Re: [newbie] any PDA users out there?

2005-01-30 Thread Noel McG.

- Original Message - 
From: "Aidan Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Newbie List" 
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 4:06 AM
Subject: [newbie] any PDA users out there?


> Hi all,
> am considering purchasing a PDA, I've googled on the topic and I fast
> becoming confused with all the information out there - some of which is
> grossly outdated so I'm not sure what to trust. What I really need is a
> testimony from someone that has one...
>
> Does anyone on the list use a PDA?
> if so have you been able to install a distro such as familiar on it?
> Whether using a linux distro or its original OS, how well does it and
> the apps integrate with mandrake? (eg - PIM's)
>
> I feel comfortable with 'Palm' but would prefer to dual boot an iPaq if
> possible. (I believe there is flight management/recording software
> available for glider pilots on the iPaq so this would be a bonus). I see
> Mandrake includes Kpilot which looks to work with the Palm - is there
> anything similar for the iPaq?
>
> Sorry for asking so many questions - any feedback would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks, Aidan.
>
>

Whilst not actually answering your question this
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums may be somewhere to
start.  It in fact deals with GPS systems but there are write ups on various
models and your glider package may be mentioned.

However most of these run Windows 2002/3 PPC I do not recall anyone using a
Linux setup anuless it has been installed under another name.

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Re: [newbie] not receiving anything

2005-01-30 Thread Simon
On Monday 31 Jan 2005 07:07, Maureen wrote:
> I have reregistered for the newbie list twice and I am still not
> recieving anything from the list.  I rely on the list for answers to
> problems and just look forward to others opinions.  I don't understand
> what the problem is.  Can someone please figure out what is going on.
> TIA, Maureen
Well, your message got to the list OK, if you received it as well then all 
should be OK. The list is running at about 30+/- mails a day at the moment.

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Re:[newbie] Linux commands.......????

2005-01-30 Thread teguh
Hi,
Thank you Julie for asking Making New Connection cause I have the same 
problem since I live in Asia (Indonesia). I don't know which provider 
should I choose. Beside that I have problem with my connection so i'll 
work on building connecting first then ask that question.Till now i'm 
still struggling to connect my comp to internet under Linux or save my 
money to buy an external modem to overcome this.
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[newbie] not receiving anything

2005-01-30 Thread Maureen
I have reregistered for the newbie list twice and I am still not 
recieving anything from the list.  I rely on the list for answers to 
problems and just look forward to others opinions.  I don't understand 
what the problem is.  Can someone please figure out what is going on.  
TIA, Maureen


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[newbie] MDK 10.1 and ViaVoice

2005-01-30 Thread David
Back in Nov 04 a thread titled "Mandrake Linux not yet ready for primetime"
discussed amoungst other things Voice Recognition and ViaVoice in particular.
Jack did you try Viavoice and if so did you get it sorted.

I've just upgraded to 10.1 Official and have been able to get my hands on the
ViaVoice (v1.o) RPM's that shipped with MDK 8.0.

I'v read Volker Kuhlmann's pages http://volker.dnsalias.net/linux/speechrec.html
and /linux/vv/viavoice-SuSE8.2.html  . I've also downloaded his script.

My question is: Has anyone installed this version of ViaVoice on 10.1 and did
you experience any problems that I should be aware of?

Any clues as to what to look for would be appreciated.

Thanks


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RE: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?

2005-01-30 Thread Hugh Dixon


>-Original Message-
>From: JoeHill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 10:47 AM
>To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
>Subject: Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?


>Change the script so that it is only run if fetchmail is *not* already
running.

>Here's the one I use:

>ps ax > ~/tmp/bashterm
>grep fetchmail ~/tmp/bashterm > /dev/null
>if [ $? -ne 0 ] ; then
>fetchmail
>fi


I'm not sure if I'm hijacking this thread, but, for my interest, could
someone who does know explain what this script does/how it works?

(It's the stuff in the [*] that isn't obvious to me...)

Thanks,

Hugh






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[newbie] amaroK 1.2-beta4

2005-01-30 Thread Greg Meyer
Some of you following amaroK development may have noticed that 1.2-beta4 is 
out.  I have built packages for 10.1 and have uploaded them to the usual 
place and they should install cleanly over my beta3 packages.  There have 
been no updates to taglib or any of the other libraries that needed to be 
updated on 10.1, so the beta4 package should be all you need.

If you don't have amaroK beta installed yet, I highly recommend you try it, it 
is an awesome new audio player for linux.  All the updates you need are in 
the same directory as the amaroK packages.  Once again, there is a package 
that includes mysql support.  More info here

http://amarok.kde.org

packages are here 

http://www.gkmweb.com/amarok/10.1

For anybody still using 10.0, I am having lots of trouble with my chroot build 
environment for 10.0, so I don't have beta4 packages, but I hope to get the 
time to fix it and get them up later this week but no promises.

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Re: [newbie] 10.1 install problem

2005-01-30 Thread Mike Adolf
On Sunday 30 January 2005 08:28 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> On Sunday 30 January 2005 03:45 pm, Mike Adolf wrote:
> > Just installed 10.1 Official on a compac preserio.  The installation
> > video appeared normal during installation, but when I rebooted I just got
> > a black screen.  How does one even begin to solve that kind of problem?
> >
> > Mike
>
> Put the first CD in and reboot, then choose the upgrade 10.1 and let it go
> to the last screen, then choose screen resolution and try resetting to a
> lower color  setting like 16bpp or less, run a test and see if you get the
> rainbow. If so you will have a useable config and you can go to finish. and
> reboot.

Thanks for the reply.  I did as you suggested.  The resolution was at 1024x786 
(or something like that) and the color was already set at 16bpp, which was 
the smallest of available choices. I change the resolution to 1024x480, the 
next smaller choice.  After reboot, KDE came up, but the smaller resolution 
is unworkable.  I used harddrake to reset it back to 1024x786, rebooted, and 
got the same black screen.  This is a dual boot with XP and XP works fine 
with the higher res.  I have another monitor to try, but if that doesn't do 
it, I guess that 10.1 doesn't work with the graphics card, Intel 185.

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[newbie] any PDA users out there?

2005-01-30 Thread Aidan Holmes
Hi all,
am considering purchasing a PDA, I've googled on the topic and I fast 
becoming confused with all the information out there - some of which is 
grossly outdated so I'm not sure what to trust. What I really need is a 
testimony from someone that has one...

Does anyone on the list use a PDA?
if so have you been able to install a distro such as familiar on it? 
Whether using a linux distro or its original OS, how well does it and 
the apps integrate with mandrake? (eg - PIM's)

I feel comfortable with 'Palm' but would prefer to dual boot an iPaq if 
possible. (I believe there is flight management/recording software 
available for glider pilots on the iPaq so this would be a bonus). I see 
Mandrake includes Kpilot which looks to work with the Palm - is there 
anything similar for the iPaq?

Sorry for asking so many questions - any feedback would be greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks, Aidan.

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Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane

2005-01-30 Thread Elwyn
On Monday 31 Jan 2005 00:00, JoeHill wrote:
> Hey, bud, when you get back in your office, could you remember to *never*
> set an out-of-office auto-reply for an account you use on a mailing list?
>
> Many thanks!

Look on the brightside... It's not a flood.

I've been on a list in the past that had a reply that posted to the list about 
the reply that it just had about it posting to the list that the owner wasn't 
in.

When most people picked up email that evening the messages jumped (normally 
100 a day) to 4800 messages.

I remember it well, as I was still on a 28k Modem :(

You could always bounce the reply to his company and ask them politely to turn 
it off? Its UK isn't it?!

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Re: [newbie] Program to keep track of passwords

2005-01-30 Thread Elwyn
On Sunday 30 Jan 2005 10:49, Paul Smith wrote:
> Dear All
>
> I am looking for a program to keep track, safely, of one's passwords. Any
> ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Paul
>
> PS: Since I am a GMail user, please be sure that you reply to the list.

There are two ways I know of and I use both.

1, let KWallet do most of it for you
2. Create a database with your passwords in. Most people have PDAs these days, 
I keep mine on that :)

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Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane

2005-01-30 Thread Aron Smith
On Sunday 30 January 2005 04:26 pm, frengoGorgia wrote:
> Il lun, 2005-01-31 alle 01:00, JoeHill ha scritto:
> > Hey, bud, when you get back in your office, could you remember to *never*
> > set an out-of-office auto-reply for an account you use on a mailing list?
> >
> > Many thanks!
>
> I SUBSCRIBE AND JOIN to the petition.
Of course we will.
>
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Re: [newbie] interesting news story

2005-01-30 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:10:42 -0500
Julie Sloan disseminated the following:

> Activists Urge Free Open-Source Software
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/5hezf

Now why would those poor starving people want to miss out on this?:

http://weblog.infoworld.com/foster/2005/01/28.html#a209

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Re: [newbie] 10.1 install problem

2005-01-30 Thread Dennis Myers
On Sunday 30 January 2005 03:45 pm, Mike Adolf wrote:
> Just installed 10.1 Official on a compac preserio.  The installation video
> appeared normal during installation, but when I rebooted I just got a black
> screen.  How does one even begin to solve that kind of problem?
>
> Mike
Put the first CD in and reboot, then choose the upgrade 10.1 and let it go to 
the last screen, then choose screen resolution and try resetting to a lower 
color  setting like 16bpp or less, run a test and see if you get the rainbow. 
If so you will have a useable config and you can go to finish. and reboot.

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Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?

2005-01-30 Thread RickSisler
Mikkel L. Ellertson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> JoeHill wrote:
> 
> >On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:52:19 -0500
> >RickSisler disseminated the following:
> >
> > 
> >
> >>I thought the ~/.bash_profile was sourced only at login
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >Every term you open is considered a 'login'. That's why you see '7 users'
> >when you have 7 terms open, even though only you are logged in. Or is it '8
> >users'? Whatever. You get the idea.
> > 
> >
> It depends on the "term" program, and how it is started. The default 
> start of xterm is not a login. But there is a command line option to 
> make it one. I am not sure about other "term"s.
> 
> Mikkel
Thanks Mikkel, 
Well, thats what I thought I read somewhere but it is strange. It
might even be something I added. I source bash_aliases and
bash_functions file from bashrc. You can make a change to the
.bash_profile and it doesn't get added .. 

anyway, Joe's fix worked for me. Thanks guys, for replying.

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Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?

2005-01-30 Thread RickSisler
JoeHill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:52:19 -0500
> RickSisler disseminated the following:
> 
> > Any idea's ?
> 
> Change the script so that it is only run if fetchmail is *not* already 
> running.
> 
> Here's the one I use:
> 
> ps ax > ~/tmp/bashterm
> grep fetchmail ~/tmp/bashterm > /dev/null
> if [ $? -ne 0 ] ; then
> fetchmail
> fi
> 
> This is in my .bashrc under '#exec on startup', though, and don't ask me how 
> it
> works, I, as usual, copied and pasted it from somewhere.
> 
Thanks Joe, 
I was gonna get to some kind of test but that works. I am not sure
what I upgraded recently for this to start. It didn't do this last
week. But this test is a better idea, thanks.. 

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Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane

2005-01-30 Thread frengoGorgia
Il lun, 2005-01-31 alle 01:00, JoeHill ha scritto:
> Hey, bud, when you get back in your office, could you remember to *never* set 
> an
> out-of-office auto-reply for an account you use on a mailing list?
> 
> Many thanks!

I SUBSCRIBE AND JOIN to the petition.

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[newbie] interesting news story

2005-01-30 Thread Julie Sloan
On the AP today:

Activists Urge Free Open-Source Software
http://tinyurl.com/5hezf
Julie
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[newbie] To Chris Lane

2005-01-30 Thread JoeHill

Hey, bud, when you get back in your office, could you remember to *never* set an
out-of-office auto-reply for an account you use on a mailing list?

Many thanks!

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Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?

2005-01-30 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
JoeHill wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:52:19 -0500
RickSisler disseminated the following:
 

I thought the ~/.bash_profile was sourced only at login
   

Every term you open is considered a 'login'. That's why you see '7 users'
when you have 7 terms open, even though only you are logged in. Or is it '8
users'? Whatever. You get the idea.
 

It depends on the "term" program, and how it is started. The default 
start of xterm is not a login. But there is a command line option to 
make it one. I am not sure about other "term"s.

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[newbie] RSS Feed Readers

2005-01-30 Thread Chris
Has anyone gotten Bottomfeeder 3.8 to work with MDK 10.1?  It doesn't want to 
save my browser settings, if keep defaulting to kfmclient openProfile 
webbrowsing, which I assume is the web browsing profile in Konqueror, however 
that doesn't work either whether its webbrowsing or web browsing.  I can use 
Firefox, and it works pretty good, however, I like using Bottomfeeder for its 
ability to setup feed subscriptions.

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Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?

2005-01-30 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:52:19 -0500
RickSisler disseminated the following:

> I thought the ~/.bash_profile was sourced only at login

Every term you open is considered a 'login'. That's why you see '7 users'
when you have 7 terms open, even though only you are logged in. Or is it '8
users'? Whatever. You get the idea.

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Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?

2005-01-30 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:52:19 -0500
RickSisler disseminated the following:

> Any idea's ?

Change the script so that it is only run if fetchmail is *not* already running.

Here's the one I use:

ps ax > ~/tmp/bashterm
grep fetchmail ~/tmp/bashterm > /dev/null
if [ $? -ne 0 ] ; then
fetchmail
fi

This is in my .bashrc under '#exec on startup', though, and don't ask me how it
works, I, as usual, copied and pasted it from somewhere.

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[newbie] 10.1 install problem

2005-01-30 Thread Mike Adolf
Just installed 10.1 Official on a compac preserio.  The installation video 
appeared normal during installation, but when I rebooted I just got a black 
screen.  How does one even begin to solve that kind of problem?

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Re: [newbie] KWallet

2005-01-30 Thread Chris
On Sunday 30 January 2005 03:11 pm, John Layt wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 06:02, Chris wrote:
> > However, I'm still not sure about the purpose of KWallet.  Is it just to
> > store passwords I use?
>
> If you go into the KDE Control Centre, there's a GUI config under Security.
>
> KWallet is an interactive password tool, it integrates with KDE
> applications that require passwords, like konqueror and kopete, remembering
> all your passwords for you and filling them in as needed, so you only have
> to remember one master password.  It also stores form completion data, and
> pretty much anything else the app programmer wants it to.  Note, the app
> designer has to code to use it.
>
> Some links:
> http://docs.kde.org/en/3.3/kdeutils/kwallet/
> http://www.staikos.net/~staikos/presentations/August2003/kwallet/
>
> John.
>

Thanks John, guess I really don't need it then, since for browsing I use 
mozilla and all my form info and passwords are stored there.

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Re: [newbie] KWallet

2005-01-30 Thread John Layt
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 06:02, Chris wrote:
>
> However, I'm still not sure about the purpose of KWallet.  Is it just to
> store passwords I use?

If you go into the KDE Control Centre, there's a GUI config under Security.

KWallet is an interactive password tool, it integrates with KDE applications 
that require passwords, like konqueror and kopete, remembering all your 
passwords for you and filling them in as needed, so you only have to remember 
one master password.  It also stores form completion data, and pretty much 
anything else the app programmer wants it to.  Note, the app designer has to 
code to use it.

Some links:
http://docs.kde.org/en/3.3/kdeutils/kwallet/
http://www.staikos.net/~staikos/presentations/August2003/kwallet/

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[newbie] Audigy 2 not recognized 10.1

2005-01-30 Thread Rick Kunath
I'm hoping someone can point me to some ideas on the sound issues I am having.

This is a fresh MDK 10.1 install.

The soundcard is an Audigy 2 Value card, and works correctly on Windows 2k 
(this is a dual-boot machine.) The motherboard (DFI PM12-TL) also has an 
integrated AC97 sound card (VIA chipset drivers), but I have it disabled in 
BIOS. The BIOS is set to "non plug-and-play OS".

Lsmod does not show any sound modules loading, so I am guessing MDK didn't 
load them, thinking with no sound card, they wouldn't be needed?

On a hardware scan from MCC, I get this output?

Identification
Vendor: (null)

Description:  

Media class:  MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO

Connection
Bus:  PCI

Bus PCI #:  0

PCI device #:  10

PCI function #:  0

Vendor ID:  4354

Device ID:  8

Sub vendor ID:  4354

Sub device ID:   097

Driver
Module:  unknown


I am wondering what steps I might take to get the card recognized? I Googled 
aplenty and the card seems to be a supported card (that's why I bought it), 
but does not get recognized. 

I don't know if having the motherboard sound card disabled is contributing to 
the issue or not, but when I enabled it, it did not appear in the hardware 
list either (the previous output was the same), and the only effect was a 
"failed" indication when the "new hardware" test scrolled across the screen 
during boot up.

I've installed a lot of soundcards in Mandrake Linux, and have had a few 
issues over the years, but this one has me stumped.

Ideas and thoughts will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrakelinux Mailing List Etiquette

2005-01-30 Thread Len Lawrence
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:58:37 -0500
JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > If you use Reply to get up a form, then erase the subject and type in
> > something different, you are hijacking.
> >
> > If you use View > Headers > All Headers on this message you will see a line
> > that starts with 'References;' .  Since your message has the ID
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] that will be in the line. 
> > In other words, my answer to you is connected by thread.  When you hijack,
> > your 'new subject' retains that thread connection.  This makes for
> > difficulties:
> Thanks, thats the area I wasn't clear on. I thought the mails were only 
> threaded on the subject, hence a change of subject wouldnt cause a problem.
> > 1) The thread becomes fragmented and difficult to follow.
> >
> > 2) Many people follow or ignore a thread according to their own interests
> > and time available.  If the original thread was being ignored by the person
> > best able to help you he will not see it.
> >
> > > I dont deal with common sense much so I said I'd ask :)
> >
> > Asking *is* common sense.  I hope it's clearer now ;-)
> It is indeed. Thanks again Anne.
> 
> Jarlath

Don't feel too bad about it.  I had been using email for 25 years and I still 
got caught out on the subject != thread business.  

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Re: [newbie] Mandrakelinux Mailing List Etiquette

2005-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Sunday 30 Jan 2005 21:58, JR wrote:
> > Asking *is* common sense.  I hope it's clearer now ;-)
>
> It is indeed. Thanks again Anne.
>
You're welcome 

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[newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?

2005-01-30 Thread RickSisler
Hi All,
I thought the ~/.bash_profile was sourced only at login but mine it
seems, gets read everytime I start a terminal session, example: 
I start an aterm and have a custom bash setup as many do. I have
this line for fetchmail in ~/.bash_profile ..

# start fetchmail fetching
fetchmail -d 600

So when I start the aterm, this is at the beginning:


This is BASH 2.05b - DISPLAY on :0.0

Hello, ricks
Current date: Sat Jan 29 19:27:08 EST 2005
Learn as if you were going to live forever. Live as if you were
going to die tomorrow. --Mahatma Gandhi
fetchmail: can't accept options while a background fetchmail is running.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $>


I keep commenting out lines in the startup files but it isn't
pointing to the offender .. and it's not terminal specific ..

Any idea's ?

Thx for any help
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Re: [newbie] Mandrakelinux Mailing List Etiquette

2005-01-30 Thread JR
> Since you are running KMail, you can easily set up threading from the
> Folder tool. (You'll have to do it on a folder-by-folder basis.) Then
> select (KMail) Configure / Appearance and check the box "Open threads that
> contain ...".
 

Thanks cmg,

I followed your steps. It actually turns out they are the default settings in 
my case, so I didnt have to do anything - but it's good to know.

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Re: [newbie] Program to keep track of passwords

2005-01-30 Thread Dave Ashmore
Paul Smith wrote:
Dear All
I am looking for a program to keep track, safely, of one's passwords. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Paul
PS: Since I am a GMail user, please be sure that you reply to the list.
 

Also could try this one I use.
Figaro's Password manager.
As root in konsole type:
urpmi fpm
Assuming you have plf source configured I think or go to:
http://fpm.sourceforge.net/
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[newbie] KWallet

2005-01-30 Thread Chris
When I first started up 10.1 KWallet came up and I said I didn't want to 
configure it.  After seeing the thread on it I decided to do some looking 
around my system.  I found a kwalletrc file in ~/.kde/share/config/kwalletrc.  

[Wallet]
Close When Idle=false
Enabled=false
First Use=false
Use One Wallet=true

It initially had these four lines in it.  I tried just changing the 'enabled' 
to true, and 'first use' to true.  No luck.  Going into KDE Control Center > 
Security > Kwallet will allow you to set it up.  It seems kind of tricky and 
it took me a few tries to get it to accept my default wallet.  By the way, 
clicking on the System > Configuration > Other > KDE Wallet seems to do 
nothing.  Kwalletmanager is located in /usr/bin/kwalletmanager.  Running 
kwalletmanager from the cli puts an icon for kwalletmanager in my system 
tray.  My kwalletrc file now looks like this:

[Auto Allow]
mywallet=kwalletmanager

[Wallet]
Close When Idle=false
Close on Screensaver=false
Default Wallet=mywallet
Enabled=true
First Use=false
Idle Timeout=10
Launch Manager=true
Leave Manager Open=true
Leave Open=true
Prompt on Open=true
Use One Wallet=true

However, I'm still not sure about the purpose of KWallet.  Is it just to store 
passwords I use?

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Re: [newbie] Mandrakelinux Mailing List Etiquette

2005-01-30 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 30 January 2005 04:58 pm, JR wrote:

>>> whack a very good explanation from Anne about the evils of hijacking

JR:

IIRC, the MS mail clients do not support threading (possibly because they're 
too busy importing various kinds of system-busting malware?), with the result 
that recent immigrants from Windows seem to be the worst offenders about 
hijacking. To your credit, you do bottom post -- most ex-Windowsers tend to 
top post.

Since you are running KMail, you can easily set up threading from the Folder 
tool. (You'll have to do it on a folder-by-folder basis.) Then select (KMail) 
Configure / Appearance and check the box "Open threads that contain ...". 
That will cause KMail to close all threads except those containing new, 
unread, or important messages as well as watched threads. (You can set those 
flags -- and others -- by right clicking on the message.) Warning: While this 
will make slogging through your mail much simpler, it may also lead to 
posting nastygrams to people who break or hijack threads.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] j2re-1_4_1_01 where to get it?

2005-01-30 Thread Graham Watkins
black starfish wrote:
I keep getting 1.5 and it always crashes my browsres

Try www.blackdown.org/java-linux/java2-status.
It's where I got mine.
Cheers,
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Re: [newbie] Program to keep track of passwords

2005-01-30 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:29:13 -0500, Dan Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul have a look at PWmanager from here,  I've used it before as i
> never liked the intrusive behavior of the kde thingey.
> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=10277

Thanks, Dan. PWmanager is what I was looking for.

Regards,

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Re: [newbie] Mandrakelinux Mailing List Etiquette

2005-01-30 Thread JR
> If you use Reply to get up a form, then erase the subject and type in
> something different, you are hijacking.
>
> If you use View > Headers > All Headers on this message you will see a line
> that starts with 'References;' .  Since your message has the ID
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] that will be in the line. 
> In other words, my answer to you is connected by thread.  When you hijack,
> your 'new subject' retains that thread connection.  This makes for
> difficulties:
Thanks, thats the area I wasn't clear on. I thought the mails were only 
threaded on the subject, hence a change of subject wouldnt cause a problem.
> 1) The thread becomes fragmented and difficult to follow.
>
> 2) Many people follow or ignore a thread according to their own interests
> and time available.  If the original thread was being ignored by the person
> best able to help you he will not see it.
>
> > I dont deal with common sense much so I said I'd ask :)
>
> Asking *is* common sense.  I hope it's clearer now ;-)
It is indeed. Thanks again Anne.

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Re: [newbie] no memory left can't get to kde

2005-01-30 Thread njcross
I have now though,sorry.
At 7:46 AM + 1/30/05, Anne Wilson wrote:

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 delete some files.How do I do this outside kde?
I know you were under stress, so we'll forgive you this time - but you
*didn't* read the
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/ABeginnersStartWithMandrakeLinux
where it tells you about Hijacking!
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Re: [newbie] I want to get

2005-01-30 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Igor B wrote:
I want to get a code of all Linux including terminal with shell and 
graphic environment


If you are after the source code for the programs that ship with 
Mandrake, you could grab the source RPMs, and install them. They include 
the source archive for each package, as well as the patches that were 
applied to them. You can also find links to the source for a lot of 
packages on http://freshmeat.net. Or you could take a look at 
http://www.gentoo.org  - it is a source-based 
distribution - you build everything from the source code.

Mikkel
PS - Linux is just the kernel - a Linux distribution contains software 
from many sources...



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Re: [newbie] Program to keep track of passwords

2005-01-30 Thread Dan Gordon
On January 30, 2005 10:18 am, Paul Smith wrote:
>
> I had tried that before, but with no success. Thanks anyway, Bryan.
> Is not there a similar program which I could use?
>
> Paul
>
> PS: Since I am a GMail user, please be sure that you reply to the
> list.

Paul have a look at PWmanager from here,  I've used it before as i 
never liked the intrusive behavior of the kde thingey.
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=10277

Regards,
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[newbie] I want to get

2005-01-30 Thread Igor B
I want to get a code of all Linux including terminal with shell and graphic environment
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Re: [newbie] Program to keep track of passwords

2005-01-30 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:14:16 -0500, Bryan Phinney
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Star  |  System | Configuration | KDE | Security | KDE Wallet
> 
> I don't use it myself, but that is where it is on my system.

I had tried that before, but with no success. Thanks anyway, Bryan. Is
not there a similar program which I could use?

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Re: [newbie] Program to keep track of passwords

2005-01-30 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 30 January 2005 09:50, Anne Wilson wrote:

Star  |  System | Configuration | KDE | Security | KDE Wallet

I don't use it myself, but that is where it is on my system.

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Re: [newbie] Program to keep track of passwords

2005-01-30 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:50:47 +, Anne Wilson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > - From a root console, try
> > > kwalletmanager
> I'm out of ideas, then, Paul.  Try asking on the kde list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks anyway, Anne.

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Re: [newbie] Program to keep track of passwords

2005-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Sunday 30 Jan 2005 14:37, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:31:18 +, Anne Wilson
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > - From a root console, try
> > kwalletmanager
I'm out of ideas, then, Paul.  Try asking on the kde list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [newbie] Program to keep track of passwords

2005-01-30 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:31:18 +, Anne Wilson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - From a root console, try
> kwalletmanager

No success, Anne:

# kwalletmanager
Link points to "/tmp/ksocket-root"
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
Link points to "/tmp/kde-root"
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
kbuildsycoca running...
Reusing existing ksycoca
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: Property 'X-KDE-Weight' is defined multiple
times (KOfficeFilter)

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Re: [newbie] Program to keep track of passwords

2005-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Sunday 30 Jan 2005 14:06, Paul Smith wrote:
>
> Thanks, Anne. Kwallet is indeed installed.
>
> Paul
>
- From a root console, try
kwalletmanager

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Re: [newbie] Program to keep track of passwords

2005-01-30 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:43:17 +, Anne Wilson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks, Ian. It is intriguing that
> >
> > $ kwallet
> > bash: kwallet: command not found
> >
> > and
> >
> > # urpmi kwallet
> > Everything already installed
> >
> Kwallet is part of kde.  I presume you do have kde installed?  If I remember
> correctly, the first time you use a password to access anything a dialogue
> box opens asking you if you want to use kwallet.  If you say no at that point
> I think it is disabled.  I'm sure there must be a way to enable it again,
> though.  Meanwhile, to see whether it is installed on your system, run

Thanks, Anne. Kwallet is indeed installed.

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Re: [newbie] Program to keep track of passwords

2005-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Sunday 30 Jan 2005 13:28, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:27:45 +, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I am looking for a program to keep track, safely, of one's passwords.
> > > Any ideas?
> >
> > Doesn't Kwallet do all that?
>
> Thanks, Ian. It is intriguing that
>
> $ kwallet
> bash: kwallet: command not found
>
> and
>
> # urpmi kwallet
> Everything already installed
>
Kwallet is part of kde.  I presume you do have kde installed?  If I remember 
correctly, the first time you use a password to access anything a dialogue 
box opens asking you if you want to use kwallet.  If you say no at that point 
I think it is disabled.  I'm sure there must be a way to enable it again, 
though.  Meanwhile, to see whether it is installed on your system, run

slocate kwallet

(Slocate may have to be installed first - it's not an automatic part of your 
install, but it's too useful to miss.)

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Re: [newbie] Mandrakelinux Mailing List Etiquette

2005-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Sunday 30 Jan 2005 16:58, JR wrote:
> Would someone clarify this for me please?
>
> "If you use Reply but change the subject, you are hijacking."
>
> Does this mean if you change the 'subject' field, or the topic of the
> thread? Reading it, it would seem to mean the former. But common sense
> tells me the latter.
>
If you use Reply to get up a form, then erase the subject and type in 
something different, you are hijacking.

If you use View > Headers > All Headers on this message you will see a line 
that starts with 'References;' .  Since your message has the ID 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] that will be in the line.  In 
other words, my answer to you is connected by thread.  When you hijack, your 
'new subject' retains that thread connection.  This makes for difficulties:

1) The thread becomes fragmented and difficult to follow.

2) Many people follow or ignore a thread according to their own interests and 
time available.  If the original thread was being ignored by the person best 
able to help you he will not see it.

> I dont deal with common sense much so I said I'd ask :)
>
Asking *is* common sense.  I hope it's clearer now ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Program to keep track of passwords

2005-01-30 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:27:45 +, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am looking for a program to keep track, safely, of one's passwords. Any
> > ideas?
> Doesn't Kwallet do all that?

Thanks, Ian. It is intriguing that

$ kwallet
bash: kwallet: command not found

and

# urpmi kwallet
Everything already installed

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Re: [newbie] Program to keep track of passwords

2005-01-30 Thread Ian
On Sunday 30 Jan 2005 10:49, Paul Smith wrote:
> Dear All
>
> I am looking for a program to keep track, safely, of one's passwords. Any
> ideas?
Doesn't Kwallet do all that?

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[newbie] Mandrakelinux Mailing List Etiquette

2005-01-30 Thread JR
Would someone clarify this for me please?

"If you use Reply but change the subject, you are hijacking."

Does this mean if you change the 'subject' field, or the topic of the thread?
Reading it, it would seem to mean the former. But common sense tells me the 
latter.

I dont deal with common sense much so I said I'd ask :)

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Re: [newbie] Linux commands...???

2005-01-30 Thread Pablo Ortuzar
On Saturday 29 January 2005 21:11, Julie Sloan wrote:


> Hi
> Thank you Pablo for the explanation.  Now I have a question:  when I
> open kppp and choose "configure," my modem device is shown as /dev/ttyS0.
>
> How is that the same or different from eth0 ?  I am using an external
> modem since my Winmodem wouldn't configure for Mandrake10.0.
>
> Also, when I go to MCC > Network and Internet > Make New Connection, on
> the second or third screen I am asked to choose my provider, which shows
> a bunch of European providers but none so far as I can tell, that apply
> to me.
>
> I do not have a problem connecting, just a problem understanding this
> method of setting up a new connection.
>
> thanks,
> Julie
Hi,

modems and ethernet cards are different:  you must use one OR the other.
If you want to set up a connection via eth0, in MCC > Network and Internet > 
Make New Connection, choose "ADSL" or "cable", depending on what your ISP 
(Internet Service Provider) uses. 
You're right: the list of available providers *is* very incomplete, and I do 
not see any way of adding options. I find the  MCC>Network and Internet 
interface so confusing that I can no longer recall how *I* got connected!
You'll have to get help from someone else: try the Mandrakelinux documentation 
(it's in your computer) and the TWiki: 
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome
-- 
Pablo Ortúzar



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[newbie] Program to keep track of passwords

2005-01-30 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All

I am looking for a program to keep track, safely, of one's passwords. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

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