Re: [newbie] Java VM Problems

2004-12-26 Thread Simon Roberts
in a terminal: cd to the directory that has your java install; change to the 
subdirectory "bin"; type "./java -version"

If that doesn't run java and tell you stuff about it, it's either not 
executable (which suggests you did the install wrong, or not as root perhaps) 
or really screwed up. Having old versions around can sometimes cause confusion 
if it finds one binary for java but mismatched libs and .jars.

If it does run when you do it like that, then you mistyped your path stuff, or 
perhaps the thing isn't executable as the user your trying to run the program 
as.

-Original Message-
From: Josenildo Marques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Dec 26, 2004 11:46 AM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] Java VM Problems

On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 10:52 +, J wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I've just installed J2RE 1.4.2_06 on my machine.
> 
> Trouble is, I'm trying to install LimeWire (the P2P program), and I keep 
> getting told that there is no VM on my machine. Thats crap! I know 
> full well there is! :-)
> 
> Now, It's installed to /usr/java (where I always used to install it), 
> and my .bash_profile has been suitably amended for the latest version of 
> the J2RE.
> 
> I'm at a loss as to why it wont work.
> 
> .bash_profile is pasted below, just in case I have done something wrong 
> whilst modifying it, although all I have done is changed j2re1.4.2_03 to 
> j2re1.4.2_06, to bring it up to date with the latest version.
> 
> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_06
> export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
> # .bash_profile
> 
I have the latest LimeWire here and this line on .bashrc

export PATH=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/bin/:$PATH


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Re: [newbie] Internet connection issue.

2004-12-26 Thread Simon Roberts
/etc/resolv.conf is a configuration file, not an exectutable. What is in it?


-Original Message-
From: Collin White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Dec 26, 2004 9:31 AM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet connection issue.

On Saturday 25 December 2004 01:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What does /etc/resolv.conf look like? Did you by chance install tmdns when
> you were adding packages? This sounds like a DNS problem.  It may be that
> one of the name servers in resolv.conf is not returning valid IP
> addresses, but is returning something.  (No responce form a name server
> would resultiung in a delay of about 90 seconds while it times out, plus
> however long the next one takes...)
>
> Mikkel

When I do /etc/resolv.comf from root, I get a message saying 
"bash: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied"  How can I see what it contains?

The lack of connection is not a time out issue; that is an error 
message is 
returned immediately rather than after a pause.  I have bind installed, but 
not tmdns.  Are there any other programs which may be causing conflicts?

Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] Help for MrPostman : Java Problem!

2004-12-21 Thread Simon Roberts
You don't have a java problem, you have a path problem. Modify your path to 
point at the directory that contains the java binaries (probably something like 
/j2sdk1.4.2_06/bin or similar) and you'll be in business.

Cheers,
Simon

-Original Message-
From: Hemal Detroja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Dec 21, 2004 6:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Help for MrPostman : Java Problem!

Hi

As Java is the basic dependency for MrPostman, I installed
j2re-1.4.2_06-fcs from www.sun.com! Is it the same as JVM 

If so, then still I am not able to run java!

I am getting "bash : Java : Command not found" as follows:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] xxx]$ java -version
bash: java: command not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED] xxx]$


Do you know what should I install to get java going on my computer
for Mrpostman.

Raj.


--- John Layt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:53, Hemal Detroja wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can anyone please help me to set up Yahoopops on Mandrake 10.1
> > Official ?
> >
> > Here is code, see if you have anything to offer!
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Raj.
> 
> Dunno about that, but I've had better success with MrPostman at 
> http://mrpostman.sourceforge.net/, which not only gives you Yahoo,
> but 
> Hotmail too.  It's in Java, so you only need a JVM installed, no
> compiling 
> required.
> 
> John
> 
> > 
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Re: [newbie] How to compare two files?

2004-12-17 Thread Simon Roberts
diff compares text files, cmp compares binaries.

Cheers,
Simon


-Original Message-
From: Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Dec 17, 2004 2:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] How to compare two files?

Hi.

Suppose that a large text file has been slightly modified by another person,
and I want to find out 'a posteriori' what changes were done.
Is there a linux command (or set of commands) that can compare the two files
and tell what lines are different from one another?

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] /bin/sh: bad interpreter

2004-12-13 Thread Simon Roberts
The syntax that works for you ("sh xyz") says "start a shell, and have that 
shell read this file, and follow the instructions in it". To do that, you must 
have read permission for the file. By contrast "./xyz" says "execute this file" 
and for that, you must have execute permission :) These two really are handled 
differently, in the first case, you'll get by without the "#!/bin/bash" at the 
first line of the file, in the second case, the kernel loads the file, then 
examines it to determine _how_ to execute it (parsing, as it does so, the 
#!/blah, which tells it that it has a script and what interpreter to invoke).

What seems really odd to me is that every other shell I've ever used 
(including, I thought bash in the past/on other Unixen) say "cannot execute" if 
they find the file you name as $0 on a command line doesn't have execute 
permission for you. So, this error is really bizzare in my book. But whatever, 
once you know, you can handle it, right?

Cheers,
Simon


-Original Message-
From: Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Dec 13, 2004 4:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] /bin/sh: bad interpreter

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:42:47 -0700 (GMT-07:00), Simon Roberts
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bad interpreter is the error bash gives when the script isn't executable.
> 
> Do
> 
>   chmod +x LinxuxInstaller.bin
> 
> and it'll probably be happy.
> 
> (Anyone know why it does this strange thing?)

Simon,

It is strange, as if I go to the directory where LinxuxInstaller.bin is and I do

sh ./LinuxInstaller.bin

LinxuxInstaller.bin runs!

Paul




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Re: [newbie] /bin/sh: bad interpreter

2004-12-12 Thread Simon Roberts
Bad interpreter is the error bash gives when the script isn't executable.

Do

  chmod +x LinxuxInstaller.bin

and it'll probably be happy.

(Anyone know why it does this strange thing?)

Cheers,
Simon


-Original Message-
From: Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Dec 12, 2004 9:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] /bin/sh: bad interpreter

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 10:28:31 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am trying to install a program using the following command inside a
> > the script installMapleLinuxSU:
> >
> > sh ./LinuxInstaller.bin
> >
> > but I get the error:
> >
> > bash: ./installMapleLinuxSU: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied.
> > 
> Check if LinuxInstaller.bin is a script, and if it is, look at the first
> line.  It should be #!/ where  is the interpreter
> for running the script.  One problem that is still fairly common is that
> the full path will be provided, but it will be the wrong one for your
> system.  If it is /usr/local/bin, try changing it to /usr/bin and see if
> it works.  Or you can run "witch " where  is the
> interpreter without the path.  This will return the path if the command
> can be found.

Thanks, Mikkel and Todd. Meanwhile, by running LinuxInstaller.bin
directly, I was able to install the software I wanted to install.

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Re: [newbie] Sound system compatibility

2004-12-11 Thread Simon Roberts
Many thanks Frans, this moved me forward a lot. I've got my hands on an Edirol 
UA-3FX, which--as Murphy would insist--isn't on the list! Given that pretty 
much all the Edirols seem to be listed as working, I'm hoping this might just 
be a newer device that hasn't been tried yet. So I plugged it in, but I don't 
know how to access it. I tried some of the sound players, hoping they'd have 
some option that would say "hey, which of these sound devices do you want to 
use?" but they just kept on playing out of the built-in sound system that's on 
the motherboard.

Does anyone know where I should be looking for config info to tell the audio 
tools to look for this thing (assuming, of course, that it's acually doing it's 
thing). I looked for a "USB howto" on the ALSA site, but haven't found any 
mention of it (there is a USB/MIDI howto, but I'm not into MIDI, I want to 
record "live" sound)

Thanks again

-Original Message-

On Friday 10 December 2004 23:49, Simon Roberts wrote:
...
> I would like to use a USB sound system on MDK 10.1. Are these systems
> built to a standard, such that "any" USB sound card will work, or
> does each have it's own proprietary driver protocols, such that none
> of them will work?
...

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ says: All USB devices that are 
standards compliant will work. If they do not please report to the 
mailing lists.

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Roland_Edirol#matrix
 
lists the Roland/Edirol devices.

HTH,

-Frans





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[newbie] Sound processing: Center removal

2004-12-10 Thread Simon Roberts
Can anyone tell me which (if any) of the many sound processing tools can do 
"center removal" under MDK?

My daughter wants to sing Karaoke to some stuff, and I'd like to get the lyrics 
out.

Cheers,
Simon



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[newbie] Sound system compatibility

2004-12-10 Thread Simon Roberts
Sorry to ask this, as it's probably in the HW compatiblity lists if I only knew 
what to look for.

I would like to use a USB sound system on MDK 10.1. Are these systems built to 
a standard, such that "any" USB sound card will work, or does each have it's 
own proprietary driver protocols, such that none of them will work?

The one I like the look of is made by Edirol, and can do 24 bit conversion at 
up to 48Khz, it also has some funky features that I'm not so worried about if 
they can't be made to work.

Is this likely to be workable, or are USB sound systems to freaky to 
contemplate?

Cheers,
Simon



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[newbie] Windows "Security"

2004-12-02 Thread Simon Roberts
> From: "H.J.Bathoorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
...
> On Thursday 02 December 2004 10:26, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> > Maybe I'm paranoid, but after that experience we don't allow her
> > Windows box contact with anything outside her room.

> You are;) Confined to the LAN can't really hurt can it, especially with 
> static 
> IP and a dedicated router/firewall.

I broadly agree that if you have a simple firewall (the typical NAT setup is 
probably enough) between your windows and the big bad world, you're not going 
to be too badly off. But, and it's a big but, the thing this doesn't address is 
the horrors of "ordinary users" using email and web-browsing. These horrors are 
compounded by the default configuration of many of the tools they use (notably 
IE and Outlook). These things will, by default, download and execute various 
things you probably didn't want. This is compounded by the average user's 
response to the typical security warning which they read as:

Blah blah blah, if you want this to work, you have to press "OK"

Instead of

Blah blah, this guy seriously wants you to trust your entire machine and 
everything on it to him. Just how well do you know him again, that you'd let 
him rummage in your bank and tax records, and all your dirty laundry? Clearly 
this function isn't worth it, right?

But, if you browse/email sensibly and turn off all the clever stuff (or at 
least have it prompt you and say no if you can) then yes it's not too terrible. 
 (HAve you seen how many web-pages launch some kind of script or active-x that 
has no significant impact on the page you're looking at? I'd guess almost 1 in 
3. I have my browser--rather irritatingly--set to prompt before executing 
anything, and about the only time I let it do anything is when I'm downloading 
a PDF, which it considers in the same category as any other script. You get 
used to hitting "No" which fortunately is the default on this browser.

Cheers,
Simon



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Re: [newbie] (OT) I hate to be asking this... (Windows Related)

2004-12-01 Thread Simon Roberts
Build him a firewall out of a $150 PC (P-III 400 or similar), or use one of 
those router/switches that includes NAT. The D-Link ones, with an 802.11b 
wireless thing and NAT are about $50, and will probably keep a lot more out 
(leave the wireless disabled unless you really want it) than you'll be able to 
do with hardening windows yourself. I take it he's not a game player looking 
for P2P connectivity (which many of these NAT boxes can handle tolerably well, 
but it'll reduce their effectiveness some I think).

Otherwise, there's a fairly reasonable couple of books from Osborne/McGraw Hill 
in the "HackNotes" series. One is called "Network Security" and the other one 
"Windows Security." They seem to enumerate most of the known weaknesses and 
advise on how to handle them. The big problem seems to me to be that if you 
don't put a firewall up, you'll end up shutting down so many services that the 
system probably won't be as useable as he'll want.

Of course, the firewall-only solution won't handle the massive insecurities of 
email and web-browsers in unwise hands. A little education might help him, 
along with virus scanners and spyware detectors. Good luck, you're probably 
going to need it ;>

Symantec has a useful "test yourself" scanner that you can launch at yourself 
from a web browser which will warn of some of the worst excesses (again, 
excluding email and web pages that install nasties) that are common in Windows 
systems. (You'll find that you show up clean to their tests simply by 
installing that NAT box).

HTH,
Cheers,
Simon


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Sent: Dec 1, 2004 4:33 PM
To: 'Drake Newbies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [newbie] (OT) I hate to be asking this... (Windows Related)

Okay, so here's what's going on. I had ~thought~ I'd sold my dad on
letting me install Mandrake for him instead of windows when we
formatted his box to take care of the serious infestation he has going
in the thing... however, since I'd gotten him to agree, he's changed
his mind *Grumbles* So now I'm stuck with the evil and daunting task
of reinstalling windows and securing it so it doesn't get reinfected.
Ug.

So what I need from you guys? I remember there was a thread where one
of the members of our list was struggling with a windows computer for
something school related for his daughter. In the process of the
discussion, someone mentioned a site that one could download all the
windows updates from one spot (SP2 not included, I hope) so I could
download it on my mandrake box, and burn it to CD so I don't have to
plug my dad's computer into the Internet until I've got updates,
firewall/s, anti-virus program/s and Spyware Removal tool/s installed
and all the extra dren from HP that's not needed removed.

I tried searching the archives, but my search engine skills have never
been strong, especially when I'm using anything other than google. So
if someone could provide me with a quick link, I'd be grateful.
Though, I suppose, the other option is to just not bother, do a clean
install as HP instructs, and wait for the box to frell itself again,
and drive my dad to switching to Linux (or at least to buy a mac). But
as much as I'm sure some of you would rather encourage me to try the
latter option, I don't like the idea of all the extra work needed for
that, since it'll require the windows install, then the backup process
again, then the fresh mandrake install. And since this is an HP box,
I'm not sure how much of it is windows only sorts of hardware. All it
takes is my dad not being able to use one part of his computer he
needs, and he'll throw a fit and just go and buy a new windows
machine. Bah.

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Amy

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[newbie] Thanks Re: Where are the compilers etc.?

2004-12-01 Thread Simon Roberts
Wonderful, thanks. I had gtk+2 but not libgtk??!! So what I "knew" I had 
installed wasn't what it wanted anyway.

Thanks for the help with the urpmi command, and to Anne for the link to the 
Wiki site.

My compile seems to be running now, so fingers crossed I should be OK now.

Thanks again to all,
Simon


-Original Message-
From: Björn Lundin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Dec 1, 2004 11:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Re: Where are the compilers etc.?

Simon Roberts wrote:

> Many thanks for input received, I've moved forward some. (I had entirely
> missed the urpmi tool; very useful.)
> 
> I've now installed gcc-c++, kernel sources of the correct version, gtk+2,
> and all the dependent things that urpmi added to the list. When I say:
> 
>   urpmi glib
> 
> or
>   urpmi glib2
> 
> I'm told that everything is already installed. However, I still have no
> "glib*.h" anywhere, and ./configure still complains that GTK+ and GLIB are
> not installed (or are installed incorrectly).
> 
> There's a config.log file that might tell more about it. If anyone's
> willing to take a look I'd be happy to send that on.
> 
> Can anyone offer any more suggestions?
> 
Did you install the header rpms ie libgtk+2.0_0-devel?

try urpmi --fuzzy gtk 2>&1 | grep devel 
for other packages.

Or if you know what the missing file is called:
urpmf 
which gives you the package

example, I'm looking for the package containing 'libgnat.a'

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bnl]# urpmf libgnat.a
gcc-gnat:/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.3.2/adalib/libgnat.a


that is, I can find it in 'gcc-gnat' 
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Re: [newbie] Where are the compilers etc.?

2004-12-01 Thread Simon Roberts
Many thanks for input received, I've moved forward some. (I had entirely missed 
the urpmi tool; very useful.)

I've now installed gcc-c++, kernel sources of the correct version, gtk+2, and 
all the dependent things that urpmi added to the list. When I say:

  urpmi glib

or
  urpmi glib2

I'm told that everything is already installed. However, I still have no 
"glib*.h" anywhere, and ./configure still complains that GTK+ and GLIB are not 
installed (or are installed incorrectly).

There's a config.log file that might tell more about it. If anyone's willing to 
take a look I'd be happy to send that on.

Can anyone offer any more suggestions?

Cheers,
Simon



-Original Message-
From: "H.J.Bathoorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

...
> I've installed Mandrake 10.1, and was attempting to build some software on
> it that demands glib.h. I can see that glib2 is installed, but there's no
> header file for it anywhere on the system.
...

Did you install your kernel sources?you need those!

Do "uname -r" to find out what kernel you're running and get the fitting 
kernel-source package.. NOT the srpm!
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[newbie] Where are the compilers etc.?

2004-12-01 Thread Simon Roberts
Greetings all, I have probably missed something obvious, as I fear this is a 
really simple question:

I've installed Mandrake 10.1, and was attempting to build some software on it 
that demands glib.h. I can see that glib2 is installed, but there's no header 
file for it anywhere on the system.

I fetched the most recent glib2 source distribution and tried to compile it, 
but it complains that I must have gettext too. I fetched that and tried to 
compile it, and it complains that it can't find the g++ compiler (or any other 
C++ compiler for that matter). I looked around, and it's telling the truth, the 
gcc compiler is in place, but there's nothing for g++.

I used the three disk "community" edition set for 10.1, and I told the little 
config screen that I wanted the development tools, compilers, documentation, 
well, everything on that dialog box actually, and the glib, glib2, and 
glib-devel rpms are all installed, but still no glib.h and no gcc.

Can anyone tell me what I have missed please?

Cheers,
Simon



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