Re: [newbie] Installing Zip drive on 8.0
I'm not sure,but I think there might be way do that during boot up in interactive mode,in the part where you mount or unmount local drives. Might be worth a try before re-installing ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 Jeremy D wrote: > Are you adding the drive to your machine (i.e. > post-install of Mandrake)? My parallel port Zip100 > drive was detected during installation (v8.0) -- works > great! I had fewer problems with it than I had with > my floppy drive (permission stuff if I remember > correctly). > > All the necessary drivers should be installed when you > set up Mandrake. > > Jeremy > > > --- Gordon Burgess-Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Can anyone tell me how to do this please? >> >>Thanks >> >>Gordon >> >> >> >>>Want to buy your Pack or Services from >>> > MandrakeSoft? > >>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com >> >> > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hostility Levels on the list
That can be the other way around as well. In the past I have used my computer for many things other than the internet. In fact this list has led me to spend more time on the internet, because I am learning how to use my computer for reasons that are not neccesarily internet related. When I do use the internet (other than this list) it is only for short periods of time, to retrieve some data. I studied COBOL and RPG, when I had only a foggy idea of what the "Super Information Highway" (as we called it back then) was and before I had ever touched a PC.(remember coding sheets?)Some youger people may not realize that there were computers before the internet and they were (and still are) very useful, even without the internet.I have been using Linux for about three years now and consider myself a seasoned newbie. However, when it comes to internet and email topics I am just scatcthing the surface and I need to have even the basics explained before I get a grasp on what is being discussed.LAN networking is completely over my head. Using Linux and following this list has taught me more about the underlying processes of the internet and everything else,than DOS or Winduhs ever did, including how Winduhs works.It seems we have a vast variety of levels and areas of expertise on the list and I celebrate that. The more variety, the more opportunities for learning. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 John Clegg wrote: > Please don't assume that just because someone is a Linux newbie they are an > email newbie. Some people have their HTML habits DEEPLY ingrained! > > John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] why won't panel KEEP mandrake launchers from menu
Have you tried to "save session" before exiting? Sometimes, (probably not in this instance) it helps to specify if you are in GNOME or KDE. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 The computer can't tell you the emotional story. It can give you the exact mathematical design, but what's missing is the eyebrows. - Frank Zappa Manuel Drake wrote: >I can add a launcher to my panel *manually*, and I can add a launcher to >my panel from menus *other* than mandrake menu, but if I try to add a >launcher from the mandrake menu directly, it disappears when I login next. > >>From what I can determine, this is a bug, as others have mentioned seeing >it. > >Anything I can do to fix this? > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing/Running Ximian
You would definitely notice some difference, if Ximian were installed. For one thing, when you login the first time there is a setup screen. Until Ximian, I was still just flirting with GNOME and flipping back and forth from KDE. Now I haven't used KDE at all in over a week. I did the automatic install from the Ximian site and it went smooth. Took 9 hours, but was well worth the wait. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 Why did the Lord give us so much quickness of movement unless it was to avoid responsibility with? Peter Rymshaw wrote: >Last week I downloaded about 10 gnome RPMs from >Ximian, including the gnome-core ximian file. Today I >decided that I would install them, but the message >that I got back from each attempt was that they were >already installed. So, I assumed that what I thought >was a download was actually a download-intall >combined. (I was glad that I had desided to download >the core program first.) > >But I haven't seen any difference in any of the >programs, so I decided to try to find out what version >of gnome I was running, Ximian something or not. I >couldn't find anything like version on the gnome >desktop, so I decided to do a "locate ximian" and all >I found were the downloaded RPMs. > >Ximian says that it is not necessary to first remove >existing gnome, but would that do it? And why does the >RPM installer fail with a message telling me that the >programs have already been installed? Same thing? >Can't distinguish gnome from ximian-gnome? > >Help! > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gnome desktop icons after nautilusi
I have had problems with Nautilus, so I used GMC for my desktop. I'm just curious about these error messages I get when I run nautilus from a terminal. Any ideas what kind of a can of worms I'm opening here? Eel-WARNING **: GConf error: Object Activation Framework error: OAF problem description: '' Gdk-WARNING **: Missing charsets in FontSet creation Gdk-WARNING **: ISO8859-1 Gdk-WARNING **: ISO8859-1 Segmentation fault [chal@localhost chal]$ ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #21711 Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: >Load gmc and look for the "desktop" section in its preferences. When finished, >save your session in the way you would like GNOME to be whenever you load it up. >You can run the command "save-session --gui" to do this. > >On 17 Sep 2001 10:52:59 -0400, Paul Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Will using gmc repopulate my desktop icons? How do I turn gmc desktop >>control on and off? >> >>Running gmc does not set desktop control on, right? >> >>-Paul Rodríguez >> >>On 18 Sep 2001 00:02:50 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: >> >>>On 17 Sep 2001 09:21:35 -0400, Paul Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> After starting up Mandrake 8.0f2 in Gnome, I opened nautilus (from a terminal), and deselected "Use Nautilus to draw the desktop". This than made my screen blink for a second, and viola, handed control of the desktop back to the gdm. Fine, but where are my icons? Does anybody know how to repopulate a Gnome desktop with icons (i.e. trash and home)? Thanks! -Paul Rodríguez >>>"Use Nautilus to draw the desktop" means that Nautilus will manage what is >>> >on > >>>your desktop, including icons. You can either turn that back on, use GMC >>> >(the > >>>old GNOME default file manager) instead, or have nothing at all (as you have >>>now). >>> > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: journaling and upgrading (Re: [newbie] a filesystem question)
Tom Brinkman wrote: >On Monday 17 September 2001 10:57 am, Matt Greer escribió: > >>on 9/17/01 10:20 AM, Tom Brinkman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> but I'd recommend switching to a journaling FS ASAP. You should >>>have already. >>> >>What exactly is a journaling file system? What does it mean that it >>journals? >> > >http://www.google.com/search?q=journaling+file+system&btnG=Google+Search > >>Also, with 8.1 around the corner, what does it take to upgrade? If I >>were to upgrade 8.1 over my 8.0 system, do most things remain intact? >>Do I need to reconfigure everything? Anything to watch out for? >> > > I never upgrade. I always do fresh installs. > I have never upgraded either. It seems that all the experts on this list are against it, but you can also do a fresh install without formatting your home partititon. I've only done it that way once and I'm not sure what you want to remain intact. I think any apps that you replace will have to be reconfigured. The advantage to me, was to keep my data intact. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #21711 > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Libarary compatibility
Thanx, that sounds like it ought to do it. I must have had those installed before, but didn't realize it. I'll give it a go. ShalomOut Chal Elder Pcusa Registered Linux user #217118 Charles A Edwards wrote: >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles A. Punch >>Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:06 PM >>To: Sridhar Dhanapalan >>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: [newbie] Libarary compatibility >> >> >>It's this particular one I'm having the problem with. >>libc5-1.0-2.i386.rpm. I used it once in the past and it >>worked fine. I even had saved it on a zip disk, but my zip >>drive died. I downloaded it from Caldera's site and did the >>same thing I did last time, but this time it didn't work. I >>get a error message. If I unpack it from software manager, it >>tells me it is already installed, which I don't think it >>could possibly be. I have re-installed 8.0 since the time it >>worked and besides that WP8 will not install, as it did the >>last time. The only libraries on my system that I am aware >>of, would be what comes stock with 8.0. If I unpack it from >>Package manager, it does nothing. No big deal though, the >>main reason I wanted it was to print envelopes, because I was >>having trouble getting Star Office to print them right. I >>have since figured out what I was doing wrong there, so this >>was actually a blessing. I learned something new in the >>process. Now there is no hurry to get WP to work so, if I do >>it's just iceing on the cake. Thanx for your concern, not >>only on this, but on the info about GNOME you gave me in the >>past. I am now running Ximian exclusively and not having any >>major problems. I am also planning to get the powerpack when >>8.1 is released, so I'll probably wait until then to *monkey >>with it any more. >> > > >To install WP on either 8.0 or 8.1 you need to install 2 additional >pkgs. >libc-5.3.12-35mdk >ld.so-1.9.11-4mdk >Both are Cooker pkg but the easiest way to find them is using >www.rpmfind.net > >libc will now install with no conflicts. >When you install ld.so set it to upgrade and Replace both files and pkgs. > >I am using WP on both an 8.0 Ximian system and a system with 8.1 Beta3. > > Charles (-: > >Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. >And for too many there are now no tomorrows. > > > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] burning iso
Run sndconfig and listen to the way Linus Torvalds pronounces it. Hey, he wrote it, so I think he should decide. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user 3217118 Colin Jenkins wrote: >Hello D., > >Saturday, September 15, 2001, 11:45:14 PM, you wrote: > >DLW> Hello list > >DLW> I'm so newbie I don't know if linux is pronounced lin like sin or line like sine. > >DLW> I have been lurking for months and enjoy this list. > >DLW> I installed 8.0 with no problems that haven't been addressed here until today, >discounting >DLW> my own bumbling. > >DLW> Just downloaded Raklet iso's and burnt cdroms, however result is a cdrom with >the file >DLW> "mandrakelinux-8.1-raklet-beta3-cd1.i586.iso" rather than a cdrom full of files. > Where have >DLW> I erred? > >DLW> I used neroburning (gulp) windows 98 > >DLW> tia > >DLW> Lee Wiggers > > > > >Are you sure you selected CD-Rom (ISO) from the Nero menu ? >I use nero, and have had no problem burning iso's (till my burner died >yesterday :(( ) > > >Colin Jenkins >ICQ: 650611 registered linux user 223862 >Use your own judgement then do as I say > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] pdf
chris swain wrote: >Oh and while your at it does any one know how to delete printer cues :) >28 pages of pdf /junk > I use -Kups -Manage Jobs once there, you can "remove" or "hold" any running jobs. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user 3217118 > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Libarary compatibility
It's this particular one I'm having the problem with. libc5-1.0-2.i386.rpm. I used it once in the past and it worked fine. I even had saved it on a zip disk, but my zip drive died. I downloaded it from Caldera's site and did the same thing I did last time, but this time it didn't work. I get a error message. If I unpack it from software manager, it tells me it is already installed, which I don't think it could possibly be. I have re-installed 8.0 since the time it worked and besides that WP8 will not install, as it did the last time. The only libraries on my system that I am aware of, would be what comes stock with 8.0. If I unpack it from Package manager, it does nothing. No big deal though, the main reason I wanted it was to print envelopes, because I was having trouble getting Star Office to print them right. I have since figured out what I was doing wrong there, so this was actually a blessing. I learned something new in the process. Now there is no hurry to get WP to work so, if I do it's just iceing on the cake. Thanx for your concern, not only on this, but on the info about GNOME you gave me in the past. I am now running Ximian exclusively and not having any major problems. I am also planning to get the powerpack when 8.1 is released, so I'll probably wait until then to *monkey with it any more. *notice the Ximian influence? ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: >I did a quick search for "libc" at rpmfind.net and I found a number of Mandrake >and Mandrake Cooker packages. What is the problem? > >On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:17:21 -0400, "Charles A. Punch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > >>Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:18:01 -0400, mcoady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>>In my ongoing attempt to get Mandrake8 to accept an earlier version of WP8, >>>> >I > >>>tried to install the earlier library libc5 via rpm. >>> >>>>However I get the message: "file /etc/nsswitch.conf from install of >>>> >>>libc5-5.4.38-3 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.2.2-3.mdk >>> >>>>Does this not mean that the older library cannot coexist with a newer one? >>>> >>>Is the libc package a Mandrake 8.0 RPM? >>> >>I am having a similar problem. The only RPM I could find was a Caldera >>one. This is the same one that I used before and it worked fine. WhenI >>try to unpack it, I get an error message. I have since made many >>changes to my system, so I am thinking that it may be another conflict >>within my system and not a problem with the RPM itself. Just guessing. >> >>ShalomOut >> Chal >>Elder PCUSA >>Registered Linux user #217118 >> >> >> >>>If so, try this: >>> >>>1. Make a backup of /etc/nsswitch.conf >>>2. Install libc5 >>>3. Restore the old /etc/nsswitch.conf, in place of the new one >>>4. Install WP8. >>> > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT?
I have refrained from posting OT since Dennis HAVLIK posted about kicking people off the list. However, that was not the only one reason. The other is that I have had arguments in the past about posting OT, and I see some of the same people who flamed me about my opinion are now posting OT themselves, because this is not just another OT, this is different. This topic about the nation's tragedy is something that most people can't seem to ignore. Someone posted calling for a show of hands. I vote to allow OT. Someone else inquired if everyone had stopped because of Dennis HAVLIK's post. With all due respect to Mr. HAVLIK, the main reason I have refrained recently, is out of respect to those who feel so strongly against posting OT, that they have gone somewhat off the deep end emotionally and resorted to name calling. I don't want to be responsible for driving someone to that extreme. We have enough of a problem. The purpose of discussing the tragedy, is to try to work through it, not to create more of a problem. Unity is more important than my piddling "freedom of speech." I offer an invitation to anyone who wants to discuss this, or anything else off list, until this is cleared up ( and I'll try to actually post off list this time). I have a great deal of respect for everyone on this list, even those whom I have had differences with in the past. At the same time I don't wan to stick a gig in someone who is already hurting emotionally. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user 3217118 Shalom does not mean peace (in the sense of absence of conflict). It means completeness and fulfillment. It could possibly be understood as "peace of mind." Paraphrased from the exeGesis Paralell Bible, an Aramaic translation and transliteration by exegete Herb Jahn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Libarary compatibility
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: >On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:18:01 -0400, mcoady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>In my ongoing attempt to get Mandrake8 to accept an earlier version of WP8, I >> >tried to install the earlier library libc5 via rpm. > >>However I get the message: "file /etc/nsswitch.conf from install of >> >libc5-5.4.38-3 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.2.2-3.mdk > >>Does this not mean that the older library cannot coexist with a newer one? >> > >Is the libc package a Mandrake 8.0 RPM? > I am having a similar problem. The only RPM I could find was a Caldera one. This is the same one that I used before and it worked fine. WhenI try to unpack it, I get an error message. I have since made many changes to my system, so I am thinking that it may be another conflict within my system and not a problem with the RPM itself. Just guessing. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 >If so, try this: > >1. Make a backup of /etc/nsswitch.conf >2. Install libc5 >3. Restore the old /etc/nsswitch.conf, in place of the new one >4. Install WP8. > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay for email access by volume
Randy Kramer wrote: (Except that my ISP has changed his rules since I signed up, and now considers that if I remain connected for more than 4 to 12 hours (I forget the exact rules), I am "hanging", and he takes it upon himself to disconnect me. I can reconnect, but he seems to have his watchful eye on me -- I used to get that kind of treatment from AOL, but I changed to earthlink, when I got serious about Linux and have never had that problem since. Another thing that struck me as strange, was that AOL gave me about 3 numbers and when I complained about waiting too l,ong to comnect, they gave me 3 more. Earthlink gave me just one number and I have never had a long wait to connect or been cut off. I hope this don't sound like a commercial, but I gotta tell it like it is. About the discussion of inappropriate topics, I feel that we should try to get along with each other first, before we start trying to save the world. I would like to see everyone on this list try to respect each other a little more. Some already are, but the majority are not. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Backward Compatability
I lost my backward compatability rpm. It's the one that makes Word Perfect8 (and other progs as well, I believe) work on newer versions of Linux. Can't remeber the exact name (*.i386.rpm. something something). If anyone can direct me to the rpm, I would be very grateful. Thanx in advance. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: breaking news in USA
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > > Either way, I do not dare put the American people on the same level as > > terrorists. The Government, possibly, but not the people. > > That's the point I'm trying to make. However, the government is elected by the > people, for the people. If we can actually get the American populace to actually > _think_ about what is going on here, they will hopefully realise that _they_ are > the ones who can stop this. For example, they could vote for somebody more > globally responsible at the next election. I think that wall street has more to do with who gets in office, than those little levers the government lets people pull on election day to pacify them. The blame for this is not limited to any one country or ethnic group. It's evil people in high places. Some of them are American and some are not. It also didn't just happen out of the blue yesterday. The process that alloweed this to happen has been brewing for quite some time. These people weren't always in high places. We allowed them to get there by accepting moral corruption and sometimes even condoning it. I am not talking about the illusion that if you vote properly, that everything will be allright. It goes much deeper than that. If we keep letting the people who are responsible hide behind ethnicity and political systems, we have truly allowed them to decieve us. The sad thing about American politics, is that it is more concerned with what is politically correct, than what is just. Still, I think that this is the best country compared to others (not because of the government). Maybe that's just homegrown predjudice. I think that people need to stop looking to the corrupt political systems for answers to these problems and concentrate on promoting social consciousness and morality. That goes for all countries. If not, the world will continue these witch-hunts looking for a scapegoat, while the guilty ones laugh at us from behind the veil. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA registered Linux user #217118 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: breaking news in USA
Point taken. I apologize. I totally misunderstood you. That was a Homer Simpson quote, wasn't it? ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 Lanman wrote: >It was intended as a humourous tease regarding your minor oversight in >sending your emails to the list when you intended to send them off-list, >Charles. Lighten up. No need to get sarcastic. Perhaps a little more sleep, >and a lot less caffeine are in order here? > >Lanman > > >On Wednesday 12 September 2001 12:33 am, Charles A. Punch wrote: > >>Lanman wrote: >> >>>Doh! >>> >>Well that Homer Simpsonian response surely clears it all up. What a >>vocabulary! I thank the other people who gave good advice rather than >>whatever that was supposed to be. >> >>ShalomOut >> Chal >> >>Elder PCUSA >>Registered Linux user #217118 >> >>>On Tuesday 11 September 2001 05:33 pm, Charles A. Punch wrote: >>> >>>>My bad! That's weird, I'm using the reply button (rather that reply all) >>>>in Mozilla. Good thing I have nothing to hide eh? Sorry, I don't mean to >>>>clog up the list, but it seems that I am not alone in that today anyway. >>>>I guess I'll have to cut & paste the address to send a new message and >>>>get it to go off list . If this one goes on list, it's definitely my >>>>browser. If it don't, I must have hit the wrong button last time. >>>>ShalomOut >>>> Chal >>>> >>>>Elder PCUSA >>>>Registered Linux user #217118 >>>> >>>>Randy Kramer wrote: >>>> >>>>>Charles A. Punch wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I'm replying off list, >>>>>> >>>>>Charles, >>>>> >>>>>Your off list replies seem to be appearing on the list. ;-) >>>>> >>>>>Randy Kramer >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >>>>>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com >>>>> >>>>>message.footer >>>>> >>>>>Content-Type: >>>>> >>>>>text/plain >>>>>Content-Encoding: >>>>> >>>>>8bit >>>>> >>> >>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="message.footer" >>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >>>Content-Description: >>> >>> > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="message.footer" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Content-Description: > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: breaking news in USA
Lanman wrote: >Doh! > Well that Homer Simpsonian response surely clears it all up. What a vocabulary! I thank the other people who gave good advice rather than whatever that was supposed to be. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 > > > >On Tuesday 11 September 2001 05:33 pm, Charles A. Punch wrote: > >>My bad! That's weird, I'm using the reply button (rather that reply all) >>in Mozilla. Good thing I have nothing to hide eh? Sorry, I don't mean to >>clog up the list, but it seems that I am not alone in that today anyway. >>I guess I'll have to cut & paste the address to send a new message and >>get it to go off list . If this one goes on list, it's definitely my >>browser. If it don't, I must have hit the wrong button last time. >>ShalomOut >> Chal >> >>Elder PCUSA >>Registered Linux user #217118 >> >>Randy Kramer wrote: >> >>>Charles A. Punch wrote: >>> >>>>I'm replying off list, >>>> >>>Charles, >>> >>>Your off list replies seem to be appearing on the list. ;-) >>> >>>Randy Kramer >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >>>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com >>> >>>message.footer >>> >>>Content-Type: >>> >>>text/plain >>>Content-Encoding: >>> >>>8bit >>> > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="message.footer" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Content-Description: > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: breaking news in USA
Thanx Matt Greer wrote: >On Tuesday 11 September 2001 16:33, you wrote: > >>My bad! That's weird, I'm using the reply button (rather that reply all) >>in Mozilla. Good thing I have nothing to hide eh? >> >The mailing list has set up a "reply-to:" header so hitting reply will stick >in the ml's address. If you select to view all headers you can see it stuck >in there. > >The easiest solution, IMO, is to reply all then remove the ML's address for >private replies. > >Matt > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] A meaningfull Subject-line would help us all
Idea.listBT wrote: >Hi Charles >I couldn't resist chipping in. >You said: > >>My needs are very specific. I delete a lot of >the posts on this list >> >without even reading >them, *because I can tell from the title*, >whether or >not it is something I will need or > >>understand. >> > Good one.I don't know how you can pull my leg when my foot is in my mouth. Yeah, but >because some of them aren't (titled well), as you pointed out, I may be throwing out >some good ones in the mix. What I meant (before inserting the foot into my mouth) was >that I usually read a few lines before even looking at the title. > ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 > >So you agree that meaningfull 'titles' are helpfull then ! :-) > >Just thought that I would pull your leg. :-) > >Dave S. > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: breaking news in USA
My bad! That's weird, I'm using the reply button (rather that reply all) in Mozilla. Good thing I have nothing to hide eh? Sorry, I don't mean to clog up the list, but it seems that I am not alone in that today anyway. I guess I'll have to cut & paste the address to send a new message and get it to go off list . If this one goes on list, it's definitely my browser. If it don't, I must have hit the wrong button last time. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 Randy Kramer wrote: >Charles A. Punch wrote: > >>I'm replying off list, >> > >Charles, > >Your off list replies seem to be appearing on the list. ;-) > >Randy Kramer > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Come on!! don't blind your eyes!
jennifer wrote: >.and I break my own rule on commenting on off topic posts on this list.. > >First off..as of right now we have absolutely no FACTS that state that this >attack was caused by anybody outside the US. > We might not have *Facts*, but we have a good idea where todays attack came from. This in no way justifies attacking people who happen to be of the same nationality. That is the beginning of predjudice and we should know where that leads. >This could very well be >disgruntled americans or canadians for all we know at this time. We have no >right to assume it was another nation. > I think we have every right to make a logical progression based on the facts. If we try to obscure the truth, it may encourage people to find scapegoats and some may be in in our own multi-cultured society. However, if the people who did this are of a particular ethnic origin, it does not mean that all people from that same ethnic origin are responsible or even like what happened any more than Americans do. >And Nicolas, My post is not only directed to you but to the whole of what i >have read. And I don't think that cuss words are a grammatically correct use >of adjectives. Nor do they make your point any more emphatic. > I gotta give Jennifer an amen on that one! Name calling and cursing make me realize that someone has abandoned reason and is blasting pure emotion, straight from the hip. At that point, communiucation is impossible. >Thirdly, Come on men (and women) stop thinking and be with your families. Be >glad you have them and pray that you will have them along time. Extend your >sympathies to the all of those affected by this tradegy, no matter how far >removed from the victims. > >fourthly, forgive me for breaking going back on my word and posting this-but >if we are going to discuss something like this off topic I would hope that >everyone could keep their chin and spirits up and not sucomb to doomsaying or >hatred. > > Thanx for the positive tone of your post Jennifer. It is encouraging > to see that people on this list are concerned. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] A meaningfull Subject-line would help us all
etharp wrote: >so why don't you save Civilme's posts as html files, and post them on a free >website like geocities?. > Is this reply to me or to the previous poster? If it's to me, I would venture to say that my lack of experience would not allow me to even make any kind of an archive that anyone else could follow. I think this is something that everyone needs to do for themselves. If not you just have a bunch of info to wade through, that may or may not be relevant to you. I am technically illiterate about anything to do with networking for instance, so I would not even know what to post or even if I guessed at that, I would not know how to title them properly, so that anyone else would understand it. My needs are very specific. I delete a lot of the posts on this list without even reading them, because I can tell from the title, whether or not it is something I will need or understand. That is why I recommend making your *own* archive. That way you have more work in creating it, but less when you need it. It's not that hard to save a file and title it something that *you* will understand. It would be hard for me to title something so that someone else would understand. I usually have just about enough time to save a few of these posts that I think will help me, but I haven't had time recently to keep up a website. I used to have one, but it's been over a year since I had time to do that. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 > > >On Tuesday 11 September 2001 14:12, you had thoughts to the concept of: > >>I do something similar to what you are talking about. I roll my own help >>files, by saving those posts that I think will be of any help in the >>future. In the open source spirit, I read them or at least skim over >>them enough to get an idea of what to title them. I then save them as a >>file (with my new title and the ext _info). What you are suggesting, is >>probably not going to happen and even if it did, I would continue to >>make my own titles, so that they will have *my* idea of what they >>should be titled, rather than someone elses. After all, *I* will be the >>one that has to find it when I need it. >> >>ShalomOut >> Chal >> >>Elder PCUSA >>Registered Linux user #217118 >> >>Idea.listBT wrote: >> >>>Hi all >>> >>>As a 'taker' from this group rather than a contributer I suppose I have >>>got a cheek commenting here. I do so in the hope that one day I might >>>have learned enough to be able to contribute :-) >>> >>>I find this list very helpful in my struggle to learn Linux and even >>>though some of the topics are rather advanced for me at the moment I save >>>them all for future reference as, I am sure, many others do. >>> >>>The big problem is that, as a reference-archive, it sometimes stinks - wth >>>subject headers such as 'Lets go' and 'Nearly got it' >>> >>>Why not pay this superb list the respect it deserves by supressing the >>>comedian that lurks inside all of us and *always* use a meaningfull >>>Subject description. Then, even in years to come, we could fairly easily >>>find some obscure technical solution or whatever. All elementary really. >>> >>>If you disagree (perhaps you believe that Linux *should* be as difficult >>>as possible to learn and that even these helpfull messages should be >>>cryptic) then fair enough. I'm sorry I mentioned it. >>>If, on the other hand, you feel that we might all benefit from this >>>brilliant suggestion then why not give it a try. >>>Oh yes - and tell a friend :-) >>> >>>Incidently, it's normal to courteously ask someone not to use HTML so why >>>not ask them to use a meaningfull header line for future posts. >>> >>>Anything to make life easier. >>> >>>Dave S. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >>>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com >>> >>>message.footer >>> >>>Content-Type: >>> >>>text/plain >>>Content-Encoding: >>> >>>8bit >>> > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="message.footer" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Content-Description: > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake over windows selection
Star Office is a resource hog. I gave up on running it on my laptop which only has 80MB RAM. Why not tell him to ditch SO and try Word Perfect for word processing and maybe some GNOME stuff (Gnumeric etc. ) for the other stuff. That was my solution. The new Abi suite that comes with Ximian GNOME i pretty nice too. They have made some improvements in the last couple of releases. Nice and lean too. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 warren11 wrote: >Someone I am trying to help via email has installed Mandrake, one of the >later versions, over his windoz. >Now he has trouble cause it is evident he installed everything and he does >not have enough memory. I think he mentioned 56meg but not sure. >His big problem is StarOffice and the extreme slow bootup and action >overall. > >He did manage to send me what his df replied, The main thing I noted he >has a partition for lin4win (sp) and I wonder if that is what happens when >installing over windows option ?? > >He tried doing a rpm -e staroffice and got an error. > >Is there anyway to remove the whole install and start over ?? > >Any help appreciated as I do not use Mandrake but RedHat. > >Warren >--- > * | Warren Hrach, San Diego, CA 92107 | * > * | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux & BBBS on an AMD K5 | * > * | BBS at (619}224-4878 | * > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: breaking news in USA
> > > >I'm an athiest but this does not change the fact that my heart goes out to >those who have lost loved ones in this tragic (and cowardly!!!) attack. >My thoughts are with all those involved. People all over the world are in >total shock and disbelief. > >skinky > I'm replying off list, because I think a good thing can turn bad if overdone and my intention is not to tick anybody off.I do thank you for your concern.It is that same kind of concern that we Christians as well as, other religions address in prayer. As human beings we have more in common than our differences can overcome. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] A meaningfull Subject-line would help us all
I do something similar to what you are talking about. I roll my own help files, by saving those posts that I think will be of any help in the future. In the open source spirit, I read them or at least skim over them enough to get an idea of what to title them. I then save them as a file (with my new title and the ext _info). What you are suggesting, is probably not going to happen and even if it did, I would continue to make my own titles, so that they will have *my* idea of what they should be titled, rather than someone elses. After all, *I* will be the one that has to find it when I need it. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 Idea.listBT wrote: >Hi all > >As a 'taker' from this group rather than a contributer I suppose I have got >a cheek commenting here. I do so in the hope that one day I might have >learned enough to be able to contribute :-) > >I find this list very helpful in my struggle to learn Linux and even though >some of the topics are rather advanced for me at the moment I save them all >for future reference as, I am sure, many others do. > >The big problem is that, as a reference-archive, it sometimes stinks - wth >subject headers such as 'Lets go' and 'Nearly got it' > >Why not pay this superb list the respect it deserves by supressing the >comedian that lurks inside all of us and *always* use a meaningfull Subject >description. Then, even in years to come, we could fairly easily find some >obscure technical solution or whatever. All elementary really. > >If you disagree (perhaps you believe that Linux *should* be as difficult as >possible to learn and that even these helpfull messages should be cryptic) >then fair enough. I'm sorry I mentioned it. >If, on the other hand, you feel that we might all benefit from this >brilliant suggestion then why not give it a try. >Oh yes - and tell a friend :-) > >Incidently, it's normal to courteously ask someone not to use HTML so why >not ask them to use a meaningfull header line for future posts. > >Anything to make life easier. > >Dave S. > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: breaking news in USA
FLYNN, Steve wrote: >Whilst this is all very touching (and no, I'm not being cynical), can please >we *not* discuss it on the list. > >People agreeing with others that it's a terrible thing and their prayers are >going out to the victims it all well and good, but irrelevant. > >Yes, I know it sounds cold, callous, etc. but I'm this will get done all >over Usenet, the news, the papers and so on - the world is depressing enough >without bringing the whole sad, sorry mess into here... > The sad part has already happened and simply ignoring it will not make it go away. The prayers offered are not sad, they are a positive response to a serious situation. I don't know if you believe that prayer actually accomplishes anything, but if you do, would you really want someone who benefitted from these OT prayers to be deprived of the positive results, just because they were off topic? If you don't believe in prayer, I can understand what you are asking, but I can't agree with it. As for your aksing to please not discuss it on this list, I would ask; Could you please learn how to use your delete key. It takes less effort to delete than to respond. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 > > >F15's at dawn over Palestine then... :-( > >Steve Flynn >NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst >* 01603 687386 > > > >** >This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named >recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email >the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or >take/retain/distribute any copies. >** > > >Norwich Union Life & Pensions Limited >Registered Office 2 Rougier Street >York YO90 1UU >Registered in England Number 3253947 >A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group >which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. >Member of the Association of British Insurers. > >For further Enquires 01603 622200 > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: breaking news in USA
Dave Sherman wrote: >On Tue, 2001-09-11 at 10:56, David E. Fox wrote: > >>US needs to do something about this though - nuke Mecca >> > >Careful, David. We may have peaceful Muslims on this list, who would >deplore today's events as much as anyone else. > >Dave > Not to mention that negativity breeds negativity. We should be careful when fighting monsters, not to become one in the process, Simply nuking someone will not solve the entire problem, even if that is a reasonable part of the solution. Even then, it should not be taken lightly. There is more than one base of evil in the world and some of them are very well disquised. I think the people who are offering prayers are in the proper attitude to receive the wisdom to deal with this situastion. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE/Gnome -- Thanks,
Peter Rymshaw wrote: >Thanks for the info. Since I come from Win, I guess >I'll keep things simple with KDE...for now. > I just downloaded Ximian GNOME and it seems to be pretty easy to use. I don't like the term "user friendly," because that usually means limited configuration. Ximian seems to be as simple or as complicated as you want it to be. I took the option to download and install from the internet and it took 9 hours, but the installer did everything, with only a few questions. You can't beat that for making it easy for newbies. Thanx once more to Sridhar for posting the info about Ximian. > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian Gnome
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > > Mandrake has taken a few elements from Ximian GNOME for Mandrake 8.0. > However, Ximian's official Mandrake 8.0 packages are even better. Things are > smoother and faster than in 8.0 (especially Nautilus), and there are a few > extra little niceties like Doorman and Red Carpet. Do you think that MDK 8.1 will have the full version of Ximian GNOME? I don't have a cd burner and out here in the sticks, it's impossible to get broadband that supports Linux. If 8.1 will not include it, is there perhaps a RPM or something that would reasonably download over 56k? ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 We the Users, in order to form a more perfect system, establish priorities, ensure connective tranquility, provide for common repairs, promote preventive maintenance, and secure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our processes, do ordain and establish this Software of The Unixed States of America. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: Subject changed by request of previous poster
> >LURKER here, > > > >These two subjects are NOT what I would call appropoe for this Mail > >List. ONE, slamming others is NOT very NICE even though you may have > >thingys correct or NOT. TWO, the subject is NOT correct for what is placed > >in each message. I do thank you for responding but if the subject is > >changed then change what is in that field, SUBJECT:. I have a few questions. First of all, let me say that I do not mean to *slam* anyone. I am only trying to figure out the standard procedure for this list. There is much diversity in place of a standard going around, not only on this list, but in the world in general. This is one of the factors that led me to use Linux. Although it is far from standardized, it seems that the Linux community is at least making an honest effort to define and set some standards. Sometimes this means hearing the groans of growing pains. I think that is what is happening on this list. I have heard a few people *demand that everyone follow their standard, but I have yet to hear very much in the way of credentials, or an explanation why. Several times I have asked *why* and gotten cursed out. A few people have *tried* to ridicule me, but were not successful (in my understanding), because they quite simply, didn't make any sense to me. Perhaps their insult was over my head, but they should have taken into consideration that this is a *newbie* list. I have also gotten replies insinuating that I had been insulting. I usually post in the same tone that the previous post was in. However, I will not resort to calling names, posting with lots of CAPS or ad hominem, no matter what. I am now verbally walking on eggshells, so as not to offend anyone. My questions are just questions. If I ask a question it means that I want to know something. There is no hidden agenda. These are just some things I thought were worth considering, in the interest of communicating more effectively. Maybe I've got it all wrong. If so, it would be nice to hear someone explain it to me in rational terms. --- These types of > >messages should be addressed directly to the individuals you are wanting to > >communicate this information NOT to the LIST. > > > >This is what gives this LIST a BLACK EYE in PROFESSIONALISM. - I have asked this before, but gotten no reasonable explanation. What has this list got to do with professionalism? This is not a rhetorical question! I really want to know. --- Most of the > >info asked for is received with the intent of assisting. -- Assisting what? Is it strictly for addressing technical issues? I have heard many contradictory opinions on that one lately. If so what constitutes a technical issue? -- If you want to > >have this type of discussion then create your own Mail List for that and > >let those of us that want to learn our systems to the best of our abilities > >to this List. - By what authority do you declare this? again I am not trying to be coy, but seriously, why should I listen to your denmands as opposed to all the others who say just the opposite? I can't follow two directly opposite paths. The best I can do is listen to all sides and choose the most logical one. If anyone wants people to follow their instructions, perhaps it would be in their interest to present their case more clearly. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kde2.2 broke Konqueror Flash plugin
Isaac Curtis wrote: > > Wow, this seems to be the only thing in Linux I actually know anything > about. So far I've posted this same thing twice and gotten rave reviews > both times, so I'll modify it to refer to flash instead of java (the > original topic, same procedure) and just copy-paste... > > The command line solution can be found on page 98 of Running Linux > (Welsh,Dalheimer and Kaufman - O'Reilly & Associates) and on page 219 of > Linux in a Nutshell (Siever, Spainhour, Figgins and Hekman - O'Reilly). I've got "Running Linux" (well woth the money) and heave heard so much lately about "Linux in a Nutshell" I guess it's time to dig into my pockets again. Sometimes the answer is right under my nose, but it's hard to know where to find the answer, if you don't know where to start. That's usually my problem. There is plenty of documentation out there, but reccomendations about where to find info on a specific topic like in your post help me a lot. >(dude, get mozilla...) I was using Mozilla, it worked real good for a couple of months, but suddenly I had some trouble with my mail sending blanks where the body of the text should have been. Strange, but I quit using it for a while and when I went to try it again, it was completely crashed. I don't think it was the latest release though. I really miss it, so I *will* get the new one when I have time. Thanx for the info. Now I have a direction to start out in. Onward through the fog! ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Patience is a minor form of despair, disguised as virtue. -- Ambrose Bierce, on qualifiers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE and Gnome when I log in?
Mohammed Arafa wrote: > > u guys probably got gmc on autostart (find and erase) OR most likely, u once > ran gmc then quit kde with the option to save ur session as is so as to > resume it next boot. > > u can > 1. kill the gmc process (that should also kill the gnome icons) then save ur > sessions > 2. somewhere in the kde control panel is the same save sessions options but > i cant for the life of me remember where > I have already turned off the "save session" option. I have also already killed the GMC process(if you mean using Xkill). The autostart is something to check out though. I'm not sure where it is, but I'm sure it can't be too hard to find. Thanx for sharing the info. Thanx also for being clear, to the point and not assuming that I have any previous knowledge in this area. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE and Gnome when I log in?
I know that there is probably a better way to do this, but I, (in desperation) got rid of those bad boys, by slapping them with Xkill everytime they showed up. It took five or six times, but eventually they stopped coming up, so far. If there is a better way to do this that will not leave a lot of unfinished cleanup (as this probably did) I would like to know also. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Patience is a minor form of despair, disguised as virtue. -- Ambrose Bierce, on qualifiers Jon Doe wrote: > > I have a strange problem. I am running Mandrake 8.0 and I have upgraded to > the 2.2 KDE. Things work great, except everytime I login now, KDE comes up, > then all the Gnome icons come up, over top of the KDE icons and then gmc > comes up. I am not sure which file to edit to fix this. > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Canon BJC-5100
had one, but couldn't get it to work either. Had a Canon BJC 2110 that worked. Had to use a 610 and up setting on that one. Gave the 5000 away and got a HP Deskjet 632C for about 60 bucks and it prints better (as far as print quality) than either one of the others. Its a little particular about settings though. I've had a few problems getting it to print on the right position on the page and it sometinmes chews up my envelopes. Now that I've gotten used to it's idiosycracies, I like it better, because of the print quality. It seems you have gotten futher than I did with the settings on the BJC 5000. I couldn't even get it to intialize. Good luck. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Patience is a minor form of despair, disguised as virtue. -- Ambrose Bierce, on qualifiers Ton Strijbosch wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a Canon BJC-5100, but I can't get it to work. I installed CUPS and > selected the proper driver Canon BJC-5000 according to Canon. When I start > printing the print just initialises and then stops. Nothing get's printed. Is > anyone out there who has also a Canon BJC-5100 and got it to work? > > Thanks for any help. > > Greetings, > Ton > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Lunacy....
brown1302 wrote: > > WHAT HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH LINUX NEWBIE PROBLEMS!! THERE ARE OTHER > VENUES FOR THIS CRAP> ___ I'm sure there are other venues for *this* kind of crap that you have posted as well. oh, by the way, your headlights are on. maybe your batteries are running down and your congratulatory modules require more power. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 > - Original Message - > From: "d" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 7:02 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Lunacy > > > LURKER here, Congrats. A little word of advice, I am sure you never have > > had any nor will you from any others. When my wife and I married 38 years > > ago we made an agreement that this was more than a marrage, it is a > > partnership and any decisions made that effected both would be agreed upon > > by both. We have always discussed thingys first then made our decision > and > > went forward with that. Worked for us. Hope you have as GREAT a luck as > > we have. Never go to sleep without the "I Love You" closing. > > > > > > At 02:57 PM 8/26/01, you wrote: > > >Just curious - anyone going on the Linux Lunacy 7 day cruise in the > Caribeaan? > > >(sp?). > > > > > >Its in October, and my fiance' and I are going to use it for a honeymoon, > > >-'Nix- style! > > > > > >Somebody congratulate me, the date is October 19th! ;- > > > > > >-- > > > > > > /\ > > > Dark> > > \/ > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > >Go to http://.mandrakestore.com > > > > TIA, > > 'd' > > Don Hodges > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > San Antonio, Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://.mandrakestore.com > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] download manager
d wrote: > > LURKER here, > > Excuse me for jumping in here but when I clicked on this link a window > popped up saying "RealPlayer could not be found would I like to download?" > and I clicked NO then everythingy STOPPED. No download for that RPM, I am > still using WindBlows, EudoraLitev5.1, and NetScape v4.77 for these > messages. Am working with Linux/ Mandrake v7.0 because I have it installed > and working for learning. AMD-K6 II 400meg/w 163m RAM. > > Any assistance would be great, I also would like a DldMgr for LM, will this > one work with v7.0? Maybe a different one? > > At 08:07 PM 8/23/01, you wrote: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Try holding the shift key down while clicking on the link. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Patience is a minor form of despair, disguised as virtue. -- Ambrose Bierce, on qualifiers > >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by > >mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com id OAA24275 > > > >Jeferson Lopes Zacco escribió: > > > > > I wonder if there is a good download manager for Linux - like GetRight, > > > GO!zilla or DownloadAccelerator for window$ - I haven been able to find > > > anything but beta projects. And I just don't want to go downloading 24MB > > > kernels in my lovely ISP without one... > > > >Try: > > > >ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/contrib/RPMS/nt-1.28.1-1mdk.i586.rpm > > > >-- > > Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 > > Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org > > Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 > > > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://.mandrakestore.com > > TIA, > 'd' > Don Hodges > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > San Antonio, Texas > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: hoping to use CD-only install of Mandrake 8.0 on a Libretto palmtop. . . possible??
set your BIOS to boot from CD. That workerd for me. Floppy drives seem to hate me and are always breaking. I think that there are two things we need to get rid of (in the USA); floppy drives and pennies. Both are worthless. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Patience is a minor form of despair, disguised as virtue. -- Ambrose Bierce, on qualifiers WCBaker wrote: > > Here's a good question for you! I've put Mandrake 8.0 on a desktop and > it's great (I'm new to Linux, by the way). Now I need to get Mandrake 8.0 > on my tiny Libretto palmtop. The palmtop currently has a Japanese version > of Windoze 95 on it and I'd like to keep a very tiny bit of the disk for > Windoze but have Linux eat up most of it. Problem is that my PCMCIA > fax/modem card and the floppy drive are no longer functional (long story > involving a lot of travelling). > > Is it possible to NOT use a floppy disk to boot when installing? I want to > just use my CD (I do have access to a PCMCIA CD machine that connects quite > nicely) and install Mandrake 8.0. > > Can I do this? I've seen other methods on the Net, but I need to use CD > only. . . > > Hopefully, > > -warren > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to surf...
How are you "Killing the process?" Did you try deleting this file? /home/chal/.kde/share/apps/kppp/kppp.pid the "chal" is my user name, so apply whatever yours is there. I had a similar problem and this solved it. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Patience is a minor form of despair, disguised as virtue. -- Ambrose Bierce, on qualifiers Jason Guidry wrote: > > OK, Kppp (LM8) sees my Modem Blaster External, dials out to my ISP. most of > the time Kpppd crashes somehow (no connection timer) but is still "running" > when I look for it with $ top. > > I try killing the processes, but they won't die. > > when Kpppd doesn't crash and I get the timer, etc, I'm unable to resolve web > pages. > > so, If Kppp is broken, what will fix it, and if this is a generic linux > problem and not an ISP issue, how do I fix it? > > much thanks > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Mandrake 8.0 "internet" desktop icon does not give me a button to connect & disconnect to Internet. . .
In KDE, click on the K then go to -Networking Remote Access -Internet Dialer. In GNOME, it's called Gnome ppp. If you want to put it on the desktop, you just drag & drop it from the menu. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Patience is a minor form of despair, disguised as virtue. -- Ambrose Bierce, on qualifiers WCBaker wrote: > > Hi! I very recently installed Mandrake 8.0. The "internet" desktop icon > in KDE (and I think, in Gnome, too) does not give me a button to connect & > disconnect to Internet. . . I'm wondering how I can go about > troubleshooting this problem. > > Thanks! > > -warren > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dual boot
you just need to set the timeout. Go to -Mandrake Control Center -Boot - Boot Config then press the "Configure" button and set the "delay before booting default image" ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Patience is a minor form of despair, disguised as virtue. -- Ambrose Bierce, on qualifiers matt conran wrote: > > Hi > I'm having problems dual booting mandrake with win2000. It can boot in > linu or 2000, but it defaults in to linux if you don't scroll down and > select windows2000. Do you know of a way where the boot screen can > default to windows2000. It boots into a linux gui first and then it > lists the O/S I can go into. If it booted into 2000 by default I could > just edit the boot.ini. I have tried to edit the lilo conf and I have > switched the default to 2000 etc.. but when I restart the linux screen > pops up and it still defaults to linux. > > Any suggestions? > > Matt Conran > Network Administrator > Servecast > 3a Prince street > Dublin 2 > > Mobile - 086 2745227 > Direct - 01 4748076 > Reception - 01 4748002 > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X woes (Toshiba laptop)
Are you sure you have the right Graphic Card selected. On my Toshiba Satrellite Pro 465 CDX, I had the same problem in installing MDK 7.1. After much fiddling around with the resolution, I finally resolved it by changing the Graphic card to the first entry on Tatung. All of the Generic settings worked fine during install, but then after booting would flicker unless I changed the resolution to 256 colors. I was not happy with 256 Colors, so I kept experimenting until I stumbled on the right setting. Now it does not even flicker on 65 thousand colors. In 7.1 I changed it in Harddrake, but in 8.0 it's easier to use -Configuration -Other -Mandrake Control Center ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Patience is a minor form of despair, disguised as virtue. -- Ambrose Bierce, on qualifiers Chuck Messenger wrote: > > I'm unable to figure out the right display mode for my laptop. During > the install process, the graphics mode is correct (i.e. the screen looks > great -- no problems). However, after it starts X, the display goes > haywire. I tried another mode -- this time, the LCD display mode. > Still no luck. > > How do I figure out what mode to use? For example, how do I figure out > what mode Mandrake is using during the boot-up and boot-down process > (during which time the graphics looks fine). How do I set the mode? Is > there a way to test the mode, without committing to it? > > Can anyone point me to a troubleshooting page for xfree86? > > Thanks. > > - Chuck > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: No Taskbar, minimized programs gone
Peter Rymshaw wrote: > > Got mine back. Don't know if this is the only or best > solution, but apparently what I had before and what > disappeared was an "external" taskbar, which is > another bar sitting above the panel. I right clicked > on the panel / add / external taskbar and it's back. > My open programs show there. > Thanx, that did it. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*".' (By Linus Torvalds) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] religion in Linux?!
As long as were digging deep into the spiritual side, BASH stands for "born again shell." It seems to me that these kind of things are just a result of people naming things from the vernacular. If you want to seriously look into the spiritual side of Open Source, check out "The Hacker Ethic and the Spirit of the Information Age" by Pekka Himanen. I'm not sure where to find it. I picked it up on a trip to Baltimore recently and it was the only copy in the bookstore. I'm sure a search engine would find it for you though. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Andrei Raevsky wrote: > > Call me curious, or call my plain stupid. But I cannot but help notice > stuff such as the names "daemons" or "ncurses" or the FreeBSD logo with a > little devil on it. Could anyone explain why this is so? Is there some > historical reason for this, or is this just a coencidence, or just as in > rock bands - a way of looking more interesting? > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] nautilus as desktop manager
I had a little problem understanding the instructions posted to the list, until I realized that you must change the preferences to "advanced" and then click preferances. The advanced option is the "triangle" that one post spoke of. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 paul rodríguez wrote: > Please forgive me if you recieved multiple copies of this email > accidentally. > > I have been looking for a way to disable Nautilus as my desktop manager. > Everyone has been telling me that it is in the Nautilus preferences > (which I thought as well), but it doesn't seem to be in the preferences > in my version (1.0.3-3mdk) from Mandrake Freq2. I am currently using > gnome with sawfish and would like more control of my desktop environment > through these applications. > > -Paul Rodríguez > > > On 07 Aug 2001 11:02:48 -0300, Nicolás Gómez wrote: > >> open the nautilus browser in the last menu from left to right (is a >> drawing like a diamond) then... go to preferences and disable the option >> "Choose Nautilus to draw my desktop"... or something like that >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Sridhar Dhanapalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:53 AM >> Subject: Re: [newbie] nautilus as desktop manager >> >> >>> On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 03:23, Paul wrote: >>> It was Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:40:40 +1000 when Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > I haven't used Nautilus in a while, but I vaguely recall an option for > this existing in Nautilus' preferences. I recall it is nautilus --nodesktop. Just tried it: that's it. Paul >>> >>> The problem here is that when you start GNOME, Nautilus will load >>> automatically to manage the desktop. There is no opportunity to enter the >>> --nodesktop flag. The flag will only work if Nautilus is not already >> >> loaded >> >>> (and hence not managing the desktop). To control how Nautilus behaves at >>> GNOME startup, you need to change the preferences setting. >>> > On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:50, paul rodrguez wrote: > >> I chose to have nautilus run as my desktop manager during the initial >> setup of my LM 8 freq2 gnome system. Now it seems neither gnome nor >> nautilus are fully in control of my desktop, the icons appear as > >> blank >> >> files and i can't change the background image. I would like to take > >> off >> >> nautilus' control of the desktop, how can I set this? > > -- > Sridhar Dhanapalan. > "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: > LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." > -- Jeremy S. Anderson -- Ideally, couples need three lives; one for him, one for her, and one for them together. Jacqueline Bisset http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.5.2 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care ** >>> >>> -- >>> Sridhar Dhanapalan. >>> "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: >>> LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." >>> -- Jeremy S. Anderson >>> > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >
Re: [newbie] Disabling Mandrake 8.0 automatic login?
Mandrake Control Center - Boot Config - System Mode - No I don't want auto login ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Keith Christian wrote: > > How do I disable the automatic login when my Mandrake 8.0 machine is > booted up? Instead of waiting for me to login, it automatically logs in > as the regular user and goes straight to the desktop. Convenient, but > not really secure. > > Thanks, > > =Keith > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] text file viewer/previewer
Konqueror works for me. You can view directories, click on a file and view it, with the option to edit it with either K Word, Text Editor, or Advanced Editor. You can also right click and use "open with" if those won't do the trick. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 paul rodríguez wrote: > > Does anybody know of a good text file browser? One that I can use to > quickly look through my files and read the textfiles as I browse through > them. > > -Paul R > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] windows documents
Is it feasable to go into windows and save them as a plain text or ASCII text file? If that's not a problem almopt any Linux prog wil read it. If not Star office and Word Perfect read most word files. I'm not sure about Wordpad though. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 chris wrote: > > I have a problem in taking windows documents (mostly wordpad created) > from my mount/windows directory into my linux drive. Both kword and konqeror > give me about half of the first page and no more. Both usually hang > afterwards. Anyone know which program would read these documents properly?
Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
What ever happened to free speech? If you don't agree with someone, why not express your opinion, instead of whining? If it really is too much trouble to simply delete what you don't want to read, why not get another account for the list? ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 Jeanette Russo wrote: > How many people would like to see this thread taken off list it is OT. > - Original Message - > From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 4:28 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft > > >> I hate threads like this. Makes you stop and think about why you use these >> mailing lists!!! >> >> John W >>
Re: [newbie]
Just a shot in the dark, and not very specific to your problem, but do you have enough free disk space? I have a Satellite Pro 465CDX with 2GB hard drive and I solved a lot of problems by trimming down all the unneccesary stuff during installation. I got a lot of weird conflicts and errors trying to install packages, before I realized that it was a space problem. I re-installed and everything is smooth now. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user # 217118 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have installed mandrake 7.1 on my laptop toshiba satellite pro 780.. > Now i`d like to install > koffice..this > requires kde2..and so I should install it...I downloaded kdebase, kdelibs > > and kdesupport but if I try to install then using the kpackager it gives > me > an error (conflict something).Is there anyone who has any idea on how I > > could solve this problemthanks a lot > Bye > Maurizio > > > > > __ > Abbonati a Tiscali! > Con VoceViva puoi anche ascoltare ed inviare email al telefono. > Chiama VoceViva allo 0143 434343 > http://voceviva.tiscali.it > > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] a big duh
I think it is Nautilus that causes the problem, not GNOME, or at least not running GNOME progs in KDE. I have been using gnome cal and gnumeric with no problems (from KDE). I still haven't resolved the problems in GNOME itself, but I don't think it is running GNOME progs in KDE that causes the problems. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 skinky wrote: > Hi all > > I had the same problem. I was also using Gnome apps in KDE and vice versa, but >after a few days Gnome did the big crash thing which completely locked up my system >(had to use the dreaded reset button). Because I'm a sucker for punishment, I went >back into Gnome a few more times with the same result each time. I'm not sure what >caused it because I had also tried out Enlightenment and a few others. So I've just >uninstalled and reintalled LM8 and haven't been brave enough to try Gnome again or >run the Gnome apps in KDE. > > Can someone please advise whether or not its OK to use Gnome apps in KDE. > > Cheers > skinky > > PS. Sorry if the font is italicised - having just got my new external serial modem >(YAY!! No more booting back into Windows every 10 mins :-)) I'm trying out KMail >and can't seem to get the font thing sorted for replying/composing. > > > > On Wednesday 01 August 2001 22:05, you wrote: > >> On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:19, Charles A. Punch wrote: >> >>> nkey wrote: >>> >>>> im just now beginning to run GNOME (was using KDE) and id like to >>>> change the color of my fonts on my desktop but cannot find an >>>> option anywhere to let me change this! >>>> >>>> GACK! >>>> >>>> is it possible to do so? >>>> thanks! >>>> >>>> im using Sawfish and also letting Nautilus draw my desktop. so im >>>> not sure whats up. if i turn off that nautilus feature, my text >>>> goes from white ot black, but i cant seem to get any other text >>>> colors on my desktop. >>>> >>>> luke >>> >>> I have been using mainly KDE, but every once in a while I try >>> GNOME. It seems that I always get a kind of bleed through effect. >>> Sometimes when I am in KDE the desktop icons from GNOME will bleed >>> through and vice versa. I do use GNOME programs in KDE and vice >>> versa. I am wondering if this has anything to do with it. It >>> doesn't seem to crash anything but is mostly annoying. The really >>> strange thing is that I don't use any desktop icons except "Trash." >>> The first thing I do after an install is get rid of them. I have >>> had these kind of problems in several versions of Mandrake and I >>> always wind up going back to KDE, because the problems seem to go >>> away after awhile,. if I just use KDE. If I continue to use GNOME, >>> it seems that it gets worse . I can't seem to get the settings in >>> GNOME to stay where I set them. They keep changing back to the >>> defaults. Last week I ran Netscape in GNOME and it changed (spell >>> checked perhaps?) my address in my mail settings and changed the >>> number (0) to the letter (o). as a result anyone who replied to my >>> mail would get a return. It also sent some of my mail with blank >>> body text. (the subject line was all that was readable). I think >>> GNOME has possibilities and it seems to be less and less buggy with >>> each new release, but I have to go with KDE for now. Sorry I don't >>> have any answers, but sometimes listing the problems helps in >>> running down the solution. >> >> That's really odd. I've been using GNOME as my primary desktop for >> almost two years, and I've never had any problems like these. For >> your desktop icon problems, what apps cause this? I know that if you >> run Nautilus without the --no-desktop tag, or GMC without the >> --nodesktop tag, they will try to manage your desktop. >
Re: [newbie] a big duh
nkey wrote: > im just now beginning to run GNOME (was using KDE) and id like to change the > color of my fonts on my desktop but cannot find an option anywhere to let me > change this! > > GACK! > > is it possible to do so? > thanks! > > im using Sawfish and also letting Nautilus draw my desktop. so im not sure > whats up. if i turn off that nautilus feature, my text goes from white ot > black, but i cant seem to get any other text colors on my desktop. > > luke I have been using mainly KDE, but every once in a while I try GNOME. It seems that I always get a kind of bleed through effect. Sometimes when I am in KDE the desktop icons from GNOME will bleed through and vice versa. I do use GNOME programs in KDE and vice versa. I am wondering if this has anything to do with it. It doesn't seem to crash anything but is mostly annoying. The really strange thing is that I don't use any desktop icons except "Trash." The first thing I do after an install is get rid of them. I have had these kind of problems in several versions of Mandrake and I always wind up going back to KDE, because the problems seem to go away after awhile,. if I just use KDE. If I continue to use GNOME, it seems that it gets worse . I can't seem to get the settings in GNOME to stay where I set them. They keep changing back to the defaults. Last week I ran Netscape in GNOME and it changed (spell checked perhaps?) my address in my mail settings and changed the number (0) to the letter (o). as a result anyone who replied to my mail would get a return. It also sent some of my mail with blank body text. (the subject line was all that was readable). I think GNOME has possibilities and it seems to be less and less buggy with each new release, but I have to go with KDE for now. Sorry I don't have any answers, but sometimes listing the problems helps in running down the solution. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 > > >
Re: [newbie] win95 gone
Do you mean that you installed Linux on a dual boot, and now you want to get rid of the Windows partition and use it for Linux. If so, what distro are you using? If you want a clear detailed answer, you need to ask a clear and detailed question. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I re-installed my computer and decided that I didn't want win95 any more. I was >wondering how can I make sure windows is totally gone? > Any idea's would be helpful. > > Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com > Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!
Re: [newbie] Geforce 2 mx
I have a GeForce II Ultra 64 MB. Is that the same? I'm not sure exactly what configuration you need, but if I can help, let me know. The four letter word makes you sound less intelligent than you probably are and the context you use it in makes you sound tense and anxious. Try to chill, enjoy life and express yourself in a more creative manner. It's all good, in da *nix neighboorhood. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 arro wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:57:56 -0600 > "Miark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Dude, watch your language on Newbie. >> >> Miark >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: arro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: mandrake list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:21 AM >> Subject: [newbie] Geforce 2 mx >> >> >>> if some one has the exact configuration and got it to work >> >> , plz let me now ! >> >>> >>> Creative Geforce 2 MX (PCI) >>> mdk8, XFree86 4.0.3 (but also could install 4.1 if >> >> needed..while i might do that anyway) >> >>> plz only sent a reply if you have the same configuration , >> >> as i cannot risk to fuck up my box in any way...not for a >> day , and not for an hour. >> >>> Thx in advance for any replies ! >>> > > is it offensive in any way to say "i cannot risk to fuck up my box in any way" ? > i don't think so. > > >
Re: [newbie] Kernel Panic:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on 03:05
joel lopez wrote: > I have two operating systems Linux Mandrake 8.0 and Windows ME and i have read the >how-tos and i have not found this error message anywhere and it isnt the first time >it has happened. The first time it happened i ended up reformatting my hard drive >ended up getting a new computer. If anybody has had this happen to them could i get a >shout out on how to get LM running again. I tried a ME/Mdk7.2 dual boot. It gave me so much trouble, to install and to run after installation. I gave up and went back to Win 98. I didn't get that particular message, but I got a bunch of unexplained crashes. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user #217118 > >
Re: [newbie] Kmail Question
I never could get Konqueror or Kmail to work right. Netscape works fine for me , but I use Mozilla, which works just as well and has some nice skins . I think it's probably a question of whatever works for you. Different systems seem to work better with different things. I think that with Linux, experimentation is crucial. Find what works for your system and keep checking the ones that didn't work as they become upgraded. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user #217118 bc wrote: > i've used Kmail for 2 days, it has "not responed" twice, or, i cick around > very fast and it does not like it, does anyone have an opinion for me, that > is, should i use Kmail and Konkerer or Netscape's browser w/ email program??? > > thanks... > bc > > >
Re: Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i can't resist this one. to add further to John's response, why are you > having to su so much? the only time i have to su is to install programs. i > just tried this, i can su & type in a password in 4 seconds. you do this so > often that it results in a "fair amount of lost time"? i'm sure i'm not the > only one who would be curious to know what you are doing to that computer... Yeah what he said! PS Maybe you should use a shorter psswd. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user #217118 >
Re: [newbie]
bc wrote: > how can i open a Microsoft Word Document, a doc file in KDE/Mandrake? what > program? > > "Kword" can not open it? > > > Star Office or Word Perfect, if you have either one. If not SO is free and I believe there is a free version of WP. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user 217118
Re: [newbie] WP and Mandrake8
mrc wrote: > It seems that WP8 will not run on Mandrake8. Has anyone else had this problem? I'm not sure where you are having the problem, but I have wp8 running on L8.0 succcesfully on my desktop as well as my laptop. In LM7.2, I could click on the install icon and it would start up the installation, but for some reason in LM8.0 I had to install from a terminal with; "./install.wp " after mounting the cdrom. You can also just open your cdrom directory and open the terminal from there. That way you don't have to cd to your /mnt/cd/andapartridgeinaperartree/etcetc/andallthatjazz/ because you're already there. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user #217118 Never teach a pig to sing. It doesn't sound very good and it annoys the pig. > >
Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
> Roman wrote; > Is it just me or is every one receiving double or quadruple copies of > the identical email? > > Roman I get double and sometimes triple, but never quadruple. What is confusing to me is that it doesn't seem to be consistent, but is just with some posts, once in a while in a random way. I am using Mozilla Messenger, but it also happened in Netscape and Kmail. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user #217118 > > >
Re: [newbie] Please no more "No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft" posts!
Don WILSON wrote: > I signed up after installing Mandrake to help me learn how to use Linux > after years of Windows. I have already found answers and I appreciate you > folks who have been where I am by taking the time to help. > > I don't want (and I sure most of you don't either) mailboxes filled with all > these inane replies. Please limit you posts to Q & A related to Linux probs > and fixes. Are there any moderators in this list. Can we stop this! > > Thanks for my rant and keep up the good work! > > Newbie, But not for long. > > Your request falls under it's own weight. Your own reply was not limited to >technical Q & A, but was just another "inane reply." You are practicing the very >thing you are complaining about. The social acceptance of Open Source is connected in >many ways to the technical problems. I would like to see problems prevented, rather >than letting them keep springing up and then fixing them with technology. That is >what Microsoft has been selling us for years and it is time for a change. If this >list is specifically for technical solutions, Is there any rule that specifies this, >or is it just your own "inane" opinion. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user #217118 You better start swimming, or you'll sink like a stone for the times they are a changin' Bob Dylan > > >
Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
Solver wrote: > > An average, or lower, user, assuming he has got kowledge of English, can > install Windows without trouble, easily install apps under it, click start, > point to programs and Microsoft Word. > This kind of statement is one of the things that scares off potential Linux users. I >switched over to Linux, because Windows crashed on me and would not re-install >correctly on my laptop. In desperation I installed LM 71, which I had played around >with, but was afraid of, because of statements like the one above or, "Linux is not >user friendly" It installed without a hitch and I managed to get my mailing list done >on time. It was easier to install than Windows, contrary to popular belief. I have >not looked back since. I use Win98 now only because I have not figured out how to >install my scanner correctly, but I have had trouble with peripherals in windows as >well. My zip drive gave me a real hard time to install in Windows, but LM recognized >it with no problem. I didn't have to do anything. I didn't install a driver or >anything, it just worked after install. Solver also wrote; > Once, when I was instructing a user to type DOS commands, I didn't say open > the MS-DOS prompt. I just said: > Type the following commands: > cd \windows > copy user.dat \backup > copy user.da0 \backup > defrag > > And, when nothing worked I was suprised. Turned out that user typed it all > in Word... And I can never imagine users like this installing Linux apps and > compiling sources. > Solver... > It sounds like the above "user" would have trouble with any operating system, but it >would fall under the category of a non sequitor to assume that he would have any more >trouble with Linux than with Windows or for that matter, any other OS. I use Linux >because it is easier to install and use than Windows. No defragmenting or cleaning up >the registry every five minutes like in Windows, less crashes from opening too many >programs at once and finally less chance of getting a virus. Okay, so some software >is a little harder to install, but it seems that I see more and more RPMs instead of >or in addition to than in the past and that is a small concession to make for all the >other advantages. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user #217118 > >
Re: [newbie] DVD Question
h3rb wrote: >> What is a CSS-encrypted DVD? > > > Cryptanalysis of Contents Scrambling System > CSS is a scrambling system used in the distribution for movies on > DVD ( Digital Versatile Disc ) a high capacity CD like storage system. Its > main purpose is to prevent the unauthorized duplication of disc contents. > This is achieved through encrypting the files, and storing keys in hardware. > > Thanks h3rb, I guess my next question is; Can I (legally) play comercial or rented DVD Movies on my computer, using something like xine? Or, are they encrypted? I know this is probably a big question and a can of worms, but if anyone can instruct or point me to documentation, I would appreciate it. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user #217118
[newbie] DVD Question
What is a CSS-encrypted DVD?
Re: [newbie] x won't start
Stephen Hansen-Sturm wrote: > I cannot start x. I am using Mandrake > > 7.2, and I have XFree86 3.36 and 4.01 > > both installed. > > The computer is an IBM ThinkPad 770z, This may be a long shot, but I have had similar problems starting X, as well as other screen resolution problems, stemming from incomplete installations. It took me a while to figure it out, but in desperation, I would re-install and notice that the installation took a lot longer the second or third time and offered several options that didn't present themselves initially.I don't know why this happens, but I know that it has happened several times to me, never on my desktop, but only on my Toshiba Satellite Pro notebook. It may be some kind of notebook specific quirk. I'm not sure if this will help you, but I just thought I would mention it for consideration.Maybe re-installing will be one more alternative to consider before giving up, if nothing else works. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user #217118 Nothing is impossible, to the man who will not listen to reason. >
Re: [newbie] where to get themes?
Jose wrote: Glad to help and thanks for letting me know that it did. It always helps to let people know when their suggestion helped you. It keeps the spirit of sharing information alive. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user #217118 a seasoned newbie > I want to thank you for the link as well. I have been looking for KDE > themes for awhile. > > > On Monday 11 June 2001 06:36, Charles A. Punch wrote: > >> Thanks for the link! The message wasn't on the page when I'd checked it >> (I think!) >> >> On Monday 11 June 2001 00:46, Charles A. Punch wrote: >> >>> Sam wrote: >>> >>>> I went to http://kde.themes.org/ to download a couple of themes for >>>> KDE. But I get a page saying "404 Not Found". In fact, it appears >>>> to be the same with www.themes.org Does anybody know what's >>>> happened to the site, and any other good sources of themes? Thanks >>> >>> There is a link at >>> >>> http://kde.themes.org/ >>> >>> called "Sourceforge mirrors," which will take you here >>> ftp://download.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/themes.org >>> >>> to a list of themes. >>
Re: [newbie] where to get themes?
Thanks for the link! The message wasn't on the page when I'd checked it (I think!) On Monday 11 June 2001 00:46, Charles A. Punch wrote: > Sam wrote: > > I went to http://kde.themes.org/ to download a couple of themes for KDE. > > But I get a page saying "404 Not Found". In fact, it appears to be the > > same with www.themes.org Does anybody know what's happened to the site, > > and any other good sources of themes? Thanks > > There is a link at > > http://kde.themes.org/ > > called "Sourceforge mirrors," which will take you here > ftp://download.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/themes.org > > to a list of themes.
Re: [newbie] where to get themes?
Sam wrote: > I went to http://kde.themes.org/ to download a couple of themes for KDE. But > I get a page saying "404 Not Found". In fact, it appears to be the same with > www.themes.org Does anybody know what's happened to the site, and any other > good sources of themes? Thanks There is a link at http://kde.themes.org/ called "Sourceforge mirrors," which will take you here ftp://download.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/themes.org to a list of themes. > > > > >
Re: [newbie] LM8.0
I think 8.0 is better. On my box, it was harder to install. I tried several times before it succeded in fully instaling. Configuring my modem and zip drive had to be done after installation, whereas in 7.2, they were configured during installation. All things considered, 8.0 is worth the trouble. I even have a trimmed down (1GB) 8.0 on my laptop. Greg G wrote: > I was thinking about buying 8.0 but wanted to hear > from some who already have it Is it worth the > money or should i wait > thanks > greg >
Re: [newbie] "Windows Shutdown Problem" in Linux?
George Petri wrote: > Hi! > > Everyone knows that certain versions of Windows, when told to "Shut Down", > actually choose to reboot instead. And it seems that my Linux installation > has caught this horrible disease (actually it's had this problem ever since I > first installed it). > > Basically, if I select "Shutdown" from kdm or type in "halt" or "poweroff" or > "telinit 0", it gives lots of shutting-down-whatever-service messages and > then it says: > > System is halted. > > So far so good but then it says "stopping all md devices" and reboots. > Arggh!!! > > Does anyone know why this happens? > .. I haven't the foggiest why this happens, but I have the same problem (sometimes). I can shutdown normally twice, but the third time, it will reboot instead. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user 217118 > > > >
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Penguin Paranoia is totally unfounded
Dan LaBine wrote: > I'm not sure what this guy is talking about, but whatever it is, he makes no > sense. First, he sounds like he purposely became a skeptic about O/S > evangelism. What exactly is that?? Is he saying that we've elevated the > mighty Tux to the level of a diety? . I am Christian. I worship Jesus Christ. I do a Bible study mailing list for a prison ministry. I keep a database for a ministry to the homeless and keep in touch with my partners in ministry through email. It just so happens that I can do these things much more effectively on Linux than I can on Windows. I have never used Mac, so I can't say whether or not it is better or worse than Linux, but the sharing of knowledge and even products that we see in the Linux community, is much closer to Biblical priciples than the rampant capitalism we see in Apple and Microsoft. I don't bow down to Tux as an idol, but I do salute Linus for his gift to the world and the whole concept of open source. I just downloaded the Bible Reader, a very good Bible program by David White, which rivals some very expensive commercial software. He also personally responded to a question I posted on this list and his response corrected the problem I was having. IHaven't gotten that kind of support anywhere else, even for a fee. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Bible Study Teacher Registered Linux user #217118 in Tux we type, but in God we trust Yah Veh Nissi, is our banner! Yah Shua Messiach, is Sovreign Shalom!
Re: [newbie] Fixing Ugly Fonts corrected with Verdana ref font in Control Center
Romanator wrote: > Romanator wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I fixed my font problem by ... Remember, you should install the Windows fonts >> to access the extra fonts. > > Just wondering if there is a way to install the windows fonts from the Windows CD >Rom on my desktop, which is a Linux only box. I did the "Get windows fonts" on my >laptop, which is half and half Win 98 and LMD 8.0 and it seems a little better. Is >there maybe a way to copy the fonts and transfer them? ShalomOut Chal >
Re: [newbie] Tecra8100 + Mandrake 7.2
James Hallam wrote: > hi again, > > has anyone had any experience of installing drak7.2 on a Toshiba Tecra 8100 > laptop > > i can install 7.2 but cannot get X up and running. > > thanks in advance I have a Satellite Pro 465 CDX, which I have used some Tecra settings, which worked for me, when there were none for a 465 CDX. I can't even find 465 CDX on Toshiba's website, but that's beside the point. I assume that they are somewhat similar. I am still a newbie at this, but this may help you. I have been running LM 7.1 for a while with no problems. I ran 6.5 before that. 6.5 was allright, but since I have a Win modem, I couldn't connect. 7.1 reads my Win modem without a hitch (I am writing this from my 465 CDX running LM 7.1). I didn't do anything special, I just set up a DNS with ELN/ and it worked from the get go. 7.2 however, would not read it. It seems that some people like 7.2 better, but I went back to 7.1, for more than one reason. The Modem was just one of them. I had problems with 7.2 on both my 465 CDX and on my Gateway desktop, so I'm not sure if it is system specific or if it is something I am doing wrong. Neither one of my boxes are even close to what could be considered Linux compatible hardware, so it's amazing that it will run at all on them. Even if it is something I am doing wrong, 7.1 is a safer option. 7.2 is pretty, but I want something fuctional. It's a shame though, that K Office thingie loooks sweet. I read somewhere on this list, that slackware is a better alternative for notebooks. I might check that out next. No matter how much trouble it is, it's got to be less than Windows. ShalomOut Chal
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Mark Johnson wrote: > My impression is that the Linux community in general cannot decide whether > linux should be seen as a viable desktop alternative to Windows and MAC, or > a viable backend alternative to Solaris, or simply as a hobbyist OS. (To me > the former is very debatable, the laters are more realistic.) > > I think that linux will never be a viable desktop for the masses until > productivity software is as common as it is for Windows (but then, i guess, > linux programmers would have to contend with the "dumb windows user" > mentality). I know that a couple of months ago the Linux Journal had a > multi-media issue that showed how linux could be used for generating music > and movies, and while interesting, it's not even comparable to the > multimedia power of the MAC and BeOS. (I can't open any application without > XMMS "coughing" on me) > > To me it seems that despite all linux advances it is still _just_ an > inexpensive internet sever (web, mail, news, etc..), and a hobbyist OS for > developers. I think a lot of the reason why is the elitism that Linux folks > have and distain for the "dumb windows user." What's needed is a real > paradigm shift within the community. Yeah, we have token companies like > Gnome and Eazel that genuinely care and are compassionate about the computer > food-chain, but this isn't enough. (What's up with this in-fighting between > KDE and Gnome?) > > Then again, maybe the fate of linux is never to become a computer for the > common user, but rather a development environment for programmers and web > developers. We seem very divided on this issue. > > One last thing, I'm not complaining really, it just that I think there are > different priorities that drive linux compared to the other OSs. > Consequently, there are opportunity costs and trade-offs. The thing that > really bothers me is the elitism. > > -Original Message- > From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 9:35 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux > > using the expert mode on the install, my package install was 347.2mb. > That includes KDE2 with Koffice the network stuuf. Blackbox. Abiword and > all the other stuff that is needed. > After adding a bunch of updated and stuff from the unsupported dir it > whent up to 422.7 mb. > > Now mandrake make it so easy to add/remove packages that when I need to > compile a program from source, I install those packages then and remove > them when I am finshed. > > Mark Hillary > Registered Linux User 200755 > > eryl wrote: > > > john rigby wrote: > > > > > >> The 99.99% of people out in the Cyberbog that Linux NEEDS to > >> reach/convert to save us all from Bill, do not need now, in the > >> future, ever, ANY Development Tools. > >> > > > > I agree. That's been one of the problems I have with linux. When I > > hand a linux disk to one of my Windows using friends to try, I tell them > > that the minimum workstation GUI install will take about 1.5 gigabytes. > > Everyone gives me the "Huh". Why? Because Windoze 98, with office and > > a bunch of other programs takes about 600 meg. The distros need > > something like a "Minimal GUI Install" that includes KDE office, One > > text editor, one file manager, etc. Everything should be available, but > > face it--for these newbies it's not necessary. Once they find out that > > they really like using linux, then they have room to experiment. My Mom > > does not need 5 different terminals or 6 window managers, and she will > > never have any use for developmental tools. Just another 2 cents from a newbie; I use Linux because IT WORKS! The first PC I ever used was plain Vanilla DOS. Back then we carved our own windows and climbed in and out of them the hard way, with a little help from our friends. The Linux community seems to have that same spirit. I have been using Windows for a few years, but have never liked it. LM was the answer to my problem. I think that LM could be an alternative to Windows, not by making it more "user friendly," but by getting more productivity software to run efficiently on it, without having to be a programmer to install it. That doesn't mean to make it "for idiots." Can't we find a happy medium? User friendly, to me just means "limited." I would like to see LM become less like MS, not more! LM 7.2 was a big dissapointment to me. I went back to 7.1, which is the best OS I have ever used. I hope that the next distribution will have all the bugs out of it, because 7.2 would have been really nice, if I could get it to run properly. As it stands, it was just a tease. ShalomOut Chal
Re: [newbie] Got RealPlayer?
Don McKee wrote: > > I already tried that. The problem is that after I select UNIX, there is > > no Mandrake 7.0 in the selections on the next page. There are 2 Redhats > > and a few others that I am not familiar with. I am a newbie and have only > > had experience with Open Linux, Mandrake 6.2 and Mandrake 7.0. I tried > > one of the Red Hat selections, but when I try to install, either as > > upgrade or new install, I get an error message; conflicts with ( such and > > such) existing file. Ialso tried one of the selections with an rpm > > extension and it did the same thing. > > The "Linux 2.x (libc6 i386) RPM" is the one you want, but you may need > to install from the command line. The instructions on the download page > say > > 4.Once you've successfully completed the download, you will > be ready to install the RealPlayer. > > Rename the uncompressed file. > > Type mv rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_cs1_rpm > rp7.linux20.libc6.i386.cs1.rpm > > To install this package, use the standard rpm install command. > You must be logged in as root to install this package. > > Type rpm -i rp7.linux20.libc6.i386.cs1.rpm > > For Red Hat 5.x installations: Employ the --nodeps option of the > RPM installer.Users updating current installations should use the > --force option. > > So, if you are having problems, try (from the console, as root) > > rpm -i --nodeps rp7.linux20.libc6.i386.cs1.rpm > > or > > rpm -i --nodeps --force rp7.linux20.libc6.i386.cs1.rpm > > Good luck! > > -Don Thanx Don. I finally got it installed. The problem was that I had to uninstall another version that I had tried and it didn't work. It was conflicting with the new install. I did it from KPackage, but I had to do a fresh install rather than an update. I would never have known if it was the right file if you had not told me. Ireally appreciate it. You saved me hours of fiddling around with trial and error. ShalomOut Chal
Re: [newbie] Got RealPlayer?
Don McKee wrote: > > I already tried that. The problem is that after I select UNIX, there is > > no Mandrake 7.0 in the selections on the next page. There are 2 Redhats > > and a few others that I am not familiar with. I am a newbie and have only > > had experience with Open Linux, Mandrake 6.2 and Mandrake 7.0. I tried > > one of the Red Hat selections, but when I try to install, either as > > upgrade or new install, I get an error message; conflicts with ( such and > > such) existing file. Ialso tried one of the selections with an rpm > > extension and it did the same thing. > > The "Linux 2.x (libc6 i386) RPM" is the one you want, but you may need > to install from the command line. The instructions on the download page > say > > 4.Once you've successfully completed the download, you will > be ready to install the RealPlayer. > > Rename the uncompressed file. > > Type mv rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_cs1_rpm > rp7.linux20.libc6.i386.cs1.rpm > > To install this package, use the standard rpm install command. > You must be logged in as root to install this package. > > Type rpm -i rp7.linux20.libc6.i386.cs1.rpm > > For Red Hat 5.x installations: Employ the --nodeps option of the > RPM installer.Users updating current installations should use the > --force option. > > So, if you are having problems, try (from the console, as root) > > rpm -i --nodeps rp7.linux20.libc6.i386.cs1.rpm > > or > > rpm -i --nodeps --force rp7.linux20.libc6.i386.cs1.rpm > > Good luck! > > -Don Thanx, I have that one and I will try it like you said. Thanx for the detail. ShalomOut Chal
Re: [newbie] Got RealPlayer?
KompuKit wrote: > go to my downloads section under linux > > and you'll find one...for mandrake > > http://kompukit.dyndns.org > > go now...as I'm going to be shutting down soon > > "Charles A. Punch" wrote: > > > > I am Looking for an upgrade for RealPlayer. I am running Mandrake 7.0 > > and the RealPlayer site doesn't have a selction for mandrake. I tried > > Red Hat and a 2.0 rpm package. Any suggestions will be appreciated. > > > > ShalomOut > > Chal > > -- > Registered Linux User:167369 > <=KompuKit=> > Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. > Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com > WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org > (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S & S 12pm-12am EST) > <=KompuKit=> Thanx! I missed the boat this time (didn't check mail till Sat. morn), but I appreciate the help. I will get it Monday. Thanx again. ShalomOut Chal
Re: [newbie] Got RealPlayer?
Roger Sherman wrote: > On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:26:45 -0500, you wrote: > > >I am Looking for an upgrade for RealPlayer. I am running Mandrake 7.0 > >and the RealPlayer site doesn't have a selction for mandrake. I tried > >Red Hat and a 2.0 rpm package. Any suggestions will be appreciated. > > > >ShalomOut > > Chal > > > > > > Go to real.com, follow the links to get RealPlayer Basic. When you get > to the part where you select your OS, select Unix, and at that point > you should automatically be taken to a page that has the appropriate > i386 RPM. > > peace, > > Rog > http://www.slammingrooves.com I already tried that. The problem is that after I select UNIX, there is no Mandrake 7.0 in the selections on the next page. There are 2 Redhats and a few others that I am not familiar with. I am a newbie and have only had experience with Open Linux, Mandrake 6.2 and Mandrake 7.0. I tried one of the Red Hat selections, but when I try to install, either as upgrade or new install, I get an error message; conflicts with ( such and such) existing file. Ialso tried one of the selections with an rpm extension and it did the same thing. A version of RealPlayer came with Mandrake 7.0, but it is expired. Forget the MTV, I want my RealPlayer. One of the selections on the RealPlayer page may indeed work, but I am afraid to do too much experimenting because, I am very inexperienced especially at installing from anything but kpackage or rpmdake. ShalomOut Chal
[newbie] Got RealPlayer?
I am Looking for an upgrade for RealPlayer. I am running Mandrake 7.0 and the RealPlayer site doesn't have a selction for mandrake. I tried Red Hat and a 2.0 rpm package. Any suggestions will be appreciated. ShalomOut Chal
