatest compliment that was ever paid me was > when someone asked me what I thought, and attended > to my answer. > -- Henry David Thoreau > > > You mean like the above quoted msg. That is a result of my kmail reply. Your original msg looks fine. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Installing Gnuplot
On Thursday 10 June 2004 09:56 am, OOzy wrote: > Hi all I downloaded the following gnuplot. The I unzipped it. Then typed > configure then make. This suppose ver 4. However, every time I type > gnuplot I get the previous version which 3.7. What wrong? How I fix it? > > gnuplot-4.0.0.tar.gz open a terminal go to the directory where you down loaded it type tar xzvf gnuplot-4.0.0.tar.gz the file will be unpacked type ls the directory listing will come up you will see a sub directory named gnuplot-4.0.0 cd to that directory type ./configure type make type su (root password) prompt will change to # type "make install" (w/o quotation marks) Type exit or close terminal you should be good to go Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Another Sound Issue (with 10.0 Official)...
I have the same nForce N2 sound chip as you and I use alsa with aRts and the i8x0 sound setting. It works for me if not entirely well. I also have alsamixer and kmix installed, for some reason when I had aumix installed as well I had some problems with sound levels in some channels and setting, that may be me, but it may not be me, I don't know. The quality of the sound is not that good in demanding situations like listening to good quality audio CD's and some DVD's but works well enough in general situations. John Travis Crook wrote: Hi All, I've been following the other sound problem threads and can't solve this little problem. Here is the situation: Hardware: Abit nv7-133r, nVidia GeForce3 ti200, 512MB RAM, nforce chipset, Athlon XP1500+ Distribution: Mandrake 10.0 Official Problem: NO SOUND (AUAUAUAGGHHH!) I get the following error when running XMMS, etc. (no matter which sound plugin I use). "Couldn't open audio Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly You hae the correct output plugin selected No other program is blocking the soundcard" I start up MCC and go to the hardware section. It lists my sound card as an nForce MCP Audio Processing Unit (Dolby Digital) (which is correct). The driver is the i810_Audio driver (which is correct). It states, "Here you can select an alternative driver (either OSS or ALSA_ for your sound card (Nvidia Corporation|nForce Audio Code Interface). Your card currently use the OSS "i810_audio" driver (default driver for your card is "i810_audio")" Is this a problem between OSS and ALSA? If so, how do I change/fix it? Which is better? Below my sig is the output from the troubleshooting commands in MCC. Thanks a bunch! Travis Crook Visions Beyond www.VisionsBeyond.com 208-478-7836 When I run the following "Sound Trouble Shooting" commands from the MCC this is what I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] quickbeam]# lspcidrake -v | fgrep AUDIO unknown : Nvidia Corporation|nForce MCP Audio Processing Unit (Dolby Digital) [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:10de device:01b0 subv:10de subd:0c11) i810_audio : Nvidia Corporation|nForce Audio Codec Interface [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:10de device:01b1 subv:147b subd:) [EMAIL PROTECTED] quickbeam]# grep sound-slot /etc/modules.conf alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio [EMAIL PROTECTED] quickbeam]# /sbin/lsmod Module Size Used by ipaq 11092 0 usbserial 29232 1 ipaq nls_cp437 5568 6 smbfs 62872 7 agpgart31016 0 nvidia 2068232 12 isofs 33912 0 zlib_inflate 22656 1 isofs sg 38044 0 st 38616 0 sr_mod 17028 0 sd_mod 16832 0 scsi_mod 114648 4 sg,st,sr_mod,sd_mod md5 3872 1 ipv6 232352 8 i810_audio 31860 1 ac97_codec 17804 1 i810_audio soundcore 9248 2 i810_audio af_packet 20520 0 raw 7616 1 ide-floppy 18752 0 ide-tape 34864 0 ide-cd 40548 0 cdrom 37184 2 sr_mod,ide-cd floppy 59444 0 8139too23712 0 mii 4992 1 8139too forcedeth 14304 0 nls_iso8859-1 3904 9 nls_cp850 4736 3 vfat 13760 3 fat45120 1 vfat supermount 37876 1 ehci-hcd 24196 0 joydev 10240 0 tsdev 7168 0 evdev 9504 0 usbmouse5216 0 hid53312 0 uhci-hcd 29104 0 ohci-hcd 18692 0 usbcore99132 9 ipaq,usbserial,ehci-hcd,usbmouse,hid,uhci-hcd,ohci-hcd rtc11576 0 ext3 110408 2 jbd54328 1 ext3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] quickbeam]# /sbin/chkconfig --list sound sound 0:off 1:off 2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off [EMAIL PROTECTED] quickbeam]# /sbin/chkconfig --list alsa alsa0:off 1:off 2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off [EMAIL PROTECTED] quickbeam]# aumix -q vol 90, 90 pcm 67, 67 speaker 67, 67 line 67, 67, P mic 0, 0, P cd 67, 67, R igain 67, 67, P line1 67, 67, P phin 67, 67, P phout 67, 67 video 67, 67, P [EMAIL PROTECTED] quickbeam]# /sbin/fuser -v /dev/dsp USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/dsp quickbeam 26933 f artsd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Installing Gnuplot
Op Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:56:07 +0300 schreef OOzy: >Hi all I downloaded the following gnuplot. The I unzipped it. Then >typed configure then make. This suppose ver 4. However, every time I >type gnuplot I get the previous version which 3.7. What wrong? How I >fix it? > >gnuplot-4.0.0.tar.gz Did you run "make install" (as root)? If you did, see if 'locate gnuplot' delivers 2 executables. Good chance that the older version is in the path before the newer one. Paul -- My play was a complete success. The audience was a failure. - Ashleigh Brilliant http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.htm Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Installing Gnuplot
Hi all I downloaded the following gnuplot. The I unzipped it. Then typed configure then make. This suppose ver 4. However, every time I type gnuplot I get the previous version which 3.7. What wrong? How I fix it? gnuplot-4.0.0.tar.gz Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] *.iso.bin??
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 12:30:56 -0400 Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Must be me getting your post mixed up with another one or > misremembering it. If the boot partition is suddenly gone, either > something traumatic has happened, ala bad hard drive, Looks more and more like this is it (Arrrghh!) Think it's still under warranty tho' >or something was done to make the boot up process stop working, ala >Windows. > You didn't "fix" any errors with a windows tool or make any > partition changes from within windows did you? Nope! I learned that lesson a couple years ago. I'm a newbie but not a *totally* clueless one! :-)) > Assuming that you were trying to make this change in Windows (2000, > XP, perhaps earlier versions), would explain it. A! yes - it is Win 2K - which I finally broke down and installed but haven't quite figured out yet one of these days it too will be history- Linux gods willing. Thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Proxy
You need to enable to proxy to ignore local ip addy's. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OOzy Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:34 PM To: Mandrake Subject: [newbie] Proxy For me to go online I have to use a proxy and when I go to 127.0.0.1 it tells me can't find proxy so and so? -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have recieved it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] *.iso.bin??
On Thursday 10 June 2004 12:22 pm, Curt wrote: > No hardware was shifted - I'm dual booting with windows and haven't > had any problem going back and forth - then all of a sudden I can't > get into Linux. Must be me getting your post mixed up with another one or misremembering it. If the boot partition is suddenly gone, either something traumatic has happened, ala bad hard drive, or something was done to make the boot up process stop working, ala Windows. You didn't "fix" any errors with a windows tool or make any partition changes from within windows did you? > I've burned many .iso images to a CD - this file was listed in the > tree where I got it as an .iso but after downloading, when I went to > find the image with CD creator, it didn't show at all. When I looked > at the properties of the file, it showed as RIP-7.9.iso.bin and the > file type as BIN. Renaming it changed name but still showed the > file type BIN. Assuming that you were trying to make this change in Windows (2000, XP, perhaps earlier versions), would explain it. Windows, by default, hides the file extension of known types of files so that you can't just simply rename the file from within explorer. You either need to change the default explorer view settings to show known file extensions or you need to open up a command prompt and rename the file from there. Start, Run, cmd CD to the directory with the file and then ' rename ".iso.bin" ".iso" ' -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Editions
Curt wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:05:30 +0300 PM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 17:48, OOzy wrote: What is the difference between the Download Edition and the one you buy from the shop? OOzy Box, disks, manuals, support. Plus less money goes to mandrake than if you download it & join the club. Several proprietary programs also ... if I'm not mistaken Only if you buy the Powerpack, I think. Sir Robin -- "I'm very into Britney Spears' early work, before she sold out, so mostly her, um, finger painting and macaroni art." Dawn - BtVS Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] *.iso.bin??
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 12:08:19 -0400 Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You would need to cd to the appropriate directory. Assuming you > mount to /mnt, then root would be /mnt/root, boot would be > /mnt/boot, etc would be /mnt/etc, home would be /mnt/home and so > on. > > You should be able to go to /mnt/etc and look at the lilo.conf file > to see which partitions it is trying to boot from and then you can > verify that the right partitions are mapped by checking > /mnt/etc/fstab. > Thanks I'll go back in and see what I can do. > Recovering Linux manually once you have physically shifted hardware > around the computer is not a trivial task. No hardware was shifted - I'm dual booting with windows and haven't had any problem going back and forth - then all of a sudden I can't get into Linux. Most people would have done much better to figure how how to remap the drive partitions > and done so before physically moving the drives. Again they weren't moved. In the alternative, you could have restored the drives to their original > positions, gotten back into Linux and then figured out how to remap > them before you shutdown the system, move them and then boot back > up. > > If you are unable to figure out how to burn an ISO image to a CD, I > wouldn't hold out much hope for being able to figure out how to > manually remap and restore Linux. However, I could be wrong. I've burned many .iso images to a CD - this file was listed in the tree where I got it as an .iso but after downloading, when I went to find the image with CD creator, it didn't show at all. When I looked at the properties of the file, it showed as RIP-7.9.iso.bin and the file type as BIN. Renaming it changed name but still showed the file type BIN. > -- > Bryan Phinney > Software Test Engineer > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Apache
OOzy wrote: How? where? what should I do? As root, at a command prompt, type "service httpd status". This will tell you if Apache is running. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] *.iso.bin??
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:20:17 -0500 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Curt wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 09:34:52 -0500 > > "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>If it is a corrupted disk, you may be able to boot by adding > >>append="init=/bin/bash" to the boot command. > > > > > > Wher do I find the boot command? lilo.conf? > > My other message explains (I hope) my confusion with the rescue > > function. > > > You should be able to access it from the LILO boot screen. Before > bootsplash, you would hit shift to get the LILO prompt, Shift didn't do it, it went straight to the menu choices. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*snip~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > Is this a duel boot machine? If so, it sounds like you may have a > virus that messed up the partition table. I've scanned Windows for viruses - don't think that's the problem. If not, it sounds like a hardware problem. What kind of errors does install give you? I get as far as configuring the mouse then it enters the hard drive detection stage and it exits abnormally with a signal 8 - unmounts /temp and /proc and tells me I can reboot. It > probably doesn't like the partition table, and doesn't want to risk > wiping everything out. If you are booting from the CD, try the > repair option, or the expert option. (I don't remember the exact > entries.) This is from an earlier email in response to frank's suggestion that I try the rescue option on from the install CD: I mount the partitions on/mnt, return to the prompt, but ls shows only the floppy, the CD ROM and what is in RAM - but not the hard disk. I've searched for info but haven't yet found anything that applies to my situation and/or makes sense to me. When I get back to the root prompt, how do I manage to see the Hard disk's partitions? My partitions are on hdd. Since it doesn't find init, I guess it's not being pointed to properly but I'm unsure where it is/should be and what points it there. I may have left out some pertinent info When I attempt to boot with any kernel or failsafe or non-fb I get this: mount: error 22 mounting ext3 pivotroot: pivot_root (sysroot,/sysroot/initrd) failes: 2 remounting devfs at correct place if necessary Freeing unused kernel memory: 156k freed Kernel panic: No init found (etc.) I've found that kernel panic is most usually a hardware problem - Guess I should run the tools from the Maxtor disc and see what comes up. Curt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Ugly display with KMail composer msgs.
Dear All: Whenever I send a message with KMail it delivers the message in a wierd and ugly format ... What it does is print a sentence of the message on one line, then on the next line it only prints a word, then a sentence, then a word ... (This message, I'm sure, is doing the same thing!) Yet my messages while typed, and in my Sent folder, look just fine ... But the receiver's copy is always a formatting disaster ... At first I thought it might be something related to word-wrap, but it's set at 78, so that should be fine ... I tried reducing it to 70 but still got the same results ... I didn't notice anything else in the Configure KMail options to remedy this ... Any/all suggestions as to how to fix this will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Adam -- The greatest compliment that was ever paid me was when someone asked me what I thought, and attended to my answer. -- Henry David Thoreau Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] *.iso.bin??
On Thursday 10 June 2004 10:59 am, Curt wrote: > I mount the partitions on/mnt, return to the prompt, but ls shows > only the floppy, the CD ROM and what is in RAM - but not the hard > disk. I've searched for info but haven't yet found anything that > applies to my situation and/or makes sense to me. > When I get back to the root prompt, how do I manage to see the Hard > disk's partitions? My partitions are on hdd. You would need to cd to the appropriate directory. Assuming you mount to /mnt, then root would be /mnt/root, boot would be /mnt/boot, etc would be /mnt/etc, home would be /mnt/home and so on. You should be able to go to /mnt/etc and look at the lilo.conf file to see which partitions it is trying to boot from and then you can verify that the right partitions are mapped by checking /mnt/etc/fstab. Recovering Linux manually once you have physically shifted hardware around the computer is not a trivial task. Most people would have done much better to figure how how to remap the drive partitions and done so before physically moving the drives. In the alternative, you could have restored the drives to their original positions, gotten back into Linux and then figured out how to remap them before you shutdown the system, move them and then boot back up. If you are unable to figure out how to burn an ISO image to a CD, I wouldn't hold out much hope for being able to figure out how to manually remap and restore Linux. However, I could be wrong. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] USB Memory Stick questions
I'm running 10 Official (kernel 2.6.3-7) and have a 256 MB memstick. Mandrake sees it and lets me read and write to it (fat32), but it seems to take forever - an 80MB copy from it took me over an hour. 1) whats am I doing wrong that it's taking so long? Is it the fat32 format? 2) I need to pass access to the stick to XP running inside a vmware host session on Mandrake (vmware 4.5). VMware says that "usb storage" has locked it up and so it can't use it. How do I "turn off" usb storage in Linux and is this something I can do on the fly - load and unload? It doesn't look to be listed as a service. Any help appreciated Ed Smits Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] What is this?
Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender? The guys in mandrake should kick the person of the mailing list if his/her is not working for 2 days max. Sorry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Apache
How? where? what should I do? On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 18:39, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > OOzy wrote: > > How do I know that Apache is installed and is up and running? I have > > already installed it and when I type "whereis apache2" it finds it for > > me? > > > service httpd status > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Apache
OOzy wrote: How do I know that Apache is installed and is up and running? I have already installed it and when I type "whereis apache2" it finds it for me? service httpd status Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] allow users to halt from comman line
> > How do you allow users to halt from the command line? > See 'man sudoers' I did that and it didn't work, but i realized later that i don't know if some service has to be restarted for it to take effect. I'll try that machine tonite and see if it now works. There's some other way, though, because the sudoers files were the same for both boxes, and i didn't see any SUID's on halt or consolehelper, but consolehelper may have a lot going on behind the scene that i don't see. > Or did you mean > KDEControlCentre>System>LoginManager>Shutdown Yeah, that's it. I didn't install kde on the other box, though. Anyone have any idea what kcontrol is modifying with that section? thanks, eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Proxy
For me to go online I have to use a proxy and when I go to 127.0.0.1 it tells me can't find proxy so and so? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Apache
How do I know that Apache is installed and is up and running? I have already installed it and when I type "whereis apache2" it finds it for me? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] *.iso.bin??
Curt wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 09:34:52 -0500 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is hard to say if you are on the right track. The problem is that there are several things that could cause this. One is a bad hard drive. Another is wrong BIOS settings for the drive. But this usualy happens when you more the drive to a different computer, or change BIOS settings. It also happens with a corrupted file system, or if the partition table is damaged. Partition table damage, and wrong drive settings show up on boot if you watch the bootup messages, and hit ScrLK (scroll lock) when it shows the drive partition table. Unfortunitly, both look about the same - no partitions, or wrong ones. If it is a corrupted disk, you may be able to boot by adding append="init=/bin/bash" to the boot command. Wher do I find the boot command? lilo.conf? My other message explains (I hope) my confusion with the rescue function. You should be able to access it from the LILO boot screen. Before bootsplash, you would hit shift to get the LILO prompt, and then tye in the boot name, and the command. Something like "linux init=/bin/bash". With grub, you highlight the entry, and hit e (for edit) and edit the entry for the way you want it to boot this time. I have not tried it with LILO and bootsplash, but highlighting an entry and hitting e instead of return will probably work. But booting from this CD, or using the install CDs, is probably the simplest way to see what is going on. Got frustrated and decided to "install" wiping the root partition but it wouldn't let me get that far. This really strikes me as odd, as I hadn't even booted mkd for 3 days - I was using Windows during that time so only LILO was used as far as Linux is concerned. I don't get it. Is this a duel boot machine? If so, it sounds like you may have a virus that messed up the partition table. If not, it sounds like a hardware problem. What kind of errors does install give you? It probably doesn't like the partition table, and doesn't want to risk wiping everything out. If you are booting from the CD, try the repair option, or the expert option. (I don't remember the exact entries.) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Editions
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:14:19 +0300 PM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Box, disks, manuals, support. > > > > > > Plus less money goes to mandrake than if you download it & join > > > the club. > > > > > > > > Several proprietary programs also ... if I'm not mistaken > > > Are these available to club members? > > -- > Paul M. > _ > In the beginning, man created god. All that and more!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Another Sound Issue (with 10.0 Official)...
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 05:47 pm, Travis Crook wrote: > Hi All, > I've been following the other sound problem threads and can't solve > this little problem. Hello, I believe that sound modules which one wishes to use with ALSA have a "snd-" prefix. Try using this instead. JHM. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Editions
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 18:09, Curt wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:05:30 +0300 > PM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 17:48, OOzy wrote: > > > What is the difference between the Download Edition and the one > > > you buy from the shop? > > > > > > OOzy > > > > > > > > > > Box, disks, manuals, support. > > > > Plus less money goes to mandrake than if you download it & join the > > club. > > > > Several proprietary programs also ... if I'm not mistaken > Are these available to club members? -- Paul M. _ In the beginning, man created god. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] *.iso.bin??
Just realized this went to Frank instead of the list. On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:26:02 +1200 Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How did you do the initial installation? > > If you used discs then simply insert the first one again and select > 'Repair' or 'Rescue' and follow the prompts. Yes install was done by the CDs. I did try that but not being all that familiar with the CLI, following the prompts only gets me so far. ... I mount the partitions on/mnt, return to the prompt, but ls shows only the floppy, the CD ROM and what is in RAM - but not the hard disk. I've searched for info but haven't yet found anything that applies to my situation and/or makes sense to me. When I get back to the root prompt, how do I manage to see the Hard disk's partitions? My partitions are on hdd. Since it doesn't find init, I guess it's not being pointed to properly but I'm unsure where it is/should be and what points it there. (mostly) clueless Curt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Editions
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:05:30 +0300 PM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 17:48, OOzy wrote: > > What is the difference between the Download Edition and the one > > you buy from the shop? > > > > OOzy > > > > > > Box, disks, manuals, support. > > Plus less money goes to mandrake than if you download it & join the > club. > > -- > Paul M. > _ > In the beginning, man created god. Several proprietary programs also ... if I'm not mistaken Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Good Rich Office
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OOzy Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:51 PM To: Mandrake Subject: [newbie] Good Rich Office What is a good office similar to MS. I need a rich Word processor. I am switching from Windows to Linux. At least I don't lose much functionality. BR Have a look at this link to help with any other transition software. http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have recieved it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Editions
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 17:48, OOzy wrote: > What is the difference between the Download Edition and the one you buy > from the shop? > > OOzy > > Box, disks, manuals, support. Plus less money goes to mandrake than if you download it & join the club. -- Paul M. _ In the beginning, man created god. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problems installing libstdc++ library?
Jason Wilson wrote: Oh, I see. So 'urmpi' is actually a command line tool that can only be executed by root. Is that correct? At least it works that way on my system. Thanks for the help, John. Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes. Only root can install system software. Only root has write access to the RPM database. There are also GUI tools for installing RPMs, that ask for the root password before running. Look under the Configuration/Packaging section for Install Software. You can then search for the package, or look for the type of program you want. It will also tell you about any other packages you need to install the package you want. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] *.iso.bin??
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 09:34:52 -0500 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is hard to say if you are on the right track. The problem is > that there are several things that could cause this. One is a bad > hard drive. Another is wrong BIOS settings for the drive. But > this usualy happens when you more the drive to a different > computer, or change BIOS settings. It also happens with a > corrupted file system, or if the partition table is damaged. > > Partition table damage, and wrong drive settings show up on boot if > you watch the bootup messages, and hit ScrLK (scroll lock) when it > shows the drive partition table. Unfortunitly, both look about the > same - no partitions, or wrong ones. > > If it is a corrupted disk, you may be able to boot by adding > append="init=/bin/bash" to the boot command. Wher do I find the boot command? lilo.conf? My other message explains (I hope) my confusion with the rescue function. > > But booting from this CD, or using the install CDs, is probably the > simplest way to see what is going on. Got frustrated and decided to "install" wiping the root partition but it wouldn't let me get that far. This really strikes me as odd, as I hadn't even booted mkd for 3 days - I was using Windows during that time so only LILO was used as far as Linux is concerned. I don't get it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Mandrake Editions
What is the difference between the Download Edition and the one you buy from the shop? OOzy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problems installing libstdc++ library?
John Drouhard wrote: On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 22:15 -0400, Jason Wilson wrote: Another interesting thing is this: executing grep urpmi gives me nothing. I don't think it's actually installed on my system. What then? If you want to check to see if something is installed on your system, you can open a terminal, and type 'rpm -qa | grep ', or in this case: 'rpm -qa | grep urpmi'. HTH, John Drouhard A fast way to check if the program is installed, and on your path is to type "type " - this will show you where the program is. But it only works for programs on your path. (Ones you can run without giving the path to the program.) You can also type part of the name, and hit the Tab key. Bash will try and complete the command for you. If there is more then one match, it will fill in the common part, and offer you a list of matches. You can also use locate or slocate, as long as the database is up to date. It is updates nightly as a cron job, but doesn't know about anything added sence the last update. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problems installing libstdc++ library?
On Wednesday 09 June 2004 10:52 pm, John Drouhard wrote: > On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 22:08 -0400, Jason Wilson wrote: > > Derek, > > > > Your explanation is MUCH appreciated. I thank you. This AIM package > > that I downloaded was for Mandrake 7.2 but then again, that was a long > > time ago. I didn't realize that there were other instant messaging > > programs that were far better. I am now using Gaim and am very happy > > with it. And how would I use "urpmi"? > > urpmi is a command line tool that you would use in a terminal. The > terminal is in K Menu -> System -> Terminals -> Konsole. Once you have > loaded this, then you can type the command 'su'. This will ask you for a > password. Type in you root password that you made when you installed > Mandrake. Then, you can type 'urpmi ' which will install > the program, if it is in the urpmi database. Or, if you've downloaded an > RPM from the internet, then you can type 'urpmi /path/to/downloadedRPM' > which will install it. > > HTH, > John Drouhard Oh, I see. So 'urmpi' is actually a command line tool that can only be executed by root. Is that correct? At least it works that way on my system. Thanks for the help, John. Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] *.iso.bin??
Curt wrote: When starting 10.0 up, I got the "no init found - try passing init= option to kernel" Last time I booted everything was fine and there were no problems during shutdown. After searching and finding several "solutions" with no follow up by the original poster, I decided to try what sounded like the best advice... download RIP-7.9, burn to disc and use gpart which the poster said solved his identical problem. So now I have the file but I have three questions: 1. If I am on the right track, how do I burn this .iso to a CD - the properties say it's a .iso.bin file. Easy CD Creator doesn't see it as an .iso and I'm not finding any info on *.iso.bin files with google. 2. Does anyone think I might be on the wrong track? 3. If so, what do I do to determine what's gone wrong? Any pointers?? It is hard to say if you are on the right track. The problem is that there are several things that could cause this. One is a bad hard drive. Another is wrong BIOS settings for the drive. But this usualy happens when you more the drive to a different computer, or change BIOS settings. It also happens with a corrupted file system, or if the partition table is damaged. Partition table damage, and wrong drive settings show up on boot if you watch the bootup messages, and hit ScrLK (scroll lock) when it shows the drive partition table. Unfortunitly, both look about the same - no partitions, or wrong ones. If it is a corrupted disk, you may be able to boot by adding append="init=/bin/bash" to the boot command. But booting from this CD, or using the install CDs, is probably the simplest way to see what is going on. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] *.iso.bin??
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 09:09:21 -0500 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Curt wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:38:47 +1000 > > Paul Harradine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Curt, > >> > >>try renaming it to .iso (take the .bin off) and you should be > >able>to burn it with anything > >> > > > > Should have mentioned that I tried that - it's still shows as > > file > > type BIN - and CD Creator still doesn't see it. > > > > > I have had problems with Windows not wanting to remove the file > type before. If I remember right, you can select all files when > searching for an image file to burn. You should be able to burn it > that way, without any problems. > > Mikkel Tried that too - the drop down doesn't show anything except .cif and .iso types. Thanks anyway Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BATCH FILE
Raffaele BELARDI wrote: Yes, they are called bash scripts. Create a text file with your favorite editor, containing the bash commands you want to execute, save it as , then from the console type: chmod u+x to make the script executable. To execute it, type from a console (in the directory containing the script): ./ bash provides you with lots of control commands (if, while, for...) provided you digest its anachronistic and counter-intuitive the syntax... raffaele I like to put all my shell scripts in a directory called bin off my home directory. That way, you can type the command from anywhere, and it will run. (/home//bin is in you path with the defaul setup in 9.2, and probably 10.0) If you want to see some examples of scripts, look at the entries in /etc/cron.daily, or about 1/3rd of the "programs" in /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin, /use/sbin, ect. There are also a couple of HOWTOs on writing script files, as well as many books. You are not limmited to writing them in one launge. The first line of the script tells what program to use to run the script. #!/bin/bash Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] *.iso.bin??
Curt wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:38:47 +1000 Paul Harradine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Curt, try renaming it to .iso (take the .bin off) and you should be able to burn it with anything Should have mentioned that I tried that - it's still shows as file type BIN - and CD Creator still doesn't see it. I have had problems with Windows not wanting to remove the file type before. If I remember right, you can select all files when searching for an image file to burn. You should be able to burn it that way, without any problems. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Palm sync software
Amy wrote: I'm using KDE, so I guess I'll give KPilot a try in the morning, unless someone has any better suggestions and/or reasons why I shouldn't try KPilot. Though, what are KDE PIM applications? Like what's PIM stand for, and what sorts of applications are those? Personal Information Manager Things like phone book, address book, appointments, ect. I have not played with kpilot, but jpilot is like the Windows software for the Palm. Not as slick, but functional. It is an front end for the pilot-link command line utilities. (I just got my Palm yesterday, so I am still learning.) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] *.iso.bin??
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:38:47 +1000 Paul Harradine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Curt, > > try renaming it to .iso (take the .bin off) and you should be able > to burn it with anything > Should have mentioned that I tried that - it's still shows as file type BIN - and CD Creator still doesn't see it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Email Client
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 11:42:42AM +0300, OOzy wrote: > What is a good email client beside Evolution? Mutt is the best. Or as the author says, it "sucks less". Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Email Client
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:42:42 +0300 OOzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is a good email client beside Evolution? > > > sylpheed-Claws short 'n sweet Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Email Client
Chipo Hamayobe wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Anders Lind wrote: What is a good email client beside Evolution? try pine I don't go for these new-fangled clients - it's elm for me ;-) Sir Robin -- "I'm very into Britney Spears' early work, before she sold out, so mostly her, um, finger painting and macaroni art." Dawn - BtVS Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] allow users to halt from comman line
Sorry Eric, just woke up and didn't read thru your post completely. Never mind. > Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How do you allow users to halt from the command line? > > > > I've seen the click box a million times, but now i can't find it! > > > > Or, where is the config file? > > > > I just did a fairly minimal install on a box with ML 10.0, and it > > doesn't allow user halt by default. I get the feeling i saw it in > > the graphical boot setup or something like that on previous boxes, > > but i don't use that anymore. > > > > thanks, > > eric > > > > just type halt, in a terminal and it will shutdown your pc. > > man halt > > -- > Linux user #280097 > Machines #162480 #191825 > > http://counter.li.org > > -- Linux user #280097 Machines #162480 #191825 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] allow users to halt from comman line
Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do you allow users to halt from the command line? > > I've seen the click box a million times, but now i can't find it! > > Or, where is the config file? > > I just did a fairly minimal install on a box with ML 10.0, and it > doesn't allow user halt by default. I get the feeling i saw it in > the graphical boot setup or something like that on previous boxes, > but i don't use that anymore. > > thanks, > eric > just type halt, in a terminal and it will shutdown your pc. man halt -- Linux user #280097 Machines #162480 #191825 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A good fax program
On Thursday 10 Jun 2004 10:02, OOzy wrote: > L&G > > Where can I find a good fax program to send faxed from my LM9.2 You already have one installed. Whenever you print a file look in the drop down list of available printers. One of them is "Print to fax" That will open up KdePrintFax Before you can use it you will need to set up kdeprintfax, and you may need to edit some settings in /etc/fax.config (I forget if 9.2 needs that) Faxing from OpenOffice is more difficult because it will not offer you the Print to Fax option. I have a page describing fax from OpenOffice here http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/fax_cups.html derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] allow users to halt from comman line
On Thursday 10 Jun 2004 07:22, Eric Huff wrote: > How do you allow users to halt from the command line? > > I've seen the click box a million times, but now i can't find it! > > Or, where is the config file? > > I just did a fairly minimal install on a box with ML 10.0, and it > doesn't allow user halt by default. I get the feeling i saw it in > the graphical boot setup or something like that on previous boxes, > but i don't use that anymore. > > thanks, > eric See 'man sudoers' Or did you mean KDEControlCentre>System>LoginManager>Shutdown derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Unable to connect to DSL
Yes that did it. The route add command. Thanks!!! best regards, Edward See magicaLogic direct line: 411-3251 cel:0921-219-6380 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Focus on Data-Mining and Business Intelligence . Love People not Things. Use Things not People Use Brain on OneSelf. Use Heart towards Others. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Jennings Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Unable to connect to DSL On Thursday 10 Jun 2004 03:46, Edward See wrote: > in /etc/sysconfig/network GATEWAY=222.126.25.249 but route -n showed > 222.126.25.248 > thanks > EdSee > > route -n > > Destination Gateway Genmask FlagMetric Ref Use Iface > 222.126.25.2480.0.0.0 255.255.255.248 u 0 0 0 eth0 > 192.168.20.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 u 0 0 0 eth1 > 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 u 0 0 0 lo > You have no default route defined. In a root terminal route add default eth0 will create a default route. But that is what the line GATEWAYDEV=eth0 in /etc/sysconfig/network does. Did you try restarting networking after you removed the GATEWAY command you had yesterday? 'service network restart' derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.647 / Virus Database: 414 - Release Date: 29/Mar/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.647 / Virus Database: 414 - Release Date: 29/Mar/2004 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Email Client
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:42:42 +0300 OOzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is a good email client beside Evolution? > I prefer Sylpheed Claws, a small very good and easy client to work with, if you just need email then it is very very useful and it is also a newsclient as well. Cheers Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Email Client
What is a good email client beside Evolution? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BATCH FILE
I mean , for example I always mount a flash drive in console with some commands. I want to write these commands to a file ( like batch files in windows) and save this file on desktop. And if I want to run these command file I will double click on this file and it will run automatically and do the job for me ?? Best regards. Hakan Ertas Uretim Yoneticisi / Production Manager Dr. Oetker Gıda San. A.Ş. ( IZMIR , TURKEY ) Tel : +90 232 8641800 - 220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chipo Hamayobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [newbie] BATCH FILE andrake.com 10.06.2004 11:29 Please respond to newbie On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > is it possible to create (save ) automatic files ( like batch files in > Windows) in Linux ? How ? > I want to use this not to do always the same things in console. i cant seem to understand your question. can you please explain what you mean. chipo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #353653 Cell: +27 73 501 8813 Tel: +27 21 685 4050 ext 228 Fax: +27 21 650 3465 URL: http://www.unix.za.net/~chipo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Palm sync software
I'm using KDE, so I guess I'll give KPilot a try in the morning, unless someone has any better suggestions and/or reasons why I shouldn't try KPilot. Though, what are KDE PIM applications? Like what's PIM stand for, and what sorts of applications are those? John Layt wrote: Depends on what desktop you use. KDE has KPilot (rpm is kdepim-kpilot) which works either stand-alone or allows you to integrate into KDE PIM applications. Gnome has GPilot (rpm gnome-pilot) and Evolution integration (rpm evolution-pilot). For other desktops, there's JPilot which is purely stand-alone. John. On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:42, Amy wrote: Can anyone recommend a good palm sync program that will work with my Palm m130? Preferably something I can snag through urpmi, because I seem to run into problems every time I try to install something downloaded from somewhere else, and I hate having to bug my friend to walk me through the process of fixing whatever I screwed up. Also, keep in mind, I recently switched from Windows (about a month or so ago), so I'm still very much learning what the heck I'm doing here. Luckily my friend (aka. tech support, poor guy but he volunteered) has been very patient with me, and I seem to be getting my feet here. So, the simpler to set up and use, the better. If it makes any difference, I do need to make sure I can do the following with my sync software: I need to be able to install programs to my palm (I need to update my BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit, for those not familiar with the SF bay area) planner due to schedule and rate changes), otherwise about the only thing I need to be able to do is backup the information stored in my palm. Thanks in advance! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BATCH FILE
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > is it possible to create (save ) automatic files ( like batch files in > Windows) in Linux ? How ? > I want to use this not to do always the same things in console. i cant seem to understand your question. can you please explain what you mean. chipo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #353653 Cell: +27 73 501 8813 Tel: +27 21 685 4050 ext 228 Fax: +27 21 650 3465 URL: http://www.unix.za.net/~chipo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] BATCH FILE
hello friends, is it possible to create (save ) automatic files ( like batch files in Windows) in Linux ? How ? I want to use this not to do always the same things in console. Best Regards Hakan Ertas Uretim Yoneticisi / Production Manager Dr. Oetker Gıda San. A.Ş. ( IZMIR , TURKEY ) Tel : +90 232 8641800 - 220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Removed secondary hard disk... now what?
On Thursday 10 June 2004 03:21, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Or do like I do - have a bookable Linux CD What a wonderful typo;) Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
