Re: [newbie] Bittorrent setup {FIXED]

2005-03-11 Thread Christopher Taylor
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:36:27 +, Anne Wilson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 10 Mar 2005 17:21, Derek Jennings wrote:
> > On Thursday 10 March 2005 14:03, Christopher Taylor wrote:
> > > Some of the sites that I am looking at only have downloads via
> > > bittorent.  Can someone explain what this is and how it is setup?
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Bittorrent is a peer2peer file transfer protocol that is especially good
> > for big files such as iso images.
> > When you join a torrent you download fragments of the file from many people
> > at once and simultaneously you upload to other people.
> >
> > To use bittorrent install bittorrent and bittorrent-gui packages
> > Also make sure the mozplugger package is installed if it is not already.
> > (Restart your browser after installing mozplugger - mozplugger tells your
> > system how to handle most browser file types. For a torrent file it will
> > open up btdownloadgui.py for you)
> >
> > You should then be able to join a torrent just by clicking on the 'seed'
> > file displayed on web pages with firefox/mozilla/konqueror/opera
> >
> > If that does not work then save the torrent seed file to disc and then open
> > Menu>Internet>FileTransfer>BittorrentGUI and select the downloaded file.
> >
> > For Bittorrent to work you MUST open your firewall to permit uploading to
> > other users. Bittorrent does not permit 'leeching'. (Taking without giving)
> >
> > In your firewall open ports 6881to 6889 and 6969
> > If you have an external firewall then forward those ports to your Linux
> > computer.
> >
> > See http://www.bittorrent.com/introduction.html
> >
> It's also important to configure your upload/download, and don't forget to
> leave your connection live for a period after you have finished, to help
> those just starting a download.
> 
> Anne
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Everything worked fine, for the most part.  I tried to download the
privateer remake which had a stated file size of 180.5 meg. 
Bitttorrent ran at ~160 kps up until that point where the percentage
went to 99% downloaded.  The speed dropped to ~30 kps and kept
downloading.  There were uploads at a speed of 1 kps the entire time. 
I went out for the evening with the download still going (200 meg and
still going).  When I got home the download was complete at 360 meg. 
The game installed and now I have to learn how to play it.

I followed these steps:
1.  urpmi bittorrent
2.  urpmi bittorent-gui
3.  urpmi mozplugger (Failed on real-codec dependancy of mplayer)
4.  Went to website of download and clicked on file.
5.  Firefox asked to open of save.  Open was with bittorent gui so I chose that.

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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent setup

2005-03-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 10 Mar 2005 17:21, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Thursday 10 March 2005 14:03, Christopher Taylor wrote:
> > Some of the sites that I am looking at only have downloads via
> > bittorent.  Can someone explain what this is and how it is setup?
> > Thanks.
>
> Bittorrent is a peer2peer file transfer protocol that is especially good
> for big files such as iso images.
> When you join a torrent you download fragments of the file from many people
> at once and simultaneously you upload to other people.
>
> To use bittorrent install bittorrent and bittorrent-gui packages
> Also make sure the mozplugger package is installed if it is not already.
> (Restart your browser after installing mozplugger - mozplugger tells your
> system how to handle most browser file types. For a torrent file it will
> open up btdownloadgui.py for you)
>
> You should then be able to join a torrent just by clicking on the 'seed'
> file displayed on web pages with firefox/mozilla/konqueror/opera
>
> If that does not work then save the torrent seed file to disc and then open
> Menu>Internet>FileTransfer>BittorrentGUI and select the downloaded file.
>
> For Bittorrent to work you MUST open your firewall to permit uploading to
> other users. Bittorrent does not permit 'leeching'. (Taking without giving)
>
> In your firewall open ports 6881to 6889 and 6969
> If you have an external firewall then forward those ports to your Linux
> computer.
>
> See http://www.bittorrent.com/introduction.html
>
It's also important to configure your upload/download, and don't forget to 
leave your connection live for a period after you have finished, to help 
those just starting a download.

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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent setup

2005-03-10 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 10 March 2005 14:03, Christopher Taylor wrote:
> Some of the sites that I am looking at only have downloads via
> bittorent.  Can someone explain what this is and how it is setup?
> Thanks.
Bittorrent is a peer2peer file transfer protocol that is especially good for 
big files such as iso images.
When you join a torrent you download fragments of the file from many people at 
once and simultaneously you upload to other people.

To use bittorrent install bittorrent and bittorrent-gui packages
Also make sure the mozplugger package is installed if it is not already.
(Restart your browser after installing mozplugger - mozplugger tells your 
system how to handle most browser file types. For a torrent file it will open 
up btdownloadgui.py for you)

You should then be able to join a torrent just by clicking on the 'seed' file 
displayed on web pages with firefox/mozilla/konqueror/opera

If that does not work then save the torrent seed file to disc and then open 
Menu>Internet>FileTransfer>BittorrentGUI and select the downloaded file.

For Bittorrent to work you MUST open your firewall to permit uploading to 
other users. Bittorrent does not permit 'leeching'. (Taking without giving)

In your firewall open ports 6881to 6889 and 6969
If you have an external firewall then forward those ports to your Linux 
computer.

See http://www.bittorrent.com/introduction.html

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Fw: [newbie] Bittorrent setup

2005-03-10 Thread Anders Lind
Should have been going here as wellgmail again LOL
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To: "Christopher Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [newbie] Bittorrent setup


>
> > Some of the sites that I am looking at only have downloads via
> > bittorent.  Can someone explain what this is and how it is setup?
> > Thanks.
>
> I would suggest using Azureus (http://azureus.sourceforge.net), it is very
> easy to use and a good client
>
> /Anders



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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent setup

2005-03-10 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 10 March 2005 15:03, Christopher Taylor wrote:
> Some of the sites that I am looking at only have downloads via
> bittorent.  Can someone explain what this is and how it is setup?
> Thanks.

Take a trip here :

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/09/bittorrent_update/

Bittorrent is included in 10.1 and very easy to set up.

HTH

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[newbie] Bittorrent setup

2005-03-10 Thread Christopher Taylor
Some of the sites that I am looking at only have downloads via
bittorent.  Can someone explain what this is and how it is setup? 
Thanks.

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[newbie] Bittorrent setup

2004-11-04 Thread Fred Fraley
Is anyone familiar with seting up a sevice for Bittorrent on a 
Westell Versalink 237W?

Thanks,
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[newbie] BitTorrent Not working

2004-08-03 Thread JRH

Hi all,

I have just gone back to 9.2 from 10CE, and I am still getting BT and BTGUI 
playing up on me.

When I double click a .torrent file, I get an error message saying that 
KDEinit couldnt find the BitTorrent executable

I have checked, and the folder /usr/lib/bittorrent exists, but it contains all 
python .py files, amog a few others.

Nothing else shows up. Any ideas? I have installed BT from the distro CD.

JRH

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[newbie] BitTorrent

2004-07-18 Thread Marco Verheul
Hi all,

I want to start exploring BitTorrent. What client and/or setup do you
recommend for mdk 10.0?

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Re: [newbie] bittorrent on dialup

2004-03-16 Thread Charlie M.
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On March 16, 2004 12:20 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 March 2004 17:30, Charlie M. wrote:
> > You won't lose everything HarM. The application does a "/tmp mount" (the
> > "r" switch for recursive means all and sub directories in the source and
> > target) of the images in order to do the sync. If rsync or the connection
> > crashes whatever has already been written is still there, so it isn't as
> > though you start over if that happens.
>
> It just didI started rsync with the --delete flag than stopped it
> after a while (using ctrl-c)..leaves an empty directory. No hidden or
> partial files, nothing!

That empty directory is where the actual diff is happening. Did you leave it 
there? I just ran a manual rsync on the cooker tree stopped it after it 
started writing the second file. When I restarted it the sync picked up from 
that file. Interesting. On ISOs the entire image will probably have to read 
and the progress will have to show something above 0% before it would pick up 
where it stopped. ISOs are still treated as one (very large) file. That may 
be why I always rsync against complete directories, but it's been so long 
since I started doing things this way I'd have to dig through a _lot_ of 
notes to be certain.

> There was a partial file while rsync was running though.
> No harm done except some wasted bandwidth, I used copies;)

Sorry about your bandwidth. As stated above, on ISOs the entire source and 
target have to be read before anything is actually written. 

I'm truly sorry that I didn't make that clear sooner. Abject apologies HarM.

> I agree about the clean tree though...hadn't thought about files completely
> being removed or renamed. I should've as I've stumbled across the same
> problems with discrepancies between the hdlists and available RPM's, using
> rsync for the updates.

There are times during the cooker cycle that things are so screwed up that I 
only run with the --delete flag once a week. I can afford the bandwidth and 
space, bandwidth is (theoretically anyway) unlimited with my ISP and disk 
space is close enough for guvmint work. 

> Always a joy sharing a thought or two with you,
> thanks,
> harM

Ditto my friend. You're good company.

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Re: [newbie] bittorrent on dialup

2004-03-16 Thread Charlie M.
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On March 16, 2004 09:58 am, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 March 2004 11:37 pm, Charlie M. wrote:
> > I dread reading such responses Fajar. I'm just an Open Source Software
> > user that has learned a few things, and feels obliged to put those
> > 'snippets of knowledge' to work by helping however I'm able. "Pass it on"
> > in other words. I'll never be able to return a fraction of the benefit I
> > have derived from the Open Source Community in general; and this Mandrake
> > Community in particular.
> >
> > You're very welcome, and I hope mine was a useful response to your post.
> >
> You're so modest. That's what I like from you.

See what I mean about these types of responses? Modesty, and by implication 
humility, are based on the assumption that the 'recipient' of the praise is 
competent enough at a task, and of worthy character, to warrant the praise. 

I'm not, I'm only competent enough to know what I don't know. Sounds a 
conundrum, but it's not; it's just recognition of how I learn. The way I 
always have, with false starts, mistakes and frustration. 

The hard way I mean. 

As to my charactertake that up with my ex wives. 

> And you know what someday, if God speed, I will come and live in
> Canada. Wish me luck.

May you always achieve your desires, while always having new desires and goals 
to strive for when you do Fajar.

I have a feeling you'd be a welcome addition to the multi cultural landscape 
that is Canada.

If well wishes from an old red-neck will help then you have them. If I have 
any blessings to give. (-;

Regards;
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Re: [newbie] bittorrent on dialup

2004-03-16 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 17:30, Charlie M. wrote:
> You won't lose everything HarM. The application does a "/tmp mount" (the
> "r" switch for recursive means all and sub directories in the source and
> target) of the images in order to do the sync. If rsync or the connection
> crashes whatever has already been written is still there, so it isn't as
> though you start over if that happens.

It just didI started rsync with the --delete flag than stopped it 
after a while (using ctrl-c)..leaves an empty directory. No hidden or 
partial files, nothing!
There was a partial file while rsync was running though.
No harm done except some wasted bandwidth, I used copies;)

I agree about the clean tree though...hadn't thought about files completely 
being removed or renamed. I should've as I've stumbled across the same 
problems with discrepancies between the hdlists and available RPM's, using 
rsync for the updates.

Always a joy sharing a thought or two with you,
thanks,
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Re: [newbie] bittorrent on dialup

2004-03-16 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Tuesday 16 March 2004 11:37 pm, Charlie M. wrote:

> I dread reading such responses Fajar. I'm just an Open Source Software user
> that has learned a few things, and feels obliged to put those 'snippets of
> knowledge' to work by helping however I'm able. "Pass it on" in other
> words. I'll never be able to return a fraction of the benefit I have
> derived from the Open Source Community in general; and this Mandrake
> Community in particular.
>
> You're very welcome, and I hope mine was a useful response to your post.
>
> Regards;
> Charlie

You're so modest. That's what I like from you.
And you know what someday, if God speed, I will come and live in Canada. 
Wish me luck.
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Re: [newbie] bittorrent on dialup

2004-03-16 Thread Charlie M.
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On March 15, 2004 09:08 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 March 2004 04:26 am, Charlie M. wrote:
> > it's one way, download only. Sort of anyway, rsync reads everything on
> > both ends but only downloads what's required to synchronize the
> > directories. Rather than upload and download as with bit torrent. Again
> > less bandwidth;
> >
> > Less chance of file corruption due to restarts. Maybe.
> >
> > HTH
> > Charlie
>
> Thanks a lot Charlie, I'll try rsync.
> It's good to know there are someone like you out there :)

I dread reading such responses Fajar. I'm just an Open Source Software user 
that has learned a few things, and feels obliged to put those 'snippets of 
knowledge' to work by helping however I'm able. "Pass it on" in other words. 
I'll never be able to return a fraction of the benefit I have derived from 
the Open Source Community in general; and this Mandrake Community in 
particular.

You're very welcome, and I hope mine was a useful response to your post.

Regards;
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Re: [newbie] bittorrent on dialup

2004-03-16 Thread Charlie M.
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On March 16, 2004 02:35 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

> Charlie,
> Indulge me, but what's the "--delete" flag good for other than saving
> diskspace?

Yeah HarM, space. But with 240 GB of disk space available here that isn't the 
main concern. 

It also makes a nice clean tree that, in the example given for Mandrake 10, 
means the tree and hdlists will be in total agreement after the operation is 
completed. Finally since we're discussing ISOs, if a file or package exists 
on an old set of disk images but not on the source images for the new version 
being synced, there will be no discrepancies left if the --delete flag is 
there. The old files and packages will be deleted. That's why I specified 
copying the old ISOs. There are many possible reasons to keep ISOs for older 
releases.

> That way if the rsync job hangs or is lost someway you lose
> everything.it does leave a nice clean slate though;)

You won't lose everything HarM. The application does a "/tmp mount" (the "r" 
switch for recursive means all and sub directories in the source and target) 
of the images in order to do the sync. If rsync or the connection crashes 
whatever has already been written is still there, so it isn't as though you 
start over if that happens.

I use rsync to keep a local tree of the current and previous 2 releases of 
Mandrake plus a few other distributions. Also keep all the updates 
synchronized daily for them. Plus I keep images of OEM Windows 98 SE, Windows 
2000 Pro and XP Pro. Although the latter are just here in case someone that 
has kids and a Windows system needs a re-install, but their original disk has 
become a casualty of parenting. (-;

I never know what I'll be asked to install, re-install, or install for someone 
and I hate waiting for downloads.

> Good luck,
> HarM

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Re: [newbie] bittorrent

2004-03-16 Thread et
On Monday 15 March 2004 08:49 am, Aron Smith wrote:
> After installing Mandrake 10 I can't get bittorrent-shawdows client to work
> any suggestions?
> Thanks
> smitty
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Re: [newbie] bittorrent on dialup

2004-03-16 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 15 March 2004 22:26, Charlie M. wrote:
> rsync -avrt --progress --delete --exclude MandrakeMove-i586.iso
> ftp.uninett.no::Mandrake/Mandrake/iso/
> /archive/backup/nanook/downloads/Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community/
>
> That's all one line.
>
> The reason the --exclude flag is in there is probably obvious, you don't
> need MandrakeMove. Or the md5sum.asc for it but I'm leaving the reader
> something to do for themselves.  The reason(s) for using rsync instead
> of anything else are IMHO:
>
> you only actually download the differences between the files, so less
> (much) bandwidth and less (much) time involved;
>
> it's one way, download only. Sort of anyway, rsync reads everything on both
> ends but only downloads what's required to synchronize the directories.
> Rather than upload and download as with bit torrent. Again less bandwidth;
>
> Less chance of file corruption due to restarts. Maybe.
>
> HTH
> Charlie

Charlie,
Indulge me, but what's the "--delete" flag good for other than saving 
diskspace?

That way if the rsync job hangs or is lost someway you lose everything.it 
does leave a nice clean slate though;)

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] bittorrent on dialup

2004-03-15 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Tuesday 16 March 2004 04:26 am, Charlie M. wrote:
> it's one way, download only. Sort of anyway, rsync reads everything on both
> ends but only downloads what's required to synchronize the directories.
> Rather than upload and download as with bit torrent. Again less bandwidth;
>
> Less chance of file corruption due to restarts. Maybe.
>
> HTH
> Charlie
Thanks a lot Charlie, I'll try rsync. 
It's good to know there are someone like you out there :)

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Re: [newbie] bittorrent on dialup

2004-03-15 Thread Charlie M.
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On March 15, 2004 10:29 am, Fajar PRiyanto wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I'm trying bittorrent. Can it be used on dial up machine like mine?
> I've installed it, but really confused of what I do next.
> How do I begin to use it?
> Thanks,
> Fajar.

Hello Fajar;

For small files yes, no trouble. For stuff such as Mandrake 10 Community 
Editionwll not so much. (-:

Just how long do you plan to live my friend? Theoretically you could use bit 
torrent on a dial up connection; but remember the size of the (for example) 
complete torrent for Mandrake 10 Community. 2.0 Giga Bytes. How long do you 
think that would take at a (theoretical) maximum download speed of 5 KB per 
second?

On the other hand you can achieve the same effect (having the ISOs) using 
rsync instead, and with less pain involved.

If you still have the ISOs from a previous version just copy and rename them 
to what you see here:

ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/iso

or here:

ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/iso

Then open a terminal and run rsync against a mirror that supports it. The 
following is the command I use as me, not root. Change the directory path 
(the part after the space between /Mandrake/iso/ and /archive/backup and so 
on) to suit your own local environment:

rsync -avrt --progress --delete --exclude MandrakeMove-i586.iso 
ftp.uninett.no::Mandrake/Mandrake/iso/ 
/archive/backup/nanook/downloads/Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community/

That's all one line.

The reason the --exclude flag is in there is probably obvious, you don't need 
MandrakeMove. Or the md5sum.asc for it but I'm leaving the reader something 
to do for themselves.  The reason(s) for using rsync instead of anything 
else are IMHO:

you only actually download the differences between the files, so less (much) 
bandwidth and less (much) time involved;

it's one way, download only. Sort of anyway, rsync reads everything on both 
ends but only downloads what's required to synchronize the directories. 
Rather than upload and download as with bit torrent. Again less bandwidth;

Less chance of file corruption due to restarts. Maybe.

HTH
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[newbie] bittorrent on dialup

2004-03-15 Thread Fajar PRiyanto
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Hi guys,
I'm trying bittorrent. Can it be used on dial up machine like mine?
I've installed it, but really confused of what I do next.
How do I begin to use it?
Thanks,
Fajar.
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[newbie] bittorrent

2004-03-15 Thread Aron Smith
After installing Mandrake 10 I can't get bittorrent-shawdows client to work
any suggestions?
Thanks
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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent hints

2004-03-10 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Wednesday 10 March 2004 01:20, Glenn wrote:
> If anybody is still having problems with Bittorrent, maybe some of
> the hints at this site might help:
>
>
> http://knowbuddy.dyndns.org:81/torrent/btclientconfig.html

I think it's time for a Bittorrent page in the TWiki.

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[newbie] Bittorrent hints

2004-03-09 Thread Glenn

If anybody is still having problems with Bittorrent, maybe some of the hints 
at this site might help:


http://knowbuddy.dyndns.org:81/torrent/btclientconfig.html

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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent help -- some detail please

2004-03-08 Thread John Wilson
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On March 8, 2004 06:57 am, Inhabitant of Zion wrote:
> > Are your ports open?
>
> Yep.

A curious thing, which I can't understand, is happening.  I started the 
download of the powerpack CDs some 16 hours ago.  The speed, with some 60 
peers and 19 seeds, crawled along at an average speed of something in the 
neighbourhood of 3 KB/s.

I just got in with the intent of restarting everything to see if I could do 
something about this.  Not, you understand, that I'm really wanting to do 
anything other than burn and test the CDs till the weekend.  Just to see.

Well, I got home and low and behold with only 8 peers and now 28 seeds I'm 
flying along at 110-119 kBps.  Now I either have wonderful peers or it just 
took 16 hours to get up to speed with fewer peers.  Even more interesting is 
my share rating has hit the tank.

To say that I don't understand this is an understatement. :-)

ttfn

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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent shadows client (yes, again)

2004-03-08 Thread Chuck Mattsen
On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 20:47, Lee Wiggers wrote:
> Chuck Mattsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Fine.  On the web, it seems that others had reported similar error
> > messages, and the advice was to upgrade to 5.8.7, which I
> > downloaded. Upon beginning install, though, I get the following
> > message:
> > 
> > The following packages have to be removed for others to be
> > upgraded: kdelibs-common-3.1.3-35.1.92mdk.i586 (due to 
> > conflicts with bittorrent-shadowsclient-5.8.7-1mdk.noarch)
> > do you agree ? 
> > 
> > Call me paranoid, perhaps, but that package its suggesting for
> > removal sounds a little important to this near-complete newbie? 
> > So, I've not gone any further.  (running 9.2)
> > 
>
> I closed my eyes and punched "y" and haven't suffered that I can
> see.
> 
> mdk 9.2 on enterprise kernel

Well, I closed my eyes, as well, and gave it a shot, but it was a no-go
, returning:

Installation failed:
kdelibs-common = 3000:3.1.3-35.1.92mdk is needed by
(installed) libkdecore4-3.1.3-35.1.92mdk
kdelibs-common is needed by (installed)
libkdebase4-3.1.3-79.1.92mdk 

So, back to curses (in more ways than one).  Heck, I guess I'll just use
BitTorrent in Windows and burn from there.  Much easier.

Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent shadows client (yes, again)

2004-03-08 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 08:22:12 -0600
Chuck Mattsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My apologies if this question eventually shows up twice on the
> list, but my prior post of about 12 hours ago seems to have
> evaporated somewhere en route ...
> 
> I've been using the btdownloadcurses.py method of /slowly/
> downloading the members' community edition, and wanted to download
> a gui client for easier control of the various parameters.
> 
> Okay, so I tried switching from the btdownloadcurses interface to
> an install of the bittorrent-shadows client (version 5.8.3.),
> which gave me a "cannot listen" error upon its finishing checking
> the already-downloaded portion of the file.
> 
> Fine.  On the web, it seems that others had reported similar error
> messages, and the advice was to upgrade to 5.8.7, which I
> downloaded. Upon beginning install, though, I get the following
> message:
> 
> The following packages have to be removed for others to be
> upgraded: kdelibs-common-3.1.3-35.1.92mdk.i586 (due to 
> conflicts with bittorrent-shadowsclient-5.8.7-1mdk.noarch)
> do you agree ? 
> 
> Call me paranoid, perhaps, but that package its suggesting for
> removal sounds a little important to this near-complete newbie? 
> So, I've not gone any further.  (running 9.2)
> 
> Can anyone either confirm my suspicion or put my fears to rest?
> 
> Secondly, can anyone assure me that working in Linux /does/
> actually get to be less painful with time?  :-)  Seriously, this
> has been the most frustrating month I can remember in many years
> of working with computers, and I'm beginning to think that this
> old dog can't learn these new tricks ... this is a major hassle
> getting anything to work properly.
> 
> TIA
> 
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> Registered Linux User #346519
> 
> 
> 
Chuck

I closed my eyes and punched "y" and haven't suffered that I can
see.

mdk 9.2 on enterprise kernel

As to "old dogs, etc, you have to get over the frustration.  It's
worth it in the end.

I keep notes on a continuing doc, keep "Linux Desk Reference" handy,
and most important, tune in to "Newbie".

I've been a Newbie since 2000 or so and still feel out of my depth
sometimes.

The alternative is to buy someone elses idea of technology over and
over again.  It works (mostly), but isn't very satisfying. 

Besides, it's always a thrill when you close your eyes, punch "yes"
and nothing explodes.

I haven't seen a bsod in years.

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[newbie] Bittorrent shadows client (yes, again)

2004-03-08 Thread Chuck Mattsen
My apologies if this question eventually shows up twice on the list, but
my prior post of about 12 hours ago seems to have evaporated somewhere
en route ...

I've been using the btdownloadcurses.py method of /slowly/ downloading
the members' community edition, and wanted to download a gui client for
easier control of the various parameters.

Okay, so I tried switching from the btdownloadcurses interface to an
install of the bittorrent-shadows client (version 5.8.3.), which gave me
a "cannot listen" error upon its finishing checking the
already-downloaded portion of the file.

Fine.  On the web, it seems that others had reported similar error
messages, and the advice was to upgrade to 5.8.7, which I downloaded. 
Upon beginning install, though, I get the following message:

The following packages have to be removed for others to be
upgraded: kdelibs-common-3.1.3-35.1.92mdk.i586 (due to 
conflicts with bittorrent-shadowsclient-5.8.7-1mdk.noarch)
do you agree ? 

Call me paranoid, perhaps, but that package its suggesting for removal
sounds a little important to this near-complete newbie?  So, I've not
gone any further.  (running 9.2)

Can anyone either confirm my suspicion or put my fears to rest?

Secondly, can anyone assure me that working in Linux /does/ actually get
to be less painful with time?  :-)  Seriously, this has been the most
frustrating month I can remember in many years of working with
computers, and I'm beginning to think that this old dog can't learn
these new tricks ... this is a major hassle getting anything to work
properly.

TIA

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Re: [newbie] BitTorrent-shadows client install -- kdelibs conflict?

2004-03-08 Thread Marlon Matias
oops, sorrywrong post. pls ignore
=)
- Original Message -
From: "Marlon Matias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] BitTorrent-shadows client install -- kdelibs conflict?


> Could someone post it, where i could find the torrent file?
>
> Thank you
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chuck Mattsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:51 PM
> Subject: [newbie] BitTorrent-shadows client install -- kdelibs conflict?
>
>
> > Okay, so I tried switching from the btdownloadcurses interface to an
> > install of the bittorrent-shadows client (version 5.8.3.), which gave me
> > a "can't listen" error upon its finishing checking the
> > already-downloaded portion of the file.
> >
> > Fine.  On the web, it seems that others had reported similar error
> > messages, and the advice was to upgrade to 5.8.7, which I downloaded.
> > Upon beginning install, though, I get the following message:
> >
> > The following packages have to be removed for others to be
> > upgraded: kdelibs-common-3.1.3-35.1.92mdk.i586 (due to
> > conflicts with bittorrent-shadowsclient-5.8.7-1mdk.noarch)
> > do you agree ?
> >
> > Call me paranoid, perhaps, but that package its suggesting for removal
> > sounds a little important to this near-complete newbie?  So, I've not
> > gone any further.
> >
> > Can anyone either confirm my suspicion or put my fears to rest?
> >
> > TIA
> > --
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> > Registered Linux User #346519
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [newbie] BitTorrent-shadows client install -- kdelibs conflict?

2004-03-08 Thread Marlon Matias
Could someone post it, where i could find the torrent file?

Thank you
- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Mattsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:51 PM
Subject: [newbie] BitTorrent-shadows client install -- kdelibs conflict?


> Okay, so I tried switching from the btdownloadcurses interface to an
> install of the bittorrent-shadows client (version 5.8.3.), which gave me
> a "can't listen" error upon its finishing checking the
> already-downloaded portion of the file.
>
> Fine.  On the web, it seems that others had reported similar error
> messages, and the advice was to upgrade to 5.8.7, which I downloaded.
> Upon beginning install, though, I get the following message:
>
> The following packages have to be removed for others to be
> upgraded: kdelibs-common-3.1.3-35.1.92mdk.i586 (due to
> conflicts with bittorrent-shadowsclient-5.8.7-1mdk.noarch)
> do you agree ?
>
> Call me paranoid, perhaps, but that package its suggesting for removal
> sounds a little important to this near-complete newbie?  So, I've not
> gone any further.
>
> Can anyone either confirm my suspicion or put my fears to rest?
>
> TIA
> --
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> Registered Linux User #346519
>
>
>






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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent help -- some detail please

2004-03-08 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 08 March 2004 04:37 am, Inhabitant of Zion wrote:
> Somebody on here said that it is possible by special request to get an
> FTP download of the ISOs.
>
> Well I an a club member and want to make that request - so whoever it
> was could you point whoever sets this up in my direction.
>
There is a form on the club website to request this

> No matter what I try I can't get a decent download going via bittorrent.
> Its been running for days now and max rate I have got so far is average
> of 8Kb/s and if I throttle back the upload I get even less :-(
>
> Its downloaded 2Mb in the last 8 hours.
>
> I suspect it may be my crap broadband provider.
>
Are your ports open?
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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent help -- some detail please

2004-03-08 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 08 March 2004 02:45 am, John Wilson wrote:
> With regard to shorewall I've just forwarded the ports that I've been
> advised to.  I also don't have a hardware router as too many of the cheap
> ones cause all kinds of grief and most of them can't be configured worth a
> damn anyway.
>
> I'm using the shadow client and it's showing them to me in the GUI.  I've
> also opened myself up to unlimited connections.
>
> For the record, for anyone following this thread, I'm not at between 55 and
> 86 kB/s which isn't bad, I guess.  It should finish sometime tomorrow at
> this rate :)

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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent help -- some detail please

2004-03-08 Thread Brian Parish
On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 20:37, Inhabitant of Zion wrote:
> Somebody on here said that it is possible by special request to get an
> FTP download of the ISOs.
> 
> Well I an a club member and want to make that request - so whoever it
> was could you point whoever sets this up in my direction.
> 
> No matter what I try I can't get a decent download going via bittorrent.
> Its been running for days now and max rate I have got so far is average
> of 8Kb/s and if I throttle back the upload I get even less :-( 
> 
> Its downloaded 2Mb in the last 8 hours.
> 
> I suspect it may be my crap broadband provider. 
> 
> regards

There is a link on the club site for arranging this.

cheers
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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent help -- some detail please

2004-03-08 Thread Inhabitant of Zion
Somebody on here said that it is possible by special request to get an
FTP download of the ISOs.

Well I an a club member and want to make that request - so whoever it
was could you point whoever sets this up in my direction.

No matter what I try I can't get a decent download going via bittorrent.
Its been running for days now and max rate I have got so far is average
of 8Kb/s and if I throttle back the upload I get even less :-( 

Its downloaded 2Mb in the last 8 hours.

I suspect it may be my crap broadband provider. 

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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent help -- some detail please

2004-03-07 Thread John Wilson
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On March 7, 2004 10:06 pm, Troy Thomas Hall wrote:

>
> how r u seeing all these peers and such?  Also I tried the shorewall
> command that was put in the list and shorewall hated it.

With regard to shorewall I've just forwarded the ports that I've been advised 
to.  I also don't have a hardware router as too many of the cheap ones cause 
all kinds of grief and most of them can't be configured worth a damn anyway.

I'm using the shadow client and it's showing them to me in the GUI.  I've also 
opened myself up to unlimited connections.

For the record, for anyone following this thread, I'm not at between 55 and 86 
kB/s which isn't bad, I guess.  It should finish sometime tomorrow at this 
rate :)

Still seeing very few clients and peers but that could be just a regional 
thing and the clients and peers that respond in a given amount of time.  I 
haven't looked into it any yet.

Also the packet error rate is way down now.  I've seen one peer disappear and 
I'm not downloading from them now.  I'll wait till they reappear and if the 
bit error rate goes through the ceiling again I'll block them at Shorewall.  
They were always kinda suspect anyway.  I wonder if they've got a fscked hard 
drive?   Oh well :)

Going well now, I guess, though waiting 4.5 hours to get decent throughput is 
a bit much.  Still, better than nothing. :)

ttfn

John
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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent help -- some detail please

2004-03-07 Thread Troy Thomas Hall
Daniel Anderson wrote:
On Sunday 07 March 2004 07:28 pm, John Wilson wrote:

On March 7, 2004 02:18 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:

On Sunday 07 March 2004 03:09 pm, John Wilson wrote:

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OK, I have a Bittorent client up and running but running so slowly that
I'll be a very old man and we'll be on Mdk 12 or 13 by the time this
download completes.
The FAQ on the club site sucks and there is no other documentation on
this piece of &^*&.  Strangely there is nothing on Twiki either.  I
have better things to do than google the world to figure out how this
works!
I tried it with 9.2 with similar results (I'm currently running with no
firewall to see if that works and it's not making me feel good or
helping one iota) and ended up waiting till the public release where it
was finally placed on FTP.
Okay..frustration over.  To any I offended, I'm sorry, but this is NOT
what I joined the club to get.
By the way..torrent just stopped dead...oh what fun

Now..does anyone have a point by point set of instructions on setting
this god forsaken thing up?  And don't point me to the FAQ on the club
site, please. It's about as much use as stone knife when trying to cut
steel.  It seems to work for some but judging from the traffic here and
elsewhere it's a frustrating, angering and ultimately bad thing for MDK
in the sense of customer satisfaction.
Thanks.

A very frustrated

ttfn

John

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John, what speed connection do you have? cable, t1, phone line, dsl?
here is what I put in a command line as user not root:
btdownloadgui.py --max_upload_rate 12 mytorrent-yourusername.torrent

This will limit the upload and allow a faster download. Once you put that
in it will ask where to save the files, I use the bittorent gui which
makes it more user friendly for me. Not a cli guy so to speak. Anyway
give that a try and see what you get.  Also is your computer on a LAN or
stand alone? I had to open ports on the router for my set up. HTH
ADSL, semi fixed IP, that is in theory I have a DHCP connection but I've
had the same IP for about 7 months now.  2048 down 1024 up.  Ports wide
open.  My box is my router so that shouldn't be a problem.  It could be
that things are just slow today.
I'm only seeing 24 peers out there at the moment a decrease of about 40 in
the last 10 minutes and my speed has dropped accordingly.  Rough estimate
now is 2 and one half weeks.
I know that SOME people are happy with this arrangement but for the life of
me I can't understand why Mandrake wants to put so many people off.  All
the posts about good speed are in the first couple of days after the distro
is announced and then the complaints seem to start because people take
their torrents down and leave us latecomers to stew in downloads that are
reminiscent of 300bps days.
Whoops..down to 18 peers and 3 seeds...this is getting awful :-)

ttfn

John


I'm seeing 97 peers and 41 seeds, dl speeds in the 70's and 80's. I set my 
upload limit to 13 kBs and opened port 6881 on my smoothwall. My only worry 
is I may be violating the terms of service agreement with the isp.
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how r u seeing all these peers and such?  Also I tried the shorewall 
command that was put in the list and shorewall hated it.



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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent help -- some detail please

2004-03-07 Thread Troy Williams
On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 18:56, Daniel Anderson wrote:
> On Sunday 07 March 2004 07:28 pm, John Wilson wrote:
> > On March 7, 2004 02:18 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > > On Sunday 07 March 2004 03:09 pm, John Wilson wrote:
> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > > Hash: SHA1
> > > >
> > > > OK, I have a Bittorent client up and running but running so slowly that
> > > > I'll be a very old man and we'll be on Mdk 12 or 13 by the time this
> > > > download completes.
> > > >
> > > > The FAQ on the club site sucks and there is no other documentation on
> > > > this piece of &^*&.  Strangely there is nothing on Twiki either.  I
> > > > have better things to do than google the world to figure out how this
> > > > works!
> > > >
> > > > I tried it with 9.2 with similar results (I'm currently running with no
> > > > firewall to see if that works and it's not making me feel good or
> > > > helping one iota) and ended up waiting till the public release where it
> > > > was finally placed on FTP.
> > > >
> > > > Okay..frustration over.  To any I offended, I'm sorry, but this is NOT
> > > > what I joined the club to get.
> > > >
> > > > By the way..torrent just stopped dead...oh what fun
> > > >
> > > > Now..does anyone have a point by point set of instructions on setting
> > > > this god forsaken thing up?  And don't point me to the FAQ on the club
> > > > site, please. It's about as much use as stone knife when trying to cut
> > > > steel.  It seems to work for some but judging from the traffic here and
> > > > elsewhere it's a frustrating, angering and ultimately bad thing for MDK
> > > > in the sense of customer satisfaction.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > A very frustrated
> > > >
> > > > ttfn
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
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> > > > uXTHYJUvdm1kxv2H+yEzepY=
> > > > =0uFH
> > > > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> > >
> > > John, what speed connection do you have? cable, t1, phone line, dsl?
> > > here is what I put in a command line as user not root:
> > >
> > > btdownloadgui.py --max_upload_rate 12 mytorrent-yourusername.torrent
> > >
> > > This will limit the upload and allow a faster download. Once you put that
> > > in it will ask where to save the files, I use the bittorent gui which
> > > makes it more user friendly for me. Not a cli guy so to speak. Anyway
> > > give that a try and see what you get.  Also is your computer on a LAN or
> > > stand alone? I had to open ports on the router for my set up. HTH
> >
> > ADSL, semi fixed IP, that is in theory I have a DHCP connection but I've
> > had the same IP for about 7 months now.  2048 down 1024 up.  Ports wide
> > open.  My box is my router so that shouldn't be a problem.  It could be
> > that things are just slow today.
> >
> > I'm only seeing 24 peers out there at the moment a decrease of about 40 in
> > the last 10 minutes and my speed has dropped accordingly.  Rough estimate
> > now is 2 and one half weeks.
> >
> > I know that SOME people are happy with this arrangement but for the life of
> > me I can't understand why Mandrake wants to put so many people off.  All
> > the posts about good speed are in the first couple of days after the distro
> > is announced and then the complaints seem to start because people take
> > their torrents down and leave us latecomers to stew in downloads that are
> > reminiscent of 300bps days.
> >
> > Whoops..down to 18 peers and 3 seeds...this is getting awful :-)
> >
> > ttfn
> >
> > John
> 
> I'm seeing 97 peers and 41 seeds, dl speeds in the 70's and 80's. I set my 
> upload limit to 13 kBs and opened port 6881 on my smoothwall. My only worry 
> is I may be violating the terms of service agreement with the isp.
> Dan
> 
> 
> __
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I too was getting horrible rates downstream, so I followed the
suggestion in the FAQ on the club site and forwarded the mentioned ports
on my router.  After doing that, I was sustaining 200-250 downstream.  I
did not throttle my upstream and it remained about 35-50.

I went to bed about midnight and got up at 0630 and I had the first
three images downloaded.  Fired off disk 4 & 5 and got those in about 2
hrs.

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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent help -- some detail please

2004-03-07 Thread John Wilson
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On March 7, 2004 04:39 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:

> This is strange, I had both of the powerpack bittorrents downloaded in
> about 8 hours, the download was running full bore capacity of my broadband
> so I don't understand unless you are routing through a busy server on the
> internet. Have you tried stopping and restarting?

Yup.  Third time attempting it.  Also have set it to allow multiple 
connections, which, I've heard speeds things up. No joy.

In fact the speed is degrading rapidly now.  Ranging from 6 KBbs to 0.2.  Most 
of it under 0.5.  There is nothing wrong with the route, I've tested it.  
Protocol analysis shows a whack of bad packets arriving and being 
rejected..upwards of 80% on each connection I've attempted.

I'm about ready to give this up here.  Reliable this is not at the moment.

ttfn

John
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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent help -- some detail please

2004-03-07 Thread Daniel Anderson
On Sunday 07 March 2004 07:28 pm, John Wilson wrote:
> On March 7, 2004 02:18 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > On Sunday 07 March 2004 03:09 pm, John Wilson wrote:
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > OK, I have a Bittorent client up and running but running so slowly that
> > > I'll be a very old man and we'll be on Mdk 12 or 13 by the time this
> > > download completes.
> > >
> > > The FAQ on the club site sucks and there is no other documentation on
> > > this piece of &^*&.  Strangely there is nothing on Twiki either.  I
> > > have better things to do than google the world to figure out how this
> > > works!
> > >
> > > I tried it with 9.2 with similar results (I'm currently running with no
> > > firewall to see if that works and it's not making me feel good or
> > > helping one iota) and ended up waiting till the public release where it
> > > was finally placed on FTP.
> > >
> > > Okay..frustration over.  To any I offended, I'm sorry, but this is NOT
> > > what I joined the club to get.
> > >
> > > By the way..torrent just stopped dead...oh what fun
> > >
> > > Now..does anyone have a point by point set of instructions on setting
> > > this god forsaken thing up?  And don't point me to the FAQ on the club
> > > site, please. It's about as much use as stone knife when trying to cut
> > > steel.  It seems to work for some but judging from the traffic here and
> > > elsewhere it's a frustrating, angering and ultimately bad thing for MDK
> > > in the sense of customer satisfaction.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > A very frustrated
> > >
> > > ttfn
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
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> > >
> > > iD8DBQFAS4+IkxLVEWCTiQ8RAkI5AJ9jvcNz6e8ul4pzA5PLC/w+IZDmlACglK2y
> > > uXTHYJUvdm1kxv2H+yEzepY=
> > > =0uFH
> > > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> >
> > John, what speed connection do you have? cable, t1, phone line, dsl?
> > here is what I put in a command line as user not root:
> >
> > btdownloadgui.py --max_upload_rate 12 mytorrent-yourusername.torrent
> >
> > This will limit the upload and allow a faster download. Once you put that
> > in it will ask where to save the files, I use the bittorent gui which
> > makes it more user friendly for me. Not a cli guy so to speak. Anyway
> > give that a try and see what you get.  Also is your computer on a LAN or
> > stand alone? I had to open ports on the router for my set up. HTH
>
> ADSL, semi fixed IP, that is in theory I have a DHCP connection but I've
> had the same IP for about 7 months now.  2048 down 1024 up.  Ports wide
> open.  My box is my router so that shouldn't be a problem.  It could be
> that things are just slow today.
>
> I'm only seeing 24 peers out there at the moment a decrease of about 40 in
> the last 10 minutes and my speed has dropped accordingly.  Rough estimate
> now is 2 and one half weeks.
>
> I know that SOME people are happy with this arrangement but for the life of
> me I can't understand why Mandrake wants to put so many people off.  All
> the posts about good speed are in the first couple of days after the distro
> is announced and then the complaints seem to start because people take
> their torrents down and leave us latecomers to stew in downloads that are
> reminiscent of 300bps days.
>
> Whoops..down to 18 peers and 3 seeds...this is getting awful :-)
>
> ttfn
>
> John

I'm seeing 97 peers and 41 seeds, dl speeds in the 70's and 80's. I set my 
upload limit to 13 kBs and opened port 6881 on my smoothwall. My only worry 
is I may be violating the terms of service agreement with the isp.
Dan

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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent help -- some detail please

2004-03-07 Thread Dennis Myers
On Sunday 07 March 2004 06:28 pm, John Wilson wrote:
> On March 7, 2004 02:18 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > On Sunday 07 March 2004 03:09 pm, John Wilson wrote:
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > OK, I have a Bittorent client up and running but running so slowly that
> > > I'll be a very old man and we'll be on Mdk 12 or 13 by the time this
> > > download completes.
> > >
> > > The FAQ on the club site sucks and there is no other documentation on
> > > this piece of &^*&.  Strangely there is nothing on Twiki either.  I
> > > have better things to do than google the world to figure out how this
> > > works!
> > >
> > > I tried it with 9.2 with similar results (I'm currently running with no
> > > firewall to see if that works and it's not making me feel good or
> > > helping one iota) and ended up waiting till the public release where it
> > > was finally placed on FTP.
> > >
> > > Okay..frustration over.  To any I offended, I'm sorry, but this is NOT
> > > what I joined the club to get.
> > >
> > > By the way..torrent just stopped dead...oh what fun
> > >
> > > Now..does anyone have a point by point set of instructions on setting
> > > this god forsaken thing up?  And don't point me to the FAQ on the club
> > > site, please. It's about as much use as stone knife when trying to cut
> > > steel.  It seems to work for some but judging from the traffic here and
> > > elsewhere it's a frustrating, angering and ultimately bad thing for MDK
> > > in the sense of customer satisfaction.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > A very frustrated
> > >
> > > ttfn
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
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> > >
> > > iD8DBQFAS4+IkxLVEWCTiQ8RAkI5AJ9jvcNz6e8ul4pzA5PLC/w+IZDmlACglK2y
> > > uXTHYJUvdm1kxv2H+yEzepY=
> > > =0uFH
> > > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> >
> > John, what speed connection do you have? cable, t1, phone line, dsl?
> > here is what I put in a command line as user not root:
> >
> > btdownloadgui.py --max_upload_rate 12 mytorrent-yourusername.torrent
> >
> > This will limit the upload and allow a faster download. Once you put that
> > in it will ask where to save the files, I use the bittorent gui which
> > makes it more user friendly for me. Not a cli guy so to speak. Anyway
> > give that a try and see what you get.  Also is your computer on a LAN or
> > stand alone? I had to open ports on the router for my set up. HTH
>
> ADSL, semi fixed IP, that is in theory I have a DHCP connection but I've
> had the same IP for about 7 months now.  2048 down 1024 up.  Ports wide
> open.  My box is my router so that shouldn't be a problem.  It could be
> that things are just slow today.
>
> I'm only seeing 24 peers out there at the moment a decrease of about 40 in
> the last 10 minutes and my speed has dropped accordingly.  Rough estimate
> now is 2 and one half weeks.
>
> I know that SOME people are happy with this arrangement but for the life of
> me I can't understand why Mandrake wants to put so many people off.  All
> the posts about good speed are in the first couple of days after the distro
> is announced and then the complaints seem to start because people take
> their torrents down and leave us latecomers to stew in downloads that are
> reminiscent of 300bps days.
>
> Whoops..down to 18 peers and 3 seeds...this is getting awful :-)
>
> ttfn
>
> John
This is strange, I had both of the powerpack bittorrents downloaded in about 8 
hours, the download was running full bore capacity of my broadband so I don't 
understand unless you are routing through a busy server on the internet. Have 
you tried stopping and restarting?
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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent help -- some detail please

2004-03-07 Thread John Wilson
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Hash: SHA1

On March 7, 2004 02:18 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> On Sunday 07 March 2004 03:09 pm, John Wilson wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > OK, I have a Bittorent client up and running but running so slowly that
> > I'll be a very old man and we'll be on Mdk 12 or 13 by the time this
> > download completes.
> >
> > The FAQ on the club site sucks and there is no other documentation on
> > this piece of &^*&.  Strangely there is nothing on Twiki either.  I have
> > better things to do than google the world to figure out how this
> > works!
> >
> > I tried it with 9.2 with similar results (I'm currently running with no
> > firewall to see if that works and it's not making me feel good or helping
> > one iota) and ended up waiting till the public release where it was
> > finally placed on FTP.
> >
> > Okay..frustration over.  To any I offended, I'm sorry, but this is NOT
> > what I joined the club to get.
> >
> > By the way..torrent just stopped dead...oh what fun
> >
> > Now..does anyone have a point by point set of instructions on setting
> > this god forsaken thing up?  And don't point me to the FAQ on the club
> > site, please. It's about as much use as stone knife when trying to cut
> > steel.  It seems to work for some but judging from the traffic here and
> > elsewhere it's a frustrating, angering and ultimately bad thing for MDK
> > in the sense of customer satisfaction.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > A very frustrated
> >
> > ttfn
> >
> > John
> >
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> > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
>
> John, what speed connection do you have? cable, t1, phone line, dsl?
> here is what I put in a command line as user not root:
>
> btdownloadgui.py --max_upload_rate 12 mytorrent-yourusername.torrent
>
> This will limit the upload and allow a faster download. Once you put that
> in it will ask where to save the files, I use the bittorent gui which makes
> it more user friendly for me. Not a cli guy so to speak. Anyway give that a
> try and see what you get.  Also is your computer on a LAN or stand alone? I
> had to open ports on the router for my set up. HTH

ADSL, semi fixed IP, that is in theory I have a DHCP connection but I've had 
the same IP for about 7 months now.  2048 down 1024 up.  Ports wide open.  My 
box is my router so that shouldn't be a problem.  It could be that things are 
just slow today.

I'm only seeing 24 peers out there at the moment a decrease of about 40 in the 
last 10 minutes and my speed has dropped accordingly.  Rough estimate now is 
2 and one half weeks.

I know that SOME people are happy with this arrangement but for the life of me 
I can't understand why Mandrake wants to put so many people off.  All the 
posts about good speed are in the first couple of days after the distro is 
announced and then the complaints seem to start because people take their 
torrents down and leave us latecomers to stew in downloads that are 
reminiscent of 300bps days.

Whoops..down to 18 peers and 3 seeds...this is getting awful :-)

ttfn

John
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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent help -- some detail please

2004-03-07 Thread John Wilson
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On March 7, 2004 03:13 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:

> I have to say again that the biggest problem with bittorrent is that people
> don't understand how it works, and their machines aren't configured
> properly. Yes there are specific issues that affect some issues, and there
> are workarounds for most.  For those that it really doesn't work, ftp/http
> downloads are available by request.

Okay..then how is it supposed to work and what are the configuration issues?

This is exactly the same answer I got with 9.2 with the same lack of 
explaination.  Maybe I'm being as thick as a brick here (something I'm more 
than prepared to admit) but the understanding and configuration are what I'm 
looking for.

As for being in the minority perhaps I am.  Still..something a bit more 
helpful "than you don't understand" would be greatly appreciated.

Oh, and I never did have a problem ftp'ing the old way. :-)

ttfn

John
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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent help -- some detail please

2004-03-07 Thread Dennis Myers
On Sunday 07 March 2004 03:09 pm, John Wilson wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> OK, I have a Bittorent client up and running but running so slowly that
> I'll be a very old man and we'll be on Mdk 12 or 13 by the time this
> download completes.
>
> The FAQ on the club site sucks and there is no other documentation on this
> piece of &^*&.  Strangely there is nothing on Twiki either.  I have better
> things to do than google the world to figure out how this works!
>
> I tried it with 9.2 with similar results (I'm currently running with no
> firewall to see if that works and it's not making me feel good or helping
> one iota) and ended up waiting till the public release where it was finally
> placed on FTP.
>
> Okay..frustration over.  To any I offended, I'm sorry, but this is NOT what
> I joined the club to get.
>
> By the way..torrent just stopped dead...oh what fun
>
> Now..does anyone have a point by point set of instructions on setting this
> god forsaken thing up?  And don't point me to the FAQ on the club site,
> please. It's about as much use as stone knife when trying to cut steel.  It
> seems to work for some but judging from the traffic here and elsewhere it's
> a frustrating, angering and ultimately bad thing for MDK in the sense of
> customer satisfaction.
>
> Thanks.
>
> A very frustrated
>
> ttfn
>
> John
>
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John, what speed connection do you have? cable, t1, phone line, dsl? 
here is what I put in a command line as user not root:

btdownloadgui.py --max_upload_rate 12 mytorrent-yourusername.torrent 
 
This will limit the upload and allow a faster download. Once you put that in 
it will ask where to save the files, I use the bittorent gui which makes it 
more user friendly for me. Not a cli guy so to speak. Anyway give that a try 
and see what you get.  Also is your computer on a LAN or stand alone? I had 
to open ports on the router for my set up. HTH

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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent help -- some detail please

2004-03-07 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 07 March 2004 04:09 pm, John Wilson wrote:
> OK, I have a Bittorent client up and running but running so slowly that
> I'll be a very old man and we'll be on Mdk 12 or 13 by the time this
> download completes.
>
> The FAQ on the club site sucks and there is no other documentation on this
> piece of &^*&.  Strangely there is nothing on Twiki either.  I have better
> things to do than google the world to figure out how this works!
>
> I tried it with 9.2 with similar results (I'm currently running with no
> firewall to see if that works and it's not making me feel good or helping
> one iota) and ended up waiting till the public release where it was finally
> placed on FTP.
>
> Okay..frustration over.  To any I offended, I'm sorry, but this is NOT what
> I joined the club to get.
>
> By the way..torrent just stopped dead...oh what fun
>
> Now..does anyone have a point by point set of instructions on setting this
> god forsaken thing up?  And don't point me to the FAQ on the club site,
> please. It's about as much use as stone knife when trying to cut steel.  It
> seems to work for some but judging from the traffic here and elsewhere it's
> a frustrating, angering and ultimately bad thing for MDK in the sense of
> customer satisfaction.
>
Well I can only say I think you are in the vocal minority.  Looking at the 
statistics at http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969/ thousands of people have 
successfully downloaded.  

I have to say again that the biggest problem with bittorrent is that people 
don't understand how it works, and their machines aren't configured properly.  
Yes there are specific issues that affect some issues, and there are 
workarounds for most.  For those that it really doesn't work, ftp/http 
downloads are available by request.

This definitely beats the old days when I would sit in front of my computer 
constantly hitting refresh for two hours trying to get in at an ftp server.

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Re: [newbie] bittorrent: which version on 9.2?

2004-01-25 Thread RickS
On Sunday 25 January 2004 10:44 pm, Ramin wrote:
> Hi,
>   May i know which version of bittorrent you are using on 9.2? I see there
> are 3.2.1b-6mdk, 3.3-2mdk, 3.3-3.92mdk, shadowsclient 5.8.7-1mdk available.
> The first one seems a beta version. The second one refused to install and
> apparently it is from unsupported. The third one want to remove
> kdelibs-commons before installing which i think is an important package so
> i should not remove it. The shadowsclient is an experimental one so not
> sure if it works OK.
>   So which one would you recommend?
> Thanks,  Ramin
Hi Ramin, I'm have these installed
bittorrent-gui-3.2.1b-6mdk
bittorrent-3.2.1b-6mdk

I am currently running from the CL, its workin fine ..

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[newbie] bittorrent: which version on 9.2?

2004-01-25 Thread Ramin
Hi,
  May i know which version of bittorrent you are using on 9.2? I see there are 
3.2.1b-6mdk, 3.3-2mdk, 3.3-3.92mdk, shadowsclient 5.8.7-1mdk available. The 
first one seems a beta version. The second one refused to install and 
apparently it is from unsupported. The third one want to remove 
kdelibs-commons before installing which i think is an important package so i 
should not remove it. The shadowsclient is an experimental one so not sure if 
it works OK.
  So which one would you recommend?
Thanks,  Ramin
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Re: [newbie] bittorrent problems

2004-01-05 Thread Patrick Dempster

Tom Brinkman said:
>Before starting the torrent, I edit
> /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.py
>   (your python version might be different, mines current cooker)
>
>   ... and limit upload bandwidth by editing
>
> defaults = [
> ('max_uploads', 2,
> "the maximum number of uploads to allow at once."),
>
>   ...  and
>
>('max_upload_rate', 4,
> 'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'),

Thanks tom this was just the information I was looking for.

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Re: [newbie] bittorrent problems

2004-01-05 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday 05 January 2004 01:34 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:
> Somebody is certainly having success with the torrent. I
> started it after I rsynced the cooker tree last Thursday
> morning to get the ISOs. The pull has been steady at around 55
> KBytes/sec. The only time it isn't running is during brief
> periods when glitches at my ISP drop my connection; usually a
> few seconds at a time and never more than a minute.
>
> That upload rate is about a third of my maximum theoretical
> upload bandwidth. I haven't restricted it at all. "Maximum
> Rates" on this service (cable) are, theoretically; 10 mbit/sec
> down, 1.5 mbits/sec up.

   Wow!!! that is a super fast connection. OTOH, an average upload 
rate of 55KB/s tells me you're only givin about 1/3 of your 
upstream capacity to torrent. No need to limit.

>
> I think I'll be clicking "Finish" in the next day or two so
> that I can actually try the installer. It's hard to test when
> you're busy feeding the hungry maw of the torrent. (-;

No need to wait till you quit torrent. I burned my iso's to 
Cd's while the torrent was still runin. Later after a 2.2.24 
kernel try. I also then tried an 'update' (to current cooker 
anyhow) with the New Years' beta 1 iso's. Both failed to do much. 
Restarted my 10.0. beta 1 torrent on rebooting. It's still goin. 
I reckon I've uploaded both iso's twice in return so far.
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Re: [newbie] bittorrent problems

2004-01-05 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Monday 05 January 2004 12:07 pm, Sharrea Day wrote:


> I also tried to download the Cooker ISOs via bittorrent the other day but
> gave up after it continued downloading at 1.5Kb for more than 3 hours!
> Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of sharing the load using bittorrent
> (its an awesome idea and worked well for me when downloading 9.2 a few
> months back).
>
> However, I ended up downloading the Cooker ISOs via ftp from:
> ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-iso/i586/
>
> Also just FYI, those two ISOs are just the basic installation and I found
> that I had a _lot_ more downloading to do after installation to get all my
> favourite apps... YVMM...
>
> Anyway, good luck!
>
> Sharrea

The "a _lot_ more downloading to do after installation" doesn't enter into 
this for me since I have duplicates of the cooker and 9.2 trees on one of my 
drives. 

Somebody is certainly having success with the torrent. I started it after I 
rsynced the cooker tree last Thursday morning to get the ISOs. The pull has 
been steady at around 55 KBytes/sec. The only time it isn't running is during 
brief periods when glitches at my ISP drop my connection; usually a few 
seconds at a time and never more than a minute. 

That upload rate is about a third of my maximum theoretical upload bandwidth. 
I haven't restricted it at all. "Maximum Rates" on this service (cable) are, 
theoretically; 10 mbit/sec down, 1.5 mbits/sec up.

I think I'll be clicking "Finish" in the next day or two so that I can 
actually try the installer. It's hard to test when you're busy feeding the 
hungry maw of the torrent. (-;

Regards;
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Re: [newbie] bittorrent problems

2004-01-05 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday 04 January 2004 06:35 pm, Mark wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Patrick Dempster wrote:
> > Richard Urwin said:
> > > On Sunday 04 Jan 2004 10:39 pm, Patrick Dempster wrote:
> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] torrent]$ btdownloadgui.py --max_upload_rate
> > >> 100 MandrakeLinux-20031231-i586.iso.torrent
> > >>
> > >> I get the following error:
> > >>
> > >> ERROR (10:28) -
> > >> error: Too many args - 0 max.
> > >> run with no args for parameter explanations.
> > >>
> > >> Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Is there an rc
> > >> file somewhere that I should set this in?
> > >
> > > Off the top of my head, try using hyphens"-" rather than
> > > underlines.
> >
> > Nope, doesn't seem to like that that either
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] torrent]$ btdownloadgui.py --max-upload-rate 100
> > MandrakeLinux-20031231-i586.iso.torrent
> > These errors occurred during execution:
> > [23:47:11] error: option --max-upload-rate not recognized
> > run with no args for parameter explanations
> >
> > After a bit more experimenting it does appear that
> > --max_upload_rate is what it is looking for because it does
> > appear to be parsing it and it is expecting a number. I'm
> > really stumped now.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] torrent]$ btdownloadgui.py --max_upload_rate 100k
> > MandrakeLinux-20031231-i586.iso.torrent
> > These errors occurred during execution:
> > [23:47:43] error: wrong format of --max_upload_rate - invalid
> > literal for long(): 100k
> > run with no args for parameter explanations
> >
> > Talk to you soon,
> > Take care,
> >
> > Paddy
>
> Paddy,
>
> as I recall Tom Brinkman has a pretty fair understanding about
> how this all works. check for his addy in the list archives and
> shoot him a message. Or post to his attention either here or on
> the Mandrake OT list. I'm sure you'll get a response.
>
> The Mandrake Off Topic list is here:
> http://mdw1982.dyndns.org/mailman/listinfo/mandrakeot

 I use the GUI.
bittorrent-gui-3.3-3mdk
bittorrent-3.3-3mdk

 I download the torrent file to /home/tom/torrent/   Then just 
clicking on the torrent file in Konqueror File Manager starts the 
little GUI screen showing d/l rate and estimated time, and the 
upload rate.  BUT

   Before starting the torrent, I edit
/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.py
  (your python version might be different, mines current cooker)

  ... and limit upload bandwidth by editing

defaults = [
('max_uploads', 2,
"the maximum number of uploads to allow at once."),

  ...  and

   ('max_upload_rate', 4,
'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'),


The last one is the important one. I also have DSL, 1.5mbit 
down, but only 128kbit up. That translates to a max of about 
13KBytes up.  Since the d/l stream also needs bits for acks and 
no acks, leaving the upload unlimited, all but kills the d/l. In 
my example above, I've limited upload to 4KB. In practice, this 
keeps torrent from using more than 4.... KB.  Which leaves 
enough for the torrent d/l stream, plus using my connection for 
other things, including background stuff like ntpd, DNS requests, 
etc. (run 'ethereal' to see all the background stuff)

   I got the iso's at an average of 155KB/s down in just a few 
hours early 1/1/04 while reading my morning email. I've left it 
uploading since. With the d/l complete, my connection is as 
usable as even without the torrent uploading.  FWIW, I use the 
GUI 'cause I never could get my head around the CL options ;)  

   I think the OP might be confusing 128 kilobits, with KiloBytes 
too.  Generally you can divide by 10 (8 bits to a byte +  a 
couple more for acks and background proccesses). So a 128kb 
upstream is really a 13KB/s up. My 1.5million bits down stream 
does well to get 155KByte/s down.  The download.py settings are 
in bytes, not bits.  
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Re: [newbie] bittorrent problems

2004-01-04 Thread Mark
On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Patrick Dempster wrote:

> 
> Richard Urwin said:
> > On Sunday 04 Jan 2004 10:39 pm, Patrick Dempster wrote:
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] torrent]$ btdownloadgui.py --max_upload_rate 100
> >> MandrakeLinux-20031231-i586.iso.torrent
> >>
> >> I get the following error:
> >>
> >> ERROR (10:28) -
> >> error: Too many args - 0 max.
> >> run with no args for parameter explanations.
> >>
> >> Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Is there an rc file somewhere
> >> that I should set this in?
> >
> > Off the top of my head, try using hyphens"-" rather than underlines.
> 
> Nope, doesn't seem to like that that either
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] torrent]$ btdownloadgui.py --max-upload-rate 100
> MandrakeLinux-20031231-i586.iso.torrent
> These errors occurred during execution:
> [23:47:11] error: option --max-upload-rate not recognized
> run with no args for parameter explanations
> 
> After a bit more experimenting it does appear that --max_upload_rate is
> what it is looking for because it does appear to be parsing it and it is
> expecting a number. I'm really stumped now.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] torrent]$ btdownloadgui.py --max_upload_rate 100k
> MandrakeLinux-20031231-i586.iso.torrent
> These errors occurred during execution:
> [23:47:43] error: wrong format of --max_upload_rate - invalid literal for
> long(): 100k
> run with no args for parameter explanations
> 
> Talk to you soon,
> Take care,
> 
> Paddy

Paddy,

as I recall Tom Brinkman has a pretty fair understanding about how this 
all works. check for his addy in the list archives and shoot him a 
message. Or post to his attention either here or on the Mandrake OT list. 
I'm sure you'll get a response.

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http://mdw1982.dyndns.org/mailman/listinfo/mandrakeot 

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Re: [newbie] bittorrent problems

2004-01-04 Thread Patrick Dempster

Richard Urwin said:
> On Sunday 04 Jan 2004 10:39 pm, Patrick Dempster wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] torrent]$ btdownloadgui.py --max_upload_rate 100
>> MandrakeLinux-20031231-i586.iso.torrent
>>
>> I get the following error:
>>
>> ERROR (10:28) -
>> error: Too many args - 0 max.
>> run with no args for parameter explanations.
>>
>> Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Is there an rc file somewhere
>> that I should set this in?
>
> Off the top of my head, try using hyphens"-" rather than underlines.

Nope, doesn't seem to like that that either

[EMAIL PROTECTED] torrent]$ btdownloadgui.py --max-upload-rate 100
MandrakeLinux-20031231-i586.iso.torrent
These errors occurred during execution:
[23:47:11] error: option --max-upload-rate not recognized
run with no args for parameter explanations

After a bit more experimenting it does appear that --max_upload_rate is
what it is looking for because it does appear to be parsing it and it is
expecting a number. I'm really stumped now.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] torrent]$ btdownloadgui.py --max_upload_rate 100k
MandrakeLinux-20031231-i586.iso.torrent
These errors occurred during execution:
[23:47:43] error: wrong format of --max_upload_rate - invalid literal for
long(): 100k
run with no args for parameter explanations



Talk to you soon,
Take care,

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Re: [newbie] bittorrent problems

2004-01-04 Thread Richard Urwin
On Sunday 04 Jan 2004 10:39 pm, Patrick Dempster wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] torrent]$ btdownloadgui.py --max_upload_rate 100
> MandrakeLinux-20031231-i586.iso.torrent
>
> I get the following error:
>
> ERROR (10:28) -
> error: Too many args - 0 max.
> run with no args for parameter explanations.
>
> Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Is there an rc file somewhere
> that I should set this in?

Off the top of my head, try using hyphens"-" rather than underlines.

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[newbie] bittorrent problems

2004-01-04 Thread Patrick Dempster
Hi Folks,

I've been trying to download the cooker iso's using bt for the last day or
so but running bittorrent slows my internet connection to a crawl my
connection is a cable modem 600K Down / 128K Up). After googling about it
looks like I need to preform some traffic shaping on my connection but
that looks a bit hairy and not really something I what to tackle at the
minute because I've only just got my Mandrake 9.2 nice and comfy for
everyday use. So, after reading through the BT website and wiki it appears
that I just need to start bt passing in a --max_upload_rate option (If I'm
reading and understading the docs correctly) however when I try to start
bt using the following command line,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] torrent]$ btdownloadgui.py --max_upload_rate 100
MandrakeLinux-20031231-i586.iso.torrent

I get the following error:

ERROR (10:28) -
error: Too many args - 0 max.
run with no args for parameter explanations.

Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Is there an rc file somewhere
that I should set this in?

Talk to you soon,
Take care,

Paddy

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[newbie] Bittorrent still going

2003-11-18 Thread Dennis Myers
Just took a look at the bittorrent activity and it is still going with over 
1 downloads completed.   WOW!
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Re: [newbie] bittorrent

2003-11-12 Thread SourComet
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 08:06, Derek Jennings wrote:

> Yes use the --max_upload_rate [number] switch

Perfect. Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] bittorrent

2003-11-12 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 11:21 am, Sour Comet wrote:
> Greetings All,
>
> Although I find Bittorrent to be a great file sharing program, I find
> that the uploading rate get so high that it brings down my network
> connection. Thus, every time I return to my computer, it is necessary to
> 'service network restart'.  Is there a way to control the
> upload/download rates?
>
> SourComet

Yes use the --max_upload_rate [number] switch

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[newbie] bittorrent

2003-11-12 Thread Sour Comet
Greetings All,

Although I find Bittorrent to be a great file sharing program, I find
that the uploading rate get so high that it brings down my network
connection. Thus, every time I return to my computer, it is necessary to
'service network restart'.  Is there a way to control the
upload/download rates?

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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent Install

2003-10-27 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Monday 27 October 2003 4:31 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've successfully installed Bittorrent but can't install the
> Bittorrent-gui because I'm missing a file called wxPythonGTK.  As far as
> I can determine, all of the Python files are on my machine.  Where would
> this file be located?

The wonderful tool to handle this for you is to go to http://www.rpmfind.net 
and enter the file name into its search engine, and it turned out to find it 
for me.

Then all I do is ask urpmi to find it for me, and I let it handle the install.

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Re: [newbie] BitTorrent

2003-10-23 Thread Dick Gevers
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Hello,

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:03:26 -0500, Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about
Re: [newbie] BitTorrent:

>
>I've started mine back up.
>
>
>On Wed October 22 2003 20:50, Dennis Myers wrote:
>
>>
>> It appears that the number of folks remaining online as servers is
>> decreasing.  I have left mine going for about a week now and think that
>> others should get back on to help the rest right up until 9.2 hits the
>> shelves and the ftp mirrors.   Come on folks, jump back in. HTH

Thank you very much. Both of you and everyone like you!!

I fired up my BT again, and indeed the rates have improved somewhat. The
expected time needed for the balance now wavers between 135 and 170 hours.
At least that`s a whole lot better than the 235 of yesterday. So I`ll try
and keep it up as long as it takes. 

Mandrakians sure are a great team!

Best regards,
=Dick Gevers=

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Re: [newbie] BitTorrent

2003-10-22 Thread Glenn

I've started mine back up.



On Wed October 22 2003 20:50, Dennis Myers wrote:

>
> It appears that the number of folks remaining online as servers is
> decreasing.  I have left mine going for about a week now and think that
> others should get back on to help the rest right up until 9.2 hits the
> shelves and the ftp mirrors.   Come on folks, jump back in. HTH

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Re: [newbie] BitTorrent

2003-10-22 Thread Dennis Myers
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 04:46 pm, Dick Gevers wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I am sorry to have to report it, but for me the BitTorrent download of 9.2
> has been a bit of a disappointment:
>
> For 2 days I tried several versions via Mozilla without success. My own
> fault, I should have tested it earlier when I had a chance. Then I happened
> to find the BitTorrent-shadowclient plus I gave it a go with Konqueror.
> At last it worked and it started out reasonably well. The first 2 or 3
> days my download rates sometimes went as high as 12 or 14 kb/s. Then it
> trickled down. My highs became 3,4 or 5 kb/s. Sometimes a little bit more,
> but never longer than a few minutes.
>
> Yesterday I was at 55%. Now I have only progressed to 59.2% and the
> trickle has slowed today to 0,1 or 2 kb/s. I have tried all settings:
> unlimited, dialup/isdn, cable/slow, cable/fast, etc. all with high, medium
> and low upload rates, high, medium and low number of uploads: but nothing
> makes much of a difference. When you change a setting it goes up for a
> little while, then reduces again too fast. I can see (in advanced) enough
> people still around with 100% download completed, but they almost all have
> an asterisk against `choked` or `snubbed`. I saw one guy coming by at rate
> of 2,100 kb/s. I was able to download 11 Mb from him, then he was gone...
>
> I tried setting my upload rate to 80% of max.: no result.
>
> I tried opening my ports 6881:6999: no results; no difference whatsoever.
> The`advanced` window kept showing only *L*ocally initiated loads,
> *R*emotely initiated did not appear. And yes, I did restart shorewall. I
> did it precisely as described in MandrakeClub.
>
> Also, BT didn`t continue through the night, as I had expected: if I wasn`t
> at the keyboard for more than 3 hours the programme stopped and the
> download as well (the connection stayed up!).
>
> This isn`t getting me anywhere, because the last estimate of bt-shadow was
> that I still had more than 235 hours to go, or ~10 days. I hope that by
> that time my powerpack cd`s will have arrived from Paris. Also in 10 days
> probably no one is around to torrent with.
>
> I just looked at the graph my ISP shows of daily consumption, and this
> confirms exactly the pattern: download rate went up on Thursday; Friday
> it maxed at ~470 Mb and every day after that it went down steady, even
> though I was connected 24 h/day.
>
> I have now used up about 1,800 Mb of my monthly ration with bt. At this
> rate, if I continue it would go up to over 3,000 Mb (this includes error
> checking, communication with other bt`ers etcetera), not leaving enough for
> the rest of the month and for consumption by the other members of my
> family.
>
> So, unfortunately, I have had to stop the download. On the positive
> side I found, I was glad to be able to upload almost 2 Gb to others.
>
> I hope this information is useful somehow. Meanwhile, I look forward to a
> package from Paris :-)
>
> Regards,
> =Dick Gevers=
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Re: [newbie] BitTorrent

2003-10-22 Thread Dick Gevers
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Hi LeRoy,

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:15:23 - (UTC), <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about
Re: [newbie] BitTorrent:

>Are you a member of "Mandrake Club" and trying to downlaod through the
>"Special download mirror list exclusively for Club members"?

That`s right. I am pleased with the advantages - see www.mandrakeclub.com,
but first of all I felt I had to make a contribution to let Mandrake survive
when it was in financial trouble earlier this year. 

>I ask as a
>non-member who has been thinking of making the commitment. However, I am
>quite pleased with 9.1, so .

So am I; but if I can upgrade something to a newer version I rarely
don`t ;-)

Regards,
=Dick Gevers=

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Re: [newbie] BitTorrent

2003-10-22 Thread lduvall
I am curious.

Are you a member of "Mandrake Club" and trying to downlaod through the
"Special download mirror list exclusively for Club members"? I ask as a
non-member who has been thinking of making the commitment. However, I am
quite pleased with 9.1, so .

LeRoy Duvall
Registered Linux user #258988


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>
> Hi,
>
> I am sorry to have to report it, but for me the BitTorrent download of
> 9.2 has been a bit of a disappointment:
>
> For 2 days I tried several versions via Mozilla without success. My
> own fault, I should have tested it earlier when I had a chance. Then I
> happened to find the BitTorrent-shadowclient plus I gave it a go with
> Konqueror. At last it worked and it started out reasonably well. The
> first 2 or 3 days my download rates sometimes went as high as 12 or 14
> kb/s. Then it trickled down. My highs became 3,4 or 5 kb/s. Sometimes
> a little bit more, but never longer than a few minutes.
>
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[newbie] BitTorrent

2003-10-22 Thread Dick Gevers
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Hi,

I am sorry to have to report it, but for me the BitTorrent download of 9.2
has been a bit of a disappointment:

For 2 days I tried several versions via Mozilla without success. My own
fault, I should have tested it earlier when I had a chance. Then I happened
to find the BitTorrent-shadowclient plus I gave it a go with Konqueror.
At last it worked and it started out reasonably well. The first 2 or 3
days my download rates sometimes went as high as 12 or 14 kb/s. Then it
trickled down. My highs became 3,4 or 5 kb/s. Sometimes a little bit more,
but never longer than a few minutes.

Yesterday I was at 55%. Now I have only progressed to 59.2% and the
trickle has slowed today to 0,1 or 2 kb/s. I have tried all settings:
unlimited, dialup/isdn, cable/slow, cable/fast, etc. all with high, medium
and low upload rates, high, medium and low number of uploads: but nothing
makes much of a difference. When you change a setting it goes up for a
little while, then reduces again too fast. I can see (in advanced) enough
people still around with 100% download completed, but they almost all have
an asterisk against `choked` or `snubbed`. I saw one guy coming by at rate
of 2,100 kb/s. I was able to download 11 Mb from him, then he was gone...

I tried setting my upload rate to 80% of max.: no result.

I tried opening my ports 6881:6999: no results; no difference whatsoever.
The`advanced` window kept showing only *L*ocally initiated loads, *R*emotely
initiated did not appear. And yes, I did restart shorewall. I did it
precisely as described in MandrakeClub.

Also, BT didn`t continue through the night, as I had expected: if I wasn`t
at the keyboard for more than 3 hours the programme stopped and the download
as well (the connection stayed up!).

This isn`t getting me anywhere, because the last estimate of bt-shadow was
that I still had more than 235 hours to go, or ~10 days. I hope that by that
time my powerpack cd`s will have arrived from Paris. Also in 10 days
probably no one is around to torrent with.

I just looked at the graph my ISP shows of daily consumption, and this
confirms exactly the pattern: download rate went up on Thursday; Friday
it maxed at ~470 Mb and every day after that it went down steady, even
though I was connected 24 h/day.

I have now used up about 1,800 Mb of my monthly ration with bt. At this
rate, if I continue it would go up to over 3,000 Mb (this includes error
checking, communication with other bt`ers etcetera), not leaving enough for
the rest of the month and for consumption by the other members of my family.

So, unfortunately, I have had to stop the download. On the positive
side I found, I was glad to be able to upload almost 2 Gb to others.

I hope this information is useful somehow. Meanwhile, I look forward to a
package from Paris :-)

Regards,
=Dick Gevers=

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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent on 9.2

2003-10-17 Thread Glenn

My LinkSys Cable/DSL Router worked fine with BitTorrent.  Not well, but it did 
work .  



On Fri October 17 2003 17:35, Dennis Myers wrote:
> On Friday 17 October 2003 04:11 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> > On Friday 17 October 2003 04:41 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > > Well shut my mouth and call me Elmo.   I tried the 9.2 bittorrent on my
> > > one machine that does not connect through the linksys router and once I
> > > had bittorrent and the required libs installed it kicked right off.
> > > Conclusion the Linksys cable router is not configured properly somehow.
> > > I did the requisite port forwarding and so am at a loss. No matter, I
> > > will have the new iso's tomorrow.  I've been to two county fairs and a
> > > rodeo and never saw anything like this!
> >
> > I don't get your problem, your complaining that it works?
>
> No, I had been trying for two days to get it to start on a computer that
> connects to the internet through a linksys cable router,  set up port
> forwarding and everything and still kept getting " cannot connect to
> tracker".  Then I went to one of my other computers that does not use the
> linksys router and installed bittorrent on it and was immediately
> downloading.  Linksys router is the problem.

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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent on 9.2

2003-10-17 Thread Dennis Myers
On Friday 17 October 2003 04:11 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Friday 17 October 2003 04:41 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > Well shut my mouth and call me Elmo.   I tried the 9.2 bittorrent on my
> > one machine that does not connect through the linksys router and once I
> > had bittorrent and the required libs installed it kicked right off. 
> > Conclusion the Linksys cable router is not configured properly somehow. 
> > I did the requisite port forwarding and so am at a loss. No matter, I
> > will have the new iso's tomorrow.  I've been to two county fairs and a
> > rodeo and never saw anything like this!
>
> I don't get your problem, your complaining that it works?
No, I had been trying for two days to get it to start on a computer that 
connects to the internet through a linksys cable router,  set up port 
forwarding and everything and still kept getting " cannot connect to 
tracker".  Then I went to one of my other computers that does not use the 
linksys router and installed bittorrent on it and was immediately 
downloading.  Linksys router is the problem.
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Re: [newbie] Bittorrent on 9.2

2003-10-17 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 17 October 2003 04:41 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> Well shut my mouth and call me Elmo.   I tried the 9.2 bittorrent on my one
> machine that does not connect through the linksys router and once I had
> bittorrent and the required libs installed it kicked right off.  Conclusion
> the Linksys cable router is not configured properly somehow.  I did the
> requisite port forwarding and so am at a loss. No matter, I will have the
> new iso's tomorrow.  I've been to two county fairs and a rodeo and never
> saw anything like this!

I don't get your problem, your complaining that it works?
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[newbie] Bittorrent

2003-10-17 Thread Yoel P. Krigsman
hello...

I am leaving my two computers running with this program this weekend. I
HOPE this will help many of you to get the new ISO ASAP!

YPK


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[newbie] Bittorrent on 9.2

2003-10-17 Thread Dennis Myers
Well shut my mouth and call me Elmo.   I tried the 9.2 bittorrent on my one 
machine that does not connect through the linksys router and once I had 
bittorrent and the required libs installed it kicked right off.  Conclusion 
the Linksys cable router is not configured properly somehow.  I did the 
requisite port forwarding and so am at a loss. No matter, I will have the new 
iso's tomorrow.  I've been to two county fairs and a rodeo and never saw 
anything like this!
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