Re: [newbie] Netscape - Locking Up and Self-terminating - How toprevent?
On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 10:27:12AM -0500, Joseph S. Gardner wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 09:01:47PM -0500, Michael R. Batchelor wrote: > > > >Unfortunately, THAT PC isn't one of the clock sync clients. > > > > > > So just set up the scheduler on that machine to run "net time /set /yes" > > > every few minutes. I think the schedule for 95 comes on the Plus CD. > > > > Can't do that either. The System Agent sits in the system tray and will > > allow them to add/remove jobs. One of their first tricks was to schedule > > FreeCell to start 2 minutes from now. :) > > This is TOO FUNNY (hacking a Microsucks package in a Linux newsgroup), any way > I found a web site with a reference to a download / CD program for Win95. > > http://www.ocis.net/~dturner/magazine/arca312.htm > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/psdk/sysmgmt/syspol_8prn.htm > and the file (policy.exe) can be located here > http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q135/3/15.asp > > this ought to keep them guessing. 8-) Thanks for the pointers, I'll give them a browse. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Netscape - Locking Up and Self-terminating - How toprevent?
On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 12:21:40PM -0500, John Aldrich wrote: > On Wed, 03 Nov 1999, you wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 09:01:47PM -0500, Michael R. Batchelor wrote: > > > >Unfortunately, THAT PC isn't one of the clock sync clients. > > > > > > > > > So just set up the scheduler on that machine to run "net time /set /yes" > > > every few minutes. I think the schedule for 95 comes on the Plus CD. > > > > Can't do that either. The System Agent sits in the system tray and will > > allow them to add/remove jobs. One of their first tricks was to schedule > > FreeCell to start 2 minutes from now. :) > > > Hmm...have you folks considered using "dumb" terminals??? > ;-) Unfortunately, the application they need to run is Windows-only. Requests for bugfixes from the vendor are usually replied to with a pricetag, so I'm not counting the days for the applications to be available on an alternate platform. Ah well, this is why I get the big bucks, I guess. :) -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Netscape - Locking Up and Self-terminating - How toprevent?
On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 09:01:47PM -0500, Michael R. Batchelor wrote: > >Unfortunately, THAT PC isn't one of the clock sync clients. > > > So just set up the scheduler on that machine to run "net time /set /yes" > every few minutes. I think the schedule for 95 comes on the Plus CD. Can't do that either. The System Agent sits in the system tray and will allow them to add/remove jobs. One of their first tricks was to schedule FreeCell to start 2 minutes from now. :) -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] mirroring
On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 08:32:15AM -0500, Ronald J. Yacketta wrote: > Hello all!! > > do any of you know where I could get some mirror software for linux? > I would like to mirror my internal 4 scsi 9gb's to 4 external 9gb's. (maybe a > raid package where I could do raid 10 w/stripeing??) The raidtools package should contain what you need. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Netscape - Locking Up and Self-terminating - How toprevent?
On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 07:28:28AM -0500, Joseph S. Gardner wrote: > Steve Philp wrote: > > > Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > BTW, a neat trick I picked up from a budding "cracker" at work: (I chastised > > > > him severely for the action, but you gotta love his spirit!) > > > > > > > > We completely lock down the factory floor workstations running > > > > Win95 using a product called WinLock95. There's nothing runnable > > > > on that machine outside the data entry application they need and > > > > IE4 for their quality manuals. I felt pretty comfortable with > > > > the situation. > > > > > > > > Wrong! IE gives you the ability to browse the network by just > > > > punching in the domain (e.g. \\GRAND_RAPIDS). Surf to your > > > > hearts content. Read whatever you'd like. BAH!!! > > > > > > Guess i shouldn't tell you you can excecute things from the address bar > > > also. huh > > > > Well known. The other "fun trick" for these guys is playing with the > > clock. It seems there's no way to _display_ the clock without also > > allowing the ability to modify the system time on Win95/8. We caught it > > when we suddenly had around 600 units of inventory with an aging date of > > -31 days. > > > > Remind me again why I love this job? :) > > > > -- > > Steve Philp > > Network Administrator > > Advance Packaging Corporation > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Try leaving access to the system clock alone and inform them that their time cards > and payroll checks are tied into it. It's amazing how people leave things alone when > they believe any discrepancy in the date/time will effect their paychecks. (kind of > like installing a non-working smoke detectors in the bathrooms here at work to > discourage "smoking in the boys room", they're not real bright around these parts) Nope, we already had THAT fight. Approximately 80% of the timestamps utiltized by our ERP software takes the server-side notion of time. Time cards, of course, are one of those types. We've had knock-down, drag-out discussions about how "they punched in before the bell, but the computer said they were late." So, we installed clock sync software to all of the workstations. Now it's that they want to play with the clock (because it will, for the most part, flip back to the correct time within 10 minutes). Unfortunately, THAT PC isn't one of the clock sync clients. I find it amusing that we got a shareware solution for the clock syncs (this was before we discovered "net time /set /yes"). After a couple days, we started having problem with the clients erroring out when started. Wrote a nice email to the developer, included the full error message and asked if he had any suggetsions... never heard a thing from him. We use completely open source solutions for our web/email server. We needed some additional functions from qmailadmin to deal with a quirky situation in our operation. I wrote an inquiry to the qmailadmin author and had a patch in my mailbox in around 45 minutes. God, I love Open Source! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Trouble installing/configuring X/video card
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 02:31:32PM -0800, Tuan Nguyen wrote: > I have a monitor manual with all the spec such as horizontal and vertical range, but > Xconfigurator doesn't allow manual input the range. Unless, I am missing something. You're right, it doesn't. You'll need to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config after running through Xconfigurator to get it "close". Just modify the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines to read what your monitor manual shows. > --- John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: > > > I also have problem installing/configure X/video card. Total Newbie. > > > > > > Linux-Mandrake 6.1, AMD 333MHz, 64MB > > > Video Trident 3DImage 975 (generic) > > > Monitor CyberVision C-70 > > > > > > Was able to select video card but unable to set up monitor Cybervision. Try > > custom, > > > every possible combination there was there as far as horizontal selection and > > > vertical selection, still not working for X-window. I can't find any way to type > > in > > > the range per monitor manual. Please help. > > > > > Hmmdo you know the settings for the monitor You can > > always go back to Xconfigurator and do it that way, now > > that you know to use Trident 3DImage for your video card. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Procmail
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 01:44:35PM -0600, Vic wrote: > Hey all I was wondering if anyone had any procmail > experience. > > I want to write a simple procmail 'recipe' that would > bounce mail from certain addresses rather than just > move them to /dev/null You can't bounce mail from procmail. It's too late. Bouncing is done by the mail transfer agent. The best you could do is resend the message with your text attached, but that would probably require a bit more than a procmail recipe. > I would like to have a little text message ready on > my ISP's server to be sent to anyones address who > spams me. Is this procmail recipe installed on their server? > Also I would like this little message to be sent only to the > spammers address and not to a mailer daemon so > to prevent mail loops. Good luck! How many of these spam addresses do you really think are real? I know if _I_ were going to spam, I'd make sure that replies went straight to someone else's bit-bucket. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Who's been logging in?
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 09:54:17PM +, Ty C. Mixon wrote: > Is there a log, or is there a way to create one, that shows who has > logged into my machine, when and what they did? The 'last' command will show you a list of who's logged into the machine and the timespan. For "what they did", it depends upon how much you trust your users. If they're fairly naive, and you don't believe they're consciously TRYING to avoid being seen, then you can use ~/.bash_history to see what the user has done. If you don't trust 'em any further than you can throw 'em, you'll want to install the psacct package and look into the monitoring that it can provide. I don't run any Linux machines that allow interactive logins for anyone but the administrator, so I couldn't tell you how well the package works. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Resolv.conf
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 08:35:32PM -0200, Gustavo Viola wrote: > Been forced to send this msg under the other OS, since kppp is misbehaving. > > I had one of those misconfigurations of etc/resolv.conf -- although I am not > sure how that happened to begin with, since I haven't fooled with it > lately -- that have been mentiond in the list so often. As root, I wrote > the 2 DNS nameservers to resolv.conf. As user, I use kppp, log in fine, but > can't use any app since they can't find the server. Log out, go check > resolv.conf and it is entirely empty! > > Any suggestions? Because I can't really deal with Outlook Express much > longer. ;-) Thank you, Make sure that you don't set the option in KPPP to "use these DNS servers". If you do, KPPP will "append" it's information to your resolv.conf and just bring heartache and trouble. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Compiling C++ programs
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 05:28:58PM -0500, David Smith wrote: > > Hi. > I'm new to Linux and C++... (what a dangerous combination!), but I have > > not been able to figure out how to complie and link my rookie > programs... can someone please point me in the right direction. g++ -o ./ -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] RealplayerG2 - Why Does It Stop After A Few Seconds?
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 10:54:38AM -0800, Sevatio Octavio wrote: > I'm using Mandrake6.1 with the G2realplayer (also with licensed OSS driver). > > Here's the problem: > Whenever I use the G2player, it would only play for a few seconds and then it would >be silent. At the same time it goes silent, the > timer on G2player goes really slow and erratic. Not only does the G2player go >silent but so does all other audio applications like > the MP3 players. Even "soundoff" and then "soundon" does not remedy the situation. >The only way so far is to do a reboot. > > Has anyone had similar experiences or suggestions? You're going to have to ask Real Networks or 4Front about those problems. They don't provide source, so we can't really see what's causing the problem. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Netscape - Locking Up and Self-terminating - How to prevent?
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 03:38:05PM -0500, John Aldrich wrote: > On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: > > Sorry to butt in here butt, what are those 3 different Netscape > > files that you gotta download, common, and the other 2? > > > > Do they do it tat way so it is not one long download? > > > Don't know why they did it that way. I assume you're > correct in the assumption that they did it that way to > reduce the download time and to make it more "modular." You > download two of the three for a complete install > download the "common" RPM and either the "communicator" or > the "navigator" depending on which you want. They did it that way so I could build nice kiosk's with a web browser interface without having to worry about little fingers sending mail or glancing at the porn in alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.* Seriously, for a stand-alone information station, it's an ideal solution. Start X without a window manager, put "exec netscape -geometry 1024x768" into ~/.Xclients, and away you go! Now if I could just figure out a way to disallow the use of "file://" URLs, I'd be all set! BTW, a neat trick I picked up from a budding "cracker" at work: (I chastised him severely for the action, but you gotta love his spirit!) We completely lock down the factory floor workstations running Win95 using a product called WinLock95. There's nothing runnable on that machine outside the data entry application they need and IE4 for their quality manuals. I felt pretty comfortable with the situation. Wrong! IE gives you the ability to browse the network by just punching in the domain (e.g. \\GRAND_RAPIDS). Surf to your hearts content. Read whatever you'd like. BAH!!! We've since removed IE. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] SQL systems comparison?
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 02:40:03PM -0500, Damien Mc Kenna wrote: > For doing a pretty large databased web site for a college department > (with all the cool stuff in PHP), which would people recommend I use: > PostreSQL or MySQL? I've noticed that a lot of the PHP packages I'm > looking at seem to favor MySQL, but PostgreSQL is getting more support > these days. Should I just read through their respective documentations > and figure it out for myself, or does anyone have a recommendation, or > are there any good comparisons of them on the net? I'm rather partial to MySQL, but only because it seemed easier to deal with to me. PostgreSQL seems to do alot of things _outside_ the database, rather than dealing with them inside normal tables. Some of the decision will depend on what sorts of things you need to do with the database. I know that MySQL doesn't handle straight transactions, nor can it do table or row locking. I don't recall whether PostgreSQL handles those normally. I do know there was a rather lengthy discussion about this very topic on Slashdot awhile ago. You might try there. http://slashdot.org -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Re: your mail
On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 09:43:22PM -0800, Chip Wiegand wrote: > I am interested in this also. I have apache installed and it does run. I can > connect to my pages from any pc in my home network. The next part is this - > How do we (I) get to our pages from the outside world? Don't we need a > connection to the internet, other than through an isp? When a friend of mine > tried to ping my ip address it wouldn't work, my isp has a firewall and I have > a firewall. Well, both of you are going to need to allow incoming connections on port 80 on your firewalls. Next, you'll want to contact your ISP about getting a static IP and a domain name else you'll be stuck using IP numbers to contact your system. > On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 03:35:22PM -0800, Dreja Julag wrote: > > > Hello all! I am wondering if I can create a web server of my own with my linux > > > box for my friends and neighbors. I think it sounds like a cool experiment, > > > but I don't know where to start. Thanks for the help. I know, I could > > > probably look to a howto, but they are not the friendliest little creatures in > > > the world. > > > > Install the apache package. > > > > Start the server with: > > > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd start > > > > Put the documents you wish to publish into /home/httpd/html. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Segmentation Faults?
On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 07:20:47PM -0500, Clyde J. Kell wrote: > Help, > Whenever I try to run a particular program I receive an: > Segmentation Fault core dumped What program? > Then when I try to do anything else I receive: > unable to load interpreter > init: Id "3" > respawning too fast disabled for 5 minutes What did you edit in /etc/inittab? > If I wait nothing happens. If I switch to another console Root or whatever > I receive the same error. I have to RESET the machine to reboot. > > I am running Mandrake 6.0 on an AMD K6-2 400mhz with 64 megs ram. > I recently upgraded to this mother board from an AMD 586/133mhz machine > running Red Hat 5.2 Everything was wonderful and I really loved it. > > However, the motherboard was old and had a crack so it DIED and well > now the nightmare has begun. I ended up re-installing Mandrake 6.0. > > Any suggestions as to why I am receiving the above errors. Tough to tell with the limited information you provided. Post more info and we'll probably be able to help. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Re: your mail
On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 03:35:22PM -0800, Dreja Julag wrote: > Hello all! I am wondering if I can create a web server of my own with my linux > box for my friends and neighbors. I think it sounds like a cool experiment, > but I don't know where to start. Thanks for the help. I know, I could > probably look to a howto, but they are not the friendliest little creatures in > the world. Install the apache package. Start the server with: /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd start Put the documents you wish to publish into /home/httpd/html. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Networking - Home Lan -- HELP
On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 05:26:54PM -0500, Alex V Flinsch wrote: > On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: > > > > > On a linux terminal, start a 'ping 192.168.1.2'. Then switch terminals > > and run > > > > did taht and it's pinging away happily > > > tcpdump -i eth0 | tee tcpdump-output > > > [root@localhost alex]# tcpdump -i eth0 | tee tcpdump-output > tcpdump: listening on eth0 > > > > that is all that happens, no output in tcpdump-output file (empty) > but I get this when tcpdump is stopped by a ctl-c > 0 packets received by filter > 0 packets dropped by kernel Okay, looks like the driver is bad. There was another message on the list saying that there is a known problem with the shipped driver and the SOHOware card. Check the archives at the Mandrake website for resolution. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Networking - Home Lan -- HELP
On Sat, Oct 30, 1999 at 10:56:02PM -0400, Alex V Flinsch wrote: > I just got a home lan set up (sort of anyway) > Everything works fine when all boxes are running under win98. I just want to say upfront that you've done an excellent job of including the information that we'll need to start fixing this problem! It's not often that we get this much (and useful) output. > Machine 1 - windows1 ip address of 192.168.1.1 > Machine 2 - linux1 ip address of 192.168.1.1 Is this a mistype? Check 'ifconfig eth0' on Linux and 'winipcfg' on Windows to see what each thinks it's IP is. > /etc/hosts > 192.168.1.2 localhost.localdomain linux1 > 192.168.1.1 windows1 upstairs > 192.168.1.2 linux1 basement That first line should read: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost else you'll find that some things break. > Found Macronix 98715 PMAC at I/O 0xe400. > tulip.c:v0.89H 5/23/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > eth0: Macronix 98715 PMAC at 0xe400, 00 80 c6 f8 94 97, IRQ 11. Could you post the output of 'ifconfig eth0' and 'route -n'? Thanks! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] upgrading
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 05:25:01PM -0600, Patrick Neumann wrote: > > A couple of quick questions > > 1. I am using Mandrake 6.0 and would like to us VMware ver 1.1 which > requires xfree86 3.3.4 and ver 6 of mandrake only uses 3.3.1 What is > the simplest way of getting this done. Grab the updated packages that you require from any of the Cooker mirrors. You can find a list of those sites on the Mandrake web pages. I would imagine that VMWare requires 3.3.4 or later, so don't worry if the only thing you can find is 3.3.5. > 2. I have a soundblasrter live. I can get the cd player to work as a > cd player, but am unable to get sound for other applications. I used > the most recent version of the driver from the devloper site from > creative labs. One other wierd thing is some times after the speakers > are on for a while the will start a low tone beep that will only go away > by rebooting the entire system. No idea there... Does Creative offer support for their drivers? Maybe a newsgroup? > 3. Has anyone figured away aroung the Vmware problem of not working > with the AMD K3 400 and windows 95 as a vertuila machine. Windows 95 > requires a patch to allow it to work with the K6 3 series processors, > but VM ware will not load windows with this patach. I would really hate > to have to upgrade to windows 98. After all the whole Idea of linux is > to get away from windows. Then why run VMWare?! :) Seriously, there was a technical support FAQ on the VMWare website that covered this issue. Try a search through there to see if anything pops up. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Fortify install
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 06:45:09PM -0500, Jeanette Russo wrote: > John Aldrich wrote: > > > > On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, you wrote: > > > > After installation and testing at www.fortify.net (README file online), > > > > you should consider repeating the procedure to fortify > > > > netscape-navigator as well. > > > > > > > Where is Netscape Navigator I didn't see that only Netscape-Communicator > > > when I did Fortify? > > > > > Same location, just that it's netscape-navigator, instead of > > netscape-communicator. :-) > > > Well its not in here so I guess its not installed. Why whould you have > both Navigator and Communicator seems redundant? netscape-communicator includes the mail/news and page editor. netscape-navigator is browser-only. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] -- MARK --
On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 06:10:53AM +0400, Steve Sykes wrote: > Every 20 minutes, a message with the time,date,hostname and -- MARK -- shows > up on the screen when I tail the messages file. What is this? It's just a marker so you can see that the system logs are still running. It might be useful to track whether changes have been made to the logs, but it's probably more useful if you're having crash problems with either the daemon itself or your system. By checking the timestamp on the last --MARK--, you can see when it died. To get rid of it, add "-m0" to the end of the statement "daemon syslogd" on line 21 of /etc/rc.d/init.d/syslog. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] How do I bring eth0 down?
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 06:10:24PM -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, you wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 04:50:25AM +, Ty Mixon wrote: > > > On my box the commands are also shortened to ifup and ifdown. > > > > They're different commands. Do a 'which ifup' and 'which ifconfig' to see. > > > Yeah...but you can probably accomplish the same thing with both, I'd > guess. Just two ways of reaching the same point. :-) The 'ifup' command runs through the applicable scripts in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts setting up routes and such. It'll only work once you setup the interfaces in netcfg (don't know if linuxconf also dumps it's setup in there, I've never used the thing). -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Plugger
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 09:14:09PM +, Alan_N wrote: > John Aldrich wrote: > > > > Hey, all...just a reminder that the Mandrake RPM of Netscape is the > > Libc5 version, and if you go to get "plugger" or any other C-version > > specific plugin, you need to get the libc5 version, not the GLIBC2 > > version. :-) Mandrake itself may use glibc2, but the Mandrake RPM of > > Netscape is using the older library, which is incompatible with > > plugins based on the newer version of the c-language library. :-) I > > found that out the hard way this morning trying to install Plugger. > > :-) > > John > > > Hmmm. I'm a bit confused. I thought RH 6.0 and above including Mandrake > was glibc2.. Can you explain this? They are. The ONLY application in any of these that is libc 5 is Netscape. > I've tried plugger a few times and it installed, but everytime a web > "event" called something to utilize plugger CRASH!... Maybe this is indeed > my answer, since I dloaded glibc2. > > This is damn confusing. How do you tell? How do you know? You can tell what libraries an application is linked against using the command: ldd Because of all the "behind the curtain" work to get Netscape even resembling stable, you'll find that /usr/bin/netscape and /usr/bin/netscape-communicator aren't even the real executables. The real one hides in /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator. Here's the output of "ldd /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator" from the Netscape shipped with 6.1: /lib/libNoVersion.so.1 => /lib/libNoVersion.so.1 (0x4000) libBrokenLocale.so.1 => /lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 (0x40009000) libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4000b000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x4005b000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x40064000) libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x4007b000) libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x4008e000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x4009d000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400aa000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40159000) libstdc++.so.2.8 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 (0x4015c000) libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4019d000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x401bb000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x8000) You'll notice that this one is linked against glibc instead of libc 5. Guess it got magically "stable" in the move to 6.1? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie]
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 06:37:03AM -0600, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > And a replacement package for the kernel problem is coming soon, right > > MandrakeSoft?? :) > > Haven't forgotten anyone i swear, I think i've just about got this stable > so as i can actualy compile things with 'make -j' and know it's not gonna > flake out and loose dma or irq forceing me to reboot. > > BP6 users, upgrade your bios to 1.20 (might be in 1.10 didn't check) to > beable to turn off dma on the hpt366. (note my io's changed after this > you'll wanna recheck /proc/pci vs. dmesg) I wondered about that... I saw the BIOS update, but didn't want to risk throwing another variable into the mix. I'll give it a shot. I hope it fixes the problem of the drive jumping between C: and D: on each boot. > and for the lilo stuff > in bios set boot to EXT, set the ext method to not scsi (forgot what it > says exactly) > Before rebooting change to tty2, edit /mnt/etc/lilo.conf > disk=/dev/hde > bios=0x80 > then 'lilo -r /mnt' Excellent, I'll give that a try! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] StarOffice -- original $39.95 version?
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 10:35:24AM +, Benjamin Sher wrote: > Dear Sam: > > Thank you so much for the info. Just ordered Que's Special Editon Using > StarOffice by Michael Koch (for Linux only) the 15,50+ pages version > from Macmillan (http://www.mcp.com). Just as a "head's up" to people, MacMillan is also shipping some of their books as .pdf files in their 6.5 Deluxe edition. Here's what they include: Red Hat 6 Unleashed Teach Yourself GIMP in 24 Hours Teach Yourself KDE in 24 Hours Teach Yourself Linux in 24 Hours Special Edition Using Linux Special Edition Using StarOffice Special Edition Using WordPerfect 8 There's also a Acrobat Reader 4.0 on that CD. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Sound
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 03:53:22PM +0800, Mr-X- wrote: > well why do they charge you $20 ? for there code... Because they're the ones with the driver that you want. It's your choice: write the code yourself, buy the driver from OSS, or go without sound. > why should they get our money while most everything for linux is free. As you've discovered, there isn't a freely available driver for your soundcard. Soundcards that have freely available drivers aren't that expensive, I think I paid $20 for my Ensoniq card. 'bout the same I would have paid for the OSS driver for my old sound card if OSS had support for it at the time. Do you also feel like you should be handed Xess for free? Motif? You want the cool toys, you ante up the bucks. > and if you wanna give somebody a lecture try efnet #linuxcracks cause there the > ones who made the dam keygen.. And you're the one offering it up for the world on this mailing list. Do you suppose I could tell the cops that they shouldn't arrest me for selling crack, because someone else sold it to me?! > so blow me. Real intelligent. Just as a warning, I'm forwarding this thread to OSS. If we can't shame you into being honest, maybe they can convince you. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Sound
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 11:38:20AM +0800, Mr-X- wrote: > i have a key generator already from linuxcracks Are you really broke enough that you're unwilling to pay $20 for the drivers? This _REALLY_ pisses me off. Hannu and the rest of the guys at Open Sound/4Front have worked their asses off bringing drivers to the Linux community. They've done the crap work of agreeing to NDA's from sound card manufacturers so that people who've made unfortunate choices in hardware purchases can USE that hardware under Linux. Sure, it's only $20. And who's going to miss $20, right? And they're not really LOSING any money, because you wouldn't have bought OSS if the crack hadn't been available, right? Those are typically the arguments of the little creeps that depend upon cracks and "warez". Unfortunately, they're just too damn convenient. Would you like knowing that YOUR hard work was being stolen? Would you like reading a mailing list and seeing someone brag about using your software without paying? By stealing this software, you're going a long way toward convincing software manufacturers that it's just not worth porting to the Linux platform. "Look at OSS," they say, "they can't even sell that many OSS licenses! There's surely no market for our XYZ!" The price for OSS just isn't that high, pay for the drivers. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] update problelms?
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 08:35:52PM -0700, Don Whitman wrote: > I just tried to update for the first time. I am running mandrake 6.0. I > selected all updates which was quite a lot. It took about one and a half hours > to download. Then when it was installing I got an error (do not remember exact > message) and was asked to either force or quit so I forced. I then got about 7 > errors stating that I had conflicting files and it I believe asked me to > continue. After that everything was gone. Nothing got installed. Where did I > go wrong. Is it there somewhere that I can try to reinstall? Is there an > easier way to do this?Thanks Don Luckily, all of the files that you downloaded are still available in /tmp. They'll be the ones that end with .rpm. Login as root, and copy those files to your home directory: cp /tmp/*.rpm /root/. Then install them: cd ~ rpm -Uvh *.rpm If you still get errors, post 'em. We're glad to help! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Fortify install
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 11:14:35PM -0400, Hugh wrote: > Today I tried installing Fortify into netscape. But I ran into a problem > When I try to UN zip the file I get an alarm that says it doesn't know -xf- > I'm using this command > gzip -dc Fortify-1.4.5-unix-x86.tar.gz | tar -xf- > what am I doing wrong? I'm really bad with tar files as you can see Put a space between the -xf and the - so it looks like this: gzip -dc Fortify-1.4.5-unix-x86.tar.gz | tar -xf - the '-' at the end means "use the stuff fed to you as the file to be untarred". -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] My printer...
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 10:54:30PM -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, you wrote: > > After several installations and reading several documents, I have found that my > > Epson Stylus Color 740 printer will not work under Linux at all times (my > > experience and quote from a howto document). I have been able to print a test > > page once or twice but that has been it. I am taking a computer class that is > > using Linux, so I need the printer for printing out my assignments. I know > > that I can go into Win98 to print them out, but it's inconvenient and it would > > be nice to be able to use Linux without having to rely on Win98 for anything. > > > According to the Linux Printer Compatibility list, the Epson 740 is > listed as "mostly working" which they say means the colors may be off > a bit, and such, but it should print. Have you run the printer setup > util in X? If not you should (sorry, can't recall right off what the > command is.) That should help get it working as best it's going to. printtool -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie]
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 07:38:30PM -0700, Seth Gibson wrote: > On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, you wrote: > > My advice is to get the mandrake release too. I'm going through installing > > most of the major releases that you can download or get get from LinuxMall for > > $2.00 in order to write a review on them from a newbie's perspective. Here's > > what I've discovered so far- > > > > Are there any major MAJOR bugs in 6.1 that would turn some less computer > literate people off? Im going to be teaching a computer class pretty soon > here and i'd like to give each of the participants a copy of Linux to take > home and try, but i dont want to hand out something thats going to leave a > sour impression because of what might be to you or i a really simple bug.. Of the recent distributions (although I haven't tried the latest Caldera or Red Hat tries), Mandrake 6.1 is probably one of the better. As long as they don't attempt to compile the kernel, they'll probably be okay. And a replacement package for the kernel problem is coming soon, right MandrakeSoft?? :) -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FIXED !!! [newbie] Postfix mail will not deliver locally, will not error back
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 10:27:35PM -0400, R. 'Trebor' Groves wrote: > > Amen somebody Congrats! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Re: newbie Core Dump
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 10:10:46PM -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, you wrote: > > What is a core dump??? and why do you get them??? > > > Core dump is a memory dump of a crashed program. Instead of a "blue > screen of death" like you get with Microsoft, you get a "core dump" Now come on now... A core dump is like a Dr. Watson trace. It just saves the memory image to disk so you can beat someone for it later. Now, an OOPS... THAT's like a Blue Screen of Death. > when a program fails. Also, the nice thing about Linux is that the > PROGRAM fails, not the Operating System. :-) Indeed! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie]
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 07:40:54PM -0600, Sam wrote: > My advice is to get the mandrake release too. I'm going through installing > most of the major releases that you can download or get get from LinuxMall for > $2.00 in order to write a review on them from a newbie's perspective. Here's > what I've discovered so far- > > Caldera and Red Hat may have prettier installers, but they have BUGS, a couple > of them are BIG bugs, and don't include anywhere near the applications They must be humongous to beat the out-of-the-box doozies in Mdk 6.1. I seem to recall Red Hat is still having problems with their installer as well. > Mandrake does. The Suse interface takes going through a couple of times to > really understand it and get what you want. It has more applications than Red YaST does take a little getting used to, but you've really got to admire the thing. It would be great if it weren't proprietary, because I really prefer working in text mode to do administrative chores. > Hat ot Caldera but less than Mandrake. Suse leaves out the configuration of I think you must have something confused if you think SuSE ships with less apps than RH or Mdk. There are things in SuSE that I've never even SEEN shipped with any of the other distributions -- look up Mirror Magic, it's an addicting game! > some important features for a desktop machine during the install that are part > of Mandrakes installation routine. Mandrake has been the ONLY distribution Caldera does a little better than Mandrake at setting up the user environment, but I think that might be because I can SKIP the floppy/cdrom/printer icons in Caldera. I don't like 'em, never use 'em. > that allowed me to pick my sound card from a list when it identified my PCI128 > incorrectly. > > I'm getting ready to give TuboLinux a spin. Once that's done I get to start on > the commercial packages. (Oh my achin' head) I'd be interested in hearing more about TurboLinux. I've read a bit about it and I'm rather intrigued. It might just be the next distro on this machine. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] re - compiling kernal to support ESS-Solo - 1 soundchip
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 02:34:09PM +1300, Warren Doney wrote: > Has anyone got tips/links for doing this? cd /usr/src/linux make menuconfig and when you get to the Sound menu, say 'Y' to ESS-Solo1. It's marked as experimental, so I don't know how well it works. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] user security
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 06:25:32PM -0700, Richard Salts wrote: > What user privileges do I, as root, enact to be able to enable an ordinary > user to be able to dial up the Internet and use browser, e-mail, chat, etc? The only thing you have to do is allow them to dialup. Everything else is automatically available. Depending on what you're using to connect to the Internet, it's easy to allow normal users to make the connection: Kppp: just set up kppp for that user. They start the connection just like root. netcfg: there's a checkbox to "allow normal users to (de)activate the connection, put a checkmark in it and save all the way back out. Users use /sbin/ifup ppp0 # to connect /sbin/ifdown ppp0 # to disconnect or usernet which is just a one button window that you click to connect and click to disconnect. Does anyone else get the idea that we've got too damn many ways to accomplish one thing? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Where is Kernel?
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 07:45:35PM -0400, art-nj wrote: > I am trying to compile ftape and keep getting errors. I think it is > because I have not properly specified the location of the kernel. I > am running mandrake 6.0. Which directory would contain the Kernel? /usr/src/linux > Your help is appreciated. Thank you!! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Re: newbie Core Dump
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 12:27:51PM -0400, Jaguar wrote: > What is a core dump??? and why do you get them??? A core dump is a dump of the system memory to allow debugging of a broken application. Why do you get them? Programming errors. Yours, theirs, doesn't really matter unless you don't have the source to fix it! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] home directory
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 12:32:34AM -0700, Eric L. Damron wrote: > I want to move the home directory away from my system disk onto a larger > disk. What files to I need to edit to make everything point to the right > things? (We'll assume /dev/hdb2 is the new partition) First, create the new partition and format it. fdisk /dev/hdb n 2 w mke2fs /dev/hdb2 Second, mount the partition somewhere. mkdir /mnt/new-home mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/new-home Third, copy the existing /home directories to the new drive. cp -a /home/* /mnt/new-home/. Fourth, unmount the new partition. umount /mnt/new-home Fourth, edit /etc/fstab to reflect the new mount point. /dev/hdb2/homeext2defaults1 1 Fifth, test the new partition to ensure the copy worked well. mount /home If everything looks okay, we're all set (almost). If things are wrong, just unmount the filesystem, you've still got all of your old /home stuff available to make another pass at the copying. Sixth, clean up and go! umount /home rm -rf /home # this step may seem odd, but it's really true. # When you mount the new /home partition, anything that # was on the old /home will still be using disk space, # but you won't be able to get to it. # You want to remove it so you get the disk space back. mount /home Good luck! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Harddrive problem
On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 07:50:03PM -0700, Yifan Yu wrote: > Is there a way to find out what address I should use? Also, when I tried > the boot option, it says ide2 is an invalid option. Do you already have Linux installed on this machine? You can find information about the controller in /proc/pci. If not, you _might_ be able to find the info in the Windows device manager under the resources tab. Mine also said that "ide2..." was an invalid option, but continued with the install (and did see the drive) despite the warning. > And here a little more information on the controller: > > Manufacturer: Promise Technology, Inc. > Model number: Ultra66 > Controller type: Bus master Ultra ATA/66 drive controller > Board controller type: PCI > > - Yifan > > On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Steve Philp wrote: > > > Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Yifan Yu wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, when I tried to install Mandrake 6.1, it cannot detect any harddrive. > > > > > > > > I have a 27.3 GB Ultra ATA with ATA 66 controller card. > > > > Is this problem due to this type of HD being to new or something and is > > > > not supported yet? > > > > > > > > Any help would be appreciated, thanks. > > > > > > You need to tell the kernel the is a 3rd and 4th ide controller, because > > > the ide patches were not applyed they were causeing problems with cdrom > > > drives. > > > > > > at the boot prompt enter > > > linux ide2=0xd800 > > > or > > > linux ide2=0xa800 > > > > > > (sorry i thought these were generaly the same, but i've done some checking > > > looking for what i thought was the address for a chip other than the > > > HPT366, but it was the same card with several different addresses :/ ) > > > > Be careful on those addresses! Those don't match what I've got here... > > > > I've got ide2=0xd800,0xdc02,11 > > > > -- > > Steve Philp > > Network Administrator > > Advance Packaging Corporation > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] tgz files
On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 06:16:51PM -0700, Eric L. Damron wrote: > Are tgz files the same as tar.gz files? If not how do I decompress them? They're exactly the same, just named to be compatible with yucky "legacy" operating systems. :) -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie]
On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 08:42:17PM -0400, David P. Greenberg wrote: > On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, ibi wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm so new I haven't even loaded Linux; I've never seen a Linux screen > > and I don't know one command. When you pick yourself up off the floor I > > have one question. I've decided on Mandrake based on the strength of > > support. Where do I go to begin to learn the raw basics? My goal is to > > have a pure Linux box. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Pj > > --Well, you've come to the right place. This list is chock full of people > who can help you. One thing I'd suggest is, at least at first, go for a > dual boot setup. Don't trash you Win95 untill you're really strong in > Linux. It's not the easiest learning curve around. But, once you get a > handle on it, I'm sure you'll love it. I know I do. The biggest reason to keep Win95 around during the first few weeks is because there are BOUND to be problems. And you're going to need a working Internet connection until you get the Linux side talking to the 'net. I know most of my first few weeks with Linux were in Windows... hanging out on an IRC channel trying to get some help! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Symbolic links between Netscape inbox files in Linux and DOS
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 12:17:59AM +0100, Colin Murphy wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 18, 1999 at 10:49:03PM +0100, colin.murphy wrote: > > > It would be kinda neat if I could set up a symbolic links for Netscape > > > in Linux to use the equivalent DOS files for things like the message > > > files. This would keep both Netscape's in sync. > > > > Give it a try and let us know how it works! (Seriously, I don't think I've > > ever seen any messages from anyone who's tried it) > > Well, it does seem to work. I've created the same directory structure in > Linux Netscape(LNS) as I had in Windows Netscape (WNS) so that I had the right > number of Subfolders in each. Taking the 'Unsent Messages' folder as an > > [SNIP] > > I look forward to now hearing all the reasons why I shouldn't have made these > symlinks ;-) Congrats! That is pretty damned cool! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] [sphilp: BUG: 6.1 -- chkfontpath]
Here's the second bug report I mailed last night. I haven't seen it hit the mailing lists, so I'm forwarding it back in. My apologies if it made it the first time and I missed it. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another one... Trying to remove fonts from the xfs fontserver using the chkfontpath utility results in a segmentation fault: Script started on Wed Oct 20 22:05:34 1999 [root@tippy fonts]# chkfontpath --list Current directories in font path: 1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled 2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled 3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled 4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc 5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo 7: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ttfonts 8: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 9: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi [root@tippy fonts]# chkfontpath --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/StarOffice [root@tippy fonts]# chkfontpath --list Current directories in font path: 1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled 2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled 3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled 4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc 5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo 7: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ttfonts 8: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 9: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi 10: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/StarOffice [root@tippy fonts]# chkfontpath --remove /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/StarOffice Segmentation fault (core dumped) [root@tippy fonts]# Script done on Wed Oct 20 22:06:08 1999 -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] [sphilp: BUG: 6.1 -- portmap]
I'm not sure this posted through to the list last night. My apologies if they did. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Continuing the bug parade... I was cleaning up my system tonight, removing unnecessary packages. I removed the portmap package, but noticed that it showed up again in the output of 'rpm -qa'. Here's a transcript of the activity: Script started on Wed Oct 20 21:37:50 1999 [root@tippy /root]# rpm -qa | grep portmap portmap-4.0-6mdk [root@tippy /root]# rpm -e portmap error reading information on service portmap: No such file or directory execution of script failed error reading information on service portmap: No such file or directory execution of script failed [root@tippy /root]# rpm -qa | grep portmap portmap-4.0-6mdk [root@tippy /root]# rpm -Uvh /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/portmap-4.0-6mdk.i586.rpm [A[root@tippy /root]# rpm -Uvh /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/portmap-4.0-6mdk.i586.rpm package portmap-4.0-6mdk is already installed [root@tippy /root]# exit Script done on Wed Oct 20 21:38:19 1999 Why doesn't the portmap package remove itself from the installed packages database? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] BUG: 6.1
On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 05:41:59AM -0600, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 11:25:20PM -0600, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > > > On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > > > [snip steve] > > > > > hda: QUANTUM BIGFOOT_CY6480A, 6204MB w/67kB Cache, CHS=13446/15/63, DMA > > > > > hdd: ATAPI 20X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA > > > > > > > > > > So, the kernel believes that the drives are still DMA-capable at boottime > > > > > despite the BIOS switch. > > > > > > Sorry steve for refrence.. my cdrom doesn't go into DMA mode > > > ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio > > > ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio > > > hda: Maxtor 92048U8, ATA DISK drive > > > hdc: CD-R CDU928E, ATAPI CDROM drive > > > > > > hdparm of hda is same, i did just notice your cd is on hdd. why for? > > > > Because I gain almost 3M/sec transfer speed by not having slow devices on > > the hard drive cable. > > no no, not why is it on the secondary, why is it slaved is what i wondered > about. also are your ide[01] lines identical to mine? i think i sniped > that maybe.. Here's the dmesg output for ide[01]: ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA The CDROM is on secondary slave because I have a voodoo issue with putting it as master. My ATAPI ZIP drive is secondary master. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] wyse 60 emulation ona linux client
On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 03:49:12PM +0800, PCLow wrote: > my company currently uses a ms windows emulation > application (Anzio) to emulate wyse 60 to access the > PICK application on a redhat server supplied by the > vendor. > > I'm trying to use a linux client to access PICK instead, > but having problem in setting the wyse emulation. > > Can someone help me? If i'm successful, my boss > will deploy linux instead of MS windows since the > PICK is all that my dept does anyway. Should be as simple as: export TERM=wy60 You can: grep wyse /etc/termcap to find out all of the various sizes/etc that can be used for the export TERM command. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] BUG: 6.1
On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 11:25:20PM -0600, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > [snip steve] > > > hda: QUANTUM BIGFOOT_CY6480A, 6204MB w/67kB Cache, CHS=13446/15/63, DMA > > > hdd: ATAPI 20X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA > > > > > > So, the kernel believes that the drives are still DMA-capable at boottime > > > despite the BIOS switch. > > Sorry steve for refrence.. my cdrom doesn't go into DMA mode > ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio > ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio > hda: Maxtor 92048U8, ATA DISK drive > hdc: CD-R CDU928E, ATAPI CDROM drive > > hdparm of hda is same, i did just notice your cd is on hdd. why for? Because I gain almost 3M/sec transfer speed by not having slow devices on the hard drive cable. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] BUG: 6.1
On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 10:27:23PM -0600, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm not sure howlong till the next ide patch is out for 2.2.13 hopefully > it'll fix this. also which error are you getting again 'hdX: lost > interupt' or the DMA timeout Check your archived mail, I included the exact error messages from the logs in my original message. > > > > > > 2) Inability to compile a kernel. Attempting a 'make menuconfig' yields: > > > > > > So in order to compile the kernel, what package do I need? Why wasn't that > > package included in the distribution? Did you expect people NOT to compile > > their own kernels? > > It's not like this is all that new of a problem (pgcc produceing flaky > code). So if it's broken, why ship it? If it's got KNOWN ISSUES, why put your users at risk? > use egcs if you want exactly like was distributed And I'd find egcs WHERE on the CD? Is this sinking in yet? > use pgcc if you don't care if the parallel ports work (could be other > problems also i quit testing at that point) > > use gcc if your useing kernel-source from cooker, and want the fastest > posible code I've got the retail Mandrake, as I previously stated. > > > Seems it will happen only on a clean install > > > also doesn't seem the gcc check was ever applyed to the cooker .spec > > > > Considering that Mandrake has been pretty vocal about "install don't > > upgrade", one would expect that someone at Mandrake had actually tried USING > > the resulting system. > > I was useing it 18 hours a day for several weeks, i still (personaly) > stand by "just cause it works here, doesn't mean it will there" Apparently you never tried to compile a kernel with the installed system! Or a myriad of other things, because I'm tripping over problems every day. > > It's time for Mandrake to realize that those of us who buy our distributions > > expect a bit more than we would if it were handed to us free. We expect > > that our money will ensure that things are tested, packaged, and ready to use. > > If that is an unreasonable thing for me to expect from Mandrake, I'll gladly > > take my money elsewhere. > > I'd like to point out that up untill not all that long ago there were but > a handfull of us. (some volunteers even) So extend the Beta testing periods on this stuff. If I recall correctly, 6.1 was an announced ONE WEEK beta period. Sure, it went to three weeks, but there are STILL bugs in this thing. Big ones. Hairy, nasty, venomous ones. Bugs that SHOULD NOT be happening. If it's broke, slip on the ship date and fix them. And volunteers or not, have some pride in your work. Do you and the other Mandrakers like coming to work every morning knowing that someone else will be filing bug reports against all your hard work? I know it would bum me out... > Steve, > If you expected no bumps when we went from Redhat(c)+, to Redhat(c) > compatible, I really don't know what to tell you. It is going to be bumpy, > but no one will get bruised, promise.. I've been here since 5.3, using every release in between. 6.1 is the absolute most broken distribution I've ever laid hands on. You've got a smart group of people there, but you're spending time developing new things while your distribution rots. These bug reports should serve as a warning to all the people there that they will be held accountable for it. How about taking a break from all of the "extras" and get back to making sure the base distribution is solid? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] [Fwd: xmms-0.9.5.1-19991020cvs1]
On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 07:45:05PM -0600, Sam wrote: > Ryan Weaver wrote: > > >xmms-0.9.5.1-19991020cvs1.i386.rpm517611 > >xmms-0.9.5.1-19991020cvs1.src.rpm 745487 > >xmms-devel-0.9.5.1-19991020cvs1.i386.rpm 14847 > >xmms-esd-0.9.5.1-19991020cvs1.i386.rpm 12955 > >xmms-gnome-0.9.5.1-19991020cvs1.i386.rpm 16101 > >xmms-mesa-0.9.5.1-19991020cvs1.i386.rpm11576 > >xmms-mikmod-0.9.5.1-19991020cvs1.i386.rpm 37802 > > > >Download locations and build machine information listed below. > > > >RPMs are built with rpm version 3.0.2. > >Required programs listed are either updates or are not in the default > >RedHat 5.2 installation. I don't mean to be an wet blanket, but why is this being forwarded to the Mandrake newbie list? The announcement mentions that the packages are built against Red Hat 5.2 -- it doesn't even use the same libraries as Mandrake's current distribution! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] BUG: 6.1 -- chkfontpath
Another one... Trying to remove fonts from the xfs fontserver using the chkfontpath utility results in a segmentation fault: Script started on Wed Oct 20 22:05:34 1999 [root@tippy fonts]# chkfontpath --list Current directories in font path: 1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled 2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled 3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled 4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc 5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo 7: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ttfonts 8: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 9: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi [root@tippy fonts]# chkfontpath --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/StarOffice [root@tippy fonts]# chkfontpath --list Current directories in font path: 1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled 2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled 3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled 4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc 5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo 7: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ttfonts 8: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 9: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi 10: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/StarOffice [root@tippy fonts]# chkfontpath --remove /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/StarOffice Segmentation fault (core dumped) [root@tippy fonts]# Script done on Wed Oct 20 22:06:08 1999 -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] BUG: 6.1 -- portmap
Continuing the bug parade... I was cleaning up my system tonight, removing unnecessary packages. I removed the portmap package, but noticed that it showed up again in the output of 'rpm -qa'. Here's a transcript of the activity: Script started on Wed Oct 20 21:37:50 1999 [root@tippy /root]# rpm -qa | grep portmap portmap-4.0-6mdk [root@tippy /root]# rpm -e portmap error reading information on service portmap: No such file or directory execution of script failed error reading information on service portmap: No such file or directory execution of script failed [root@tippy /root]# rpm -qa | grep portmap portmap-4.0-6mdk [root@tippy /root]# rpm -Uvh /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/portmap-4.0-6mdk.i586.rpm [A[root@tippy /root]# rpm -Uvh /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/portmap-4.0-6mdk.i586.rpm package portmap-4.0-6mdk is already installed [root@tippy /root]# exit Script done on Wed Oct 20 21:38:19 1999 Why doesn't the portmap package remove itself from the installed packages database? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] How to market Linux?
On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 04:45:48PM +, M Thompson wrote: > Hi All, > > I have been a member of this list (Mandrake Newbie) for a short while now > and know that there are a ton of knowledgeable participants on it...I am > taking a Marketing class as part of my MBA curriculum. For my Marketing > project, I chose Linux. I have to develop a plan to Market my product > choice (Linux). You might do well to look up the S-1 filing from Red Hat's recent IPO for some of their ideas about marketing Linux. The EDGAR website (sorry, no URL) should carry it. > I have already collected an extensive list of internal strengths and > weaknesses. I now need to develop a list of "external" threats and > opportunities. Specifically, I want to find some political-legal threats > and opportunities, cultural threats and opportunities, economic threats and > opportunities, and demographic threats and opportunities. Political-Legal threat: Intellectual property claims from commercial developers Cultural threat: A loss of the "linux development is cool" mentality A big flamefest among senior kernel developers (Linus can't do this all by himself anymore) Economic threat: Commercial distributions could be hurt by cheaper competitors (cheapbytes, etc) Demographic threat: See cultural above, if the "linux is cool" aura around Linux is lost, we lose new users. Specifically: BeOS, *BSD, etc. > If possible, please steer me toward a website that lists some of the > external threats and opportunities facing Linux. If possible, feel free to > give me your personal insights. You might do best at the Linux Internation site, as they're primarily interested in marketing Linux to the suits. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Gnome upgrade!
On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 10:53:43AM -0400, Miguel Rodriguez wrote: > > Hi everybody. > > Iam very glad cause very cool things are happening in the Desktop arena. > Recently we saw the Octuber Gnome and Enlightenment 0.16 releases. My question > is why Mandrake users can't enjoy them? > I was looking for them in Mandrake website and found plenty good things but in > the cooker section (no /updates). > Second question: why Mandrake doesn't put the gnome and enlightenment releases > on updates? Because /updates should be for security and usability updates only. By all rights, the new enlightenment should be packaged up properly and released as an update to fix the 6.1 crash. > Last question: Can I use cooker's files to upgrade gnome and enlightenment in > 6.1? Good question! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] BUG: 6.1
On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 05:48:39AM -0700, Kumba wrote:
> In regards to the CD glitch you had:
>
> >>hdd: ATAPI reset complete
> >>ATAPI device hdd:
> >> Error: Unit attention -- (Sense key=0x06)
> >> Power on, reset or bus device reset occurred
> >>--
> >> (asc=0x29, ascq=0x00)
> >>hdd: cdrom_decode_status: status=0x51 {
> >>DriveReady
> >> SeekComplete Error }
> >>hdd: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x30
> >>ide0: reset: success
>
> I got that error when I used an unsuccessfully burned
> copy of Mandrake (Adaptec choked on the CD-R during
> the table of contents writing phase, I've since been
> thru 3 CD-R's in trying to copy). So you might wanna
> check the CD surface for any kind of scratches or
> particles...
Nah, this is a brand new, outta the box CD. I checked the CD for scratches
and dust, but found nothing.
--
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] BUG: 6.1
On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 07:40:36AM -0600, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > 1) By default, Mandrake attempts to turn on DMA for available IDE devices. > > > > Attempting to copy the contents of a CDROM to my hard drive, I encountered > > > > the following errors: > > > > > > Um, no 6.1 shiped without the ide patch > > > > What does that mean?? My boot logs show "DMA" turned on for the hard drive > > and CDROM. /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime DOES seem to affect whether > > DMA is turned on at the end of the boot. > > It means that it didn't ship with DMA on by default.. (plz take note i > didn't personaly package the kernel, but i did just double check) > " > kernel-2.2-i586.config:# CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO is not set > " > so the kernel is not the culpret. > > verifying /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime, is not so hard to test. > comment out the actual "hdparm -q -d1 blah blah" and replace it with a > touch /axalon.sux > > (for the extra paranoid it checks also for "nohdparm", opti will do other > things also further along) > > I am curious as to what MB and HD controler your useing. I'm using a Asus BP6 board with their onboard PIIX4. I am not using the Ultra66 interface for any of the devices. I have stocked the machine with 2 Celeron 400's (not overclocked), 128M of RAM, and linux-compatible hardware. Here's what /proc/pci says about the IDE interface: IDE interface: Intel 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 1). Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xf000 [0xf001]. Bus 0, device 7, function 2: The drives are a Quantum Bigfoot 6.4G hard drive and a Ricoh MP7040A CDRW. I have verified that the mandrake_everytime script does not affect the issue one way or the other. It must have been fsck-rage that made me think it did. One gets a little testy after three fsck's (including one that dropped me to the root prompt) within a 10 minute period. I reset the BIOS to show UltraDMA being activated "Auto" and booted the machine. DMA was on for both the hard drive (/dev/hda) and the cdrom (/dev/hdd). The hard lockup occurred while copying from CDROM->HD. I rebooted the machine and reset the BIOS to "disable" UltraDMA for both interfaces and started Linux. The error messages still appear in /var/log/messages when attempting to copy from CDROM->HD. dmesg shows the following: hda: QUANTUM BIGFOOT_CY6480A, 6204MB w/67kB Cache, CHS=13446/15/63, DMA hdd: ATAPI 20X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA So, the kernel believes that the drives are still DMA-capable at boottime despite the BIOS switch. hdparm reports: /dev/hda: multcount= 0 (off) I/O support = 0 (default 16-bit) unmaskirq= 0 (off) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) nowerr = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 8 (on) geometry = 13446/15/63, sectors = 12706470, start = 0 which seems to verify that somewhere along the way, DMA got enabled on the drives. /usr/doc/Documentation/Configure.help says that DMA is disabled by default unless the CONFIG_BLK_IDEDMA_AUTO is turned on. I have verifed that the option is not enabled in the default kernel-2.2-i586-smp.config (got more errors while installing the source package, good thing the machine didn't lock up). Here are the relevant installed kernel packages: kernel-2.2.13-4mdk kernel-headers-2.2.13-4mdk kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.2.13-4mdk kernel-smp-2.2.13-4mdk kernel-source-2.2.13-4mdk > > > > 2) Inability to compile a kernel. Attempting a 'make menuconfig' yields: > > > > > > > The cflags get put there by rpm, (there was a non fuctional %post to check > > > gcc --version for 2.95+, actualy it functions but only if gcc is > > > installed at the time) Have a gander at the src.rpm > > > > Fine, so how did it end up in the distribution if the only gcc package you > > ship is gcc-fr? How did it NOT get caught during testing? Surely SOMEONE > > must have tried to build a kernel! It's not like it's slightly broke, it > > just plain doesn't work. Blatantly! > > pgcc, gcc, and egcs, all provide a link gcc. this is whats being tested, > not specificly what compiler package is installed. Certainly a 'gcc --version' would have made more sense rather than the simple existence of a file that's going to exist no matter what, wouldn't you agree? > (again not my package, but) kernel is one of the exceptions that is not > compiled with pgcc, think it was egcs (chmouel,bero ?). I remeber it was > something to do with io ports So in order to compile the kernel, what package do I need? Why wasn't that package included in the distribution? Did you expect people NOT to compile their own kernels? > Seems it will happen only on a clean install > also doesn't seem the gcc check was ever applyed to the cooker .spec Considering that Mandrake has been pretty vocal about "install don't upgrade", one would expect that someone at Mandrak
Re: [newbie] BUG: 6.1
On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 10:22:54AM -0400, Singer XJ Wang wrote: > also, what version of GCC? Doesn't ship with gcc, it uses pgcc-1.1.3 instead. > On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Singer XJ Wang wrote: > > > Okay, two quickies: > > > > Mandrake 6.1 is pretty much 99% Compatible with RedHat 6.1 right? Supposed to be. I haven't used RH6.1. Yet. > > does it use GCC or is it included or has it be abadoned in favor of pgcc? > > and what version of libc does it have? 6.0? It has apparently been abandoned for pgcc. glibc is 2.1.1 -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] BUG: 6.1
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 10:03:57PM -0600, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Two more bugs to report: > > > > 1) By default, Mandrake attempts to turn on DMA for available IDE devices. > > Attempting to copy the contents of a CDROM to my hard drive, I encountered > > the following errors: > > Um, no 6.1 shiped without the ide patch What does that mean?? My boot logs show "DMA" turned on for the hard drive and CDROM. /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime DOES seem to affect whether DMA is turned on at the end of the boot. > > [SNIP] > > > > Finally, I modified /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime to change the -d1 to > > -d0 in the hdparm line and rebooted the machine. > > This only gets used if opti is specified on the cmdline, "opti" is not specified on the cmdline. As above, mandrake_everytime DOES seem to have an effect on whether DMA is enabled or not at the end of the boot. > > After the reboot, I again attempted the copy only to be greeted with the > > same errors followed by: > > > > [SNIP] > > Thinking that I'd simply bypass the bad judgement on Mandrake's part, I > > moved to compiling my own kernel. Once again, I'm hit with a bug: > > > > 2) Inability to compile a kernel. Attempting a 'make menuconfig' yields: > > > > [SNIP] > > > > * RPM packaging is supposed to ensure that binary packages are reliably > > recreatable using the source package. If I can't even get the resulting > > source to build, how did you manage to compile the thing in the first > > place? > > The cflags get put there by rpm, (there was a non fuctional %post to check > gcc --version for 2.95+, actualy it functions but only if gcc is > installed at the time) Have a gander at the src.rpm Fine, so how did it end up in the distribution if the only gcc package you ship is gcc-fr? How did it NOT get caught during testing? Surely SOMEONE must have tried to build a kernel! It's not like it's slightly broke, it just plain doesn't work. Blatantly! > > * Where the hell is the quality testing?! I've only owned this > > distribution for two days and already I've tripped over three bugs that > > should not happen. > > [SNIP] > > the problem. Actually, I don't think I've even seen a response from anyone > > at Mandrake for any of the reported problems. > > You guys really want to download 30+ megs to not have to manual edit a > CFLAGS= ? You guys want to keep hearing the complaints? It's broke. Fix it. Is that really so difficult to comprehend? Sheesh, you'd think Mandrake would want to get that one fixed for sheer "brown paper bag" value. > > I'm not a clueless, confused, newbie user. I'm not adverse to fixing these > > problems myself. However, I'd prefer the opportunity to shoot MYSELF in the > > foot prior to Mandrake grabbing the gun and doing it for me. > > > > Well? You got my money, how about giving me a workable product for it? > > > > Consider putting that on a bulletin board somewhere. You'd do well to take > > it to heart. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Follow-up to SMP troubles
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 10:27:05PM -0400, John May wrote: > Here's what VMware has to say about the SMP troubles I, and others, are > having. The whole article is quoted for clarity. --- SNIP --- > Does this mean that Linux-Mandrake is a "lame" distribution? It sure does. It means that they modified what the kernel reports as it's version, but they didn't modify /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h to reflect that fact. For a quick fix, try editing /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h so that the UTS_RELEASE line looks like this: #define UTS_RELEASE "2.2.13-4mdksmp" (just add the smp to the end of the string) Then try installing VMware. If it works then, submit a bug to the bugs@linux-mandrake address, post a LOUD message on this list announcing the problem and the fix, and then pat yourself on the back for doing more testing on this operating system than Mandrake apparently did. Yes, I'm a little peeved at the quality of 6.1... -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] BUG: 6.1
Two more bugs to report:
1) By default, Mandrake attempts to turn on DMA for available IDE devices.
Attempting to copy the contents of a CDROM to my hard drive, I encountered
the following errors:
hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
hdd: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hdd: DMA disabled
hda: timeout waiting for DMA
hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hda: DMA disabled
and then the entire machine locked up. The keyboard was frozen and I ended
up "kicking the Big Red Button" on the machine.
I modified my BIOS settings to disable DMA support for the interfaces and
rebooted. Trying to make the copy, the same errors and lockup (and
resolution occurred).
Finally, I modified /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime to change the -d1 to
-d0 in the hdparm line and rebooted the machine.
After the reboot, I again attempted the copy only to be greeted with the
same errors followed by:
hdd: ATAPI reset complete
ATAPI device hdd:
Error: Unit attention -- (Sense key=0x06)
Power on, reset or bus device reset occurred -- (asc=0x29, ascq=0x00)
hdd: cdrom_decode_status: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdd: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x30
ide0: reset: success
The machine did not lock up this time, but I'm a bit worried by the
messages. This machine had NO PROBLEMS running Mandrake 6.0 and had no
problems running 2.3.x kernels.
Thinking that I'd simply bypass the bad judgement on Mandrake's part, I
moved to compiling my own kernel. Once again, I'm hit with a bug:
2) Inability to compile a kernel. Attempting a 'make menuconfig' yields:
gcc -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -pipe -s -mpentium
-mcpu=pentium -march=pentium -ffast-math -fexpensive-optimizations -malign-loops=2
-malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -DLOCALE
-I/usr/include/ncurses -DCURSES_LOC="" -c lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
cc1: Invalid option `preferred-stack-boundary=2'
make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.13/scripts/lxdialog'
make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
This leaves me with a couple questions:
* RPM packaging is supposed to ensure that binary packages are reliably
recreatable using the source package. If I can't even get the resulting
source to build, how did you manage to compile the thing in the first
place?
* Where the hell is the quality testing?! I've only owned this
distribution for two days and already I've tripped over three bugs that
should not happen.
TO THE MANDRAKE STAFF:
I know that the second bug has already been reported to this list. I
haven't seen a reponse from Mandrake concerning an updated package to fix
the problem. Actually, I don't think I've even seen a response from anyone
at Mandrake for any of the reported problems.
I'm not a clueless, confused, newbie user. I'm not adverse to fixing these
problems myself. However, I'd prefer the opportunity to shoot MYSELF in the
foot prior to Mandrake grabbing the gun and doing it for me.
Well? You got my money, how about giving me a workable product for it?
Consider putting that on a bulletin board somewhere. You'd do well to take
it to heart.
--
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Installing from other packages
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 09:16:00PM -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, you wrote: > > > > SuSE uses RPM. And RPM's are tons easier than tarballs. :) > > > Yeah...I didn't realize that SuSE uses RPM as well. :-) Good to know. > I was wondering why people keep getting referred to SuSE's web site > to get apps. :-) Part of the "go to SuSE" is because they've done some good work implementing X servers that aren't yet available from XFree. Dirk Hondel (I think I've mis-remembered his name) heads the XFree86 project and is also associated with SuSE in some fashion. Red Hat _used_ to do some work in this area also. Their series was called XBF (X Binary Free, or something like that) and were binary-only servers that they used as bargaining chips to get video card companies to allow them to open the source. Precision Insight worked at signing the NDAs and creating the code then Red Hat put their brand on them. You'll probably recognize the Precision Insight name as the guys that are currently working on integrating OpenGL into the XFree 4.0 code base. Not sure how well that work is going, but I'd imagine that we've got to be getting close to a 4.0 release soon. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] FTP install...
On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 08:24:26AM +0800, Aaron deRozario wrote: > Just out of interest - what is the telnet client included in windows called? telnet. Of course, there's no pretty GUI for it, so Windows doesn't exactly announce that it's installed. You'll either have to create an icon for it on the desktop (or add it to a menu), or use the Run... item from the Start menu to launch it. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] terminal emulation problems
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 10:03:21PM +0200, Jose Ramon Delgado wrote: > Hi , I am trying to connect my labtop to the serial port of my PC > with Linux , and actually a got it , but the problem is that the > speed of the comunication is really slow , ( for example 5 minutes just > to load the mandrake init page where you enter the login and password) , > I am using procommplus and Reflection X and even if I put the speed > line to 115200 bps is the same problem , I am using the getty command ' > in the inittab file with this speed , , I am NOT using a Null modem > cable and it still works but really really slowly. Trying to use X over a connection that slow will be exactly as painful as you describe. You can try finding some information about LBX, an X protocol compressor which will make the connection feel a bit faster, but I don't know if the Reflection X suite is compatible with it. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Intel 810 chipset
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 03:55:42PM -0400, Michael R. Batchelor wrote: > Has anyone tried, successfully or unsuccessfully, > to install Mandrake 6.1 on an Intel 810 motherboard? > Does any Xserver support that chipset yet? Is this a repost? I think I remember responding to this question a couple weeks ago... The i810 is a motherboard chipset, not a video chipset. Any idea what the video chipset is? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Installing from other packages
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 04:09:35PM +0100, Simon Norris wrote: > Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but the applications you install will > mainly depend on the Linux Kernel you're running. If your kernel is > compatible, you should be relatively trouble free. See if you can find the > install spec for Staroffice, particularly your version, it may need a > particular X type aswell. > > > Is it possible to install an app from one Linux package into another? I > > have a SuSE 6.2 with StarOffice (among others) and I would like to be able > > to install it in Mandrake. If this can be done, how so? I have Mandrake > > 6.1 CD-ROM only, not the commercial distribution. When I've tried to > > install SuSE, the options are there to install the applications. How would > > I install these under Mandrake? and Would the StarOffice distributed > > with the commercial SuSE 6.2 only work with SuSE 6.2 (another words, is it > > licenced for use only with SuSE)? Actually, it's not so much kernel version that will give you trouble with applications, it's libraries. In the case of the SuSE 6.2 StarOffice, you'll probably be okay installing it into your Mandrake system. SuSE also uses RPM, so if it doesn't work correctly, you can easily and cleanly rip it back out. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Installing from other packages
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 11:09:52AM -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, you wrote: > > > > Is it possible to install an app from one Linux package into another? I > > have a SuSE 6.2 with StarOffice (among others) and I would like to be able > > to install it in Mandrake. If this can be done, how so? I have Mandrake > > 6.1 CD-ROM only, not the commercial distribution. When I've tried to > > install SuSE, the options are there to install the applications. How would > > I install these under Mandrake? and Would the StarOffice distributed > > with the commercial SuSE 6.2 only work with SuSE 6.2 (another words, is it > > licenced for use only with SuSE)? > > > You should be able to get the "tarball" distribution of > Star Office from the StarOffice website > (www.stardivision.com...which redirects you to a Sun.com > website ) and install it in there. I'm not sure you can > use the version of SO that comes with SuSE, as it may come > in an incompatible format. Sure you can use the "alien" > package convertor, but it'd just be easier to get the > tarball and install it, I think. :-) SuSE uses RPM. And RPM's are tons easier than tarballs. :) -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] DNS Server for Mandrake?
On Tue, Oct 19, 1999 at 12:22:53AM -0400, Paul Hoy wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know the name of the DNS RPM package that comes with Mandrake? bind, bind-utils, bind-devel -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] DCC
On Mon, Oct 18, 1999 at 09:27:50AM -0600, Guillermo Belli wrote: > > I need to share some file betweeb two PCs I own, and because the files are big > (5 mb or so) it is not possible to do that with floppies. So I connect them via > parallel-clable with winsucks' Direct Cable Connection utility. How can I do > the same in Linux? If I could do this in Linux I won't need to boot into > winsucks from my primary PC, I don't know much more than the name, but look into PLIP. It's something provided by the kernel that allows IP over a parallel cable. It _should_ allow you to do the Linux->Windows transfers with the stuff you've got now. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Symbolic links between Netscape inbox files in Linux and DOS
On Mon, Oct 18, 1999 at 10:49:03PM +0100, colin.murphy wrote: > It would be kinda neat if I could set up a symbolic links for Netscape > in Linux to use the equivalent DOS files for things like the message > files. This would keep both Netscape's in sync. > > Would this work? More importantly, if not, why not? Sometimes there's > more to be gained by understanding why something doesn't work. > > Of course, if it is practical, how would you go about it? Give it a try and let us know how it works! (Seriously, I don't think I've ever seen any messages from anyone who's tried it) Be sure to make a backup of the DOS side of things so they don't get hosed. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Q about excessive HDD swapping when in KDE
On Mon, Oct 18, 1999 at 09:01:21PM -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > May I suggest you look at Penguin Computing in the future? At least > for straight linux boxes. :-) Don't know how their price compares > (haven't really researched it) but at least you know that if it works > in Linux, chances are it'll work under other O/S's! :-) > www.penguincomputing.com. > Note: I do NOT work for them and have no relationship with them. I > just saw their poster/ad in Linux Journal (check it out! ) and > liked their philosophy! :-) Those are the "Good evening Mr. Gates, I'll be your server tonight" ads? I __LOVE__ that ad. There was a Tshirt place advertised on Linux Weekly News or LinuxToday that was offering that ad as a tshirt. I'm truly tempted. :) -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Q about excessive HDD swapping when in KDE
On Mon, Oct 18, 1999 at 08:44:12AM -0400, Michael Lueck wrote: > On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:17:46 -0400, Steve Philp wrote: > > >To check what Linux detected, use the command 'free'. The output will > >look like: > > Right on the nose! Total Mem= 14616 > > Should I have used the paramater when starting the install to tell it I have > 128MB? This last time I didn't want to look up the boot paramater so I just > used the expert paramater. > > Your instructions worked 100% > > So, if this is a bug, how shall I report it. Unfortunately, it's a hardware bug. BUT, the good news is that it SHOULD be worked around in the 2.3.x/2.4.x kernel (when 2.4.x is released, of course). There are a number of ways to ask a machine how much RAM is installed. Some of those ways will crash a machine in extremely unpretty ways. For the 2.2.x line of kernels, Linux takes the safe route and believes what the machine tells it based on a single method. Since your hardware lies, you have to call it's bluff manually. Hope that helps! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Running script as root
James Stewart wrote: > > Hi, > > I make my ppp connections as the user "james" but want to have a script > that is run at connection time, which runs some commands as james and some > as root, as I need to call fetchnews as root. What's the best way to do > this? Commands in /etc/ppp/ip-up.local will be run as root when the PPP connection is brought up. Place the commands you want executed as root into that file. > Also, apmd is run when I boot the system. What file do I change to affect > how low the battery on my laptop can go before I get system messages every > minute warning me about it? It gets very annoying getting messages when > the battery has 45 minutes of life left to it. "man apmd" should give the information you need. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] formatting hard drive
On Thu, Jun 03, 1999 at 04:39:33PM -0700, Hidong Kim wrote: > Hi, > > I just installed Mandrake 5.3 on a machine with a single 10.1 GB ide > drive. During the installation, I only set up a 200 mb /boot, a 2 gb /, > and 190 mb of swap in three logical partitions. Now that the system is > running, I want to format the rest of the 7 gb or so on the drive into a > single ext2 partition, but I'm having problems. Here's the partition > table after creating the new ext2-to be partition (/dev/hda4): > > Disk /dev/hda: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 19650 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes > >Device BootStart End Blocks Id System > /dev/hda1 * 1 407 205096+ 83 Linux native > /dev/hda2 408 4471 2048256 83 Linux native > /dev/hda3 4472 4846 1890005 Extended > /dev/hda4 484719650 7461216 83 Linux native > /dev/hda5 4472 459662968+ 82 Linux swap > /dev/hda6 4597 472162968+ 82 Linux swap > /dev/hda7 4722 484662968+ 82 Linux swap > > > > When I do '/sbin/mkfs -t ext2 /dev/hda4 7461216', I get the error: > > mke2fs 1.12, 9-Jul-98 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09 > mkfs.ext2: Filesystem larger than apparent filesystem size. > Proceed anyway? (y,n) > > If I say yes, the screen gets filled with errors about not being able to > write 8 blocks in inode table. This is the procedure I used to format > two scsi hard drives on two other Linux machines. How do I format the > rest of this ide drive? Thanks, You need to run fdisk and create /dev/hda8 that contains the remainder of the /dev/hda4 extended partition (remember, hda5 and 6 both reside INSIDE hda4!!). After you create that partition and reboot, you should be able to mke2fs on /dev/hda8. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] SAMBA
On Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 01:32:46AM +, Philip C. Hewitt II wrote: > thanks I works for every Windows95 machine I've tested it on but now I find that > it will not work on Windows98 PCs...it just keeps asking for the password for > IPC$...and no matter what I put in there I get rejected and an incorrect > password...HELP...I'm trying to convince my boss's boss to go with linux and I > need to get this working!1 Check the SAMBA documentation. Microsoft changed the password techniques between 95 and 98 and so there's some extra configuration to do. It's covered in the docs, though. > Tigani B wrote: > > > > Have you define samba users using command "smbadduser"? If you use this > > command to add new samba users, it'll ask you the "smbpasswd" as well. > > > > In smb.conf, have you enabled "encrypted password = Yes"? > > > > >Thanks for using NetForward! > > >http://www.netforward.com > > >v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v > > > > > >After I upgraded my Mandrake5.3 to use the 2.2.7 kernels SAMBA daemon > > stopped > > >loading...I read all the man pages and all the howtos...I even tried > > manually > > >starting it and it just doesn't start...I recompiled the kernel with smbfs > > >support just to make sure and still when I try and connect from Windows it > > >prompts me for the password for IPC$...my user name and passwords are all > > >sync'ed...help -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] kppp connects finally!!!but...
On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 02:44:20PM -0500, Jose Alberto Abreu wrote: > s3x escribió: > > > i've finally got kppp to connect to my isp but after the connection is made > > i try to ping and the terminal window hangs. i open up netscape and it > > can't find anyplace. i try to change the mail account from within netscape > > but that window hangs netscape. i endup having to disconnect. anyone have > > any clues of where i should start? > > > > thanks > > This also happened to me on my first Mandrake install (i had several problems > with this so I opted to redo everything from scratch), but now when I want to > use kppp I get an error message: > > > /etc/resolv.conf is missing! > Ask your administrator to create > a non-empty file that has the appropiate > read/write permisions Put something similar to this in /etc/resolv.conf: search nameserver nameserver <2nd.isp.nameserver-if-available> and then set the proper permissions on it: chmod 644 /etc/resolv.conf > Once I can get to the internet Ill ditch window$ (ok, maybe i'll use it for > games) forever! Promises, promises! :) -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] linux all over again.
On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 05:49:03AM -0700, Len de Roder wrote: > ave . > > I put linux on my pc a while ago, since then i read some manuals (bits and > pieces) it seems it's smarter to make a separate partition for the kernel. > I'm going to put linux on my disk again ( it doens't work proper now) my > question is > > how much space to i give that different partition?? i have linux mandrake > ??.?? i forgot .. i believe it was the last edition before mandrake fused > with (i don't remember) (sad arent i?). > > I hope you can help me.. 10M seems about appropriate. Small enough not to make a big dent, but large enough to hold a few "test" kernels along with a production kernel. :) Enjoy! -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] TNT2 and Venus
On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 07:27:52PM +0200, Martin Cleaver wrote: > > And which mail software did you use to reply and keep the gif and > > html??? :) > > I admit it: I want OE for Linux! ;-) > What else is capable of downloading from POP and saving on the server for x > days etc... Dunno. I use mutt or fetchmail to retrieve my mail. Of course, the previous message was written with Netscape. Hehehe -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Mounting Remote Windows Drives
On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 11:49:49AM -0400, Duke16 wrote: > What is the best way to be able to get to my remote windows hard drive > which is connected to the same network as the Mandrake-Linux Computer. smbfs support in the kernel. > and what would be the best way of getting to the linux drive from the > windows computer? SAMBA. Good luck! -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] configuring Xfree86
On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 01:35:54PM -0500, eahenryii wrote: > Thanks for the advice! I ran Xconfigurator. The first choice is the Card. > I chose wd 90c24a2, which is the factory spec card for my laptop. > > I was exited from the program and the message > > < Server doesn't exist, can't continue. > tried to use ../../usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA> Insert the Mandrake CD into the CD-ROM drive and type: mount /mnt/cdrom then install the XFree server for your video chipset: rpm -Uvh /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/XFree86-SVGA (the tab is so the filename will auto-complete. I don't know what the version numbers are on the M6 stuff) Next, rerun Xconfigurator and choose you video chipset and one of the generic monitors that will support the video modes you want to use. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Relevance of Mandrake
Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote: > > On Sun, 23 May 1999, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: > > > I recently spoke to my computer hardware dealer about upgrading some of > > my computer parts. He told me that once he was done he would install > > RedHat 6.0 for me. I told him I wanted Mandrake and this is what he > > said: > > > > "Mandrake is dead. > > Now if we were Microsoft, he'd get a $100,000,000,000 lawsuit for this. ;) > Tell him the fact that we don't do this is enough of a reason to > support Mandrake. ;) > > > The whole idea behind Mandrake was to integrate KDE > > with RedHat. Now that RedHat has KDE as an option, what's the need for > > Mandrake?" > > Until we have a better list (should be soon), you can tell him Mandrake > 6.0 is > > - faster (pentium optimizations) > - easier (some packages better preconfigured; user creation at > installation time; desktopcfg to allow easy switching between KDE, > GNOME and Plain X; more packages) Might I toss in a vote for trying to incorporate something like Debian's configuration stage into the package management? That's the ONE thing that is truly missing from Red Hat's manager. When I installed a package in Debian and got done answering the questions, I knew that package was ready to run. Under Red Hat/Mandrake/etc, it's a hunting game trying to figure out exactly which configuration file I need to edit in order to get something resembling a working package out of it. > - less space consuming (bzip2'ed man pages) > - more current (for example kernel 2.2.9, kde 1.1.1final, gnome-libs > 1.0.9) > - better with hardware compatibility (CD writers, ISDN, ...) > - closer to its users (did you ever get a reply to a feature suggestion > or something from RH?) > > I'm quite sure there are more things worth mentioning, but I'm currently > working on some other important stuff. ;) And one personal pet peeve... could we PLEASE get some more external support into PHP3? That package is damn near bare and makes it impossible to use without repackaging the SRPM (which, of course, you don't get when you buy the CheapBytes...). You ship PostgreSQL in the distribution, why not include support for it in PHP3 so people aren't left wondering why the manual says the commands should work, but all you get is errors trying to run the scripts. Damned frustrating. (And pretty far off-topic for a newbie list as well, my apologies!) -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Long Filename MS-DOS support?
Dan Brown wrote: > > I know the long filenames in the DOS/Win95 filesystem are a kluge, > but does linux support them? If so, at what version of the kernel? > Thanks for any info! Since way back in the middle parts of the 2.0.x kernel series. Just mount the partition as vfat and you're all set! -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] How to receive mail under shell?
On Thu, May 13, 1999 at 03:31:18PM +1200, John l.yn wrote: > Hi: > I can receive my internet mail throught Kppp under X-window and also can > receive local network mail using mailx under shell. > I want to receive my internet mail under shell. How to do this? Use fetchmail or a mail client that supports IMAP or POP3 mailboxes (mutt can do it). -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] aliases
On Thu, May 13, 1999 at 04:01:48AM -0500, Meanie wrote: > I thought I knew the answer to this one myself... guess I was wrong. > This is real simple. All I want to do is specify aliases. In > particular, I want 'ls' to be 'ls --color -a -p -w 80'. I have > specified this in /etc/skel/.bashrc and rebooted numerable times, only The /etc/skel directory is used as a "base image" of the files you want installed when you create new users. > to find that it didn't work. The line I added is still in .bashrc, but > evidently is doing absolutely nothing. Being a newbie, it's handy to be > able to know at a glance what is a directory, what is executable, etc., > and for some reason my columns are screwed up when I 'ls', so I ned to > have that -w 80 in there. Also, when I specify the alias at the command > line (as I must do every time I boot) it eventually stops working and I > have to re-alias. I thought maybe I wasn't running bash at startup, so > I've tried running it from the command line and that didn't work > either. I didn't specify to run bash -norc anywhere.. could it be doing > it on its own or something? Add your aliases to ~/.bashrc then logout and log back in and you'll have 'em! Good luck! -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] How to show the status of daemon services?
On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 11:25:50AM +1200, John l.yn wrote: > Hi: >I want to know the status of daemon services which configured in > 'inted.conf', such as HTTP, Database server, and so on .How to list the > running services? Have there any commands to do with them? You can find out available services with something like this: grep -v "^#" /etc/inetd.conf Note, however, that just because they're available, it doesn't mean they're currently running. Inetd spawns the process when someone contacts the port the service is connected to (you can find that out in /etc/services). -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] What char shall I type? using dip.
On Thu, May 13, 1999 at 04:25:31PM +1200, John l.yn wrote: > Hi: >I can connect using kppp with terminal mode. I want to use dip under > shell. How to continue it when I receive a lot of special char after > inputing username and password. If in kppp I just click 'Continue' button > and all things is ok. >What shall I do? Use the network configurator (netcfg) as root to configure the PPP interface, then you can use: /sbin/ifup ppp0 to bring up the link, and: /sbin/ifdown ppp0 to drop it. DIP is _NOT_ the tool you want to use... -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] MS Linux 98 is out!!!!!!
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 10:13:03PM -0500, Lyndon Lininger Sr. wrote: > I remember those days well. Had a commodore 64 myself what a joy. > > > Heh. Filesystem GUIs were around long before OS/2 or MacOS, though they > > were significantly less complex. Anyone remember GeOS for the Commodore > > 64/128 by Berkeley Softworks? Shockingly similar to early versions of > > MacOS. This was even before the days of mice (mouses?) and you had to > > maneuver around your "desktop" with a joystick. Eventually Commodore > > mice came along, and unless my memory is fading they were among the very > > first on the market. IBM users were relegated to 286 and eventually 386 > > machines and old IBM and MS-Dos, usually with the now forgotten "green > > screen" monochrome displays or, if you were _really_ lucky an EGA or CGA > > display. Hehe... man, those were the days. > > > > Off topic? Well, yeah... sorry. I think I've still got my GeoProgrammer 5.25" disks and manuals at home somewhere. Might have to look those up one of these days. :) -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] nfs problems
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 03:05:57PM -0700, Hidong Kim wrote: > Hi, > > I have a network of three Linux machines named weaver, ripley, and > jonesy. I have them networked, and their disks were all nfs mounted. > But then today, all of the sudden, weaver is not seeing ripley's disks, > and jonesy is not seeing weaver's disks. ripley is seeing all of the > nfs mounted disks. I tried to re-export and re-mount all three > machines. When I try 'mount -a' on weaver, I get the error twice: > "mount: RPC: Program not registered". I was using these computers last > night and everything seemed fine. I didn't change any configuration > files since then. I can still ping, telnet, and ftp between all three > machines. What could be wrong? Thanks, Check to make sure portmap and the RPC daemons are still running on all three machines. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Different Resoltions, No Virtual Desktop Size
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 07:50:55PM -0500, Matthew Stegman wrote:
> Original Message: from Birchall, Richard Subject - RE: [newbie] Different
>Resoltions, No Virtual Desktop Size
> > >She likes her screen resolution to be 1280x1024 (which
> > >operates at 60Hz on this monitor) while I like mine at 1024x768
> > >(about 72Hz here). This isn't a problem in itself, as I can easily
> > >change resolutions, using the Ctrl-Alt-+ (or -). However, then I
> > >get the desktop-larger-than-my-screen effect, of which I am not a
> > >big fan.
> >
> > Just disable the virtual desktop ?
> >
> > Open /etc/X11/XF86Config in a editor as root. At the end of this file there
> > is "Section Screen".
> >
> > Comment out the "Virtual" line with "#" (without the quotes).
>
> Excerpt from /etc/X11/XF86Config {
> Section "Screen"
> Driver "svga"
> # Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256
> #Device "Generic VGA"
> Device "Diamond Stealth 3D 4000"
> Monitor "My Monitor"
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth 24
> Modes "1280x1024" "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768"
> ViewPort0 0
> EndSubsection
> EndSection
> }
>
> We have no "Virtual" section. Neither of us like that "scrolling desktop"
> effect, so we answered "no" during setup when it asked if we wanted a desktop
> larger than the screen resolution. The problem arises when X starts up in
> 1280x1024, and I use Ctrl-Alt-minus to change to 1024x768. Now the desktop is
> larger than the screen. It appears that X makes the desktop the size of the
> largest resolution in the list, and never bothers to recalculate the size of
> the desktop to match the size of the screen (but if you're using the largest
> size listed, you're in luck!).
> So is there a way I can specify that the X-server use my own XF86Config, one
> where 1024x768 is the largest size listed? Or somehow tell it to force the
> desktop size to 1024x768 (just for me)?
> -Matt Stegman
Maybe you guys can split the difference and run 1152x900? :)
It doesn't look like it's possible to do it... At least, not from my
experimentation. And not with XDM running. Without it, you would be able
to create a script that would move config files around before starting the X
server, but XDM sort of rules that out.
Hmmm... This sort of bums me out... Windows can do it...
--
Steve Philp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Batch commands
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 02:52:28PM -0400, Luke Vandervort wrote: > Is there an equivalent to the dos batch commands in linux? > I would like to start x windows with the following command but do not want to type >the whole thing everytime. > > startx -- -bpp 16 > A couple ways to do this... First, if you want to use that for just your own user, create an alias in ~/.profile like this: alias startx="startx -- -bpp 16" If you want to modify it for all users (really, just make it the default startup condition for the X server), you'll want to add something to /etc/X11/XF86Config. It goes in the Display Section (the last sections) of the X server that you're using (there are probably three of them listed in the file). Just add a line: DefaultColorDepth 16 so it'll look something like this: Section "Screen" Driver "svga" Device "My Video Card" Monitor "My Monitor" DefaultColorDepth 32 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubsection EndSection Good luck! -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] How can run program automatic at boot?
On Thu, May 06, 1999 at 03:44:20PM +0800, John l.yn wrote: > Hi: >I dont know which file include the information. I have tired many *.conf. > I want to run one program at boot. /etc/rc.d/rc.local -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] About command ps.
On Thu, May 06, 1999 at 02:42:01PM +0100, Nick Kay wrote: > At 08:47 06/05/99 -0400, you wrote: > >John l.yn [EMAIL PROTECTED]] said: > > > >>I want to kill the daemon of inetd avoid rebooting. I use command > >>"ps aus" ,but inetd isnt listed. Why ? How to rerun the daemon after > >>kill it? > > > > > >Try:ps -A > > or even "killall inetd" > then restart it with "inetd" How about: /etc/rc.d/init.d/inet stop -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] TCP/IP for LAN
On Thu, May 06, 1999 at 06:18:21AM -0500, Meanie wrote: > Hey all.. thanks a ton for all the help thus far. I don't know much, > but I try to help out when I can. My new problem regards my Realtek 8029 > (NE2k compatible) PCI LAN card. I was pretty sure I had it set up right > upon installation (never had a chance to test it out), but after I > _finally_ got my modem working (read: dialing) it wouldn't actually > connect to the 'net -- I had Infinite Domain Name Search Syndrome > (IDNSS). So I fired up linuxconf and fiddled with the DNS and Gateway > stuff, and now my modem works but my network card doesn't. I'm itching > to fire up linuxconf and meddle some more, but I'm afraid I'll break my > modem or worse... linuxconf is a scary beast to a newbie; and a > dangerous one for "adventurous" newbies like myself who like to play > around with stuff until it works. > > The whole "adapter one", "adapter two" thing confuses me. I set up my > RTK8029 as adapter one originally and set my 'fictitious' IP address > that I use on the LAN (172.16.83.2 if it's important). When my modem > wouldn't work (dial but not actually connect), I set it up as adapeter > two on ppp0 and put all the DNS and Gateway info in it. I also > (stupidly it seems) changed my domain name to that of my ISP (I was > desperate). After that my modem worked. Is this correct? Does the > modem need to be set as a network adapter in linuxconf? Above all, is > there a config program I can run to set up my network card? I'd try the network configurator in control-panel, myself. I've never been real fond of linuxconf. To use network configurator, login as root, start X, open a terminal, type control-panel, click on the button that looks like a network chart, then click on the Interfaces button. Personally, I'd probably delete the two interfaces you've got setup now and start over. Click on each of the interfaces (leave 'lo' alone) and click Remove. Then click 'Add' to add them back in. Be sure NOT to set the ethernet card to default route, since it'll screw up your routing on the PPP connection. Drop another message if you need more help. I have a feeling that the network configurator will help you out in getting it up and running quickly. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] a webby question
On Sat, May 01, 1999 at 09:23:43PM -0700, Steve Winston wrote: > Hy, thanks for the reply. Maybe I am putting too much of a path. I'll > try what you say. > adios, Steve W. The problem that you're encountering is that the paths that you put into your webpages do not map directly to the filesystem. It's the same type of thing that FTP servers use. The servers change their notion of a "root directory" to somewhere other than the actual physical root of the server. Mostly it's for security reasons. You don't want someone to download /etc/passwd out of your FTP server, nor do you want them to read it via your HTTP server either. So, each of them changes root to a new location (FTP on Mandrake is /home/ftp, HTTP is /home/httpd, I believe). On the physical server, you can cd to the directory that contains your pages and get the pwd and it'll show you something like /home/httpd/html/sphilp. However, as far as the webserver is concerned when parsing webpages, that directory is actually /html/sphilp. That's why you're getting the problems when trying to see the images when you browse the page. Hope this explanation helps! > > > I can't upload my graphics to my webpage. Why? > > > > > > > > If the graphics files reside in the SAME directory > > as the HTML files, > > the IMG SRC line should not have a path on it, just > > the filename. > > Something like: > > > > > > > > should work fine. I take it that the uploading > > process DOES transfer > > the graphics files to the remote machine?? > > > > -- > > Steve Philp > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Q: XMessageBox
On Sun, May 02, 1999 at 06:56:58AM +0300, Martin Barnard wrote: > Hi, I was wondering if there was a program anywhere which will open a message > box in X containing a text string that's passed to it. > for example, if I wanted a bash script that would open a message box telling me > of an event when I have no terminals open. > If anyone knows of such a program, or can point me in the direction of making > one (I'm currently learning C) then I'd be very grateful. xmessage should do what you want. Use it as something like: xmessage -buttons OK:1,Cancel:2 "This is my message." The arguments after -buttons are the button labels to create and the exit code that will be returned when the user hits that button. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] RH 6 CD
On Sat, May 01, 1999 at 10:00:10PM -0700, Russ Westbrook wrote: > Hi All, > > Is there a place on Red Hats site that gives a list of everything that > will be on their CD? I've searched it and if it's there I missed it. I > am specifically wondering if WordPerfect 8 is included on the CD. How about asking on the appropriate mailing list? Mandrake != Red Hat. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] printer setup
On Thu, Apr 29, 1999 at 04:57:41PM -0700, Hidong Kim wrote: > Hi, > > I can't set up my printer, an HP DeskJet 870Cxi. It was working ok > after the initial installation of Mandrake 5.3 under kernel 2.0.36. > I've since compiled 2.2.6, and I can't get my printer to work. > printtool detects no printer. I've tried compiling parallel port and > printer support into the kernel, and also tried to load the parport, > parport_pc, and lp modules with no success. I tried following the > instructions on the Mandrake Web site: > > Printer problems: > > You printer will probably no work anymore after upgrade :) > You will have to add those lines to your /etc/conf.modules file: > >alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc >options parport_pc io=0x278 irq=5 <--must be set to your real > datas for io and irq > > Then re-run modprobe (modprobe parport_lowlevel). Please also re-run > printool and set your printer to the correct lp port (usually, a printer > previously recognized under /dev/lp1 will switch to > /dev/lp0). > > When I try the modprobe, I get the error: > > /lib/modules/2.2.6/misc/parport_pc.o: init_module: Device or resource > busy > parport: Device or resource busy > > What does this mean? Also, how do I find out the io port and irq for my > printer? I didn't write them down when the printer was working with the > stock kernel. Any suggestions most welcome. Thanks, You can find the IO port for the printer from the BIOS POST screen. Probably something like 0x278, 0x378, etc. The IRQ is typically 7. Check /proc/interrupts to make sure that the IRQ is not being used. You can check the IO port in /proc/ioports. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] PCI sound cards under linux?
On Thu, Apr 29, 1999 at 06:10:40PM -0700, Gryphon wrote: > I've got a Diamond Monster Sound MX300, and I'm > wondering if anyone knows a way to get this card > working in linux? It has full legacy support under > DOS, but I believe that a DOS helper program is > necessary to enable that. Has anyone got one of > these working in linux, or even a similar PCI card? If you first boot into DOS, then use LOADLIN to boot Linux, you'll probably be able to get the card to work in SB-compatibility mode. This will allow the DOS helper stuff to get loaded and put the card into the right mode. It worked for me a while back when I was fighting a Diamond Sonic Impact S70 card. I've since sold it and moved to something better supported under Linux. If they don't want to share the programming info, I don't want to share my money! -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Keyboard problem - HELP!!!!!!
On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 07:17:52PM -0400, James J. Capone wrote: > Try running Linuxconfig from the command prompt. This should give you the option of >changing it. All though I am not sure. > > On Monday, April 26, 1999 6:42 PM, Toshiro Viera Stalker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >wrote: > : Hi! I've installed Mandrake 5.3; in the installation I've chosen spanish as > : the language, but I picked the US keyboard layour. The problem is that now > : KDE has the spanish keyboard layout and I cannot change it to US. > : I've inspected the XF86Config file and I've found that "XkbLayout" was set > : to spanish, if I change it to english, when I reboot the machine "XkbLayout" > : is changed back to spanish! Do you have any idea about what > : program/script/whatever is changing that file? > : > : > : Best wishes, > : Toshiro. Or you could try modifying it in the Control Panel of KDE. I believe the keyboard settings are in the Input Devices section of the Control Panel menu. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Errors when trying to run X-Windows
On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 12:29:02PM -0700, Thomas Franks wrote: > I'm not actually using the Mandrake distribution, but I had > Redhat 5.2 installed and then downloaded and setup KDE. > It worked fine at first, but I ran xconfigurator to reset my > video profile, and now every time I try to start X-Windows > I get an error message: > execve failed for /etc/x11/x (errno 2) > > I have no idea what the error code means, and haven't found > a list of error codes on the net yet. I've tried running > xconfigurator again but to no avail. Can anyone clue me > in here, I don't want to have to reinstall everything just > to try and fix this! Do an: ls /usr/X11R6/bin/XF* and find the server that you're using, it'll be something like XF86_SVGA or XF86_Mach64. Then do this: cd /etc/X11 ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/ X Replace by the file name that the 'ls' command above gave you. Try your startx again and all should be fine. Good luck! -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] How to change the resolution of X-windows?
On Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 03:17:38PM +0800, John l.yn wrote: > Hi: > >I have two question below: > >1. I want to change the resolution of X-windows from 16 color to 24 bit > color.Help say that using 'alt'-'ctrl'-'+', but it doesnt work. There is a difference between resolution and color depth. To change resolution (pixels x pixels), use Ctrl-Alt- and Ctrl-Alt- To change color depth, you'll have to exit X and add a flag to your startx command. Something like this should work: startx -- -bpp 16 or startx -- -bpp 24 >2. The desktop is too big about 4 times than my screen of monitor. Why? I > have to move my mouse all around in order to find some thing on the screen. > > > Thanks! > > John l.yn > > -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
