Re: [newbie] 2nd Hard Drive
Yes, he's right. In my own case I have a Western Digital /66 drive alone on the first controller so it will work in /66 mode [which it does without modification on the 2.2.14 kernel of Mandrake 7.0]. Windows98 and Linux-Mandrake share this drive (hda). The secondary motherboard IDE controller has a second hard drive (as master it is hdc) and a CD ROM as slave. These two were put together because they operate at the same bus speed; I have Caldera and Stormix on hdc and boot to them from floppy. Since they are different flavors of Linux, they seem to have different startup requirements (mappings, etc.), and I haven't figured out how to boot them from a unified LILO yet. -Gary- In a message dated 6/30/2000 10:07:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << t will see the drive as hdb. If I remember correctly the way linux does IDE drives is by chain. So the master and seconday drives on the primary controller are identified as hda hdb while he master and secondary drives on the second controler are hdc and hdd.Again Ithas beena while since I payed attention to that. :) To install just run setup from within win98 and it will do the rest. You'll just put the linux partitions on the new secondary drive and then use LILO or Grub to boot win98 or Linux. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 6/30/2000 at 5:49 AM Jason Angus scribbled: >Got a question for all of you Linux Experts out there. >I am buying a new Hard Drive this weekend, I want to >have Windows 98 on the master drive and Linux on the >slave. I want to know how to address installing >Linux in that environment and how will Linux see that >second disk \hda2? > >Thanks, >Jason > >>
Re: [newbie] 2nd Hard Drive
Let me clarify my earlier posting. 1st (Primary) IDE controller drive jumpered as master = hda drive jumpered as slave = hdb 2nd (secondary) IDE controller drive jumpered as master = hdc drive jumpered as slave = hdd Drive detection is a function of the motherboard CMOS, enable the position that you lhave installed the new drive two (write down any configuration information for your original drive for safe keeping); setting "auto" generally works better than entering the new drives information in the hard drive information area of CMOS (if your motherboard is new enough and supports this). Master/slave is a function of jumpering the hard drive, not of the CMOS. /66 operation has certain requirements for physical connection and motherboard support if it is to operate. DO NOT use an overlay (EZdrive, et.al.) unless your motherboard will not support the full capacity of the hard drive by itself. Adding a new hard drive to certain machines (Compaq, Packard Bell,..) can be a problem, but "imaging" the drive will copy hidden partitions and may be a sufficient solution. Try it the regular way first, but maintain your original hard drive intact. If you run into problems booting, blow the partitions on the new drive and "image" from the original. -Gary- In a message dated 6/30/2000 11:20:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Jason Angus wrote: > > Got a question for all of you Linux Experts out there. > I am buying a new Hard Drive this weekend, I want to > have Windows 98 on the master drive and Linux on the > slave. I want to know how to address installing > Linux in that environment and how will Linux see that > second disk \hda2? > >>
Re: [newbie] 2nd Hard Drive
On 30 Jun 00, at 5:49, Jason Angus wrote: > slave. I want to know how to address installing > Linux in that environment and how will Linux see that > second disk \hda2? Linux will recognise this new hdd as "hdb". hda2 will mean the second partition on primary hdd. There wil be no probs, go ahead, buy the disk and install. Happy L'xing Sthitaprajna | (at)mailandnews(dot)com
Re: [newbie] 2nd Hard Drive
Jason Angus wrote: > > Got a question for all of you Linux Experts out there. > I am buying a new Hard Drive this weekend, I want to > have Windows 98 on the master drive and Linux on the > slave. I want to know how to address installing > Linux in that environment and how will Linux see that > second disk \hda2? > > Thanks, > Jason > With FDISK set-up your 2d HD = hdb as slave. See your BIOS that a slave will be available.(I think so) Then make partitions with it as fallows: / +- 600MB = primary /usr = big one +- 3G = logical /usr/local = to maintain your own progs. +- 800 MB = logical. /home = depend about the nbr of users = logical. /boot = +- 30MB (to maintain different kernels) = primary And a swap partition = 2xyour RAM = great max 256MB. /usr/local and /home are important because when a new install is necessary they must no reformatted and you preserve your data. Resumed: 2 primary's and 1 LINUX extended (83) divided with /usr, /home, /usr/local. Then by the install, setup your partitions as above with diskdruid. I recommand to do the install in text mode = custom. To do that, in dos or windoooz, get rawwrite from your CD, run it and select txt_boot.img to save it on your floppy. Then continue with this floppy to install. Another recommandation: Select EVEYTHING (if there is enough room= +- 1.3G) After that you can desinstall later the packages who's are not necessary for you. This method prevents several pbs in the next future. Warning: I think the new packages don't need /boot be installed before the 1024st cylinder. If this occurs, make room on the 1st HD (windoooz) and install there your /boot as hdaX (x depends about the partitions who's reside on the first HD. Normaly windooz take only 1 primary partition at all. In this case the totaly HD (1st) is used by windooz. To make room if necessary, several steps must be taken without pbs, but ask me how to do exactly BEFORE. Eric
Re: [newbie] 2nd Hard Drive
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, you wrote: > Got a question for all of you Linux Experts out there. > I am buying a new Hard Drive this weekend, I want to > have Windows 98 on the master drive and Linux on the > slave. I want to know how to address installing > Linux in that environment and how will Linux see that > second disk \hda2? > > Thanks, > Jason While I recommend IBM or Quantum HDD's, it's also wise to use HDD's from the same manufacturer when they're on the same IDE. A feww brands in somewhat rare situations fight with each other. That said, I've got an IBM and a WD on ide0 ;) This is because I believe WD drives are very good, but WD is gettin out of the desktop HDD business... I wouldn't buy one now, a lot of what they're sellin now are just re-badged IBM's. First drive is hda, second drive will be hdb. On any drive primary partitions are number 1,2,3,4, and extended partitions are 5,6,7,8... Your proposed setup is just what I run. I have an IBM 13.6 gig all one partition with Windoze on it (hda1). Slave drive is a WD 8.4 gig basically split 5 for linux and 3 for fat32. This is because linux can use fat32 space just as easily as ext2, so I use some fat32 space so both OS's can use it. I also use a lot of space on my Windoze drive (hda1) to store/use Linux files, and files both OS's can use (eg, .jpg, .mp3, etc) Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hdb1 * 118144553+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hdb219 646 50444105 Extended /dev/hdb3 647 1027 3060382+ c Win95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/hdb51923 40131 83 Linux /dev/hdb624 646 5004216 83 Linux As you can see above (from fdisk -l), hdb1 is my swap (140mb). hdb2 contains hdb5 (/boot) and hdb6 (/, everything else linux). hdb3 is the fat32 space (I use it as a staging area for burning CD's). If this is confusing, this is how 'dmesg' displays it Partition check: hda: hda1 hdb: hdb1 hdb2 < hdb5 hdb6 > hdb3 If you're installing with 7.0 or 7.1, 'diskdrake' will take care of all this for you, all you need to do is choose how many partitions and what size for each. For new users I'd recommend a 120 to 150 mb /swap, a small /boot (20mb), and put all the rest in '/' You might wanna read thru the installation section on http://www.mandrakeuser.org/ for a better explaination of all this -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] 2nd Hard Drive
It will see the drive as hdb. If I remember correctly the way linux does IDE drives is by chain. So the master and seconday drives on the primary controller are identified as hda hdb while he master and secondary drives on the second controler are hdc and hdd.Again Ithas beena while since I payed attention to that. :) To install just run setup from within win98 and it will do the rest. You'll just put the linux partitions on the new secondary drive and then use LILO or Grub to boot win98 or Linux. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 6/30/2000 at 5:49 AM Jason Angus scribbled: >Got a question for all of you Linux Experts out there. >I am buying a new Hard Drive this weekend, I want to >have Windows 98 on the master drive and Linux on the >slave. I want to know how to address installing >Linux in that environment and how will Linux see that >second disk \hda2? > >Thanks, >Jason > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! >http://mail.yahoo.com/
[newbie] 2nd Hard Drive
Got a question for all of you Linux Experts out there. I am buying a new Hard Drive this weekend, I want to have Windows 98 on the master drive and Linux on the slave. I want to know how to address installing Linux in that environment and how will Linux see that second disk \hda2? Thanks, Jason __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
