Re: [newbie] Maximum Linux

[eryl]

Steve wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Glenn Johnson wrote:
> 
> > Hi all. Has anyone here had a subscription to Maximum Linux magazine? If
> > so, have you heard or seen anything about what's happening with our
> > subscriptions now that the maggy is defunct?
> >
> 
> They've closed the magazine - a few months ago. Used to have a website,
> did you try it?
> 
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve - ICQ 35454764
> Toronto

When they closed down, they said they were going to finish out the Max
Linux subscription with another "appropriate" computer related magazine
(the same company publishes Maximum PC and a bunch of other).  At the
time, I chose a refund via e-mail (and, since I had subscribed at a
discount rate, when I got my check it was for the amount of an
undiscounted subscription--about $4.00 more).  I'd rather had the
magazine, though--I really liked their cover disks--mdk7.1 was one they
had, which I gave to a friend who is now completely converted to 'nix. 
Writing was actually pretty good, also.  Hard to believe, but their
staff was something like 4 people.

eryl

Re: [newbie] More DNS problems HELP!

[eryl]

civileme wrote:
> 
>   
> > #cat /etc/sysconfig/network
> >
> > NETWORKING=yes
> > FORWARD_IPV4=false
> > Hostname=Hilltop5.Hilltop
> > DOMAINNAME=Hilltop
> 
> Add this
> 
> GATEWAY="206.58.160.254"
> GATEWAYDEV="ppp0"
> or whatever gateway device you use in place of ppp0


Edited /etc/sysconfig/network:

8(  No joy--

> Now if you had ethernet cards as well as modem to the internet you had to do
> exactly this:
> 
> Clear all networking by running Draknet from Control Center
> Setup Local network and exit
> Go back and add the modem
> Make the modem your internet interface.

I don't usually use graphical configurators, but I tried Draknet.  Here
it gets weird. I opened Mandrake Control Center, Network and Internet,
Connection.  Under the Internet Connection tab, I hit connect, and the
kppp dialer box came up.  I connected and got an error message "The
system doesn't seem to be connected to the internet, please try to
reconfigure your connection".  I hit the expert mode box and a window
popped up.  Under "login ID" was the friendly name of my IP.  Under
"password" was the friendly name of my IP.  I tried to change them, but
I couldn't (I can highlight, but not edit).  I cannot delete that
particular profile, either.  In fact, I can't do anything in that window
but highlight.  I was able to edit (and delete) my LAN configuration. 
Is this a bug?

eryl

Re: [newbie] More DNS problems HELP!

[eryl]

civileme wrote:
> 


> What does /etc/sysconfig/network
> and /etc/dydconfig/draknet*
> 
> have for entries?  (Use less or cat)
> 
> Civileme
> 

#cat /etc/sysconfig/network

NETWORKING=yes
FORWARD_IPV4=false
Hostname=Hilltop5.Hilltop
DOMAINNAME=Hilltop

#cat /etc/dydconfig/draknet*

no such file or directory


I tried it with my 7.2 boxes, too, and the results matched exactly,
except for Hostnames.

eryl

Re: [newbie] More DNS problems HELP!

[eryl]

civileme wrote:

> Your default gateway is what?
> 
> Civileme

> 
The default gateway for my ISP is 206.58.160.254, setup in the kppp
dialup window.  I tried adding:
ppp 206.58.160.254 in resolv.conf on the mdk8.0 box, but it didn't make
any difference (hopefully that was the correct format).

I can ping my isp's DNS server address, but ping by name fails.  Lan
ping by name works to all local machines.  I also tried in resolv.conf
"search my_isp_name.net" as well as "search localhost".  

> >
> > and my resolv.conf:
> >
> > search Hilltop
> >
> > nameserver 206.58.160.250
> > nameserver 206.58.160.249
> >
> >
> > This is exactly the same on all 5 machines, but the mdk 8.0 box
> > (Hilltop5) won't work with it.  Any suggestions before I format and
> > put 7.2 on this machine for good.
> >
> > eryl

[newbie] dns and mdk8.0

[eryl]

I've been off the list for a couple of months, but I've got a name
resolve problem that's driving me nuts, so here I am again.

My mdk 8.0 box fails to resolve hostnames after connecting to my isp.  
I've even re-installed thinking that something was screwed with the
original installation--to no avail.  My local lan works fine, though. 
What's weird is that my configuration files are exact copies of the
files that work on my mdk7.1 and 7.2 machines.  

here's my resolv.conf:

search myispname.net
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xx  #my isp's first dns server
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xx  #my isp's secondary dns server

This is what it is NOW, after trying a dozen other things.  My original
resolv.conf (which still works on my older mdk boxes) is:

search mylocaldomain
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xx  #my isp's first dns server
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xx  #my isp's secondary dns server

bind and dns cacheing is installed--which wasn't done by default.

The search order is:  hosts, bind
  multi on

In the kppp dial-up the box to disable other dns servers when connecting
is checked, and my isp's DNS addresses are correct.

I'm really at my wit's end, and am convinced that mdk8.0 has done
"something" differently than the earlier distro's, so that I need to
change or create a configuration that I haven't before.  Any help would
be appreciated.

And, btw, nslookup doesn't give me anything--just a > after a little
message that says it's obsolete.  And, after connecting, I can't ping my
isp--destination host unreachable.  And, I repeat, my config files are
EXACT copies of those on my other boxes--only the localhost name/address
is changed to protect the innocent.  Kppp is set up exactly the same way
on all the boxes.

eryl

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 & 'make' woes

[eryl]

I echo this.  Do   rpm -q make

If you get a return of  "make-3.79.1-5mdk" you have it installed.  If
you did a "workstation" install, it isn't, and you won't get that
return.  You can go back to your install disks and put it on your
machine, however.  There may be some more rpm's that you need before you
can to ./configure, but they are all on the install disks.

eryl

michael wrote:
> 
> Did you install "development" version?
> 
> Dave Wilson wrote:
> 
> > Okay, I did a fresh complete install of Mandrake 7.2 (using discs from the
> > Complete box set).  My problem is when I extract a tarball and ./configure
> > it, I get errors when I use the 'make' command.  I would think that Mandrake
> > would have everything necessary to do this included on the install, so
> > perhaps I am doing something wrong.  Much thanks in advance for any and all
> > help.
> >
> > dave
> > _
> > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Re: [newbie] Linux Neighborhood

[eryl]

I'm guessing that you want LinNeighborhood, the gui interface for
mounting samba shares?

If so, go to http://www.google.com and do a search for LinNeighborhood
(note the two "N"s).  You will find the program.  By the way, it is a
good one--I can't live without it.

After installing it, if you have trouble configuring, post again to the
list and one of us will help you.

eryl

Yulianto Hartadi wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have been using Linux Mandrake 7.2.
> How can I install Neighborhood program in my desktop ?
> Where can i download that program ?
> 
> Thanks for your help

Re: [newbie] Aureal sound card problem

[eryl]

The Aureal chipset is not "officially" supported by linux--even though
drakconf detects it.  However, excellent drivers are available.  Do a
search on sourceforge or go here:

http://www.geocities.com/bofh_666/aureal.html

There is an excellent set of installation instructions there, also.  I
have a Turtle Beach (Aureal) in one of my machines, I use the bofh
drivers, and the sound is outstanding, I assure you.

eryl

Praveen Mishra wrote:
> 
> I have au8810 3d sound card. I could not play my cd. It works fine with my
> windows system and is also detected perfectly by drakeconf.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Praveen Mishra.
> (Spend 51% time in linux)

Re: [newbie] 7.1 to 7.2 dilemma

[eryl]

NO,NO,NO, don't upgrade from 7.1 to 7.2--do a fresh install.  If you use
Gnome, like I do, I don't think I'd bother just now.  KDE2.x is pretty,
but I still like Gnome, and IMO, Gnome is more stable.  If I were you
I'd just wait for the stable version of mdk 8.0 and get the 2.4 kernel. 
I say this after installing 7.2 on all but one of machines.  That one
runs NT server, and I'm waiting for 8.0 and plan on running Reiserfs on
it.

eryl


Hugo GONZALEZ wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I've been very happy with my Mandrake 7.1 with Heix Gnome. I was considering to move 
>to 7.2, but I really don't want to do a complete reinstall. I guess 7.2 offers an 
>upgrade option. If so,
> 
> 1)Is this upgrade reliable enonough to consider it as an option to a full install?
> 
> 2)Is it worth the migration from 7.1 to 7.2?
> 
> Thanks in advance!!
> 
> Hugo

Re: [newbie] logs..

[eryl]

Dale Kosan wrote:
> 
> Hello, in the /var/log directory I am seeing a whole bunch of tar.gz
> logs, I assume these are old and that logrotate generated them.Are
> they safe to delete if I don't need them? Thanks in advance

Not a problem--nuke em.  And, I always change my /etc/logrotate.conf
so that the rotation is "rotate 1" instead of "rotate 4" and change all
references from "monthly" to "weekly"

In a home or small office setup I see no need for all these logs, and if
they are on a small /var partition they can fill it and choke the system
in a really short time.

Re: [newbie] Win98 CDROM drive gone after RedHat Linux 7

[eryl]

Sergio Carmona wrote:
> 
> It all started when I installed RedHat Linux 7.0 in my PII 300 Machine with 64 Ram
> The config was as follows:
> 
> Primary Master: Win98
> Primary Slave: Linux
> Secondary Master: IDE CDROM
> 
> I logged in Linux with KDE and tried to access my CDROM, I did with no 
> The CDROM still powers on with the computer and works fine on linux but I can't use 
>it under Win98 anymore
> 
> does anyone know why did this happen?
> Any ideas on how to fix it?


That is definitely a Windows problem.  Check your Windows Device
Properties, and look to see if you are running in "MSDOS Compatibilty
Mode".  I'll bet that you either have a problem with your ide controller
(chip driver not installed or not installed properly), your master/slave
jumper for the cdrom, or you have installed a Windows program that loads
a driver before the ide controller vxd.  Hit the F8 before the Windows
splash screen and choose to keep a bootlog.txt file so you can look
through it and see what has failed to load.  


I don't think that having hda as master and hdb as slave on ide1 and the
CD as master on ide2 would cause that, but if in doubt, it's easy to
change the CdRom to slave on ide1 and make hdb the master on ide2.

Good luck, and let us know what you find.

Re: [newbie] Dual boot: Mandrake and NT question??

[eryl]

Michael wrote:
> 
> I actually installed Boot Magic along with Partition Magic and I lost
> access to my D Drive (NTFS), on the install.  I called PQ and they
> helped me straighten it out.  They said not to install Boot Magic until
> the Linux install was completed.  This is one of the reasons I asked if
> there were any more little surprises to expect.

> 
> I've read a tutorial about not installing LILO in the MBR, instead,
> configure LILO and place it on the Linux Primary partition.  But then it
> said to add a line in the NT boot.ini file, (C:\BOOTSECT.LIN="Now Linux
> is here")
> and use dd to create a boot record image(# dd if=/dev/hda3 bs=512
> count=1 of=/dosc/bootsect.lin), and boot from the NTLoader.  Is this
> what you are talking about?
> 
> Michael
> 

Exactly.  I've been using this method exclusively for quite a while, and
it works perfectly.  I also use this with W2K, I tried using lilo to
control the boot process with W2k on a couple of installs, but W2k
didn't like that at all.

here's the link to a how to:

http://morse.colorado.edu/itplab/ipv6/dualboot.html

Re: [newbie] Dual boot: Mandrake and NT question??

[eryl]

If you've installed boot magic and are booting the ntloader from it, it
will be a piece of cake.  Don't use DiskDrak to format your partitions
though, use the existing formatted partitions you made with partition
magic and just assign them / and /home and /swap, etc. and don't put
lilo in the mbr.  For some reason, a couple of times I had a problem
with the partition table (as viewed from partition magic) if I formatted
the already partition magic created ext2 partitions with DiskDrak.  The
installation worked fine and boot magic worked fine, but partition magic
would no longer load.  The last dozen or so times I've used the NT
bootloader instead, it is a bit more difficult but eliminates the need
for more software. 


Michael wrote:
> 
> I have a Dell Lattitude CPX Laptop running NT Workstation 4.0.  I want
> to install Linux, and have defragged my drives and installed Partition
> Magic 5.0 to re-partition the NTFS file system and have created my
> rescue disks and the system backed up.
> 
> Is there anything anything else I should be aware of, specific to NT,
> before attempting the install?  I have already installed Mandrake on my
> desktop which is also running Win95 and that went relatively smooth.
> Just checking;-)
> --
> Michael Lewis
> Registered Linux User #197864

Re: [newbie] boot.ini

[eryl]

Leland L Waters wrote:
> 
> I have win2000Pro biggyback with win98se on the primary partition and
> Mandrake 7.2 on the extended partition.
> 
> What line do I add to boot.ini to boot linux from the windows bootloader.
> 
> Lee

It's a bit more complicated than that, but not much. You have to make a
dos copy of lilo and put that in your root directory, then edit your
boot.ini

For complete instructions, 

Go here:  http://morse.colorado.edu/itplab/ipv6/dualboot.html

Re: [newbie] Linux for 486

[eryl]

I've run Caldera (can't remember the version) on a 486/25 with a 640Meg
harddrive and 16 meg of ram.  KDE worked o.k. for me, and the system was
faster than 3.1 and way faster than W95 (which I once tried on that
machine).  

With 4meg of ram, I just don't think you'll be able to run any
windowmanager except maybe blackbox or windowmaker.  KDE and Gnome are
out of the question.  



Édison Andrés wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody.
> 
> I'm looking for a Linux versión for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
> procesor of 50 MHz.
> 
> I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
> station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?
> 
> Thanks for all.
> 
> --

Re: [newbie] sound card thinks its a CDrom

[eryl]

Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote:

> I have a winmodem in my laptop and I have reached it to telephon, but it
> doesn't work well (this was made using lucent modules). I think that the
> better solution is buy a cheap external modem, they work fine; try with your
> Texas external modem.
> 
> I hope this could help you.
> 
> Francisco Alcaraz
> Murcia (Spain)
> 

Francisco, if you can connect, but it takes several tries, you might try
changing your modem initialization string.  I have a Cirrus Logic chip
that would connect, but often taking several redials.  I looked up
"modem initialization string" in Google, and visited several sites that
had several different strings listed for my modem.  I started trying
them until I found one that really works.  Now I can connect first time,
every time.  Worth a try!

Re: [newbie] It's all LUCK, and mine was BAD

[eryl]

donald hinds wrote:
> 
> I put in a standard LM-7.2 setup from a 4 CD set.
> 
> First it took two weeks to figure out what was wrong in fstab so I could mount
> the CDROM (and Mandrakesoft couldn't help), and finding a place to  put
> mem=56K so the shared video ram would work.
> 
> Still no one can tell me how to use a USB modem. The kernel supports it, my
> modem is listed as a supported modem (linux-usb org), LM-7.2 put in a huge
> amount of USB files and recognized two USB ports.
> 
> I still get a Aieee kernel panic, swapper no syncing error if I boot in
> anything but graphical mode.
> 
> Corel Photo loads but won't run because Fonttastic is missing. The MAndrake
> help page give directions to install it from the Install CD, but it is not on
> the Install CD.
> 
> Corel WP-8 won't install, not from the Wbesite, not from two differenct CD's,
> one of them a Mandrake 6.5 CD.
> 
> Windows may crash a lot, but at least it WORKS in between crashing. What good
> is Linux not crashing, if you can't get anything working?
> 
> I'm new to Linux, but not to computers. I do tech support for modems. I can
> follow instructions, but when it says (man 8 mount) to look in
> /linux/fs/filesystems.c for a list of supported filesystems, when /linux/fs
> directory doesn't exist how can you do anything???
> When it tells you to load 'fonttastic rpms' from the Install CD and it
> doesn't exist what can you do???
> 
> Don
> 
>
Face it--Linux is not for everybody.  First, if you're going to install
linux be very careful about what hardware you put in your machine. USB
modems may work, but avoid the hassle of a "new" technology and get a
modem that is proven to work with the operating system.  I use NT4.0 a
lot, and hardware is definitely easier to configure with linux.  But,
NT4 is the MS equivalent of linux, and you wouldn't even THINK about
anything USB with 4.0, would you?  By the way, the Mem= solution is
posted all over the internet (I had the same problem a couple of years
ago and found it in 15 minutes).  And sometimes, the BEST learning
experience is to re-install and re-install until you get it right. 
Especially when dealing with X-servers--and since you have a vidcard
built into the mobo--well, I see that as a problem right from the
get-go.  Linux does not work well with with half-assed hardware
solutions.  
The only card that I'll even consider when built into a mobo is scsi. 
I've gotten soundcards and video cards to work, but they were a hassle
every time.  Once you've made the same mistake a couple of times, then
it'll sink in (not a criticism, I've been there--many times).

Second, linux actually has several different versions, with the file
systems slightly different.  Where one system (which the help file is
written for) says a file is may not be exactly correct.  It's a failure
of the help file, and possible one of the "forking" difficulties that is
being talked about all over the linux community.

And finally, check the archives of this list for the problems associated
with the "fontastic install".  I recall someone posting the solution to
this within the past month.  I seem to recall someone posting a
difficulty with WP8 fairly recently, too--I didn't pay much attention
since I've installed it on 7.0 and 7.1 and then never used it.

Re: [newbie] Windows 2000 dualboot... doesn't boot!

[eryl]

> >
> when i had a dual boot system grub used to mess the windoze boot loader
> every time i had to make any modification to grub eg a kernel update.
> i noticed the windows bit now showed some numbers in brackets that were not
> there before.
> while  booted in linux i went to the grub config file in a text editor and
> removed these lines and saved it
> that worked for me.

Didn't always work for me 8(.
This problem is exactly why I always use the Win2K/NT Bootloader instead
of Lilo/Grub.  Once configured, the only thing I ever have to do when
upgrading/changing my Linux system is to always put lilo on the first
linux partition.

[Fwd: Re: [newbie] Browser Problem]

[eryl]

I screwed this one up didn't I?  I meant Windows Managers, not
Xservers.  Brain in neutral, again.

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [newbie] Browser Problem
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:00:27 -0800
From: eryl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

John David Molina wrote:
> 
> El Lunes 12 Febrero 2001 01:45, escribiste:
> > Dear List,
> >
> > Running LM7.2; whenever I use Netscape 4.75 or Konqueror for a few
> > minutes browsing, it _always_ shuts down (or more approriately, the
> > application dies), and I'm returned to the desktop or worst to the login
> > screen.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
> 
> --
> I have the same problem What's going on? Is it a security issue?
> John David Molina

Can you log back into X with no problem after this happens, or does the
desktop appear and then a crash occur when the system restores the
previous settings?  Does this happen with all the Xservers, or just with
KDE?

Re: [newbie] Browser Problem

[eryl]

John David Molina wrote:
> 
> El Lunes 12 Febrero 2001 01:45, escribiste:
> > Dear List,
> >
> > Running LM7.2; whenever I use Netscape 4.75 or Konqueror for a few
> > minutes browsing, it _always_ shuts down (or more approriately, the
> > application dies), and I'm returned to the desktop or worst to the login
> > screen.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
> 
> --
> I have the same problem What's going on? Is it a security issue?
> John David Molina

Can you log back into X with no problem after this happens, or does the
desktop appear and then a crash occur when the system restores the
previous settings?  Does this happen with all the Xservers, or just with
KDE?

Re: [newbie] Epson_777

[eryl]

Jon Doe wrote:
> 
> On Friday 16 February 2001 12:43 am, s loudly grumbled:
> > Ok, what's the trick?  :)
> >
> > I've tried through cups.  I've downloaded a 'driver' from linuxprinting and
> > followed directions.  What is the trick to get it to work?  It is supposed
> > to be "perfectly" supported, so I know that there must be a way.  But when
> > it sends a test page to it's daemon, I get the big nothing.
> > Tia,
> > -s
> >
> > Mandrake 7.2
> > cups-1.1.3-13mdk
> > GNU Ghostscript 5.50
> > gimp-1.1.25-12mdk
> 
> i had the same problem, and found that if you configure and have lpr starting
> up at boot then cups won't work. After I removed lpr it worked fine.
> 
> --
> Registered Linux User #181996

And I got mine to work by setting the postscript to "Type 1" using
SPAdmin (the default is type 2)--run spadmin as root.  Give it a
try--can't hurt.

Re: [newbie] System is becoming slower

[eryl]

Mark Johnson wrote:
> 
> I installed 7.2 on a K6 200 w/ 128MB and 10G 5400rpm drive.  I was dubious
> that linux could run on such a system, but it actually ran way better than
> expected until now.  Now having been used everyday for about a month things
> are getting progressively slower. Whenever I'm running Konquerer it seems to
> be just beating the hell out of my HD. Sometimes when I go to logout nothing
> happens I have to actually power down the computer - (I guess I could just
> kill X from the command line?).  It's taking forever to boot up and to
> startup applications.
> 
> If this was windows I would say that these are symptoms of a fragmented HD.
> Does the HD get fragmented in Linux too?
> 
> What should I do short of a reformat and install to freshen things up?

Sounds like your /var might be getting full (is it a separate
partition).  You might want to delete the zipped /var/log messages and
then adjust chron so that it rotates the logs more often.

Re: [newbie] want my linux work faster and networking

[eryl]

> Tafta Zani wrote:
> 
> hi guys,
> 
> I have heard that linux is relatively faster then windows.
> But why do windows can open such large application like MS Word 2000
> in less than five seconds but LM 7.2 needs more than that to open Star
> Office 5.2

SO is a real pig.  It basically takes over your entire machine, desktop
and all.  That's why it takes so long to open.  If you want to be lean
and mean, use abiword or give koffice a try.
> 
> Could any body recommend me something to be done (kernel compiling,
> turning off services, upgrade kernel, hdparm or something) ?

Probably won't help, because of the inherent design of the SO
application.
> 
> By the way, where should I go if I want to learn basic
> networking under Linux

go here:

  http://www.q-linux.com/Tutorials_Guides/Samba/samba-Diagnosis.html

Re: [newbie] SAMBA setup/web config

[eryl]

Devin Rader wrote:
> 
> Hey all!
> 
> I am trying to set up Samba on my Linux machine but am totally lost.  
> is make sure you have the samba package installed correctly by using this
> command:
> 
> rpm -q samba
> 
> When I run this it says I don't have that package installed.

Nope, you haven't installed the package.  This happened to me when I
first installed 7.0--I didn't install smbclient either.
> 
> I never have seen the smb file in the /etc/rc.d/init.d/ directory and every
> time I try to start the daemon I get file not found errors.

That's the directory where it would be.
> 
> Any help is appreciated.

Search the Mandrake rpm's on your install disks and install samba.  It's
on the first disk (3 seperate rpm's--all for the complete samba,
samba,client and common) 
> 

This is a very useful site for getting samba up and running:

http://www.q-linux.com/Tutorials_Guides/Samba/samba-Diagnosis.html

Re: [newbie] crashing x

[eryl]

shygrrl wrote:
> 
> what version of X =)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of misha .com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] crashing x
> 
> x crashes , leaving no details 100 % of the time with no discernable pattern
> .
> 
> i have installed mandrake 7.1 and 7.2 with similar results .
> 
> there are NO irq issues , usb is disabled .
> 
> i have used every video card i own :
> 
> 3dfx vodo 3 3000 agp
> ati rage pro pci
> s3 virge dx pci
> 3d labs permedia 2v pci
> trident 9440
> sis 6326 agp
> 
> the issue is worse when i use a 3 button ( optical or ball , with or without
> a wheel ) mouse .
> 
> i have used the 7.2 upgrade cd and upgraded the system with drakconf .
> 
> the rest :
> 
> abit ka7 motherboard
> linksys nic
> creative live value sound card
> generic cd rom
> maxtor drive
> 
> the system is stable for about 3 seconds to about 24 hours . this is getting
> a little old . heard of this before ? any help with this ?
> 
> -mishaco
> 
> 
> Sign up for your free web based email today!
> http://www.n2mail.com
I'm going to take a stab in the dark here--just because this happened to
me with a Windows machine once.  My machine would spontaneously reboot,
for no discernible reason and with no apparent pattern.  Re-installing
the operating system didn't fix it.  It turned out that I had a bad
network card.  Now why that card would work perfectly well most of the
time and once in a while reboot the machine, I have no idea, but when I
changed it out the problem stopped completely.  
So, I think you have a problem with machine hardware.  Not necessarily
your nic, maybe your processor fan?  Are you sure your fan is running at
full rpm?  Possible heat issue here.  I'm an overclocker, and I've seen
exactly that symptom with a chip that wouldn't run at the o.c.'d
setting.  Could be a bad  motherboard, too, but that's a worst case
scenario.

Re: [newbie] MBR

[eryl]

John Arkoulis wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> A computer has two h/d . One is 13 GB and the other one 20GB
> I want to install Win ME (for my son's games), Win 2000 for my wife's work
> and Linux for Dad's games!!!
> I have two questions. Which is the order that I have to install the O/Ss so
> I can use LILO to boot.
> Is it true that ME needs to be at the first H/D ??
> Please help!!

Win Me first, then Win2K.  Then Linux.  My pref is to use the Win2K
bootloader instead of lilo.  For a good overview of how to do this go
here:   http://morse.colorado.edu/itplab/ipv6/dualboot.html

It's written for NT, but W2K is exactly the same.

Some gotchas you need to be aware of:

1.  WinMe must be installed in a primary partition of the first hd
2.  W2K (NT) can be installed in either a primary or logical partition
of any hd, but the boot partition (the one with the NTLDR,NTDETECT.COM,
and BOOT.INI) must be completely within the first 2 gig of the first hd
in a primary partition.
3.  Linux can be installed on any partition of any drive, but if you use
the NT bootloader LILO must be installed to the first linux partition,
not to the MBR.  And make a LINUX BOOT DISK!

Re: [newbie] CNET reviews top 7 linux distro's

[eryl]

Altoine B wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I think there was a post a couple of days ago asking about the various
> > distro of linux.  I stumbled on this and thought it might be interesting...
> >
> > http://linux.cnet.com/linux/0-2136864-7-1473248.html?tag=st.lx.1518529.bpg.2
> > 136864-7-1473248
> >
> >
> 
> That is the article over a year ago, that convinced me to try linux-mandrake and 
>corel.
> 

ROFLMAO.  I've used Debian, RedHat, Caldera, Suse, Corel and Mandrake. 
The one that I HATED was Corel.  I installed it 3 times on 2 different
machines, and I could never get it to run stable.  And it gave me fits
with stupid stuff like "auth" being set by default so that anyone
connecting to their isp would get a "ppp daemon died unexpectedly" error
on the first connect.  Plus a bunch of other stuff that drove me up the
wall.  I decided it had a pretty desktop (it did, really) so it would
make Windoze users happy, if they could figure out how to get it to run.

Re: [newbie] sound card problems with 7.2

[eryl]

Chris Russell wrote:
> 
> I have a good install of 7.2 with one exception. I can't get the sound
> card to work. I have tried a dozen different sound cards with no success.
> 
> In HardDrake, the sound card shows up but has no IRQ attached to it. If I
> type in IRQ5, I get an error that it is busy or in use. How do I find out
> what device is using IRQ 5? It is not the network card. The SCSI card bios
> says it is at IRQ 9. I baffled. HELP... I also tried ESS cards with the
> same error message.
> 
Move the sound card to another pci slot.  Be sure that PNP Operating
System in the BIOS is set to NO.  Reboot and see if that doesn't help
with sndconfig (don't forget to run sndconfig as root, and don't be in
Xwindows when you run it).

Re: [newbie] konqueror does not show SMB shares

[eryl]

Dave Sherman wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I got Samba running a few weeks ago, and just haven't had time to deal
> with this issue until now. I noticed in konqueror, that there is a
> Network icon ala Windows' Network Neighborhood. Under Network, there is
> an icon for Windows Shares. Under Windows Shares, there is an icon for
> my Windows work group, SSBS. However, there are no computers under
> SSBS! From other PCs, I can see my Linux box with its public folder,
> and I can perform I/O operations in it.
> 
> Upon further looking, it would seem that I can't resolve most local
> (LAN) host names. I can resolve my LAN server, but not other PCs. I
> don't know if this is related or not.
> 
> Anybody have any ideas?
> 
> Dave
> --
> Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

Look at your /etc/lmhosts and /etc/hosts

On a home network all of your networked boxes should be listed.

When in doubt, do a Google search for "Diagnosing your Samba Server". 
You will get a really useful site that will be way more help than I can
be via e-mail.  And, by the way, I much prefer LinNeighbood to Konq's.
version of network neighborhood.  It is way faster to connect to my
networked boxes--my experience with Konq is that it takes a long time--I
think it has to do with the way it resolves machine names.

Re: [newbie] No hard disk

[eryl]

Dan LaBine wrote:
> 
> Dear Micha³; You can't install Mandrake, because you don't have any free
> partitions left. You said that you had 3 - 10Gb partitions all formatted
> with DOS? you need at least one partition UNFORMATTED for Mandrake. 

One solution to this problem is to get a copy of PowerQuests Partition
Magic.  Install it in Windows, then use it to alter the size of your
partitions and free up enough space to install linux. I've done it many
times with many different operating systems.

Re: [newbie] GNOME or KDE

[eryl]

Mark Weaver wrote:
> 
> given the choice between the two I prefer KDE.
> 
> --
> Mark
> 
> "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
> "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
> 
> Linus Torvalds
> 
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Joel Fitzgerald wrote:
> 
> > What do most people prefer to use, GNOME or KDE?
> > Thanks
> >

Well, I used to be a die-hard GNOMEr, but KDE 2.0 is really pretty, and
I find myself using it a lot--like just about all the time.  BTW, I like
ICEWM too.  KDE is the desktop for green newbies fresh from Winblows,
and 2.0 can definitely convert some users to linux.  Then, the
possibilities are endless.  The only way the hardware manufacturers will
support linux is if the user base is there.  And, with the possibility
of patents on file types, and the likelyhood that almost everything will
be encrypted sometime in the future, and with the DMCA making it illegal
to reverse engineer anything with encryption, it's imperative that more
people use this system or it will be relegated to a niche market that
can only read it's own file types.

Re: [newbie] mandrake boot problem

[eryl]

> Joel Fitzgerald wrote:
> 
> Hi All, I've been in the computer game a long time but new to linux...
> I just got an old compaq 6000 PC, 200mhz Pentium Pro, with a 6gig IDE
> Maxtor HDD, IDE cdrom, Matrox MGA video card. Blank HDD to install
> linux on.
> 
> I installed mandrake a few days ago fine, no problems the instalation
> went great. The from console mode i did a reboot command. It reset and
> came up with the GRUB boot screen started linux automatically then
> almost right away says uncompressing kernel and the machine reboots.
> 
> I tried failsafe mode did the same thing. So thought easy fix, format
> the drive and reload linux back on. Did that, but on the first bootup
> after installation, the same problem occured. I've tried everything
> from different video cards to resetting the bios etc.
> 
> Any ideas? I'm ready to give up.
> 
> Joel
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My experience with spontaneous reboots is that it is a hardware problem
(has been for me every time -- I'm an overclocker).  So, my guess is
it's iffy hardware, but I can't tell you which piece is the problem.  I
once searched for 3 months on a machine before I discovered my problem
was a bad network card -- I finally found it when the darn card got so
bad it would reboot another machine when I was transferring files.  Who
would have thunk that a network card would reboot a machine?  Had the
same thing happen when an ide controller died, and bad memory did it to
me too.  Since it happens during a disk read the first thing I would
look at would be the hdd or the hd controller.  Anyway, let us know what
you find so that I can file it in the gray matter.  BTW, hardware that
is faulty may still operate with Windoze but linux is less forgiving.

Re: [newbie] =ModeM-

[eryl]

german torres wrote:
> 
> im just going to buy a modem i would like to hear some
> recommendations.:)
> thanx
> 
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
> http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

USR V-everything external.  Expensive, has every bell and whistle and
every setting is configurable.  

But really, any external serial modem will work, and work well with
linux.  I have the above modem, an old Hayes 56K external, a regular
sportster external, and a Phoebe ISA internal with a Cirrus Logic
chip--all work fine, but avoid any possible hassles and get an external
serial port modem.

Re: [newbie] Lost NT Partition

[eryl]

Adrian wrote:
>
>
> 
> 3rd -- as i said, i was considering making a linux/win98/NT4 box.  there is lots of 
>documentation out there how to do this on the net.  sure, some of it is old, but 
>everything i read was very specific about the following:
> win98 first, then linux, then NT
> *NT must be installed last because its bootloader insist on being in control*

That's not the way I normally do it, although I have used this method. 
My way is W98, then NT, then Linux.  The key is to not install lilo to
the mbr (I'm xenophobic and will probably use lilo until they don't put
it in the distros anymore--grub is new fangled stuff), and make a
bootdisk so I can copy the lilo boot record to a dos disk and then to
the root drive and then edit the NT boot.ini. Kinda involved, but, darn
it, it works flawlessly.
> 
> sure, some of this linux stuff is confusing  but if you jump in without doing 
>any research you can't be surprised when you make a mistake.  A typing error in DOS 
>can really mess up a system...
> 
> wonder what this file does
> opps...  i needed that
> opps
> what is fdisk
> ok, sure
> opps
> darn, where are those windows and dos install disk
> 

ROFLMAO--yup, it wasn't funny at the time.

> as for it not making the boot disk during the install...
> was this mandrake 7.2?

Mandrake has always given me the makebootdisk option, from 7.2 back to,
I forget, 6 something.


> i hope your next linux experience is better.

Me too.  Linux is worth the trouble, and the more of us that use it, the
better the hardware manufacturers will support the system.  When all is
said and done, Linux and NT are similar os's, designed to do the same
things.  IMO, Linux just does it better, with no secrets.

Re: [newbie] eth card not running

[eryl]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hello folks,
> In may job I have an old Pentium 200 non MMX with 32 Mb Ram, two hard
> drives (one 1,6 Gb with windows98 an other 10Gb, 6 for linux, 4 extra
> for windows). The computer it's in the University net, using an OvisLink
> LE_8019 PnP and an old Creative Vibra SB 16.
> In this computer I had Windows98 and Mandrake 7.0 running, but I decided
> to try the change to Mandrake 7.2; because the memory, I used the text
> installation and it works!!, even KDE 2.0 are running faster than the
> KDE1 with MDK 7.0, but , bad news!!!, I can't run internet.
> 
> The module is accepted, this net-card it is compatible with ne2000 and
> if I use:
> modprobe ne irq=5 io=0x300, the result is:
> eth0 NE2000 found at 0x300, using IRQ 5
> 
> If I use lsmod, then:
> ne 6544
> 8390 6208 [ne]
> 
> [I do not know if the number 8390 is important, my net-card is OVisLink
> LE-8019!, is this number related to the 8390???)
> 
> Everything seems to be running, but if I try to connect (for example,
> using lynx), then I have not connection and using dmesg I can see the
> next line:
> 
> eth0: Tx timed out, lost interrupt? TSR=0x3, ISR=0x93, t=943
> 
> (Note: the value of t is changing, I think that every time I try to
> connect).
> 
> ne module, irq 5 and io 0x300 was the configuration used with MDK 7.0
> and, as I said, it worked.
> 
> Please, could anybody help me!!!
> 
> Thanks a lot for your attention
> 
> Francisco Alcaraz
> Murcia (Spain)

I believe your sound card has a default of IRQ 5 -- you may have an
interrupt conflict between it and eth0.  Check it out and let us know.

Re: [newbie] Interrupt sharing

[eryl]

> My old machine is a Pent 200 w/64mb ram, and I need to replace it as its so
> slow as to be painful in X windows apps (Netscape 30 sec to 1 min per screen
> change).  The machine is maxxed out CPU wise, and memory could only be
> upgraded by tossing the 64mb, max is 128mb.  

Uh, Dude, I think you may have something else going on/misconfigured.  I
have a couple of P200, one with 64meg and 1 with 96, and both run pretty
darn well (the 64 meg machine is 7.1, the other 7.2).  Not a lot of
difference in speed between them and my PIII 733 with 128 meg.  In fact,
I use the 96 meg machine more than any other (I'm using it now).  A P200
is perfectly adequate for Linux, IMO.  I like Gnome, but have been
running kde2.0 on 7.2 a lot lately, and it's certainly not slow.  So, if
you can't run on a 200/64 I would refer to my first sentence.

Oh yeah, Netscape loads slow for me too--even with the 733, the nature
of the beast, but once it loads it runs pretty fast (at least as fast as
my crummy rural lines will let it).

Re: [newbie] never mind

[eryl]

Andrew Rice Jr wrote:
> 
> I have been looking all over for the command to change the host name of
> my machine running Linux Mandrake 7.1..
> 
> Does anyone know of a command to do it?
> 
> Because right now it just says localhost
> 
> ADRJ

Open DrakConf>LinuxConf-system configuration>Hostname and IP network
devices>Networking>Hostname and IP Network Devices  There you will see a
box for hostname + domain name.  Type in your Hostname.

Re: [newbie]cups & StarOffice 5.2

[eryl]

marcia wrote:
> 
> Dear All, I believe I have tried every suggestion for printing from
> StarOffice 5.2. None are working so far.  I have Mandrake 7.2. The cups
> printing works well for all applications except for StarOffice 5.2. I
> have it setup with XPP. Is there any other way to make this print from
> 5.2? My husband misses EXCEL from Microsoft but liked the StarOffice
> Spreadsheet as well once I showed him. He would happily use it instead
> of EXCEL but now I cannot print it out. Any help will be greatly
> appreciated. Thank you. Sincerely, Marcia

I have cups installed, the SO 5.2 printer driver is "Generic Printer In
queue default_queue(lpr)" and it works fine, prints color very well.

My printer is the Epson Stylus Color 740-CUPS+GIMP-print

Have you set-up your printer to print in CUPS, and then tried the
"Generic Printer" in SO that I'm using above.

Re: [newbie] Star Office

[eryl]

Kenneth Legg wrote:
> 
> I've installed star office but can not get it to run under any account other
> than root. I installed it under my own account not the root account but
> still can only run it as root. I've tried adding my self to other groups but
> can still not run the application. I also tried to change the permissions
> but without success. I'm running Mandrake 7.2 and Star Office 5.1.
> 
> Kenneth Legg

Have you tried the SO install/repair routine while logged on as "user"? 
If you have, and it still doesn't work, use the uninstall routine as
"user" and then re-install as "user".  This happened to me once, and
that's how I fixed it.

Re: [newbie] Still sound problem

[eryl]

Jordan wrote:
> 
> I'm not having much luck with sound.
> I installed Mandrake onto another computer (where again W98 has sound),
> and I get the same sort of error messages - seem to point to INT and I/O
> conflicts.
> Thing is, whatever combination of these I try, sound doesn't work. Nor
> does it help to allow the BIOS to automatically organise the PNP/ISA
> settings.
> I know at least one other person on the list has been having the same
> problem recently.
> Not much documentation on this subject to be found.
> Tried:
> hardrake
> sndconfig
> modprobe
> Lucky it's a rainy weekend.
> Anyone had this problem and fixed it?
> 
Quite likely, you've diagnosed the problem correctly.  On many
motherboards, the pci slots have IRQ's assigned to them.  With Windows,
this usually isn't a problem, because Win allows IRQ sharing with most
devices.  There are some exceptions, but generally, that is true.  Linux
doesn't share IRQ's, so if you have a card in a slot that is assigned
IRQ 10 and your ethernet card in another slot requires IRQ 10 and the
slot is assigned 10 and 11 and your video card uses 11, well, you can
see what happens.  Some motherboards simply will not allow you to change
IRQ settings for particular slots--you're stuck.  The only solution is
to move the offending card to another slot, hopefully you have a free
one and something else doesn't require the IRQ that is assigned to that
one.  Now that we have so many devices in our boxes this is a really
common occurance.  I just ran into it with the above ethernet example. 
No way the card could share an IRQ, and all my pci slots were filled. 
Moving cards didn't work, but if I pulled my modem card it would work. 
I finally installed an ISA card.

[newbie] Netscape-kppp weirdness

[eryl]

Anyone ever have kppp spontaneously spawn connection windows?  I was
reading my mail (this list), and suddenly multiple copies of the message
I was reading started to open.  I managed to "X" all of them back to my
desktop, but as soon as I reached the desktop the "Internet" icon
started to show a "starburst effect" (no kidding) and multiple copies of
the connection window began to appear--like really fast, filling up my
taskbar and continuing to spawn the app way faster than I could hope to
kill it.  In desperation I killed the X-server.  In 3 years of using
linux this hasn't happened before, and I hope it doesn't again.

Any ideas?

[Fwd: Re: [newbie] samba conf]

[eryl]

Re-reading this, I realize my answer was wrong (although the site
pointed to will help).  Try editing the Windows C:/Windows/hosts.sam
file.

Put in something like this:

127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain
192.168.0.2   YourLinuxbox.YourWorkgroup #use the address of your linbox
192.168.0.1   localhost  #the address of your windows box


Andri Genio wrote:
> 
> yes in windows 98 i saw the samba server but
> can't access to that
> 
> in windows 2000 i can access it
> 
Its definitely either a permissions problem--or you don't have a public
share set up on your Linux box.

Go to the Diagnosing Your Samba Server site and follow the steps and you
will learn all you need to know about samba networking.  It's here:  

http://www.rtr.com/winpak/Documentation/sambadiag.htm

[newbie] Font Ugliness

[eryl]

Can anyone tell me why, even with XF86 ver 4.x, I STILL have to edit my
XF86.config file and invert the 75dpi and 100dpi entries???  Why doesn't
X use the 100 dpi fonts by default?  What is the purpose of the default
at 75dpi  I'll bet this is one of the biggest pains for the newbies
and the ugliness of the default fonts is a real turn-off for them.  So,
why do the distros continue to do it this way?

I'm asking because I really want to know.

[newbie] Aureal Drivers

[eryl]

OOPS!  I sent ya-all a dead link.  The updated site is here:

http://www.geocities.com/bofh_666/aureal.html


>From personal experience, these drivers WORK!

Re: [newbie] Aureal Vortex

[eryl]

"Jim V." wrote:
> 
> Does anybody have any idea where I could find drivers for the Aureal
> Vortex Soundcard (Turtle Beach, Montego, etc)??
> 
> This is for Mandrake 7.1.
> 
> --
> _
> Jim Van Cleaf
> Motley + Associates, P.C.

Sourceforge has them, as does the following site:

http://www.geocities.com-bofh_666-aureal.html

Follow the instructions to install and you should have no problems.  I
have this card on one of my boxes and it works well.

Re: [newbie] V7.2 questions!

[eryl]

On Friday 01 December 2000 11:15, you wrote:
> A friend of mine installed the download version of 7.2 on his Pentium
> machine with 64 megs of RAM and a i810 video setup. (its a 667mhz machine).
> Anyways, he has an external modem and no matter what we do, it does not
> show up under hardware configuration, even though its working fine. Also, I
> thought hardware acceleration was automatic with certain card/chipsets
> under 7.2. (including the i810). However, any games we play are dead
> slow... ;-(
>
> Any ideas? Thanks!

That's normal, external modems never show.  I think that's because externals 
are attached to the serial port, and there's no detection of serial devices 
via the ports, at least not until they are initialized.  Its NOT something to 
lose sleep over.

Can't help with the vid acceleration--don't play games so haven't had the 
need to mess with it.

Re: [newbie] [Newbie] XFREE font problem

[eryl]

On Wednesday 29 November 2000 22:45, you wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am getting an error starting up Xfree. I have an S3 Trio 64V+ and am
> getting the following error:
> "An error has occurred:
> could not open default font 'fixed'
> try to change some parameters."
>
> Please help, this is for a demo for my IT Manager to convert from Red Hat
> to Mandrake.
>
> Regards
>
> Kim White
> Senior Technician
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> http://www.megchem.co.za 

Let me guess.  You've installed Mandrake 7.1, right?  And, if I'm correct , 
you've installed XFree86 version 4.0.  If that's the case the good news is 
that it's fixable.  I did this once, and didn't even realize I'd chosen 4.0 
instead of 3.x.x.

Check your /var/log/XFree4.0 (that might not be the exact name) for the 
XFree86 log file.  If you have XFree86 4.0 the config file will probably be 
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4, or maybe /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/S-XF86-4config--you might 
have to do a search.

Now, pay attention to the -4 part.  If you have the XF-4 file you'll need to 
copy the FontPath from your /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86config.eq (I think that's 
where it is) file to the XF86Config-4 file.

That is:

RgbPath "/usr/Xf11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
FontPath "/usr/Xf11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local"

and etc. for the  /misc"

  /100dpi/:unscaled"

   /75dpi/:unscaled"

/Type1/"
 
/100dpi/"

/75dpi/"

End Section


Keep in mind, I didn't come up with this, I read it on the list and I kept 
notes!  Good Luck.

Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Issue...

[eryl]

> > I just install LM 7.0 and it's look good, but one problem I have is
>
> internet
>
> > connection.
>
> > Yayan.
>
> You are still thinking in Windows terms.
> You Can Not use Netscape to connect directly to the internt.
> You need to connect to the internet first, and then launch Netscape.
>
>Charles

Charles is correct.  What you can do, is connect with kppp and set netscape 
to run upon connect -- look in your internet connection setup dialog for a 
blank to put in the executable  /usr/bin/netscape

Re: [newbie] 7.2 installs and "stuff"

[eryl]

On Friday 24 November 2000 23:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 4x lmfao and you wonder why it took so long takes about 22 mins on my
> machine for full install
>
> > ** Original Subject: RE: [newbie] 7.2 installs and "stuff"
> > ** Original Sender: eryl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > ** Original Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:59:16 -0600
> >
> > ** Original Message follows...
> >
> >
> > I've installed 7.2 on two different boxes, now (developmental), and both
> > installs took 3 HOURS!  

WOW!  Now I'm really wondering what went on with my boxes!  And whatever 
it was, they both did the same thing.  Anyone else have any insight into this?

Re: [newbie] Wrong graphical startup?

[eryl]

On Friday 24 November 2000 09:39, you wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> I've started Linux this morning with no problems, used it and shut it
> down... this afternoon i've turned on the computer and get a graphical
> screen asking me for my user name, password and window manager... but...
> the user icons weren't there, and the screen was a bit different.  I've
> keyed in the user name and pwd and pressed ok.
>
> I've got then a graphical screen with no icons and a terminal window
> opened.  The menues of the menu bar were different.
>
>
Is it possible you're starting on a different virtual desktop from the 
orginial one?  If you were on the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th and your "save settings" 
box was checked at logout I think there is a possibility that could have 
happened.

remember, I've been wrong before.

Eryl

[newbie] 7.2 installs and "stuff"

[eryl]

I've installed 7.2 on two different boxes, now (developmental), and both 
installs took 3 HOURS!  These boxes are probably minimum, P200mmx with 64M of 
ram and scsi 9 gig drives with 50x ATAPI cdroms.  Three hours seems out of 
line for an install on a clean, formatted HD--at least to me.  The longest 
7.1 took was 70 minutes, or so--I was using scsi 4X cd's with those, though.  
Would a scsi CD make that much difference?

So far, kde2 is definitely prettier than its predecessors, and a bit slower 
to load.  Apps are somewhat slower to load too (ala Win98)--I guess that's 
the payment for the eye candy.  Some stuff is not totally stable, imo.  So 
far my crashes have only happened when I CLOSED an app, never while running 
one or while loading one.  I get a consistent crash when I close the 
background manager if I choose a background from a source other than kde's 
default sourcefile, and I get the "app has crashed" window when I close any 
Gnome game that I'm running in kde.  Minor annoyances, but I don't think I'll 
do any more 7.2 installs until the bugfixes come in the next month or so.

CUPS was kind of a headache for me, but I've got it figured out now.  In 
fact, I think I like it, now I've got the StarOffice printing sorted out.  
Like anything new it requires some getting used to.

My one real complaint is the Konquerer network ran really slow copying from 
Windows machines to the 7.2 machines.  I don't have a clue why, it was fine 
going from Linux box to Linux box.  I installed the LinNeighborhood rpm and 
now both Linux and Windows files copy fast.  Anyone know why this happened to 
me?  Has it happened to anyone else, and if so, how did you fix it?

Eryl

Re: [newbie] StarOffice as user

[eryl]

On Friday 24 November 2000 07:38, you wrote:
> Question: what if you got the Staroffice5.2 rpm off of the
>  App CD from the  nasty walmart version of mandrake 7.2?
> I have installed mandrake 7.2 from downloaded ISOs, after
> finding out how "incomplete" the "complete" version was, and
> then, I wanted the Staroffice5.2 and knew it was on the App CD,
> so I did kpackage as "root" and found it on the walmart App CD
> and installed it. Will it be ok? or will I have to reinstall it
> with the /net command or such?
> Let me know cause I already installed it with kpackage.
> Susan
>
>
I don't think you'll have any problems whatsoever.  I'm using the SO 5.2 
version from the 7.1 CD number three with my 7.2 that I got from Cheapbytes 
and it's fine.  Course, I only installed last Sunday, so something could show 
up, but I kinda doubt that it will, now.