Re: [newbie] Feel like joining in?

2002-03-12 Thread Hari Yellina

Mail me off the mailing list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would like to see
what is u r concept and join u Iam a internet developer.

Cheers
Hari Yellina.
www.yellina.org

- Original Message -
From: "Marco Verheul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:28 AM
Subject: [newbie] Feel like joining in?


> Hello fellow Linux users,
>
> An idea popped into my head tonight and I want to do something with it
> rightaway. So let me explain.
>
> I'm relatively new to Linux and I got my LM 8.1 distro running for a
> couple of weeks now very smoothly (most of the times). I visited a lot
> of Linux related websites and it impressed me to see how many ways there
> must be to develop really cool open source software. At this point I'm
> particulary interested in learning the skills to built a dynamic website
> with underlying database technology. Only it seems I have 2 "problems".
> I'm not so creative in coming up with a topic and I don't want to spend
> the whole year figuring out MySQL, PHP etc.. on my own locked away
> behind my desk.
>
> So here's the idea. There must be more people with the same ambitions,
> so why don't we try to come up with ideas to make this work as a group.
> We could build a website about making OUR website (this tackles the
> topic problem), so everybody (including ourselves) can see how we did it
> and learn from it. Off course we would make use of open source software.
> I'm an Oracle programmer myself and I don't have any experience in
> building something the open source way, so who is joining in?
>
> I hope that also the more experienced persons care to join in and let
> others profit from your experience. We need to come up with some sort of
> structure to do this, get a server to which the group can have access I
> suppose and what more..?
>
> Well, surprise me. Oh yeah, I live in Haarlem, the Netherlands.
>
> Marco
>
>
>






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Re: [newbie] Minimizing the cult factor

2002-03-11 Thread Hari Yellina

As a Microsoft developer and using Microsoft product for many day. I want to 
tell u guys. Microsoft is going to survive, but remember. After using 
mandrake linux, I suspected linux is gonna sit in a conner. It is gonna take 
substantail amount of users from the server market as well as desktop. 

 Few movies in Hollywood as done in linux. It is growing and no one is gonna 
stop it. But every operating  system has to face the threat of Linux growing 
user base. As lond as it is gonna maintain standrad as a unique product of 
linux flavour. All the distributions are gonna see the same track. 

 Linux mandrake took me with a surprise and I have virtually nothing to pay 
as well. 

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:48, you wrote:
> about the "taking or not taking on M$ " .. don't you think
> that all those people ( i.e. me ) that leave windows and use linux
> are growing in number because of this kind of competition?
>
> M$ has blown away every single competitor till now, using incredibly
> agressive, unfair and probably illegal methods. they are scared,
> of course, because linux does not depend on a single company and thus
> there is no clear enemy to crush. but playing Ghandi is not going
> to help us, either. M$ is not giving away any territory, and if linux
> is going to grow, it will be by taking it out of them.
>
> and of course, much of this has to do with advertising and
> media in general. M$ with their FUD stuff, linux with our "we are getting
> so much better" stuff.
>
> i'm not entirely sure i'm making myself clear, i guess i'm too sleepy
> to think right .. :oP
>
> > How is it better? Please name one thing I can't do in GIMP that you can
> > in PShop, other than doing CMYK separations. Don't forget also to factor
> > in that PhotoShop isn't free.
>
> well, ... i could make a list of every single plug-in .. but it could take
> years. i'm not saying gimp can't do this or that, it's just that PS's
> got a plug for everithing and it just makes it easier
>
> *** stop ***
>
> - let's try not to make a Gimp Vs. PS here... i'll drop
> this part of the discussion. it could be endless.
>
> > > oh and one more thing.. yeah i know that very few OS's were designed
> > > with multimedia in mind, but what i wanted to say is, linux was,
> > > as far as i can see ( someone with more knowledge will correct me here
> > > if needed ) built from the ground up to be a very stable and secure
> > > system, and over the years of development all the other stuff, from GUI
> > > installs to the Gimp and freeamp ... just grew afterwards. and this is
> > > not the case with windows, which is almost pure GUI ( wanna call it
> > > bloat? ok! let's call it that >:o)
> >
> > Well I don't get your point, before windoze there was DOS. 
>
> my point is down here.
>
> > > i think it was civileme that said something like " linux was not made
> > > with sound system in mind and it uses very little bandwidth for
> > > sound events "   well, this is exactly what i mean. i was just not
> > > built that way. of course this will change, and i think it will be
> > > soon enough.
> >
> > True, but the kernel can evolve. I find sound working just fine, but
> > then I don't use bloated window managers like KDE that screw up more
> > than they help out.
>
> ... after all, linux is about choice, huh?
>
> > > at least that's the feeling i got.
> > >
> > > i like this kind of discussion very much. i find them educative :oP
> > > please keep replying :o)
> >
> >  However, I think I've had too much caffeine to-day, had a heavy
> > workload to do, and well I think I over did it. It's 1:30am here, I have
> > to work bright n early tomorrow and I can't sleep, 'casue I'm still on a
> > caffeine induced bz. Excuse the rant. (:'>
>
> ok, we can leave it for tomorrow ;oP
> ( it's 04:30 AM here. )
>
> Damian



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Re: [newbie] Re: ximian gnome

2002-03-11 Thread Hari Yellina

Please use KDE is wonderful. 

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 21:35, you wrote:
> > I've started to agree Shane.  Gnome just keeps pissing me off.
>
> for me its the other way round, gnome is perfect 



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Re: [newbie] Remove

2002-03-09 Thread Hari Yellina

Thanks for getting u r mail into my junk mail list. Why do u ask so many 
times to remove. I didnt add u , you did it. Please remove u r self. or else 
live with it. 

On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 08:32, you wrote:
> I don't even have mandrake anymore I switched to redhat
> please remove me the commands to [EMAIL PROTECTED] do not
> work
> Please remove me
> Thanks,
> Joannet



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Re: [newbie] uninstall

2002-03-02 Thread Hari Yellina

Hi, 

 use fdisk from windows. and remove the partition and reformat the drive and 
recreate the drive. This helped me.  Just formating will not help.

Regards, 
Hari Yellina.

On Sun, 3 Mar 2002 03:11, you wrote:
> On Saturday 02 March 2002 04:57, you wrote:
> > hello , i asked this about a half year ago , but the answers were deleted
> > and i hadnt time to deal with it .
>
> A keyword search of the list e-mail archives is sometimes quicker than
> typing a question, in my opinion.
>
> > ok , i need to know how to unistall linux mandrake 8 .
> >
> > i have two hard disks : * one 20 gb what is divided(partitioned) into two
> > : C:/ - it has windows on it (10gb)
> >   E:/ - it has linux and it's in linux file format (10gb)
> > * one 20 gb it's in fat32 and its a archive .
> >
> > I have windows xp .
> >
> > so , i want to unistall linux to get more space for windows (i have only
> > 200mb left :/) . Nothing should happen to my windows and archive drive .
> >
> > when i installed windows xp it deleted lilo , my computer boots
> > automaticly to windows . i can run linux only with my boot disk .
> >
> > i have the win 98 bootdisk if its needed .
> >
> > is there a safe way to unistall linux so that my windows and acrive drive
> > are not ruined,formated ? i also want to know how to convert the linux
> > drive to fat32 .
>
> yes, and in my opinion, Partition magic may be the best for you. you might
> have to buy the software, but you should feel safer.
> but back up everything anyway, and often if it is "mission critical data"
>
> > please help me , i really need the space .
> > thank you .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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