Re: [newbie] X Login On Startup

1999-06-11 Thread Fernando Perez

Hi,

I think the config file is /usr/share/config/kdmrc. You might edit by hand
the appropriate fields and spare yourself a full package reinstall. 

If you get it going, make an oddly named (so it doesn't get easily
overwritten)  backup copy for future cases. Don't use kdmrc.bak or kdmrc~,
those are commonly used by many editors. 

Hope this helps,

Fernando.

On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Eric Popelka wrote:

> Yup, that happened to me before too. My recomendation is:
> 
> delete your old kdebase (rpm -e kdebase)
> reinstall kdebase from the RPMs in the Mandrake distribution
> 
> The only problem is that after you run KDE again, you might have to reconfigure
> some minor details (I had to reinstall my theme. YMMV.)
> 
> On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Richard M Davis wrote:
> > Can someone, por favor, point me at the settings files that dictate the
> > Mandrake 6 login screen. My machine crashed while trying to start 
> > Another Level instead of KDE (I think that's what happened, I've only
> > got patchy details from the guy that perpetrated this evil deed!)
> > 
> > I ran fsck on my /home partition, and everything's almost back to normal
> > EXCEPT the Login Dialog is now just a default KDE, offering only KDE and
> > failsafe, instead of the nice top hat and all the other lovely WM
> > choices which was the default after installation.
> > 
> > I could easily reinstall, but I'd like to understand how this bit of the
> > system setup works, if anyone can help.
> > 
> > Cheers!
> > 
> > Richard
> 



Re: [newbie] New Mandrake user.

1999-06-08 Thread Fernando Perez

Hi,

thanks for the reply. A few comments below,

On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Fernando Perez wrote:
> 
> > 1) True Type. Even though I think I checked every TType-related package during
> > installation, and xfs has the correct TType directory in its load path, the
> > fonts still don't show up anywhere. This kind of bummed me, since "out of the
> > box" TType support was one of the big things touted in the Mandrake homepage.
> 
> It's probably a problem with the update procedure - it works after a
> "real" install.
> You've probably forgotten to run mkttfdir.

I do have the fonts.dir file in the ttfonts directory, and this is being
loaded by xfs (checked with chkfontpath --list). So I don't know what's
going on. I might scrap the whole thing and reinstall from scratch.

> AFAIK 21.x is beta. If there's a working stable version, we'd rather not
> include beta versions in the distrib.

"Current Version: 21.1, released May 14, 1999", from www.xemacs.org.
21.0.67 was beta, but I beleive 21.1.2 is considered stable. I could be
wrong, though. 20.4 is good anyway, so it's not a big deal.

Anyway, great distro. Keep up the good work.

Cheers,

Fernando Pérez.



Re: [newbie] New Mandrake user.

1999-06-08 Thread Fernando Perez

Hi, 

great to see replies from the developers, it makes one feel like it's
really worth putting some effort into discussing the distro to make it
better. Thanks.

On 8 Jun 1999, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> 
> > 1) True Type. Even though I think I checked every TType-related package during
> > installation, and xfs has the correct TType directory in its load path, the
> > fonts still don't show up anywhere. This kind of bummed me, since "out of the
> > box" TType support was one of the big things touted in the Mandrake homepage.
> > I've tried to fix it but I'm not too sure even where to start. Any
> > suggestions appreciated.
> 
> Well here and all computers i have tested i didn't find any
> problem. The things to check :
> 
> 1. if 
> /usr/sbin/chkfontpath --list, give 
> 
> 7:   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ttfonts 
> 
> or any other number.
> 
> 2. if you have the file :
> 
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ttfonts/fonts.dir
>
> if not, create it with :
> 
> /usr/X11R6/bin/mkttfdir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ttfonts/
> 
> Check with kfontselector or gfontsel normally you have to see it
> (begin with macromedia).
> 

I did check with chkfontpath --list and I *do* have 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ttfonts loaded properly. Also, the fonts.dir file
*is* there, so I'm kind of puzzled as to why I can't see any of the fonts.
I used the preview ftview utility to look at the .ttf files in
/usr/../ttfonts and they seem ok. 

A related ttype fonts question: my system is a Win95/linux double boot in
which I mount my C: drive under linux as /win95 (vfat fs). Since in
C:/windows/../fonts there's a ton of .ttf files, I was wondering if it's
possible (once I get ttype working in Linux to begin with) to have xfs use
also all of these ttype fonts. 

Or is there some subtle incompatibility in the way Microso~1 implements
TType which prevents this? If it's possible, I could just move all my .ttf
files to the C: drive so that they are both accessible under windows95 and
under Linux, which I think would be nice. 

Anyway, I might just scrap the whole thing and do a clean install to see
if it improves things. Now that Mandrake has klyx and XEmacs (the two big
things I had to add onto RedHat by hand) it doesn't bother me too much to
rerun an install from scratch. 


> > 3) Power management for laptops. Another "out of box" goodie that didn't work,
> > and which I was looking forward to. Mandrake's website touts "- Power-saving
> > management control under KDE - laptop control under KDE", so I figured these
> > would be no brainers. I later found the two necessary packages and put them in
> > by hand, but same comment as in (3) applies.
> 
> 
> what package excatly.

I don't have my laptop here so I don't remember exactly, but one was
klaptop???.rpm (which added the laptop category to the KDE control panel)
and the other was kdpms???.rpm (which added DPMS to the desktop section of
the KDE control panel). If this is not enough I can get you the exact
names.

> 
> 
> > Also, it would be nice to update to the new version (21.x) which is
> > a little more modular.
> 
> i have already make the package, the only problem i have split all
> section in a rpm package, the total give more than 80 package :-((

Suggestion: how about grouping the 80 into a few packages by topic? 
Something like base (xemacs itself) plus text-related (text, TeX,
spelling,...), coding-related (C-modes, debugging,...), internet (mail,
news, w3), etc? 

You might bring it down to 5 or 6 total packages this way, and people
could select which ones they need easily (they can always remove
individual lisp modules by hand if from usr/local/lib/xemacs/packages/...
if they don't need them.)

Cheers,

Fernando.



[newbie] New Mandrake user.

1999-06-08 Thread Fernando Perez

Hi everyone,

I'm new to the list, and also new to Mandrake. I just upgraded a RedHat 6.0
laptop and so far things seem good, but I have a few comments. Since I've
realized that the developers keep an eye on this list, hopefully these
comments will be useful in improving the distribution.

The upgrade went in general quite well, but I did run into a few glitches
which I'm sure could be easily addressed.

1) True Type. Even though I think I checked every TType-related package during
installation, and xfs has the correct TType directory in its load path, the
fonts still don't show up anywhere. This kind of bummed me, since "out of the
box" TType support was one of the big things touted in the Mandrake homepage.
I've tried to fix it but I'm not too sure even where to start. Any
suggestions appreciated.

2) KDE Themes. Even though I selected KDE to be installed/configured during
installation, the theme manager was nowhere to be found at boot time. I put it
in by hand from the CD, but this should have been in from the beginning. (If
Mandrake is really to appeal to the newbie, as they claim, these things should
be automatically done).

3) Power management for laptops. Another "out of box" goodie that didn't work,
and which I was looking forward to. Mandrake's website touts "- Power-saving
management control under KDE - laptop control under KDE", so I figured these
would be no brainers. I later found the two necessary packages and put them in
by hand, but same comment as in (3) applies.

4) XEmacs. I already had version 21.0 installed so I didn't need it, but I
couldn't find it listed in the packages available during installation. I've
always thought that not having XEmacs is a glaring omission of RedHat, so it's
great that Mandrake has it (*it is* on the CD). But not listing it during
intallation will probably make most users miss it. If it was there and I just
didn't see it, disregard this comment. Also, it would be nice to update to the
new version (21.x) which is a little more modular.

5) Klyx. Same as above. I use regular lyx which seems to be in more active
development, but klyx is definitely nice, usable and (obviously) integrates
better with KDE. Again, it might have been listed somewhere and I just failed
to see it.

Overall I'm very happy with the system, and Mandrake seems a total winner. But
for this very reason I'd like to see them polish it a little, so it really
rocks out of the box for the newbie who isn't yet up to speed on even simple
things like looking around the RPMS directory for missing stuff. 

It's possible that some of these problems were due to my upgrading a RH6.0
machine instead of doing a clean install, but still I think they shouldn't
have appeared to begin with. Mandrake can definitely take away RedHat
market, but to do so the cross/upgrade process must be as smooth as
possible, making sure that things come up as well for the cross/upgrader
as they do for the first time installer. 

And again, if someone can tell me how to fix the True Type fonts, thanks. 

At any rate, congratulations to the developers, and I hope they find these
comments of some use (suggestion: how about including the DDD debugger, the
other great application besides Lyx and Xemacs missing from RedHat? Then
Mandrake would be *really* complete :-)

Keep up the good work. Cheers,

Fernando Pérez.