Re: [newbie] crash tests....
Yep, a general rule of thumb I learned at college was that if you accessed a byte of data from memory, and it took one second, it would take over a week to do the same from disk!! - Original Message - From: Steve Philp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] crash tests Josh McCaffrey wrote: > sometimes several seconds to do anything. If I have 60ns EDO RAM, what > would disk swapping be comparable to? Well, typical disk accesses are around 10ms is I remember correctly... -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] crash tests....
>From a Unix point of view, you can normally have 255 X sessions of whatever type open at the same time, so head for that if you want. It should be reasonably easy to write a short shell script to spawn an infinite number of windows, record the count somewhere, and when (if) it crashes, you can go back to the log and see how many windows were open when it crashed. A common one, again for Unix but should be transferrable to Linux, is to open many sessions using the 'top' command in each. Top displays a real time monitor of the top ten processes running, and can be an effective load testing tool, as it doesn't do anything to the system, it just watches. However, you may find you're chasing something that doesn't exist. If the reliability is anything like what I've seen so far, you will never see it crash, it will just get slower and slower, until it seems to stop. - Original Message - From: Josh McCaffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 7:41 AM Subject: [newbie] crash tests I had to do it. After having been a Linux user for ~month, I had to do the CRASH TEST on my system. Opening multiple netscape windows should be an easy way to crash a system, right? Right now, I've opened 12 navigator windows, 1 composer window, messenger, Kpackage, Font manager, system information (memory),2 text editors, Mahjongg, CD player, 2 KFM's, and 2 Konsole's, Kppp, and of course, this window here :-) Question: What would be a tougher test? 27 windows seems like alot, but it doesn't seem to be doing too much. Maybe since most of these windows aren't really doing anything but waiting? My free swap is at 52.68/96.43MB's and I still have 1.4/48mb's of free RAM. We'll see what I can do to crash my box... Not that I want to crash my box, just have to see how far I can push it. I'm not blessed w/ a newer, post '97 system w/ a fat HD and tons of RAM w/ a 300+mhz CPU. Later... -Josh
Re: [newbie] Win95 modem connect to Linux
Just perhaps stating the obvious, but don't you have to tell Linux to pick up receiving calls, as the normal setup is to dial out? - Original Message - From: Bill Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 4:30 PM Subject: [newbie] Win95 modem connect to Linux Hello all: The Win95 setup: Dialup networking using 'Slip: Unix connection', log onto network, TCP/IP' or'PPP, Windows95, Windows NT 3.5, Internet', log ontonetwork, enable software compression, TCP/IP' TCP/IP settings: specified IP address, specified name server address, use IP header compression, Use default gateway on remote network. no scripting. The Linux box: /etc/resolv.conf contains 'search ' nameserver ' The modem reaches my ISP. The phone dials from Win95 and I can see it ringing on my other line but the Linux box never answers. I must be missing some configuration setting but can't determine where. Isn't PPP/SLIP/PLIP on the Linux box for outgoing connections? Thanks for any help Bill Barnes This e-mail has been sent to you courtesy of OperaMail, a free web-based service from Opera Software, makers of the award-winning Web Browser - http://www.operasoftware.com
Re: [newbie] background
>From Unix, it's just a case of putting an ampersand after the command to move it to the background. I have not tried it for Linux. - Original Message - From: padlocke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 12:06 AM Subject: [newbie] background Fellas... What in tarnation is the command line switch that runs an application in the background? Thanks ya'll :) *sorry about that... I'm working on my southern dialect* PadLocke the Ogre OOOooo... there's a new Voyager on tonight :):)
Re: [newbie] Netscape and error with the time
What timestamp are you referring to? The timestamps tend to be affected by your mail server, as well as your own clock. For example, people here are very impressed that I'm often at work until 1 or 2 in the morning, it's only when I tell them that the email service I use is US based that they realise I'm really a very lazy person!!! - Original Message - From: Mark Wagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 12:07 AM Subject: [newbie] Netscape and error with the time Hi all, I just installed Mandrake 6.1. I started to write a couple email messages, and after sending them, I noticed that the time in the Date field is off by like 8 hours. My system time is correct (and not set to GMT). What gives? Does anyone have any ideas, or have this problem too? tia Mark
Re: [Fwd: [newbie] SO51 save/backup -- Solved! (mostly)]
The olny thing I can suggest is to take a look at where the backup is going, and see if a similar priviledges problem is occuring. It may not be anywhere on the SO directory structure, or your own directory structure. (Perhaps /tmp or /temp for example). Try running StarOffice from Root, backup a file, and look where it's putting them. - Original Message - From: Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Helios-New <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 11:53 AM Subject: [Fwd: [newbie] SO51 save/backup -- Solved! (mostly)] Dear Axalon: Thanks so much for the suggestion, but I am unsure what I should actually do. Should I add "cp -a" somewhere in StarOffice? I know I can always just copy the file in xterm and backup manually. But why in the world would StarOffice now save perfectly but not do a backup? Any idea? Benjamin Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > > have a look at "man cp" in particular the -a option > > -- > MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ > --Axalon -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [[newbie] Macmillan Mandrake Books (was Mouse Driver screwup in KDE)]
You can also turn off the ability to receive an echo of your own posts, check the instructions on the linux mandrake page. - Original Message - From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [[newbie] Macmillan Mandrake Books (was Mouse Driver screwup in KDE)] On Sat, 27 Nov 1999,Mark Fitzgerald wrote: | Hello, | | I've sent to post to the list and neither have come back down. | | Just a test message and the other an intro. | | I'm sending them to the address below. | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | Mark Fitzgerald | | So, I'm trying a reply this time. | | (Any ideas on why I'm not seeing them?) | | Thanks! | | Mark Fitzgerald | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | - Original Message - | From: Alex V Flinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: November 27, 1999 10:21 PM | Subject: Re: [[newbie] Macmillan Mandrake Books (was Mouse Driver | screwup in KDE)] | | | > On Sat, 27 Nov 1999, you wrote: | > > This is probably outdated by, I'm late getting to my backlog of | email. | > > It's been my experience in reading books from Que and Sams that | they contain | > > a lot of typos and misleading if not to say incorrect information. | Perhaps they | > > have better publishers now, but I don't really care for them. | > | > My experience with sams has been highly varied. Some books are great | and | > accurate, others are pure cr*p. There seems to be no middle ground | on their | > publications. | > | > | > > just one geek's opinion. | > | > just another's | > | > | > -- | > Alex It can take a while for your posts to come back to you, just be patient, and welcome to Linux. -- Ernie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The measure of a man is in his honor ...
Re: [newbie] Retriving files in windoze via Linux
All sessions need to be out of the drive before you can unmount it. In the session where you're working, head for the root directory, or type cd /. Then try the unmount again. If it still doesn't work, see what else could be looking in there. - Original Message - From: David Loke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Retriving files in windoze via Linux Hi Thanks a lot. It works for me. However when I want to umount it, it always says that the device is busy. Why is that so? -Original Message- From: Alan Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, November 25, 1999 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Retriving files in windoze via Linux >Davidhere's one way how (as root): > >1. create a new subdirectory /mnt/c-drive >2. add the below line to your /etc/fstab file > >/dev/hdXY /mnt/c-drivevfatnoauto,user >0 0 > >(hdX must be the windows drive and Y is the partition number) > >3. in the console mode type: mount -t vfat /dev/hdXY /mnt/c-drive > >Alan > > >David Loke wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I read on Linux Mandrake website that its possible to get files from my >> windoze partition from Linux . How can I do that? I am not able to see my >> windoze directories from Linux file manager. What kind of software should I >> use? >> >> Rgds >
Re: [newbie] changing partition table....
Re: Cache size. Basically, the more the better. For an example, price up the intel Xeon chips, you'll find a 256K cache Xeon is about a tenth of a 1Mb Xeon. You will see a performance increase, but you may then hit other bottlenecks, like your main memory speed, and the IDE interface to your hard drives. Owning a PC is a very expensive business, it's difficult to upgrade one item without upgrading another, and soon you're on a spiralling course to an empty bank acocunt. Or piggybank, if thats your thing ;-) - Original Message - From: Josh McCaffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 5:09 PM Subject: [newbie] changing partition table I've been following the thread about appropriate partitions under Linux, and I'm still not sure what would be appropriate for my uses. I'm running a P133, 48M RAM, 1.6G HD and I'm the primary user on the system. My mom does wordproccessing, and my brother doesn't do much at all. I'm getting a bigger HD around Xmas and some more memory. What about the cache sixe? It's a 256k pipeline -burst, would I get any more performance out of a 512? Oh yeah, about the partitions... Currently I've got 2, one for swap at 50mb and the rest for / . How could I change the partion table w/o going back through the install process? What's the purpose of the /home partition? Please tell me there's some way to change my partitions w/o reinstalling again. -Josh
Re: [newbie] A little OT- Memory
I have to say the local (UK) version of pricewatch is woefully short on providing a decent comparison, it sometimes even quotes the wrong prices!! I find there's no substitute for doing the legwork. Having said that, I check Insight daily, as their 128M memory has been dropping over the last few weeks. - Original Message - From: David van Balen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 2:58 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] A little OT- Memory On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, pete moss wrote: > Eric Mings wrote: > > > > If anyone has suggestions for places to find the best prices on memory > > upgrades that I can use for my PIII 450 linux box I would appreciate it. > > I am going to be using it as a server and need at least PC100 128 meg > > chips (though I would like to buy 256 if I could find an affordable > > source). I have looked at several mainstream mailorder places and prices > > vary widely. Y'all can email me directly if you think this is not of > > general interest to others. Thanks much. > > > > Regards, > > > > Eric Mings Ph.D. > > > as was recommended to me the other day, check pricewatch.com. i just > ordered a new processor and memory for much less than the price of other > sources. good shopping! > > :P > hmmm... just the other day I saw a 128mb dimm on hardwarestreet.com for $230 or so. I believe that's less than what I saw on pricewatch... DvB
Re: [Re: [newbie] Install problems...]
No, my Linux box is also a desktop, and it doesn't support ATAPI devices, which is why I do what I do! BTW, I have actually researched connectivity for my laptop IDE interface, apart from the size, my laptop IDE interface is the same as standard!! I'm tempted to wire up a conector and give it a go! - Original Message - From: Jaguar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] Install problems...] WOW...your desktop ( tower ) PC supports a LAPTOP IDE interface I am impressed. Jaguar "Simon Norris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Couple of suggestions; > 2. This is the method I use on my machine, a variation may work on yours. As > I haven't got access to a CD-ROM on my Linux box, I physically take the hard > drive over to my main machine, and copy the files onto a FAT16 partition on > the hard drive. I then take it back, and install from hard drive. I can then > delete this install partition. > What I'm basically suggesting is to use DOS/Windows or similar to load a > partition from the Linux CD-ROM (If you're short on disk space, you only > need the RPMS folder), then boot from floppy and install from hard drive. If > DOS can see your backpack CD-ROM, boot from a DOS floppy with the CD-ROM > plugged in the back. Or use a DOS floppy to get the hard drive partition > bootable, boot with the CD-ROM in place, and copy the files from there. > - Original Message - > From: Michael D. Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 8:48 PM > Subject: [newbie] Install problems... > > > I have a WinBook Laptop computer and I am trying to figure out how to > install Mandrake RH6.0. > > I can not get the computer to recognize the CD-ROM drive. > > Here is what is going on... > > 1. I insert the removable floppy drive and boot from the boot disk. > 2. When I get to the point where it asks me to pick which cd-rom drive > to use, I remove the floppy drive and insert the cd-rom drive with the > CD #1 in it. > 3. I went through the entire list for CD-ROM drivers and it can not > find the cd-rom. > 4. It is not SCSI. > > I have an external CD-ROM drive as well that hooks up to the parallel > port as well. I tried it and it can not be found. The CD-ROM is a > "Backpack". > > I tried Fdisk the hard drive and copied the 9 files from the boot disk > to it to see if it may be a problem from swapping the CD-Rom with the > Floppy drive. I can not get it to boot from the hard drive. I fdisked > the hard drive using DOS 6.0 fdisk utility and formatted it. I copied > the boot disk to the hard drive and it would not boot from the hard > drive. > > I just need to install Apache web server and X-Windows so I can show off > a working copy of my web site when I am on the road. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Uninstalling Linux
Been there, done that!! I had fun with this after a crashed install, because I couldn't remove the partition, and couldn't get back in to use Linux fdisk!! I didn't have a rescue disk either. Fdisk on Windows can see the Linux extended partition, as an extended partition seems to be the same under any OS, but it couldn't see the ext2 partitions inside the extended partition, so couldn't delete them, and generated the error messages you're seeing. The thing I did have was Partition Magic on Windows. Although it didn't know what the partitions were, it did delete them pretty thoroughly. If you haven't got Partition Magic, see if you can get hold of an evaluation copy for a short time. Of course, you could always go the drastic route and low level format your drive. Go on, live dangerously!! - Original Message - From: Lionel Barrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 2:26 AM Subject: [newbie] Uninstalling Linux Hey guys, my question is: how exactly do you uninstall Red Hat 6.1. I tried creating a win98 boot disk, booting it and running fdisk /mbr but all that did was give win98 back control of the booting sequence. I tried using fdisk to delete the partition but it said that logical drives were in existence. When I tried to delete this logical drive, it said none were there. I tried again to delete the extended partition but still with no luck. How can I take Red Hat off completely. I have another 1 gig drive now that I want to put Mandrake 6.1 one on so I wanna blank my 3.2 gig hd to put win98 on and then put M 6.1 on the 1 gig. How do I get Red HAT off???! Thanks in advance Lionel
Re: [newbie] smp questions
I would also add to the other coments here that cheap is not good. I have a friend here who swears by the prices of PCChips boards, and then swears at them when he comes to set them up!!! My personal recommendation is ABIT, they work very well, and don't use jumpers. The setup is virtually automatic, so is very easy. And they usually support AGP, PCI, and ISA, although newer boards have less ISA slots than most people would like. Oh, and they are an overclockers dream, as you can tweak speeds and voltage settings through the GUI. It only takes a quick reset on the motherboard if you totally screw things up. And they are only usually 10-20 pounds dearer than the cheaper ones. I believe the processors can be different speeds, but the faster one will be brought down to the speed of the slower one, so it's a bit pointless. I can't recommend any prices matching places, as I've always found something that is apparently cheap, gone to one of the supposedly more expensive websites, and found they've matched the price with free delivery! There's no better way than actually doing the legwork and checking out what they have directly. - Original Message - From: pete moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 4:07 AM Subject: [newbie] smp questions i have in mind doing some system hardware upgrades, one of the things that i am thinking about upgrading is my processor. i currently have a PII 350. my motherboard can support up to a 450. i am also considering getting a smp motherboard and a second chip. is there a good cheap motherboard that supports this, as well as agp, isa, and pci? do the two processors need to be the same speed? also, is there a better place to compare prices than cnet.com? tia :P
Re: [newbie] DOS ?
Just a positive word here, yes it is possible to do it. But no, I don't know how. My Kingston ethernet cards came with a DOS based program designed to make DOS networking work, but I haven't felt the need to try it yet. It looks similar to a 'drive mapping' kind of idea, but not quite, if you know what I mean. Let me know offline (home email in cc) if you don't get what you need, and I'll give it a go, and tell you what happens. Good luck! - Original Message - From: jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 4:42 PM Subject: [newbie] DOS ? Hello all. Well I'm back at setting up more things for the network. My next question and or adventure is. Can I use Dos to get into the network? I have a few dos programs we would like to be file served on the network. Any suggestions ? Jeff
Re: [newbie] Linux and bios\harddrive settings
The first thing I can suggest is set it to LBA and leave it there, Linux doesn't like Normal or large. Leave UDMA active, although if it is UDMA 66 (I have no idea what UDMA 2 is, I've only seen UDMA 33 and UDMA 66), you may have to go back through the mailing list archives to get some more info, there was a thread some time ago, with some people having very bizarre results with it. If it's UDMA 33, leave it. My Maxtor is fine with it. I would check the partitioning info you're giving it, are you starting with a completely blank drive, or a blank area of the drive? Are you sure it's blank? I have seen a very strange occurence of Linux being installed onto a DOS extended partition, it went on, but it wouldn't come back off. We had to do a low level format to get rid of it, it even defeated Partition Magic!! Apart from that, the IDE controller and the master/slave option is entirely up to you, primary master is a good choice. And finally, have oyu used the hard drive before, do you know it is OK? Try a Windows install or something similar, just to prove it. - Original Message - From: ATL Oledog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 5:44 AM Subject: [newbie] Linux and bios\harddrive settings Does anyone know what the particuliars are if any for hard drives and linux... I have purchased a new motherboard and have a 4.2gb Ultra DMA 2 Maxtor hard drive spec 8184cyl 16hd 63sec. I have set it up using Large, LBA, and Normal bios settings. I have it jumpered to master. and it is on the primary ide controller. i have tried disabling Ultra DMA 2 and set it pio 2. on all of the settings the following happens first it hangs during the initial boot up after installation at the part where mounts the hard drive and says" this is not a linux native" and then it says "resetting hard" and it continues to load as normal. The system will run fine but if you do a shut down and halt, after the services are halted it produces a bunch of messages speaking of kernel dumps and errors. I have also tried a 2gb hd and had the same results. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] Hardware recommendations
My own experience has left me with a logitech mouse and a Diamond Supraexpress 56E (External modem). Both were set up without any hassle. - Original Message - From: Mrs. Karen Heiby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 8:24 AM Subject: [newbie] Hardware recommendations I would like to get a new external modem and a PS/2 mouse, OR an internal modem and a PS/2 mouse (that's how my system has to be set up). I would appreciate anyone's brand name recommendations for the least hassle getting these to work in Linux-Mandrake. Thanks! Karen __ My greatest fear in life is that no-one will remember me after I'm dead. - some dead guy
Re: [newbie] executing programs
sh is the common execution syntax used to execute a shell script, not a C program. Shell scripts are text based programs similar to DOS batch files, which accounts for your 'cannot execute binary file' message. The syntax Mike has provided here allow all users to execute all programs including compiled C programs, if you want to allow only yourself or your group execution rights, you will need to alter the +x. - Original Message - From: Morrell, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 4:32 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] executing programs chmod +x filename -Original Message- From: M L Cates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 2:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] executing programs I am trying to learn how to do some C programming and my question is this: How do I execute the program after it is compiled? I have tried typing the name of the program in at the prompt and it says "command not found". I have tried to type "sh" before the filename and am told "cannot execute binary file". Any help would be appreciated, also, what does the "sh" before a filename do? M L Cates
Re: [newbie] What is the closest Linux shell to Unix Ksh?
Thanks for the info, I'll give it a go. The only thing I've got to figure out is where on the hard drive I put the RPM's, as my motherboard IDE connections don't support CD-ROM, I had to install from hard drive!! As a thought, I have network visiblity of a win95 machine, that does have CD-ROM. If I mount the drive on Linux properly, would there be any problems running rpm through a samba connection? - Original Message - From: Steve Philp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] What is the closest Linux shell to Unix Ksh? Simon Norris wrote: > > I don't remember it on the install, what would be the easiest way of adding > it as a post-install task? Is it RPM'ed for example? > > I suppose the obvious thing for me to do would be to simply try and change > my shell to pdksh, and see if it works? > > Simon Norris wrote: > > > > I'd like to refresh my Unix scripting knowledge, but I have no access to > > pure Unix boxes now, so I need to practise on my own linux machine. Which > > shell should I use to get the best response from Korn shell scripts? > > I believe pdksh ships with Mandrake. Put the CD in the drive, mount /mnt/cdrom cd /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS rpm -Uvh pdksh* cd /etc vi passwd # change the portion that reads # /bin/bash to /bin/ksh exit relogin and you should be in ksh! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] What is the closest Linux shell to Unix Ksh?
I don't remember it on the install, what would be the easiest way of adding it as a post-install task? Is it RPM'ed for example? I suppose the obvious thing for me to do would be to simply try and change my shell to pdksh, and see if it works? - Original Message - From: Steve Philp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] What is the closest Linux shell to Unix Ksh? Simon Norris wrote: > > I'd like to refresh my Unix scripting knowledge, but I have no access to > pure Unix boxes now, so I need to practise on my own linux machine. Which > shell should I use to get the best response from Korn shell scripts? I believe pdksh ships with Mandrake. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] install to primary slave hanging
The numbers you are seeing is the progress of a ext2 type format, the numbers reference the location on the disk of the superblock copies that are made during an ext2 format, one for each cylinder group. If my maths seves me right, it is saying that it has finished a 2 Gig partition format (4096001*512 bytes). If you say you're aiming for a 4 gig partition, you've got a problem. It should carry on to just over 800. - Original Message - From: Gregg Carrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] install to primary slave hanging >What is the absolute LAST line on Alt-F5? It should be something about >"accounting information". If it is, wait it out. It will write "done" >when it's done writing the final information to the partition. The last two lines of alt F5 follow, though if this is any help it will suprise me: 3989505, 3997697, 4005889, 4014081, 4022273, 4030465, 4038657, 4046849 4055041, 4063233, 4071425, 4079617, 4087809, 4096001 ...and that's it. It doesn't change. I know a lot of folks have proposed that it's a big disk and it'll take a while, but I really don't think it's the case. There is an initial spin of the CD, silence, a second CD spin about 30 seconds later and then indefinite silence. There is no disk noise at all. I'm about to run the install again now and I'll really let it go and time it. >I take it hdb6 is the 4G partition? What are you doing with the rest of >the 20G? Correct...and I don't know what I'll do with it. I need some of the drive accessible by Windows. My understanding is that Linux can access Windows filesystems?
[newbie] What is the closest Linux shell to Unix Ksh?
I'd like to refresh my Unix scripting knowledge, but I have no access to pure Unix boxes now, so I need to practise on my own linux machine. Which shell should I use to get the best response from Korn shell scripts?
Re: [newbie] SQL on Linux
http://torresoft.netmegs.com/ This is an online SQL tutorial that takes you through the SQL language. It is not Linux specific, but then again, hardly any SQL is, it's the program using SQL that is platform dependant. The only platform specifics for SQL were relating to Microsoft products, they seem to have invented their own convention!! This site actually allows you to perform SQL on an online database, and it's very good, without having to soil your own machine with any garbage. I presonally cannot say enough for Oracle on Linux, or indeed any other platform. It's just an absolutely top product! Head over to http://technet.oracle.com and see what you think yourself, with a free license for development use. If you need any more SQL help, email me. - Original Message - From: Petey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 1:27 AM Subject: [newbie] SQL on Linux Does anyone know of a good online SQL tutorial for a db novice regarding linux specifically? Should I be looking toward MySQL or is there another Linux SQL package that is worth investing time in? Thanks for any direction. Jason Peterson
Re: [newbie] linux & games, and when will they fix the address book?
Your best bet for old games from the arcade is MAME, it's well worth the look. Head over to http://xmame.retrogames.com - Original Message - From: Guillermo Belli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 1999 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] linux & games, and when will they fix the address book? I think we won't see the 'real good' games for Linux until we have 3D acceleration other than 3dfx for our beloved OS. If you want to play in Linux anyway yuo can get a game console emulator, like SNES9X. It rocks, and you'll find ROMs everywhere. If interested, go to www.snes9x.com. If you want ROMs, my ICQ # is 38321312. El sáb, 23 oct 1999, escribiste: > On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, you wrote: > > On the loki side, Railroad Tycon II is on its way. Theyre also continuing > > their alliance with Activision and have plans to port Heretic II and Heavy Gear > > II as well. > > > I saw HereticII at ALS a weekend or so ago It rocked! :-) I'm > going to have to give up this video card and get a 3d card, I > think... :-) > John
Re: [newbie]
Rather than spend a fortune buying books, head over to; http://www.informit.com/ They currently have in their range three Linux books, which you can read online, completely free. Go through them and see what you think. They also do have lots of other books for all sorts of computer related stuff, highly recommended. Simon - Original Message - From: Joseph S. Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ibi wrote: > Hello, > > I'm so new I haven't even loaded Linux; I've never seen a Linux screen > and I don't know one command. When you pick yourself up off the floor I > have one question. I've decided on Mandrake based on the strength of > support. Where do I go to begin to learn the raw basics? My goal is to > have a pure Linux box. > > Thanks, > > Pj Go to the nearest computer, login to the internet, visit http://www.cheapbytes.com or http://www.linuxmall.com and pick up a disk. Just load and have fun. There is no substitute for making mistakes (oops, I mean experience) 8-). Don't expect to become an expert except for reinstallation but that's part of the fun. You could spend a fortune buying books but I wouldn't recommend that yet until you've got an idea what you want to do with your new-found freedom from M$-ware. Many people recommend ORieley books but I find them a little intimidating for a novice, you might wish to consider a Dummies book as a place to start your soon to be expanding Linux library. After that start looking at http://www.mandrakeuser.org for good basics. I have also found good info regarding the file structure at http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.0/fhs-toc.html and http://www.infocom.cqu.edu.au/Units/aut99/85321/Resources/Print_Resources/Te xtbook/chap4/index.html. Just a start and I'm sure others will add to this but I gotta go ( go figure, work actually wants me to DO something other than play here ). Good luck and feel free to ask questions, that's why every one's here. Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] FTP install...
Telnet may not be installed by default. I have had to copy it from another machine occasionally to get it available. I have heard mention that it's not installed as part of one of the 95 OSR versions, other people say it's not installed unless you install a network adaptor (Ethernet or dial up), and install a protocol (TCP/IP seems to be the consensus of opinion). Whatever the case, when I couldn't find it, it was a case of just going to the web, and searching for it. If you want a prettier one, then places like zdnet have got lots of different versions. Take your pick. Although if you ever find one that can support transparent backgrounds, (inspired by an X windows screen grab of Linux!) let me know. - Original Message - From: Ty Mixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 5:41 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] FTP install... Telnet should be in the windows directory. Hyperterminal may not be installed by default. Hyper is a bit more flexible I think. To get telnet to run this usually works: Start: Run: type telnet: OK -- Ty Mixon e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 26147713 >> Original Message << On 10/19/99, 7:32:21 PM, Aaron deRozario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding RE: [newbie] FTP install...: > I'd certainly believe it - just can't find it on my windows machine, or in > the windows help. Doesn't matter if I ever feel the urge to use it I'll > find it. > Aaron > > -Original Message- > > From: John Aldrich [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 9:23 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:RE: [newbie] FTP install... > > > > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, you wrote: > > > Just out of interest - what is the telnet client included in windows > > called? > > > > > Would you believe "telnet" :-) > > John
Fw: [newbie] Items of interest
And I forgot to mention, it's open to the rest of the world, not just US like the red hat signup!! - Original Message - From: Simon Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Items of interest As an exponent of the Oracle suite, you might also like to know that all of the Linux Oracle products, including 8i and their web server, are available if you join the Oracle Technet. If anyone is interested in the slightest in getting Oracle products, it is well worth signing up. The products are either available on CD, or downloadable straight from the site, for those of you with fast connections (Most are actually available as split files, for slower connections). The licenses are all development single user licenses. Well worth every penny of download costs, or in the case of CD, the media costs!! For those of you NT owners, there is an equivalent Oracle suite for you there aswell. The additional support (newsgroups, sample code, etc) is also very well maintained. Head over to http://technet.oracle.com for more info. - Original Message - From: Jeanette Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Items of interest Sam wrote: > > If any of you are planning on doing some web business with a linux > server, you might be interested in this. > > Go to the red hat site and register w/ red hat .com for their mailing > list. You can then sign up to have a full blown copy of Oracle8i mailed > to you for free. > > Also, HP is offerring openmail for linux for a free 6 month trial. after > that if you only have a small # of users, you can get an open ended > extension on the licence. Of course, you don't get any manuals or > support w/ the freebie. > > Sam No matter what I do to try to join this it gives me an error message or says the name is already in use. I tried like 20 names and weird names so I know thats not the case. Jeanette
Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML
It's actually Outlook Express 5, the one that's attached to IE 5, rather than Office. - Original Message - From: Ken Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 2:05 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML What version of Outlook are you using? I have Outlook 98 and that option is not present. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael R. Batchelor Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 6:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML >All of the settings I have refer to plain text, so my question is, does >Outlook have a mind of it's own, as most Microsoft products do? Does it >inherit the format from the post I am replying to? Yes. Under tools options send There is a check box second from the bottom about replying in the format the sender used. Deselect the choice.
Re: [newbie] Items of interest
As an exponent of the Oracle suite, you might also like to know that all of the Linux Oracle products, including 8i and their web server, are available if you join the Oracle Technet. If anyone is interested in the slightest in getting Oracle products, it is well worth signing up. The products are either available on CD, or downloadable straight from the site, for those of you with fast connections (Most are actually available as split files, for slower connections). The licenses are all development single user licenses. Well worth every penny of download costs, or in the case of CD, the media costs!! For those of you NT owners, there is an equivalent Oracle suite for you there aswell. The additional support (newsgroups, sample code, etc) is also very well maintained. Head over to http://technet.oracle.com for more info. - Original Message - From: Jeanette Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Items of interest Sam wrote: > > If any of you are planning on doing some web business with a linux > server, you might be interested in this. > > Go to the red hat site and register w/ red hat .com for their mailing > list. You can then sign up to have a full blown copy of Oracle8i mailed > to you for free. > > Also, HP is offerring openmail for linux for a free 6 month trial. after > that if you only have a small # of users, you can get an open ended > extension on the licence. Of course, you don't get any manuals or > support w/ the freebie. > > Sam No matter what I do to try to join this it gives me an error message or says the name is already in use. I tried like 20 names and weird names so I know thats not the case. Jeanette
Fw: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML
Not to worry, I found my problem. FYI, there is an option in Outlook, 'reply to messages in the format in which they were sent' , which when checked, inherits the original poster's format. Selecting the plain text option is not enough. The post I was replying to was HTML without my knowledge. - Original Message ----- From: Simon Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML Just a quick query, not really suited to this group, but necessary just the same. I have been using Outlook for some time now, and have had no problems sending plain text. Unfortunately, I have just sent a post to this group, and got a courteous comment directly to me asking for me to drop my HTML. All of the settings I have refer to plain text, so my question is, does Outlook have a mind of it's own, as most Microsoft products do? Does it inherit the format from the post I am replying to? The way I have Outlook is that there is no visible difference between plain text and HTML, so whenever I see someone ask for HTML to be dropped, I haven't got a clue whats going on!! I would like to add my assistance to this group, as they have given me lots of ideas for things to do and I'd like to give something back, however I have no intention of receiving a similar flurry of comments as Donny did, for sending HTML (Although he did give as good as he got!!). As far as the comments about filtering HTML, that would be useful for us poor sods stuck with Outlook, who don't even know whether they're sending plain text or HTML!! Thanks for your generous assistance. Simon - Original Message - From: Eric Mings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML >Based on the number of "remove" requests posted to the list, the >actual number of people who actually *READ* the welcome message is >probably quite small. Thus, the chances of the "Nettiquette" tutorial >having any effect is negligible. However, if it saved us ONE post in >HTML, I suppose it'd be worth it, and it wouldn't be that much >trouble, as it would automatically go out with the 'welcome' >message... just create that "nettiquette" tutorial once and it would >go out automatically from there. :-) > John There is another solution if the list owner chose to implement it. Although I am relatively new to linux, I have run large volumn discussions lists for several years. We have implemented a filter on our lists that rejects all attempts to send attachements to the list, and ALSO _rejects_ all HTML formatted email. Works great! Put the guidlines in the welcome message and let them figure out themselves why none of their postings make it to the list if they choose to ignore the guidlines. If they contact the list manager about it, I tell them what the problem is and how to fix it. FWIW I would also recommend that whoever is running this list take a more visible and active approach in dealing with list problems so that members don't feel they need to fight out the issues on the list that should be delt with by the list manager. Regards, Eric Mings Ph.D.
Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML
Just a quick query, not really suited to this group, but necessary just the same. I have been using Outlook for some time now, and have had no problems sending plain text. Unfortunately, I have just sent a post to this group, and got a courteous comment directly to me asking for me to drop my HTML. All of the settings I have refer to plain text, so my question is, does Outlook have a mind of it's own, as most Microsoft products do? Does it inherit the format from the post I am replying to? The way I have Outlook is that there is no visible difference between plain text and HTML, so whenever I see someone ask for HTML to be dropped, I haven't got a clue whats going on!! I would like to add my assistance to this group, as they have given me lots of ideas for things to do and I'd like to give something back, however I have no intention of receiving a similar flurry of comments as Donny did, for sending HTML (Although he did give as good as he got!!). As far as the comments about filtering HTML, that would be useful for us poor sods stuck with Outlook, who don't even know whether they're sending plain text or HTML!! Thanks for your generous assistance. Simon - Original Message - From: Eric Mings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML >Based on the number of "remove" requests posted to the list, the >actual number of people who actually *READ* the welcome message is >probably quite small. Thus, the chances of the "Nettiquette" tutorial >having any effect is negligible. However, if it saved us ONE post in >HTML, I suppose it'd be worth it, and it wouldn't be that much >trouble, as it would automatically go out with the 'welcome' >message... just create that "nettiquette" tutorial once and it would >go out automatically from there. :-) > John There is another solution if the list owner chose to implement it. Although I am relatively new to linux, I have run large volumn discussions lists for several years. We have implemented a filter on our lists that rejects all attempts to send attachements to the list, and ALSO _rejects_ all HTML formatted email. Works great! Put the guidlines in the welcome message and let them figure out themselves why none of their postings make it to the list if they choose to ignore the guidlines. If they contact the list manager about it, I tell them what the problem is and how to fix it. FWIW I would also recommend that whoever is running this list take a more visible and active approach in dealing with list problems so that members don't feel they need to fight out the issues on the list that should be delt with by the list manager. Regards, Eric Mings Ph.D.
Re: [newbie] ADSL and DHCP and Linux, oh my...
Depends on where you go, I have seen a CD and license (green patterned thingy) of Windows NT workstation for £40 GBP at a computer fair, about the same price as my Mandrake package!! - Original Message - From: Rendus Maiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL and DHCP and Linux, oh my... Scrap the Linux-Mandrake and get yourself RedHat. Once it's installed, you'll notice that, at boot, eth0 won't fail. Once that's done, open a console and type "dhcpcd -DH" and that should get your information. I actually paid for Linux-Mandrake, but I got Redhat for free from a mag. And I constabtly use Win95 and NT for everything. I also disagree that only linux is for people who want to "know" their machines. I find NT the best overall OS, even though it's more expensive. >From: "Ernie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL and DHCP and Linux, oh my... >Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:14:47 -0400 > >Sorry, I don't know anything about ADSL as yet, but your last remark needed >a response! It is true that Windoze is easier to set up than Linux. It is >designed for people who are not interested in the computer, but only the >things the computer can do. Linux on the other hand is designed by computer >users, for computer users who want to know a little about what goes on on >the inside. It is quite difficult to master, and is not for the faint of >heart. The truth of the matter is that if you want easy, use Windoze, but >if you want power, and are willing to work for it, use Linux. The rewards >will be greater understanding of your computer, greater stability on the >OS, and more power in your hands. For myself ( also a new Linux user ) the >learning curve is well worth the effort. > >Ernie > > > - Original Message - > From: David E. Metzener > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:23 AM > Subject: [newbie] ADSL and DHCP and Linux, oh my... > > > I have been trying to get Linux to see the internet. I have ADSL that >was working fine for Windows, and now, when I try to get Linux to see the >internet, I get this error: > > Determining IP information for eth0...Operation failed. > > The 'pump' command is the one failing. I have tried all the suggestions >that I can in the mini-howto for DHCP. It still doesn't work. My ISP >isn't much help, they tell me that they don't support Linux yet, but here >is what has worked for others: > > IP Address: Obtain from server automatically > WINS configuration: DHCP > IP Gateway or default router: Leave blank or (0.0.0.0) > Host: (YOUR userID) > IP Network Class: C > IP Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 > Default Domain: swbell.net > DNS Server: > If you cannot select "Server Assigned Name Server", > then select the following: > Primary DNS: 151.164.1.8 > Secondary DNS: 151.164.1.7 > > > I tried that too, I wasn't using my userID as my hostname. However, >that also didn't work. > > I am just hoping that others here that have set up their Linux with ADSL >will know what needs to be done. Everything else with the setup/install of >Linux went VERY smoothly! I use Linux at work now and compared to Windows, >it's billions of times more stable. However, so far I am finding >connecting to the internet is still much easier in Windows. Sorry guys. >*PLEASE* prove me wrong! :) > > Dave > - > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] problems!!
I have had the exact same problem, unfortunately to this day I have not got a satisfactory conclusion, even from Mandrake Tech support. I have loaded Red Hat first time onto the same machine, with no problems, if you want to get into Linux quickly. - Original Message - From: granduke To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 7:42 PM Subject: [newbie] problems!! Hi everyone, this is the first time I get on list. I have tried to install Mandrake 6.0 on my Pentium, 2Gb, computer without success. Two main problems occcur me: first - when the installation process gets to the rescue disk step it doesn't seem to find a diskette driver (the light doesn't turn on at any moment) and then obliges me to ommit this step. Second - After the diskette driver problem has occured LILO is not able to install itself, I have tryed all possible options given in the installation menus. My hard disk is recognized by LBA mode. So, after all these things I have all inside but I'm not able to reboot because I have no LILO installed nor a system disk to boot from. Can anyone help me?? I guess I will have tu put on some more information in order to bring you a consistent clue, but at the moment my knowledge about Linux is limited so when you were so kind to do so ask me whatever you find necessary. Thank you very much in advance
Re: [newbie] Finding Device Names
Not sure if this is what you're after, but here goes. Devices on a floppy drive connector are numbered 0 and 1 (or a and b for windows) by their physical connection to the lead. If you can see the ribbon cable, it has a twist in it. Devices mounted after this twist are device 0, devices mounted before it are device 1. Depending on where the tape drive is, will depend on the number. That is of course, if the convention /dev/fdX actually applies to this situation, perhaps someone else can advise on that? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:15 PM Subject: [newbie] Finding Device Names Hi Folks! Question: I have an internal Colorado T1000 tape drive on my box. It is spliced into the floppy controller cable. How do I fnd the device name that this will go to so that I can mount it. (Assume /dev/fdxX ? ) Is there somewhere that list the "default" device names for particular devices? Also, has anyone had any luck with this type of tape drive? Thanks, Bryan
Re: [newbie] running linux
(Ernie,FYI the third option is usually labelled CSEL, it's a supposedly semi-automatic setting that I've never seen working!!!) Jan, I didn't really want to mention this step that I had to do because I wasn't sure that it made any difference in the end. But here goes. What I had was a machine that had LBA set up, and I couldn't get Linux to work. It would install, but I had a kernel problem of some kind. I then saw a post where someone mentioned that LBA is incompatible with Linux. (Hey, I was young, I didn't know better.) The only problem was, the automatic detect on my BIOS would not allow me to use normal. So I low level formatted the drive to normal. (Don't ask!). I could then set everything to normal, install Linux, I was away. Of course, then I got introduced to number 10 and his cohorts. Going back to the postings, I saw the chap who had mentioned LBA had been put straight in no uncertain terms, so I had the wonderful process of getting everything back to LBA. Which included an LBA low level format. BTW, I have no idea what a low level format using the wrong disc layout can do to the disc, so please don't try it unless you don't really care. So, after weeks of toing and froing, I got back to an LBA system, with a working Linux. Or rather, I got back to the same place, where my other problems appeared, but the 10's didn't. What I am trying to say is, it may not be enough that your BIOS is LBA, you may need an LBA drive. I don't know how big your drives are, but if they're less than 528Mb (I think), it is possible that you have a 'normal' drive. Go to your drives website, take a look at support, and see what they say about it. Because I go for branded HD's, the support is always first rate, with all info available. This included a comment that the particular drives I was working with could be formatted normal or LBA, which convinced me it was alright to do a wrong format low level format. You may also be able to get the info off your drive. Alternatively, if you want to post your machine specs, I'm sure we can do the digging for you. It does sound like that you have a prebuilt PC, alot of prebuilt ones have fixed HD jumpers, along with fixed everything else, which means that you may not be able to make it master. That shouldn't make any difference though, although I would recommend you don't put a CD-ROM on the master. The speed drop is ridiculous!! Simon - Original Message - From: Ernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux Jan, Most of the IDE HD's I've worked with have a jumper on the back of the case which can be set to tell the Disk what it is (Master, Slave, or ... I forget the third one-)), however the labeling is usually fairly self explanatory, or there is a diagram on the case of the HD which you can use to configure the thing. You must set this to the required position, as well as in the BIOS set up. Hope this helps, Ernie - Original Message - From: Jan Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux > I set the BIOS disk type to LBA,Normal,and Large and the 10's still came up. > Also for some reason I can't set the drive to primary master I can only set > it to primary slave. I don't know if that would have an effect on it. > > - Original Message - > From: Simon Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 6:28 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux > > > > I think someone else has already mentioned the solution. It refers to the > > BIOS disk types being set to large or normal, when it should be LBA. I saw > > the same problem, and the solution worked for me. > > > > > > And for the other chap who said that they are LO's not 10's, they looked > > suspicously like 10's to me, AND I hadn't installed LILO!! > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Ernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 10:29 AM > > Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux > > > > > > First question is: did you elect to start the x-server automatically, and > if > > so, are you sure that you installed the correct video driver for X? A > little > > information about your box, and the way you configured Linux would help to > > limit the possibilities as well. Maybe someone else has seen this > behavior, > > but I haven't. Sorry I can't be of any more help, > > > > Ernie > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Jan Herbert <[
Re: [newbie] Changing Graphics and setup programs
Please excuse me if I'm wrong, but isn't Linux-Mandrake=Red Hat Linux + KDE+Pentium enhancements?? I thought that was the biggest selling point of Mandrake? - Original Message - From: Ernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Changing Graphics and setup programs First, and please do not take this offensively, but Linux-Mandrake is not RedHat Linux. They are two entirely individual distributions, with no connection to each other. As for changing your video driver, you can run Xconfigurator to accomplish that. Also, I think there an other configuration tool for the X-windows system as well, but I can't remember the name at this point. Hope this is useful, Ernie - Original Message - From: Tony Zocolillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Changing Graphics and setup programs > Hello, > > Thanks for the reply. I found some Q/A on the internet stating that SiS > chips don't run with Linux. I'll probably just get another video card that > does work. I see 2Mb ATI PCI cards on eBay for $10. > > How do I re-run the setup to install a new video driver? (or anything > else...I still need to load my sound card module) I don't have a bood for > Red Hat...I do have SuSE but I couldn't get past partitioning with it so I > put Mandrake on instead. The books I have on SuSE and Caldera describing > the setup utility don't seem to work with Mandrake RedHat. > > regards, > Tony Z. > > - Original Message - > From: Jesse Royall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Changing Graphics card config and SiS5597 problems > > > > Tony > > > > I got the same problem. And have been working on it for about 2 weeks now > > with nothing to show. I thought that it might have been my Network Card > > since I had problems with it when I ran Windows 98 and the N-Card in that > > they were trying to use the same IRQ. well i uninstalled the card and I > > still have the same problems. Glad to see I am not the only one though! > > If ya come up with any thing let me know and I will do the same for > > you... > > > > This is a message I recieved the other day... as for what it means I have > > no idea. I have yet to figure out where to get to these settings. I have > > used the Linux install disk and SETUP to change my settings and XE86conf > > and none of these help anything out. > > > > Jess > > > >
Re: [newbie] EZ-drive
As an educated guess, I would say not, for the following reasons. LILO can be installed in the MBR, or the Linux root partition. When it is the MBR, it is your 'root installer', for want of better words. So it is loaded first. If you then select another OS, it goes off and does that. If you have another boot loader, for example boot magic, you put LILO in the root partition, bootmagic into the MBR, then bootmagic boots first, then boots LILO when you select it. Unfortunately, it is a pretty good bet that EZ-drive can only install itself into the MBR, thereby preventing any other boot programs from going first. If EZ-drive is installable on the partition, rather than the MBR, then it should work. But bear in mind EZ-drive is a Microsoft based program, chances are it's not that flexible. Is there some alternative to EZ-drive that doesn't need a boot type execution, perhaps a little applet that runs inside Windows? Just a suggestion. - Original Message - From: Gustavo Viola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 4:29 PM Subject: [newbie] EZ-drive On sáb, 09 out 1999, Manny Styles wrote: > > The Maxtor drive came with EZ-Drive, but that doesn't affect linux in > any way since it can see large drives with no BIOS changes. > > Manny Styles > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Is it possible to have a drive with EZ-Drive with *both* Windows and Linux? Windows needs EZ-Drive, and the EZ-Drive documentation said Linux (or Unix) could not run over it. Any way I can enable EZ-Drive for Windows and disable it for Linux? (*Perhaps* a more adequate phrasing for this question would be: Does LiLo load before EZ-Drive and can it make EZ-Drive run only for Windows?) Thanks, /Gustavo.
Re: [newbie] BASHing My Crontab
Something along the lines of; !/bin/bash -u At the beginning of the script? The idea is to change the shell of the script currently running to be bash, and when the script terminates, control returns to sh. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 1:26 PM Subject: [newbie] BASHing My Crontab Hey Scripting Gurus, I set up a crontab for root to run a script. The script was written for bash. I found out that cron runs under sh? When the job kicks off, it can't find ifconfig or grep, which are part of the script. Email is sent to root "ifconfig : command not found" "grep : command not found". Is it possible to make ifconfig and grep "available" to sh? Is it possible to force cron to run under bash? Does what I am asking make any sense? After finally hashing out the script, I never thought I would hit a brick wall with cron :-( Thanks, Bryan
Re: [newbie] panoramix must change its name (off topic)
Actually, Mandrake brings up a similar memory of knights and dragons for me, perhaps we had a similarly warped education!! - Original Message - From: Matt Stegman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] panoramix must change its name I'm gonna have to go with DragonFly on this one. To me, "Mandrake" brings up a picture of a dragon more than anything else (perhaps I'm not well-read enough), thus, DragonFly seems the most fitting to me. On 11 Oct, Pixel wrote: > the panoramix name is unfortunately copyrighted (wishing there were only GPL ;-) > so i'm making a poll here to know which name it will change to! -- -Matt Stegman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [newbie] running linux
I think someone else has already mentioned the solution. It refers to the BIOS disk types being set to large or normal, when it should be LBA. I saw the same problem, and the solution worked for me. And for the other chap who said that they are LO's not 10's, they looked suspicously like 10's to me, AND I hadn't installed LILO!! - Original Message - From: Ernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] running linux First question is: did you elect to start the x-server automatically, and if so, are you sure that you installed the correct video driver for X? A little information about your box, and the way you configured Linux would help to limit the possibilities as well. Maybe someone else has seen this behavior, but I haven't. Sorry I can't be of any more help, Ernie - Original Message - From: Jan Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:11 AM Subject: [newbie] running linux > Hello, > >I am having trouble running Linux. Instalation went fine but when my > computer loads up, it looks like linux is going to load up but a bunch of > number 10's go scrolling across my screen and I can't do anything else but > shut the computer down. Any help is aprieciated. > > thanks in advance, > Ian Herbert > > > >
Re: [newbie] EIDE Controler
As I also run a Maxtor drive, with this 'Maxblast' utility, can I suggest that you ignore it, and just use it as a normal drive? Maxblast didn't do anything for my setup, so subsequent builds I have just ignored it. I think the only time you would need it is to low level format the drive, but how often is that likely to happen??!! Maxblast didn't offer any speed or performance increases, so try and do the work without it. - Original Message - From: Thomas & Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] EIDE Controler I have a FIC 503 + MB that is less than a year old. It is a socket 7 that has two built in IDE ports. I have already flashed my Bios to the newest version. but that did not help. My hard drive is a 5.7 GB Maxtor 2880 with UDMA . I built it from scratch myself. In the BIOS setup I use LBA and it does see the drive . Its the Maxblast software that says my board dosnt support it and makes me install the EZBios. Civileme wrote: > U' > > That's a BIOS issue, more than likely > > If your Motherboard is that old, sheesh. Get an upgrade to the BIOS. It > is cheaper than a Promise Card if you can find one. > > In fact, an upgraded motherboard which will work with your processor is > likely within reach at a price equal to the EIDE card. > > I have to think you are using something on Socket 5 or Socket 3. > > MediaGX 166 Boards are going at surplus distributors for about $45 > complete with processor. I have also seen things like PPro 200 with ATX > board for $99. The MediaGX is Pentium compatible but some Mandrake > upgrades do not like it. > > There are also Socket 7 boards which all recognize big EIDE drives > without EZ-Bios for costs from $25 to $49. Any processor fitting Socket > 5 will also work on Socket 7. > > If you have a 486 on Socket3, Mandrake is not likely to be for you. > > If you have something on Socket 5 which is not for MMX processors, the > Evergreen upgrade (to a 180) has a new BIOS and a Flash Program with it > and runs MMX anyway. > > So you could > > 1. Change the Motherboard and keep your processor and gain > EIDE recognition > Cost $28-$50 > > 2. Find a Promise EIDE adapter and put it in (do you at least have PCI? > because EIDE through an ISA port is . interesting) Cost $49-$69 > > 3. Put in the low-end MediaGX for about $45 and be compatible to most > linux distributions. > > 4. Put in a new MB and processor in Pentium Class and be compatible to > almost all distributions including Mandrake. Cost $70-180 depending on > the speed you want and the memory you have and want to re-use. Celeron > 300, 333, and 400 combos are common here. > > 5. Drop in an upgrade processor (an old one if you have socket 5 or 7 > and a Pentium-type processor, even if it is a 75) for about $120-150 and > gain the new BIOS and MMX compatibility that comes with it. > > Now if your computer is a COMPAQ or a Packard Bell, forget any > motherboard swap solutions--the boards have a non-standard footprint. > Not all, but all of the vintage that wouldn't recognize EIDE. > > And there are still many reasons various upgrades might not work. > I would need to know some names and model numbers off the computer or off > of its components if it is a home-built or locally-built machine. > > Civileme > > Thomas & Peter wrote: > > > My Motherboard does not recognise my EIDE hard drive with out using > > EZ Bios. I am looking for a EIDE Controller card that Linux will work > > with. I have seen lists of compatable equipment but nothing about > > EIDE Controller Cards. > > > > Thomas
Re: [newbie] backspace and EMACS
I'm sorry, I thought you wanted backspace to use as a backspacing delete key?? If there's nothing to delete, it will go 'beep'. Oh, and it usually doesn't cope with linefeeds, a backspace while the cursor is on the left hand side of the screen doesn't (usually) work like Windows, and move to the end of the previous line. I think you may be after some kind of history option on the command line, where you can go back over your previous commands, edit them ,and resubmit them. There is a way of setting VI to become your 'historian', for want of a better word, you can then use VI command keys to edit the text. Something like the following commands; FCEDIT=vi; export FCEDIT EDITOR=vi; export EDITOR (Excuse the syntax, work related stuff forces me back to Windows, so I can't go and check) - Original Message - From: lalala lalala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 10:49 AM Subject: [newbie] backspace and EMACS Anyone know how to 1) enable backspace? someone told me to do "stty erase [backspace]" then enter... The problem is when I press backspace here, nothing shows up. The Computer just beeps and when I press enter, it'll say "missing arguments" 2) enable automated tab thing in emacs? Meaning like whenu do brackets for if and while statements... I can't get it indent correctly. 3) increase color pallete on video card setting? One more random question: Just b/c I can see my window partition, does that mean Samba is already installed? if it is, how can i go browse the network neightborhood? = __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] red hat to mandrake
Unfortunately it's not the removal that I have a problem with. During clean installs of Mandrake, I cannot get the installer to create a boot disk or LILO, yet in Red Hat I can create both. My first theory was to get the boot floppy from Red Hat, and use it to get into Mandrake, then use 'that command' to build a new LILO. But because the kernel version numbers are different, it didn't work. - Original Message - From: John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] red hat to mandrake On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote: > I'd love to wipe the system, and install, but I have a serious deficiency in > the LILO/boot disk area, that I can't resolve, and neither can Mandrake > support! > > Looks like this weekend will be the first attempt at the upgrade, I'll let > you people know how it went. > Get a Windows boot disk, boot to the disk (which has MS FDISK on it) and type "fdisk /mbr" and it'll wipe the master boot record. I don't recommend doing this if you've got something you want to save in the way of a current Linux install, as it can be problematic getting back to the existing install w/o a proper boot floppy. John
Re: [newbie] terminal and backspace
Someone disagree with this, because this is specifically a Unix command, but give it a go anyway, it might work under Linux; stty erase - Original Message - From: lalala lalala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 11:27 PM Subject: [newbie] terminal and backspace Hi... after 2 GRUELING months of installtion question and FAQs.. I finally got Linux to run properly. I have two questions: 1) how do u enable backspace to work? 2) whenever I open up a terminal (or a terminal emulator), I can't see anything but pitch black screen... it won't even show "/usr/blahblah..>" how do I fix this? Thanx in advance = __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Man I HATE this.
I take the view that time is money. If it's going to take you twenty hours to fix it, and your time is worth say £10 an hour, it would be 'cheaper' to buy a new card!! - Original Message - From: bay56 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Man I HATE this. - Original Message - From: lalala lalala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 5:48 AM Subject: [newbie] Man I HATE this. > Can someone out there... someone with a heart of > gold... show me what the heck the problem is? THANK > YOU in advance. I had exactly the same kind of problems 7 days ago - now it's gone for good, and so has the video card - swapped out for a matrox millenium G200 8mb - never looked back - save your sanity - you'll love yourself for it! ;-) Sorry if it's not what youd hoped for, but somehow I figured my time was worth way more than the card at the root of he problem. Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] red hat to mandrake via upgrade option
Tell me about it, the 'authority' that is Mandrake support kept sending me round and round in circles!! Cheers Brian, I think all I needed is someone to attempt it before me, to give me the confidence to jump in with both feet!! - Original Message - From: Ty Mixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 4:13 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] red hat to mandrake via upgrade option >> Original Message << On 9/30/99, 6:38:12 PM, "Brian J. Babiuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: [newbie] red hat to mandrake via upgrade option: [snip] > I didn't mean to come across as an authority. I just am speaking from my > own experience. I hope this helps someone! Best way to speak, and often helps more than the 'authority.' Ty
Re: [newbie] Forcing Network card to read off of 10baseT
Well, well, and I though us Brits were always screwed when it came to shopping!! A pair of RJ45 crimpers for occasional ue can be bought from PC world for about £15, about $25!! But if you want to use the student method, use a pair of pliers!! Worked for me! And my loopback tester consisted of the flashing lights on the two computers I was connecting. I have to say though, I have only seen crossover cables for sale once, and they are more expensive, for some bizarre reason! Much better to 'adapt' an existing patch cable. - Original Message - From: Bill Crouch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 6:20 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Forcing Network card to read off of 10baseT John Aldrich wrote: > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote: > > > > And after pricing a decent pair of crimpers, you'll find that hub > > looking more and more likely. Besides, with a crossover cable you're > > absolutely, positively limited to two machines. With a hub you've got > > growing room. > > > Yep. :-) Although knowing how to make your own cables could come in > QUITE handy. :-) > John Well let's see...the crimpers are about $100 but after you make the cable you still need a loopback tester to see if all connections are good so that's more $$$. Expensive hobby ain't it? Bill
Re: [newbie] what are these daemons?
I too would also be interested as to why LinuxConf is a security risk. I don't actually intend to make a direct connection out, I'm relying on Win98 SE to make my internet connection, but if LinuxConf has other risks, I'd like to know about them. - Original Message - From: bay56 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] what are these daemons? - Original Message - From: John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] what are these daemons? > > linuxconf > Potential security risk. Don't run it. Where could I read up about that? I already ran it, but will leave it out next install if it's that bad. Darn - seemed quite useful too! Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] Chix
www.linuxit.com, for all us UK Linux people. - Original Message - From: Matt G. Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 6:13 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Chix You can get stuff tux's at penguinpower.com I got the 3 foot one for my room..pritty cool - Original Message - From: Rick Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; David P. Greenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Chix > On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, David P. Greenberg wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, John Aldrich wrote: > > > On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, you wrote: > > > > --I bought this stupid OS because the guy at the computer store said I could > > > > get chix with it... > > > > > > > Nahhh...to do that, you have to have "Tux" the penguin with > > > you and carry him all around. I've seen it work too many > > > times. I've *got* to get my own "Tux!" ;-) > > > John > > > > --John, I've seen some ads somewhere for a stuffed Tux. I don't remember where, > > though. A definate must have. > > chix isn't that a ceral you can use to make a snack with? Were putting linux > cd's in boxs of chix ceral now? Bet Bill wishes he had thought of that. > > Rick > > > -- > "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB >
Re: [newbie] Chix
I'll give you $30 for it. - Original Message - From: Bob Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Chix > "David P. Greenberg" wrote: > > > > --I bought this stupid OS because the guy at the computer store said I could > > get chix with it... > > > > Now that we know that you'll believe _anything_, > I've got some land in Fla. for sale. Real > close to the water. After that we'll talk about > this solid gold brick for only $20. > > Bob J. >
Re: [newbie] Fw: Nero burning rom
Don't rely on Nero for .iso images, my experience is that Nero doesn't like them. I would recommend CDrWin as the best .iso burner for Windows, the evaluation is limited to 1 speed but it is free. - Original Message - From: Bart Meijer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 4:47 PM Subject: [newbie] Fw: Nero burning rom Hi, I wonder if anyone burned the 6.1 ISO file using Nero ? If so, how do I get it right ? And what is supposed to be on the cd ? There's a DOS partition with boot-disk images and stuff ? Is it bootable ? Thanx, Bart
Re: [newbie] Wanted - networking tips (plan A)
And to further your pursuit, check out www.98lite.net . They offer a utility that trims win98 to realistic, even Linux proportions. - Original Message - From: Simon Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Wanted - networking tips (plan A) > Just a quick note for you. A bare Windows 95 machine, with Office 97 but > without all the sounds, assistants, etc, can fit in a 200Meg drive with room > left over. I should know, I have a dodgy laptop with a 200 meg hard drive, > and they fit!! That leaves 400Meg for your documents. Win98 will add another > 50Meg for the same config, 98SE will add another 100Meg. (Good old Microsoft > eh?!!) > > If you do run out of space, you would do better having the documents on the > other machine, rather than having Office on the other machine. > - Original Message - > From: Aaron deRozario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 9:56 AM > Subject: [newbie] Wanted - networking tips (plan A) > > > > Greetings all > > > > Over the last couple of days I have been reading plenty of HOW-TO's, and a > > few mini-HOWTO's on networking with Linux. In fact I've encountered more > > weird acronyms and strange buxx words in the last 2 days than in the rest > of > > my life put together. However I am learning a bucketload and realising > that > > there is A LOT of good docs in the how-to's! > > > > Don't think is going to stop me from posting lots of trivial and basic > > questions though! > > > > At the moment I am considering logistical problems - hardware setups and > the > > like (messing up software is free - messing up hardware costs $$$). > > > > Here is one of the many plans I am considering (Plan A) > > > > I currently have a box with a 1gig hda with Windows and a 6.4gig hdb with > > Linux. > > > > I am thinking of ripping out the 1 gig drive and putting into a 486 > > (actually an AMD-133 in a 486 board). I would like to split this drive > > giving about 600meg to Windows, and the rest to Linux. The 6.4 will stay > > with its current machine and become the server. > > > > In Linux mode I want to use this machine basically to learn about > Unix/Linux > > networking (NFS, telnet, remote X-terminals) etc. > > In Windows mode I want to learn about Samba, and use Windows when I have > to. > > > > I was thinking of connecting the two machines using 10Mbit cards and a hub > > (a third machine will be added later if these two work out okay). > > > > Here is the logistical concern I need answered. Both the gf and I do > > occasionally have to bring work home. Normally this is in the form of MS > > Word documents, sometimes 40 pages or more. Now I know there are MS Word > > filters on some Linux wordprocessors however when you are dealing with > very > > long documents, that include charts etc, small discrepencies when > > importing/exporting the file leads to some serious headaches. I will need > > to continue to have MS Office 97 (sorry). If I go ahead and do something > > that makes it impossible to run Office the gf WILL HAVE MY BOLLOCKS. She > > will live if it runs slowly - she will kill me if it doesn't run at all. > > > > Here is the question then (finally) 600meg is not going to hold Win95 plus > > Office. So I want to install Office onto a network drive on the Linux > > server. Will a 10Mbit network be quick enough for the Windows machine to > > run Office from the networked drive? > > > > Yes I know Office is slow anyway, even slower on a 486, but will a 10Mbit > > allow Office to actually work? > > > > Thanking you in advance > > > > Aaron > >
Re: [newbie] Wanted - networking tips (plan A)
Just a quick note for you. A bare Windows 95 machine, with Office 97 but without all the sounds, assistants, etc, can fit in a 200Meg drive with room left over. I should know, I have a dodgy laptop with a 200 meg hard drive, and they fit!! That leaves 400Meg for your documents. Win98 will add another 50Meg for the same config, 98SE will add another 100Meg. (Good old Microsoft eh?!!) If you do run out of space, you would do better having the documents on the other machine, rather than having Office on the other machine. - Original Message - From: Aaron deRozario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 9:56 AM Subject: [newbie] Wanted - networking tips (plan A) > Greetings all > > Over the last couple of days I have been reading plenty of HOW-TO's, and a > few mini-HOWTO's on networking with Linux. In fact I've encountered more > weird acronyms and strange buxx words in the last 2 days than in the rest of > my life put together. However I am learning a bucketload and realising that > there is A LOT of good docs in the how-to's! > > Don't think is going to stop me from posting lots of trivial and basic > questions though! > > At the moment I am considering logistical problems - hardware setups and the > like (messing up software is free - messing up hardware costs $$$). > > Here is one of the many plans I am considering (Plan A) > > I currently have a box with a 1gig hda with Windows and a 6.4gig hdb with > Linux. > > I am thinking of ripping out the 1 gig drive and putting into a 486 > (actually an AMD-133 in a 486 board). I would like to split this drive > giving about 600meg to Windows, and the rest to Linux. The 6.4 will stay > with its current machine and become the server. > > In Linux mode I want to use this machine basically to learn about Unix/Linux > networking (NFS, telnet, remote X-terminals) etc. > In Windows mode I want to learn about Samba, and use Windows when I have to. > > I was thinking of connecting the two machines using 10Mbit cards and a hub > (a third machine will be added later if these two work out okay). > > Here is the logistical concern I need answered. Both the gf and I do > occasionally have to bring work home. Normally this is in the form of MS > Word documents, sometimes 40 pages or more. Now I know there are MS Word > filters on some Linux wordprocessors however when you are dealing with very > long documents, that include charts etc, small discrepencies when > importing/exporting the file leads to some serious headaches. I will need > to continue to have MS Office 97 (sorry). If I go ahead and do something > that makes it impossible to run Office the gf WILL HAVE MY BOLLOCKS. She > will live if it runs slowly - she will kill me if it doesn't run at all. > > Here is the question then (finally) 600meg is not going to hold Win95 plus > Office. So I want to install Office onto a network drive on the Linux > server. Will a 10Mbit network be quick enough for the Windows machine to > run Office from the networked drive? > > Yes I know Office is slow anyway, even slower on a 486, but will a 10Mbit > allow Office to actually work? > > Thanking you in advance > > Aaron
Re: [newbie] STOP
Ok, time to break out those stylish jackets with large buckles and wraparound sleeves!!! - Original Message - From: Leonard W. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] STOP > STOP, In the name of love > before you break my heart. > - Original Message - > From: Aaron deRozario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 2:09 AM > Subject: RE: [newbie] STOP > > > > Stop what? I haven't done anything ;-) > > > > neither has CSIRO ;-) > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Michael Lim Shek Sia [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 1:15 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [newbie] STOP > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] Recommendations for network cards
'Fraid so, the machines are state of the art (in the late 80's!!), passive back plane board. Basically the entire PC sits on a single ISA board, and you have a blank ISA backplane connecting all other card to it. Put it this way, I have got an ISA video card!!! And if you're wondering why I don't bin it, I have four of these devices. If I can get them working, I intend to do alot of experimenting with multi processor configurations!! Four P150's in a Linux environment should be worth seeing!! - Original Message - From: John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Recommendations for network cards > On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, you wrote: > > Thanks to my fruitless exploits in getting my unidentifiable NIC's to work, > > I am now in the market to purchase some new NIC's. Can anyone recommend any > > 10baseT ISA NIC's that are reasonably easy to set up in Linux, IE not > > Windows specific? Oh, and cheap must be the prime consideration. I'll be > > buying from the UK. > > > Kingston DEC-based 10 mb combo ISA cards work just fine. > They're recognized as "tulip" cards. The one I bought I got > on sale for like $15 here in the US. It's single-speed, 10 > Mb. This card will work with either coax or twisted-pair > ethernet. I don't recall if it was ISA or PC. Does it HAVE > to be ISA?? >
[newbie] Recommendations for network cards
Thanks to my fruitless exploits in getting my unidentifiable NIC's to work, I am now in the market to purchase some new NIC's. Can anyone recommend any 10baseT ISA NIC's that are reasonably easy to set up in Linux, IE not Windows specific? Oh, and cheap must be the prime consideration. I'll be buying from the UK. Simon
[newbie] Oracle OAS 4.0.7 CD install
I have downloaded the OAS 407 from Oracle for the Linux platform, and am now having trouble getting it on to CD. My burner is on a Windows machine, so I am using Winzip to uncompress and ungzip the files, and have hit a problem. In the MAN3 directory, there are files that have '::' in the filenames, obviously windows is not impressed with this. Is there any way round this? Are the files in the MAN3 directory needed for working, or are they just help files? Is there anyone out there who's worked with OAS for Linux?
Re: [newbie] fxp
File Xfer Program??? Or FTP to everyone else? The Igloo statement below sort of gave it away!! - Original Message - From: Steve Philp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] fxp Ralph | byte-runner | wrote: > > does anyone know of a good fxp prog for linux? The new igloo ftp has it but > it's messed up. What is fxp? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Superdisk
Considering Superdisks don't use floppy connectors, they're in fact IDE devices, this designation seems perfectly logical. Now the problem I have is not being able to make a boot disk during install through the superdisk, as you can't type any commands to mount the device during install!!! I have got around it, but it would be interesting to see what people say about it! - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Superdisk On 12 Sep 99, at 16:53, Rommel Barbosa wrote: It's a hd? device not a fd? device. You could link it to fdo, that might work. Joe > > Hi. I installed Linux Mandrake in my computer that > has a superdisk (120MB) instead of a regular floppy > disk drive. I am not able to mount the floppy. Does > anybody know how can I mount the superdisk drive? > > Thanks, > > Rommel > > __ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > Spam control follows: root@localhost postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Installation suggestion
If your BIOS supports CD booting, then it can be done, and is very easy. If not, then there is a program on the CD that you can run after you boot into DOS/Windows, the only problem is I'm at work at the moment and I haven't got the info for where this program is. It's listed in the install guide. Can anyone else offer the location of this program? - Original Message - From: Lennart Petersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 10:07 AM Subject: [newbie] Installation suggestion Does anyone have a suggestion about how to install Mandrake in a situation like this: Having a laptop running NT4. Have one extra HD that i will put into the laptop and i want to have Mandrake on that one with the possibility to dual-boot between them. One problem is that when i install the extra HD i have to remove the floppy. Is it possible to install Mandrake from CD? Tanks for any advice! /Lennart -- Lennart Petersson Benefit AB Bergendorffsgatan 5A S-652 24 Karlstad Phone: +46 (0)54 177253 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Messenger, my nickname is: bit_av_en_kaka http://www.benefit.se
Re: [newbie] what is?
Thanks for the constructive reply, it makes a change to have someone clarify things rather than just put them down!!! The one thing I would ask is, the 128M swap limit comment is taken from the Linux Mandrake manual for version 6.0. Does this mean that I have bought a product whose documentation is already out of date?? Oh, and the reliance on PQMagic? It's pretty!! On a more serious note, I have used many partitioning products in my time, and the only one that hasn't screwed up at least once is PQMagic. Even Disk Druid rendered one of my drives inaccessible!! And as far as I'm concerned, Fdisk is just asking for trouble! But I am a newbie to PC's, I only got coverage of DOS briefly while I was at college, in the real world there's no reason to go back to that level. Simon - Original Message - From: Steve Philp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] what is? Simon Norris wrote: > > Please bear in mind that this is a Unix reply, but it should hold true for > Linux. In some spots, yes. In others, you're letting filesystem issues cloud your suggestions. > The only reason for splitting partitions into /usr /var /tmp etc, is to > position them on different disks for performance. If you have only one disk, > you won't see any performance difference between one huge / and lots of > smaller partitions. I don't know of any safety implications, but if you get > a fault on a drive, it takes the drive out or a platter out, not a > partition, so you would still lose everything. Agree. > There are other restrictions though. The first is the 2 Gig one. Any > partitions greater than 2 Gig need to be split. Our common layout here is > /u01, /u02 etc, with the first 2 Gig being given to /. (Please, no flames > from Linux users saying this is wrong, I don't know how close Linux and Unix > are, but at least this post should put people in the right direction). There is no 2G limitation on ext2fs filesystems. File SIZE is limited to roughly 2G though. > The next one is swap. Linux can only use 128Meg of swap in one file, larger > swaps require multiple partitions. If you do have 256Meg though, it will > take a serious load to get it to use swap!!! Not true as of 2.2.x kernels, swap partitions may be as large as you'd like to make them. > And the final one is /boot. The restriction for this is it has to be below > 1023 cylinders. The safest thing I have seen is make it about 5 Meg, and put > it right at the beginning of the drive, before DOS/Windows/etc. PQMagic > methinks?? /boot advice is correct. Only one question, though... Why is everyone SO reliant on Partition Magic? I've done all sorts of evil and twisted things with multiple OS's, strange partitioning schemes, etc and I've never found a situation that I needed anything other than LILO and a few docs. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] what is?
Please bear in mind that this is a Unix reply, but it should hold true for Linux. The only reason for splitting partitions into /usr /var /tmp etc, is to position them on different disks for performance. If you have only one disk, you won't see any performance difference between one huge / and lots of smaller partitions. I don't know of any safety implications, but if you get a fault on a drive, it takes the drive out or a platter out, not a partition, so you would still lose everything. There are other restrictions though. The first is the 2 Gig one. Any partitions greater than 2 Gig need to be split. Our common layout here is /u01, /u02 etc, with the first 2 Gig being given to /. (Please, no flames from Linux users saying this is wrong, I don't know how close Linux and Unix are, but at least this post should put people in the right direction). The next one is swap. Linux can only use 128Meg of swap in one file, larger swaps require multiple partitions. If you do have 256Meg though, it will take a serious load to get it to use swap!!! And the final one is /boot. The restriction for this is it has to be below 1023 cylinders. The safest thing I have seen is make it about 5 Meg, and put it right at the beginning of the drive, before DOS/Windows/etc. PQMagic methinks?? - Original Message - From: Ralph |byte-runner | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 1:16 PM Subject: [newbie] what is? Hello All, Can someone give me an Idea what is the best way to set up my hard drive partitions for linux. I have 6110 set aside for linux with a swap of 256mb I have a asus board running duel pentium2 350's with 256mb ram. what i mean is i set it up with it all in / should i have split the thing into like a /usr/ and the such? Also I wanted to thank everyone who has helped me the last few times. Ralph -- *** Remember WhereEver Your Head Goes Your Ass Will Follow!! ***
Re: [newbie] Multiple CPU (2 Celerons or one Pent-3)
Even NT on it's own won't necessarily guarantee dual processor working, it all depends on the software. Games would probably not use dual processors, whereas graphics packages, the most common area for multiple CPU's, would. Since you're on a Linux board, I would add that Linux or any Unix derivative will give you the dual processor power you're after with minimal effort, and that would also include stuff running on them, like Quake or similar. The one other thing I would say is that dual processors aren't usually better. If you imagine that they are both sharing a 66Mhz bus (only the brand new Celerons are 100Mhz, and you're back to paying a premium), whereas a P3 would use a 100Mhz on it's own, you can start to see the bottlenecks. Multiple processing also works better with SCSI than IDE, as SCSI can handle multiple requests better. See if you can find an online benchmark test, you may be surprised. I found one which was next to useless, it used 3d Studio max to benchmark, but at least it demonstrates the lack of support for dual processors. - Original Message - From: Ralph |byte-runner | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Multiple CPU (2 Celerons or one Pent-3) On Mon, 06 Sep 1999, you wrote: > As a newbie there are a lot of things about Linux and computers in general > that I do not yet understand - please bear with me. > > I have a query about the pros and cons of running multiple processors. I > don't know about anywhere else in the world but in Australia the new Abit > dual-Celeron boards have hit the shelves. The price for one of these boards > packing 2 Celeron-400 processors is considerable less than that for a > Pentium 3 - 550 with board. > > Now I understand that not all programmes work with multiple-processors, > however I understand that in a multiple-processor setup one program may be > run on processor A, while another is being dealt with by processor B. No > doubt this is a major over-simplification. > As I am potentially in the market for a new system if I can get better > performance from dual-Celerons on other programmes I run, I may as well save > the money and impress my friends running Win98 with a system that really > rocks. Win '98 won't work with duel cpu it will only see one of them. You will have to run NT to take advantage of this setup. Ralph *** Remember WhereEver Your Head Goes Your Ass Will Follow!! ***
Re: [newbie] slocate
My lot in life is working with Unix and DOS based systems at the same time,
and this sort of problem is extremely common. Some text editors are noticed
for their ability to tag on control characters, my particularly nasty one is
^M for carriage returns. If you hit one of these control characters before
the finish, it can send the system into fits, I believe ^X is the EOF flag,
but someone will correct me.
My common method of fixing it is to erase the file if it's small, and use VI
to recreate it. It's the only one I can be absolutely sure of fixing it.
Editing it doesn't usually work.
Oh, and FTP'ing using ASCII rather than binary can do the same job,
especially if you're crossing platforms.
- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 12:40 PM
Subject: [newbie] slocate
HeyI had an error with a built-in cron job a few days ago and
someone told me I had an extra carriage-return in there, so I nuked
it. Now it tells me "unexpected end of file." (below is the EXACT
quote...):
>From root Thu Sep 2 04:02:07 1999
Return-Path:
Received: (from root@localhost)
by slave1.chattanooga.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA11373
for root; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 04:02:03 -0400
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 04:02:03 -0400
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cron run-parts /etc/cron.daily
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
/etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file
/etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron~: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file
>From root Fri Sep 3 04:02:08 1999
Return-Path:
Received: (from root@localhost)
by slave1.chattanooga.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA12039
for root; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 04:02:04 -0400
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 04:02:04 -0400
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cron run-parts /etc/cron.daily
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
/etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file
/etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron~: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file
==
Here's the cron job:
#!/bin/sh
[ -e /usr/bin/updatedb ] && { sh /usr/bin/updatedb } || {
/usr/bin/slocate -u -e /tmp -e "/var/tmp,/usr/tmp,/afs,/net,/proc"
}
What's the problem with this??? Why does it say unexpected end of
file?
Thanks...
John
Re: [newbie] How about this ? Red Hat GPL No Longer Available
The way I see it is Mandrake will be unable to say that it uses the Red Hat distribution, so the prestige of being based on Red Hat will be lost, even though it's still called Linux-Mandrake. It won't necessarily affect us, it will affect prospective Mandrake buyers when the name Red Hat is mysteriously dropped. - Original Message - From: Martin White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] How about this ? Red Hat GPL No Longer Available Is this for real !!?? We on this mailing list DO call it something else 'Mandrake Linux' - end of problem (or am i overlooking something?) Martin. - Original Message - From: George Guzic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 8:57 AM Subject: [newbie] How about this ? Red Hat GPL No Longer Available > > > -- Forwarded Message -- > Subject: Red Hat GPL No Longer Available > Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:21:27 -0400 > From: "Robb Sands" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > HELP!! > > I just got off the phone with Amazon.com and Red Hat.com Legal departments > and guess what the hot-breaking-heart-breaking news is? > > You can no longer refer to Red Hat Linux GPL distribution using the words > Red Hat. Now it has to be called "I wanna be Microsoft" or "anonymous linux > 6.0" or something similar, since the Red Hat name can no longer appear on > ANY GPL PRODUCTS or ads. That's right, the GPL distribution of Red Hat > Linux can no longer be called Red Hat Linux, it now MUST have a new name. > No more Red Hat GPL CD's, advertisements, support groups, netnews, > nothing... > > I know this sounds incredibly unbelievable, but the Red Hat GPL distribution > can no longer be advertised or labelled Red Hat, only the official boxed > set. As a linux seller on Amazon.com, I (along with 100 other people) sell > a GPL version of the distribution formerly known as Red Hat Linux GPL. We > now will be required to say we are selling 'blah' Linux 6.0 and will have to > remove any labelling on products referring to the GPL Linux Distribution. > > How will people know they are getting Red Hat Linux GPL if it can't carry > the name? You guess, because I haven't a clue... > > Of course the legal counsel rep, and only person in the entire Red Hat > organization who can respond, David Shumannfang, is currently on vacation > and won't be available for a week (9-7-99). Basically we are all screwed > and no one at Red Hat knows anything until his return, just lovely. > > This email is a plea for you to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and voice your > displeasure over Red Hat's new copyright policy requiring their GPL > distribution to be called something other than Red Hat Linux GPL. > > I know this is off topic, so flame away, but it is an issue that AFFECTS ALL > RED HAT LINUX USERS and POTENTIAL USERS. > > Robb Sands > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! > http://www.redhat.com http://archive.redhat.com > To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with >"unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: [newbie] Star Office
As a small tip seeing as you're also from this small island in the middle of nowhere (!), take a look at the back issues of either PC Pro, PC Direct, or Computer Shopper. One had Staroffice actually on the coverdisc about four months ago, you should still be able to get a back issue. Five quid for a complete office suite is a bit of a bargain don't you think?? - Original Message - From: Bluebottle To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 6:53 AM Subject: [newbie] Star Office Have noticed this on the web and it claims to run under Linux. Can't get CD in England at present. Does anyone know of Star Office and does it run? John the Nadger www.goon.freeuk.com
[newbie] Real Newbie quiestion regarding installation
(BTW, thanks for all the answers regarding pronunciation, I think I'll call it 'Fish') I am trying to install V6.0 of Mandrake Linux, and have hit a problem. I go through the install, and it works fine, I can select all the packages, etc. I wait half an hour for it to install, and get to the boot disk creation. It fails miserably. If I skip that and go for the LILO option, that fails aswell. As you can guess, this leaves the install useless, as I haven't got a method of booting. The way I see it, is I've got two options. 1. Find out what going wrong with the install, and fix it. I've been trying it for just short of a week now, with no luck. 2. Leave the install, try and manually boot it, get to the command prompt, and run LILO install from there. It could be that Linear option the install keeps going on about, but the checkbox on the install screen doesn't make any difference. For info, I am loading this from a second hard drive, as the PC I'm running on can't handle CD-ROM's. It's a Pentium 75, running on a biscuit PC. I have found purely by accident an option where I can boot from the install disk and enter vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1, and it seems to boot from the hard drive. However, it gives me the localhost login, and freezes, no keyboard entry is acknowledged. I did see an earlier post regarding run levels (My background is Unix, so I understand the concept), is there any way of forcing it to start RL3 from this Boot: prompt? Thanks for your help, I'm sure as soon as I get it working I'll be able to offer answers to your questions. Simon
Re: [newbie] X Window configuration for an X terminal
To Joe, sounds like a perfect client server situation to me. Powerful server (BIG Linux box), bog standard local PC. To Axalon, sorry I don't know, we use an X client on our local small machines, rather than X server. In case you're wondering, it's Exceed from Hummingbird. Original Message - From: Joseph S. Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] X Window configuration for an X terminal Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Frederic PLE wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I installed a Mandrake 6.0 on a small PC (P-100) with an X server (no > > GNOME nor KDE nor anything else, juste XF86). > > How could I set up it in order to force him to display the kdm of > > another > > BIG Linux box ? > > > > thanx for your help > > > > Fred > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Checkout "X -help", it's "-query hostname" > > > -- > MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ > --Axalon Just curious, why would one want to do this? Joe
[newbie] The unspoken question
I have been aware of Linux for some time now, and am deciding to take the plunge. I just have one question to ask. How do you pronounce Linux? With an "I", as in Lin-ux, or a "y", as in lie-nux? They did say that this is a realm for newbies!! ;-)
Re: [newbie] linux-mandrake updates
Another common problem that gives this message is timeout. Tell me, do you use an FTP program, or do you use a web browser? The reason is, if you use a web browser, often the settings are too low for popular sites. At least with FTP programs you can increase the timeout. My personal recommendation is WS-FTP. As for changing the mirror, go back to the main linux mandrake site, go to the update page, and select a mirror that may not be as close to you. Put it this way, I live in the UK, my fastest mirror choice is not London or similar, I usually head for California!! - Original Message - From: James Mellema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] linux-mandrake updates Guillermo Belli wrote: > > Change the ftp mirror. That's how i solved that problem. > > El mar, 31 ago 1999, escribiste: > > Each time I have attempted to connect with the Linux-Mandrake updates I > > receive a message saying that fetching the mirror list failed, then the > > mirror list screen appears with nothing inside. Any ideas on how to fix > > this problem would be greatly appreciated. > > > > TIA > > Jim Mellema What do I change it to, and how? Jim Mellema
Re: [newbie] Install problems...
Couple of suggestions; 1. Someone else has tried a similar working method, with no success. I believe Linux cannot detect the 'hot swap' of the floppy and the CD-ROM? And the hardware config at boot seems to be a subset of what's really there, usually consisting of the most common basic hardware. You may find the backpack CD-ROM is supported, just not from the install. 2. This is the method I use on my machine, a variation may work on yours. As I haven't got access to a CD-ROM on my Linux box, I physically take the hard drive over to my main machine, and copy the files onto a FAT16 partition on the hard drive. I then take it back, and install from hard drive. I can then delete this install partition. What I'm basically suggesting is to use DOS/Windows or similar to load a partition from the Linux CD-ROM (If you're short on disk space, you only need the RPMS folder), then boot from floppy and install from hard drive. If DOS can see your backpack CD-ROM, boot from a DOS floppy with the CD-ROM plugged in the back. Or use a DOS floppy to get the hard drive partition bootable, boot with the CD-ROM in place, and copy the files from there. File transfer of the files off the floppy doesn't work, as you know. It's not the same as DOS where you just need the system files. I think there is the equivalent of the master boot record on a floppy, which isn't just a case of copying files. - Original Message - From: Michael D. Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 8:48 PM Subject: [newbie] Install problems... I have a WinBook Laptop computer and I am trying to figure out how to install Mandrake RH6.0. I can not get the computer to recognize the CD-ROM drive. Here is what is going on... 1. I insert the removable floppy drive and boot from the boot disk. 2. When I get to the point where it asks me to pick which cd-rom drive to use, I remove the floppy drive and insert the cd-rom drive with the CD #1 in it. 3. I went through the entire list for CD-ROM drivers and it can not find the cd-rom. 4. It is not SCSI. I have an external CD-ROM drive as well that hooks up to the parallel port as well. I tried it and it can not be found. The CD-ROM is a "Backpack". I tried Fdisk the hard drive and copied the 9 files from the boot disk to it to see if it may be a problem from swapping the CD-Rom with the Floppy drive. I can not get it to boot from the hard drive. I fdisked the hard drive using DOS 6.0 fdisk utility and formatted it. I copied the boot disk to the hard drive and it would not boot from the hard drive. I just need to install Apache web server and X-Windows so I can show off a working copy of my web site when I am on the road. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Re: [Re: [newbie] Uninstalling Linux] [OT]
The comment 'live dangerously' was meant to be less of a sarcastic comment than it sounded. Yes, it is dangerous to low level format a drive, but you still can't do any physical harm. The worst thing I've had happen to me is that the disk has been formatted with the wrong number of cylinders, and I've ended up with less room to play with. It still worked, and I installed Windows before I realised what I'd done!! Most modern drives have those numbers printed on them, so you can't go much wrong there. I would be hesitant to repeat it on a drive greater than 8Gig, but 3.2Gig is a little less than that! - Original Message - From: Jaguar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] Uninstalling Linux] I seem to remember a short while ago about a program "ZEROFILL" (search in archives for more info), anyways while I was at that site...the HD manuf. stated that LOW LEVEL format is not a good thing to do anymore on these newest HD's. FYI Jaguar "Simon Norris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Been there, done that!! > > I had fun with this after a crashed install, because I couldn't remove the > partition, and couldn't get back in to use Linux fdisk!! I didn't have a > rescue disk either. Fdisk on Windows can see the Linux extended partition, > as an extended partition seems to be the same under any OS, but it couldn't > see the ext2 partitions inside the extended partition, so couldn't delete > them, and generated the error messages you're seeing. > > The thing I did have was Partition Magic on Windows. Although it didn't know > what the partitions were, it did delete them pretty thoroughly. If you > haven't got Partition Magic, see if you can get hold of an evaluation copy > for a short time. > > Of course, you could always go the drastic route and low level format your > drive. Go on, live dangerously!! > - Original Message - > From: Lionel Barrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 2:26 AM > Subject: [newbie] Uninstalling Linux > > > Hey guys, my question is: how exactly do you uninstall Red Hat 6.1. I > tried creating a win98 boot disk, booting it and running fdisk /mbr but all > that did was give win98 back control of the booting sequence. I tried using > fdisk to delete the partition but it said that logical drives were in > existence. When I tried to delete this logical drive, it said none were > there. I tried again to delete the extended partition but still with no > luck. How can I take Red Hat off completely. I have another 1 gig drive now > that I want to put Mandrake 6.1 one on so I wanna blank my 3.2 gig hd to put > win98 on and then put M 6.1 on the 1 gig. How do I get Red HAT off???! > > > Thanks in advance Lionel > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] StarOffice -- original $39.95 version?
Linux version already arrived in the UK PC Plus, it's the one with the milk bottles on the front (those who can see it will know what I mean!!). It is an old version though. - Original Message - From: Jeanette Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] StarOffice -- original $39.95 version? Star Office is on the CD of PC PLUS magazine this month. The December issue is to include the Linux version on CD ROM. Jeanette Aaron deRozario wrote: > > Does anyone know if the new Sun license prevents third parties from burning > StarOffice CD's and redistributing them? > > I don't know what Sun's plans are with StarOffice but if they want to have > their product up there with MS Office in terms of product recognition, a > great place to start would be to allow publishers to include it on the cover > CD of computer magazines. > > Aaron > > > -Original Message- > > From: Alan Shoemaker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:21 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [newbie] StarOffice -- original $39.95 version? > > > > RonaldI don't know the answer to your question, but they will send > > you a CD with both the linux and windows versions on it for $9.95 + > > shipping & handling. Just go to the sun website and order it. > > > > Alan > > > > > > R_Yeo wrote: > > > > > > Jeanette Russo wrote: > > > > > > > > I have seen the Package in the store. Not sure what it includes. You > > > > might still be able to find it. I think that Sun has already made a > > lot > > > > of improvements to Star Office in version 5.1a. Now you don't have to > > > > go through the arcane registration process. Now if they would fix the > > > > Java and the printing it would be great. > > > > And some fonts would help. > > > > Jeanette > > > > > > I have asked this question before, and will try again. Does > > > anyone know specifically what are the "upgrades' from the > > > original SO5.1 to Sun's 5.1a? > > > It takes a hell of a long time to d/l the package over a 64K > > > satellite link shared by a few people, so I'd prefer to know > > > first before I jump. > > > > > > -- > > > Ronald Yeo > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
