Re: [newbie] Good PHP Editor
On Friday 11 Jun 2004 8:11 pm, OOzy wrote: > Any how anybody knows a good PHP Editor? Vim That's all i use for php, html and the rest... Anguo -- www.masquilier.org Condorcet, Approval alternative voting. In order to prevent people from receiving viruses that would seem to originate from my email, if you use Microsoft Windows you do not have permission to add this address to your address book. If I am in your address book, please remove me. Of course, this does not apply to GNU/Linux users. Thank you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] SCSI Detection problem
Thanks for the response, unfortunately it did not work. After booting expert and choosing the aic7xxx_old driver I had the same problem. Note: Booting with kernel 2.6 renders an error loading the module or something like that. Anyway, with the alt1 image (kernel 2.4) I could get as far as freezing while trying to detect the HDs but this time I could see some response of what it was trying to do: (scsi0:0:0:1) Device reset, message buffer in use SCSI host 0 channel 0 reset (pid 1) timed out - trying harder SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0 SCSI host abort (pid 1) timed out - resetting SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0 These messages repeated over and over till I gave up. Btw, Suse 9 is working perfectly and uses version 6.2.36 of the aic7xxx driver, which is quite recent so I am not sure if it is related to the driver. Appreciate any help, Bernardo de Barros Franco -Original Message- On Wednesday 16 June 2004 08:45 pm, Bernardo de Barros Franco wrote: | Hello, | | I have tried to install Mandrake 9 and 10 to no avail, they both freeze | after installing the module for the scsi controller, before (while?) | detecting the scsi hds attached to it. | The funny thing is that I got the installation cds for OpenBSD 3.3, Suse | 9 and Red Hat 7.3 all to detect my both HDs out of the box. | My configuration (as lspci and dmesg from the Suse installation): | 1 VIA-chipset motherboard with 512 RAM DDR400, a Pentium 4 1.8ghz | processor, a CDROM on ide0 and a Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D SCSI controller | (id 7) that controls 2 IBM-PSG DNES-309170W 9.1Gb hard drives on ids 0 | and 1. | After booting from the cd (Mandrake 10) and trying to install with the | 2.6 kernel I get a error when insmodding the aic7xxx. Since I've read | somewhere that that is expected with that kernel I try an alternate boot | image (the 2.4 kernel one). The module is installed ok (version 6.2.36) | and detects AIC-7881U. My controller is found correctly but then when it | should list my HDs, it just stays there forever. I have tried 2 | different medias for the version 10 install and tried once other media | with version 9 which had the exact same problem. | I am feeling particularly frustrated since Suse 9 has apparently the | same aic7xxx module version 6.2.36 and detects the HDs without any | issues. As stated above the detection also was successful on Red Hat 7.3 | and OpenBSD 3.3, but I really would ratter use Mandrake ;) | | Thanks in advance, | Bernardo de Barros Franco You probably have one of the older Adaptec 2940 SCSI controllers. They changed the drivers for their newer models a couple of years ago, and the driver that Mandrake installs is the new driver, which doesn't work with the old 2940. Last I knew, the old driver was still on the disk, however, and was listed as the aic7xxx_Old (or something similar). To install this driver you need to boot the install and type "expert" to get to the choices which include the old driver. The reason RH7.x works is they were still using the old driver back then. Probably ditto for BSD3--don't know about Suse. The last Mandrake distro that installed the old driver as default was 8.2. If you need more info, Google is you friend. hth Erylon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Xorg rpms
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:45:50 -0400 Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] | Xorg rpms now available for Mdk 10.0 |These rpms will replace exiting Xfree86 rpms and lib. | |They will work with both the fglrx and Nvidia drivers though I can | only provide first hand verification of the fglrx driver. | |Charles Thx Charles.. very much, I can verify they work with nvidia drivers after rebuilding the driver. 8) RickS +--+ MandrakeLinux 10.0 official - 2.6.3-13mdk-i686-up-4GB gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 +--+ Got a dictionary? I want to know the meaning of life. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA0jYdJo/ckCSqvmERAmRTAJ48R/hJfOSf2SzG7A7Exv01BXHtjgCfSvtf EI9Jy47MjeC6d1KFL+RyH0Q= =EF4P -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Thunderbird closes itself
Thanks to anyone who tried to help me figure it out. I'm just going to cry uncle here. Okay, so I gave in and decided to just filter for Microsoft in the headers of emails from OOzy. So far, so good, it seems. I haven't had anything else crashing me... We'll see how this works out. I can usually pick up on whatever I miss out from those emails based upon the replies people make to the messages, so I should be cool. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI wiped
*snips down a whole lot* Johan Sch wrote: 1-The way Amy did with the help of a friend,, Amy .. kindly if possible the required rpms to restore urpmi please. I'd love to let you know what rpms are needed to restore it, but I didn't make a list while I was doing it. Basically what I did was poke through one of the mirrors, find the most recent version of urpmi, try to install that, then went to find whatever it asked for when it wouldn't install. However, if I'm not mistaken, the big thing that needed to be updated was perl. I think if you start with grabbing the most recent version of perl, and the most recent version of urpmi, then try to install those two, you should have a pretty good idea on what needs to be updated to get urpmi rolling again. Sorry I couldn't be much more help! Good luck! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] creating FAT32 partition in linux, 3.2gb?
martin brandt wrote: Hello, i am trying to create a FAT32 formatted partition with my remaining 50gb. When i do it only becomes 3.2gb.. Im not too sure if this is because of the FAT32 filesystem, because i know FAT16 can only have a max of like 2gb, but i also have a FAT32 partition sized 61gb, which i made on.. windows. How can i create a larger partition? It needs to be FAT32, and i need to do it on linux, as i am having trouble with windows made FAT32 and linux. THanks in advance. This is probably going to turn into something that should be on the expert list, but I'll ask a couple of questions anyway... Does the BIOS see the full size of the drive? How large is the drive? Can you create a 50gb ext2 partition where you are trying to create the FAT32 partition? What kind of problems are you having with Windows created partitions and Linux? It is hard to tell from the information you have given, but what I suspect is happening is that Windows does not see the entire drive, and so you are only getting the space from the start of the partition to what Windows thinks is the end of the drive. If this is the case, you may have to move things around on the drive. Put all the Windows partitions in the first part of the drive, and give Linux the rest. Depending on the boot loader and machine BIOS, you may have to give Linux a small chunk (16mb is plenty) in the lower part of the drive for the /boot directory. I am so used to creating a /boot partition that I have not kept up with the limits of the current boot loaders... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] German Language SPAM
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:41:47 -0400 Lanman disseminated the following: > Joe; One thing to consider is that you switch to another service. I had > the same problems with Sympatico and Videotron, so I switched to ISTOP. I've been seriously considering it. Even with my discount on the Sympatico, it's about the same price. I'm prolly gonna go for the 34.95/month for 1.5 MB and a static IP. 1.5 is all I'm getting from Bell anyway, despite their claims, and I'm quite happy with that. IStop has one of the highest ratings on dslreports...and if I ever have any serious problems, the owner is on the Toronto LUG mailing list ;-) -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 19:05:05 up 27 min, 4 users, load average: 0.09, 0.06, 0.06 +++ There are literally several levels of SCO being wrong. And even if we were to live in that alternate universe where SCO would be right, they'd still be wrong. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] German Language SPAM
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 17 June 2004 08:31 am, Lanman wrote: For instance, I'm constantly getting people trying (and failing)to connect to my network from China, and Amsterdam. A quick check at "arin.net" tells me where it's coming from and allows me to block their IP's in my firewall. Afterwards, they're just a distant memory. A lot of the China and Amsterdam hack attempts are coming through open proxies. That doesn't mean that it isn't necessary to block the attempts but putting them permanently in a firewall will eventually ban what might become legitimate traffic once the clueless admin figures out how to secure their system. However, Your Server, Your Rules. Brian; Thanks for the info above. I typically put them into my firewall rules and keep an eye on the connection attempts for a few weeks. Once they stop, I usually review my rules and try taking them out. If I don't get anymore hits from those subnets, then I leave it as is. If I do, the rules go back in. For whatever reason, I get very little spam, but I do get people trying to connect to my servers, and only authorized users are allowed in, so when I see connection attempts, i block the entire ISP's subnet, since many of the attempts are probably from dynamic IP addresses. I don't disagree with what you said about legitimate traffic, but at the same time, I'm not willing to wait for clueless admins to get their heads out of their a$$e$. hence the firewall rules. Thanks anyways. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] German Language SPAM
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 17 June 2004 03:07 pm, JoeHill wrote: Not that I don't know how, but because I'm on a dynamic IP which belongs to a block of 'consumer' addresses, I end up on DNSRBL's within minutes. I guess I pretty much already am running a mailserver (fetchmail, postfix, procmail), but I still have to use my ISP's SMTP server, so I just don't consider it really having my own mailserver unless I can reliably *send* mail from my own machine. Joe, I really don't think that the dynamic IP matters all that much really. I ran a Postfix server off of a dynamic IP for quite a little bit before switching over to static. Most mail servers don't block at that level. Now, they do block on reverse DNS with failure to obtain an MX record for the claimed domain. Once I had a domain name with a DNS that had an MX record, I had very few problems originating mail. Joe; One thing to consider is that you switch to another service. I had the same problems with Sympatico and Videotron, so I switched to ISTOP. They're based out of Ottawa, but they service Toronto and Montreal as well. They have an ADSL package that runs about $45.00/month, which includes 3.5Mbps download, 800k upload, and a static IP address. Whether or not you're in a residence or not, you can run DNS, Web, FTP, anything at all, with a 25GB limit per month during peak hours and unlimited limit in non-peak hours. Oh, yeah, one more thing. They run everything on Linux and they really know their stuff. Since you're already a Sympatico client, they won't charge you for the transfer either! All you have to do is to fax them a copy of your last Sympatico invoice when you sign up, and they'll waive the transfer fee. They can provide you with a modem if you don't own yours, but buying one is cheaper in the long run. Have a look at it and then decide whether or not Sympatico is such a great deal. Hopefully, you're not stuck in some sort of long-term contract. HTH Lanman here's their link; www.istop.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Shame on Adobe
On Thursday 17 June 2004 17:19, Cezary Morga wrote: > Dnia czw 17. czerwca 2004 16:33, Alastair Fay napisaÅ: > > If you don't like their product, then don't use it - > > Well, there actually are no good Adobe programs to use under Linux. It is a > pity indeed that Adobe doesn't care about Linux users. I've read somewhere > that Disney and some other companies wanted Adobe to make a Linux version of > their programs but they refused. So Disney began to create their own > animation program for this OS. Adobe may some day awake and see that there is > no place for him in Linux world. After all we've got a GIMP which is, at > least for my needs, a very good alternative to Photoshop. I haven't fully > checked what it can do but from what I saw till now I can say that for web > graphic designing it's a very good prog. I'm comparing GIMP 2 and Photoshop > 7. With some imagination and a little talent you can do the same good looking > graphics with GIMP as with a Photoshop. > > -- > Cezary Morga ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) GG# 169903 > > I have Acrobat Reader 5 and I cant figure out what the problem is, It seems to work like the windows version. Gimp is Great. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Shame on Adobe
Dnia czw 17. czerwca 2004 16:33, Alastair Fay napisał: > If you don't like their product, then don't use it - Well, there actually are no good Adobe programs to use under Linux. It is a pity indeed that Adobe doesn't care about Linux users. I've read somewhere that Disney and some other companies wanted Adobe to make a Linux version of their programs but they refused. So Disney began to create their own animation program for this OS. Adobe may some day awake and see that there is no place for him in Linux world. After all we've got a GIMP which is, at least for my needs, a very good alternative to Photoshop. I haven't fully checked what it can do but from what I saw till now I can say that for web graphic designing it's a very good prog. I'm comparing GIMP 2 and Photoshop 7. With some imagination and a little talent you can do the same good looking graphics with GIMP as with a Photoshop. -- Cezary Morga ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) GG# 169903 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I can't install dvdrip
Em Qui, 2004-06-17 às 18:38, Stephen Kuhn escreveu: > On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 06:44, Josenildo Marques wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I can't install dvdrip or transcode. I am sure the rpm sources are OK > > because I have already installed other programmes. > > I'm running 10.0. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi transcode > > Alguns pacotes nco puderam ser instalados: > > transcode-0.6.12-6plf.i586 (devido a nco satisfazer liba52.so.0) (S/n) s > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi dvdrip > > Alguns pacotes nco puderam ser instalados: > > Video-DVDRip-0.50.18-1plf.i586 (devido estar faltando > > transcode-0.6.12-6plf.i586) > > transcode-0.6.12-6plf.i586 (devido a nco satisfazer liba52.so.0) (S/n) s > > > > Any help appreciated. > > TIA > > ...but did you install a52? My guess is that this library belongs to an app I installed (Gxine?). [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmf -i liba52 vlc:/usr/lib/vlc/codec/liba52_plugin.so vlc:/usr/lib/vlc/demux/liba52sys_plugin.so vlc-plugin-a52:/usr/lib/vlc/audio_filter/liba52tofloat32_plugin.so vlc-plugin-a52:/usr/lib/vlc/audio_filter/liba52tospdif_plugin.so vlc:/usr/lib/vlc/codec/liba52_plugin.so vlc:/usr/lib/vlc/demux/liba52sys_plugin.so vlc-plugin-a52:/usr/lib/vlc/audio_filter/liba52tofloat32_plugin.so vlc-plugin-a52:/usr/lib/vlc/audio_filter/liba52tospdif_plugin.so It must be a conflict, but I think urpmi would handle it, wouldn't it ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I can't install dvdrip
On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 06:44, Josenildo Marques wrote: > Hi. > > I can't install dvdrip or transcode. I am sure the rpm sources are OK > because I have already installed other programmes. > I'm running 10.0. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi transcode > Alguns pacotes nco puderam ser instalados: > transcode-0.6.12-6plf.i586 (devido a nco satisfazer liba52.so.0) (S/n) s > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi dvdrip > Alguns pacotes nco puderam ser instalados: > Video-DVDRip-0.50.18-1plf.i586 (devido estar faltando > transcode-0.6.12-6plf.i586) > transcode-0.6.12-6plf.i586 (devido a nco satisfazer liba52.so.0) (S/n) s > > Any help appreciated. > TIA ...but did you install a52? stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 07:37:48 up 1 day, 16:26, 3 users, load average: 0.08, 0.08, 0.08 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products The haughty do but build castle walls behind which they try to hide their doubts and fears. -Bene Gesserit Axiom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] German Language SPAM
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:14:59 -0400 Bryan Phinney disseminated the following: > Most mail servers don't block at that level. This is where I'm not clear. What is the difference between using a DNSRBL and what you describe below? I thought the DNSRBL's were the results of the reverse DNS checks... > Now, they do block on reverse DNS with failure to obtain an MX record for the > claimed domain. This is what Sourceforge does, so all of my posts to their mailing lists kept spitting back at me. > Once I had a domain name with a DNS that had an MX record, I had very few > problems originating mail. That's where I'm still in the dark. I'm not sure how to set up my own DNS and MX here (I need to configure Bind, no?), and I'm not sure if Zonedit (what I use for my domain name on a dynamic IP) will maintain an MX record for me. I'll have to check on that. Anyhow, when someone does a reverse lookup on my IP, won't it *always* show Sympatico and not my DNS/MX record? Or does mine override Sympatico's? -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 17:12:14 up 15 days, 3:35, 7 users, load average: 0.40, 0.25, 0.16 +++ "Behind every great fortune is a crime." -- Balzac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Shame on Adobe
On Thu, 2004-06-24 at 18:09, Marc Hultquist wrote: > On Thursday, 17 June 2004 16:33, Alastair Fay wrote: > > If you don't like their product, then don't use it - > > just because *you* don't think they "put any effort > > in" - it might not be everyone's opinion. Why post > > such a pointless new-post, flaming a perfectly good > > company, with perfectly good products? They may *not* > > support Linux so much... but so what? How about using > > an alternative? xpdf perhaps? May I remind you, that > > they are the creators of Photoshop - which just > > happened to be what many regard as the best digital > > imaging/manipulation program ever created > > > > Think before you post, and you will gain more respect > > in the community - and what gives you the right to > > have a stab at Adobe? > > Ok, from my personal standpoint, I agree with what you have to say about the > post being pointless, and that it had no real place here on the list. B U T > on the other hand you just made a pointless flame to tell him he made a > pointless flame ? In retrospect these both cancel each other out and now we > can all relax, have a beer and just chill ! ;-) Fay, I can go and flame like you; however, this will not help the situation. What you have said, in my opinion, supports my point. You are saying it is a good company, the company that created the best imaging/manipulation program ever, etc. Bingo, here is the point, an excellent company should make excellent stuff. You would not expect an excellent program from a junk company. I hope you got my point. If Adobe was a junk I would have not posted my the comment at all. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Need a backup script from an EXPERT!!!
On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 00:26, Randall D. Hobbs wrote:
> On Thursday 17 June 2004 08:54 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 23:40, Sergio fernandez wrote:
> > > I am no expert but I think Dantz Retrospect might be able to help you.
> > > Their web site is http://www.dantz.com/ but they charge for the product
> >
> > Nah - I'm just looking for a script - there's a script that lives on the
> > box already - simple - like mine - I might just go so far as to modify
> > the existing script so that it burns to CD for the moment - but I'd like
> > to delete any "redundant" backup kept on the drive that exceeds four
> > weeks...just didn't want to take the time away from my customers (and my
> > making money) to fsck with delving into shell scripting any further than
> > I really have to. Got bills to pay and food to buy.
>
> What type of script is it currently using for the backups? Perl? Bash? Either
> way, here's a simple one liner you can use to remove backups older than 30
> days in a given directory:
>
> find /backups -daystart -mtime 30 -type f -maxdepth 1 -name "Backup*.tar.gz"
> -exec rm -f {} \;
>
> You'll want to put the directory in that it'll search, and change the name to
> fit. You can also change the number of days to keep as well. This is a simple
> yet effective way to remove the older backups. Read up on the find command
> for more control options.
Hmm...didn't think about that - great - much appreciated - getting even
further down the track now - ta mate!
stephen kuhn - proprietor
==
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Re: [newbie] Need a backup script from an EXPERT!!!
On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 00:24, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > I know there is a package to backup to CD - you can try looking on > freshmeat for it. As far as getting rid of old backups, if you use the > date command to date stamp your backup as part of the name, then the > same cron job that creates the backups can get rid of the old ones. > > Something like BNAME=$(date +backup.%d.%m.%y) to genetate the name, and > then somethig like ONAME=$(date -d-5week +backup.%d.%m.%y) to generate > the name of the backup to remove. > > Or if you were realy creative, you could probably modify logrotate to > manage your backups... > > Mikkel Ta, Mikkel - now I'm getting on the right track; and what I'm trying to avoid is the use of a "program" - I want to have a script - I know it can be done, I've dealt with this issue before - but long ago and didn't keep a hard copy of it - and it worked flawlessly... stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 07:12:25 up 1 day, 16:00, 3 users, load average: 0.27, 0.17, 0.07 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products Academicians care, that's who. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] I can't install dvdrip
Hi. I can't install dvdrip or transcode. I am sure the rpm sources are OK because I have already installed other programmes. I'm running 10.0. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi transcode Alguns pacotes não puderam ser instalados: transcode-0.6.12-6plf.i586 (devido a não satisfazer liba52.so.0) (S/n) s [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi dvdrip Alguns pacotes não puderam ser instalados: Video-DVDRip-0.50.18-1plf.i586 (devido estar faltando transcode-0.6.12-6plf.i586) transcode-0.6.12-6plf.i586 (devido a não satisfazer liba52.so.0) (S/n) s Any help appreciated. TIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I can't send e-mails
Em Qui, 2004-06-17 às 04:11, Eric Huff escreveu: > "Josenildo Marques" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Subject: [newbie] I can't send e-mails > > Bwaha! > > I'm sorry, but that reminds me of a Dilbert awhile back. > > "Just email me your problem, and i'll fix it..." The thing is it was based on true stories ;-) > > __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I can't send e-mails
Em Qui, 2004-06-17 às 09:24, robin escreveu: > Josenildo Marques wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I installed 10.0. Installation was as smooth as it could be and I like > > it. > > However, I've got a problem with Evolution: it gives the following > > error message when I try to send an e-mail > > Erro ao executar operação: > > Falhou RCPT TO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: A transação falhou > > > > I can get messages. The only message that got through was one I sent > > to myself. Strange, isn't it? > > > > Any help appreciated. > > TIA > > Are you sure you have SMTP set up correctly? I think it wasn't, but my ISP also changed things and didn't tell me ;-) Hopefully this one will get to the list (fingers crossed). Thanks to all. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] German Language SPAM
On Thursday 17 June 2004 03:07 pm, JoeHill wrote: > Not that I don't know how, but because I'm on a dynamic IP which belongs to > a block of 'consumer' addresses, I end up on DNSRBL's within minutes. > > I guess I pretty much already am running a mailserver (fetchmail, postfix, > procmail), but I still have to use my ISP's SMTP server, so I just don't > consider it really having my own mailserver unless I can reliably *send* > mail from my own machine. Joe, I really don't think that the dynamic IP matters all that much really. I ran a Postfix server off of a dynamic IP for quite a little bit before switching over to static. Most mail servers don't block at that level. Now, they do block on reverse DNS with failure to obtain an MX record for the claimed domain. Once I had a domain name with a DNS that had an MX record, I had very few problems originating mail. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] German Language SPAM
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 23:03:21 +1000 Stephen Kuhn disseminated the following: > > Man, I wish I could run my own mailserver... :-( > > What's so frigging hard about running a mail server, JH? Should I come > over there and bitch slap you? I CAN'T believe you just said that > mate...c'mon...wasso hard about setting up fetchmail and a postmortem, > er, sorry, postfix or sendmail or qmail system? Not that I don't know how, but because I'm on a dynamic IP which belongs to a block of 'consumer' addresses, I end up on DNSRBL's within minutes. I guess I pretty much already am running a mailserver (fetchmail, postfix, procmail), but I still have to use my ISP's SMTP server, so I just don't consider it really having my own mailserver unless I can reliably *send* mail from my own machine. Someday tho'. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 15:02:55 up 15 days, 1:25, 7 users, load average: 0.08, 0.63, 1.08 +++ "Athens built the Acropolis. Corinth was a commercial city, interested in purely materialistic things. Today we admire Athens, visit it, preserve the old temples, yet we hardly ever set foot in Corinth." -- Dr. Harold Urey, Nobel Laureate in chemistry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What port scanning software is in use on the list?
On Thursday 17 June 2004 12:55 pm, Terence Golightly wrote:
> Bryan,
> portsentry.c:1585: error: parse error before "sourceforget"
> portsentry.c:1585: error: stray '\' in program
> portsentry.c:1585:24: missing terminating " character
> make: *** [linux] Error 1
There is an extra carriage return included in the portsentry.c file in the
directory where you are trying to compile. Open up portsentry.c with Kedit,
maximize the window (Important to remove line wrapping mistakes). Then,
Click Go, Line Number, 1585.
Current Line reads:
printf ("Copyright 1997-2003 Craig H. Rowland \n");
Click Save, then make again and it should compile without errors. Now, use
checkinstall to build your RPM and install and you are good to go.
If that doesn't work, let me know what error you get and I will try to help.
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Re: [newbie] boot log?
> On Thursday 17 June 2004 03:07 am, Eric Huff wrote: >> > > I think what would be more helpful than anything is a >> > > /var/log/WTF.log >> > >> > Well, that seemed to go over everybody's head. >> >> ~ $ more /var/log/WTF.log >> /var/log/WTF.log: No such file or directory >> >> WTF?!? >> >> eric > > Eric: > First hit on google for "WTF Linux" (out of 136K hits): > http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27507/ > Seems to be a hot topic -- probably something to do with the 2.6 kernel. > -- cmg Leave it to Stephen to start a hilarious OT thread! It's sometimes hard to tell wtf jokes in eascii: are people asking WTF, or are they asking WTF WTF itself is? And, you might ask, WTF does WTF WTF mean? eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What port scanning software is in use on the list?
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 02:33, John Rye wrote: > See if you can find "portsentry-1.1-3mdk.i586.rpm", it certainly works > well with 9.2, don't know about 10.x. > > Cheers > > John > Thanks John, If my attempts to compile fail, then I'll look harder for it. Terry > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > Terry Golightly ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Pittsburgh, Pa Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-9mdk-i686-up-4GB 12:55:56 up 3 days, 16:50, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.11, 0.08 Nothing shortens a journey so pleasantly as an account of misfortunes at which the hearer is permitted to laugh. -- Quentin Crisp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What port scanning software is in use on the list?
Bryan, Thanks for your reply. Below your reply is my reply with a run of make: On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 06:52, Bryan Phinney wrote: > On Wednesday 16 June 2004 06:57 pm, Terence Golightly wrote: > > List, > > > > I'm thinking about installing portsentry on my box to augment my > > shorewall firewall. I downloaded the gzipped source and got some compile > > errors. Before I try to post to the developer, does anybody know of an > > rpm for that? Is there a better port scanning program? What do yunz out > > there use? > > I am running portsentry on my box now. I might be able to help you get it > compiled properly if you want to talk about the errors that you are getting. [EMAIL PROTECTED] portsentry_beta]$ make linux SYSTYPE=linux Making cc -O -Wall -DLINUX -DSUPPORT_STEALTH -o ./portsentry ./portsentry.c \ ./portsentry_io.c ./portsentry_util.c portsentry.c:1584:11: missing terminating " character portsentry.c: In function `Usage': portsentry.c:1585: error: parse error before "sourceforget" portsentry.c:1585: error: stray '\' in program portsentry.c:1585:24: missing terminating " character make: *** [linux] Error 1 I donwloaded this version of portsentry from sourceforge. Terry Terry Golightly ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Pittsburgh, Pa Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-9mdk-i686-up-4GB 12:53:35 up 3 days, 16:48, 3 users, load average: 0.25, 0.19, 0.10 I hope something GOOD came in the mail today so I have a REASON to live!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] boot log?
On Thursday 17 June 2004 03:07 am, Eric Huff wrote: > > > I think what would be more helpful than anything is a > > > /var/log/WTF.log > > > > Well, that seemed to go over everybody's head. > > ~ $ more /var/log/WTF.log > /var/log/WTF.log: No such file or directory > > > WTF?!? > > eric Eric: First hit on google for "WTF Linux" (out of 136K hits): http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27507/ Seems to be a hot topic -- probably something to do with the 2.6 kernel. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Shame on Adobe
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 00:09, OOzy wrote: I just downloaded Acrobat 5; I was really surprised. It seems that Adobe did not put any effort for the Linux version. Wouldn't it be nice? Then again, you're talking about Adobe - the same company the grudged coming into the PC world from the Mac world - IN TIME they will see a market share for Adobe products on the GNU/linux platform - but until MicroSuck starts to crumble in the marketshare, they'll only give us GNU/linux freaks a "taste" and that's all. BTW, xpdf works faster anyways... Kghostview is also very nice. Sir Robin -- "I'm very into Britney Spears' early work, before she sold out, so mostly her, um, finger painting and macaroni art." Dawn - BtVS Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
OOzy wrote: What is a good practice?? Is it to install programs from source or RPM? It depends (no pun intended) on a number of things, such as your level of expertise, the amount of time you have, whether you are installing a package designed for the distro and version you are using and so on. I install from RPMs when I can, and from source if there is no RPM or I run into trouble. A couple of tips: 1. When installing from a binary RPM, use the urpmi command (not "rpm -i"), as this will try to install any dependencies. Usually it does a pretty good job. 2. When installing from source, use a source RPM rather than a tarball if possible. Compling a source RPM will give you a binary RPM which you install, and this will make sure that things go in the right places and can be uninstalled easily. 3. If you want to install a package for which there is no RPM, you have some time on your hands, and you feel like contributing to the community, make an RPM from it. It's not as easy as just doing configure-make-make install, but it's not rocket science either. Sir Robin -- "I'm very into Britney Spears' early work, before she sold out, so mostly her, um, finger painting and macaroni art." Dawn - BtVS Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] boot log?
> I think what would be more helpful than anything is a > /var/log/WTF.log > >>> > >>>Well, that seemed to go over everybody's head. > >> > >> > >>~ $ more /var/log/WTF.log > >>/var/log/WTF.log: No such file or directory > >> > >> > >>WTF?!? > >> > > > > Expansion not allowed on public website. > Hint - it is along the same lines as RTFM... I realized later that my joke might not make it. I should have spelled out What the fsck?!? :) eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] automatic batch editing of files
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:31:44 -0400 "Bill Shirley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, but in your original post you said "remove". None of > the suggestions you received removed the lines; they just > copied them to a different file. True, but he could just mv the edited file back to the original. > > This is kinda like in the status line of some browers where > it says "Transfering data from http://www.mydomain.com";. It's Sure, 'move' vs. 'copy' it's just that the semantics are different. It reminds me of assembly courses I took in the 80s where the instructor was quick to point out that a MOV instruction didn't go out and physically move the bits from point A to point B, but did a copy. Here, have some left over oxide from my hard disk :). -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] automatic batch editing of files
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 08:40:04 -0500 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > head: +2: No such file or directory I'm getting the same behavior here in 10.0. It seems a more careful reading of the manual page (man head) is needed. Under -n it says that if you negate the # of lines you get all but the last # of lines in the file, rather than the last # lines of the file. You probably then want to use 'head' for the first 17 lines and 'tail' for the last 17. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Cinelerra
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 01:20:05 -0400 Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also have attempted to build 1.2.0 and it is my sincere belief, Yes > there was a gunman in the grassy knoll, that cinelerra-1.2.0 contains There is a config file, but it's hidden in the top-level directory. :) Perhaps I did not choose some of the options correctly. I am not sure how to set them all for a Mandrake system. It does seem to do things a tad bit nonstandardly, for instance it seems to get compiler settings from files inside the source directories (gcc `cat somethingorother` ) but that shouldn't be a big thing. The one assembler diagnostic, along the lines of "NOT SUPPORTED is not supported" is something I'm not sure how to deal with at the moment. It does seem to require nasm rather than gnu 'as' but I think I have that. I will probably try another go at it this weekend to see if I can flush out the avifile-devel dependency issue (I had some avifile headers in /usr/local/include, but that was for a rev that's fairly obsolete, a couple of Mandrake versions ago :). I doubt such a conspiracy exists, however. It's fully open source, the source is on sourceforge. Yes, it's plf for somewhat obvious reasons but anyone can get the source code and compile it, at least in theory. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] German Language SPAM
On Thursday 17 June 2004 08:31 am, Lanman wrote: > For instance, I'm constantly getting people trying (and failing)to > connect to my network from China, and Amsterdam. A quick check at > "arin.net" tells me where it's coming from and allows me to block their > IP's in my firewall. Afterwards, they're just a distant memory. A lot of the China and Amsterdam hack attempts are coming through open proxies. That doesn't mean that it isn't necessary to block the attempts but putting them permanently in a firewall will eventually ban what might become legitimate traffic once the clueless admin figures out how to secure their system. However, Your Server, Your Rules. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sound issue
My e-mail program is Thunderbird and, with Mdk 10, the system bell does not ring when a new message arrives. I have already checked Thunderbird configuration and everything seems OK. I have meanwhile found the solution to my own problem: modprobe pcspkr solves the problem. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Shame on Adobe
On Thursday, 17 June 2004 16:33, Alastair Fay wrote: > If you don't like their product, then don't use it - > just because *you* don't think they "put any effort > in" - it might not be everyone's opinion. Why post > such a pointless new-post, flaming a perfectly good > company, with perfectly good products? They may *not* > support Linux so much... but so what? How about using > an alternative? xpdf perhaps? May I remind you, that > they are the creators of Photoshop - which just > happened to be what many regard as the best digital > imaging/manipulation program ever created > > Think before you post, and you will gain more respect > in the community - and what gives you the right to > have a stab at Adobe? Ok, from my personal standpoint, I agree with what you have to say about the post being pointless, and that it had no real place here on the list. B U T on the other hand you just made a pointless flame to tell him he made a pointless flame ? In retrospect these both cancel each other out and now we can all relax, have a beer and just chill ! ;-) -- Marc Hultquist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Computerkit Systems (Pty) Ltd http://www.cks.co.za (P) +27 11 695 5317 (F) +27 11 312 1408 (C) +27 82 563 2861 Quote: "Chances are that if you do something that required two hands, your brain should be notified in advance" Confidentiality Notice: The above message and all attachments may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from your computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the view of the entity transmitting the message. Computerkit Retail Systems (Pty) Ltd hereby distances itself from and accepts no liability in respect of the unauthorised use of its e-mail facility or the sending of e-mail communications for other than strictly business purposes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Shame on Adobe
On Thursday 17 June 2004 09:33 am, Alastair Fay wrote: > If you don't like their product, then don't use it - > just because *you* don't think they "put any effort > in" - it might not be everyone's opinion. Why post > such a pointless new-post, flaming a perfectly good > company, with perfectly good products? They may *not* > support Linux so much... but so what? How about using > an alternative? xpdf perhaps? May I remind you, that > they are the creators of Photoshop - which just > happened to be what many regard as the best digital > imaging/manipulation program ever created > > Think before you post, and you will gain more respect > in the community - and what gives you the right to > have a stab at Adobe? I have seen much worse. I didn't take it as a "stab" towards anybody. It was an opinion - one which others share as well. No one was saying Adobe should rot due to the fact they didn't make their Linux client better than the Windows version - it was simply a comment "I don't think they lived up to their reputation on this one". Yes, they did create Photoshop, but that has no significance here. That's another application, geared towards another market, on another platform no less. Most die hard Linux users have probably never used it anyway. -- Take care, Randall Hobbs Programmer - System Administrator - Chip Castle Dot Com, Inc. Web Hosting * Programming * Software http://www.chipcastle.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Simple mail server
Stephen Kuhn wrote: I still currently prefer sendmail over postmortem, er, postfix...easier for me - but then again, I've been using sendmail for yonks so it's easier for me - and using Webmin as part of the interface to the program...then again, I don't mind manually editing the /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and recompiling it...besides, so many anti-spam packages work so well with sendmail... stephen kuhn - proprietor I don't know - I find Postfix is easyer to configure then Sendmail. The config files are actualy readable... Though I have to admit is was fun tweeking sendmail.cf files... (I know - modify sendmail.mc, and not sendmail.cf...) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Shame on Adobe
If you don't like their product, then don't use it - just because *you* don't think they "put any effort in" - it might not be everyone's opinion. Why post such a pointless new-post, flaming a perfectly good company, with perfectly good products? They may *not* support Linux so much... but so what? How about using an alternative? xpdf perhaps? May I remind you, that they are the creators of Photoshop - which just happened to be what many regard as the best digital imaging/manipulation program ever created Think before you post, and you will gain more respect in the community - and what gives you the right to have a stab at Adobe? --- OOzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just downloaded Acrobat 5; I was really surprised. > It seems that Adobe > did not put any effort for the Linux version. > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Problem with fortunes, .signature and/or crontab
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RE: [newbie] Problem with fortunes, .signature and/or crontab
Chuck, explicitly run fortune as cron sometimes does not pick up the paths. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck MATTSEN Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 6:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Problem with fortunes, .signature and/or crontab -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Due to an incompatibility between Mozilla Thunderbird's Enigmail encryption extension and the TagZilla tagline extension, I'm dropping TagZilla and going back to using the fortune method. As you can see by the sig (below), there's no fortune currently displaying, and that confuses the heck out of me. I've put my taglines into a %-delimeted file in /usr/share/games/fortunes as a file called myquotes, and have run strfile myquotes to generate the .dat file. That seems fine, near as I can tell. I've got Kcron setup to generate a new .signature file every 5 minutes (I want to change that, too, but need to figure out what else is wrong first) and, indeed, if I manually "run now" with Kcron I get a valid tagline appended to my sig. Each time I run it manually it works just fine. However, after the 5-minute period is up, the signature generated is like the one below (i.e., minus the tagline itself). Maybe I'm just too tired, but I don't see what's wrong here. Here's my file to generate the .signature file for Thunderbird: ~ #bin bash ~ echo "-- " > /home/chuck/.signature ~ echo "Chuck MATTSEN / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Mahnomen, MN / RLU #346519" |> /home/chuck/.signature ~ echo `cat /etc/mandrake-release` kernel "`uname -r`" >> /home/chuck/.signature ~ echo `uptime` >> /home/chuck/.signature ~ echo " " >> /home/chuck/.signature ~ echo "Random Thought/Quote For This Message: " >> /home/chuck/.signature ~ echo " " `fortune /usr/share/games/fortunes/myquotes` >> /home/chuck/.signature If there were something wrong with my Kcron setup, I could see it /not/ changing, but why would it suddenly go blank after the first instance of a tagline until manually "fired up" again? Anyone? TIA. - -- Chuck MATTSEN / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Mahnomen, MN / RLU #346519 Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-9mdk 00:15:00 up 10:26, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.21, 0.18 Random Thought/Quote For This Message: -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAz9nc+qbiwggubBwRAqelAJwIczRie+2R5upfKDT/2VoEQ1u4MACeIAnR SyOSHQ+BkasQU0O3yNiS2fc= =rdsb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] boot log?
Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Thursday 17 June 2004 02:07, Eric Huff wrote: I think what would be more helpful than anything is a /var/log/WTF.log Well, that seemed to go over everybody's head. ~ $ more /var/log/WTF.log /var/log/WTF.log: No such file or directory WTF?!? Expansion not allowed on public website. Hint - it is along the same lines as RTFM... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Need a backup script from an EXPERT!!!
On Thursday 17 June 2004 08:54 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 23:40, Sergio fernandez wrote:
> > I am no expert but I think Dantz Retrospect might be able to help you.
> > Their web site is http://www.dantz.com/ but they charge for the product
>
> Nah - I'm just looking for a script - there's a script that lives on the
> box already - simple - like mine - I might just go so far as to modify
> the existing script so that it burns to CD for the moment - but I'd like
> to delete any "redundant" backup kept on the drive that exceeds four
> weeks...just didn't want to take the time away from my customers (and my
> making money) to fsck with delving into shell scripting any further than
> I really have to. Got bills to pay and food to buy.
What type of script is it currently using for the backups? Perl? Bash? Either
way, here's a simple one liner you can use to remove backups older than 30
days in a given directory:
find /backups -daystart -mtime 30 -type f -maxdepth 1 -name "Backup*.tar.gz"
-exec rm -f {} \;
You'll want to put the directory in that it'll search, and change the name to
fit. You can also change the number of days to keep as well. This is a simple
yet effective way to remove the older backups. Read up on the find command
for more control options.
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Re: [newbie] Need a backup script from an EXPERT!!!
Stephen Kuhn wrote: I've got a client that just "introduced" me to his RH8 linux server - nicely done, very simple, but the orginal "admin" had setup a backup script that backed up stuff weekley TO THE HARD DRIVE - until they had no hard drive space at all (gee, Ralph, that was smart, eh?) Anyways, what I'd like to do is to create a backup to CDRW weekly, and keep four weeks worth of backups on the drive - NOTHING MORE. Previously I've done a very simple script for other customers, but nothing that required "date" or keeping redundant copies and deleting what would be the "fifth" week so that only four are on the HD, one on the CD... (sniffles, gives puppy dog look) I'm not a coder, I build boxes, administer boxes and setup networks...and I'm far from being a bash script master...laugh...yeah...that's cool...but I do need to figure this out as I've tried and well, it keeps screwing me up... HELP! stephen kuhn - proprietor I know there is a package to backup to CD - you can try looking on freshmeat for it. As far as getting rid of old backups, if you use the date command to date stamp your backup as part of the name, then the same cron job that creates the backups can get rid of the old ones. Something like BNAME=$(date +backup.%d.%m.%y) to genetate the name, and then somethig like ONAME=$(date -d-5week +backup.%d.%m.%y) to generate the name of the backup to remove. Or if you were realy creative, you could probably modify logrotate to manage your backups... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Shame on Adobe
On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 00:09, OOzy wrote: > I just downloaded Acrobat 5; I was really surprised. It seems that Adobe > did not put any effort for the Linux version. Wouldn't it be nice? Then again, you're talking about Adobe - the same company the grudged coming into the PC world from the Mac world - IN TIME they will see a market share for Adobe products on the GNU/linux platform - but until MicroSuck starts to crumble in the marketshare, they'll only give us GNU/linux freaks a "taste" and that's all. BTW, xpdf works faster anyways... stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 00:22:05 up 1 day, 9:10, 3 users, load average: 0.12, 0.09, 0.11 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products "We want to create puppets that pull their own strings." -- Ann Marion "Would this make them Marionettes?" -- Jeff Daiell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Proxy
In Konq go to settings then scroll down to proxy, then manually specify proxy settings. Once you have set this up you can add addresses to the bottom half of the screen. Do not put an x in the box as this will reverse what you want so only the addresses in the list the proxy will use. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OOzy Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:26 PM To: Mandrake Subject: RE: [newbie] Proxy On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 19:29, Tony S. Sykes wrote: > You need to enable to proxy to ignore local ip addy's. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OOzy > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:34 PM > To: Mandrake > Subject: [newbie] Proxy > > > For me to go online I have to use a proxy and when I go to 127.0.0.1 it > tells me can't find proxy so and so? > > > > > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have recieved > it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the > information > in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. > The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily > the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst > every > effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it > is > the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. > Business Computer Projects Ltd > BCP House > 151 Charles Street > Stockport > Cheshire > SK1 3JY > Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 > Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 > Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com HOw can I do this with Konquoror > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have recieved it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Shame on Adobe
I just downloaded Acrobat 5; I was really surprised. It seems that Adobe did not put any effort for the Linux version. Maybe, Adobe has a protocol with Microsoft... Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Shame on Adobe
I just downloaded Acrobat 5; I was really surprised. It seems that Adobe did not put any effort for the Linux version. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Need a backup script from an EXPERT!!!
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 23:40, Sergio fernandez wrote: > I am no expert but I think Dantz Retrospect might be able to help you. > Their web site is http://www.dantz.com/ but they charge for the product Nah - I'm just looking for a script - there's a script that lives on the box already - simple - like mine - I might just go so far as to modify the existing script so that it burns to CD for the moment - but I'd like to delete any "redundant" backup kept on the drive that exceeds four weeks...just didn't want to take the time away from my customers (and my making money) to fsck with delving into shell scripting any further than I really have to. Got bills to pay and food to buy. stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 23:52:10 up 1 day, 8:40, 3 users, load average: 0.16, 0.13, 0.17 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products As the system comes up, the component builders will from time to time appear, bearing hot new versions of their pieces -- faster, smaller, more complete, or putatively less buggy. The replacement of a working component by a new version requires the same systematic testing procedure that adding a new component does, although it should require less time, for more complete and efficient test cases will usually be available. - Frederick Brooks Jr., "The Mythical Man Month" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Need a backup script from an EXPERT!!!
I am no expert but I think Dantz Retrospect might be able to help you. Their web site is http://www.dantz.com/ but they charge for the product On 17 Jun 2004, at 13:31, Stephen Kuhn wrote: I've got a client that just "introduced" me to his RH8 linux server - nicely done, very simple, but the orginal "admin" had setup a backup script that backed up stuff weekley TO THE HARD DRIVE - until they had no hard drive space at all (gee, Ralph, that was smart, eh?) Anyways, what I'd like to do is to create a backup to CDRW weekly, and keep four weeks worth of backups on the drive - NOTHING MORE. Previously I've done a very simple script for other customers, but nothing that required "date" or keeping redundant copies and deleting what would be the "fifth" week so that only four are on the HD, one on the CD... (sniffles, gives puppy dog look) I'm not a coder, I build boxes, administer boxes and setup networks...and I'm far from being a bash script master...laugh...yeah...that's cool...but I do need to figure this out as I've tried and well, it keeps screwing me up... HELP! stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 22:21:27 up 1 day, 7:09, 2 users, load average: 0.12, 0.07, 0.07 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products The life of a repo man is always intense. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Sergio Fernandez Senior Technical Support Albion - Internet Solutions for Business Hp Centre of Excellence www.albion.co.uk Authorised AppleCentre Tel: 020 7550 7550 Business Class ISPfax: 020 7550 7551 Confidentiality Notice:- This email is intended only for the addressee. If you have received this email in error you are hereby notified that any use, copying or dissemination of this communication is prohibited as it may contain privileged and/or confidential information. Please telephone us immediately on 020 7550 7550 if you are not the intended recipient and destroy the original message. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Simple mail server
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 03:40:45PM -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Mark Annandale wrote: > >Hi Guys > > > >I recently moved from cable Internet to adsl and am about to lose the > >old cable suppliers smtp services. I have been pondering over setting > >myself up with a simple mail server, using my mandrake box. What I > >require is:- > > > >pop mail for 3 users smtp service for above > > > >I have a dynamically assigned IP address which I believe is not too > >much problem using no-ip.com or similar, however looking at the gumph > >about postfix and sendmail I'm not sure if I've not bitten off more > >than I could chew. > > > >Does anyone have an easier solution for a mail server, or is there an > > extremelly simple how to floating about. > > > >King regards > > > > > >Mark A > > > > > Mark, > Before you do a lot of work setting up a SMPT server, make sure you > are allowed to run a mail server on your ADSL connection. Some ISPs > block incomming port 25 connections to anything but their own mail > servers. Some also block outgoing mail servers, but you may be able to > relay through their mail server. You may have to do this anyway, if the > IP block your ISP uses for dynamic IP address is listed as a dialup IP > block in the SPAM blocking lists. > If you can run a mail server, Postfix is not that bad a mail server to > set up. The default setup, with a couple of minor changes, will > probably work for you. The mail change will be to set up the relay > through your ISPs mail server... I used to use my Mandrake box for a mail server until I realized that ISP's were blocking my mail because its IP is in a range of dynamic IP's. Now I mostly use my ISP's mail accounts and relay through its servers. Once I told postfix to use the ISP for relay, people started getting my mail again. However, I think I still have problems with people who use AOL and excite. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] German Language SPAM
On Thursday 17 June 2004 06:55, Greg Meyer wrote: > Is anybody else on this list getting inundated with German Language spam. The > ip address it is coming from is dynamic and looks like a french isp. Since > some of the from addresses seem familiar, I am thinking that someone > subscribed to newbie, perhaps dual-booting, has their windows partition > infected and is periodically throwing off tons of German Laanguage spam. > Please check you machines if this remotely describes you. > -- > /g > > I have received no german lang. spam. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] German Language SPAM
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 22:51, JoeHill wrote: > You forget to mention the advantages: > > You never have to actually 'download' the spam, and it takes some of the load > off of procmail, etc. > > Plus, doesn't the spammer get a 'bounce'? > > Man, I wish I could run my own mailserver... :-( What's so frigging hard about running a mail server, JH? Should I come over there and bitch slap you? I CAN'T believe you just said that mate...c'mon...wasso hard about setting up fetchmail and a postmortem, er, sorry, postfix or sendmail or qmail system? I'm mind-wrenchingly fun...(if you like to purposefully torture yourself as I've proven) stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 23:00:26 up 1 day, 7:48, 2 users, load average: 1.31, 0.55, 0.25 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products We don't need no education, we don't need no thought control. -- Pink Floyd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly large whinge
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 07:53:11 +0100 Richard Urwin disseminated the following: > What's it like in the Twilight Zone? Well, that tune playing over and over in the background is kind of annoying, but otherwise it's not bad. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 08:53:04 up 14 days, 19:15, 6 users, load average: 0.16, 0.13, 0.06 +++ "Wars such as those which have occurred in Iraq only allow hatred, violence and terror to proliferate." -- Spain's prime minister-elect, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] German Language SPAM
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 08:31:18 -0400 Lanman disseminated the following: > > stephen kuhn - proprietor > > Stephen; If you aren't needing any other forms of communication from > GMX.Net, consider blocking their IP address in your firewall. I've been > getting a lot of crap like that and blocking them from the firewall > seems to do the trick. > > For instance, I'm constantly getting people trying (and failing)to > connect to my network from China, and Amsterdam. A quick check at > "arin.net" tells me where it's coming from and allows me to block their > IP's in my firewall. Afterwards, they're just a distant memory. You forget to mention the advantages: You never have to actually 'download' the spam, and it takes some of the load off of procmail, etc. Plus, doesn't the spammer get a 'bounce'? Man, I wish I could run my own mailserver... :-( -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 08:48:59 up 14 days, 19:11, 6 users, load average: 0.10, 0.13, 0.05 +++ "Apartheid will be dismantled, and its victims will remember those who helped to destroy this evil system. And President Reagan will be judged harshly by history." -- Archbishop Desmond Tutu, after Reagan vetoed a measure by Republicans and Democrats to impose economic sanctions on the government of South Africa Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] German Language SPAM
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 22:31, Lanman wrote: > Stephen; If you aren't needing any other forms of communication from > GMX.Net, consider blocking their IP address in your firewall. I've been > getting a lot of crap like that and blocking them from the firewall > seems to do the trick. > > For instance, I'm constantly getting people trying (and failing)to > connect to my network from China, and Amsterdam. A quick check at > "arin.net" tells me where it's coming from and allows me to block their > IP's in my firewall. Afterwards, they're just a distant memory. > > It might save you a lot of time. > > HTH > > Lanman Er, GMX.NET is one of my longest standing email addresses...and I don't mind getting their "spam reports" - not that I read them - and I don't mind getting their weekly Newsletter - not that I read them either...all I'm saying is that I've got now 7 rbl's setup and they're all free of charge and my spam just got reduced by about 40%... stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 22:41:19 up 1 day, 7:29, 2 users, load average: 0.24, 0.14, 0.09 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products No committee could ever come up with anything as revolutionary as a camel -- anything as practical and as perfectly designed to perform effectively under such difficult conditions. -- Laurence J. Peter Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Need a backup script from an EXPERT!!!
I've got a client that just "introduced" me to his RH8 linux server - nicely done, very simple, but the orginal "admin" had setup a backup script that backed up stuff weekley TO THE HARD DRIVE - until they had no hard drive space at all (gee, Ralph, that was smart, eh?) Anyways, what I'd like to do is to create a backup to CDRW weekly, and keep four weeks worth of backups on the drive - NOTHING MORE. Previously I've done a very simple script for other customers, but nothing that required "date" or keeping redundant copies and deleting what would be the "fifth" week so that only four are on the HD, one on the CD... (sniffles, gives puppy dog look) I'm not a coder, I build boxes, administer boxes and setup networks...and I'm far from being a bash script master...laugh...yeah...that's cool...but I do need to figure this out as I've tried and well, it keeps screwing me up... HELP! stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 22:21:27 up 1 day, 7:09, 2 users, load average: 0.12, 0.07, 0.07 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products The life of a repo man is always intense. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:20:26 +0200 Anders Lind wrote: > You definitely have valid points but one main reason to compile from > source if possible is that the compilation will form after your own > computer and not precompiled package that might suit it The same can be accomplished be either rebuilding the src.rpm or by creating your own rpm from the source. Charles -- There are running jobs. Why don't you go chase them? -- Mandrake Linux 10.0 on BigBoy #184142 Registered Linux user #182463 *http://www.eslrahc.com* 2.6.4-1.tmb.5mdkenterprise -- pgp15Ev9b5Ol2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
Well I have to say in reply to Stephan, I have to be a sick, whacko ;-) because I detest compiling packages from rpm. I would prefer in that case to get a source rpm and recompile it for my specific or the specific computer. Thats why I use source packages, I only really use things like apt-get and urpmi-update to do system wide updates. ;-) -- Marc Hultquist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Computerkit Systems (Pty) Ltd http://www.cks.co.za (P) +27 11 695 5317 (F) +27 11 312 1408 (C) +27 82 563 2861 Quote: "Chances are that if you do something that required two hands, your brain should be notified in advance" Confidentiality Notice: The above message and all attachments may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from your computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the view of the entity transmitting the message. Computerkit Retail Systems (Pty) Ltd hereby distances itself from and accepts no liability in respect of the unauthorised use of its e-mail facility or the sending of e-mail communications for other than strictly business purposes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sound issue
Margot wrote: Should one expect that the reported problems with sound of Mdk 10 will be repaired in further versions? Or is it something structural, not susceptible of being changed? Depends on the type of problem, and where you have reported it. If it is a genuine *bug* in the system, and it has been reported to Anthill (http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/login.php) then it should (eventually!) be fixed. If a bug has only been "reported" on the mailing lists, it is unlikely that it will be fixed - I don't think any Mandrakesoft staff monitor the list, so they won't know the problem exists. On the other hand, if the "problem" is with the user not fully understanding how the system works, the list is the best place to go for help - the staff can only "fix" the software, not the users! Margot, Thanks for your reply. I have just installed Mdk 10 and, regarding the sound, there is only a minor problem, which I shall describe in what follows. My e-mail program is Thunderbird and, with Mdk 10, the system bell does not ring when a new message arrives. I have already checked Thunderbird configuration and everything seems OK. Any ideas? Thanks in advance! Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 09:02:10 +0100 Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For a newbie RPM for sure. > That way you will not have to post when compiling does not work. > > Seriously. While compiling from source can be fun. There is a down side. > > It is difficult to *uninstall* apps compiled from source. You have to preserve > the folder you used for compiling and run 'make uninstall' to get rid of it. > > The second problem is anything you install from source will not appear in the > RPM database and so the system will not know it is there. This can be a > problem if you have compiled a library because urpmi may try to overwrite the > library with an RPM, or you could get into a dependency issue. > > The third problem is that RPMs contain scripts and patches to tune the app for > the Mandrake environment. So for example you will not get a menu entry on > something you compile yourself. > > If you want to compile from source the best way is either to use an app called > checkinstall which will turn the compiled binary into an RPM and install > that, or to compile from a src RPM. You can edit an existing src RPM to use > an updated version of the source tarball quite easily. > You definitely have valid points but one main reason to compile from source if possible is that the compilation will form after your own computer and not precompiled package that might suit it /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 17:25, Anders Lind wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:12:44 +0300 > OOzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What is a good practice?? Is it to install programs from source or RPM? > > It is up to you, personally I prefer to install from source if possible > > /Anders At least when installing from source, the binary built is built for YOUR system and no one else's...hence, runs better. stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 20:20:06 up 1 day, 5:08, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.17, 0.10 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products Visit beautiful Vergas, Minnesota. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 17:12, OOzy wrote: > What is a good practice?? Is it to install programs from source or RPM? If you're a noobie, RPM. If you're a wacko, sicko geek, source. stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 20:19:28 up 1 day, 5:07, 2 users, load average: 0.25, 0.19, 0.11 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products How's it going in those MODULAR LOVE UNITS?? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2 to 10.0: Upgrade or fresh install?
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 13:54, Anguo wrote: > Hello, > > I have 9.2 which is fairly customized and I don't really > want to loose all this with a fresh 10.0 install. I WILL > back up and make notes on the most important stuff I have > in /usr and /var that would be lost during a reformating of > the drive, but a flawless upgrade would make many things > easier. > > Have any of you attempted to upgrade from 9.2 to 10.0 > (powerpack/official)? > How did it go? > > Any reasons why I should consider doing a fresh install > instead? > > thanks, > > Anguo As a test of upgrade path, my girlfriend first installed 9.1 and customised it, then upgraded to 9.2. Coolbeans. Worked with minor tweaks and twangs. Customised it further, then upgraded to 10.0. Only issue was a video driver issue and now she can't run VMWare - which I haven't taken the time to look at yet...other than that, seemed to work alright and I might have to go that route. stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 20:13:23 up 1 day, 5:01, 2 users, load average: 0.15, 0.17, 0.10 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products I despise the pleasure of pleasing people whom I despise. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
On Thursday 17 June 2004 02:12, OOzy wrote: > What is a good practice?? Is it to install programs from source or RPM? > > > Guess it depends on how much pain you want to go through or how good you are as a linux gru. For myself its rpm by a long shot. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Simple mail server
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 06:08, Mark Annandale wrote: > Hi Guys > > I recently moved from cable Internet to adsl and am about to lose the old > cable suppliers smtp services. I have been pondering over setting myself up > with a simple mail server, using my mandrake box. What I require is:- > > pop mail for 3 users > smtp service for above > > I have a dynamically assigned IP address which I believe is not too much > problem using no-ip.com or similar, however looking at the gumph about > postfix and sendmail I'm not sure if I've not bitten off more than I could > chew. > > Does anyone have an easier solution for a mail server, or is there an > extremelly simple how to floating about. > > King regards > > > Mark A I still currently prefer sendmail over postmortem, er, postfix...easier for me - but then again, I've been using sendmail for yonks so it's easier for me - and using Webmin as part of the interface to the program...then again, I don't mind manually editing the /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and recompiling it...besides, so many anti-spam packages work so well with sendmail... stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- 20:06:16 up 1 day, 4:54, 2 users, load average: 0.06, 0.03, 0.04 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- This email is virus-free because we don't use Microsoft products Many phenomena - wars, plagues, sudden audits - have been advanced as evidence for the hidden hand of Satan in the affairs of Man, but whenever students of demonology get together the M25 London orbital motorway is generally agreed to be among the top contenders for exhibit A. -- (Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] boot log?
On Thursday 17 June 2004 02:07, Eric Huff wrote: > > > I think what would be more helpful than anything is a > > > /var/log/WTF.log > > > > Well, that seemed to go over everybody's head. > > > ~ $ more /var/log/WTF.log > /var/log/WTF.log: No such file or directory > > > WTF?!? > Expansion not allowed on public website. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] burning an iso
> > Aron, I don't trust k3b. > > Use cdrecord: > > cdrecord -v -eject -device=ATA:1,0,0 -data -dao cdimage.iso > I also do not have too much faith in k3b. XCDRoast is very nice. QingHua Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
On Thursday 17 Jun 2004 08:12, OOzy wrote: > What is a good practice?? Is it to install programs from source or RPM? For a newbie RPM for sure. That way you will not have to post when compiling does not work. Seriously. While compiling from source can be fun. There is a down side. It is difficult to *uninstall* apps compiled from source. You have to preserve the folder you used for compiling and run 'make uninstall' to get rid of it. The second problem is anything you install from source will not appear in the RPM database and so the system will not know it is there. This can be a problem if you have compiled a library because urpmi may try to overwrite the library with an RPM, or you could get into a dependency issue. The third problem is that RPMs contain scripts and patches to tune the app for the Mandrake environment. So for example you will not get a menu entry on something you compile yourself. If you want to compile from source the best way is either to use an app called checkinstall which will turn the compiled binary into an RPM and install that, or to compile from a src RPM. You can edit an existing src RPM to use an updated version of the source tarball quite easily. There is a guide to compiling src RPMs here http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/RpmHowTo derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Scanner
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:04:54 -0400 John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a Mustek 1200 UB scanner. Loaded it with no problems. However, > every time I try to use it with The Gimp, the Gimp 2 or XSane it get the > following message: > > Failed to open device 'mustek_usb: libusb: 001: 002': Error during > device I/O. > > The only way it will pick it up is if I restart my computer each time I > want to use it. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Debbie > > Hi Debbie, This is just a guess but you might find it will work with Vuescan. My Canon would not work with sane but runs properly with Vuescan. You will need to download and install it. Cheers John Montgomery Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT/semi-lenghty: Any advice for a newbie programmer?
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:06:28 -0400 Marv Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, everyone. I realize that this isn't a developer's list, but I get > the sense that there are more than a few developers here, and some of > the sharpest people I've yet encountered online. I'm looking for some > sage wisdom. ;) > Hi Marv Long before the last ice age, I used to program in Fortran and PDP Assembler. Recently I have been fooling around with several languages and if I were to do serious programming again, I would choose Python without a moment of hesitation. Many good books and tutorials available and the "tutor" mailing list is the most helpful group of people I have met. John Montgomery Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Read Linux partition from WinXP
proprietary ($30), but it works: www.mount-everything.com On Thursday 17 June 2004 03:33 am, OOzy wrote: > Is there a Windows program that reads my USB Linux Partition from WinXP? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
Yup I do have to agree with you on that point. But then again when I need to upgrade minor packages I usually do it from source, but as i always say, everybody to their own. -- Marc Hultquist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Computerkit Systems (Pty) Ltd http://www.cks.co.za (P) +27 11 695 5317 (F) +27 11 312 1408 (C) +27 82 563 2861 Quote: "Chances are that if you do something that required two hands, your brain should be notified in advance" Confidentiality Notice: The above message and all attachments may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from your computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the view of the entity transmitting the message. Computerkit Retail Systems (Pty) Ltd hereby distances itself from and accepts no liability in respect of the unauthorised use of its e-mail facility or the sending of e-mail communications for other than strictly business purposes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:10:08 +0200 Marc Hultquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have never once had a problem with apt-get and dependencies. apt-get > install packagename and i have _never_ had a problem :p I had huge issues > with the port system though when for example installing exim :\ Source > compiling came into play ;-) OK; I have never had that problem with any packages the one thing though that can be a pain is for example now that I am upgrading Firefox I have to upgrade a lot of other stuff as well along the way /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
I have never once had a problem with apt-get and dependencies. apt-get install packagename and i have _never_ had a problem :p I had huge issues with the port system though when for example installing exim :\ Source compiling came into play ;-) -- Marc Hultquist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Computerkit Systems (Pty) Ltd http://www.cks.co.za (P) +27 11 695 5317 (F) +27 11 312 1408 (C) +27 82 563 2861 Quote: "Chances are that if you do something that required two hands, your brain should be notified in advance" Confidentiality Notice: The above message and all attachments may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from your computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the view of the entity transmitting the message. Computerkit Retail Systems (Pty) Ltd hereby distances itself from and accepts no liability in respect of the unauthorised use of its e-mail facility or the sending of e-mail communications for other than strictly business purposes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:53:13 +0200 Marc Hultquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > apt-get ;-) ! I think personally apt-get is miles ahead of the port > system on freebsd. And I think the other way around, apt-get is great, way better then RPM, but still you can end up in dependcy hell /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
> The ports system downloads, compiles, satisfies dependencies and installs > all with the command make install apt-get ;-) ! I think personally apt-get is miles ahead of the port system on freebsd. -- Marc Hultquist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Computerkit Systems (Pty) Ltd http://www.cks.co.za (P) +27 11 695 5317 (F) +27 11 312 1408 (C) +27 82 563 2861 Quote: "Chances are that if you do something that required two hands, your brain should be notified in advance" Confidentiality Notice: The above message and all attachments may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from your computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the view of the entity transmitting the message. Computerkit Retail Systems (Pty) Ltd hereby distances itself from and accepts no liability in respect of the unauthorised use of its e-mail facility or the sending of e-mail communications for other than strictly business purposes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:00:36 -0700 Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I install from rpm ...untill it dosen't work thern I install from source Well, it is a matter of personal preference, IMO rpm is inferior to for example FreeBSD portsystem as I have expressed before on a few occassions, let me explain why: The ports system downloads, compiles, satisfies dependencies and installs all with the command make install /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Adding an item to the KDE menu
On Wednesday 16 June 2004 14:16, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Wednesday 16 June 2004 20:18, OOzy wrote: > > I removed my gnuplot 3.7 which was shown under > > application|science and installed ver 4.0. How can I add it to > > the application|science? > > If you installed it to - for example - /opt , open the menu editor > by right-clicking the K-star (assuming you are in KDE), browse to > application|science and fill in the path to Gnuplot > (/opt/gnuplot ?) executable. Save and exit. > > Kaj Haulrich. > -- > * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * >* http://www.haulrich.net * > * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * > > An easyer way for me, is to click on the welcome icon, click on configuration tools, put in root password, click on systems, click on menu, ckick on system menus, click on save. This will update all your menus. I do it whenever I install a new program. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
On Thursday 17 June 2004 12:25 am, Anders Lind wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:12:44 +0300 > > OOzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is a good practice?? Is it to install programs from source or RPM? > > It is up to you, personally I prefer to install from source if possible I install from rpm ...untill it dosen't work thern I install from source i'm lazy > > /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Read Linux partition from WinXP
Dnia czw 17. czerwca 2004 09:33, OOzy napisał: > Is there a Windows program that reads my USB Linux Partition from WinXP? There's a good plugin for total commander (if you're using it) to read Ext2 (and Ext3) partitions, though it's read-only. http://ghisler.fileburst.com/fsplugins/ex2fs.zip Cezary Morga Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] burning an iso
On Wednesday 16 June 2004 08:46 pm, David E. Fox wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:46:15 -0700 > > Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > for some reason k3b burned (10 and onlyb one cd now it won't burn any > > i have 10.0 official and ned to put it on cd so I can set up my new > > box HELP! > > Aron, I don't trust k3b. > > Use cdrecord: > > cdrecord -v -eject -device=ATA:1,0,0 -data -dao cdimage.iso > > (Hint: from my experience, -dao goes with -data, -pad with -audio). > > You may need to adjust the device settings. > > If you are up give me a call. I have 10.0s on CD but they aren't > "official" more like CE. Thanks saved and still trying to get 10.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Read Linux partition from WinXP
Is there a Windows program that reads my USB Linux Partition from WinXP? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:12:44 +0300 OOzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is a good practice?? Is it to install programs from source or RPM? It is up to you, personally I prefer to install from source if possible /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good Practice
On Thursday, 17 June 2004 09:12, OOzy wrote: > What is a good practice?? Is it to install programs from source or RPM? I personally feel its really up to the specific person, some people like installing from source, and some like installing from rpm. I personally like installing from source, however my Boss likes installing from rpm ! So at the end of the day its really up to you. -- Marc Hultquist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Computerkit Systems (Pty) Ltd http://www.cks.co.za (P) +27 11 695 5317 (F) +27 11 312 1408 (C) +27 82 563 2861 Quote: "Chances are that if you do something that required two hands, your brain should be notified in advance" Confidentiality Notice: The above message and all attachments may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from your computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the view of the entity transmitting the message. Computerkit Retail Systems (Pty) Ltd hereby distances itself from and accepts no liability in respect of the unauthorised use of its e-mail facility or the sending of e-mail communications for other than strictly business purposes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Good Practice
What is a good practice?? Is it to install programs from source or RPM? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I can't send e-mails
"Josenildo Marques" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Subject: [newbie] I can't send e-mails Bwaha! I'm sorry, but that reminds me of a Dilbert awhile back. "Just email me your problem, and i'll fix it..." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] boot log?
> > I think what would be more helpful than anything is a > > /var/log/WTF.log > > Well, that seemed to go over everybody's head. ~ $ more /var/log/WTF.log /var/log/WTF.log: No such file or directory WTF?!? eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
