Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 to 8.1 update ?

[Michael Viron]

Even better would be to place the /home partition on a completely separate
drive from the system drive (on the off chance that your system drive goes
bad).  Of course, if you don't have a second drive available, then the
suggestion below is perfectly fine in most cases.

Most servers I've set up have 3 separate hard drives.  One is a dedicated
system drive, one is a dedicated /home drive, and the other is a dedicated
backup drive.  I also typically set up remote encrypted backups as quickly
as possible.

Michael

--
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Project Manager / Primary Developer / Manager of Online Operations
General Education Online


>If you don't have a serperate /home partition then it would be a good 
>idea to partition your drive so that you do. That way if anything 
>terrible would happen to your installation, such as being mercilessly 
>attacked by the user in such a way that the system gets hosed, then your 
>data files are safe and remain uneffected by the mishap.




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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 to 8.1 update ?

[Mark Weaver]

Bernard Victor wrote:
> I had Mandrake 7.2 running and working pretty well, but got a copy of 8.2
> and decided to update. However I found I had lost a lot of my settings. I no
> longer had read/write access to my Windows partition except as root. Wine
> would not work, and the Wine conf file seemed to have been moved, so my old
> conf did not work. Because of this I could not use two essential Windows
> programs, Quicken and Agent.
> 
> I have therefore gone back to Mandrake 7.2, but would like to upgrade as I
> presume that there are quite a few improvements.
> 
> Can any one help, so that I can access my windows programs without any
> problems.
> 
> An e-mail reply would be useful.
> 
> Bernard Victor

Bernard,

It's generally accepted that to do a system upgrade from 7.2 to 8.x is 
not the best way to move from 7.2 to 8.x. There are enough differences 
between the two version that there are problems after the upgrade is 
finished. For best results it's recommended that you do a fresh install 
of Mandrake.

Assuming you have a seperate /home partition its perfectly safe to do a 
fresh install and not lose any of your data files on that partition. you 
will of course lose your system configuration and will have to do it 
over again. This can be somewhat aleviated by backing up certain 
configurations such as Postfix, Procmail, and the like. most of which 
lives in /etc.

If you don't have a serperate /home partition then it would be a good 
idea to partition your drive so that you do. That way if anything 
terrible would happen to your installation, such as being mercilessly 
attacked by the user in such a way that the system gets hosed, then your 
data files are safe and remain uneffected by the mishap.

Mark





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Re: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 pop3 server problem (should be simple for you)

[Jim Nuytens]

Pardon my jumping in here. I'm new to the list and taking a HUGE stab in the dark here.

I notice you have an @home account. By any chance, is this server also doing any 
firewalling? If so, is it configured to allow ports 25 and 113? You should have both 
ports 
open.

On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:53:39 -0700, Luc Martineau wrote:

>Hi
>my machine has a domain name associated to it wich resolvs just fine
>i tried sending to  username@ip addy of server   and i get the same resolts
>(A big nothing hehe)
>
>i am at a loss i really dont know what the problem is with the server
>could it be bad postfix configarations?

Re: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 pop3 server problem (should be simple for you)

[Luc Martineau]

Hi
my machine has a domain name associated to it wich resolvs just fine
i tried sending to  username@ip addy of server   and i get the same resolts
(A big nothing hehe)

i am at a loss i really dont know what the problem is with the server
could it be bad postfix configarations?

Luc
- Original Message -
From: "Tim Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Luc Martineau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 5:30 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 pop3 server problem (should be simple for
you)


> When you respond to that email address in your Hotmail account, what email
address is it?
> Is the email address [EMAIL PROTECTED]?  Does your machine
always have the same
> IP address?
>
> For example... I can send an email to my machine directly, since it always
has the same IP
> address, and it has a name that can be resolved.  Does your machine have
at least the first
> of those?
>
> It sounds like it would accept email, if only the Internet knows how to
get to your
> machine.
>
> So try sending email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  If that doesn't go through
then that's not
> where your machine is most likely.  Mandrake out of the box is set up to
accept that
> traffic.
> tdh
>
> --
> T. Holmes
> -
> UNIXTECHS.org
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -
> "Real Men Us Vi!"
>
>
> | Hi all
> | I finaly after a long bad day got mandrake up and running properly on my
server
> | i installed 7.2 the web server is perfect
> | postfix is doing its job (i can send email using an account on my server
to another accont say hotmail for example
> | but if i say use hotmail to send email to a email address that is on the
server i wont get it for some reason
> | it dont give any errors when my client looks for email it seems to go
threw fine just comes up with no new messages yet i did send a few from
diferent address to test out
> |
> | so in summary
> | i made an account  now using a seperate windows computer i can send
email using OE with postfix  (say to a hotmail account)
> | i then receive the email in the hotmail account but if i reply i will
never get the reply with the account on my server  but it does check for new
messages cause it dotn give errors
> |
> | thanks for the help
> |
> |
> | Luc
>   --
>

Re: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 pop3 server problem (should be simple for you)

[Tim Holmes]

When you respond to that email address in your Hotmail account, what email address is 
it?
Is the email address [EMAIL PROTECTED]?  Does your machine always have the 
same
IP address?

For example... I can send an email to my machine directly, since it always has the 
same IP
address, and it has a name that can be resolved.  Does your machine have at least the 
first
of those?

It sounds like it would accept email, if only the Internet knows how to get to your
machine.

So try sending email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  If that doesn't go through then that's not
where your machine is most likely.  Mandrake out of the box is set up to accept that
traffic.
tdh

--
T. Holmes
-
UNIXTECHS.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-
"Real Men Us Vi!"

 
| Hi all
| I finaly after a long bad day got mandrake up and running properly on my server
| i installed 7.2 the web server is perfect
| postfix is doing its job (i can send email using an account on my server to another 
|accont say hotmail for example 
| but if i say use hotmail to send email to a email address that is on the server i 
|wont get it for some reason
| it dont give any errors when my client looks for email it seems to go threw fine 
|just comes up with no new messages yet i did send a few from diferent address to test 
|out
| 
| so in summary
| i made an account  now using a seperate windows computer i can send email using OE 
|with postfix  (say to a hotmail account) 
| i then receive the email in the hotmail account but if i reply i will never get the 
|reply with the account on my server  but it does check for new messages cause it dotn 
|give errors
| 
| thanks for the help
| 
| 
| Luc
  -- 

Re: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 (not 8) where to download

[Juan Carlos]

El Sáb 16 Jun 2001 20:14, "Luc Martineau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrotes:
> hello
> i preffer mandrake 7.2 cause i found it worked bether for me but i lost my
> cd that had it does anyone know where i can go download it?
>
> thanks
>
> Luc


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Go to http://www.mandrake.com and look for donwload site near to you of the 
version 7.2. 
 
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RE: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 and FTP

[Mark Weaver]

Sorry about that...I realized that your post was a response to someone
else just after I sent the reply and went on to the next post.

As for the FTP...I've found it to be ok as long it's setup correctly. Not
that I'm issuing a challenge or anything, but mine is working ok so far.

Mark

On Fri, 11 May 2001, Franki wrote:

> Ummm, Thanks Mr Mark,
>
> I was answering someone elses question though, and it was the hosts.deny
> that caused the problem if I remember correctly
>
> my ssh works just fine thanks,, but I wouldn't be caught dead using FTP on
> my box... to insecure
>
> Thanks again...
>
> Frank
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, 11 May 2001 10:35 PM
> To: Franki
> Cc: Rules Address for MDK
> Subject: RE: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 and FTP
>
>
> Franki,
>
> this might sound like a stupid question, but i've found in the past i've
> had to ask myself the same question. are you "sure" the package
> openssh-server is installed? I've had the same situation a few times and
> almost each time when I "thought" that the server installed it was only
> the openssh-client that got installed. Which would give exactly the same
> error that you're recieving now.
>
> Also, you will want to check your /etc/hosts.deny file to make sure that
> you don't have a line in there that looks like this:
>
>   ALL:ALL EXCEPT localhost:DENY
>
> If that line is present then comment it out and you may find that
> connection is then possible.
>
> Mark
>
> On Thu, 10 May 2001, Franki wrote:
>
> > what are your security levels set at? do the other inetd or xinetd
> services
> > run? like pop3 or telnet
> >
> > what ports do you see if you portscan the box?
> >
> > do you have a firewall running and if so have you blocked the ftp and ssh
> > ports???
> >
> > you need to find out what is closing the connection,,,  and since both ftp
> > and ssh are affected, whats in your hosts.allow and hosts.deny?
> >
> > not much you can make suggestion wise without seeing the server, so I just
> > ask questions...  :-)
> >   -Original Message-
> >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Amy Eslinger
> >   Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2001 3:08 AM
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Subject: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 and FTP
> >
> >
> >   I ran a custom server install on Mandrake 7.2. I am unable to ftp to it
> or
> > access the server using a secure shell.
> >
> >   The sshd and inetd is running. The configuration files look accurate.
> The
> > ports are open.
> >   When I attempt to ssh, I receive the error, "connection closed by
> foreign
> > host."
> >
> >   If anyone has any insight, I'd be grateful!! Thanks, Amy
> >
> >
> >
>

RE: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 and FTP

[Mark Weaver]

Franki,

this might sound like a stupid question, but i've found in the past i've
had to ask myself the same question. are you "sure" the package
openssh-server is installed? I've had the same situation a few times and
almost each time when I "thought" that the server installed it was only
the openssh-client that got installed. Which would give exactly the same
error that you're recieving now.

Also, you will want to check your /etc/hosts.deny file to make sure that
you don't have a line in there that looks like this:

ALL:ALL EXCEPT localhost:DENY

If that line is present then comment it out and you may find that
connection is then possible.

Mark

On Thu, 10 May 2001, Franki wrote:

> what are your security levels set at? do the other inetd or xinetd services
> run? like pop3 or telnet
>
> what ports do you see if you portscan the box?
>
> do you have a firewall running and if so have you blocked the ftp and ssh
> ports???
>
> you need to find out what is closing the connection,,,  and since both ftp
> and ssh are affected, whats in your hosts.allow and hosts.deny?
>
> not much you can make suggestion wise without seeing the server, so I just
> ask questions...  :-)
>   -Original Message-
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Amy Eslinger
>   Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2001 3:08 AM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 and FTP
>
>
>   I ran a custom server install on Mandrake 7.2. I am unable to ftp to it or
> access the server using a secure shell.
>
>   The sshd and inetd is running. The configuration files look accurate. The
> ports are open.
>   When I attempt to ssh, I receive the error, "connection closed by foreign
> host."
>
>   If anyone has any insight, I'd be grateful!! Thanks, Amy
>
>
>

RE: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 and FTP

[Franki]

Ummm, Thanks Mr Mark,

I was answering someone elses question though, and it was the hosts.deny
that caused the problem if I remember correctly

my ssh works just fine thanks,, but I wouldn't be caught dead using FTP on
my box... to insecure

Thanks again...

Frank

-Original Message-
From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2001 10:35 PM
To: Franki
Cc: Rules Address for MDK
Subject: RE: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 and FTP


Franki,

this might sound like a stupid question, but i've found in the past i've
had to ask myself the same question. are you "sure" the package
openssh-server is installed? I've had the same situation a few times and
almost each time when I "thought" that the server installed it was only
the openssh-client that got installed. Which would give exactly the same
error that you're recieving now.

Also, you will want to check your /etc/hosts.deny file to make sure that
you don't have a line in there that looks like this:

ALL:ALL EXCEPT localhost:DENY

If that line is present then comment it out and you may find that
connection is then possible.

Mark

On Thu, 10 May 2001, Franki wrote:

> what are your security levels set at? do the other inetd or xinetd
services
> run? like pop3 or telnet
>
> what ports do you see if you portscan the box?
>
> do you have a firewall running and if so have you blocked the ftp and ssh
> ports???
>
> you need to find out what is closing the connection,,,  and since both ftp
> and ssh are affected, whats in your hosts.allow and hosts.deny?
>
> not much you can make suggestion wise without seeing the server, so I just
> ask questions...  :-)
>   -Original Message-
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Amy Eslinger
>   Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2001 3:08 AM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 and FTP
>
>
>   I ran a custom server install on Mandrake 7.2. I am unable to ftp to it
or
> access the server using a secure shell.
>
>   The sshd and inetd is running. The configuration files look accurate.
The
> ports are open.
>   When I attempt to ssh, I receive the error, "connection closed by
foreign
> host."
>
>   If anyone has any insight, I'd be grateful!! Thanks, Amy
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 and FTP

[Amy Eslinger]

Thanks Franki,

It was the hosts.deny file. Either the pmfirewall module that used to
install the firewall with or maybe it was the 'high' security setting I
chose during the install, that DENIED localhost.



- Original Message -
From: "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Rules Address for MDK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 1:28 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 and FTP


> what are your security levels set at? do the other inetd or xinetd
services
> run? like pop3 or telnet
>
> what ports do you see if you portscan the box?
>
> do you have a firewall running and if so have you blocked the ftp and ssh
> ports???
>
> you need to find out what is closing the connection,,,  and since both ftp
> and ssh are affected, whats in your hosts.allow and hosts.deny?
>
> not much you can make suggestion wise without seeing the server, so I just
> ask questions...  :-)
>   -Original Message-
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Amy Eslinger
>   Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2001 3:08 AM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 and FTP
>
>
>   I ran a custom server install on Mandrake 7.2. I am unable to ftp to it
or
> access the server using a secure shell.
>
>   The sshd and inetd is running. The configuration files look accurate.
The
> ports are open.
>   When I attempt to ssh, I receive the error, "connection closed by
foreign
> host."
>
>   If anyone has any insight, I'd be grateful!! Thanks, Amy
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2, Win 98, Win2000

[D. Hoyem]

Please post a copy of lilo.conf so that we can see
that.
--- Damodaran Raja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> I just installed three OS's on my computer[Drake
> 7.2,
> Win 98, 2000].  The problem is that I can't boot
> into
> Win 98 or Win 2000.  I'll give the details below and
> hopefully someone can tell me how to fix the
> problem.
> 
> DISK PARTITIONS  [20 GB Hard Drive]
> 
> 1. Device: hda1
>Type: Linux Sway
>Size: 125 MB
>Partition booted by default[for MS Dos boot, not
> for Lilo].
> 
> 2. Device: hda5
>Type: Linux native
>size: 2996 MB
>[Note: Root partition]
> 
> 3. Device: hda9
>Type: Linux Native
>size: 1882 MB
>[Note: for files and documents]
> 
> 4. Mount Point: /mnt/win_c
>Device: hda6
>Dos Drive Letter: C
>Type: Win 98 FAT 32
>Size: 8001 MB
>[Note: Win 98 is installed here]
> 
> 5. Mount Pt: /mnt/win_d
>device: hda7
>Dos Drive letter: D
>Type: Win 98 FAT 32
>Size 2001 MB
>[Note: space for files and documents]
> 
> 6. Mount pt: /mnt/win_e
>Device: hda 8
>Dos Drive letter: E
>Type: Win 98 FAT 32
>size: 4455 MB
>[NOte: Win 2000 is installed here] 
> 
> I use GRUB to do the dual boot.  But the options for
> Win 98 and Win 2000 don't work.  Maybe I pointed the
> link to the wrong partition.  FYI, I can boot into
> Linux just fine.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help you can provide,
> Raja
> 
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 - start mail server, etc..

[Michael D. Viron]

>>
>> Where do I configure those names on Mandrake if I want
>> "mailserver.foo.company.com" instead of "pop.foo.company.com", etc.?
>
>I cannot recall which file one must edit to add and alias to the system. You
>can do this in linuxconf, but I don't recall which file has that data in it.
>Can anyone else comment on this? I'm curious myself.
>
All,

There are a few pertinent files when attempting to set up a mail server
(especially one that you are trying to secure, all of which are under
/etc/mail (at least on Mandrake 7.x).

access - which defines which hosts / IPs have access to relay through your
mail server.  By default, relaying is denied on sendmail 8.9.x and later.

sendmail.mc, where you actually make changes to sendmail's configuration
instead of sendmail.cf

local-host-names - where you define what aliases for the machine you want
sendmail to respond to.

If you have some specific questions regarding what is involved in securing
an e-mail server, post it to the list, or reply to this e-mail address.

Michael

--
Michael Viron
Senior Systems & Administration Consultant
Web Spinners, University of West Florida

RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 ISDN

[Jose M. Sanchez]

nslookup is your friend.

Fire up nslookup.

Do you get a prompt back from nslookup?

No, then you haven't set up your resolver...

Yes, give it a few entries to try.

-JMS


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gez Keenan
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 ISDN


Configured with conf-isdn-account.
Get a connection but browser wont go anywhere.
Think its something to do with DNS and routing but blowed if I can figure it
out.
Anybody help?

Gez

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 & 'make' woes

[Alan Shoemaker]

Dave Wilson wrote:
> Okay, I did a fresh complete install of Mandrake 7.2 (using
> discs from the Complete box set).  My problem is when I
> extract a tarball and ./configure it, I get errors when I
> use the 'make' command.  I would think that Mandrake would
> have everything necessary to do this included on the
> install, so perhaps I am doing something wrong.  Much
> thanks in advance for any and all help.
>
> dave

Daveyou need to have done a 'developer' install to have 
all of the tools needed to compile source code but the 7.2 
Complete boxed set is a workstation only version and does not 
have an option for a 'developer' install.  You need the 7.2 
Deluxe Powerpack or a set of GPL CDs to be able to do a 
'developer' install.
-- 
Alan

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 & 'make' woes

[eryl]

I echo this.  Do   rpm -q make

If you get a return of  "make-3.79.1-5mdk" you have it installed.  If
you did a "workstation" install, it isn't, and you won't get that
return.  You can go back to your install disks and put it on your
machine, however.  There may be some more rpm's that you need before you
can to ./configure, but they are all on the install disks.

eryl

michael wrote:
> 
> Did you install "development" version?
> 
> Dave Wilson wrote:
> 
> > Okay, I did a fresh complete install of Mandrake 7.2 (using discs from the
> > Complete box set).  My problem is when I extract a tarball and ./configure
> > it, I get errors when I use the 'make' command.  I would think that Mandrake
> > would have everything necessary to do this included on the install, so
> > perhaps I am doing something wrong.  Much thanks in advance for any and all
> > help.
> >
> > dave
> > _
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 & 'make' woes

[michael]

Did you install "development" version?

Dave Wilson wrote:

> Okay, I did a fresh complete install of Mandrake 7.2 (using discs from the
> Complete box set).  My problem is when I extract a tarball and ./configure
> it, I get errors when I use the 'make' command.  I would think that Mandrake
> would have everything necessary to do this included on the install, so
> perhaps I am doing something wrong.  Much thanks in advance for any and all
> help.
>
> dave
> _
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 & 'make' woes

[Tom Brinkman]

On Monday 12 March 2001 11:10 pm, Dave Wilson wrote:
> Okay, I did a fresh complete install of Mandrake 7.2 (using discs from
> the Complete box set).  My problem is when I extract a tarball and
> ./configure it, I get errors when I use the 'make' command.  I would
> think that Mandrake would have everything necessary to do this included
> on the install, so perhaps I am doing something wrong.  Much thanks in
> advance for any and all help.
>

 http://mandrakeuser.org/basics/bsource.html

 That's the first of 3 pages that cover what you need and how to 
compile source.
-- 
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 he's won his 8th and  His Greatest Championship
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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 & 'make' woes

[Aldo Baez]

I was getting the same problem, its wierd because sometimes mandrake
installed the make command files or whatever they are and sometimes
they didn't.  What you need to do is go to the rpm installer packager thing
and look for make on your install cd, then install it.  It should work fine
under that.

Aldo





>
> Okay, I did a fresh complete install of Mandrake 7.2 (using discs
> from the
> Complete box set).  My problem is when I extract a tarball and
> ./configure
> it, I get errors when I use the 'make' command.  I would think
> that Mandrake
> would have everything necessary to do this included on the install, so
> perhaps I am doing something wrong.  Much thanks in advance for
> any and all
> help.
>
> dave
> _
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
>
>

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Netbeui

[Dave]

Trevor,

As you will find, TCP/IP can be used for both local and Internet traffic at 
the same time. Hope your Samba reading goes well, and good luck.

Dave

At 10:52 PM 3/11/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Dave,
> I thought since TCP/IP was being used for the internet connection on
>both PC's (with 2 different IP addresses and subnets) that I couldn't use
>TCP/IP to network them together too.
> I guess I need to do some more reading on what samba can do.  I went out
>and bought a book today so I'm going to give it a try.  Thanks.
>
> Trevor
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 8:52 AM
>Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Netbeui
>
>
> > Just out of curiosity, why don't you just use TCP/IP for all your network
> > needs? Running NetBEUI will slow both systems down, because it's a very
> > "chatty" protocol.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 01:00 PM 3/10/01 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > > I am trying to get netbeui installed on my LM 7.2 box and not
>having
> > >much luck.  I realize this is not the preferred method of networking 2
> > >computers (1 LM 1 WinME) together but both computers are using TCP/IP to
> > >connect to the internet via a cable modem (with 2 separate IP addresses
> > >via a router) and I would like the 2 to share files and printers.
> > > After alot of searching I found a company (ProCom) that has a
>netbeui
> > >kernel module and they sent me a .tgz file.  I unpacked it and followed
> > >the instructions to modify the makefile and when I run it I get tons of
> > >errors.  Evidently their default locations for the kernel source and
> > >samba are not the same as LM 7.2.
> > > I was wondering if anyone on the list has successfully installed
> > >netbeui and could offer me some tips.  Any help would be appreciated.
> > >Thanks.
> > >
> > > Trevor
> >
> > 0101 1010 0111 01101100 0110 01100111   01101001
> > 01110011   01100100 01100101 0111 01100100   01001110 0110
>01101110
> > 01100111   01101100 01101001 01110110 01100101   01100100 01101001
>01100111
> > 01101001 01110100 0111 01101100
> > (Go figure it out.)
> >
> >
> >

0101 1010 0111 01101100 0110 01100111   01101001 
01110011   01100100 01100101 0111 01100100   01001110 0110 01101110 
01100111   01101100 01101001 01110110 01100101   01100100 01101001 01100111 
01101001 01110100 0111 01101100
(Go figure it out.)

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Netbeui

[Trevor Reynolds]

Dave,
I thought since TCP/IP was being used for the internet connection on
both PC's (with 2 different IP addresses and subnets) that I couldn't use
TCP/IP to network them together too.
I guess I need to do some more reading on what samba can do.  I went out
and bought a book today so I'm going to give it a try.  Thanks.

Trevor

- Original Message -
From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Netbeui


> Just out of curiosity, why don't you just use TCP/IP for all your network
> needs? Running NetBEUI will slow both systems down, because it's a very
> "chatty" protocol.
>
> Dave
>
> At 01:00 PM 3/10/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> > I am trying to get netbeui installed on my LM 7.2 box and not
having
> >much luck.  I realize this is not the preferred method of networking 2
> >computers (1 LM 1 WinME) together but both computers are using TCP/IP to
> >connect to the internet via a cable modem (with 2 separate IP addresses
> >via a router) and I would like the 2 to share files and printers.
> > After alot of searching I found a company (ProCom) that has a
netbeui
> >kernel module and they sent me a .tgz file.  I unpacked it and followed
> >the instructions to modify the makefile and when I run it I get tons of
> >errors.  Evidently their default locations for the kernel source and
> >samba are not the same as LM 7.2.
> > I was wondering if anyone on the list has successfully installed
> >netbeui and could offer me some tips.  Any help would be appreciated.
> >Thanks.
> >
> > Trevor
>
> 0101 1010 0111 01101100 0110 01100111   01101001
> 01110011   01100100 01100101 0111 01100100   01001110 0110
01101110
> 01100111   01101100 01101001 01110110 01100101   01100100 01101001
01100111
> 01101001 01110100 0111 01101100
> (Go figure it out.)
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Netbeui

[Dave]

Just out of curiosity, why don't you just use TCP/IP for all your network 
needs? Running NetBEUI will slow both systems down, because it's a very 
"chatty" protocol.

Dave

At 01:00 PM 3/10/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
> I am trying to get netbeui installed on my LM 7.2 box and not having
>much luck.  I realize this is not the preferred method of networking 2
>computers (1 LM 1 WinME) together but both computers are using TCP/IP to
>connect to the internet via a cable modem (with 2 separate IP addresses
>via a router) and I would like the 2 to share files and printers.
> After alot of searching I found a company (ProCom) that has a netbeui
>kernel module and they sent me a .tgz file.  I unpacked it and followed
>the instructions to modify the makefile and when I run it I get tons of
>errors.  Evidently their default locations for the kernel source and
>samba are not the same as LM 7.2.
> I was wondering if anyone on the list has successfully installed
>netbeui and could offer me some tips.  Any help would be appreciated.
>Thanks.
>
> Trevor

0101 1010 0111 01101100 0110 01100111   01101001 
01110011   01100100 01100101 0111 01100100   01001110 0110 01101110 
01100111   01101100 01101001 01110110 01100101   01100100 01101001 01100111 
01101001 01110100 0111 01101100
(Go figure it out.)

RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 on Dell CPi-A laptop

[Darin]

Yeah.. I tried several different resolutions.. Even generic 640x480x16 color
VGA.. None of them gave a display.. Some would show the screen 4 times,
others were more difficult to read.. At any rate, I found the cure... There
is a line you can add to the options in XF86Config or XF86Config-4.  I
pasted a snippet from the XF86Config below.

The intern_disp and extern_disp options allow you to tell the chipset which
display you want to use.. This doesnt give you the flexibility of switching
on the fly like Windoze, but it does work very well.. This also lets you use
the external display with the docking station/port replicator.

FWIW, everything else is working fine.. I did have to set the serial port
speeds with setserial.. It was forcing the modems to connect at 33k..  Those
have been the only two hitches I've had with the entire laptop so far..

Darin -


===
# **
# Graphics device section
# **

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present
# Device configured by Xconfigurator:

Section "Device"
Identifier  "My Video Card"
VendorName  "Unknown"
BoardName   "Unknown"
#VideoRam4096
#Chipset"NM2160"
#Option "intern_disp"
 Option "extern_disp"
EndSection















-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Franki
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 1:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 on Dell CPi-A laptop


It must be something specific with how laptops send the signal out to the
external monitor

TFT and other notebook screens generally have low refresh rates compared to
Crt displays,, thats why I always try using generic laptop screen settings
when I need to get an old monitor working... (recently I had an old 14 inch
SVGA CRT that wouldn't handle anything but "generic 800x600 notebook" got no
idea why, but no other settings worked, and since that did, I didn't bother
trying to setup x by hand...)

I don't know if xfree suports multiple displays,, I had never though to try
it.

you don't mention what you mean by "messed up" a monitor trying to display a
refresh it can't handle has a specific look...

as does a monitor trying to display a res it can't handle...

try setting your notebook res lower, say 800x600 or lower, and then see if
the monitor can handle it..

then try using a lower refresh and try the same thing, keep going down till
it works, and then work your way back up till you find a res and refresh
that works on your ext monitor,, then you will just have to use drakeconf to
change monitors whenever you want to use your external monitor,, corse I
could be wrong, their could be a much easier answer...

rgds

Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darin
Sent: Tuesday, 20 February 2001 2:26 AM
To: Newbie
Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 on Dell CPi-A laptop


Hi,
   I'm trying to set up Mandrake 7.2 on a Dell Latitude CPi-A laptop.. The
installation went flawlessly, and Mandrake boots up fine..  I can even get a
really nice display when starting X, but only from the LCD display..  I
notice that when starting X, there is a message that mentions Internal LCD
display only.  When I try to use the function keys to switch to the external
display, it does the switch, but the external display is messed up.  Is
there a way to get either the External display, or both internal and
external to work at the same time?

The video chip is a NeoMagic 2200.  Everything else seems to be working just
fine. I can even use the PCMCIA modem to dial out and connect to the net..

Any help would be appreciated..

Thanks

Darin -

RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 on Dell CPi-A laptop

[Franki]

It must be something specific with how laptops send the signal out to the
external monitor

TFT and other notebook screens generally have low refresh rates compared to
Crt displays,, thats why I always try using generic laptop screen settings
when I need to get an old monitor working... (recently I had an old 14 inch
SVGA CRT that wouldn't handle anything but "generic 800x600 notebook" got no
idea why, but no other settings worked, and since that did, I didn't bother
trying to setup x by hand...)

I don't know if xfree suports multiple displays,, I had never though to try
it.

you don't mention what you mean by "messed up" a monitor trying to display a
refresh it can't handle has a specific look...

as does a monitor trying to display a res it can't handle...

try setting your notebook res lower, say 800x600 or lower, and then see if
the monitor can handle it..

then try using a lower refresh and try the same thing, keep going down till
it works, and then work your way back up till you find a res and refresh
that works on your ext monitor,, then you will just have to use drakeconf to
change monitors whenever you want to use your external monitor,, corse I
could be wrong, their could be a much easier answer...

rgds

Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darin
Sent: Tuesday, 20 February 2001 2:26 AM
To: Newbie
Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 on Dell CPi-A laptop


Hi,
   I'm trying to set up Mandrake 7.2 on a Dell Latitude CPi-A laptop.. The
installation went flawlessly, and Mandrake boots up fine..  I can even get a
really nice display when starting X, but only from the LCD display..  I
notice that when starting X, there is a message that mentions Internal LCD
display only.  When I try to use the function keys to switch to the external
display, it does the switch, but the external display is messed up.  Is
there a way to get either the External display, or both internal and
external to work at the same time?

The video chip is a NeoMagic 2200.  Everything else seems to be working just
fine. I can even use the PCMCIA modem to dial out and connect to the net..

Any help would be appreciated..

Thanks

Darin -

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 vs PartitionMagic version 5,0 ?

[Tafta Zani]

hi there,

send plain-text mail only (please don't get upset when somebody
warn you, just be pation ^_^).
(doesn't want to scare you but)If I'm not mistaken. I think you're in
trouble. Data loss is possible.
My friend and I have experienced such problem. First, everyting was
normal but later we got our HD unreadable.

1.Try to fix it by runing your HD as secondary or slave (asumming
   your OS is in the primary HD and having the Partition Magic installed
there).
   Run PM. In my case, PM detected the problem and solved it.
2.If that doesn't work, try running program such as Norton Utility ( also
   your HD as secondary or slave). This one will recover your files  in the
partition if you mess it up (it worked on my HD).
 3.still having the problem ?? look for a real HD expert to fix it (i'm juzt
a   newbie).

Before you do things listed above. Try to look for another reference.
I can do mistakes too. Please tell me if you find me wrong.

Tafta

- Original Message -
From: Michael Hagen
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 6:17 PM
Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 vs PartitionMagic version 5,0 ?


I can install 7.2 as second OS (/root, swap, /home partitions) ito 8GB of
free space on my primary drive (following Win 98 in first 8GB) and boot to
it no problem from rescue floppy.

But when I launch Partition Magic from Win, I get this error:

Disk 2(8056MB 1027c 255h 63s) appears to have partitions created using a
different drive geometry (1h 63s). This serious problem can lead to data
loss. No partition manipulations should be made to this disk using this
product or the operating system's products. You should back up the data on
this disk, delete all partitions,create new partitions under the new drive
geometry, and then restore your data using the backup.

Disk is a 40 GB IBM with a recent install-from-scratch of Win98 in first
8GB, 8GB Linux, 24GB free space
BootMagic likewise fails to recognize the second 8G as Linux.
Since this was a fresh Mandrake, I could and did reinstall.
Tried both Reiser and standard filesystems.PowerQuest likes neither.
Nothing under my control in install made any obvious reference to drive
geometry.

I'm sorely tempted to return to Ranish Partition Manager and LILO here.
Somebody please tell me that Partition Magic 5 just sucks and is the cause
of my problems?

Or is PartitionMagic telling me the truth and the Mandrake installer has
gone rogue, misreading my drive?

Thanks for any advice.

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 vs PartitionMagic version 5,0 ?

[Carroll Grigsby]

Michael:
First off, what really sucks is posting HTML messages. Some mail readers
(where the term "mail readers" includes both programs and people) don't
like it. The yellow background really pissed me off. TURN IT OFF.
It's been my experience that PM 6 doesn't have any problems with Linux,
although I seem to recall that the Partition Info that was part of PM 4
was not entirely happy. Since everything ran fine, I stopped worrying
about it. FWIW, my PM 6 manual says that it only supports Linux ext2 and
swap file systems -- not a word about Reiser.
Since my general rule is that there is less grief if I use MS utilities
for MS stuff, and Linux utilities for Linux, I have no experience with
Boot Manager. Lilo and grub have done just fine. Something comes to
mind, though: Until some time last year, Linux had to be located so that
the boot sector was located below cylinder 1024. That problem has been
resolved. Could it be that your version of Boot Manager isn't hip to the
change?
-- cmg

> Michael Hagen wrote:
> 
> I can install 7.2 as second OS (/root, swap, /home partitions) ito 8GB
> of free space on my primary drive (following Win 98 in first 8GB) and
> boot to it no problem from rescue floppy.
> 
> But when I launch Partition Magic from Win, I get this error:
> 
> Disk 2(8056MB 1027c 255h 63s) appears to have partitions created using
> a different drive geometry (1h 63s). This serious problem can lead to
> data loss. No partition manipulations should be made to this disk
> using this product or the operating system's products. You should back
> up the data on this disk, delete all partitions,create new partitions
> under the new drive geometry, and then restore your data using the
> backup.
> 
> Disk is a 40 GB IBM with a recent install-from-scratch of Win98 in
> first 8GB, 8GB Linux, 24GB free space
> BootMagic likewise fails to recognize the second 8G as Linux.
> Since this was a fresh Mandrake, I could and did reinstall.
> Tried both Reiser and standard filesystems.PowerQuest likes neither.
> Nothing under my control in install made any obvious reference to
> drive geometry.
> 
> I'm sorely tempted to return to Ranish Partition Manager and LILO
> here.
> Somebody please tell me that Partition Magic 5 just sucks and is the
> cause of my problems?
> 
> Or is PartitionMagic telling me the truth and the Mandrake installer
> has gone rogue, misreading my drive?
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
>

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 on IBM A20p

[Aaron Zuercher]

Hi,
I have a Thinpad A21p.  A slightly higher model.  Mandrake 7.2 is 
running fine.  Not a single problem.  I have video, sound, and modem all 
working. 

Aaron




mikael koh wrote:

> Hello all! 
> 
> I'm new to the linux world and new to this mailing
> list too. I wish to install mandrake 7.2 on my IBM
> A20p laptop. anyone has the same machine as mine and
> installed 7.2 ?? i wish to know any problems tt u hav
> encountered and any advice u may wanna give pertaining
> to optimizing mandrake 7.2 for A20p. 
> 
> thank you very much!!
> 
> mikael
> 
> __
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> 
> 
> 

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 on IBM A20p

[Dave Sherman]

Here I am, replying to my own message!

I just got my modem working this evening (about 15 minutes ago), with 
the free (as in beer) binary-only driver supplied by Lucent 
Technologies, which I downloaded from linmodems.org.

Dave

On Thursday 01 February 2001 17:50, you wrote:
> Well, I'm not running an A20, but I am running an IBM ThinkPad i1400,
> and Mandrake 7.2 performs better on it than any of several distros I
> have tried. It detected all of my hardware during the install,
> warning me that I had a Lucent Technologies 'winmodem' and suggested
> I go to linmodems.org for more information (LT winmodems are not
> supported, but there are beta-quality drivers available at
> linmodems.org). It also found my PCMCIA network card and got it
> working immediately.
>
> The only thing I had trouble with was the monitor. It detected my
> video card ok (NeoMagic 256AV), but the monitor itself I had to
> choose from a BIG list. Hint: if you don't know your monitor type,
> try the various IBM monitors listed until you find one that works. I
> initially tried the generic 1024x768 SVGA monitor, but the
> performance was *terrible*. I changed to an IBM monitor (don't
> remember which one, off-hand), and I noticed an immediate
> improvement.
>
> Good luck,
> Dave
>
> At 08:53 AM 02/01/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >Hello all!
> >
> >I'm new to the linux world and new to this mailing
> >list too. I wish to install mandrake 7.2 on my IBM
> >A20p laptop. anyone has the same machine as mine and
> >installed 7.2 ?? i wish to know any problems tt u hav
> >encountered and any advice u may wanna give pertaining
> >to optimizing mandrake 7.2 for A20p.
> >
> >thank you very much!!
> >
> >mikael
> >
> >__
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>
> Dave Sherman
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> viditur." (763) 569-9839

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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 crashes

[Charles A Edwards]

   Sorry if this was covered in an earlier post but 2 questions reguarding your sustem.

How was your Matrox card set-up during installation, what driver and which version of 
X?
Does your MOBO have onboard vid. and is it jumppered to disabled?

   The symptons/lockup you describe indicate a problem in the X system.
Just as a test try running your system at 600x800 60mhz and 16bit color to see if you 
still encounter the same system abnomalities.

   Charles  (-:  

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vic
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 crashes
> 
> 
> I am not sure but I *think* it has to do with the
> chipset on the SOYO SY-5EH5 motherboard,
> I have heard that those sony motherboards are weird,
> so it might be that something in the chipset is not
> allowing Linux to grab onto the hardware,
> I guess like the other guy said you could test out
> the thing running in runlevel 3 uhh, I can't remember 
> what he said for grub but in lilo boot type linux 3
> and it should get you into runlevel 3 which is text only.
> 
> I hope this has helped some.
> 
> On Tuesday 30 January 2001 08:57 pm, so spoke Jim Dawson:
> > I have installed Mandrake 7.2 on my second PC several times
> > over the past few weeks using various configurations and it
> > always crashes hard within a few minutes of use. After a
> > few minutes the vertical edges of windows become distorted
> > (slightly 'wavy') shortly after that the whole machine
> > hangs, requiring a hard reset. (No programs respond, CTRL-
> > ALT-BACKSPACE doesn't kill X, Oddly I *can* move the mouse
> > pointer but it doesn't do anything...) It makes *Windows*
> > look like a paragon of stability!
> >
> > I have installed Mandrake 7.2 using the same CDs on another
> > computer with similar hardware. It runs great on the other
> > computer.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I might try to
> > get this working?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Here's a quick rundown of the hardware:
> >  * SOYO SY-5EH5 motherboard
> >  * AMD K6/2 350MHz processor
> >  * 1x128MB 100ns SDRAM DIMM
> >  * EIDE CD-ROM (Secondary Master)
> >  * Sony CD-R (Secondary Slave)
> >  * Maxtor 15GB EIDE (Primary Master)
> >  * Matrox Mystique PCI 4MB video
> >  * Sony 200sx monitor
> >  * Kingston (DEC 21041 based) 10Mbps Ethernet card
> >  * Creative Labs Sound Blaster 16 Plug & Play
> >  * Seagate/Connor QIC-3020 TR3 floppy-based tape drive
> >  * Connor 2MB tape drive controller (floppy-based)
> >  * 2x USB ports (VIA chipset, on motherboard)
> >  * Epson Color Stylus 860 printer (hooked up via USB)
> >  * Standard Serial/Parallel ports.
> >  * Supra 33.6 external modem (COM1)
> >  * 1.44MB floppy
> >  * generic 104 key Keyboard
> >  * MS Intelimouse (wheel) ps/2 bus
> 
> 

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 crashes

[Vic]

I am not sure but I *think* it has to do with the
chipset on the SOYO SY-5EH5 motherboard,
I have heard that those sony motherboards are weird,
so it might be that something in the chipset is not
allowing Linux to grab onto the hardware,
I guess like the other guy said you could test out
the thing running in runlevel 3 uhh, I can't remember 
what he said for grub but in lilo boot type linux 3
and it should get you into runlevel 3 which is text only.

I hope this has helped some.

On Tuesday 30 January 2001 08:57 pm, so spoke Jim Dawson:
> I have installed Mandrake 7.2 on my second PC several times
> over the past few weeks using various configurations and it
> always crashes hard within a few minutes of use. After a
> few minutes the vertical edges of windows become distorted
> (slightly 'wavy') shortly after that the whole machine
> hangs, requiring a hard reset. (No programs respond, CTRL-
> ALT-BACKSPACE doesn't kill X, Oddly I *can* move the mouse
> pointer but it doesn't do anything...) It makes *Windows*
> look like a paragon of stability!
>
> I have installed Mandrake 7.2 using the same CDs on another
> computer with similar hardware. It runs great on the other
> computer.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I might try to
> get this working?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Here's a quick rundown of the hardware:
>  * SOYO SY-5EH5 motherboard
>  * AMD K6/2 350MHz processor
>  * 1x128MB 100ns SDRAM DIMM
>  * EIDE CD-ROM (Secondary Master)
>  * Sony CD-R (Secondary Slave)
>  * Maxtor 15GB EIDE (Primary Master)
>  * Matrox Mystique PCI 4MB video
>  * Sony 200sx monitor
>  * Kingston (DEC 21041 based) 10Mbps Ethernet card
>  * Creative Labs Sound Blaster 16 Plug & Play
>  * Seagate/Connor QIC-3020 TR3 floppy-based tape drive
>  * Connor 2MB tape drive controller (floppy-based)
>  * 2x USB ports (VIA chipset, on motherboard)
>  * Epson Color Stylus 860 printer (hooked up via USB)
>  * Standard Serial/Parallel ports.
>  * Supra 33.6 external modem (COM1)
>  * 1.44MB floppy
>  * generic 104 key Keyboard
>  * MS Intelimouse (wheel) ps/2 bus

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[hellmut]

Have you executed lilo every time you changed the config file? I used to forget
that again and again and again and...
But now it works just fine.


> Salman,
>
> I have exactly the same problem as you.  I have tried every combination of
> append=xxx and label=xxx, upper case M's and lower case m's all to no avail.
>
> However, if I press tab at bootup and type "linux mem=256m" it does work.
> It's a pain as you have to do it every time, but nice to know that you can
> access that extra memory after all.
>
> I dont understand why it works using this approach but it wont work if I
> specify it in lilo.conf.

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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Salman H Butt]

Well, that worked perfectly. Now, how could one set that up to be done
automatically? Any one have any ideas?

Thanks,
Salman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Allton Paul
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 11:35 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly


Salman,

I have exactly the same problem as you.  I have tried every combination of
append=xxx and label=xxx, upper case M's and lower case m's all to no avail.

However, if I press tab at bootup and type "linux mem=256m" it does work.
It's a pain as you have to do it every time, but nice to know that you can
access that extra memory after all.

I dont understand why it works using this approach but it wont work if I
specify it in lilo.conf.

> -Original Message-
> From: Salman H Butt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly
>
>
> ahh, i see now. but, getting back to the problem, why is it failing to
> detect the ram? it's fine in win2k. lilo.conf seems to be
> fine. no errors
> produced by 'lilo -v'. is it a hardware issue?
>
> thanks,
> salman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oliver L. Plaine
> Jr.
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly
>
>
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:19:42 -0600, Tom B wrote:
>
> >  Not to jump Olly, but I believe there's a clarification to be made.
> >Each "title" section in grub's menu.lst, or each "label" section in
> >lilo's lilo.conf, can have it's own and different 'append=' line. So
> >while there could be many 'append=' lines in the conf file,
> there should
> >only be one per section (title / label).
> 
> Sun, 28 Jan 2001  21:42:11
>
> Thanks Tom...I remembered the part about one append, but not  about
> "per section" .
>
> sometimes I have to learn things several times before I get it exact.
> 8-)
>
> Olly P
> Biloxi
>
>
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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Salman Hameed Butt]

good call. that worked perfectly. now if there was only a way to automate
it. any ideas?

salman

--

Salman,



I have exactly the same problem as you.  I have tried every combination of

append=xxx and label=xxx, upper case M's and lower case m's all to no
avail.



However, if I press tab at bootup and type "linux mem=256m" it does work.

It's a pain as you have to do it every time, but nice to know that you can

access that extra memory after all.



I dont understand why it works using this approach but it wont work if I

specify it in lilo.conf.



> -Original Message-

> From: Salman H Butt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:00 AM

> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

> > > ahh, i see now. but, getting back to the problem, why is it failing
to

> detect the ram? it's fine in win2k. lilo.conf seems to be 

> fine. no errors

> produced by 'lilo -v'. is it a hardware issue?

> > thanks,

> salman

> > -Original Message-

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oliver L. Plaine

> Jr.

> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:51 PM

> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

> > > On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:19:42 -0600, Tom B wrote:

> > > Not to jump Olly, but I believe there's a clarification to be made.

> >Each "title" section in grub's menu.lst, or each "label" section in

> >lilo's lilo.conf, can have it's own and different 'append=' line. So

> >while there could be many 'append=' lines in the conf file, 

> there should

> >only be one per section (title / label).

> 

> Sun, 28 Jan 2001  21:42:11

> > Thanks Tom...I remembered the part about one append, but not  about

> "per section" .

> > sometimes I have to learn things several times before I get it exact.

> 8-)

> > Olly P

> Biloxi

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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Salman H Butt]

salman

when exactly during boot-up do you hit that? when lilo asks you to hit enter
or tab to select a boot option?

thanks,
salman

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Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 11:35 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly


Salman,

I have exactly the same problem as you.  I have tried every combination of
append=xxx and label=xxx, upper case M's and lower case m's all to no avail.

However, if I press tab at bootup and type "linux mem=256m" it does work.
It's a pain as you have to do it every time, but nice to know that you can
access that extra memory after all.

I dont understand why it works using this approach but it wont work if I
specify it in lilo.conf.

> -Original Message-
> From: Salman H Butt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly
>
>
> ahh, i see now. but, getting back to the problem, why is it failing to
> detect the ram? it's fine in win2k. lilo.conf seems to be
> fine. no errors
> produced by 'lilo -v'. is it a hardware issue?
>
> thanks,
> salman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oliver L. Plaine
> Jr.
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly
>
>
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:19:42 -0600, Tom B wrote:
>
> >  Not to jump Olly, but I believe there's a clarification to be made.
> >Each "title" section in grub's menu.lst, or each "label" section in
> >lilo's lilo.conf, can have it's own and different 'append=' line. So
> >while there could be many 'append=' lines in the conf file,
> there should
> >only be one per section (title / label).
> 
> Sun, 28 Jan 2001  21:42:11
>
> Thanks Tom...I remembered the part about one append, but not  about
> "per section" .
>
> sometimes I have to learn things several times before I get it exact.
> 8-)
>
> Olly P
> Biloxi
>
>
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[angry]

SpeedMan wrote:

> On January 28, 2001 12:32 pm, you wrote:
>
>  Well, here is my linux.conf file:
>
>  boot=/dev/hda5
>  map=/boot/map
>  install=/boot/boot.b
>  vga=normal
>  default=linux
>  keytable=/boot/us.klt
>  lba32
>  prompt
>  timeout=50
>  message=/boot/message
>  image=/boot/vmlinuz
> label=linux
> root=/dev/hda5
> append=" hdd=ide-scsi"
> read-only
>  image=/boot/vmlinuz
> label=failsafe
> root=/dev/hda5
> append=" hdd=ide-scsi failsafe mem=256M"   read-only
>  other=/dev/fd0
> label=floppy
> unsafe
>
>  So where would I put "mem=128M"? In place of append=" hdd=ide-scsi" or
>  append=" hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"? and wouldn't changing those lines screw
>  with my harddrive? Thanks for the help. I REALLY appreciate it.
>
> Salman,
>
> Under default=linux add the line ...
>
> append="mem=128m"
>
> Regards,
>
> SpeedMan

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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Salman H Butt]

ahh, i see now. but, getting back to the problem, why is it failing to
detect the ram? it's fine in win2k. lilo.conf seems to be fine. no errors
produced by 'lilo -v'. is it a hardware issue?

thanks,
salman

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Jr.
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly


On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:19:42 -0600, Tom B wrote:

>  Not to jump Olly, but I believe there's a clarification to be made.
>Each "title" section in grub's menu.lst, or each "label" section in
>lilo's lilo.conf, can have it's own and different 'append=' line. So
>while there could be many 'append=' lines in the conf file, there should
>only be one per section (title / label).

Sun, 28 Jan 2001  21:42:11

Thanks Tom...I remembered the part about one append, but not  about
"per section" .

sometimes I have to learn things several times before I get it exact.
8-)

Olly P
Biloxi

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Oliver L. Plaine Jr.]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:19:42 -0600, Tom B wrote:

>  Not to jump Olly, but I believe there's a clarification to be made. 
>Each "title" section in grub's menu.lst, or each "label" section in 
>lilo's lilo.conf, can have it's own and different 'append=' line. So 
>while there could be many 'append=' lines in the conf file, there should
>only be one per section (title / label).

Sun, 28 Jan 2001  21:42:11

Thanks Tom...I remembered the part about one append, but not  about
"per section" .

sometimes I have to learn things several times before I get it exact.
8-)

Olly P
Biloxi

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Tom Brinkman]

On Sunday 28 January 2001 08:54 pm, Oliver L. Plaine Jr. wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:14:59 -0500, salman wrote:
> >i can only have one altogether? so are the other two screwing things
> > up?

> I do not profess to being an expert Salman, not ever having this
> problem...but from just reading of the fish flopping in this list..I
> have learned that Lilo can only have one append line and that line can
> have multiple information entries
>
>   There is always the possibility that I have learned it
> incorrectly however...in which case Mark or Tom should jump on me at
> this point?

  Not to jump Olly, but I believe there's a clarification to be made. 
Each "title" section in grub's menu.lst, or each "label" section in 
lilo's lilo.conf, can have it's own and different 'append=' line. So 
while there could be many 'append=' lines in the conf file, there should
only be one per section (title / label).

   For example, in the excerpt from my lilo.conf below, there's 4 
'append=' lines, but only one per section.  The line for my 'failsafe'
is one statement, but with multiple items in it.  I believe that's the 
source of Salman's confusion.
~`
other=/dev/hda1
label=dos
table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hdb6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=" hdd=ide-scsi"
vga=788
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux-nonfb
root=/dev/hdb6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=" hdd=ide-scsi"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hdb6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=" hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.0-11mdk
label=240-11
root=/dev/hdb6
read-only
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.0-11mdk.img
append=" hdd=ide-scsi"
vga=788
optional
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Oliver L. Plaine Jr.]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:14:59 -0500, you wrote:

>i can only have one altogether? so are the other two screwing things up?
>
>thanks,
>salman
-
Sun, 28 Jan 2001  20:48:08

I do not profess to being an expert Salman, not ever having this
problem...but from just reading of the fish flopping in this list..I
have learned that Lilo can only have one append line and that line can
have multiple information entries

There is always the possibility that I have learned it
incorrectly however...in which case Mark or Tom should jump on me at
this point?

Olly P
Biloxi

RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Salman H Butt]

i can only have one altogether? so are the other two screwing things up?

thanks,
salman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oliver L. Plaine
Jr.
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 7:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly


On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 18:32:14 -0500, you wrote:

>i tried putting the "mem=128m" under the 1st image=/boot/vmlinuz, which
>didn't help either. this is the lilo.conf produced from linuxconf>boot
>mode -- there, i set boot options to 'mem=128m', and it produced this file.
>let me know if you have any ideas.
>
>thanks,
>salman
---
Sun, 28 Jan 2001  18:06:04

Try it with a capital M Salman.   128M..secondly, you can only have
one append line...so put all the info in one append line.

Olly P
Biloxi

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Oliver L. Plaine Jr.]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 18:32:14 -0500, you wrote:

>i tried putting the "mem=128m" under the 1st image=/boot/vmlinuz, which
>didn't help either. this is the lilo.conf produced from linuxconf>boot
>mode -- there, i set boot options to 'mem=128m', and it produced this file.
>let me know if you have any ideas.
>
>thanks,
>salman
---
Sun, 28 Jan 2001  18:06:04

Try it with a capital M Salman.   128M..secondly, you can only have
one append line...so put all the info in one append line.

Olly P
Biloxi

RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Salman H Butt]

Here's my current lilo.conf

boot = /dev/hda5
timeout = 50
prompt
  message = /boot/message
  default = linux
  vga = normal
  append = "mem=128m"
  read-only
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
image = /boot/vmlinuz
  label = linux
  append = " hdd=ide-scsi"
  root = /dev/hda5
image = /boot/vmlinuz
  label = failsafe
  append = " hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"
  root = /dev/hda5
other = /dev/fd0
  label = floppy
  unsafe

i tried putting the "mem=128m" under the 1st image=/boot/vmlinuz, which
didn't help either. this is the lilo.conf produced from linuxconf>boot
mode -- there, i set boot options to 'mem=128m', and it produced this file.
let me know if you have any ideas.

thanks,
salman

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Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 6:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly


Yes, it puts lilo in verbode mode, I hoped it would maybe give an error
message...
Can you send me you /etc/lilo.conf file? I'd like to compare it with mine.
Cheers!



> i did that - no use. still reporting 64mb. and doesn't -v just put lilo in
> verbose mode?
>
> thanks,
> salman

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Tom Brinkman]

On Sunday 28 January 2001 03:57 pm, Salman H Butt wrote:
> ok, i did that and ran lilo and then rebooted. but it still reports
> 64mb

> > > So where would I put "mem=128M"? In place of append=" hdd=ide-scsi"
>
> append=" mem=127M hdd=ide-scsi"
 
  If you did write the change to mbr (ie, by running lilo), and it still 
doesn't see the ram  it's a hardware issue.  Try reseating the ram, 
and/or moving it around in different slots.  Past that, it's a big 
motherboard problem.  Check the board specs/docs, it could be that it 
won't address ram over 64mb.
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Romanator]

Salman H Butt wrote:
> 
> I did that, but on boot-up, Mandrake is still reporting 64MB, as is the KDE
> Control Center. What else could be the matter?
> 
> Take care,
> Salman
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of SpeedMan
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 1:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly
> 
> On January 28, 2001 12:32 pm, you wrote:
> 
> > Well, here is my linux.conf file:
> >
> > boot=/dev/hda5
> > map=/boot/map
> > install=/boot/boot.b
> > vga=normal
> > default=linux
> > keytable=/boot/us.klt
> > lba32
> > prompt
> > timeout=50
> > message=/boot/message
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz
> >   label=linux
> >   root=/dev/hda5
> >   append=" hdd=ide-scsi"
> >   read-only
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz
> >   label=failsafe
> >   root=/dev/hda5
> >   append=" mem=128M - failsafe"
> >   read-only
> > other=/dev/fd0
> >   label=floppy
> >   unsafe
> >
> > So where would I put "mem=128M"? In place of append=" hdd=ide-scsi" or
> > append=" hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"? and wouldn't changing those lines screw
> > with my harddrive? Thanks for the help. I REALLY appreciate it.
> 
> Salman,
> 
> Under default=linux add the line ...
> 
> append="mem=128m"
> 
> Regards,
> 
> SpeedMan

Try the following:

boot=/dev/hda5
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
image=/boot/vmlinuz
   label=linux
   root=/dev/hda5
   append=" hdd=ide-scsi"
   read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
   label=failsafe
   root=/dev/hda5
   append=" mem=128M-failsafe"
   read-only
other=/dev/fd0
   label=floppy
   unsafe


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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Salman H Butt]

i did that - no use. still reporting 64mb. and doesn't -v just put lilo in
verbose mode?

thanks,
salman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of hellmut
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 4:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly


You have to execute the command "lilo -v" on a console, you have to be root
to
do this.



> I did that, but on boot-up, Mandrake is still reporting 64MB, as is the
KDE
> Control Center. What else could be the matter?
>
> Take care,
> Salman

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[hellmut]

You have to execute the command "lilo -v" on a console, you have to be root to
do this.



> I did that, but on boot-up, Mandrake is still reporting 64MB, as is the KDE
> Control Center. What else could be the matter?
>
> Take care,
> Salman

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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Salman H Butt]

ok, i did that and ran lilo and then rebooted. but it still reports 64mb

thanks,
salman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Brinkman
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 3:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly


On Sunday 28 January 2001 01:13 pm, Salman H Butt wrote:
> I did that, but on boot-up, Mandrake is still reporting 64MB, as is the
> KDE Control Center. What else could be the matter?
>

> > append=" hdd=ide-scsi"

> > So where would I put "mem=128M"? In place of append=" hdd=ide-scsi"

append=" mem=127M hdd=ide-scsi"
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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Salman H Butt]

wait, which one is it? do i put it under default=linux or in
append="hdd=ide-scsi"?

thanks for the help.

take care,
salman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of civileme
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 3:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly


On Sunday 28 January 2001 20:13, you wrote:

I put the instructions in your message.  Do NOT try two appends.  GRUB will
regurgitate.

Civileme

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of SpeedMan
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 1:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly
>
> On January 28, 2001 12:32 pm, you wrote:
> > Well, here is my linux.conf file:
> >
> > boot=/dev/hda5
> > map=/boot/map
> > install=/boot/boot.b
> > vga=normal
> > default=linux
> > keytable=/boot/us.klt
> > lba32
> > prompt
> > timeout=50
> > message=/boot/message
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz
> > label=linux
> > root=/dev/hda5
> > append=" hdd=ide-scsi"
change to :
append="mem=128M hdd=ise-scsi"
> > read-only
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz
> > label=failsafe
> > root=/dev/hda5
> > append=" hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"
> > read-only
> > other=/dev/fd0
> > label=floppy
> > unsafe
> >
> > So where would I put "mem=128M"? In place of append=" hdd=ide-scsi" or
> > append=" hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"? and wouldn't changing those lines screw
> > with my harddrive? Thanks for the help. I REALLY appreciate it.
>
> Salman,
>
> Under default=linux add the line ...
>
> append="mem=128m"
>
>
> Regards,
>
> SpeedMan

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Tom Brinkman]

On Sunday 28 January 2001 01:13 pm, Salman H Butt wrote:
> I did that, but on boot-up, Mandrake is still reporting 64MB, as is the
> KDE Control Center. What else could be the matter?
>

> > append=" hdd=ide-scsi"

> > So where would I put "mem=128M"? In place of append=" hdd=ide-scsi"

append=" mem=127M hdd=ide-scsi"
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[civileme]

On Sunday 28 January 2001 20:13, you wrote:

I put the instructions in your message.  Do NOT try two appends.  GRUB will 
regurgitate.

Civileme

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of SpeedMan
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 1:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly
>
> On January 28, 2001 12:32 pm, you wrote:
> > Well, here is my linux.conf file:
> >
> > boot=/dev/hda5
> > map=/boot/map
> > install=/boot/boot.b
> > vga=normal
> > default=linux
> > keytable=/boot/us.klt
> > lba32
> > prompt
> > timeout=50
> > message=/boot/message
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz
> > label=linux
> > root=/dev/hda5
> > append=" hdd=ide-scsi"
change to :
append="mem=128M hdd=ise-scsi"
> > read-only
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz
> > label=failsafe
> > root=/dev/hda5
> > append=" hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"
> > read-only
> > other=/dev/fd0
> > label=floppy
> > unsafe
> >
> > So where would I put "mem=128M"? In place of append=" hdd=ide-scsi" or
> > append=" hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"? and wouldn't changing those lines screw
> > with my harddrive? Thanks for the help. I REALLY appreciate it.
>
> Salman,
>
> Under default=linux add the line ...
>
> append="mem=128m"
>
>
> Regards,
>
> SpeedMan

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Abiword version aborts ??

[poogle]

Suggest you try downloading the current version 7.12 from abisource.com, I've 
just looked at mine and it does include american.hash


On Sunday 28 January 2001 14:29, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just installed Mandrake 7.2 and I can't run Abiword.
>
> It aborts as follows:
>
>   Can't open /usr/share/abisuite/AbiSuite/dictionary/american.hash
>   Abort
>
> The opening picture of the prerelease appears and for a fraction of a
> second abiword seems to open a window, but then immediately it aborts.
>
> The hash file is not there and it is also not in the RPM package of version
> 0.7.11-4mdk. Is this a bug in the 7.2 distribution?
>
> Regards,
> Rob.

RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Salman H Butt]

I did that, but on boot-up, Mandrake is still reporting 64MB, as is the KDE
Control Center. What else could be the matter?

Take care,
Salman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of SpeedMan
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 1:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly


On January 28, 2001 12:32 pm, you wrote:

> Well, here is my linux.conf file:
>
> boot=/dev/hda5
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> vga=normal
> default=linux
> keytable=/boot/us.klt
> lba32
> prompt
> timeout=50
> message=/boot/message
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
>   label=linux
>   root=/dev/hda5
>   append=" hdd=ide-scsi"
>   read-only
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
>   label=failsafe
>   root=/dev/hda5
>   append=" hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"
>   read-only
> other=/dev/fd0
>   label=floppy
>   unsafe
>
> So where would I put "mem=128M"? In place of append=" hdd=ide-scsi" or
> append=" hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"? and wouldn't changing those lines screw
> with my harddrive? Thanks for the help. I REALLY appreciate it.


Salman,

Under default=linux add the line ...

append="mem=128m"


Regards,

SpeedMan

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[SpeedMan]

On January 28, 2001 12:32 pm, you wrote:

> Well, here is my linux.conf file:
>
> boot=/dev/hda5
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> vga=normal
> default=linux
> keytable=/boot/us.klt
> lba32
> prompt
> timeout=50
> message=/boot/message
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
>   label=linux
>   root=/dev/hda5
>   append=" hdd=ide-scsi"
>   read-only
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
>   label=failsafe
>   root=/dev/hda5
>   append=" hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"
>   read-only
> other=/dev/fd0
>   label=floppy
>   unsafe
>
> So where would I put "mem=128M"? In place of append=" hdd=ide-scsi" or
> append=" hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"? and wouldn't changing those lines screw
> with my harddrive? Thanks for the help. I REALLY appreciate it.


Salman,

Under default=linux add the line ...

append="mem=128m"


Regards,

SpeedMan

RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Salman H Butt]

Well, here is my linux.conf file:

boot=/dev/hda5
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda5
append=" hdd=ide-scsi"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda5
append=" hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"
read-only
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe

So where would I put "mem=128M"? In place of append=" hdd=ide-scsi" or
append=" hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"? and wouldn't changing those lines screw
with my harddrive? Thanks for the help. I REALLY appreciate it.

Take care,
Salman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Scottaline
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 7:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> Mandrake 7.2 has the wrong amount of RAM. During the install, it asked me
to
> put in how much I had, since it often makes an error detecting RAM. I put
> '128', and after reading through the list, I realized I should have put
'128
> MB'. Is there any way for me to fix this? Is this kept in a file
somewhere?
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Take care,
> Salman
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
===
Hi Salman,
If you use lilo to boot, try opening /etc/lilo.conf as "root"
Look for the line that has append=  [I might be empty, or there might be
something in there already]  If it's empty, try making it read
append="mem=128M"  (Use quotes just like that)  If it's not empty, add
what's betwee the quotes into the equation.  You can NOT make a second
append line, however (AFAIK)
HTH,
Mike
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Abiword version aborts ??

[Romanator]

"R. Lahaye" wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've just installed Mandrake 7.2 and I can't run Abiword.
> 
> It aborts as follows:
> 
>   Can't open /usr/share/abisuite/AbiSuite/dictionary/american.hash
>   Abort
> 
> The opening picture of the prerelease appears and for a fraction of a
> second abiword seems to open a window, but then immediately it aborts.
> 
> The hash file is not there and it is also not in the RPM package of version
> 0.7.11-4mdk. Is this a bug in the 7.2 distribution?
> 
> Regards,
> Rob.

Hi Rob,

Hmh.. we'll have to look into this one. I'm getting some symbol
conversion problems. It's working for me except for some text or symbol
conversion errors from .abw file to .txt? While viewing AbiWord 0.711, 
,in English, the * sign looks # sign in . The -- menus signs run into
each each other. Strange...

Did you check your permissions?

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 not detecting RAM correctly

[Michael Scottaline]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hey,
> 
> Mandrake 7.2 has the wrong amount of RAM. During the install, it asked me to
> put in how much I had, since it often makes an error detecting RAM. I put
> '128', and after reading through the list, I realized I should have put '128
> MB'. Is there any way for me to fix this? Is this kept in a file somewhere?
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Take care,
> Salman
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
===
Hi Salman,
If you use lilo to boot, try opening /etc/lilo.conf as "root"
Look for the line that has append=  [I might be empty, or there might be something 
in there already]  If it's empty, try making it read
append="mem=128M"  (Use quotes just like that)  If it's not empty, add what's betwee 
the quotes into the equation.  You can NOT make a second append line, however (AFAIK)
HTH,
Mike
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dreadful idolatry took place there."
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 installation problem

[David Johnson]

Thanks for the pointer.  Using Ctrl-Alt-F3 ... F5 I discovered that Mandrake
7.2 was having problems mounting the CD-RW.   (If anyone is interested in
the messages I can provide them.)

I Already have WinME installed so I bypassed this problem by copying the
mandrake CDs to
the Hard drive and used a floppy with the harddrive install image to install
Mandrake.

I am now happily configuring my system...

Thanks for your help.
David Johnson

- Original Message -
From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 installation problem


> On Tuesday 23 January 2001 00:52, you wrote:
> > I have a 1 Ghz Athlon, Asus A7v  motherboard, Plexwriter 8/4/32A CD-RW,
128
> > MB ram.
> >
> >
> > I downloaded the two Mandrake 7.2 iso files and validated the md5 sums.
> > I burned my own CD-RWs with Adaptec Easy CD Creator 4.  I created the
> > CD-RWs from the iso images.  Selecting Create CD & Disc-at-once options
(I
> > also tried Track-at Once).
> > The CD-RWs burned successfully.
> >
> > I rooted from the install CD-RW and after it got to the initializing
CDROM
> > point, I got a message
> > saying that the CDROM device did not seem to contain a Linux Mandrake
> > CDROM.
> >
> > Any Ideas about what is causing this message?
> >
> >
> Well, you most likely made it properly--use ctrl-alt-f3,4,5 to get the
> information from the other screens.  If you are plugged into the on-board
> promise controller, you may have to give some special instructions to the
> kernel.
>
> Civileme
>
>
> >
> >
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> > --
>



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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and usb zip drive

[Ozz]

On Tuesday 23 January 2001 12:17, you wrote:

> Hello,
> I am trying to get a usb zip drive to work under Mandrake 7.2.
> Usb storage and usb interface is loaded at boot. When I look at
> HardDrake devices under usb interfaces I see Intel 82801 AA Usb.
> The kernel module loading is usb-uhci.
>
> If I look at mount points I see cdrom,floppy,windows,and zip.
> If I try to access the zip drive I get an error message saying
> "Could not enter directory /mnt/zip"
>
> Is it posssible to use a usb zip under this kernel 2.2.17-21mdk?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>  Thank You,

Hi Dale.

As far as I'm aware, Mandrake 7.2 IS supposed to support these drives - that 
is the main reason I upgraded from 7.1.

However, I have exactly the same problem as you do, and as yet no-one has 
been able to help me...

This is almost the only thing that keeps me dual-booting with Windoze.  I 
need access to that drive.  

Once that is sorted, I just need to get my sound working, my USB webcam going 
and my scanner (which is a Canon BJC-80 with a scanner cartridge instead of 
the ink one) and I will be completely Windoze free!

Please let us know if you have any success.

Regards,
Ozz.

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 installation problem

[civileme]

On Tuesday 23 January 2001 00:52, you wrote:
> I have a 1 Ghz Athlon, Asus A7v  motherboard, Plexwriter 8/4/32A CD-RW, 128
> MB ram.
>
>
> I downloaded the two Mandrake 7.2 iso files and validated the md5 sums.
> I burned my own CD-RWs with Adaptec Easy CD Creator 4.  I created the
> CD-RWs from the iso images.  Selecting Create CD & Disc-at-once options (I
> also tried Track-at Once).
> The CD-RWs burned successfully.
>
> I rooted from the install CD-RW and after it got to the initializing CDROM
> point, I got a message
> saying that the CDROM device did not seem to contain a Linux Mandrake
> CDROM.
>
> Any Ideas about what is causing this message?
>
>
Well, you most likely made it properly--use ctrl-alt-f3,4,5 to get the 
information from the other screens.  If you are plugged into the on-board 
promise controller, you may have to give some special instructions to the 
kernel.

Civileme


>
>
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 installation problem

[Dennis Myers]

On Tuesday 23 January 2001 03:05 am, you wrote:
> I did 'create cd from CD image'.  Explorer shows lists of
> directories/files. The CD-RW does boot.
> I assume Mandrake can read the CD-RW or I would get a different error.
> I don't know what test is failing
> I downloaded an iso file from a different site and the same thing happened.
> How can I check that the CD-RW was written properly???
>
> Thanks for any help
> - Original Message -
> From: "bascule" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 6:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 installation problem
>
> > in windows what does explorer show as the contents of the cd's, iso files
>
> or
>
> > a list of directories and files?
> > i.e. did you 'create a cd from an image' or did you drag and drop the iso
> > files to the cd listing before burning?
> >
> > bascule
> >
> > > I downloaded the two Mandrake 7.2 iso files and validated the md5 sums.
> > > I burned my own CD-RWs with Adaptec Easy CD Creator 4.  I created the
>
> CD-RWs
>
> > > from the iso images.  Selecting Create CD & Disc-at-once options (I
> > > also tried Track-at Once).
> > > The CD-RWs burned successfully.
> > >
> > > I rooted[booted] from the install CD-RW and after it got to the
>
> initializing CDROM
>
> > > point, I got a message
> > > saying that the CDROM device did not seem to contain a Linux Mandrake
>
> CDROM.
>
> > > Any Ideas about what is causing this message?
>
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Pardon me for jumping in here, but did you try the install from the CDRW 
device or from a plain CDROM device.  CDROM devices are sometimes finiky 
about what they are reading. I had problems with one of my installs until I 
got the boxed set, pressed from the factory. Then the installation went fine, 
I did not have a CDRW on that computer, otherwise it might have worked. So, 
If you can run the install from the CDRW and it still won't find the image, 
it would seem that even though checksums are right, the image is not.

RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 installation problem

[Charles A Edwards]

If you can view a list of directories in Explorer then the CD was written
correctly.

Are you running the Mandrake installation from your CD-RW drive or from a
CD-ROM drive?
If you are using a CD-ROM drive it is possible, especially if it is an older
drive, that the drive can not read CD-RWs.

   Charles  (-:

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Johnson
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 10:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 installation problem
>
>
> I did 'create cd from CD image'.  Explorer shows lists of
> directories/files.
> The CD-RW does boot.
> I assume Mandrake can read the CD-RW or I would get a different error.
> I don't know what test is failing
> I downloaded an iso file from a different site and the same
> thing happened.
> How can I check that the CD-RW was written properly???
>
> Thanks for any help
> - Original Message -
> From: "bascule" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 6:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 installation problem
>
>
> > in windows what does explorer show as the contents of the
> cd's, iso files
> or
> > a list of directories and files?
> > i.e. did you 'create a cd from an image' or did you drag
> and drop the iso
> > files to the cd listing before burning?
> >
> > bascule
> > >
> > >
> > > I downloaded the two Mandrake 7.2 iso files and validated
> the md5 sums.
> > > I burned my own CD-RWs with Adaptec Easy CD Creator 4.  I
> created the
> CD-RWs
> > > from the iso images.  Selecting Create CD & Disc-at-once
> options (I also
> > > tried Track-at Once).
> > > The CD-RWs burned successfully.
> > >
> > > I rooted[booted] from the install CD-RW and after it got to the
> initializing CDROM
> > > point, I got a message
> > > saying that the CDROM device did not seem to contain a
> Linux Mandrake
> CDROM.
> > >
> > > Any Ideas about what is causing this message?
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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> $7.99/mo! --
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 installation problem

[David Johnson]

I did 'create cd from CD image'.  Explorer shows lists of directories/files.
The CD-RW does boot.
I assume Mandrake can read the CD-RW or I would get a different error.
I don't know what test is failing
I downloaded an iso file from a different site and the same thing happened.
How can I check that the CD-RW was written properly???

Thanks for any help
- Original Message -
From: "bascule" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 installation problem


> in windows what does explorer show as the contents of the cd's, iso files
or
> a list of directories and files?
> i.e. did you 'create a cd from an image' or did you drag and drop the iso
> files to the cd listing before burning?
>
> bascule
> >
> >
> > I downloaded the two Mandrake 7.2 iso files and validated the md5 sums.
> > I burned my own CD-RWs with Adaptec Easy CD Creator 4.  I created the
CD-RWs
> > from the iso images.  Selecting Create CD & Disc-at-once options (I also
> > tried Track-at Once).
> > The CD-RWs burned successfully.
> >
> > I rooted[booted] from the install CD-RW and after it got to the
initializing CDROM
> > point, I got a message
> > saying that the CDROM device did not seem to contain a Linux Mandrake
CDROM.
> >
> > Any Ideas about what is causing this message?
> >
>



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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 installation problem

[bascule]

in windows what does explorer show as the contents of the cd's, iso files or 
a list of directories and files?
i.e. did you 'create a cd from an image' or did you drag and drop the iso 
files to the cd listing before burning?

bascule
> 
> 
> I downloaded the two Mandrake 7.2 iso files and validated the md5 sums.
> I burned my own CD-RWs with Adaptec Easy CD Creator 4.  I created the CD-RWs
> from the iso images.  Selecting Create CD & Disc-at-once options (I also
> tried Track-at Once).
> The CD-RWs burned successfully.
> 
> I rooted from the install CD-RW and after it got to the initializing CDROM
> point, I got a message
> saying that the CDROM device did not seem to contain a Linux Mandrake CDROM.
> 
> Any Ideas about what is causing this message?
> 

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Downloadable Version...

[civileme]

On Friday 19 January 2001 04:02, you wrote:
> hey all,
> Is the kde 2.0 that comes with the downloadable version of mandrake a
> beta version? I can't seem to find the theme manager in it. Thanks. Chris


No it isn't beta.  And yes it has no theme manager--look for it in KDE2.1.

Civileme


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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Downloadable Version...

[Benjamin Sher]

Dear Chris:

The KDE 2.0 that comes with the downloadable version of LM7.2 is the
FINAL version. However, KDE 2.0 does NOT have a thememanager. That will
come with KDE 2.1 now available in beta 1.

Benjamin
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Downloadable Version...

[KompuKit]

I hope they add it alsoI really liked that feature

Digital Wokan wrote:
> 
> Nope, that's kde2 final.  And it seems like they did away with the
> centralized theme manager (it was originally a seperate add-on in kde
> 1.x).  I don't know why they did it, and I hope it reappears in 2.1
> before they finalize it.
> 
> > Chris Hall wrote:
> >
> > hey all,
> > Is the kde 2.0 that comes with the downloadable version of
> > mandrake a beta version? I can't seem to find the theme manager in it.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Chris
> 
> --
> Digital Wokan, Tribal Mage of the Electronics Age
> Guerilla Linux Warrior

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Downloadable Version...

[Digital Wokan]

Nope, that's kde2 final.  And it seems like they did away with the
centralized theme manager (it was originally a seperate add-on in kde
1.x).  I don't know why they did it, and I hope it reappears in 2.1
before they finalize it.

> Chris Hall wrote:
> 
> hey all,
> Is the kde 2.0 that comes with the downloadable version of
> mandrake a beta version? I can't seem to find the theme manager in it.
> Thanks.
> 
> Chris

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Downloadable Version...

[Dennis Myers]

On Friday 19 January 2001 03:02 am, you wrote:

> > hey all,
> Is the kde 2.0 that comes with the downloadable version of mandrake a
> beta version? I can't seem to find the theme manager in it. Thanks. Chris


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7.2 doesn't have a theme manager in it. KDE 2.1+ is supposedly going to add a 
theme manager. but for now you have to use a somewhat cumbersome download and 
install(compared to the old thememanager) procedure. Sorry, I'm waiting too.
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Downloadable Version...

[Michael O'Henly]

There isn't one. Look for it in the upcoming KDE 2.1.

M.

On Thursday 18 January 2001 19:02, you wrote:
> hey all,
> Is the kde 2.0 that comes with the downloadable version of mandrake a
> beta version? I can't seem to find the theme manager in it. Thanks. Chris


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Re: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 trouble

[Penndragon]

Hi Jelle
 
It would appear that those items simply hadn't 
installed. It's possible the install option you chose left them out. You might 
need to go for a custom install and manually choose them.
 
James

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jelle Twerda 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 10:05 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 
  trouble
  
  Hi,I have a some problems with linux mandrake 7.2. For example 
  when I click on drakconf onthe desktop nothing happens. Or when I try to 
  run Pingus, mandrakeupdate, rpmdrake,usbview, mixer and so on I have 
  tried several types of installations. From recommencedto expert from small 
  install to biggest install, always the same programs that don’t workWhat I 
  also get with every type of install is during bootup a lot of command not 
  foundmessages like this:/etc/aurora/rc: grep: command not 
  foundbooting aurora.../etc/rc.d/rc: egrep: command not 
  foundStarting cups:/etc/rc.d/rc: egrep: command not 
  foundStarting sound:/etc/rc.d/rc: egrep: command not 
  foundStarting usb:/etc/rc.d/rc: egrep: command not 
  foundStarting inet:And a lot of things like this. I think all 
  things that I choose to boot at startup Butmost get a green V But one gets 
  a red X. And when linux is quiting I get another 3 red X.Also I 
  get  this everytime at bootup/etc/rc.sysinit: grep: Command not 
  foundChecking root filesystem/dev/hda6 was not cleanly unmounted check 
  forcedThis takes about 1 minute and I don’t think this is supposed to 
  happen.My system is:Asus CUSL2 (Intel 815E chipset)Intel 
  Pentium 3 Coppermine 800 MHz (not overclocked) (100 x 8 )128 SDRAM 
  PC100Geforce 32 SDRSB Live! Player 10243com 3C905B-TX 
  PCILogitech Mouseman wheel USBLexmark 3200 printerLogitech 
  internet keyboard4x/4x/32x Philips CD-RW3,5inch floppy drive300W 
  powersupplyMaxtor 52049H4: 20 GB, 7200RPM, U100- 10 GB Windows- 5 
  GB extra for windows- 4,xx Linux native- 141 Linux swapI don’t 
  know what wrong and I CAN boot linux and it works accept some programs and I 
  likeit and I want it to completly work. I hope you can help me.Email: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 
  81660554Thanks!Jelle 
  Twerda

Re: [newbie] mandrake 7.2 trouble

[civileme]

On Monday 08 January 2001 13:05, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a some problems with linux mandrake 7.2. For example when I click on
> drakconf on the desktop nothing happens. Or when I try to run Pingus,
> mandrakeupdate, rpmdrake, usbview, mixer and so on I have tried several
> types of installations. From recommenced to expert from small install to
> biggest install, always the same programs that don't work What I also get
> with every type of install is during bootup a lot of command not found
> messages like this:
>
> /etc/aurora/rc: grep: command not found
> booting aurora...
>
> /etc/rc.d/rc: egrep: command not found
> Starting cups:
>
> /etc/rc.d/rc: egrep: command not found
> Starting sound:
>
> /etc/rc.d/rc: egrep: command not found
> Starting usb:
>
> /etc/rc.d/rc: egrep: command not found
> Starting inet:
>
> And a lot of things like this. I think all things that I choose to boot at
> startup But most get a green V But one gets a red X. And when linux is
> quiting I get another 3 red X.
>
> Also I get  this everytime at bootup
> /etc/rc.sysinit: grep: Command not found
> Checking root filesystem
> /dev/hda6 was not cleanly unmounted check forced
>
> This takes about 1 minute and I don't think this is supposed to happen.
>
> My system is:
> Asus CUSL2 (Intel 815E chipset)
> Intel Pentium 3 Coppermine 800 MHz (not overclocked) (100 x 8 )
> 128 SDRAM PC100
> Geforce 32 SDR
> SB Live! Player 1024
> 3com 3C905B-TX PCI
> Logitech Mouseman wheel USB
> Lexmark 3200 printer
> Logitech internet keyboard
> 4x/4x/32x Philips CD-RW
> 3,5inch floppy drive
> 300W powersupply
> Maxtor 52049H4: 20 GB, 7200RPM, U100
> - 10 GB Windows
> - 5 GB extra for windows
> - 4,xx Linux native
> - 141 Linux swap
>
> I don't know what wrong and I CAN boot linux and it works accept some
> programs and I like it and I want it to completly work. I hope you can help
> me.
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ: 81660554
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jelle Twerda

I would suggest reinstall and watch the screens given by ctrl-alt-f3, f4 and 
f5  Something is not installing correctly.

Our experience is that not all ATA/100 drives can really do ATA/100, so start 
the install with this

At the splash screen hit F1

type in

linux ide0=noautotune

and try that...  Likely the missing grep simply wasn't installed due to a 
disk write error, and perhaps a few other packages are missing, but a missing 
grep is a show-stopper.

Civileme

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Network Install

[Mark Weaver]

That is a truely scarey proposition.

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds

On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 Jason Jesso spake passionately saying:

> I tried doing I network install for Mandrake 7.2 and had all kinds of
> problems.
>
> When I installed 7.1 over the net I had no problems at all. Has anybody
> experienced this?
>
> Thanks
> Jason
>

RE: [RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx]

[mdw1982]

Heck yea...Diskdrake will do a real nice job of resizing the DOS partition
so you can make some Linux partitions. One thing you want to watch that
you don't do and that is to make the new Linux partitions behind an
extended DOS partition. This is a very bad thing to do and will result in
partition table corruption eventually bringing one or both systems down.

-- 
Mark
###
## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature
## Registered Linux User # 182496
##  
#


On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 Mark Lee spake passionately saying!

> Johnny,
>
> I would run the Linux install using the supplied boot disk and select Expert
> Mode when asked to configure the drive. Click on the Windows partition and,
> all being well, you should see a dialog box that gives you the current size
> of the partition and an option to resize. If this doesn't happen then you
> will definitely need Partition Magic.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Johnny Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 3:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx]
>
>
> I only have one partition that occupies the entire disk.  If I can't find a
> solution to this.  Partition Magic may be the only way out for a smooth
> installation.
>
>

Re: [RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx]

[Johnny Kwan]

I only have one partition that occupies the entire disk.  If I can't find a
solution to this.  Partition Magic may be the only way out for a smooth
installation.

Mark Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've never tried, but as it is basically a scaled-down version of PM it
> should. This may be the only option if ME occupies the entire HDD in FAT32.
> You just have to remember to leave enough room for installing apps and the
> ME swap file, which can be pretty big. You can gauge the size of the swap
> file by going to a DOS prompt CD to the Windows directory and do a DIR for
> either *.swp (old Win9x) or Pagefile.sys for Win2K type shells.
> 
> If you are familiar with FDISK and do not have one partition that occupies
> the entire disk you can select option 4 from the menu ("Display Partition
> Information") This will show you where Windows lives and how much space it
> is using. You can then create an extended DOS partition in the free space
> (most likely, this will only allow you to create 1 partition though)
> 
> The /mnt/mnt/ issue may occur because the Windows partition is referred to
> (I think) as /mnt/windows. Win4lnx could be trying to establish a mount
> point within that partition. There's a possibility that it is unable to
> write to the boot sector, but that's an (un)intelligent guess. Mandrake
> shouldn't have a problem with FAT32 partitions, however, as I have never
> used win4lnx this could be an issue. Other things that might affect it are
> antivirus software (that prevents the boot sector from being modified) or
> some type of hard drive overlay software like OnTrack disk manager.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Red [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 2:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx
> 
> 
> I'm not sure how much Johnny knows, but if he uses MS fdisk to create his
> partitions he's going to delete Windows, which I'm sure he wants to avoid.
> Does the Expert Mode allow you to resize fat16/32 partitions similar to
> Partition Magic?
> 
> As for his original issue, this line:
> > "ext2 formating of /mnt/mnt/windows/lnx4win/linuxsys.img fail".
> Looks a little strange to me, particularly /mnt/mnt/.  But I'm not overly
> familiar with win4lnx, so I could be wrong.
> 
> Joseph Red
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 12:11 PM
> Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx
> 
> 
> > Installing Linux separately will resolve this issue. You need to make
sure
> > that you have sufficient free space on the destination drive (I try to
> keep
> > around 1.5GB free) and make an unformatted partition there using FDISK.
If
> > you can, make an additional 125MB unformatted partition for the swap
file.
> >
> > Put the Linux boot disk in the floppy drive and Disc 1 in the CD-ROM then
> > restart your system. When you are asked how you would like to
> > install/partition your HDD, choose Expert Mode. Locate the drive and
> > partitions you created and choose to create an ext2 partition (you can
put
> > the mount point here). Expert Mode offers you the chance to resize
> > partitions (useful if you need to make room for a swap file).
> >
> > Mandrake should detect the presence of Windows and, when the install is
> > complete and you reboot, you will be presented with a boot menu that
> offers
> > Linux and Windows. In the case of NT/9x dual boot systems the boot menu
> will
> > list DOS as an option. This will get you to the standard boot menu
created
> > by the NT boot.ini file.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Johnny Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 10:08 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx
> >
> >
> > I have been trying to install Mandrake 7.2 to my PC which is running
> > WindowsMe.  Win4Lnx allows the user to install Mandrake 7.2 without
> > re-partition the HD.  Everything went smoothly until I hit the "file
> system
> > setup" where I have to choose the size for the root directory and swap
> file.
> >
> > After choosing the desire capacity for both options, I got an error
saying
> > that
> > "ext2 formating of /mnt/mnt/windows/lnx4win/linuxsys.img fail".
> >
> > If anyone have a similar experience before or know how to resolve this
> > problem, please help.
> >
> > ICQ# 1678616
> > Office # 972-506-3411
> > eFax   # 419-818-7262
> > Homepage: johnnykwan.web-page.net
> >
> > 
> > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
> >
> >
> 


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Re: [Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx]

[Johnny Kwan]

Joseph, you are correct.  I don't want to use fdisk because it will delete
windows.  I have used partition magic before, and I might give it a try. 
Installing Mandrake without creating a new partition is still my first
priority unless there is no other option.  I also only have the 1.5Gig
installation files downloaded to the HD and not have the resources to write to
a CD.  The error message is a little strange because the mounting point for
linuxsys.img is supposed to be /mnt/windows/lnx4win.  I know it's got to be
something simple but just couldn't figure it out.  Any more help is greatly
appreciated.  Thanks again.


> I'm not sure how much Johnny knows, but if he uses MS fdisk to create his
> partitions he's going to delete Windows, which I'm sure he wants to avoid.
> Does the Expert Mode allow you to resize fat16/32 partitions similar to
> Partition Magic?
> 
> As for his original issue, this line:
> > "ext2 formating of /mnt/mnt/windows/lnx4win/linuxsys.img fail".
> Looks a little strange to me, particularly /mnt/mnt/.  But I'm not overly
> familiar with win4lnx, so I could be wrong.
> 
> Joseph Red
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 12:11 PM
> Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx
> 
> 
> > Installing Linux separately will resolve this issue. You need to make
sure
> > that you have sufficient free space on the destination drive (I try to
> keep
> > around 1.5GB free) and make an unformatted partition there using FDISK.
If
> > you can, make an additional 125MB unformatted partition for the swap
file.
> >
> > Put the Linux boot disk in the floppy drive and Disc 1 in the CD-ROM then
> > restart your system. When you are asked how you would like to
> > install/partition your HDD, choose Expert Mode. Locate the drive and
> > partitions you created and choose to create an ext2 partition (you can
put
> > the mount point here). Expert Mode offers you the chance to resize
> > partitions (useful if you need to make room for a swap file).
> >
> > Mandrake should detect the presence of Windows and, when the install is
> > complete and you reboot, you will be presented with a boot menu that
> offers
> > Linux and Windows. In the case of NT/9x dual boot systems the boot menu
> will
> > list DOS as an option. This will get you to the standard boot menu
created
> > by the NT boot.ini file.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Johnny Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 10:08 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx
> >
> >
> > I have been trying to install Mandrake 7.2 to my PC which is running
> > WindowsMe.  Win4Lnx allows the user to install Mandrake 7.2 without
> > re-partition the HD.  Everything went smoothly until I hit the "file
> system
> > setup" where I have to choose the size for the root directory and swap
> file.
> >
> > After choosing the desire capacity for both options, I got an error
saying
> > that
> > "ext2 formating of /mnt/mnt/windows/lnx4win/linuxsys.img fail".
> >
> > If anyone have a similar experience before or know how to resolve this
> > problem, please help.
> >
> > ICQ# 1678616
> > Office # 972-506-3411
> > eFax   # 419-818-7262
> > Homepage: johnnykwan.web-page.net
> >
> > 
> > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
> >
> >
> 


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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx

[Mark Lee]

I've never tried, but as it is basically a scaled-down version of PM it
should. This may be the only option if ME occupies the entire HDD in FAT32.
You just have to remember to leave enough room for installing apps and the
ME swap file, which can be pretty big. You can gauge the size of the swap
file by going to a DOS prompt CD to the Windows directory and do a DIR for
either *.swp (old Win9x) or Pagefile.sys for Win2K type shells.

If you are familiar with FDISK and do not have one partition that occupies
the entire disk you can select option 4 from the menu ("Display Partition
Information") This will show you where Windows lives and how much space it
is using. You can then create an extended DOS partition in the free space
(most likely, this will only allow you to create 1 partition though)

The /mnt/mnt/ issue may occur because the Windows partition is referred to
(I think) as /mnt/windows. Win4lnx could be trying to establish a mount
point within that partition. There's a possibility that it is unable to
write to the boot sector, but that's an (un)intelligent guess. Mandrake
shouldn't have a problem with FAT32 partitions, however, as I have never
used win4lnx this could be an issue. Other things that might affect it are
antivirus software (that prevents the boot sector from being modified) or
some type of hard drive overlay software like OnTrack disk manager.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Red [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 2:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx


I'm not sure how much Johnny knows, but if he uses MS fdisk to create his
partitions he's going to delete Windows, which I'm sure he wants to avoid.
Does the Expert Mode allow you to resize fat16/32 partitions similar to
Partition Magic?

As for his original issue, this line:
> "ext2 formating of /mnt/mnt/windows/lnx4win/linuxsys.img fail".
Looks a little strange to me, particularly /mnt/mnt/.  But I'm not overly
familiar with win4lnx, so I could be wrong.

Joseph Red
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: "Mark Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 12:11 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx


> Installing Linux separately will resolve this issue. You need to make sure
> that you have sufficient free space on the destination drive (I try to
keep
> around 1.5GB free) and make an unformatted partition there using FDISK. If
> you can, make an additional 125MB unformatted partition for the swap file.
>
> Put the Linux boot disk in the floppy drive and Disc 1 in the CD-ROM then
> restart your system. When you are asked how you would like to
> install/partition your HDD, choose Expert Mode. Locate the drive and
> partitions you created and choose to create an ext2 partition (you can put
> the mount point here). Expert Mode offers you the chance to resize
> partitions (useful if you need to make room for a swap file).
>
> Mandrake should detect the presence of Windows and, when the install is
> complete and you reboot, you will be presented with a boot menu that
offers
> Linux and Windows. In the case of NT/9x dual boot systems the boot menu
will
> list DOS as an option. This will get you to the standard boot menu created
> by the NT boot.ini file.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Johnny Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 10:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx
>
>
> I have been trying to install Mandrake 7.2 to my PC which is running
> WindowsMe.  Win4Lnx allows the user to install Mandrake 7.2 without
> re-partition the HD.  Everything went smoothly until I hit the "file
system
> setup" where I have to choose the size for the root directory and swap
file.
>
> After choosing the desire capacity for both options, I got an error saying
> that
> "ext2 formating of /mnt/mnt/windows/lnx4win/linuxsys.img fail".
>
> If anyone have a similar experience before or know how to resolve this
> problem, please help.
>
> ICQ# 1678616
> Office # 972-506-3411
> eFax   # 419-818-7262
> Homepage: johnnykwan.web-page.net
>
> 
> Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
>
>

RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx

[Mark Lee]

Installing Linux separately will resolve this issue. You need to make sure
that you have sufficient free space on the destination drive (I try to keep
around 1.5GB free) and make an unformatted partition there using FDISK. If
you can, make an additional 125MB unformatted partition for the swap file.

Put the Linux boot disk in the floppy drive and Disc 1 in the CD-ROM then
restart your system. When you are asked how you would like to
install/partition your HDD, choose Expert Mode. Locate the drive and
partitions you created and choose to create an ext2 partition (you can put
the mount point here). Expert Mode offers you the chance to resize
partitions (useful if you need to make room for a swap file).

Mandrake should detect the presence of Windows and, when the install is
complete and you reboot, you will be presented with a boot menu that offers
Linux and Windows. In the case of NT/9x dual boot systems the boot menu will
list DOS as an option. This will get you to the standard boot menu created
by the NT boot.ini file.

Hope this helps,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Johnny Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 10:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx


I have been trying to install Mandrake 7.2 to my PC which is running
WindowsMe.  Win4Lnx allows the user to install Mandrake 7.2 without
re-partition the HD.  Everything went smoothly until I hit the "file system
setup" where I have to choose the size for the root directory and swap file.

After choosing the desire capacity for both options, I got an error saying
that 
"ext2 formating of /mnt/mnt/windows/lnx4win/linuxsys.img fail".

If anyone have a similar experience before or know how to resolve this
problem, please help.

ICQ# 1678616
Office # 972-506-3411
eFax   # 419-818-7262
Homepage: johnnykwan.web-page.net


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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx

[Joseph Red]

I'm not sure how much Johnny knows, but if he uses MS fdisk to create his
partitions he's going to delete Windows, which I'm sure he wants to avoid.
Does the Expert Mode allow you to resize fat16/32 partitions similar to
Partition Magic?

As for his original issue, this line:
> "ext2 formating of /mnt/mnt/windows/lnx4win/linuxsys.img fail".
Looks a little strange to me, particularly /mnt/mnt/.  But I'm not overly
familiar with win4lnx, so I could be wrong.

Joseph Red
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: "Mark Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 12:11 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx


> Installing Linux separately will resolve this issue. You need to make sure
> that you have sufficient free space on the destination drive (I try to
keep
> around 1.5GB free) and make an unformatted partition there using FDISK. If
> you can, make an additional 125MB unformatted partition for the swap file.
>
> Put the Linux boot disk in the floppy drive and Disc 1 in the CD-ROM then
> restart your system. When you are asked how you would like to
> install/partition your HDD, choose Expert Mode. Locate the drive and
> partitions you created and choose to create an ext2 partition (you can put
> the mount point here). Expert Mode offers you the chance to resize
> partitions (useful if you need to make room for a swap file).
>
> Mandrake should detect the presence of Windows and, when the install is
> complete and you reboot, you will be presented with a boot menu that
offers
> Linux and Windows. In the case of NT/9x dual boot systems the boot menu
will
> list DOS as an option. This will get you to the standard boot menu created
> by the NT boot.ini file.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Johnny Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 10:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx
>
>
> I have been trying to install Mandrake 7.2 to my PC which is running
> WindowsMe.  Win4Lnx allows the user to install Mandrake 7.2 without
> re-partition the HD.  Everything went smoothly until I hit the "file
system
> setup" where I have to choose the size for the root directory and swap
file.
>
> After choosing the desire capacity for both options, I got an error saying
> that
> "ext2 formating of /mnt/mnt/windows/lnx4win/linuxsys.img fail".
>
> If anyone have a similar experience before or know how to resolve this
> problem, please help.
>
> ICQ# 1678616
> Office # 972-506-3411
> eFax   # 419-818-7262
> Homepage: johnnykwan.web-page.net
>
> 
> Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
>
>

RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx

[Charles A Edwards]

Because Win4Linx requires direct access to DOS and this is blocked and
hidden in Win ME
you can not install it.
The only resolutions to this require registry changes which can adversly
effect Win ME and are not advised.
Your safest and best bet would be to resize your Win partition and to then
install 7.2 in its own partition and to forget about Win4Lnx.

   Charles  (-:

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Johnny Kwan
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 1:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx


I have been trying to install Mandrake 7.2 to my PC which is running
WindowsMe.  Win4Lnx allows the user to install Mandrake 7.2 without
re-partition the HD.  Everything went smoothly until I hit the "file system
setup" where I have to choose the size for the root directory and swap file.
After choosing the desire capacity for both options, I got an error saying
that
"ext2 formating of /mnt/mnt/windows/lnx4win/linuxsys.img fail".

If anyone have a similar experience before or know how to resolve this
problem, please help.

ICQ# 1678616
Office # 972-506-3411
eFax   # 419-818-7262
Homepage: johnnykwan.web-page.net


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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx

[Kelly, Christopher]

Just install linux seperately. It is better anyway.

Chris Kelly
Registered Linux user 185775


-Original Message-
From: Johnny Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 1:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Win4Lnx


I have been trying to install Mandrake 7.2 to my PC which is running
WindowsMe.  Win4Lnx allows the user to install Mandrake 7.2 without
re-partition the HD.  Everything went smoothly until I hit the "file system
setup" where I have to choose the size for the root directory and swap file.

After choosing the desire capacity for both options, I got an error saying
that 
"ext2 formating of /mnt/mnt/windows/lnx4win/linuxsys.img fail".

If anyone have a similar experience before or know how to resolve this
problem, please help.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Sounblaster Live!

[cenobite]

Can't change DMA in a SB Live ... it is a PCI, PnP device .. so it is at the
mercy of the BIOS.

On Thu, 07 Dec 2000, you wrote:
> euh.. Where can I change those DMA values?
> 
> "Richard F. Galaz" wrote:
> > 
> > I had a similar problem with another machine that had an older sound
> > blaster card.  HardDrake did show the correct card, but I got no
> > sound.  What I did was changed the DMA values.  After doing so, the sound
> > worked great!
> > 
> > I don't know if this would apply to SB Live, but it might be worth a shot.
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > At 11:02 PM 12/6/2000 -0600, you wrote:
> > >I just installed mandrake 7.2, my first experience with linux, but it
> > >seems the sound is not working.
> > >HardDrake is showing the correct card: Creative Labs SB Live!
> > >Anyone else has/had this problem? and a solution for it?
> > >Thanks,
> > >Philippe
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Re: [Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Sounblaster Live!]

[cenobite]

That woudl be a good suggestion if it weren;t for the fact that SB Live is a
PCI card, hence it is ONLY PnP.
I had the same problem, and found that in Linux the SB Live card and USB use
the same IRQ. That problem did not occur in Windows or when I switched back to
Redhat ... 
so .. the one thing I can suggest is to move the SB Live to a different slot to
see if ot loads at a different IRQ,
If that doesn't get it ... I dunno what to say other than start screaming at
the dev guys ...  

On Tue, 13 Jan 2037, you wrote:
> Phillippe,
> 
> Try to go into your CMOS and disable PNP. That could be the culprit.
> Just a suggestion.
> 
> Cheers
> --Al
> 
> Frank Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I use a Soundblaster Live Value, and had no problems. Mandrake 7.2 found
> and configured it, no problem. Beats the heck out of me as to what
> happened. I would try another install.
>   Frank
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 12:39 AM 12/7/00 -0600, you wrote:
> >For some reason, a lot of people have problems with SB Live! cards in
> >linux, and it's lots of weird, different stuff.  If no one here can give
> >you a good fix, I would suggest http://opensource.creative.com as a good
> >place to start looking for a solution.  You can search their mailing
> >list/read the documentation/download new drivers there.
> >
> >
> >Cody
> >
> >
> >Philippe wrote:
> >> 
> >> I just installed mandrake 7.2, my first experience with linux, but it
> >> seems the sound is not working.
> >> HardDrake is showing the correct card: Creative Labs SB Live!
> >> Anyone else has/had this problem? and a solution for it?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Philippe
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Sounblaster Live!]

[Altoine Barker]

Phillippe,

Try to go into your CMOS and disable PNP. That could be the culprit.
Just a suggestion.

Cheers
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Frank Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I use a Soundblaster Live Value, and had no problems. Mandrake 7.2 found
and configured it, no problem. Beats the heck out of me as to what
happened. I would try another install.
  Frank




At 12:39 AM 12/7/00 -0600, you wrote:
>For some reason, a lot of people have problems with SB Live! cards in
>linux, and it's lots of weird, different stuff.  If no one here can give
>you a good fix, I would suggest http://opensource.creative.com as a good
>place to start looking for a solution.  You can search their mailing
>list/read the documentation/download new drivers there.
>
>
>Cody
>
>
>Philippe wrote:
>> 
>> I just installed mandrake 7.2, my first experience with linux, but it
>> seems the sound is not working.
>> HardDrake is showing the correct card: Creative Labs SB Live!
>> Anyone else has/had this problem? and a solution for it?
>> Thanks,
>> Philippe
>
>
>



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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Sounblaster Live!

[Philippe]

euh.. Where can I change those DMA values?

"Richard F. Galaz" wrote:
> 
> I had a similar problem with another machine that had an older sound
> blaster card.  HardDrake did show the correct card, but I got no
> sound.  What I did was changed the DMA values.  After doing so, the sound
> worked great!
> 
> I don't know if this would apply to SB Live, but it might be worth a shot.
> 
> Richard
> 
> At 11:02 PM 12/6/2000 -0600, you wrote:
> >I just installed mandrake 7.2, my first experience with linux, but it
> >seems the sound is not working.
> >HardDrake is showing the correct card: Creative Labs SB Live!
> >Anyone else has/had this problem? and a solution for it?
> >Thanks,
> >Philippe

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Sounblaster Live!

[Richard F. Galaz]

I had a similar problem with another machine that had an older sound 
blaster card.  HardDrake did show the correct card, but I got no 
sound.  What I did was changed the DMA values.  After doing so, the sound 
worked great!

I don't know if this would apply to SB Live, but it might be worth a shot.

Richard

At 11:02 PM 12/6/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>I just installed mandrake 7.2, my first experience with linux, but it
>seems the sound is not working.
>HardDrake is showing the correct card: Creative Labs SB Live!
>Anyone else has/had this problem? and a solution for it?
>Thanks,
>Philippe

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Sounblaster Live!

[hellmut]

Hum... it didn't here... it insisted on activating the onboard soundchip
and Linux refused to start completely after this, it hung while loading
the soundmodule.



> Philippe wrote:
>
> > I just installed mandrake 7.2, my first experience with linux, but it
> > seems the sound is not working.
> > HardDrake is showing the correct card: Creative Labs SB Live!
> > Anyone else has/had this problem? and a solution for it?
> > Thanks,
> > Philippe
>
> Try dropping to a console and typing sndconfig as root. It worked for
> me.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Sounblaster Live!

[hellmut]

Hi Philippe

I wrecked my Soundblaster PCI 128 and bought a Soundblaster Live! Player
1024, Harddrake plays the sample fine, but when I try to take over the
settings I get an error message... I worked on it for about a week but
didn't find a solution. So I bought a Soundblaster PCI 128 again.
If you find a solution, please drop me a line!
Good luck!


> I just installed mandrake 7.2, my first experience with linux, but it

> seems the sound is not working.
> HardDrake is showing the correct card: Creative Labs SB Live!
> Anyone else has/had this problem? and a solution for it?
> Thanks,
> Philippe

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Sounblaster Live!

[Philomena]

Same here - 7.2 was the first mandrake release that found and correctly 
configured my SBLive ! Value out of the box. Do you have no sound at all ? 
Have you tried wavs and mp3s ?
philomena

At 03:10 AM 12/7/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>I use a Soundblaster Live Value, and had no problems. Mandrake 7.2 found
>and configured it, no problem. Beats the heck out of me as to what
>happened. I would try another install.
>   Frank
>
>
>
>
>At 12:39 AM 12/7/00 -0600, you wrote:
> >For some reason, a lot of people have problems with SB Live! cards in
> >linux, and it's lots of weird, different stuff.  If no one here can give
> >you a good fix, I would suggest http://opensource.creative.com as a good
> >place to start looking for a solution.  You can search their mailing
> >list/read the documentation/download new drivers there.
> >
> >
> >Cody
> >
> >
> >Philippe wrote:
> >>
> >> I just installed mandrake 7.2, my first experience with linux, but it
> >> seems the sound is not working.
> >> HardDrake is showing the correct card: Creative Labs SB Live!
> >> Anyone else has/had this problem? and a solution for it?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Philippe
> >
> >
> >

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Sounblaster Live!

[Frank Morris]

I use a Soundblaster Live Value, and had no problems. Mandrake 7.2 found
and configured it, no problem. Beats the heck out of me as to what
happened. I would try another install.
  Frank




At 12:39 AM 12/7/00 -0600, you wrote:
>For some reason, a lot of people have problems with SB Live! cards in
>linux, and it's lots of weird, different stuff.  If no one here can give
>you a good fix, I would suggest http://opensource.creative.com as a good
>place to start looking for a solution.  You can search their mailing
>list/read the documentation/download new drivers there.
>
>
>Cody
>
>
>Philippe wrote:
>> 
>> I just installed mandrake 7.2, my first experience with linux, but it
>> seems the sound is not working.
>> HardDrake is showing the correct card: Creative Labs SB Live!
>> Anyone else has/had this problem? and a solution for it?
>> Thanks,
>> Philippe
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Sounblaster Live!

[Shayne Schecht]

As  had posted before .. the reason that it is doing that (depends on your 
compuiter of course) from what I found is that there is a resource conflict 
with the USB bus. In my system both sit at 9 and that renders it mostly 
worthless ...

Meaning I will be going back to Redhat. I do not have this trouble in 
Windows or in Redhat .. so ...back I go ...

Anyhow, cheers and good luck

ceno

At 11:02 PM 12/6/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>I just installed mandrake 7.2, my first experience with linux, but it
>seems the sound is not working.
>HardDrake is showing the correct card: Creative Labs SB Live!
>Anyone else has/had this problem? and a solution for it?
>Thanks,
>Philippe


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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 and Sounblaster Live!

[Cody Powell]

For some reason, a lot of people have problems with SB Live! cards in
linux, and it's lots of weird, different stuff.  If no one here can give
you a good fix, I would suggest http://opensource.creative.com as a good
place to start looking for a solution.  You can search their mailing
list/read the documentation/download new drivers there.


Cody


Philippe wrote:
> 
> I just installed mandrake 7.2, my first experience with linux, but it
> seems the sound is not working.
> HardDrake is showing the correct card: Creative Labs SB Live!
> Anyone else has/had this problem? and a solution for it?
> Thanks,
> Philippe

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Error

[Saravut Teepprasan]

> > during startup I got the message usb_control/bluk_msg:timeout
> > what should I do?
>
> I have no USB either .

I have USB mouse, printer, Hand Spring Visor, Joy Stick

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Error

[Yahoo]

Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Error


> during startup I got the message usb_control/bluk_msg:timeout
> what should I do?

I have no USB either .

Nopadol



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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 on a Dell Laptop...

[Paul R]

Hi.  I also have a Dell laptop (Inspiron) with the Xircom Cardbus 
Ethernet + Modem.  I haven't had many problems with linux.  I'm assuming 
you've got a DSL or Cable connection if you want it to pick up the IP on 
startup.  This I believe is a quirk with the Xircom cardbus, it work 
"fine" with Linux,  but is not completely compatable.  What I have to do 
with mine is run "ppoe -start" for DSL or "dhcpcd start" for cable after 
I start up.  You might be able to fix this, but so far, this has been 
working for me. 

Peak Mail wrote:

> I'm having several problems with Mandrake on my laptop.
> I have a Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 100 + Modem card and since I've installed Mandrake 
>7.2 I can't get an ip address when booting into Linux. I had Red Hat 6.2 and it 
>worked fine then... Any thoughts?
> Also, when shutting down Linux it's not unmounting my harddrive. Any thoughts on 
>this one?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Roger
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Locks up when installing.

[Mr S Ganesan]

Sirs,
I also tried to load MKL7.2 on a Fujitsu HDD of 4.3 GB using a boot
floppy made for that purpose. After initially searching for my CDROM
drive it said that no hard disk is found on the system. 
I tried with many utilities to detect the hard disk and none of them
could detect it. A similar problem with Seagate Drive was solved
easily. I think there are problems with the Fujitsu Drives afterall. I
have lost that 4.3 drive and am intending to buy  a sea gate hdd of 18
GB capacity.On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Carroll Grigsby wrote:

> Denis:
> Could you expand on how you arrived at your conclusion? Is there a problem
> with some or all WD drives and LM7.2? Does it extend to other hard drives? I
> thought that they were all pretty much the same. While I don't have a WD
> disk, I have been having problems getting a stable installation of LM7.2 on
> my Fujitsu 15.3 drive -- gonna make another try tonight -- and I wonder if
> I've missed something.
> Regards,
> cmg
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Denis HAVLIK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 6:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Locks up when installing.
> 
> 
> > Probably your WD drive. Compile a kernel for your machine using 7.0
> > install, dump it on floppy made with "blank.img", and you'll be fine.
> >
> > cu
> > Denis
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Bill wrote:
> >
> > :~>I've tried installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 twice now, and it seems to
> lock up
> > :~>everytime right after it detects my hard drives and cd-rom's.  It just
> sits
> > :~>there at a flashing prompt after detecting them.  I've even waited for
> 15
> > :~>minutes to see if it will continue.  7.0 will install fine.  I have an
> AMD
> > :~>Athlon 500 Mhz on an FIC SD-11 board.  2 western digital HD's 17Gb and
> > :~>30Gb, a 4x4x24 R/RW and a 10x DVD-Rom.  It does the same thing if I
> choose
> > :~>the lnx4win install.  Anyone know what might be happening and what I
> can
> > :~>try to get around it?
> > :~>
> > :~>Thanks,
> > :~>Bill
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 on a Dell Laptop...

[Romanator]

Whoah Dave,

Can you increase your font size, we can't read your questions?

Roman

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Locks up when installing.

[Carroll Grigsby]

Denis:
Could you expand on how you arrived at your conclusion? Is there a problem
with some or all WD drives and LM7.2? Does it extend to other hard drives? I
thought that they were all pretty much the same. While I don't have a WD
disk, I have been having problems getting a stable installation of LM7.2 on
my Fujitsu 15.3 drive -- gonna make another try tonight -- and I wonder if
I've missed something.
Regards,
cmg


- Original Message -
From: "Denis HAVLIK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Locks up when installing.


> Probably your WD drive. Compile a kernel for your machine using 7.0
> install, dump it on floppy made with "blank.img", and you'll be fine.
>
> cu
> Denis
>
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Bill wrote:
>
> :~>I've tried installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 twice now, and it seems to
lock up
> :~>everytime right after it detects my hard drives and cd-rom's.  It just
sits
> :~>there at a flashing prompt after detecting them.  I've even waited for
15
> :~>minutes to see if it will continue.  7.0 will install fine.  I have an
AMD
> :~>Athlon 500 Mhz on an FIC SD-11 board.  2 western digital HD's 17Gb and
> :~>30Gb, a 4x4x24 R/RW and a 10x DVD-Rom.  It does the same thing if I
choose
> :~>the lnx4win install.  Anyone know what might be happening and what I
can
> :~>try to get around it?
> :~>
> :~>Thanks,
> :~>Bill

RE:[newbie] Mandrake 7.2 on a Dell Laptop...

[Dave Peat]

Is it hanging on the floppy drive?  I installed Mandrake 
on a DELL Laptop also and even though I never had the floppy drive in the 
machine it automagically mounted it during startup.  Then it would hang 
trying to unmount it.  If this is the case, edit the /etc/fstab and comment 
out the line that starts with /mnt/floppy...
Good luck!
Dave
Registered Linux User #184784>>> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/04/00 02:37PM >>>I'm having several 
problems with Mandrake on my laptop.I have a Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 100 + 
Modem card and since I've installed Mandrake 7.2 I can't get an ip address when 
booting into Linux. I had Red Hat 6.2 and it worked fine then... Any 
thoughts?Also, when shutting down Linux it's not unmounting my harddrive. 
Any thoughts on this one?Thanks in 
advance,Roger

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Locks up when installing.

[Denis HAVLIK]

Probably your WD drive. Compile a kernel for your machine using 7.0
install, dump it on floppy made with "blank.img", and you'll be fine.

cu
Denis

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Bill wrote:

:~>I've tried installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 twice now, and it seems to lock up 
:~>everytime right after it detects my hard drives and cd-rom's.  It just sits 
:~>there at a flashing prompt after detecting them.  I've even waited for 15 
:~>minutes to see if it will continue.  7.0 will install fine.  I have an AMD 
:~>Athlon 500 Mhz on an FIC SD-11 board.  2 western digital HD's 17Gb and 
:~>30Gb, a 4x4x24 R/RW and a 10x DVD-Rom.  It does the same thing if I choose 
:~>the lnx4win install.  Anyone know what might be happening and what I can 
:~>try to get around it?
:~>
:~>Thanks,
:~>Bill
:~>
:~>
:~>

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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 ISO's not right size...

[Helsby, James]

Try running an md5 checksum on the iso image. Compare it to the md5 that is
listed where you downloaded the image. Most likely, you lost a few bits
during ftp-ing. Also, you might have downloaded it with ASCI, and not with
binary. This WILL cause the problem.

Cheers,
James.

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To: Mandrake Newbie List
Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 ISO's not right size...

Hi LIst,
I was wondering about something. This morning when I attempted to burn a
few CD's with the Mandrake 7.2 ISO's that I downloaded over the weekend I
got a very strange error message back from the software. It told me that
the length of the file was not a multiple of the sectors on the CDROM. I'm
not sure what this means apart from maybe the file is the right size it's
supposed to be. Could someone shed some light on this for me?

I was using a Windows utility to do the CD's here at work. WE've done
other distros with this same utility before, so I know that it
works. RedHat 7.0, Mandrake 7.1...

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 ISO's not right size...

[Dave DeGear]

   I've downloaded and burned quite a few ISO files.  I always like to check 
the md5sum for the file and make sure that it is correct.  Normally I do this 
under Linux but I also found an md5sum utility for Windows.  Just type "md5sum 
mandrake7-2.iso" and see what you get.  I don't remember where I got the md5sum 
for Windows but it was included with a utility package that I had downloaded.  
Let me know if you can't find it and I'll do a quick search.

  ...Dave

Quoting Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi LIst,
> I was wondering about something. This morning when I attempted to burn a
> few CD's with the Mandrake 7.2 ISO's that I downloaded over the weekend
> I got a very strange error message back from the software. It told me that
> the length of the file was not a multiple of the sectors on the CDROM.
> I'm not sure what this means apart from maybe the file is the right size
> it's supposed to be. Could someone shed some light on this for me? 
> 
> I was using a Windows utility to do the CD's here at work. WE've done
> other distros with this same utility before, so I know that it
> works. RedHat 7.0, Mandrake 7.1...