Re: [newbie] Windows 98 Defrag and Linux Partitions
Major difference with ME is that dos mode doesn't exist, only dos programs that would run in a dos window will work. But its much faster than 98 in just about every way, 98 was not a good OS in my opinion, but ME seems to be reasonable. But ME won't install on a machine any slower than a Pentium 150. Rod - Original Message - From: "Doug McGarrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Windows 98 Defrag and Linux Partitions > At 08:08 10/23/2000 +1000, Rod Baxter wrote: > > >Running in safe mode will slow your disk access down a lot. Run defrag from > >within windows and it will be much quicker. It might even cure your problem. > >In safe mode windows is not very smart! If you need to use windows, > >consider going to windows ME, its much quicker, and seems to have far less > >problems. > > > >Regards,Rod > > > /snipped off all old stuff/ > > The few I have spoken to who have tried ME have found that there are some > programs that won't run, and hardware incompatibilities. I don't have > details, > and I won't run and get them, since I have no intention of using ME. > I think the only thing faster in ME is bootup, but could be wrong. > (I'm trying to get away from this MS OS, but I'm here at the moment since I > had > to help my granddaughter with Eudora setup.) I find that KMail has a lot of > Eudora's capabilities, BTW, and sets up the filters in similar fashion. > > --doug, wa2say > > > > >
Re: [newbie] Dupes
I also subscribe to another group (to do with trains, not computers) and never get duplicates there, its only Mandrakesoft as far as I can tell. Regards Rod - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 5:08 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Dupes > The "dup" messages are coming primarily from the mailing list server at > Mandrakesoft. > > -- > Mark > > /* I never worry about the to-jams. > * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth > * it's already too late...just make sure > * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! > */ > Registered Linux user #182496 > * Pine 4.21 * > > On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 9:36am ,Larry Marshall spake passionately in a message: > > > > > > I...err actually use Windows and IE5.5 for my mail, but I only get > > > duplicate mail from mail groups, never duplicates of any mail sent directly > > > to me. And sometimes the duplicates will be missing the header or similar. > > > > Now that is odd. When I'm not using Pine I use Pronto or Netscape. > > It's rare for me to see a dupe in these two GUI programs. > > > > Cheers --- Larry > > > > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] Windows 98 Defrag and Linux Partitions
Running in safe mode will slow your disk access down a lot. Run defrag from within windows and it will be much quicker. It might even cure your problem. In safe mode windows is not very smart! If you need to use windows, consider going to windows ME, its much quicker, and seems to have far less problems. Regards,Rod - Original Message - From: "Mike & Tracy Holt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 2:36 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Windows 98 Defrag and Linux Partitions > Ok, a few comments here... > > >Clicked OK to a few things and it comes to the partitioning tool. > >I resized my 20 gig windows partition down to around 13 to 15 gigs, and > >clicked "Auto Allocate" and it automatically created 4 partitions.( swap, > >root, usr, home, or whatever order it was). > > First, I never let Linux play with my Windows partitions. When it comes to > moving things around, I either decide before loading anything to the disk > how I'm going to slice it up or I use Partition Magic. This may seem > unrelated, but I wonder if Mandrake is trying to make an extended partition > in which to enclose both Windows and Linux - that could affect your mbr. > > >After everything is working fine, if I go right into safe mode and load up > >defrag and let it run, I end up with an unbootable machine since grub can't > >read the linux partition. > > Why are you going into 'safe-mode' to run defrag? 'Safe-mode' on Windows > machines is only for repairing your system. An example would be if you > installed new software or drivers that renders your machine unbootable, you > would go into 'safe-mode' and thus only the minimal drivers necessary to run > your machine would be loaded and you could uninstall whatever had caused the > problem. System utilities such as Scandisk and defrag can / should be run > from 'normal-mode' (turn off your screen savers and the junk in your system > tray). > > > <> > > >Partition table before defrag: > > >Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2491 cylinders > >Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes > > > Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System > >/dev/hda1 * 1 1657 13309821c Win95 FAT32 (LBA) > >/dev/hda2 1658 2491 66991055 Extended > >/dev/hda5 1658 1688248976 82 Linux swap > >/dev/hda6 1689 1726305203+ 83 Linux > >/dev/hda7 1727 2081 2851506 83 Linux > >/dev/hda8 2082 2491 3293293+ 83 Linux > > >During the defrag, there were no screen savers enabled, I was in safe mode, > >and no other programs but defrag were loaded at the time and I let defrag > do > >its stuff overnight, then when I woke up, it said it was done and asked if > I > >wanted to exit it, and I said yes, and then I rebooted hoping to go back to > >normal mode and only shown a grub prompt. > > >The partition table after a defrag ends up wiping out hda7, moving hda8's > >start point to hda6's start point and thus making overlapping partitions. > >(I checked that by typing rescue on the boot of the linux-mandrake CD and > >typing "fdisk -l") > > I think this may confirm my previous thoughts; you say that you're booting > to safe-mode, going to bed and letting it do it's work. Could it be that > since you used a non-windows utility to move your windows partition around > without really telling windows what was going on, then you boot to safe-mode > to run defrag (safe-mode by it's very nature being for repairs), maybe > windows is trying to 'fix' what it perceives to be a damaged partition > table? Remember, changing your partition table on your active system > partition is different than just resizing an extended partition, and even > doing that non-destructively is quite a feat. Try either using Partition > Magic from Win98 to do your partitioning BEFORE installing Mandrake, then > just allocate the unused space - or if you're not worried about losing > Win98, wipe the whole drive with fdisk and slice the drive up however you > intend, then install Win98 to the partition you intend and Linux to it's > partition. However you do it, don't let the linux installer touch your > existing partition table, only let it play with the un-allocated (blank) > space. > > >If a problem with the partition table happens, how do you get the ability > to > >boot back into linux without losing anything even when a restore of the > >partition table and boot sector couldn't do that? I have no problem > getting > >back into windows (brutally with fdisk /mbr) but then I have no way of > >getting back into my linux (and don't know how in grub) and I simply just > >wipe out the linux partition and reinstall (partly because I didn't have > >much important stuff on it at the time anyways). > > If the partition table is actually ruined, you will not be able to get in > without some pretty high tech equipment. If it's just you mbr that's > broken, your boot disk that you make
Re: [newbie] Dupes
I...err actually use Windows and IE5.5 for my mail, but I only get duplicate mail from mail groups, never duplicates of any mail sent directly to me. And sometimes the duplicates will be missing the header or similar. Rod - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Dupes > As a matter of fact Larry I'm using Pine to read the mail and procmail to > filter the mail. I haven't seen a system that does it any better than > these two. The procmail filters are, in my opinion, the absolute best I've > ever used. > > -- > Mark > > /* I never worry about the to-jams. > * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth > * it's already too late...just make sure > * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! > */ > Registered Linux user #182496 > * Pine 4.21 * > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 7:45pm ,Larry Marshall spake passionately in a message: > > > Rod Baxter wrote: > > > > > > You are not the only one! Its not consisent and sometimes the duplicate > > > messages arrive up to 24 hours later. > > > Anyone know why?? > > > > Are you using Pine? I have this problem every time I use it. It's > > not that two copies are hitting the inbox, it has something to do with > > how Pine filters are working or how the expunge command is working. > > The minute I try any other mailer the problem goes away. > > > > Cheers --- Larry > > > > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] Dupes
You are not the only one! Its not consisent and sometimes the duplicate messages arrive up to 24 hours later. Anyone know why?? Rod - Original Message - From: "Greg Cobb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 11:11 PM Subject: [newbie] Dupes > Is everyone getting two of the same message or is it just me? :) > > > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] Monitor problems
I would certainly turn the monitor off as monitors are quite a fire risk. I leave my server at home running all the time behind a UPS and have never had hardware problems. But the monitor goes off. If I remember correctly from years ago, the problem with turning equipment on and off all the time is that the components go through heat stress and the heat causes expansion of course. In many cases its the mechanical expansion which does the damage. These days PC's run a lot cooler (the components that is) and I suspect the gains in leaving the machines on is minimal. Is the fan in your power supply a good ball race fan? If its the usual sleeve variety it will sieze eventually and will, according to Murphy, do it in the middle of the night and cook you machine. Regards,Rod - Original Message - From: "Larry Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Monitor problems > > > In defense of leaving the machine on (particularly if you're running a > > stable system like Linux), other than your monitor, a computer doesn't use > > all that much electricity. A 200W power supply takes about as much as 3-4 > > light bulbs, right? How many lights do you leave on in the house? Might be > > worth it to shut off the monitor and leave the box on. > > In support of what you're saying, that 200W is the potential output > capacity of that device, not its power usage. The machine is actually > using less than that or the power supply would be inadequate. > > Cheers --- Larry > > > >
Re: [newbie] Install problems
7.1 is supposed to support ultra66. But it depends on the chipset I think, and if its a plug in card or not. Rod - Original Message - From: "Dennis Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems > "Kelly, Christopher" wrote: > > > > I have one IDE drive hooked up to an Ultra ATA/66. > > Even if I select "no" at the prompt, it brings it back up...(sigh) > > > > Does LM 7.1 fully support ATA66? I seem to remember something about 7.2 > would but can't recall where or when, I'm getting old and crotchetty. > Somebody know about ATA66? > -- > Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842 > > > >
Re: [newbie] Install problems
If your ultra interface is a plug in card some of these look like SCSI cards to the software. I have a promise card which always detects as a SCSI controller. What is your motherboard and IDE interface etc?? Rod - Original Message - From: "Kelly, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:38 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Install problems > I have one IDE drive hooked up to an Ultra ATA/66. > Even if I select "no" at the prompt, it brings it back up...(sigh) > > -Original Message- > From: John Rye [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems > > > "Kelly, Christopher" wrote: > > > > But, I don't have a SCSI card. That's the whole problem. Whether I press > yes > > or no, it stalls at that point in the installation. > > > Whoa - hang one here.. You don't have any SCSI cards? > But - from your original posting you are answering YES to the question > about SCSI drives Why?? > > What type(s) of drive do you have? > > Give it another burst - this time say NO to the SCSI question.. > > Cheers > > > -- > ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" > (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 5:00 AM > > To: 'Newbie' > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Install problems > > > > Chris, > > > > It sounds to me like the install program is having a hard time with your > > SCSI card. You might try running the installation after removing the > > card. I have a feeling that it will install just fine after that. > > > > -- > > Mark > > > > /* I never worry about the to-jams. > > * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth > > * it's already too late...just make sure > > * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! > > */ > > Registered Linux user #182496 > > * Pine 4.21 * > > > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 1:36pm ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] spake...: > > > > > I have yet another question. Last night, I tried to add Linux MDK 7.1 to > > my > > > computer. I have a 4gig HD and the first 2gigs are devoted to Winbloze. > > The > > > second 2 are setup to take Linux. Here is my problem. I boot from the CD > > and > > > start the 7.1 install. I pick the automated install and continue. It > gets > > to > > > a point were it asks me if I have any SCSI drives on my machine. I tell > it > > > yes, pick the appropriate driver and attempt to continue. It asks yet > > again, > > > "Do you have any SCSI drives?" This time, I pick no and it asks me > again, > > > and again, and again. I'm stuck! It will not go past this point. So, I > > tried > > > running the Customized install and the Expert install and I hit similar > > > snags. I'm getting very frustrated. Am I doing something wrong? I have > > done > > > an install of 7.1 before on this HD. The only difference is that the HD > > has > > > Winbloze on it now. Before it was clean. Help > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Chris Kelly > > > Registered Linux user 185775 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] Mandrake supportI
There is still a reason for calling Manndrake when you have a problem and you do have support. Hopefully, the problems that get reported will be fixed in future releases. If no-one reports the problems they will never be fixed. The problem report needs to be well detailed but it should be submitted. Mind you, I agree with looking it up for yourself if you can, I must have 10,000 pages of aftermarket books on various flavours of linux, I can usually find answers to my problems there. Regards,Rod - Original Message - From: "Phil Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 2:21 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake supportI > I have to agree with you in the 20+ years I've been in the service industry > you find the the tech support guy you get is only as smart as the computer > in front of him Then after that 20th phone call to that company going > through the same crap the other 19 made you go through again and again you > come across the one person in that entire company that has a clue! Go figure > > Phil Connor > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Registered Linux User #189889 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 1:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake supportI > > > Support is useless. Learn it for yourself. The ability to look up > information, ask for help, and work through problems are things don't > don't expire in 6 months. :) > > *^*^*^* > Have the courage to take your own thoughts seriously, for they will shape > you. -- Albert Einstein > > On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] Cloning Drives?
If all your drives are the same ghost will copy disk to disk no matter what the OS is. Just open the machines and plug the copy drive into the other IDE port. RegardsRod - Original Message - From: "Goldenpi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Cloning Drives? > Looks like you have some cd drive moveing to do. Althrough copying disk to > disk under linux can be done, its not going to be easy. You would have to do > a raw copy of the drive. This assumes the drives are all the same model. > First you have the problem of connecting them together by parallel. I tried > that, a plip needs you to recompile the kernal. > > What you could do, if the drives are big enough, is to install from a fat > partition. That way you could use trusty interlink to connect them. I have > never dont that, but it can be done under some distros. Possibly mandrake. > The only catch is you might have to install windows along the way. I dont > know. > > Final option: do they have network cards? ftp install? > > - Original Message - > From: "Kirby J. Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 8:13 PM > Subject: [newbie] Cloning Drives? > > > Has anyone had success in cloning Linux from one PC to another? I'm fairly > new to Linux so I definitely consider myself a "newbie" > > This is my situation... our private school had 8 identical IBM PC's donated > for the students and teachers. Seeing as we had the hardware but no software > (and no funds for the software) I decided that I would try to set up > Mandrake on the computers and let the teachers use Star Office for their > work. > > The problem is that none of the computers came with CD-ROMs. I went out and > purchased an inexpensive internal drive and used it to set up one of the > eight machines like I wanted it and now I want to set up the other seven > machines. > > Ideally, I would like to be able to set the other machines up without going > through the same process all over again (i.e., open the PC up, temporarily > attach the CD-ROM, etc.). I've attempted to use Norton Ghost 6.5 and use the > disk-to-disk copy via the parallel ports and the supplied null cable but it > doesn't seem to be working as I get an error message when I try to boot up > the "slave" PC. > > Can I clone/copy over the hard drive via the parallel ports from within > Linux using "dd" or something? > > Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks, > > Kirby > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] Mandrake supportI
I have provided worldwide support (by phone) for my previous employer on mainframes. I do know what the other side is like and what it takes to provide good support, its not easy. Regards,Rod - Original Message - From: "Romanator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake supportI > Larry Marshall wrote: > > > > > I am registered, and they have not responded to a request for assistance. > > > > Oh...then I misunderstood you Rod. Sorry. I wonder what would happen if > > you contacted Mandrake in France since they've said they have moved > > support to there. > > > > I only used Mandrake support once..when I purchased 7.0 and one of the > > disks was bad. I had a new one within a few days as they sent it priority > > courier to me in Canada. I thought that pretty nice of them. > > > > Cheers --- Larry > > Hi Larry, > > When I registered, I had a response within 48 hours. That's not bad > considering the hundreds of emails they must receive from around the > world. I don't know if any one out there has ever worked in a technical > support environment. I'm sure after a few days work, you'd give 'em a > little break. > > -- > Roman > Registered Linux User #179293 > Oh yeah, I'm in Toronto, Canada > > > >
Re: [newbie] Mandrake supportI
I am registered, and they have not responded to a request for assistance. Regards,Rod - Original Message - From: "Larry Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake supportI > > > > The problem is that I registered the product and as install support is > > advertised I expected to get a reply at the least. $40 dollars or not they > > I've registered a lot of software in my time but I've never expected a > response. What do you want them to say? Presumably, if you have a > problem, and you're registered, they'll help you > > > do advertise support. It just hasn't happened. I don't want to beat up any > > supplier, but I expect them to do as they say. > > They say they'll give you email support, not be your friend :-) > > Cheers --- Larry > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] Mandrake supportI
The problem is that I registered the product and as install support is advertised I expected to get a reply at the least. $40 dollars or not they do advertise support. It just hasn't happened. I don't want to beat up any supplier, but I expect them to do as they say. Regards,Rod - Original Message - From: "Larry Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake supportI > > Now we all know that all software has bugs. So what differentiates between > > suppliers is not the interface but the support! > > As this spools up into a beat up Mandrake support thread, you might be > interested to know that Mandrake has taken control over support from > Macmillan as they realized there were problems. From what I got from the > thread here only a month or so ago, they will take steps to fix these > problems. > > BTW, have you ever tried to get "support" from Microsoft on a Windoze > problem? > > > I won't use or recommend Mandrake for any of my customers. > > What do you recommend? > > > I also emailed Mandrake directly on their advertised line for comments and I > > still haven't heard from them. They don't seem to be after the commercial > > market at all, in fact they don't seem to be interested in anything else > > except selling product. > > You've got to be kidding. You may not have received what you wanted (and > they've admitted problems) but nobody's gonna get rich selling operating > systems to the people who don't want to download it for free, especially > at the prices Linux is being sold for. Open source is ALL about > service. I suspect your problem is that you expect lots of it for $40 or > whatever you paid for Linux and that just isn't going to happen. > > Cheers --- Larry > > > > >
Re: [newbie] Mandrake supportI
Robert, Now we all know that all software has bugs. So what differentiates between suppliers is not the interface but the support! >From my experience (and others it would seem) mandrake don't provide it even though they advertise that they do. Its a great pity really. Mandrake have a nice configuration and tools, but without support they will never do any good. In my business (SI) I would never recommend them, because support is the number one difference between Linux verities. I won't use or recommend Mandrake for any of my customers. I also emailed Mandrake directly on their advertised line for comments and I still haven't heard from them. They don't seem to be after the commercial market at all, in fact they don't seem to be interested in anything else except selling product. Regards,Rod - Original Message - From: "KompuKit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake supportI > I totally agreehey Mandrake...whats up with this? > This isn't good for Mandrake...and I care about this > distribution alot... > I've even gone as far as setting up a message board on my > server > to help with questions...(link in my signature below) > > maynord wrote: > > > > In the U.S., support for Mandrake is supposed to come from the distributor - > > Macmillan. After purchasing the Deluxe version of Mandrake 7.1, I went through > > the process of getting the Macmillan support ID number, etc. Never heard from > > them at all. I also noticed a phone number available for a very limited number > > of hours -- but the printout says there is no support offered by phone. > > > > My installation problem turned out to be a common one, experienced by other > > users. It was legitimate, but not difficult for someone familiar with the > > specifics of verision 7.1. > > > > Why don't they simply set up an installation troubleshooting web site, instead > > of a registration process they cannot adequately respond to? > > > > Robert > > > > On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, you wrote: > > > I had a problem installing 7.1 and as I had bough a package which came with > > > support I emailed mandrake about the problem. I have not had a response from > > > them and its now been four days. Has anyone out there had any experience of > > > their support? I think four days is much too long. > > > Incidentally, I finally got around the problem, but I would still like to > > > hear from Mandrake. > > > > > > Rod > > -- > Registered Linux User:167369 > <=KompuKit=> > Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. > Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com > WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org > (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S & S 12pm-12am EST) > <=KompuKit=> > > > >
[newbie] Mandrake support
I had a problem installing 7.1 and as I had bough a package which came with support I emailed mandrake about the problem. I have not had a response from them and its now been four days. Has anyone out there had any experience of their support? I think four days is much too long. Incidentally, I finally got around the problem, but I would still like to hear from Mandrake. Rod
Re: [newbie] Ultimate Formatting
Try my method. If it still plays up at 94% you may have a media problem. But with a new master boot record it should go OK. - Original Message - From: "Ty Hunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 12:25 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Ultimate Formatting > I'm also Having problems Formatting my HD. I installed 7.1 on it(1.2 Gig), > it ran fine, I wanted to reclaim the HD for Windows and re-install Mandrake > on my larger 10 gig. I Fdisk'ed the 1.2 gig and then rebooted to Format and > at 94% it stops and says 'Format Terminated', no error or anything. now when > I try to boot the linux drive I get some weird Grub prompt. I was thinking > of hooking the 1.2 gig up as a slave then formatting it from windows but if > there is a easier way then that would be great > > -Original Message- > > From: John Rye [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 6:38 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Ultimate Formatting > > > > Rod Baxter wrote: > > > > > > Easy. > > > > > > Boot from a dos boot disk and use dos fdisk. Delete all partitions and > > > reboot from the floppy. Then type fdisk /mbr which will rewrite a > > standard > > > master boot record. > > > But, (as allways!!) if you cannot delete an extended partition because > > it > > > says 'cannot delete while logical drives exist' and when you go and look > > > there are no logical drives you need to cheat a bit. > > > > > > Go into the bios and change the disk drive settings. If its running LBA, > > > change it to normal. Reboot and you will find the logical drives will > > have > > > dissapeared. Delete everything, then reboot and put it back to LBA mode. > > > Then go through the loop again, and finish with the fdisk /mbr command. > > > > > > If its a small disk and you are not running LBA, then just change the > > drive > > > type to something else. > > > > > > Rod > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Kelly, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "'Newbie'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:23 PM > > > Subject: [newbie] Ultimate Formatting > > > > > > > Anybody know how to completely wipe a HD clean?? I am having major > > > problems > > > > and need to start over. I need to blow away partitions and all. Make > > it > > > just like new. > > > > There is a rather smart wee utility called ZeroDisk out there somewhere > > which rewrites every sector. I have used that to do Security Wipes. > > > > I may have a copy here somewhere - whant to check thru the floppy box? > > > > Cheers > > -- > > ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" > > (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) > > > > >
Re: [newbie] Ultimate Formatting
Easy. Boot from a dos boot disk and use dos fdisk. Delete all partitions and reboot from the floppy. Then type fdisk /mbr which will rewrite a standard master boot record. But, (as allways!!) if you cannot delete an extended partition because it says 'cannot delete while logical drives exist' and when you go and look there are no logical drives you need to cheat a bit. Go into the bios and change the disk drive settings. If its running LBA, change it to normal. Reboot and you will find the logical drives will have dissapeared. Delete everything, then reboot and put it back to LBA mode. Then go through the loop again, and finish with the fdisk /mbr command. If its a small disk and you are not running LBA, then just change the drive type to something else. Rod - Original Message - From: "Kelly, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Newbie'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:23 PM Subject: [newbie] Ultimate Formatting > Anybody know how to completely wipe a HD clean?? I am having major problems > and need to start over. I need to blow away partitions and all. Make it just > like new. > Thanks, > Chris Kelly > Registered Linux user 185775 > > > > >
Re: [newbie] install hangs with 7.1.
Gary, It didn't seem to matter if I tried a text based install or not, and by doing an expert install and not allowing the PCI to be probed mandrake will install. As you know it often asks to probe or not, at any of these times it will lock up if allowed to probe. I tried another s3 card which failed the same way so whatever it is its not bad hardware. I also tried a p233 MMX gigabyte tx3 motherboard and it locks up too with the s3 video. Perhaps the only usual thing about my s3 is that it is fully populated with memory (4MB) which at the time of buying these cards was fairly unusual. I don't bother to overclock. Its an interesting challenge but the gains are not worth it in my opinion. My main PC (not yet linux) is a dual PIII 733, udma66 and about 60GB of drives and 256MB of memory. Its pretty slick anyhow. Running w2k every application starts up in about 1 second or less. Once a PC has a reasonably fast CPU the main bottleneck is always disk access, but most people seem to go for faster CPU's all the time. Now if I could overclock the disks!! And the PnP was disabled in the bios too. I'll go back and check the archives again, and look for the VIA discussion. Regards,Rod - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] install hangs with 7.1. > Rod, > A couple of thoughts. First, do I assume correctly that PnP aware O/S is > disabled in CMOS? > About the time I joined newbie (about 6 months ago) there was a > discussion of Linux incompatible VIA motherboard chipsets causing problems. > I have VIA, but these incompatibilities didn't apply to me, and I only caught > the end of the discussion anyway. Might be worth looking it up in the newbie > archives. Since you say that Red Hat runs OK I know that this is reaching, > but the idea of motherboard chipsets does seem to link with your locking > up on PCI probe. I assume install completes with no probing. > I agree that the S3 is probably not the cause of this locking; S3 is > reputed to be well supported. An install with generic server and 16 colors > should be safe for an install trial. Have you tried the text based install? > Have you done any overclocking or related optimizations? I was > overclocking 15% for over a year and a half with no problems, but began to > have Windon't lockups on scandisk. I thought the HDD was getting ready to > quit, but the problem was traced to the overclocking. Memory timing > optimizations remained stable. -Gary- > > In a message dated 10/9/2000 9:24:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Gary, > I bought the package (Linux Mandrake 7.1 complete)from the local software > shop and the bios virus is disabled. Since posting this email I have > elimated a few things. I had the motherboard with only the video card > installed, and as its a PCI s3 it should not be the cause of the problem. > The motherboard does use the Via Apollo chipset, and the hang will occurr > anytime linux probes the PCI bus. I ran through the expert install, and > anytime I answer yes to probling the PCI bus it dies. > I tried reseting my motherboard to defaults, still no different. I also > tried a 5GB drive which is only udma33, but still the same problem. I also > tried another motherboard, a 233MMX and it hangs as well. The only item I > havn't changed is the video card, which I will do, but as Red Hat works > fine, I don't expect it to be the video. > > I am fairly new to linux, however I know PC's fairly well incidentally. > > Regards,Rod > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:43 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie] install hangs with 7.1. > > > > Rod, > > What is the source of the Linux Mandrake CD you are using? Newbie > > recently discussed problems with installs hanging being caused from both > some > > bad ISO sources on the net (literally different file lengths), and from > > images not being downloaded as "binary." Do you have CMOS (motherboard > bios) > > based anti-virus protection enabled? -Gary- > > > > In a message dated 10/9/2000 1:56:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << My machine boots from the cdrom (or floppy, same result) and after > > selecting > > language, then customised install I have to pick from server, normal etc. > > When I do this I get a message flashed on the screen for about 1 second > > "Please wait, configuring IDE". This message goes and my machine locks > up, > > no response to keyboard or mouse, even Crl-Alt Del wont work. Reset is > the > > only answer. > > > > I have looked in the archives but I seem to be the only one with install > > hangs!! > > > > Anyone any suggestions?? > > > > Rod > > >> > > >> > > >
Re: [newbie] video card problem
I just tried another trio card (I have three..) same problem. But the matrox works OK. My motherboard is an Aopen ax63pro. Uses the Apollo 133 chipset. I also asked Mandrake. It will be interesting to see what they say. Regads,Rod - Original Message - From: "stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] video card problem > yes i have a agp port as well on the mother board > stephen > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Rod Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] video card problem > > > > Only problem with that theory is that RedHat and Caldera work OK, and I > > tried the card in three different slots as well. Does your motherboard > have > > an AGP slot as well? > > > > The video card could have a problem I guess, but its all pretty strange! > > > > Regards,Rod > > - Original Message - > > From: stephen > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:54 PM > > Subject: [newbie] video card problem > > > > > > i have no problems with my pci s3 tro v64 video card > > may be you pci slot on the mother board is damaged > > as mine works fine ok > > > > stephen galowski > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.198 / Virus Database: 95 - Release Date: 10/4/00 > > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.198 / Virus Database: 95 - Release Date: 10/4/00 > > > > >
Re: [newbie] Strange Behavior
A cobol programmer! I worked with mainframes for er...many years. Wonderful things and a lot more consisent (and reliable) than PC's Regards,Rod - Original Message - From: "A V Flinsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Strange Behavior >snip. > > I have had this happen to me. Usually it was after a power blip (fairly common > out where I am). Not enough of a transient to shutdown the system, just enough > to screw up a few memory locations. I now have a UPS and have not had a problem > since I got it. > > > -- > Alex > (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life) > > > >
Re: [newbie] video card problem
Only problem with that theory is that RedHat and Caldera work OK, and I tried the card in three different slots as well. Does your motherboard have an AGP slot as well? The video card could have a problem I guess, but its all pretty strange! Regards,Rod - Original Message - From: stephen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:54 PM Subject: [newbie] video card problem i have no problems with my pci s3 tro v64 video card may be you pci slot on the mother board is damaged as mine works fine ok stephen galowski --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.198 / Virus Database: 95 - Release Date: 10/4/00
Re: [newbie] install hangs with 7.1.
Gary, Solved the problem. I changed the video card to a matrox g200, which is on the supported list and it works OK. The card Iwas using was a trio v64 (S3) and is also on the supported list. I wonder if its the fact that I was not using the AGP slot but a PCI card and having an empty AGP slot?? Any ideas? RH and Caldera handle it ok, I think mandrake need to have a look. Regards,Rod - Original Message - From: "Rod Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] install hangs with 7.1. > Gary, > I bought the package (Linux Mandrake 7.1 complete)from the local software > shop and the bios virus is disabled. Since posting this email I have > elimated a few things. I had the motherboard with only the video card > installed, and as its a PCI s3 it should not be the cause of the problem. > The motherboard does use the Via Apollo chipset, and the hang will occurr > anytime linux probes the PCI bus. I ran through the expert install, and > anytime I answer yes to probling the PCI bus it dies. > I tried reseting my motherboard to defaults, still no different. I also > tried a 5GB drive which is only udma33, but still the same problem. I also > tried another motherboard, a 233MMX and it hangs as well. The only item I > havn't changed is the video card, which I will do, but as Red Hat works > fine, I don't expect it to be the video. > > I am fairly new to linux, however I know PC's fairly well incidentally. > > Regards,Rod > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:43 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie] install hangs with 7.1. > > > > Rod, > > What is the source of the Linux Mandrake CD you are using? Newbie > > recently discussed problems with installs hanging being caused from both > some > > bad ISO sources on the net (literally different file lengths), and from > > images not being downloaded as "binary." Do you have CMOS (motherboard > bios) > > based anti-virus protection enabled? -Gary- > > > > In a message dated 10/9/2000 1:56:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << My machine boots from the cdrom (or floppy, same result) and after > > selecting > > language, then customised install I have to pick from server, normal etc. > > When I do this I get a message flashed on the screen for about 1 second > > "Please wait, configuring IDE". This message goes and my machine locks > up, > > no response to keyboard or mouse, even Crl-Alt Del wont work. Reset is > the > > only answer. > > > > I have looked in the archives but I seem to be the only one with install > > hangs!! > > > > Anyone any suggestions?? > > > > Rod > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] install hangs with 7.1.
Gary, I bought the package (Linux Mandrake 7.1 complete)from the local software shop and the bios virus is disabled. Since posting this email I have elimated a few things. I had the motherboard with only the video card installed, and as its a PCI s3 it should not be the cause of the problem. The motherboard does use the Via Apollo chipset, and the hang will occurr anytime linux probes the PCI bus. I ran through the expert install, and anytime I answer yes to probling the PCI bus it dies. I tried reseting my motherboard to defaults, still no different. I also tried a 5GB drive which is only udma33, but still the same problem. I also tried another motherboard, a 233MMX and it hangs as well. The only item I havn't changed is the video card, which I will do, but as Red Hat works fine, I don't expect it to be the video. I am fairly new to linux, however I know PC's fairly well incidentally. Regards,Rod - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] install hangs with 7.1. > Rod, > What is the source of the Linux Mandrake CD you are using? Newbie > recently discussed problems with installs hanging being caused from both some > bad ISO sources on the net (literally different file lengths), and from > images not being downloaded as "binary." Do you have CMOS (motherboard bios) > based anti-virus protection enabled? -Gary- > > In a message dated 10/9/2000 1:56:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > << My machine boots from the cdrom (or floppy, same result) and after > selecting > language, then customised install I have to pick from server, normal etc. > When I do this I get a message flashed on the screen for about 1 second > "Please wait, configuring IDE". This message goes and my machine locks up, > no response to keyboard or mouse, even Crl-Alt Del wont work. Reset is the > only answer. > > I have looked in the archives but I seem to be the only one with install > hangs!! > > Anyone any suggestions?? > > Rod > >> > > > >
Re: [newbie] Samba, Wine And Other Languages
Also make sure you have 2.0.7 or higher if you are using win2k. Rod - Original Message - From: "M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Samba, Wine And Other Languages > Where do I go to post? > > > --- "olof.liungman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Julio, > > > > concerning Samba, start at www.samba.org. They also have a very good > > mailing > > list with a lot of gurus on it. > > > > Olof > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Julio Gutierrez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:05 AM > > Subject: [newbie] Samba, Wine And Other Languages > > > > > > > does anyone know exactly how to set samba up to work with a mixed > > environment > > > of win 2k and win98, or is there any resources where i can go and > > find out > > how > > > to do it, my second question is about wine too, it seems to be > > already > > > installed on my system but what do i do to make it work? any docs > > somewhere > > > that could be helpful, and lastly i need to email some of my > > friends and > > > colleagues in Japanese but i can't find a way to change my keyboard > > to > > make it > > > type Japanese characters,i even installed the locales jp and still > > cannot > > make > > > it work,and if I don't find a way to do this I will be forced to > > use a > > > monopolized operating system. > > > Well enough for now if anyone has answers for my > > > questions replies will be really appreciate,thanks in advance. > > > > > > Julio Gutierrez > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ > > Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 > > ___ > > > > > = > Michael > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > >
[newbie] install hangs with 7.1.
My machine boots from the cdrom (or floppy, same result) and after selecting language, then customised install I have to pick from server, normal etc. When I do this I get a message flashed on the screen for about 1 second "Please wait, configuring IDE". This message goes and my machine locks up, no response to keyboard or mouse, even Crl-Alt Del wont work. Reset is the only answer. My machine is a celeron 300, aopen AX63pro motherboard, 128 MB ram Two quantum 20GB disks, one on the primary of each IDE port, and a Sony CDROM on the secondary of the secondary IDE port. The network is a D-Link card, and the video is a Trio S3 PCI card with 4MG. (not AGP) I believe the hardware is OK, RedHat 6.2 and Caldera 2.3 and windows will load onto this machine OK. Only problem is Mandrake 7.1. I have tried removing all partitions on the two disks, and have also tried with a small dos partition on each. I have looked in the archives but I seem to be the only one with install hangs!! Anyone any suggestions?? Rod
