date:20040827

On Friday 27 August 2004 09:57 pm, Peter Davis wrote:
> I know this is heresy, but I'd love to get recommendations for a book on
> becoming a Linux power user.  It's heresy because I'm supposed to get
> everything I need from man pages, Google, or reading source code.
> However, frankly, I don't have the patience for that anymore.  I like
> the orderly explanations that a good book can offer.  Unfortunately, I'm
> finding that my *n*x experience (DEC Ultrix, SGI Irix, etc.) is too far
> in the past, and too dissimilar to Mandrake, to be helping me much.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -pd
Hello Peter,
I have two they are:

How Linux Works
What Every Superuser Should Know
By Brian Ward 

and

Linux Power Tools
By Roderick W. Smith

Both I think are really good.
bj


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[newbie] Book recommendations?

2004-08-27 Thread Peter Davis

I know this is heresy, but I'd love to get recommendations for a book on 
becoming a Linux power user.  It's heresy because I'm supposed to get 
everything I need from man pages, Google, or reading source code.  
However, frankly, I don't have the patience for that anymore.  I like 
the orderly explanations that a good book can offer.  Unfortunately, I'm 
finding that my *n*x experience (DEC Ultrix, SGI Irix, etc.) is too far 
in the past, and too dissimilar to Mandrake, to be helping me much.

Thanks,
-pd


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Re: [newbie] urpmi gone!

On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 11:27, Paul Smith wrote:
> Stephen Kühn wrote:
> > ...and I'll assume you've rebooted and double checked in the /usr/sbin
> > directory for any remnants of urpmi and associated programs?
> 
> Thanks, Stephen. Now, I am trying to do the following:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] paulus]# urpmi.update "Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1)" 
> removable://mnt/cdrom/
> trying to select nonexistent medium "removable://mnt/cdrom/"
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Cooker.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Contrib.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Updates.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_source.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz]
> mounting /mnt/cdrom
> unable to access medium "Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1)",
> this could happen if you mounted manually the directory when creating 
> the medium.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Paul

You can always remove all the media already listed, then one by one
recreate them (so you know things are being pointed to the right places;
I generally copy all the CD's to the local drive, blow out the original
installation sources, then recreate them; that way, in the course of a
month or so, I know I have all the bits and bobs I need, and then narrow
it all down to update media...

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Re: [newbie] Kmail going Nuts

2004-08-27 Thread Erylon Hines



| On Friday 27 August 2004 05:26 pm, BJ Tracy wrote:
|
|
| Hello All,
|
| While answering Hoyt's email, kmail went nuts.  The first email response
| just crashed my desktop and I had to reboot.  The second time I tried to
| respond to Hoyt's email (and of course the whole mailing list ) Kmail
| crashed and rebooted WITHOUT me doing ANYTHING.  Something is way wrong
| here.
|
| Now this is where it gets real WEIRD,  when ( the second time ) Kmail
| rebooted by itself, the two emails to Hoyt ( and of cousre the whole
| mailing list) were there and sent ! !  Is anyone having these same problems
| ? ?
|
| Is this a bug, if so do I report it and if so to who / where?
|
| Looking for an guidance.
|
| Standing by.
| All the best to you all,
| bj
| Linux Newbie, but loving it!

I'm getting confused by the threading here, but in case you missed my post to 
the hijacked thread:

Rebooted?  I think it may not be kmail--you may have a hardware problem.  
Something about kmail may be accessing a specific part of your hd, or using a 
specific amount of cpu or memory, or ethernet, and that is the cause of the 
crash.  
The reason I say this, a few years ago, sometimes when I tried to transfer 
files from-or-to one of the computers on my network I would get a spontaneous 
reboot.  Now, the weird part is, more than one computer was doing this, but 
one specific computer was always involved (either it would reboot or the one 
being transferred to or from would reboot).  After a couple of months of 
pulling my hair out, I changed the network card in that machine and the 
problem went away!
| >
| > What is up with that ??  I have never had any problems with Kmail.

Well, any problem I've ever had was cured by deleting my /home/username/.kde 
and logging back in.

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Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question

2004-08-27 Thread Erylon Hines

On Friday 27 August 2004 03:45 pm, charlie wrote:
| On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 07:26 am, BJ Tracy wrote:
| > Hello All,
| >
| > Thanks Hoyt for responding to my questions.
| >
| > Not sure if you are going to see my responses,  I tried to respond and
| > Kmail went nuts and crashed the first time and rebooted itself the second
| > time.

Rebooted?  I think it may not be kmail--you may have a hardware problem.  
Something about kmail may be accessing a specific part of your hd, or using a 
specific amount of cpu or memory, or ethernet, and that is the cause of the 
crash.  
The reason I say this, a few years ago, sometimes when I tried to transfer 
files from-or-to one of the computers on my network I would get a spontaneous 
reboot.  Now, the weird part is, more than one computer was doing this, but 
one specific computer was always involved (either it would reboot or the one 
being transferred to or from would reboot).  After a couple of months of 
pulling my hair out, I changed the network card in that machine and the 
problem went away!
| >
| > What is up with that ??  I have never had any problems with Kmail.

Well, any problem I've ever had was cured by deleting my /home/username/.kde 
and logging back in.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi gone!

2004-08-27 Thread Paul Smith

Stephen Kühn wrote:
...and I'll assume you've rebooted and double checked in the /usr/sbin
directory for any remnants of urpmi and associated programs?
Thanks, Stephen. Now, I am trying to do the following:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] paulus]# urpmi.update "Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1)" 
removable://mnt/cdrom/
trying to select nonexistent medium "removable://mnt/cdrom/"
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Cooker.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Contrib.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Updates.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_source.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz]
mounting /mnt/cdrom
unable to access medium "Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1)",
this could happen if you mounted manually the directory when creating 
the medium.

Any ideas?
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Re: [newbie] Kmail going Nuts

On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 11:00, BJ Tracy wrote:
> On Friday 27 August 2004 05:26 pm, BJ Tracy wrote:
> 
> > Not sure if you are going to see my responses,  I tried to respond and
> > Kmail went nuts and crashed the first time and rebooted itself the second
> > time.
> >
> > What is up with that ??  I have never had any problems with Kmail.
> >
> > Can anyone help,,, is this a bug or what.
> Hello All,
> 
> While answering Hoyt's email, kmail went nuts.  The first email response just 
> crashed my desktop and I had to reboot.  The second time I tried to respond 
> to Hoyt's email (and of course the whole mailing list ) Kmail crashed and 
> rebooted WITHOUT me doing ANYTHING.  Something is way wrong here.
> 
> Now this is where it gets real WEIRD,  when ( the second time ) Kmail rebooted 
> by itself, the two emails to Hoyt ( and of cousre the whole mailing list) 
> were there and sent ! !  Is anyone having these same problems ? ?
> 
> Is this a bug, if so do I report it and if so to who / where?
> 
> Looking for an guidance.
> 
> Standing by.
> All the best to you all,
> bj
> Linux Newbie, but loving it!

Every time I've had difficulties with anything KDE, I would logoff and
login as root (or do it from the console) and rename the .kde directory
within my home directory so that KDE would rebuild itself; then again,
as well, I also make sure that the /etc/ld.so.conf is up to date and I
run ldconfig to rebuild the lib path cache; generally, it all becomes
happy-dappy again and you can then copy over your KMail prefs and
whatnot to the new .kde directory; at least it's worth a shot, right
mate?

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[newbie] Kmail going Nuts

On Friday 27 August 2004 05:26 pm, BJ Tracy wrote:

> Not sure if you are going to see my responses,  I tried to respond and
> Kmail went nuts and crashed the first time and rebooted itself the second
> time.
>
> What is up with that ??  I have never had any problems with Kmail.
>
> Can anyone help,,, is this a bug or what.
Hello All,

While answering Hoyt's email, kmail went nuts.  The first email response just 
crashed my desktop and I had to reboot.  The second time I tried to respond 
to Hoyt's email (and of course the whole mailing list ) Kmail crashed and 
rebooted WITHOUT me doing ANYTHING.  Something is way wrong here.

Now this is where it gets real WEIRD,  when ( the second time ) Kmail rebooted 
by itself, the two emails to Hoyt ( and of cousre the whole mailing list) 
were there and sent ! !  Is anyone having these same problems ? ?

Is this a bug, if so do I report it and if so to who / where?

Looking for an guidance.

Standing by.
All the best to you all,
bj
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Re: [newbie] urpmi gone!

On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 10:03, Paul Smith wrote:
> Dear All
> 
> I ran the command
> 
> urpmi --auto-select
> 
> and, afterwards, urpmi itself disappeared. I have already tried 
> installing urpmi via "rpm -i", but with no success.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Paul

...and I'll assume you've rebooted and double checked in the /usr/sbin
directory for any remnants of urpmi and associated programs?

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Re: [newbie] urpmi gone!

2004-08-27 Thread Paul Smith

Paul Smith wrote:
I ran the command
urpmi --auto-select
and, afterwards, urpmi itself disappeared. I have already tried 
installing urpmi via "rpm -i", but with no success.
Rebooting did the trick, but hdlists have disappeared, but I am updating 
them.

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[newbie] urpmi gone!

2004-08-27 Thread Paul Smith

Dear All
I ran the command
urpmi --auto-select
and, afterwards, urpmi itself disappeared. I have already tried 
installing urpmi via "rpm -i", but with no success.

Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
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Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question

2004-08-27 Thread Dennis Myers

On Friday 27 August 2004 04:22 pm, BJ Tracy wrote:
> On Thursday 26 August 2004 05:58 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
>
> Snip
> Thanks Hoyt,  I'm still a little confused.  By reading your partitions you
> have one large hard drive.  I have Three (3) and one is working great.
>
> > > Here is what I have then I will ask for advice / help.
> > > My new hard drive has   /   swap and   /home on it.
>
> Snip
> Did you use DiskDrake to partition your hard drive??  The options /backup
> and /music are not in my options OR can I call them anything I want and
> assign them to /part 1 thru 12 as needed ???
>
> > > My question is:  If I go into Mount Points and go to each hard drive
> > > and choose the partition size and define it what should they be ?
>
>  /var ??  another /home ? ?. just what I'm not sure.  I have all this
>  space and it's not showing up usable.
> Snip
>? ?  Do I need a swap on all three drives ? ?
>
> > > I have gone thru all my books and the net and nothing really talks
> > > about multiple hard drives.
>
> There is really nothing out there for multiple hard drives.
> Snip
>
> > > I'm really confused now on what to do.
> > > Thanks for all your help in advance,
> > > bj
>
> Snip
> This is helpful .  Do you have just one large hard drive ?
>
> > >  Alter it to your needs:
> >
> > FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6
> >   2.9G  123M  2.7G   5% /
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12
> >18G  4.7G   12G  28% /backup
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
> >66M   11M   53M  17% /boot
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7
> >20G  3.6G   15G  20% /home
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10
> >34G   26G  5.9G  82% /music
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8
> >   7.7G  406M  7.0G   6% /tmp
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9
> >20G  5.9G   13G  33% /usr
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part11
> >   9.5G  207M  8.8G   3% /var
> > I have installed everything that looked interesting so in my case
> > reseting the part's to used would be sufficient.
>
> Thanks again.
> Sorry  Still confused
> bj
bj, I have three harddrives they are set up so that  /  ,  /usr ,  /var , /tmp  
and swap are on one drive. Then I have a second drive that is /home and a 
third drive as /home1 
The first drive above is hda and the primary master, /home is primary slave 
and /home1 is secondary master.  It should not matter what you set up as 
partitions as long as / and or boot is on the primary master drive. All the 
rest can go where you want to put it . HTH
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Re: [newbie] Redirect video output

2004-08-27 Thread obu

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:28:27 +, Cdrack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi to all.
IÂm wondering if there is a way to redirect the output that goes to the
monitor to another device like /dev/video0  (that is my video recording
card) to create a stream or something like that.
Tnx.
Cdrack.
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Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question

2004-08-27 Thread charlie

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 07:26 am, BJ Tracy wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Thanks Hoyt for responding to my questions.
>
> Not sure if you are going to see my responses,  I tried to respond and
> Kmail went nuts and crashed the first time and rebooted itself the second
> time.
>
> What is up with that ??  I have never had any problems with Kmail.
>
> Can anyone help,,, is this a bug or what.
>
> Thanks again Hoyt, let me know if you get my other questions
> Regards to all,
> bj

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Re: [newbie] Book recommendations?

2004-08-27 Thread Kaj Haulrich

On Friday 27 August 2004 23:15, Peter Davis wrote:
> I know this is heresy, but I'd love to get recommendations for a
> book on becoming a Linux power user.  It's heresy because I'm
> supposed to get everything I need from man pages, Google, or
> reading source code. However, frankly, I don't have the patience
> for that anymore.  I like the orderly explanations that a good
> book can offer.  Unfortunately, I'm finding that my *n*x
> experience (DEC Ultrix, SGI Irix, etc.) is too far in the past,
> and too dissimilar to Mandrake, to be helping me much.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -pd

Running Linux by Matt Welsh et. al. - O'Reilly Books
Linux in a Nutshell by Ellen Siever et. al. - O'Reilly Books
Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition by Paul Sheer - Prentice Hall

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Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question

2004-08-27 Thread cdrack

Hi BJ.

In my opinion the size of each partition are given
acord the use you intent to give and of course the
size of youre disk.  i.e.

if you have let's say a 80 Gb Hdd. then if youre
computer is just for personal usage... the Mandrake
Linux Normal instalation will use a partition named
"/" wich is the root of the operative system... (don't
get confused about the root user, that's another
thing).  so into this partition can be alocated all
the other directories that the system needs like
"home", "var", "usr" "tmp".  But the main reason to
create partitions for this directories is to limit the
size of each  one to an especific maximun size.  .i.e.

/  = 20 GB
/Home = 40 GB  (because is the home of each user and
have to hold the user's documents like music, imgs,
etc.)
/swap = recomended 2x RAM Memory, let's say you have a
512 DDRAM dim, so create a 1 GB swap partition.

/tmp  = 5 GB 's

and that's all ... there are no especific size or
directive that any of the prior directories must be
partitions on youre hard drive, but is easier to
mantain in case of dissasters or even back up
operations.   i.e.

If for any reason you have to reinstall youre Linux
box and you created separated partitions to hold "/"
and "/home" then you just have to format the "/"
partition and youre documents will be safe on the
other partition and ready to use after youre
instalation.

Cdrack.

--- BJ Tracy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thursday 26 August 2004 05:58 pm, Hoyt Bailey
> wrote:
> SNIP
> Thanks Hoyt but I'm still a little confused.  From
> your response you have one 
> large hard drive ( I think that is what I see ).
> 
> I have three large hard drives - I is perfect and
> the other two well not sure.
> 
>  My question is:  If I go into Mount Points and go
> to each hard drive
>  and choose the partition size and define it what
> should they be ?
>  /var another /home . just what I'm not sure.  I
> have all this
>  space and it's not showing up usable.
> 
> Do I need a swap file on all three hard drives?
> > > Also do I need a swap on all three drives?
> > >
> > > I have gone thru all my books and the net and
> nothing really talks
> > > about multiple hard drives.
> > >
> > > I'm really confused now on what to do.
> > > Thanks for all your help in advance,
> > > bj
> SNIP
> Hoyt,
> Are you using the DiskDrake tool to do this?  The
> reason I'm askin is 
> that /music is not an option neither is /backup.
> I'm not sure of you mount scheme either.
> Can you call a partition anything you want and
> assign it to part 1 thru 12 ?
> > I went through this exercise a while ago and got a
> lot of suggestions
> > from which I developed a scheme.  It proved to be
> somewhat too generous
> > and if I had to do it again I would set things
> closer to the used col.
> > I am not going to give any advice but will because
> I am sending you my
> > df.  Alter it to your needs:
> > FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use%
> Mounted on
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6
> >   2.9G  123M  2.7G   5% /
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12
> >18G  4.7G   12G  28%
> /backup
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
> >66M   11M   53M  17% /boot
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7
> >20G  3.6G   15G  20% /home
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10
> >34G   26G  5.9G  82% /music
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8
> >   7.7G  406M  7.0G   6% /tmp
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9
> >20G  5.9G   13G  33% /usr
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part11
> >   9.5G  207M  8.8G   3% /var
> > I have installed everything that looked
> interesting so in my case
> > reseting the part's to used would be sufficient.
> 
> 
> 
> >

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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 07:17, Amy wrote:

> Well, I'm hoping I'll get my dad trained properly when I switch him. It 
> only took some pressure before he gave in and gave up TV A/V hookup duty 
> to me for all of his TVs. ^_^ It's amazing that the TV related stuff has 
> worked much better since he stopped touching anything but the remotes 
> and whatever is needed on each device to load tapes or DVDs.
> 
> I'm hoping getting that sort of cooperation from him in regards to the 
> computer won't be too far behind. ^_^

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[newbie] Redirect video output

2004-08-27 Thread Cdrack





Hi to all.

I´m wondering if there is a way to redirect the output that goes to the monitor to another device like /dev/video0  (that is my video recording card) to create a stream or something like that.

Tnx.

Cdrack.

Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question

Hello All,

Thanks Hoyt for responding to my questions.

Not sure if you are going to see my responses,  I tried to respond and Kmail 
went nuts and crashed the first time and rebooted itself the second time.

What is up with that ??  I have never had any problems with Kmail.

Can anyone help,,, is this a bug or what.

Thanks again Hoyt, let me know if you get my other questions
Regards to all,
bj


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Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question

On Thursday 26 August 2004 05:58 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
SNIP
Thanks Hoyt but I'm still a little confused.  From your response you have one 
large hard drive ( I think that is what I see ).

I have three large hard drives - I is perfect and the other two well not sure.

 My question is:  If I go into Mount Points and go to each hard drive
 and choose the partition size and define it what should they be ?
 /var another /home . just what I'm not sure.  I have all this
 space and it's not showing up usable.

Do I need a swap file on all three hard drives?
> > Also do I need a swap on all three drives?
> >
> > I have gone thru all my books and the net and nothing really talks
> > about multiple hard drives.
> >
> > I'm really confused now on what to do.
> > Thanks for all your help in advance,
> > bj
SNIP
Hoyt,
Are you using the DiskDrake tool to do this?  The reason I'm askin is 
that /music is not an option neither is /backup.
I'm not sure of you mount scheme either.
Can you call a partition anything you want and assign it to part 1 thru 12 ?
> I went through this exercise a while ago and got a lot of suggestions
> from which I developed a scheme.  It proved to be somewhat too generous
> and if I had to do it again I would set things closer to the used col.
> I am not going to give any advice but will because I am sending you my
> df.  Alter it to your needs:
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6
>   2.9G  123M  2.7G   5% /
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12
>18G  4.7G   12G  28% /backup
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
>66M   11M   53M  17% /boot
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7
>20G  3.6G   15G  20% /home
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10
>34G   26G  5.9G  82% /music
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8
>   7.7G  406M  7.0G   6% /tmp
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9
>20G  5.9G   13G  33% /usr
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part11
>   9.5G  207M  8.8G   3% /var
> I have installed everything that looked interesting so in my case
> reseting the part's to used would be sufficient.




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Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question

On Thursday 26 August 2004 05:58 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote:

Snip
Thanks Hoyt,  I'm still a little confused.  By reading your partitions you 
have one large hard drive.  I have Three (3) and one is working great.
> > Here is what I have then I will ask for advice / help.
> > My new hard drive has   /   swap and   /home on it.
Snip
Did you use DiskDrake to partition your hard drive??  The options /backup 
and /music are not in my options OR can I call them anything I want and 
assign them to /part 1 thru 12 as needed ??? 
> > My question is:  If I go into Mount Points and go to each hard drive
> > and choose the partition size and define it what should they be ?
 /var ??  another /home ? ?. just what I'm not sure.  I have all this
 space and it's not showing up usable.
Snip
   ? ?  Do I need a swap on all three drives ? ?
> >
> > I have gone thru all my books and the net and nothing really talks
> > about multiple hard drives.
There is really nothing out there for multiple hard drives.
Snip
> > I'm really confused now on what to do.
> > Thanks for all your help in advance,
> > bj
Snip
This is helpful .  Do you have just one large hard drive ?
> >  Alter it to your needs:
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6
>   2.9G  123M  2.7G   5% /
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12
>18G  4.7G   12G  28% /backup
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
>66M   11M   53M  17% /boot
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7
>20G  3.6G   15G  20% /home
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10
>34G   26G  5.9G  82% /music
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8
>   7.7G  406M  7.0G   6% /tmp
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9
>20G  5.9G   13G  33% /usr
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part11
>   9.5G  207M  8.8G   3% /var
> I have installed everything that looked interesting so in my case
> reseting the part's to used would be sufficient.
Thanks again.
Sorry  Still confused
bj



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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

2004-08-27 Thread Amy

Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 06:48, Amy wrote:
Hoyt Bailey wrote:
On Friday 27 August 2004 04:58, Amy wrote:
Just  one suggestion dont tell yor father or brother what the root 
password is.

Oh you can bet they won't know that 'til I've moved out and given up 
giving them tech support. ^_^ I know better than to let them install 
stuff. Who knows what amazing shit would end up on the computer!

It's too bad I can't lock down my client's boxes as it would alleviate
so much problem and hassle; at least, though, with my folks (even though
they're 10,000km's away) they follow instructions to a T and always
consult with me prior to installing or downloading something...HA!
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Well, I'm hoping I'll get my dad trained properly when I switch him. It 
only took some pressure before he gave in and gave up TV A/V hookup duty 
to me for all of his TVs. ^_^ It's amazing that the TV related stuff has 
worked much better since he stopped touching anything but the remotes 
and whatever is needed on each device to load tapes or DVDs.

I'm hoping getting that sort of cooperation from him in regards to the 
computer won't be too far behind. ^_^


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[newbie] Book recommendations?

2004-08-27 Thread Peter Davis

I know this is heresy, but I'd love to get recommendations for a book on 
becoming a Linux power user.  It's heresy because I'm supposed to get 
everything I need from man pages, Google, or reading source code.  
However, frankly, I don't have the patience for that anymore.  I like 
the orderly explanations that a good book can offer.  Unfortunately, I'm 
finding that my *n*x experience (DEC Ultrix, SGI Irix, etc.) is too far 
in the past, and too dissimilar to Mandrake, to be helping me much.

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 06:48, Amy wrote:
> Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> > On Friday 27 August 2004 04:58, Amy wrote:
> > Just  one suggestion dont tell yor father or brother what the root 
> > password is.
> > 
> Oh you can bet they won't know that 'til I've moved out and given up 
> giving them tech support. ^_^ I know better than to let them install 
> stuff. Who knows what amazing shit would end up on the computer!

It's too bad I can't lock down my client's boxes as it would alleviate
so much problem and hassle; at least, though, with my folks (even though
they're 10,000km's away) they follow instructions to a T and always
consult with me prior to installing or downloading something...HA!
Gottem trained...

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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

2004-08-27 Thread Amy

Hoyt Bailey wrote:
On Friday 27 August 2004 04:58, Amy wrote:
Just  one suggestion dont tell yor father or brother what the root 
password is.

Oh you can bet they won't know that 'til I've moved out and given up 
giving them tech support. ^_^ I know better than to let them install 
stuff. Who knows what amazing shit would end up on the computer!


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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP


Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Until I receive a new set of installation CDs from HP, her Windows 
XP stays disconnected. With the new installation disks at hand, I 
will install XP, Then Open Office, Mozilla, 5 antivirus, 3 
trojan/worm/spyware/ad-ware killers and 2 firewalsl (all downloaded 
and burned from my linux box). Then, maybe, it will be connected.
Until then, my daughter uses her account on my Linux box.
If you still would be required to download the stuff, i would have advised to install the other way around:1st firewall, then 
anti-virus, then the rest.


She herself is now highly motivated to stay off the internet with 
her Windows XP. Reason : We reviewed the logs from the various 
"cleaning" applications. They showed no less than 1543 "dubious" 
files. In one week.
It i'll take me a year to get that much leaving my system wide open.
But this is because i have a hardware-firewall.

We don't like flies, so we don't put a carcass in our living room 
and then open the Windows.
Hahahahahaha Microsoft Carcass 2.0 attract more flies than it did ever before :P


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Re: [newbie] X-86 Will not load

2004-08-27 Thread Paul

Op Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:53:49 -0700 schreef Steve:

>a video resolution problem so it drops to the command line. I fixed it
>the first time by editing a file that showed the different video
>resolutions for the monitor. However, I cannot remember what file it
>was. Do you know what file that info is kept in?

/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 perhaps?


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[newbie] X-86 Will not load

2004-08-27 Thread Steve




I made the mistake of reloading Mandrake 10.0 and 
forgot that last time I loaded it X86 would not start. Linux tries to start it 
but, there is a video resolution problem so it drops to the command line. I 
fixed it the first time by editing a file that showed the different video 
resolutions for the monitor. However, I cannot remember what file it was. Do you 
know what file that info is kept in?
 
Thank you,
Steve

Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-27 Thread Kaj Haulrich

On Friday 27 August 2004 19:22, Vincent Voois wrote:

> The application she requires under windows, does it work in Wine?
> If it does, why bother keeping her box up with windows?

The application in question is Derive from Texas Instruments. Her 
math teacher insists on it and all her class-mates use it. It 
doesn't run under wine.

Until I receive a new set of installation CDs from HP, her Windows 
XP stays disconnected. With the new installation disks at hand, I 
will install XP, Then Open Office, Mozilla, 5 antivirus, 3 
trojan/worm/spyware/ad-ware killers and 2 firewalsl (all downloaded 
and burned from my linux box). Then, maybe, it will be connected.
Until then, my daughter uses her account on my Linux box.

She herself is now highly motivated to stay off the internet with 
her Windows XP. Reason : We reviewed the logs from the various 
"cleaning" applications. They showed no less than 1543 "dubious" 
files. In one week.

We don't like flies, so we don't put a carcass in our living room 
and then open the Windows.

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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP


Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Why would you hook up her machine directly to the net when can
arrange your Linux box to do all the NAT and firewalling stuff?
All required are two ethernet cards and a crosscable (or a
hub/switch and two utp cables). It's not an expensive
configuration anymore nowadays.

Simple explanation : Her room is about 10 meters away from my home 
office, and I don't want to spend another day drilling holes, 
re-arranging rugs etc. thus exposing myself tho the ire of my -  
ever beloved - supreme command.

Furthermore, I'm not the type of guy that has the PC running 
non-stop. Actually, I hate the noise from the fan. And I suppose, 
that in order to have my box doing all the filtering for her box 
would necessitate a boot on both machines every time she wants to 
send an e-mail.
Okay, then a simple switch would do the thing (besides the better silence-prestation, doesn't eat much power either), but this 
works pretty neatly only if you have a dialup connection effective enough for this (DSL or no charge for local calls)

The application she requires under windows, does it work in Wine?
If it does, why bother keeping her box up with windows?


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[newbie] mouse and keyboard problems

2004-08-27 Thread ostap110

Hi i have an old keyboard "gateway2000" (the one that has 12 'f' buttons
onn the far left), and a relatively new simple laser logitech mouse.
It's USB, but I use the P/S 2 adapter that it came with. Whenever I boot
mandrake, the keyboard stops working. I tried fixing that by, going
thourgh the Install, and disabling all the services. Then it works, but
when i try to start the x window, neither keyboard nor mouse works. 

Mandrake is really nice, and i just wanna have a working system with
printing (btw mandrake is great at setting up printers) and Icewm. I
really would appreciate if you could help me. 
Regards 
N. 


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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 03:31, Vincent Voois wrote:
> charlie wrote:
> 
> 
> >>I took a look at mozilla mail but didnt like it I'll check out
> >>Thunderbird I must admit kmail is too unstable, on my system, to serve
> >>well.  I would prefer to address the instability but dont have a clue
> >>it may be somewhere else.
> > 
> > 
> > Something strange happened to me this morning as I was downloading mail into 
> > Kmail. I deleted one of Lanman's mails and the Kmail desktop locked up solid, 
> > my CPU usage went into the 100% and stayed there. But nothing was happening 
> > in Kmail that I could see. So went into a terminal, and top showed that Kmail 
> > was gobbling up 98% of my CPU muscle. Killed the pid and all is back to as it 
> > should be.
> > 
> > Is Kmail going flaky or are Lanman's mail becoming sacred or precious?
> > 
> > Charlie.
> 
> It just got upset of Hoyt's remark about Kmail being too unstable.

Kmail unstable?
Outlook and Outlook Express are unstable; Kmail is just, er, quirky.

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Re: [newbie] Hardware problem. Keeps rebooting/freezing.

Paul Rodriguez wrote:
A couple of months ago, we had a power surge at our house that harmed
the computer. Although the computer was on a surge protector, the cable
modem was not, and it fried the eth0 on the motherboard.
I have since have had a difficulty whenever I try to transfer large
files on the hard drive. When I try, my computer restarts or freezes.
I have since replaced the mobo (Soyo Dragon Plus SY-KT600), my memory,
and my hard drive.
Changing my hard drive and motherboard made no change. My computer
would alternately freeze or reboot during the installation phase.
After installing new memory (from Crucial, specifically for my new
mobo), my computer doesn't even boot properly, and never gets to the
menus in the mandrake install cd.
You can try disabling all on-board devices first and see if it boots up properly
when this is done.
If not, remove extra hardware you inserted and try to reboot then.
If you can't reboot in a bald situation, either your board or your CPU dealed with
some serious arse-kicking.
Your board components aren't made to endure more than 5 volts and a certain power amount. If it exceeds you can for sure say
other components are affected in someway. Specially with a power-surge:if it can't go through your surge-protecor it will choose
another easy way which was your modem.
After such event it may not look like something happened to your other hardware, but your components are damaged and they
deteriorate very quickly once damaged. The effects show later but are still the resemblance of what happened during the surge.
That it killed your Ethernet device doesn't mean that this device stopped the problem.

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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

Hoyt Bailey wrote:
On Thursday 26 August 2004 07:51, JoeHill wrote:
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 05:07:02 -0500
Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following:
Just suppose that Windows was gone completely.  The internet would
speed up little virus activity would occur. Sure the usage would go
down for a while but everyone would be happier.
Hey! Something Hoyt and I are in complete agreement on! I knew there
must be something ;-)
With all due respect to John Lennon...
"Imagine there's no Microsoft, it isn't hard to do; no DRM or
viruses, and no closed source software too..."
I'm sure that you dont understand the extent of closed source software.
Why does almost everyone think that Mickeysoft is the only one producing closed 
source software?
Even on windows you have Open Source software.
And in many cases even cross-platform (Windows / Linux). Like XBasic, which i prefer 
above Visual Basic.


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Re: [newbie] [OT] Dumbest question ever asked


BJ Tracy wrote:
Hello All,
Quick question, I know someone has asked this before and I thought I saved it 
but do not seem to find it.

I still have one (1) desktop running XP in my office,  how do I turn off 
automatic updates on that pc?
Start -> Control Panel -> Administrative tools -> Services -> Automatic Updates.
The dumbest question is a question which isn't posted (always).


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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

2004-08-27 Thread BJ

Lanman wrote:
 BJ, Can you say next version of Windows? It's expected to be a 3 CD 
installation!

Lanman
Well I have heard of the Long Horn project of M$ ever since Windows98 
along with the other differetn project name that the past and current M$ 
OS before they had their actual names. They been working on this project 
for a long time and it won't surprise me if it is 3 cd's. Even when it 
does break lose and reveal it's true name in 2 or 3 years(if it hasn't 
got pushed back again) it could be a good OS(but I won't hold my breath).

I just migrated to Mandrake from M$ world and enjoying every minute of 
it(98% of the time in Linux now and 2% in XP Home) as I'm finding open 
source software that could do the same thing that Windowz crapware could 
do and even more. I had redone my entire computer three days ago 
swapping the hdd that M$ and Mandrake sits on. Now my 160GB 7200rpm has 
my Linux on it and my crappy 40GB 5200rpm has XP Home(installed SP2 on 
it since it was a fresh install (the only reason is to keep up on my 
Windowz skills because of family and friends still uses this crappy OS)).

Bobby

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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP


charlie wrote:

I took a look at mozilla mail but didnt like it I'll check out
Thunderbird I must admit kmail is too unstable, on my system, to serve
well.  I would prefer to address the instability but dont have a clue
it may be somewhere else.

Something strange happened to me this morning as I was downloading mail into 
Kmail. I deleted one of Lanman's mails and the Kmail desktop locked up solid, 
my CPU usage went into the 100% and stayed there. But nothing was happening 
in Kmail that I could see. So went into a terminal, and top showed that Kmail 
was gobbling up 98% of my CPU muscle. Killed the pid and all is back to as it 
should be.

Is Kmail going flaky or are Lanman's mail becoming sacred or precious?
Charlie.
It just got upset of Hoyt's remark about Kmail being too unstable.


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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

On Fri, 2004-08-27 at 23:29, BJ Tracy wrote:
> On Friday 27 August 2004 07:28 am, Lanman wrote:
> snip
> >
> > Folks, if you think SP2 is gonna sway a lot of Microsoft users over to
> > Linux, just wait until Microsoft releases LongHorn! There's gonna be a
> > huge groundswell of people switching to linux when that happens!
> >
> > Lanman
> Question:
> Being from Texas I know what a Long Horn is,  what is it in the MS world?
> bj

Maybe because they already know it's a big cow, eh?

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Re: [newbie] i2c pooblems w/lm_sensors.

On Friday 27 August 2004 08:58, Thereidos wrote:
> W liÅcie z piÄ, 27-08-2004, godz. 14:44, Hoyt Bailey pisze:
> > On Friday 27 August 2004 00:27, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > 
> >
> > > BTW, I believe that the path  /mkdev/mkdev.sh is meant to be
> > > within the source code folder, so that a program that usually
> > > runs during make or make-install is run.
> >
> > I finally found /mkdev.sh burried in lm_sensors-2.8.5
> > directory. /home/hoyt/Programs/lm_sensors-2.8.5/prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh
> >  Running the mkdev.sh allows sensors-detect to run but in the end I
> > could not get the temp's, fans into gkrellm. The following seems to
> > be the problem:
> > 1. For 2.6 kernels, make sure you have mounted sysfs and done
> > 'modprobe i2c_sensor'!
> > 2. For older kernels, make sure you have done 'modprobe i2c-proc'!
> > Line 1 seems important but I dont know what it means.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]$ locate sysfs
> > /home/hoyt/Programs/lm_sensors-2.8.5/doc/developers/sysfs-interface
> > There are a lot of sysfs entries but apparantly there is one
> > missing.
>
> This is what I've got about mounting sysfs :
> > Add as root this line to /etc/fstab
> >
> > sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
done
> >
> > than just write
> >
> > mount /sys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# mount /sys
mount: sysfs already mounted or /sys busy
mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /sys
No sys in /etc/fstab except the line above?
> >
> > If it complains that directory does not exists just create it
> > (mkdir /sys)
> > and repeat :)
>
> Let me know if it helped...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# cat /etc/fstab
/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda12 /backup ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda1 /boot ext3 defaults 1 2
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hda7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 
0 0
/dev/hda10 /music ext3 defaults 1 2
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /tmp ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda9 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda11 /var ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto 
umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0

[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# cat /etc/mtab
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 / ext3 rw 0 0
none /proc proc rw 0 0
none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw 0 0
none /dev devfs rw 0 0
none /sys sysfs rw 0 0
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12 /backup ext3 rw 0 0
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 /boot ext3 rw 0 0
none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7 /home ext3 rw 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 
0 0
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10 /music ext3 rw 0 0
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 /tmp ext3 rw 0 0
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9 /usr ext3 rw 0 0
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part11 /var ext3 rw 0 0
automount(pid4018) /net autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=4018,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 
0
automount(pid4016) /misc autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=4016,minproto=2,maxproto=4 
0 0
Well thats what happened?
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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

2004-08-27 Thread Bryan Phinney

On Friday 27 August 2004 09:29 am, BJ Tracy wrote:

> Question:
> Being from Texas I know what a Long Horn is,  what is it in the MS world?

Longhorn is to software what a jackelope is to Texas, IIRC.
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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

2004-08-27 Thread Bryan Phinney

On Friday 27 August 2004 07:13 am, Lanman wrote:

> Amy, Tell your father that we welcome him back from the "Dark Side" Grin!

And, our sympathies about the delousing;-}
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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

2004-08-27 Thread Lanman

BJ Tracy wrote:
On Friday 27 August 2004 07:28 am, Lanman wrote:
snip
Folks, if you think SP2 is gonna sway a lot of Microsoft users over to
Linux, just wait until Microsoft releases LongHorn! There's gonna be a
huge groundswell of people switching to linux when that happens!
Lanman
Question:
Being from Texas I know what a Long Horn is,  what is it in the MS world?
bj
 BJ, Can you say next version of Windows? It's expected to be a 3 CD 
installation!

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sent too much personal data to companies that couldn't build reliable
software if their lives depended on it!
More Importantly, I'm fed-up with a U.S. monopoly trying to tell a Canadian
what constitutes copyright violations, or how I should be able to use my
computer in the first place!
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Re: [newbie] i2c pooblems w/lm_sensors.

2004-08-27 Thread Thereidos

W liście z pią, 27-08-2004, godz. 14:44, Hoyt Bailey pisze: 
> On Friday 27 August 2004 00:27, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> 
> > BTW, I believe that the path  /mkdev/mkdev.sh is meant to be within
> > the source code folder, so that a program that usually runs during
> > make or make-install is run.
> I finally found /mkdev.sh burried in lm_sensors-2.8.5 
> directory. /home/hoyt/Programs/lm_sensors-2.8.5/prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh
>  Running the mkdev.sh allows sensors-detect to run but in the end I 
> could not get the temp's, fans into gkrellm. The following seems to be 
> the problem:
> 1. For 2.6 kernels, make sure you have mounted sysfs and done
> 'modprobe i2c_sensor'!
> 2. For older kernels, make sure you have done 'modprobe i2c-proc'!
> Line 1 seems important but I dont know what it means.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]$ locate sysfs
> /home/hoyt/Programs/lm_sensors-2.8.5/doc/developers/sysfs-interface
> There are a lot of sysfs entries but apparantly there is one missing. 

This is what I've got about mounting sysfs :

> Add as root this line to /etc/fstab
> 
> sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
> 
> than just write
> 
> mount /sys
> 
> If it complains that directory does not exists just create it (mkdir
> /sys)
> and repeat :)

Let me know if it helped...
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Re: [newbie] kontact problem

On Friday 27 August 2004 06:17, Lanman wrote:
> Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> > I have just had an interesting session, last night when I shut down
> > I noticed that I had 3 emails in the outbox. Normal procedure has
> > been to save .Mail to Mail uninstall kontact reinstall kontact then
> > I can send the emails.  Instead I downloaded  thunderbird this
> > morning and decided to check for updates.  There were 2 bugfixes a
> > new kernel 2.6.3.16 and a intred (something like that) so I
> > upgraded to the new kernel came back to kmail and after clearing a
> > 'no subject' file the other 2 were sent.  Looks like the kernel
> > maybe responsible for some of the kmail problems.
>
> Ya just HAD to do it, didn't ya Hoyt? Had to find a way to fix KMail,
> eh? I was just getting used to having "sacred" emails, and BAM! Along
> comes Hoyt with his quick fix! (LMAO!)
>
> Good to hear you may have solved the problem Hoyt. I hope it's a
> permanent fix!
>
> Lanman
Me too  in a week or so I should know that is about how long it has been 
between foul ups.
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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

On Friday 27 August 2004 07:28 am, Lanman wrote:
snip
>
> Folks, if you think SP2 is gonna sway a lot of Microsoft users over to
> Linux, just wait until Microsoft releases LongHorn! There's gonna be a
> huge groundswell of people switching to linux when that happens!
>
> Lanman
Question:
Being from Texas I know what a Long Horn is,  what is it in the MS world?
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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

On Friday 27 August 2004 04:58, Amy wrote:
Just  one suggestion dont tell yor father or brother what the root 
password is.

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Re: [newbie] i2c pooblems w/lm_sensors.

On Friday 27 August 2004 00:27, Rob Blomquist wrote:

> BTW, I believe that the path  /mkdev/mkdev.sh is meant to be within
> the source code folder, so that a program that usually runs during
> make or make-install is run.
I finally found /mkdev.sh burried in lm_sensors-2.8.5 
directory. /home/hoyt/Programs/lm_sensors-2.8.5/prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh
 Running the mkdev.sh allows sensors-detect to run but in the end I 
could not get the temp's, fans into gkrellm. The following seems to be 
the problem:
1. For 2.6 kernels, make sure you have mounted sysfs and done
'modprobe i2c_sensor'!
2. For older kernels, make sure you have done 'modprobe i2c-proc'!
Line 1 seems important but I dont know what it means.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]$ locate sysfs
/home/hoyt/Programs/lm_sensors-2.8.5/doc/developers/sysfs-interface
There are a lot of sysfs entries but apparantly there is one missing. 

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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-27 Thread John Richard Smith

Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Is Kmail going flaky or are Lanman's mail becoming sacred or
precious?
Charlie.
 

Happened to me in Mozilla .
Don't remember whose mail it was, but on this list.
I was deleting one message, and it was loading the next, when it
locked up tight.
John
   

Happens to me quite often (in Kontact). I noticed, that after a 
download of multiple mails, sometimes the list window (the one with 
all mails in it) marks more then one, usually three mails for 
reading/moving or deleting. After reading one mail, and then 
deleting it in order to read the next, Kontact locks up completely.
However, after killing Kontact and restarting it, all messages are 
marked as "read", but hereafter it is stable - at least until the 
next reboot.

Must be a bug.
Eh.. haven't we here hijacked a thread that was otherwise 
closed ?

Kaj Haulrich.
 

I cannot say that this has happened to me very often in Mozilla.
As far as mozilla is concerned, the app loads in 1.5 seconds,
Most things load normally when viewed, and about the only thing not 
totally stable is the message counters, the numbers don't always appear 
each time they finish loading, have to click back and forth across a 
catagory or two, to make the numbers reappear.

The one bind with Mozilla is the line wrap isn't stable in all it's 
messages,sub-messages, and sub-sub-messages, I have to keep tidying the 
line wrap up to make it readable with easy. I do wish this could be 
fixed. I tried reducing the number of line wrap charcters to lower 
settings, but it doesn't really work. There is something fundamentally 
screwed about the setup of line wrap in all it's uses within mozilla.


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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

2004-08-27 Thread Lanman

LX, You bet I would! They've just been getting better and better at it, 
while raising the price of getting "Horned! Even so, I have to agree 
with Stephen too. Microsoft is quickly becoming their own worst enema 
too! Or was that a typo? Hmm,...maybe not!

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Script Kiddies, Crashes, Reboots, More Reboots, and Applications that 
sent too much personal data to companies that couldn't build reliable 
software if their lives depended on it!

More Importantly, I'm fed-up with a U.S. monopoly trying to tell a 
Canadian what constitutes copyright violations, or how I should be able 
to use my computer in the first place!

If you're still using Windows, you need to know that there's a better 
alternative that's free, reliable, safe and a hell of a lot more secure 
than what you have now.
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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good