Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
On Sunday 19 October 2003 01:20 am, Sharrea Day wrote: > On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 04:35, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > Keep an eye on that link below. When you see downloaders drop > > off to just a few, and there's still enough 'connected complete' > > people, then it'd probly be OK to abandon BT then. > > > >I've kept mine up since getting the iso's last Wednesday. I've > > got upload limited to 50% of my connections capability. I can > > hardly tell BT is still runnin, while doin other stuff with the > > connection. IOW, I've still got 100% down, and the 50% up I have > > left over just means it takes a second longer to send an email ;) > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Just another comment: Over 4,400 people have gotten the > > > complete iso's, but only 318 are currently still online to upload > > > them to others. That's not very nice. Seems a lot of people got > > > theirs and then selfishly disconnected. The torrent idea depends > > > on people staying online specially after they're d/l is > > > complete. http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969/ > > I've just finished downloading the torrent ISOs with my satellite internet > connection. I only _download_ via satellite but uploading is still via > dialup modem. > > If I leave my torrent running for others will my measly 3 kbps help or > hinder the torrent network? Not sure what to do so any advice will be much > appreciated. > > Sharrea every little bit helps, one user is not necessarily using only your upload but possibly several. Let it go for as long as you feel comfortable. I am letting mine go till at least Monday night. If lots of folks still downloading I will leave it up. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 04:35, Tom Brinkman wrote: > Keep an eye on that link below. When you see downloaders drop > off to just a few, and there's still enough 'connected complete' > people, then it'd probly be OK to abandon BT then. > >I've kept mine up since getting the iso's last Wednesday. I've > got upload limited to 50% of my connections capability. I can > hardly tell BT is still runnin, while doin other stuff with the > connection. IOW, I've still got 100% down, and the 50% up I have > left over just means it takes a second longer to send an email ;) > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Just another comment: Over 4,400 people have gotten the > > complete iso's, but only 318 are currently still online to upload > > them to others. That's not very nice. Seems a lot of people got > > theirs and then selfishly disconnected. The torrent idea depends > > on people staying online specially after they're d/l is > > complete. http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969/ I've just finished downloading the torrent ISOs with my satellite internet connection. I only _download_ via satellite but uploading is still via dialup modem. If I leave my torrent running for others will my measly 3 kbps help or hinder the torrent network? Not sure what to do so any advice will be much appreciated. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
The only way I could get bittorrent to work was find Java client (asus) and run it at work on a xp box. It took a long time to start but finished up and I have let it keep running for day's. Last I looked I had 70+ people connected and up loading. I throttle it down during the day and open it up night's and weekends. Roly On Friday 17 October 2003 06:56 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Thursday October 16 2003 11:10 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > > > As I started off with, this bittorBS is new to me, never > > > been a fan of p2p anyhow. There's a growin consensus of docs, > > > FAQ's, an smart BT people tho. Use the list archives, cooker, > > > expert, an newbie, Club links, plus Google for people smarter > > > than me. > > > > So I have finally given up, I will wait till the durn thing is on > > the regular mirrors. I never was able to connect to a tracker and > > found nothing to help or even mention my problem on the mail > > lists or forums. Not a big deal, I have 9.2 cooker running on > > another machine, I don't know how to make a set of disks from > > that, or I would to upgrade the other two machines. But they all > > run without a problem so why am I in such a hurry to have the > > latest and greatest? Call me "he who could not track down a > > tracker" : ) -- > >When BT froze (not BT's fault), I rebooted to change some bios > settings for the ram. I've since learned why BT wouldn't start up > again after I rebooted. My connection is dynamic, and my IP had > changed when I reconnected. > > You need to d/l a new mytorrent-.torrent file every time > your IP changes. Otherwise you'll get that 'can't connect to > tracker' error. Somehow I missed that instruction, but luckily > d/l'd a new torrent file on a hunch ;) > > AFAIK, to make your own CD's you need to d/l the entire 9.2 tree > and use 'mkcd' to create CD's from it, specifying size (650, 700 > mb). You'll need to look for and study any docs you can find. I've > never done it. Probly be easier to make a floppy image and do a > ftp install. Tho I've never done that either ;) > >Just another comment: Over 4,400 people have gotten the complete > iso's, but only 318 are currently still online to upload them to > others. That's not very nice. Seems a lot of people got theirs and > then selfishly disconnected. The torrent idea depends on people > staying online specially after they're d/l is complete. > http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969/ -- "MicroSoft - The company that made the internet unsafe! Linux Counter #241069 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
On Friday 17 October 2003 04:08 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Friday 17 October 2003 10:15 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: > > I stayed on at least 24 hours after mine finished. I suppose I > > could fire it back up again, but what should we class as a > > reasonable time to keep it up? > > I left mine up until I uploaded 2x more than I downloaded. I > thought that was fair. how can you tell how much you've uploaded? I've left mine running since the 14th but with the bandwidth choked off. thanks, -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
On Friday 17 October 2003 10:15 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: > I stayed on at least 24 hours after mine finished. I suppose I could > fire it back up again, but what should we class as a reasonable time to > keep it up? I left mine up until I uploaded 2x more than I downloaded. I thought that was fair. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
On Friday October 17 2003 09:18 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: > We stayed up for 24hrs but it was slowing down my office > connection to the point where I had to shut it off this morning. > How do I turn it back on for uploads over the weekend? > > Lee Edit... /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.py and change defaults = [ ('max_uploads', None, 2, ^ this was a 4 .and limit upload. ('max_upload_rate', None, 6, 'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'), I used 6 since my normal connection upload is only 12 to 13kB/s. So use 50% of your upstream speed. Maybe even less if you need to retain more upstream for your own use. I also limited max_uploads since I can only provide 6kB/s upload. If you can spare more than 10 or 12kB/s, then I'd leave it on the default 4. The changes will be effective after you re-start BT. I'm usin the GUI, just clicking on the mytorrent-.torrent file in a file manager restarts BT. For the weekend you could just leave your BT unlimited. If you don't know your upstream speed, test here http://www.broadbandreports.com/stest Up speed will be in kilobits, divide by 8 to get kBytes/s. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
On Friday October 17 2003 09:15 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: > I stayed on at least 24 hours after mine finished. I suppose I > could fire it back up again, but what should we class as a > reasonable time to keep it up? > > Tony. Keep an eye on that link below. When you see downloaders drop off to just a few, and there's still enough 'connected complete' people, then it'd probly be OK to abandon BT then. I've kept mine up since getting the iso's last Wednesday. I've got upload limited to 50% of my connections capability. I can hardly tell BT is still runnin, while doin other stuff with the connection. IOW, I've still got 100% down, and the 50% up I have left over just means it takes a second longer to send an email ;) > -Original Message- > From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Just another comment: Over 4,400 people have gotten the > complete iso's, but only 318 are currently still online to upload > them to others. That's not very nice. Seems a lot of people got > theirs and then selfishly disconnected. The torrent idea depends > on people staying online specially after they're d/l is > complete. http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969/ -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:56:22 -0500 Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Just another comment: Over 4,400 people have gotten the complete > iso's, but only 318 are currently still online to upload them to > others. Thanks for reminding me. I had rebuilt and installed the 15 kernel this morning and had forgotten to restart bittorrent when I rebooted. Back feeding now. and personally, I plan to continue doing so until the ISO's are on the public mirrors. Charles -- You never hesitate to tackle the most difficult problems. - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-12.tmb.1mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 17, 2003 08:18 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: [..] > We stayed up for 24hrs but it was slowing down my office connection > to the point where I had to shut it off this morning. How do I turn > it back on for uploads over the weekend? > > Lee The same way you started it to begin with. It will "check the files" and resume upload as though it were a fresh download, but only connects for uploads and shows as complete, uploading. C. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 09:17:41 up 26 days, 22:40, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.06, 0.08 Kissing a smoker is like licking an ashtray. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/kAioG11CaRuZZSIRAtr6AJ0RFDqflb/tWbXsWUgWnjrqaTEQ3gCfZR0a sSuM27+dnsHVVn7bPjyDVhw= =uC1r -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 17, 2003 07:56 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: [..] >When BT froze (not BT's fault), I rebooted to change some bios > settings for the ram. I've since learned why BT wouldn't start up > again after I rebooted. My connection is dynamic, and my IP had > changed when I reconnected. > > You need to d/l a new mytorrent-.torrent file every time > your IP changes. Otherwise you'll get that 'can't connect to > tracker' error. Somehow I missed that instruction, but luckily > d/l'd a new torrent file on a hunch ;) > > AFAIK, to make your own CD's you need to d/l the entire 9.2 tree > and use 'mkcd' to create CD's from it, specifying size (650, 700 > mb). You'll need to look for and study any docs you can find. I've > never done it. Probly be easier to make a floppy image and do a > ftp install. Tho I've never done that either ;) FTP installs are problematic even with a moderately fast broadband connection. My cable routinely connects to mirrors at 300 to 400 KB/sec and an install still takes more than 2 hours on average. Depends on the number of packages selected though I suppose. I believe an hd install from a local mirror made using rpmsync, fmirror, or rsync would save grief. Assuming of course the space for the trees is available. Making a set of disks is not really hard, just aggravating. Syntax has to so precise and the flags need to be in a specific order to make it work. I've managed it a few times but it may just lead to frustration. >Just another comment: Over 4,400 people have gotten the complete > iso's, but only 318 are currently still online to upload them to > others. That's not very nice. Seems a lot of people got theirs and > then selfishly disconnected. The torrent idea depends on people > staying online specially after they're d/l is complete. > http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969/ Depressing isn't it? The last time torrent was used to share the ISOs (RC2) I had already rsync-ed a set from one of the mirrors and fed back the upload at an average of 60 KB/sec for more than a week. The same thing was happening then. I'd still make the bandwidth available again, but I have no intention of accessing the club torrents to get the ISOs. There are too many willing to download and not enough willing to return the favour. I'll just wait for the 7 disk "Power Pack CDs Only" set to get here. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 08:50:44 up 26 days, 22:13, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.12, 0.39 When a man steals your wife, there is no better revenge than to let him keep her. -- Sacha Guitry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/kAeeG11CaRuZZSIRAhpCAJ0e6RhPfN2PuSj2CokAjhwBGTamlwCeI8Iw r6QELJfIPKGItvOqzQbgoCI= =4/Qa -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
Lee, Just start it as you did the first time. It will check the file is there and just serve it. Tony. -Original Message- From: Lee Wiggers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:56:22 -0500 Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday October 16 2003 11:10 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > > > As I started off with, this bittorBS is new to me, never > > > been a fan of p2p anyhow. There's a growin consensus of docs, > > > FAQ's, an smart BT people tho. Use the list archives, cooker, > > > expert, an newbie, Club links, plus Google for people smarter > > > than me. > > > > So I have finally given up, I will wait till the durn thing is > > on the regular mirrors. I never was able to connect to a tracker > > and found nothing to help or even mention my problem on the mail > > lists or forums. Not a big deal, I have 9.2 cooker running on > > another machine, I don't know how to make a set of disks from > > that, or I would to upgrade the other two machines. But they all > > run without a problem so why am I in such a hurry to have the > > latest and greatest? Call me "he who could not track down a > > tracker" : ) -- > >When BT froze (not BT's fault), I rebooted to change some bios > settings for the ram. I've since learned why BT wouldn't start up > again after I rebooted. My connection is dynamic, and my IP had > changed when I reconnected. > > You need to d/l a new mytorrent-.torrent file every > time > your IP changes. Otherwise you'll get that 'can't connect to > tracker' error. Somehow I missed that instruction, but luckily > d/l'd a new torrent file on a hunch ;) > > AFAIK, to make your own CD's you need to d/l the entire 9.2 > tree > and use 'mkcd' to create CD's from it, specifying size (650, 700 > mb). You'll need to look for and study any docs you can find. > I've never done it. Probly be easier to make a floppy image and > do a ftp install. Tho I've never done that either ;) > >Just another comment: Over 4,400 people have gotten the >complete > iso's, but only 318 are currently still online to upload them to > others. That's not very nice. Seems a lot of people got theirs > and then selfishly disconnected. The torrent idea depends on > people staying online specially after they're d/l is > complete. > http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969/ > -- > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas > > > We stayed up for 24hrs but it was slowing down my office connection to the point where I had to shut it off this morning. How do I turn it back on for uploads over the weekend? Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com <http://www.bcpsoftware.com/> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:56:22 -0500 Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday October 16 2003 11:10 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > > > As I started off with, this bittorBS is new to me, never > > > been a fan of p2p anyhow. There's a growin consensus of docs, > > > FAQ's, an smart BT people tho. Use the list archives, cooker, > > > expert, an newbie, Club links, plus Google for people smarter > > > than me. > > > > So I have finally given up, I will wait till the durn thing is > > on the regular mirrors. I never was able to connect to a tracker > > and found nothing to help or even mention my problem on the mail > > lists or forums. Not a big deal, I have 9.2 cooker running on > > another machine, I don't know how to make a set of disks from > > that, or I would to upgrade the other two machines. But they all > > run without a problem so why am I in such a hurry to have the > > latest and greatest? Call me "he who could not track down a > > tracker" : ) -- > >When BT froze (not BT's fault), I rebooted to change some bios > settings for the ram. I've since learned why BT wouldn't start up > again after I rebooted. My connection is dynamic, and my IP had > changed when I reconnected. > > You need to d/l a new mytorrent-.torrent file every > time > your IP changes. Otherwise you'll get that 'can't connect to > tracker' error. Somehow I missed that instruction, but luckily > d/l'd a new torrent file on a hunch ;) > > AFAIK, to make your own CD's you need to d/l the entire 9.2 > tree > and use 'mkcd' to create CD's from it, specifying size (650, 700 > mb). You'll need to look for and study any docs you can find. > I've never done it. Probly be easier to make a floppy image and > do a ftp install. Tho I've never done that either ;) > >Just another comment: Over 4,400 people have gotten the >complete > iso's, but only 318 are currently still online to upload them to > others. That's not very nice. Seems a lot of people got theirs > and then selfishly disconnected. The torrent idea depends on > people staying online specially after they're d/l is > complete. > http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969/ > -- > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas > > > We stayed up for 24hrs but it was slowing down my office connection to the point where I had to shut it off this morning. How do I turn it back on for uploads over the weekend? Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
I stayed on at least 24 hours after mine finished. I suppose I could fire it back up again, but what should we class as a reasonable time to keep it up? Tony. -Original Message- From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong On Thursday October 16 2003 11:10 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > > As I started off with, this bittorBS is new to me, never > > been a fan of p2p anyhow. There's a growin consensus of docs, > > FAQ's, an smart BT people tho. Use the list archives, cooker, > > expert, an newbie, Club links, plus Google for people smarter > > than me. > > So I have finally given up, I will wait till the durn thing is on > the regular mirrors. I never was able to connect to a tracker and > found nothing to help or even mention my problem on the mail > lists or forums. Not a big deal, I have 9.2 cooker running on > another machine, I don't know how to make a set of disks from > that, or I would to upgrade the other two machines. But they all > run without a problem so why am I in such a hurry to have the > latest and greatest? Call me "he who could not track down a > tracker" : ) -- When BT froze (not BT's fault), I rebooted to change some bios settings for the ram. I've since learned why BT wouldn't start up again after I rebooted. My connection is dynamic, and my IP had changed when I reconnected. You need to d/l a new mytorrent-.torrent file every time your IP changes. Otherwise you'll get that 'can't connect to tracker' error. Somehow I missed that instruction, but luckily d/l'd a new torrent file on a hunch ;) AFAIK, to make your own CD's you need to d/l the entire 9.2 tree and use 'mkcd' to create CD's from it, specifying size (650, 700 mb). You'll need to look for and study any docs you can find. I've never done it. Probly be easier to make a floppy image and do a ftp install. Tho I've never done that either ;) Just another comment: Over 4,400 people have gotten the complete iso's, but only 318 are currently still online to upload them to others. That's not very nice. Seems a lot of people got theirs and then selfishly disconnected. The torrent idea depends on people staying online specially after they're d/l is complete. http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969/ -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com <http://www.bcpsoftware.com/> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
On Thursday October 16 2003 11:10 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > > As I started off with, this bittorBS is new to me, never > > been a fan of p2p anyhow. There's a growin consensus of docs, > > FAQ's, an smart BT people tho. Use the list archives, cooker, > > expert, an newbie, Club links, plus Google for people smarter > > than me. > > So I have finally given up, I will wait till the durn thing is on > the regular mirrors. I never was able to connect to a tracker and > found nothing to help or even mention my problem on the mail > lists or forums. Not a big deal, I have 9.2 cooker running on > another machine, I don't know how to make a set of disks from > that, or I would to upgrade the other two machines. But they all > run without a problem so why am I in such a hurry to have the > latest and greatest? Call me "he who could not track down a > tracker" : ) -- When BT froze (not BT's fault), I rebooted to change some bios settings for the ram. I've since learned why BT wouldn't start up again after I rebooted. My connection is dynamic, and my IP had changed when I reconnected. You need to d/l a new mytorrent-.torrent file every time your IP changes. Otherwise you'll get that 'can't connect to tracker' error. Somehow I missed that instruction, but luckily d/l'd a new torrent file on a hunch ;) AFAIK, to make your own CD's you need to d/l the entire 9.2 tree and use 'mkcd' to create CD's from it, specifying size (650, 700 mb). You'll need to look for and study any docs you can find. I've never done it. Probly be easier to make a floppy image and do a ftp install. Tho I've never done that either ;) Just another comment: Over 4,400 people have gotten the complete iso's, but only 318 are currently still online to upload them to others. That's not very nice. Seems a lot of people got theirs and then selfishly disconnected. The torrent idea depends on people staying online specially after they're d/l is complete. http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969/ -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
On Wednesday October 15 2003 02:48 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > > So I was wrong. Bittorrent does make sense for getting > > Mandrake iso's. Specially since Mandrake depends on donated > > mirror space and bandwidth, and torrent goes easy on both. And > > since the reduced upload rate makes my connection otherwise > > completely usable, I intend to keep torrent runnin long after > > my d/l is complete. It's only fair to do so. Thanks, > > Tom, is there anything special one has to do to connect with a > tracker? Open a port or whatever, I have a Lynksys router with > the 688x ports forwarded, but have not gotten a tracker since > starting yesterday. The folders were made automagically and > files for the iso's but they are 0 bits. Any suggestions? > Grasping at straws to make sure I have this set up right. -- > Dennis M. linux user #180842 You're not askin an expert ;) Shortly after I posted the 'I was wrong' sentiment, the BT GUI crashed. Well, it froze anyhow. I killed it and restarted. But it wouldn't. Here's the steps I took; I used 'rpm -Uvh --force bittorrent-*' to reinstall the bittorrent rpms. That didn't do it. Still no go. So I did a similar deal with it's deps, 'rpm - Uvh --force' libwxPythonGTK2.4-2.4.1.2-3mdk.i586.rpm wxPythonGTK-2.4.1.2-3mdk.i586.rpm (these are all, 9.2 cooker versions, I'm already runnin) Try'd again, still no go. 404. By now I wished I'd never bitched about torrent, or said 'I was wrong' and it 'makes sense'. Last straw; I deleted my bittorrent file and re d/l'd it from Club. Voila!! (or as we say in TX, walja!!). The damn torrent connection started goin again ... right where it left off. So I guess when BT GUI froze, an I killed it, my.torrent file got screwed. Re-install'n the rpms with --force was probly not needed. Re-doin my 'download.py' edits was, again, to limit upload, speed up d/l and keep my connection otherwise usable. As I started off with, this bittorBS is new to me, never been a fan of p2p anyhow. There's a growin consensus of docs, FAQ's, an smart BT people tho. Use the list archives, cooker, expert, an newbie, Club links, plus Google for people smarter than me. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 01:05 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > This mornin I got up and was readin my email. Much of which was > down on bittorrent (sux!), much of which was very positive. So > what'a heck, I started a 9.2 iso torrent after checking here, >http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969/ to see how many givers > and getters were online. After the first hour, my upload connection > was maxed out. Making sending email, even surfing very slow. I was > getting about 5kB/s down, but uploading 12kB/s up. SOS, seemed as > bad as my prior experience gettin cooker iso's with torrent. >-BUT- > Many of the positive on torrent posts, gave the links and even > posted the edits to tweak bittorent to increase performance and not > kill your connection for other use. I decided to try. During my > prior cooker experience, I was usin bittorrent on the CL. This time > I was usin the GUI. So I stopped the current torrent. >> the default config. > > So I was wrong. Bittorrent does make sense for getting Mandrake > iso's. Specially since Mandrake depends on donated mirror space > and bandwidth, and torrent goes easy on both. And since the > reduced upload rate makes my connection otherwise completely > usable, I intend to keep torrent runnin long after my d/l is > complete. It's only fair to do so. Thanks, Tom, is there anything special one has to do to connect with a tracker? Open a port or whatever, I have a Lynksys router with the 688x ports forwarded, but have not gotten a tracker since starting yesterday. The folders were made automagically and files for the iso's but they are 0 bits. Any suggestions? Grasping at straws to make sure I have this set up right. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 9.2 torrent, I was wrong
This mornin I got up and was readin my email. Much of which was down on bittorrent (sux!), much of which was very positive. So what'a heck, I started a 9.2 iso torrent after checking here, http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969/ to see how many givers and getters were online. After the first hour, my upload connection was maxed out. Making sending email, even surfing very slow. I was getting about 5kB/s down, but uploading 12kB/s up. SOS, seemed as bad as my prior experience gettin cooker iso's with torrent. -BUT- Many of the positive on torrent posts, gave the links and even posted the edits to tweak bittorent to increase performance and not kill your connection for other use. I decided to try. During my prior cooker experience, I was usin bittorrent on the CL. This time I was usin the GUI. So I stopped the current torrent. Seems all I had to do was edit... /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.py and change defaults = [ ('max_uploads', None, 2, ^ this was a 4 .and limit upload. ('max_upload_rate', None, 6, 'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'), The 6 was a 0, or unlimited. My adsl connection is only 128 kilobit up, about 14kB/s upload max. More likely 12 in the real world. So I made the upload rate about 50%, or 6kB/s, 2 getters instead of 4. Made a world of difference. My internet connection became completely usable, yet in the next hour after restarting (it resumed where it had been stopped) bittorrent started going. Took a while to ramp up, but then started getting over 300MB/hour (50% of my normal speed). About 6 times as fast as when I first tried with the default config. So I was wrong. Bittorrent does make sense for getting Mandrake iso's. Specially since Mandrake depends on donated mirror space and bandwidth, and torrent goes easy on both. And since the reduced upload rate makes my connection otherwise completely usable, I intend to keep torrent runnin long after my d/l is complete. It's only fair to do so. Thanks, -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com