Re: [newbie] graphics question
On Wednesday 09 Feb 2005 1:28 pm, Omar wrote: > Hi all, >Maybe this question should not be on this list, but I didn't know > where else to put it. I have around 400 jpeg images and I want to > put 3x2 images on an A4 size document, preferrably in PDF format. Is > there a way to do this in Mandrake 10.1. I recall having this kind > of functionality in Photoshop. Any ideas suggestions?? Thanks... > Omar Not the answer you want, but makethumbs.sh generates a page of html to index your collection. It should be easily possible to fix it to produce something that can be converted to pdf correctly. This may mean editing makethumbs.sh and learning about XML/FO, but you might get lucky and only have to configure makethumbs correctly. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] upgrade 8.2 to 10.1: Error, some other host already uses address 127.0.0.1.
On Sunday 23 Jan 2005 4:26 pm, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > I upgraded a working MDK 8.2 installation to MDK 10.1 (powerpack) > > The new 10.1 gives me some error messages during the boot process > that I don't understand. One of them is: > > Error, some other host already uses address 127.0.0.1. I may be way behind the boat here, but it sounds like the entry in /etc/hosts for 127.0.0.1 does not use the same hostname as you have selected for your machine. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 12:14 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >OK! It seems like more than one of you are suggesting I > substitute something for the "a". I guess if I can see it then cp is > the better route. If it works it shows some of our instructors need > to go back to school or something. > culatr2da = see you later today See I can get cryptic also:>) Don't get too hung up on the command line. You can always open the floppy icon and the home icon on your desktop and drag the file from the floppy to your home. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Installing kbluetooth
On Saturday 15 Jan 2005 10:08 pm, Andy Yankovich wrote: > When I start 10.1 I get the message "you may replace bluez's pin > helper program with kbluepin; it is located in /user/lib/kdebluetooth > now". > > How EXACTLY do I do this? > > What did it do and what will it do after the change? It's bluetooth, the short range wireless thingy that talks to mobile phones, (and other stuff, but mainly phones.) If you don't use it you can very safely ignore the message. The pin helper is the program that asks for a six(?) digit number when pairing with a device. kbluepin will just ask for the number with a nice window. > Sorry if these questions are so basic. Maybe I do not belong in the > Linux or perhaps the Mandrakelinux operating system. What do you > think? Because I do not understand *anything* about programming, > should I not use 10.1? Please be honest about this because I hate to > bother you all with such basic questions. 1. that's not a basic question. As of 9.2, bluetooth was bleeding edge technology in Linux. (It may be more mainstream in 10.1) 1a. We really don't care how basic a question is. This is the Newbie list - many questions here are basic. We're happy to help. 2. You don't need to know anything about programming to use Linux, any more than Windows. 2a. What knowledge you need, you'll pick up over the next few weeks without noticing. The average time between someone appearing on this list as a total newbie, and answering a question themselves is about a month. 3. You need to know _less_ about computers to use Linux safely and securely than you need to use Windows safely and securely. 3a. No viruses, little or no spyware, software designed to be secure from the ground up and fantastic support. > I am using a $12.99 set of six CDs. I have ordered the "packaged" > 10.1 from MandrakeStore. When they arrive should I delete what is now > installed, and then install the MandrakeStore CDs Will that be > preferred? What does the label say on those CDs? If they are 10.1 Community Edition it may be worth upgrading. Since I am still using 9.2 I'll let others tell you how worthwhile it is. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] konqueror and info
>From time to time here people pop up and say "Wow, Konqueror understands man pages!" That's neat, and it's a bit easier than trying to read the page in a console window. It isn't the best way to print a man page; "man -t subject | lpr" is much better for that, but it is easier on the eyes. A long time ago, before Tim Berners-Lee invented HTTP, the GNU project had hyper-linked documents. They were called "info" and worked in a console window just like "man", but you navigated around them just like a web site. Many of the GNU man pages say: WARNING This man page is an extract of the documentation ... It is updated only occasionally, because the GNU project does not use nroff. For complete, current documentation, refer to the Info file... If reading a simple document under 'less' was hard, navigating a hyper-linked document is ten times worse. It was a great relief to find that telling Konqueror "info:make" does exactly what it says on the tin. It turns a nightmare into a dream. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 8.2 Instilliation crashes On Partition check
On Sunday 02 Jan 2005 1:53 pm, Michael Hahn wrote: > I choose 8.2 because I > already had the OS, and I can't really afford to pay for a new OS as > well as a new hard drive. >< Fair enough. Download 10.1, it's GPL - you don't have to pay. It would be nice if you joined Mandrake Club the next time you've got some spare cash, but you don't have to. If you don't have the bandwidth etc. to download 3-4 CDs then it is available quite often on the Linux Format magazine DVDs, CDs are available by mail from a number of shareware distributors, or ask here and someone might burn you a set for a small consideration. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Virus Program seems to be missing vital component.
On Saturday 01 Jan 2005 2:39 pm, Graham Watkins wrote: > JR wrote: > > Hi Graham, > > > > I have yet to install clam av, but I just wanted to point out that > > the viruses being detected are most likely windows viruses that > > would pass through a linux system without being able to cause any > > harm. > > > > The reason clam av detects these is because linux is often used as > > a mail server which often has windows clients. > > > > Hope you get your problem resolved, and happy new year! > > > > JR > > Wish it were that simple. I'm not running a mail server with windows > clients. This is a dual booting stand alone machine and I never use > windows for downloading mail. (In fact I use it as little as > possible.) So long as you do not _read_ mail in Windows you are still safe. If you need to do so you are probably safe so long as you don't use Outlook. I would trust Evolution (designed as a mail client) more than Mozilla (trying to be an IE/Outlook killer), but they are both probably OK. Just because there are worms in some files on your system it doesn't mean you are in imminent danger; the worm needs to be executed to do any harm, and sitting in a mailbox it isn't in an executable state. If you search for attachments with the extensions .com, .exe and .zip you can probably delete all the infected mails by hand. (From Linux, just to be sure.) > Do the names Worm.bagle.AP, Worm.Somefool.P, SCO.A mean anything > here? Names don't seem to be as standard as they are supposed to be. I think the rate of detection has overwhelmed the standardisation process. In my experience you don't get good search hits except from the vendor of your anti-virus app. > As I mentioned, klamav claims to be able to quarantine messages > containing viruses and worms but the component klammail doesn't seem > to exist on my system - ideas, anyone? No help here. I afraid. HTH, Happy New Year. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for a program to compare the contents of directories
On Tuesday 28 Dec 2004 12:29 pm, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All > > I am looking for a program to tell me whether the contents of a list > of directories is the same in two different media (e.g., hard disk > and cdrom). Any ideas? diff -qr [directory] [directory] The q makes the report just a single line: Files a/foo and b/foo differ The r compares all subdirectories. It doesn't catch differences where the time stamps are different but the contents are identical - probably OK for you. It does work OK for binary files as well as text files. - you will only ever get the single line report for binary files. If you need to compare a set of distinct directories, save this to a file and set execute permission on it: #! /bin/bash A=$1 B=$2 shift shift for i; do diff -qr $A/$i $B/$i; done The first two parameters are the roots of the directory trees, the rest are directories in those trees to compare. For example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ diffem a b c d/e d/f diff: a/c: No such file or directory diff: b/c: No such file or directory diff: a/d/e: No such file or directory diff: b/d/e: No such file or directory diff: a/d/f: No such file or directory diff: b/d/f: No such file or directory -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: The effect of 'chgrp' is not permanent?
On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 4:41 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ...Maybe a simple solution would be to add rodolfo to group 'root' in > addition to group 'rodolfo'? > I'm looking for the proper linux command to do so. Not root. Group "wheel" is a close match, but not quite what you're looking for. Not having used it myself, I don't know how close. chroot may also be worth looking at, but I think it's too restrictive. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] The effect of 'chgrp' is not pemanent?
On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 2:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi. > > I've noticed that, strangely, the effect of the command 'chgrp' > is not permanent: I did > ># chgrp rodolfo /* Since this is the newbie list, Do not do this. If it was the expert list I'd say "Are you sure you know what you're doing?" To me this is highly dangerous from the point of view of system security and stability. > and then > > # ls -l / > > ; then I rebooted the system, did '# ls -l /' again > and this time the output was changed: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] rodolfo]# ls -l / > total 52 > drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:05 bin/ > drwxr-x--x 3 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:19 boot/ > drwxr-xr-x 17 root root3800 Dec 19 15:19 dev/ > drwxr-x--x 71 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:19 etc/ > drwxr-x--x 4 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 18 18:53 home/ > drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:31 initrd/ > drwxr-x--x 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:13 lib/ > drwxr-xr-x 7 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 18 11:48 mnt/ > drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Jan 5 2004 opt/ > dr-xr-xr-x 79 root root 0 Dec 19 15:19 proc/ > drwx-- 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:08 root/ > drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 15:59 sbin/ > drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 0 Dec 19 15:19 sys/ > drwxrwx-wt 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:20 tmp/ > drwxr-x--x 12 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:07 usr/ > drwxr-x--x 17 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 15:59 var/ > /dev and /proc are mounted filesystems, created at boot time. I don't have /sys on my system, but I expect it is also. > , and even other changes occured later. > How come? That will be msec, trying to keep your system secure. > And how to make chgrp's effect not change until I want to? You could disable msec. You could even find how /dev, /proc and /sys are mounted and change that. But please don't. What are you trying to achieve? There has to be a better way. By the looks of the directory permissions you have selected a high security level. Most of mine are drwxr-xr-x. If that's your problem then it would be safer to reduce the security level or just work within it. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Output of 'ls -l ...'
On Saturday 18 Dec 2004 9:13 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> When I do ,e.g.,
>
> $ ls -l /
>
> , I get:
>
> total 52
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 18 13:44 bin/
> what about the numbers that appears in the second and in the
> fifth column? What's their meaning?
As care free said, the second is the number of links, the fifth is the
size. For normal files the number of links is 1, unless you have a hard
link ("ln" without the "-s") to that file. For directories there are
hard links created for you:
the access point of the directory: mnt in /
the .. directory within each subdirectory: .. in /mnt/crdom
the . directory in the directory itself: . in /mnt
So for directories that have no further hard links and are not active
mount points, the second field should be two more than the number of
directories it contains.
The fifth field is the file size; directories are just files and they
have a size like any other file.
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Re: [newbie] win- linux
On Saturday 18 Dec 2004 5:15 am, Stephen KÃhn wrote: > On Sat, 2004-12-18 at 16:09, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Is there any free program available to sample linux on a winxp > > >system. I thought winaxe might but it is for networked systems. > > > > This being a Mandrake list I can't believe that no one suggested > > Mandrake Move: our very own Live CD. > > http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#move > > Oh. Right oh! Forgot ALL about Mandrake. Is THAT what we run here? Oh yes... Works so well we forget all about it. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Color Prompts in bash - Pierre Fortin or anyone else
Just browsing the TWiKi, and I found that the attachment on: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/ColorPrompts has gone missing. If anyone has a copy (I assume it was posted to expert or newbie, but I've checked my archive and it isn't there) they might like to post it here, or update the attachment. The process looks fairly easy - just hit the "action" link. It looks like the page could do with a tutorial as well. I might get around to that. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] TWiki - Plea for help!
On Sunday 14 Nov 2004 10:40 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 14 Nov 2004 09:47, Richard Urwin wrote: > > Unfortunately I don't have a copy of anything I added. Fortunately > > I haven't added anything in a while and it's no great loss anyway. > > I think that it may be an idea for me to post to the list any changes > that are made, once we start recreating. I suspect that seeing the > topics may jog memories of people that just added a line or two, or a > link or two, and would otherwise forget. What do you think? Yes, very likely. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] TWiki - Plea for help!
On Sunday 14 Nov 2004 12:50 am, Fajar Priyanto wrote: > On Sunday 14 November 2004 05:19 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Message to Expert list from James Sparenberg: > > All, > > > >The Community TWiki got cracked. The person running it is busy > > trying to find a viable backup to restore what he can. However > > this may not be possible as the backup (current) is of the cracked > > version. > > Oh no? The backup is the cracked version? > This is what I experienced too with my school phpBB2. I made the > backup just a few hours after the cracking. Now, I make every backup > based on dates. When the panic dies down, if you want a hand developing a more robust backup scheme let me know. Unfortunately I don't have a copy of anything I added. Fortunately I haven't added anything in a while and it's no great loss anyway. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Do newest flat screen (non-LCD) monitors work on Mandrake?
On Saturday 13 Nov 2004 10:58 am, Wojciech PodgÃrni wrote: > Thank you for your anwers! > But my question was about *non*-LCD monitors... Do all the newest > Plug'n'Play non-LCD monitors work with Mandrake? No direct experience of them, but I see no reason the shouldn't. The important bits are the plug, and the monitor being plug&play. This monitor is plug&play, and appears to use a standard VGA plug. If your video card can produce a dot clock above 110MHz you should have no problem. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is Abba safe?
On Friday 12 Nov 2004 4:16 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Friday 12 November 2004 11:06 am, JoeHill wrote: > > My 4 yr old daughter wants me to download some Abba songs, like > > 'Dancing > > Queen' > > > and the like. Is this safe? > > > > Has anyone successfully copied some Abba to their HD without hosing > > their system? Are there special precautions I can take in advance? > > > > Thanks! > > Joe: > I don't know if Abba will damage your HD, but it will certainly > soften the little girl's brain. Think of the children, man! > -- cmg Actually ABBA music is technically highly complex. It comes out sounding mushy, but just try to play/sing it. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Linux not yet ready for primetime
On Friday 12 Nov 2004 9:50 pm, Jack wrote: > I *am* having fun with Linux (as I already stated in my original > post). And I do not expect (nor want) it to be Windows. But when an > expert gives you specific directions on how to do something, and it > has worked for him, it *should work for me* also! Most of the experts on this list are only familiar with the problems they themselves have faced; they are users just like you. If the problem you have is not the one they had, then their solution is not going to work for you. That's when we get out the big guns and ask you the contents of various obscure files, to try to sort out exactly what problem you're having. The threads can be quite long, and they don't all end in a resolution, but many do. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Do newest flat screen (non-LCD) monitors work on Mandrake?
On Friday 12 Nov 2004 11:40 pm, Wojciech PodgÃrni wrote: > Hello everyone! > I have a hardware question for you. My aunt is buying a Plug'n'Play > flat screen monitor for her Mandrake 10.0 computer and I am worried > if it would work on that system. The rest of the hardware is quite > old - GeForce 256 DDR video card, old Pentium Celeron motherboard, > slow processor (but much RAM), etc. The problem is that Mandrake > hardware database is quite incomplete and it lacks some of the newer > hardware. The question is: > Is Mandrake going to work with the newer Plug'n'Play monitors such as > SAMSUNG 17" - 793 DF ? Should I expect any problems? > Thank you in advance for any answer. > Wojciech Podgórni The monitor should identify itself to the X windows system, with a list of refresh frequencies it is happy with. So the monitor per se is probably fine. The problem I had with my LCD was that the monitor was very choosy about it's refresh frequencies at its highest (ie native) resolution, and the video card, although it could theoretically get up there, did not have enough head room to produce a frequency within the monitor's pass-band. So long as the maximum dot clock of the graphics board is well above the dot rate of the monitor you should have no problem, but by well above I mean something like ten times or more. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Help with a makefile
On Tuesday 09 Nov 2004 5:31 pm, RafaÅ Kamraj wrote: > Manaxus wrote: > > $(CC) âI$(INCLUDE) $(CFLAGS) âc main.c > %.o : %.c > $(CC) -c $(CFLAGS) $(INCLUDE) $< -o $@ That's why you're getting the bad separator error; it's looking for the colon (:). The format of a makefile is basically a list of these: target: dependencies commands more commands The leading whitespace before the commands is important, otherwise make doesn't know where one set of commands ends and the next set begins. The simplest makefile looks like this: program: program.c program.h gcc -o program program.c The first line there promises make that the following commands will take the files "program.c" and "program.h" and will produce the file "program". It also promises that only "program.c" and "program.h" are necessary to build "program", so make knows that it only has to execute those commands if either "program.c" or "program.h" has changed. All the rest is syntactic sugar to either allow compilation on multiple platforms or reduce the amount of typing you have to do. A trick many makefiles use is a target that never exists, so the commands it contains are always run. You will often find things like: clean: rm *.o which deletes all object files if you type "make clean". The standard "make install" is implemented the same way. When you invoke make with no arguments then it builds the first target in the file. That is the purpose of the otherwise pointless line: > > all: myapp The file "all" does not exist, so make tries to build it. No commands are given, but make knows that it has to have the file "myapp" first. So the effect is just to build "myapp". It avoids having to place the default target first in the file, which you may not want to do for reasons of your own. The "myapp" should match another target further down, as in: all: myapp . . . myapp: myapp.c myapp.h gcc -o myapp myapp.c . . . -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Fact or Fiction
On Friday 22 Oct 2004 7:27 am, Russell W. Behne wrote: > In that case, Mikkel, it's not a virus, what you're describing is a > trojan horse program. Agreed. But 99% of mal-ware these days are not real viruses either. They are called viruses by the unknowing because they don't know the difference, and by the knowing as a shorthand. IMHO, the Linux defence that a virus can only infect a single user's account is anachronistic. A trojan only needs user privileges to become a spam proxy. Consider a Linux user who uses P2P or bittorrent applications. Their firewall will have open ports that user-level programs can listen on. A Trojan could install itself on one of those ports to receive commands and use a self-contained mailing program to send spam. While installed in user-space it would allow hacker access to attempt vulnerability probing, but even without that it is still useful to the black-hats. We cannot become complacent. Every element of security is important. The TheRegister link posted by Derek Jennings is very interesting and useful. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] GTK2 PDF reader
On Tuesday 12 Oct 2004 3:26 am, JoeHill wrote: > On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:08:06 -0400 > > Miark disseminated the following: > > > Okay, first off, if that butt ugly PDF reader 'acroread' is what > > > Adobe has to > > > offer the Linux community, they can kiss my ass. > > > > It's not pretty, but it renders PDFs more pretty and it's a hell of > > a lot more capable than any PDF viewer I've used in Linux. What > > don't you like about it? > > Well, like I said, it's *really* ugly. And it does not do as good a > job at rendering as gpdf: > > http://www.freeyourmachine.org/acroread.png > > The UI *sucks*, it doesn't even let me use my scrollwheel! > > gpdf may be lacking in some functionality, but for what it's made > for, reading PDF's, it does it very well and it's nice to look at :-) I use xpdf, but it's ugly too. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A question to the talented
On Thursday 07 Oct 2004 5:40 am, Alan wrote: > Thanks. > > What ris does is allow you to boot from a network card and install > windows 2000 and windows XP. The nice things is it an unattended > installation and it installs quicker than from a cd. Two ways: Use the network boot floppy, which is on the distribution disks. Or investigate bootp and tftp - boot as a thin client. The first is probably the way you want to go. IIUC, it expects to have an FTP server out there with the distribution on, so you'd have to set that up, but I've not done either myself. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] old_mmap & libfontconfig.so.1
On Thursday 30 Sep 2004 11:26 am, SnapafunFrank wrote:
> Running Mandrake10 - mostly updated, Using KDE3.2.3 and some third
> party apps. [ Editpadlite etc.]
>
> I am trying to understand why it takes nearly a whole minute to open
> any of my apps, both kde and third party - such as OOo, and one of
> the things I've come across [ thanks Shawn ] is strace.
>
> Two things get to be "called" heaps of times: the first is the 'read'
> calls and there I see close to a 1000 calls for :
>
> 0.000588 old_mmap(0x407ea000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
> MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x1a000) = 0x407ea000
>
> Anyone know what this is The online search produces heaps
> of text files listing exactly what I see in my 'strace' - but
> otherwise nothing very helpful to date.
mmap is the function that puts a file into RAM. It's used to load
programs or to get fast access to files. It's my impression that Linux
uses it a lot at the deeper levels. It's not got PROT_EXEC, so it's not
(I think) a program. MAP_PRIVATE implies it's not going to be written
to. A font would answer this description, but a lot of other stuff
would too.
> The other is for the 'open' call, eg:
>
> 0.000680 open("/usr/X11R6/lib/tls/libfontconfig.so.1", O_RDONLY)
> = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
>
> and this seems to go through a lot of files 'looking' and again, for
> heaps of times.
I don't know how the shared library resolution code works; I would
expect a lot of these for stuff that follows a path, such as $PATH and
$LDPATH, but it's my understanding that shared libraries are looked up
in a database. Have you tried running ldconfig? In fact "ldconfig -v"
may give you useful information.
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Re: [newbie] iso
On Wednesday 29 Sep 2004 1:12 am, Melvin M wrote: > Can anyone help me with an iso file?..i downloaded mandrake 10.1 > and got all three disks but i dont know how to open them or > instal Is there a difference in iso files or am i doing > something > wrong?..Hhhhep...Melv >in Nobody's mentioned yet that you don't burn iso's like you may normally be doing. Ignore the window where you pull in all the files. Usually there's a file selector on the burn pane where you put the name of the file. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...
On Sunday 26 Sep 2004 1:52 am, Erylon Hines wrote: > On Saturday 25 September 2004 03:37 pm, Richard Urwin wrote: > | I think "Which" was told off and had to publish a retraction not so > | long ago for publicly giving that bit of advice. > | > | Some things to bear in mind: > | 1. If there's an earth fault the live wire is connected to you. > | 2. The switch is in the live wire. If, like I did, you have an > | extension cable with the live and neutral swapped, then the live > | parts are still live. It may still be a problem with a properly > | wired connection if your neutral is at a different potential to > | your earth. OK, not such a problem with a PC because the PSU is > | enclosed. > > This in itself is a code violation. Why would anyone swap the hot > and neutral? In my case it was an honest mistake when building an extension cable, and I told my father off for it. > Anyone that would do this shouldn't be doing anything electrical at > all (no offense meant, but everyone should test their equipment > before they use it--your life depends on it). There's a lot of people who's last words were "what damn fool did that?" > And remember, Never--Ever--switch a neutral. Unless, of course, you also switch the live. > The neutral and ground go to the very same place. Usually yes. In the UK it's possible that they don't. Earth may go to an earth spike closer to you than the one the neutral goes to. That's only likely in a rural location or a big site. > | 3. Anti-static straps have 1MegOhm resistors in them. Without such > | they are considered serious health and safety violations. Since > | every piece of anti-static equipment has that, the actual > | resistance to earth of professional gear is usually several meg > | ohms. > > For the anti-static devices, power supplies, etc.--yes. Electrical > codes (at least in the U.S.) require that the case be bonded directly > to ground. That doesn't help if there is a wiring fault, either accidental or man-made. The case is bonded directly to (what should be) earth; the repair-man should not be. A few megohms keeps him safe from bad wiring or grabbing the wrong wire, but conducts static away safely. > In such a case, an external jumper from a known good ground would > need to be applied to the metal frame of the case when the unit is > unplugged. Otherwise, the box is floating with potential for static > discharge, unless the repairman is floating also. This probably > won't be the way it is outside of the lab. I'd say it was only likely outside the lab. I do my work on the dining-room table with the PC on a blanket and me with rubber-soled shoes and carpet. Great way to pick up static, but no earth connection except for the cable. The best way would be a mains plug with only the earth wired, leading to a junction box. Every wire out of the junction box has its own megohm resistor at both ends. One goes to the case, another to the man. It would cost pennies to build. This is a public forum; you and I know what we're doing, and when we can bend the rules safely enough. Most of the time with PC work a direct wire is safe enough, but I'd be willing to bet that you wouldn't use a direct wire if you were replacing the PSU fan for instance. Safe enough is not safe. With a world full of people, million to one chances come up nine times out of ten. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Odd Internet problem...
On Saturday 25 Sep 2004 4:55 pm, Erylon Hines wrote: > On Saturday 25 September 2004 07:33 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > | But for all the *newbies* here reading this, statically wounded > | circuits can show weird symptoms months after installation. > | Sometimes weird stuff like what Ron is seeing. That includes > | (especially) motherboards. It's best to have a grounded static > | wrist band on when you are inside your computer and before you > | remove the static packaging from any new component. (static > | packaging isn't there because it's pretty.) If you always do this, > | you can be sure that you've kept your equipment in mint condition. > | > | LX > > A note on grounding. Most times when I see instructions for this it > says something like, "Unplug your computer". > > DO NOT UNPLUG YOUR COMPUTER. If you do, you will remove the machine > from the system ground and your box will be "floating". Any time > equipment is floating, there is a chance that it's potential will be > different from ground potential. Turn it off, but leave it plugged > in and the case will be bonded. If you are not on a workbench with a > known good bond to ground, attach yourself to the metal part of the > case, and you are good to go. I think "Which" was told off and had to publish a retraction not so long ago for publicly giving that bit of advice. Some things to bear in mind: 1. If there's an earth fault the live wire is connected to you. 2. The switch is in the live wire. If, like I did, you have an extension cable with the live and neutral swapped, then the live parts are still live. It may still be a problem with a properly wired connection if your neutral is at a different potential to your earth. OK, not such a problem with a PC because the PSU is enclosed. 3. Anti-static straps have 1MegOhm resistors in them. Without such they are considered serious health and safety violations. Since every piece of anti-static equipment has that, the actual resistance to earth of professional gear is usually several meg ohms. Personally, If I have my wrist strap with me I leave the box plugged in and use it. If I don't then I still leave it plugged in, but just touch the case frequently to keep myself at the same potential. I think very long and hard before I decide to connect myself to the case with a piece of wire. Another word of warning: some PSUs do not have an off switch. The button on the front of an ATX case leaves power to some parts of the motherboard. If there isn't a rocker switch on the PSU, you can not leave it plugged in without having an external switch somewhere. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What the hell is promiscuous and how do I turn it off?
On Thursday 16 Sep 2004 12:01 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: > From the web: > 1) In a network, promiscuous mode allows a network device to > intercept and read each network packet that arrives in its entirety. > This mode of operation is sometimes given to a network snoop server > that captures and saves all packets for analysis (for example, for > monitoring network usage). Normally a NIC will only receive packets that are addressed to itself. By putting the NIC in promiscuous mode it will receive all packets that it sees, no matter how they are addressed. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Tuesday 14 Sep 2004 4:34 am, JoeHill wrote: > On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:05:41 -0700 > > aron Smith disseminated the following: > > > Joe: > > > Kinda makes you want to go out and buy a copy of Suse, doesn't > > > it? Resist the urge. > > > > Tried SUSE didn't work near as good as mandrake > > Shite, it doesn't even come with DeCSS, so you can't play/rip DVD's. > What a bunch of wankers. If I *was* going to switch it would > definitely be to Debian or to a Debian-based distro like Libranet or > Xandros, those that, like Mandrake, aim at pleasing the user, not > some draconian and corrupt legislators who came up with the DMCA. Probably something to do with where your head office is based. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HHGTTG - Tertiary Phase
On Monday 13 Sep 2004 1:05 pm, michael higgins wrote: > mplayer -playlist > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/media/hitchhikers_trail.ram > > IE, mplayer works fine with it. Thanks for that. I notice that Douglas Adams is on that trailer; "...this is my kill Arthur Dent body..." -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Software
On Monday 13 Sep 2004 3:33 pm, BJ Tracy wrote: > Hello All, > > When looking at software to install/download, what is meant by the > term "web based" ? Is it for web pages only? Does it require a > server or will it work on a LAN? > This is probably way elementary to a lot of you, sorry about that. I think the absolutely correct definition is that it is accessed through a web browser. In the great majority of cases that means it is web-server based, but it could be java/javascript/VB. See http://www.soronlin.org.uk/geekquiz.html as an example of such. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Format NTFS?
On Monday 13 Sep 2004 12:24 am, Eric Scott wrote: > It was my problem; I forgot to hit the "format" button in MDK control > center, and therefore Windows couldn't recognize the unformatted FAT > partitions that I had defined. Oops :-P It's alright though, 'cause > the Windows Setup I was trying to use killed the disk somehow... > problems over. When there's no disk to format you don't have much of > a problem formatting. :-P Google for "The Ultimate Boot CD". It's got three Free DOS implementations, three tiny Linux distros. Memory testers, CPU Burners, and more to the point, a complete set of manufacturers hard-drive diagnostic and initialisation tools. (And quite a bit more I haven't explored yet.) It's rather unlikely that the software killed the drive, I think you'll find that it is recoverable. I can well recommend this CD; I've just gone through the diagnostic/repair process from hell on a friend's PC, and this thing was worth its weight in gold. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How does one print man pages.
On Sunday 12 Sep 2004 11:53 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > On Saturday 11 September 2004 20:46, SnapafunFrank wrote: > > Open konqueror and type into the address field: > > $man:/sensors > > Now you can print directly from konqueror. > > > > SnapafunFrank > > Thanks but I beleive this suggestion was made long ago. And it's still inferior to "man -t sensors|lpr" (because that puts in the correct headers and footers) -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cons -make replacement.
On Sunday 12 Sep 2004 9:05 am, Ayoub890 wrote: > Hi, > Has anybody tried this make replacement? > > http://directory.fsf.org/devel/cons.html No, but that short description doesn't tempt me too much. Automatic dependency checking depends on parsing the source code. What happens if I want a source file in a format it doesn't understand? I'd rather have a separate tool that parsed the code and updated the makefile. Using MD5 checksums instead of file date seems to lose information; ie it's different but is it newer or older? That may make no difference of course, and there is a genuine problem with using the date across a network. If you're looking into this sort of thing, you may want to check out "ant". -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] tar.gz files
On Sunday 12 Sep 2004 12:54 am, JoeHill wrote: > On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 01:41:34 +0200 > > Thereidos disseminated the following: > > > Wherever you downloaded the file to, yes. So, say you downloaded > > > Planner to /home/john/downloads, you would 'cd' to that dir, then > > > do as advised above. *Then* 'cd planner-0.12.1', ./configure > > > --prefix=/usr, make, su to root, and make install. > > > > I'd rather suggest : #su -c "make install" (without # but with all > > quotes) rather than su'ing to root My standard line is now: sudo checkinstall make install sudo is identical in effect to su -c, but requires your user password rather than root, and if you do it again within five minutes it doesn't ask for the password again. checkinstall means that you can uninstall the package with the urpmi suite. > > cause it is quite possible to > > simply forget that you're running as root and do something you > > could regret. It happened to me couple of times before... > > Good recommendation, and yes, I've, uh, had some problems with that > before too. One reason that my root terminal sessions have red backgrounds. But, of course, not su'd sessions. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Nvu rpms
On Thursday 09 Sep 2004 5:34 pm, Todd Slater wrote: > On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 07:47:17AM -0700, julie wrote: > > Has anyone tried using the WYSIWYG html editor Nvu? There is now an > > rpm for Mandrake 10 available and, before installing the program I > > was wondering if anyone had experienced any glitches. > > > > Julie > > I've use it on Windows; it's basically Netscape/Mozilla composer, so > if you're familiar with either of those, you'll know how to use it. I > believe it has some cool stuff for publishing and css that composer > didn't have, though. I'm looking for an XML/HTML editor which will accept an XML file but also WYSIWYG any DHTML in it: some HTML some more HTML Preferably it would accept a DTD and/or template and lead the user through creating a compliant document. Example enclosed, the final version of which is at http://www.soronlin.org.uk/ -- Richard Urwin Welcome to Soronlin. On the left you will see a set of navigation buttons for pages in this site. On the right you will see notes and links to pages outside this site. Highlights include: A geek quiz (designed to be tough.) Information about the SCO Group litigation This site is hosted at http://nildram.co.uk/";>Nildram, and does not contain any server-side scripting. Client-side scripting is limited to Javascript, and is used sparingly. There are no scripts, tables or frames on this page. All layout and active content is handled by CSS. This webpage is built using CSS. If you do not see a grey bar down both side of the page it is time to upgrade your browser now. However the contents of these bars will appear at the bottom of the page. Any faults using CSS-capable open source browsers should be reported to webmaster at the site address. Any faults using IE are your problem. The name is JRR Tolkien's Quenya Elven: Soron Eagle; the Sindarin form is Thoron, as in Thorondor, King of the Eagles Lin Song; as in Lindor and Ainulindalà Actually eagle song is a harsh barking noise, but the name still sounds good. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Can't log in
On Saturday 04 Sep 2004 5:47 pm, Aron wrote: > How do I recover my password (user) I have the root password? Unless you want to run a cracker program, you don't. It's a one-way encryption. Far easier to change it. See "man passwd" On second thoughts, that is far too obscure. (Who writes those manual pages?) Type passwd into a root console. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Completely out of space - major problem!
On Saturday 04 Sep 2004 2:56 pm, Terence Golightly wrote: > On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 11:28, Derek Jennings wrote: > > Install 'fsv' from a contrib mirror and you will be able to > > visualise where all your drive space is being consumed. > > > > (Fsv is like the scene in Jurassic Park where the little girl says > > "This is Unix. I can use this!" and then flies through a 3D > > visualisation of a file system.) > > > > derek > > Derek, > > That is way cool!. Apparently (too bad) it only allows you to > 'visualize' your file system, you can't actually do any operations on > the file(s)/system though. The application in Jurassic park does exist out there somewhere, can't remember what it's called now, and it doesn't let you do anything either. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband
On Saturday 04 Sep 2004 4:35 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > Of course this equipement isn't only a router/modem but also a 4 port > 10/100 LAN switch. I could just about cope with a 4port put this > leaves me with no room for expansion. > > I already have a DES1008D 8 port D-link . Is it then possible to just > cross link the two to provide additional ports ? Yes. Not a problem. These days switches are getting so clever you don't even need a cross-over cable. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband
On Thursday 02 Sep 2004 10:10 pm, PM wrote: > On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 00:05, Derek Jennings wrote: > > Margot > > I can confirm the Alcatel Speedtouch does work with Mandrake. > > I do not have one myself, but I have set one up for a friend. > > > > It IS more complicated to get a USB Speedtouch working than a DSL > > router, but it is certainly possible to get it to work. > > > > You will need the speedtouch_mgmt package installed which contains > > the Alcatel binary driver. It is not on the download edition, but > > is available on the Powerpack CDs, or from MandrakeClub. Contact > > me if you have trouble finding it. > > > > I could not get my friends working with the 2.6 kernel, but the 2.4 > > kernel worked fine. > > Mandrake 10.0 has a wizard to set up the speedtouch. Information > > you will need is :- > > > > VPI/VCI number - In the UK this is VPI=0 VCI=38 > > Framing VC/MUX > > Protocol PPPoA > > Username - supplied by your ISP > > Password - supplied by ISP > > > > I do not know how Linux friendly your ISP is, but I have just put > > DSL in for my sister using Pipex, and they are not Linux hostile > > like some other ISPs. (Good prices too) > > > > derek > > Just one point - depending upon provider, protocol might be PPPoE. IIRC, here in the UK, ADSL is PPoA and cable is PPoE. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband
On Thursday 02 Sep 2004 3:07 pm, Aron Smith wrote: > On Thursday 02 September 2004 05:54 am, John Richard Smith wrote: > > Aron Smith wrote: > > >MCC will configure your card real nice > > > > > > > > > > When you say configured, that is as a card recognised by the systen > > and a device to be used by the system, you don't mean as part of > > the network ? > > Right AFAIK the addreses are trnslated your card has address > xxx.xxx.xxx MCC translates that as yyy.yyy.yyy > OTH what do I know i'm new at this :-) There are two networks: Your local LAN The ISPs network The router's job is to sit on both networks and to pass traffic betwen them as required. The LAN will probably have the address 192.168.1.0, and machines on that LAN will replace that zero with some number 1-254. So in all likelyhood your router will be 192.168.1.1, and your computer will be 192.168.1.2 The ISPs network will give your router an address, let's say 10.1.1.45 When your computer wants to send a packet to a machine that is not on the 192.168.1.0 network it sends it to the address that it has been told is the "default gateway". That would be 192.168.1.1 in this case. You could (I do) set all these numbers up by editing /etc/hosts and using "route" to add the router as the default gateway. But there is an easier way. Just configure the router to get it's external address by DHCP, and act as a DHCP server to the LAN. IIUC, that's the usual factory settings. Then configure your computer to be a DHCP client. IIUC, that's easy using MCC. Now all those numbers are handled for you and you can ignore them. The system just works. Why do I do things differently? 1. I have a static IP address, so the external address is not going to change. 2. I have a network printer, and sometimes other computers on the LAN. It's useful to know their addresses are not going to change. It is possible to set that up with DHCP, but it's just as easy to not bother with it and do it by hand. --- Aron, On an ethernet network every ethernet card has an address that looks like 34:54:65:76:98:ba. That's the "ethernet address". You should ignore it unless you are setting up static addresses in the DHCP server, (see 2 above.) It has absolutely no effect on the TCP/IP networking, (that you need to know about.) MCC in no way translates it. I can go into more detail if you want, but this probably isn't the right thread. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband
On Thursday 02 Sep 2004 9:33 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: >... Paul and Bryan are givin you the best advice. Which is why > I've stayed out of this till now. https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ I try not to do this, but "me too". Get an ethernet ADSL router that is firewall configured out of the box, (unless you understand iptables/ipchains.) Apart from putting the ethernet card in the box there is nothing to it, and that is a five minute job, including the hunt for the screwdriver. (Do you have a LUG where you live, I'm sure one of them would be happy to do it for you.) Setting up ethernet is simple, lots of good advice to be had here on the list. OTOH, USB is a can of worms. Setting up ADSL does need some reading to get all the settings right, but with ethernet you have easy + the slightly tricky ADSL stuff. With USB you have tricky/difficult + the slightly tricky ADSL stuff. > The only thing I'd add is, (as root) 'urpmi rp-pppoe' and run > 'tkpppoe' to answer about a half dozen questions. Provider, > userID, password, DNS from server?, stuff like that. Your adsl > connection can then be started with 'adsl-start', and terminated > with 'adsl-stop'. It's easier to enable aDSL service this way, > than under Windoze. That's using a modem, right Tom? I don't need any of that adsl-start stuff. The user-id etc. stuff would be handy though. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband
On Wednesday 01 Sep 2004 11:55 pm, flesh.99 wrote: > On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:40:17 -0400, Bryan Phinney > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote: > > > They don't supply a modem. Can anyone recommend one which will > > > definitely work with Mandrake 10 (and with Win 98SE, as I'm now > > > dual booting)? Preferably an external one, as I'm not confident > > > with screwdrivers! Or, are there any I should definitely avoid? > > > > Margot, you really should be asking them for a list of > > recommendations. ADSL is not totally universal as far as equipment > > goes, so the kind of modem that you need is going to be determined > > by the hardware at the DSLAM and phone company, not based on the > > operating system you run. According to their web page, they > > support the Speedtouch 330 USB DSL modem as well as the Netgear > > DM602 router/modem. > > > > Personally, I would go for the Netgear if I were you, it will hook > > up to your ethernet card and should be as close to plug and play as > > you get. The USB option is more likely to result in possible > > compatibility problems. > > It appears that the USB is fine as well: > http://www.4p8.com/eric.brasseur/fc2_speedtouch_usb.html > http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ > > There are some issues, but the howto's should get them through it. > There is a lot of support for it out there. It won't be as easy as > the NetGear but it's all about choice. The other nice thing about ethernet routers is that you can have a firewall up that allows no evil traffic to even get as far as your machine. Try the reviews on http://www.adslguide.org.uk/ http://www.adslguide.org.uk/reviews/ -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question
On Saturday 28 Aug 2004 9:20 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Saturday 28 August 2004 02:41 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Saturday 28 August 2004 13:23:01, Greg Meyer wrote: > > > I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a > > > while. > > > > > > I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build just for > > > the learning experience, and something has just dawned on me. > > > If a Linux system needs to be built from a host system, how > > > did the first linux system get built? > > > > > > In other words, how can I create something that needs itself > > > to be created? > > > > > > -- > > > /g > > > > On an i386 running minix as far as I remember. I'd have to dig > > for links to the history but for some reason that answer is > > stuck in my feable and fallible old brain. > > > > C. > > That's my recollection too Charlie. IIRC, Linus as much as > said so, and asked the minix author if it was Ok for him to > modify and distribute as OSS. Fortunately the answer was yes. Careful, that's SCO territory. There is no Minix code in Linux and never was, so Linux needed no such permission, any more than you needed Linus' permission to write your email. It was, however, done that way. Read "Just For Fun" by Torvalds and Diamond for more information. Some time ago I did the first step of this process. I built a 32000 computer from scratch and hand assembled a simple operating system for it. (It didn't do much, just displayed a banner and had a couple of very simple commands.) That's as far as it went at the time. To go much further without driving myself crazy would have required an assembler to be written, probably on my BBC Micro in BASIC. The output from the assembler would be written to ROM, and after a fair amount of work there would be a BIOS available that will accept commands from a serial port and read and write disk sectors. Then things step up a gear. Instead of programming a ROM, the stuff you write gets sent to the BIOS and written to a disk, so the first thing you then write is a file system, then a shell, then an editor and finally an assembler. Now you can discard the other computer and use the simple operating system that you have to extend itself. It is possible to do all that work by hand, but it ties your brain in knots, and it hasn't been done that way since the fifties. Linus had it a bit easier, since he was working on a singe machine, he had the BIOS and the C compiler already, and the shell was available. But he had to implement a fair proportion of the POSIX system calls before they would run under his new OS. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Screenshots
On Saturday 21 Aug 2004 11:51 am, Vincent Voois wrote: [snip] > The only windowmanager i use in there is called "screen" and i have > no need of more :P (No mouse, just keyboard only) But on my screen I can get 2.5 80 column terminals side-by-side, and they have a lot more than 25 rows. I can match the six virtual terminals with almost no overlap, and without switching desktops. Logging in takes longer, but only a few seconds (XFCE4), and I only have to do it once. Logging out is easy, and I only have to do that once as well. Why use the screen? You can get linux to use a dumb terminal as the console and hide the computer away somewhere. Better, if you get an 8-way serial i/f, you can have a terminal in every room. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Screenshots
On Saturday 21 Aug 2004 7:29 am, Stephen KÃhn wrote: [snip] > I have, however, been able to check out a few folks in the past that > have never used a Mac or a Windows based machine; and in meeting > their simple needs (email, websurfing, word processing) I have been > able to give them a linux desktop right from the get-go; to them, > anything else is strange and unusual and unfriendly... Out of interest, which WM do you use for them? Do you find that learning any WM seems to be as easy as any other - and the first one learned is always preferred, or are there Linux WMs that seem to be easier to learn than MS Windows? -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] (OT) The Bat
On Thursday 12 Aug 2004 7:40 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: > Morning all > > Can anyone tell me what this number is? > > The Bat! (v2.00.6) CD5BF9353B3B7091 > The Bat! (v2.04.7) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 > > I am corresponding with two people who don't know each other and the > same number is in both of their headers. The Bat! is an email app for Windows, unfortunately not for *nix, because by all accounts it's excellent. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS Wants The Skin Off Our Backs!!
On Thursday 15 Jul 2004 8:03 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: > On July 15, 2004 12:51, Graham Watkins wrote: > > Literally > > > > <http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/news/0,12597,1254911,00.html> > > At least they haven't (yet) started trying to use our bodies to > generate power ;^). When they're granted a patent on that, I'll start > getting nervous. "The patent says the body could generate the power needed to run its various attached devices in a similar way to self-winding watches." Also this: "Unlike radio signal networks such as Bluetooth, common on laptops, there should be no interference from other sources, and it should be more secure because nobody can eavesdrop." Nonesense. You shake hands with someone and find he's hacked your money-holder, emptied your bank account and maxed out your credit cards; downloaded your ID card and stolen your identity; made your video phone transmit nonestop so your amorous encounters appear on porn sites; downloaded a virus that turns your body into something that does the same thing to anybody else you touch. Try to take the things off and you'll find that all those doors that open automatically by pushing them (bank, office, home) don't work any more, because they aren't reading a password from your cyber-ware. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Monitoring quantity of internet usage
On Saturday 17 Jul 2004 10:44 am, Margot wrote: > I'm considering upgrading to a broadband service sometime later in > the year. > > Many of the packages available seem to be limited by *size* - eg > Wanadoo has a package for 17.99 a month with a limit of 2GB per > month and a package of 15GB per month for 27.99. Not all of them do. OTOH, the cheap ones probably do moreso. I strongly suggest you check out ADSLGuide: http://adslguide.org/ They have a very good ISP comparison feature. > Before deciding > which package to go for, I need to know how much I'm using now - and > then add a bit for safety! I don't really want to download or upload > much more than I do already, but I just want to do it faster! An always on, always fast connection has ways of subverting your intent :-) > > Presumably somewhere in Mandrake (10CE currently) there's some sort > of log which will tell me how much I upload/download daily, so I can > check it over the course of a couple of months. > What am I looking for, and where am I likely to find it? For a quick and dirty solution you could just use "ifconfig" (as root). Since I don't know how your network is built, I can't say if the stats it gives are the ones you want. You could check out ntop. That does what you want, and a hell of a lot more. You might find installing and using it a challenge; there's no RPM that I could find, the source is only available in CVS, there are several dependencies and no real tutorial. Having said that I had no real trouble getting it up and running. http://www.ntop.org/ntop.html -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] backed up files
On Saturday 10 Jul 2004 7:50 pm, mike wrote: > Justin Grote wrote: > > On 7/10/2004 at 11:33 AM, mike ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > m> Hello, > > m> something I was wondering about, when I create a file and modify > > it m> a backup is made automatically. I have seen it before but > > never m> wondered to much figureing it helps keep me from screwing > > up a lot m> of things. > > > > m> What is doing the backups? Just curious. > > > > m> Mike > > > > Do you modify it with emacs or nano(pico)? if so, they > > automatically make backups. There's a command line switch to > > disable this behavior if you want it to. > > Hi Justin, > > No on nano but I do use vi in console and kwrite in kde. > Both make a back up after I modify the file. > > I'll take a look for switchs in both and see what I can find. It's the editor. Standard methodology is: save the new file under a temporary name rename the old file to the backup name rename the new file to the correct name That does break hard links, so usually there are also preferences to make them do the backup by copying the file. Some big OSs do the backups themselves, but we're talking mainframes and minis. VMS, George... Try googling "File Generation Number". One of the best error messages of all time. MaxiMOP was an operating system that ran on top of George on ICL1900 mainframes. (If you'd ever used George, you'd know why.) As an OS, MaxiMOP needed to keep a large number of files open, but George limited it to something low. To get round this MaxiMOP renamed files it had "open" to "MAXIFILE", with different file generation numbers. Of course that only made it harder, but still possible, for someone in the George world to open the file and make it unavailable to MaxiMOP. MaxiMOP would then tell its user that the "File Has Mysteriously Disappeared." -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] The Most Popular Programming Language in Linux
On Thursday 08 Jul 2004 3:16 am, Justin Grote wrote: > RU> That's true if you're deciding between C, Java and Ada, but many > RU> languages are very different. > > I'm sorry if I implied that. I meant in general. You could have > written a connection graph from a network capture in C, and you could > have written an expect-style script in Bash or C, it doesn't mean > it'd be EASY or best-suited. > > Once again, right tool for right job. BTW, I am totally agreeing with > you. :) And likewise a C vs. Java argument is largely religious, and there are other sets of languages that are similarly close to each other. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Video mode not supported
On Tuesday 06 Jul 2004 1:03 pm, Thomas Ãnskog wrote: > Hello! > > I'm having difficulties with my Mandrakelinux 10.0. I have a Intel(R) > 82865G Graphics Controller video card, but it seems to be unsupported > by Mandrakelinux. When I start linux, the screen turns black except > for a small box with the message "Video mode not supported". Is my > video card really unsupported or has something gone wrong during the > installation? I would be most grateful for any help or information. That message is generated by your monitor when it gets a signal out of its supported range. It may be that the card cannot produce a signal within the pass band of your monitor, even though it theoretically can. At the top end of the frequencies there are large gaps between possible frequencies. Suspect this especially if you have an old card and an LCD monitor (they seem to have a tighter spec.) You can use the keypad + and - keys in combination with Ctrl-Alt to change resolution, so hitting Ctrl-Alt-keypad(-) may get you a lower resolution that your monitor can display. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] The Most Popular Programming Language in Linux
On Sunday 04 Jul 2004 10:39 pm, Justin Grote wrote: > JW> It's the best tool for the best job. In many cases the best > combination of JW> tools, in fact. > Picking a programming language is like picking a religion. There may > be some merits for one over the other in certain areas, but they are > all trying in general to accomplish the same thing. That's true if you're deciding between C, Java and Ada, but many languages are very different. My last three projects were programmed in C, Bash and Expect. For each of them, choosing either of the other languages would have been disasterous. C: a compiler Bash: creating a connection graph from a network capture. (Taking one ASCII stream and generating another.) Expect: automating the control of a microcontroller programmer (serial port protocol). -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Programming Technique
On Saturday 15 May 2004 8:46 pm, EE wrote: > On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 21:33, Richard Urwin wrote: > > On Wednesday 07 Jul 2004 8:41 am, EE wrote: > > > One of things that I have been looking for some time is general > > > programming tutorial-Coding techniques i.e how to arrange code, > > > naming convention, code segmenting, etc. > > > > > > Until now I did not succeed. Now, after I switched to Linux, I > > > thought may be the Linux gurus might help me finding such > > > tutorial or book? Anybody? > > > > Dead Tree: > > > > Writing Solid Code by Steve Maguire, Microsoft Press. > > The Art of Unix Programming by Eric Raymond, Addison Wesley. > > The Elements of Programming Style by Kernighan and Plauger, > > McGraw-Hill. > > > > The Raymond book is available on his website: > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/ > > > > > > Online: > > > > http://cplus.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww > >.cs.umd.edu%2Fusers%2Fcml%2Fcstyle > > > > http://cplus.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww > >.lysator.liu.se%2Fc%2Fpikestyle.html > > > > http://jyogee.tripod.com/books/recommended_c_style_and_coding_stand > >ards.htm > > Wow, excellent online tutorials. Thank you Richard. By the way, it is > all about C programming but I guess I can use the style with any > other language. Right? If it fits, yes. By the way, the trick was to know that you were looking for C Coding (or Style) Standards, not C tutorials. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Programming Technique
On Wednesday 07 Jul 2004 8:41 am, EE wrote: > One of things that I have been looking for some time is general > programming tutorial-Coding techniques i.e how to arrange code, > naming convention, code segmenting, etc. > > Until now I did not succeed. Now, after I switched to Linux, I > thought may be the Linux gurus might help me finding such tutorial or > book? Anybody? Dead Tree: Writing Solid Code by Steve Maguire, Microsoft Press. The Art of Unix Programming by Eric Raymond, Addison Wesley. The Elements of Programming Style by Kernighan and Plauger, McGraw-Hill. The Raymond book is available on his website: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/ Online: http://cplus.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cs.umd.edu%2Fusers%2Fcml%2Fcstyle http://cplus.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lysator.liu.se%2Fc%2Fpikestyle.html http://jyogee.tripod.com/books/recommended_c_style_and_coding_standards.htm -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Floppy Problems
On Tuesday 06 Jul 2004 3:02 am, mike wrote: > What does mtab say "cat /etc/mtab" here is mine below. > > none /mnt/floppy supermount rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--, > umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 > > Also see what "ls -al /mnt/floppy" here is mine below. > > drwxrwxrwx 0 root root 0 Jul 5 18:30 floppy/ The output of "ls -l/dev/fd*" would be useful too. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?
On Monday 28 Jun 2004 6:06 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > Cant answer that. I requested info about partitions and processed > those into what I provided. No reason other than I didnt know enough > to do it diffenently. The only reason for having a backup partition > was because that was what was left over and I expected that to be > cleared after transfer to cd-rw. It worked the first time and hasnt > since. Now its too big for a single cd and I cant figure out how to > get it on the cd without splitting some files and randomly placing > the others, it would be a nightmare to restore when it exceeded 24gb. http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=222 Or if that splits badly: http://tinyurl.com/2ph56 -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] automatic batch editing of files
On Thursday 17 Jun 2004 4:46 pm, David E. Fox wrote: >> It reminds me of assembly courses I took in the 80s where the > instructor was quick to point out that a MOV instruction didn't go > out and physically move the bits from point A to point B, but did a > copy. The PDP-8 had no MOV instruction, but did have: DCA - Dump And Clear Accumulator TCA - Two's Complement Add Storing the contents of the accumulator cleared it, and to load it you added something to it. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly large whinge
On Thursday 17 Jun 2004 1:44 am, JoeHill wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 22:49:44 +0100 > Strange it was, yes, but when I rebooted after removing the live CD, > the first thing I noticed was that my bash prompt had changed from > [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and simply rebooting did nothing. I > went on their IRC channel and the peeps on there seemed to be > familiar with the 'problem', and immediately gave me the advice I > mentioned above, ie. leave the machine powered off for a minute or > so. My guess would be that the Live CD was using the hard drive as a DNS cache. It shouldn't, and it's hard to credit that such a bug hasn't been found. > I don't doubt what you say about the RAM, you're probably right that > it was something else. All I know for sure is I nearly lost my cool > (imagine that)! It would make my hair stand up. What's it like in the Twilight Zone? -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly large whinge
On Wednesday 16 Jun 2004 9:36 pm, JoeHill wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:52:15 -0700 > > Eric Huff disseminated the following: > > Maybe i'll give gnoppix a looksy, too. > > If you do, and when you reboot after trying it out your host name is > fuxored, turn off your comp and leave it off for about a minute. > Apparently the settings can stay stuck in physical memory, learned > this the hard way m'self. That's either magic, or what you're seeing is some data cached somewhere out on the net that hasn't been timed out and flushed. 1. On a power-down all the RAM will clear. 2. Linux is very careful to clear RAM before it's used, otherwise you could request some memory and find someone's password in it. 3. It's next to impossible to reboot and have everything in the same positions, byte perfect. Having said that, a soft reboot does not reset the PCI devices, so you could end up with one of them in a bad state. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] automatic batch editing of files
When sed is not quite powerful enough, you should start learning awk. Other commands that are very useful are "cut" and "tr". -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] printing - man files & info files.
On Sunday 13 Jun 2004 10:35 pm, robin wrote: > Johan Sch wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > printing man files I do this .. man grub | col -b | lpr .. which > > is ok. but.. > > Please how can info files be printed, they seem to have more > > detail. > > You can send them directly to lpr too, but I use a2ps for printing > out both man and info pages (and indeed most text documents). The > basic command is: > > info grub | a2ps -t grub > > This will print it out in two virtual pages, with the title "grub". > There are a lot of options for both commands, so first look at > > info info > > and > > info a2ps > > The first can select which nodes you want to print, and the second > will give you lots of printing options. > > Sir Robin For man pages, the man command can do it without any help: man -t subject | lpr This has the advantage of retaining the bold and underline attributes, which the "col -b" command strips. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft Brazil Decries Government Use of Linux
On Wednesday 09 Jun 2004 1:45 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Tuesday 08 June 2004 07:27 pm, Richard Urwin wrote: > >>> snip > > > > www.sysinternals.com give away a screensaver that gives authentic > > blue screens (with the right modules and other data listed) and > > then shows the reboot followed by a checkdisk with massive hard > > disk errors and another blue screen and so on. Great fun. > > Unfortunately it only runs on Windows. > > Let's see if I have this straight. A guy writes a program that > actually runs on Windows, but all it does is simulate a Windows > crash. My mind is boggled. I have to lay down in a dark room for a > while. As a final joke, moving the mouse doesn't exit the screensaver, you have to hit a key. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft Brazil Decries Government Use of Linux
On Tuesday 08 Jun 2004 11:07 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Tuesday 08 June 2004 00:43, Lanman wrote: > > > > > Finally! I think someone has finally hit the nail on the head! > > IMNSHO, that's exactly what Linux is missing! Can someone here > > write a quick and nasty little applet that will emulate a > > Microsoft Crash Panel? > > > > One of those "Windows has performed an illegal operation and will > > be shut down" type of pop-ups? We could certainly change the text > > to whatever we wanted, and in the spirit of "Open-Source" we > > could give users the ability to change the text! > > > > Something like this : (see attachment) ? www.sysinternals.com give away a screensaver that gives authentic blue screens (with the right modules and other data listed) and then shows the reboot followed by a checkdisk with massive hard disk errors and another blue screen and so on. Great fun. Unfortunately it only runs on Windows. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Linux Tutorial
On Sunday 06 Jun 2004 9:02 pm, aron wrote: > And Rute Tutorial and exposition > http://freshmeat.net/redir/rute/9186/url_homepage/rute.2038bug.com > download tit in HTML or .tar.gz form Or just "urpmi rute" It's on the 9.2 CDs, probably on 10.0 too. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Linux Tutorial
On Sunday 06 Jun 2004 8:36 pm, OOzy wrote: > Cool and nice; however, it is a site-meaning I have read online or go > through the long process of printing. Can I find this tutorial in PDF > or at least one file. Most of them come in dual html/pdf form http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/intro-linux.pdf -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange boot options
On Friday 04 Jun 2004 11:06 pm, Brian Meadows wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 23:58:06 +0100, Derek wrote: > >On Wednesday 02 Jun 2004 22:37, brian wrote: > >snip > > > >> So most of those I understand, but anyone know what the numeric > >> entries represent? > >> > >> Second question - 9.1 ran just fine on this PC (600 MHz PIII, 512 > >> MB of memory) but once I'd installed 10.0 I noticed a lot of disk > >> thrashing going on. I ran up KDE system guard (I"m using the > >> version of KDE which came with 10.0, and that's the only desktop > >> I've installed) to find that I'd only got a couple of megs of > >> memory free, which explains the thrashing, > > > >Linux uses all unused memory as a disc cache. It is perfectly normal > > for memory usage to be 100% After all unused memory is 'wasted' > > memory. > > Hmm. And a hard disk which is being *constantly* accessed is a > hard disk that is likely to have a short lifespan - assuming > you're not running server-class drives, which I'm not on my Linux > box. I wouldn't have noticed the memory usage had it not been for > the disk thrashing. > ... > Thanks for the info, but I'm still not convinced. If this > constant disk access really is normal for a Linux system, I'm > going to buy shares in some hard drive manufacturers! You're right in that it shouldn't be constantly thrashing the disk, but Derek is correct that most of memory is always used for disk caching, so it isn't obvious. Try: $ top and give it the commands: fuOu Check the nFLT column (page fault count.) With an uptime of 1 3/4 days I have X at 19k, and several desktop (xfce) processes at 1-3k. Anything increasing constantly might be a problem. I'm using 9.2 with 320M of memory. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Trashed Laptop
On Friday 28 May 2004 5:34 pm, Drew Martin wrote: > Hi All, > I need some tech help. > A friend of mine has had her Windows XP Laptop trashed by a number of > viri and Trojans a so called friend sent her.They have smashed her > Firewall,and killed her AV scanner.The effect is she can no longer > boot up at all. Is there any way I can boot up her PC using MKD Move > or Knoppix,and copy over the files on the machine,to my MDK only > PC,so I can clean them and save them to disc?If the worse comes to > the worse,would be possible to connect a USB printer and print them > off?Does Ark do spilt Zip files over multiple floppies?Because that > maybe an other answer to the problem. > My PC has USB ports and a network card,I would prefer to use the > USB,because I use the NIC to connect to the net using a cable > modem.and I dont want to naff up MAC address for it. > Drew I should work fine. Assuming that DHCP is done on the modem: Get a cheap ethernet hub, disconnect the modem from the outside world and plug both machines and the modem into the hub. Boot knoppix. If DHCP is done by the ISP: Get your machine up and running on the internet. Find it's IP address with ifconfig. Disconnect it from the modem and connect both machines to each other with a hub or cross-over ethernet lead. Boot knoppix on the failed machine and set its IP address to one on the same subnet as your machine. eg if your address is 192.168.1.1 choose 192.168.1.2. Using the USB is possible, but I don't know how and it probably requires more arcane fiddling. BTW, the MAC address is fixed in ROM on your NIC, and is eight bytes long, usually shown with colon separators. The IP address is the one you can foul up; it is four bytes separated by periods. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Blueetooth network with Mandrake how ??
On Friday 28 May 2004 11:58 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear Friends, > > I want to make network connection between my Laptop and Desktop > computer at home. They both have usb bluetooth dongle. How can I make > connection between these Computers and how can I reach to Internet > with my Desktop Computer through the Laptop 's modem.?? Here be dragons; bluetooth is still under development. However BlueZ is included in Mandrake 9.2 out of the box, and you don't *appear* to have to patch the kernel. Check out the TWiKi: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/BlueTooth and then this link: http://bluez.sourceforge.net/contrib/HOWTO-PAN -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Eric's Ultimate Solitaire
On Monday 24 May 2004 10:28 pm, David B. Williams wrote: > I had bought and installed Eric's Ultimate Solitaire under Mandrake > 9.1 When I tried to install and run under 10.0 (with 2.6.whatever > kernal) I get a segmentation fault. > Since this is typically a compilation type of problem and I would not > expect to have this type of problem on an upgrade, is there something > that I am missing or can do? Not, in my experience a compilation problem. I would guess that you have newer libraries than the application is expecting. I suggest that you complain bitterly to the software producer and see if you can get them to help you narrow down the problem. For instance which libraries it uses, and which versions of those libraries it has been tested against. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Threaded messages in KMail??
On Monday 24 May 2004 8:29 am, John Wilson wrote: > On May 23, 2004 08:26 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote: > > I'm not sure, but in my KMail, all I have to do is open the menu > > Folder > Threaded message, and all messages in the folder got > > threaded. > > > > But, some messages do get failed to be threaded. I dunno why. > > It's because the writer didn't really reply to the original thread > but created the RE: and stuff themselves. So it loses the threading > that the mailer is looking for. > > This one bugged me for a while till I started to examine headers and > figured it out. Oh, and I did it myself too pressing the new message > option instead of reply. :) If adding the RE: yourself is too much trouble, Outlook has the same brain-dead behaviour. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: annoying spam filters
On Monday 24 May 2004 6:26 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: > On Monday 24 May 2004 12:23 pm, robin wrote: > > > Well, spam filters don't yank accounts, ISP's do after they have > > > received complaints by recipients that someone is sending out > > > spam from their system. I was cautioning him before he gives > > > advice on how to send out mass mailings to make sure that they > > > have permission from the recipients. Or inevitably, complaints > > > will follow and accounts will be cancelled, or IP's will get > > > blacklisted. Usually fairly swiftly. > > > > Ah right, I see what you mean. However, I doubt if any of the > > people on this particular list would complain to the ISP, they'd > > just mail him. > > Well, if I were to receive email from someone talking to me about a > high-school reunion that I did not solicit and who did not ask my > permission before they began sending mail to my email address, I > would likely complain to the ISP about receiving spam. That does beg > the question of how my email address was obtained, but obtaining an > email address is not the same as obtaining permission to send email > to that address. > > If the To: line showed more than 50 recipients, along with my own > email address, broadcast to every person on that list, I would > positively complain to the ISP about receiving spam. Most ISP's have > policies against mass mailing, definitely have policies against > unsolicited mass-mailing and in most cases will cancel a user account > rather than risk being labeled spam-friendly. > > In any group of 200+ people, you have to expect that at least a few > would be heartless net-nazi's like me. ;-} You might also consider whether all 200 recipients should be able to see all the other addresses. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange Activity
On Saturday 22 May 2004 8:18 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote: > On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 13:18, JoeHill wrote: > > ...betcha gotta be root to access eth0, most net traffic monitors > > I've used were like that. > > Absolutely right ! > Thanks ! If you're running 2.6 kernel there might be a better way by setting the capability bits on the executable. I don't know if the tools are in place yet to set it up though. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] archiving large files
On Thursday 20 May 2004 11:48 am, Paul Kaplan wrote: > I would like to burn CDs containing copies of virtual machine disk > images. These image files are larger than 700Mb. Does anyone know of > a way to archive a large file so that I can burn a portion of the > file to a CD and the remaining portion onto a second CD. If I do > this, how do I restore the original file. > I don't have a network or second hard drive option for backup at the > moment. TIA > Paul Does this help? http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=222 -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Nvidia xfree86 and mdk 10
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 11:55 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: > On Tuesday 18 May 2004 06:40 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: > > It is detecting 2 displays, but I only have one connected. How do I > > get it to use the other display, rather than the tv-0? > > In the Device section where you specify the nvidia driver, add a line > like this: > > #Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "CRT, TV" > > And tell it to ignore the devices you don't want to use. Without the # ? -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 1:41 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 18:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sun, 16 May 2004 10:43 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 08:05, John Richard Smith wrote: > > > > >I am coming in late here but remove supermount might be the > > > > > answer, so it has always been in my systems. On some it works > > > > > on others it doesn't. > > > > > > > > > >HTH > > > > > > > > Easyest wayI found was to # out the entries for supermount > > > > floppies and replace them with, > > > > > > > > /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto > > > > user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto > > > > 0 0 > > > > > > > > that sets up automount which does work. > > > > > > Neither of these suggestions work either. I # out any reference > > > to mounting the floppy and attempted to mount manually after a > > > reboot. Still no luck, the message is that fd0 is not a valid > > > block device. If I look in the /dev directory, fd0 is there with > > > me as the owner. What on earth is going on > > > > > > Rich > > > > Try this, in /etc/fstab :- > > > > /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto unhide,noauto,user 0 0 > > > > It will probably deliver error messages other than that the > > /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device. Then adjust accordingly. > > > > The only other thing I can think of is try this, in /etc/fstab :- > > > > /dev/floppy/0 /mnt/floppy auto > > rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,unhid > >e,umask=0,user=rich 0 0 > > > > Or whatever your user name is. Or leave out the actual =rich out of > > the line. > > > > Try both ways. > > > > That is how my system writes it in /etc/mtab so that might be of > > assistance. I have got things working by following the lead of > > /etc/mtab. > > > > Apologies because I am still using 9.2 and not 10 of any version. > > Nothing seems to work. I copied the line from /etc/mtab into > /etc/fstab and am able to mount the floppy manually from the cl. I > can read the floppy but when I try to copy a file to it, it begins by > asking if I want to overwrite the file with the same name; I reply > yes and the copy sequence starts, puts in the new date and then stops > with a > 'input/output' error. The file on the floppy has a new date and a > size of 0! > > I'm baffled. We're in the process of moving and I just don't have a > lot of time to spend on this problem anymore. When all else fails it might be a hardware error. Try formatting a floppy on the machine, the drive might be out of alignment, and this may then allow you to write floppies on that drive. But you might not be able to use them on any others... Try swapping the drive, they're dead cheap. Might also be the controller on the Mobo, of course. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] XFCE4
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 4:13 am, David B. Williams wrote: > Does anyone know how I get the terminal from the task bar on Xfce4 to > start in a particular directory? > I have looked at all of the "stuff" in the .Xfce4 directory and > nothing seems to have anything to do with the terminal start point. > By-the-way, I am using /usr/X11R6/bin/rxvt and have checked in that > directory for the config info and haven't found anything that seems > to correlate to what directory that rxvt starts in. > And, I am using rxvt because whatever xfce4 defaults to - couldn't be > found when I installed xfce4. man rxvt and man bash to find a command-line option that does what you want. Then change the command line that XFCE4 uses to invoke it. (right-click, properties) Having said that, I can't see any really good way to do what you want. The only way I can see is to specify a specific .bashrc file for bash. rxvt -e /bin/bash --rcfile myrcfile Where myrcfile contains: source ~/.bashrc cd mydirectory Note: I haven't tested this. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Confused about domain names
On Monday 17 May 2004 10:38 pm, Steve Mansfield wrote: > I'm a little uncertain about which domain name to use for my network > configuration. Here's the setup: > > * I have a small home network. Until today, only one of the machines > on it was running Linux - now I've installed Mandrake 10 Community on > another. * I own a domain name - let's call it mydomain.com - so when > I was installing Mandrake I chose this for the machine's domain. The > machine's name is 'photo' So the FQDN for that machine is: > photo.mydomain.com. > * However, the other Linux machine, called 'scoop' (running SuSE, as > it happens) selected for itself the domain 'local' - so that machine > is 'scoop.local'. > * The domain mydomain.com is actually hosted by a third party, not on > my machines. > > Does any of this matter much? Are there advantages to having both > machines using 'mydomain.com'? I thought I'd ask because I've just > persuaded my better half to convert to Linux, so a third Linux > machine will be joining the network. > > I've googled a fair bit on this, but nothing I've found really > tackles the issue of whether it matters what domain name you choose - > simply that you have to have one! > > Intuitively, I can see that it might be best if all the machines have > the same DN - I don't know what it affects, but it seems sensible > that they would. But should it be 'mydomain.com' or 'local'? > > I'd appreciate any thoughts. Here's my setup. Domain name: soronlin.org.uk External DNS: www.soronlin.org.uk - registrar's server, redirected to ISP's server notsaying.soronlin.org.uk - My IP address, ie my router [EMAIL PROTECTED] - MX to notsaying.soronlin.org.uk (priority 10) and ISP mailserver (priority 20) Router: Passes SMTP (TCP port 25) to mercury Internal: mercury.soronlin.org.uk venus.soronlin.org.uk That's worked faultlessly so far. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] writing sms
On Monday 10 May 2004 9:35 am, Thujan wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a program to write sms to gsm phone? > Phone is old ericsson t-65 with serial cable to > serial port. > It would be easier to write those with decent > keyboard rather than phone itself. > I have used this same phone as gprs-modem > with pppd and it works fine. > But writing sms needs some program to do it. > > Thank you advance Maybe. You could try scmxx. I've used it to send SMS from a T39m over bluetooth. (But that shouldn't make any difference; at that level bluetooth looks like a serial port, in fact I think scmxx expects a serial port.) The caveat is that scmxx is written for a Seimens phone, and using anything else is at your own risk. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] System Slowdown
On Friday 07 May 2004 7:37 am, Richard Urwin wrote: > Run ntop. I've found one of the Samba clients grabbing huge amounts > of memory after about three weeks. Not clients, components. Must not post first thing in the morning. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] System Slowdown
On Friday 07 May 2004 1:37 am, Chris wrote: > Not a big deal, but it seemed over the past few days the taskbar > would take longer and longer to unhide/hide until tonight it took > about 5 or 6 seconds to unhide. It also seemed that switching between > desktops became slower. I went ahead and rebooted which of course > cleared out the problem. The system had been up for right at 30 days > with 9.0. Anyone want to take a guess at what may cause this? Run ntop. I've found one of the Samba clients grabbing huge amounts of memory after about three weeks. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] X server crash
On Sunday 02 May 2004 6:05 pm, Jason Jesso wrote: > I have attached the XF86Config-4 file. > > My video chip is on-board and has 2 MB memory. > > The strange thing is that these setting are the settings I had 2 > versions of Mandrake ago. 2MB is really small these days. Seems the default install doesn't support it. Good to see you're working again though. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] X server crash
On Sunday 02 May 2004 5:10 pm, Jason Jesso wrote: > I have installed Mandrake 10 Community. > > It seems the X server crashes when I start X e.g. startx > > I have attached the XFree86 log. Make no sense to me. I think this is it: >(EE) ATI(0): Virtual size (1024x768) (pitch 1024) exceeds video memory Can you post the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file and we'll be able to suggest some corrections to it. >(II) ATI(0): Using 8 MB linear aperture at 0xFD00. >(!!) ATI(0): Virtual resolutions will be limited to 2047 kB > due to linear aperture size and/or placement of hardware cursor image > area. >... >(II) ATI(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 2048 kB You should manage 64k colours (16bpp) at 1024x768, or 24bpp at lower resolutions. How much video memory do you think the board has? -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Sunday 02 May 2004 4:52 am, Carl J. Bauman wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >"In earlier times when few people could read, the star on the door > >was for the men, and the moon for the ladies." Why the star? Why the > >moon? Truth be told, we've got no idea. > > We're way OT now, ain't we? > > FWIW, the first paragraph on this page, > http://www.udayton.edu/mary/questions/yq/yq244.html, seems to > connect the waning and waxing of the moon with the female menstrual > cycle,as well as the Virgin Mary. That might explain the crescent > moon for the ladies? It also seems to point to the sun or a star as > a symbol for the Christ, possibly explaining that association with > men. During the colonial and expansionist phases of US history, > literacy was low but most people would've been familiar with this > symbolism even though we've moved away from it in modern times. I would hazard a guess that the star was originally a stylised sun. I imagine, cutting a hole in the wood, its hard to make the two look much different. For reasons why the moon, take a look at the moon on Tuesday night between 8pm and 10pm (probably BST, = GMT-1) from anywhere in Europe, Africa, Asia or Australia. (I have a feeling Australians wont see much due to it being daylight.) It rises between 8:20 and 9:10 in Britain. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Happy May Day!
On Sunday 02 May 2004 6:47 am, David E. Fox wrote: > On Sat, 1 May 2004 14:15:23 -0400 > > JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Solidarnosc! > > > > (wife's Polish...) > > Gesundheit. :) > > Happy May Day to you as well. Here in Northern California there was a > report of a "gathering" of "Christians" going about their daily > defense of marriage protest, something about May Day for Marriage or > something. I heard it over KGO this afternoon. I thought it pretty > funny; what are these "christians" doing, usurping a holiday that for > most of recent history, has always been associated with Communism? Because they are remembering their pagan roots, when everyone went off and bonked in the woods on May Day (AKA Beltain.) Tradition had it that children conceived in or out of wedlock at Beltain were holy and nothing to be ashamed about. Hooray, Hooray! It's the First of May! Outdoor sex begins today! -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] review of updating proceedures
On Saturday 01 May 2004 12:39 pm, Thinker wrote: > 5. After the update is complete, type 'alt+F1' then, reboot the > machine. I think you mean F7. It is not necessary to reboot unless you have just installed a new Linux kernel. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Does this bloke work for Microsoft FUD specialists?
On Sunday 25 Apr 2004 12:38 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > JoePill, I know you'll dig this one...ahem... > > http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/235 Very biased and FUD but he does make a few good points. Most of which have already been covered by our favourite distro. For Joe Public automated updates would be good. I could write a worm and a backdoor into Linux without too much thought. It wouldn't run as root, but you don't need to run as root to run an SMTP client. It wouldn't auto-run, but the latest and most successful MS worms don't either. So the spammers could target Linux. There ought to be a kernel configuration to require that applications opening any network link are trusted. Now 2.6 has capability bits it should be possible to do. I don't know how the kazaa look-alikes work under Linux, but I imagine that the exported files are just saved under the user's home. A worm could probably just write itself into that folder. With Linux an email virus/worm cannot destroy the system easily, but they can subvert it. And that is what most new viruses/worms try to do. Now is not the time to rest on our laurels. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Sunday 25 Apr 2004 10:15 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 19:04, Richard Urwin wrote: > > On Sunday 25 Apr 2004 3:58 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > Besides, I'm a traditionalist; sendmail has been part of *NIX for > > > quite a long time and well, I don't see why it SHOULDN'T be used > > > because of it's, well, age...(g) > > > > You don't bother with the M4 macros then, Stephen? > > The only M4 I use is outside of Sydney. > (g) Good for you. I was doing that on SunOS4.1 I selected Postfix for Linux without a backward glance. Check out the first paragraph of chapter 18 of the Linux Network Admins Guide. (tldp or O'Reilly) I knew the M4 ran from London to Swansea, I didn't know it went as far as Sydney. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Another Xfce convert!
On Sunday 25 Apr 2004 4:59 am, Marv Boyes wrote: > Stephen Kuhn wrote: > >On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 12:09, Marv Boyes wrote: > >>My only gripe is that I can't figure out how to make a particular > >> window "always on top"-- it's the one feature of KDE I really > >> miss. Xfce's panel will do it; does anybody know if there's a way > >> to make a window do it, as well? > > > >RIGHT-CLICK on the title bar, choose STICK > > Naw, all that does is slap the window up across all of my workspaces. > What I meant was, is there any way to have one particular window > always on top, no matter which window I'm working in? For example: > under KDE, I could have, say, a terminal window open and set it to > "Always on top", then type something in another window while reading > output from the terminal window, which would never be covered by > another window (think Xfce's panel layer set to "Top"). If you set focus to follow the mouse, then the window with focus doesn't move up the stack until you click in it. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Sunday 25 Apr 2004 3:58 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > Besides, I'm a traditionalist; sendmail has been part of *NIX for > quite a long time and well, I don't see why it SHOULDN'T be used > because of it's, well, age...(g) You don't bother with the M4 macros then, Stephen? -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Saturday 24 Apr 2004 11:49 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 21:47, Richard Urwin wrote: > > 9.1? Why? > > Postfix can be a problem in 9.2 because it installs a > > non-functional mailman. Solution is to configure mailman or just > > uninstall both and reinstall Postfix. I didn't have a problem with > > 9.1final though, although I might have just selected different > > install options. > > Richard, that's one of my first ever posts to the group - some > several years ago now. Wow. Something is FUBAR. But this once I don't think it's the list server... Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by smtp1.mandrax.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F131017346D for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 06:59:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 1421 invoked by uid 65534); 24 Apr 2004 10:41:37 - Received: from wolax11-037.dialup.optusnet.com.au (EHLO wolax11-037.dialup.optusnet.com.au) (211.29.207.37) by mail.gmx.net (mp018) with SMTP; 24 Apr 2004 12:41:37 +0200 ... * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Saturday 24 Apr 2004 11:40 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > Ok, y'all - no flames, no laughs, no jests. > > The day before yesterday I hosed my PRIMARY linux box - running RH > 7.3+. Because the partition table was mucked up beyond recognition, I > lost my email, bookmarks, contacts, yadda yadda yadda...you name it, > I lost it. Mind included. > > Resolution to the issue was at first trying to get RH 8.0 on NICELY - > didn't work. Actually, the performance was so lousy, and setting up a > SIMPLE BLOODY HCF MODEM was so complex, I gave up. It was sickening. > Hours gone for nothing. Ok - so now I've installed MDK 9.1rc2 - > installation of EVERYTHING (and some) was less than an hour. Even > setup my / and other FS's as ReiserFS without a hitch. Changed to the > NVidia driver (via source compilation) in no time at all. Had to dig > for KPPP, though - cuz it wasn't installed by default and the MCC > still don't play nicely for doing simple setups - but that's another > story...even got my IP masquerading done rather quickly - few minutes > - nice. > > I have to say that KDE 3.1 is a beaut. MDK 9.1 has quite a bit of > polish, quite a bit of performance - quite a lot of getting used to > because, remember, I was enslaved to the RH world - but no mo. Nada. > Done. Finito. > > The only issues I have now are that I have to get Postfix (yech) > working nicely as it ain't playing nicely - and I'm far from being a > Postfix freak - so I'm wondering about blowing Postfix and putting > Sendmail on... > > SO, if y'all got something to tell me - some bits of wisdom or > advice, please PLEASE tell me - cuz I've already lost three days of > productivity with this and well, I'm really tired now...(grin) BUT, > I'm happy it's working like a champ (performance is still mind > boggling for me...really - not a joke) 9.1? Why? Postfix can be a problem in 9.2 because it installs a non-functional mailman. Solution is to configure mailman or just uninstall both and reinstall Postfix. I didn't have a problem with 9.1final though, although I might have just selected different install options. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Automatically mount a USB drive
On Wednesday 21 Apr 2004 9:24 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > In case of nothing (exept the keyboard) working, and right before > you consider a hard reset, you have to play a little piano-sonata : > > + + r + s + e + i + u + b > > (Mnemotech : Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring) > > This sequence performs a clean reboot, including sync. There are one or two people who have recently said they had no option but a hard reset. I would say it was absolutely vital to do this sequence, even if you think the keyboard is dead. I would suggest that Raising Skinny Elephants Is Sometimes Utterly 'Orrible, because It's probably a good idea to sync after killing all the tasks. A soft reboot doesn't send a bus reset to the peripherals, so it might leave them in a bad state. Given the choice it's better to switch the machine off. But either version is a lot better than nothing. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] wc
On Wednesday 21 Apr 2004 5:51 am, JoeHill wrote: > Just saw this on the Procmail Tips page and it has me all excited: > > see 'man wc' > > ...haven't the faintest idea what to use it for yet, but I haven't > been this horned up about a command line tool since I discovered > 'grep' :-D On a distant list, far away... Someone asked if Ethereal had the functionality of Sniffer (the commercial equivalent) to draw a picture of the communications between machines. It only took me an hour and a half to write a command line script that accepted a network capture file and produced a picture (gif, postscript or what-have-you) that showed conversations between machines as lines between labelled boxes. Then someone else pointed out that two sed invocations and a tr could be replaced by a simple awk script. I love Linux. To blow your mind: man awk -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help
On Wednesday 21 Apr 2004 5:20 am, Carl J. Bauman wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >You can run anything you like from within XFCE, the right-click menu > > should be the same as your KDE or Gnome menus > > Hi Joe, > > I didn't find this to be true in my case. I'm running Mandrake 10.0 > and, since I was having trouble with urpmi in general at the time, I > installed xfce4 from sources. Is there a way to add my KDE menus to > the desktop menu, short of manually adding everything to menu.xml? I > didn't see anything mentioned in the online manual. If you install from Charles' source the Mandrake menu appears as on entry in the right click menu. You'll have to ask him how he did it though if you want to stick with the compiled version. My best tip: load the command line applet and add it to the panel. You'll soon wonder how you survived without it. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Sunday 18 Apr 2004 5:58 am, Guy Rouillier wrote: > >> Ever try to cut and paste from nedit into sylpheed, for example? > >> Why can't everyone agree on something simple like a clipboard, for > >> crying out loud? > > > >Hmmm, select in one, middle-click in the other, seems to work fine > > for me ;-) > > Hmm, select text in nedit, crtl-c, go to some other app, ctrl-v - > nothing. > > Hmm, try same with ctrl-ins, shift-ins, again nothing. > > So which are the clipboard keys? I tend to agree with you, you can blame KDE. There are two standards. The X standard is to highlight the text in one application and then middle-click in the other. The KDE standard is to follow MS (ctrl-c, ctrl-x, ctrl-v), which is fine for useability; I often want to replace some text with pasted text and the KDE method is much easier. Many applications obey both standards, but some don't. I find that I cannot paste from eterm to kmail for example. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Simple home network
On Monday 12 Apr 2004 11:21 am, Aron Smith wrote: > On Monday 12 April 2004 01:47 am, John Wilson wrote: > > On April 11, 2004 07:39 pm, Marc wrote: > > . > > > > In the vast majority of cases two grounds will simply, as you say, > > make things worse. > > Can't see that electricity is going to follow Ohms law and go the > path of least resistance so 2 grounds would be (r1+r2)/(r1*r2) =Rt There are two things wrong with this. Firstly, ground is not a perfect conductor. Many cows die because their feet are different distances from a lightning strike, creating a voltage of several thousand volts across the length of the cow. There will be a similar voltage between your two earth rods. Secondly, lightning is high frequency and unimaginably high voltage. It behaves in strange ways that are still imperfectly understood. In addition it may create an earth loop, which is basically an antenna. (My HiFi used to pick up Radio Moscow until I removed one of the earths.) Your earth wiring could pick up an induced voltage from a nearby lightning strike and fry equipment that would otherwise be safe. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Changing file attributes
On Friday 09 Apr 2004 5:43 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > Andrew Archibald wrote: > >On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 14:13, John Richard Smith wrote: > >>So essentially , as far as icon display is concerned it is almost > >>certainly going to be a viewer setting problem. > > > >Yep, suppose that's the long & short of it! It all boils down to two > >lines! I think there is such a thing as "extended file attributes" > > which allow such things as file type & icons to be embedded but I > > really know nothing about them and I don't think they are > > implemented. If anyone knows more then I'd be interested to hear > > about it... > > > >Glad to be of help. > > > >A. > > Andrew, > I think I spoke a bit to soon. > I noticed that although this MD10 iso file had a text file icon in > Konqueror , when I switched to another iso file on the same partition > it displays the icon with the usual iso question mark icon, and so > therefore I draw the conclusion that the file's own attributes much > be governing the choice of konqueror's icon choice. > > So then I decided to transfer the file over to an ext2 partition and > did this, > > lsattr -RVadlv .Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD1.i586.iso > lsattr 1.23, 15-Aug-2001 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09 > 147311 .Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD1.i586.iso - > > Which doesn't seem to be telling me a lot. > > I'm guessing there is a lot more to this question of attributes > I think there must be another level up from this. > what does anyone else think ? > Try the "file" command on both ISOs. Is it possible that you transfered the bad one in ASCII mode rather than Binary mode? If so konquerer could be identifying it as text. Or it might be that it just happens to have some magic sequence of bytes, such as no bytes above 127 in the first bit of the file. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Some system messages [OT]
On Friday 09 Apr 2004 2:36 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > Just was doing some playing around - had a chuckle, thought I'd pass > this along to y'all. > >... > [08:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ man woman > No manual entry for woman [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]$ ping of.angels ping: unknown host of.angels [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]$ man -k nudist.attire nudist.attire: nothing appropriate Have a play with the enclosed program while working hard. -- Richard Urwin raven Description: application/shellscript Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to create UTF-8 encoded text files?
On Thursday 08 Apr 2004 8:23 pm, Arys P. Deloso wrote: > Can anyone point me to the right direction in creating/editing a text > file with UTF-8 encoding? www.jedit.org Damn fine editor, and it does UTF8, 16 and a lot more. You'll need the Sun or IBM Java runtime though. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
