[newbie] Lynksys etherfast PCMCIA card installation
Hi, All; I'll try to be as specific (without being wordy) as possible. If more information is needed, I'll try to provide it. Thanks in advance for reading and for any assistance that you may be able to share. Trying to install my Linksys fast ethernet card (PCM100) in an IBM laptop 380ED with P166 CPU, 80MB RAM and a 5.1 GB HDD running Linux-Mandrake v8.1. L-M v8.1 has included the Tulip driver (thanks, Derek). When I try to install the driver, this message: "In some cases, the Digital 21040/21041/21140 (Tulip) driver needs to have extra information to work properly, although it normally works fine without." It then asks I want to autoprobe or to specify options. checking the autoprobe option yields: "Loading module Digital 21040/21041/21140 (Tulip) failed. Do you want to try again with different parameters?" I click yes and am shown several options (requesting information I don't know how to provide) as shown here: tulip_debug (i) _ max_interrupt_work (int) _ rx_copybreak (i) _ csr0 (i) _ options (1-8i) _ full_duplex (1-8i) _ (Please bear in mind that I am very new to Linux and know no Unix; I am working to get away from MS and realize it'll take time. I am writing from an old desktop on which L-M 8.0 has been installed.) Visiting this page: <http://www.scyld.com/network/tulip.html>, I found information that (to someone who knew more than I do) must surely be of help but it doesn't give someone in my position quite enough to know how to proceed. What parameters should I use for those 6 options to try to get this NIC to function? It is how I'll make my connection to the net with that machine as with this one (cable modem). One more thing; the BIOS in this box only allow 2 options (password and boot disc sequencing); it does not let me ask that the BIOS take care of pnp functions. Reading the specs page for this box at IBM imply that this is how the BIOS is set up, however. In any case, Drake doesn't detect any networking device when that PCMCIA card is in place. Thanks again, Dave (who's going looney over this card) -- Pray for Peace Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux 8.1 in a Thinkpad 380ED; BIOS?
Hi, All; When I access my BIOS, I can find no options. I want to install an etherfast PC card but without access to the options in my BIOS, Linux isn't detecting it. Anyone have a similar situation with a fix that worked for your machine? Thanks in advance, Dave -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IBM Thinkpad 600X / Opinion on Tops vs. Bottoms
On Saturday 25 August 2001 11:50, h3rb wrote: > I have a 600x. Mandrake 8.0 would not install on it. This may or may not be of any help since your specific issue was not detailed but I read on the L-M site that Thinkpads "use a non-standard timing scheme of the psaux port" which was not figured into the new kernel . It was suggested there that one using a TP who is having trouble with their mouse operating during the installation (including freezing the machine), that the boot disk should use the cd-rom (or appropriate) image found on the installation disk at images|alternatives and then choosing the appropriate image to make your boot disk with rawwrite for initiating the installation. For more information on the subject of this and other installation problems, look here: <http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/80last.php3> I have an old TP 380ED and had no trouble installing once I made the right (ie: 2.2.19) boot floppy. Opinion on the issue of top vs. bottom posting: If you want someone to read your question or remarks, make what you have to say clear and put it in context of the existing thread. Edit the quoted material to it's essential(s). Let's not become too anal (compulsive) about the subject otherwise. There's room for tops and bottoms ;) ...it's all a matter of editing which takes only a moment extra and to do otherwise is common laziness. I simply delete a message written in html because I can't generally read it anyway; such is a waste of the time of the sender not to mention being unnecessarily decadent of other people's HDD space, bandwidth and is just downright rude. Seeing impaired people, for example, don't need to weed through all that extra gobbledygook which is gross noise when voice simmulation equipment is employed. Think. Be considerate. That's not so hard, is it? -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Trouble installing 8.0 on an IBM TP 380ED
I aim to install L-M on an IBM TP 380ED (P166, 80MB RAM, 5GB HD, 20x CD-ROM) so my son and I can take a machine with us to a local group who will be learning Linux. When I try to install, I get a screen I didn't see when installing on my PC, also an older machine. It reads: -- Please choose the mean of installation. NFS Server FTP Server HTTP Server OkCancel -- Without a Network card, I get an error screen which reads: -- No NET device found. Ok -- I checked my BIOS and find that the CD-ROM tests "Ok" (but that I don't have the option to boot from the CD-ROM.) I'm guessing I need a driver for this CD-ROM on my boot floppy but am not sure where to start; is this what's going on? Does anyone know of a way to circumvent this? This is my first notebook. I could not find the manual on line at www.thinkpad.com. The HD was just f-disk'd and formatted tonight; I can't even seem to initiate the install for win98 (though that's what was installed when I got it). Thanks in advance, Dave -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Desktops
On Monday 13 August 2001 19:41, civileme wrote: > > If you cannot turn it off, set the number of desktops to 1 and it > won't happen any more. What is/are the advantage(s) to having multiple desktops available at any given point? -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Basic Question
Right you are, of course; it's a Pentium 133 not a Celeron 133. The rest of what you write about will take some time to sort through as I am using Gnome and not KDE. Thanks, Civilme, Dave On Monday 13 August 2001 19:41, civileme wrote: > On Monday 13 August 2001 12:02, Dave Burrows wrote: > > Running L-M 8.0, Celeron 133, 64MB RAM; using Gnome/Enlightenment > > (yes, it's all very slow and so on but hey, the machine was free > > and it's what I could afford.. it'll let me learn some fundamentals > > as I build a better box for L-M) > > > > Description of issue: When certain apps are open (for example, KDE > > Mail, Mozilla), if I move the curser to the right edge of the > > screen, the screen I'm wanting to use slides all the way left > > exposing my desktop and it's a nuissance to get it back on task > > again. > > > > Question: How can I prevent this from happening? > > > > Thanks in advance for your response, > > > > Dave > > Well, first you can show me a Celeron 133--I've never seen one of > those;-) > > Usually in KDE there will be a preferences or config setting that > causes you to go to the next window when the mouse approaches the > edge of the current one and there is a desktop in that direction. > > You should be able to turn it off (how you got it on is an > interesting question, because it is default off. > > If you cannot turn it off, set the number of desktops to 1 and it > won't happen any more. > > The turn-off should be on the menu path Configuration=>KDE It will > be called something like Windows wrap. > > > Civileme > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Content-Description: > ---- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: Basic Question
Running L-M 8.0, Celeron 133, 64MB RAM; using Gnome/Enlightenment (yes, it's all very slow and so on but hey, the machine was free and it's what I could afford.. it'll let me learn some fundamentals as I build a better box for L-M) Description of issue: When certain apps are open (for example, KDE Mail, Mozilla), if I move the curser to the right edge of the screen, the screen I'm wanting to use slides all the way left exposing my desktop and it's a nuissance to get it back on task again. Question: How can I prevent this from happening? Thanks in advance for your response, Dave -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KB/s....kb/sec can somome explain please
Heya, Tom; Cool.. thanks! But what do you mean by "that Uncle Billy spyware you're touting"? (You're not a dang REPUBLICAN, are you? ) and "M$ virus-hacker-junk add magnet" (I actually REGISTEREED my copy; no ads) Will it: a) reconnect a broken internet connection? b) Resume where it left off? That's most of what I care about. My machine has never been infected by a virus (after 4.5 Years). I've nothing to hide and I'm cash poor. It worked. So where's the beef? Dave :) Ps; I saved your message to refer back to when I'm to the point of having the ability to use Linux for purposes other than confounding myself simple. Tom Brinkman wrote: > > On Sunday 28 January 2001 04:54 pm, Dave Burrows wrote: > > Ahah! I'm one up on someone here, at least! I use a download manager > > called GoZilla! (a Windows app) which will: > > > Other software like it exists but this is the one that made the best > > sense to me. Anything like it exist in the Linux environment? > > HEll YES, and it's _A LOT_ better than that Uncle Billy spyware you're > touting, >nt-1.19-1mdk... rpmavailable on any Mandrake /contrib mirror. > ~ > Group : Networking/File transfer Source RPM: > nt-1.19-1mdk.src.rpm (<-- I always build src rpms from /contrib) > Size: 1063733 License: Free to > redistribute and to modify > URL : http://www.krasu.ru/soft/chuchelo > Summary : Web Downloader for X > Description : This is a powerful network utility which can to download > and resume anything on ftp or www. > ~~ >PLUS, you can throttle it to only use part of your connection > bandwidth so you can go about your other business. PLUS, you'll be > connecting with Linux and not a M$ virus-hacker-junk add magnet. > -- > Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]Galveston Bay -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] KB/s....kb/sec can somome explain please
Hi, Olly; Makes no sense to me either other than a) I already have a dedicated phone line for my modem and b) I could do it myself without waiting for someone else to do something for me and c) I dind't know about cheapbites until today (despite the fact that I'd written to this list a couple of times about this issue before and during the download). :) Dave "Oliver L. Plaine Jr." wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 16:28:48 -0500, you wrote: > > >ROFL! I just downloaded the ISO files for L-M at an average download speed > >of less than 2.0 KB/s so, brother, I think I understand slow connections. > >It took 5.5 days to get all the data in the two ISO files and another day > >to figure out how to commit them to a CD. > > > >Now.. what the heck do I do next? > > > >Dave > --- > Sun, 28 Jan 2001 16:56:23 > > Please help me understand Dave...why would you torture yourself this > way, when you could just pop up to the "cheapbytes" website and order > a nice set of disc's for about $1.98..? they would be to your mailbox > in five days? without tying up your phone. > > Olly P > Biloxi -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] KB/s....kb/sec can somome explain please
Ahah! I'm one up on someone here, at least! I use a download manager called GoZilla! (a Windows app) which will: a) re-establish a broken connection, say, when I'm working, sleeping or when I'm.. oh, never mind b) resume the download exactly where it left off. The shareware can be had here: <http://www.gozilla.com/> Other software like it exists but this is the one that made the best sense to me. Anything like it exist in the Linux environment? Dave Digital Wokan wrote: > > I think I'd rather just pay Cheapbytes.com than worry about dropping my > connection over 5.5 days. -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] KB/s....kb/sec can somome explain please
DEAR Tom; You're a dirty rotten scoundrel and a BRAGGART besides! :) Dave (who wants to crawl inside a cave.. he feels so dull and behind about this s***) Thomas Webster wrote: > > > ROFL! I just downloaded the ISO files for L-M at an average download > speed > > of less than 2.0 KB/s so, brother, I think I understand slow connections. > > It took 5.5 days to get all the data in the two ISO files and another day > > to figure out how to commit them to a CD. > > > > Now.. what the heck do I do next? > > I downloaded both the files in about an hour with total bandwidths of up to > 2Mb/s... :) > > -Tom Webster -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] KB/s....kb/sec can somome explain please
ROFL! I just downloaded the ISO files for L-M at an average download speed of less than 2.0 KB/s so, brother, I think I understand slow connections. It took 5.5 days to get all the data in the two ISO files and another day to figure out how to commit them to a CD. Now.. what the heck do I do next? Dave "Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: > > A 56K connection will give you a download speed of about 5.2KB/s. > > Etc. > > This makes you appreciate how slow modems really are. -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] Double drat..
Hmmm.. I bet you're right. That's not all I have to learn.I use Nero for burning (which, it seems, has no association with ISO files) and Direct CD for pocket writing. I have an old copy of Easy CD Creator (Adaptec) and will download the upgrade so I can follow the instructions I found this morning on the L-M site in a document called "How to burn a Mandrake CD from an iso9660 file under Windows? [By Laurent Daniel Sinitambirivoutin]" <http://www.linux-mandrake.com/howtos/iso/howtoisoen.html#ECD> Dave KompuKit wrote: > > This is the reason...you only see one file with an ISO > extension... > it is because you NEVER actually burned it correctly... > instead ...you only copied the iso file to the CD... > > learn how to burn,,, is my suggestion > > (contains no tree > > nor even 1 directory, only the ISO file.. which is exactly the correct size > > as compared to what I downloaded.) > > Dave Burrows wrote: > > > > Hi, John and all; > > > > Early this morning (about 4:11 am), I finished downloading the ISO files > > that I began last Sunday evening. It took only 5.5 days to download both > > ISO > > files with my super duper speedy delivery dial-up connection. ;) > > > > I tried to install this version of Linux-Mandrake, having been burned to CD > > but am told by the installer that it doesn't appear to be a Linux-Mandrake > > disk. After several attempts including 1 with the purchased CD (which > > contains only a beta of KDE2.0 but which initializes correctly) I booted > > back to Windows and looked at the purchased disk (showed a number of > > directories as expected) and at the one I had just burned (contains no tree > > nor even 1 directory, only the ISO file.. which is exactly the correct size > > as compared to what I downloaded.) > > > > I decided that I better test the install boot (floppy) disk I made, > > thinking that it might be pointing to something it can't find on the CD. > > (by the way, the CD device I used to try to install either disk is the > > writer not the > > CD-ROM; everything works fine with the purchased disk but not the one I > > burned) In my BIOS, i changed the boot order to boot from the the cd > > device, > > then C:\ then A:\. On reboot, I read that CD failed and it booted to C:\. > > I tried both CD devices with the same failure resulting. > > > > What must I do to make this file function? A rhetorical question: 4.5 > > years ago when I was totally new to Windows (had only ever used a DOS > > machine before that), I never had this much trouble with that OS nor since; > > why do I want this one so much? Rhetoric off, rant on: why IS this such a > > bugger to install and configure for someone who is not a programmer and > > 'only' a user? Wouldn't Linux be more likely to do some serious damage to > > the MS market if it were a little more user friendly? Rant off. > > > > Tenacity reigns; I still want Linux. Any suggestions anyone? > > > > Dave > > > > John W wrote: > > > > > > You can download the ISO image and burn that to a cd/cd's. I have also > > > looked at the mandrake mirrors and in the past have downloaded everything > > > except the lin4win and dostools to my harddrive in a folder named Mandrake > > > and have then created a boot image to boot up and direct the installer the > > > Mandrake DIR and installed from a Fat partition. > > > -- > > > John W -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
[newbie] Double drat..
Hi, John and all; Early this morning (about 4:11 am), I finished downloading the ISO files that I began last Sunday evening. It took only 5.5 days to download both ISO files with my super duper speedy delivery dial-up connection. ;) I tried to install this version of Linux-Mandrake, having been burned to CD but am told by the installer that it doesn't appear to be a Linux-Mandrake disk. After several attempts including 1 with the purchased CD (which contains only a beta of KDE2.0 but which initializes correctly) I booted back to Windows and looked at the purchased disk (showed a number of directories as expected) and at the one I had just burned (contains no tree nor even 1 directory, only the ISO file.. which is exactly the correct size as compared to what I downloaded.) I decided that I better test the install boot (floppy) disk I made, thinking that it might be pointing to something it can't find on the CD. (by the way, the CD device I used to try to install either disk is the writer not the CD-ROM; everything works fine with the purchased disk but not the one I burned) In my BIOS, i changed the boot order to boot from the the cd device, then C:\ then A:\. On reboot, I read that CD failed and it booted to C:\. I tried both CD devices with the same failure resulting. What must I do to make this file function? A rhetorical question: 4.5 years ago when I was totally new to Windows (had only ever used a DOS machine before that), I never had this much trouble with that OS nor since; why do I want this one so much? Rhetoric off, rant on: why IS this such a bugger to install and configure for someone who is not a programmer and 'only' a user? Wouldn't Linux be more likely to do some serious damage to the MS market if it were a little more user friendly? Rant off. Tenacity reigns; I still want Linux. Any suggestions anyone? Dave John W wrote: > > You can download the ISO image and burn that to a cd/cd's. I have also > looked at the mandrake mirrors and in the past have downloaded everything > except the lin4win and dostools to my harddrive in a folder named Mandrake > and have then created a boot image to boot up and direct the installer the > Mandrake DIR and installed from a Fat partition. > -- > John W -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] Win2000 Partition
Meph Istopheles wrote: > > Ask if you don't know anything about recompiling. Meph and all; While I'm not to this point yet, I'd sure be interested in reading about this. Consider yourself/ves asked. :) -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
[newbie] Linux Partitions & saving configurations
I have a really basic question; when one configures hardware for linux, is that configuration always lost when a re-install or upgrade is performed or can it be saved? Given: a Linux drive with 3 partitions (root, swap and home with the OS and related packages installed on home). If only home were formatted during install, would the customization and configuration need be done again? I have almost no time to actively work on Linux during the week. Still I find it difficult to think about anything else and most everything else seems a distraction. Dave -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] Networking question...
I'm with similar questions. Looking forward to hearing responses to this. What hardware is necessary if 2 or 3 machines will be networked in a LAN, connection sharing, etc.)? What working/cost differences are there between hubs, routers and switches or are 2 or more of these synonymous? Dave (I originally posted this on Wednesday at just about the time everything became silent for a while.. early afternoon NY time. If you did receive this and the next message, please accept my humble apologies. It never came back to my box nor did I see a response to it.) Matt Schroeder wrote: > > Can I use a switch instead of a router to connect a Linux and a Win 98 > machine? > > I know most people use a router but I have a 16 port switch that I got for > cheap... (SMC EZ NET 10/100 Switch - 16 Ports) > > It says it also works as a router but can dramatically improve networking > speed as a switch... > > I have no manuals or anything. Just the switch itself. > > Also, can I later add a DSL modem to the switch and share my DSL between the > systems? > > I know so little about networking that it's a shame. > > Are there any how to's or anything that might help out... -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] sing both cdrw and cdrom from X
Hola; After reading your details, I noticed you are from Murcia! While I have never been to Spain, my son and I have hosted 3 exchange students from Spain, and the last was from Murcia. Alejandro Romero Tejero. I have not heard from him in a while but I know I will again one day. I would like to visit Spain a lot. I'm real glad to have known all 3 boys. Anyway, your message is timely as I just installed Linux-Mandrake for the first time and my CD-ROM and CD-RW are not working although I can see them both in the device manager. What confused me until your message was that there were 2 incidents of the CD-RW, the second, a SCSI. I have no SCSI devices or interface on my machine. What you said sorta cleared up that mystery and also gave me an avenue of approach to make my drives operational. Gracias, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello again > This is not a message with a problem, but with a solution. > Under mandrake 7.1 in my old Pentium II xcdroast detected both, the > cdrom and the cdwriter. Under MDK 7.2 just the cdwriter emulating scsi > is recognized, so the cdwriter must work hard, reading the origen cd and > writing the new cd. > Actually this is the situation using MDK installation, but I have read > that this could be solved, I will show the steps I have followed in my > case. I have a Sony CR-X160E cdwriter and a Hitachi DVD. The scsi > emulation has been installed by Mandrake 7.2 just for the cdwriter, but > it is also possible to do that for the DVD. > > Firs of all in my case the cdwriter is the hdc (ide 1, master) and the > DVD is the hdd (ide 1, slave). > 1) In all the lines of /boot/grub/menu.lst for start linux I had to add > "hdd=ide-scsi" > 2)From a konsole I typed "mknod scd1 b 11 8" > 3) From konsole, I typed "ln -s scd1 cdrom2" > 4) Due to a kudzu bug, I could not acces to cdrom2 for normal use; I > needed to type also:" > "cd /dev &&rm cdrom2 && ln -s scd1 cdrom2" > to solve the wrong link created by kudzu. > 5) Restart linux > > It was easy to comprobate if everything were running; I try to read > pc-cdroms from both cdrom units; no problems. I load the udf module and > my DVD Hitachi could read a DVD disk. And to know if the scsi emulation > was also running I use the next commands: > cdrecord --scanbus (both cdrom and cdwriter were shown) > cat /proc/scsi/scsi (similar results) > run xcdroast and go to setup; both drivers appears. > > Now I can read the cds using my Hitachi DVD and burn they using the Sony > CDwriter. ¡great! > > Se you soon > > Francisco Alcaraz > Murcia (Spain) -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] l-m doesnt detect my modem or printer
Hi, Michelle; I'm struggling with the modem issue myself right now (making progress, thanks to Charles). Please search the archives for "winmodem" and you'll find a number of discussions about these and other sorts of softmodems including linmodems for Linux systems, available for a few modems. A number of websites have been linked in just the past few days. But I can help you, I think, with the printer. I use an hp712c which is on the list. Just a little while ago by coincidence, I was using DiskDrake to poke around and look at stuff and noticed the driver installed for my printer was 710c.. not surprising since they're part of the same series. It is surprising that the 712c is and the 710c isn't on the list when it appears as though it's the 710c driver used for at least those 2 printers. Other possibilities also exist. In any case, try the 712c. I think that'll get you to where you want to be. Mine installed and tested well during the install. Great little printer, isn't it? um, wait.. I just noticed.. you are installing 7.1. Hmm.. I may have to step back a minute because I installed 7.2. Still, our printers are older than 7.1 so they ought to be included. Have you considered using 7.2? :) Another possible culprit might be that your BIOS are set to let the OS find your PnP devices. I believe with both Windows and Linux OS, the OS relies on the BIOS to detect your PnP devices so the option should read "no" or "disable". If you've not been in there before, it can be a little intimidating but if you pay attention to what you do, change nothing unless you are sure (this option, when you find it with the PnP options in your Setup, is the one you should change in this session and no other) and read the prompts in the legend to navigate, you'll be fine. If you are familiar with your BIOS, you probably already know to do this. Hopefully, someone else reading might find it useful. You see, if the BIOS think the OS system is supposed to detect PnP devices and the OS isn't programmed to, none are found. Since you didn't mention your CD device(s), I am guessing that this is not the issue in your case. Dave michelle cain wrote: > > hi, > > i recently installed l-m 7.1, and it detects neither my modem (56K, V.90 > compatible data/fax modem) nor my printer (hp deskjet 710c). the printer > drivetrs are not on the list it shows - is there anywhere i can download > them? mind you, that wont help unless i can connect. > > thanks, > michelle -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???
Perhaps you were pointing also to what follows but deeper on the page to which you linked earlier: -- Error scenario: Cannot switch to Expert mode with the Complete/Desktop product When: During installation Why: The Complete/Desktop product is designed for beginners, not experts Solution: If you really need to switch to expert mode, for example to install an X server other than the default server, press Alt-E (hold the Alt key down then press E). Then click again on the installation step you were executing (in the left column) to restart in expert mode. Alt-E is a toggle, so you can switch back to the default (Recommended) mode later by pressing this key combination again. -- Will try this later. Wonder if this mode will give more options for the programs to be installed than the custom mode did. civileme wrote: > When the update disk arrives, follow the special install instructions given at > > http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/72last.php3 -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] Resizing Partitions
Clem; I'm only a few days old into Linux, too.. so am not taking expert status here but your situation is not unlike mine. I can't say that this is the right way, the best way or even the safest way but here's how I did it. I used a 1986 copy of Partition Magic (v. 3.0; it's what I had and the new version is $65 or better) to reduce the size of my existing partitions. This put free space in essentially unusable areas of the HD. Then, I moved what remained of the drives (you can't move the free space, at least in the version I used) to consolidate the free space and closed PM. When I rebooted Windows, it saw the resized drives but the "lost" free space was unaccounted for anywhere. My 8.1 GB drive is now just under 6 GB to Windows. When I got to the point of the Linux install, I used the expert mode (in other installations, I read that option is called DiskDrake) and began by making a 128 MB swap drive. I also made 2 others with the bulk of the 2 GB I still had free. Out of curiosity, I looked at what I'd done later in PM again. It saw the 3 new little drives and noted them as "other" in the legend. A newer version of PM might know what to call them. Windows saw nothing of the space or of the drives that Linux made. To my way of thinking, this put the data I had in the least jeopardy (aside from the risk of having used software to partition that was designed for Win95) and it was in a way that made sense to me. Partly because I didn't understand fully what Linux needed, I didn't like the idea of Windows and Linux being on the same virtual drive even if a new partition was installed. I don't care to have my peas and mashed potatoes commingling on the same plate with gravy or something slathered over all, either. ;) In retrospect, I'm glad I did it the way I did it but at the same time, if it made better sense to increase my Windows drive than to create the space elsewhere, I wouldn't be as afraid to do it. I hope there is something you can use here. Dave Clem wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm a very newbie Linux-Mandrake user who wants to know what is the best > way to increase the size of my Windows Partition (I played around with > RedHat a while ago, and set up a 7 GB Windows and a 13 GB RH partition - > but most of my memory intensive applications are in Windows). > > Is it possible to use Diskdrake to remove the Linux partitions, then > increase the size of my Windows partition, and then put the Linux ones back > on? > > Or is there a better way of doing it? > > Thanks in advance, > > Clem -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???
it may > > not be an available choice in recommended mode installations, it was not > > available in the custom mode of this early 7.2 version of LM. In fact, > > there were only 2 choices: 300MB minimal and custom installations. There > > are many other differences, too. > > > > What I'm going to do is to just play with what I have for now. As soon as > > I can get a fully functional copy of less dubious integrity, I'll work more > > diligently to make my hardware work. With this arrangement, I am thinking > > it futile. Maybe what I'll do to pacify myself in the meanwhile is to buy > > a modem (to replace my 33.6 winmodem) that is possibly capable of faster > > download speeds, set up my download manager in Win98 and download the ISO > > images for the disks from the web. I am glad to have the manual and the > > books and so forth on the other 2 disks but darn-it, it sure would be nice > > to have a copy that works. > > > > I am glad to have gotten this far in one weekend, though. I delayed Linux > > for close to 2 years, unsure that I'd be able to "do" it. I've read the Re > > Hat newslist from time to time and it appeared as though people, much > > brighter than I about computers, struggled to install and configure it. > > Universally, people seem broadly satisfied with the system and so I figure > > it'll be worth the effort. I was surprised at how easily I could run a > > dual OS drive, the choice made with Grub at boot. I did have some > > partitioning to do both before (with Partition Magic) and during > > installation but they went without a hitch. I see no evidence in Windows > > that Linux even exists on the same machine (and visa versa so far). My old > > PM v. 3.0 had no trouble resizing and moving partions already in existence > > to accomodate the Linux files. > > > > On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Emiliano Ogando wrote: > > > How can i install ppp > > > Please an easy way... civileme wrote: > > Install in expert mode > > DO NOT choose 100% of the packages unless you go for individual package > selection afterward and make sure you do not install printpro, or Zope or any > of the Glide packages (unless you have a Voodoo 3dfx in which case install > ONLY the one for your card). 75-80% is a good number, but again make SURE > printpro is not installed. (It replaces the cups daemon with one of its own > and when printing stops a month later... ) > > When the update disk arrives, follow the special install instructions given at > > http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/72last.php3 > > in the case that you do try the expert install. > > Another word, if you have a video card capable of 3D acceleration with > XFree-4.0.1, do not deviate from the resolution suggested by the installer. > Most cards will work 3D accel only from 65000 colors (16-bit depth) and > choosing another depth will break accel permanently. Once installed, you can > change resolution, and it may break accel until you change it back or it may > not, but during install anything other than 16 bit depth will cause a needed > driver NOT to be loaded. > > Civileme > > Civileme > -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???
> How can i install ppp This is interesting. Did your copy also come from Wal-Mart? I have a boxed version of 7.2 Complete which, I'm told, may not be so complete. Among other things, it's KDE 2.0 is not the final version but a Beta. Apparently, a disk is now on it's way to amend. Thing is, I also got the message that it couldn't find the ppp daemon (pppd) and that I should install it. I dug out RpmDrake and found the files related to pppd (there were 2, I think) and prepared to install them along with Enlightenment and the parts of Gnome that weren't installed initially. It kept telling me that it couldn't communicate with the CD ROM (though it's actually a CD-RW and there are 2 of them in Device Manager though only one on my machine.. in addition to a CD-ROM which appears as it should in Device Manager). That's another issue to swim through. I may also have a Winmodem. Rats. In this version of LM 7.2, the KDE is in Beta as I say. I have 2 users set up: "dave" and "root". The kicker in root works fine and looks just as it did in the screen shots on the web tutorials. However, there is no kicker loaded (and a message telling me so) in dave. (Side note: When does a single user of a machine use root and, in this case, dave?) Apparently, this is one of the issues that the update disk they're sending will solve. More frustratingly, one of many, many points of difference between the software and the manual included with it is illustrated on page 64 of the manual. In that illustration, the text in the window (of available packages from which to choose to install) shows KDE and quite a number of others which are not evident in my installation screen and the ones both (the manual and my software version) share in common are in a different order. The first two times I installed Linux (never used it before Friday night), I selected all the available options but 2; one on personal finances and another for Palm Pilot device interfaces, neither of which I have.About 75% of the data in this 4 minute install came from the first disk with the remainder coming from the second (of the 4 in the package). Below that window is a button to install all components. That choice does install KDE and Gnome (but only 2 other desktop environments, not Enlightenment, BlackBox or any others that looked interesting in the tutorials on the website). Strangely, all but the last 10 seconds of data of a 6 minute install came from the first disk. If the manual said a particular choice detailed there might not be a choice for either recommended or custom modes, it was not not available in this package's custom instalation. Even if the manual warned only that it may not be an available choice in recommended mode installations, it was not available in the custom mode of this early 7.2 version of LM. In fact, there were only 2 choices: 300MB minimal and custom installations. There are many other differences, too. What I'm going to do is to just play with what I have for now. As soon as I can get a fully functional copy of less dubious integrity, I'll work more diligently to make my hardware work. With this arrangement, I am thinking it futile. Maybe what I'll do to pacify myself in the meanwhile is to buy a modem (to replace my 33.6 winmodem) that is possibly capable of faster download speeds, set up my download manager in Win98 and download the ISO images for the disks from the web. I am glad to have the manual and the books and so forth on the other 2 disks but darn-it, it sure would be nice to have a copy that works. I am glad to have gotten this far in one weekend, though. I delayed Linux for close to 2 years, unsure that I'd be able to "do" it. I've read the Re Hat newslist from time to time and it appeared as though people, much brighter than I about computers, struggled to install and configure it. Universally, people seem broadly satisfied with the system and so I figure it'll be worth the effort. I was surprised at how easily I could run a dual OS drive, the choice made with Grub at boot. I did have some partitioning to do both before (with Partition Magic) and during installation but they went without a hitch. I see no evidence in Windows that Linux even exists on the same machine (and visa versa so far). My old PM v. 3.0 had no trouble resizing and moving partions already in existence to accomodate the Linux files. On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Emiliano Ogando wrote: > How can i install ppp > Please an easy way... > -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters
Thanks for the response, Fred; I'm glad to hear that Windows won't see those Linux partitions. From the Linux-Mandrake web site tutorial on partitioning, I read that there's a partitioning option called "Use free space on the Windows Partition" and explains: "Before resizing a hard drive which alreadycontains Windows, it is strongly recommended that you run ScanDisk and Disk Defragmenter from within Windows on the drive. And as always, back-up data you cannot afford to lose before partitioning drives." While it does warn that loss is possible, it doesn't iterate that it's inevitable. Of course, I shall backup that data. There is also an animated illustration of the partitioning in a graphical image that can be seen here: "This animations shows how to quickly and easily partition a drive thatalready contains MS-Windows using DiskDrake." <http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.2/Install/Custom/pages/custom6.php3> Is it certain that Windows will be wiped out of it's share of my old partition? I have used Partition Magic but don't remember that I had to re-install anything then, either, as you imply. Any other feedback shall be warmly received, Dave Fred Schroeder wrote: > > Windows won't see any of the Linux partions. > You do know however, that unless you are using Partition Magic or something > like that, .. and maybe even then, you will lose all of the data on the disk > when you repartion. So make certain you have back-ups. > Fred > > > I have a single drive partitioned into 4 with my current OS (Win98se) > > residing in C:\. Among the options in the install is one to take over > part > > of C:\ for Linux. If I do this, what will happen to the assigned drive > > letters of D:\, E:\ and F:\, CD-ROM and CD-RW; will it reassign them with > > new drive letters? -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
[newbie] Download to CD?
I aim to write the downloadable files to CD. How should the files be distributed between the 2 (if even both CDs of data are included in the downloadable files)? Anyone work this way to install 7.2? I read in one place and here that only 1 CD is necessary to install the most important files. I read in the tutorial that space is frequently a limiting factor in determining which components to install. I read on the web pages that the parts required for the download (Mandrake tree and Images tree) consume 1 Gig of HD space.. 2 CDs. Any feedback? Finally, any other parts of the downloadable files "must have"? -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
[newbie] Pre Instalation query; partitions
I am preparing to install Linux Mandrke 72 as a second OS on my currently Win98 machine (Celeron 366, 128 RAM, 10 gig). For now, I just want to begin learning it; I have no programming skills. My HD is partitioned into 4; OS on C:\ (1.17 gig avail), applications on D:\ (911 meg avail), data I back up nightly (databases, email etc.) on E:\ (1.54 gig avail) and music files on F:\ (178 meg avail but 2 gig potentially so). MY CD-Roms are G:\ (40x) and H:\ (8x8x24x). I am not keen on (but not adamently opposed to) any further partitions if that word is used as I currently understand it. I'd like to put Linux on C, have the option of which OS I want to use when I boot and not alter the drive letters of the remaining drives.. my many shortcuts won't work in that case nor will I have access to my data (on E:\) without re-configuration. Where (and how) might you suggest installing Linux given these particulars? -- Dave Burrows 741 Cleveland Road Washington, PA 15301 USA
