Re: [newbie] Quick question
Dnia pią 25. czerwca 2004 05:50, Teilhard Knight napisał: > Is the so called parallel port "LPT1" in the Windows world the parallel > port "0" or "1" in Linux? it's lp0... -- Cezary Morga ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) GG# 169903 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
Здравствуйте, JoeHill. Вы писали 25 июня 2004 г., 0:19:50: J> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:47:38 +0300 J> maxxik disseminated the following: >> Hi ppls ! >> >> http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1135&aid=2 >> >> what do you think about it ? ) dont you want to support out favorite >> distributive ? ) >> >> PS sorry for offtopic ... J> I'm not so concerned about the offtopic, but the link you posted seems to J> automatically enter a vote for Gentoo. o ... i'm so SORRY because i've got this link by e-mail ^( and i dont expect so much confuse ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] concurrents ... i love mandrake maxxik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] how to make k3b to use generic-mmc driver
On Thursday 24 June 2004 07:54 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote: | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Hi all, | I want to copy cd (data) using k3b. But it failed with unrecognize driver, | try using generic-mmc. So, I googled and they said to specify k3b to use | it. Some said that I should run k3bsetup, but, in step 3, I can't modify | the parameter of the driver. How do I specify it? | I can't remember exactly where it is, but there is a drop down menu that has it listed and you can change the default driver when you run k3b setup. Incidentally Derek Jennings has a fine "how to" for k3b setup. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/k3b.html e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
FW: [newbie] can not go through the NAT router
thank you for your answer. first,I use the dhcp to get ip address; seond, the resovl.conf now is: nameserver 192.168.2.1// this is ip of router search localhost It is a great idea to use another profile for home.I will try. But I was still puzzled.which part the route changed except the resolv.conf? could you give me a list of setting file of this problem? thank you! James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikkel L. Ellertson Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 1:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] can not go through the NAT router xin fei wrote: > I got a weird problem. I install a md10 in my dell notebook.It can > brower the internet at home through a SMC NAT router.but after I bring > it to my office and visit internet through another Router, it did not > work when I back home.I can reach the router but can not go through > it. I didnot change any default setting. I can make sure the router at > home is work. Does it means MD10 change the route set by it self? how > can I change it back? thanks a lot! > > james > Are you using DHCP to set the IP address of the Linux box? What does "cat /etc/resolv.conf" give for an output? Is the problem that you can not reach the Internet at all, or that you can only reach sites if you use the IP address instead of the name? (If you do not know how to do this, the answer to the question above may tell us.) If you are using DHCP to set the IP address, then Linux will change the route, and the name servers based on the information it gets from the DHCP server. (Probably the router.) It should change again when connecting to a different network. But it is possible that one network provides more information then the other, and so not everything changed back the way it should. (Net Profiles can help here - you can have one profile for home, and one for work.) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] can not go through the NAT router
xin fei wrote: > I got a weird problem. I install a md10 in my dell notebook.It can > brower the internet at home through a SMC NAT router.but after I > bring it to my office and visit internet through another Router, it > did not work when I back home.I can reach the router but can not go > through it. I didnot change any default setting. I can make sure the > router at home is work. Does it means MD10 change the route set by it > self? how can I change it back? thanks a lot! > > james > Are you using DHCP to set the IP address of the Linux box? What does "cat /etc/resolv.conf" give for an output? Is the problem that you can not reach the Internet at all, or that you can only reach sites if you use the IP address instead of the name? (If you do not know how to do this, the answer to the question above may tell us.) If you are using DHCP to set the IP address, then Linux will change the route, and the name servers based on the information it gets from the DHCP server. (Probably the router.) It should change again when connecting to a different network. But it is possible that one network provides more information then the other, and so not everything changed back the way it should. (Net Profiles can help here - you can have one profile for home, and one for work.) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:19:23 -0400 Guy Rouillier wrote: > > No need for guesswork, the rules are pretty simple: > > (1) Each SCSI device must have a unique ID. This is set by jumpers, > usually on the back of the drive, but sometimes on the circuit board. > I have BusLogic, and it usually sets itself up for the highest SCSI ID > (7 for narrow, 15 for wide). That is configurable but there really is > no reason to do so. > > (2) The easiest thing to do is to configure your boot drive as SCSI ID > 0. Some OSes require it, others prefer it, still others don't care. > Again, this is usually configurable in the SCSI BIOS, but you'll save > yourself some potential grief by just setting it to zero. > > (3) Each end of the cable must be terminated. Unless you have > external devices, the controller is considered one end of the cable, > and usually automatically terminates itself. Again, that is > configurable in the SCSI BIOS. The other end of the cable will be > attached to one of your drives. The drive on the end of the cable > must be terminated, all other drives must NOT be terminated. > Termination is typically accomplished either by a jumper or by a > special terminator insert with a bunch of pins sticking out of it. > > That's it. Not too bad, right? Nah, it was pretty easy now that you have explained it too me. Thanks for the details. Now lets hope the installation goes without a hitch. -- Job Evers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] can not go through the NAT router
I got a weird problem. I install a md10 in my dell notebook.It can brower the internet at home through a SMC NAT router.but after I bring it to my office and visit internet through another Router, it did not work when I back home.I can reach the router but can not go through it. I didnot change any default setting. I can make sure the router at home is work. Does it means MD10 change the route set by it self? how can I change it back? thanks a lot! james _ 与世界各地的朋友进行交流，免费下载 MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com/cn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive
Guy Rouillier wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:30:35 -0500 Job Evers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the advice. I jiggled some of the cables around and > eventually found a combination that worked for at least one of the > drives. At least I know it works. I will keep messing around with > settings, relying upon trial and error until I can get both drives > recognized and working. No need for guesswork, the rules are pretty simple: (1) Each SCSI device must have a unique ID. This is set by jumpers, usually on the back of the drive, but sometimes on the circuit board. I have BusLogic, and it usually sets itself up for the highest SCSI ID (7 for narrow, 15 for wide). That is configurable but there really is no reason to do so. (2) The easiest thing to do is to configure your boot drive as SCSI ID 0. Some OSes require it, others prefer it, still others don't care. Again, this is usually configurable in the SCSI BIOS, but you'll save yourself some potential grief by just setting it to zero. (3) Each end of the cable must be terminated. Unless you have external devices, the controller is considered one end of the cable, and usually automatically terminates itself. Again, that is configurable in the SCSI BIOS. The other end of the cable will be attached to one of your drives. The drive on the end of the cable must be terminated, all other drives must NOT be terminated. Termination is typically accomplished either by a jumper or by a special terminator insert with a bunch of pins sticking out of it. That's it. Not too bad, right? A couple of things. The drive at the end of the cable is not terminated if you have a cable with a built-in terminator, (I have a couple of these.) or you use a terminator that plugs into the last connector of the cable. (I have seen them, but I do not own one.) You also need something on the cable configured to provide termination power. this is usually the last drive, but some controller boards also have a jumper for it. (And a jumper to get/provide termination power to/from the cable.) The special terminator insert is actually a resister pack. There may a dot on one end to indicate pin 1, depending on how the pack is wired. Putting that type in backwards causes strange errors. There are also some other jumper setting on the drive, and in the BIOS that should match, but we can get into them if you run into more problems... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] For all the peeps in TO
On Thursday 24 June 2004 04:37 pm, JoeHill wrote: > Woot! > > "Toronto will become home this weekend to what's being touted as the first > retail computer store devoted exclusively to Linux-based products." > > Don't know how accurate the 'first' part is, but it's great news > nonetheless! > > http://tinyurl.com/3cesu That'sc cool I wish them the best. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On Thursday 24 June 2004 04:16 pm, Amy wrote: > JoeHill wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:49:59 -0700 > > > > Amy disseminated the following: > >>>No flashing or offensively bold text, but I figured it was enough to > >>> point out which distribution you were voting for. Sorry if you felt > >>> misled, for whatever reason... > >> > >>You know, I could get offended that you're implying I'm stupid because > >>you assume I haven't been reading the posting. Just because I didn't > >>send off a post right away when I read the first message in the thread > >>doesn't mean I didn't read that one before all the other posting > >>happened on the list. > >> > >>I has assumed that maybe I'd done something wrong, because I had thought > >>that this list was safe and friendly and therefore I didn't have to > >>watch out for underhanded idiots who'd drop links that aren't what they > >>say they are. > >> > >>I suppose that makes me the idiot to try to make sure I hadn't done > >>something stupid before crying foul on someone who's posted to a list > >>I'd otherwise gotten a good impression of? And it makes me an idiot > >>because I couldn't read the messages that hadn't been posted yet at the > >>time I read the first message? > > > > ...take a deeep breath. He was *apologizing*. > > > > Sheesh. > > I'm sorry if I misread the tone of his whole response, but then I'm used > to people who use heavy sarcasm and often when an apology like that > follows directly after a correction which is phrased in such a manner as > to includes phrases like "...if you're intelligent enough to..." the > apology is usually a very sarcastic one and means absolutely nothing. > > So that's how his response read to me. Perhaps I've just been corrupted > by too much sarcasm, and if that's the case then I'm in the wrong, and > for that I'll apologize. You guys gotta learn OTlist Sacrism #scarcism mode on /#scarcism mode off simple Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On Thursday 24 June 2004 03:25 pm, Amy wrote: > JoeHill wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:14:33 -0500 > > > > Randall D. Hobbs disseminated the following: > >>>I'm not so concerned about the offtopic, but the link you posted seems > >>> to automatically enter a vote for Gentoo. > >> > >>If you want to vote for Mandrake Linux, this link will do it: > >> > >>http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1135§ion=index&aid=7 > > > > ...did better than that: > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=189893 > > Ah yes, the ol' lower yourself to their level to make up for the wrong > they've done. *shrugs* Oh well, it is ~just~ a /. poll. I'm just annoyed > that I ended up voting for a distribution I've never even run! > > Gotta love stupid human tricks... Point is the poll as all internet polls is subject to manulipation. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] For all the peeps in TO
Woot! "Toronto will become home this weekend to what's being touted as the first retail computer store devoted exclusively to Linux-based products." Don't know how accurate the 'first' part is, but it's great news nonetheless! http://tinyurl.com/3cesu -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 19:34:34 up 7 days, 58 min, 7 users, load average: 1.29, 1.40, 1.42 +++ "If Stephen Harper was prime minister, Canadian soldiers would be coming home from Iraq in body bags." -- Keith Martin, Former Conservative Party Member Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:16:31 -0700 Amy disseminated the following: > So that's how his response read to me. Perhaps I've just been corrupted > by too much sarcasm, and if that's the case then I'm in the wrong, and > for that I'll apologize. ROFL! No more apologies! Make it stop! -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 19:26:59 up 7 days, 50 min, 7 users, load average: 1.72, 1.65, 1.49 +++ "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:04:07 -0700 Amy disseminated the following: > >>Ah yes, the ol' lower yourself to their level to make up for the wrong > >>they've done. > > > > > > Oh here we go, the voice of reason. Come on, it's just a silly unscientific > > poll, and no one really gives a rat's ass how the poll comes out anyhow. > > Thus my "Oh well, it is ~just~ a /. poll." comment which followed that > one directly. ^_^ ya, I gotcha. The hilarious part for me was the disclaimer *clearly stated*: "Don't complain about lack of options. You've got to pick a few when you do multiple choice. Those are the breaks." ...and what's the first post? "Mac option?" Shows you the level of intelligence of people who live at /., it's not even a Linux distro :-D -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 19:21:32 up 7 days, 45 min, 7 users, load average: 1.54, 1.40, 1.39 +++ "One of the most dangerous errors of our time is the belief that human beings are uniquely violent animals, barely restrained from committing atrocities on each other by the constraints of ethics, religion, and the state." -- Eric S. Raymond Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:49:59 -0700 Amy disseminated the following: No flashing or offensively bold text, but I figured it was enough to point out which distribution you were voting for. Sorry if you felt misled, for whatever reason... You know, I could get offended that you're implying I'm stupid because you assume I haven't been reading the posting. Just because I didn't send off a post right away when I read the first message in the thread doesn't mean I didn't read that one before all the other posting happened on the list. I has assumed that maybe I'd done something wrong, because I had thought that this list was safe and friendly and therefore I didn't have to watch out for underhanded idiots who'd drop links that aren't what they say they are. I suppose that makes me the idiot to try to make sure I hadn't done something stupid before crying foul on someone who's posted to a list I'd otherwise gotten a good impression of? And it makes me an idiot because I couldn't read the messages that hadn't been posted yet at the time I read the first message? ...take a deeep breath. He was *apologizing*. Sheesh. I'm sorry if I misread the tone of his whole response, but then I'm used to people who use heavy sarcasm and often when an apology like that follows directly after a correction which is phrased in such a manner as to includes phrases like "...if you're intelligent enough to..." the apology is usually a very sarcastic one and means absolutely nothing. So that's how his response read to me. Perhaps I've just been corrupted by too much sarcasm, and if that's the case then I'm in the wrong, and for that I'll apologize. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:49:59 -0700 Amy disseminated the following: > > No flashing or offensively bold text, but I figured it was enough to point > > out which distribution you were voting for. Sorry if you felt misled, for > > whatever reason... > > You know, I could get offended that you're implying I'm stupid because > you assume I haven't been reading the posting. Just because I didn't > send off a post right away when I read the first message in the thread > doesn't mean I didn't read that one before all the other posting > happened on the list. > > I has assumed that maybe I'd done something wrong, because I had thought > that this list was safe and friendly and therefore I didn't have to > watch out for underhanded idiots who'd drop links that aren't what they > say they are. > > I suppose that makes me the idiot to try to make sure I hadn't done > something stupid before crying foul on someone who's posted to a list > I'd otherwise gotten a good impression of? And it makes me an idiot > because I couldn't read the messages that hadn't been posted yet at the > time I read the first message? ...take a deeep breath. He was *apologizing*. Sheesh. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 19:02:50 up 7 days, 26 min, 7 users, load average: 1.86, 1.67, 1.50 +++ "Superstition, idolatry, and hypocrisy have ample wages, but truth goes a-begging." -- Martin Luther Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:25:54 -0700 Amy disseminated the following: Ah yes, the ol' lower yourself to their level to make up for the wrong they've done. Oh here we go, the voice of reason. Come on, it's just a silly unscientific poll, and no one really gives a rat's ass how the poll comes out anyhow. Thus my "Oh well, it is ~just~ a /. poll." comment which followed that one directly. ^_^ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:25:54 -0700 Amy disseminated the following: > Ah yes, the ol' lower yourself to their level to make up for the wrong > they've done. Oh here we go, the voice of reason. Come on, it's just a silly unscientific poll, and no one really gives a rat's ass how the poll comes out anyhow. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 18:59:02 up 7 days, 22 min, 7 users, load average: 1.47, 1.36, 1.38 +++ "One of the most dangerous errors of our time is the belief that human beings are uniquely violent animals, barely restrained from committing atrocities on each other by the constraints of ethics, religion, and the state." -- Eric S. Raymond Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On Thursday 24 June 2004 05:49 pm, Amy wrote: > You know, I could get offended that you're implying I'm stupid because > you assume I haven't been reading the posting. Just because I didn't > send off a post right away when I read the first message in the thread > doesn't mean I didn't read that one before all the other posting > happened on the list. > > I has assumed that maybe I'd done something wrong, because I had thought > that this list was safe and friendly and therefore I didn't have to > watch out for underhanded idiots who'd drop links that aren't what they > say they are. > > I suppose that makes me the idiot to try to make sure I hadn't done > something stupid before crying foul on someone who's posted to a list > I'd otherwise gotten a good impression of? And it makes me an idiot > because I couldn't read the messages that hadn't been posted yet at the > time I read the first message? OK, I do apologize... I was the one that didn't fully read your post (and understand it). In the mad rush of things, I had thought you were responding to my post, so I was totally in the wrong. I will slow down next time and try to read what's going on, instead of rushing through the posts and trying to do 10 things at once. -- Take care, Randall Hobbs Programmer - System Administrator - Chip Castle Dot Com, Inc. Web Hosting * Programming * Software http://www.chipcastle.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
Randall D. Hobbs wrote: On Thursday 24 June 2004 05:25 pm, Amy wrote: Ah yes, the ol' lower yourself to their level to make up for the wrong they've done. *shrugs* Oh well, it is ~just~ a /. poll. I'm just annoyed that I ended up voting for a distribution I've never even run! Gotta love stupid human tricks... Ah yes, but if you're intelligent enough to read the posting then you'll KNOW who you're voting for with my post... I shall repost the relevant information so you can see it yet again: If you want to vote for Mandrake Linux, this link will do it: No flashing or offensively bold text, but I figured it was enough to point out which distribution you were voting for. Sorry if you felt misled, for whatever reason... You know, I could get offended that you're implying I'm stupid because you assume I haven't been reading the posting. Just because I didn't send off a post right away when I read the first message in the thread doesn't mean I didn't read that one before all the other posting happened on the list. I has assumed that maybe I'd done something wrong, because I had thought that this list was safe and friendly and therefore I didn't have to watch out for underhanded idiots who'd drop links that aren't what they say they are. I suppose that makes me the idiot to try to make sure I hadn't done something stupid before crying foul on someone who's posted to a list I'd otherwise gotten a good impression of? And it makes me an idiot because I couldn't read the messages that hadn't been posted yet at the time I read the first message? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On Thursday 24 June 2004 05:33 pm, John Drouhard wrote: > Looks like they already figured it out and posted the correct link for > gentoo Well it sorta' hits me as funny, as they had to post the "cheating" link to get it ahead. I would assume that that means they don't have enough faith in their "favorite" operating system to win on its own, either that or Gentoo's fanbase must be comprised by quite a few teenagers who think that's the way to fix the polls... -- Take care, Randall Hobbs Programmer - System Administrator - Chip Castle Dot Com, Inc. Web Hosting * Programming * Software http://www.chipcastle.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On Thursday 24 June 2004 05:25 pm, Amy wrote: > Ah yes, the ol' lower yourself to their level to make up for the wrong > they've done. *shrugs* Oh well, it is ~just~ a /. poll. I'm just annoyed > that I ended up voting for a distribution I've never even run! > > Gotta love stupid human tricks... Ah yes, but if you're intelligent enough to read the posting then you'll KNOW who you're voting for with my post... I shall repost the relevant information so you can see it yet again: >>If you want to vote for Mandrake Linux, this link will do it: No flashing or offensively bold text, but I figured it was enough to point out which distribution you were voting for. Sorry if you felt misled, for whatever reason... -- Take care, Randall Hobbs Programmer - System Administrator - Chip Castle Dot Com, Inc. Web Hosting * Programming * Software http://www.chipcastle.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On June 24, 2004 15:19, JoeHill wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:47:38 +0300 > > maxxik disseminated the following: > > Hi ppls ! > > > > http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1135&aid=2 > > > > what do you think about it ? ) dont you want to support out favorite > > distributive ? ) > > > > PS sorry for offtopic ... > > I'm not so concerned about the offtopic, but the link you posted seems to > automatically enter a vote for Gentoo. Is that what happened? I went to vote and got told I had already voted. Doh! The scumbag scammed me! Just can't let your guard down, even on a friendly list like this. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:14:33 -0500 Randall D. Hobbs disseminated the following: I'm not so concerned about the offtopic, but the link you posted seems to automatically enter a vote for Gentoo. If you want to vote for Mandrake Linux, this link will do it: http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1135§ion=index&aid=7 ...did better than that: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=189893 Looks like they already figured it out and posted the correct link for gentoo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
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Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:14:33 -0500 Randall D. Hobbs disseminated the following: I'm not so concerned about the offtopic, but the link you posted seems to automatically enter a vote for Gentoo. If you want to vote for Mandrake Linux, this link will do it: http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1135§ion=index&aid=7 ...did better than that: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=189893 Ah yes, the ol' lower yourself to their level to make up for the wrong they've done. *shrugs* Oh well, it is ~just~ a /. poll. I'm just annoyed that I ended up voting for a distribution I've never even run! Gotta love stupid human tricks... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:14:33 -0500 Randall D. Hobbs disseminated the following: > > I'm not so concerned about the offtopic, but the link you posted seems to > > automatically enter a vote for Gentoo. > > If you want to vote for Mandrake Linux, this link will do it: > > http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1135§ion=index&aid=7 ...did better than that: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=189893 -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 18:20:16 up 6 days, 23:43, 7 users, load average: 2.07, 1.78, 1.58 +++ "Athens built the Acropolis. Corinth was a commercial city, interested in purely materialistic things. Today we admire Athens, visit it, preserve the old temples, yet we hardly ever set foot in Corinth." -- Dr. Harold Urey, Nobel Laureate in chemistry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On Thursday 24 June 2004 04:19 pm, JoeHill wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:47:38 +0300 > > maxxik disseminated the following: > > Hi ppls ! > > > > http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1135&aid=2 > > > > what do you think about it ? ) dont you want to support out favorite > > distributive ? ) > > > > PS sorry for offtopic ... > > I'm not so concerned about the offtopic, but the link you posted seems to > automatically enter a vote for Gentoo. If you want to vote for Mandrake Linux, this link will do it: http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1135§ion=index&aid=7 -- Take care, Randall Hobbs Programmer - System Administrator - Chip Castle Dot Com, Inc. Web Hosting * Programming * Software http://www.chipcastle.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:05:22 -0500 Chuck MATTSEN disseminated the following: > The little p---ant did, however, remind us (well, me, anyway ... I > can't speak or anyone else) of the hazards of indiscriminately > clicking proffered links. ya, I'm kickin' myself right now, the "pollBooth.pl?qid=1135&aid=2" should have triggered alarm bells, or at least like a Spider Sense or something ;-) -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 18:11:19 up 6 days, 23:34, 7 users, load average: 1.35, 1.41, 1.41 +++ "Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone." -- John Maynard Keynes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:54:14 -0400 Charles A Edwards disseminated the following: > It is more than that!!! > It is a deliberate plant > > NO ONE named maxxik has Ever before posted to either the newbie or > expert list!! I'm not surprised. Most Gentoo users I've communicated with are pretty hardcore, and not all of them have been particularly mature. In general, they seem to look on other Linux distros the same way we look at Windows, which is entirely without merit. I can definitely see a Gentoo user pulling a stunt like this, which explains of course the 'poll' results. Heh. I voted for Mandrake like 4 times to try and make up for this. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 18:04:26 up 6 days, 23:28, 7 users, load average: 1.47, 1.41, 1.43 +++ "If I said yes, that would then suggest that that might be the only place where it might be done which would not be accurate ... necessarily accurate ... it might also not be inaccurate, but I mean ... I'm disinclined to mislead anyone." -- Donald Rumsfeld Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
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Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive
Job Evers wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:48:30 -0500 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: If your hardware is working correctly, it is normally scanning the SCSI bus at this point, to see what is connected. (The controller board has its own BIOS that is running.) I am not sure of the exact sequence of this controller, but if it just sits there, I would suspect that your SCSI drive are not terminated properly, or they are addressed wrong. Let it sit at that point for about 5 minutes, and see what it comes back with, if anything. More information on the hardware would also help. (Number and type of drives. Internal and/or external drives, ect.) Yes, it does just sit there. When I disconnect the drives the computer moves past the 'scanning screen' and boots up fine into the cdrom. Regarding the hardware, it is a BusLogic controller. I have two hardrives connected to it. Both are internal ibm scsi drives (model number ddrs-39130) Thanks for your help This makes me think that the SCSI cable is not properly terminated. A SCSI cable has to be terminated on both ends. With internal drives, this is normally done on the controller board, and ether the last drive on the cable, or a terminerator on the end of the cable. The controller card can ether have auto-termination, or have a jumper to control it. The drive will have a jumper, and possible removable resister packs. (I have not had a chance to check the drive numbers.) If the cable has a terminator, it will ether be plugged into the last connector, or be built into the end of the cable. Troubleshooting SCSI problems can be a challenge. If I remember right, there is a SCSI HOWTO. See if this helps. If not, see if you can determine how things are terminated. You can also try booting with just the last drive in the chain connected, and see what that does. I can probably be of more help later tonight... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] scanner hookup
Hello I have hooked up a hp psc1210 printer,scanner,copier to mandrake 10. The printer works fine but i have not been able to get the scanner connected. I tried gimp 1.2 with xsane .92 plugin but xsane could not find the scanner. I installed gimp 2.0 but the xsane plugin apparently has not been updated for 2.0. Kooka would not recognize the scanner either. Any help or info on where to look would be appreciated. Thanks John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:19:50 -0400 JoeHill wrote: > I'm not so concerned about the offtopic, but the link you posted seems > to automatically enter a vote for Gentoo. It is more than that!!! It is a deliberate plant NO ONE named maxxik has Ever before posted to either the newbie or expert list!! He Is Now entered in my "May They Rot in Hell" filter Charles -- If Microsoft built cars, you could only have one person in the car at a time, unless you bought "Car95" or "CarNT". But, then you would have to buy more seats. - Mandrake Linux 10.1 on PurpleDragon 2.6.5-1.tmb.6mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgpFvRnPFUavM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:48:30 -0500 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > If your hardware is working correctly, it is normally scanning the > SCSI bus at this point, to see what is connected. (The controller > board has its own BIOS that is running.) I am not sure of the exact > sequence of this controller, but if it just sits there, I would > suspect that your SCSI drive are not terminated properly, or they are > addressed wrong. Let it sit at that point for about 5 minutes, and see > what it comes back with, if anything. More information on the > hardware would also help. (Number and type of drives. Internal and/or > external drives, ect.) > Yes, it does just sit there. When I disconnect the drives the computer moves past the 'scanning screen' and boots up fine into the cdrom. Regarding the hardware, it is a BusLogic controller. I have two hardrives connected to it. Both are internal ibm scsi drives (model number ddrs-39130) Thanks for your help -- Job Evers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:47:38 +0300 maxxik disseminated the following: > Hi ppls ! > > http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1135&aid=2 > > what do you think about it ? ) dont you want to support out favorite > distributive ? ) > > PS sorry for offtopic ... I'm not so concerned about the offtopic, but the link you posted seems to automatically enter a vote for Gentoo. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 17:12:37 up 6 days, 22:36, 7 users, load average: 1.80, 1.89, 1.38 +++ "President Bush is asking Congress for $80 billion dollars to rebuild Iraq. And when you make out that check, remember there are two L's in Halliburton." -- David Letterman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] test
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Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive
Job Evers wrote: I was just given an old computer that uses SCSI drives. I have never worked with SCSI before. When I boot it up it goes through the BIOS and then a black screen with: BusLogic Bios Version 4.96I Intelligent Bus Master SCSI Host Adapter (C) 1995BusLogic INC And then it just sits there. Any advice would be lovely. Cheers, If your hardware is working correctly, it is normally scanning the SCSI bus at this point, to see what is connected. (The controller board has its own BIOS that is running.) I am not sure of the exact sequence of this controller, but if it just sits there, I would suspect that your SCSI drive are not terminated properly, or they are addressed wrong. Let it sit at that point for about 5 minutes, and see what it comes back with, if anything. More information on the hardware would also help. (Number and type of drives. Internal and/or external drives, ect.) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
Hi ppls ! http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1135&aid=2 what do you think about it ? ) dont you want to support out favorite distributive ? ) PS sorry for offtopic ... maxxik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hoyt Bailey Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Is this action normal? In attempting to trace the source of the pager randomly switching. I found something strange. With the pager on desktop 1, using a logitech trackman wheel with a roller ball. 1. If I move the cursor to the right untill it goes off screen, the pager switches from desktop 1 to desktop 2, and the cursor reappears at the left side of the screen. 2. If I move the cursor down until it goes off screen the pager switches to desktop 3, and the cursor reappears at the top of the screen. Reverse the action of the cursor and the same thing happens. Is this normal? Ya, like Tony said, this is actually a feature of X which some WM's use, usually described as 'viewports' moreso that 'workspaces'. It draws one huge desktop, then divides it up into 4 'quadrants' (actually, this can be configured differently as well, but that's another story), so that when you move down from viewport 1, the mouse'jumps' over into viewport 3. Sounds like either Pekwm, Kahakai or Waimea to me, but there may be others that do this. In any case, if you consult the documentation for the WM you are using, I am quite sure you will see a way to turn this behaviour off. BTW, Tony, what's up with yer quoting (or lack thereof), please tell me you are not using Lookout! There is also a setting in the X config file that controls how "hard" you have to try to move the mouse off the edge before it switches. I think it is called something like edge effect. I remember playing with it a few years ago. You can have anything from just "bumping" the edge to so hard it has the effect of turning it off. It can be handy if you set it right for the way you move the mouse... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Desktop resolutions
Paul wrote: Op Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:56:16 +0100 schreef Martin Foster: Is it possible to have different resolutions for different desktops, e.g. Desktop 1 = 1024 x 768, Desktop 2 = 800 x 600 etc. etc. I doubt that this is possible. The resolution is set when X starts. Your desktop manager program just follows where X goes. Paul I know you can change the color depth by running an Xnest window, but that will not help here. (Handy for programs that only work with 16 or 256 colors.) You can change the resolution of the entire X secession by using Ctrl-Alt-. This will cycle through the all the resolutions the X server has configured for the color depth you are running. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive
On Thursday 24 June 2004 16:16, Job Evers wrote: > I was just given an old computer that uses SCSI drives. I have > never worked with SCSI before. When I boot it up it goes through > the BIOS and then a black screen with: > > BusLogic Bios Version 4.96I > Intelligent Bus Master SCSI Host Adapter > (C) 1995BusLogic INC > > And then it just sits there. > > Any advice would be lovely. > > Cheers, Can't help you here, but it reminds me of the good, old days when installing linux (around 7.0). Immidiately after the boot, the system asked : do you have any scsi devices ? - Since that question has disappeared in later versions, I guess the kernels should recognize scsi devices automatically ? - Or maybe you should try a contemporary kernel - I think 2.2 is still floating around out there. Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * http://www.haulrich.net * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] SCSI Drive
I was just given an old computer that uses SCSI drives. I have never worked with SCSI before. When I boot it up it goes through the BIOS and then a black screen with: BusLogic Bios Version 4.96I Intelligent Bus Master SCSI Host Adapter (C) 1995BusLogic INC And then it just sits there. Any advice would be lovely. Cheers, -- Job Evers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Zone Alaram, Blackice, Norton Internet Security, etc.
On Thursday 24 June 2004 19:01, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>When I was running windows, I had all these program just to > >> keep secured. Are these program applicable to Linux? Or is it > >> only for windows? > > > > Only for Windows. On Mandrake go to 'Mandrake Control Center', > > 'Security', Firewall. > > As long as I can see, that path gives the choices for securing > local servers only (like FTP, web, DNS, mail server etc). What I > do not see there in control center is how to secure local client > machine that is *not* running such kinds of servers. > > Regards, > > Misko Well, the short version is : you don't have to. Linux is inherently much more secure than Windows. Furthermore, most people run their systems as users, not root. That means you'll have a hard time breaking the system. Virures are a non-issue in Linux. And about ports : go to http://www. sygatetech.com and check your system. Finally, if you set your security level to "higher", all users are isolated from each other and can do no harm to others. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * http://www.haulrich.net * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Zone Alaram, Blackice, Norton Internet Security, etc.
On Thursday 24 June 2004 10:01 am, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>When I was running windows, I had all these program just to keep > >>secured. Are these program applicable to Linux? Or is it only for > >>windows? > > > > Only for Windows. On Mandrake go to 'Mandrake Control Center', > > 'Security', Firewall. > > As long as I can see, that path gives the choices for securing local > servers only (like FTP, web, DNS, mail server etc). What I do not see > there in control center is how to secure local client machine that is > *not* running such kinds of servers. Uncheck everything > > Regards, > > Misko Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: Zone Alaram, Blackice, Norton Internet Security, etc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was running windows, I had all these program just to keep secured. Are these program applicable to Linux? Or is it only for windows? Only for Windows. On Mandrake go to 'Mandrake Control Center', 'Security', Firewall. As long as I can see, that path gives the choices for securing local servers only (like FTP, web, DNS, mail server etc). What I do not see there in control center is how to secure local client machine that is *not* running such kinds of servers. Regards, Misko Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Thursday 24 June 2004 11:14, JoeHill wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:52:57 -0500 > Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: > > > I think its mdkkdm, thats what I needed to know maybe I can fix it now. > > This happens in KDE?! I had no idea KDE could even be configured to use > viewports... > > Or, if it's not KDE, what WM/DE are you using? > Yes its kde3 and I beleive mdkkdm. I dont know about viewports or WM/DE. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:52:57 -0500 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: > I think its mdkkdm, thats what I needed to know maybe I can fix it now. This happens in KDE?! I had no idea KDE could even be configured to use viewports... Or, if it's not KDE, what WM/DE are you using? -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 12:13:16 up 6 days, 17:36, 7 users, load average: 1.22, 1.32, 1.38 +++ "Well, he might as well have been bombing Denmark." -- Gore Vidal, on the bombing of Afghanistan after 9/11 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:50:02 +0100 Tony S. Sykes disseminated the following: > The usual apologies but I am forced to use this during work hours. On a side > note though my company have finally decided to stop peddling Sco to our > Customers and are now going to recommend Linux, down side they are > recommending Red Hat. My company runs all our software off Progress Databases > and Mandrake is not certified. But at least it is a step in the right > direction. No need for apologies, quite the contrary, you have my sympathy ;-) Good news about SCO though, and hey, however we may feel about Red Hat, it's a step in the right direction, no? -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 12:10:46 up 6 days, 17:34, 7 users, load average: 1.46, 1.43, 1.43 +++ "If I said yes, that would then suggest that that might be the only place where it might be done which would not be accurate ... necessarily accurate ... it might also not be inaccurate, but I mean ... I'm disinclined to mislead anyone." -- Donald Rumsfeld Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT - music lovers beware
JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 03:13:13 +1200 John Rye disseminated the following: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/23/beastie_boy_cd_virus/ Heh, followed one of the 'related stories' links, a story about MP3 players that will only allow one person to listen to tunes by using Biometrics. Ya just gotta love this bit: "Bit of a no brainer really, the choice between an MP3 player that plays tunes, and an MP3 player that records biometric information and restricts my ability to transfer MP3s between devices," writes Tim. "I see no better way of ensuring that a media device won't sell apart from smearing it with excrement before packing it. " Link: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/11/biometric_drm_interview/ From my blog: "However, there might be some market for the technology, given that people's ingenuity in finding unintended uses for products extends as far as installing Linux on an XBox (incidentally, the iVue protoype runs Linux, which some might find a little ironic). Like, for an example, an iPorn, which allows you to subscribe to all those naughty Internet sites, view your smut anywhere you like, and rest assured that no one else will discover what is hiding in what they think is your MP3 player." Sir Robin -- "A popular Government, without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy; or perhaps both." - James Madison Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Is this action normal?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JoeHill Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Is this action normal? On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:06:45 +0100 Tony S. Sykes disseminated the following: > This is a setting on your windows manager. Not sure which one your are using > but you should be able to find it in the settings if you wanna turn it off. > > Tony. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hoyt Bailey > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [newbie] Is this action normal? > > > In attempting to trace the source of the pager randomly switching. I > found something strange. With the pager on desktop 1, using a > logitech trackman wheel with a roller ball. > 1. If I move the cursor to the right untill it goes off screen, the > pager switches from desktop 1 to desktop 2, and the cursor reappears at > the left side of the screen. > 2. If I move the cursor down until it goes off screen the pager switches > to desktop 3, and the cursor reappears at the top of the screen. > > Reverse the action of the cursor and the same thing happens. Is this > normal? Ya, like Tony said, this is actually a feature of X which some WM's use, usually described as 'viewports' moreso that 'workspaces'. It draws one huge desktop, then divides it up into 4 'quadrants' (actually, this can be configured differently as well, but that's another story), so that when you move down from viewport 1, the mouse'jumps' over into viewport 3. Sounds like either Pekwm, Kahakai or Waimea to me, but there may be others that do this. In any case, if you consult the documentation for the WM you are using, I am quite sure you will see a way to turn this behaviour off. BTW, Tony, what's up with yer quoting (or lack thereof), please tell me you are not using Lookout! -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 11:34:24 up 6 days, 16:57, 7 users, load average: 1.61, 1.42, 1.32 +++ "Athens built the Acropolis. Corinth was a commercial city, interested in purely materialistic things. Today we admire Athens, visit it, preserve the old temples, yet we hardly ever set foot in Corinth." -- Dr. Harold Urey, Nobel Laureate in chemistry The usual apologies but I am forced to use this during work hours. On a side note though my company have finally decided to stop peddling Sco to our Customers and are now going to recommend Linux, down side they are recommending Red Hat. My company runs all our software off Progress Databases and Mandrake is not certified. But at least it is a step in the right direction. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Thursday 24 June 2004 10:36, JoeHill wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:06:45 +0100 > Tony S. Sykes disseminated the following: > > > This is a setting on your windows manager. Not sure which one your are using > > but you should be able to find it in the settings if you wanna turn it off. > > > > Tony. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hoyt Bailey > > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:08 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [newbie] Is this action normal? > > > > > > In attempting to trace the source of the pager randomly switching. I > > found something strange. With the pager on desktop 1, using a > > logitech trackman wheel with a roller ball. > > 1. If I move the cursor to the right untill it goes off screen, the > > pager switches from desktop 1 to desktop 2, and the cursor reappears at > > the left side of the screen. > > 2. If I move the cursor down until it goes off screen the pager switches > > to desktop 3, and the cursor reappears at the top of the screen. > > > > Reverse the action of the cursor and the same thing happens. Is this > > normal? > > Ya, like Tony said, this is actually a feature of X which some WM's use, usually > described as 'viewports' moreso that 'workspaces'. It draws one huge desktop, > then divides it up into 4 'quadrants' (actually, this can be configured > differently as well, but that's another story), so that when you move down from > viewport 1, the mouse'jumps' over into viewport 3. > > Sounds like either Pekwm, Kahakai or Waimea to me, but there may be others that > do this. In any case, if you consult the documentation for the WM you are using, > I am quite sure you will see a way to turn this behaviour off. > > BTW, Tony, what's up with yer quoting (or lack thereof), please tell me you are > not using Lookout! > I think its mdkkdm, thats what I needed to know maybe I can fix it now. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Thursday 24 June 2004 10:06, Tony S. Sykes wrote: > This is a setting on your windows manager. Not sure which one your are using but you should be able to find it in the settings if you wanna turn it off. > > Tony. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hoyt Bailey > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [newbie] Is this action normal? > > > In attempting to trace the source of the pager randomly switching. I > found something strange. With the pager on desktop 1, using a > logitech trackman wheel with a roller ball. > 1. If I move the cursor to the right untill it goes off screen, the > pager switches from desktop 1 to desktop 2, and the cursor reappears at > the left side of the screen. > 2. If I move the cursor down until it goes off screen the pager switches > to desktop 3, and the cursor reappears at the top of the screen. > > Reverse the action of the cursor and the same thing happens. Is this > normal? Thanks Tony I just knew it had to be something like that. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Desktop resolutions
Op Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:56:16 +0100 schreef Martin Foster: >Is it possible to have different resolutions for different desktops, >e.g. Desktop 1 = 1024 x 768, Desktop 2 = 800 x 600 etc. etc. I doubt that this is possible. The resolution is set when X starts. Your desktop manager program just follows where X goes. Paul -- A successful man is one who makes more money than a wife can spend. A successful woman is one who can find such a man. - Lana Turner http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.htm Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this action normal?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:06:45 +0100 Tony S. Sykes disseminated the following: > This is a setting on your windows manager. Not sure which one your are using > but you should be able to find it in the settings if you wanna turn it off. > > Tony. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hoyt Bailey > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [newbie] Is this action normal? > > > In attempting to trace the source of the pager randomly switching. I > found something strange. With the pager on desktop 1, using a > logitech trackman wheel with a roller ball. > 1. If I move the cursor to the right untill it goes off screen, the > pager switches from desktop 1 to desktop 2, and the cursor reappears at > the left side of the screen. > 2. If I move the cursor down until it goes off screen the pager switches > to desktop 3, and the cursor reappears at the top of the screen. > > Reverse the action of the cursor and the same thing happens. Is this > normal? Ya, like Tony said, this is actually a feature of X which some WM's use, usually described as 'viewports' moreso that 'workspaces'. It draws one huge desktop, then divides it up into 4 'quadrants' (actually, this can be configured differently as well, but that's another story), so that when you move down from viewport 1, the mouse'jumps' over into viewport 3. Sounds like either Pekwm, Kahakai or Waimea to me, but there may be others that do this. In any case, if you consult the documentation for the WM you are using, I am quite sure you will see a way to turn this behaviour off. BTW, Tony, what's up with yer quoting (or lack thereof), please tell me you are not using Lookout! -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 11:34:24 up 6 days, 16:57, 7 users, load average: 1.61, 1.42, 1.32 +++ "Athens built the Acropolis. Corinth was a commercial city, interested in purely materialistic things. Today we admire Athens, visit it, preserve the old temples, yet we hardly ever set foot in Corinth." -- Dr. Harold Urey, Nobel Laureate in chemistry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Is this action normal?
This is a setting on your windows manager. Not sure which one your are using but you should be able to find it in the settings if you wanna turn it off. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hoyt Bailey Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Is this action normal? In attempting to trace the source of the pager randomly switching. I found something strange. With the pager on desktop 1, using a logitech trackman wheel with a roller ball. 1. If I move the cursor to the right untill it goes off screen, the pager switches from desktop 1 to desktop 2, and the cursor reappears at the left side of the screen. 2. If I move the cursor down until it goes off screen the pager switches to desktop 3, and the cursor reappears at the top of the screen. Reverse the action of the cursor and the same thing happens. Is this normal? -- Regards; Hoyt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Is this action normal?
In attempting to trace the source of the pager randomly switching. I found something strange. With the pager on desktop 1, using a logitech trackman wheel with a roller ball. 1. If I move the cursor to the right untill it goes off screen, the pager switches from desktop 1 to desktop 2, and the cursor reappears at the left side of the screen. 2. If I move the cursor down until it goes off screen the pager switches to desktop 3, and the cursor reappears at the top of the screen. Reverse the action of the cursor and the same thing happens. Is this normal? -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
